gameplay-help

[tame jungle]

12k oil is roughly 4x 12-4 which gives nearly double coins and more xp also

the oil's also better spent getting to 12-4 rather than pissing it down the drain on these commissions if you're not there yet

[craggy hedge]

Early player are likely to sorties w9 before gotten comfortable to process to w12, may want to spend oil wisely

[tame jungle]

and that still doesn't include the 1.2k oil comms

[elfin hollow]

Okay I'll give up because they want 1200 and I have 4.5k

[craggy hedge]

Don't do it, save it on sorties rather than commissions

[full drum]

i guess the submarine help is shit and useless

[blissful hamlet]

Anything new next maint?

[tame jungle]

#game-news

[craggy hedge]

Not entirely

[plain saffron]

implac rerun and virtual tower perm

[plain saffron]

it's shit if your subs is shit

[blissful hamlet]

Nothing new I see

[plain saffron]

wait for actual patch notes

[full drum]

maybe because its the first mission and its quite underleveled

[blissful hamlet]

Something new :god:

[tame jungle]

if you're new don't bother with subs

[plain saffron]

wait i'm dumb Jp patch notes alraey up

[elfin hollow]

I'm going to do 7-2

[plain saffron]

yeah nothing new other than rework for 3 skins to fit new UI

and USS event next next maint

[tame jungle]

oh boy more USS ships!

[blissful hamlet]

Who get rework?

I hope it's janus

[plain saffron]

not janus

[blissful hamlet]

Who?

[plain saffron]

GTL
Taiho "Shirahama Daydream" (with Live 2D)
Umikaze "Baby steps"
Shimanto "Hot Dragon God"

[blissful hamlet]

No janus

[full drum]

whats the best formation to shoot these exploding boats?

[plain saffron]

BB using CL gun, if 1 BB in main fleet, put at middle

[spiral fjord]

What should I prioritise for w14?

[timid forum]

can't clear 10-1, suicide boats on boss are painful, do i need better weapons or just unit levels?
6th unit is laffey

[atomic abyss]

The correct ones rather than the best ones

Also more levels

[worldly pewter]

how to intercept subs and ramming boats

[honest stirrup]

The first one being basically purple depth charge and hedgehog on mob fleet and call it a day

[atomic abyss]

/w15 see here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[atomic abyss]

W15 comps work for w14

[hallow spoke]

i think i should copy that team

[worldly pewter]

use the mk6 on nelson and retro her

[nimble knoll]

Replace my Portland For Roon and Make Port Replace Laffey, Or Does Laffey Stay? (My roon is only lvl 70 and at dev25)

[wind hazel]

i would exp book a bit more than 70

[nimble knoll]

Up to wat?

[wind hazel]

try 80 and see if she survives, you have 2 healer so probably ok

i'd replace helena and laffey altogether

start raising your other ships, no point keeping them. even yk2

[tame jungle]

what's current max lv for hornet meta fight?

[wind hazel]

should be 12

[nimble knoll]

???

[tame jungle]

ok damn i already missed 1 day then LOL

[wind hazel]

raise them

unless that 23 is already exp capped to 120

[nimble knoll]

Gotcha

[timid forum]

by mk6 u mean main gun on nelson?
i'll need like 1-2 weeks of farm to retrofit her, does she really worth it?

[nimble knoll]

I also made roons Aug, She's going to be much tankier with it right?

[worldly pewter]

did u 3☆ the x-3 maps in hard mode ?

[turbid marsh]

roon aug is damage increase, not tankiness increase

[nimble knoll]

Oh

[timid forum]

i meant blue and purple retrofit blueprints
and again, nelson retrofit is really that good to farm her? wont she be replaced by hood for example?

[wind hazel]

nelson retro good

[worldly pewter]

if u have raised nelson then it is worth to finish
also do u have another BB or BC ?

[timid forum]

only 1 fleet raised
don't know, when to start the second one, since i don't have good options (imo)
what do i even focus on at this stage of the game

i can get hood as a reward or in next month medal shop

[worldly pewter]

keep 1 fleeting until w12

if u are in a position to start doing the shipyard missions u can do it

[eternal moth]

W12 is a little late IMO. I did it until w10

[timid forum]

i can get saint louis rn

[eternal moth]

Instead of Saint Louis, can you research Monarch or Izumo?

[timid forum]

monarch is doable with my fleet
izumo isn't for exp

[eternal moth]

Izumo would be a really good option since she's gotten her unique augment, making her a lot better.

But Monarch is great for a boss fleet.

[timid forum]

i know, but exp mission is impossible for me, either build 2 fleet just to farm for her

[eternal moth]

BTW, Nelson and Hood are about equal in power level, and since you already have Nelson at 110+ just use her.

[timid forum]

as i said, i don't understand what to focus on

[soft raft]

dont bother with a 2nd fleet until at earliest W9
Which you look nowhere close to getting to rn

[eternal moth]

He's on chapter 10

[timid forum]

i'm on 10

struggling with suicide boats

[iron lily]

which skills, other than starter ship for the mission should I level first? Gut tells me the Unicorn healing skill, yes? Also should I level the other unicorn skill?

[eternal moth]

What secondary gun do you have on Nelson?

[soft raft]

most of the time you raise all the skills of a ship you're using

Unless it's portland in which case you dont really get much out of levelling up her skills

[worldly pewter]

most likely he is running massive gear issues

[soft raft]

Have you tried fire extinguishers on Nelson and Laffey?

[eternal moth]

That should be ok. Just level that secondary gun to 10 and retrofit Nelson ASAP

[iron lily]

got it and should I just use the highest level book available, or are the rainbow ones used for something down the line and should be saved?=

[timid beacon]

suicide boats are killed pretty quickly either with fast-firing vanguard (DDs, or CLs with DD guns), or backline BBs/BCs. double CV can be tough with suicide boats

[worldly pewter]

@timid forum can u show what u have as planes ?

[soft raft]

I'd spam the gold ones since you can get more of them (And you can merge blue -> purple -> gold)

Rainbow ones I honestly dont really use unless it's a UR I want to raise asap and/or I'm about to go to sleep

[worldly pewter]

the planes are correct but missing a lot of enhancing

[timid forum]

i thought since they are transitional they don't worth higher upgrades
when what is the target, +10?

[timid beacon]

getting your transitional gear to 10 is always nice

it's the 11+ that you're using the more expensive resources, and better saved for final gear options

[wind hazel]

can you open more ironblood or ijn t4 tech boxes? would be nice to get better aux gun for Nelson

[eternal moth]

All of those planes are worth taking to +10, as they're good enough, except MAYBE the barracudas. That said, even the barracudas are pretty good

Like, I'd have no issues making all of those +10 on my alt

[timid forum]

don't have any left

[timid beacon]

but it's still suicide boats that are the issue, right?

[timid forum]

yeah, that straight line of them on boss stage

[worldly pewter]

his gear is underleveled so much even the main guns

and yeah remove raff gun for an mk6 and make it 10 if u didn't yet

[timid forum]

this one?

[timid beacon]

so for Nelson, replacing the secondary gun will help. a lot of the gun options on this list note their usefulness against bomb boats: https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=nelson

then a fast-firing vanguard can really take the heat off. maybe a Dido-class, which tends to mesh well with other Royal Navy ships anyways

[timid forum]

i checked that list, and equipped the best i had

[timid beacon]

suicide boats will often be a bit trickier to handle whe you're running double-carrier in the backline. so your vanguard has to be set up to take on more of the heat

[eternal moth]

He has Helena and Laffey, which should be enough

[timid beacon]

definitely worth working towards those guns. it really helps

[timid beacon]

oh Laffey with that too, yeah that should really help

[timid forum]

laffey isn't retrofit yet

i'm playing for a week an got only uni for now

[timid beacon]

she still has fast-firing DD guns, which help

even as non-retrofit, it's a good option

ch10 doesn't need to be peak everything yet, but it's definitely a bit of a first checkpoint in building fleets to meet the need

so even if you feel you can't beat it right away, it's totally ok to take your time and build up towards it

[eternal moth]

Spend some time farming XP on 9-1 if you're having issues

[iron lily]

for early game, should I open all purple gear boxes, or should I try to promote them to gold?

