gameplay-help

[hallow mountain]

no

[atomic abyss]

get it from protocore/gearlab then

[hallow mountain]

not yet at least

[dreamy blade]

usually it's the first thing you buy with protocore

[atomic abyss]

why do you even have the triple 410

[hallow mountain]

i have no idea

it's just there free to craft

[atomic abyss]

oh right
didnt musashi event drop this gun

[dreamy blade]

that means your research focus isnt set correctly to 5/7

[keen sable]

Are you old?

[dreamy blade]

it's a pr1 gun

[dreamy blade]

or you got it from this yeah

[atomic abyss]

yep, most likely from musashi event

[hallow mountain]

yeah

like a pretty old player, I didn't play the Musashi event

[frank pulsar]

triple 410 is fine as ap gun for placeholder
just +10 and use it until you get champy gun

[gusty warren]

Should I use HE or AP on medium armour?

[sweet schooner]

Use her copy for limit break?

[harsh gust]

there's nothing else to do with it anyway so yes

[sweet schooner]

Aight

[harsh gust]

/armour

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/877421174114631700/1020079467672125481/Ammo_Modifiers_Chart_AL_updated_9-15-22.jpg

[gusty warren]

Seems like either SAP or AP

Thanks.

[forest palm]

there's only 2 useful guns in the game that use SAP

[gusty warren]

I think I got one of em

It's the rainbow one

[iron lily]

should I spend those on the SR bullin, or should I get enterprise first as a fresh account? Enterprise would replace Hiryuu

[cobalt rapids]

enterprise

[polar lion]

Any ez way to farm affinity?

[cobalt rapids]

sorties

[white agate]

mvp

[cobalt rapids]

you said easy not fast

[polar lion]

Ez fast most efficient best way possible

[digital raven]

If I MLB Implacable, whats a good fleet for her for campaign? (Ik shes not good for campaign. Maybe boss?) But yeah what would a good fleet look like? So id at least know what to work her towards

[hallow mountain]

is there a priority guide for the medal and Proto shop? I need some Main gun purple plates but i'm not sure

[cobalt rapids]

well fastest would be mvp control indeed + secretary
where ? doesnt rly matter as long as its oilcapped because ull be capped by morale either way
most oil efficient would be somewhere with low oilcost or just forget about that aspect because u wanna farm other stuff at the same time anyway for other oil efficiency

[atomic abyss]

if you only have your beginner fleet, she would replace the 2nd carrier that's not unicorn
however, you're more likely to have a very high level fleet by the time you mlb impla, so you'd save impla for the 2nd fleet
what's on that will depend on what you already have to begin with

[cobalt rapids]

shes good for campaign and works in all fleets
what she replaces depends on ur other ships
altho for campaign uni is pretty much locked in mob and then in most campaign maps u also want a bb

[polar lion]

I forgor abt secretary and now it's not an option anymoar coz above 100 affinity grind. Guess it's still back to 12-1 gayming

[eternal basalt]

Raids. Prob thursday

[plain saffron]

is it confirmed raid

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt rly matter as long as its oilcapped because ull be capped by morale either way

[polar lion]

Desired hopium. Since it's been forever since we last get raid event

[eternal basalt]

We got one last 3 March events, just going off that.

[polar lion]

What event was that again?

[eternal basalt]

CNY? 2 months ago... some "forever"

[polar lion]

Oh okay

[ruby grotto]

What do I do with extra Implacable? Retire?

[cobalt rapids]

lb the original

[ruby grotto]

I have full LB

[cobalt rapids]

keep for trophy or retire

[ruby grotto]

What trophy?

[cobalt rapids]

as in for flex

[ruby grotto]

Oh ok lol thanks

[eternal basalt]

Skins

[jaunty glade]

I can take one UR to max LB, have just about of bullins - here is my current UR pool:
https://i.imgur.com/BbXjm58.png

Based on these, which would be the most effective UR - Fritz, Raffaelo or Yorktown?

I primarily base my fleets around OPSCI

[upbeat wagon]

What aux does raff want? White and black shell?

Unless timing needed

[jaunty glade]

I'm leaning towards Fritz, Yorktown doesn't seem useful based on my CV fleet, Raffaello and FDG don't mix in mob from what I understand

or is it better to just wait for the next UR

[soft raft]

Raffaello and FdG don't mix in mob
What

[jaunty glade]

thats what I was told previously, its one or the other?

[soft raft]

They are basically made for mobbing

Of course if you have Musashi then yeah they're less useful but that doesn't mean they suck at mob

[jaunty glade]

well musashi is in my bb fleet

so is Raffaello, FDG and Unicorn an effective mob fleet?

[soft raft]

White shell + Black shell or white shell + AFCT/HSFCR as required

[turbid marsh]

for opsi, they are effective, but not the most optimal i would say.

[soft raft]

For what content

[jaunty glade]

OPSCI specifically, no desire to clear w13-w15 at this time

[atomic abyss]

effective but not optimal for opsi mob

BBs in general are not optimal for opsi mob

[jaunty glade]

gotcha, so everyone leans towards raff as my next max LB as apposed to fritz/yorktown?

[eternal basalt]

Fritz

[atomic abyss]

looking at the ships above, rafa

[thick plume]

FdG is also good for bossing right?

[atomic abyss]

she is better for mobbing

[thick plume]

Or does she need Fate Sim for that?

[atomic abyss]

she needs fate sim to be run off flag

[thick plume]

Damn I just have mobbing BBs then

[jaunty glade]

ok thank you! I'll do Rafa then

[thick plume]

[upbeat wagon]

Is raff a flag bb?

[wind hazel]

no but most of the time you'd be flagging your mob ship as flag anyway

ok that came out weird. you'd put your mob bb as flag*

[digital raven]

I alrdy have her MLB Impla since I got 4 ur bulins and i decided to js put them on her since i only got Shinano, and im a bit further away from FtG like weeks or months away, and just got these 4 ur bulins this week

So i guess ill replace impla with my 2nd carrier thats not uni, most likely my richilieu i guess?

[atomic abyss]

richelieu is not a carrier

[digital raven]

Oh wait, I think my backline is

[atomic abyss]

also, looking at your fleet

enterprise is level 89 already

i would not replace her at this point

[digital raven]

Yea i just spammed exp cards on her that i got from homecomer event thingy

I can do the same for impla if its gna be a good fun boost for my fleet, i alrdy feel bad havin her lying around

Btw, does it matter why i shud rush FtG instead of someone from PR4?

[atomic abyss]

the difference will not be noticeable at this point, focus on enty

[atomic abyss]

very easily accessible rainbow rarity BB
PR4 doesnt have that

you have to raise all 3 skill for implacable anyways

[normal cedar]

If running 9 ships gives you max commander exp, does that,mean no. of fleet 1+ fleet 2+ subs should be greater than 9?

[atomic abyss]

no?

commander exp is dependent on no. of ships used in a particular battle, not the map

[digital raven]

I guess im sorta thinking long term that if im gna invest on enty then prob replace her some time, might as well start w implacable since im alrdy on mlb w her and js start from there

[atomic abyss]

you wont replace enty for a looooooong time

[digital raven]

Ohh

[atomic abyss]

unless you already have 3 UR carriers mlb

[normal cedar]

what does this mean in wiki then...

[upbeat wagon]

so i could run her with lets say non fs FdG?

[digital raven]

Damn oki, so i shud be focusing more on my vanguards? As my backline seems solid?

[atomic abyss]

sortie = battle
not the map

you have several sorties/battles per map

the 9 is, as you said, 6 ships in the fleet + 3 subs

[wind hazel]

if bossing fleet yeah

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks! exactly what I needed to know

[atomic abyss]

you shd focus on levelling this fleet as much as you can, and then after a while, we can look to build the 2nd fleet
right now you dont have enough to form a second fleet

[digital raven]

So i shud just keep the 4 UR Bulins for now?

And i guess focusing to have an FtG?

[atomic abyss]

if you REALLY want to use implacable, it's really up to you
i just personally would rather you save the exp books when you do need to raise a second fleet

[digital raven]

Mhm, appreciate the insight

[atomic abyss]

do consider that limit breaking a UR is also a huge coin drain

[upbeat wagon]

Why not for mobbing? Does mobbing need 2 cv

[atomic abyss]

the final LB is 20k after all, pretty costly

[wind hazel]

1bb2cv is very standard for campaign

[digital raven]

I did not know that. But damn, smthn to consider

[atomic abyss]

and you need 60k for fdg

[nocturne glade]

Does implacable banner end at the beginning or end of the listed date? (In this case the 26th)

[atomic abyss]

26th is wednesday, so last day to get her

events always end on thursday reset

[nocturne glade]

Ah I see, ty!

