gameplay-help

[sullen forum]

Ok thank you

[turbid marsh]

that goes with unique aug too no? at least 70% of them

[stark quiver]

in aries, is it better to summon subs at start of battle, or right before helena first proc

[thorn tartan]

well he has something in his inventory to show for it

[forest palm]

not necessarily they do improve the ships, so it does give me something

[stark quiver]

fleet power grinding is just battle betwen wallets

[thorn tartan]

i could coin the rest of the s1-3 ships. I've only been doing 7 bps per day for 1200 coin. I figure what's the rush.

[turbid marsh]

hmm i would say the same as fleet power too, as in giving them gears and stuff. emotional value for seeing yourself in a leaderboard but hey, we are talking about ways to spend coins right?

[forest palm]

that still isn't tangible value

[slow fox]

Is eHP tangible value

[stark quiver]

would you do it for a body pillow

[forest palm]

you get nothing out of fleet power farming other than a hollow victory, and a hole in your wallet, no thanks

[thorn tartan]

Related question: When you are done with S7 ships. Do you focus on UR gear prints? If so, how do you decide which ones and what research tasks do you focus on?

[turbid marsh]

a hole? but i thought you want to spend thy coins no? since you are gated by those stones anyways

[forest palm]

I mean actual wallet

[stark quiver]

for rigmaxxing

[turbid marsh]

wait people need to spend actually money to get onto leaderboard top100? maybe for dock spaces sure...

[zenith pebble]

No?

[inland shoal]

Dock space and if you wanna go crazy 4(+ maybe more so you can afford all the LBs) of every UR

[stark quiver]

not top 100, for the higher ranking mfs

[sweet delta]

Top 100 is easy

[stark quiver]

t100 is easy if you have a lot of ships, can be 1 copy leveled, and just crack open all your tech boxes

[turbid marsh]

yeah the ones with 30k sure. heehee im happy with just seeing my name, and its a way to spend coins XD

[thorn tartan]

I often get a ur gear print from the D gold 8h. It didn't make your list so i'm guessing it's not as time effective.

[stark quiver]

gold d is 🚮

[fast frigate]

is vow 1 time only or can i vow multiple ships

[thorn tartan]

you get a couple rings per year

playing normally

[fast frigate]

i meant can i vow multiple ships

[thorn tartan]

yes

[fast frigate]

oh ok thx

[stark quiver]

what?

[spring basin]

when do i start doing the archive stages ?

[honest stirrup]

any time

[sweet delta]

When you can beat an archive stage that has oil cap

Divergent chessboard D1 through D4

[zenith pebble]

What is oil cap

[forest palm]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[zenith pebble]

Ah okie

[eternal basalt]

1... 1 per year

[zenith pebble]

But theres some packs you can buy

[honest stirrup]

a pack is 980 gems or something around, a single ring (which I do not recommend) is 600
You don't get 600 gems per year

[eternal basalt]

We do get 800 gems this birthday

[honest stirrup]

nevermind

[zenith pebble]

Birthday?

[soft raft]

Anniversary

[zenith pebble]

Ah

800 always?

[stark quiver]

we got like 1k gems last year f2p
2.5k f2p for me

[soft raft]

100 x how many years the game has been running

[zenith pebble]

:0

[eternal basalt]

800 since 8th anni (7 for us, but we get jp/cn's)

[zenith pebble]

1000 gems when

[eternal basalt]

2 years

[honest stirrup]

How? Anniversary and red packets are the only source I know, maybe some rare apologems

[stark quiver]

gachapon
christmas event

[slow fox]

CNY too

[honest stirrup]

was gachapon the thing that took you in a webpage outside the game or something?

THERE WAS GEMS IN THAT EVENT?

[eternal basalt]

CNY is red packets

10 people won gems or something

[zenith pebble]

BRUH

[stark quiver]

5 ppl won 1.5k gems
99% sure it was first come first serve

[slow fox]

ALO community events give gems too

[zenith pebble]

Thats shit

[eternal basalt]

Why?

[zenith pebble]

Because i want gems too

[eternal basalt]

[zenith pebble]

[inland shoal]

[stark quiver]

gachapon was weird tho, there wasnt a ! for it, nor was it remotely at the top of your events tab

[eternal basalt]

And was broken most days with 999 unable to load goals

[stark quiver]

what day did it come out?

[sweet schooner]

belfast, dido or sirius, which one?

[eternal basalt]

Around x-mas, right?

[stark quiver]

i forgot what specific date

[onyx chasm]

Anyone got a direction I wanna go for opsi cuz I'm tryna get good gear asap

[atomic abyss]

do daily missions

[eternal basalt]

Follow the main quest

[atomic abyss]

direction doesnt matter tho frankly

as long as you do your daily missions and story

[onyx chasm]

Where can I see it

[eternal basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804420801527810/1323333903213138072/image.png?ex=67f6a6bc&is=67f5553c&hm=b3ddbbe19962e9059d60374ce18eba2cb1df55b2c03a6e867ac8a1058169b00f&

[eternal basalt]

Information - story progress

[onyx chasm]

Not seeing it

[frosty slate]

Hey! so I formed the fleet but I'm missing some gear. Can you guys help me replace them? it's for fighting Hornet Meta

[atomic abyss]

firstly, are the URs you have max limit broken

[eternal basalt]

@onyx chasm

[frosty slate]

Yeah 😄

[atomic abyss]

then it's not about just alternatives

[weary gust]

Instructions unclear clicked storage and used all health packs on full hp ships

[atomic abyss]

we'd have to readjust the whole backline cos the timing is affected

[frosty slate]

so different girls? damn

[atomic abyss]

more like different gear for everyone

[weary gust]

It might make more sense to do a BB comp if he has none of the relevant planes.

[atomic abyss]

yep

[onyx chasm]

Oh I was in overview my fault

[atomic abyss]

how many BF-109G do you have?

do you have skyraiders?

[stark quiver]

41 cv
18 bb

[frosty slate]

which one is that?

[atomic abyss]

the grey fighter in the above picture

[frosty slate]

Oh i have plenty

[atomic abyss]

do you have skyraider? the rafaello gun?

[frosty slate]

And skyraiders rainbow ones? just 2

[atomic abyss]

why the skull

[eternal basalt]

Isn't it a good idea to have only bf-109 in Hornet META? Do you have a heavy main AA?

[frosty slate]

And which one is rafaello gun?

[stark quiver]

"just 2"

[atomic abyss]

rainbow BB gun in pic above

[stark quiver]

this would work too, just slow down soy if needed

[frosty slate]

got it too

[eternal basalt]

I recommend putting a anti-AA in the main fleet, like Sandy or Shimanto

[atomic abyss]

wont

that assumes you have high cv rld too

[stark quiver]

caught in no fire cycle?

[atomic abyss]

rumey with 0 rld hits 23.78

[stark quiver]

thats 41 rld fleet

[atomic abyss]

and 200 aff

[stark quiver]

i forgot abt that

[frosty slate]

I can do this

Or is something else better?

[atomic abyss]

that one doesnt work

soyuz wont sync

[frosty slate]

Oh

[stark quiver]

what if no gamer table

[atomic abyss]

20.2s gun wont sync with 21.7s...

i guess 1.5s is just nice

[stark quiver]

0.8 if you dont use table and 0 rld

[atomic abyss]

you wont believe what does work

that is so scuffed

[stark quiver]

what is this bruh

[atomic abyss]

any idea how much CV reload tech you have?

at this point i'd just drop the skyraider

[viscid swift]

may as well just run 3 BBs at that point

[atomic abyss]

ikr

[frosty slate]

No idea, tell me what should I look for and I'll check

[atomic abyss]

pah this will do

[cobalt rapids]

sirius if u got enty and newcomer missions still up
otherwise sandy

[atomic abyss]

sometimes simplicity is the best

[frosty slate]

And do I fill the rest of the gear with whatever?

