you can buy them directly remember
#gameplay-help
viscid swift
boreal wagon
at least up till (and including) 4
weary gust
That's not f2p then
worldly pewter
which fleets are u using to farm 2-4 ?
brazen hornet
That's not f2p then
Your are correct.
viscid swift
free 2 play means no money spent what so ever
sweet delta
which fleets are u using to farm 2-4 ?
Why does it matter?
brazen hornet
which fleets are u using to farm 2-4 ?
I switch the ships at 70 so that I can MLB them and then move on so as to get all ships MLB
viscid swift
it goes without saying this highly inefficient for XP
mellow cape
If you play your cards right, cube income will be enough to sustain ftp and still get all new UR ships.
worldly pewter
Why does it matter?
to see how much of a hindered progression he is doing 
boreal wagon
to see how much of a hindered progression he is doing <:thunking:282134697616736...
i think it is already very clear how much they are hindering themselves given theyve never moved past 2-4
but i also don't think it matters cuz thats simply how they want to play
worldly pewter
I switch the ships at 70 so that I can MLB them and then move on so as to get al...
if u are a completionist mind then did u manage to mlb the ur ships from events ?
sweet delta
1200 oil is crazy. I have 300k coins on my alt after getting raffaello, and I haven't played campaign for a year
weary gust
if u are a completionist mind then did u manage to mlb the ur ships from events ...
Does it even matter if they do? They're in 2-4 and will be in w3 for the next year. They don't need ships past level 50 anyways.
mellow cape
I already gave him the resources to check map drops and be efficient getting universally dropped ships. Nothing more to give until they want to change up their gold income/cube income without whaling
No point in helping otherwise
turbid marsh
if u are a completionist mind then did u manage to mlb the ur ships from events ...
i mean event maps and opsi give the spec cores and stuff
worldly pewter
Does it even matter if they do? They're in 2-4 and will be in w3 for the next ye...
i want to see how far of a completionist mind he is or else this defeats it
weary gust
His chosen completionist route probably isn't even possible to do before the game's end of service./
sweet delta
This is gameplay help, not psychological dissection
mellow cape
Yeah lol
atomic abyss
viscid swift
I mean I've been farming 13-4H for how long now
weary gust
And let's not even get into the MONTHS of wasted time he's lost on opsi completionism, which takes 2 years or so.
brazen hornet
His chosen completionist route probably isn't even possible to do before the gam...
That would be something.. 😂
viscid swift
2 Bunkerhill drops, no Javelin drops, as I said the drop rate for the starters is low
oh yeah, good luck making getting past W13 with the way you're going
mellow cape
What's your collection percent? Just curious since it's been a year or two since I went after map drops
I need to do it for W14 :<
viscid swift
whose?
mellow cape
Yours :0
viscid swift
99.9%
mellow cape
Makes sense lmao, I fear I am cooked when it comes to certain ships
worldly pewter
the way he is doing can't be called completionist imo
but it is an interesting way of progression
stark quiver
There’s nothing being completed so
viscid swift
I mean completionist in what sense
weary gust
Can't even call it progression. He's been stuck at 2-4 for 6 months.
viscid swift
it's completionist in some ways but not in others
weary gust
He's hard walled himself.
weary gust
oh yeah is he doing this to hard mode as well or what
Probably.
atomic abyss
Well
weary gust
If he even has unlocked it yet. After 6 months.
brazen hornet
oh yeah is he doing this to hard mode as well or what
Eventually, not yet. I have done chapter 1 hard mode.
stark quiver
viscid swift
well you're limited to 3 runs a day so may as well start sooner
weary gust
Technically he could do unlimited runs by cancelling before boss.
mellow cape
weary gust
Yeah for the boss drop only it wont work but for all others it would. And I think it's more likely to get boss drop before you get literally every other possible drop option.
mellow cape
:< some of these I don't think I'll roll/farm
viscid swift
Penelope is in the guild shop I think, so that's one tick you can get right now
weary gust
You'll get all of them eventually through wishing well/map farming.
stark quiver
Just check wiki
weary gust
Normal building during events fills in a lot of the perma pool ones too.
boreal wagon
Penelope is in the guild shop I think, so that's one tick you can get right now
she is
mellow cape
Penelope is in the guild shop I think, so that's one tick you can get right now
Ty holy shit
stark quiver
Don’t forget your retrofits
viscid swift
Taiho muse is also in medal shop rotation
worldly pewter
he skipped the last ijn event 
viscid swift
always check the wiki on ship availability, they also do a clean out of the perma pools each year around January
mellow cape
I never knew that. Also, yeahh wasn't around for akagi cv
My collection rate used to be 97%
I dropped off and stopped playing for a while. It was at 89% at my lowest when I came back so it's been a trip working back up.
fathom relic
Do we have oneshot fleet for Hornet meta yet? Just asking.
viscid swift
no
atomic abyss
Do we have oneshot fleet for Hornet meta yet? Just asking.