[eternal moth]

You can't promote to gold

Purple is as high as they build to

[timid beacon]

some research projects use purple though, so it's worth having a bit of a stock to use there

[iron lily]

oh, that makes it easier 😄

[wind hazel]

dont do those researches

[eternal moth]

In general you shouldn't be taking the purple box research though

[timid beacon]

they're sub-optimal for sure, but that's more end-game optimization

[wind hazel]

no it's just bad from start to finish

[worldly pewter]

gear box research is a must avoid

[timid beacon]

sometimes you don't have the resources to do anything else earlier in the game

but big agree, avoid if there's anything else you can do

[worldly pewter]

yeah early game there are bad researches that someone can do
gear boxes isn't one of them

[plain saffron]

do others that's not the tech boxes one then

[timid beacon]

yeah if there are other options, like I said, agree

[wind hazel]

ngl i might even take C if i had to pick as a new player lol

[plain saffron]

isn't gear boxes more important for new player to open rather than used research anyway

[wind hazel]

they are indeed

[timid forum]

stick to 1 fleet till chapter 12
enhance gear to level 10
retrofit nelson first
level ships
and what to focus in shipyard? (can get louis right now, or start to research monarch with the ships i have. izumo is better but i don't have sakura ships in fleet to do exp missions)

[eternal moth]

Go for Monarch since you're already using Nelson

[timid beacon]

Saint Louis is really nice for light armour stuff, especially with her new augment. but yeah Monarch is likely a solid bet given what you're working with

[eternal moth]

Nelson and Uni should be plenty to be able to throw a random HMS backline in and run 9-1 for CDC 1 and 2

[timid beacon]

running both Monarch and Nelson will give better coverage from the backline against the suicide boats you're having trouble with too

[wind hazel]

ngl but monarch route is a long one

-7days to unlock, and -1month+ to coin

[soft raft]

Yeah
Don't forget you need to get Monarch D30 as well, not just getting her

[fast estuary]

Can someone explain me the shipyard

[woven star]

FdG, UvH, Doria meta can be good against suicide ship

[cobalt rapids]

i would pick monarch from pr1 last

[eager mulch]

[timid forum]

who do i listen when?

[woven star]

Doria M maybe will be weaker then 2 other UR in late chapters

[wind hazel]

me

i never lie ( i do sometimes)

[ivory pawn]

You choose a ship to build, you do the tasks on the right to build it, then you enhance them with blueprints from Research. Some older ships have the option to buy blueprints with coins.

[timid beacon]

everyone's gonna have a slightly different approach, but basically just take what folks say and run with what works for you, based on what you have and want

[sweet delta]

augment overdue for half year already

[fast estuary]

Can i build the Ship when i Finish the develop

[ivory pawn]

You can immediately obtain the ship when you finish all the tasks on the right.

[clear harbor]

How much more difficult are hard mode stages in Campaign compared to their normal counter parts?

[ivory pawn]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research goes into the Shipyard in a bit more detail, including recommended priorities.

[clear harbor]

Is there an entry on the wiki or something for common enemy ship levels?

[timid beacon]

Renown and QE could be good stopgap options too, seeing as if you want to go for Monarch you're grinding out your Royal backline XP anyways. and again, extra suicide boat coverage

[fast estuary]

Which one of The ships are the best one

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 6x

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_6

[woven star]

Do as higher as you can. The higher level the more rare parts

[tame jungle]

there will be a certain highly valuable royal navy aircraft carrier rerunning in a couple days that would contribute to your royal navy PR grind...

[timid beacon]

yaaaaaas

can't wait to finally get her. waiting on her for finally challenging ch15

[clear harbor]

This is perfect!

[clear harbor]

Yeah! I just didn't want to start a hard mode stage and get my butt kicked. Haha.

[rigid onyx]

Usually ~10-15 levels above, or about 1 chapter ahead for hard mode

1-2 chapters ahead in terms of levels

[woven star]

Not sure but it's like +1 level of hardness for chapter. Hard 12 like chapter 13

[clear harbor]

Oh curses...I can't do W6 hard mode stuff. I need a second CV

[ivory pawn]

Check out https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research, has a priority list.
Odds are you’ll only be able to start St Louis first, and you might as well. Otherwise, best to work towards Friederich de Grosse and Anchorage in PR2 and PR4 respectively.

[timid beacon]

Saint Louis is bae, and I will not accept slander XD

but she's a really nice option regardless

[rigid onyx]

the goal for pr researching is to rush ancho, fdg, and agir usually

so focusing a bit on pr1 kms ships like roon isnt the worst to get faction tech up

[woven star]

You should know only one major tip: you can skip boss kill and left hard key for second star (killing some amount of enemies). But parts drop after boss

[clear harbor]

With limited attemps per day, is it worth trying to three star Hard Mode stages?

[woven star]

No sure. I still don't have roon but with fdg and agir. IB ships not so rare at least for now

[timid beacon]

over time yeah

the rewards are usually good, especially in the later ones that drop cog stuff

[rigid onyx]

If you need the three star rewards you can

1. Clear all the mob ships
2. Exit the attempt without killing boss

to get the mob kill requirements for 3*

doing it this way doesn't consume an attempt

or rather, they only track clears not attempts

[woven star]

Who remember newbie tips command for chaper hard mode? Or it was in general tips

[clear harbor]

Oh, that's briliant. Thank you.

[worldly pewter]

saint louis was the first ship i develop in that game mechanic and for some reason she gave me a hard time trying to use her as a mob tank

[timid beacon]

she's an ok-ish tank, really more of a damage dealer

[woven star]

I can add few more

1. You will kill all enemies and boss. It will be 1st and 3rd star.
2. Then you can do 2nd star by killing all enemies except boss. Just leave map before his fight. And save 1 key

[timid beacon]

reliable off-tank is how I've always used her

her class sister Brennus is the better mob tank

[clear harbor]

Got it!

[soft raft]

1. He has none of those 3
2. Even if he did, he sure as hell wouldnt have them ready at all to use

[normal cedar]

losing at 4-4 boss even after grind 4-3 for a long time
only thing I can think of is I run out of ammo for boss, so its at 50% damage

[soft raft]

limit break your ships

[viscid swift]

well limit breaking your ships more would help, as well as improving their gear/enhancing it

[little tree]

Limit break

[worldly pewter]

he is using yamashiro meta

[atomic abyss]

it's jut lack of limit breaks
also drop yama meta, she wont help you at all since you cant limit break her

[normal cedar]

But I won't be able to mlb them, is that fine? I heard people say don't limit break till you can mlb since it increases cost or something...

[soft raft]

that's for URs
not SR and below

[viscid swift]

ignore that advice for non URs

[atomic abyss]

there is litle point in saving oil if you cant clear things anyways

[woven star]

Unfortunately. DoriaM is a real good ship

[normal cedar]

Any elite/ rare alternative? I used to use Shouhou before, she was even worse than yashiro meta...

[worldly pewter]

meta ships are hard to use for mew players

[atomic abyss]

saratoga would be best

[tame jungle]

doria meta with no skills won't be good

[atomic abyss]

ark royal can work too

[worldly pewter]

skills as any other ship and enhancement for the meta ship are crucial

[normal cedar]

I have saratoga, I will try to use her then. Thanks!

[woven star]

There was event. It's almost easiest way to get her. Especially when other some meta not so useful

[bleak nymph]

What’s consensus on Rafaello?

[soft raft]

that's not what he means
he's talking about the process of raising them

[viscid swift]

top 2 mobbing BB

[atomic abyss]

very good, as with all gacha URs
but not the top in any 1 area

[soft raft]

Musashi still beats Rafaello for mobbing right

[worldly pewter]

she has a job that no other ship can replicate though

[woven star]

Enchanting the biggest problem. Otherwise just use her in fleet and she will rise skills level. But yeah it's a long process

[atomic abyss]

exactly, the raising process is much SLOWER than a regular ship

[woven star]

Btw Kasumi M was the best ship in my newbie fleet. But she was from cruise mission so no problem with mlb her

[atomic abyss]

by the time you get her mlb and max skill, you would have at least nelson retro

[timid forum]

i had a choice of either getting event weapon or unit and was recommended to get weapon

[atomic abyss]

because the weapon is better

[sweet delta]

You got the right recommendation

[soft raft]

yeah cuz the weapon is alot better than a BB that will most likely end up being tech fodder

[atomic abyss]

there are many better than the meta

[timid beacon]

the new UR SAP gun?

