Frankly, your current backline is already stacked
#gameplay-help
atomic abyss
NJ Uni Enterprise?
Most new players could only dream of such a backline
If you really wanna spend money for Odin, be my guest
She will definitely be used
Just not together with NJ
She's not replacing NJ either if you're not at the point of a second fleet
orchid reef
well this what i made, and i replaced scylla for roon muse yesterday kinda
atomic abyss
Not sure why you did honestly
late flame
also why isnt sanrui tank
atomic abyss
Scylla is like one of the best CLs in the game
orchid reef
roon muse has alot of hp
atomic abyss
Doesn't mean shit
CAs have high HP but low evasion, doesn't mean they're all tanky
She is somewhat tanky yes (same as Portland retro lol)
But if the Scylla was already raised she would tank more regardless
orchid reef
yea kinda, scylla is 1 more lmb away from mlb
atomic abyss
Levels wise
orchid reef
scylla is 76
atomic abyss
Worse of all, roon muse is just way worse than regular roon
76 Scylla means she would be way way way tankier
Because level difference also plays a part in how much you can tank
orchid reef
by me she dies pretty fast not sure
atomic abyss
And the roon would die even faster
If you were facing a level 76 opponent
That roon would take 50% more damage per hit than Scylla
That's just how the damage formula works
nocturne glade
Who would be the best choice for a third ship for Dragon Empery Exp Farming?
atomic abyss
Who would be the best choice for a third ship for Dragon Empery Exp Farming?
Tai Yuan
Assuming Fu Shun and Yat Sen are the other 2
nocturne glade
Tai Yuan
Assuming Fu Shun and Yat Sen are the other 2
yea those are the other two. Ty!
atomic abyss
She has the best retrofit of the 4
orchid reef
well putted her back then
atomic abyss
Funnily enough
nocturne glade
She has the best retrofit of the 4
I guess ill pick up her retro item from the shop sometime
atomic abyss
well putted her back then
You can give her the blue single 76mm main gun actually
Her damage would be even higher
Cos she wants to spam her all out assault
orchid reef
or other?
atomic abyss
The point is, she wants a high rof gun to spam her all out assault
The blue 76mm is the highest rof gun
She doesn't want good gun damage (not that it's bad)
She wants high rof
orchid reef
this
atomic abyss
or other?
Btw NJ would want the twin 120 here
More FP, better at killing suicide boats
atomic abyss
now who on this
No one
orchid reef
Btw NJ would want the twin 120 here
More FP, better at killing suicide boats
this really
atomic abyss
I mean you can see that it has more FP stat 
orchid reef
okay
atomic abyss
A valuable lesson for the early game is that all that glitters is not gold
Many of the poverty gear are purple
Hell, some of the best gear is purple
orchid reef
alr, and really the some quadruple 30 is that bad or
atomic abyss
The twin 100 isn't bad
It's just, there's better for certain use cases
It's all on rof and has no damage
Which is kinda bad when it comes to planes
orchid reef
alr, and really the some quadruple 30 is that bad or
when i have this
orchid reef
It's all on rof and has no damage
Which is kinda bad when it comes to planes
also what is rof
late flame
rate of fire
nocturne glade
also what is rof
rate of fire
orchid reef
thanks 
atomic abyss
Yes it is that bad anyways
orchid reef
well gg
anyway if i would like to spend the 10$ on some of the pr ship ticket i can buy in the shop, what ship
i could like do august von parseval or marco polo
dreamy blade
avp or ancho, marco isnt great
crimson glacier
avp loses pretty much all of her value if you have imp
orchid reef
implacable is not on mlb, but avp could be good + i like her look also fr
crimson glacier
avp takes a while to get maxed too
orchid reef
sadly, but could be worth it
anyway also because you are expert @atomic abyss , if i retrofit warspite, is it better than nj by any chance?...
jaunty vault
lol no
strong tartan
warspite flop
atomic abyss
anyway also because you are expert <@306975612877275138> , if i retrofit warspit...
Not even remotely
She's worse than many SR BBs here
orchid reef
oh sadge
atomic abyss
You're not gonna have anything better than NJ specifically till Bismarck 2 reruns
FdG is on the same level as NJ
strong tartan
the last time she saw actual consideration was back when she was released
orchid reef
yea, ima start saving for bismarck (i want her anyway cuz shes so cool โค๏ธ )
atomic abyss
You should be saving for any and all limited URs yes
orchid reef
well, idk what the new one in the next event would be but, i need moslt coins really, by my counts 400k coins
orchid reef
well, idk what the new one in the next event would be but, i need moslt coins r...
for 200 pulls
atomic abyss
Well, when you push to 12-1 you will be able to grind enough coins
You will also be able to build the second fleet
12-1 is like, 1.2k coins per run of the map iirc
orchid reef
Well, when you push to 12-1 you will be able to grind enough coins
what is in 12th chapter that i can get many coins?...
crimson glacier
it just drops coins
atomic abyss
There just is a lot of coins as a reward for each time you clear the map
orchid reef
no ship drops?
crimson glacier
all stages after 10 drop a lot of coins
they are literally normal stages, they drop the same stuff as all other places
atomic abyss
12 is just the best at it
In terms of oil:coins
crimson glacier
w12 is just good balance of being really easy while also giving good amount of resources
atomic abyss
While there are w12 map drop only ships
They aren't usable
orchid reef
well, i dont have dock space so, thats why i dont need ship drops
paper ridge
Good morning fellow weebs
versed forum
is PastAA better than Roomba for ca/cb?
paper ridge
I have a pair of questions : the rotation of available ship in the merit shop, is it a fixed pull of can we expect miracles (there's albacore today and I'm hesitant).
Have there been a lot of retrofitting added to the game in recent months ?
eternal basalt
is PastAA better than Roomba for ca/cb?
Wtf is pastAA
versed forum
Twin 90mm AA gun
eternal basalt
I have a pair of questions : the rotation of available ship in the merit shop, i...
Expect a retrofit with CN anni
paper ridge
I'd love a Dunkerque retrofit ๐๐ป
eternal basalt
late flame
yes
eager marsh
buy Littorio or get from war archive?
sinful escarp
however you need flasher to make fishpack work
sadly she isnt available rn
if you want to make a SS fleet rn just go with wolfpack because they are all available
paper ridge
carmine heath
Is the vit 2 usable?
dreamy blade
buy Littorio or get from war archive?
if you dont need bulins from merit shop it's a lot easier to just buy her there than farm WA
atomic abyss
Is the vit 2 usable?