[digital raven]

Thanks for the tips and ideas my guy, maybe im a newbie who wants to js have fun with my shiny UR and trying to incorporate them on my fleet asap, and ill stress on the rest

In any case, thanks alot for the insight

[nocturne glade]

45k coins in 2 days is more then doable then

[orchid reef]

what stuff on kaga
(fighter, dive bomber, torpedo bomber)

[atomic abyss]

do also consider that URs eat more oil
which is kinda limited for new players

[digital raven]

Around hm more oil compared to an Sr?

[atomic abyss]

not sure why you're using kaga considering how bad she is, even with akagi
but corsair helldiver tenzan
seeing as you lack a 2nd helldiver, ju-87c, could also use the +6 fairy firefly temporarily (also worse than helldiver)
ignore the BTD

[brave trail]

vegetable's opsi fleet help

[normal cedar]

should I get u96 from medal shop if I only have 2 elite subs rn?

[atomic abyss]

you shd if you have enough medals, she's a very good sub
but you wont be using subs for a while

[normal cedar]

okk, not using subs is fine just wanted to fill out the 3 sub spaces, thanks

[orchid reef]

cuz shinano is not mlb

[atomic abyss]

well i would use neither then

i would rather you use unicorn with something like saratoga

[orchid reef]

dont have her, but i have unicorn on retrofit

[atomic abyss]

what do you have then

[orchid reef]

lemme show

[fast frigate]

yo i bought the lv70 commander pack where do i claim it

[iron lily]

Once I got the free Nelson copy from the newcomer event, should I replace my Pennsylvania with her?

[orchid reef]

kaga fan :3

[atomic abyss]

taihou would be so much better than kaga
as would essex

[soft raft]

Also please don't limit break your URs unless you can MLB her in one go

[atomic abyss]

should be in mail

[atomic abyss]

sure, if you can level her up to the same level

[fast frigate]

i dont see it

[knotty dome]

is it worth getting a second copy of fairey firefly from event shop

[turbid marsh]

I would cause 15000 pt is quite a lot

[digital raven]

Hey isnt Roon nice to have if ur planning to grind Iron Blood exp for FtG?

Also which iron blood vanguards can i get using the war archives? Which ones shud i be looking for

[shell willow]

you claimed your mails? maybe its an item in depot that you need to use, im not sure

[wind hazel]

if you can develop her in time, yeah. roon z23 z1/whatever IB vanguard you can get is fine for grinding

[fast frigate]

i didnt claimed my mail

i didnt even get a mail

[wind hazel]

look for divergent chessboard in war archives

[soft raft]

For tech points yes
She cannot contribute to FdG XP grind

[wind hazel]

💀 oh yeah forgo

[soft raft]

Yeah was about to say

[wind hazel]

at least faction tech

still need scharn+gnei from DC i guess

[glossy granite]

Do i get rid off Graf or Howe for Implacable?

My submarines also a mess lol

[wind hazel]

i mean your hood is 120 already, and you have FDG Raff...

[glossy granite]

I meant Howe lmao my bad

[wind hazel]

graf

assuming that's a mlb impla

[abstract ore]

Why you getting rid of it?

[glossy granite]

Diff word than replacing

And ye i got the 4 bullins to mlb Implacable

[abstract ore]

Why not just keep both howe and graf?

[wind hazel]

because graf is kinda mid, and implacable is very good

only good reason to use graf is you're grinding backline PR exp

even her tech isn't good

[abstract ore]

I just kept anything i got for collection, i mean if you dont have the docks, yeah maybe getting rid of graf is okay

[wind hazel]

getting rid from fleet, not scrapping her

[abstract ore]

Ahh

[glossy granite]

When i said get rid off i didnt mean discarding them from my dock 😭

[abstract ore]

Mb, i thought "getting rid of it" mean like scraping her for metal

[wind hazel]

😭

[glossy granite]

Why the hell would i ever do that 😭

[abstract ore]

Dock space most likely🙃

[glossy granite]

To get help do i always need to type the most specific perfect english

[abstract ore]

It helps tho

[atomic abyss]

You need to use coherent English

Not perfect

[glossy granite]

Or coherent yea

[atomic abyss]

If it's incoherent, we can't understand, we can't help

That's about it

[abstract ore]

Maybe use switching instead getting rid of, i get the wrong idea cuz of that

[wind hazel]

i mean...

[abstract ore]

lol

[wind hazel]

and i understood him perfectly ~_~

[glossy granite]

Well ender whats your opinion, just hearing everyones thoughts

[atomic abyss]

Your English is fine though

[abstract ore]

Understandable

[atomic abyss]

There are people with worse English here

[glossy granite]

Replace graf for implacable? You also agree yes

Just making mind maps here

[abstract ore]

Yeah in that case

[atomic abyss]

If impla MLB, as per what you said, yes

[glossy granite]

I have the 4 bullins so i can MLB her right now, unless you want me to go for Z52 or Fritz

Also i apologize if my english may be a bit incoherent at times, Often times i am looking for short cuts and just want fast help with minimal effort in my coherence lol

[tawdry halo]

Am I cooked or not

[wind hazel]

cooked in term of what

[tawdry halo]

overall dock

[abstract ore]

Not really id say

[tawdry halo]

for a 17 days old acc

[wind hazel]

looks fine

[glossy granite]

However that fleet lol

[wind hazel]

maybe a little unnecessary spending on your gold bulin

[glossy granite]

Def playing by instinct

[tawdry halo]

I got them for free

[tawdry halo]

what fleet?

[wind hazel]

and very bad UR bulin spending...

[glossy granite]

You get them free, wdym

[rose cosmos]

what are the better stages to farm exp for sub 80 ships, I'm out of books

[abstract ore]

Uvh perseus and uni, pretty good mob clearing fleet for starter

[tawdry halo]

I spent them on UVH

[wind hazel]

yes, that's the bad part

[tawdry halo]

💔 ??

I was told to bench UVH until I get the UR bulins-

[wind hazel]

should have benched forever

now you can't mlb your implacable thanks to that

[abstract ore]

Why tho, uvh aint that bad

[worldly pewter]

maybe it was with dupes 17 days is very recent

[wind hazel]

you're not looking at the bigger picture

[glossy granite]

Please stick to 1 fleet

[rose cosmos]

next month reset is 8 days away though tbf

[tawdry halo]

but I dont think I will be using Implacable for a while

[wind hazel]

you can only get 2.5 UR bulin by next month

[abstract ore]

Yep

[wind hazel]

yes because you spent the UR bulin that could have made her useable on someone else

[tawdry halo]

wdym by duping

[rose cosmos]

btw where do you farm exp for low level ships

[tawdry halo]

I dont even have good gears for Implacable

[wind hazel]

so unless you get extremely lucky tomorrow and wednesday, it's a bit of a big fuck up

[tawdry halo]

I could just slowly grind for the UR bulins...

[wind hazel]

you can use purple corsair, a helldiver, a barracuda and she's perfectly fine for campaign

[worldly pewter]

u seem like u spent a lot in the special banner so u might have gotten uvh duplicates to use for stars

[rose cosmos]

I'm doing 11-1 and the mobs kicked my ply/impla ass even though I geared them all the good planes

[abstract ore]

Btw, what the best lab gear dive bomber

[tawdry halo]

I spent tickets and maybe 40 cubes

[wind hazel]

what's your highest campaign map

[rigid onyx]

tenrai!

[rose cosmos]

14-4

[abstract ore]

Exclude that, im 1 UR plant print away

[tawdry halo]

besides I dont have good gears for Implacable

[wind hazel]

go 12-1

[tame jungle]

then nothing

[wind hazel]

actually, what level are they?

[worldly pewter]

from where did u get the 2 bulins for uvh ?

[tawdry halo]

and it would take age to get her to catch up to my main fleet, best place she would go to is my 2nd fleet

[abstract ore]

What about the golds

[tame jungle]

use helldiver

[tawdry halo]

seasonal cruise, and then one from the proto shop

[rose cosmos]

their only 80, I can't get them to 12-1 without overspending oil

[tame jungle]

don't use the golds, use the helldiver

[abstract ore]

The the proto US dive bomber good?

