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tigercat should also work if you have it but not a flapjack
nelson or hood for mobbing?
either works
What tbs should I use?
saiun/ju87/ryusei/vit2
suzutsuki a huge upgrade over laffey retro or no?
does raffaelo need flag?
For the small pellets
aahh, then she is still okay with being off-flag?
for opsi mobbing who will do better between aquila and volga?
Does anyone knows what does the bar on CV does??
Should I use Bf109G over the flying flapjacks for Hornet Meta?
its the gage that says if they are hidden or not. there is a line where if the orange bar reaches they are discovered and they release less planes or something and they can be targeted
aquila
/detection
Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553
For more information, consult the wiki
so basically just AA reduction to enemies if my CVs stays hidden
It's effectively a huge damage buff
Like +30% damage when hidden against bosses with typical AA
so its that, i honestly thought they launched reduced planes because of how much my dmg dropped when they were discovered
is there any ways to not get them detected in big bosses like arbiter
based this off the tier list but is this a solid mob/boss fleet? * being the ones i've still gotta build but i'm going into ch10 after event
Have good AA
Then what about those suicide boats if i run triple CV fleet against arbiter
Have Ulrich on another fleet
Ah thanks
Yuudachi is not worth retrofitting
guam also has a similar style crossfleet as ulrich too 
shes my best other DD 😭 i also have suzutsuki but thassit
Depends on your gold bulins and retrofit status
and hard mode core data shop progress
do you have kazagumo?
And why do you need a DD in that slot
aren't those the damage dealers
just pushing campagin
ur saying its not necessary?
If you are gonna do a retrofit to rainbow, might as well do Sandy
i just thought 1 of each type makes a good fleet
not really tbh
Select based on role not hull type
i had it all wrong 😭 got some reading up to do in samheart
any recommendation on who should i go for next after fully maxing both Achorage and Fdg?
for shipyard research
Get a few dps CAs from PR1, and Plymouth from 5

Not really
Hormet has 1.28 million HP right?
I was under 10k away from killing her 😦
Well, found out Unzen had a +10 instead of +13 rainbow torp, let's see if that does it.
I'm getting so tired of LDPlayer randomly freezing for a couple of seconds, let's see if Mumu is any better.
Are MLB Scylla and Perseus better than Helena Retro and Unicorn Retro for mob? Im nearly about to reach chapter 8 now
ectl seems to have them in same tier
They do different things
unicorn is direct upgrade to perseus
scylla is a dps with small buffs, helena is pure buffer so different roles
Scylla is AOE dps CL with good AA
Unicorn is the best healer in the game
Persues has double preload airstrike
Helena is the best damage amp in the game
Ohh I see, thanks
does independence supporting wing skill works on keasarge?
It shouldn't , keary is a BBV
sad now
is there a list of destroyers that can equip CL guns?
not sure, but there isn't many that want to equip CL gun
there's like otto and felix, and a few others i can't remember
i have just been killing with the same fleet as taihou meta
is fairey firefly worth getting? would i ever use it
maybe, it's event limited so better safe than sorry
E2 firefly stronk has it even seen some use? I see slightly more damage but slower rld than the suisei kai
me? just soy cat and amagi
think people have used it like once or twice in the past
might as well get it then, ty
question about cross fleet barrage. does the equipment on the ship with the cross fleet skill affect damage? is it affected by cat? and is it the cat asssigned to the ship or the mob fleet
How much difference did lack of ammo make?
50% of your damage, so can be quite a lot
not affected by cats on the crossfleet ship's fleet
at least, i think
i see so the equipment affects it probably just the stat increase
wait so if your flagship is a CV and you have an ARA vanguard or something, the crossfleet gets the dmg boost? 
yes
I cant go wrong with buying white shells right? I have 2 right now
you can go buy it yea
is white shell good with nelsons flag generally speaking?
yes and you can also use the 6CRH shell
is that the black shell?
its the yellow, which u shouldnt buy
royal navy white shell
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/6CRH_Armor_Piercing_Shell
i have 2 black shell and 2 white shell alongside a nelson flag right now
1 more white shell is enough
isnt this a downgrade from the black and white shell combo?
slightly less fp, slightly more hit, 5% more crit dmg
but its just worse outside of rn while white shell stays the same so not worth buying at all
just put white shells on ur royal ships
it's low prio for core data but something to consider after youre done with the important purchases (but not really since there arent really many relevant hms bbs)
Should I change the AA sheet I have to use the new UR AA gun
yes
what else should i buy from core data shop now, i have indep
i mean what else are you going to buy, a 7th pair of shells? 4th snorkel?
oxytorps 
nvm found the image
Which one shud get this aa gun, Raff has 1 and Nelson has a better one, So 
Does someone have the list for up coming rerun URS?
cvl
Uni or Indep?
either one
Can anyone like make it simpler or smth
Or what’s the next UR after Implac
new ur in may (not revealed), next rerun is bis zwei sometime after the new one
[Vanguard] -> [Musashi] -> [Yorktown II] -> [Implacable] -> [Bismark Zwei] -> [Unzen] -> [Guam & Laffey II] -> [Soyuz] -> [Alsace & Mogador] -> [Amagi (CV)] -> [Fritz Rumey & Z52] -> [Raffaello]
rare UR only Blaster
-> UR Rudder
Bismarck Zwei
skipping laffey2 would mean forever taking L in pvp
meaningless
Also, according to that, it looks like CN anni will probably be a double UR event, since we've been getting one every other UR
i cheese my way in pvp so dw
Just be active and you'll end up with more than enough cubes
But you REALLY want at least Laffey 2. And besides, she's free.
laffii is a shop UR
and so far every shop UR has been a dd
UR ddg for cn anni incoming
No, it's gonna be USS Midway as the gacha UR, and Johnson as the DD. Trust.
shes a shop UR?? tf
imma buy her instead of pulling
laffey 2 was not in construction. only way to get her is the shop
where's Unzen
and tbh i would also get guam
after biszwei
I MISSED IT

Fixed
i only have two la-9, one +13 and one +10. for bf109 only one +13, the rest is +10. is it possible to one shot hornet meta 15?

