but I don't have access to level 15 yet
#gameplay-help
viscid swift
wind hazel
the stars are aligning
cobalt rapids
bruh
bold surge
457 gaming?
wind hazel
but nah
cobalt rapids
dont try it at home kids
whole crypt
stiff furnace
sorry for scuffed screenshot 😭 but im hoarding sr's i dont use and idk if any of them are worth keeping now im clearing out my dock
left cedar
its that time !?
viscid swift
so for the vanguard, Plymouth, Mogador, Hindenburg is what I'm thinking
left cedar
⏲️ 
cobalt rapids
sandy and sirius and kazagumo and theres alot of good tech there
ocean herald
3 +13 457
eternal moth
sorry for scuffed screenshot 😭 but im hoarding sr's i dont use and idk if any o...
Do you have a leveled Sandy yet?
viscid swift
that's level 14 though
wind hazel
same score wtf
stark quiver
Cheeky has 3 +13 457?
wind hazel
bruh i was so confused lol
whole crypt
lv14 is like whatever
eager mulch
cheeky has a lot of stuff
stark quiver
Bruh wtf u need 3 for
stiff furnace
Do you have a leveled Sandy yet?
no just those two
whole crypt
gaming
eager mulch
cheeky is a gamer
stark quiver
I only have 2 +13
eternal moth
Then level one to 10 and limit break her
viscid swift
It's not exactly a secret....
cobalt rapids
ionly have 1 +13 457
eternal moth
Personally I wouldnt throw away any SRs
sweet delta
Have you considered giving ply buff to Soyuz?
left cedar
it is, time to
bold surge
Why does Kazagumo have a UR AA gun
wind hazel
why not
stark quiver
Bc it has 15 hit
left cedar
HIT stats to crit
tame jungle
for shooting planes
eternal moth
Because it's the best gun in the game
spare epoch
Holy, that's alot of UR weapon
stark quiver
And this man is rich
viscid swift
I don't have that much....
spare epoch
i need to start grinding
wind hazel
im surprised you have the 3rd +13 mk7
stark quiver
I can +13 a mk7 at the cost of two 457s , a Guam gun and a plygun
hot oriole
My mob fleet
spare epoch
😭
hot oriole
What I can improve it?
cobalt rapids
My mob fleet
drop every1 except unicorn and jav
wind hazel
limit breaking them is a start
eternal moth
My mob fleet
ok, that's scuffed AF. Drop Vestal, put literally ANYONE else there.
cobalt rapids
and read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
whole crypt
Have you considered giving ply buff to Soyuz?
oh right I completely forgot about that 
eternal moth
drop every1 except unicorn and jav
Isn't Talinn a better tank than Port?
whole crypt
I moved her because of firing order for z52 and forgot plymouth buff
cobalt rapids
Isn't Talinn a better tank than Port?
sure but she costs gold bulins
eternal moth
Do you have Enterprise?
stark quiver
Tal also doesn’t do your newb missions for you
And I would know
eternal moth
Fair
spare epoch
who should i speedrun to lv120 for tech point
hot oriole
Do you have Enterprise?
In boss fleet
tame jungle
whoever's closest
eternal moth
In boss fleet
You only need 1 fleet.
viscid swift
you haven't got any Purple Bullins?
whole crypt
who should i speedrun to lv120 for tech point
sandy is good but Kearsarge will be useless to you
spare epoch
wat, so who do i want to play kearsarge
whole crypt
ok this is slightly more encouraging
spare epoch
viscid swift
well you want to get 513 blueprints to be able to dev 30 her
whole crypt
wat, so who do i want to play kearsarge
the problem is you don't even have a single print for kearsarge, you'll just have a useless 0LB ship when you unlock her
eternal moth
Having 2 fleets at the point you are actually makes the game harder
viscid swift
and right now you have literally none
sweet delta
ok this is slightly more encouraging
Which weapons are 12?
crimson glacier
soyuz+nahk is what kear wanted to be
whole crypt
Which weapons are 12?
1 of my 3 la-9s and raff gun
sweet delta
Great then I have less tech but everything 13
spare epoch
i guess i will wait for UR rerun and pull for them
sweet delta
Except the AA guns
stark quiver
How much of those UR +13 thingues do you have
whole crypt
BB rld is irrelevant, not sure how much FP/AVI you may be missing
viscid swift
I don't even know if I'll get my 3rd La-9 in time for tomorrow
whole crypt
my 4th is 19 prints away
stark quiver
0 
whole crypt
Nakhimov is working with a +13 Skyraider
wind hazel
cheeky actually behind on la9?
sweet delta
Hormet and Doria are the 9nky missing main fleet tech, I have literally all other main, including AA and ASW
whole crypt
I haven't leveled Doria M either but that's like 1FP
viscid swift
Nakhimov is working with a +13 Skyraider
Bf-109G is better than Skyraider against medium btw
sweet delta
Cheeky spreading misinformation for half a year
hot oriole
Having 2 fleets at the point you are actually makes the game harder
So you mean this is enough?
viscid swift
shad up
eternal moth
So you mean this is enough?
Limit break your ships man. You're missing SO much power
whole crypt
but yeh getting the gun plates would be a start, finishing arb this month should give me enough to finish raff gun
viscid swift
So you mean this is enough?
well the ships need more limit breaks asap
eternal moth
If you have the bulins to MLB Raff, though, that's way more than I used to get to chapter 10 on my alt
shadow yarrow
What causes whirpools in opsi to sometimes stunlock you?
tame jungle
rng
hot oriole
If you have the bulins to MLB Raff, though, that's way more than I used to get t...
Unfortunately, I haven't had rainbow bulin....yet
eternal moth
Then don't use URs
hot oriole
But I have a bunch of yellow and purple one
whole crypt
Hormet and Doria are the 9nky missing main fleet tech, I have literally all othe...
but yeh I think it's a fairly good chance to oneshot with your comp, the problem is getting 4 La-9s and +13ing them
eternal moth
What other battleships do you have?
sweet delta
According. To my research, 3 la9 with unzen is only like 85%90%
whole crypt
19 prints is going to be like 3 weeks out
sweet delta
So it may be better to use Helena for 90%
whole crypt
at that point I'm just waiting for barrage
stark quiver
Sooooo
Is this a ez meta
hot oriole
What other battleships do you have?
As you can see here
whole crypt
According. To my research, 3 la9 with unzen is only like 85%90%
I'll let you know after I +13 raff gun
whole crypt
Sooooo
Is this a ez meta
if you sensibly gear-focused for PR7 from the start 🙃
stark quiver
If it’s a hard one
Ima have to recommission the 4 shot fleet
worldly pewter
Then don't use URs
the other i was recommending using 0lb raff because of her giga cracked skills overall 
new players should get 2 bulins asap from the pass and the new player event
stark quiver
if you sensibly gear-focused for PR7 from the start 🙃
2 la9 and a dream
9 more bp for third
echo vector
Is the best gun for rafaelo the new in game gun in her event shop ?
stark quiver
Best for med
whole crypt
Is the best gun for rafaelo the new in game gun in her event shop ?
best gun depends on where you're using the ship
bold surge
What plane should I put in TB slot for Nahkimov in Hornet META fight?
pulsar hornet
ok this is slightly more encouraging
Hmm, why is Fritz used btw over the other carriers
whole crypt
Hmm, why is Fritz used btw over the other carriers
🚀 ✈️
pulsar hornet
Ahhh
bold surge
Rich I am
sweet delta
Oh wait Unzen should be off tank
whole crypt
not sure about Unzen's aux but that's more of a margin of error
stark quiver
4 la9 moment wtf
bold surge
But 4 la 9's is a bit crazy
pulsar hornet
If you only have two rainbow rocket planes, who gets prio between the two?
stark quiver
Super rich or super lucky stig
crimson glacier
probably in 6 days
bold surge
Is Admiralty Fire Control Table bad? Why not use it over black shell?
stark quiver
Timing
crimson glacier
you need to shoot just before nahk
sweet delta
Yeah I actually want Fumo over black torp now. I first posted that picture 4 days ago
bold surge
7????
cobalt rapids
If you only have two rainbow rocket planes, who gets prio between the two?
fritz but it depends on ur timing
bold surge
I have 6 Wyverns
whole crypt
fritz makes better use of the planes but if timing is wrong then you need to split the planes up
elfin hollow
Uh...
stark quiver
Uh?
whole crypt
if you want to ask about using data packs the answer is no
eternal moth
If you only have two rainbow rocket planes, who gets prio between the two?