[glossy granite]

Dosent matter too much at your lvl shes just that good, pls stop coping

[wind hazel]

explain, i don't understand

[rigid onyx]

nothing else is worthwhile

if you want to get the answer the helldiver gold upgrade is best, probably but it's expensive and not really worth

[tame jungle]

purple helldiver, not gold
gold not even an upgrade unless at +13 and that's not worth it

[tawdry halo]

and I think UR bulins can always be grinded back?

[worldly pewter]

just for some meta inputs
all the permanent ur ships in the special banner aren't worth raising with ur bulins except shinano

[abstract ore]

Id say i have plenty of that upgrade stuff

[tame jungle]

don't waste your mats

[glossy granite]

They take a while and also why are you using 3 fleets lol

[tawdry halo]

I swear there were people who told me to bench UVH until I get UR bulins

[rigid onyx]

If you're new your Ur bulin income is less than your UR ship income so it's kinda a waste to use it on slightly powercrept rainbow ships. That being said, this chat is completely overblowing how bad mlbing UvH is.

[tawdry halo]

cross barrage

[glossy granite]

At your lvl you should stick to just 1 fleet

[rigid onyx]

It's simultaneously true that you shouldnt use UvH unless mlb and that there are better thing to use UR bulins on

[wind hazel]

it is bad, because it's a 2LB UVH, while your Implacable is stuck at 0LB

what world is this not straight up bad

[worldly pewter]

how is this salvageable from ur perspective i think committing to uvh might be a bad idea

i see shinano and implacable in the dock

[wind hazel]

i'd rather even MLB NJ before UVH lmfao

[tawdry halo]

😭

I'm not even gonna use Implacable for a while, it would take forever for her to catch up and enter my main fleet

[wind hazel]

im not gonna repeat myself again

[glossy granite]

Wait you have Shinano and Implacable and you Limit break Ulrich 😭 This is what i call when you make up your own things

[rigid onyx]

Do not pull only for the permanent URs as you will be able to get them indirectly from events. By pulling on the permanent pools. you will wastefully deplete your cubes and you won't have enough cubes to pull the new few events. The permanent UR pity allows you to select a UR after 200 pulls and these pulls include non-UR EVENT banners. Ideally you would want to only pull during events and you will get the permanent URs for free.

Even if you do get a UR ship (either from events or permanent banners), she is not useful until she is max limit broken. This is because non-MLB ships are worse than most every other ship in the game.

Basically summerizes the whole conversation

Judging by your account you shouldnt even have UvH atm

[tawdry halo]

I got UvH on the 1st day

dont blame me, game just make my RNG questionable

[rose cosmos]

Like I went to throw these geeks to 11-1 to farm exp, they did not survive lol, not even til the boss

[little tree]

Bench uvh and don't use any more bullins on her.

[wind hazel]

why are you using 1:1 ~_~

[tame jungle]

what's poppin gph

[wind hazel]

are you aware that chapter 9 onwards have oil cap

[tawdry halo]

well then

[rigid onyx]

It's 1 UR bulin no big deal

[rose cosmos]

So just throw everything to 12-1?

[tawdry halo]

2*

[wind hazel]

yes, go 3:3 full fleet

[stark quiver]

use a full fleet

[tame jungle]

farm with full fleets on 12-1 instead, you're taking the piss

[tawdry halo]

one from seasonal cruise, one from the shop

[rigid onyx]

Is 12-1 even better if you account for 120+ moral bonus (than 12-4)

[tame jungle]

12-1 is easier

[tawdry halo]

how many UR bulins are available per 1 month

[rigid onyx]

~2(+)

[wind hazel]

more coin, can drop cogs, easier than 11-1

[tawdry halo]

yea I think I'm fine...

just need to grind the seasonal cruise missions for an extra UR bulin

[wind hazel]

12-1 has better exp:oil ratio. if you want more coin then do 12-4. if you value oil then 12-1

[rigid onyx]

that being said UvH is powercrept from a rainbow perspective. If you like her go for it but it's not as functional as other URs

[little tree]

Use bullins on implace or other ur uvh is so niche you will bench her first over other ur s

[tawdry halo]

I got UVH on the 1st day, Shinano on the 3rd day of the acc

[tame jungle]

why the fuck are you pulling on special

[tawdry halo]

dont blame me, that is a truth 🙏

[wind hazel]

maybe it's not too late to tell you this Mina, but only do 1 daily LIGHT pull outside of event

[tame jungle]

or heavy

[tawdry halo]

I always do that

[wind hazel]

you did not

[tame jungle]

well clearly not since you got uvh and shinano 😭

[worldly pewter]

u have 2 roads here
ignore uvh and look forward to the next URs in the cn anni
commit to uvh and maybe u might have enough by the cn anni to get either the cn anni or implacable to mlb

[rose cosmos]

Isn't 888 kind of too much?

[tawdry halo]

tried my luck in the first 10 pulls after tutorial in extra, got both UVH and Perseus

[tame jungle]

i do not care

[rose cosmos]

Or it's ok

[wind hazel]

it's normal

[tawdry halo]

I mean I did that after the 3rd day

[tame jungle]

just because you got lucky doesn't mean it was a good decision

[wind hazel]

keep at it then

[jaunty glade]

End Game - OPSCI Fleet Improvements

[little tree]

We are trying to tell you 1 daily light pull a day outside of UR banners

[stark quiver]

its better than 1600

[tame jungle]

if you wanna waste your cube income on perma banners be my guest but don't come crying when you inevitably start missing ships

[stark quiver]

hey i did that too

[tame jungle]

it's ok i forgive you!

[little tree]

Since you help me I forgive u

[stark quiver]

aquila fishing gone wrong moment

[worldly pewter]

also looking from ur profile
why u didn't become a fellow jp spy ? and started in en

[tawdry halo]

I'm not a Japanese

I'm a Vietnamese

[wind hazel]

💀 full weeb

[glossy granite]

Indeed

[wind hazel]

like im one to talk

[worldly pewter]

whaling in jp server is impossible too unless u pay from jp

[tawdry halo]

I gave up AL during the 2020s

never got any URs on my old acc anyway so I dont care

[glossy granite]

In 2020 there was only 1 UR 😭

[tame jungle]

we're still in the 2020s

[glossy granite]

I remember when Shinano and NJ came out holy

[eternal moth]

I had just started playing when NJ came out, so I missed the initial Shinano release

[tawdry halo]

Have only used 200 gems so far on 10 extra dock slot

[wind hazel]

boomers

[eternal moth]

My first event was the VV/Aquila one.

[glossy granite]

But i was a complete idiot back then so i quit after around summer 2021 and came back this december

[tawdry halo]

also back to the topic, except for the UR things, what's the problem about my spendings on SR bulins?

I use SR Bulins for Enty

[worldly pewter]

try to rush to 15k points in the event for the ur bulin

[wind hazel]

that's good

[tame jungle]

SR bulins on enty is fine

it's just that other ships don't nearly give you the same return on investment as she gives and early game they're kinda hard to acquire

[stark quiver]

my first event was lil renown

[tawdry halo]

about the 1lmb Essex I have, I just got a copy of her and decided to shove Essex straight into lmbing herself

[tame jungle]

that's also fine

[wind hazel]

perseus is a little sus, and sandy is a bit expensive at the moment, but since already invested just keep them

[rigid onyx]

If you want the explanation of the chat about rolling Heavy/Special and what to use UR bulins on it's a bit long but I'll try to keep it concise.

Every year, there are usually 4 Rerun UR events and 4 Gacha UR events. 2-3 of these events from now on will probably have a shop UR. With the UR bulin from ladder, each event requires 3 UR Bulins per UR. This is about 33 Bulins required per year.

You get 2 Bulins a month. That's bout 24 Bulins a year. This means that you'll have to skip out on MLBing ~2 Gacha URs a year.

Every permanent UR means another Gacha UR you have to skip MLBing, and due to the nature of powercreep these new or rerun URs are usually much better (see: Bismark Zwei vs UVH).

Rolling for dupes is unviable as it'll only be a minor supplement (2 weeks of UR bulin income per UR) while costing ~150 cubes on average per dupe, making you have to miss out on URs. The cube income is really generous but not enough to allow you to roll dupes.

So in general people don't advise rolling for permanent URs for 2 main reasons:

1. It costs cubes you can use for new gacha URs, making it very possible to miss a UR
2. To use, it'll cost UR Bulins that forces you to skip another gacha UR.