[atomic abyss]

if you have more rainbow AA lying around, use them

[frosty slate]

Great! thank you

[atomic abyss]

sorry wrong order

[frosty slate]

soyuz is flag

[atomic abyss]

yeah

[frosty slate]

Great, thank you!

[warm flax]

Bismarck vs Rafaello for w15 boss?

[turbid marsh]

i would go for bismarck as more damage

[eternal basalt]

Please tell me that's BisII, not Bis

[last zenith]

this for my mini. so for the ex push why is it still locked

[ivory pawn]

Combat Data Collection I must be completed first.

[last zenith]

its also locked everything else is done

[ivory pawn]

The bar is at x% for I isn’t it? Just go get more exp on IJN Vanguards.

[last zenith]

alr

[opaque galleon]

Is mountain good on sub cat?

[stark quiver]

No lol

[viscid swift]

Not really

[slow fox]

Haters. I really like Mountain

[stark quiver]

Mebot don’t

I sent it too late

[tame jungle]

mebot did

[little tree]

I agree with mebot

[last zenith]

whats the best augment for unicorn

[stark quiver]

Very very little situations warrant a survivability talent
Better to go full offensive

Scepter most of the time

[last zenith]

ok

[little tree]

Do subs get healed from unicorn ?

[honest stirrup]

Mountain is already rarely used under normal circumstances
But on a SS cat? Like, they're not really supposed to get damaged in the first place

[forest palm]

Only one I know of that heals subs is Ryuuhou

[little tree]

[eternal basalt]

It counts for the entire fleet, so it's pretty good

[little tree]

Get mountain in vanguard and it's 6% total surely it stacks right ?

[eternal basalt]

As long as you call out the subs

[stark quiver]

doesnt the entire fleet just mean the sub fleet
because sub fleet and main fleet are different

[eternal basalt]

They did one update long ago to make it affect the whole fleet

[little tree]

Mebot was right thats a good sub cat

[little tree]

[zenith pebble]

[silent birch]

Thoughts on Franklin? Last day to buy the skin and I’m wondering if she is actually worth using

[tame jungle]

on average, she seems to be roughly as good as enterprise (factoring in enty's 70% chance)

[eternal basalt]

Buy skins because you like them, not for the worth of it's owner

[slow fox]

Does mountain only work on one cat? Can I get a fleet (+subs) with four Mountain?

[eternal basalt]

Probably.

Most probably aim for flame

[tame jungle]

on the meowfficer stat page it does add the two mountains together

[slow fox]

splendid

[tame jungle]

busted

[waxen valley]

My friend bought the level skip but it’s not in their mailbox what should they do

[little tree]

Restart game if not there contact support

[little tree]

^

[dark turret]

for these researches, are these something i should always have running? since u can queue them up or are the blueprints and prototypes not worth saving up for

[sinful escarp]

face researches that show the face of the ship you want, then rigging

if nothing, choose the shortest one

rigging is for equipment blueprints to craft gear

[dark turret]

thanks for clarifying cause i was gonna ask what that means

[soft raft]

If I have Daisen at D30 and everyone else in PR7 at at least D20-23, would I be able to D30 them by the time PR8 comes out

Been very on/off about grinding besides my dailies for the past few weeks lol

[tame jungle]

uhh when do pr seasons typically release again

[soft raft]

like Mid July

[tame jungle]

oh shit it's been that long already?

[soft raft]

yuh

Makes me also feel like a old man since I remember when PR5 was new lol

[tame jungle]

anyways i'm sorry i have no clue but i just wanted to refresh my memory lol

[little tree]

How are you supposed to catch up if your behind ~~ im barely done with 5 after 4

[weary gust]

Catchups (both mini events that give 30 and the ones that give 300/150), and there's more time than needed to max each season during each season. Plus you can coin older seasons.

[eager mulch]

who’s the next UR to go perma

nvm forget I asked

[slow fox]

Shinano (BB)

[weary gust]

Purple Shinano

[little tree]

[zenith pebble]

Imagine if it’s bismack lmao

[forest palm]

it's clearly Dork

[tame jungle]

bismarck zwei, better known as HMS vanguard

[eager mulch]

duke nubolomeus, better known as the goat

[tame jungle]

is that true?

[eager mulch]

the best to ever do it

[tame jungle]

i don't even have horns

[eager mulch]

look up

[tame jungle]

[vast sparrow]

Bru

[pale wing]

Any recommended build for NJ?

[soft raft]

The same as you would with any BB

tho if she isnt MLB, just bench her for the time being imma be real

Esp if Bismarck Zwei reruns next month

[carmine heath]

Is regular triple 155 worth using or should I upgrade it to kai

[forest palm]

Triple 155 is a oldie but a goodie, there's better than it but it can carry its weight, and you can upgrade them as needed later on

[soft raft]

Triple 155 is perfectly fine as a BB Secondary
the Triple 155 Kai is for use as a CL Main gun and BB Secondary in W14

[forest palm]

it is worth noting that upgrading gear refunds the plates and partial coins you spent

[zenith pebble]

x2 oil consumption doesnt mean x2 more coins right?

[forest palm]

it's 2 runs in one so it'll double the coin gain

[zenith pebble]

oh, so it just makes grinding fast

back to w12-4 then

[forest palm]

it makes the grind fast as in not playing after 6 runs of 2x

[zenith pebble]

6 becomes 3

yep, that math checks out

[forest palm]

there's really no point in using Help unless you're limited on time to play

[sinful escarp]

for example, you need event currency fast because you waited until last day to farm

[zenith pebble]

how many x2 oil do you usually get per week

ive got like 400

[stark quiver]

20

[zenith pebble]

oh

from dailies and weeklies?

[vale spindle]

better layout coming out soon tm

[zenith pebble]

ooo i need to get them from shop

[fast frigate]

does harder hard map increased its chance for retrofit blueprints?

[stark quiver]

nobody knows
but it givves more core data, so youd wnna do it either way

[sweet delta]

Do people use 6 fleets?

[weary gust]

I have my first two fleets set up for doing the most recent world, the next two are for leveling/grinding, the last two are ships ready to be swapped into the middle two when they reach 120.

[zenith pebble]

i made 4 for opsi and to keep track of gear

i gave up on campaign for now

[polar lion]

We can get double oil? Where?

[zenith pebble]

no no, this

[polar lion]

Oh

[zenith pebble]

not double oil. i forget the words to stuff

[polar lion]

HELP high performance Lars paln

[polar lion]

Stig, what is gain, worth, new skk?

[wind hazel]

how impactful the augment is
is it worth to craft the augment
is it worth to craft the augment for new players

[zenith pebble]

am i habing a stroke?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[zenith pebble]

[viscid swift]

sigh

[polar lion]

Oh mb I can't read

[storm heron]

is there a fast way to do all 10 x3 x3 sorties?

of the eventr

[wind hazel]

no

[polar lion]

So when u comparing 47 + aug I'm assuming it's being comparable with 37 base, right?

And is it based on both having hull + snorkel auxes?