[woven star]

Imo Doria better then Nelson. But it's just a my pint

[atomic abyss]

that's not even the issue

how long would it take to get a max doria

[timid forum]

also, do i spend oil on meta dossier attemps or its not worth itfor now

[timid beacon]

yeah new UR SAP gun is really nice. BiS against medium armour

[tame jungle]

you will legit not be able to raise doria meta's skills as a beginner

[woven star]

OK. That was good choice

[sweet delta]

Ignore the pin that tells you to buy the meta ship over a new bis gun

[atomic abyss]

max skill doria would take, maybe a month at least?

[soft raft]

Eh

[storm marlin]

Trying to run some 8-2 for PR EX, and I keep getting this message, Does anyone know what's up with this?

[viscid swift]

your dock is full

also, please don't farm for XP on 8-2

[woven star]

You can't finish it. It's too hard at your level now. Not worth any meta now

[viscid swift]

start pushing to W12 if you aren't already and farm there instead

[timid beacon]

only reason to farm that low is if that's what your highest unlock is

[sweet delta]

With 125s no less

[timid beacon]

but yeah with 125s, you must be higher right?

[storm marlin]

If my dock is full, I usually get the typical notification telling me to expand, sort, or enhance. Not this.

[woven star]

He asking about auto fight for old meta bosses

[atomic abyss]

you get this if your internet decides to crap itself while your dock is full

[soft raft]

yeah I know

[storm marlin]

Thanks m8

[cobalt rapids]

rafa has more vang support and feels better for carrying in 15-1
but i think sushis backline support is still more valuable in lethal and shes the better combi with aql
but i havent tried her in lethal yet

[sweet delta]

I think 10k oil over 25 days is a good deal for jintsuu meta

[woven star]

[sweet delta]

~~I tried raff in lethal, and musashi lost half hp in one battle ~~

[storm marlin]

I'm trying to 100% 12-4, so I'm pretty much there. What's the best world for farming EXP in World 12.

[viscid swift]

I do 12-1 myself

[soft raft]

12-1 or 12-4 are the popular spots

[tame jungle]

there's not much in it but 12-4 and 12-1 are both great options

[woven star]

12-4 the best. Where else you can get so best high tier SSR ship? I'm on half road to mlb second copy of her. She so good that I don't remember her name. Kappa

[timid forum]

i get 50% for attempt so its 28 attemps and 5600 oil to get 1400 or i misscount smth

[sweet delta]

Oh you're not a new player, even better

[soft raft]

Choukai?
she's painfully average at best, why would you raise a 2nd copy? She doesnt even give good fleet tech

[sweet delta]

50 clears at 60 oil (if you do 34% to 49%) per clear would be 3k oil only

[tame jungle]

i think he was joking

[timid forum]

nvm i misscalculated it, it's too much oil actually

[sweet delta]

[woven star]

She become drop so often that I don't know what to do I'm joking. Of course 10 medals is a good price for her. But one copy I mlb from drops. I think it was 3 copies after originally was fully awaking

[timid beacon]

oh, question for folks. are there good ch15 fleet guides that've been updated for the last 6mo-to-year of new ships?

[soft raft]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[timid beacon]

oh nice, very updated thank you!

I'm prepping for 15, building up Nakhimov and waiting to get Implacable with her rerun

and I'm doing possible the silliest thing ever. I'm only using ships from the allies, and no lolis. how the hell I've made it through to a full clear of ch14, small miracle lol

[turbid marsh]

allies?

[timid beacon]

WW2 Allies

[atomic abyss]

allied forces not axis powers

[sweet delta]

but the last 10 months of relevant new ships were all axis

[turbid marsh]

so he is not a z52 shimanto enjoyer

[timid beacon]

it's how I've tended to play WW2-era games, so trying to stick with it in AL too. it's working wildly well

[sweet delta]

Numbah Wan is all you need

[turbid marsh]

yeah, eagles are basically suited for maincampaign XD

[timid beacon]

10 months also include Alsace and Nakhimov, but yeah I'm definitely knee-capping myself

[atomic abyss]

...uhh

[timid beacon]

no dice lol

[turbid marsh]

• royal navy

[atomic abyss]

arent alsace and nakhi both allied

[timid beacon]

yeah I'm only using allied. was replying to a comment about axis ships over the last 10 months

was saying there've been some allied in there too

[atomic abyss]

i mean it's much easier than axis

[turbid marsh]

yeah axis has like no backline XD

[timid beacon]

let's not forget the other restriction I'm putting on myself. no lolis. so guess who hasn't ever used Unicorn? 😄

[atomic abyss]

axis lacks all the best healers, and dont have many options for AA either

even without unicorn, perseus exists, and she's only a tad worse

[timid beacon]

yeah she's nice

[turbid marsh]

lets see, z52, shimanto, and isuzu.... i can't think of many aa carries

eagles took them all

[timid beacon]

Eagles and a couple Royals

[atomic abyss]

if it's possible to clear w15 with ib fleet, it's possible with just axis

just way harder

@sweet delta you cleared w15 with ib fleet without z52 or rumey right

[timid beacon]

oh yeah it's definitely been a harder grind. w14 woudl've been tough if both Mogador and Indiana hadn't come out just in time for my unlocking 14

[turbid marsh]

wait 2 ib fleet ? damn

[cobalt rapids]

ib mob, ib boss, ib support, ib subs

[turbid marsh]

oh lol yeah

[atomic abyss]

even ib support is cursed

[cobalt rapids]

his fleets

[timid beacon]

My 14-4 fleets were:
Mob: Perseus - Monarch - Indiana / Drake - Mogador - Jeanne d'Arc
Boss: Chkalov - New Jersey - Illustrious / Brennus - Plymouth - Pittsburgh

[turbid marsh]

holy thats insane,

and lv 120 ships too, so that has to be manual right?

[timid beacon]

lots of niche options can work, with the right gear, skill syncs, and yeah manual can help sometimes too

[atomic abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHpkWW9OP9g

[turbid marsh]

jesus pretty insane

[timid beacon]

My current fleet plans for ch15 are these. not fully convinced this is what I'm going in with, but it's what I have on paper for now

also need gear upgrades and changes

[cobalt rapids]

what site is that

[timid beacon]

PowerPoint XD

[cobalt rapids]

[atomic abyss]

well that aint working thats for sure

[timid beacon]

hence the annoying little Co-Pilot AI image in the corner

[hollow gust]

Just use uni

[timid beacon]

yeah it definitely need work, serious work. that's where I left it last I sat down and looked at options

[atomic abyss]

why would you place your best carriers in support fleet lol

[timid beacon]

loli, so no lol

[atomic abyss]

esp when there's so many options for support fleet

[hollow gust]

How tf is unicorn a loli

[timid beacon]

agreed, definitely gonna move some options for support fleet up to the active fleets

[atomic abyss]

indomitable, illustrious, illustrious muse can work for support fleet

leaving you implacable, nakhimov, yorktown 2 to play around with

[timid beacon]

loli/child

[plain saffron]

oppai loli is a thing

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think we need to discuss definitions

[atomic abyss]

sandy retro is also missing

as is eld retro

[timid beacon]

yeah that's definitely more along the lines of what I'm thinking

Sandy is a bit childlike for my tastes, so she's out of the running. again, self kneecapping lol

[atomic abyss]

subs well good luck lol
almost all of them are lolis

[wide obsidian]

anyone available to help with opsi fleets?

[timid beacon]

right? that's why Surcouf is the only active SS I have right now

[atomic abyss]

not using sandy will make it near impossible btw

[timid beacon]

oh for sure, it's gonna be tough without her

[sweet delta]

And certainly not with that kind of gear

[slender turtle]

Wouldn’t the new sub and leo work for your sub fleet too?

