gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

~~just realize how far back that pic was ~~

[stark quiver]

Same vibe as me responding to a message 14h ago because discord refuse to load new messages

[olive ravine]

Guys, why am I constantly broke?

[jaunty vault]

idk what else to say except ||skill issue||

[random eagle]

too much grind

[olive ravine]

Thanks. I feared as much.

[turbid shell]

is there any good fleet for 1shot Jintsuu META which consist of 3 CV?

[cobalt gate]

you have 4 hmav at least?

[turbid shell]

what is hmav?

[cobalt gate]

well i misspelled

[light trail]

real question, does raffaello gain any secret buff if i put the pizza shell gear skin on her main guns

[turbid shell]

i only have 2 HVAR

[stark quiver]

skyraiders ,la9, 109g
1shot jim requires very high investment

[light trail]

ok, kinda sad that's not a thing tho lol. ty

[cobalt gate]

and accuracy tech

btw is there a link to excel for ship tier list

[turbid shell]

Implacable always work for 1shot team?

[boreal temple]

the only excel tier list I remember is the w15 tier list by suchi

[cobalt gate]

i remember can toggle for w14 as well

so yeah that one

here is my 1 shot

[boreal temple]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=803392514#gid=803392514

[cobalt gate]

thanks

[latent pelican]

Hey guys, on 14-1, right now, my unicorn is pretty badly geared and I have the mats to finally gear her, would something like this be alright?

[turbid shell]

ok thank you, i'll try work my fleet

[boreal temple]

swap out one of the catapults for the asw aux then it looks good enuff

[latent pelican]

Thanks! Just wanted to make sure, so i dont waste opsi mats 😅

[boreal temple]

you can buy the aux on core data iirc you don't need opsi mats on that

[cobalt gate]

i mean only starting from 14-3 has subs, so no need for now

[north totem]

whats the priority here?

[cobalt rapids]

the purple asw plane in gearlab is super cheap dont need to throw coredata on it

[cobalt rapids]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[north totem]

so plane?

[boreal temple]

ah mb I forgot about that

[boreal temple]

if you have 3 champy already then yes tenrai is good

[north totem]

what is champy

[cobalt rapids]

[wind hazel]

yamato gun best bb gun

[north totem]

oh i have 3 alrdy

that champy gun

[cobalt rapids]

2-3 406/50 ( red bordered gun on row 1 ) + 1-0 flandre gun ( the green bordered gun on row 1)
into 1 tenrai (till 2-3 in depot ) > 1 plygun ( till 1-2 in depot ) > 1 457 ( till 1-2 in depot ) > other rainbow >= other situational gear
dont buy rainbow prints if u cannot craft the gear

if u skipped pr 4 then add 2-3 saiuns before plyguns to the list aswell

[boreal temple]

wait did daisen gun dethrone the ijn gun (forgot the name)

[cobalt rapids]

just keep in mind most of these are gearlabable so they go hand in hand

[cobalt gate]

for musashi mobbing i think its still the purple gun

[cobalt rapids]

for musashi mobbing its similar to purple
for med/hvy bossing its usually better because of better sync +faster, because its gun + shell vs izum + loader for 4 strike in meta but otherwise if u have +13 izumo just use that and use loader when needed

[boreal temple]

umi still teaching me shit from when I started playing until now

never ending tomato emotes from suchi

[light trail]

what's daisen gun and whats the other gun being referred to?

[cobalt rapids]

left is izumo gun (pr1 gun) right is daisen gun(pr7 gun)

[light trail]

oh shit i have way more than enough prints, should i just craft it and start putting it on musashi right away lol

ok simpler question, is it just straight up better

[zenith pebble]

i thought for musashi the purple twin 410 was best

[cobalt rapids]

dont think it needs to be mentioned but neither izumo gun or daisen gun should be used for light bossing

[zenith pebble]

whats the 410 for? skill proc?

[cobalt rapids]

and when i say mobbing i meant late campaign mobbing
if ure mobbing somewhere pre w14 juse use purple gun

[light trail]

if my izumo gun is just +10 should i just use daisen gun over it since it's 1.3s faster

[zenith pebble]

rainbow 406?

[cobalt rapids]

ok shelling and high uptime which is ideal in mobbing scenarios
its also sakura

[cobalt rapids]

yea then use daisen gun when applicable

[light trail]

gotcha

[elfin hollow]

Where's the bulin clue at chapter 2-4

[boreal temple]

inside the stage

[sinful escarp]

just go in and take it, even if you retire it will still be taken

[vestal yoke]

what should I do with combat data packs?

[wind hazel]

analyze them into protocore

[vestal yoke]

and then what do I with that?

[boreal temple]

how much gold plates do I need to +13 gold gear again?

[frozen solstice]

What could I get rid of?

[boreal temple]

thread pls

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[frozen solstice]

Is that what this was about?

[boreal temple]

sending a ton of pics like that is unnecessary cluter which you can prevent by making a thread and sending the pics there instead

[vestal yoke]

what's worth buying in the protoshop?

[boreal temple]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[frozen solstice]

Now, I will know. Apply next time

[marsh sparrow]

i need some priority suggestion

which ships need to be max first

[boreal temple]

do you have other URs?

[atomic abyss]

Need to see all other URs
Max limit broken and otherwise

[marsh sparrow]

my other UR are maxed lmb,only need to take time for leveling

[atomic abyss]

Before we can make a recommendation

Soyuz without question

[marsh sparrow]

alr,thx

[vestal yoke]

should I get any of the SR CLs or U-96 from the medal shop?

[boreal temple]

sandy and sirius are both good choices depending on how new you are sandy seems to be the best one

[dreamy blade]

sandy or sirius if you dont have them, u96 is good for wolfpack

[boreal temple]

you need other u boats and tbh you don't necessarily need subs yet so you can skip that for now

[normal cedar]

what is trp? Any tips to get around hard mode trp>800 condition? I only have 1 fleet

[boreal temple]

get dds

[dreamy blade]

torpedo stat, DDs tend to have more of it

if you are just a little bit short you can equip the purple oxy torp aux on someone

[normal cedar]

I am short by 400

[boreal temple]

can you show us your fleet

bringing 2 dds and oxy torp should more or else be enough no?

[dreamy blade]

have to drop helena for a dd

[normal cedar]

ok, ill try that

[hollow gust]

[dreamy blade]

ideally youd replace portland since she has 0 trp but im assuming you dont have another tank you could use

[hollow gust]

Just fill the 2nd fleet with trash

[dreamy blade]

might bring down the avg level too much but yeah could do that too

[boreal temple]

so true why did we not think of that

[normal cedar]

i cant put more dds in fleet 1 and putting 2 nd fleet still falls short of trp by 200 and average level as well

6-4 hard

[hollow gust]

You will still be bringing down the average level areas by dropping Helena 1st fleet

Just run DDs fleet 2 but don't use the fleet

[dreamy blade]

you can use those ships in fleet 2

you dont have to use fleet 1, unless you dont have a bc like hood

your fleet 2 can be just 1 cv and 2 dds that are highest level to try to meet the requirement

you dont have to put a CA, as long as you have a dd there

[normal cedar]

i think im cooked

[crimson glacier]

if you didnt level any ships with torps then yeah

[normal cedar]

I don't have any other dds than laffey that are leveled up

[wind hazel]

do you have shigure or kagerou laying around

[crimson glacier]

then you will do that stage later

[dreamy blade]

this is a pretty common issue for newer players

[normal cedar]

yes

[wind hazel]

put them in

[dreamy blade]

you can sort your dock by trp stat also

[wind hazel]

see how much missing, but they are better than juno

or whoever pink hair anime girl that is...