[sweet delta]

47 gold Aug vs 37 purple Aug and both with whatever gear they're good with

[zenith pebble]

in yalls opinion, should i skip frostfall? it looks like a milestone event

[polar lion]

So does 37 with oxytorp instead of snorkel outshines 47 + unique Aug?

[sweet delta]

I said they're comparable with whatever gear they're each good with

[sweet delta]

On a completely unrelated note, saying 37 always takes oxytorp and 47 always takes snorkel would be quite narrow minded

[zenith pebble]

i thought subs should always have snorkel

[polar lion]

What auxes exactly does this refers to?

[dreamy blade]

snorkel+hull design is always good but not necessarily optimal

[zenith pebble]

is there a command

[zenith pebble]

3 snorkle on my fishes and some attack?

[dreamy blade]

what

[sweet delta]

I did not consider exact aux setups, just overall performance in expectation

[zenith pebble]

what would be ideal forsubs

[dreamy blade]

just like everything else, depends what youre doing with them

[polar lion]

Okay

[zenith pebble]

harbiter

[dreamy blade]

double bidders and snorkel+hull design is just easy to slap on everyone and call it a day

[zenith pebble]

is there an easier way to get ddouble bidders? ive got 1 rn

[tawdry halo]

hi chat, is Maya good and how good is she at in terms of tanking in comparison to retro Portland? I got her from 8-4

[dreamy blade]

who tf is maya

[zenith pebble]

i dont think anyone uses maya, portland is better

[weary gust]

Maya is pretty meh for her rarity, not much tankier than Portland, not worth training to be used. Only level for tech.

[tawdry halo]

right thanks

[dreamy blade]

[weary gust]

Those are all DDs so I'm guessing that's a DD page ...? Not sure where you're looking.

[atomic abyss]

Maya is the adopted taco class CA

[dreamy blade]

nvm i forgot ctrl+f doesnt work on google docs unless you use the built in search tool

[sweet delta]

Maya is Portland with AA.
Cheshire is Portland with even more AA.

[zenith pebble]

word? cheshire fs5 is actually good?

[atomic abyss]

It turns out she's one of the best AA specialists

[dreamy blade]

if you need a tank that can aa carry and dont have guam/laffii yes

[tawdry halo]

How do I utilize those tech things for Portland

[atomic abyss]

If you lack Z52, Guam and Laff 2
Sandy, Chesh and Shimanto are pretty much your best options for AA

[south sequoia]

Her fs5 doesn't do much outside damage boosts, if you only need her tank and AA it really isn't anything much

[atomic abyss]

I mean she's a gold PR
It's cheap to FS5 her

[zenith pebble]

its only 165 prints

[south sequoia]

Yeah

[weary gust]

Saying Maya is Portland with AA is like saying she's Portland with DPS ... yes she has more but it's not enough to make her fill that role. Maya's AA stat is low even if she has a skill to double it and her AA gun efficiency is bad and only 1x mount.

[sweet delta]

Maya isnt Portland with DPS

[slow fox]

Did I need to sort the table

[sweet delta]

/eaa maya

[tawdry halo]

arent them in fleet techs or something

[polar lion]

Also is there a particular reason for the Kear gun for the 4 strikes Fritz, 3 strikes Yorkii comp?

[weary gust]

What is that from?

[polar lion]

For HorMet

[slow fox]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[weary gust]

Fleet tech is passive bonuses to your ships that have reached max limit break.

You earn it by getting ships/getting them to level 120.

[sweet delta]

Try telling that to ectl
Portland is Eugen with DPS

[tawdry halo]

right

[tawdry halo]

Little Sandy's stats 😭

[atomic abyss]

Does San Diego being there assume retro?

Could you also add no retro but w/ aug

Since people will have that before retro

[slow fox]

Assumes retro.

Will add soon ™️

[atomic abyss]

Arigatou

[south sequoia]

wow this bot command is pretty neat

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[dreamy blade]

eAA when

[zenith pebble]

kazagumo is good cv buff and for mob?

[atomic abyss]

She is meant for opsi bosses/meta showdowns/cm primarily

She can be used on campaign in either fleet sure

She's not particularly amazing there tho

[zenith pebble]

people use her primarily based on her cv buff and not heal right?

[dreamy blade]

one of the best cv buffers and also has respectable dmg (esp if with amagi cv)

[weary gust]

Eh Kazagumo isn't great for mob, w14 is kinda an exception because ASW is valued so highly and backline survival can be an issue.

[atomic abyss]

The heal is negligible
It's for CV buffing

[zenith pebble]

okie

[atomic abyss]

DDs in general are mostly ass in campaign yes

[dreamy blade]

also fills the role of being the 3rd IJN ship in amagi+shinano fleets

[zenith pebble]

people like 52 because she is good tank?

[weary gust]

Z52 is good at everything

[atomic abyss]

Because she fulfils many roles

She's basically DD Plymouth

[weary gust]

She might be the most all-purpose ship in the game

[dreamy blade]

tank healer dps aa-carry debuffer

[zenith pebble]

jesus

[weary gust]

asw too, just by virtue of being a dd.

[sweet delta]

No that's Bulin

[viscid swift]

cheap to gear too

[atomic abyss]

She more or less outshone Rumey lol

[zenith pebble]

so keep her off tank in a agir/helena fleet?

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Assuming MLB ofc

[weary gust]

Use her on whichever fleet needs more help.

[viscid swift]

she's also cuter

[zenith pebble]

after bismarck zwei, which ur event would most likely here?

[viscid swift]

what

[atomic abyss]

The next UR due to rerun after Bis 2 is Unzen

Which shd be after JP anni at earliest

[zenith pebble]

where would i use her?

[atomic abyss]

Who

[zenith pebble]

unzen

[atomic abyss]

Unzen?
She's the best frontline dps in the game outside light armour

[zenith pebble]

off tank then, got it

[weary gust]

Unzen is Portland with DPS.

[zenith pebble]

is there a list of ur event order?

[atomic abyss]

Who wants to pull up Blaster's screenshot

[dreamy blade]

/summoningblaster

[atomic abyss]

As of now

Bis 2; Unzen; Guam+Laff2; Soyuz; Alsace+Mogador; Amagi (CV); Rumey+Z52; Rafaello

[zenith pebble]

52 is so far away

[grizzled sundial]

Is Haku still worth to invest ? She sit there in the ship yard waiting for the cube to finish developing but now i got amagi , shinano and impla .

[zenith pebble]

ill save ss

[weary gust]

If you have those three then Haku isn't too useful to you.

[atomic abyss]

If you got no other UR CVs, yes
Considering how easy she is to get

[viscid swift]

you can always just check the wiki for event release order....

[forest palm]

Frostfall on the 17th

[zenith pebble]

yes, i tried to find the release oder on there first but didnt know where to look

[dreamy blade]

classic belfast guy misinfo

[viscid swift]

what

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News

wiki has a page for essentially the patch notes of each year

they also have an events page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Events

which I turned into a more readable version here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-cF_Oin9VyOcVYJmbfjaJRL9bu6f39n-mlZMuoJZIs/edit?usp=sharing

[viscid swift]

because frankly that table sucks ass

[viscid swift]

also, care to explain

[dreamy blade]

bad joke about the 17th being more than a week from now but yes is next week

[zenith pebble]

belfast dude angry

[storm heron]

[eager mulch]

[onyx burrow]

i had a question about tactical class if i over cap the exp for lvl 10 skill does it carry over to something at all or is it lost to the void

[eager mulch]

void

[zenith pebble]

void

[onyx burrow]

[eager mulch]

void

[vast sparrow]

Oh crud, I really forgot now

Is this Phoenix?