I gave one to each
whole crypt
La-9 is slow so if you throw 2 on Fritz whatever plane setup on Nakhimov might end up being a wee bit too fast
cobalt rapids
this works however
whole crypt
well yes you can slow Nakhimov down with slower TB but you're also widening the gap between Nakhimov and Soyuz
eternal moth
this works however
That seems like a really big gap between Fritz and Nakh
eternal moth
MMMmm.... bacon
sweet delta
whole crypt
is 21.25 on soyuz 0 tech no oath
cobalt rapids
well no oath it shows but yes it 0 tech
whole crypt
oath 0 tech is still a wee bit fast
eternal moth
One-shot 14, but I don't know if it'll work tomorrow. We'll find out.
viscid swift
all I can say is I'm lacking the +13 AA guns to maintain conceal at this stage
you can feel the damage loss
bold surge
what website do u guys use to build fleets?
eternal moth
I had over 1k gold AA plates, so I'm good there.
sweet delta
You're seeing enemy planes survive with between 0. And 100% HP?
AA guns only, Not counting plane interception
cobalt rapids
not between 
viscid swift
I wouldn't say 100% HP but some of them have been making it through with high HP
and this with 4 strike Nahkimov which uses Breguet
sweet delta
Planes should be getting oneshotted even if you have full +10 AA
viscid swift
also, the game was lagging really badly towards the end
woven star
Too many sprites effects
sweet delta
4 strike has higher AA requirements for keeping conceal too
viscid swift
yeah I figured as much
pulsar hornet
Hmmm, so who needs to fire first again?
undone plover
guys in 15 mob boss mob would u prefer FdG or vanguard in boss fleet?
cobalt rapids
vanguard
sweet delta
Any order, but prefer nakhi before fritz
turbid marsh
nice, z52 helena plymouth able to survive lv15
undone plover
z52 can but helena not ideal for ch15
the fights are too long and u dont want to sync around her buff
oh I thought u said ch15 
patent pivot
woven star
89.58 sec for last cv wave - is it too close to map timing?
spiral fjord
What are some good ships for mob fleet in ch14? Im stuck on 14-3
undone plover
89.58 sec for last cv wave - is it too close to map timing?
is this arbiter fight?
worldly pewter
What are some good ships for mob fleet in ch14? Im stuck on 14-3
tank asw damage
woven star
is this arbiter fight?
boss meta 90 sec
undone plover
What are some good ships for mob fleet in ch14? Im stuck on 14-3
there is a lot but easier if u just post your dock in a thread
spiral fjord
there is a lot but easier if u just post your dock in a thread
In a thread?
worldly pewter
spiral fjord
Where do I make it?
worldly pewter
undone plover
boss meta 90 sec
yeah not sure if u meant 79.58 but like lars said meta fights are 80 second
u have to take into account jamming and ordnance travel time as well
spiral fjord
CH14 Fleet Help
forest palm
CVs are catching up to 80 seconds 
forest palm
it's a collectors item at best, otherwise you'd only use it for some obscure sync timer
sweet delta
Super niche, just treat it as worse than purple helldiver
whole crypt
wouldn't 4-strike also be disadvantaged by higher EVA later
glossy granite
Hmm, are the D3 drops decent?
sweet delta
Until someone gives you homeworks to copy that include it
clear harbor
Are there any good carriers (not light carriers) other than Enterprise that I can buy from a shop or farm W1 - 7?
sweet delta
Independence but must be retrofitted because she's really bad without
whole crypt
Saratoga is 4-1 drop
sweet delta
Saratoga is decent without retrofit but peaks lower than independence later when you max both, and Saratoga is more expensive to max
clear harbor
I guess the ship doesn't need to be amazing. I just need someone to fill out my roster for Hard mode, but I think I can manage with my main fleet.
But something that's also somewhat future proof would be good.
Sounds like I should go with Indepenence. Maybe by the time I need her, I'll be able to farm retro materials better.
undone plover
was this the new best asw plane? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Gannet
tame jungle
isn't independence cvl?
sweet delta
She is a light carrier
sweet delta
What chapter hard mode and what's your fleet
woven star
Saratoga fine. She has good stats and aircraft efficiency but after retro. before as all elites
whole crypt
Saratoga is great
clear harbor
I don't know if this is helpful. No one's fully Retrofitted.
whole crypt
even before retrofit she has a good loadout for early to mid campaign
sweet delta
You don't need another CV for chapter 4 hard. Only for 5
clear harbor
Oh, I might have been thinking of W5, then.
woven star
imo she best because she has 2 DB slots with 140% and high avi stats ofc it's almost incredible at her cost
clear harbor
Oh cool, I should be able to farm her from 6-4, too.
woven star
if you can move further don't focus on her farm. you goal 9-1. just saying don't spend a lot oil if she not droping for long
clear harbor
Okay, yeah, I guess I'm worrying about farming hard mode, but I should still be focusing on getting to 9-1
sweet delta
Saratoga drops from C2 of the event starting tomorrow
woven star
maximum retro near 85-90 level...idr
whole crypt
again, doesn't matter, her base loadout is good regardless
clear harbor
Maybe I get lucky and pull Implacable. Is she good? Seems like people are excited for her.
whole crypt
UR good but not that great for your current level
woven star
But waiting 2 years for rerun is awful too
haughty dust
any of these items worth crafting at any point?
jaunty vault
ryuusei is good
woven star
Otherwise other ssr in banner is not best. Whatever Kimmo said about Scylla
haughty dust
ryuusei is good
Looking at those images, which one are you referring to?
jaunty vault
reppuu and seafang are hellcat side grades
eager mulch
Aichi B7A
jaunty vault
Looking at those images, which one are you referring to?
3rd image
left 2nd in line
eager mulch
3ed
jaunty vault
ember totem
waow it's cooper, big fan
viscid swift
wow, it's ChieN
eager mulch
jaunty vault
haughty dust
reppuu and seafang are hellcat side grades
wdym by side grades?
eager mulch
equal
haughty dust
I do not see a Hellcat in that list @grizzled tulip only Seafang
jaunty vault
/wiki f6f hellcat
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
jaunty vault
first link T3 version
haughty dust
That I think is the BTD-1 Destroyer
jaunty vault
why do you think so
woven star
Hellcat is a good cheap fighter for beginner. One from the low top tier. So reppuu and seafang good as hellcat
jaunty vault
what thought process led you to think a hellcat is a BTD-1 Destroyer
haughty dust
Because if I’m looking at the one you’re referencing correctly, that’s what it says
forest palm
this is just trash
haughty dust
the other Cooper in here mentioned Hellcat but I do not see a single Hellcat in that list of images I posted
jaunty vault
yea because there isn't
ivory pawn
Because Hellcat was a comparison point. Hellcat is a good plane, these planes (Seafang and the other one) you do have are similarly good.
eager mulch
what other cooper
haughty dust
The only ones I see are Type 0 Fighter Model 52, Suisei, Messerschmitt Me-155A, and Prototype Su-2.
hollow gust
any of these items worth crafting at any point?
haughty dust
yeah crafted Seafang already
If I scroll down a little bit, these are the only hellcats I’m seeing
forest palm
look 6 Helldivers
jaunty vault
woven star
so how good Helldiver?
hollow gust
forest palm
for the Tenrai poor, Helldiver is the best thing you can get for a DB
woven star
for the Tenrai poor, Helldiver is the best thing you can get for a DB
But there is no Tenrai... ok. ok. just joking. it's fine
haughty dust
I currently have 3 of those elite rarity Helldivers on three characters and I still have 4 unequipped at level 10.
plus 10 that are not even leveled up yet. So I do not really think I need any crafted right now.
sweet delta
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
- For the richest with high tech and oaths and gear. Max CV + 0 BB. Really needs the tech/gear/oaths damage to be better than Helena. 4 La9 is required, if you have 3, then go ⬇️
- For the richest without high tech and oaths and gear. Max CV + 0 BB. Lower CV is possible, give nakhi a faster TB. Or do 4 la9 with Helena.