[dreamy blade]

that is indeed juno

some BCs like gnei/scharn have trp stat too

[rancid mural]

Which of these are the best

[normal cedar]

tried all highest trp still doesnt go to 800
if I dont clear 6-4 hard, I cant finish unicorn last retrofit node

[crimson glacier]

like i said you wont do it now

[dreamy blade]

just do 5-4h for now then

[normal cedar]

does it even drop t3 prints

[dreamy blade]

and pray for rng drop and/or guild shop reset tomorrow

[crimson glacier]

yes

[dreamy blade]

every chapter after 3 can drop gold retro prints

[zenith pebble]

Depends on what ship and what youre close to in gear shop

Isnt this arbiter heal herself

How i defeat something thats basically immortal

[sinful escarp]

more dmg

[zenith pebble]

My gear is shit and i only have so many ships

Touching grass sucks, i advise against it

[sinful escarp]

aside from proper gear, fleet building and skill levels there is nothing else

thats why i say to make 1 mob fleet and 3 boss fleets. always good to have a strong back up incase you cant one shot harbiter

[zenith pebble]

3 crossfleet, 1 nuke

[tame jungle]

but what if the nuke isn't enough

[zenith pebble]

Uhhhhhhhhh

[tame jungle]

what if you had 3 big bombs instead

[zenith pebble]

Pray lmao

[tame jungle]

because with 3 big bombs you don't need to finish it in one go, you get 3 chances to do the amount of damage you need

[zenith pebble]

3 nukes

[hollow gust]

You can make 2-3 good fleet , 3 crossfleets is useless as fuck

[zenith pebble]

Ok but in seriousness, ill probably build up another fleet and tweak things next month

[tame jungle]

it's literally april 3rd

[sinful escarp]

you can tweak them rn you still have 27 days

[zenith pebble]

I just hope the arbiter doesn’t heal. Skills and levelings plus more and better gear

[tame jungle]

maybe bringing more than 1 fleet will help

[zenith pebble]

Theres still quite a few ships i still need to skill up

[hollow gust]

Arbiters don't have healing skills , every single arbiter have set skills every month

[atomic abyss]

And for normal arbiters
You can come back with as many heals as you want

[sinful escarp]

that zombie harbiter is the reason that i actually built good fleets in opsi instead of random ones

[atomic abyss]

You can go out, heal, come back
Attack
Go out again, heal, come back again, attack

[hollow gust]

There's no zombie harbiter

[sinful escarp]

? the one that heals when hp gets low enough?

[zenith pebble]

I wanna be good like yall so i can one shot too

[atomic abyss]

Dude

You're months away from that

Even I don't one shot arbiter consistently

[zenith pebble]

I can still hope

[dreamy blade]

thats being generous, i cant 1shot normal arbiter after 5 months of playing

[atomic abyss]

No forget coping

It's just a silly expectation

[hollow gust]

Hard arbiter? No?

[tame jungle]

i can't 1 shot harbiters either with a 2019 account (i took a 4 year break)

[atomic abyss]

This game is a marathon

[zenith pebble]

I think it’s harbinger?

[atomic abyss]

This month we're what
Light arbiter?

[sinful escarp]

yeah light iirc

[atomic abyss]

Isn't that the hardest one to one shot lol

[tame jungle]

temperance yea

[atomic abyss]

At least, I remember it being the hardest one

[hollow gust]

April is easy as fuck

[atomic abyss]

Goose shush

You're the worst possible yard stick for comparison

[hollow gust]

Tf you mean shush? It's one of the easiest to oneshot

[zenith pebble]

._.

[sinful escarp]

welp guess my memory is dumb
i stopped looking at what arbiter it is every month when i made 3 boss fleets.

i dont see a point in minmaxing to one shot it if the rewards are the same

[hollow gust]

It has no skill that forces you to work around special timing

[atomic abyss]

Anyways avis

[zenith pebble]

Hermit is the one that heals

[atomic abyss]

The point is, you're nowhere close to 1 shotting arbiter

And trying to aim for that at this point, is just silly

[hollow gust]

None of them heal

[atomic abyss]

You do not gain anything from 1 shotting arbiter instead of 2 shotting

[tame jungle]

if you 1 shot harbiter you get to eat lunch at the cool kids' table

[zenith pebble]

Healing Siphon

[hollow gust]

Why are you healing your fleet?

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't call anti heal as healing...

[hollow gust]

That skill is useless as fuck for harby

[atomic abyss]

Anyways not the point here

[hollow gust]

The only existing healing is toolbox , and that's like 1000hp the whole fight .

And that's not a healing skill, actual healing skills comes from abyssal

[atomic abyss]

The point is, why are you trying to 1 shot arbiter?

[zenith pebble]

To be cool

[atomic abyss]

Abyssals are harder than n.arbiter

[hollow gust]

That's just not true

[atomic abyss]

It is true

Because with n.arbiter you can just leave and heal and attack again

And return to try again

With abyssals you can't do that

[hollow gust]

Abyssals are noob traps , you can oneshot those things with mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

[hollow gust]

Once you get even a usable fleet fleet you win

[atomic abyss]

No goose, the average player is not doing that

[hollow gust]

My lil e account have been cleaning out abyssals , anyone with a competent fleet will be killing thek

[zenith pebble]

Give me a year to prepare

[atomic abyss]

Goose, you're a min maxer

Not the average player

[hollow gust]

I'm using hood and enty

[zenith pebble]

Fleet check?

[atomic abyss]

So what if you are?
You know what's the best gear
You know the best strats
You probably also already farmed some tech already

I've told you loads of times goose
You're not a good example for a new player

[hollow gust]

Anyone with a competent fleet should be killing them

[atomic abyss]

And most people won't even have that

Because they're fumbling to even understand the game

[zenith pebble]

Wait does homie manual?

[boreal wagon]

the point was that even when you dont have a competent fleet you can defeat normal arbiter by just cheesing the heal mechanic, which you cant do with abyssal

[atomic abyss]

^

[zenith pebble]

I think with arbiter ive healer 12 times?

[atomic abyss]

Firstly

Why are you even trying arbiter now

When you won't have adapts

[zenith pebble]

No idea what those are

[atomic abyss]

So you were trying to 1 shot arbiter
Without even understanding the fundamental mechanics of operation siren

[zenith pebble]

I also changed plans and decided to do arbiter tonight since im off yomotrow

[atomic abyss]

No
Forget tomorrow

[zenith pebble]

Yep

[atomic abyss]

First, let me explain what are adapts

[atomic abyss]

Or there's that

Basically, you're fighting a buffed boss

[zenith pebble]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

How you get adapts?
By exploring all the areas in operation siren

[zenith pebble]

Oh yeah i did all 72 zones

[atomic abyss]

Are your adapts at 203/203/156?

[zenith pebble]

Lemme check, should be on the right side when i look at world right?

[boreal wagon]

that or top left when in a zone

[zenith pebble]

Theyre 131,119,117

[boreal wagon]

if you are below 203/203/156 dont even think about arbiter
get more adapts first

[atomic abyss]

Then your boss is buffed

And your poor fleets are not helping

[zenith pebble]

What must i do?