Which one
There's 2
Blue or white
They're different functionally
carmine heath
White
atomic abyss
White is basically the best parallel TB that's not a wyvern
dreamy blade
better than breguet?
woven star
breguet have faster rld and can intercept aircrafts, white vit-2 have slower speed and better m/h damage but higher rld...so
on other way slower move speed more important for interceptors so for vit it's not important
polar lion
I've never used white vit2. Where is its use cases usually?
forest palm
it's a Parallel TB that's overshadowed
woven star
I think when research 5 wasn't coinable
undone plover
we used to recommend pr4 and u could get a few wyverns by the time u finished pr4
that is probably why it wasnt used as much
for ppl starting pr5 now it is a good transitional 
forest palm
problem is you can make do with a Banana until you have mats for a Wyvern 
undone plover
yeah that too
also breg is a cheap wyvern "sidegrade" now so that is also an option for ppl attempting later chapters
forest palm
oh, right the one thing that also hurts the VIT-2 is that you can also get a Breguet
woven star
Blackburn not so far behind Breguet and part of Wyvern... maybe better choice for it. lower intercept dmg but
forest palm
Blackburn is just a worse Cuda
opal stirrup
Guys, do I have a good fleet??
eager marsh
put roon on left most
undone plover
I think the problem with that is breg can be used with a wyvern
blackburn upgrades to wyvern
so u are essentially using 800 core data for saving 21 electronics which I guess can be argued for but I personally dont find it worth
woven star
and is it Roon on middle?
undone plover
wouldnt that cause issues with suicide boats and then later out of ammo?
and yeah put roon tank (leftmost)
polar lion
I always bought Blackburn to be used to craft Wyvern
undone plover
it depends how u spend your core data
if u have spare u can use it on w.e u want
if u manage gear lab mats well u dont need to do that tbh
electronics are needed but not that badly
polar lion
Even with 2.6k tronics I still feel it's too little since it might drain fast if something borken came out that we wanna mass produce like with twin 76. Core data on the other hand just became an excess after a while and just sitting there collecting dust
undone plover
well as a newbie u dont have that luxury
u need 850 for cog chips + arrays
so that leaves ~2k per month that u can spend on stuff
and we recommend 2-3 white 1-2 black shells
then indep
then DDG, submarine and CV timing gear
then a few oxytorps
maybe a fumo
then there is a bunch of ships + skins for collectors
so really only boomers have excess coredata
even with triple coredata events I still havent bought half the collector stuff in that shop after ~2 years
polar lion
I see
undone plover
sry I misremembered the cog chip cost, it is much cheaper but still
stable badger
ESP best farming spot?
cobalt rapids
if u can low cost
dreamy goblet
Is it fine to retire ship after MLB them when I don't have luxury of gem to expand the dock? Or should I max 125 them for fleet tech point and then retire them later?
atomic abyss
Is it fine to retire ship after MLB them when I don't have luxury of gem to expa...
120 for fleet tech point ideally
Well
If the ship is easy to obtain you could just retire it anyways...
Esp if you don't intend to farm fleet tech
cobalt rapids
you only need 120 to grab their tech
if you dont have a choice retire the ones that are easy to get back first
dreamy goblet
many thanks
bitter cosmos
what cn guide?
upbeat wagon
I have 2 seperate questions
Should I do FdG's FS5 or coin agir up after mlb'ing FdG
Should I coin up AvP's FS5 or coin anchorage up or coin up Monarch for tech points? I have implac so im guessing that makes AvP FS5 lower prio
jaunty vault
is your anchorage not dev30?
upbeat wagon
Nope
jaunty vault
ig do agir and anchorage for now
upbeat wagon
So skip FdG FS5?
jaunty vault
you eventually want to get her to fs5 but agir is more important
turbid patrol
is there any gem guide for what i should buy?
shell willow
/gems
odd rootBOT
Gem Spending 101
Gems 
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money ๐ณ.
shell willow
holy thats long
sinful escarp
its longer than i remember....
worldly pewter
and then your fleet is alright
coopy u missed that uvh was missing a smol star
turbid patrol
holy thats long
oh nice ty
jaunty vault
its shorter than before lol
next rampart
aight tysm
deep cypress
So I'm finally building Agir to replace Roon Muse in my main mob fleet. Is Hindenburg significantly better than Agir or I'm good with Agir as my main mob tank for now?
forest palm
Hindenburg is a much worse tank than Agir, however she will out damage Agir so they don't occupy the same space
honest stirrup
So I'm finally building Agir to replace Roon Muse in my main mob fleet. Is Hinde...
Not same role
deep cypress
Oh, right. Then I'm good with Agir if I want a pure tank.
Is there some kind of guide to know what Shipyard ships should be prioritized?
Nevermind. I've just found a few months old message by Ender about it. ๐๐ป According to that message, it should be FdG (done) > Anchorage (done) > August (TBD) > Agir (WIP) > Hakuryuu (TBD, but I have Shinano to pair with Amagi CV, so...).
paper walrus
Nevermind. I've just found a few months old message by Ender about it. ๐๐ป Acco...
can you link that message? I came back yesterday after quitting years ago and im so lost on what to do
sinful escarp
Nevermind. I've just found a few months old message by Ender about it. ๐๐ป Acco...
after agir, if you have implac you can skip hakuryuu and go for plymouth
worldly pewter
haku serves me better than ply personally
deep cypress
Is Plymouth a must have if I have a maxed Z52?
sinful escarp
since he already has shinano and amagicv, IF he has implac there he has the CV fleet ready
worldly pewter
nothing is a must have
sinful escarp
plymouth is a good addition, she is just that good
paper walrus
oh thats all he said xd ok thanks anyway
deep cypress
The good thing is Haku is coinable now, so I can coin her and research Plymouth, right? Can do both at the same time. 
sinful escarp
wait do you have implacable? just curious cause you didnt answer
worldly pewter
yes u can do both at the same time 
but pr5 now has kinda lost its lure because of pr7
dreamy blade
yes ply isnt coinable yet, as far as DRs go fdg/agir/haku are the best to coin
deep cypress
wait do you have implacable? just curious cause you didnt answer
Yeah, yeah. I do have Implac.
sinful escarp
since you have implac, you can also skip avp
deep cypress
So... What should I do next, then? Plymouth and then some PR 7 girl?
sinful escarp
imo yeah. ply>nakh=napoli>haku
dire raptor
Are the new ships good
spice phoenix
are longer face missions or shorter face missions more efficient? (not including 30 min research)
cobalt rapids
check /tierlist
cobalt rapids
are longer face missions or shorter face missions more efficient? (not including...
same type of research have basically almost the same eff/hour with shorter ones winning by a short margin ( excluding the 30min ones like u said )
but always consider that longer researches can guarantee u that that type of research will be running for longer so overall better eff/h depending on ur queue luck
dire raptor
How do i check tierlist sorry
spice phoenix
same type of research have basically almost the same eff/hour with shorter ones ...
tysm!
cobalt rapids
well talking mainly about face rigging and grant and excluding E type researches which are abit weird and cube research is always 1H > rest which are kinda bad and ofc the other bad type of researches which we dc about
paper walrus
who is NJ ๐ญ
cobalt rapids
How do i check tierlist sorry
/tierlist theres tentive rankings in the endgame one, if ure a new player you can consider skipping this banner depending on the number of pulls u have but if u get franklin could consider using her
odd rootBOT
cobalt rapids
who is NJ ๐ญ
New Jersey
spice phoenix
who is NJ ๐ญ
new jersey
paper walrus
so yesterday i was told that fdg is not "anywhere close to the best of the best". Then why does she have the highest priority?
i mean when i look through the comments most people recommend her first
abstract solar
Is there a w14 guide
wind hazel
/w15 works but overkill
paper walrus
the best of the best BBs are limited
what ๐ญ this is so different from when i used to play ๐ญ
wind hazel
you can search through past threads to get an idea too
novel solstice
Use the w15 guide, anything that works for that will work fine on w14 (and you'll want to be leveling those ships for when you attack w15...)
abstract solar
Got it thanks all
novel solstice
what ๐ญ this is so different from when i used to play ๐ญ
Because they've added hundreds of ships, and if an event is going to excite people its ships have to powercreep existing ones. So ships that have been available in the main campaign and the non-event gatcha pools for a while have almost entirely been powercrept into oblivion.
paper walrus
interesting 
paper mural
How good is the UR gun from the Raffaello event?
wind hazel
best against medium
timid solar
Does the mob fleet or boss fleet kills the first boss In 15-3
sharp echo
oh forgot to ask, the event sortie also consume ship energy?
wind hazel
Does the mob fleet or boss fleet kills the first boss In 15-3
usually mob
keen sable
oh forgot to ask, the event sortie also consume ship energy?