- 2 la9, Max CV + 0 BB. Again, lower CV is possible, give nakhi a faster TB.
- 4 strike 0 la9, Soyuz needs oath + max rld, otherwise just go AFCT instead of autoloader and give up the fourth ice barrage. CVs needs near max rld/oath to finish 4 strikes
- 4 salvo 0 la9, require max or near max BB rld and oaths to do as much of the fourth salvo as possible
For the strongest accounts, 1 > 2 > 3/4/5, where 3/4/5 probably have similar win rates.
For near strongest accounts, probably 2 >= 1 > 3/4/5.
For weak accounts, you can modify Fleet 2, the 3 strike CVs, with helena and fewer la9s
For accounts without nakhi/soyuz, you can glhf
woven star
plus 10 that are not even leveled up yet. So I do not really think I need any cr...
just keep them in bag. don't spend too much plates on them or just don't spend plates for now on them. you will regret leveling them. craft and upgrade them as you need
hollow gust
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and...
So 2 for max tech and oath is fine ?
haughty dust
just keep them in bag. don't spend too much plates on them or just don't spend p...
yeah have only spent plates in the last several months getting necessary gear to 10. If you see anything in my inventory that is above 10 that was a long time about and thought I was reading what people posted in here for stuff to get to 13 correctly. Have not done so in a long time. However, also running out of gear space if anyone has any advice on gear I can dismantle for space. I can show that in a thread if need be
undone plover
guys is hinden gun better than drake for mob? cuz pierce?
jaunty vault
pierce doesn't really help much
sweet delta
just depends on how much damage you do to kill with 1/3 scan. The fleet has potential to go up to 90-92% wins with max tech, oaths, and +13 main weapons
woven star
yeah have only spent plates in the last several months getting necessary gear to...
/plus13 nothing except these
jaunty vault
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and...
@inland shoal pin
did I ping two people
hollow gust
I have everything maxed out, just no 4th LA-9 , got fucked so hard this year
jaunty vault
0 LA9 gaming
haughty dust
Do you have the link otherwise I will have to check to see if I have it said. I cannot save that image for some reason
sweet delta
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and...
- Triple BB - lmao
haughty dust
Ger to trash
woven star
No Skyraiders on Hornet2M is it realy bad?
haughty dust
created a thread showing equipped and unequipped gear if anyone has any thoughts since running out of space. I stopped at common because that should be obvious
eternal moth
I guess I'll be going with option 3 since I only have 2 LA-9
hollow gust
No Skyraiders on Hornet2M is it realy bad?
You have to account for timing
forest palm
just gonna be lazy, and not change teams for meta 
north wharf
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and...
What does the 4 strike vs 4 salvo mean?
woven star
You have to account for timing
I know I make something like but with Skyraider at sec. Fritz slot and Homing Beacon and got better dmg. Btw 22.02 sec on Fritz. not sure how it's bad
rain vine
Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.0
1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and...
what would be the next best aa from the rainbow aa?
not entirely keen on spending 41 UR selectors
boreal wagon
you probably didnt set hit rate to have skyraider outperform bfg
haughty dust
Any thoughts on my thread though of what gear I can trash to make some space?
spiral fjord
How does one possess a Fairey Gannet
tame jungle
gearlab
bold surge
Do you have to manually reduce Soyuz reload from tech to have her fire after Nahkimov?
cobalt rapids
What does the 4 strike vs 4 salvo mean?
strike is (airstrike) when cv launch
salvo is when bb launch
but in this case it means the same thing because both teams launch 4 times
cobalt rapids
Any thoughts on my thread though of what gear I can trash to make some space?
/equip safe to scrap
odd rootBOT
cobalt rapids
Do you have to manually reduce Soyuz reload from tech to have her fire after Nah...
depends on loadout but with 2la9 and saiun even 0tech bb and max tech nahki doesnt fire after cat but it doesnt matter they just need to be close
whole stump
Are these worth doi mg?
turbid marsh
no
bold surge
Its better to use the oil in combat
whole stump
Kk ty
spare epoch
, i have been spamming that forever
turbid marsh
then looks like you dont grind as often as you think
my alt account does that because i only log in like... 1 time in 3 days
spare epoch
im starting to grind alot rn, start doing world 13 right now
full drum
is there a way to defend the backline from damage i lose everytiime because of them
tiny cape
Is there any way to get to that energy matrix or am i just locked out of getting that?
spare epoch
if its has purple part, do i run this in the future or only run the one with cube
undone plover
only cube if u are active
spare epoch
mkayy
full drum
they look at the exploding boats they just go through everytime
keen sable
if its has purple part, do i run this in the future or only run the one with cu...
No run no cube. It will never change unless you dew it
keen sable
It does not.
bold surge
It stays until you do the mission
undone plover
if u are going to overcap on oil and u cant play to not overcap then run it
that is the only time it is worth it
keen sable
they look at the exploding boats they just go through everytime
Use better guns or maybe bb that can use better guns
full drum
@keen sable problem im just lv 34
keen sable
Yes and the determination to put a gun tends to lead to bad choices.
If you want a one liner, use AP. But start with who is your bb.
final tree
Is there any way to get to that energy matrix or am i just locked out of getting...
It's unreachable, the random generation sometimes screws the objectives like that
full drum
@keen sable the bb is a front ship ?
tiny cape
undone plover
guys how do slows stack?
Like what is soyuz + fritz slow combined?
ivory pawn
<@353643568310779915> problem im just lv 34
Remember to limit break your ships too. Level 30 is enough to do so twice, which on most BBs unlocks +2 secondary gun mounts, a great explody ship killer.
BB is battleship btw.
keen sable
<@353643568310779915> the bb is a front ship ?
The ship that when you lock at its stats says bb. (Or bc rarely)
full drum
i do it when i have the materials
final tree
<:Sadge:808684850361925672>
Don't worry too much, you can do so many OS maps that one missing objective doesn't change anything. In endgame, if spending all AP, you end with overflow of vouchers for the monthly shop and able to clear all the ports for useful materials
full drum
i guess i have no bb
eternal moth
i guess i have no bb
Pennsylvania
tiny cape
Don't worry too much, you can do so many OS maps that one missing objective does...
Yea, i was just wondering, if there is a way to somehow get in there
full drum
is in my team
eternal moth
Limit break her again, that will triple her secondary guns, giving her far greater chance to blow up suicide boats
full drum
can i do something better?
ivory pawn
Swap Penn and Uni.
eternal moth
Always limit break your ships as soon as you can. You can do that with purple bulins, and put Penny in the middle
ivory pawn
Also probably swap out Belfast for Portland, and stick Portland on the left where Z23 is.
soft raft
Where did Portland go
full drum
in training
soft raft
like as in getting her skills leveled up?
That shouldnt stop you from slotting her in
not like you really should raise her skills tbh, esp her red one
undone plover
yeah when portland has more levels switch her position with z23
full trout
Should I even try pulling for implacable if I only have 170 wisdom cubes?
tame jungle
yeah
cobalt rapids
definetly
river junco
Yeah, great slow/stop + you’ll get some free pulls since it’s a rerun
cobalt rapids
but u should use ur free pulls first
turbid marsh
Should I even try pulling for implacable if I only have 170 wisdom cubes?
yeah, you get like 88 cubes worth of tickets as well
sweet delta
save enough coins so that you dont wait to spend free tickets first and then find out you ran out of coins
stark quiver
Do you guys run out of quick finishers
stark quiver
For some reason my qf count is always lower than my cube count
cobalt rapids
my cube count started to come close aswell but it was much lower before so thats why i play it safe
novel solstice
Do you guys run out of quick finishers
No, it's really hard to run out of them if you play regularly because so many commissions give them out. I've got almost 5000 of them now.
cloud panther
can I skip the dark mode in META?
cobalt rapids
wdym
cloud panther
screen just turns dark
cobalt rapids
hornet blinding thingy ? no unskippable
maybe skippable if u kill her before she gets 3 stacks actually
cloud panther
I remember in opsi? there are some bullets if they hit me it goes dark
woven star
Scylla isn't bad as I thought according to her barrages. Is it better use 550 twin torp instead of triple?