[atomic abyss]

Do your daily missions

Buy the adapts in the port shops

[wind hazel]

if you have patience then don't even need to buy adapts

[zenith pebble]

Oh those tuning samples?

[wind hazel]

just do daily, repeat c3, do everything on last week of the month

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much this

[boreal wagon]

also dont bother going higher than 203/203/156 by intention, it doesnt do anything

[atomic abyss]

For any player new to opsi
I always recommend them not to bother with any difficult stuff till the last week

[zenith pebble]

Oh

[wind hazel]

or be apart of c1 gang

[zenith pebble]

So ive been doing everything backwards

[dreamy blade]

dont even need to farm c3 if you just clear your loggers and dailies

[zenith pebble]

Bet, what c1

[atomic abyss]

Mori pls

C1 is for try hard of the try hards

[boreal wagon]

c1 is basically gambling

[zenith pebble]

I love gambling

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Your goals don't make sense with your actions

[sinful escarp]

why is c1 gambling? ive been seeing that for a while now.

[atomic abyss]

Very few veterans would even bother trying to fight arbiter with minimal adapts

[zenith pebble]

And what is c1

[atomic abyss]

No guaranteed cat

[zenith pebble]

Noobz lmao

[wind hazel]

it's not a 100% success on positive AP

[dreamy blade]

i thought cat nodes dont even spawn below c3

[atomic abyss]

...it's called playing smartly
And not bum rushing a la leeroy jenkins

[boreal wagon]

the point of c1 isnt cat nodes, its akashi spawns to gain positive AP

[dreamy blade]

oh that cat

[zenith pebble]

[boreal wagon]

but the return is not guaranteed especially if you half ass it

[sinful escarp]

ahhh i see now

[atomic abyss]

I'm saying you're the bum rusher here btw

There's nothing wrong in wanting to "look cool" and 1 shot arbiters

[sinful escarp]

btw, i have cleared more than half of the zone, and i still havent gotten akashi to show up.
yes i have the option of stopping for her on

[atomic abyss]

But at the very least, you should be finding out what steps to take

To clear that goal

[zenith pebble]

Yeah i understand now, thx for info

Whaat do i do with energy storage things?

[sinful escarp]

those are just to unlock some boxes in opsi. if you have auto search on it should automatically use them to open them

[zenith pebble]

And those boxes are worth?

[sinful escarp]

there is no other use for the energy storage so yeah

[zenith pebble]

Oh yeah, are r6 sirens difficult for normal or people who just started opsi?

[sinful escarp]

might as well try to clear it if you can

[boreal wagon]

all abyssals eventually become mostly trivial

[zenith pebble]

I bought r5 and have yet to touch it so

[boreal wagon]

but you get rewards even if you don't kill them so its worth a shot

[zenith pebble]

Oh those are abyssals

Damn

[boreal wagon]

they can also be hidden zones but those arent exactly hard

[dreamy blade]

abyssals are the siren loggers

[boreal wagon]

depends on the color of the logger (not the rarity background)
(siren vs coordinate in the name also works)

[zenith pebble]

Red

[boreal wagon]

then its abyssal yes

[sinful escarp]

what are the red swirly things called? i always forget what they are called

[boreal wagon]

stronghold

[zenith pebble]

And do all mission loggers drop ur ? Or did i just get lucky

[dreamy blade]

the ones from the voucher shop?

those have set guaranteed rewards

[boreal wagon]

classified loggers all have the same guaranteed drops

[zenith pebble]

And they reset every month right

[boreal wagon]

they are one time

[dreamy blade]

one time purchases

[zenith pebble]

Might as well do them tonight

[boreal wagon]

classified loggers are essentially a "catch up" mechanic

[zenith pebble]

Ooo

I can get two wyverns this month?? Hell yeah

[slow fox]

Are there ship skills that reduce damage taken by sirens? I think I have some in eHP, but I forgot what they're for/who they're for

[dreamy blade]

hipper meta has 1

[slow fox]

Interestingly enough, I don't have that one marked down

[zenith pebble]

What does ehp mean? I see it all over the place

[dreamy blade]

effective hp

so how tanky a ship is (compared to portland in this case)

[zenith pebble]

New player explanation plz

[sinful escarp]

think of it as the estimated hp with all stats, and skills, compared to portland

[zenith pebble]

So its legit just defense and health and armor combined with math?

[slow fox]

Math from skills

[zenith pebble]

Ohhhhh so ships that are just tankier than portland

[boreal wagon]

mebot certified math

[zenith pebble]

And russian pr cat is best tank?

[slow fox]

Ships can also be not tankier than portland. It's just the math that calculates tankiness.

[boreal wagon]

we only really concern ourselves with ehp of frontliners

[sinful escarp]

its more to see who are tankier than portland, since portland is an extremely good baseline to see it

[storm heron]

best tank is musashi

[zenith pebble]

Ah i see

I love math but whats the equation

[slow fox]

Okay, I'm going to give you leading questions. Ready?

[crimson marsh]

this a good AVP build?

[zenith pebble]

Perchance

[slow fox]

If I have a fair dice, how many times would I need to roll the dice to get 100 "six" rolls?

[zenith pebble]

Maximum 600?

[slow fox]

Average 600. Good job.

If I have a shipgirl with 100 HP, how much damage an enemy with a 1/6 chance of dealing damage need to do to kill her?

[storm heron]

depends

[atomic abyss]

No, there's no German plane

[zenith pebble]

I think 600 times?

[crimson marsh]

which ones should i use?

[slow fox]

Average 600 times. Good job.

Or, 600 damage, however much by the distribution of the enemy bullets is.

[atomic abyss]

The Ju-87 D-4 torp bomber from gear lab
You can also use the BF-109G fighter if in operation siren

[crimson marsh]

oke thank youp

[slow fox]

That's the most basic line for eHP theory. Now you can read. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Effective_HP

[zenith pebble]

Yippee!

[slow fox]

Of course, if you have any questions at all regarding any eHP thing, you can always ping me.

[zenith pebble]

What the hell did i just read

[boreal wagon]

math

[slow fox]

It's math. It all comes down to figuring out two values:

What's the ship's HP?

What's the chance the enemy damages her?

[zenith pebble]

I see

How would i find out the chances of siren hitting my ship

[boreal wagon]

and any applicable reductions or other complications for more advancedness

[dreamy blade]

it all comes down to 1 thing

[slow fox]

That's this bad boy

[zenith pebble]

Sort of wish there was a baseline

[zenith pebble]

And these are all based on my ships?

[slow fox]

Yes. And enemy ships. Attacker.

[zenith pebble]

And all that information is displayed on wiki, but how did we get the stats?

[stone sluice]

Sorry to ask (I feel sleepy ) but what’s the point of spamming Akashi for AP if you don’t get cat nodes.
I thought the C1, C3, C5 things were cat nodes since I thought is where you grind the stuff from

[slow fox]

Ally stats, or enemy stats?

[boreal wagon]

you spam c1 to get a net positive AP to then spam C3 or C5

[zenith pebble]

Enemy. Ally i can just look in my dock

[slow fox]

Enemy stats are given to us by the dataminers

Will all dataminers please stand

[zenith pebble]

Wait the people that go into the code?

[slow fox]

Yeah.

[zenith pebble]

I should learn how to do that

[boreal wagon]

You dont need to:
https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[zenith pebble]

It could be a useful skill to have one day

[slow fox]

In my experience of apprenticing the dataminers, you need a billion tons of python

[zenith pebble]

What is target accuracy

[slow fox]

-# datamining in fortran

[slow fox]

WAIT THIS IS LEGENDARY.