maybe, on a good day with good crit
helena and a prayer
when was fu shun retro item given?
last LNY
ah missed it sadge ty
no helena, conceal kept, kill ✅ https://streamable.com/7lc759
no helena, conceal reveal, kill ❎ https://streamable.com/rk43up
i hate this meta
4 frog guns mori 2 rich
We've never rerun a shop UR though, so it's unknown how they will handle them. You don't get 2 weeks of points after all...
2/4 so far
a little reveal early on and basically can't 1shot anymore
man i sat on rumey for a bit and now i regret it
2027 for you
not sure if auto possible, boss has layer and the stupid triangle thing
is there no lowcost solution if i dont wanna spend 10 thousand years in b3 
im settling with b2 this time
thats 20 thousand years 
just close your eyes and it's 19k years
Need 3 SR bulin
Cleared medal shop
Any ideas?
theres also 1 in 3* rewards in event
should I 3 star missions in the event or just rush through them?
guys everytime i finish a run in d3 the story cutscene plays out, it never happened before, how do i stop it?
only play a couple times, like 3-4. it will be over, just skip
some map 3* give rewards, check your mission tab
okay 
also does the high logistic plan doubles the point gains in the event?
Yes but it also doubles the oil consumed
thats why im asking 
i just dont think plates should ever be the reason for choosing between campaign vs event
Who should I mlb after implac (implac was lb'd using copies)
nano
not with bulins 
is it worth pulling for implacable?
just uniddg D3
Idk man York 2 seems like a better option
honestly either or, both are missing their best pair ups
imo york2 is the most skippable UR cv
introducing one of my friends to the game, is there a good guide that i could point her to to get her started that isnt too long/complex?
her top functionality is basically tied to kear at this point and vice versa, I just went for soyuz nakhimov for rockets
it's a bit long but https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips is basically best we have now
icic, i’ll point her to that one, hopefully its not too long for her, thank you 
are there maps that dont have all 4?
what does autosearch tell you
once you collect the loot box, the remaining matrices disappear
nothing left
Oh i see, no wonder
how do I get more oil, I already tried oil missions and comissions but just playing a few story chapters alone burns thr it
Im at 5-4, skk lvl 38, team cost 58
You can't really "get" more oil
Oil is primarily a matter of management in this game
Early on you will run out of oil very easily and that's natural
There will come a point (not too long from now) where you won't run out of oil if unless you play super actively
AL isn't a gacha game
It's a resource management game
What time zone is AL?
UTC -7
What's that like 2:45am rn?
Yes, it would be
Great thanks
Who are best vs hornet meta
i have musashi/alsace/biszwei as backline rn
Are there better options
Currently we're still testing regarding the best vanguard
But the supposed best backline for her is Soyuz Nakhimov Rumey
Cv vs cv?
I thought cvs would be disadvantaged vs a bb against a cv because anti air reduction
And this particular boss has high evasion rate, giving the lower hit BBs an even larger disadvantage
BBs would only be better if the AA was unusually high - it isn't
/sirenstats
350 lies in the lower end
Anyway what are best vanguard to help cvs besides sirius and kazagumo
Z52 is the new one
Eldridge retro is a solid choice if you're only running slowers and not freezers
is it worth getting the fairey firefly plane from the event?
depending on the boss Laffey II and Guam are also legit vanguard supports for CV fleet
sometimes used for timing adjustment, always grab limited gear from shop
also I need to complete sorties with iron blood vanguard for roon halp
anything you have that's KMS in vanguard slot
I only have prinz eugen z1 and z25 but I could also buy from the guild shop
nothing wrong with those 3 if it's just pr grind
For nakhimov is ryuusei or anti medium rocket better for hornet meta
rocket
take 3 ships that fit xp req, put in dorm for morale bonus, repeat stages with oil cap
Im only at ch 6
eugen has bad tech
if u can swap with anyone else it would be ideal
but- but my roon...
is C5 the best to farm without autosearch failing in the middle?
I guess I'll have to switch to saint louis
When the event says it ends on 26th does that mean once it hits 26th the event ends or once it hits 27th?
c3 should be slightly better but also takes more time, if you dont have a lot of time its fine to burn boxes in c5
event ends with start of day change/maint on Thursday server time
i see, ty!
So once it hits 00:00 and it's Thursday server time that's when the event ends?
why shouldn't I go for the perma banner URs? are they bad?
besides Shinano mostly oudated, but more because you won't have the in a usable state for the resources you're dumping
does oathing a μ ship unlock the oath skin ?
if base ship has an oath skin yes
even if I dont got the base ship right?
perm URs are not bad ships per se, they're just bad investment if you still need to be saving for new ships
Hi hi would recommend reaching at least ch9 or better 11 before doing pr exp
yes, but you won't be able to view the skin and skin lines in archive
that you can only do if you oath the og ship regardless of variant type
did they implements skip battle or multiple clear rewards in one battle stuff in this game?
they have HELP which doubles rewards for a clear in exchange for doubled oil costs
only skipping is for daily raids
otherwise it's just autoruns
for event maps you still need to sit there while the game plays its self?