What scale her barrage: fp or trp? Fp I guess
cobalt rapids
u can check them here
forest palm
Scylla is practically a 14 + 15 staple
marsh plover
My Boss fleet can’t auto 15-4, any suggestions to change ships?
Mob Fleet is [Unicorn, Musashi, Aquila][Laffey 2, Jeanne, Guam]
My current Boss fleet is [FdG, Perseus, NJ], [Helena, Anchorage]
I have almost everyone in the game by URs except Alsace/Mogador/Scylla (boo me no likey designs). Pls ping if you have advice
woven star
I check it on wiki. seems it's mostly fp. so twin torp should be fine
cobalt rapids
change boss fleet to something like soyuz fritz/nahkimov volga - napoli sandy z52
hollow gust
For some reason my qf count is always lower than my cube count
That's a sign you aren't going enough commissions
forest palm
cobalt gate
jin meta help
echo vector
My Boss fleet can’t auto 15-4, any suggestions to change ships?
Mob Fleet is [U...
FdG and NJ seems sort of underwhelming there. Consider using Bismarck zwei and Implaccable. Perseus is fine. Who's the last vanguard for boss fleet ?
Hindenburg should be fine
hollow gust
NoAAburg 
jaunty vault
tfw no AA is better than bad AA
forest palm
dude really started listing off ships without knowing what the individual has, that's funny
just have every ship in the game, it's easy
also doesn't Hinden have a Ghost AA Gun?
stoic forge
Is this gun good
marsh plover
change boss fleet to something like soyuz fritz/nahkimov volga - napoli sandy z5...
bwuh why are the lewdest ships the best
thin nova
she good?
forest palm
Is this gun good
very niche, not worthwhile
stoic forge
bwuh why are the lewdest ships the best
It's not
stoic forge
very niche, not worthwhile
So i should not get it?
marsh plover
I guess k just need to semi-auto for Cleve 2
worldly pewter
very niche, not worthwhile
wasn't it used for jintuu meta fight on kear 
?
forest palm
wasn't it used for jintuu meta fight on kear <:KearThonk:1333714393849921597> ?
if it is that's a very specific niche
stoic forge
Is there like a tier list for the best ones for 15-4
I don't know
marsh plover
FdG and NJ seems sort of underwhelming there. Consider using Bismarck zwei and I...
Thx I have those two
iron lily
should I be leveling this in super early game if I don't have the ship?
cobalt rapids
bwuh why are the lewdest ships the best
bwuh
sweet delta
should I be leveling this in super early game if I don't have the ship?
It has hit and it has FP 
marsh plover
For Bismarck 2, how do I keep her alive?
cobalt rapids
a combination of having enough defense and offense
viscid swift
what gear are you using exactly
keen sable
now everything fine?
Ok so now that a bb is at least in the correct place, what gun did you give her?
elfin hollow
How can I unblock it?
cobalt rapids
Is there like a tier list for the best ones for 15-4
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 this tierlist has a w15 section
stoic forge
What's the best way to get this thing
cobalt rapids
opsi
stoic forge
Or is it just rarer then other thing
stoic forge
What's opsi
cobalt rapids
How can I unblock it?
sweet delta
Sairen operation
stoic forge
Sairen operation
I know i am having double the amount of other material
fair lance
It's just used more
cobalt rapids
income is the same =/ spendings are the same
thin nova
I'm thinking about making a Dragon Empire fleet, but there is no main fleet ship
stoic forge
It's just used more
I don't think i have use it
thin nova
stark quiver
I'm thinking about making a Dragon Empire fleet, but there is no main fleet ship
Uh ok?
sweet delta
I'm thinking about making a Dragon Empire fleet, but there is no main fleet ship
Retrofit the DDGs, and hwah jah is, in fact, a main fleet ship
marsh plover
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZ...
Thank u!
stoic forge
Oh come on don't doubt me
thin nova
Retrofit the DDGs, and hwah jah is, in fact, a main fleet ship
DDGs? Anshan and Fu Shun right?
viscid swift
yeah
sweet delta
I have tracked my opsi materials
sweet delta
And the income of electronics is not lower than the others
boreal wagon
they are main fleet ship?
they are technically both
viscid swift
they are main fleet ship?
they can be after you retro them
thin nova
they can be after you retro them
hmmmm
stoic forge
Which one
cobalt rapids
right is much better and u shouldnt use left
cobalt gate
right should be better
stoic forge
right is much better and u shouldnt use left
Is the left trash
cobalt gate
its a bit slow
cobalt rapids
pretty much
cobalt gate
also these things still miss a lot in auto
stoic forge
Which one should i use then
forest palm
it's a good thing you can't physically +13 SSR Quint Mags
cobalt rapids
the gold ones here
the white ones till u get quad mags
and dont enhance random gear above +10
small rune
gimme 3 ships that has MLB prio rn
silk helm
should i stop cubing pr7 if I only have napoli left? Im spending hella cubes and just getting dupe prints
cobalt rapids
u can mlb 3 UR rn ?
thin nova
gimme 3 ships that has MLB prio rn
alsace 4sure no? isnt she the best BB right now?
small rune
and how does current meta BB and CV comp look like rn? im stil using Biskotwo Vanny and Sovetsky...
cobalt rapids
so those arent even all URs
small rune
u can mlb 3 UR rn ?
yeah i think i can MLB like 3 rn... i have like quite a lot of UR bulins i can buy from the shop
cobalt rapids
can you show every UR
viscid swift
So you have 44k Specialized Cores
small rune
fair lance
got fritz but didn't manage to get z52?
small rune
got fritz but didn't manage to get z52?
idk what happened but i just logged in and pull stuffs, didnt have time to play tht much lmao
fair lance
Dang big sad
cobalt rapids
amagi and fritz and then alsace
small rune
amagi and fritz and then alsace
noice tyty
cobalt gate
i forgot did sp events ever give rainbow equipment?
eternal moth
Like for OpSi? Bisco, Soyuz, Alsace, Agir, Helena, Ply
small rune
ive been using Bisko2 Vanny Sovet & Nano Haku Imp for like over a year
small rune
Like for OpSi? Bisco, Soyuz, Alsace, Agir, Helena, Ply
oh ok so vanny got replaced by alsace
cobalt rapids
top 5 for bossing are bz soyuz alsace vanny musashi
top 2 for mobbing are raffaelo and musashi
top for cv are amagi nakhimov fritz shinano yk2 and implac for bossing but like showdowns have been hybrid for a while and they each work better on diff armor and depends on gimmicks aswell
eternal moth
Those are both fine. I think Alsace has a slight advantage over Vanguard due to her personal DPS, but the difference is pretty small AFAIK
cobalt rapids
for opsi hybrid better aswell unless like heavy but even then hybrid is still a thing for fastest
eternal moth
ive been using Bisko2 Vanny Sovet & Nano Haku Imp for like over a year
Shinano/Amagi/Imp edges out Haku as well. Or you can do Shinano/Amagi/Haku if you have Eldridge for a slow.
small rune
btw whats meant by hybrid?
small rune
ahhh aright, thanks guys love yall
north wharf
Is there a reason for keeping the 60k oil in my mail storage or feel free to use it as needed?
cobalt rapids
im not saving it but u may feel like saving it if ure the type to grind event exclusive gear that happens to be good in higher amounts than normal
north wharf
Will probs just use it then
cobalt gate
so for jin meta you want the least amount of different faction right?
latent pelican
Hey guys, Just got to chapter 14 and stuck here, my mob squad dies pretty much on the 2nd battle...thoughts on any improvements? I know my vanguard lineup is really weak 😦 Boss: Raffaelo Yorkii Fritz z52 Hindenburg Sandy
Mob: Enterprise Unicorn Aquila(fighters) Agir Duisburg Roon........Currently trying to research/obtain Plymouth as I feel like I don't have too many strong vanguards...thanks!
viscid swift
that's it?
north wharf
Why u gotta do him like that
viscid swift
what
anyway, time to go back to the drawing board for a bit
by which I mean wait until you've got some more options leveled
viscid swift
getting and Dev30ing FDG would be the main one to start with
Anchorage would also help
soft raft
why is raffello in boss
that's not her strong suit
Your mob fleet also has basically zero suicide boat interception, which is doubly even more cringe when W14 has bulkier ramming boats
latent pelican
Your mob fleet also has basically zero suicide boat interception, which is doubl...
sorry I just started a month ago-ish, she's in boss because I don't have any other UR bb's, ill try swapping her over to mob, ill look into suicide boat interception too thanks for the pointers
soft raft
Honestly feels more like you need to just grind W12 and slowly build up more ships
Cuz that dock doesnt really look that suitable for W14+ when there's better options that you would ideally be using by that point
latent pelican
Honestly feels more like you need to just grind W12 and slowly build up more shi...
got it will do! Thanks so much, i figured my pool is really small atm T_T
keen sable
i forgot did sp events ever give rainbow equipment?