[timid beacon]

gear need solid work, that's just what I have available right now. been upgrading/changing over the last month or so

[atomic abyss]

this only works cos high tech and high gear

italians would not be allied so no

[timid beacon]

I'm allies-only, so no

[cobalt rapids]

open a thread

[slender turtle]

Ah shit right, yeah the subs are cooked then for u

[atomic abyss]

eld retro is also out

[timid beacon]

lol, yuuuuup

[atomic abyss]

anchorage is near mandatory really

[timid beacon]

the fact I've cleared ch14 with my restrictions is kinda hilarious, but I'm running with it

[atomic abyss]

you'd have no tanks otherwise

cos 14 is way more forgiving

yeah ancho and guam

[timid beacon]

Ancho is definitely in the works. as much as I love New Orleans, she's not gonna cut it

Guam I don't have yet

[atomic abyss]

i dont think you're clearing without guam frankly

[timid beacon]

same

[atomic abyss]

since you're already forsaking sandy and laff2

[timid beacon]

ch15 is definitely a long-term goal with my self-imposed restrictions, and yeah no Guam yet

[atomic abyss]

im guessing no soyuz yet either?

[timid beacon]

no dammit, she's the one UR I wasn't able to get despite being around for it

[wide obsidian]

Ryuketsu Opsi

[slender turtle]

Im assuming that implac is an event i should be going pretty all in for if I dont have her, right?

[atomic abyss]

yes, but do rmb you have the free tickets since rerun

[eternal basalt]

Yes

[iron lily]

hey, started playing yesterday.
Is it normal that the game doesn't track some weekly and daily missions on the first day properly, or is that something that happens in general?
Been supplying over 20k food to my dorm and this thing doesn't move

[eternal basalt]

Did you feed them BEFORE unlocking weeklies?

[slender turtle]

Gotcha, should I probably prio mlb’ing implac over a ship like fritz?

[timid beacon]

aight well gotta run, thanks for the updated w15 info and comments, definitely gonna revisit what I'm taking into that chapter now that Implacable's rerun is coming

[atomic abyss]

well if both are at 0lb yes

[slender turtle]

Ye they are, just figured I would as before i made any mistakes lol thanks!

[iron lily]

I fed them before taking the screenshot less than 10 minutes ago

and I unlocked weeklies a couple hours ago

[slender turtle]

Should I bother fs5’ing Mainz?

[sweet delta]

There are other priorities

[turbid marsh]

after you are done everything else sure, low prior on mainz as a ship anyways

[slender turtle]

My only other options for coining rn are monarch and prinz rupp atm honestly

[white iron]

do Brest heal allys ?

[slender turtle]

For PR at least

[soft raft]

Kinda yeah

[white iron]

Thx

Is her healing good than 5star unicorn girl ?

[soft raft]

no lmao

[atomic abyss]

not even remotely

brest is just a bonus heal, she cant be used as a main healer

[soft raft]

if you read that skill properly, she only has two single-use heals per battle, one for the lowest HP ship and the other for herself

[white iron]

Oh

That’s bad

Then what ship give the best healing in the game ?

[atomic abyss]

unicorn retro

[soft raft]

Unicorn Retrofit

[sweet delta]

zuihou

[white iron]

Okay i already have her retro

[limber oriole]

Is their a limit to how many lvl 125 ships can store/gain surplus xp or something in a fleet?

Im getting xp for a pr ship and im noticing that every time bismark zwei is mvp she gets 0 xp. But fritz is getting xp despite also being level 125. Which is weird? Theres also laffey 2 as well whos also still gaining xp

[atomic abyss]

3 million is the cap

[tame jungle]

3 million

[soft raft]

there's a 3mil XP cap for lvl 125

[novel solstice]

Each ship stops getting XP when 3 mil past the max level.

[atomic abyss]

they still gain exp for research but, honestly it's wasted

[soft raft]

tho the XP gained past that limit still counts for research

[limber oriole]

I must've hit the cap then. Didnt know there was a cap afterwords.

Well they arent getting any xp is the thing

If thats the cap yall are mentioning then Ig she hit it?

[atomic abyss]

you can check if they hit the cap

[tame jungle]

she's not getting xp herself but any xp she would've gotten will still count towards CDC

[atomic abyss]

just go to your ship and see their exp bar

[limber oriole]

And look at what exactly? Shes lvl 125, usually they just gain surplus that goes into the academy but shes not getting any xp at all

[limber oriole]

Alsp if thats the case Ig i dont have to worry? But idk, i feel as though nothings happening.

Im trying to get xp to finish the combat data for a pr ship.

[slender turtle]

If it say 3 million by her xp bar, that means shes at max, the xp she would get still counts towards research and xp books

[limber oriole]

Ya ok so that was the cap everyone mentioned. Which I asked if that was the case because i got a weird answer from blaster

[atomic abyss]

even if the ship at the 3 mil cap does not gain exp herself

they still contribute exp to research

that is what blaster is trying to say

[limber oriole]

Ok

[whole crypt]

there's a 3mil cap for any point lv100 and above if you don't awaken
even if you're capped it'll continue to count to reserach and lecture hall

[limber oriole]

Just wanted to make sure

[whole crypt]

it's not specific to 120 or 125

[limber oriole]

The way blaster worded it made me think they meant any xp within the 3 mil cap

Which is why i asked if they meant the cap or after cap. But its sorted out

I was just worried it wasn't getting xp and i was waisting effort since bismark consistently gets mvp because well.. hella damage.

[whole crypt]

note that for a ship that you're actually still leveling the ship stops gaining XP from exercise and dorm if it's stocking XP above cog cap

[limber oriole]

I'm not leveling them in dorm, but i have a few in there for the first few sorties for the mood boost. Im assuming that will still affect bismark but the xp would just go into research. I havent put her in yet for reasons of my question, so i have other ships in there actively gaining xp for their levels so that im not waisting anything in the event i could have waisted anything

Im just tryna get this done as fast as possible. I want those 30 dr prints

[whole crypt]

all the morale bonuses etc still count for research on a capped ship, they just no longer gain XP personally

[quick mason]

Guys can someone tell me what's in here?

[whole crypt]

nothing

[quick mason]

Really it says explorable

[whole crypt]

explorable is the name of the base zone layer

you can check any other secured and unsecured zone it'll be called explorable

the difference is on secured zones you get to pick to go into a secured version instead that has less shit and is just for doing daily missions and grinds

[quick mason]

So that means the portal I go in is cleared?

[whole crypt]

that means you can go clear another zone instead or if you want to repeat that zone's exploration goals you have to go into the secured version instead
note that some stuff do not spawn on secured

tap on this to change which version to go into - secured zones are generated fresh every time as long as you've cleared the last instance, and will cost AP to enter

[eager mulch]

what’s Fei Yuen’s AB proc chance

[soft raft]

If you mean this, idk
not like she's worth using anyways outside of tech

[mighty axle]

ya guys says who should i get first chesire/mainz

[forest palm]

Cheshire is more useful...

[solid onyx]

Whoever you like more

[mighty axle]

i like both i need both
having hard time choosing which one first 😂

[soft raft]

Cheshire then

Mainz's role as DPS CL is easily powercrept while Cheshire's only direct competition is Guam and she's event limited

[forest palm]

as I already said

[iron lily]

I should be saving these and not level ships with them,yes?

[frank pulsar]

people mainly use them to raise them to a high enough level to farm 12-4 (arnd lv80-90)

eventually youll have a surplus though, and when you do you can just use it however you like

[iron lily]

Wait, so these are something different?

[eager mulch]

anyone

[frank pulsar]

yea those are different

[spring mesa]

you are confusing exp data packs with combat data packs

[forest palm]

CDP are in fact different from Data Packs

[iron lily]

gotcha 😄

[frank pulsar]

assuming equal chance for any one of the debuffs, 20% chance for the ab specifically

[eager mulch]

ty

[north wharf]

I am looking for some guidance on what area to focus on right now. To try and explain my situation: I'm at chapter 14 and have a fleet (built using guidance from this channel) readying up to clear it, can do so after Core shop reset. Beyond that I have these three options I can think of, which would be a good focus?

Option A:
Level to 120+ (by grinding 12-4):
• Laffey II
• Z52
• Unzen
• Eldridge-Kai
• Sandy-kai (part of ch14 fleet)
• Volga (part of ch14 fleet)
(Ships are level 100+ already)
Here I also need backline recs, and what should boss fleet be like?