Yes also afaik dying does cost morale
So it's not a raid exercise. But I'm still affinitying the pasta sub anyway.
sharp echo
yeah, this is a good chance to grind low lvl ships
deep cypress
imo yeah. ply>nakh=napoli>haku
Awright. Thank you for your help, man.
mystic acorn
Is there a point in picking the area investigations in the event? Other than a challenge
jaunty vault
rewards
mystic acorn
K
zinc cave
Is there a point in picking the area investigations in the event? Other than a c...
mission rewards
sharp echo
who should i mlb next?
hushed sorrel
since you are already using york i would upgrade her
sharp echo
YT2 enterprise implacable good fleet team?
sweet delta
Depends on your URs
sharp echo
other than those, i have fritz mlb
sweet delta
Then definitely raffaello
sharp echo
just for reference, i have golden darkness mlb
turbid marsh
yeah unless your name is musashi or bismarkz, aint no one gonna beat raffaello in campaign mob XD
before may UR appears ofc
paper walrus
So apparently i can spend coins for some pr ships. Is it worth it?
sharp echo
yeah i see raffaelo skill 2 is good to help low lvl ship too
sweet delta
It's free or cheap so why not
sharp echo
any info what is may UR?
paper walrus
๐
sharp socket
its not even april yet so no idea
also april fools is coming up, is UR purin getting a skin this time
jaunty vault
its not even april yet so no idea
sharp socket
thanks
jaunty vault
jaunty vault
any info what is may UR?
my very reliable sources say there's gonna be atleast 1 UR and the event is gonna last 3 weeks instead of the normal 2 weeks
normal cedar
any chance tempesta gets ur this year? its the only faction without a ur right
jaunty vault
there is a non zero chance
sweet delta
I believe META and all the collabs and dragon Emery also don't have UR
normal cedar
is meta even considered a faction?
jaunty vault
sweet delta
Why not
jaunty vault
META even got sub factions
sweet delta
Those are classes 
normal cedar
historical chinese pirate ship tempesta meta ur coming soon?!?!
sweet delta
#al-general coming to #gameplay-help soon !!!
jaunty vault
they hate gph to the core, they aren't stepping in here
fluid umbra
Which event stage do I farm for xp/oil/points efficiency?
Or just forget it and go 12-4
jaunty vault
you can do any night stage at oil cap after you're done with all investigations or
fluid umbra
That works
I was wasting oil in esp
jaunty vault
fluid umbra
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/460645783021289472/1355324306439...
Lmfao no, no I don't have that fleet
jaunty vault
you just want enough event points for the milestone rewards you want
fluid umbra
you just want enough event points for the milestone rewards you want
Worth farming xp along with?
jaunty vault
not sure about the oil to exp efficiency but these types of event don't have good efficiency
Eh okay
jaunty vault
fluid umbra
My 1:1 doesn't even work because it's 20 oil per run 
sweet delta
eager marsh
Am i missing something why is it still 68%? I got 3 stars
ivory pawn
Cause stars and completion are entirely separate.
Just beat the boss again to raise the %, probably only need to do it one more time.
eager marsh
Man i thought they were related
sweet delta
And turn on clearing mode before you do so
eager marsh
clearing mode button says you must reach 100%
ivory pawn
Pretty sure you need to beat the boss again to turn on clearing mode.
sweet delta
brittle smelt
Anyone I should prioritize MLBing next? or do I hold for whatever UR's next? I have 31k specialized core atm
sweet delta
You can max fritz and focus pr7 to max nakhimov
eager marsh
You got so many non mlb lv 125
sweet delta
Kears isn't worth staying in 6 for, and Brest isn't worth staying in 5 for, unless you're close to another ply gun
stark quiver
Anyone I should prioritize MLBing next? or do I hold for whatever UR's next? I h...
either fritz/z52 looks like a good investment, and go to pr7
sweet schooner
How do I make it so that implacable goes before Enty?
stark quiver
use different planes
sweet schooner
Ok, which ones is good?
jaunty vault
How do I make it so that implacable goes before Enty?
click on this for both ships and share screenshots
sweet delta
Why do you want implacable to go before Enty? They're low level and not mlb and don't have at least +10 gear, it's not worth thinking about sync
In campaign or other maps with multiple waves of enemies, you actually want them to desync
sweet schooner
Well Iโm dealing with chapter 9-4 where these ddโs go faster than light
And so I want implacable to slow them b4 enty goes
sweet delta
But your carriers don't have any payload that benefits a lot from slow enemies
You have bombs and parallel torpedoes, it doesnt matter much if the bosses are fast
sweet schooner
Really? Ah ok Iโm still new to this, I just assumed enty missed a lot when they move fast as lighting
sweet schooner
click on this for both ships and share screenshots
Fixed it but thx
sweet delta
https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/่ๅดๆญฆๅจ็ๆฃๅธๆบๅถไธๆจกๆ
This is 3 years old but until someone cooks something confirmed to be more correct, it's what we have
Hit rates of rockets and bombs against different boss speeds
sweet schooner
Thx g
jaunty burrow
Can I have help with two fleets for story? (I'm at 10-1)
jaunty burrow
Can I have help with two fleets for story? (I'm at 10-1)
Please?
rain vine
make a thread and post your dock and current fleets
stoic forge
ivory pawn
Nah. Save yourself the gold/plates, it's basically a sidegrade to what you have equipped now.
next rampart
guys is santafe good ?
weary gust
She looks decent/good.
Haven't used her yet or looked into it much so take that with a grain of salt.
next rampart
aight thank you so much
she does alot damage but i wonder if there are some that better
cobalt gate
not a tank, above average cl
weary gust
There's definitely much better.
She's got decent dps skills and 2x main gun, with a support ability that might make her useful in some niche situations (though there are better ships for those still).
Actual performance can't say cause I haven't used her, a lot depends on barrage skill damages
next rampart
does laffey retrofit better than her?
weary gust
Prob not.
next rampart
wut about unicorn retrofit?
next rampart
wut about unicorn retrofit?
i see on a yt chanel suggest using her
weary gust
Completely different, you can't compare main fleet to vanguard.
cobalt gate
Probably better than most dd you can get early game
next rampart
cobalt gate
Train Portland
weary gust
You've got a major problem with Ryuuhou and Essex, mainly them being not limit broken
sweet delta
Do you have 2 more Bolzano crystals for limit break?
next rampart
Do you have 2 more Bolzano crystals for limit break?
what is that, i dont see it in my inv
sweet delta
Can you limit break Bolzano
cobalt gate
What is your cruise pass lvl
next rampart
43 rn
sweet delta
then drop Bolzano immediately for Portland
sweet delta
you also need to get rid of Ryuuhou for a BB
next rampart
Is there any chance of him being able to reach level 80 in 2 days you think?>
i think yes :D, but a small chance cuz i've just played this game yesterday
weary gust
If you can't get to cruise pass level 80 in the next two days your Bolzano META is entirely worthless, so there's that.
What BBs do you have in your dock?
next rampart
i have these
cobalt gate
Only penny then
next rampart
actually i dont have much ship, so i just trying to use resource effectively
cobalt gate
Did the beginner missions give medals I forgot
cobalt gate
Is the medal exchange cl for you or a different ship type
next rampart
Is the medal exchange cl for you or a different ship type
different type, cv and ca
cobalt gate
No bb either
next rampart
yep.
cobalt gate
Progress on the training mission?
next rampart
here just rn
cobalt gate
You can clear 4-1 for Nelson and retrofit her after you retrofit unicorn and Portland
next rampart
You can clear 4-1 for Nelson and retrofit her after you retrofit unicorn and Por...
this gonna take days cuz it only 3 time to do the hard stage
and i can get nelson from the normal stage right?
cobalt gate
Did you join a guild yet
next rampart
no not yet
cobalt gate
Join one although I do think you can get guild coins without joining as well
atomic abyss
the game gives you enough guild coins to buy 2 rares and 2 elites in guild shop
zenith pebble
and i can get nelson from the normal stage right?
