gameplay-help

[worldly pewter]

sandy on sexy but u need range offset and roomba is very slow
that is why we usually recommend the italiano 90mm

[zinc hornet]

oh man too many AA guns

[timid beacon]

get far enough in the game and yeah you end up with a lot to manage

you get used to it though, build towards things

[sharp socket]

AA carry with sextuple + twin 90mm for other vg is how i do it

replace twin 90 with twin 76/iris AA when you can

[stark quiver]

Or just copy someone’s homework

[worldly pewter]

i think u used brest so u should have at least crafted a 57mm right

[stark quiver]

It doesn’t really matter tbh

[sharp socket]

i have a 57mm and a single 138.6

[zinc hornet]

yeah i still need to copy someone's homework for hornet meta because i haven't changed my fleet from taihou and I'm doing 60% less damage

[worn quest]

can someone help me with this please

[rocky tinsel]

Do not all ships have affinity mission trees with rewards? I maxed out Kii, and there's nothing

[sharp socket]

well the boss has 20% less total hp so don't worry about lower damage

[stark quiver]

Not all

[zinc hornet]

i didn't even know these were a thing until i set leonardo as a secretary

like 2 months ago

i think there's a list of ships that have those missions

might even be in game

[timid oar]

Nah not all, Some yeah.

[rocky tinsel]

kk, darn. I should have done those first. Another source of retro prints if nothing else

[regal lodge]

Probably stupid question, but how can I farm a T3 general part?

[undone plover]

the purple ones?
high enough event stage + map should give them
u should normally farm D maps and ch12 so u will get them with time
early on aux parts are an issue
there is also selector purple plates (the ones that say ALL)
make sure u use them when u need em

[molten solstice]

Yoooo

Um,is Odin any good?

[fast frigate]

how do i earn tech points

[stark quiver]

obtain , mlb, lvl120 ships

[stark quiver]

meh

[fast frigate]

obtain from where

[stark quiver]

just obtaining a ship

[molten solstice]

Is she good for single player at least?To use her for opsi and stuff

[stark quiver]

not rly

[molten solstice]

Rip Odin

What about august?

[stark quiver]

shes good as a stopper for cvs

[molten solstice]

Stopper?

[stark quiver]

her skill/kit
when she fires, she freezes the enemy, so your other cv torps can land

[molten solstice]

Oh damn

Thank you very much for the help

[rocky tinsel]

What's the secret to murdering a laffey in Exercise? Tons of hit?

[molten solstice]

Uh may i ask for hinderburg too now that tou are here,is she worth trying to develop?

[stark quiver]

shes honestly kinda niche, and not used a lot in current meta fleets
and id use the time to do pr7

[stark quiver]

using your own laffey2
and yes just shoot her a lot

[rocky tinsel]

I mean, I have a pretty beefy laffy

[rigid onyx]

laffii?

[molten solstice]

Thank youuuuu

[rocky tinsel]

What from the event shop after Royal oak is most nifty to pick up?

[stark quiver]

its in pinned messages

[rocky tinsel]

ty

[glossy granite]

pr7? Tho the only great ships are like Nakhimov and could argue for Napoli

[rocky tinsel]

Oh awesome. got a nelson doing b-3

[glossy granite]

But it sounds strange for me, that Hindeburg is not used all that

[stark quiver]

la9 also

[rocky tinsel]

Does it use more fuel to do repeat sortie than it does manually doing the mission yourself?

[ivory pawn]

Sometimes, but not enough to matter.

[timid beacon]

Bayard is also an excellent ship, for her barrage

[stark quiver]

oil cap

[ivory pawn]

Sometimes the auto will have to do an extra fight to reach the boss that you could've avoided if you did it manually, but it's rare enough who cares.

[rocky tinsel]

As in, it uses the oil cap regardless of the true number?

[stark quiver]

its more xp too, im all for it

[rocky tinsel]

I am curious as to how it applies in the event. I don't think the event has an oil cap.

[stark quiver]

if you manual without clearing mode than no oilcap

[stark quiver]

D stages do

[rocky tinsel]

Gotcha

[ivory pawn]

Pretty sure oilcap applies regardless of if you autosearch or manual, you just need to be in Clearing Mode.

[zinc hornet]

would fdg,uni,independence - Z52,Sandy,Yuudachi be about to survive OpSi strongholds? or will i need Ancho,sandy,Z52?

I'm just trying to build a fleet that can clear every OpSi map as quickly as possible

[weary gust]

that'll work for most things but it'll die sometimes on strongholds. Mainly because FdG will be weak against heavier armors, and there are better options than Sandy/Yuudachi.

[zinc hornet]

would musashi be better than fdg there?

[weary gust]

Yes

[zinc hornet]

do i have anything that would do better than sandy/yuudachi?

[weary gust]

I forget which of the DDGs is the best by themselves but any one of them is pretty much a direct upgrade.

[zinc hornet]

An Shan

[forest palm]

Tai and An are soloists

[weary gust]

Sandy ideally would be replaced by someone like Laf2

[sharp socket]

fu shun is the new best one iirc

[zinc hornet]

i don't have Tai retrod

[weary gust]

Eldridge maybe instead of Sandy.

[sharp socket]

sandy is good, she shoots planes and does damage

[zinc hornet]

gotta wait until next year for that :/

[weary gust]

AA isn't a concern in opsi

[sharp socket]

eld can go into a cv fleet

i live all strongholds with ancho tai yuan sandy

[zinc hornet]

I'm trying to keep my boss fleet of vanguard/amagi(cv)/shinano in tact but if i were to take amagi into this fleet over independence, would that be better?

[sharp socket]

indep is better for mob

[weary gust]

Overkill and slower for mobbing.

[sharp socket]

because fast, and also dont need that much power for mobbing

[weary gust]

My current opsi mob fleet is Musashi/Independence/Unicorn/Laf2/Hindenberg/Z52 for reference.

[zinc hornet]

so musashi/uni/indep best of my ships for mobbing in OPS?

[weary gust]

Yes for main fleet

[worldly pewter]

in ur situation u want to finish mobbing with musasi then change her to a bossing bb fleet

[zinc hornet]

yeah I'm not thinking about abyssal/arbiters just yet but that time will come

just wanna speed run

okay so I'm looking at
Musashi/Unicorn/Indepenence
Z52/Fu Shun (or An Shan)/Eldridge for mobbing?

I'm really happy that the DDGs hold up against some URs for damage. They're some of my favourite ships

[weary gust]

That'll work most of the time, but lacks tankiness. Strongholds are the only thing it might die on sometimes.

Anchorage (instead of eldridge) would be slower but safer. Depends what you want to prioritize

[zinc hornet]

okay I'll give it a shot and see how i go. thanks guys :D

[clear harbor]

What does expanding my dorm to the second floor do? Extra space for decorations?

Additional spots for moral boosting?

[viscid swift]

yes

[timid beacon]

2nd floor is morale, yeah

[lament cave]

is it just me thats starting to run low on ship quick finishers? how do u get more ?

[weary gust]

I cannot even imagine how you run out of quick finishers tbh.

[viscid swift]

if you play regularly running out should be next to impossible

[lament cave]

yeah i havent been playing as much in the past year but im playing enough for cubes to still be around 700

[weary gust]

You get like 1.2x quick finishers to cubes, very, very consistently. Your quick finisher amount should only grow the more you play even using them for every build.

[tropic tusk]

Someone is not grinding enough

[lament cave]

im wondering if im missing important that im not doing

[weary gust]

Do you do comms? At all?

[lament cave]

i only check it like once

[tropic tusk]

Ya that's y

They come from comms

[lament cave]

oh

[weary gust]

But so do cubes in large part

[tropic tusk]

That's wt U get for being lazy

[lament cave]

i have roughly 220 quick finshers

[weary gust]

I have 2559 and I have used a quick finisher for 99.99% of all my builds since playing for 5 years.