[eternal moth]

SR bulins are a fairly scarce resource, and you can't whale for them, so it's recommended to limit your usage of golds when first starting

[wind hazel]

get sandy's augment, and later on her retro(which is more bulin needed)

[tawdry halo]

alright, acknowledged

[digital raven]

Where can I get Iron Blood ships to grind FtG exp?

[jaunty glade]

can I bug someone for some advice in #1353739825689268315

[rigid onyx]

On the other hand if you find UvH hot and want to use her because she's cool it's not a big deal

[tawdry halo]

the Star Blaster?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[worldly pewter]

just to add onto this
i roll for dupes but this also will limit the non ur event pulls to 70 at most for a consistently active player

[tawdry halo]

I guess I will just keep her as she is and forget about the 2 UR bulins that sacrificed

[molten zinc]

[tame jungle]

if it's off topic then don't bring it up

[tawdry halo]

why is my YT recommendation showing Boulevard of Broken Dreams 💔

[harsh gust]

it is indeed offtopic

[glossy granite]

Best ways to get Aquila?

[rigid onyx]

1984

[tawdry halo]

so in fact I would need 2 to 3 months to fully lmb Implacable

[tame jungle]

wait for wishing well or get lucky

[worldly pewter]

ww

[digital raven]

Whos a better UR to start investing first, Shinano or Implacable

[tawdry halo]

and then another extra 2 to 3 months to fully LMB Mamano

[eternal moth]

2 months is easily doable

[worldly pewter]

u are not factoring in the ur events

[rigid onyx]

in 3 months you'll see biszwei & a new UR, probably

[tawdry halo]

I'm cooked

[abstract ore]

Does anyone have lvl 15 hornet meta fleet

[eternal moth]

12k points per 2 months, cruise pass, and any UR events

[rigid onyx]

the repeatable stuff is 2/month

[glossy granite]

When do we get a new cruise pass again

[molten zinc]

next week

[digital raven]

Help

[tame jungle]

should be start of next month

[worldly pewter]

the consistent one is cat soyuz fritz z52 ply unzen i think

[rigid onyx]

Have they given mail UR bulins?

[stark quiver]

u can mlb shinano from perma pity

[tawdry halo]

also for the mean time, since the UR event is still on-going, do I just do 1 pull in the UR pool everyday and hope Implacable drop? (Or if I am given with tickets)

[abstract ore]

Cat?

[tame jungle]

it's always tickets first then cube if you didn't get the ship

[eternal moth]

I'd keep going for Implacable, she's a pretty important ship to get.

[abstract ore]

Ah

[glossy granite]

Implacable, Didnt me and another guy help you with everything lol

[tawdry halo]

I already have her, I'm just benching her as of now

[rigid onyx]

Doing the 1 UR pull/day is valuing a bulin at ~70 cubes iirc

[molten zinc]

and because it's a rerun always wait until the last day before you decide to mlb the UR ship

[eternal moth]

Oh, then don't worry about dupes

[tawdry halo]

0lmb Implacable dusting my dock

[tame jungle]

then just spend tickets only

[abstract ore]

Havent got nakimov and ply rn, any alternative?

[rigid onyx]

Just run 3 UR BB with helena atp

[tawdry halo]

there's always a mission to build 1 ship

[tame jungle]

yeah? so? with a ticket you're still building a ship

[tawdry halo]

so in fact I dont lose any cubes if I build an UR pool

[abstract ore]

3 bb sap gun?

[tawdry halo]

the ticket missions are already gone, there's only one I believe

[eternal moth]

Yeah, which is why you spend a ticket on it while you can.

[rigid onyx]

yeah it's med

[tame jungle]

hate to break it to you but tickets aren't usable on perma banners

[tawdry halo]

the everyday 15 victories

[worldly pewter]

fritz mamagi soyuz z52 kaza helena
but this requires max conceal lucky crits and 3 scans

[rigid onyx]

If they dont have cat or ply they dont have the +13 planes to make cvs better than bbs

[digital raven]

Yeahhh, im alrdy set on investing Implacable its just I think I didnt tell u guys abt Shinano, and that I needed to mention that before making the decision

[abstract ore]

Im currently rocking w soyuz, alsace, and zwei w sap gun w helena, its that decent enough?

[rigid onyx]

Are you okay with 2-shotting

[glossy granite]

I think you did tell plenty and dont use UR bullins on Shinano, only work on Implacable for now

[worldly pewter]

i always try to avoid BB testing because i m at 17fp tech

[tawdry halo]

just gonna ask, is there any chance that uhh

[digital raven]

Alright thankss

[abstract ore]

Yeah

[rigid onyx]

that's fine

[tawdry halo]

UVH would get a buff

[abstract ore]

I mean 1 shotting is preferable but im good w 2

[worldly pewter]

they never rebalance

[rigid onyx]

She could get an aug, but there's been no precedent for a gacha UR to get one

On the other hand they gave the first rainbow an aug recently (sandy)

very possible imo, but who knows when

[tawdry halo]

the star blaster

yea I saw it

[glossy granite]

Watashi wa numba one

[tawdry halo]

would have been better if they name it "Call of the Star(s)"

[rigid onyx]

would have been better if it was called a string of 1s that crashed the game

[glossy granite]

Any slight chance of Implacable getting an Oath skin or we will never know

[rigid onyx]

was musashi the last UR that got an oath skin?

[glossy granite]

Why are they so picky with wedding skins

[tawdry halo]

Idk what am I doing atp

I'm 4 levels away before I can intrude 7-1

there isnt much to do below lv60

[worldly pewter]

did u reach 15k points in the event ?

[tawdry halo]

Almost

[glossy granite]

Get that done asap for ur bullin yes

[tawdry halo]

So basically a spare UR Bulin for Implacable

And then just gonna farm more (poor Shinano)

So what do I do after fully lmb Implacable?

Do I just... gamble for the next UR and repeat the progress?...

[little tree]

Bis Zwei might re run by that time

[glossy granite]

You mlb the next new limited UR you get, could be Bismarck Zwei or a brand new one

[tawdry halo]

This summer is gonna be crazy

[tawdry halo]

Biscuit Zwei

🍪

[glossy granite]

Charlie chaplin not gonna be happy hearing that

[tawdry halo]

imagine Implacable rerun next year

[little tree]

it wont

[tame jungle]

this is the rerun

[glossy granite]

This is the rerun lol

[tawdry halo]

brain died off, sincere apology

[eternal moth]

This is the rerun; in about a year she'll be added to perma and WA

[little tree]

i know

[tawdry halo]

...

What in the...

[eternal moth]

Sorry, meant to send that to Mina.

[glossy granite]

I swear i just want to drag my UR exchange as long i can for Musashi perma which will have to wait till this winter probably

[tawdry halo]

so I'm currently having quite a weird future layout for my main fleet

[worldly pewter]

u do that only if u ignore the non ur events
if u pull the SR events then get shinano at least

[glossy granite]

Guys im at 253/400 do i delay until Musashi or just shut up and get that Shinano dupe?

[tawdry halo]

Fully LMB Implacable - Retro Nelson - Retro Unicorn (Main) + Retro Portland - Retro Nimi - Retro Sandy (Vanguard)

[tame jungle]

waste of time, just use it

[wind hazel]

keeping pity is pepega move

[worldly pewter]

personally it took me 7 months to reach a pity so u need some calculations here

[tawdry halo]

so how much is this gonna do chat?

[wind hazel]

especially if you are still missing those perma UR like shinano

or not MLB yet

[upbeat wagon]

Should my Z52 or Helena be off tank, both level 120 and similar aux

[glossy granite]

I got Shinano when she came out but shes not LB at all

[wind hazel]

then get until she's mlb

[wind hazel]

who is tanking

[glossy granite]

So if i were to exchange its either MLB shinano or dragging it until Musashi

[upbeat wagon]

Roon

[wind hazel]

let roon off tank, put z52 as main tank

[worldly pewter]

dd and cl rarely share the same aux except the tool kit

[little tree]

z52 main tanks all of Campaign well.

[upbeat wagon]

Alright

I should level 125 my Z52 right?

[rigid onyx]

why

[wind hazel]

why would you put a less ehp unit as main tank

[tawdry halo]

how fine is this

[eternal moth]

Brain fart, for some reason was thinking of Z23, not 52

[wind hazel]

[rigid onyx]

it's fairly safe to 125 every rainbow

[tame jungle]

germans love their numbers

[eternal moth]

Nein

[glossy granite]

Z zweiundfunfzig

[elfin hollow]

Is it worth buying something?