Yes, 2-3, 5-4, and 10-3
cobalt gate
Although buy the gold plates
cobalt gate
1st
zenith pebble
Does making gear 11+ do much of anything?
atomic abyss
this is a new player, what are they going to do with gold plates?
they're not in a guild either, they wont get the coins back fast enough
next rampart
the game gives you enough guild coins to buy 2 rares and 2 elites in guild shop
ye atually 1 elite 1 rare and one it say limited?
zenith pebble
Iโll notice a difference between gear 10 and 13 then
cobalt gate
Wait I thought you earned same amount of coins not in a guild vs in guild
atomic abyss
Does making gear 11+ do much of anything?
compared to +13, the upgrade at +11 and +12 from +10 isnt that large
which is why it is recommended to either push to +13 or leave it at +10
eternal basalt
+5, +6, +7 = +18
atomic abyss
ye atually 1 elite 1 rare and one it say limited?
you can refresh
atomic abyss
guild shop resets twice a week
cobalt gate
For guild? Itโs 3 day timer
next rampart
oh i can, but sadly i dont see nelson
atomic abyss
each time it resets, you can refresh the shop once with guild coins
cobalt gate
And free reset.
atomic abyss
nelson isnt in the guild shop
cobalt gate
Well 50 coin
atomic abyss
idk why you were even asked to get nelson from there
zenith pebble
oh i can, but sadly i dont see nelson
You can get her through pulls and campaign
cobalt gate
I mean just clear 4-1 and get a copy
atomic abyss
what even is the issue here
runnin 0 BBs?
zenith pebble
She isnt in 4-1
cobalt gate
0 bb and no builins so gold cv at no limit break
atomic abyss
She isnt in 4-1
next rampart
alr, so this i just changed the recent team to this
atomic abyss
where are you campaign wise currently
next rampart
4-2 rn
sweet delta
Retire some blue ships, buy Enterprise from the medal shop, replace ryuuhou with enterprise
atomic abyss
next rampart
i can go further
atomic abyss
suchi there's a much more fundamental issue here
anyways, i dont think he's getting nelson anytime soon
with 6/21 objectives
zenith pebble
Is Nelson good for early map
sweet delta
i dont think the fundamental issue interferes with replacing Ryuuhou
cobalt gate
well yes after she got a really good retrofit
atomic abyss
exp books, if any, should go to pennsylvania
i would agree with your recommendation suchi, but he can just use essex instead
sweet delta
atomic abyss
enterprise would be woefully underlevelled
i doubt he has the exp book to level both penny and enty
assuming he has any left
next rampart
i have like 150 is that enough
sweet delta
too many
cobalt gate
yeah thats enough
atomic abyss
sufficient
next rampart
nah attually 117
cobalt gate
when do new players need to think about 2nd team
atomic abyss
earliest w9, usually later
sweet delta
give like 60 to penn and 50 to enterprise
cobalt gate
also unlock that bulin and use her
you can do enterpise or wait 3 days for montly reset on medals
or buy golden bulins and go with essex
if any more in medal shop
still do exercise since even losing get points and exp and buy resources you may need
and joining guild is a priority even a random one for now
elfin hollow
i'm low on cubes should i spend it on the new char?
atomic abyss
save for UR
elfin hollow
nice alright
elfin hollow
224 cubes
cobalt gate
save and just do the 3 daily if you want to try collect ship. the strength is really not much to write home about
sad to say
eternal basalt
Good tech I hear though
cobalt gate
it isn't reload although still good
next rampart
aigth, so my way is get retro portland laffey and.. try to get nelson then retro her, straight with that is ...
ahh, its hard then
cobalt gate
ignore laffey, portland then unicorn
or unicorn 1st if you have enough prints to the modernization one
next rampart
aigth i just go the first step with unicorn
eternal basalt
Laffey may be beginner quest goal
next rampart
next is portland and nelson too?
eternal basalt
[CN/EN] Get Laffey, Javelin or Z23 to Level 70.
cobalt gate
important nodes for portland
next rampart
[CN/EN] Get Laffey, Javelin or Z23 to Level 70.
is it the easy quest? if it is so i just done it
cobalt gate
since they use different prints you can use your extra ones here and farm for unicorn
annoying mission is this
did you have to do all the missions to get nelson? been so long
next rampart
yes i have to
still pond
how am i doing ๐ ?
stark quiver
pretty well
next rampart
how am i doing ๐ ?
is this wut i should focus on?
digital raven
quick question is santa fe or intrepid good
cobalt gate
kinda but want retrofit for like 4 of those
stark quiver
is this wut i should focus on?
thats a good starter fleet to reference off of yes
clear harbor
How "good" is this event? This is a new type of event for me (I've only seen the Raf and Implacable events). The rewards don't look great. I care about the story, but I think I care about pushing to w9 more.
I'm Commander Level 58 stuck on W7 due to that.
sweet delta
you have a whole two weeks
stark quiver
grind until 30-40k event pts, there are gold plates, and 700 core data which is almost a white shell
clear harbor
grind until 30-40k event pts, there are gold plates, and 700 core data which is ...
Oh, good call good call.
cobalt gate
you have 2 weeks to do, there is an oil lock of 25 oil for the hard stages, finishing like 50 battles gets you 10k
clear harbor
Is there a wiki on the oil cap?
Like how that affect things?
I started stage over the oil cap, so did that rebalance my team or something?
sweet delta
/oilcap
odd rootBOT
clear harbor
Oh, my fleet just isn't good enough for night difficulty, then.
cobalt gate
just means the max amount of oil spent will be the oil cap, doesn't change anything on your end
probably would be in 2 weeks
clear harbor
Cool. Thanks.
cobalt gate
maybe not for the esp but if you grind hard then possibl
next rampart
alr this is alternative rn, ima change it on the way
clear harbor
Now I understand why the oil cap is so important for farming.
sweet delta
Retire some blue ships, buy Enterprise from the medal shop, replace ryuuhou with...
@next rampart
Except that u're replacing Essex now. You have more than enough exp packs to get enterprise up to level 40+
next rampart
is it musch different, i really need to use resource effectively
i mean like i got the exp packs from the homecoming mission
sweet delta
enterprise becomes invaluable after you reach chapter 6+
where she'll do almost triple the damage of essex when out of ammo against the boss
cobalt gate
it is a slightly stronger ship and does require less skill books to complete, i guess its the thinking of not knowing when the next time she will appear in medal exchange
actually yeah go enterpise, wow essex needs a lot of synergy
cobalt gate
nice, if you can squeeze an extra bulin unlock the gold one and limit break enty as well
sweet delta
Bruh how many gold bulins did you have
Uhh nelson does not go in the same slot as Bolzano. Put laffey back in
cobalt gate
yeah sadly without max limit break she will fall off pretty quickly
next rampart
Uhh nelson does not go in the same slot as Bolzano. Put laffey back in
i put her back
next rampart
Bruh how many gold bulins did you have
not really remember, but i think i use her for santafe like 2 of em
so is it good now? ;-;
cobalt gate
yeah stick to that
next rampart
thank you guys so much
idk how far im gonna lost if i dont have you guys
appreciate for helping alot
hushed sorrel
just pay the bill? (thats a joce)
crisp geode
Whats the best stage to farm this event? Been T4 night stages bc theyre faster than ESP stages
eager marsh
how can you beat arbiter hard?
crisp geode
Only farm ESP when you have badges then?
wind hazel
how can you beat arbiter hard?
you use good fleets and reduce its hp to 0
cobalt gate
make sure you maxed out on the strategic then change 4 fleets that are good agaoinst heavy armor and use subs
arbiter don't have the weakness things like stronghold right?
eager marsh
sounds like long way ahead for me. I mean I can't even use regroup
cobalt gate
thats why its hard mode
eternal basalt
Whats the best stage to farm this event? Been T4 night stages bc theyre faster t...
