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5-1 has no oil cap
So where’s that 180 come from though
the oil number is also the amount of oil per sortie
Are you running 2 or 3 auto's? Or the x2 item?
no its per x clears, if you set 3 clears its higher than if you set 1
no
u just put 1 back 1 front and sortie
16+45 = 61
+10 additional oil cost = 71
71*3=213
(I doubt he has only 1 escort fleet to kill)
5-1 should have 4 escort nodes before boss
Ah sorry Hassat, I misunderstood
what are you fighting? I don't recall having any fleet being close from dying outside of a few arbiters that takes 2, maybe 3 fleets to clear at max
Is the estimate basically fleet oil cost * number of ships to kill for boss spawn?
- boss fight + 10 oil, all times number of repeats you select
((Oil cost * # of escort fleet ships) + boss fight cost + 10 oil entry fee * # of runs)
you misplaced the parenthesis
the inner set is around escort fleet + boss fight
The outer ones were fine xd
what?
Estimates, since lower is ships die and higher if using subs
Idk man I'm having a slight brain fart trying to map this in my head instead of writing it down lol
this current version is wrong since you only multiply number of runs to the 10 oil
((Oil cost * # of escort fleet ships) + boss fight cost + 10 oil entry fee) * # of runs
Depends on what you mean by boss fight
I thought boss fight meant the oil that the boss fight costs
There is no doubt there 
yes exactly that's why it's placed in those parenthesis
So these parentheses doesn't make sense
this is only correct if the same fleet fights boss and mobs
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It's not even that complicated why are we having a meltdown
what are we arguing about now
Math
Nothing I'm just waiting for this guy's screenshots
Lars knows math can confirm
i am going insane
not really a meltdown what sam wrote is correct but it assumes the same fleet fights boss and mob or that both the fleets cost the same its just a minor pedantic thing
you’re not nubi anymore?
nubinsane
It's wrong in capped stages yes
also wrong in uncapped stages if your fleets dont cost the same and you use both
duke nubinsanolomeus
nubiquitous
I forgot the boss cap is larger than not boss my bad
Does this get deleted when the event ends or stays around a week?
they get deleted
But event shop stays around a week 
i think all missions get deleted after light rerun since frame points are based on acquisition now and you can't really acquire after event ends unless you save builds
So what should I set my focus too? PR 4?
Only frame point missions stay after a normal event so you have a week to mlb but otherwise everything else goes
the task is tied to the event that ends tomorrow so it yeets itself tomorrow
Quite silly in reruns with 1 week run 
silly missions for a silly guy like me
You're telling me I made this for nothing? 😭
It's even worse cause I'm the one who wrote the oil cap command
brain farts happens to everyone
I finally got her after over 300 wisdom cubes down the drain... Is there any skills I wanna upgrade or do I just prioritise her over my other carriers
How is evasion rate calculated? how much evasion does 6% evasion rate give?
can you mlb her?
6%
6% evasion rate does not give any evasion stat
Anything in here worth getting?
/wiki accuracy
then how does it work?
No wiki pages found.
when u get asked plz answer before adding another question 
/accuracy
Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.
Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.
When I get asked what?
Oh sorry didn't see you, uh I have one UR bulin rn
she’s bad
She’s a Baddie tho
functional with 0 damage which might make avp better
shes literally british
Wdym... Someone told me to get her if I didnt have soyuz or nakh
Bit oversimplified, but just focus on your other good ships until you get enough bulins for her.
non mlb ships are bad
Probably new URs before 4 bullin
I can get 4 more
did u get the ship from construction or drop from b/d3 ?
I got royal alr from construction
Yes, note no NEW
then spend the rest on cog chips arrays and pr7 ur prints
pr7 my prints?
ultra rare
Rerun, PR5 prints
yes pr5 ultra rare prints 
Ah, also I literlly have 50% of my dock as Rare bulins can I just get rid of some since most of the ships I use are mlb and the ones that aren't are too low level to mlb
Can you “save” fleets for hard mode, or do you have to build a fleet each time you play
Uh no i have them "saved"
there aren't rare bulins
there are elite and super rare
which one are u refering to ?
Elite my bad
They are saved for each chapter individually
Like I have A LOT of them
usually u want to mlb all the rare and elite ships before starting to scrap them for tech points}
and the exp books are enough to lvl them to 70
As seen with this rerun. We get 2 year old fleets.
How so? Is there a way to use the fleet builder to build hard mode fleets?
No exp books?
spend them on ships even if u can't raise them to 70
30 is enough
I'm farming them rn but I don't have enough to lb all of them
Plus I'm out of money so I can't grind
Out of oil? You GRIND money.
It only takes ~2 books to reach level 10, and the first break is cheap too.
No I'm maxed on oil 9 times over
Then grind for XP and cash
Again I'm at max capacity with no money
You have to build your fleet for chapter 3 hard. Then it applies to all of chapter 3 hard. But then you have to build your fleet again for chapter 4 hard
Use up some bulin for space, or scrap them
Scrap some then
Or feed scamcat 
play the game
f2p gems are enough to give u a lot of dock space
don't feed the scamcat
yet
I wanna save them for dorm space
if u have 3 slots in the dorm save 500 for the second floor that is it the surplus u can use for the dock and make ur life easier
by playing the game u can manage the dock better too
I alr did that I'm just saving for the last slot
how many slots do u have now ?