[weary gust]

#al-general and no it's Houston.

[eager mulch]

🗿

just get caught by the shadow realm lil bro

[hallow mountain]

should i buy another f4u pirate squad corsair

I am in desperate need of good fighters

[weary gust]

No, and the F4U is not good.

[viscid swift]

well no considering that's only a minor upragde over the purple F4us

[atomic abyss]

Even the first wasn't worth

Just use purple corsairs

[true kraken]

What is the strongest backline ship right now?

[viscid swift]

define strongest and in what context

[true kraken]

Oneshot the bost in any content

[viscid swift]

well no ship meets that requirement

[true kraken]

To bad, this game aint for me

[stark quiver]

I’d say it’s ranger on a good day

[sharp pine]

Apart from the LA-9, are the other pr7 planes good for anything? I have enough prints for two of each.

[viscid swift]

Bearcat is the best floatplane, not that that's terribly useful
and Vit-2 is another sidegrade to the convergig TBs, highest alpha but also the longest reload

[fast frigate]

if i have duplicate meowfficer, are like some kinda limit break system or what

[stark quiver]

Feed a bad cat to a good cat

Be sure to know what’s good or not first
Feel free to do /cats in #bot-spam

[fast frigate]

How do i feed i couldnt find option for feeding

[stark quiver]

Enhance tab

Left side

[fast frigate]

Ty

[carmine heath]

Roll 40d6

If it lands on a seven you get ranger on a good day

[whole stump]

Ur exchange carries over to next one? Or no

[mint flint]

it doesnt, only perma ur pity remains

[whole stump]

Ahh so event pulls count towards perma too? Or

[mint flint]

only events without UR ships count towards perma UR pity

[whole stump]

Makes sense ty!

[mint flint]

ie: this one

[viscid swift]

Might wanna rethink that one...

[eternal moth]

This event counts towards perma pity though

[mint flint]

minor lapse in judgement

[stark quiver]

we get 1 week dead week after this event?

[hoary relic]

isnt that there are 2 dead weeks in this event?

i just need 1 day to finish everything

including investigating and farming points

[eternal moth]

Basically. Just the Lil Formidable event this coming maint

[stark quiver]

i can mlb her now

[normal cedar]

is there no way to obtain eldridge retrofit item other tha to wait for 2026 rerun?
if so, is there any point in getting her from the merit shop without her retrofit

[forest palm]

Frostfall the following week

[viscid swift]

No

[rapid grail]

no and no

no point farming frostfall right

[polar lion]

There are gold plates up for grab

And lotsa chips

[light trail]

since affinity is just per-battle, does that mean the hospital event battles are more efficient for building affinity, fuel and time-wise?

[hybrid willow]

I leveled her, her skills, and retrofitted as far as I could, that way when it reruns, I just have one piece to get her done lol

[normal cedar]

I see, ig its better for me though to spend the merits on something else for now..

[normal cedar]

time wise yes, since it's a single battle without map or drops; idk the oil cap fuel comparison, depends on what you compare it to

[light trail]

comparing to, say, 12-1

coins and exp aren't a big focus rn either, i just wanna rush implac and shinano to 200 affinity

[zenith pebble]

how many free ur bulin do you get monthly

[stark quiver]

what do you define free?

[zenith pebble]

the ones you dont get at the shop

[hollow gust]

1.75 irc

[stark quiver]

you get 1 every 2 months from cruise pass

[zenith pebble]

so 1.5 mlb per year

[hollow gust]

1.25 from shop and .5 from cruise

Then theres a bulin every event

[hollow gust]

1.75 x 12 is 21 bulins

[zenith pebble]

tf is 1.75

[hollow gust]

.

[zenith pebble]

a bulin and a decapitaed bulin?

[hollow gust]

[rigid onyx]

are UR retro upgrade item reruns usually a 2 year delay? I always thought they were faster. saw something different after backreading

[hollow gust]

You 5k spec cores a month , which equals to 1.25 bulins

[rigid onyx]

5k spec core 1k from shop and then 1 per 2 months from cruise is exactly 2

without shop is 1.75

[hollow gust]

Oh right, they increase the cap , totally forgot

1.5+.5 is correct

Which is 24 bulins which means 6 mlb a year , still far as fuck from how you got 1.5mlb a year

[zenith pebble]

i said nothing from the shop

1 bulin per 2 months from cruise would be 6

i know i cant achieve 5k spec cores in a month

[hollow gust]

Then it's 1.75 bulins a month , so where are you getting 1.5mlb a year from

[wind hazel]

should be 1

[hollow gust]

We don't get many UR retrofits so hard to predict

[wind hazel]

all 3 have been 1 year rerun

no reason for eldridge to suddenly be 2

[hollow gust]

You get that much from finishing weeklys

Many people finish 5k by the 2nd week

[zenith pebble]

good to know, i only get on about an hour a day

[stark quiver]

unless youre staring at skins for an hour, that should be enough

[zenith pebble]

with 6-9 sorties?

[hollow gust]

The amount of spec cores gain is catered to newbies

[sharp echo]

if ship already 125, the excess exp goes to the school book right?

[hollow gust]

No , it caps and then exp goes to nowhere
The book is just a percentage of the exp gain for ships higher then lvl100

[sharp echo]

ooh
the book still only get from small % exp

[hollow gust]

It stacks up over time

[sharp echo]

what does it do?

[atomic abyss]

DDG missile strike
Acts like sub hunting dmg
Takes a HP% off all enemies on the node hit

[little tree]

Is Santa fe worth pulling ?

[stark quiver]

shes good tech

[little tree]

Hmm should I pull for her at 700 cubes ?

[stark quiver]

shes not bad either
sure if you want,

[little tree]

Only spent 20 cubes gg

[icy cave]

Must be nice

[little tree]

Had to pity pull last 2 ur ;_;

[icy cave]

I take back my words my condolences brother

[alpine condor]

is the bulin brigade event done?

oh nvm lmaoaoaoa thanks ya

[storm heron]

stacked bulin event is still there, idk when it ends

[stark quiver]

It’s there but can you still do it

[tame orchid]

Any way to farm these things

[atomic abyss]

Operation siren
Drops are irregular

[tame orchid]

Ah

Any idea which corruption level have the highest drop rates

[atomic abyss]

C3 or C5

[tame orchid]

Aight thanks

[zenith pebble]

C5 has cats

[hollow gust]

They both do

[eternal basalt]

C3 has up to 1 cat, C5 has up to 2 cats though

[rapid grail]

2 lazy to open the game but is there more reward worth it in this event point accumulation rewards?

the alt is at 31k pts

[eternal basalt]

40k for cog chips, 32k for something else

10 golden parts

[rapid grail]

C5 is time efficient, C3 will give a bit more opsi mats if considering with or without the optional akashi shops (they sometimes give AP needed to continue farming)

[rapid grail]

Ok thanks. Event so bad this time, but at least it's quite fast to farm up the needed pts

[eternal basalt]

Just wait for the Frostfall rerun, even sadder rewards there

[honest sequoia]

whats a frostfall rerun

[storm heron]

an event

/wiki frostfall

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Action_Report_-_Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Action_Report:_Frostfall

Apr 9, 2025, 7:34 AM

[honest sequoia]

yea uh is that event worth farming

[wind hazel]

worth more than this tbh

[honest sequoia]

what does that even drop?