All T's are the same. Night, make sure you completed the story missions.
stark quiver
i would pick up the 40k pt cogs too
inland shoal
I wish it were 40k cogs
crisp geode
cognition data?
eternal basalt
You know what he means 
inland shoal
cog chips
The mat you need to awaken your ships past lvl 100/105/110/115 (and 120 together with arrays)
stark quiver
yea doesnt hurt to pick em up, esp if u decide to become a tryhard later on
crisp geode
The only tryhard thing imma prolly do is oath some ships
eternal basalt
That's Akashihard, not try hard
crisp geode
Equipment still confuses me in this game, so i might not become a real tryhard later
eternal basalt
Equipment confuses everyone
crisp geode
My brain still works based on "more pew pew and shiny = more damage"
atomic abyss
idk which is more confusing tbh
the game's lore, or gear
inland shoal
Well tbh cog chips are just if you grind a lot of ships, doesn't take much tryharding, just quite some time of grinding
cobalt gate
i wish the game just told me what armor type it is without me having to look it up
thats like 50% of what equipment is
crisp geode
I think we should unite our brains and make a rival game called Blue Street
stark quiver
game lore is shrimple 
crisp geode
Ah yes, i was too afraid to ask this too. Since chapter 3 or 4 the game stopped showing me the cutscenes from the chapters, is it normal?
cobalt gate
yes
deep cypress
Yes. Now the story is told through events.
eternal basalt
You can not account for equipment Coefficient since its not listed ingame 
cobalt gate
becasue they don't want to do the ww2 story line anymore
eternal basalt
JP has ch 4 though
crisp geode
Guess i'll never understand or know the lore
More focus to boobies and oathing cute ships 
eternal basalt
deep cypress
Guess i'll never understand or know the lore
You can read the events in the wiki. There's a video covering a big part of the lore (outdated, tho) on YT too. But I don't know if this is the cannel for that. #al-lore
crisp geode
Too late, i've become allergic to lore
cobalt gate
i wish there was also a flow chart so i can just read the story
forest palm
there's a youtube vid pinned in that chat that actually does this
cobalt gate
oh nice
cobalt gate
i kinda stopped reading since opsi since was trying to get through all the records and stopped halfway
eternal basalt
All current events are in order
cobalt gate
oh is it? seems like it jumps around to different viewpoints
lost stirrup
soft raft
don't know how outdated it is
It goes up to just before Amagi CV event
forest palm
that is a good massive chunk all things considered
cobalt rapids
@hollow gust i tried ur 5 eagle aa setup over the past days and had no leaks due to missing alpha dmg as expected 
forest palm
so what five 76 and a single Sextuple?
cobalt rapids
five 76 nahkimov doesnt carry aa
forest palm
ah, ok
eager mulch
five 76 is a lot of 76
forest palm
it's just 380 
hollow gust
<@654875151560736770> i tried ur 5 eagle aa setup over the past days and had no ...
Wait wdym
cobalt rapids
i mean no planes leaked with less than full hp
undone plover
u mean some leaks due to range/positioning happened but not due to lack of dmg?
cobalt rapids
range and firerate yes
timber swift
How far u guys play the hospital event? I have the medal now
paper walrus
Are ships from here worth buying. Ive read that u37 is a good submarine
jaunty vault
I have the medal too
timber swift
Are ships from here worth buying. Ive read that u37 is a good submarine
buy everything u dont have
jaunty vault
i got it in 3 hours
dont buy everything you don't have
buy only what you need first
cobalt rapids
its a good sub but not best, depends on u if u need a good sub
theres also alot of good tech behind some ships in merit shop
buy as needed otherwise jsut gold bulins
hollow gust
i mean no planes leaked with less than full hp
You use 5 rainbow US then? Hmm oh well
paper walrus
Well.. i dont really "need" it but this is my sub fleet rn xd so im thinking about working on it
cobalt rapids
what other subs do u have
paper walrus
what other subs do u have
sweet delta
Are ships from here worth buying. Ive read that u37 is a good submarine
You have 256k merit just buy her lol. But don't have to use her
cobalt rapids
u can grab 37 and look for 96 in medal
jaunty vault
256k
paper walrus
Also are these rainbow torpedoes still good nowadays? Are they worth to enhance or should i save parts for better equipment
cobalt rapids
u should enhance all gear you use to +10, and they are situational
atomic abyss
not very useful
not as wasteful as the torps you are using though...
paper walrus
Hmm ok
paper walrus
not very useful
not as wasteful as the torps you are using though...
Ill be honest i remember nothing about how to choose equipment and build fleets anymore i just use whatever was there because it works ๐ญ
cobalt rapids
Ill be honest i remember nothing about how to choose equipment and build fleets ...
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment give this a read
paper walrus
๐ ender gave me this yesterday too im slowly going through it
rocky tinsel
What is "OPS damage boost" on gear?
atomic abyss
damage boost in operation siren
very irrelevant even there tbh
rocky tinsel
Thanks. Different question: Looking at the equipment guide, there are "Barrage only" DD guns. Can you give me examples of which destroyers are best served by them? the starter Z destroyer?
cobalt rapids
kawakaze shima z52 kazagumo
rocky tinsel
Thank you
Basically destroyers without good efficiency on their guns?
but with barrage
cobalt rapids
destroyers whose dmg from how fast they fire ( barrages/on fire stuff ) outweighs the mg dmg
rocky tinsel
Gotcha. Appreciate the help.
cobalt rapids
theres some destroyers with bad mg eff on their guns who still take good guns because their barrage is equally bad
mellow cape
Franklin worth mlb'ing and maxing?
cobalt rapids
shes good and she gives good tech
but not top meta good
cobalt gate
so what tier are ddg backrow?
atomic abyss
not good
they arent bad, but id rate them super low because of the opportunity cost of not being able to use them as a frontliner
cobalt gate
intresting to know they aren't bad
storm heron
I think they are bad
cobalt gate
just wondering how they would be tier wise or what ship would be close to it
cobalt rapids
D/D/D/D/D/D/D/D
cobalt gate
they have a consistnat barrage at least
storm heron
just use nelson retro or hoodโข๏ธ
cobalt gate
guess they are like b tier then
paper walrus
Ok so the guide lists independence in the core data shop as high priority if you lack good CVs. Should i buy her
cobalt rapids
do u have 3 white shells and 1-2 blackshells or enough coredata for them if yes then yes
paper walrus
4 from each and 8.7k core data
tidal yacht
Is there an way of idling without burn in
cobalt rapids
yea buy her
storm heron
8.7k
tidal yacht
Is there an way of idling without burn in
I don't want tirpitz and Enterprise icons burnt into my screen
sweet delta
that sounds like a problem with your screen, not the game
tidal yacht
I mean to prevent it
tidal yacht
I don't want tirpitz and Enterprise icons burnt into my screen
For the people reacting with 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in
sweet delta
and again, that sounds like a problem with your screen, not the game
atomic abyss
I don't want tirpitz and Enterprise icons burnt into my screen
why would they even be on your screen long enough to burn in
crisp geode
Bro is developing a bot with python, that's why
fickle parcel
I had the Torp/BB strikes burnt into my screen.