[eternal moth]

gold bulin

[tame jungle]

yea the bulins

[worldly pewter]

save until u need u37

[boreal wagon]

sir your forgot the funny dots

[tame jungle]

i've had enough. overengineer this man

[upbeat wagon]

This is ok right?

[glossy granite]

My bad i just remembered how to do ü

[upbeat wagon]

I have a golden version of the gun too but san diego is using it

[worldly pewter]

i have no idea what the golden aux does but if it is tlr one use the fp

[upbeat wagon]

Just hp

[elfin hollow]

In what sense?

[boreal wagon]

you can also type ue instead of ü its the official fallback (same for the other 2)

[glossy granite]

Zweiundfünfzig

[eternal moth]

If this is the one you mean, then I'd try to make another one for Z52

[upbeat wagon]

Nope the round shaped one

[glossy granite]

I can read german dw, my keyboard is swedish so i have ä aswell

[upbeat wagon]

Is that gun bad

[eternal moth]

I don't know which gun you mean.

[wind hazel]

which round lol, 127?

[worldly pewter]

ships cost 20k points
when u want to do advanced stages from w14 subs become very handy
also there is dork that gives 2rld for the BBs which also costs 20k so spend the excess of 40k merits on bulins until u need more tech ships

[upbeat wagon]

113

twin 113mm

[wind hazel]

... isn't that AA gun

[upbeat wagon]

Yeah?

I was asking the AA gun

[worldly pewter]

the upgrades that u can do are
the single golden DD gun as hamal showed
improved quad torp that u should have gotten from the event shop
any SR AA gun
a purple aug double sword
fp aux instead of the golden one

[wind hazel]

ah. i got mixed up with you replying to hamaal's main gun

[upbeat wagon]

I think I have the torp but kazagume was using it

Z52 should have it right?

[wind hazel]

just keep it on sandy if you don't have any other gold AA* gun to use

[upbeat wagon]

And twin 113mm currently on sandy

[wind hazel]

let your musashi/fdg use this, grab the gold gun and put on z52

fuck i forgot paste the pic

[upbeat wagon]

This one on Z52?

[wind hazel]

use this on musashi/fdg

[upbeat wagon]

And twin 113 on Z52?

[wind hazel]

the one you replaced, put it on z52

[upbeat wagon]

Ok

[wind hazel]

most likely it wont even matter

but letting your BB having more HIT stat is good

[worldly pewter]

but 5 hit

[wind hazel]

5 is 5

[stark quiver]

5 more than 0

[wind hazel]

hypernod.gif

[crisp geode]

Where do i get Leipzig?

[novel solstice]

Leipzig is a collection reward for getting and limitbreaking the K sisters

[crisp geode]

Oh, i need to mlb the 1* ?

[novel solstice]

(Konigsberk, Koln, Karlsrhue)

Yeah.

Max limit break all of them.

[crisp geode]

Where do i access the collection stuff?

[vocal sandal]

do i retire bad epic ships once theyre mlb?

or do i get them to 120 and then retire

[atomic abyss]

120 for their fleet tech bonus that gives stats

[vocal sandal]

hmm ok

[hushed delta]

I used to retire them once mlb'ed if they are farmable or easily obtainable elites

[wind hazel]

main menu, memento, collection

[novel solstice]

At the bottom right, hit the little two arrows button, then memento, then collection tab, then scroll to the bottom to find the Konigsberg set.

[vocal sandal]

ayt ayt

[turbid dawn]

It seems to be RNG if I can 1 shot this meta boss then with this setup+gear, it all depends on if the backline gets revealed or not it seems. Is Helena technically the better choice or not because I guess it's still RNG if she procs her skill or not. With the current setup it does 95-100% and just doesn't feel consistent enough

[hushed delta]

using helena is a cheap move

how is your unzen doing so much dmg? pls share gear

[rose olive]

Gotta ask this question because I have played a lot of gachas and the RNG in this game confounds me.

I’m level 71 and have been playing for several events. I haven’t been too focused on saving for pity but I have pulled across all categories over 300 times by now. So far I have 0 UR’s despite there being a 1.2% chance. Is my RNG just that bad or is there more to how RNG works in this game maybe on a per event basis? I’m talking about things like draw cliffs or other types of internal adjusts to the rates that may not be as apparent to a relatively new player like me?

[elfin hollow]

@worldly pewter So for now, collect, but it's better to spend it on bowls

[hushed delta]

jeez imagine having enough resources to +13 those rainbow auxs and wep

[soft raft]

1. Do NOT pull heavy and special, as event pools often take from either of the two
2. Sounds like very poor prioritization of your cubes and you might simply just be using your cubes on the wrong banners in general

SR events do not have any perament URs in the pool as well

[turbid dawn]

I mean Uznen is like the best DPS VG (vs med+heavy) in the game, it only makes sense you'd +13 the gear she uses

[fast frigate]

anyone know how long it normally takes for support ticket mail to reply

[soft raft]

shouldnt be too long unless you emailed them on like a Friday or some shit

[hushed delta]

I know, I just can't afford it lol

[bold surge]

Depends on their working hours

[fast frigate]

ok

[hushed delta]

2 times I contacted it was quite quickly done

[fast frigate]

hm alr ty

[viscid swift]

you could try switching her to a lance

[hallow mountain]

is there a priority list for the medal shop? Or can I just pick whatever

I need purple main gun plates

[glossy granite]

When did ägir maid skin last time rerun? That hand gesture is selling me

[soft raft]

Enterprise > Hood > Whoever you need for tech points
as for items, whatever you need tho the retrofit BPs are pretty overpriced fwiw

[worldly pewter]

oh u are the one using translator
yes collect the points until you reach 40 000 then you can spend the surplus on the 'bulins' because there are 2 ships that you might want to consider in the future 'u-37' and 'duke of york'

[ivory pawn]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal
Personally I rate the spec core highly if you still have to pick and choose between URs to MLB.

[soft raft]

It was released during Vanguard event, which had already reran last year

who knows if it'll be perma before Black Friday this year

[glossy granite]

Brutal

[hallow mountain]

I already have them (Enty is my wife)
Just talking about the shop which i need, the rest of the BBs I think I got who I need anyway

[elfin hollow]

I'm not very good at English, I know more or less what you wrote. But I can't write or speak much

[hallow mountain]

Aight I think I'm clear to buy my purple plates

[paper mural]

Question, what tends to be used more often in META showdowns in terms of ideal fleets? BB comps or CV comps?

[hollow gust]

Mixed fleets

[hallow mountain]

i already got a copy of Impla, should I go for more rolls or should I save? I got the rest of the girls anyway

[turbid marsh]

SAVE

[hallow mountain]

aight

[soft raft]

Save
especially if you have less than 400 cubes

[hallow mountain]

Yeah I don't I have 8

[upbeat wagon]

You probably shouldve left it at a single copy than

[hushed sorrel]

well if you like it just pull but i would also say you should save

[slender turtle]

Any advice for a decent hornet meta fleet if I dont have admiral or the 3 bb set up?

[hollow gust]

Can't recommend any fleets without knowing what ships you haven

[viscid swift]

well what have you got to work with then?

[slender turtle]

Ill make a thread rn, mb

Hornet META Fleet Help

[north wharf]

What's a 'normal' 12-4 grind setup? One fleet solo'ing it for levels with crossfleet support on reserve or just mob+boss?

[sweet delta]

Amagi shinano implacable

[hallow mountain]

mob boss

[north wharf]

And what should second option look like? 1:1 boss? Most xp goes into mob right?

[wind hazel]

just grind 12 ships you want to level

the one you want to level faster on mobs

[north wharf]

I don't have 12 dorm slots

That wasn't the one I meant to reply to

[wind hazel]

boss fleet wont be getting morale issue

[hallow mountain]

lmao

[viscid swift]

just dorm your mob fleet

[wind hazel]

it's only -2 morale every sortie lol

[hallow mountain]

well neither do i, it's your mob fleet actually

[viscid swift]

boss fleet doesn't need the moral boost

[whole crypt]

boss fleet won't get morale issues but you can still lose out on the morale bonus if you care

[north wharf]

Alright, thanks. I'll add a boss fleet to the setup then

[clear harbor]

Still no Implacable, but I got Scylla! 🎉

Would she replace Port, Helena, or Jav?

[eternal moth]

Helena probably. You want to keep Port and Jav for the beginner missions

That said, only use her if you know you'll have the bulins to limit break her fully.