-# I know LarsDB has stuff, but I never really connected the dots. I've been looking for OpSi intruder for 4 years now, and it's just on your DB. Delusional

[atomic abyss]

Are you trying to get them all banned or something

[slow fox]

Your ships have a HIT value.

Enemy ships have a HIT value.

[zenith pebble]

Didnt know it was a bad thing, ima shut up

[boreal wagon]

-# to be fair it didnt have intruder from strongholds until like a month ago

[atomic abyss]

It's more of a open secret

Officially it's against ToS

[slow fox]

-# How did they do it beforehand then

[atomic abyss]

The staff have just previously closed eyes so

That's how it is

[zenith pebble]

Because were alp good children yes

Where do i see hit value

[slow fox]

In LarsDB, you can click on the enemy icon to see their stats - including HIT.

[zenith pebble]

Oh, the hit box?

[boreal wagon]

no the lil icon that looks like a reticle

[slow fox]

(open https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses )

[boreal wagon]

u can also hover the icons and it tells you exactly what stat it is + a brief explanation

[zenith pebble]

Accuracy

[slow fox]

Yes, accuracy.

[boreal wagon]

Accuracy, ACC and HIT are all the same concept
just 3 different words

[zenith pebble]

Oh

Target accuracy is enemy accuracy

What about the second part of the equation for eho

[slow fox]

The divsion part, or the one with the scary bracket-like symbols?

[zenith pebble]

Preferred all if possible

[slow fox]

TargetAccuracy is the HitRate calcualtion from above.

AttackerHP is our shipgirl's HP pool.

And then the scary-looking thing is just total damage resistance.

[zenith pebble]

So literally 1+ my ship resistance x 1

And itll most likely be a decimal

[slow fox]

That depends on your ship's resistance, but yes. And it's 1 - .

[zenith pebble]

1-? The wiki says 1+

[boreal wagon]

well the wiki says 1 + because it treats reductions as negative decimals

[slow fox]

Yeah, that.

[boreal wagon]

1 + (-0.25) is the same as 1 - 0.25

[zenith pebble]

Oh

Should i be concerned a out that “i”?

[slow fox]

You should not.

[zenith pebble]

Does it have any meaning?

[boreal wagon]

do you know what a product sign is

[zenith pebble]

Nope

[slow fox]

The "i" has to do with the big symbol. Together, they mean to take the total contribution from the different damage reistances that you might see.

[boreal wagon]

it basically in short means multiply all reductions i.E. (1 - reduction) together

its a shorter way of writting (1 - reduction1) * (1 - reduction2) * ... * (1 - reductionN)

[zenith pebble]

Oh i see

[jaunty vault]

chat what is 1-1

[zenith pebble]

Peace

[left cedar]

a almost useless tatict to waste ur time to get affinity faster, instead of invest time and oil into something like 12-1 lvl a entire fleet and get true rewards
or
a even stupid thing to continiously do nothing in exchange of a dream to get comms

[boreal wagon]

i think coopy was making a math joke

[left cedar]

yeah, i know he is here for considerable time, but ... ghost that know the legendery magic of read, can watch it and try it

[atomic abyss]

What are you waffling about

[zenith pebble]

I want waffles now

[storm heron]

[zenith pebble]

Someone give me oil

I have 3k left

[slow fox]

I am once again asking for your help

[boreal wagon]

specifically only from the siren nation or the "in operation siren" ones?

[slow fox]

I think there are ones that aren't the "in operation siren" and more like "if against sirens" or something

[random eagle]

idk if this is a dumb question but how does operation siren materials for gear lab work? is it just purely rng or is there a way to tell where to grind for certain things

[boreal wagon]

there is anti siren tactics from: NY City Coast Recon Report, Intel Report - Arctic Stronghold and Intel Report - Expedition Log (they are all the same skill)
(these are equips tho, not ships, i dont see a single ship specifically reducing from "siren nation")

there are quite a few ones that reduce damage taken if sortied against a siren boss in opsi (the META ship thing) but thats just universal

[atomic abyss]

Rng and shop

[random eagle]

alrighty thanks

[normal cedar]

is it fine if affinity drops a bit for ships at affinity 100? since they will recover it again due to winning anyways

later

[atomic abyss]

You get exp penalties if your affinity drops too far sooo

At that point what's the use in grinding

[normal cedar]

upto 90 is fine? when does the penalty start

[slow fox]

Ok thank. I think I'm being gaslit by Hatakaze META

[boreal wagon]

yeah she reduces universal damage taken when defending nation is META and attacking map type is opsi boss
(at least the way the text reads i didnt verify further than it being universal)
(apparently it only applies to herself not all META ships)

[atomic abyss]

The moment your morale hits 0, you get the penalties

[hoary relic]

should i raise and retro any DDGs as im lacking of DDs rn

[atomic abyss]

So if you're already losing affinity

You get the penalties

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[hoary relic]

who should i raise? an shan or fu shun

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan is the best
Unless you already have Fus Shun's retro item from lunar New year event

[hoary relic]

oh

[normal cedar]

oh ok got it, thanks!

[atomic abyss]

If you have fushun's item
Just raise fushun first

If you have none of them
Tai Yuan

Since you can buy her item for spec core

[hoary relic]

i gues i'd go for fu shun as i dont have tai yuan rn

[atomic abyss]

Isn't Tai Yuan in guild shop

[hoary relic]

yes, so should i buy her?

[atomic abyss]

I mean do you have Fu Shun's retro item from this year's Lunar New Year event?

[hoary relic]

i do

[atomic abyss]

Then go for Fu Shun first

[hoary relic]

and the sy 1a missile also

[atomic abyss]

You may want to get Tai Yuan too anyways
The retro item can come later when you have more resources

[hoary relic]

aint her retro item is in proto shop?

[atomic abyss]

Spec core

Not protocore

A quarter of a UR bulin's cost

[hoary relic]

ik but isnt the shop name's is proto?

[atomic abyss]

It is
But point is specialised core is in extremely high demand for new players...

2 currency is used in that shop
Protocore and specialised core

UR bulins, and retrofit items all cost specialised core

[hoary relic]

i guess i'd for fu shun first as i need spec core for ur bulins for bis zwei in May

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

[normal cedar]

is zwei really going to be in may? i thought the rerun will be after cn anniv..

[hoary relic]

in case i raise fu shun, is it compulsory to buy the seal of four gods?

[brazen oracle]

I've run out of purple tokens in OPS and wanna buy more T4 upgrade parts

But completing a stage only gives 1 or 2, which isn't enough.
What now?

[hoary relic]

strongholds for those tokens

u can get like 500-600 per stronghold

[atomic abyss]

After CN anniversary yeah

I mean you still need the URins for the CN anniversary UR so

[atomic abyss]

Clear all the maps
Do more daily missions
You can buy the purple tokens with the normal opsi currency

[hoary relic]

anyways, when should i invest in sub?

[paper walrus]

does the ^ in front of AP mean anything here?

[hoary relic]

it means which shell type that gun using

[paper walrus]

also is it normal than an AP gun is the upgraded version of an HE gun

[hoary relic]

hard to say , u need to check its properities actually

[hoary relic]

like this for example, look at the armor mod, it says 100-160-50

that's mean this gun deals 100% to light armor enemies 160% to med armor and 50% for heavy armor

[paper walrus]

no i meant that it feels weird to me that it changed ammo type

[hoary relic]

wdym? champy gun fires AP rounds and that havent changed

[hoary relic]

u mean the "shelling" word?