Option B:
Grind Admiral Nakhimov (current setup is 9-3 with Drake as single VG because grinding Nicholas drop)

Option C:
Ready a mob/boss fleet and maybe Hard Arbiter fleet(s) for OpSi gear lab resource grind.

My main limiter in resources is coins and EXP packs right now, oil and upgrade materials (except gear lab or other OpSi stuff) is available in decent proportions I think

If you guys have any thoughts, I would appreciate them

Jeez, sorry for the wall btw

[viscid swift]

you do know 9-3 has an oil cap among other things right?

[iron lily]

so, for 3 staring stages, I would need a second fleet, but guide says to not bother until I have unlocked Operation Siren. Do I just ignore 3 staring stages and come back to it later?

[eternal moth]

Why do you need a second fleet?

[viscid swift]

I also don't see how all those options are mutually excluisve

[forest palm]

you can typically 1 fleet everything up to world 9

[north wharf]

I do, but maybe not entirely since I don't understand the relevance

[soft raft]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[north wharf]

They aren't, but I can't gear up all the fleets to run every option at once I dont thinn

[whole crypt]

you get the same oil cost with 1 or 3 vanguards so you're just wasting XP

[eternal moth]

There's no point in gimping your damage, since a 4 ship fleet is already over the oil cap.

[north wharf]

Ah alright

[whole crypt]

if it's about ammo you can fight enemies with 0 ammo
if your fleet isn't strong enough to kill all nodes with 0 ammo come back later

[viscid swift]

well I was moreso hinting at, why not grind level up the ships you need for later campaign stages and OpSi in 9-3 until you get Nicholas

Volga will also contribute to the Nakhimov XP grind

[north wharf]

Okay so basically grind the VG ships in my Admiral Nakhimov setup at 9-3?

Yeah my Main is currently Soyuz, Volga and I think Rossiya for 9-3

[viscid swift]

more or less

[iron lily]

wait, I don't need ammo to fight??!??
... I knew that...

[viscid swift]

though I wouldn't reccomend using maxed ships to grind XP

[north wharf]

None of the Main ships are maxed

[iron lily]

What is the drawback of fighting without ammo then?

[viscid swift]

well that works out then

[viscid swift]

you deal -50% damage

[iron lily]

aight, that answers that then, thanks!

[north wharf]

Alright that's a good way of combining options, thanks for the input. What about OpSi gear lab resource grinding? Is it worth focusing that before ch14 or when does it become truly necessary?

[little tree]

Farm opsi asap the mats are limited per a month and will take time.

You also have to do starter missions in opsi before you get real opsi monthly shops

[north wharf]

This month was the first time I cleared all design plans from shops and normal arbiter, though now having moved my gear around for a ch14 setup I have no good grinding fleet yet

[north wharf]

I cleared the story I think? How would I know if I have the real shops?

[keen sable]

It reset on you

[cobalt rapids]

move gear around, no point keeping it on ships u dont use

[little tree]

Shops rested monlthy

[eternal basalt]

All shops are accessible from all 4 ports

[eternal moth]

When you go to resupply does it look like this?

[north wharf]

Yes it does

[eternal moth]

Then you have the current shops

[north wharf]

Alright, so just grind tokens and buy everything related to Gear Lab, starting with design plans basically right?

[eternal moth]

Yeah. You shouldn't have any issues buying everything, but you may or may not need the purple or blue boxes depending on the number of resources you have

You may not need the adapt items either

[north wharf]

Whats the adapt items?

[eternal moth]

The ones that give adapts (offense, defense, and tactics)

[north wharf]

Oh right

[forest palm]

[elfin hollow]

Anyway I could obtain 7 more of these by ANYMEANS

[boreal temple]

bp selectors

[eternal basalt]

Next week event

[hollow gust]

Or just wait for a few more in face research

[vagrant gale]

is this challenge mode a rerun?

[eternal basalt]

All challenge modes are

[little tree]

~~ surely we get a new opsi boss or challenge mode boss soon tm~~

[vagrant gale]

wait there hasnt been a new one this year

[stark quiver]

we had an original set 1-2 years ago, its all rerunning right now

[eternal basalt]

@storm heron Why X? Next week is new event

[stark quiver]

[storm heron]

isn't next week implac event?

[eternal moth]

This week is

[stark quiver]

[eternal basalt]

That's this week

20 Implacc 27 EU event

[stark quiver]

this week is implacable, and next week right after is a new EU event

[storm heron]

next week still implac idk

[iron lily]

should I buy these too? The samheart564 guide shows only the gold ones, are the purple ones worth it (at least for eagle?)

[eternal basalt]

Instead of buying, just craft them out of t1 and t2 boxes

[iron lily]

well yeah, I already do that, but I thought maybe the 2k is worth it early game since I have no gear for 5 of my ships xD

[keen sable]

If you're past 2-1 that is false. Very false if past 2-4.

[iron lily]

which part is false 👀

[keen sable]

No gear for 5 ships

[iron lily]

hmm, checked again and I guess that's true, I don't have gear for portland, but she's a tank so I guess doesn't matter as much and second CV apart from unicorn, so I guess more like no gear for 1.5 out of 6 characters 😄

[keen sable]

Purple boxes just give blue gear usually anyway.

[iron lily]

oh, and no AA, but if memory serves that's more of a longterm issue anyway xD

[keen sable]

It can be a problem on 3 and 4 but you can usually just avoid the 3* aviation nodes or overlevel

[eager mulch]

1 week of implac then us event?

[eternal basalt]

20 Implacc 27 EU event

[turbid marsh]

hmmm looks like cn suggest plymouth over kazagumo for soy fleet this coming meta

kinda wonder what is the calculation on damage when it comes to ply vs kazagumo on that fleet

[atomic abyss]

might be survivability

[left cedar]

so major non UR for US ?
and unkwon for CN Anny ...

[atomic abyss]

ply buff to soy shd be less than kaza to 2 CVs

so my guess is kaza isnt tanky enough so they'd rather use ply

[eternal moth]

Shouldn't be a UR event, but we don't know for sure.

[left cedar]

99% of non UR my guess, cuz feb > CN Anny that should be mid-late may

[eternal moth]

That's assuming they keep the same release schedule as last year, and don't start cranking up the number of URs

[eternal basalt]

We know for sure, it's not even major that it gets a rate-up and frame

[stark quiver]

is implac special pool

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt get a rate up ?

[eternal basalt]

Event pool

[stark quiver]

and is it updated to the current special

[eternal basalt]

I mean Call to Arms

[cobalt rapids]

oh

[crimson marsh]

i unlocked meta showdown recently and have been trying my best at it but only get around 43 points per battle, im doing the global ones, im
not sure if im doing it wrong but any help would be much appreciated

[eternal moth]

You get the majority of points from killing your own

[eternal basalt]

You need to get your way up to level 15. +1 level per ones killed, currently we're at 12.

[cobalt rapids]

they need to level up

[crimson marsh]

ah okay i see, thank you

[eternal moth]

Or if not killing your own, having other people kill it for you. Be sure to ask for assistance from the world, and guild if you have one.

[turbid marsh]

yeah probably...

[iron lily]

I asked earlier without seeing this, it would be okay to get purple boxes from the shop with this mission active, yes?

[eternal moth]

You can even buy white boxes

JUst make sure they're coming from the supply shop and not an event store or elsewhere

[sweet delta]

What is CN fleet

[grand solar]

How many affection points do you get for a ship if she is the MVP as I had one of mine who I am working on make the MVP 3 times and the counter didn't move at all?

[storm heron]

where did you get the mvp

[ivory pawn]

Only an 1/8 of a point, do it 5 more times.

[sweet delta]

1. Ply does a pinch more
2. According to CN, ply is slower and thus has better AA

[grand solar]

Hard mode 1-1.

[sweet delta]

[cobalt rapids]

so whats the cn fleet

[grand solar]

I am long past Hard-mode 1-1. I have done hard mode's as high as world 10.

[stark quiver]

i still do hm 1-1

[sweet delta]

They appear to be leaning fully into Helena and breguet AA

[stark quiver]

max rld for both?