No way to know since she's not at lv15
viscid swift
no one has her at level 15 yet
stark quiver
We have one shot fleets for hornet meta right now
fathom relic
Right, tks a lot for info
viscid swift
what did Yahoo cook up using his not be spoken of methods this time
atomic abyss
He was asking us
I mean the thing is her HP is super low
But I think she has some dmg red?
stark quiver
What’s her ehp
With the Eva rate
And blind
viscid swift
yeah but +18% evasion rate isn't anything to sneeze out, nor the planes
atomic abyss
/sirenstats
odd rootBOT
viscid swift
ironically the blind is the least of the issues to one shot
boreal wagon
But I think she has some dmg red?
eva rate bonus but almost
atomic abyss
Basically have to run Sirius huh
boreal wagon
sir she is a CV
viscid swift
Sirius doesn't work against CVs
stark quiver
Just run Bristol 
viscid swift
I would unironically rather use bristol
boreal wagon
just wait for may UR to have free eva rate reduction
stark quiver
Maybe quyet was right the whole time
viscid swift
yeah that'll be the day
fathom relic
Classic of creating problem and releasing new ship solving it lmao
I dont mean complaining, yea
viscid swift
not like if that were the case it would be all that relevant
atomic abyss
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
stark quiver
Time to whip out my 4 shot fleet
viscid swift
by the time it were ready to be used, we'd be nearing 70k anyway
undone plover
~~Just use helena 
~~
hollow gust
Rodney meta was easy
atomic abyss
After how much trial and error tho
hollow gust
I oneshot her day 1
boreal wagon
in hindsight everything is easy
atomic abyss
I somehow doubt that goose
undone plover
I also one shot her day 1 
atomic abyss
I mean day 1 would be level 1 so I guess
hollow gust
Every boss could be brute forced 
honest stirrup
Letsgoo brute force qem
hollow gust
I ran a desyncrd sakura CV, Rodney is a far more interesting fight then the stupid stat check boss we have these days
viscid swift
not like Rodney META wasn't also a stat check if you want to one shot
besides, with these past bosses you could simply just use Helena and call it a day, you couldn't with Rodney
hollow gust
Far simpler then renown back then
fathom relic
Isnt renown the boss who counting the active use to change phase back then?
woven star
Is Frontier Medal good? Never seen in any gear recommendation
stark quiver
Extra steam cata
molten zinc
it's the same as a steam catapult but with less hp or something
woven star
ok. thx. seems good. at +13 same avi but less 20 hp plus buff for back sides. I thought it was less avi. time to mlb Houshou
noble tulip
ok. thx. seems good. at +13 same avi but less 20 hp plus buff for back sides. I ...
Buffs are pvp only, it's only a steam catapult in pve
stark quiver
Fancy catapult
You’ll get it from normal grinding anyways, and if 20 hp matters you have bigger problems to deal with
sweet delta
Vanguard gear is unknown for obvious reasons
Change Helena to Unzen if the damage is enough
one of these is not like the others
boreal wagon
are those older screenshots
sweet delta
1.7.9
stark quiver
1.8.9 
weary gust
Ambushes aren't a thing anymore ... ?
You have to clear all normal enemy nodes and then the boss.
sweet delta
not ambushes. But your fleet is built poorly if you're getting ambushes
full drum
so ambushes i can evade all for all 3 stars?
bold surge
You only need to make sure all fleets are dead before killing the boss for 3 star
full drum
okay ty
sweet delta
always evade ambushes
one of the buffs in the top left corner on the map also tells you how many enemy fleets remain. Make it zero before fighting the boss. Ambushes don't count towards that
full drum
ah thank u great i never saw it
i guess Enterprise was a aircraft carrier not a Cruiser?
viscid swift
what
boreal wagon
technically both is correct
sweet delta
/wiki enterprises
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
sweet delta
first two links
woven star
Hmm there's a chance get meta enty somewhere
weary gust
There is no META Enty available in game, she exists only in lore atm.