How to get this
Buy it
When I open the shop it doesn't show that

That's my friend screenshoot
What does your shop show
Wrong screen
Don't buy it if you can only get your UR ship to 4 stars
A 3 or 4 star UR ship is not worth using
lv 120 shop mentioned?!?
But I need to limit break this new Jersey character
Click "supply"
No, you don't
That’s the premium currency shop. It’s in supply->mothly-> protocore shop.
Look that
one tab to the left
You should not limit break the New Jersey character with UR bulins
You have 23k oil, can't play, and want dorm space...
your priorities are backwards for gph.
Okay, reach lvl 30
Just leave New Jersey on the side for now, trust me
That’s medal one more lower….
Saved by the system
Ok
I will leave her
he got saved by the game
True
Even if he could access proto shop, he certaintly can't buy 4 Bulins and won't be able to use NJ anytime soon
And meanwhile he could get another potentially better/more useful UR
Not really what you want when starting
Or not
She's ok but there's not a lot of reasons to use her
You can't really ask if [x] character is good or not because there's like 700 of them and being good or not depends on your fleet and on your goals
I just wanna beat the chapter so even I can use Sr or ssr ship
when u start u have 1 flexible slot in the backline 
I will beat the chapter
Did you read the newbie guide that was provided to you earlier?
Also in the early stage of game you can just use the ships you like the best and worry about whether ships are good/meta later lol just use the ships you like the most for now 😂
Unicorn doesn't fit this statement
Repeat the previous chapter until you can beat the current chapter.
Fair tbh
Ok man I thought this is like nikke where you chase meta character
Meta characters need heavy investments. They're meta because they can be invested into
this is like epic 7 or arknight where u'd better start with low rarity as base
You're too poor to chase shiny ships still
Meta characters dont matter really till end game, which you are a fair bit from worrying about, just use unicorn and whatever other ships you like for now
~~Poor man got ruined by Nikke
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Okok thanks man
Using whatever ships you like now means it takes longer to get to the point where you can use even more whatever ships you like then
Using at least two meta characters when starting is highly recommended
They should just let me use my normal fleets in hard mode.
I really appreciate for all of you answering and guide me in this game once again thank you so much
And also takes longer to get the gear and arrays and stuff to max out whatever ships you like
Hard mode isn’t even that hard(yet) anyway
I hope I didn't bother you 😭😭😭
Fairey Firefly (Dive Bomber; worse than SB2C Helldiver so you can postpone if you want)
Why is this plane on priority then if its worse than purple helldiver
don't forget that u are in a help channel 
Event limited
Because it's limited and it's not always worse than helldiver
Cause its an event equipment I would assume
Because this is the only place you can get it.
collection purpose ig?
And rarely timing reasons.
Imagine the people who get baited by "triple 460mm is worse than champ gun, flandre gun, etc" and don't have it when it's bis. Which happens surprisingly often
very niche timing i think
Scenario 1: you use whatever you gets your hands on. Either they're SSR but you can't limit break them, or they're really lackluster and you can't progress really far without renewing regularly. Both situations makes you spend a lot of ressources and won't be useful once you get the actual meta
Scenario 2: you get Unicorn and the other "Newbie meta" ships. They're all elite or rare and easy to get, maybe 1 SSR but since it's only 1 you can easily mlb. They are also guaranteed to carry you to early mid-game. Bonus point: Unicorn in particularly will carry you forever and ever
Thats fair, think it really just depends on what the person wants from the game
Yes but understandably, some people prefer live explanation in case they misunderstand something due to language difficulties
Either wait till anniversary for the recap slideshow or you remember the first event/rerun you were present for and look it up on the wiki
ah ok
Anni is in August, btw
True, maybe what I said wasn’t the mostly helpful, mb mb
u can also sort by aquire date and estimate based on ur first event ship
hmm thats very specific
lemme try
i dont even know which one is my event ship
Take a screen and we can tell
What if I retired them
You deserve to wait till August
yeah i retired event limited elites back then, so what
1 fleet enough to clear event sp stage? All lv 110+
Don’t wanna waste the oil to try
depends on the fleet and gear
would rather you run 2 smaller fleets tho
Starter fleet and welfare gear lol
forget it then
👍
You guys think this is ok? Getting tired of re rolling this one
What did it start with
Reload and chief of staff
Then it wasn't worth rerolling in the first place
Especially for a purple. You can get so many chances that you should wait for a cat with good starting talents
At least one of Flame or Wolf, plus a submarine talent for the other
I see. Didnt know they can start with those
Some examples
Wolf + sub rld
Flame + sub officer
Wolf + sub trp
Or Wolf + Flame but idk if that's possible
On paper they can start with any skill of their class type I believe
Gral and edelweiss cannot start with eagle union officer
And probably can't roll it either
Ill be on the lookout for a better starting ed then, right on
whats the best ssr shipyard atm?