Does do hard mode 5 times count?
cobalt gate
?
little tree
soft raft
was that for Z Flag when it first came out?
eternal basalt
keen sable
It's even easier than it seems because back then you had to do hard 6 times a day.
rigid onyx
got it will do! Thanks so much, i figured my pool is really small atm T_T
tbh you're really close to being able to clear w14, you just need
- A BB in your mob fleet to intercept suicide boats (you can wait for another UR, if willing)
- Kick out non dev-30 hindenburg, and an overall slightly better vangaurd
- l120+ every ship
4.* some new opsi gear
w14 is a huge step from w13, and there's no real reason to rush it though
and also I assume you dont have opsi gear
latent pelican
tbh you're really close to being able to clear w14, you just need
1. A BB in y...
noob question, for hindenburg I cant prio research her anymore as I believe ive obtained the alloted points I could get from having her as prio, from here on out, my only way is RNG getting her and/or event exchanges for the universal tickets thingies for her right (if that makes sense)? and got it, i do have a bit of opsi gear, fritz and raff are pretty much opsi +10'd with a +13 and the other UR's are close behind, but yes my gear still has catching up to do
viscid swift
that's catchup not research
but yes your main way of getting prints for her will be from PR6 research focus
rigid onyx
I'd also be a lot more cautious about what you +13 because often people don't +13 campaign-focused gear
viscid swift
though PR6 is dead last of the seasons you'd want to focus anyway
latent pelican
Yeah I just figured out how the system worked kinda, I had it on pr7 this whole time...for better or for worse
sweet delta
Did you exclude PR1 from the want list 
sweet delta
sorry I just started a month ago-ish, she's in boss because I don't have any oth...
Looks like 3 months not 1 btw
latent pelican
has it been that long 😭 I joined I think on the last 2 days of fritz haha
viscid swift
I think a little bit of common sense trumps academic here...
stark quiver
When is hornet lvl 15 for en
viscid swift
tomorrow
stark quiver
Bruh
sweet delta
Effectively 24 hours after JP
jaunty vault
effectively 10 hours 15 minutes
trim sparrow
Sup guys any specific gear for Raffaello or just standard? Just gonna use her in 12-4 for now
eternal moth
Standard mob gear
trim sparrow
Copy, shes a mob BB?
rigid onyx
mob focused but still a rainbow
eternal moth
Yeah, her single-target damage is pretty low, but has really good mob damage
sweet delta
What's with the X
trim sparrow
Ahh got it, right on. Hows the new sub also? Worth leveling with the other gold Italian sub together?
jaunty vault
What's with the X
sweet delta
In 10h15m we have maintenance
atomic abyss
Ahh got it, right on. Hows the new sub also? Worth leveling with the other gold ...
good, but doesnt change the established sub comps
jaunty vault
ah
trim sparrow
I see, thanks guys
jaunty vault
eternal basalt
What's with the X
We do not run a FULL day behind JP
rigid onyx
so it would be 18h15m
trim path
when people refer to farming 12-4 with shitters, dose that entail flagging with the cross-fleet fleet? because my mob doesn't even chew through 15 bars combined before sinking on boss
sweet delta
We do not run a FULL day behind JP
We're 16 h behind and have a 8h maintenance
You almost never want to use one fleet for both mobs and boss
rigid onyx
i just have 2 fleets to level for 12-4
sweet delta
It's not efficient in the long term because you need stronger ships and then you'll only have weak ships left after a few years
rigid onyx
it's a lot harder to get one fleet that can kill both mob & boss even with xfleets than just 2 fleets
jaunty vault
i use 2 fleets for 12-1 
trim path
thank god, i was sat here scratching my head thinking i was missing something. ty for the confirmation
jaunty vault
(12-1 is significantly easier than 12-4)
eternal moth
You don't lose a whole lot by having a strong fleet kill the boss
rigid onyx
if by strong you mean max level isn't it basically losing out on ~10%+ of the exp
jaunty vault
you get capped by cognitive chips either ways as long as you farm regularly
rigid onyx
you can bank exp
jaunty vault
yeah but why
rigid onyx
and then move on to 15-1/14-1 if you're truly done
eager mulch
(12-1 is significantly easier than 12-4)
how much easier
jaunty vault
significantly
crisp estuary
Fritz, Z52, or the new UR BB, who to max next? How good is the new UR BB? Replacing anyone?
eager mulch
wao
jaunty vault
fritz probably
crisp estuary
The SAP gun any good?
jaunty vault
it is
crisp estuary
jaunty vault
well you don't really play the game anymore anyways
crisp estuary
jaunty vault
fwiw it is better than champy gun vs medium armour
steady rain
is there a recommended guide for new players?
eternal moth
keen sable
if by strong you mean max level isn't it basically losing out on ~10%+ of the ex...
It's really weird to insist on using max level ships for boss but then refusing to use anything over 100 on mob. (Not you the one fleeters) also using a real boss fleet increases sorties per hour by at least 1.6 and up to 3.2 or so. This is the problem with 12-1 also. Sure the oil efficiency sounds dreamy but the time and morale efficiency is terrible.
hybrid pelican
So where to farm?
keen sable
12+ it's your choice
It's pretty clear that 12-1 costs the most morale per xp though
Time can get a little tricky as 14-4 and stuff is really slow with long fights
timid beacon
might as well wait to farm for events anyways, get those completions points for the store items
rigid onyx
12-4 & 12-1 are best in general
13-1/14-1/15-1 for cogs if cog gated (needs carries, so less xp/oil)
13-4 good as well, but much harder than 12-4
timid beacon
and you can usually get away with using some very low level ships supported by some heavies
rigid onyx
if there's an event just do d3
timid beacon
there's an event (rerun) tomorrow, get your farmer overalls on
viscid swift
no need really
missions and first of the day clear bonus on the normal maps nets you almost 40k event points alone
which is more than enough to get all of the important stuff for very minimal cost
timid beacon
oh for pure points efficiency, yeah absolutely
I just usually grind D3 anyways for XP for my lower ships, plus if the gear drop is good
rigid onyx
If you don't need the event points D3 isn't great
timid beacon
usually has the better gear print drop, depending on the event
rigid onyx
d3 for gear drops is brainrot
timid beacon
I play AL, my brain is rotted
rigid onyx
unless it's unique like hvar
viscid swift
I never bother with D3, 12-1 is easier anyway
timid beacon
brain smooth, shipgirl tiddy big
viscid swift
ok...
timid beacon
but yeah this event it's just the donut AA gun at D3, so not gonna grind that
rigid onyx
grinding any map drops for gear is horrid, except for very limited cases
stark quiver
even for hvars going all out was a horrific experience
timid beacon
yeah that did suck lol
rigid onyx
ok but now imagine instead of hvars its mediocre gear that you get passively through gear boxes and lab
truly worth the oil
timid beacon
yeah in that case, not grinding it
stark quiver
i only grind event if they have low oil cap
else id 1:1 b1/2/3 and be done with it
rustic adder
Could you run 13-1 with 3 lvl 100 dds as mob fleet?
forest palm
you certainly could
stark quiver
Could you run 13-1 with 3 lvl 100 dds as mob fleet?
yes
dreamy blade
Lv100 laffii guam sandy ez
rigid onyx
what
storm heron
laffii, eld, z52
dreamy blade
Oh wait dd
novel solstice
Probably depends on which dds and what equipment you put on them and what tech bonuses they have.