sweet delta
there is meta enty asset in game
opaque galleon
Is there a w15 boss fleet that can do all bosses on auto? The w15 guide doesn’t acknowledge BBB as a reasonable requirement
sweet delta
for autosearch or for lethal first clear?
opaque galleon
Auto search, I have 3 starred already
sweet delta
i don't have experience with that, but shouldn't safe threat be easy? Put a decent boss fleet with a healer
opaque galleon
It’s still on lethal though
last zenith
does it say 100% then? just because u 3 starred it doesnt mean its finished
sweet delta
then it is hard
opaque galleon
It does say 100%, but the autosearch pattern makes my mob fleet not target the air support fleets and the boss fleet has to fight all 3 bosses. If it’s not really feasible, I can just manually select targets until I get down to safe ig.
sweet delta
there are no enemy air support fleets in clearing mode. But indeed just semi-autoing is safe until it's safe
last zenith
al gameplay very boring, only good thing is battleships and carriers but u can do that
viscid swift
what
opaque galleon
How long does it take to get down to safe? 20 sorties?
plain saffron
depends on stage
soft raft
al gameplay very boring, only good thing is battleships and carriers but u can d...
#al-general is that way
Or #game-feedback if you have anything further to add besides "this game sucks"
slow barn
stark quiver
i forgot editing resends command
sweet delta
it seems like they plan to 🕹️ and just entered the ships in renhex tool in the reverse order
stark quiver
holy teatorp
fleet urchin
what's the best torp/dive bomber in gear lab?
stark quiver
best for what
fleet urchin
for shinano
stark quiver
for what content specifically
fleet urchin
for the fleet for boss fights
stark quiver
ju87d,saiun kai,ryuusei are best on her for single target heavy armor bossing
wyvern is best for campaign
tenrai is best dive bomber in game
fleet urchin
so you can use tenrai for every task
stark quiver
it loses to skyraider in single target med/light bossing
shell willow
if you go back to 199 affinity after reaching 200 then the stat bonus goes back to 9% as well?
stark quiver
💀
river junco
What gear do I slap on uni/perseus if I'm trying to level the other ships in the fleet on 12-4
stark quiver
flapjack wyvern like always
forest palm
Twin 76 Mk 37 AA Gun if you can afford it
stark quiver
unless you wanna pull some mvp control shenanigans.... then i guess youd just run shittier gear
woven star
Hellcat, barracuda for poor style
forest palm
unless you make Uni/Percy gear shit they're taking MVP more often than not
river junco
yeah im tryna do some mvp control by giving them gear with shit damage
stark quiver
hellcat cuda will steal mvp
river junco
i slapped the new w15 support plane for fighter cause i had some laying around, contemplating what to put on for torp for fast rld but little damage
forest palm
probably need to use Type 0, and some other trash, Pre-load is annoying to fight for MvP control 
stark quiver
albacore
woven star
Never thinking about mvp management. Faster kill - faster end - more runs, more exp per hour
stark quiver
it means more bonus exp going towards a capped ship
and you gotta wait for 150 morale anyways
river junco
time isn't an issue, if anything morale is gonna run out faster
worldly pewter
tbh it depends 
i like ending faster and move on
stark quiver
youre actively losing out on 25% more exp that way
woven star
youre actively losing out on 25% more exp that way
I think less. Mvp how much bonus?
stark quiver
im talking about being above 120 morale
and mvp is 2x exp
worldly pewter
ultimately exp won't be the bottleneck factor
slow barn
there can be adjustments, sandy is going to die as tank
its because i dont know that the order was from bottom to top, in my head the z52 was the tank. i would exchange the aquila for the zuihou too, but would that be the only adjustment?
stark quiver
its because i dont know that the order was from bottom to top, in my head the z5...
nope, thats one improvement,
but read the guide i linked
woven star
im talking about being above 120 morale
and mvp is 2x exp
So totally it's 20% per ship (1 caped and 5 not) and you still get some point exp in exp books from lecture hall. Anyway yes who want min-max it's a loss
sweet delta
its because i dont know that the order was from bottom to top, in my head the z5...
I don't think z52 main tank with aquila unicorn is a good idea. Keep Zuihou. If you need more AA, then Musashi can bring an AA radar
stark quiver
So totally it's 20% per ship (1 caped and 5 not) and you still get some point e...