[north wharf]

Between Napoli, Mogador, Unzen and Shimakaze who should I focus? (Or I guess which one ship should I not)

[eternal moth]

Shima's the least useful there

[clear harbor]

Luckily I have a few yellow bulins lying around. I just started so I haven't gotten many Super Rares. At least the ones I have gotten people have told me aren't worth investing in yet. The main issue is levels now. 😬

[eternal moth]

But do you have them all MLB already?

[north wharf]

And for main who between Nakhimov, Biscuit II, Amagi, Fritz, Raffaello and Vanguard?

[eternal moth]

Nakh, Bisco, and Fritz

[north wharf]

No, only unzen

Okay thanks

[eternal moth]

Only worry about MLB URs. That's going to take you a while

Napoli and Nakh, being research, you can work on, but they're only good once they hit at least dev25

[north wharf]

I can buy 18 out of the 20 UR bulins needed, so not that long I hope

[sweet delta]

If Scylla is as high level as your fleet, kick javelin

[weary wyvern]

Is Fate Simulation not available for Kearsarge and Hindenburg yet? 🤔

[eternal basalt]

It's not even on Ägir...

[clear harbor]

How bad should I feel about investing retrofit materials into any shipgirl I kick out? Also, why am I kicking out Jav (or Helena)? I've just been following other people's advice and I don't understand fleet composition yet.

I guess a better question is, I understand Port is my tank, but what role does Helena or Jav fill?

[sweet delta]

Starter DDs like javelin are only good for the rookie mission. You can just get her to level 85 on your fleet or with exp packs and dump her if you have a good replacement like Scylla

Helena is good for the whole game

early game DPS/generic ship, moving to the best boss debuffer in mid to end game

Rookie missions actually don't need you to completely finish Portland and javelin retrofits. But you finish Portland because she's good, and you might want to finish javelin so she can help fill 2 fleets

Scylla much stronger than javelin even after javelin is maxed, that's why you can switch in the first fleet if you have the exp to raise Scylla

[normal cedar]

is the case same for retrofit laffey as javelin..? for all of the above discussion

[whole crypt]

didn't 1 of the rookie missions ask for lv100 starter, but it's probably just oil you can pick up later

[sweet delta]

Oh rookie missions need the starter DD at level 100. Use your own judgment as to when you're going to be close to complete everything else and whether you need Enterprise or San Diego

[clear harbor]

Rookie missions are the thing in the upper right left? Mine says "Newcomer"?

[solar canopy]

Is this fleet good for Heavy Boss? I'm not sure about my Vanguard composition.

Main: Shinano, Hakuryuu, Amagi(CV)
Vanguard: Sirius, Kazagumo, Eldridge(Retrofit)

I have Helena, but her skills are gacha so I replaced her with Sirius.

Or should I stick with Helena? Or are there any other ship recommendations?

[ruby grotto]

who should I LB?

[clear harbor]

Unrelated to my above questions, is there any reason to keep extra copies of a ship I've already MLB'ed?

[soft raft]

mainly for flexing
but otherwise they serve no pratical purpose

[turbid marsh]

if you are interested in... combat power sure. but any than flex + fleet power, no.

[sweet delta]

For leaderboards

[sweet delta]

Always show all URs including maxed ones

[sweet delta]

It's passable, but usually better would be implacable over haku and z52/unzen over Sirius

[worldly pewter]

i was using the fleet against taihou m but it never oneshot without barrage
the best they did was 1.57m

[solar canopy]

Hoo okay...Too bad my Implacable is not good yet. But thanks for the information.

[obtuse kelp]

Hello who can help me with early game team?

[ruby grotto]

all good thanks, went with alsace, can't go wrong, also got z52

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[obtuse kelp]

What is that

[whole crypt]

what you asked for

[obtuse kelp]

Oh

[obtuse kelp]

Ty

[limpid dock]

is there any reason to open purple boxes or is it just for collecting for no reason (i dont need purple gear that much anymore)

[forest palm]

gear lab component

MK6, and Helldiver are still somewhat relevant if you can't break into Tenrai, and MK7

potential Tool Kits, Torp Bulges, Auto Loaders
so they're good to have incase you need to scavenge for something, but I wouldn't needlessly open them

[rocky tinsel]

Is there a way to unequip all ships not currently in your fleets?

[bold surge]

no

[cobalt rapids]

nope

[rocky tinsel]

bummer

[cobalt rapids]

but u can quickswap equipped gear onto ur current ships

[rocky tinsel]

After Portland, what's a better tank I can aim to aquire? I have Phoenix mob tanking at the moment, but I don't see anything in reach for me.

[cobalt rapids]

anchorage

[eternal basalt]

After that Agir or Napoli

[fast frigate]

is helena and portland good for beginners

[atomic abyss]

the best

[fast frigate]

whats their role

[atomic abyss]

helena is the best debuffer in the game
portland is a good early game tank

[fast frigate]

so should i use laffey helena and portland

[atomic abyss]

yes, that's in the beginner guide too

[rocky tinsel]

Is there a way to sort for only locked ships in the dock?

[fast frigate]

what should i use taihou or illustrious or centaur

[atomic abyss]

to use alongside unicorn and your battleship? i'd lean more to centaur
ideal would be enterprise

[fast frigate]

ok

[soft raft]

Centaur?

[atomic abyss]

centaur and taihou are mostly similar level tbh
different areas where they work better sure but ye

[soft raft]

did she get a unique aug or something cuz I remember her being pretty meh

[atomic abyss]

she did get an aug

[cobalt gate]

what should be my focus for tech for vanguard currently?

[rocky tinsel]

For the event going on, what weapon types are best against them? AP? Normal?

[fast frigate]

is richeliu good for flag ship

[atomic abyss]

very

[soft raft]

she needs flag to function properly

[fast frigate]

k

[atomic abyss]

you dont judge by that, you judge by the gear you have

[soft raft]

FP
and maybe cruiser EVA and DD HP but FP is higher prio

[rocky tinsel]

You don't mix gear to focus the armor type of the boss for your boss fleet? I have enough of both I think

[cobalt gate]

fp for dd or finish cl/ca @soft raft

[atomic abyss]

you do eventually, i just highly doubt you're at the point where you can afford to pick and choose

[soft raft]

yes you do, but the gear has to be good as well

early on tho, you cant afford to be picky

[atomic abyss]

only BBs and CAs make changes of gun for specific armour types anyways

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter

[silk helm]

Anyone know how many UR prints would drop if I spent all on c5?

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

🎲

[cobalt gate]

i would say maybe like 1

[silk helm]

Kk guess we about to find out

[sweet delta]

Ask your god

[silk helm]

You r my god sushi

[eternal basalt]

He says 0

[fast frigate]

is limit breaking enterprise and richelieu worth it

[atomic abyss]

not just worth, you are strongly recommended to
mandatory even, if you intend to use them at all

[fast frigate]

alr

[eager marsh]

what is the most economical way to spend money for gems?

[eternal basalt]

Give scamcat money

[soft raft]

iirc buying the ones with the once-a-year 2x bonus is really good value

[eternal basalt]

Also cruise pass and lucky bag are good value IF you like the skins

[clear harbor]

Scamcat? 🤣

[fast frigate]

what ships are worth to get in research selection

[icy sluice]

Is Roon a good cruiser to have?

[atomic abyss]

too early for it to matter to you

[rocky tinsel]

My Dorm has had a little ! next to it for days, I've tried pushing on everything. Any idea what it wants from me?

[fast frigate]

but which ones are good to grind later on

[atomic abyss]

friederich de grosse and anchorage first

[icy sluice]

FDG? the big mommy type?

[atomic abyss]

good with her augment

[icy sluice]

Does she have good stats?

[atomic abyss]

rainbow so automatically good ship when fully raised

[icy sluice]

Ah i see

[atomic abyss]

not the best anymore, but still good

[fast frigate]

enterprise, richelieu, unicorn, laffey, portland, helena. is it solid fleet for beginners

[forest palm]

provided they're all MLB, Richie is flag, Portland is retro'd and vanguard lead, and Unicorn is retro'd sure

[vagrant steppe]

Whats a good stopping point on the event, should i farm all the milestone rewards?

[forest palm]

depends on if you've gotten what you need out of the shop

[vagrant steppe]

yeah mostly all i wanted, still couple of upgrade books i gotta pick up.

[bold surge]

Milestone rewards are not that worth at the end. But it doesnt hurt to get it if you are almost at one.