Submarine accuracy is not a good talent btw
Several can be considered best in different ways
most useful might be anchorage
Whats shipyard? PR?
i already have anchorage
congratulations
ty realy useful info
how am i supposed to smell what you already have or not? be fr
Personally i hella like Plymouth and hindenburg atm
Plymouth is DR, no?
plymouth is dr yes
Oh yea my bad the question was for ssr
AvP and Ancho should be the "best" for now ...
just ancho
avp kinda cope now
bayard and daisen are amongst the best in their rarity
does aquila preload pair well with unicorn pre-load for fast opsi clearing? what planes do you use for the preloads?
ancho is straight up on the same level as rainbows
ibuki too 
still usable if you don't have implac/nakhimov combo now (nakhimov combo as in nakhi + slower)
Ibuki one of my favorites still. Im sure you got her already tho
what about between pr 5,6,7
Agreed above bay or dai both solid
Halford is the worst of all pr1-7 
if just PR5-7 i'd say shimanto is the best to invest in
ty
Ive used hal but never really paid attention, whats her strength or specialty?
she got owned by a change to how her planes worked
She launches planes that rarely do damage
At least she’s cute 
Ahh i see
it also doesnt help that the other half of her kit was designed to be discount plymouth
Except the buff windows dont sync unless you were using high BB rld 457s
halford best for secretary duties with the skin
and then z52 came out as well
Who should i lb3
and you somehow still knew what he meant 
What's the gimmick of each faction, like what's the thing that each faction is best at
nothing
each faction has a set of stat increase when u reach a certain tech threshold that is it
well the main 4
How do u build her?
Previous event
i think he asking for gears no how actually get her
Ah yeah mb meant gear
There are some things based on historical and fictional ideas.
Example: Japanese ships often have high torpedo stat and low AA
US has more fire power and AA
Royal Navy has ASW and skills
French have special skill mechanics and high speed
Italians have anti torpedo things
Germans have high health
USSR has everything
These are overgeneralised and there are also ships that break faction logic.
Ah oki ty
pretty much basic DD FP Focused iirc
so something like Twin 128, quad mags, 134 double toolbox
Maybe fast torps
yeah, i go check how she works, cuz i dind even read her skills time ago
It said it fires barrage after she torps ,but idk what torps that good and has fast reload
It depends on if the barrage is good enough to be worth sacrificing the DPM difference between the fast reload torps and the quad magnetic torps
But since the quad mag torps do reload quite fast, wouldn't these be enough?
DDs arent my field of speciallity, and i'm not sure if twin french trp is the thing cuz she still get some dmg out of it, unlikely Ancho
In doubt, I'd go for quad magnetic torps
Can't really go wrong with it since at worst case scenario she'd deal slightly less damage than optimal
If you have nothing else, sure, but quintuple reloads slower than quads and quadruple mag are the best, so you'd be losing in both worlds

And increases whole fleet rld and DMG, so assuming you're not using a synced boss main fleet, I'd say faster is better
Do people put healers in all of their Operation Siren fleets?
no
healers can be detrimental when fighting some bosses
not to mention they just don't pump out enough damage
Do your siren fleets automatically heal over time, or do you have to use rest and refit?
Is it better to just get 100% completion on a stage or do I need the stars for smth
use the kits from storage
there's plenty of them for boss fleets
3 starring usually gives out rewards you don't wanna skip on
you only want a healer in your mob fleet where they fight hordes of enemies and pausing to heal wouldn't be so plausible
Thanks
i should mention fleets do not heal over time
You can restore their health at the port, it costs basically nothing
using repair kits costs nothing
and they disappear at the end of the month
whereas coins get converted to vouchers
Well yeah it just takes time
...going to port takes more time
Only if you want to die
You know what's even faster. Fleet redeploy.
…closing the game is more instant…
I need help with the game. Im a returning player and I haven’t played this game for 2 years and I need to update myself with what’s new and events and get suggestion on what to use. Could someone help me with this?
I would appreciate if it’s on DMs
Grind event

I’m just pretty much lost in the game a bit, but ill do events and whatever I see important
implacable banner ends today
try and grab the tickets from event and missions and use it on her banner
if u have cubes it is worth trying for her, but if u are low on cubes then save for May
Alr, I have 100 so I guess is enough
Two years means they might have her already
mob uses unicorn or percy if u had her levelled
if u want specific help make a thread post your dock
use tickets first
Used then just now, didn’t got her
did u grab all of them? from milestone and shop as well?
Ya, I got 4 in total for free
there is 44
I see, I have to do quest today asap
there is time to get them all if u grind
there is less than 44 now
oh does the 3 day login not apply retroactivally?
no
or wait nvm there is daily missions u are right
it should be both
I always used random ships, only one UR from retrofit, and I never knew what’s good to use, so can I have help with that lastly?
yeah like I said make a thread and post your dock
should i farm stage B1 for event currency if its the highest stage i can clear?
yes
Which of the two do I wanna prioritise getting
DR
Best applications of the US UR AA gun?
i think its general use
PR5 can be coined now so the prints lose a lot of value (as opposed to DR5 which can't be coined)
wait if u can coin them should i sac my bps into the prototype shop
is this formation okay?
should i pull scylla, argus or save? im lvl 29 with 100 wisdom cubes
if you need to sure
In the dorm, if you have the +xp bonus from the elite food, does that make you eat faster? Or more exp for same amount of time?
latter
more ships would make you eat faster but eating faster is not linear to no. of ships
looks fine for now
portland should be in slot one
save, you got the most important unit anyway
vanguard order left to right should be portland, helena, laffey
no?