How did you get 20%
woven star
How did you get 20%
yeah bad math. ok. example 6 ships, 1k exp per fight, +1k from mvp and 500 from flagship. If unicorn mvp and ofc not flagship - 7.5k total. minus 2k from unicorn who is caped. Lecture hall anyway got 22% from uni 2k. so you'll get back 440 exp from it.
conclusion
7.5k exp ideal situation when no ships capped
5.5k (-2k from mvp uni)+440 (from uni's back exp lecture hall)=5.940k exp what you'll get - it's about 79.2% from ideal situation
another situation mvp not unicorn
6.5 (-1k from what not mvp unicorn get)+440 (from uni's and mvp ship back exp lecture hall) =6.940k exp - it's 92.5%
dam if I'm not fcup a lot in math you loss without min max mvp 13.3% exp. after some corrections. I'll forget mvp exp which will back to lactuer hall. or not if ship less 100lvl. so exp numbers between 10.4-13.4% lost
just in case
mvp +100% exp
flagship +50%
right?
honest stirrup
Is it possible on paper to get a meowfficer with 3 or 4 UR talents (not counting IX meowfficers obv)?
honest stirrup
I made myself a spreadsheet of the talents I wanted most on each meowfficer but unfortunately realised DD skills aren't that great
So my "dream Justice" has Mountain, Flame and Destiny
And Heart of the torpedo which is basically a UR skill
honest stirrup
Double EXP lmao that's just pure definition of flex
But thanks
viscid swift
yeah bad math. ok. example 6 ships, 1k exp per fight, +1k from mvp and 500 from ...
uhh, I don't wanna be that guy but to be blunt, your English is so broken and incoherent no one can understand what you say half the time
mellow cape
woven star
I mean difference between capped mvp unicorn in team and another ship mvp is about 12.2% exp.
viscid swift
I don't get the whole conversation TBH,
- why would you use Unicorn or Perseus in the first place, 12-4 is too easy to justify such a thing
- Akashi or another repair is a better is the better baby sitter for 12-1/12-4 farming fleets anyway if you're done leveling main fleets
though your whole argument about XP per hour is rather nonsensical still
woven star
There was a discussion how many exp losses when unicorn will be mvp. I said it's about 20%. I just divide mvp exp on 5 other ships. But after some mathematical conclusions I got 12.2% difference. This number per run.
mellow cape
Midmaxing exp gains or whatever feels very nonsensical in a game like this. The time between each event, time between each PR series, and so on gives you a ton of time to plan and use oil without worrying about the best set up for exp at the end of the day
Just get gold. Your plates. Your op si resources, and event resources. Exp for ships comes in abundance
viscid swift
- it's not particularly difficult to do
- your goals are evidently rather different from someone who is trying to min-max xp gain
mellow cape
That is fair, goals can be different but the finish line at the end of the day feels the same.
viscid swift
well when your goal is to 120 every ship in the game
looking for ways to squeeze out more XP hardly seems out of the question does it
mellow cape
I'm getting there :0 I just need 10k more fleet tech to be maxed .. at a casual pace
woven star
Imho biggest losses xp from overcaped lecture hall. Chasing for mvp it's not real problem. But every one here have their own points in that
mellow cape
Idk, people get worried about mid maxing but I've caught up plenty playing at a non mid maxed mindset
sweet delta
is mid maxing a higher form of min maxing?
stark quiver
I’m back
woven star
I'm not judging them. I'm in same of 0lb team farm.
viscid swift
Idk, people get worried about mid maxing but I've caught up plenty playing at a ...
well when someone asks, clearly trying to learn, why would you not give them the objectively right answer for one
mellow cape
My answer is to not worry about it too much at the end of the day. Unicorn or not in the fleet if it helps, it works.
tame jungle
your answer has no value to the person asking the question in this case
storm heron
mellow cape
Tell me why :0
woven star
Just say instead of 10 runs ppl get xp as for 11 map runs. But as I noticed at this point they get overfill lecture hall
viscid swift
who cares about the lecture hall, if you're active, you'll always keep it topped up
stark quiver
honest stirrup
Tell me why :0
Because you're not answering the question by saying he shouldn't min-max to begin with, invoking your opinion as your baseline
He wants to because his goals are beyond your understanding
Conclusion, your answer isn't on the same level of existence as the question
woven star
who cares about the lecture hall, if you're active, you'll always keep it topped...