[vagrant steppe]

but talking more about the milestone rewards

[forest palm]

with shop demands you'll far exceed the stoping point of the milestone

cause quite frankly you could stop at 15k, but that leaves a lot of shit in the shop @vagrant steppe

[cunning kernel]

so im returning player ( well... from pretty long ago) is any old ship still relevant? should i focus on my current fleet or try to level some other ship here? ( aside from implacable)

[weary gust]

Sandy Enty Helena Sirius are the only old ships in your dock that are relevant past early game.

[bold surge]

Depends on what you want to do

[soft raft]

Illustrious is also somewhat relevant as W15 support fleet material

[forest palm]

Scylla spotted

[bold surge]

Your ships look decent so they should be able to bring you pretty far. Late game/end game is just UR ships with crazy gear anyway.

[kind slate]

How long does it take to max 3 skills?

[bold surge]

Depends on the books you use

[soft raft]

then multiply that by however many skills they have (Besides All Out Assualt for obvious reasons)

[kind slate]

Wow that takes a lot of time.

[forest palm]

not so bad, just gotta do it

[kind slate]

Is it just me or does everybody have like no yellow/red skill books and a million blue ones?

[forest palm]

well that's just common

[tame jungle]

pretty sure there's a lot more red/yellow skills than blue ones yeah

[bold surge]

red is nr1

[novel solstice]

There are a lot more red skills than the others, and somewhat more yellow than blue. So you burn red books a lot faster than blue, and yellow somewhat faster than blue.

[kind slate]

Oh right. For some reason I completely forgot I use them and thought there was difference in drop rates lol

[novel solstice]

As far as I can tell the drop rates for anything that give random books are equal. Though the guild shop lets you pick which one you want and you should always pick red, so in practice you are getting more red books than the others.

[plucky valley]

Is this a good fleet build?

[forest palm]

pretty meh

[tame jungle]

kinda all over the place

[forest palm]

Amagi isn't even MLB

nor is Shinano

[weary gust]

Amagi bc is bad, her being 3 stars makes it all the worse. Cleaveland is very meh. Wotspite and Washington both not good. Shimakaze and Shinano not mlb ... there are a lot of issues.

[forest palm]

wrong Amagi, and that's not Washington

[weary gust]

Oh that's Tosa.

[forest palm]

get some glasses

[weary gust]

I have glasses they just look the same

[tame jungle]

time to go back to the optometrist then

[plucky valley]

So what should i chance i really dont have a clue about fleets

[turbid marsh]

i mean there isn't too many fleet synergy needed at this point for you... so just jam in which ever strong ships you have and boom. i think you can hit w11 with that fleet.

[plucky valley]

I have these ships

[worldly pewter]

more importantly what are u trying to do exactly ?

also while i see the sort button orange the ships are allover the places

[plucky valley]

i want to have 2 fleets where i can clear Events and the camapign easily.

[worldly pewter]

use any 6 mlb ships and one of them is unicorn

poverty gear is ok

[turbid marsh]

events? unicorn + sandy + 2 random should be able to ram through all event + SP. boss would be nj+war+enty + laff2 +hatsu

[worldly pewter]

surprisingly u have guam uvh and soyuz and no tai yuan

tai yuan retro was in between these events

[plucky valley]

okie two more things..what cat commander should i use for each and whats a mlb ship

[soft raft]

MLB/Max Limit Break = Full stars
For Research ships it's D30 instead due to their unique system

[crisp geode]

I'm still running the beginner fleet and i got z23 as my first from the initial trio. Is it worth to retrofit Laffey and/or Javelin? So far i got z23, Helena, Unicorn and Portland retrofitted

[rose cosmos]

Is ply good for chapter 15?

[turbid marsh]

the ship is good enough for chapter 15, but not the most optimal

[weary gust]

You'll eventually retrofit them for collection, but they're extremely low priority. Save your retrofit bps for things like DDGs.

[crisp geode]

DDGs?

[sharp pine]

The Chinese destroyers that can be retrofitted into missile destroyers

[plucky valley]

So like this?

[turbid marsh]

yeah, should work for all the events. for campaign need more ofc.

and ofc, more level is preferred too.

[rocky tinsel]

What does the defense fleet do in exercises? Do you get anything if people fight you and lose?

[soft raft]

basically nothing besides be there for others to fight
so most of the time people just run pure meme level comps or just two ships

[rocky tinsel]

Ha, I mean, I just get facerolled

[sharp pine]

So this is what I am using to fight Hornet Meta and I am lucky if I am able to two shot her(I'm using Eldridge retro, the site wouldn't let me pick it). Other than some of my gear isn't maxed out, is there anything I'm messing up here?

[weary gust]

Skyraider shouldn't be used.

[turbid marsh]

anddd some are try hards that put like actuall good stuff, or have somethign like enterprise + laffey2 to con newer players

[weary gust]

Haku having the beacon throws off sync.

[rocky tinsel]

Yes, I have fallen victim to that today

The worst one was Bolzano META... how did it manage to solo my whole fleet? 😦

[soft raft]

the flying fuck is going on for your fleet to be solo'd by a single shitty elite

[weary gust]

I can only imagine there was a massive level difference

[sharp pine]

I have a +13 wyvern and a +10 Tenrai that I can lend to Implacable for the fight. Which one would be better?

[rocky tinsel]

Yeah, I don't even have a single 100 yet, and all the fleets I seem to face are wall to wall 125's

[soft raft]

Heavily depends on the content

[barren barn]

Should i always retire purple bulins?

[weary gust]

Why would you retire bulins

[barren barn]

I don't have place in my dock

[weary gust]

Get more dock space.

[barren barn]

Purple ones are for purple ships that i don't use

[sharp pine]

We're talking spefically about the Hornet Meta fight.

[weary gust]

Whatever makes timing work for stop sync.

[vale spindle]

Use the purple bulins on ships to mlb them to make room for more

[sharp pine]

Even if you don't use alot of purple ships, you should at least mlb them for the tech points

[barren barn]

Nice ty

[fast frigate]

Event ends in 2 days right?

[sharp pine]

Okay, the stop takes two seconds to fully take effect. So should Implacable be slightly faster than the other two, or should they all be as close as possible?

[atomic abyss]

as close as possible, +- 0.2s
planes need time to travel, as do torps

[rocky tinsel]

Is there anyhwere that explains how the ammo for submarines works when you summon them? It looks like you summon them, they fire off a couple torpedos, and then surface, out of ammo. Do they reload when they submerge again? Is the weekly operation the only source of sub gear?

[atomic abyss]

the ammo for subs is how many times you can use them in a map, same as normal fleets, just that they cant be used at 0 ammo

[worldly pewter]

why are u using eld with implacable ?

[atomic abyss]

when used in battle
they fire a barrage, then their normal torps
run out of oxygen and surface
stay for 10 more seconds before retreating
if their torps reload while they're on the surface, they will still fire them

the answer to your last question is no

[sharp pine]

Because I got tired of seeing my usual Meta showdown vanguard being shredded by Hornet Meta.

[silk helm]

who got a good EX comp

[buoyant mauve]

Uh any news on the next event after this one ends?

[forest palm]

#game-news exists

[subtle bluff]

So it says Implacable 1.2% pull rate. I pull 100 times, get zero. Im a veteran in this game and still do not realize how there is no soft pity system or how that even works.

[stark quiver]

I ran Fritz, Alsace and Helena

[eternal basalt]

There is a soft-system, 200 pulls

[subtle bluff]

I consider that hard

[forest palm]

it's not even pity, it's sparking

[ivory pawn]

Although it's commonly called pity, it's really more like a spark system. But eh, semantics. 🐌

[forest palm]

AL really doesn't need soft pity though

[eternal basalt]

How does that even work, with 1 choice

[forest palm]

ya...that's the funny part, soft pity would only work on perm banner and you're hurting yourself if you pull from there

[subtle bluff]

I saved awhile for Kronshtadt thats it

[eternal basalt]

Not to mention they have a pity systen there... 400 cubes, soft-pity. Add during the next EU event

[tame jungle]

100 pulls at 1.2% rate means that it's roughly a 30% chance that you do not get the UR
sure, it's unlucky but it's not that unlucky

[forest palm]

either way you get 84 guaranteed pulls per month

[subtle bluff]

I guess my luck ran out

Got Amagi CV didnt even want her

[honest stirrup]

I think you're confused on the definition of soft pity

Because the 200 build system is a hard pity

[eager mulch]

it’s not a pity system it’s a spark system

[zenith wren]

I've gotten all the ships from the limited banner without building 200 times for the pity ship. Should I keep pulling to get another Implacable for limit breaking purposes, or save my cubes?