[paper walrus]

in the gear lab it shows that its an upgrade of the quad 380 which is HE

[brazen oracle]

Where to find said strongholds

and how hard are they?

[hoary relic]

the red spirals on ur map, i'd it is pretty hard u need full 6 lv120 shipgirls to beat it

but since u can leave and heal in any ports nearby, it isnt that hard just abit time-consuming

but if u r unlucky, u would meet the boss with healing perk which would cause more pain

[hoary relic]

i dont think it is a real problem since that quad 380mm is sucks and only for jean bart

[paper walrus]

oh not a problem i just found it strange

tho i have only one and its on her, i dont use her anymore though

[atomic abyss]

No not true at all

The second best HE BB gun is purple

The best is a rainbow

[atomic abyss]

They are the red swirly things (not in the middle) in opsi maps

[hoary relic]

the 410mm kai right?

[wind hazel]

no...

[hoary relic]

mk6?

[woven star]

406 mk6 purple

[wind hazel]

yes

[dreamy blade]

there are 5 bosses which can be a bit tough but you can also just leave to heal at a port then come back

[hoary relic]

well i use 410mm kai for mobbing and mk6 for boss

[woven star]

Or rainbow mk7 406 for light and med

[hoary relic]

we can use raff gun for med

[tame jungle]

except you need to have raff gun

champagne gun and mk7 are permanently available

[hoary relic]

mk7 is expensive as hell for me

[tame jungle]

but it's not event locked

[hoary relic]

ye but it is really expensive

especially for newbies like me

[tame jungle]

well then use mk6

[woven star]

410 Kai is often gun for Musashi mob fleet. I know some ppl use 406 SK C/34. Or 381 but not sure how they better

Usually mk6 for almost all content

[hoary relic]

isnt that fdg gun only gives extra 20 FP while its dmg base reload time are only slightly(tiny tbh) than 410 kai

[atomic abyss]

Also more expensive to get

[hoary relic]

true

6 T2 testing rp eh, too expensive

[woven star]

It's just upgrade version of Kai with little bit lower cd, higher dps and some more fp stats

[tame jungle]

fdg gun is a sidegrade at best, but it's fine to use if you already have it from research back in the day. not cost-effective when you can get 410kai for cheaper
british 381 is fucking cope

[hoary relic]

i'd say that only faster than 0.03s compared to 410 kai

[tame jungle]

wrong

[hoary relic]

🤔

[worldly pewter]

yeah i saw it as ap+ in some places and tbh i don't know what it means in general most likely it is only for BBs

[tame jungle]

base rld 19.42 vs 19.97 so it's closer to like 0.2 or 0.3 seconds i think

[plain saffron]

everytime there's AP ammo with different mods, wiki add new AP type, AP^, AP* etc

[dreamy blade]

there is also AP4 and APMKD

[brazen oracle]

Oki

[plain saffron]

i believe wiki doesn't do that anymore now

[hoary relic]

ye right...

[tame jungle]

not that it's relevant, for battleship guns you'd rather have damage than reload

[woven star]

Near 0.4-0.5 sec avg.

[paper walrus]

what 😭

[hoary relic]

idk, for some bbs that have good barrage like raff, faster load still better

[tame jungle]

that's the age-old cope for 381

[dreamy blade]

and the 380 skc/34

[hoary relic]

that gun is...........uh kinda bad

[dreamy blade]

yes just like the 381

[hoary relic]

its base dmg is so low eh

[woven star]

I don't like 381. Have best cdr but way more bad dps

[hoary relic]

the only thing it can do is help ur bb trigger her barrage faster

380 skc/34 is sucks at shelling tbh

[tame jungle]

it's a great gun if your goal is gimping your damage

[woven star]

Maybe for 3 asynchrons bb shells... 381, fdg, Kai... idk. Some kind fast barrage mob fleet

[hoary relic]

ye true

[dreamy blade]

cooked

[tame jungle]

for any content that matters you're not using triple bb mob fleet though

[hoary relic]

but tbh kai 410mm still better than 380mm skc 43

380mm skc 34 base dmg is too low bruh

[wind hazel]

tf is 380 skc34

[tame jungle]

it's the cope gun

[woven star]

380mm skc 43 ap gun...no

[tame jungle]

this?

[hoary relic]

thought no one use that gun

[tame jungle]

or god forbid this one

[woven star]

we talk about. at least I

[wind hazel]

[tame jungle]

none of those are 380mm skc

[hoary relic]

ah isnt that hood's gun?

right?

the 380mm

[tame jungle]

british 381 yes

[woven star]

maybe Howe

[tame jungle]

historically hood turrets iirc

[woven star]

not an expert. so agree

[hoary relic]

uhh i dont think howe uses 380mm guns she uses 356mm

[atomic abyss]

None of the 380s are relevant

[tame jungle]

elegant

[hoary relic]

[atomic abyss]

They're not elegant either

[woven star]

yeah small gun for big BBs. Elegant guns for big BBs are only big guns

[nocturne glade]

What does damage modifier level do? I get that it increases damage but I don't see any specific numbers in game

[patent pivot]

game doesnt tell you, just check wiki

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[plain saffron]

EN game doesn't tell you, CN does

[tame jungle]

well, are they using CN game?

[plain saffron]

no?

[tame jungle]

then the game doesn't tell them does it

[plain saffron]

welp i guess more info aren't allowed in gph anymore

[wary hawk]

Please limit your info

[plain saffron]

my bad 😔 i won't share more info anymore

[patent pivot]

smh my head

[zinc hornet]

is there a rerun schedule? confirmed or speculative

[forest palm]

best you can do is look at an event history list, and use that for speculative reruns

[zinc hornet]

thought so, ty for confirming

[eternal basalt]

All we know for reruns right now is next week Little Formi rerun

[zinc hornet]

so would it be reasonable to expect bismarck zwei in a month or two?

[forest palm]

could be this month, but the back end of May is going to be a New UR

[eternal basalt]

June or July

[zinc hornet]

another one??

[eternal basalt]

~~Maybe 2 ~~

[unborn laurel]

What is this last item I am missing:

[forest palm]

there's been 4 new URs per year in Mid Feb, Late May, Mid Sept, Late Dec

[zinc hornet]

man my cube stockpile is falling

[eternal basalt]

*6 last year

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/dorm3d/collectible?sortType=class

[forest palm]

BZ can show up late this month or early next month, or some time in July

[eternal basalt]

Late this month is a new event

[forest palm]

is there anything to actually corroborate that?

[eternal basalt]

The schedule of 12 events per year? 1 per month?

[forest palm]

the hospital event would count for that

[wind hazel]

maybe wait for announcements instead of throwing darts on the board

[eternal basalt]

That's March event

[forest palm]

anyway it's speculative so meh

[eternal basalt]

It would have to fit 17-23, we'll see, I doubt it with CN Anni on the way and Implacc in recent past

[oak girder]

How much exp needed for lvl 100-120?

[undone plover]

2115000

[oak girder]

Thx

[eternal basalt]

Aprill events. 2022: Rondo at Rainbow's End. 2023: DoA rerun. 2024: Polaris 3.0. 2025: ???