Maybe because lecture hall it's a part of min-max xp too
tame jungle
if it's topped up in both cases (as you have with farming) it will make no difference
viscid swift
I don't know how you min-max lecture XP esepcially when as I said, you keep it topped anyway by playing normally
stark quiver
Maybe because lecture hall it's a part of min-max xp too
Bro what even is your argument right now 
viscid swift
how do you think the lecture hall even works
stark quiver
He doesn’t know
mellow cape
I am implying it, but I'll say it straight up. Just don't worry about it. Wasted exp or not, finish line is the same. I understand that his goals are different I guess, that's the better answer I was looking for
I'm at 196 120'ed ships playing this game at a snails pace. I don't even worry about oil efficiency anymore. The content pace in this game is slow enough so that you don't have to worry about it
honest stirrup
if I understood correctly, a percentage of the exp gained in battle accumulates in the lecture hall capacity, which drains out over time by converting said exp into books?
woven star
I'm not in mood explaining stupid questions as it on bullying
boreal wagon
if I understood correctly, a percentage of the exp gained in battle accumulates ...
more or less
woven star
Yes. Chapters and opsi for ships under 100lvl. So?
viscid swift
if I understood correctly, a percentage of the exp gained in battle accumulates ...
pretty much but the point I'm getting at is there's a cap on how much XP you can convert a day
stark quiver
Did bud just say under lvl 100
Holy fuck if you wanna make a point at least give the right info
woven star
Did bud just say under lvl 100
Below
viscid swift
here's the numbers, at max the lecture hall can store 220,000 XP
to burn through all of that in 24 hours you would need to convert 9167 XP an hour. at least The lecture hall currently maxes out at 6600 XP an hour
boreal wagon
ships at level 100 and above contribute to proficiency, not below
atomic abyss
alpha you're not helping
woven star
Anyway. Yes. English is not my native language. Ship higher or at 100lvl. But you know what I'm want to say. Just you stupid &$#$%
viscid swift
we don't because we legitimately don't understand what you're saying
hollow gust
honest stirrup
We can also just drop the topic since this discussion started from nowhere to even begin with
atomic abyss
i mean in this case i feel like the whole discussion just built upon a fair few misunderstandings
woven star
But you know how lecture work. You just think you are smarter.
atomic abyss
i dont really like to comment on people's fluency in english but
i am sorry, but it is contributing to the confusion - especially when it is giving the impression you have no idea how things work
viscid swift
Allow me to be blunt, you have demonstrated thus far you have very little understanding in how the game actually works or if you do know, you're communicating it so poorly that you're giving the impression you don't.
Please don't give advice if you do not understand the topic or if you can't communicate what you're trying to say effectively, it does more harm than good ultimately.
mellow cape
There are discord plugins that can auto translate your messages or a Google translate extension if you want to communicate more clearly
brave blade
sorry to intrude suddenly gentlemen, i come with a weird question and i don't really know where to ask it
viscid swift
shoot
brave blade
is there any way to give like feedback related to the merchandise?
viscid swift
not really in this server
atomic abyss
nope
marble wind
When is the next event?
woven star
First I don't give advice. I just said that loss between mvp uni and not about 10-13%. After you start bulin for English
atomic abyss
i suppose you can try emailing the shop's cs 
viscid swift
When is the next event?
Implacable's rerun next week
unkempt widget
Is this fine for my zuihou?
brave blade
i was looking at the plushies and they fell down in quality quite... hard 
atomic abyss
When is the next event?
thursday
marble wind
Implacable's rerun next week
Is that something a should aim for as a newer player?
atomic abyss
yes
stark quiver
Is this fine for my zuihou?
It can be better
unkempt widget
how
viscid swift
you should aim to pull Implacable yes
brave blade
oh yes implacable is really good
mellow cape
The gear from the event I've seen very few use it but implacable is a nice CV
marble wind
btw how do you guys farm decor tokens? I’m already spamming commissions as much as I can
brave blade
you got better options on the gear lab for equipment when it comes to implacable tbh
cobalt rapids
keep spamming comms
marble wind
Damn
mellow cape
You can also interact with your dorm girls to get decor tokens too (RNG)
stark quiver
Dorm tokens kinda just build up over time
brave blade
btw how do you guys farm decor tokens? I’m already spamming commissions as much ...
daily? spamming comms, giving food to the waifus and taking care of the cats
they build up fast if you do those 3 daily
marble wind
daily? spamming comms, giving food to the waifus and taking care of the cats
I don’t got the cats thing unlocked yet
brave blade
keep leveling up, you got this bro
marble wind
Ty
brave blade
all the room stuff eventually returns so nothing is pushing you
honest stirrup
Decor coins, cats?
atomic abyss
First I don't give advice. I just said that loss between mvp uni and not about 1...