Do I have enough units for a second team? I want one for the event
if you're on a phone the game needs to be on screen to keep going, it doesn't need to be the only thing on screen if you have a device that supports multiwindows
a lot of people just afk and leave it to run, tapping repeats in like 5-15 minutes
much handier if you have it on an emulator
thanks man
what is the vanguard x-fleet hierarchy these days 
whichever fits in the fleet
i use guam unzen shimikaze
we don't have that many URs to start with and not that many have crossfleet
the only one kind of ditched nowadays is Kronshtadt because of relative CB/tank performance but she actually has one of the better crossfleets 
in opsi i use every1
some maps allow for all hulls that is why I was wondering 
i got a stupid question...when i try to auto fill the expedition while i got a 100+ ship but it say no suitable shipgirl found. can anyone tell me to fix it? 
mby they are in a hard mode map
they are in a fleet somewhere
oh , so hard mode count? okay thank you so much 
im not sure tbh, i forgot
but thats my best bet considering they are not in excercise opsi or normal fleets according to the card
you can fit everyone, it's just whether you also use the ships in a complete comp or just have them ditched in fleet 4 for cross
it's main fleet that's a problem to fit 
chat i got 2 implacable should i limitbreak her?
if you mean using the second one for LB yes
if you mean LBing the second one no
is the gold plane in event worth getting
it's event limited, just grab it
better to have and not need than need and not have, you never know when it might fit a niche
i got 2 lvl one LOL
rn im focusing leveling on one of it
then yes use the dupe for LB
give me a fleet for this pls? 
buncha rainbows will work
Backline(main) pretty much all rainbow ship with anti-medium equipment because boss medium but vanguard... It's somehow complicated,luckbase and skillbase dodging those thousand particles that each deal 1k+ damage
btw should i get the new plane gear in the rerun event is it good?
Limited...its pretty niche... Maybe just get it
boss is medium not heavy
Wait wut???
always get limited gear
any idea what will be the next ship to be added to perma pool, and by when ? based on the 9-10 month pattern
hmmm ill put it on implacable ig
i mean ur
vanguard is next for archive from URs
How do I get this
vanny event
Can I still get it in the War Archive?
wonder if this will be a 3 of item 
considering vanny has not been archived yet no
FUCK
once vanny gets archived it also almost certainly will go to limited core data at 2 or 3 limit or with massive amount of copium it might go to gear lab or like with shima torps they just forget about it
What stage do I farm for the event
ok thanks
Usually the last one I think
they could shove it into core data
i literally said that
i didn't
no you said limited core data
i didn't either
taz what did you say
regular core data
considering their track record with event gear has been limited, i doubt theyll give us unlimited
but fair enough i suppose
it's kind of hard to have a track record with UR event exclusive aux gear, you have the Oxy Torp in core data, but then the Z Flag in limited, so 
Should I do all of the event stages for 3x
sure
On easy too ?
Problem is morale though, so do wait some intervals
Use low oil fleets for the bonus why use your farm fleet
Like an hour per each? Put your girls in the dorms and use less oil
Moral shouldn't pose a problem since you can't use x2 on x3 coins
Why ??? Me I'm right
If I'm farming for pr ships don't i want a full fleet tho ?
Ooohhh ok I'm wrong
the 3x bonus is only once per day so just do a low oilcost fleet for those 1 runs and swap back to farming cdc on d3
It's ok I also used to be very scared of ships moral, but they can really go 36 battles in a row without flinching
Isn't there an oil cap?
only on d3 iirc
What's usually a good BB auxiliary when I don't have the UR fire control table?
Other than the shells which I have
HSFCR
Gold radar
Aka gold fire control
I got every ship but Scylla is this the only time I can get her
Nvm just got her lol

is farming Fallen Wings better than PR research? Or should I do the former?
add 2 rainbow bbs preferably from top5
add ur 3rd rainbow dmg dealer
then add eldr and laffey to vang and ull have to manual but laffey and eldr make it very bearable
i dont understand
You will be doing Research anyways, just use the ones you get from it. Then you can spend your oil on other things.
basically use ur rainbow girls
that was meant for you
i dont understand what you're asking here
if you meant farming fallen wings to farm fcr prints then don't
this one
just stick to research
“Should I farm WA for gear?” The answer is no.
Waste of oil


The Ryuusei is a pain to get in Research
it isn't fixed, it's random
You can make them in Gear Lab if needed.
the drop rate on WA is worse
Gear BP drop on map is horrendous
louis is better than these 2? they're in same tier
or she's for mobbing and they are for bosses
They do completely different things
Tallin and Heinrich are tanks
Saint Louis is a DPS
also louis will take longer to max
u need blueprints for her instead of bulins/enhance fodder
Personally, I would recommend raising Heinrich over tallinn
Or use neither really
u use louise with another tank in 1 fleet?
yeah she is very good especially with her augment
but by the time u will have her in a usable state u probably will have someone else u can use anyway
u mean from building and who for example?
well it would be easier to post your dock
are u trying to make a second fleet? or change up existing fleets?
tallinn useful longterm for np tech 
just thinking about other priorities rather than leveling 1 fleet
mb start grinding with kms vanguard for roon and tech points
Why isn't the Portland retro 
i can do her now or build louis
lemme guess louis waifu
you have to retro portland for the newcomer missions
Where do u find the bit where it shows u what ships ur missing
main menu>memento>archives>sort unobtained unacquired 
Ty
thanks mori!
thanks mori
Port more important
u need to do 8 nodes for portland not fully retrofit
and i'm gonna farm event for a while, her retrofit won't do much
Is there any specific things NOT to bring to SP stage this event? Or is any 120+ fleet with decent gear fine?