eager mulch
botting is against tos
fickle parcel
Only those 2 though.
cobalt gate
best planes for chapter 14?
hollow gust
flapjack tenrai the two parallel rainbow tb
rocky tinsel
World 10 for coin farming?
hollow gust
why would you bring rockets to mob battle
atomic abyss
World 10 for coin farming?
ideally, w12
rocky tinsel
Ty
cobalt gate
mostly because those mob bb are annoying and hit backrow
cobalt rapids
rockets are for kagerous with some specific timing but w14 is too easy nowadays to worry about stuff like that
cobalt gate
speaking of which, how much better are those new support planes vs flapjack? i'm wondering if i want to shell out for my support fleet
cobalt rapids
uh let me see if i find that graph but they are slightly better but also super cheap to make so why not
atomic abyss
mostly because those mob bb are annoying and hit backrow
yes... but rockets wont do shit to mob BBs...
cos heavy armour
rockets can help at picking off repair ships admittedly
cobalt gate
guess i'm just overestimating rocket capability
atomic abyss
i mean
if your intention was to shit on mob BBs, then you'd use conv TBs
ironically, that is what we tried in w13 before wyverns and 125, to counter command ships
and yes, it did work better
just that people in that day and age were allergic to the use of conv TBs so it never really caught on
paper walrus
Ok so the guide lists independence in the core data shop as high priority if you...
Oh btw i also got shinano right before quitting purely for her looks. I thought she was added to the standard pool(?) and expected her to be mid but she is placed high in the tierlist. Should i invest in her?
atomic abyss
no UR bulins, no point
paper walrus
I could get those if needed. Does she deserve them?
cobalt rapids
depends on ur other URs but because she can be mlbed with perma pity shes usually not a high prio for bulins
paper walrus
Ok
paper walrus
depends on ur other URs but because she can be mlbed with perma pity shes usuall...
I dont have any
cobalt rapids
compared to gacha URs ofc, from perma shes highest
honest stirrup
I could get those if needed. Does she deserve them?
You can get 4 UR bullins?
cobalt rapids
are u a returning player?
paper walrus
Yes i quit in late 2020 ๐ญ
cobalt gate
did you just miss impetide?
honest stirrup
Implacable? Yes probably then
paper walrus
did you just miss impetide?
Whats that ๐ญ
cobalt gate
not important anymore
paper walrus
I came back yesterday so probably yes
cobalt gate
what was latest ship you got from event?
rocky tinsel
What's the best use for high efficiency combat logistics plans? Also, how frequently do we get them, I feel like I've gotten around 25 since I joined last month.
paper walrus
what was latest ship you got from event?
Bolzano meta just now and shinano and kii before that
cobalt rapids
they are used to save time
undone plover
use them when u dont have time to play the game
they basically only help with time efficiency since it doubles the run rewards at double the cost of oil
early on u can use it in war archive to get 2 clear for 1 key but that is kinda niche
whole stump
if i use clearing mode without auto search will i still get defeat all enemies star?
undone plover
yes if u defeat all the nodes
whole stump
o thank god playing without oil cap milks my shit
cobalt gate
Defeat all mob ships. Have to by hand later on since auto will atk boss when it appears
rocky tinsel
@undone plover when you say early on, are there later noedes in war archive where you can't use one?
cobalt rapids
more as in later on u wont farm wa anymore
rocky tinsel
or just that it doesn't take all that long t oget all the war archive ships
undone plover
I meant early on (before u reach chapter 10-11 of story) since that is really the only time u care about using war archive keys efficiently
undone plover
or just that it doesn't take all that long t oget all the war archive ships
it doesnt double the WA clears
u still need to clear WA 60 times for the guarentee
but early on before u reach oil cap in story or if there is no event u can farm WA for easy access oil cap maps because they dont lock u out due to commander level
and to farm it more u need more keys
using HELP for this purpose is like having double the keys 
cobalt gate
Well since you just returned from 2020 probably retrofit unicorn and start farming opsi if you want to get some stuff before monthly reset and oil probably do 12-4 or 13-1 since we have cap now to get coin and exp. Iโm not sure anything from before really worth 125 though I mean entry still strong but I donโt think you have the equipment
cobalt rapids
their uni is alr rf
paper walrus
Yeah i did it when i saw that they released it and it was good
undone plover
What's the best use for high efficiency combat logistics plans? Also, how freque...
oh about the income unless I am mistaken it should be 10 per week from the free weekly pack and 30 per month from operation siren voucher store
I think sometimes they give it in maintenance mail as well or bug compensation 
but effectively it should be ~70 per month
rocky tinsel
Thank you so very much for the detailed answer. I'm a silly optimizer, so I like to know these things
jaunty vault
chat how are farming the event
are we 4 oiling, 25 oiling or are we 40 oiling
rocky tinsel
Going in my spreadsheet!
sinful escarp
4 if you can, 25 if cant
cobalt rapids
i 20 oiled but i gave up and now im 40 oiling
undone plover
no submarine aff farmers*
jaunty vault
smh zoomers these days
woven star
or just that it doesn't take all that long t oget all the war archive ships
On theory it can double chance drop some ships from WA which depends on drop and not count 60 times. But it's only my guess
cobalt rapids
i mean tbf 15 oil cap is not that crazy considering 12 is 17
jaunty vault
i 20 oiled but i gave up and now im 40 oiling
is ESP better or do you just wanna do fast and bail
jaunty vault
i mean tbf 15 oil cap is not that crazy considering 12 is 17
i thought 12 was 12 and 17 was 17
undone plover
true but I think like cheeky said once it is also about the fact they will 100% fight all the battles whereas on auto ch12 subs will miss some battles
cobalt rapids
is ESP better or do you just wanna do fast and bail
i wanna be fast
slow fox
Where can I see Hornet META raid's skills? I'm interested in her EVARate skill.
cobalt rapids
/aldb hornetmeta
woven star
i wanna be fast
Same.
slow fox
Thank you cooperbot
cobalt rapids
mebot doesnt know larsdb 
stark quiver
slow fox
Or, if you're using the 3 strike comp - it's 42%
undone plover
33% of 3 strike dmg is super nerfed
25% of 4 strike dmg is super nerfed?
or is there more to it
sweet delta
what if im using 5 salvo comp
stark quiver
ill do you one better and use a 13 salvo comp
slow fox
What's the reload of the 5 salvo comp?
atomic abyss
ill do you one better and use a 13 salvo comp
we using tempestas here?
sweet delta
slow fox
Legendary 3 + 4 + 5 salvo comp
If you want my calc to be more accurate, can you give ma a R/S/A of the relative damages that these three deal?
sweet delta
it's 4 + 4.5 + 5
boreal wagon
isnt it technically more bc preloads
slow fox
(for example, Richelieu deals 70% the damage of Alsace salvo-for-salvo)
Otherwise, I'm equalizing their salvo damage
sweet delta
i dont need it anymore, tldr hormet is fat hp
slow fox
27% more eHP if you're using 5 salvo
AKA you're doing better to kill her faster - than the 3 strike CV
boreal wagon
maff
stark quiver
Hornet
slow fox
33% of 3 strike dmg is super nerfed
25% of 4 strike dmg is super nerfed?
or is t...