[rancid mural]

Can you increase how many ships are made at once?

[wind hazel]

open the link and you'll see the rewards

[honest sequoia]

and also for this which is better to farm c5 or c3??

[wind hazel]

got time=c3
no time=c5

[honest sequoia]

Alr got it

[honest sequoia]

actually bout that
if c5 drop more cat nodes for loots
how is c3 better besides more akashi shop??

[sweet delta]

It's cheaper to enter!!

C5 averages 1 cat node for 30 ap, c3 averages 0.5 cat nodes for 15 ap

[honest sequoia]

That makes sense now
Thanks

[stuck sluice]

Anyone have a full auto lethal team for chapter 15?

[jaunty vault]

for clearing or for auto searching?

/w15 has example fleets

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[rose cosmos]

@wind hazel way better now, but still needs a lot of work

[wind hazel]

well yes, +13, correct gear, tech etc

as long as 2 shot, consider it a win

[hot oriole]

almost had commander's lvl of 60 but out of oil

😭 😭

[hoary relic]

[hoary relic]

no helena?

weird

[normal cedar]

you cant get the 5 cubes this event unless you clear esp right?

[hoary relic]

technically, yup

[hoary relic]

@normal cedarbut make sure to get enough points for 700coredata

700coredata is a lot, ngl

[normal cedar]

yea,i think I got enough

[tame jungle]

bruh

[storm heron]

lmao

[hoary relic]

that's way too far from enough bruh

yamato when lol?

[sacred dragon]

I just finished stage 5 of the campaign, I am looking to replace Pennsylvania.
Is there a ship i can farm to replace her? or not worth to oil? I'm unable to do stage 6 cause i haven't reached commander lv40 yet.

[hoary relic]

hood isnt a bad idea

[wind hazel]

you'll be using penny until 2nd fleet, not anytime soon

[hoary relic]

or nelson

[wind hazel]

unless you can get a new BB from medal shop

[hoary relic]

wait is that laffey is an alcoholic?

[sacred dragon]

I dont have nelson or enough medals (43 currently), but my penny is lvl capped. it is better to get anotther copy from the guild shop to limit break or use a bulin? or farm nelson?

[wind hazel]

use bulin

feel free to limit break your ships with purple bulins

you will get a free nelson from rookie reward naturally, but she won't be replacing penny right out of the gate

[sacred dragon]

should i also be focusing on leveling up penny her skills or not worth investing in the long run?

[wind hazel]

you should level it

penny's performance is very tied to her skill

[hoary relic]

u will replace penny in May as bis zwei's banner rerun

not really worthy to level up her skill

[wind hazel]

stop giving shit advice

[sacred dragon]

[eternal basalt]

Def. NOT May

[wind hazel]

1. there is a new UR for CN anni next month
2. no indication whether a new player will be able to secure BisZ on her rerun
3. even if they do, no indication they can mlb her

[eternal basalt]

1. Might be 2

[wind hazel]

general rules; level up the skills of the ships you're using. exception can be made for ship like Portland

if you see ships that rely heavily on their barrage to perform, such as Pennsylvania, prioritize it and max level it

[hoary relic]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips @sacred dragon have u checked this?

[sacred dragon]

oh then i should bulin her and level that skill to like lv7 ish. cause i have been neglecting her over my other units

[wind hazel]

to lv10 if you can

[sacred dragon]

yeah

[wind hazel]

to reiterate, limit break whenever you can

at lv10, at lv30, and full limit break at lv70

purple bulin come in numbers, no need to save them. not limit breaking your ships is making them underperform

only be picky on the gold bulin, because they are scarce

be extremely picky on UR bulin

[hoary relic]

1 ur bulin per month eh

still exetremely picky

[wind hazel]

it's slightly more than 1

[tame jungle]

on average it's more

still roughly 2 months to MLB 1 UR ship

[hoary relic]

6k spec core per months right?

[eternal basalt]

2 per month (1.5 and cruise pass)

[tame jungle]

and UR events give 1 bulin if you get the milestone ofc

[hoary relic]

2months for per cruise pass but we only need like nearly a month to complete it

[tame jungle]

yes so that's 1 per 2 months

[eternal basalt]

Inclusing reruns

[tame jungle]

inclusing reruns indeed

[paper walrus]

what does the fleet lock button do in opsi

[tame jungle]

it skips the fleet formation screen

[hoary relic]

no need to start battle manually

[wind hazel]

skips the prebattle screen

[paper walrus]

[hoary relic]

but that isnt recommended if u dont remember the armor of the boss in abyssal or stronghold

[tame jungle]

you use it in the other 99% of opsi

[hoary relic]

for map clearing,ofc

[sacred dragon]

Thank you all for the advice, just one last question if commander lvl hold me back (need lv40 for stage 6), should i just farm the highest available stage?

[wind hazel]

can you do event night stage? or what's your ships average level now

[sacred dragon]

lv70

[wind hazel]

awkward, just grind highest stage i guess

[sacred dragon]

I havent done the event, wasnt sure if that would be better than campeign

[wind hazel]

if you're approaching ~80 you can go grind at war archive's universe in unison or passionate polaris SP5

go do event, it gives you rewards

from the missions

just do whatever you can since it's the last day

[sacred dragon]

just collect pages right?

[normal cedar]

what do I do after saint louis research? i dont have non eagle vanguard to actually fulfill neptune or roon's exp requirements
im at 490 eagle tech points now and have 190 anchorage bps
ill be pushing campaign to 9-1 soon, can I efficiently level up low level eagle ships there for hitting anchorage requirement tech points?

[woven star]

I think in AL calculator there is a misunderstand. Strasburg skill **decrease **load time of first salvo while there increase

her first salvo after preload much more faster

[boreal wagon]

it is indeed a bug, ill fix whenever i get time

[polar lion]

How to see explanation for the main gun cd on mobile again?

[dreamy blade]

dont worry about research until youre at w12

after sanrui you can just put it on roon to unlock the missions over time but dont worry about the combat data collection portion yet

[boreal wagon]

tap on the cooldown (i know its not easy)

[hoary relic]

If u alr finish all 3 newcomer missions u can start doing newcomer quests for each pr and get cdc pack which gain u exp for mission 1 and 3 but not recommended as exchange them for protocore bp is worthier

[normal cedar]

I already exchanged them all so yeah...
I'll just put it to something else for now then, thanks

[polar lion]

What is preload targeting and stage delay? I know guns has abs cd

[woven star]

tap here or here

[boreal wagon]

there is about a 1.5s period before the game actually starts loading guns (stage delay)
preloads have a problem that there is two things that can effectively delay them:
a) the boss hasnt spawned yet and the weapon requires a target
b) the auto battle AI hasnt kicked in yet (because it doesn't start immediately)

[dreamy blade]

manjuu skill issue

[polar lion]

Does b) refers to the initial 3s of every battle?

Does a) affects all ships?z52 doesn't has a preload

[boreal wagon]

all vanguard guns are preloaded

i just choose to hide their preload count because otherwise very slot would have it lol

b) refers to the fact that auto battle has a slight delay to kicking in, it is ontop of the 3s

the 1.5s (stage delay) are half of the 3s you are refering to (during the other half nothing at all can happen but guns already load)

[polar lion]

Preload cd affects every time the gun goes on cd or just when the battle starts?