For bos can 1:1, uni+good tank. Boss - best fleet what you have
usually SP is low costed by older players
the requirements aren't high
most are 1:1 onefleetable but my zuihou and an shan failed
but safe 1:1 twofleet
Would Musashi, Kear, FdG or Warspite count as strong?
musashi works
would
how much oil is this btw?
Musi
176 i think
I use musashi so can confirm she's more than enough
yeah i can go take some off mine then
she is very cheap and better tank than saint louis (without her augment)
and early on for vanguard u mainly want them to tank
portland is a great ship to use early on
definitely finish her retrofit
like I said before saint louis will take a long time to dev30 and before she is dev30 u shouldnt use her
if u are at chapter 9 or D maps in event then u can raise a second fleet
what is in your medal shop? the SR hulls I mean
save oil and be prince oil
I think SP no oil cap. Never mention this
i'm already nearly capped
I don't have Chang Chung ready (missing gear) what other VG works for boss?
SP has no cap but yes you can low cost with uni+goodDD and UR BB+good vanguard
Z52
any ddg or yuudachi since they are cheap
tai yuan
I can only make her just barely meet level reqs, all my UR DDs are not quite there yet
DDG is cheapest option, but Yuudachi is only like 7 oil higher across a run, if you use a UR DD then another 7
Leander
What am I supposed to do now, my fleet struggled in C1 and got absolutely ass-wiped in C2
Apparently me in C1 earlier
repeat C1 until you don't struggle at it
Would it be heresy to use Drake or a CB? The only UR VGs I have at 125 with good gear
its just that they cost more oil
it'll cost more oil up to you
you don't need a UR vanguard or a 125
So basically I... do the same thing like how I usually do to Gabriel in Ultrakill?...
even laffey would probably work tbh
Oh I thought it was about whether they could deal enough dmg, not oil
this SP is a lot easier than past few ones
Normal laffey?
map will get easier from lower threat level and you'll get stronger from leveling, until you get strong enough to do a higher stage
granted lv120, and decent gear 
Heresy mentioned
/// APOSTATE OF PERFECT HATRED ///
MACHINE. I WILL CUT YOU DO-
i understand that pr ships useless w/o dev30
but faster i build her faster i can start enhancing
you're going to need to repeat the stages a lot anyway for points, a few more of C1 to level isn't really much
if cost is a concern do a bit of A/B with bonus
I think would rather 1-1 B3 tbh if C1 is all they can do
Time to tune in Death of God's Will
definitely do that
I am not saying u shouldnt finish saint louis
I just mean finish portland since u want sth to use in the mean time
are you in D maps now? in event?
so that we can start working on a second fleet? 
She's one of the few ships you'll barely use because at the time that she's useable there's already a ton of better options for your account unless ofc waifu and you'll use her because it's her
level advantage wise he's probably there for B3 but not sure if the gear works out for 1:1, probably no cross either
B3 is also seriously tough for 1:1 lol
is it?
the boss is kinda on steroid
I cleared C1
oh yeah now i remember
boss spawns a lot of shit if you don't kill fast enough, solo main fleet can die for low comps
I would know I lost ranger twice today
@timid forum can u get san diego from the rookie missions? or have u used them already? if not can u get her from the medal shop? if u are little E your other shop should be CL I think
yeah can farm d2, not enough level for d3
i'll get hood from newbie mission soon
it has anime final form, and then if dont kill fast enough it start summoning like armada and run you over in number
ranger 2mahan doesn't even kill reliably before safe, and that's with stacked gear + cross
didn't use it yet
i got enterprise from medal shop
I just threw subs at it
I experienced that. Shit was like trying to handle 300 filths as once in Ultrakill.
no idea wtf that is but it's irrelevant
Was just trying to refer to Ultrakill 
but anyway I probably should put unicorn and an shan in dorm 
Just cleared 5 battles with Uni - AnShan, is it normal for Uni to be half hp already?
Are they good?
sry had to go
well then get hood from rookie that is fine
we can get sandy later
your second fleet can be hood, saratoga ark royal, cleveland, z23 and maybe z1
can replace z1 with heinrich if u get enough gold bulins for both hood and heinrich
obviously dont raise all these together since they will be low level
get D3 map to safe with your main fleet then level 1-2 of them in D3 map when it is safe
Scylla extremely
The rest no
keep princeton for rld tech 
rld tech though 
sandy > hood
Ohhh okay, where can I slot her tho I can only make two fleets as of now
Firstly
You're too early to be building 2 fleets
Too low level, not enough bulins, not enough gear
Ohhhh
@timid forum listen to neko and get san diego from rookie missions
so your second fleet is (BB) saratoga, ark royal, san diego z23 cleveland
gold bulins for san diego (get her MLB for now - can delay retrofit)
so we just need to find BB
let me have a look
I would rather compress the ships you do have into 1 fleet
So what fleet comp can I make :O?