I would skip and save for upcoming banners
yes?
ah ok we sayin the same thing
also consider swapping implacable out for a ship that you can limit break easily, i'm not quite sure how the UR bulin income will be for a new player
enterprise (if you can get her from the shop or beginner rewards) and maybe saratoga would be good replacements in case getting bulins takes too long
thanks
what is this for? hornet?
its a heavy armor boss fleet
probably for ops
im still tryna figure out later leveling fleetbuilding
like 4/10
implacable is too fast
I have 6ish rainbow bulins, should priority for them be imp>raf>the rest?
replace the fairey firefly with a converging TB
implacable > raffa > save for may in my opinion
ill test this i was thinking about this but i dont have the ju 88 crafted
kk thanks
late may or mid may
should it be like this?
do that then
red is not bad
it just means she is being pushed a bit in each strike due to jamming
u shouldnt worry about it
red time doesnt mean u should change it 
if anything red means the sync is tight therefore good
might help to do some closer reading
cheeky 

😭 ok im so far along in this game and legit my entire account is cursed
yesterday i didnt even know what armor was so some of my ships had 3 different plane armor types on them
if u want to learn check wiki or ask here
there is no shame
the game does not explain combat mechanics very well
I learned things 3-4 years after I started
yea ive read most of it and asked around but some stuff now that i understand it is very cursed
the basics of fleet building makes sense once u get the hang of it
and can be pretty neat
just takes time
BB is usually easier to build
since most meta BB especially the UR have similar timing
so just give them similar guns and they sync fine for bosses
unforunately 2 of the 3 urs im missing is zwei and soyuz
gearing bbs is far less of a headache since it's much simpler
any 3 UR BB is fine
vanguard musashi and alsace is in top 5
why are we warblanking
I think he means warspite is UR and not as good as the rest which is fair 
she is an honorary UR tho 

I think it's pretty obvious at this point when we say UR BBs we don't include Warspite in that mix
obvious to us
for new players? not so much
I mean a simple look at ECTL or Suchi's guide would make that pretty obvious
Is Drake included in UR CAs
true but that would imply reading
probably not at this point
~~wait for augment
~~
but there's so much less competition in that category
we're still coping for Monarch aug lamo
they are releasing a new batch of augs next week but I'm not getting my hopes up
ah ok
FS10 for DR ships

Hello guys, new player here. Kinda need help with my fleet. I have also Scylla, Taihou and Charybdis. What to replace and focus on, since EXP and other leveling resources seems to be a very rare material 🥹
Also sorry for JP client. Joined here just to ask for help.
monarch superheal
- Limit break any ship you're going to be using. In other words, drop Strasser, and mlb/retrofit Unicorn ASAP. Use gold bullins on Royal Oak as you get them.
- Tank position is the left side, move Portland there. Limit break/retrofit Portland.
- How many gold bulins do you have atm?
I have one gold bulin. I spent some on Royal Oak.
Who am I replacing Strasser with?
Make a thread and post your dock so we can see what ships you have.
I'd say drop Pompeo too but she's one of your highest level ships and you've spent the most bullins on her already.
Hello guys, new player here. Kinda need
does any1 got a one shot comp for hornet meta?
i only have 2 LA-9
Read the whole thing
Scylla worth mass pulling for vanguard in a cv fleet? only thing on the banner i don't have
No
she has bad tech and isnt used anywhere so no
But she is worth if you want her and that 100% collection
actually i think one thing she has is that she is an alright AA carry, but there is no shortage of those so dont bother
was just wondering if that small increased cv damage was worth, so ill just hold onto cubes then
scylla not really, but if you dont have implac its worth it to pull until last minute to get her
nah, had her since prior banner
ahh then i dont, new event later today
she is worse than using sirius or an ARA unit
Should i develop Hindenburg or Brest next?
I already made Friedrich and just finished Agir
Anchorage
When you get a random attack, is there any reason you would push attack instead of evade?
masochism
Haha. The battle should not cost oil or something.
it's quite easy to just not have to deal with ambushes nowadays by raising the recon value of your fleet
Pompeo is in light build pool rn?
tbh i thought they removed the random attack function. because at some point i never had a problem with it showing up randomly
yes
Nice. So how does the secrets rerun?
I don't have enough Eagle Union points
Anyone from Iron Blood or Iris Libre?
whenever they feel like it tbh
got Implacable or AvP?
I got Implacable
Actually if helps
Those are all my Ultras and SRs
may as well go for AvP then, also don't spread your bullins around like that in future
August Von Parseval
August von Parseval. A PR ship with a stop-skill, but only reliable at fs5.
Thanks
Hey I have 16k of the event points, what should I use it on? Didn’t pull royal oak but wasn’t sure if I should spend half on her
In what date do you usually get the datamine of next event? Within Maintenance?
around the time maintenance starts
Build tickets if you havent already > The event shop gear > Royal Oak if you didnt get her to drop > everything else as required
ill trade u 2 yorktown 2s for zwei
Thanks so even if I’m only missing Argus after acquiring royal oak with points it’s still worth getting tickets?
yea
to get bps
lol
I love my Bismarck Zwei
Whats an easy main fleet ship from the Sakura empire go get? Need one more for the 10/10 for Izumo
her soyuz and guam
check the medal and guild shops
i think guild shop only has shouhou who you might have gotten from a map drop already
hi im dying to the boss on 9-4 rn and idk what else i can do to get stronger could anyone help me out
More levels on ships/gear, better ships/gear, retrofits if you haven't yet. Since you're on w9, farming 9-1 for a little while can give you a quick boost in EXP and coin.
We can also check out your current fleet. If it's a bit rough, we can provide suggestions.
could i show you my team real quick
That's honestly better than I was expecting to see. Likely a gear issue if not just underleveled (is that your only fleet atm)?