[rustic osprey]

Guys mb iam fucking up somewhere here. Iam using implacable, amagi cv and shinano to battle meta hornet and my fleet is doing like super bad

Can anyone advice me on the gears

Should I replace implacable with someone else

[soft raft]

first off, what gear are they running rn

[rustic osprey]

I know it's fucked up. Just came up with that after my failure

Also I only have 1 hvar and f-109g

[last zenith]

hmmmmmmmm

[little tree]

Implace isn't level 120 or maxed on skills

[rustic osprey]

I forgot

Let's not talk about her. Who should I replace her with

This is all what I have. I also have hakuu but she's no dev 30 yet

[wind hazel]

cursed set up

[rustic osprey]

So I should try this?

[wind hazel]

im not sure if eldridge slow is enough but you can try that, use fritz instead and cope for 2shot

[rustic osprey]

Fritz instead of implacable right. Gotcha

[wind hazel]

im not responsible for anything 🏃🏼‍➡️

[rustic osprey]

Lemme try it

Wait, It just came to mind. I only got 1 saikun

[tawdry halo]

Hi, may I get some help for a depot clean up?

I just need to know what is trash and what is not

[wind hazel]

keep

lazy do for purple, just put on unused ships

[rustic osprey]

Also keep that ar197

I think it was useful for building some nice plane

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[tawdry halo]

Is there anyway to delete augment chat?

[tame jungle]

you can use augments as fodder for other augments

[jaunty vault]

only unequipped augments can be used as fodder

[tawdry halo]

Is this going to be worth it

Are my gears alr?

[sinful escarp]

good enough budget

or if you have a roomba she can have that instead

[tawdry halo]

Roomba?

[tawdry halo]

I only have the purple ver of that

[sinful escarp]

just keep what you have on her now then

for the gun though do you have this?

[tawdry halo]

Once again purple ver

Any augment to be put on Portland?

[sinful escarp]

you can skip her augment for now tbh

[tawdry halo]

Ight

Worth for Enterprise or not?

[hoary relic]

not recommened to craft any for her cuz u will soon replace her with roon and ancho later on

[hoary relic]

yes sure is

[tawdry halo]

Which would take a really long time

[hoary relic]

not for roon

[tawdry halo]

I'm on day 27 rn

[hoary relic]

i'd say it isnt that long if u picked Z23 as ur first DD

[sinful escarp]

tbh you can make a greatsword rn and just give it to the CA you will be replacing portland with

[hoary relic]

but that greatsword aint that expensive so u can craft it anyways

[tawdry halo]

Yes

[wheat ore]

have you spent any money on this account, just wondering if this is achieveable for f2p

[hoary relic]

no need to spend, just need to play for a very very long time

[sinful escarp]

but tbh, its better to make the unique augments of the ships you are using first rather than those augments

[wheat ore]

what is a realistic dock size for f2p players?

[hoary relic]

that will be very expensive for 27d newbie like him

since he doesnt have augment module cores to craft unique augments

[tawdry halo]

I dont think I really have any good CAs to replace Portland as a tanker

[tawdry halo]

I crafted my first one

And I'm drained, thank you San Diego 😭

[hoary relic]

u dont raise helena?

[tawdry halo]

I'm raising her slowly

[hoary relic]

sandy is good, worthy to do it

[sinful escarp]

yeah you dont, tbh the ones that will replace portland are the late game tanks like anchorage

[soft raft]

depends on how long you've been playing but I have like nearly 600 after 4 years

[hoary relic]

helena is compulsory for boss fleet

[tawdry halo]

Just that Helena is a bit too far so it would take a while

[sinful escarp]

also unicorn

[hoary relic]

he has perseus

[sinful escarp]

he has, but retrofited uni is still better

[tawdry halo]

I'm raising and retrofitting Unicorn to replace Perseus

[hoary relic]

aint that perseus is better than uni?

[sinful escarp]

for now, but if they get to the same level unicorn will be better

[tawdry halo]

Unicorn is also draining me A L O T

[hoary relic]

uni is my first shipgirl got to lv 125

[sinful escarp]

just continue with campaign and keep up your daily hard mode runs

[tawdry halo]

I'm softlocked at W8 due to the level requirement

I seriously just wanna ULTRAKILL everything

[hoary relic]

[sinful escarp]

also the daily raids and guild things, dont forget to do those too

[hoary relic]

what augment should i craft for fu shun? the hammer or the dual sword

[tawdry halo]

Coins farm

[sinful escarp]

swords

[hoary relic]

🤔 what is her main dmg from? her primary gun or trp?

oh wait i have both in depot, no need to craft

[frank pulsar]

gun
all ddg main dmg source shld be gun afaik

[hoary relic]

[worldly pewter]

most of the time when i use tai yuan for some reason
with or without the main gun i don't see much a difference no idea why
this established in me that the missile slot was the most impactful

[hollow gust]

[wheat ore]

Did you ever buy skins with gems?

[hollow gust]

If you are f2p you can't afford to

[hollow gust]

Also that makes no sense at all

[soft raft]

No
I only got 3 total slots in dorm, 2nd floor, and fucked up a bit buying a 3rd academy slot and buying gems with cubes once

[hollow gust]

The game eventually becomes unplayable if you aren't dumping your gems into dock

[wheat ore]

what if you don't try to collect everyone? and you get rid of a bunch of the ships

[sinful escarp]

retire some ships after getting them to 120

the ones not used in fleets

[forest palm]

that doesn't work out ultimately

[wheat ore]

is it cuz you need more ships to play the harder end game modes?

[sinful escarp]

its more like ships are being constant added

and among those ships that will be added there is no saying how many of them are going to be very useful

[wheat ore]

yeah i guess that makes sense, I realised that the skins are actually fairly expensive lol

[forest palm]

outfits are ultimately what drives sales in this game

[wheat ore]

i guess maybe if it's your favourite characters it's worth it, but it's still pretty expensive since it's like $17 or something for the more expensive ones. But it's great that you can still progress completely fine without spending money, which is what i heard.

especially for a gacha game

[sinful escarp]

people take advantage of the first time 2x gem purchase

[last zenith]

this is the most ftp gacha game lol.

[sinful escarp]

it is, in a meta perspective. you can retire most of the ships after getting their lvl120 tech

[last zenith]

but for the ship girls we never

[sinful escarp]

and the rng is forgiving as well as the way to get cubes

[wheat ore]

yeah i feel like getting cubes is pretty easy

[honest sequoia]

Do i do dailies in OpSi
or do i clear the whole map first

[last zenith]

its 4 a day

about 12 from weeklies

[wheat ore]

some of the skins is really tempting me to sacrifice dock space or dorm just to get it 😭

[sinful escarp]

do the opsi dailies first

[last zenith]

boing boing too strong

[honest sequoia]

so should i use all my AP boxes or smth

[last zenith]

if u wanna

[sinful escarp]

yep, use those whenever you can clear maps

[honest sequoia]

Alr

[sinful escarp]

after you spend all your AP first btw

[last zenith]

should u xp data packs i have a good few hundred

[sinful escarp]

use up all the AP that you have then use the boxes if you want to do more

[honest stirrup]

Who's "u"

[last zenith]

just general. its a question

[sinful escarp]

might as well. there is a limit to it so no point in letting it stockpile up to the limit

[last zenith]

alr then

[honest stirrup]

Sure. What I find the most efficient is to use them on level 1 ships to instantly get them to level 70 and then start using them in battle

[wheat ore]

is getting the dorm coins supposed to be really hard, I feel like i barely get any and it's taking me ages to get the second floor

[last zenith]

commisions, and if your ships are good they find more

[sinful escarp]

game is a marathon, not a sprint

so lots of things are time gated

[wheat ore]

oh right yeah okay i thought you just have to wait to get the 2 coins occationally from the people in the dorm

[keen sable]

Pushing with xp packs is very inefficient. You need like 300 for 1 level. Especially since you don't have much.