It's really hard to not gain on them.

[elfin hollow]

You are not the only one, it happens to many newcomers.

[tropic tusk]

I have 1k quick finish

[forest palm]

people count finishers?

[tropic tusk]

I never had problem even when I was a new player tho

I constantly click every hour

[forest palm]

if you're recklesssly pulling early you can run out of them

[tropic tusk]

I even swip back when on my first 2ur banner

Just for cube n money

[elfin hollow]

I've seen a few people run out of Quick Finishers, and it actually happened to me before I got Implacable

[tropic tusk]

Must be skill issues

[elfin hollow]

It's not skill, it's time. I've only been playing for a short time and if a character doesn't want to come out, you have to use a lot of Quick Finishers.
You must have time to save a good amount

[tropic tusk]

U only do that on event other then that it's just 1 pull per daily

I also started to play on event ,the only issue I had was lack of coin n cube so i swipe for that

[elfin hollow]

Wow, I hope you had luck at the event.

[tropic tusk]

Had to pity

[storm heron]

Col Sanderz

[elfin hollow]

I'm sorry

I hope you have better luck next time.

[tropic tusk]

First 3 Ur only come on exchange pity, then some event non exchangeable character comes after pity

[stark quiver]

Why did I get name dropped

[elfin hollow]

Speaking of Quick Finishers, I just found some in the store to buy hahaha

[elfin hollow]

I apologize, that's exactly what my name is in the game, that's why I put this name

[stark quiver]

I referring to this

[elfin hollow]

Sorry for the misunderstanding

[vocal sandal]

When exactly do the build tickets expire? I just need to use them all before the maintenance on Thursday right?

[weary gust]

~53.5 hours from now

[eager mulch]

we hate alpha

[zenith pebble]

is warspite good in w14+?

[storm heron]

warspite bad

[zenith pebble]

okie

i have implaceable and monarch as main, who else for boss?

[eager mulch]

idk musashi or smth

[zenith pebble]

dont have

[storm heron]

soyuz also good

[eager mulch]

how can i know then if you don’t say anything

[zenith pebble]

plymoth?

nvm thats cl

[sweet delta]

Great idea Plymouth(CV)

[zinc hornet]

is this gear fine for OPS? obviously levelled up when I'm not bankrupt

[zenith pebble]

what about vanguard?

[stark quiver]

Sure

[wind hazel]

maybe open a thread and post your dock instead of playing guessing game

[zenith pebble]

i dont have many ships, its just for future planning

[zinc hornet]

planning will be easiest if we know what you have now, so it's easier to figure out what improvements you need to prioritise

[sweet delta]

Napoli Unzen Bayard

[idle isle]

Hey what's the best way to farm ship exp

[zinc hornet]

12-4

[sweet delta]

Play event D3 or chapter 12

[zenith pebble]

ships i have rn

[idle isle]

my ships aren't that strong to make it that far yet

[zenith pebble]

7-2?

[elfin hollow]

9-1?

[zinc hornet]

also War Archives D3s can be handy if there's ships in there you need for fleet tech

[zenith pebble]

no wait, maybe 10-1

[idle isle]

i restarted on little enterprise a week ago

fresh account

im around 4-2 atm

[zinc hornet]

what event stage can you reach

[idle isle]

i got to world 2

[weary gust]

Did you have a question?

[idle isle]

I was wondering how I can farm ship exp

[weary gust]

Oh I see above. Generally just farm the highest stage you can.

You're not going to be able to get far in the event but do what you can, at least aim for the limited ship from points if you don't get it with the free tickets.

[idle isle]

oh yeah i got pretty lucky with rolls

[idle isle]

ty

[whole stump]

holy i had to manual d3 boss why was this fight so hard

[undone plover]

hard to say without more info but my guess is 1 fleet? so out of ammo fight?

could be time to raise a second fleet

[whole stump]

only 1 fleet ya

i'm so broke tho fmlll gotta be patient

[undone plover]

well repeat clears make the map easier

so if u dont mind manualing a bit it should become autoable soon

but still I recommend u start raising a second fleet if u have decent options

[whole stump]

i can put together a scuffed mob fleet but idk how level 80s/90s would fair against lv100+ enemies we'll see tho

[zenith heron]

Doable, but your fleet gets more dmg taken the lower you are vs enemies, vice versa if you have better levels, like usual game level system

[undone plover]

I wouldn’t waste resources on scuffed ships
U can post your dock lets see what u are working with
U could also farm with one fleet
But at some point u need to raise a second fleet to progress further and raising them in an oil capped map is a good idea

[whole stump]

well, sushi helped me a lot planning out a second fleet this is what we cooked up, just missing san diego from newcomer rewards (almost done them)

[undone plover]

I see
Well get the d3 map to safe then
Manual if u have to
Then start replacing 1-2 ships and raising new ones

[pale niche]

What position should eldridge retro be in?

[eager mulch]

depends

[dreamy blade]

tank or offtank depending on the content and your other vanguards

[whole stump]

how do i make howe and nelson the flagship? this interface is kinda confusing lol

[dreamy blade]

press adjust on the right side and youj can drag them around

[whole stump]

but wouldn't middle be the flagship? the order is so weird

does this mean frontline

[dreamy blade]

no, the ship in the 1st slot is flag

[zenith pebble]

flag, support, support, tank, support, sub tank

[hybrid pelican]

So is double DD gun the best loadout on Emden?

[outer robin]

What ships are best for hammering hornet meta

[worldly trench]

are war archives worth grinding?

there are some event ships that i want but having to do their d3 node 60 times might be a bit excessive

[vale spindle]

don't worry the more you clear the stage the easier it gets (up to a cap when it hits safe)

[forest palm]

I tend to prefer CL secondary over DD for Emden

[vale spindle]

only grind war archives for those event ships you want, and the event ships are only for waifu only
unless you need techpoints for shipyard

[worldly trench]

extremely unfortunate...

[polar lion]

Does flag affect aff?

[vale spindle]

no

only affects exp

[polar lion]

Thanks

[stark quiver]

mvp affect aff
and aff gain is same thruout all maps

[hollow gust]

Not enough levels

[clear harbor]

What does research focus do?

[hollow gust]

it focuses on that season, 3/5 of the research would be the focus, i suggest you start 4 or 5

[sweet delta]

At least 3/5

[clear harbor]

Oh.

[sweet delta]

If you focus 4, then you'd better do pure gear focus. Otherwise just focus 7

[clear harbor]

Can you show me a screen shot of what you would have set up?

I'm not sure what 3/5 means.

[sweet delta]

And focusing 4 is only good if you know when to stop (which is like after 1 or 2 of each gold gear)

[hollow gust]

there are 5 researches you can pick, at least 3 of them would be the season you put your focus in

[clear harbor]

Also, I'm researching Saint Lois (picked her before I knew what I was doing), will this affect my progress towards her?

[ivory pawn]

It's related, but not for that portion.

[hollow gust]

obtaining a ship is completly different then enhancing them

[sweet delta]

Shipyard and Research Academy are separate things

[hollow gust]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

at this point just read this,** READ FULLY**

[sweet delta]

This must be set to 7, 4, or debatable worse 5 or 6

[clear harbor]

Oh I see.

So that determines what kind of projects I get?

What do the other levels determine?

[hollow gust]

I suggest you read that guide fully, there are very very large gaps of what you know

[sweet delta]

~~The guide that says Izumo >= ~~

[clear harbor]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
This guide?

[sweet delta]

That whole section is really outdated and also questionable t🐝h, like new players aren't going to have 3 IJN main fleet ships or 3 KMS vanguards on their starter fleet, Marco should be "rest", Cheshire unbolded, Halford is BAD

[hollow gust]

it covers enough of what needs to be known

[sweet delta]

Yes just continue building Saint, do NOT choose her catch-up, and do set research focus to 7

[polar lion]

After finishing backline tech, what backline do you use?