Yeah its my only fleet
Can't quite tell, is Uni retrofitted?
no
For that matter is Saratoga retrofitted? If neither of them are that explains it.
then its more of a gearing problem
i dont have saratoga retrofit but i have unicorn half way
Yeah retrofit unicorn first.
uni has higher priority just gonna say it
Pretty sure that Saratoga isn't retro either. Imo, Uni retro alone would be a huge boost.
Run x-4 maps on hardmode each day for carrier blueprints.
yeah i just found that out yesterday so im starting to do that now
also check on the guild shop, they sometimes get purple and gold retro prints
So yeah im just missing the materials to retrofit unicorn so am i just stuck rn?
surely retrofitting unicorn shouldn't be the only thing to do in the game
overleveling is still possible at the point you are at
what does your gear look like?
oh cardslinger wsg
Should also mention operation siren is something you should be starting on. (If you haven't already)
i have all my skills on all characters above lvl 5 and i got all purple gear on my whole fleet
purple doesnt necessarily mean good, and are they enhanced?
Yeah i have them all at lvl 6
on that note, gold doesnt mean they are good too
some purple gears are a better option than gold ones
That's not what he meant. The "Enhance" option you see on the ship in dock.
Could be higher, but show us the gear first. Actually, hell, make a thread at this point.
no i was asking about the gear levels actually
+6 would be fine assuming no weird guns/planes
+6 sounds low for w9
yes but at this point better to conserve purple plates until you are sure the gear youre enhancing is worth it
That's why he shows us the gear in a thread, so he could boost some of the more useful guns/planes to +8. Maybe +10 for mk6/Helldiver.
Do i post the gear here?
In a thread. Can make one by clicking this icon, top right if on PC.
kev gear
It seems Ibuki does more damage than Unzen? right?
I don't know what cruddy gear you have on your Unzen.
if youre only counting the damage in the first 5 seconds of the fight maybe
Is your Unzen even at mlb?
Ibuki has more torp stats and eff and with her augment i guess she edges unzen?
Or why is Unzen stronger than Ibuki?
skills, and she is also half gun boat too. tankier. dps stronger too.
You're missing skills, and that Unzen has 2x the number of mainguns.
among other things because Unzen has main gun mount +1 giving her quite respectiable gun damage and 2 torp salvos everytime she reloads
Oh, right, thats what i was missing then
the torp mounts
not quite
Not mounts. Skills. They both have 2 torp mounts.
wrong as well, she gets it from limit breaks
-# also wrong she gets it from a SECOND torpedo equipment in her 4th slot
Oxytorp ftw
wiki says she has torp mount
what's gold's hard cap?
600k
hmmm so 436k is a decent amount. ye?
should be "safe" to use the gold on limit breaks?
You should ideally always stay under softcap so you can get maximum gold income.
300k is enough to get 200 pulls from UR banner. Any more is pointless.
There's no reason you need to do 200 builds in one day, unless you have only that 1 day to play for the entire event duration. Any other argument for doing all the builds in one day is laziness.
my argument is I'm an impatient f*ck with a need to flex
I've found that the coin income you get is far too much that you end up accumulating over softcap anyways.
what about the thrill of getting it day one
I've played this game every day for ~5 years and I've always stayed under the softcap. There are things to spend it on always.
it is a game, after all
On the last day of AmagiCV, I rolled all my cubes and spent basically 600k coins, so there's 1 day for ya
I'd rather sink my coins into the military cat gambling complex
still might be the craiziest thing I've scene anyone do
Cat rerolls are the last resort but they're still a resort.
Cats, augments, or equips?
I just went from 600k to like 200k building augments, and I'm out of the augment enhancing materials.
Gear lab, augments, cognitive awakening, cats, shop purchases (especially gear skins during events), builds
Newer players there's limit breaks and PR/DR and retrofitting too.
I don't see the need to worry about coin soft cap tbh
me anyway
I don't care about gear skins
awakenings I'm being bottleknecked by cog chips
I have little need for any more gear from the lab or unique augments
Same
Coin income is far too much anyways, on top of that.
I need reliable consistent coin dumpster
Optimally you'd stay below softcap. It isn't necessary by any means, especially if you are a minimalist.
Bottleneck becomes the other resources of everything else - or dev timeline.
There's no need to worry about soft cap imo 
They need to remove hardcap
Once you basically have everything sure. For players still progressing staying above softcap for a long time will add up and hurt them.
well no one was arguing that were they
Hmm. I went above softcap quite a few times back when I didn't have the ships-and-ships and so.
this wasn't about new players
Early/mid players are truly blessed with coin 
I only go above soft cap when an event is near
U guys went above soft cap? What about natgen coins?
Early game players have way too many expenses to be casually over soft cap
My coin refinery has been sitting at max for like 2 years now 😭
I don't care about that enough to sack my ability to go all in day one of events
I'm a tech farmer I end up making way more than the canteen could ever provide
How far are u guys with 120ing all ships?
I'm at over 410 ships
Over 450 ships
over 2000 ships
with another 70 or so with the XP to get to 120
Wait Belfast dude, I thot you are above 500 already?
nah, we all know mebot is sceretly a casual
Im on 572
i thought mebot was a mathematician
if you count the ships with XP banked in them yeah
336 or so
day ruined
I wish you could store coin in the bank 
bank of Azur lane
Oh u got bottlenecked by chips. Maybe das y I jumped to 13-1 b4 coz now I felt I'm starting to net negative on my chips income after jumping to 12-1
Oh yeah I destroyed my bank rolling for Amagi CV as well

I would accept a 1:3 loss just to store oil/coin
About 420.