So probably belorossiya, Unicorn, Enterprise
Tallin, Z23, Helena
i'l get independence in a week or two but it's too long i guess
You won't have the resources for Scylla, but she will be used for fleet 2 in the future
Ohhhh
You won't be using any of the other ships probably
Perseus is extremely good but you have unicorn there so
have enough bulins for 3-4 sr
Ohhh, I can't retrofit uni as of now so I was using perseus for the fleet n vanguard heal cos on some other nodes the fleet kept on getting low hp
The main reason I say to stop with Perseus is because she also uses gold bulins
Where you are at in the game,
You should be aiming to over level with a single fleet to clear content
Ohhh :O
I still don't have Trieste, is heavy contruction the only place I cna pull her or are there any store when I can exchange her?
Also which ones should I retire and which ones should I keep? I'm slowly running out of space in my dock
like I said priority for now is getting to D3 with main fleet and getting the map to safe (repeat clear makes map easier)
then raise the ships I mentioned
for second fleet BB I would just use pennsylvania tbh
next month u might get a good BB from medal shop
or when u are done with nelson and saratoga retrofit we can get maryland or WV and retrofit them as well
also have warspite, got lost between bulins
but she's not that good i guess
2nd bb is royal oak when u get her from shop
oh yeah that works 
thanks, i'll work on it
whens the next UR?
The next UR is right now!
whens the next one after this one?
next new UR should be in second half of May (for CN anniversary)
zwei rerun could be next month but who knows
so basically like 2ish months to save cubes
what
i should probs stop cubing then
Normal laffey was not enough 
do i still build louis then? or start roon and save retrofit materials for her?
-# Chat, I might be cooked, I still haven't gotten implacable after 150 pulls, I used all my cubes and the tickets
then you probably should just run someone tankier, take the minor oil loss
Walahahi, I'm cooked
Is this the part where I say I hadn't cleared it yet, and this was my first attempt?
just curious, what gear is your laffey running
is uni the one dying?
Wait uni? I ran her in the boss fleet, an shan in mob with uni

It appears I have misunderstood 
imo finish saint louis and then try and unlock anchorage/FdG/agir
if not enough pts for them then u can do roon in the mean time
or any pr2/pr3 ship
who else in your boss
Boss is now Musashi plus Drake
ye that works
Okay gonna clear it this time then 
i guess laffey was the one dying 
Somehow the SP boss was too much to handle for level 120 laffey-kai
what's the consensus on best strat for hornet meta? BB or CV or mix?
mix seems good
the only mix is soyuz, and she is essentially a buffer lmao
sorry where would I find this?
leipzig is worse than z23 with cleveland and heinrich?
.
hello im new
no you're Jason
Which is the best wolfpack comp?
Can I still use haku at this dev level or is she really bad when she’s not dev 30
if u have no better carriers she can be workable from d25
but ideally d30
Alright
fs5 haku still doesn’t get a spot in amagi/nano/implac 
You could take Amagi/Nano/Haku, and use Eldridge for slows
I thought 47 was better than 37
nope
not a big difference, but 37 is better
Should i make Hood's custom gear first or Z23's first?
I am, still running the begineer fleer
you can skip z23's augment
Typically main fleet is going to take priority for upgrades, as they do a much higher % of your damage
The exception is for things that will help keep your vanguard alive.
is kronshadt good
Well, when you only have one fleet you're always running the main fleet 
Main fleet as in back row
Ah ic
good to have, but one of the last to pick from perma pool
uvh smh
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Large cruise, battleship, destroyer,light cruiser, lightcarrier(escort)
is cleveland plays role of tank in vanguard? and i got scylla, who should she replace?
cleveland is sqishy, she cant tank
Does hornet meta requires cv tech to be maxed?
ohh
Require? No. Really good idea? Maybe.
cleve isnt a tank
scylla rotates in mob when u lvled one vanguard to 120 like helena
Best lineup for meta fight?
.
forgot you can copy link lmao
sandy with augment can tank second fleet
if u have enough bulins for scylla san diego and royal oak then level scylla instead of cleveland
I want z23 for KMS tech 
is she good?
yeah, i understand, why not heinrich then, too much bulins to waste?
gold bulins should go into ships u plan to use for a long time
or that u need urgently
and why leipzig is worse, she buffs cruisers
Investing in heirinch is bad?
gold bulins are best used on long term viable ships like enty and such
no
it is all relative
not every advice is universal to every player
she is a decent ship and if u have no better options then u can use her
Scylla is a AA specialist like Sandy right?
Ok
How to even do rld tech for carriers. Where to start. Most ships I see are worthless and pain in the a** to raise to 120
take everything with a grain of salt, at the end of the day playing suboptimal or not is still your choice I personally did build heinrich cuz waif but this is gph so advice takes top prio
I thought Scylla used for her barrage
thats all of cv tech
thats where the damage comes from yes? but she is still a AA carry
pretty much most of tech farming is from pita ships
Pita?
How much of cv rld is needed at least for getting a good score in meta boss fights or the end game fights
was 12-4 always have been 951 oil
as many as there is i guess XD
Maxed is the best result
I am not talking about one shotting them
1mil dmg should be enough
RLD doesn't matter as much as synching your ships
you can have 0 and still do good damage
Ok
having adjustable rld is convenient of course, as it allows you to micro adjust your timing
Who's next
FdG
some fight require high rld, some doesn't, so it's pretty different from case to case
if we take ohko out of the picture then rld doesn't matter as long as you 2hko even 3hko is good
3hko?