[hollow gust]

whatever you want

[buoyant mauve]

Uh is littorio worth leveling and stuff? Or that's dependent on my dock

[hollow gust]

shes shit

purple retrofits perform better

[polar lion]

BB FP+1

[buoyant mauve]

Oh that's tuff

Kinda want to try working on my tech points for sardegna empire, guess that goes to the back burner for now

[tame fog]

Any consensus on the cl gun on the left and the ca gun on the right?

[wind hazel]

not better than existing ones

[timid beacon]

if you're working on tech points, gotta use what you have

she's just poor as a ship to use in any main content

[tame fog]

Damn

Was hoping i can some use out of them instead of them catching dust

[buoyant mauve]

I guess I can place her on a random team to gain exp while I work on someone else

[timid beacon]

best way to go about it, yeah

passive xp that way towards tech points

[buoyant mauve]

I do hope next banner i can get more new ships, been getting to much dupes 🙄

[turbid patrol]

should i roll the current event banner i'm new and bought commander level boost

[sinful escarp]

get implacable and scylla at the very least

[timid beacon]

dupes are always good for limit breaking at least, saves on bulins!

[timid beacon]

good UR in Implacable, and both Scylla and Royal Oak are great ships to get you running

[timid oar]

What world(s) are the most efficient at coin farming?

[stark quiver]

12-4 becuase you can level ships while grinding coins

[timid oar]

Average coins given per clear?

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12z

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[timid oar]

[slow fox]

Also this one

[thorn jay]

hello im a new in here

[wind hazel]

once again, you're Jason

[dreamy blade]

giulio cesare is a good one for that since she doesnt take gold bulins and gives +hit tech

[tawdry halo]

@wind hazel got the third bulin, used her on Implacable

[dreamy blade]

generally you shouldnt use UR bulins until you have enough to mlb in one go

[tawdry halo]

18 days old acc

[dreamy blade]

that doesnt really change what i said

[tawdry halo]

[wind hazel]

[tawdry halo]

Like what's the difference

[wind hazel]

so that you don't make the same fuck up like UVH

[tawdry halo]

[wind hazel]

dont partially mlb a UR ship, you either keep them 0LB or mlb in one go

[stark quiver]

[dreamy blade]

you want to avoid the situation youre in now where your UR bulins are spread out instead of having an mlb UR

[wind hazel]

i swear that's what people told you about UVH too, but maybe some interpretation issue got lost along the way

[stark quiver]

did someone use bulins on uvh

[wind hazel]

mina did

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

also not sure who even told you to invest in uvh at all. if you only started 18 days ago, people should have known that implacable was coming

whoever told you to touch uvh the tiniest bit was a huge troll

[stark quiver]

better question is to ask, who told you to

[dreamy blade]

no need to witch hunt, whats done is done

[wind hazel]

maybe it was you

[dreamy blade]

[stark quiver]

whats done is done yes, but can prevent them from spreading misinfo later on

[sweet delta]

Mina did

[stark quiver]

ouh

[whole stump]

the way my dumbass been catching up pr1 ships this entire time lol who's good to catch up pr5-6?

[turbid patrol]

who should i replace to Implacable

[sweet delta]

nobody, 3 star UR ships suck

[turbid patrol]

when can i use her(Implacable)

[wind hazel]

put on 2nd fleet. and mlb your ships... portland uni helena nelson screaming for more stats

[turbid patrol]

okay

[fickle hollow]

what are the conditions to trigger nakhimov freeze?

[shell willow]

needs another northern parliament slow applied when it happens

[turbid patrol]

are there any different if i got 3 star story stage

[sweet delta]

The difference is 50 or 100 extra gems in your pocket

One-time mission

And you need to 3 star a whole chapter to unlock that chapter's hard mode

[turbid patrol]

oooh ok ty

[light trail]

is there a tier list of lv120 tech bonuses for quick and easy reference

also is it safe to wife implacable or will that mess up timings

oh yeah, is there an easy way to beat EX

[rain vine]

play manual and learn the attack patterns

[vale spindle]

backline reload >= backline acc
dd/cl fp > ca/cl eva > rest

come back when you are finished with all of these

[dreamy blade]

iirc the only ship you might have to worry about that with is vanguard, but also waifu > timings

[hollow gust]

Vanguard cares less then CVs

[sweet delta]

Copying homework > solving timing problems

[slow fox]

delusional

[whole crypt]

just wait for CN dalaos

[north wharf]

Which DD can equip the F8F floatplane? I'm sure its not good but I just can't quite find which one

[slow fox]

Halford?

[light trail]

i mean like ships that give the tech (but this helps too ty)

[vale spindle]

since most of the ships are mediocre to bad, the order doesn't really matter

[light trail]

also im not sure what the consensus was, is it actually safe to wife for timing purposes or nah

sorry i should clarify, like is there a list that shows which ships give which bonuses?

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker you can use a tracker like this for easy filtering of ships
personally i just mark ships with good tech as "favorite" in game cause then its easy to see which ships give good tech without going into other websites or leaving the app

[light trail]

ah perfect tyty

[atomic abyss]

Only Halford

Unfortunately, it doesn't do much to save her

[north wharf]

Okay thanks

[dreamy blade]

fatesim will save halford

[atomic abyss]

I believe she is contender for worst PR ship actually

[light trail]

back to this real quick

[narrow arch]

So say theoretically I'm trying to raise a second fleet, who are the best ships to put into it

[light trail]

fully depends on what content you plan to do

[dreamy blade]

cant really answer that without knowing who you have available

[narrow arch]

I unlock opsi soon

And I'm raising a second fleet for hard mode conditions

[dreamy blade]

usually you will move most of your current fleet to the 2nd (boss) fleet, but unicorn stays with the mob fleet

[wind hazel]

either you wife everyone meta, or you don't wife them at all. or you gotta sync them yourself which can be a pain if you wanna copy stuff

[light trail]

wife them all it is, ty

[wind hazel]

wife everyone also means grinding all to 200 affinity, mind you

[narrow arch]

I'm only going to wife my favorite ships

[light trail]

i already have plenty of main fleet ships wifed so i guess i gotta just lock in lol

[sharp socket]

you can still sync with some ring and some not ring

[worldly trench]

How do i unlock augments?

I want to get the augment for taihou but the only ship that i can make any augment for is bolzano meta

[dreamy blade]

augment slot is locked until mlb

[worldly trench]

huh

but bolzano is only 4 stars though?

[dreamy blade]

meta ships are special

research ships and URs can also equip augments before mlb

[hollow gust]

If you are that new I reaaalu don't suggest using balzano

[worldly trench]

i use her with the portland sisters on my mob fleet

[dreamy blade]

indi

[hollow gust]

Drop Indianapolis and balzono, run your starter shop

[worldly trench]

shes been pretty great so far

[dreamy blade]

indianapolis is one of the worst ships in the game and portlands skill (which is also bad) does not make her worth using

[hollow gust]

That's just pure leveling , once you can't level them higher , they suck

[worldly trench]

unfortunate

[hollow gust]

It's 2% damage for every level advantage

[worldly trench]

who should i be using then

right now my best ship is scylla and taihou and they're on the boss fleet

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

give this a read, and also you are probably too early to be splitting your resources into a 2nd fleet

[worldly trench]

how do you find that

i tried looking on reddit for newbie guides but couldnt find any

[dreamy blade]

all the guides you really need will be on that site

anything else can be answered here

[north wharf]

Is it possible to change the VG order in OpSi without redeployment?

I put Laff II in off tank

[honest sequoia]

is 12-1 better for exp farming than 12-4

[shell willow]

you can disable fleet lock and swap but idk if it stays like that permanently

[worldly trench]

how do i grind exp for level 1 ships

[north wharf]

I guess I gotta make the sacrifice, oh well

[wind hazel]

it stays like that

[polar lion]

But 12-4 give better coins gain, dupes to retire for medals if u need those

[honest sequoia]

So if i wanna just pure focus exp then 12-1 is the way to go yes?