But really, the answer to questions like that is "try it and find out". One experimental run doesn't cost that much oil -- if it works that's great, but if it fails you've lost the oil for one farming run. You were going to do a lot of farming runs, so it's not that bad to lose the oil from one.
stark quiver
guam and sandy is infact not dd
but yes you can run a farm fleet with 3 l100 dds in 13-1, it will require more carries in backline
storm heron
can fletcher team do it tho
slow fox
laffii, eld, z52
I like this one
rigid onyx
vanguard hull type doesnt really matter nearly as much as their skills and stats
forest palm
I mean Indep, and Unicorn are enough AA wise
rigid onyx
3 DDs is a useless metric
storm heron
maybe if backline something like raff aquila unicorn maxed then even 3 bulldogs can (?)
rigid onyx
it matters slightly in like w14 where DDs having evasion making the larger part of their eHP makes them relatively tankier than other hull types (that were otherwise the same eHP), usually, but that's literally the only thing I can think of.
Maybe that one meta fight where you stack DDs for speed on auto to not get caught in clouds
forest palm
again this is why I said, "you certainly could", but it heavily based on context, cause there's many factors that lead into this, 13-1 is by all means not that much harder than 12-4, but with the level difference you are gonna run into a wall
rustic adder
I would be running lvl 125 backline, and like random purple/blue dds
forest palm
then 12-1 is going to be pound for pound better for your oil
13-1 I can understand for chip farming, but for xp it just ups your oil cost 
well as long as you understand that much though 
rustic adder
Was more of a thought experiment, havnt done 13/14/15 in a while without using maxed fleets
forest palm
you can drag a few underleveled ships in 15-1 
rustic adder
Full frontline tho?
forest palm
not sure of the details because I don't care for it, but I imagine it may be doable 
rigid onyx
I think you may for 14-1
probably depending on level advantage maybe, you just need the frontmost to survive
viscid swift
I still don't see the advantages of sacking XP just for cogs tbh
rustic adder
Kinda need all 3 to survive for farming
forest palm
I still don't see the advantages of sacking XP just for cogs tbh
nor do I
also the clear times just become more, and more abysmal
rigid onyx
If you're done with main fleet is it even sacking xp
rustic adder
But none of you suggest 11-1? 
tame jungle
no cogs
rigid onyx
11-1 = 0 cogs = 0 value
viscid swift
it may have made more sense back in the day, but these days reruns are more frequent so there's more situations where you get an influx of cogs
viscid swift
and 11-1 is harder than 12-1 anyway, not joking with that one
rustic adder
The harder part is fair
slow fox
Why not 10-1
tame jungle
because i do not like him
stark quiver
when implac rerun
soft raft
when implac rerun
Maint for it starts in 9 hours
stark quiver
hushed sorrel
when implac rerun
reruns are said to be 2years after the actual event
tame jungle
(usually just a little more)
ancient burrow
quick question, can i get perseus from the event banner? 
or is she ONLY accessible from the special banner
trim sparrow
Raff want a cl or dd secondary?
tame jungle
CL
timid beacon
I think the event banner? there's other CV/Ls in there
stark quiver
quick question, can i get perseus from the event banner? <:Thinkpitz:47079561424...
no
tame jungle
quick question, can i get perseus from the event banner? <:Thinkpitz:47079561424...
perseus is in the special pool, that means that she'll also be in the pool for events that use the special pool as a base
viscid swift
implac was special based no?
soft raft
quick question, can i get perseus from the event banner? <:Thinkpitz:47079561424...
Either Special banner or a event banner that has majority Special pool hulltypes
tho honestly she's not really worth specifically going for when Unicornr retro is a thing
stark quiver
ouh i read it as this banner
ancient burrow
soft raft
2 CV/1BB/1 CL moment
stark quiver
wait we dont even have a banner rn 
rustic adder
Why not 10-1
pretty sure 10-1 is less exp/oil than 11-1, but i dont remember the chart
tame jungle
i'd be pretty impressed if you were able to pull on an event banner right now
timid beacon
wait we dont even have a banner rn <:kekedespair:1136953860905250896>
tomorrow's event banner
stark quiver
speaking of which, will the implac banner be updated with the current special pool
stark quiver
aql pulling party ig
tame jungle
stark quiver
i need my 41 rld
tame jungle
i need my aquila in general
viscid swift
i need my 41 rld
i predict you will have to wait until the CN Anni at least
stark quiver
bet
soft raft
polar lion
I need moar new CVs..
stark quiver
on everyones soul but mine, ill get aql during implac rerun, just wait....
hushed sorrel
i will wait forever but i will never knew if you did get her or not :o
timid beacon
I went for broke when both Joffre and Albion were added to perma pools
steady rain
is name change ingame possible?
timid beacon
yup, it's a paid item in the shop
eager mulch
special pool?
timid beacon
eager mulch
implac rerun will be special pool?
forest palm
More than likely
eager mulch
amagi-chan less
glossy granite
Just pls save cubes until tomorrow ok
timid beacon
the event pool, but the event pool is the event-limited ships plus the ships from a couple other pools
so that's what folks were asking before - what other ships are available in the event pool starting tomorrow
robust jasper
Is there a 1 shot fleet for hornet meta?
stark quiver
4 la9 gaming
rigid onyx
for most people it's probably 3 salvo BB + helena
vale spindle
Revelations of Dust Rerun
Links
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- Ship Evaluations: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Revelations_of_Dust
Ships
UR CV Implacable (1.2% - 200 Build Pity)
SR CL Scylla (2%)
SR BB Royal Oak (0.5% - also available as map drop B3/D3 & shop exchange)
Elite CV Argus (2.5%)
Elite DD Hero (Event Point Accumulation Reward)
Shop Priority
- Royal Oak (1 copy if you didn't get her from build/drop)
- Fairey Firefly (Dive Bomber; worse than SB2C Helldiver so you can postpone if you want)
- Build Tickets (can buy earlier if needed)
- Cognitive Arrays / Chips
- DR5 prints
- Oil/Coins/SR Cat boxes/purple plates/etc. (depends on your need)
- Rest of the shop.
Note: If you're a new player, consider buying T4 tech boxes before everything else, it helps speed up your game progress by acquiring new equipment early.
FAQ
Oil Cap?
Oil Cap is on All D Stages , and is 35 mob, 47 boss, 16 sub. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.
Farming Strategy?
Run D3 > D1 with full fleets repeatedly. If unable to do D1, use a 1:1 fleet on C2 > B3 > highest stage possible. Doing the daily x5 or x3 clears is also viable.
Where to find Build Tickets?
Daily Login, Daily Missions, Event Shop, Point Milestone. There are 44 acquirable build tickets.
Virtual Tower War Archives?
There is nothing of note. The event ships got added to the permanent pool like normal. Ignore the archive stages and move on.
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<@&472236072743600148> pin plz thank 
you can also clean up some of the older pins too
timid beacon
wouldn't this be better in #event-faq ?
stark quiver
nobody goes there
vale spindle
will mods do an event faq for a week long event
stark quiver
i discovered i cant one shot lvl 14 hornet, time to bring the 4 shot fleet
glossy granite
Yoo samheart
stark quiver
its easier to tell ppl to check pinz in this channel when they ask
glossy granite
~~will mods do an event faq for a week long event~~
I really appreciate your work on those community guides, without you i would be running a South Dakota, North carolina with Alabama main
Seriously tho tysm
little venture
eager mulch
mods doing event faq is a once in a lifetime event
vale spindle
once chatgpt gets good enough and its not expensive to api call it, we can then automate it to make it easy for everyone involved 
anyways i did it early cause i might be busy later tonight and that should be everything anyways
rigid onyx
just get someone with a spare 3090 to run deepseek locally or something
stark quiver
jimmy
eager mulch
jimmussy
slow fox
Jimmy 
lime raptor
I only have 2 LA9, no idea how lucky you gotta be to get 4 by now.
sweet delta
Average luck if you know how to research and did do research
lime raptor
Above average luck
slow fox
I have 0 LA9
eager mulch
I have 0 LA9
I can lend you my LA9
elfin hollow
How to do it?
thorny plume
how to get more points to unlock?
glossy granite
How to do it?
By getting 10 more Sakura empire/Japanese ships to your collection but pls ignore it for now
weary gust
How to do it?
eternal moth
how to get more points to unlock?