Just kill your own and assist 3 times every day, and you could do hardly any damage and be fine
3 hit KO
I deal only 300k to 400k damage. I could use some improvements
What's your fleet?
It's fritz Musashi raffaello, prince heirinch,helena,kuyubushev
Do you have Plymouth?
Atm
Nope don't have the tech points for her
Should I post my dock for any room for improvement?
yea that would be better

In a thread yee
rigged gameplay moment, and thats a amagi buffed haku
Fleet for hornet meta
i dont think this wont survive 15-1 (3 Starred 14-4 with this in manual)
persy uni in one fleet 
Perseus definitely a bad idea for W15
Why is Z23 off tank when she's more squishy than Z52
When is this specific skin of hers coming back?
kinda lack aa, and z52 not 125.
See if there's a event listed on that page
Otherwise most likely black friday
z52 alone aint gonna carry even though she is that good XD
idk what am i doing back then i lack DDs
Even at 120 she's still way tanker than Z23
Kazagumo was not 120 back then
no Aquila
oh im not talking about z23, was gonna suggest getting rid of both heinrich and z23 anyways cause lack of aa lol
can work if you use Z1 and manual
and perseus too XD
It was too late, i finished 14-4 and Z1 popped up in build
manual fleet building differs from auto fleet building right?
/w15 either way give this a read
This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15
Guys how do you manage to limit break efficent? The UI is not really making it easy to enhance, i know i can filter by Limit Break Available, but i would rather do my limit breaks first which i have multiple copies off instead of having all in the list available because i have the protoypes.
ive been looking for people that makes manual fleets
well everything is auto bruh
i LB ships i want to use, then choose quick select for LB mats
i sort by levels
i mean not THAT different though, just the requirement of ship like in levels or strength would be lower than auto thats it
thats how i sort, but then as example dido i have a copy + protoype and then i check for hermione because she is in the list aswell, and she can only use the protoype. is there no other way to limit break?
I figured some ships would be more viable on manual too than auto but yea not that I play manual to know
Bulins or copies, that's it
Thats not what i mean, i am talking about the UI
what about it?
no other way
Take a screenshot of ships you have copies of and then search for them I guess?
ty
you can sort by rarity and take note which ship has duplicate
tbh if you see like a spare lb0 just search that up and see if dupes or not
then re-sort via limit break again, extra step 
that's how I check if I lb with dupe or retire
idk if that 20% more damage to Battleships is real if they are on manual
You can set up retire to keep only the ships you need copies of, so if retire keeps them it means that ship isn't at MLB
retire doesn't check for sr tho but yea checking that setting would help
I have that already ^^ currently have 626 dock slots and its annoying to retire that much
a few clicks of quick retire should be fairly fast no?
It's one click, there's no limit anymore
Is this upcoming American event normal format or SP?
even better then 
I don't think we know yet. I'm thinking it may be a raid though, this is about the time we got one last year right?
It was Ansongate last March which was a mix SP/Raid like Frostfall was
Oh right
when is Black Friday? Also Kashino's skin is from Unzen's event
November, And Unzen event was Sept 2023
you can only filter by "high enough lvl that she can LB once", not based on mats available
Because I might hold on in buying her other skins if a rerun of Unzen's event is coming close
Could happen before Black Friday, who knows 
ok, just from a quick skim I think a rerun of Unzen's event is gonna come out in May at best?
yeah good enough
lolno
no
damn
at best bismark is
also when do we get free promise rings
We have 3 events that need to rerun before hers, how does that get it out in May?
damn, maybe at june

Don't count on it before October
what about promise rings because I'm gonna get ready
don't forget that we have new events and they're just reruns

yeah I can see that,
Oh hey, one of the events I need is coming up. I somehow missed Suffren in the Clemenceau event.
Also Blaster, your event sheet is missing Reflections of the Oasis
Unless you aren't adding raids
That's a raid so no
I don't remember, are they adding raid ships to alternate spots, like medal or merit, or are they going to perma pool?
straight to perma
Forgot you can turn off ping too, apparently 
Who should I mlb next? (Implac was limit broken using copies)

After imp?
also the amount of cubes spent 
prob rafaello> yorktown> shinano
Also, no need to buy rainbow bulins ASAP, the amount available in the shop is infinite
Just buy them as you need them
dont lb them unless u can mlb also
Finish Implacable > Shinano > Yk2 > Raffaello
raffy being the lowest prio is wild
are the suggested early retrofits like portland, unicorn etc. higher priority than using those blueprints for PR ships?
yes
Kinda wonder if I should seperately mark "Frostfall format" events 
tried Bold underline earlier but that fucks things up if I need to do more than 1 side note lol
because the PR ships wont be usable for a few weeks even after unlocking
most likely because she isn't needed much until late campaign stages 
musasi can do until then
raffy is a direct improvement over fdg, not to mention it lets him run triple UR BB
for bossing it kinda goes the same way towards shinano where he can use triple ur cv
impla is absolutely first
i would also recommend rafa after impla
where is your triple UR CV?