[eternal moth]

12-1 is easier, but I'd still recommend going 12-4 if you can beat it.

The extra coins are always going to be worthwhile

[honest sequoia]

i have like 300k 💔
and i just wanna know what is better for exp farming for both ships and PR exp grind

[eternal moth]

20% more fuel-efficient for coins, while only being about 5% worse in regards to XP gain.

If you want to be really fuel-efficient and don't care about anything else, go 11-1

[spare cave]

I finally pulled implacable, should I push to the pity to get a dupe ? I'm f2p btw

[honest sequoia]

does it actually give more than 12-1 tho

[eternal moth]

That's really tough. Did you already use the free ticket for today?

[honest sequoia]

source?

[spare cave]

Yep and I bought every ticket in the shop

[eternal moth]

The XP-oil pin

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KUGpvLg9Q-BU8yGe-REeuZCydiK8Ffxh/edit?gid=1324172446#gid=1324172446

[spare cave]

I mean I was kinda desperate

[honest sequoia]

Ah thanks

[eternal moth]

Since you're that close, I think I'd wait until after tomorrow's ticket and go for it.

UR bulins being as limited as they are, less than 15 cubes is worthwhile.

[polar lion]

Tho u sacrifice cog chips which then make 11-1 🚮 for me

[atomic abyss]

11-1 is also generally more difficult than 12-1

Suicide boats means you can't bring low level vanguards easily since one bad rng and your frontliner is toast

It also means you have to bring a BB in the backline to kill said suicide boats

You also have to account for enemy BB shelling setting your backline on fire

[light trail]

once implac is fully leveled and skilled up, she instantly replaces avp right

[normal cedar]

do you have to complete all cruise missions to get the ur bulin? im at lvl 44 now so I cant complete the siren mission..

[atomic abyss]

Most not all

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks

[eternal moth]

Yeah, there's slack built in, but not a huge amount

[hushed dawn]

Anything to improve on this fleet? Going for a one-shotter comp.

[eternal moth]

I assume you only have one LA-9?

[hushed dawn]

Yes. 😭

Using the backline of suchigummy's 3rd comp and the vanguard of his 2nd.

[polar lion]

Does your CVs maintain hidden state till the end?

[hushed dawn]

Currently observing it. In my current fight Rumey's revealed.

[eternal moth]

Timing is WAY off. There's no sync whatsover.

4 second difference between Soyuz and Nakh isn't going to work. Get rid of the autoloader, drop BB RLD tech to zero, and then see what timings look like.

[hushed dawn]

Sample fight with some numbers. Stops at around 12% or so.

[dreamy blade]

theres no way the twin134 on helena is the play, especially if your cvs are being revealed

[eternal moth]

Maybe give Fritz the LA-9 to bring the carriers closer together.

[frank pulsar]

prob just helena being helena tbh

[hushed dawn]

Aight what about this comp?

[frank pulsar]

z52 shld be the one with sexy not helena

[hushed dawn]

The what?

[whole crypt]

Fritz gets more out of the La-9 anyway unless it's a timing issue, slot plane count

[tame jungle]

sextuple bofors

[frank pulsar]

the sextuple bofors

[hushed dawn]

Ah.

[whole crypt]

no Unzen?

[hushed dawn]

I have Unzen.

REALLY???

[frank pulsar]

wait why use wyvern

[whole crypt]

I can't remember if Helena should be replacing Unzen or Plymouth in that case

[frank pulsar]

helena replaces unzen iirc

[whole crypt]

also yes why Wyvern

[frank pulsar]

wyvern is pointless since you have a stop

[dreamy blade]

for the interception

[whole crypt]

I'll check the damage numbers again tonight

[polar lion]

Prolly for interception?

[eternal moth]

Damn it, I missed that. Yeah, replace that Wyvern with a converging TB. Ryusei would be far better.

[hushed dawn]

I just saw the Breguet from suchi's comp and I figured "Wait wouldn't Wyvern be better?" 😭

[whole crypt]

looking at the detection gauge he might not need wyvern intercept

[frank pulsar]

surely two +13 sexy bofors is enough aa

[dreamy blade]

i assume it was also partially for timing reasons since the breguet is really fast

[hushed dawn]

Aight since I equipped sexbofors they haven't had issues with detection.

[eternal moth]

Twin 134 is the worst AA you can equip if you're having detection issues, so that's not a surprise.

[shell willow]

brequet for 4 strike

[fickle hollow]

who has a better slow AVP or Ark royal?

[eternal moth]

AvP has a full stop

[fickle hollow]

Then Shinano-Amagi-Avp would be good right?

[eternal moth]

As long as you have a third IJN ship in the vanguard, like Kazagumo, yes.

I assume you don't have implacable yet?

[fickle hollow]

100 pulls i still dont have her tmr i get 12 cubes from login and try again

[eternal moth]

Plus 1 free ticket

[fickle hollow]

Which NP ships apply slow for Nakhimov Freeze (i dont have Soyuz)

[dreamy blade]

tashkent

[eternal moth]

I think most people use Voroshilov or Tashkent

[fickle hollow]

This is the best i do against Hornet Meta so i thought i should use Nakhimov-Fritz-(NP slow) instead

[cobalt rapids]

if u have to use voro for nekomov ure better off with other ships
tash is ok on light

[fickle hollow]

[cobalt rapids]

ure missing a slow support
also if u use amagi then u can just run conv tb instead of bf
but well their hitrate will suck more unless u can run a freezer
wheres ur implac?

[eternal moth]

He hasn't pulled imp yet

[cobalt rapids]

dont run sextuples against hornet meta, they suck

[eternal moth]

They worked

[cobalt rapids]

what worked

they are just worse

[eternal moth]

Than what?

[hushed dawn]

So just full hit AA?

[cobalt rapids]

than roombas

[tame jungle]

i reckon you'll mostly want more range rather than damage no? since the hornet meta planes are so squishy

[whole crypt]

for hornet specifically soyuz is the best slow for nakhimov, if no soyuz just game with slow or go for Implac or something

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[eternal moth]

He already did a run with sexy and had no detection, so it's fine.

[cobalt rapids]

its literally rng, that doesnt prove anything

[hushed dawn]

Will run this tomorrow.

[eternal moth]

I still think Soyuz is too fast. What happens if you set BB RLD tech to zero?

[whole crypt]

that's what you should do

[hushed dawn]

Haven't done that yet, but will do tomorrow.

[eternal moth]

You can make the adjustment on that page

[pale niche]

Where in the wiki can I see the equation for hit rate?

[tame jungle]

/wiki damage calculation

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[eternal moth]

Far right at the top of the page, set your CV and BB RLD tech there.

[boreal wagon]

those 2 arent even the same page

[hushed dawn]

Uhhhh this? They're set to 0.

[whole crypt]

it should be barely enough if you're not dual La-9 on Nakhimov, if you do then 0 rld won't fix it but still min tech to reduce gap

[eternal moth]

Set your CV to whatever you have.

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ just move here when tinkering so u can actually see rld skills and homing beacons effects on ur cd

[hushed dawn]

Set to +40 for CVs.

[eternal moth]

This is with 17 BB RLD, so drop the beacons and you'll be good.

[proven wren]

is A R&D equipment upgrade generally worth it? for example the 76mm AA to early model single 127mm (for shimakaze)

[eternal moth]

Unless Nakh being .04 second faster than Soyuz is a problem.

Yeah, looks like it is, so you'll need to set CV RLD to 35 and leave BB at max

[eternal moth]

It depends on the gear. In that case, just stick with the single 76

The 127 would be a pretty big downgrade because it's a lot slower.

[hushed dawn]

This is what I got.