How do I understand this question
I now understand the question
Yeah, that's all there is to it.
stark quiver
undone plover
basically 3 strike does most dmg in biggest ehp window therefore overall ehp is higher for 3 strike than 4 strike right?
jaunty vault
dork
slow fox
So Suchi's 12 strike does about half its damage in good opportunities
cobalt rapids
so we need to move to either 5 salvo or 4 strike cvs
undone plover
was 4 strike La9 possible?
stark quiver
cobalt rapids
was 4 strike La9 possible?
unicorn can do it
slow fox
And Alpha's superdoublepreload 39 strike does 2/3 of its damage in the first 10 seconds
atomic abyss
CVL LA 9 maybe
undone plover
chen hai and hwah jah's time to shine 
rocky tinsel
Any particularly good items/ships out of War archives a decently new player should farm?
undone plover
define new player
where are u in campaign?
stark quiver
hi can someone link mrlar calculator, i deleted search history on accident
cobalt rapids
divergent chess board for iron blood tech
atomic abyss
stark quiver
thank you
undone plover
alpha what are u cooking 
stark quiver
viscid swift
something we should be very afraid of
rocky tinsel
I am at 10-4
stark quiver
shame we cant +13 autoloaders
undone plover
I am at 10-4
then like neko said if u still dont have enough ironblood tech to start work on agir/FdG go farm divergent chessboard
slow fox
mutsuki
jaunty vault
77s
stark quiver
i forgot stage delay existed, so uvh now fires at 7.2 instead of 5.9
rocky tinsel
That's a great idea, I defeinitely need to pick up ironblood ships for Aegir
viscid swift
hmmm
cobalt rapids
where gascone
cobalt rapids
she has 2 salvos each rld
cobalt rapids
not like bisko and soyuz have prel
atomic abyss
the only benefit is that both shots are aimed
stark quiver
you forgot to equip skins cheeky smh 
viscid swift
I don't have skins...\
slow fox
hmmm
does worse bc damage not frontloaded(???)
I think I'm missing preloads (are there any)
stark quiver
you still forgot to equip skins 
storm heron
you forgot to equip skins cheeky smh <:kekekidnap:1304717871804579890>
15 salvo uvh
viscid swift
there's also the 18 salvo set up
stark quiver
gph really on smth today
atomic abyss
actually sorry cos im dumb
slow fox
there's also the 18 salvo set up
atomic abyss
why DOES more salvos make it better for mornet
cobalt rapids
it doesnt, its shitposting ender 
atomic abyss
umi i will murk you
jaunty vault
ban them all
except umi
slow fox
Suchi's example of BB 5 vs CV 3 is a good example, because 2 of the BB hit when Hornet hasn't ramped up yet.
stark quiver
the purge 
atomic abyss
her eva ramps up?
gomen havent been playing the game properly
slow fox
But CV 3 hits twice when Horney has 18% then 24% EVARate.
So 13 salvo only work when 7 of those 13 hit before 36s or so
stark quiver
she gets more eva? 
cobalt rapids
24%, isnt she capped at 18?
slow fox
OH yeah 18
atomic abyss
uhh
slow fox
recalc for 3 strike
storm heron
atomic abyss
mebot did you break the calc earlier
undone plover
what is her base ehp mebot
slow fox
Base? Without buff at all?
undone plover
yeah just with starting stats alone
atomic abyss
i must say, i find it hilarious that you do this
atomic abyss
Fellas I have a wonderful proposition for enemy eHP benchmark
hmm?
slow fox
Souryuu META of course
atomic abyss
why mouryuu?
slow fox
idklol Jimmy just asked me Hornet META's eHP relative to Souryuu so I assumed he had a good feeling of Souryuu META's eHP.
Is that true for the rest of the vets?
atomic abyss
not really
slow fox
delusiolnal
atomic abyss
how about you chart all the meta's eHPs 
ok not all, i think taking out the extra gimmicky ones would be good
jaunty vault
would still need a base like Portland for vanguard
atomic abyss
so QEM is out
slow fox
Algerie META with 500% of Souryuu's eHP
viscid swift
Renown
atomic abyss
so she's out too
viscid swift
well both would be out really
cobalt rapids
rep was shield ren was charge attack no ?
slow fox
I mean, I probably CAN still calc the gimmicky ones.
atomic abyss
yeah both had some weird gimmick were certain actions fucked you over
slow fox
I calced Laffey II nothing can destroy me
atomic abyss
it's not that mebot, it wouldnt be a fair comparison
slow fox
Z35
atomic abyss
the exercise's point is to find your yard stick
slow fox
noshiro
viscid swift
Rodney also may as well be out
slow fox
jean bart
sweet delta
slow fox
No renown, repulse, algerie, QE
jaunty vault
i think we can strike off Nevada meta
viscid swift
well depending on the fleet it could be closer to infinite
atomic abyss
what did algerie have again
slow fox
Pillar bs
jaunty vault
pillars
slow fox
well depending on the fleet it could be closer to infinite
This is also a concern I'd have when calculating their eHP. Do I assume:
3 CV
4 CV
5 BB
4 BB
Uniform
atomic abyss
i think we can strike off Nevada meta
cooper i will fire you like the poor manjuu's in her sister's skin
slow fox
essex
viscid swift
This is also a concern I'd have when calculating their eHP. Do I assume:
3 CV
4...
tell me what METAs you plan to include and I'll give you a baseline
slow fox
(eHP3 assumes enemy damage uniform)
Hiryuu
Ark Royal
Helena
Souryuu
Gneisenau
Scharnhorst
Arizona
Jintsuu
Kirov
Rodney
Wichita
Nagato
Taihou
Hornet
(no ren rep alg qe)
viscid swift
what was Wichita's gimmick again?
cobalt rapids
chains
sweet delta
Chains
slow fox
chains
sweet delta
Aka vanguard damage ๐
slow fox
No one cares about that
atomic abyss
rodM tho
viscid swift
Kirov I'm also inclinded to strike as well because her eHP also depends on your DPs to a degree how much DPS you bring
slow fox
Stirike out Rodney META too?
sweet delta
What about punching bag Temperance
slow fox
rare Temperance META
cobalt rapids
do u assume taihou summons ?
cobalt rapids
they transfer dmg like alg pillars
viscid swift
yep
slow fox
Would you say that makes her calc unfair?
( would calc the pillars and such just like damage reduction )
viscid swift
in a way yes
slow fox
okay removing Taihou
jaunty vault
slow fox
What is this "Eat Shit and Die" event coming next maintenance
jaunty vault
๐ฉ 
viscid swift
so yeah I wouldn't include
Taiho, Kirov, Renown, Repulse, QE, Algerie, or Rodney
atomic abyss
yep
leave modney in for the sake of it
slow fox
okie dokie fumizukie
atomic abyss
hmm?
glossy granite
Kirov horosho
slow fox
Does that determine our allied damage distribution now
atomic abyss
i'd keep modney in as a wild card
for vg DPS
slow fox
-# 17 CV
glossy granite
Is Sandy best used in Siren and campaign?
cobalt rapids
but bb salvos are random
slow fox
Z23
viscid swift
BBs have random targeting on their 2nd and 3rd salvos
atomic abyss
Is Sandy best used in Siren and campaign?
campaign yes
no particularly good use in opsi cos planes dont exist there
slow fox
So we striking Rodney too?
viscid swift
I would
atomic abyss
let's take it out
cobalt rapids
i wouldnt
glossy granite
campaign yes
no particularly good use in opsi cos planes dont exist there
Yea cuz of that thread yesterday i need new vanguards lol
slow fox
MUTSUKI
sweet delta
Strike hiryuu ark Helena souryuu too because of airplanes reveal 
glossy granite
I will def retrofit her in a few days
cobalt rapids
do u consider now metas with planes that reveal our cvs at certain points aswell then which also change allied dmg distribution ?