Dude. No one here is "bullying" you for your English
The fact is, it is not very good, and isnt getting your point across - cos it's giving the impression you havent quite understood the mechanics you're trying to talk about
boreal wagon
except collab sets which are up in the air
brave blade
Decor coins, cats?
when you take care of the cats you get some coins
atomic abyss
if you take valid criticism as bullying
im sorry, you really need to grow a thicker skin
storm heron
Remember who you work for, I'm just sayin'
brave blade
i find it difficult to think people here is bullying someone over the english stuff, a lot of us don't even speak english as our native tongue lmao
atomic abyss
it does happen in #al-general from time to time 
brave blade
it does happen in <#528197562998718474> from time to time <:LeanderEhh:666111444...
DON'T COMPARE US TO THE BARBARIANS
sorry i had to say it 
atomic abyss
i mean even a person with good english could be bad at trying to get across their explanation though
boreal wagon
it was less bullying and more pointing out that it is genuinely hard to understand sometimes which is actually more so meant as an act of help
brave blade
yeah that's fair, having to explain something again is quite common when you use other language
boreal wagon
but i think the topic has lived long enough now
mellow cape
Worth mlb'ing raffaello after a couple weeks of her release?
sweet delta
Technically raff gun is her best gun for 20s now, but it's such a waste to give her that when the next bests are so close behind
cobalt rapids
and if using against light ull have to unequip her unique aug 
sweet delta
boreal wagon
thats what we call good game design
cobalt rapids
Worth mlb'ing raffaello after a couple weeks of her release?
depends on ur dock and ur UR prios
stark quiver
Worth mlb'ing raffaello after a couple weeks of her release?
shes like the 2nd best mobbing bb and it kinda ends there
atomic abyss
to be fair, i dont think she was ever good against light...
in fact the augment would be the 2nd buff she's gotten
mellow cape
For bbs 
atomic abyss
she was part of the handful of old units they got their kit adjusted no?
stark quiver
For bbs <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
shes mlb already
viscid swift
For bbs <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
what are your other URs?
atomic abyss
just like gz and norcar
forest palm
they have Musashi...
stark quiver
forest palm
the need for Raph is very low
viscid swift
also yeah, you already mlb her....
mellow cape
viscid swift
but to answer your question, no, I would not have MLBing Raffaelo if you were short on Bullins
mellow cape
Oh I meant 125😭 I'm running low on arrays actually
stark quiver
nah
viscid swift
absolutely not
though you can still bank the XP to get her to 125 if that time comes
mellow cape
Okayy I'll let her sit in my dock. I get nervous about arrays lately
I've been 125'ing a bunch of stuff after my break and I'm like one ship away from being broke
stark quiver
just be more careful on who to 125
so far from those images the options u 125d arent bad,
and id assume the bad ones are pre-break
mellow cape
Yeah that's true. I guess taking a break and having new UR ships doesn't help. Especially after fritz and Z52...
Yepp prebreak
viscid swift
you'll be fine, you don't have to worry about rerun URs and the next new UR isn't until May
ancient burrow
what exactly was the flooding effect that some ships apply on the enemies? 
molten solstice
So there is a ib ship that has something like a dragon that spits a lazer,and it destroys me in multiplayer,which ship is she?
viscid swift
you mean Bismarck Zwei?
molten solstice
Ah, that's why
mellow cape
Oh May? 
I think I should be fine unless they release a double UR
viscid swift
I give it a 50/50 chance tbh
molten solstice
you mean Bismarck Zwei?
I guess?i have no idea thats why im asking
stark quiver
Oh May? <:WarPat:588629688839176200> I think I should be fine unless they releas...
even if they do, one is bound to be worse, or both at that so
viscid swift
well she does have a summon which vaguely resembles a mechanical dragon
boreal wagon
also shoots lasor
stark quiver
yea its zwei prob
viscid swift
molten solstice
So what is the best iris libre ship,and after that what is the best italian one
viscid swift
for what exactly?
molten solstice
I love her design so much
molten solstice
for what exactly?