[boreal wagon]

it shifts all loads if the ship doesnt have >1 capacity

so a BB like alsus only has her first shot (after preload) delayed

(vanguard guns all have a capacity of 1)

there are edge cases like gascogne because she loads both her shots at once but you can figure how that one would work

if you need a better or deeper explanation ask thorin or suchi

(also to more accurately answer you the targeting delay is only applied once, but it can shift all based on what i explained above)

[woven star]

and depends what do you mean in terms "preload"

[polar lion]

Just to clarify, so for z52 does it look liek this:

Stage delay + preload delay + abs cd > abs cd > abs cd > abs cd and so on

Or

Stage delay + preload delay + abs cd > preload delay + abs cd > preload delay + abs cd > preload delay + abs cd and so on

[boreal wagon]

the former

[polar lion]

Ah was abt to ask bout that

Okay2 that clears thing. Thanks

[boreal wagon]

but because the preload delay happens at the start it does shift them all
it just doesnt repeat

[polar lion]

Okay understood

[boreal wagon]

technically the first abs cd also doesnt happen i think but i dont remember and it barely matters

[boreal wagon]

there is really only one kind of preload

it just refers to a gun/airstrike/torp being already loaded when the battle starts

it just so happens that this is always true for vanguard guns

[wheat ore]

Is there a way you can read the whole name of the items?

[steady rain]

does t1-t4 event stages give same amounts of event points?

[polar lion]

I always assume Alsus shoots last coz of her preload dragging all of her subsequent salvos. Good to know the preload salvo is separate from the first salvo cd

[boreal wagon]

(it only is because she can hold 2 shots)

[tame jungle]

iirc alsace is also just slow as shit

don't think she has any built-in rld

[boreal wagon]

clicking on them does show you their full name, but i dont remember if it lets you do that if you dont have enough

[hoary relic]

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Prize_Shop

[hoary relic]

when should i craft flapjack?

cuz im saving for 10rai rn

[woven star]

not really, as usual. weird thing that Flandre at same setup has better damage

[tame jungle]

177 rld no buff compared to all the other UR BBs is pretty low

[polar lion]

when u r dying from plane crashes u need good interception liek tackling 13-3 ig

[wheat ore]

thanks

do the skins in the prize shop ever rotate?

[hoary relic]

even sandy cant handle 13-3?

[woven star]

Kear 155, FdG 159... top URs it's always top BisZw 196, Vang 214 and btw Musi 156...so

[tame jungle]

did not read the skills award ^

[woven star]

it's just we have 2-3 leaders

[polar lion]

U want both AA and planes coz for AA you are subjected to frontline movement rng

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[hoary relic]

[left cedar]

Oathed FdG fires quickier than Bis2 by 2s... cuz of her skill

i dint need to mention same guns, right ?

[tame jungle]

[hoary relic]

[woven star]

true but there is a lot more factors of good and bad... btw Souyuz have low base rld but with skill much higher... anyway I don't have Alsace and guns cds maybe is not a biggest factor

[whole crypt]

nearly all UR BBs have RLD skill and end up in similar ballpark because the times don't scale hugely from the RLD formula at that point

[hoary relic]

[wheat ore]

do people just leave the exam beginner mission unfinished, one of the tasks is to marry a ship and I don't have any ships i want to give ring to

[whole crypt]

exceptions are Alsace who have no RLD skll but have preload, and VG just being too fast

then there's Kearsarge but she kind of has her own niche

[hoary relic]

u can marry helena if u want cuz she is compulsory for boss fleet,isnt she?

[whole crypt]

she is not

[tame jungle]

she isn't

[wheat ore]

oh I was thinking of that cuz she has a nice skin

[tame jungle]

just oath whoever you like, it's fine to hold off on it

[whole crypt]

and you also don't need to oath any specific ship for meta

[hoary relic]

so there is someone can replace helena for her role?

[wheat ore]

like the small buff doesn't matter that much in the long run?

[whole crypt]

no but stack enough damage and Helena becomes redundant

also Helena bad for late campaign

[hoary relic]

[hoary relic]

for boss fleet only right?

[whole crypt]

regardless just oath a ship you like, if no one you like enough now just hold on to it

[dreamy blade]

theres no timer on the missions, they arent going anywhere

[whole crypt]

Helena is essentially a boss fleet ship, and ch14/15 boss fleets don't want her

[wheat ore]

yeah that's true

[hoary relic]

is that because we cant sync with her debuff or her lacking off dmg/AA?

[dreamy blade]

too squishy, unremarkable AA/ASW, her dmg buff isnt needed

[polar lion]

Newbie bros in arms 🤝

[woven star]

biggest reason for oath is for main fleet to get some more stats, vanguard for 🐳 s

[whole crypt]

you just don't want to sync in 14/15 bossing, Helena flimsy aside

[wheat ore]

how long have you been playing?

[left cedar]

my biggest reasons to oath is
i like the waifu, and that is it, thats why i did with Aoba, Nachi and others

[hoary relic]

[chrome jackal]

best reason

[polar lion]

I'm a new player liek u too

[whole crypt]

oathing for stats is a rabbit hole

if you're not putting in a fair bit of money just forget it and oath waifus

[dreamy blade]

nachi mentioned

[wheat ore]

ah i see

[left cedar]

another cultured skk here
nice waifu u have

[chrome jackal]

indeed my friend

[hoary relic]

mommy supremacy isnt it

[chrome jackal]

would this work for 12-4 exp farming for brest and is there any other gun i could sub out for the UR one?

[woven star]

stop, are they have oath skins?

[hoary relic]

aint that 12-4 is so ez that u dont even need UR gear to beat it?

[whole crypt]

the long and short of syncing in 14/15 is that the boss fights are actually just harder mob fights with the boss in the way, and you want your main fleet spread out to defeat waves as they come, so you get very little mileage out of Helena, her own mediocre stats not withstanding

[chrome jackal]

well yk never hurts to make 12-4 suffer whiel ur forced to farm it for xp xD

[hoary relic]

so u mean helena is only good for short battle like meta or OpSi?

[whole crypt]

and the long and short of stat oathing is either you oath everyone in main fleet or you don't oath at all to avoid messing up timings, the amount of stat buff is generally inconsequential to most content

[whole crypt]

she's fine for earlier chapters where mob waves in boss node are less deadly and you have a fair chance of sniping the boss fast enough with radar

otherwise then yes just mostly for special boss fights, if you need her to get enough damage

modern top end fleets can oneshot harbs if set up right without Helena, META showdowns will depend on specific fight gimmicks

[hoary relic]

what is harb, i havent got used to short forms yet

[hollow gust]

hard arbiter, the boss in the middle

[woven star]

....operation siren map

[hoary relic]

so we can actually 1shot it?

[crisp estuary]

[cobalt rapids]

u can 1 strike it

[hoary relic]

wow

[crisp estuary]

50:50
Either you one shot it or you do not

[chrome jackal]

man hearing about harbs gives me ptsd from suffering to beat it just to fail at the end

[hoary relic]

normal arbiter alr gave me enough pain

[chrome jackal]

that i can atleast personaly beat xD
(even tho i didnt touch it for like a year beffor trying again)

[hoary relic]

oh so im not alone, cool

[chrome jackal]

scary middle boss

[hoary relic]

so i guess we need to play this game for like 6years to be able to 1 shot harb

[wind hazel]

no

[chrome jackal]

i doubt, u can probs do it sooner if u get the gear and fleets ready

[hoary relic]

[cobalt rapids]

i think its possible sooner aswell

[chrome jackal]

iv been on al since iv returned for 2 years almost now and iv progresssed alot from my lvl 70 to 114

[cobalt rapids]

like 1-2years

[hoary relic]

really?