I have thought about that but I'm prioritzing tech first and foremost so my needs are satisfied for now
My chip income is positive - does that mean I'm not levelling my ships fast enough
yes
That's horrendous
-# I really AM a secret casual
not so secret anymore
mfer sending half his dock smh
thread smh
not even half
Okay Belfast guy
where is the amagi-chan
way further down
Elites are far into the depths
When a lot of the clean up are DD 
im going to bed 
I run fleets with maxed backlines. Elite CL with 2 DD's. Everything else is already maxed.
I mean all main fleet ships get maxed way before vanguard.
I'm at 407 me filthy casual with no banked in xp grills smh
Offering to trade
I get rudders you get chips
At some point you run out of CA's and CL's so start using double DD fleets
deal
I've been running triple DD fleets fairly often. I haven't maxed all CAs though, I just try to not have only the DDs left by the end lol.
Mullany Kimberly and Bulin, of course
Doesn't matter if it's bad, the only garbage ships not strong enough to survive leveling in w12 are the purple china ships under level 115.
I put CL, DD, DD coz some DD just explodes when on tanking pos
By the time you get to triple BAD DD, you'd have enough exp packs and dorm time to start them at level 100
eHP mentioned
what counts as a "bad DD" here
I don't have a ship in my dock under level 95 anymore, except the brand newest of the new for 20 seconds.
(and bulins)
rare/elite maybe
Because my main tank looks something like this these days
-# Yuugure mentioend <3
Do you swap gear? I just give them new ones...
I don't even put gear on them 😭
That is why they are dying.
Yeah because I'm not that wasteful with mats
They're not though
Nor am I a fleet power farmer
"waste" as if you don't have 500k coins and 20k purple plates and 5k opsi mats of each type.
If I did do that that would go down very quickly especially working through the back log of ships
And I like to remain adaptable
I keep a good stockpile of mats and gear most of my ships with new gear as needed.
I'm saving the OpSi mats for when they let me convert it all into URudder
There's a difference between spending extra materials and waste.
As long as you still have resources its not a bad thing to use them
If I did that for every ship it would become wasteful aa demand would quickly over take supply
Hoarde mentality. Me can't understand
Besides, for leveling ships I try to give them the best I can
So you stop when you get below the threshold that is reasonable to stay at. You don't need to hoard, and you don't need to be wasteful.
And as you can imagine I can't afford hundreds of 76mms
Not like I have that much spare in the grand scheme of things anyway
Me neither
I've been meaning to get a billion 76mm for my DDs
But I wanted to make sure that I'm being mindful between barrage DD and not-barrage DD
I haven't found a comprehensive list so far.
What stage are you farming that drops those? I've only got 225 of them.
how do you only have 200
Idk. I farm 12-4 99% of the time.
I have 140
I only have 199
i have like 390
I have 348. I dun rmb wer we get these either
~160... casual
when did we get Hiei META ? was it as event or what? some how i don't have her limit break dupes
Cruise pass at some point Guess it was Amagi event.
Amagi CV event
was farmable ?
are there any common ships worth retrofitting?
hmmmm. looks like lady didn't give me dupes . and i didn't notice
no other way to get dupes ?
Not for new players
k, thanks
Is that a real k ? kk
Are they not in META shop?
Where did you get 14pt k in gph
How many days left before the rerun ends, Is it still possible to atleast get royal oak in the exchange shop?
Today is the last day
ends in about 5hrs
Omaygah
You have 5 hours
As for whether it's possible
Depends on how much you grind
oh she's there
The shop ends in 7 days
5 hours for 8k points should still be possible if you can do the SP/D3 stages.
u have 5 hours
Run each stage once for the bonus reward then farm d3 for the rest.
spam D3 with double reward thing . and u need few teams cuz morale gonna be an issue
bright side, it's possible to catch good rng. Royal Oak drops from D3 if you're lucky
there's that too
so while you're grinding there for points, you might luck out!
Thnx for advice! Luv u all
At what point does the "Midgame" or "endgame" start. I'm commander level 65 with a few awakened shipgirls, haven't started focusing on gear yet, and am on world 8. Am I "behind", or where I should be. I play pretty casually, and haven't really been playing the story much, just auto farming a few random stages a day, doing events, and trying to make sense of everything.
I guess midgame starts at around w12 and endgame is after w15
I'd consider midgame once you get to oilcap worlds, endgame being w14+.
Endgame is world 15.
meh, depends on your own definition of what end game is
But you're not too far behind, you only just unlocked w9. I'd recommend trying to beat it, it's your first oilcap world which is a great spot to farm.
CM/Harbiter/W14/W15 are endgame imo. They're the things casual players really struggle with or never do.
What commander level/shipgirl level do people reach w12 at? I’m worried I’m either over or underleveled.
Commander level req is like 80? Ship level needed is 110+.
I wouldn't worry about that so much as just getting there
Id say endgame is when you mix and match the most meta teams to fight challenge mode, META ships and EX battles.
after all, whether you're ahead or behind the curve doesn't really change your course of action
Good point. Just wondering if taking it slow would harm me in the long run somehow
well it's your own game but reaching W12 sooner will only benefit you
How do I focus PR to get good blueprints? I’m focusing it on PR1 to finish Roon, but have been told that you should focus on Pr4 for BPs
You should not focus on PR1 or PR4 as both of those can be coined now.