[sweet delta]

Max rld to keep up with 0 rld Soyuz

Well there is beacon room

For the bottom

[cobalt rapids]

only 2 frog guns

[sweet delta]

AA 10 Hz minmaxing

+10 is enough to one shot all the planes anyways

[stark quiver]

with 0 +13 planes and guns, howre the chances of one shot

[sweet delta]

21.6%

[undone plover]

guys is kron weapon in core shop/gear lab ?

[stark quiver]

not right now

[cobalt gate]

whats the best team with only 1 la9 for jin meta?

[cobalt rapids]

jintsu is light

#gameplay-help message

[terse gust]

Opsi Team Comps

[shell willow]

soyuz

[turbid marsh]

holy really? rdps plymouth does a pinch more? damn

slower eh... (looking at hamman2)

[faint jacinth]

how good seattle?

[cobalt rapids]

not worth investing into

[little tree]

Tech fodder

Whats the name of the fleet building website

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[little tree]

Thank you time to cook

[cobalt rapids]

good luck

[cobalt gate]

@cobalt rapids i tried that team, missing some damage, would changing the gun on kersarge to a rainbow be better?

[cobalt rapids]

no because u wanna delay ur dmg

[sweet delta]

Then you put Helena

[cobalt gate]

instead of aurora?

[cobalt rapids]

instead of ply

[stark quiver]

aurora is needed

[cobalt rapids]

aurora gives more dmg to ur fleet than ply

[little tree]

Who's a tankier bb vanguard or FDG

[cobalt rapids]

fdg

[little tree]

Bet

[cobalt gate]

thanks, sucks that my equipment aren't enough

[cobalt rapids]

if u got only 2 +13 hvars but u have 2 +13 skyraiders for some reason like me then u can try it like this with cv rld on 0

uh

kear is +10 hvar

[little tree]

~~why does Yamshiro Retro feel like a Downgrade ~~

[eternal moth]

Because it is

[forest palm]

we've been saying this for years, "Do not retrofit Yamashiro and Fusou, unless it's for the purpose of Collection %"

[stark quiver]

you can retro, just dont do the modernization node

[forest palm]

Ise and Hyuuga is another weird case where you don't retrofit unless you do it in one go as they lose a main gun

[oak girder]

Is there collection % for augments? Dont really wanna waste gold for a ship im gonna scrap after reaching 120

[soft raft]

i dont think so
afaik no one's been able to 100% collect all the unique augs anyways

[forest palm]

Collection % only refers to the visible collection % you can see in your profile, which accounts for all but collab ships

[oak girder]

Sweet more gold for coining then

[boreal wagon]

i mean they all 4 lose a main gun the only difference is that those 2 have 4 nodes u can buy w/o modernization and the other 2 have 9

[eternal moth]

It's the fact that Ise and Hyuuga have ghost guns or some other way to kill suicide boats. Yama and Fusou lose that completely

[forest palm]

basically what I mean is partial retrofitting is less beneficial for Ise and Hyuuga

[boreal wagon]

neither of them do

[keen comet]

Guys, do you think these planes that are in Formidable and Ark Royal are good?

[eternal moth]

Well, Hyuuga does at least

[boreal wagon]

well true they do have that barrage but neither of them have ghost guns

[storm heron]

ark royal's db could be better

[eternal moth]

I just couldn't remember what it was

[stark quiver]

hell diver instead of btd1

[jaunty vault]

ise doesn't have the barrage I'm pretty sure

[boreal wagon]

she doesnt

[eternal moth]

She doesn't, so I don't remember why she's better than yama/fu

[storm heron]

use a suisei on ark royal or any fast db for timing purposes or honestly for campaign doesn't matter much yeah just use tenrai or helldiver

[keen comet]

[jaunty vault]

Blackburn is just a slower barracuda

[keen comet]

Seriously ?

[storm heron]

barracuda is like 3rd fastest tb

[little tree]

🐟

[sweet delta]

those 2 have 4 nodes u can buy w/o modernization and the other 2 have 9

[jaunty vault]

nvm the difference is minimal
nvm the difference is huge
minimal difference with firecrest

[eternal moth]

I thought there was something about them AFTER they were retrofit.

[iron lily]

I just hit level 30 and wanted to start researching, now everytime I go to shipyard the screen freezes like this... Any way to fix this?

[jaunty vault]

this is happening more often than it should

[iron lily]

nvm, I'll head over to #tech-support my bad 🙇

[jaunty vault]

it might be a bug that needs fixing

[iron lily]

yeah, it's an account thing, cause I have the same bug on 2 different devices, so I dunno 😄

[jaunty vault]

you're not the only person it has happened to

anyways I digress

[iron lily]

yeah, I saw the tech support channel right as I posted and the first post I saw had this exact screenshot, sorry xD

[jaunty vault]

try clearing cache and the repair assets option

[cobalt gate]

@cobalt rapids it’s more so I don’t have +13 gun

Do merchant appear in explorable or only in secure?

[stark quiver]

both

[wild lagoon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[thorny plume]

for the Bulin support plan

Win 1 battle with a Universal Bulin or Prototype Bulin MKII in the fleet.

do i have to complete the whole node for it to count?

[viscid swift]

no

[opaque galleon]

What Eagle Union event?

[stark quiver]

we dont know the ships yet, but there will be a new EU event on the 27th

[sinful escarp]

oh? so we will be getting implac rerun on the 20th and then a new event on 27th?
no breaks?

[viscid swift]

yep

[sinful escarp]

oof thats harsh on newbies

[opaque galleon]

It’s not going to be a UR event so pull on the UR event

[stark quiver]

not like newbs will go all out on the new event, unless theres like a cracked gold

[ivory pawn]

Personally I'd argue it's a good thing. Gives them a decent spot to farm and get Commander EXP to unlock W9+ faster.

[opaque galleon]

But where did you get this information from?

[stark quiver]

weibo

[viscid swift]

they announced it on weibo/bilbili a few days ago

they didn't say the 27th but they did say at the end of the month

which only leaves us with so many possibilties

[thorny plume]

just cleared out Operation siren, is it wasteful to pop all my loggers and start stragetic search?

[dreamy blade]

No that's the fastest way to get rid of them

[thorny plume]

okay awesome, ima do that then. was saving my ap caches for this excat moment. Now gonna to pop all my loggers and go touch some grass ./s

[last zenith]

whats the fastest way to get xp? I just started pr1 on my mini accounts

Unlocking Ibuki rn

[thorny plume]

what chap you on?

[last zenith]

7

[novel solstice]

Just run the highest world that you can do with three relevant ships in your mob fleet.

[thorny plume]

then do the highest stage you can do safely and make sure you run the faction ships needed to earn her xp

dont use the xp chips to progress the task

[last zenith]

understood.

[thorny plume]

you can convert them to proto shop currency which is far more useful

[novel solstice]

Unicorn is good at dragging low-level vanguard ships through stuff, especially if you also load them with hp and evasion aux gear.

[weary gust]

I wouldn't even do PR cdc missions until you're at oilcap worlds at bare minimum. Unless your team just so happens to already have units that fulfill the conditions. Otherwise you're wasting that exp on ships that won't help you progress.

[last zenith]

my entire fleet is sakura

[tame jungle]

that's concerning

[last zenith]

:9

[sinful escarp]

not ideal but it can work until w12

[cobalt gate]

Hope we get some good eagle union ships

Feels like mainfleet for eagle union been lacking for a while

[patent pivot]

@rapid grail

[dreamy blade]

does kazagumo use the blue 76mm

[wraith cairn]

hello what time server reset ?

[weary gust]

6.5 hours from now.

[wraith cairn]

oh thanks

[jaunty vault]

daily reset is at 00:00 utc-7 always

[rapid grail]

epic gaming, now i know that it sometimes works

[spare epoch]

is it recommended to unlock second floor

[eternal moth]

Second floor and the rest into dock slots, yeah

It doubles the number of slots you have for your dorm.

[spare epoch]

thank you

[subtle grotto]

what's the chance of getting a golden retrofit print from hard missions

[eternal moth]

We don't know, but it SEEMS like it's higher the higher-level you go.

[weary gust]

Less than 100% and more than 0%.

[subtle grotto]

so the higher the level the more chance it's guranteed?

[sinful escarp]

50/50, you get it or you dont

[eternal moth]

Lots of signs point to that, but we don't know what the actual chances are to say for sure.