Implacable shinano fritz and yorktown dont make good CV fleets
impla nano rumey is a very weird 3x cv
it means you have to run another IJN beyond just kaza
haku is permanently available in pr4
it is an option
shinano also can be obtained slowly using perm
yorktown2 enterprise implacable forms one of the best comps CV comps
Azuma moment
tho that also means having to coin a DR 
better to coin a haku at that point lol
yeah lol
there is no reason not to run triple UR BB, it will outperform everything, which is why those prios are very very weird
Why i cant quick retire?
Hi guys, i jusy got back after 5 yrs, i have 60 pulls, theres lots of good ships on special? And implacable looks cool too. Which should i prio my pulls on getting an UR ship? Need guidance thanks
So I mlb yk2 after?
these are why
rafaello> yorktown> shinano
dont ever roll perma banner aside from light outside UR events
roll event UR
Always do event/rerun banner if there is one, especially if it's a UR
otherwise 1 light build per day
regular hevy and special pools arent worth it when event pools take from either of them for their pool
there is a mission for doing 1 build a day which gives you 1 cube
its essentialy a free pull cause of daily pull mission
this adds up to the permanent UR spark
Oh i just got her on 2nd pull, is that normal?
nope
I just got back after 5 yrs and did a pull..
Lucky
What do i do w her now
Build her I guess?
Or w my extra pulls? Do i keep pulling her?
you probably do not have any rainbow bulins
so just keep her benched
stop pulling
Is it good value to get multi copies
not really
esp with that low of a cube count you have
Only pull with tickets from now until the end of the event
Alright, what should I be saving my pulls then?
just save
mainly for future new URs and UR Reruns
possibly regular SR events too if you want to pull waifu and/or they happen to have a few worthwhile ships
do I buy the plane in the event store
Thanks
better to buy event gear and not need it later than the other way around, even if it's extremely unlikely you'll ever use it
Uh, do I get Implacable here too from playing this mission as a guarantee or js a chance?
i had implac copies
Implacable is only obtained from build
thats fine then
No
that's just the typical event overview bulletin
I wouldnt otherwise
somepeople will lb even if can 1 time
By monday i will have 4 UR bullins, the choice is Implacable yes?
Oh it says head to the Build Construction, mb for comprehension, was kinda expecting freebies everywhere lmao
Where do UR Bulins come from? I have zero, but I'm still new to the game.
After Imp I'd go for Fritz. That should be a pretty good combo for the current meta
Implac wanted double torpedo bombers, right?
It depends on what you're doing
Looks like Z52 will wait until next year lol
How do I level up my ships if I don't exp packets
Most from the Spec Core shop. Also UR events and lvl 100 cruise pass.
Any suggestions? Which should be my main team/ships for me to build and prio
Dorm, sorties or comms.
Id suggest you to open a thread and post your dock there
Got it, thanks
Lol. I have a similar question. I will do the same.
If you get 15K points in total on this new event you will get UR bullin from the milestones
Where do I open, did I do mine right js now?
You did
Starter Fleet Substitution Question
About the gear lab... where do I obtain those materials from?
Gearlab supplies primarily come from opsi.
You can eventually get some from the Enterprise daily as well
What's that?
Daily raid?
I see thanks
The highest level of the Enterprise daily raid gives gear lab mats
Alrightt
Just to make sure before I start her research, Plymouth is not coinable rn, only the pr ships are?
ply and brest
Tragic, guess ill research another ship for now
If I run a 2CV 1BB fleet should I always put the BB as flagship?
Unicorn NJ Yorky2 to be exact
The battleship, if your flag, is able to kill suicide boats in every lane, so that's where she should be. If she's on one side she'll miss the boats on the other.
Right, thanks
I wouldnt rely on daily raid for gear lab
u would have to wait months for 1 piece of gear
and some gear designs dont drop from there
if u want gear lab stuff do opsi
On it
o7
What happens when you lose a mission? Like do your ships get mad or damaged? Or you just forfiet all rewards and the oil you spent?
They get mad; you lose 10 morale every time a ship sinks
If I’m on 5-1, what stage is a good gold farm?
Technically they don't get mad if you lose the mission from it timing out rather than sinking.
@eternal moth just for the ship that sunk?
there isnt one
there's no gold farm till w12
or all the ships on the mission?
Rip it’s the only thing I’m running out of rn
pretty sure you only lose oil for the number of ships sortied, and not the full amount 
Try to push ahead in the campaign as fast as you can, good gold farming starts at 9-1
@marble wind I got fed up with the gold flow at that stage of the game and finally coughed up some cash

Only the ships that sink. If you're fighting with ships at 0 morale, you start losing affection.
Thank you. There are no free upgrades for the dorms or anything right? Eventually, some day I will have to spend gems?
you have to spend gems to get the 2nd floor and additional dorm slots
reccomended is 3 dorm slots total and 2nd floor, esp if you grind alot
after that it's all in on dock space and nothing else
Oh crap, I didn't even realize that
the dorm slots didn't go toward the floor... its the expansion of the room thingy right?
dorm slots and 1st floor expansion are sepreate things
expansion of the room using decor tokens
then once max expand, second floor is available
the dorm slots are a separate matter
How many expansion licenses do I need? I think I’m about to buy the 3rd one for 1k
i believe it is 3
And then in the 2nd floor do I need to spend gems to unlock the slots
you need 500 gems to unlock floor 2
you get the exact number of slots you have on floor 1
the 2nd floor always mirrors 1st, even if you buy slots after expanding it'll continue to mirror it
Ah ok ty
buying a slot then expanding to 2nd floor will have the same effect as reversing the order, so don't worry about doing it wrong
The wrong way is to expand to 6 first floor slots as f2p
what about 5?
or 4?