The research system confused me
How so?
when you unlock the ships you can enhance them directly with coins
Thanks
I've been playing this game on and off for like 5 years or so, I began playing just before the 2nd anniversary, but I always end up burned out trying to burn off all the excess oil I have. I finally managed to take it back into the 6k area, I'm just lvl 60 so the cap is about 6800, but I've had it up to like 20k plus permanently for years, which is what made the idea of playing a little daunting, as every time I tried I only ended up drowning in more oil. Eitherway I've finally managed to take it back to a reasonable level.
With the backstory out of the way I feel like I have a long backlog of stuff to do, so the question is what should I do first?
I have dozens of ship girls falling behind, think like lvl 1 - 10, (eg girls from the Atelier Ryza colab, Katsuragi, etc) from the times I've popped out, built some shipgirls and left. I have barely any gear, but I have a couple hundred tech boxes combining t4 and t5. And I have no idea what to do with all the freaking cats I have.
build a good fleet or 2 and push to chapter 12
that should be your main objective, also don't worry about remaining above the soft cap for oil too much early game
you can start by giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
are the META barrage damage 30days after META showdown release is fixed (say it deals like 100k in the 31st day in all meta showdowns)??
the support barrage only activates about a month in and gradually increases over the course of a month iirc
but it has the same support barrage damage cap in all meta raids?
or varies in raid max hp?
Shd be a %age
wtf
Why would one use long range AA guns? Is it better in any way than a 360° gun? Debating getting the USS UR AA gun and I'm not sure who I'd use it with
Thank you! Also what should I do with the bajillion bullins using up all my dock space? should I just scrap must of them?
you mean time fuze? none what so ever, they're garbage
pretty sure uss UR aa gun commonly used by BB
well preferably use them to limit break your ships
Gotcha, thank you
the 76mm is good but it's not the highest priority for UR design plans from the gear lab
whom should i mlb?
that all of your URs?
prolly nakimov or fritz
Rumey > Yk2 > NJ > Kronstadht
you cant use UR Bullins on Nakhimov since she's a research ship
yea i realized
also
should i buy a core data pirate squad fighter for my carries
i have little fighters i can use rn and i think i can craft a max of 1 flapjack
But it's a good idea to MLB nakhimov
when is maintenance?
Use any gold 2x500 lb fighter for campaign, they're not much worse
alright
I'm so lucky that this upcoming event drops Rudder in SP4. And has Rudder BP at 10k 20k 30k 40k points
Datamine starting to come out?
-# No, that was misinformation
I choose to believe it was just predicting the future. 
How do I get steam catapults?
Research, tech boxes. Mostly tech boxes.
Those golden tech boxes are rigged, how do i open 10 at once and not a single SSR gear when its 15%?
From everyone's advice, I decided to focus on this one fleet
This has a 19.68% chance of happening.
So i got unlucky lucky
Happens
Good vanguard ship positioning! Tallinn good tank.
Fuck man im so cooked, i only have 5 steam catapults and i need 6 😭 and on research its 13/15
You can also grind the Warchives for them.
Look for Fallen Wings D3. Ink-Stained Steel Sakura D2.
leaks yet?
The tierlist has been helping me a lot as well as community advice
who told you to pick those ships
The tier list apparently
Personal choice, I hope it isn't bad
unless you have 18 gold bulin sitting around, those picks are horrendous
the main issue is that you're using ships that aren't MLB
I do have about 18 I think
🧎🏼♂️ sheesh ok
What else should I include so it isn't as bad
I mean it'll function for a while before you have to change things drasticially
switching Sandy, and Franny's position would be better though 
as long as your coin bank can keep up, it's fine
Do opsi heavy bosses move enough to warrant the use of a slow?
While using Haku + Shina
Depends if you kill the boss within 1 strike
40 seconds
Speaking of normal and hard heavy arbiter
So the boss moves a lot if the fight lasts more than 40s?
it just means you're not stronk enough if it last for more than 1 strike
I just want to know if i need to use implacable or ark royal while fighting hard arbiter heavy boss
it's just simpler 
if you have implac why would you not use her she makes things easier to hit = easier to kill
Because there is another fleet that i know needs her, kearsarge + york II because i use them against light armour
Thank you :)
you can always swap her out when the boss is heavy
it's like 1 armor type per month it shouldn't be that hard
I mean, i just wanted to know if the heavy arbiter moves enough, ty for the help anw

Is August von good?
Parseval yes
there is likely not going to be a datamine today unless something drastic happens
🙏🏽
Unfortunately I can't buy agir so ig August is fine 😭
They’re different
what does datamine even reveal?
ship stats gear stats etc
Of course, different roles and su h
ohh for the new ships coming out today or ones even further in the future
New ships coming out today
The game devs are too secretive with new releases
New event releases tomorrow?
after maintenance later
Though if i was to buy, marco or august? 🤔
wdym buy?