[weary gust]

In the end, run the highest world hardmode stage you can. Chance doesn't matter because you only get 3 runs per day.

[subtle grotto]

I might just got bad luck because I was told to retrofit unicorn

[bold surge]

Sometimes they are also in guild shop right?

[sinful escarp]

doing higher levels is more on the core drops, not the higher chance for gold bp

[subtle grotto]

do I have to be picky on who I use the prints on

[weary gust]

At first. Eventually you'll get enough retrofit prints to retrofit every ship in the game.

[sinful escarp]

unicorn, portland and your starter. then just do who ever

[eternal moth]

There's a priority system, but you'll eventually be able to retrofit everyone. Unicorn > Portland > Starter > Saratoga/Nelson/Independence > Helena, and then anyone else.

[subtle grotto]

my friend said to get helena and unicorn

[eternal moth]

Helena's a great pickup, but her retrofit is really low priority.

[sinful escarp]

she gets more stats yeah, but its not what she is there for anyways

[eternal moth]

Unicorn, though, is absolutely the first one to retro

[subtle grotto]

do I also try to get the rerun character?

or is that always a priority for every event

[eternal moth]

Implacable is one of the top CVs in the game

The others in the event aren't as important, although you'll be able to get Royal Oak from the shop, which I'd strongly recommend. She'll be easily one of the best BBs you can get as a newer player

[subtle grotto]

who is after this event

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, Royal Oak may not be as good as I thought.

[eternal moth]

It's an Eagle Union event, but we don't know who is going to be in it.

[subtle grotto]

how do you find out

are there certain girls I should prioritize over the other

or try to get the rainbow guns in the event shops

[eternal moth]

We know once an announcement is made

[dreamy blade]

generally if there is rainbow gear in an event shop you should always buy it

[subtle grotto]

oh ok

[dreamy blade]

even gold gear since it is event exclusive and there wont be another way to get it for a long time

[sinful escarp]

not just rainbow, its always a good idea to get the gear from events

[subtle grotto]

do I also try to get the girl in the shops if there is one

[dreamy blade]

yes but they can also drop from d3 of the event so you will probably get a copy from that if you are farming the event (which you should be doing)

[subtle grotto]

I can't go that far because I'm low leveled

[dreamy blade]

sometimes there is a 2nd UR ship from the shop and definitely want to get her (doesnt drop from a map)

[subtle grotto]

what do they mean by print or equipment form

[dreamy blade]

sometimes the shop sells the gun itself, sometimes it's a blueprint you craft from

[subtle grotto]

how many blueprints do it give

[eternal moth]

Usually 25, sometimes 15

[subtle grotto]

how much do you need to craft the equipment

[eternal moth]

25 or 15.

[dreamy blade]

i think auxes are 15 and otherwise 25, rainbow is 50

but rainbow gear from event shops is never blueprints i believe

[eternal moth]

I don't think I've ever seen any

[subtle grotto]

Should I rely on the event for exp

or more for the event currency

[dreamy blade]

yes because it has oil cap which you dont have access to until w9

[eternal moth]

Both

[subtle grotto]

What's that

[viscid swift]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[dreamy blade]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[dreamy blade]

you should usually always aim for 55k event points for the gold plates milestone reward, which lets you buy everything except the augment conversion stones and pr blueprints

[spare epoch]

how many pulls you get in the event, im afraid i dont have enough pulls

[viscid swift]

44

[dreamy blade]

and 1 week of normal cube income

[subtle grotto]

so is the oil cap saving oil

[thorny plume]

i only have enough UR bulin for one, should it be invested in raffelo or implacable thats coming?

[dreamy blade]

depends on your dock and other URs

[subtle grotto]

will the event have a certain amount you can only pull

[eternal moth]

JP notes said 45. Do we usually lose one due for any specific reason?

[viscid swift]

yeah

something about them getting an extra day's worth of missions

[eternal moth]

Implacable is probably going to be more useful

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely

[dreamy blade]

i feel like thats undervaluing raff if you are new and have zero UR bbs

[atomic abyss]

The thing is

[dreamy blade]

ok yeah implac for sure since you have biszwei

[atomic abyss]

FdG exists regardless of whether he has bis2
And implacable offers a compression of roles and both avp and a UR CV

No UR CV here so absolutely impla

[thorny plume]

ty

[dreamy blade]

for fleet tech, bb hit > rld but cv rld > hit?

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much

[thorny plume]

didnt know lvl milestones unlock perks for the whole caste

[dreamy blade]

it's pretty much what keeps endgame players busy/permanently farming

[forest palm]

good ol Lv 120 tech mines

[golden moth]

Hmm does the upcoming eu event a minor one..a new one or rerun?

[eager mulch]

new one

wait for more details

[golden moth]

Thanks for that🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡 🫡

[astral oar]

guys

do you use subs on auto sortie?

[stark quiver]

no

[shell willow]

if u want to get xp for them go ahead

[tropic tusk]

hi is there any meta jintsuu team recommend?

[forest palm]

chefs still in the kitchen

[atomic abyss]

Best is probably a kear+yk2+rumey variant

Tho ofc BB comp works too since mintsuu is light

[tropic tusk]

who is this?

[stark quiver]

aurora

[atomic abyss]

I mean I'm pretty sure the English text is in the pic

[stark quiver]

lwk unreadable

[tropic tusk]

i tried 3 bb ( mushi, russian, nj) ( laffey2, helena, eld) only did 1/3 of her hp

[atomic abyss]

[stark quiver]

yea i can see why

[forest palm]

that shit is so pixilated and tiny, I'd like to know how you can read that

[tropic tusk]

if its light armor i use AP ammo right?

[atomic abyss]

1/3 is very low for a UR BB comp

[forest palm]

HE

[atomic abyss]

WHAT

[tropic tusk]

oh use HE ok

[atomic abyss]

BB AP does like, 30% to light

Or was it 40%
Can't remember

[stark quiver]

💀

[forest palm]

still a sizable amount of damage lmao

it's why I say you can brute force most things

[atomic abyss]

I mean compared to what, 140% for HE...

[sweet delta]

55% for the abnormally high 457mm I think

[atomic abyss]

/armour

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/877421174114631700/1020079467672125481/Ammo_Modifiers_Chart_AL_updated_9-15-22.jpg

[sweet delta]

For best results, combine with Bowgun

[stark quiver]

high explosive > hit an enemy and goes kaboom, aka can destroy light armor ships
armor piercing > pierces armor and then explode, aka can destroy armored ships , med/heavy

[atomic abyss]

@tropic tusk refer to this in future

[sweet delta]

Or just read the gun details in game

[tropic tusk]

oh this good shit

[tropic tusk]

does my team need changing tho

no unzen , zwei and imp ,(z25 not mlb )

[forest palm]

Musashi isn't exactly that good for Light

[stark quiver]

nj,soyuz,alsace

ply, helena,eld

[atomic abyss]

Use a different UR BB, not Musashi

If you have Soy, use Alsace and Vanguard who came after her

[tropic tusk]

3q

[tropic tusk]

dont have aurora mlb sadly

[stark quiver]

+13 spam

aurora takes 4 bulins to mlb

[tropic tusk]

0 bulins atm

[atomic abyss]

How do you not have purple bulins

[tropic tusk]

cause i spend them all

3 shot not bad i guess 45 ish per fight

[sharp socket]

60 oil but its not the oil that you should worry about because its really low amount

[storm heron]

I thought it's 80

[tropic tusk]

0->40->60? i think ? i click too fast didnt see it

ok sometimes i can 2 hit it thats nice

[atomic abyss]

3 shot is low by Helena standards tho...

At least for what you appear to be using

Unless they're like, not 125

[tropic tusk]

Or gear bad

[storm heron]

oh not the kgv gun

[forest palm]

that gun on NJ is so bad, and the one on Soyuz isn't syncing with Helena

just use 2 MK6s

[tropic tusk]

i dont have much bb guns

[little tree]

the +0 AA GUN

[atomic abyss]

Just use the purple MK6...