Pvp
viscid swift
main fleet or vanguard
hollow gust
for what exactly?
for all content its gonna be alsace lmao, and italian is aquila
mellow cape
Raffaello/Aquila I guess for Italian ships .. and most used Iris ship I've seen to date is Alsace
molten solstice
main fleet or vanguard
Main fleet
viscid swift
Alsace
none of the Italians are that relevant for PvP, I guess the closest would be Raffaello or Aquila
molten solstice
Thank you so much for the help
So i also noticed that my Tirpitz doesn't do damage for some reason like,at all,is it the gear's fault?
mellow cape
Compared to who
hollow gust
It's Tirpitz she has never been that good
viscid swift
So i also noticed that my Tirpitz doesn't do damage for some reason like,at all,...
gear might not be helping but Tirpitz's damage is poor anyway
molten solstice
I see...i guess she is gonna get replaced by Bismarck zwei soon
..... Look i only use her because she is traditional...
mellow cape
Wdym traditional
molten solstice
Old ib ship,from the time i started playing and i wanted only ib ships at the time,still today that's the case
molten solstice
good thing she reruns soon then
For real,the cube grind is gonna be big
viscid swift
remember you get 44 free build tickets for UR reruns
molten solstice
did you miss Fritz and Z52?
Yassss
viscid swift
shame
molten solstice
remember you get 44 free build tickets for UR reruns
What??how??also i started playing recently again so yeah
mellow cape
You might like the older PR IB ships with their new augments tho I'm not sure how saint Louis and Champagne's augments change the ships
viscid swift
What??how??also i started playing recently again so yeah
they changed the format of reruns, they now only last one week but now you get build tickets from playing the event
1 build ticket = 1 build on the event
molten solstice
And it counts
viscid swift
and it counts toward pity
molten solstice
And the pity should be 200 yes?
boreal wagon
and ever since reruns dont add new ships and dont change their shops
viscid swift
that as well
molten solstice
so 312 cubes worst case scenario
I hope i can manage it till the rerun i have 20 cubes in my name
boreal wagon
except its a collab rerun which still use the old format
viscid swift
well, Implacable reruns next week so Zwei is at least off a month off reruning still
molten solstice
Will they have any new sr ib ship too?like,the ones i missed
viscid swift
they'll be using more updated versions of the perma pools so probably
molten solstice
I see
God I'm afraid i will miss it now,how tf im i supposed to get 260 cubes in one month
viscid swift
not sure what you missed but
viscid swift
God I'm afraid i will miss it now,how tf im i supposed to get 260 cubes in one m...
you're guranteed 168 a month
boreal wagon
level 125 emden spotted
viscid swift
you can easily make 200 at least if you're active and you should have returning player missions which is an additional 100 cubes in 2 weeks irrc
molten solstice
not sure what you missed but
God freaking damn...
molten solstice
you can easily make 200 at least if you're active and you should have returning ...
I guess i have to try my best
thank you for the help 
viscid swift
no problem
dreamy blade
how often (if at all) do they add new perma events?
viscid swift
at least every other month it seems like these days
unless you mean those skin events
dreamy blade
yeah those ones
atomic abyss
loooooooooong while
molten solstice
Guys any french ships rerun this year??i ask for a friend
mellow cape
Have you checked out / gotten the PR French ships?
molten solstice
Have you checked out / gotten the PR French ships?
Pr french ships??
molten solstice
Clemenceau might rerun this year but that's about it
Do you have knowledge about any new french event?
tame jungle
no we do not
viscid swift
nope
we don't really know about any new events until about a week or 2 before they drop
molten solstice
Okkkk,sorry for the lots of questions
molten solstice
Yes!!!!! :3
carmine heath
does fdg's odd/even barrage skill proc on her first barrage
boreal wagon
do you mean her thing with firing odd/even salvos? in which case its active from the start as the even version yes
white agate
is the new meta fight fun?
viscid swift
not really, just another damage check pretty much
ancient burrow
i wanted to help a friend with his opsi fleets and thought of some based on his dock, would it be ok to share them here if they're fine? 
sweet delta
if 60% hit rate main fleet is fun
sweet delta
i wanted to help a friend with his opsi fleets and thought of some based on his ...
yes, make a thread 🧵to keep it organized
knotty dome
has anybody seen this in OPSI before? i'm pretty sure it's usually 3 out and 1 in, i've never seen 1 in 2 out and there's just a free tile
boreal wagon
it can happen for various reasons
cedar hawk
So I'm currently building Nelson and Kazagumo
Where would they go?
hollow gust
kick out warspite , and norfolk
eugen should be leftmost, and your BBs are center
cleveland to mob and you can use kazagumo in your boss fleet
ancient burrow
yes, make a thread 🧵to keep it organized
it wouldnt be a problem cuz the dock is my friend's? im just a messenger rn
undone plover
that is fine dont worry
storm heron
as long as it isn't a shared account it's fine yeah
viscid swift
yeah
ancient burrow
OpSiren help (for a friend)
worldly pewter
So I'm currently building Nelson and Kazagumo
Where would they go?
based on these levels are u sure that they have proper gear to function 
?
cedar hawk
based on these levels are u sure that they have proper gear to function <:KearTh...