[eager mulch]

how close are you

[tame jungle]

how far along are you?

[soft raft]

How many cubes do you have left?

[tame jungle]

if you're close to pity and have plenty of cubes you can consider it

[zenith wren]

Isn't it a good idea to build 1 light ship a day to do the daily mission that awards a wisdom cube?

[eager mulch]

consider:

[zenith wren]

8

[eager mulch]

8 isn’t a lot

[tame jungle]

save

[honest stirrup]

It's a good idea in the sense that you don't lose anything and get a free build

[soft raft]

Then save
dont even consider the thought

[zenith wren]

First event that I've dumped cubes into to get event ships.

Will have to rely on Bulins

[honest stirrup]

Most people relies on Bulins

[zenith wren]

wouldn't you eventually hit the pity by virtue of playing long enough?

[tame jungle]

yep

plus event pulls on banners without a UR count as well

[soft raft]

and you get at least 182 cubes per month so it takes just over 2 months to get enough cubes for event UR pity

[tame jungle]

at least 182? what changed to raise that from the 168?

[soft raft]

oh nvm yeah it'd be 168
but still that's roughly just over 2 months to get 400 cubes

[fast frigate]

What timedoes the event ends on 26th

[honest stirrup]

8:00 CET

The usual daily reset

[soft raft]

<t:1743058800:f>

[fast frigate]

Tyy

[tame jungle]

blaster how do you do that automatic time conversion thing?

[forest palm]

effectively 2 day and a half

[boreal wagon]

click copy text on his message and youll learn how

[dim grotto]

How many ur bullin we get for a month?

[forest palm]

1.5

[soft raft]

I googled Discord timestanp generator

[fast frigate]

Is royal oak worth to buy

[eager mulch]

she’s free bro

[soft raft]

At max you can earn 6k specialized per month which is 1 UR Bullin and a half

[honest stirrup]

That's how to get the format, but how do you get the number? A generator is really the best option?

[boreal wagon]

unless you wanna count the seconds since 1970 yourself yes

[tame jungle]

i do that daily so no problem for me

[eager mulch]

me too

[honest stirrup]

Oh it's that system.
Let's go code a useless python code whose whole purpose is to generate a discord time stamp

[proud sand]

If I just got Implacable, would it be better to use my next Ur bulin on her or save for two and fully limit break Musashi?

[eager mulch]

mlb ship > not mlb ship

[honest stirrup]

Full limit break before spreading

[soft raft]

Don't limit break a UR unless you can MLB her in one go

[proud sand]

Why?

[eager mulch]

bad

[tame jungle]

they unlock a whole bunch of extra power just from limit breaking, since you get more planes per gear slot (in implacable's case)

[fast frigate]

Anyone know what the next event gonna be

[honest stirrup]

#game-news

[eternal basalt]

That's perma-pity, ie. soft pity

[zenith wren]

I love how generous this game is. I've gotten multiple SRs from the daily pull

Back to back as well

[soft raft]

🆗

[boreal wagon]

soft-pity is the chance to get the rate up character increasing as you get closer to hard-pity
hard-pity is the chance becoming 100% at X pulls
sparking is gain a point for each pull, at X points trade points for character

AL does not technically have any form of pity only sparking

[grave ivy]

Another stupid question here, i got 2 implacable drops from event, should i use one to mlb the higher lvl one or just keep both?, since i guess she isnt coming back anytime soon

[honest stirrup]

I'm not sure in what world did you get that perma-pity meant soft-pity

Soft pity is increased rates after too many losses

[jaunty vault]

use dupe for limitbreak

[eternal basalt]

mlb

~~I still call it pity system ~~

[boreal wagon]

most people do but its technically wrong

[eager mulch]

spark

[eternal basalt]

hard-pity and sparking is the same in you example

[jaunty vault]

[eager mulch]

(they’re asleep)

[crisp geode]

Worth getting the 30 PR blueprints from event shop for Roon?

[soft raft]

You can use coins for roon

And it's a general rule of thumb not to use blanks on any season below the highest one it goes up to

[crisp geode]

Use those for PR7?

[worldly pewter]

if it says pr7 use on pr7 if it says pr6 use on pr6 if it says pr5 use on pr5

[jaunty vault]

it says pr5

[zinc hornet]

is prototype quad 152 plymouths best gun?

[jaunty vault]

yeah

its the best gun for most CLs

[zinc hornet]

okay ty. sextuple 40mm bofors best aa?

[jaunty vault]

not really

[zinc hornet]

not dropping ur bps on the twin 57/L60

[timid beacon]

on vanguard?

[zinc hornet]

twin 113?

[jaunty vault]

for AA guns, there's no single best for all

[zinc hornet]

I'm mostly thinking for W14

[timid beacon]

can be yeah. UR AA guns are going to be ideal too. high AA ships can use the donut, low AA ships might benefit from an accellerator

[zinc hornet]

is twin 113 the donut? would you use the UR on sandy?

[timid beacon]

because you mentioned Plymouth: this is a good resource to see what are ideal AA guns
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=plymouth

[stark quiver]

No

[zinc hornet]

that says sextuple 40mm bofors for aa which is why I asked because that isn't usually the recommendation here, I've found

[timid beacon]

Sandy prefers a UR AA gun, ideally: https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=san_diego

[worldly pewter]

actually how can we advise player about the AA guns now this is kinda complicated now

at least 3 76mm for the backline imo but the rest

[timid beacon]

high AA ships, low AA ships, and general I guess? use cases for donuts and accellerators

[zinc hornet]

i usually run twin 40mm bofors STAAG on BBs and twin 113 on vanguard

[worldly pewter]

yeah that is the standard loadout

[stark quiver]

Sandy would prefer a sextuple or twin 76

[zinc hornet]

I've got the sextuple on sandy but no one else

[stark quiver]

Blindly copying off ectl doesn’t work

[forest palm]

players aren't getting a 57, or 76 anytime soon they'll run into Quad Bofors, and get STAAGs from research which all in all is fine also also 113 from boxes happens too

[worldly pewter]

let's say players who have enough for 2 rainbows

[zinc hornet]

I'm 1 bp off getting a twin 57

[forest palm]

only time players absolutely have to consider Sextuples, 57s, and 76s is gonna be 13 + 15

[timid beacon]

I still maintain wanting to call the twin 76 the cAAt

[forest palm]

Don't care

[stark quiver]

Why are we still getting twin 57s

[zinc hornet]

my only useful cls are plymouth, helena and sandy. i run twin 113 on all DDs

[worldly pewter]

yeah it should be 15 only since personally i did 13 with quad bofors
so 1 of each right

[stark quiver]

Just get a twin 76
It’s just bigger it has hit and the AA difference is not too big

[forest palm]

I meant more so 13 HM

[zinc hornet]

sandy i run sextuple and plymouth i only just finished and haven't really used yet

[timid beacon]

I mean, yeah build towards the 76s, but folks probably have more stuff for the 57s in the meantime

unless they're new, at which point they're getting no UR AA guns anyways

[kind slate]

What’s the recommended launch tine difference between implacable and amagi/shinano

[worldly pewter]

sexy's biggest issue is the range
it is a severe issue too compared to the rainbows

but easier to +13

[sharp socket]

0.2s and below

[stark quiver]

0.02 apart
Or as close as possible

[kind slate]

Any specific order?

[zinc hornet]

okay so sextuple on sandy and twin 76 on plymouth?

[stark quiver]

Cv,implac,cv

[sharp socket]

implac in middle

[stark quiver]

Sure
It’s probably better on the backline

[worldly pewter]

where are u bringing them ?

[worn quest]

is there a way to improve my fleets for OS? assuming they all leveled up.

[zinc hornet]

W14

[worldly pewter]

roomba all

[timid beacon]

14 isn't near as air heavy

[zinc hornet]

twin113?

[stark quiver]

It’s a mess
And yes it can be greatly improved

[worldly pewter]

these fleets aren't arranged at all

[worn quest]

;-; how

[stark quiver]

Just run 134 in w14

[zinc hornet]

okay so against heavy air, sextuple sandy and twin 76 plymouth?

[worn quest]

idk what im doing

[stark quiver]

Why on ply

[zinc hornet]

that's why I'm asking, i don't know the answer

[stark quiver]

You can start a thread
Post your dock and some1 will help

[stark quiver]

Then yes prob
Assuming backline doesn’t have the prio

[worn quest]

OS fleet help