[eternal moth]

Why is your Fritz so much faster than what I'm showing...

[sinful escarp]

oil to exp wise which stage is the most the best? not counting coins

[eternal moth]

12-1

[sinful escarp]

ohh thanks

[eternal moth]

Is anyone oathed?

[hushed dawn]

Not in the backline no.

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, you still have CV tech set to 40. Change it to 35 and you'll be good.

[steel grotto]

for opsi cv fleet whats the best combo from shinano, amagi, hakuryuu, and implacable

[eternal moth]

Shinano, Amagi, Implac

[steel grotto]

ic thanks

[polar lion]

How to make it look horizontal liek that? Mine looks liek this instead

[tropic tusk]

have u tried turn ur phone sideways?

[boreal wagon]

phone almost never will have horizontal because the screen is too small

[polar lion]

Yes but doesn't dew it

Oh sedge

[tropic tusk]

y would u want it sideways anyway

[boreal wagon]

you can turn compact mode and ultra compact mode on to see if that does anything but it probably wont

[polar lion]

Coz moar compact

How?

[boreal wagon]

click the 3 bars -> settings -> visual

[polar lion]

Dang, it is this 🤏 to greatness coz I can put kyats in this builder

Ultra compact and compact mode on

[boreal wagon]

u can mess with fleet scale in the same settings menu but be aware:

• itll probably never go fully horizontal
• itll never go side by side
• too low of a scaling may make touch unresponsive

[polar lion]

Fleet scale = 65%
Selection scale = 65%
Force single column ship = on (seems liek nothing changed)
Compact mode on
Ultra compact off

Looks better

[boreal wagon]

force single column would force all ships to be shown underneath another if there otherwise was space to show them side by side (which is not the case for you and which is why nothing changes)

[polar lion]

Oo

[fluid umbra]

Is amagi/nano/implac fine for anti light?

Or should i swap ships

[wind hazel]

doable but not the best

[fluid umbra]

Mmm I didn't get yk2 during rerun cause cube issues

So my options are limited

[shell willow]

what about UR bbs?

[fluid umbra]

3 star UvH, 5 star kearsarge, MLB Raffa, MLB FdG, MLB Sashi

[near cargo]

Which is currently best META BB?

[shell willow]

honestly cant tell if fdg, musashi and raffaello would beat the cv comp on light

[fluid umbra]

Probably not

I'll stick to my usual cv fleet then

[dreamy blade]

didnt get fritz either?

[polar lion]

How many twin 76 do I want?

[eternal basalt]

What's frog AA? Is that the kitty AA?

[frank pulsar]

queen elizabeth

[eternal basalt]

She kills herself

[frank pulsar]

hassat who do you think is a better META bb

[dreamy blade]

rodney

[cobalt rapids]

nagato, rodney, andreea..

[eternal basalt]

Prob. Nagato

[frank pulsar]

i didnt realise nagato was that good
maybe i shouldnt have skipped

[dreamy blade]

one of the best non-UR mobbing bbs

[cobalt rapids]

much like the others the only relevancy they have if u have rainbows is tech

[eternal basalt]

No META UR yet though

[slow fox]

Fusou Meta <3

[remote nacelle]

What does it mean by "0 BB"?

[shell willow]

reload tech i think

[ebon verge]

is this a bug ?
https://streamable.com/odzvd6

[plain saffron]

i guess

[forest palm]

somewhat? the devs made it happen less often just manually move away from it then auto again

[plain saffron]

their path logic isn't perfect, and there's that notification

[forest palm]

we love fog

[zinc hornet]

helloooo friendos, what are Musashis best guns for:
W14 mobbing
OPS mobbing
OPS bossing?

[sharp socket]

twin 410 kai
twin 410 kai
twin 410 modA (daisen gun) if med/heavy
twin 410 kai if light

[zinc hornet]

sweet

and the other 2 guns?
I'm guessing table and white shell for aux

[sharp socket]

wdym other 2 guns

its all there

[zinc hornet]

secondary and AA

[sharp socket]

AA use staag all the time

[storm heron]

secondary gun and AA gun real

[plain saffron]

patch notes up?

[zinc hornet]

thought so

[storm heron]

best AA is the rainbow twin 76 but staag is ok

[sharp socket]

for secondary
triple 155 kai

[zinc hornet]

ok tytyty

[sharp socket]

works for all

[zinc hornet]

thanks 💜

[shell willow]

on weibo

possible bb rld (nevada meta) in cruise missions

[north wharf]

Is gold rocket FW-190 from gear lab worth getting?

[forest palm]

the R-6 isn't that much better than the standard fighters, and lacks intercept, on top of this PR7 has the La-9 which is just better overall

[north wharf]

Alright, won't bother for now then thanks

[timid oar]

Any other ways to farm gems besides clearing worlds?

[north wharf]

Memento (collection) and commission/event RNG

[still pond]

hey i'm new to the game and just randomly played along now i got intrested to rly play the game 😄 got some screens from my ships could anyone help me out to build something for story playthrough ^^

[stark tide]

[ivory pawn]

Highly recommend you check out https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips, it also includes a solid beginner fleet that you can easily get all but one piece of.

[sharp echo]

how many hour left for event?

[tame jungle]

like 18.5

[wind hazel]

+24

[tame jungle]

actually no it's tuesday

[sharp echo]

1 day & 18 hour?

[tame jungle]

so yes 42.5

[wind hazel]

quik mafs

[tame jungle]

kid named calculator

(i am cooked)

[sharp echo]

ah ok, no need to rush 40k today then

[forest palm]

42 hrs 30 mins

[still pond]

i gambad already and wanna now if something is good or nah ^^ yeah i know thats always bad 😄

[ivory pawn]

Depending on where you spent the cubes, might not be a bad thing. Share your dock and we can see if you lucked into something useful.

[still pond]

here it is 😄

maybe the rare ones too dont know 😄

[atomic abyss]

Well Shangri La is there

[north wharf]

Don't use Bulins

[atomic abyss]

Based on the beginner guide
You should use

Nelson, Unicorn, Shangri La
Portland, Helena, Z23

As said, bulins are not for combat, they're basically fodder for limit breaking

[still pond]

kk^^

[turbid patrol]

How long will it take to have enough event currency for all items in the event shop

[forest palm]

way longer than we have left

besides you don't need everything in the shop

[turbid patrol]

what should i buy in the event shop

[forest palm]

it's in the pins

[turbid patrol]

alr ty

[eternal basalt]

Note the buildtickets EXPIRE once the event is over...

[woven star]

btw is tomorrow a last day for event pull?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Event last day is always Wednesday

[woven star]

good, maybe I will get chance to get impla🤣 160 pull and 0 copies

[rocky tinsel]

Is CB battlecruiser? So basically battleship?

[turbid marsh]

thats bc

[worldly pewter]

large

[tame jungle]

nope, CB = large cruiser in this game and they go in the frontline and not the backline

[novel solstice]

BC is "battlecruiser". It is a backline ship
CB is "Cruiser, Big" (Large Cruiser). It is the biggest frontline ship.

[rocky tinsel]

Ahhh gotcha. Thank you guys very much

[timid oar]

Hope you can get her in time!

[rocky tinsel]

@woven star oooooof. I pulled her in 60. Good luck.

Is there any point to RLD on carriers?

[tame jungle]

yes

[soft raft]

But if you mean putting an autoloader on them, hell no

[atomic abyss]

Can you even put autoloaders on them

[rocky tinsel]

I have a SR Cat with Rookie Mechanic, Rookie Helmsman and Aviantion Adept

I swear I have the worst luck with Cats, so this is my best CV one I've got... Wondering whether he's worth it long term

[shell willow]

cant

[exotic wren]

Yat Sen, Harbin, Chang Chun or Tai Yuan?

[atomic abyss]

Cat min maxing is an endgame thing
Just use it

[atomic abyss]

For what exactly?