[wind hazel]

if you know what you're doing yes

[chrome jackal]

i dont so i gave up with harbs for now xD

[cobalt rapids]

technically u can do it with 1-2 months on a new acc if u pray to rng gods enough

[hoary relic]

the only thing i know what to do now is choosing right gear to counter the boss's armor

because the lack of ships, i mostly use a mixed fleet for everything

[chrome jackal]

rng gods disdain me sometimes on AL after giving me so many 10 pull UR's

[whole crypt]

you can oneshot with like 3-4 years in your pocket, you just need to prioritize what you need

[cobalt rapids]

for 1 strike
one shot is way earlier

[whole crypt]

I don't remember if you can onestrike without Helena, never quite bothered with that boat
also not bothering changing to fishpack

[hoary relic]

[wind hazel]

can i 1 strike as f2p?

[cobalt rapids]

ships and gear keep getting powercrept but opsi has stayed the same

[hoary relic]

why not?

[wind hazel]

because sometimes oath is needed to meet certain rld timing

[hoary relic]

[chrome jackal]

adapt honestly xD

[whole crypt]

it's less about paying and more about actually using the right ships and gear
some fights have timings that may not be negotiable without oath

[hoary relic]

so the next week is a dead one right?

[wind hazel]

seems like it

[hoary relic]

ah boo that's gonna be abit boring

[chrome jackal]

oh thank god i can atleast build some cubes back up

[whole crypt]

more time to wrap up leveling

hopefully can finish tech before CN anniv, or JP anniv latest

[chrome jackal]

i hope i can save enoguh cubes for a guranteed bismark zwei on her rerun

[hoary relic]

why BisW gives twice tech points as NJ

[molten zinc]

Because IB

[whole crypt]

because KMS ships have basically double tech points to compensate for fewer ships

[hoary relic]

BisW is better than NJ right?

[whole crypt]

generally yes, can't think of any case where she'll be worse off the top of my head

[wind hazel]

pvp

[whole crypt]

but I don't even use NJ for PvP

[wind hazel]

yeah but we're talking about nj vs bisz, not what you use for pvp

[hoary relic]

im just wondering should i mlb NJ first for tech points to unlock ancho or mlb bisW first for boss fleet

[chrome jackal]

Casualy confused whos BisW

[tame jungle]

don't waste bulins on NJ

[dreamy blade]

bismarck zwei

[hoary relic]

Bismarck Zwei

[chrome jackal]

O

[hoary relic]

the one who gonna rerun soon, as i heard

[polar lion]

Dang, u r finishing the entire tech already?

[wind hazel]

EU ships are everywhere, you can get them easily

[hoary relic]

[tame jungle]

do it with the 30 morbillion purple bulins you get

[hoary relic]

which is better? using exp books or doing 12-4

[chrome jackal]

12-4 cuz coins

[hoary relic]

alr time to farm then

[tame jungle]

getting random purples to 70 is not that expensive in terms of books, provided you got a decent stockpile of coins

[normal cedar]

is helena meta usable if you don't have any great vanguard ships? ive set her as my first dossier

[whole crypt]

old folks who have nothing better to do, yes

[dreamy blade]

jintsuu meta might be more useful (for her high trp stat for hard mode requirements)

[hoary relic]

every UR rerun after 2 years from their first banner?

[chrome jackal]

Ye

[polar lion]

12-4 coz cogs

[whole crypt]

Jintsuu META is literally the only META ship that currently actively occupies a niche alone in current game, though it's really just pvp

[hoary relic]

ngl but i need array chips not cogs

[dreamy blade]

thats normal for new players

[whole crypt]

eventually you'll want cog chips but yeh array can fall short earlier on

[dreamy blade]

i have personally yet to drop below 11k cog chips after ~6 months

[whole crypt]

it's really just a fodder-leveling and pacing thing

[hoary relic]

i guess i dont have so many ships rn so my cogs are stacking up

[whole crypt]

it's less of having the ships and more of actually actively leveling everything to 120

[hoary relic]

for tech points tbh

[chrome jackal]

im sitting on so many normal ones cuz i havent lvled many ships as most the ships i need are already lvl

[polar lion]

Na u r just slaccing. Get to grinding

[chrome jackal]

mm free gear i wont open cuz i have to much gear in my inv and idk what to delete lol

[dreamy blade]

all that ASW tech youre missing out on

[chrome jackal]

ASW?

[hoary relic]

those tech boxes are trash after we can craft gears from gear lab ngl

[polar lion]

Donate chips

[chrome jackal]

trade chips for cubes

[hoary relic]

tbh i feel t3 boxes are much more useful than T4 and T5 boxes for oldbies

[whole crypt]

I too once had 6 digits chips

[dreamy blade]

blue boxes are the best bc you need gray plates for gear research

[hoary relic]

the rigging one?

[dreamy blade]

yes, 1hr rigging requires gray plates

[chrome jackal]

well ur more further in ur grind then me and ur finishing up ur tech stuff so it explains xD

[whole crypt]

I've semi-joked about running out of grey plates but you really don't spend them fast enough

[dreamy blade]

i unironically had to craft some blue torps in depot to dismantle for plates so i could take a research

[whole crypt]

unless you're enhancing a lot of gear on the side then...

[hoary relic]

i thought we always got grey plate everytime we sortie

[whole crypt]

you can buy grey plates, by the way

[dreamy blade]

i still need the bulins if you mean the medal shop

[whole crypt]

grey plates aren't that expensive in shop

[polar lion]

All I'm seeing here is 4 gold cranes which u can scrap

[whole crypt]

just grind more ship drops and retire if you really need that medal

[whole crypt]

4 purple aux plates, great

[dreamy blade]

usually i dont have an issue with plates/medals but this event sucks

[hoary relic]

unless u got steam catapult from it

[whole crypt]

how many points did you grind

[dreamy blade]

ngl i dont mind getting gold cranes bc i need purple aux plates still

[dreamy blade]

40k

[hoary relic]

[whole crypt]

that should have been plenty of time to go back to normal grinds

[chrome jackal]

probably after i clear w15 ill start grinding events more to get high points too

[dreamy blade]

just bad rng bc i have a ton of other gray plates, just no torps

[whole crypt]

maybe, I wish I got 1hr rigging enough to run out of grey plates

[chrome jackal]

jesus christ man

[hoary relic]

[chrome jackal]

ay gimi those hard mode core data stuff

[polar lion]

sureee how many do u need? I wish we can

[hoary relic]

damn, that's a lot

[chrome jackal]

seeing ppl with thousands whiel im always stuck on 0-300 cubes

cuz all events make me sufer 😭

[late flame]

cubes are ez - just dun pull

[hoary relic]

bad luck belike:
i feel sorry for bro

[inland shoal]

[hoary relic]

i only need 10-40 pulls for my last 2 UR

[chrome jackal]

bro i get a UR in a 10 pull and i wont see the elite or gold untill im dry of cubes 😭

[hoary relic]

10 pulls for raff and 30 pulls for implac

[inland shoal]

If you wanna talk about your pulls why not go to #trophy-room

[hoary relic]

is there anyone that rich to craft augment modules for common ships

[whole crypt]

it's not about being rich it's about resource management

if you try to make everything you won't have enough augment mats

[inland shoal]

Not sure if it's possible to have enough cores to make all unique augs

[late flame]

+most of those not worth the trouble

[whole crypt]

maybe, but you might be forgoing making regular augs completely

[dreamy blade]

you would also have to be buying every cruise pass

[whole crypt]

that's a given

the thing is it also means the later you start (after the introduction of augments), the more behind you'll be on cores

if you tried to make everything, since there's no way to grind extra cores

there's no way to gain any advantage with earning cores

[chrome jackal]

event shops?