August always
That pry 4 pack
Marco isn’t good
Yea Hella of a waste Sadly
then don't get it 
are lucky bags actually good value?
personally 
the gems are nice tho
if you get lucky then yes it's worth af if not then unlucky go next
unfortunately due to nagami being out its likely that we can't get a datamine unless someone can give us a link to the nga one so i can translate off of it
🙏🏽
can u use a skin as secretary without owning the ship? lol
no
:(
theres project identity skins you can use but those are related to project identity and are separate from actual ship skins
will this next event have free pulls too?
no build tickets, those are only for reruns
are there any new ships with this event? haven't played enough to tell lol
with the upcoming event? check #game-news
its a new event so all of them
wait rlly, i swear i have a suzuya
that's a skin
ahh brain fart
What class is Santa Fe?
Do we have a datamine yet?
Who to replace with implacable?
Ok according to tags, she is Santa Fe class and not Cleveland class
For what content?
pretty good 2 CV Avi, 1 CL FP, 1 DD AA, 1 BB RLD
For opsi
Santa Fe uses standard flares
I'd replace Independence
that surely has to be a mistake
also as to be expected
But you probably want to make a full CV fleet to make sure the timings sync up. I don't know if you'll be able to get Bisco slow enough
huh
For cube research are there higher dr drop chances/quantity for the higher tiers or do i stick with blue tier
All three event ships have burn-related skills
franklin gives 2 avi or there are 2 carriers?
How many cubes do you have?
the former
nice
she's an Essex after all
trying to ohko harbi with mamagi nano implac what's the best tank for the job should I just go run it down with unzen
400
Then you don't want to be doing cube research
Im doing cube research whether its a bad idea or not 
well if you're already behind on La-9 prints cubing will only put you further behind
do you want the skin
its uh… cubing for kears
thats even worse
you know for just DRs cubing is worse than face researches right?
you cube to get the Prs out of the way to get more DR faces

should've done some research first 
that's even worse since gem to cube ratio sucks
is it a valid strategy to repeat the hard mode without killing the boss so you can farm lower rarity retro prints? since if you kill the boss, you only get 3 tries per day
well no becase you only get retrofit BPs as drops from the boss
Retro prints ONLY come from the boss
oh, thanks didnt know that
anyone got the link for the timing calc
been ages since I used it I can't find it anymore 
from CN @vale spindle https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1048859334739492872?spm_id_from=333.1387.0.0
3new ships+1 meta
why do I see ghost ping
so for jin meta i'm missing like 20k damage for non helena build, and for helena build i need like 2 activations, anything to do to improve?
now i look like a lunatic talking to myself 
.>
+13 gear, pray
saving plates for la 9
would upgrading from stag to new rainbow aa help much?
for fritz
maybe
it's more AA, and more hit. only better
but if vanguard decides to shit the bed and let the planes slip by it's all the same either way
does jin even have planes?
5 more hit
thats like 1% dmg increase right
idk
Who let Blue Fleuret in
oh another flare user
Good for low vanguard pressure

wait ... these seem meh even for sr standard
The flare trigger at 10s/30s/50s and so on right?
only 10 sec one guarnteed reading it then its pretty chance based
I'm not sure why Santa Fe is her own class; she should just be anothe Cleveland
Has to be a mistake
same to why Zuihou and Shouhou is not in the same class
oh the +1 reload for bb is good
is it?
Would be better if +1 HP
+1 BB EVA when
wasn't zuihou the last sp event we got not counting tempest ships?
question my fellow ship collectors, if i use my +10 f4u to make a flap jack for implacable will it be +10 after the craft
🐦
It will be +0, and you get 100% of plates and 25% of coins you spent on enhancing the f4u Corsair
it will be 0 you get all plates back and 25% gold
It will be +0. You get all of the plates back, and then 25% of the gold back.
How do you know the plates come before the coins?
~~mebot spreading Misinformation ~~
Comes first in the UI when it "rewards" you your refund
What's the max effective comfort again? 350 something?
how is ddg in backrow? is it like an elite bb?
They're really meh on backrow, tho idk about TY and FS
any tips for EX?
eldrige retro and follow the prompt to dodge atk, make sure to read if you want to break shield or not, and i think double damage while shield broken
#media-content message
follow this dodge pattern
What level should my fleet be in relation to the enemy? Are there penalties for over leveling like in some RPGs?
the higher the better, there is no penalty
thatll work with decent gearinhg
ah ok finished the EX. thanks for the help 
What’s the best way to get decent gear?
opsi
tech boxes
gearing out B.zwei, end goal is her on my bossing fleet. It is showing triple 406 is good for timed volleys, can i get away with it on auto will it make or break me
that's pretty much what you do use on her on med/heavy
ty
this is ok build for fritz right? no La-9 and no second HVAR
thanks
for light armor
For what content is this for?
yeah just light armor only
why that gun 😭
and no +10 catas
light or mid
use a AA gun with hit stat
HVAR bad gainst med
i just started, limited resource lowkey
yeah i just ran out of gold
oh well
when you're new bad gear is to be expected but you can get better alternatives iirc than that gun
this is the options i have currently
looks like the only way i can craft that 406 is by doing war achives :/
go do opsi
i just did
don't touch archives
not you 
are you using kear and fritz together?
i dont have the prerequiste gun and wiki shows it only drops in iris WA
its with NJ currently
if not give fritz the stagg
should I rush the new AA UR thing
you get 406mle from print shop i forgor mb
print? proto?
get em here
lol i would be sold out of proto 3s
get 3 then you'll be set for a long time
that's a great priority buy and guides do say that or used too I dunno I'm washed
oh series 5 has it
is that the one chamgpange use?
no don't
wait nvrm its for cb
just go do 1 a month no rush
yes it is champy gun that is the nickname