Alsace keeps the MK7
Both NJ and Soy should have the MK6

[little tree]

please +10 NJ STAAG

[atomic abyss]

Alsace should be using a CL secondary

[timid beacon]

gun on NJ is definitely subpar, and the spread is wild. and the STAAGs, definitely gotta get some upgrades on those big agree

[atomic abyss]

+0 staag is like the least of the issues here

[forest palm]

Soyuz is gonna need an HSFCR

[atomic abyss]

HELENA WITH OXY AAAAAA

[forest palm]

also Helena would need an SGR

[little tree]

the + 8 Tool BOX???

[timid beacon]

is there a reason Alsace has the UR aux over NJ? is that a timing thing? otherwise NJ would benefit from the speedier first shot

[tropic tusk]

oh wait her oxy got replace with other gear lol

[little tree]

~~ it gets worse the more i look at it ~~

[storm heron]

can oathed amagi deal more damage than normal fritz for hormet

[atomic abyss]

Alsace inflicts a debuff with her shots tho
She shd be firing first
Also her higher shell damage would mean she benefits more from the afct

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

Depends on gear ofc

Also the rest of the comp matters too

[stark quiver]

oathed amagi with tbs cannot deal more dmg than fritz with la9s

[storm heron]

unfortunate my 2 la9s is with nakh

[sharp socket]

[atomic abyss]

Amagi won't come close then

[storm heron]

nvm my question then, it's just a matter of combinations

[stark quiver]

you know bfgs exist too right

[sharp socket]

uhh yea thats something of a fleet

[tropic tusk]

Ok better?

[stark quiver]

sure

actually, no whys the gun +3

[tropic tusk]

im already going in the event with low money

[sharp socket]

now +10 everything and youll be good

[storm heron]

but amagi's tb deal more damage than bfg

[stark quiver]

ok then its worse

[tropic tusk]

gota save some for the pull

[spare epoch]

holy 7k gem

[sharp socket]

you have 24k coins right there

just spam some 12-4 and you can afford gear

[tropic tusk]

gota save oil for event

[atomic abyss]

More than if she herself or another IJN CV were to use the BFGs

[sharp socket]

+10 a purple gun isnt that bad

[viscid swift]

why....

[stark quiver]

then its worse

[sharp socket]

just do that one and itll be alright
also dont go doing meta fights if you're pinching for oil

[storm heron]

is it ship dependent? can't we say like, ijn buffed tb > bfg med therefore 8 bfg < 3 tb + 5 bfg < 3 tb + 2 skyraider + 3 bfg

[viscid swift]

you can start the rerun with 0 oil and still get everything you need

[tropic tusk]

oh u can?

[atomic abyss]

It's specifically Amagi's torpedo buff

[sharp socket]

if you do some active grinding yes

[atomic abyss]

Only Amagi's torp buff allows her TBs to overtake BF109Gs on med
...for IJN CVs

[tropic tusk]

time to spend oil then

[atomic abyss]

Rumey is not an IJN CV
She can use 2 extremely high efficiency fighter slots

There's even the option of her going BF+skyraider

[astral oar]

guys is there an ingame time?

[viscid swift]

Skyraider actually does worse than Bf-109G against medium armor assuming same enhance level

it's just behind the Vit-2 actually

[storm heron]

oh didnt know that

[sharp socket]

if you wait long enough in home screen you can see the server time in idle mode

[atomic abyss]

Anyways doggo, you kinda massively misinterpreted the Amagi buff

[forest palm]

do you have the specific numbers for this all?

[viscid swift]

I pulled them from Riciest's bomb spread page

[storm heron]

was this a lie?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sharp socket]

am i EN'ing or whats happening here

[atomic abyss]

Parrot, it depends on a million things

Context matters

But for the skyraider case yes

[timid beacon]

I'd think one of the key things that matters is slot efficiencies, no?

[viscid swift]

what

[storm heron]

the question was, how many la9 do rumey need to overtake oathed amagi on med

[atomic abyss]

0

[viscid swift]

I mean

[stark quiver]

why cant you just try it

[viscid swift]

here's the question, what context

[atomic abyss]

Mornet

[storm heron]

like solo context with like soyuz kaza buff

[viscid swift]

Well this is what I'm going with

[atomic abyss]

Imo you're grossly underestimating Rumey Vs med

[timid beacon]

why not just also oath rumey in that case?

[atomic abyss]

That's not the issue

[sharp socket]

for vacuum testing go see larscalc

[viscid swift]

great thing about Fritz is she can 4 strike without sacking damage too much

[stark quiver]

because it takes money

[atomic abyss]

Oath doesn't magically make Amagi better than Rumey for med armour lol

[storm heron]

If I wanted to do this does the rainbow gun fire on time?

[timid beacon]

true, but if oaths are already happening, the money is flowing already lol

[viscid swift]

I'm using 457 on Soyuz

[storm heron]

I mean yeah, I was asking cause amagi was the previous best med

[atomic abyss]

Uhhhhh noooo?

[viscid swift]

she wasn't

[atomic abyss]

Yorktown 2 says hi

[storm heron]

eh? like soy nakh magi back then?

[viscid swift]

well we never used that for anything

[atomic abyss]

Kears Yk2 Impla comp was still better iirc

[storm heron]

oh damn

[viscid swift]

were they?

[atomic abyss]

Lower threshold to reach the same level of DPS

[normal cedar]

what does this coupon do??

[stark quiver]

i think its like a 300 gem discount for some skins

[timid beacon]

what gun would you use on Kears in that case?

[stark quiver]

457 prob

[atomic abyss]

That's more because Yk2 doesn't fit in that comp

Yk2 in her best comp does more against med than Amagi... At least individually

What would push Amagi over the threshold would be using her with the other IJNs

You would have to look at the team itself after all

[storm heron]

aight then I'll probably do more research

[atomic abyss]

It's always a package deal

Amagi will shine if you're using many other IJNs already

So say Shinano

[timid beacon]

so Hwah Jah retro really did turn out to be a big player in ch15 support fleets, eh?

[stark quiver]

shes good

[sweet delta]

Bis

[timid beacon]

I had high hopes when the retro's stats were first out, glad to see

I was in a discord where Hwah Jah retro was getting dunked on and I was like... ok but how is she not perfect for the support fleet? 😄

[sweet delta]

[timid beacon]

just nice to know that sometimes I'm capable of seeing good ship options lol

[zenith heron]

If its true

Then when it comes to best Medium comp

Its Nyakhimov-Soyuz-Fritz,

Then Kear-YK2-Implacable,

Then Amagi-Shinano-Implacable?

[atomic abyss]

Well, second would technically be Kear Yk2 Rumey, but that assumes the boss doesn't move enough for a freeze to be necessary

Same with triple IJN CV

[zenith heron]

So as long as it does not need a freeze, fritz on the yk2 comp, then Hakuryuu on IJN, I see

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately, I feel that such comparisons are somewhat meaningless after the "best"

Because in situations where you do use more than 1 team

[lusty dirge]

This is my progress so far on her.

[atomic abyss]

...it's opsi
The boss armour for the month is fixed

[stark quiver]

do you need help with smth?

[atomic abyss]

So you have to plan towards that 1 armour anyways

[zenith heron]

Pretty much, unless being lazy and Arbiters almost being CV favored I guess...

[atomic abyss]

Then again, such comps would be necessary if the player lacked the alternatives to begin with

I used Soy Nakhi Amagi for the few months till Rumey came out

[zenith heron]

Alr, that sates my Curiosity, thnks....

[atomic abyss]

As with a lot of things in AL
It's a case of "itdependicitis"

[storm heron]

I think I'll just be going with one of these two

[eternal moth]

What's with the baguette?

[timid beacon]

the plane? it has passive intercept on the cheap

[zenith heron]

I hope that is just for timing unless dissatisfied from the converge Torp bombers timing ...

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

when I looked at the chinese comp, baguette good for AA and to make nakh faster to sync

[eternal moth]

But if you want intercept you wouldn't be using rocket planes, which have no intercept

[timid beacon]

it do be speedy too, yeah

[storm heron]

or why did they use baguette

[stark quiver]

im p sure this is for hornet

[timid beacon]

I guess it adds intercept instead?

[wind hazel]

might work might not work, wait lv15 and see how it fare

[storm heron]

also I forgot to zero the soy tech for 3-strike

[eternal moth]

Why zero it if she's already slower than your carriers?