[rocky tinsel]

Ha, I suppose I will have all of the rest of the time I play this game to agonize over cats

[frank pulsar]

cc > tai yuan here

[turbid marsh]

i prefer yat sen as my wife. but i think you are talking about strength?

[atomic abyss]

I'm not sure if they're asking for a team comp

Or which one is best

If you're saying as a team, then yes CC is better over Tai Yuan for slot 3

If you're saying as individuals, Tai Yuan should be the best out of all 4

[rocky tinsel]

Last question for the day. Sometimes I get XP for siren battles, sometimes I dont. How comes?

[soft raft]

iirc if it's a enemy that's part of a OpSi Daily, they dont give XP
tho honestly I barely pay attention since the XP Gain there is pretty damn small

[bold surge]

Some battles include some form of infinite enemy spawner. These dont give exp when slain either.

[eternal basalt]

Red = XP. Blue = No XP

[exotic wren]

This, my bad, tho what's TY's schtick? Iirc An Shan got higher personal damage while CC got buffs for NP and DE

[rocky tinsel]

Easy to understand! Next I'll try to figure out why red or blue.

[eternal basalt]

Reinforcement in hidden zone are blue, port defense missions too.

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan has the highest damage of all
Especially in a full fleet

[eternal basalt]

The Siren in Hidden Zones that follows you no XP, Siren that were there from the start XP

[atomic abyss]

And I believe Fu Shun out paces An Shan tho don't quote me on that

I can't remember if she outpaces a solo Tai Yuan tho

[exotic wren]

Danke enderrrr

[jaunty glade]

anyone have a raff build they can share? opsci

[humble ferry]

whats the best and fastest way to get steam catapults

[atomic abyss]

Pray for good rng from gold tech boxes

[humble ferry]

well, im getting alot of of that maint equip

[worldly pewter]

once in a while around 3 months check ur crafting section in the depot u might find one

[atomic abyss]

Main gun depends on use case as always
155 Kai
UR 76mm AA, if not STAAG
White shell
Second aux depends on use case

[humble ferry]

i only have 7 prints rn thats why i asked lol

[atomic abyss]

Well since she's a mobber, probably 457 for main gun with HPFCR for second aux

[humble ferry]

MAN WHEN ARE THEY ADDING STEAM CATAPULTS TO GEAR LAB

[worldly pewter]

they won't add aux

[atomic abyss]

The same day they add rudders

I mean generally I don't think they add any universal auxes

Isn't catapult part of the general research pool like rudders?

[humble ferry]

yea but they are still pretty rare for me

[atomic abyss]

So I stand corrected
Either you pray for good tech box rng
Or you do more gear researches (and thus doing less ship ones)

[north wharf]

Am I doing OpSi Strategic Search right by selecting Secured zones and then just letting it hit random zones? Only stopping for merchant?

[sharp echo]

is this must have for bb?

[atomic abyss]

No BB uses it
Not even Mikasa, which is who the gear belongs to

[sharp echo]

soooo what to do with core data shop?

[atomic abyss]

3 pairs of white and black shells, and independence are the priorities

/coredata also shows this

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[soft raft]

Crit rate
lol
lmao even

[atomic abyss]

Black shell has +8% crit rate lol

[sharp echo]

ooooooooooooooh this one? i didnt know there is gear. need to scroll

[worldly pewter]

7.7k cores

[sharp echo]

damn bricked myself for not knowing this XD

[atomic abyss]

7700

At least you haven't used them yet, and it's near monthly reset

So buy a pair of shells and independence now

[worldly pewter]

buy indep white and black shell
snorkel arrays and cogs breguet and homing beacon

[atomic abyss]

The latter can wait

He does need 4800 for 3 pairs of shells

[worldly pewter]

judging by the 7.7k he might skip 1 or 2 back shells and it will require another reset for the 3rd white shell

[sharp echo]

which one is independence?

oh elite ship

[atomic abyss]

Very strong retrofit

[sharp echo]

US CV?

[worldly pewter]

one of the best cv tech too at 120

[atomic abyss]

US CVL yes

[sharp echo]

cool i can combo with YT2 and enterprise

[atomic abyss]

No

The comp has no slower to begin with, so good luck hitting anything

[worldly pewter]

doesn't synergize well

[atomic abyss]

More importantly she doesn't sync with them

[sharp echo]

oh

[atomic abyss]

One of her biggest advantages is she has a reduced cool down on her first airstrike

This makes her stagger her airstrike from other carriers naturally

[worldly pewter]

easiest stagger very needed in mob farming
she is used also in boss fleets in w15 and also in the support

[atomic abyss]

Why is that important?
Well for mobbing and campaign in general, staggering your damage sources to form a smoother damage curve is much more important than nuking

Since enemies come in waves, as opposed to all at once

She's basically one of the best mobbing and campaign carriers

She's better than most of the UR CVs at campaign even

[drifting light]

Hi, agir has fate simulation? Because it allows me to trade prints it seems, but she is still stuck at dev 30

[atomic abyss]

No she does not

[reef moat]

rah, what do i even do with this 😭

[atomic abyss]

Keep for flex or scrap like most of us would

[drifting light]

I see thx

[reef moat]

may as well keep it ig

[worldly pewter]

u know better ur dock situation

[turbid marsh]

young man! do you like my bb reload +1? --- nevada meta

[sharp echo]

these? cant find cogs
what does oxy do?

[worldly pewter]

cog and array should be at in the first line

since this is ur first time going into the shop they should be there

[sharp echo]

oh u mean the chips
got it

[tawdry halo]

Chat, how good is Centaur, Taihou, Essex and Illustrious?

[atomic abyss]

Decent, decent, decent, strong at her niche

[worldly pewter]

mid mid mid support in w15

[tawdry halo]

alright what about Kaga

[atomic abyss]

Shit

Even with Akagi

[tawdry halo]

Oh well, guess she's there for the collection

[worldly pewter]

tech

[tawdry halo]

I'mma just go ss my day 18 dock

[sharp echo]

stagger mean like doing airstrike separately instead of all out? am i correct?

[atomic abyss]

Correct

[atomic abyss]

^

Explained it more here

[atomic abyss]

And all are meaningless in the face of the enterprise sitting there so

[worldly pewter]

any help u are asking ?

[tawdry halo]

Yea?

What ships are good and what are bad ones in those 5 ss

[sharp echo]

what oxy does for submarine other than submerge longer?

[tawdry halo]

So that I can begin setting up ideas for boss and mobbing fleets in the future for Op Si

[worldly pewter]

the ones that u are not investing in are
unicorn enterprise helena scylla implacable saratoga

[atomic abyss]

Perseus, Z23, Nelson, Helena, Unicorn, Shinano, implacable, enterprise, Scylla, Saratoga, Portland
Are the ones you shd focus on

[white agate]

submerge longer->more hits fired since alive

[novel solstice]

Staying longer is what it does.

But a sub fires a volley of torps, then waits a bit, then fires another volley. If a snorkel gives it enough extra time that it fires four volleys instead of three, that's increasing its damage by a lot.

[north wharf]

Wait is this many cores good or bad?

[sharp echo]

OH ITS FOR SUBS CALL IN SORTIE?

i was thinking like subs only mission daily raids tab XD

[worldly pewter]

good or bad is dependent on the investment

if u stockpile the cores without any investment then it should be bad
if u are done with the shop and u have 7k leftover then it is good

[north wharf]

Okay good just wanted to know in case I was being hella inefficient

Ty

[tawdry halo]

would take a while until Implacable finally enters service with max lmb, so I will rush Unicorn first for max lmb and retrofit to replace Perseus

For Enty, I just need to farm her for max lmb and she should be enough to replace my Long Island.