4 isnt the worse
I had 4 as a f2p
5th and 6th cost like 1k and 1.2k apiece
had... now 6?
that's almost 2 l2d skins
5
not as bad an investment as 3rd and 4th skill slots admittedly
What's your highest DMG in Hornet META Showdown?
Might be an issue on my lineup.
my first ur dd shop waited 8 months
u can do it trust
6 slots or bust
What's your gear for Rumey and Nakhimov?
Fritz: La-9, La-9, 76mm Mk37, 2 steam catapults
Nahkimov: La-9, Bf-109G, Ju-87d, 2 steam catapults
Only 13/50 for my third LA-9 😦
How much do I need to craft this one?
50
50
And how do I craft it?
by getting 50
on depot?
depot
yes
then going to depot > craft yeah
Depot > Craft
Thankss
What's the best way to get prototype cores?
just convert every data cards I have?
catching up with research
o7
what's your sync timing for this?
41 rld?
Using research catch-up not to catch-up
analyze drake cheshire and azuma prints after they are dev30
yes
as much CV RLD as possible, BB just set to 0 
why not vit2? you want nakh>soyuz? 
there's basically no way for Nakhimov to launch before Soyuz
Saiun or breguet would do it
not with La-9s
??
Imagine having 4 la9s
is there any difference if soyuz>nak
It's ever so slightly worse
why
is the event flight worth buying
always worth buying limited gear
better to buy event gear and not need it later than the other way around, even if it's extremely unlikely you'll ever use it
wait all event gears are limited?
ALWAYS get limited Gear despite its rarity and useability
did you guys test if 3frog+2roomba is viable? or 4 frog 1 roomba, to close down gap for more consistent conceal
hmm ok
they are limited till they are not ( 🔮 )
is the la-9 better than the Bf 109G vs medium?
by a big margin

well 3 roomba + 2 frog is "viable" because i dont have more frogs
they take a while after archive to be added to shop or lab eventually, but why wait that long, it's not even expensive to buy in event shop
well I don't have 4 +13 76mms but maintaining conceal consistently is a bit of a bitch
ye i had fast planes escaping at bottom both yesterday and today, fritz revealed from start to finish ~_~
I have 2 76s one at +11 the other +10, but my 3 other AA guns are +13 57s and it works out 
yeah fair enough
still killed tho so no need to worry about it 
2/5 today
I have zero +13 76s
Full +10 AA one shots the planes anyways
Just maximize range and reload speed while keeping 15 hit on the important damage dealers
Am i misunderstanding or do i have to manually go to each fleet to beat em , 25 times, just to progress a level on a chapter? Or is there a faster way?
gona try 2 roomba tomorrow then 
you don't need to 3 star to clear a stage
stars are unlrelated to stage clearance
to clear a stage u only need to kill the boss over and over again till it says 100%
you just fight enemy mobs until the boss shows up and kill it
the "Defat [amount] of enemies" mission often takes multiple runs
also consider using double line instead of single line
also flag Richi
Aside from accuracy buffs, why AA on Fritz anyways?
that's the reason
for acc buff
Bofors should suffice
also because hornet spams planes
planes that are not killed reach the backline, removing the CV concealment, reducing their dmg
15 hit > 10 hit
and I have 6 of the things so why not
Lack of UR AA BPs to begin with.
downgrades suffice till they dont suffice
That's your problem not cheekys
fair enough
cheeky made 6 frogs?
thats alot of rainbows
damn, I wish I could craft that many Frogs
what's plate return rate for scrapping again 
like 25%
That's more 457s than I have
really thinking to scrap your 57mm?
and i will ever haave
25%
so if I scrap one of my 57s it's going to be like 90 AA plates...
was hoping triple 457 would make a come back but nope
Is Taihou a good unit?
And more wyverns and dreks than I have
with her augment sure
wouldnt invest except for tech
Cheeky is 👴
I am not ffs
im surprised only 2 wyvern
Ok not ffs
look closer
oh... it's 1+5
damn man cheeky is rich
💀
ong
out of CV to raise, so wyvern already unequipped
Do battleships or other back line ships even fire their secondary guns?
5 Wywerns to boot
yes if enemies enter within their firing range
yes, mainly at suicide boats
When there are targets in range
actually how many wyverns did I make 
at least 1
at least 1
more than me
at least 4
not more than me
cooper richest

Should I replace watarase with Scylla?
that partly explains why I can't afford to enhance my 3rd La-9
it averages out with how many newbies show up
just play the game for 7 years lol
5 more to go
Depends on your fleets but the answer is likely no, but Scylla can possibly replace someone else
I always forget seacat is a zoomer
I only found out a few days ago
does renhex still count as a zoomer
Should I replace anyone with my current fleet or possibly start a fleet 2? I'm back from a little break and up to chp 10
wtf u are older than me 
Lars not being a boomer comes as a shock to me
same
u can start rotating ships to lvl like scylla sanfran aquilla sara when u have empty slots in mob fleet
idk if would call myself a zoomer
start working on that 2nd fleet
Cheeky too wtf
but im not 5 years old
and retrofit that nelson
You don't need a fleet right now. Go farm the event, pick one from D1 to D3 and put a few low level ships in like Scylla over laffey
mebot is definitely older than me 
year1 
or at least I hope
mebot is older than the dinosaurs
at least ive never taken a break unlike the others
when was perseus rerun