[last zenith]

Al the type of game you log on 3 times a day and grind

[wheat ore]

i see, yeah i don't mind that

[last zenith]

oh i know that. learned that the hard way just for level one ships

[keen sable]

For now 100 packs to get ships you want to use to L70. Or 120 packs for UR/DR.

[last zenith]

kk

[rustic osprey]

Iam f2p

[rustic osprey]

It didn't work 😭

amagi and frinz both hit only 200k

[worldly pewter]

show fritz gear

[worldly pewter]

be glad that she did 200k

[rustic osprey]

I only had 1 saiun which I placed on shinano

Ok I had that feeling

[worldly pewter]

this is for hornet meta right ?

[rustic osprey]

Yes

[worldly pewter]

fritz should have the highest priority to load the anti med gear

usually the best fighters then afterward if u don't have, the best db

[rustic osprey]

So like f-109g and stuff should be on her

[rustic osprey]

What's a nice divebomber

[worldly pewter]

how many do u have ?

[wheat ore]

damn, how long have you been playing?

[rustic osprey]

This is all I have

[rustic osprey]

Almost a year I think

I started a few events before Alsace event

[worldly pewter]

plz can u answer this ?

[wheat ore]

wow that's very surprising

[rustic osprey]

Oh u mean 109? I only have 1

Iam actually short on most of the stuff lol

[worldly pewter]

can u reliably 2 shot the fight or still far from a consistent 650k ?

[rustic osprey]

That isn't sarcasm right. Iam dumb. I don't remember when was Alsace event

I do 700k on her at once

[worldly pewter]

the general idea about how u do a meta fight is
helena and helena requires cv tech if u want to use cv
if u don't have cv tech then u should use BBs

[rustic osprey]

Most dmg from my dds before this setup

Ok. So what's a cv tech

[worldly pewter]

if u were playing from alsace event then u should have at least vanguard and musasi

[rustic osprey]

Yes I have both, but I don't have Alsace

[worldly pewter]

rld tech around 23 i think to fit the 2 first scans

[paper walrus]

Should i buy these

[rustic osprey]

Yes

[rustic osprey]

Lemme check

U mean like those tech points from ships

Only got 9 on cv

Guess we settle down to bbs now

So musashi vanguard and ?

[tribal rose]

Does anyone know the best secondary to equip Raff with?

[sinful escarp]

triple 155 should be fine

[wheat ore]

no i meant like I think it's a lot of progress for 1 year

i only played for like a week so I don't really have the concept of what is realistic

for f2p

[river junco]

P2w doesn’t give you much of an advantage over f2p, just gems to spend on dock slots and cosmetics really

I’m f2p and I have multiple rows of ur gear and nearly all the ur ships maxed

Just play and grind and things will add up

[dusty geyser]

Hello
How can I craft the red one..? Just unlocked the research lab, cannot quite find it...

[river junco]

Gear lab in Sakura empire tab

[dusty geyser]

Yeah, I have it

[sinful escarp]

for the mats for it you need to do opsi, no other ways around it

CL main guns for sakura

[dusty geyser]

WOW, UI sucks

Thanks a lot. Though it's just an image, non clickable.

[hazy kiln]

When I hit 9-1 should I be able to clear it with one fleet? I run out of ammo and can't clear boss

[atomic abyss]

Yes
You're meant to fight the boss with 0 ammo

So the 50% dmg penalty

[hazy kiln]

Ok. So level/retrofit/gear issue then?

[atomic abyss]

Most likely level

[tame jungle]

who's dying? if it's the frontline maybe making sure formation is set to double line could help

[hazy kiln]

I believe I'm on the Eva formation. I'll watch a run

[hollow gust]

Work on that uni retro

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips i think u need to give this a read

[tame jungle]

think he's pretty much following that already, given his fleet

[sinful escarp]

aside from gears and retrofit for uni, portland

[hazy kiln]

Yeah waiting for the last 3 prints

[sinful escarp]

its probably a gear issue

[tulip hollow]

thnx a lot for the help yesterday boys, i was finally able to clear 15-4

guide really helped

[hazy kiln]

For gear in just following the gear guide with what I have. Haven't really enhanced anything. I could have garbage on for all I know

[tropic tusk]

[tropic tusk]

dont be shy n just ask

[hazy kiln]

Can you follow the guide with different rarities? Like the top tier gold guns work at blue etc?

[tropic tusk]

it will be more efficient to jsut show wt u have

[hazy kiln]

Ok give me a few. Making the kids breakfast lol

SS of each ship and then gear?

[tropic tusk]

no worries idk wep its just people here does know it so just post wht u have

[tropic tusk]

if u gonna do that do it in a thread

[sinful escarp]

put it in a thread so it doesnt cover anyone else asking here

[tame jungle]

make a thread if you want, keeps it conveniently in one place

[sinful escarp]

also so the people replying wont have to worry about slowmode

[hazy kiln]

Ok I'll post it in the one I have

[tame jungle]

unfortunately won't be able to help myself but u know

[plain saffron]

like guide says purple mk6 but you have blue mk6? nope, doesn't work

[hazy kiln]

Yeah that's what I was wondering. Thank you

Here's my thread for gear advice

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1355465271300849782

[eager mulch]

[tropic tusk]

does anyone have cm guide for this month? or still too early

[undone plover]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/april
CM doesnt get updated with time
so april 2025 and april 2024 is the same
it is just we have new ships and gear now

[tropic tusk]

oh 3q3q

whos this?

[ivory pawn]

Aurora, an Elite.

[tropic tusk]

ohh ok 3q

wait i suddenly forgot siris is left on formation right?

[hollow gust]

It's labeled 1/2/3

[tropic tusk]

bruh im blind thx

[undone plover]

if u still dont have aurora she might be a good target for the upcoming wishing well in may

she is top support for light armor fights

[rocky tinsel]

Is this gold or this purple gun better?

[hollow gust]

Purple

[rocky tinsel]

kk. Was hoping I could read the equipment guide correctly

worth taking it to +10?

[hollow gust]

There is like one gun that beats the purple one in terms of anti light damage , and that gun is rainbow

[rocky tinsel]

If I'm fighting heavier ships, worth swapping out when needed?

[hoary relic]

same like sb2c helldiver lol

it really shit on all sr bombers

[undone plover]

Yes but not to that gold gun
Get the pr3 gun 1938/50 mle from protocore shop
20 prints per month
Get 50 total for 2 guns

[rocky tinsel]

kk. Ty

[undone plover]

Specifically heavy and medium armor enemies
Can check wiki/database for enemy armors
Or ask here

[worldly pewter]

are u expecting an ur champy gun soon tm why did u recommend to get 2 instead of 3 as the usual ?

[undone plover]

Not really
I prefer flan gun in pr6 instead of 3rd champy
More flexible for timing

[worldly pewter]

so focusing pr6 for sometime is the new tech for u now ?