[dreamy blade]

those are one of the very limited sources of non-grindable cores yes

[chrome jackal]

atleast something tho?

[dreamy blade]

thats already factored into overall aug core income, you cant keep up at the rate they release new unique augs

[whole crypt]

including those, the maximum everyone can grind is the same

there's no way to RNG or pay for more

[late flame]

(yet)

[whole crypt]

cruise pass aside

[chrome jackal]

Ah didnt know

[whole crypt]

I won't say for sure if they keep up, but it does mean if you start later or miss anything, you're on the backfoot

[chrome jackal]

Im already on the backfoot as i havent maxed out events

[whole crypt]

well, the simple solution is just don't make everything

because you really don't need all the unique augs

[chrome jackal]

Iv personaly made only a few

[whole crypt]

the game is more resource management than anything else

[hoary relic]

i heard that w16 will be added, when then?

[whole crypt]

I haven't heard anything but hey I also haven't checked weibo in a while

[late flame]

me who is still at w13 : uh ok

[chrome jackal]

Oh god i hope i can beat w15 beffor w16 comes so i can feel proud to have clear the whole campain

[whole crypt]

do you have a good source or did you just hear another trust me bro

[late flame]

kek oh wait i'm stealing nagami's job

[hoary relic]

just heard from some oldbies since raff banner

and since im a newbie so i have no idea abt that

[late flame]

"trust me bro"

[hoary relic]

yamato when?

[chrome jackal]

In 100 years

[whole crypt]

we have no real idea for anything that's not announced, and off the top of my head 16 hasn't been announced

[inland shoal]

We basically don't rly know anything past the next week

[late flame]

anyways what would be the use case for VH plating? or its like, never?

[hoary relic]

for CB?

[whole crypt]

VH is pretty much niche, if you're not sure just don't use it

closest we have to finding out about potential ch16 is CN anniversary, wait for stream in May

[hoary relic]

[late flame]

watch cn speedrun stream

[hoary relic]

btw aint that bisW banner was 5/2023?

[whole crypt]

BisZwei was indeed May 2023

[hoary relic]

so technically her rerun would be in May 2025 right?

[chrome jackal]

Her rerun sould be may or june

[whole crypt]

based on recent schedules I would expect June, soon after the new anniv

[chrome jackal]

More less yeah chances are its 2 years 1 month as alot of UR ship reruns have 1 month after 2 years

[whole crypt]

but again we don't know until the actual announcements come

[dreamy blade]

does shimanto just want fast torps for her skill 1

[hoary relic]

sound nice, more time to get UR blins

[cobalt rapids]

torps synced for fire cleansing or dmg torps shes not scylla

[whole crypt]

you'll probably be fine using either triple mags or quad bags

don't try to use anything faster

[dreamy blade]

you mean scylla wants fast torps? or synced to carriers

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt use her on ST but ig syncing her to ur cvs is an option then

[paper walrus]

me having to wait one year for sovetsky soyuz she has the most gorgeous art ive ever seen

[normal cedar]

how do I switch to dossier screen from here? i hate opsi ui

[hoary relic]

click the boss list

[dreamy blade]

you cant switch to dossier while theres an active meta fight

[normal cedar]

oh ok

[normal cedar]

thanks, I found the way thr boss list

[hoary relic]

me waiting every week for another stronghold

[normal cedar]

do rerun non ur ships like blucher and z16 also get added to perma pool after 9-10 months like ur ships?

[hollow gust]

Well not that time period but yes eventually

[normal cedar]

so it's longer than ur ships? or same timeline as ur?

[hollow gust]

Perm is weird schedule , never that consistent

[hoary relic]

[normal cedar]

is there a schedule to ships getting dropped out of pool as well? I checked koumakan and I found the pattern was 2-3 years after adding to perma pool?

[eternal basalt]

~ 12 months after rerun they go perma

[jaunty vault]

there's no set schedule for it afaik

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks a lot!
Makes sense, now that I see a lot of old ships like howe are still in pool...

[eternal basalt]

Howe isn't that old

[whole crypt]

Howe is about half the game's life ago

Howe was from Noctis right?

[hollow gust]

Ye same event as Percy

[whole crypt]

yeh about half, a wee bit more

[forest palm]

6 years is pretty old....

[eager mulch]

Howe old

[forest palm]

[soft raft]

Just like the average GPH regular

[eternal basalt]

31 August 2023 she became permanent, less than 2 years ago

[turbid marsh]

well you did say that thats when she became permanent. so very old ship indeed.

[hushed finch]

Any Saint Louis equipment build guide?

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=saint_louis

[hushed finch]

Thank you man

[keen sable]

Burn

[hushed finch]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[little tree]

how gph vets feel

[forest palm]

slap a 234 on her a rudder and fumo and your good to go

[little tree]

[forest palm]

well then again would a Triple 234 be better than using a Proto BL 8" Mk 10/Mle 1931

provided you don't have a 203/55

[hollow gust]

234 sucks for her

[honest sequoia]

or just use the beehive gun

[forest palm]

ya don't say, of course you'd use 203/55 on her if you have it, but would the 234's raw damage outweigh exist budget HE options is the thing

[hollow gust]

234 and budget don't correlate , if you can afford a 234, you can afford a 203mle

[forest palm]

the question really goes over your head

or you just choose to ignore it

[hollow gust]

Her entire kit is reliant in HE ammo, 234 is shit

[forest palm]

thanks for reestablishing this, now the actual question...

[hollow gust]

Since you can't read context clues

203mle is easily obtainable , it's far far better then whatever raw damage 234. 234 will get shit on by basically every decent he ca gun.

[forest palm]

CL Gun

"context clue", no I'd rather a proper written explanation rather than something be palmed off as "sucks" because that lacks so much context

[hollow gust]

234 is not HE ammo, 234 not good for Saint , all of Saint kit is reliant on he ammo

[forest palm]

see was that so hard?

swear need to pull teeth to get a brain exercise going

[hollow gust]

Literally what I already said but you can't chain sentences

[paper mural]

If I bring BM's such as Erebus and Terror to level 120, which class of ships gets the fleet tech stat? CA's or BB's?

Asking mainly because those ships are slotted in the backline

[soft raft]

CA, CB, and BM

[hollow gust]

Erebus is cruiser tech pretty sure , yeaaah

[forest palm]

oh ya no it's CA + CB + BM

[paper mural]

It does say that, but I guess it was just weird to me how a backline ship's fleet tech stat would go to a front line category of ships. And BM's themselves I guess, though I can't think of any BM ships that matter at the moment from a power perspective

[forest palm]

I think all BM give RLD, which is kind of eh...

[boreal wagon]

they do indeed all give rld
and the reason they give to frontlines has something to do with how they arent quite battleships (as in thats probably how the devs justified it at the time)

[woven star]

DDGs?

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

BMs are what you get when you take an escort ship and slap a BB turret on it

[woven star]

OK it's manipulation but wth backline ships have vanguard tech

I thought monitors are frontliners with bb guns. Never used them

[normal cedar]

Is it normal to have this much level difference in your main fleet? I had synced their levels once near lvl 80 but they seem to have diverged a lot since