I am not sure what to do with Scylla, Saratoga and Helena as of now but I will try

Portland and Z23... same retrofit focus

[atomic abyss]

Saratoga is who you should use over centaur, essex and taihou

Helena is the best debuffer in the game despite being a purple

[tawdry halo]

how good is she comparing to Z23 or San Diego

[atomic abyss]

Completely different use

[worldly pewter]

if u are ready to invest into a second team u know which one to pick

[atomic abyss]

San Diego is the best at anti air and later a very decent DPS
Z23 is just an ok dps will be dropped eventually and can't hold a candle to either in their use

Helena is unparalleled in her niche
As is Sandy

While Helena's use falls off for end game players who dislike the rng aspect of her debuff
For almost every other player, she is extremely important to have, especially for operation siren and meta showdowns

As for San Diego
The end game of AL is plane hell so lol

[tawdry halo]

My current ideas for the first and second teams (in the future)

Fleet 1: Implacable - Retro Nelson - Retro Unicorn (Main) + Retro Portland + Retro Nimi + Retro Sandy (Vanguard)

Fleet 2: Saratoga - Shinano (or ?) - Enterprise (Main) + Helena - Scylla - ? (Vanguard)

[atomic abyss]

Saratoga on mob, impla on boss
You need another BB for boss so shinano goes most likely since she won't be limit broken

[tawdry halo]

My Fleet one would be boss

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn is a mobber

She has no place in a boss fleet

Helena is a bosser

Enterprise is also preferred on bossing

URs don't have preference, but usually you save the best for the boss

[worldly pewter]

after u level the mobbing ships they will become bossing such as helena port enterprise implacable

[tawdry halo]

so Percy's a boss?

[atomic abyss]

That said, I would not use Ulrich as your second battleship

I would much rather you invest the bulins in implacable and shinano

And get Friedrich de grosse instead

[worldly pewter]

only in 15-4

[atomic abyss]

Perseus is a worse unicorn retrofit

You will probably not use her for a long time once you get unicorn up

[tawdry halo]

I invested so much in Percy, I dont know where would she go

[atomic abyss]

Nowhere

[tawdry halo]

probably gonna end up somewhere in the other fleets

[atomic abyss]

If anything, you can use her in place of unicorn for the foreseeable future

The thing is, you don't need more than 2 fleets in campaign

[turbid marsh]

a worse unicorn is still very good, no need to be sad

[pliant sparrow]

Helena retrofit or montpelier?

[atomic abyss]

Helena doesn't use gold bulins, as good as monty is

And in opsi where you do want more than 2 fleets
That's 1 mob and 3 boss fleets
So Percy has no place there either once uni is up

[tawdry halo]

where would UVH go too, ||I used 2 UR Bulins on her and got absolutely lesson-taught by other people|| 💀

[atomic abyss]

For now, use Perseus over unicorn since you already raised her so much

Also nowhere for now

[worldly pewter]

it is very hard to use her unless u do some weird stuff

[atomic abyss]

Ulrich isn't bad, but her kit is very finnicky

Cut your losses is the name of the game here

[tawdry halo]

other ppl told me UVH should have been benched forever

[atomic abyss]

And that's what I said too?

[tawdry halo]

[tawdry halo]

I barely have any good BBs aside from my retro Nelson

I'm having way too many CVs

[worldly pewter]

u have shinano to raise with dupes and she will compete with uvh and also vanguard is in the line and technically better than uvh utility wise

[atomic abyss]

Read what i said here carefully

[worldly pewter]

uvh has a stronger xfleet over vanguard

[tawdry halo]

for current BBs for grind I have Arizona, Rodney and Repulse

[tawdry halo]

I am getting UR bulins for Implacable

[soft raft]

No Hood?

[atomic abyss]

I said not to use Ulrich

[tawdry halo]

unfortunately

[atomic abyss]

Either get a hold of Hood or Tirpitz from medal shop in future

[tawdry halo]

isnt she fine for cross barraging

[atomic abyss]

Where would you use her

[soft raft]

See if you can get her from medal shop or from your rookie reward unless you already used the latter on Enterprise

[atomic abyss]

The fact you imply her use for cross fleet

Means she has to be in another fleet

[tawdry halo]

Second fleet as of now

[atomic abyss]

No

Just don't use her lol

[soft raft]

Are you even at at least W9 yet

[tawdry halo]

nope, I just unlocked 7-1

[soft raft]

yeah dont even think about a 2nd fleet in general right now then

[atomic abyss]

Then ignore the concept of the second fleet entirely
Even Ulrich herself

[tawdry halo]

by the time I get Hood I'm probably too far to raise her 😭

[atomic abyss]

You won't

You don't even have a second fleet

[crisp geode]

Does war archive events have oil capped maps?

[soft raft]

D Maps like usual yee

[tawdry halo]

Yea I kind of just make up random stuffs

[soft raft]

Yikes

[tame jungle]

ew

[atomic abyss]

And you should stop

[stark quiver]

[tame jungle]

i don't think you're anywhere near a point where you should even start thinking about a 2nd fleet

[atomic abyss]

I would do this
Use ONLY the first fleet
Swap in Enterprise over Long Island

Done

[rocky tinsel]

Do hard modes in later worlds award you more T1 blueprints? Or just better chances for the heigher tiers

[tawdry halo]

😭

[stark quiver]

theres no actual rate

[tame jungle]

the odds might be better on later hard modes, but i don't think we have actual rates
higher worlds are still more core data though, so it's always worth doing the highest you can

[atomic abyss]

You still get 2 BPs per clear always
Anecdotally, the drop rate is better

Like... 1% better per chapter you go

[tawdry halo]

is the lv gapping a bit too much rn

[tame jungle]

it's more that the ships you're using are a bit shite or high investment or both

[atomic abyss]

20 levels is fine

[tame jungle]

plus you will most likely not have serviceable gear for 2 whole fleets at this point

[dense wigeon]

Valid or no?

[tame jungle]

for what

[tawdry halo]

I kind of want to ask if Prinz Eugen was a noob trap

[stark quiver]

yes

[tame jungle]

she's decent at staying alive and that's about it

[dense wigeon]

Idk i have 420 shipgirls but i still dont have a single clue what to do with them

[stark quiver]

so what is is for though

[rocky tinsel]

Roon's augmentation worth it?

[wind hazel]

if you use roon yes

[tame jungle]

sure, if you're not going to be replacing her anytime soon might as well do it

[tawdry halo]

is there any other tankers better than a retro Portland, I may ask?

[tame jungle]

it's not a bad augment at all

yes a lot

[worldly pewter]

might be

[wind hazel]

ironically eugen is a better tank than portland

[dense wigeon]

Alternative for prinz eugen?

[stark quiver]

napoli

[wind hazel]

sheesh relax...

[rocky tinsel]

It's very expensive to make

[tawdry halo]

😭 and then she's bad at everything else?

[worldly pewter]

on paper yes but cost to performance and tech ?

[wind hazel]

well eugen is expensive, but both her and portland tech are equally garbage

[wild lagoon]

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[worldly pewter]

port is AA tech though

[tame jungle]

portland more cost effective yes but honestly it's a mid-off

[wind hazel]

portland is really only recommended because she's cheap, and needed for mission, that's it

[stark quiver]

or honestly, anchorage

[dense wigeon]

Anchorage?

[wind hazel]

in a world where gold bulin is unlimited, people wouldn't raise portland 😭

[storm olive]

AA only affects like chesh and Guam

[rocky tinsel]

also whoever forgot to put a "unequip all shipgirls not in your fleets" button in this game needs a stern talking to

[tawdry halo]

so I wanna ask if Implacable is gonna be worth it for a whole year or so before getting crowned (maybe?)

[rocky tinsel]

@wind hazel who is your favorite early tank?

[tawdry halo]

I'm about to get smacked again...