Reading the requirements explains the requirements
sweet delta
What's my Library?
elfin hollow
By getting 10 more Sakura empire/Japanese ships to your collection but pls ignor...
Oh, so I misunderstood
glossy granite
Oh, so I misunderstood
Yea but dont think too much about research, you shouldnt prioritize that at your lvl
molten solstice
Are meta ships good for opsi?
iron lily
is there a site that let's me quickly figure out which gun should go on which ship? I got my first gold BB gun, but the tier list doesn't list it for pennsylvania who is my only BB right now so I wanna look up if the gun is any good on another character?
elfin hollow
Yea but dont think too much about research, you shouldnt prioritize that at your...
Okay, I would like to know though
weary gust
Any ships work for general opsi grinding tbh
thorny plume
Okay, I would like to know though
pulling 1st time ships mlb them to 120 will give you points
weary gust
is there a site that let's me quickly figure out which gun should go on which sh...
If it's not on ectl for Penn it's probably garbage.
molten solstice
Any ships work for general opsi grinding tbh
Are meta ships good in general?because a friend of mine is saying that they are mid
eternal moth
Okay, I would like to know though
You need 20 unique Japanese vanguard (front line) ships
elfin hollow
You need 20 unique Japanese vanguard (front line) ships
I don't have to use it in fleet?
weary gust
Are meta ships good in general?because a friend of mine is saying that they are ...
The elites are all bad. The SR ones are anywhere from ehh to good.
glossy granite
Okay, I would like to know though
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#fleet_technology also you should do ''Research projects''
molten solstice
Is the hornet one worth grinding for?
weary gust
No one has her yet.
forest palm
she gives hit so by default, yes
iron lily
If it's not on ectl for Penn it's probably garbage.
so if its not in any of these you say, or what you mean with ectl
weary gust
so if its not in any of these you say, or what you mean with ectl
If the gold gun you got was any of these three it's garbo. Especially the last one.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Quadruple_356mm_(BL_14"_Mk_VII)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_381mm_(Model_1934)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(BL_16"_Mk_I)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0
eternal moth
Just read this to find if gear is good. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
forest palm
glossy granite
Also where are my northern parliament enjoyers, are y'all extinct
iron lily
Just read this to find if gear is good. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equip...
that is what I have open on my second screen, but i don't wanna have to look for the image of a gun in a massive imgur, I just wanna type in the name and get an answer 😦
glossy granite
<#528197562998718474>
oops mb
iron lily
I guess the spreadsheet kind of does that job
So if its not listed on the spreadsheet its garbo?
eternal moth
Pretty much, yeah. The imgur is also separated into categories; if you want to know if a battleship gun is good, look at the BB/BC section
These are pretty much the only ones you need to worry about, for example
iron lily
Pretty much, yeah. The imgur is also separated into categories; if you want to k...
I know, it's still a massive as picture xD
I'll just use the spreadsheet so I can at least seach for the name 🙂
jaunty vault
isn't that outdated
iron lily
my main problem with that is that it's hard to figure out which ones I should use until I get anything that is listed there, that's why I asked for a more in depth ranking
eternal moth
If the gear you have isn't on there you aren't far enough where it really matters.
thorny plume
different content requires diff guns. General mobing you can get away with general use, if you dont want to sweat the details then go by general use for pickign weapons
iron lily
aight, sounds good. If I get garbage, do I dissassemble or is there a point in saving it for a system that unlocks later? I'm level 35 if that matters
eternal moth
Disassembling is fine
jaunty vault
don't disassemble UR weapons not in there
heck don't scrap even gold gear before you ask in here if it's good or bad
iron lily
well it was one of the 3 "definitely garbo" weapons linked above, so I scrapped it 😄
Triple 406mm (BL 16" Mk I)
sharp socket
oneshot 14 not possible for me, any comp ideas for oneshot if no nakhi, 1x la9
eternal moth
Try replacing Amagi with Yorkie?
hollow gust
doesnt stigma have a proor people comp
jaunty vault
eternal moth
"For accounts without nakhi/soyuz, you can glhf"
jaunty vault
sharp socket
alright no oneshot for me this time, back to eepy
eternal moth
I've been noticing a lot of game stopping with LDPlayer and Win 11, especially if the emulator isn't the active window, anyone know if this is because of LDPlayer or Windows?
jaunty vault
ldplayer user, don't think it's the former
eternal moth
God I hate Win11
Are there any emulators NOT owned by extremely anti-consumer companies? Mumu being owned by NetEase doesn't fill me with any more confidence than LDPlayer does.
sharp socket
does sirius or kaza do more against med
jaunty vault
kaza
nimble knoll
whole stump
confused on if i should finish retrofitting portland or spend them on saint loius? is she even good?
nimble knoll
confused on if i should finish retrofitting portland or spend them on saint loiu...
Can you develop roon?
stark quiver
Are there any emulators NOT owned by extremely anti-consumer companies? Mumu bei...
i mean i hate this option, but uh now.gg browser is a thing
nimble knoll
Imo, Roon would be better
whole stump
would she be on my team?
stark quiver
probably not
whole stump
so i know the ships in later series are pretty good do i even need to finish constructing the earlier ones?
hollow gust
roon ibuki and saint will very likely be used
nimble knoll
Imo, Just keep retrofitting Portland, You would need to spend a lot of coins to make saint Louis dev30 anyways, and you can get the retrofit materials later for her
hollow gust
lvl 14 hornet still my bitch , lets go
whole stump
okok will do
soon tho i'ma need a 2nd fleet so thats why i was thinking about finishing saint louis but
nimble knoll
What chapter are you in?
soft raft
are you at W9 yet?
If not, dont bother too much on a 2nd fleet, much less putting more focus on research ships
eternal moth
Just do 9-1
nimble knoll
Try to overlevel your ships at 9-1
whole stump
oh ok, i think it was sushigummy that said the war archives maps are a lot more oil efficient is the xp better 9-1?
eternal moth
WA is better if you CAN'T get to chapter 9]
whole stump
mmm okay, i think i'll start grinding that after event is over
nimble knoll
Would a lvl 100 kaza be gud to replace my lvl 120 Laffey, To fight against A lvl 14 Meta Horni
eternal moth
It really depends on the rest of the fleet, but I assume she'd just die
nimble knoll
Guh
nimble knoll
It really depends on the rest of the fleet, but I assume she'd just die
Da others
eternal moth
Why are you tanking with Sandy?
nimble knoll
People said she's better than portland, With her aug
stark quiver
whos the people
weary gust
People said she's better than portland, With her aug
At damage yes, not as a tank.
viscid swift
in this context I'd say yeah
stark quiver
because that fleet would literally explode w/o an actual tank
viscid swift
would it? Hornet META's vanguard pressure isn't that high from what I've scene
stark quiver
lets test and see
hollow gust
Fritzy
nimble knoll
whos the people
I forgor
viscid swift
also, praise our glorious leader mebot
dreamy blade
sandy is quite tanky if there are planes to shoot
slow fox
Also +5 levels
south sequoia
san diego retrofit out tank san fran front, my goat san fran washed
south sequoia
Fritzy <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
is this lvl 15?
sharp socket
was portland not 125 in your sheet mebot
timid beacon
isn't San Fran ideally middle of off-tank anyways, for her skills?
hollow gust
is this lvl 15?
lvl15 doesnt exist yet
south sequoia
oh
south sequoia
isn't San Fran ideally middle of off-tank anyways, for her skills?
you place her depending on what your vanguard needs
buoyant mauve
How is kearsarge?
hollow gust
overkilled the fuck out of it, so should be fine
timid beacon
yeah but she's not a tank, so out-tanking her isn't even a question
hollow gust
How is kearsarge?