atomic abyss
assume they reveal, done
sweet delta
Idek what this is for anyways so bye
viscid swift
do we also want to consider how convenent some of these METAs have stop timers
atomic abyss
for the average player, they will reveal lol
slow fox
do we also want to consider how convenent some of these METAs have stop timers
no movement shall be considered
slow fox
amazon
little tree
atomic abyss
for vanguards? ye probably
high chance you wont have enough tech tho
may need to grab chesh first for HMS tech
cobalt rapids
tbf as long as the assumptions are clearly defined it serves its purpose so up to u
can also assume bbs always hit on target for arg sake
viscid swift
anyway, that should take out all of the gimmick heavy METAs
slow fox
Hiryuu Ark Royal Helena
Souryuu Gneisenau Scharnhorst
Arizona Jintsuu Wichita
Nagato Hornet
glossy granite
for vanguards? ye probably
high chance you wont have enough tech tho
Enough tech to start for Plymouth? I am like 800/900, but in that case my other options would be Napoli and Hindenburg cuz i can start them
jaunty vault
i think we should assume cooper is the best azulene player of time to time
atomic abyss
viscid swift
sure, why not
atomic abyss
this is getting to be as unfunny as the amagi memes a certain someone cant stop making
jaunty vault
slow fox
Will send these calcs using UNIFORM later today
glossy granite
Nah bro the goat KimoCheese ๐ greatest AL player oat
atomic abyss
kimoi cheese
slow fox
Although, since most of these don't have timing dependent eHP buffs, UNIFORM == anything else
glossy granite
Kimoicheese after 1 video he sends you to Chemo
slow fox
Thank you Suchi
eager mulch
heavy halo
I am not hearing the audio for the voice lines of the new Suzuya skin. Anyone know how to fix?
eager mulch
doesnโt have any
zenith pebble
would that be a reportable bug?
eager mulch
no, she just doesnโt have any voice lines
zenith pebble
oh, i thought all ships and skins had va
eager mulch
no
heavy halo
Damn unfortunate
zenith pebble
is it a good idea to farm opsi or would i get more from farming 12-4
weary gust
You do both.
viscid swift
VAs are busy people and sometimes there isn't time to get the lines recorded before a skin is released
eager mulch
^^
atomic abyss
also devs tends to change voicelines a lot before it's voiced
heavy halo
Thatโs understandable, will the lines eventually get recorded?
atomic abyss
probably
zenith pebble
has there been any skin that got va after release?
atomic abyss
many many
it's just rarer now
used to be very common for AL, esp in the earlier days
ships straight up wouldnt have voices
sweet delta
zenith pebble
when was the last time we had a collab?
ivory pawn
November's To Love Ru.
keen sable
has there been any skin that got va after release?
Happens often enough that it's not a surprise
vale spindle
Patch notes always have a voice lines added section when voice lines are added
late flame
b-but reading
rocky tinsel
What does this symbol mean on the operation siren map? I'm here and there's nothing here:
stark quiver
exit and reenter,
its a daily mission
rocky tinsel
Ah kk. there's a teleporter here.
ivory sandal
Alright so I've began the game about 2 days ago and now I'm at 3-2 in the campaign. I have no idea what I should do now. I'm confused if I should do something to change my play style or I should be focusing on particular thing for where I'm at right now in the game
late flame
Alright so I've began the game about 2 days ago and now I'm at 3-2 in the campai...
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/
have you read this?
ivory sandal
No, what is it?
late flame
newbie guide*, among other things
ivory sandal
Finally, I've been trying to look for something like that and I have had no luck what so ever. Thanks a lot
rocky tinsel
I thought I read somewhere that I can craft 2 hour skillbooks into 4 hour skillbooks, is that correct?
sweet delta
Depot
rocky tinsel
do I click on the skill books, or in the crafting menu?
zenith pebble
click on skill book
zenith pebble
in campaign, is the sextruple bofors or twin bofors better
viscid swift
context as always matters
zenith pebble
what kind of information would you like
weary gust
What AA gun you use depends on the ships you're using and the content you're doing.
ivory pawn
Also, which Twin Bofors are you referring to, there's a couple.
zenith pebble
alsace and musashi, trying to see if they can be carried over to w15 and general use. twin 40mm bofors stagg
ivory pawn
For Alsace and Musashi, you'd always want STAAG. Only 2nd to the new EU UR.
Sextuple has high alpha, so only on your best AA ship. Generally don't want too many due to its short range.
sharp socket
Finally, I've been trying to look for something like that and I have had no luck...
if u search "azur lane beginner guide" in google you can find the ecgc easily
zenith pebble
ive been using this
so always use staag, and only sextruple on someone like sandy?
sharp socket
you do have to skip over the bad AI guide but some google literacy would be enough
zenith pebble
and usually my gear should be he based right?
zenith heron
so always use staag, and only sextruple on someone like sandy?
On BBs: EU UR> Staag > Hazemeyer
On AA Carries (Only one per fleet needed): EU UR=>Sextuple> Roomba Gun
I am probably wrong on the 2nd one
soft raft
and usually my gear should be he based right?
wdym
for vanguard guns it rarely matters as much as it does for BB guns
rocky tinsel
For the final slot of retrofit, do you need another copy of the same ship?
weary gust
For the final slot of retrofit, do you need another copy of the same ship?
That or a bulin of equivalent rarity.
zenith pebble
if i dont have wyvern, is the french cuda good?
weary gust
In general gold cuda is decent. For w15 it is subpar.
zenith pebble
or should i save my core data for something else
weary gust
... I don't know what plane you're looking at in core shop and calling a cuda but don't buy any plane with core data.
zenith pebble
was looking at breguet br.810
stark quiver
Breguet mentioned
zenith pebble
rock hellcat until i can get pancake?
weary gust
I suppose? How are you at w15 and can't make a pancake though.
zenith pebble
im on w14 in washington and i moved onto another server because i ran out of oil and ap in opsi
i also dont play opsi, and this month marks my second time on it
polar lion
Not playing Opsi will stunt your acct growth since gearlab mats and gold plates are gated behind them
zenith pebble
yeah, i didnt know any better so now i kind of regret not doing opsi often
next month i should have enough to make some things
stark quiver
You still have 2 days
zenith pebble
how long does it take for ap to get back to 200?
weary gust
1 AP = 10 minutes.
polar lion
U can buy AP with oil if desperate
weary gust
Unless it's every six I am now second guessing myself.
zenith pebble
i ran out of oil too lmao
weary gust
Mail storage.
zenith pebble
oh yeah i forgot about that
weary gust
Also can buy AP crates from the opsi shop if you haven't already.
cobalt gate
And get lucky with merchant
zenith pebble
akashi keeps giving me purple coins
polar lion
U want to buy out all the rainbow Selectors and gold plates at least if that's the last thing u can get since they are the most precious
zenith pebble
max equipment level is 13?
and should you get gear to lv 13 for w15 or are they typically for numbers and efficiency
weary gust
Ideally would want mainfleet gun/planes at +13 but it's not strictly required. W15 the more stuff you have the better, if you're lacking optimal in multiple areas it starts becoming more unreasonable to do.
zenith pebble
i see
nocturne glade
Is harbin gun fine on Fu Shun?
weary gust
Yes
nocturne glade
great, ty!
sullen birch
Hi
Is my teams outdated?
And how is my gear ?
And do you guy's want photo of all my gear ( equipped and non-equipped )
And also photo of my ships ?
weary gust
Ideally make a thread and post screenshots of your dock, sorted by mainfleet and level then vanguard and level. Gear can be addressed after a proper fleet comp is setup.