[stark quiver]

mine is portland or anchorage
but tbf i never used her

[tawdry halo]

[stark quiver]

i started the game with eugen

[worldly pewter]

anchorage for me was harder to get than agir because of tech

[tawdry halo]

anyway so how good is Argus in actual performance

[tame jungle]

bad

[rocky tinsel]

Also, Implacable is best in the mob fleet right?

[tawdry halo]

and maybe Z2

[stark quiver]

single target bossing fleet

[rocky tinsel]

kk

[tame jungle]

implacable is used to timestop in single target bossing to ensure all your rockets/torps hit

[worldly pewter]

if u are new then u won't be having much luxury to decide
just use and

[rocky tinsel]

Duh... I'll have her replace my ark royal!

[stark quiver]

only if max limit broken

[tawdry halo]

How is Z2 and Royal Ark chat

[chrome fiber]

Halo, should i pull until i get implacable ? Since its near end of event and all ticket is used.

[rocky tinsel]

Ah, alas I do not have enough bullins

[worldly pewter]

all the z are tech fodders except 52

[tame jungle]

z2 is dogshit, ark royal is decent

[stark quiver]

yes

[tawdry halo]

I guess I know who to scrape

[worldly pewter]

someone isn't reading what i write

[chrome fiber]

I've heard there's a new ur coming though. well if that's suggested il do it

[tame jungle]

z2 is fp tech

[rocky tinsel]

Also why until she's fully limit broken? She's already far better stats wise than my Saratoga, despite being 20 levels lower

[stark quiver]

near mid-end of may

[tawdry halo]

Z-52... where do I get her

[tame jungle]

event limited, wait 2 years

[tawdry halo]

ong...

[tame jungle]

because she's missing a lot of planes, effectively turbogimping her damage

[tawdry halo]

would take me 2 months until I manage to fully lmb Implacable

[storm olive]

Also no reload tech so timing sucks

[atomic abyss]

For a carrier, they basically lose over half their damage without limit breaks

[chrome fiber]

So go all out on implacable?

[tawdry halo]

how good is London

[tame jungle]

london is also kinda shit

[hollow gust]

Meh

[storm olive]

Wasnt shropkai a better London

[zenith heron]

old, like really old

[tawdry halo]

I guess I keep her for the memes

[wind hazel]

portland im cheap

[tame jungle]

london is cute though :3

[dense wigeon]

I dont have her

[storm olive]

Isn't Portland good as an early tank anyway since the beginner team gives a pretty natural pathway to anchorage with all the uss tech it gives

[tame jungle]

yes

[dense wigeon]

Idk... is there something i should change?

[rocky tinsel]

Anyone wish wedding rings were cheaper? All these ships and so little time...

[tawdry halo]

Alright next question, how good is York

[zenith heron]

its either you get Portland bcs you at least you know the best buck per performance

or you just go Eugen for pure Tankyness with a sad excuse of a damage dealer

[crisp geode]

Any special rewards for clearing war archive maps with 3* or i shouldnt bother with it?

[wind hazel]

dont bother

[tame jungle]

if you got all these questions about individual ships honestly go look at the tier list lol

[wild lagoon]

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[wind hazel]

sir, this is gph, not al-general

[tawdry halo]

I dont trust tier list that much, I prefer asking actual players

[dense wigeon]

Nein das werde ich nicht machen

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[wind hazel]

sir, this is english server, not germany server

[tawdry halo]

even when York is retrofitted?

[atomic abyss]

Only English in this server

[tame jungle]

yes even when york is retrofit

[atomic abyss]

Ass, worse than London's retrofit, which isn't particularly good either
Not to mention, elite retrofit so very expensive

[wild lagoon]

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[wind hazel]

you can count with two hands on what early players should retrofit

[tawdry halo]

so is retro Nimi good 😭

[atomic abyss]

She is recommended for a new player

You are required for retrofit her thanks to the beginner missions

[dense wigeon]

Idk... is it allowed to send a load of screenshots?

[tame jungle]

can do a thread if you want

[atomic abyss]

In a thread it's fine

[rocky tinsel]

Which of the three starter destroyers is the weakest?

[atomic abyss]

All of them

Are basically the same level

[wind hazel]

javelin sucks

[worldly pewter]

why are u asking one by one when we already answered u earlier when u posted ur whole dock ?

[storm olive]

Does anybody have w15 sample fleets

[tame jungle]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[tawdry halo]

I'm just asking a few them to actually make sure

[rocky tinsel]

Ugh, to limit break royal oak or not... she's just so expensive for how good she is

[worldly pewter]

it is called choosing by elimination
the ones that aren't mentioned mean not worth investing in
so their only role is raise to lvl 120 for tech

late game grind

[rocky tinsel]

Gold bullins don't grow on trees

[tame jungle]

don't bother with royal oak

[rocky tinsel]

Foolishly, I already did

[wind hazel]

Ships that new players should retrofit:
Unicorn, Portland, Laffey/Z23/Javelin, Nelson, Helena

Ships that new players can consider to retrofit later on:
Independence, Saratoga, Ark Royal, San Diego

Ships that new players should avoid to retrofit:
Warspite

[tame jungle]

then stop bothering with royal oak

[rocky tinsel]

I wish warspite was better. Her skin is sweet

[tame jungle]

#al-general

[rocky tinsel]

Sorry.

[wind hazel]

actually maybe helena should belong to 2nd group

[dense wigeon]

My thread

[worldly pewter]

and maybe sandy belongs to the first group

[wind hazel]

that depends, tbh

[tame jungle]

agree with the helena point
disagree with the sandy point (too expensive imo)

[atomic abyss]

Sandy is strong enough with her augment for a new player

[tame jungle]

sandy + aug probably a good idea though, then can be retrofitted later on when you're ready to do 13+

[rocky tinsel]

If you run into the XP cap at level 90 because you haven't limit broken, any xp you earn at that point is wasted?

[tame jungle]

yep

[odd flare]

what map do yall use to level up low level ships ?? im out of blue books, and im looking for a decent map to farm my royal navy ships for Plymouth

[atomic abyss]

W12-1

Even level 70-ish frontlines can survive there with a decent backline

[odd flare]

what if its reverse ??

[atomic abyss]

Then you probably want level 90+

Or a mix of 100+ and 70+

[odd flare]

oof. im running low 70s to 80s

[atomic abyss]

But Plymouth is a vanguard tho

[worldly pewter]

depends on the xfleets too

[tame jungle]

xfleets in 12-1

[odd flare]

formi, Nun, Royal Oak. with
tank off tank vanguard.

[novel solstice]

In addition to 12-1 I also use stuff I'm trying to level in D-3 of events (less XP, but I am doing it for the event currency anyway), and opsi mob fleet (again, not much XP, but it's free).

[atomic abyss]

Anyways, low 70-80s are to be grinded in events

In the first place why backline for ply?
You need the tech?

Then isn't 70 enough for MLB?

[odd flare]

i already have enough oathed 125 backlines

[atomic abyss]

You're not answering my question tho

Plymouth as a CL, only takes frontliner exp for her combat data collection

Why are you using a British backline

[tawdry halo]

wait there's a HELENA META???

[atomic abyss]

There is, but completely irrelevant to you

[tawdry halo]

so Helena Meta is shittier than Helena or something? That's... weird

[atomic abyss]

helena has a niche use as the best debuffer in the game

[odd flare]

Impacable, Formi and royal oak are all royal navy,
Plymouth is currently 800/900 tech points.

[atomic abyss]

helena meta is a good DPS
the issue is new players dont have the means to raise meta ships

[worldly pewter]

in order to farm the old meta fights u want to at least 2 shot them

[tame jungle]

helena meta has a different use case, but you just won't even be able to run her even if you got her since META upgrading system is different to normal ships' upgrading

[odd flare]

I just got impacable, formi and royal oak so im using them to get 900/900 tech points with plymouth

[atomic abyss]

then mlb them?

which only needs level 70?

[odd flare]

i dont have enough bulins.

[atomic abyss]

then that's an entirely different issue