very good, but hard to use
south sequoia
shes good at tanking shes good at dps and she heals
you just decide what you need at the moment and she fulfills that
what
sanfran is a tank
buoyant mauve
very good, but hard to use
Wdym hard to use 👁️
dreamy blade
being >= 100% on mebot sheet means they are a tank 
slow fox
was portland not 125 in your sheet mebot <:NimiWat:771507345335123970>
The fleet posted above had San DIego 125 and Helena Laffey 120
timid beacon
I guess, but she's like... ideally positioned for mid or off-tank, with a dedicated tank
there are waaaay better dedicated tanks
south sequoia
there are waaaay better dedicated tanks
she was one of the best tanks for her time
timid beacon
2021
hollow gust
shes still a tank lmao, having better tanks doesnt invalidate that
south sequoia
yes
and also placing her anywhere beside front makes her lose her tanking capabilities
thats her gimmick
hollow gust
i have a fantastic augmentt idea now :)
slow fox
I kinda like San Franhealsco
dreamy blade
only kinda like and not love, bad tank confirmed
south sequoia
I might get cooked for this but I honestly prefer just saving the materials to retrofit helena for sandy instead
forest palm
that's a perfectly normal take, retro'ing Helena does fuck all early, and even later on you don't need what her retro offers past some tankiness
whole stump
sandy who
timid beacon
improved radar scan plus EVA boost to the off-tank, that's her entire kit improved
soft raft
if anything, you retro Helena so she can use SG Radar in conjuction with HSFCR
south sequoia
San diego
forest palm
equally Sandy's UE is already a solid power boost to her that you could also delay her retro 
hollow gust
if anything, you retro Helena so she can use SG Radar in conjuction with HSFCR
Just don't use hsfcr early
whole stump
should i try pulling her in requisition?
forest palm
I'd like to know how an early to mid game player got their hands on an HSFCR
whole stump
whats hsfcr?
forest palm
an end game BB tool
wet badge
Fdg + musashi + raff or nj + musashi + raff
hollow gust
forest palm
Fdg + musashi + raff or nj + musashi + raff
for what?
forest palm
again for what boss
hollow gust
You will generally perform better with raff instead of FdG
wet badge
again for what boss
Campaign
wet badge
W14
forest palm
neither of those fleets are working in 15
hollow gust
Triple BB is asking to get murdered
timid beacon
you're gonna need a solid CV to drop some damage
hollow gust
It's not the damage that's the problem anyway
wet badge
Where are your CVs
Amagi fs5 hak yk2 and fritz
stark quiver
screen clear is gone
hollow gust
Just use Fritz and Amagi , now I wonder what tf you are running for mob
timid beacon
got Chkalov?
wet badge
No
timid beacon
she's a good option for 14
hollow gust
But he has** UR CVs **
timid beacon
yes, he does
strong tartan
what ships give bb/bc acc at 120
buoyant mauve
How's agir? Is she good
hollow gust
what ships give bb/bc acc at 120
forest palm
forest palm
How's agir? Is she good
one of the best tanks you can get
thorny plume
whats consider low AA for a ship
slow fox
AA sheet mentioned
viscid swift
well that brings up the question of what do we even consider average AA
slow fox
P-Portland?
viscid swift
I was thinking something like Cleveland or Helena
timid beacon
or the new kitty AA
undone plover
yeah but that is for later 
timid beacon
has anyone called it the cAAt yet? lol
viscid swift
not everyone can be rich and have 6
also I just prefer not to, just call it the Twin 76mm Mk37 or something along those lines
timid beacon
oh just had suggested it because it'd be on that guide
slow fox
I just call it new UR AA
viscid swift
which one
thorny plume
im 2 prints from my first stag
timid beacon
not the old one 😛
viscid swift
yeah but what I was getting at is that not everyone will be intimate with which one is which
because very few of us bother to remember dates and such....
timid beacon
if someone's at the level where they're considering UR equipment, it's likely they'd know tbh
viscid swift
not particularly
sharp socket
an end game BB tool <:ShiWoke:1023947351414558750>
hsfcr does more than that lol, it gives hit and fp and good for BBs in campaign
viscid swift
because when a piece of gear was added isn't terribly relevant for anything
timid beacon
eagle ur aa in that case, vs iris ur aa
slow fox
I will mark down the date they put down URudder
sharp socket
the hit is the main thing, timing stagger also helps in campaign but not the main reason to use it
also hsfcr prints drop from research, i got like 3 of them by the time i hit 14
forest palm
hsfcr does more than that lol, it gives hit and fp and good for BBs in campaign
does not change what I said lol
thorny plume
proto store wont hav estag prints huh, going to have to luck draw on my researches?
viscid swift
pretty much
thorny plume
hmm. oh i have enough to make my first hazemeyer
sharp socket
does not change what I said lol
it is an endgame BB tool but its also more than that
thorny plume
sorry if i caused a fuss
sharp socket
calling its use for endgame is just wrong when its stats are very useful for campaign and you pick the lowest use for it to tell a new player what it does
timid beacon
last part of campaign is part of 'endgame'
forest palm
end game consistent of 14 + 15, ops loops, meta, CM...what else, no ya end game tool
sharp socket
anyway if he's still around the hsfcr is good to use on BBs for campaign because it gives hit and fp
timid beacon
no one's arguing not to use it in campaign
sharp socket
a more appropriate response would be that its usable in alot of things and can just stay on your BBs constantly
forest palm
even then an early to mid game player is not going to have an HSFCR
timid beacon
certainly not enough to even fill a fleet's worth of BBs
hybrid pelican
How much crit chance does hit and luck give?
full nacelle
Do high efficiency double XP too or just items?
sharp socket
if their research goes at a normal pace they should get hsfcr around the time they get their staags
slow fox
How much crit chance does hit and luck give?
Per 1 LCK is 0.02% additional chance of crit
timid beacon
staags are also endgame building blocks
forest palm
if their research goes at a normal pace they should get hsfcr around the time th...
there's no dedicated source for HSFCR, so it's very RNG to get 1 print, the only thing going there is that it's in every Research pool
sharp socket
there's no dedicated source for HSFCR, so it's very RNG to get 1 print, the only...
staag is also rng, and comes in every research pool, so staag and hsfcr are acquired about the same time
forest palm
I don't care about STAAG, I didn't bring that into this
hybrid pelican
Per 1 LCK is 0.02% additional chance of crit
and hit stat?
timid beacon
these things are called 'endgame' because they can be critical to endgame (including end-campaign) fleetbuilding. up until w14, you can get away with lots of subpar options
slow fox
and hit stat?
Per 1 HIT is roughly 1/2250 ~ 0.04% additional chance of crit
full nacelle
Yes also XP or yes just items?
viscid swift
I wouldn't lump W14 in there
timid beacon
of course you can use them as soon as you get them, but they're important in endgame
viscid swift
nore even W13 really
hybrid pelican
Per 1 HIT is roughly 1/2250 ~ 0.04% additional chance of crit
ty very much
timid beacon
13 can be a big turning point too, yeah
sharp socket
the difference between newbie and endgame is quite wide
forest palm
not really...
sinful escarp
its just time spent on the game tbh
polar lion
What is considered endgame?
timid beacon
time spent, but also how far you've got in that time
viscid swift
depends on your own definition really
forest palm
I think 13 onward at this point
sharp socket
i consider endgame to be w15 and only that
viscid swift
I wouldn't dare I say even call W15 end game
sinful escarp
120 tech farming 
timid beacon
15 is definitely endgame
forest palm
end game definitely is just
- 13+
- Ops Loops
- Meta
- CM
- Tech Grinding
viscid swift
like I said, everyone's definition differs
timid beacon
13 and 14, they're at least a ramp up in challenge/planning if not considered endgame
viscid swift
I would define end game as being done with all relevant content in the game and just grinding tech
timid beacon
that's post-game XD
sharp socket
oneshot meta, onestrike harbiter are concepts made up for longtime players to show off and thus i dont consider them endgame
slow fox
Endgame is more than 60 Rudders
sharp socket
so only w15 is endgame to me
viscid swift
but I have more than that
slow fox
Welcome to the endgame
forest palm
I'm just running out of ships to skill level, and grind to 120
viscid swift
oh yeah mebot, just a random popcorn thought, did you ever look into how vanguard positions(main tank, middle, off tank) affect eHP?
hybrid pelican
what level is a lvl 15 meta boss ?
slow fox
oh yeah mebot, just a random popcorn thought, did you ever look into how vanguar...
I haven't LOOKED at it. I only have the 3/6 1/6 2/6 assumption.
viscid swift
what level is a lvl 15 meta boss ?
126 or 128 irrc
slow fox
Do you want me to run some tests