[undone plover]

U could grab it with protocore as well
Both champy and flan gun cost same amount of protocore

[worldly pewter]

[undone plover]

Actually getting flan is faster by 1 month since u need 4 months for 3 champy and 3 months for 2 + 1 flan
Since u dont need to wait for another monthly refresh on pr3

[woven star]

What's BBs fire order? Flag, top, bottom? I always forget

[undone plover]

I believe so but not sure sry

[hazy kiln]

I'd it fine to LB any R/Elite ships I have dupes for?

[undone plover]

You mean use the dupe on the same ship?
Sure
The only cost is gold

And you should never raise duplicates of any ship
1 copy is fine

Even and especially UR ships

[hazy kiln]

Ok. Unicorn comments says to keep one at 2*. Is that fake news?

[worldly pewter]

use dupes to limit break or retrofit
if u don't have then u can use bulins

[sweet delta]

That's not fake news, that's trolling

[plain saffron]

time to report

[turbid marsh]

like 7 years ago sure...

i think people used 0lb unicorn 7 years ago when there aint oil caps, if i remembered correctly.

[hazy kiln]

Dupes for retrofit?

[tropic tusk]

yes u can use it for retrofit also

[hazy kiln]

FFS, how so. I just sold z23 and unicorn

[tropic tusk]

after mlb and retrofit (if possible) and u can also keep more "if u want"

[hazy kiln]

Do they take the place of sr blueprint or do you mean a second copy to retrofit

[pale niche]

Some retrofit upgrades may require bulins/dupes

[hazy kiln]

Ahhh

[tropic tusk]

some ship needs retrofit item to retrofit them ( and some of those item are event only)

[sweet delta]

Tap the Modernization node and see what it needs

[oak girder]

Is the effect universal or only for exercise?

[viscid swift]

Exercise only

[sweet delta]

The avi and HP stats are universal

[keen sable]

Imagine thinking unicorn was actually good seven years good

[paper walrus]

is there any guide on what you should buy from the opsi shop

[sweet delta]

There's no guide. When there's no guide, just ask

[rain vine]

plates, gear lab mats, loggers, ap boxes

[oak girder]

Which stage to farm? Forgot about this after completing the notes lol

N which investigation targets to choose?

[rain vine]

check pins, any 4

[undone plover]

use the tickets on ESP as well until u run out
if u can do the stage

[forest palm]

after all the Note missions are completed shouldn't farm more than 40k points, can even stop at 30k tbh

[wintry obsidian]

Leveling purples for those Tech Points is such a pain. Especially without the Efficiency Booster

[sweet delta]

Ok and?

[wintry obsidian]

Any tips to make it less painful? I'm going mad grinding Fusou and Yamashiro at the moment cause they are so weak

[tame jungle]

just do it

[eager mulch]

real

[rain vine]

keep morale above 120

[soft raft]

and if you arent already, grinding W9+

[worldly pewter]

if u mean the meta ships i just book them to 120 and use 1 in the boss fleet

[eager mulch]

He was commander level 137 six months ago don’t ask how i know

[wintry obsidian]

141 now. Not that level matters all that much after 100

[wheat ore]

how much should i level purple gear, or should i wait till i get gold gear to max them out

[wind hazel]

some 6, some are worth to go to 10

[forest palm]

there's also some good purple gear that you can later on convert down the line into good gear lab gear

[iron lily]

just dinged 60 and unlocked siren and gear lab and... feeling overwhelmed xD Any advice on where to go first/ what to do?

[wind hazel]

do the story, follow red [!]

[sweet delta]

Quit opsi until you have at least a level 100+ fleet

[iron lily]

average level, or just some ships 100+?

[sweet delta]

If youre asking that, then you can probably have a decent time in opsi

If your fleet is weak and you need to heal manually after every other battle, then playing opsi is not rewarding

[wheat ore]

should i use medals of honor to requisition?

[soft raft]

If you like being scammed, sure

[sweet delta]

If you have 2000+ medals then feel free

[wheat ore]

nah i didn't realise that there are other uses for it. Didn't know you can use it in the shop

[normal cedar]

is perseus a unicorn sidegrade/upgrade? Im confused after reading skills since both seem to heal a lot..
Or are they different

[worldly pewter]

i think it is neither

their role crosses in most low level content
but in the high level they diverge

[normal cedar]

Oh i see, so for me they are similar at my level now

[worldly pewter]

personally my perseus is still at lvl 51 from 13 months ago so i can't really tell how is it to raise perseus instead of unicorn at the start

[forest palm]

no real difference, Pre-load is dumb

[sweet delta]

They are the same role. Up to chapter 13 the difference in strength is unnoticeable (but cost is certainly different)

[forest palm]

it's just simpler to raise Unicorn because of her relevance in 14 + 15

that said you'll find that raising either takes maybe like 4 ~ 5 days of casual grind because both will end up sniping MvP

[cobalt gate]

so is there a way to see if radar scanner is still up?

[forest palm]

Helena iirc glows during her duration

[cobalt gate]

any special glow? because i have eldridge

[worldly pewter]

simply calculate 10 seconds after her scan or wait for the new ui as we are all doing

[cobalt gate]

oh what new ui

[forest palm]

ships should glow corresponding to the skill color afaik

[tulip thorn]

What was the last sign in the challenge mode?

[boreal wagon]

there isnt one (we already got it) he is referencing the fact that when the new ui was teased we got teased buff icons (which never made it into the actual game of yet)

[sweet delta]

Last as in previous March pisces or last as in last to be added to the game, takao Taurus?

[stark quiver]

Last month was Pisces
This month is Aries
Next/last is Taurus

[forest palm]

it's almost been 2 years

[stark quiver]

How time flies

[cobalt gate]

oh

[forest palm]

2 years since we got the Zodiac CMs, someday they'll give new CMs

[tulip thorn]

Damn i missed pisces

[stark quiver]

It’s just a portrait frame

[cobalt gate]

wow i was 10/10 for jin meta with the team and only 3/10 today... wonder what the difference was

[forest palm]

knowing Manjuu you can just get the frame retroactively

and it's just 2,000 coin if you already did it the prior year

[stark quiver]

I got to see my progress from last year

[forest palm]

once the CM rerun started, and I saw that you get basically fuck all for doing it again, I ignored it

rerun events are more fun because they're like 2 year time capsules

[cobalt gate]

speaking of which, would giving a +12 plane to yorktown be better or kearsarge?

[stark quiver]

i went from a 9:30 aries clear to a 2:59 so im happy

[cobalt gate]

can't believe i'm so bad at doing jin 1 shot

i wonder what was the reason i could go 10/10 and be so bad today

[frozen solstice]

I have a question because I got Sr but I don't know what to use it for #trophy-room

[turbid marsh]

depending on what cv you have, it is a good general cv or just a fleet tech

[eager mulch]

what sr

[cobalt gate]

so anything i'm doing wrong for jin meta?

[sweet delta]

So basically you're pulling requisition, which is a bad idea. And Allen M Sumner isn't very good

[cobalt gate]

i'm really unsure how i went from 10/10 to 3/10

[sweet delta]

Did you watch ?

Because I didn't watch your battles

[eager mulch]

??

[cobalt gate]

well usually it seems to be volital if last hit would do 16 or 12 and i don't think it has to do with sg

[eager mulch]

what

[rocky tinsel]

Is HE a good damage type against the current meta showdown ship, Hornet?

[cobalt gate]

kinda want ap for the modifier

or sap for medium