I often don't have the time to study this so I often pick what looks like it would work
College is draining
glossy granite
I often don't have the time to study this so I often pick what looks like it wou...
Also your New jersey isnt maxed LB?
cedar hawk
Also your New jersey isnt maxed LB?
LB?
glossy granite
Limit break
cedar hawk
Limit break
Not yet
Not enough Bulins
glossy granite
Not yet
Not enough Bulins
Waiting to get 4 UR bullins at once is optimal but is New jersey the only UR you got?
cedar hawk
Waiting to get 4 UR bullins at once is optimal but is New jersey the only UR you...
Nope
worldly pewter
3 perma and 2 new ur is a little bit unusual
here we advise to mlb the perma ur with the pity dupes
i m with mlb nano with ur bulins because she is giga cracked
storm heron
im with magi
worldly pewter
yeah here it is either amagi or raff
i only advise mlb sinano with bulins for the active players
glossy granite
This is what i call when you make up your own things ig
Playing the game as if you created it lol
limpid dock
what gun would be best to use on raff ?
dusty tulip
what gun would be best to use on raff ?
mobbing bb gun; so 457mm, 410mm
you want her to deal good dmg against mob node waves if you want her on mob fleet
as for bossing, her dmg is comparable to fdg. so nowadays she won't cut it on bb bossing fleets in opsi
but if she's one of yout best options then gear her as you would gear any other UR BB
woven star
Raff second skill get some changes or it's just bad translation in game? Nvm. "her"/"their" almost the same
limpid dock
mobbing bb gun; so 457mm, 410mm
you want her to deal good dmg against mob node w...
the 410 being daisen gun right ?
simple marten
Is Prinz Adalbert better than Duisburg or is it the other way around?
sweet delta
the 410 being daisen gun right ?
sweet delta
Is Prinz Adalbert better than Duisburg or is it the other way around?
adalbert tanks better, duisburg damages better
limpid dock
okay i did not know about purple 410s, thanks
formal thicket
hello, i was wondering what "fate simulation" is in the shipyard?
forest palm
essentially 5 extra dev levels with a skill upgrade, and some extra stats
DRs get 2 skill upgrades, PR get 1 skill upgrade
woven star
406 will be better unless you don't have it. 410 more about Musashi
formal thicket
DRs get 2 skill upgrades, PR get 1 skill upgrade
I see thanks, but how do i exactly do i unlock it, cause i cant find where to unlock beyond dev lvl 30.
forest palm
I see thanks, but how do i exactly do i unlock it, cause i cant find where to un...
Agir, DR5, DR6, and PR7 (all) do not have Fate Sim
formal thicket
Agir, DR5, DR6, and PR7 (all) do not have Fate Sim <:ShiWoke:1023947351414558750...
okay i was trying on agir thats why! thanks
hot warren
frank pulsar
slightly yea, but their difficulty is also higher
nocturne glade
having trouble beating opsi story with my fleets, anything going particularly wrong?
or maybe a levels issue
nocturne glade
I guess ill go back to 12-4 and level some more then, ty!
viscid swift
for now forget about trying to run 4 flees and concentrate your best ships into 2 fleets
nocturne glade
gotcha
So instead of trying for a mediocre CV and BB fleet, I'll just condense them into 1 and make a better mobbing fleet asw then
viscid swift
yes
nocturne glade
great, ty!
tawdry halo
for now forget about trying to run 4 flees and concentrate your best ships into ...
Did I cook
spare epoch
i just clear the story, and just grind almost everything, is this consider done for opsi, i cant beat hard arbiter yet
viscid swift
Did I cook
that's about standard
I wouldn't have used San Diego over Helena but you've commited
tropic tusk
The only URs I'm missing are Kronshtadt,Implacable,Bismarck Zwei,Unzen. Should I mlb the new french BB or wait imp?
bold surge
i just clear the story, and just grind almost everything, is this consider done ...
Bottom right you see Exploration Progress 74/360
viscid swift
i just clear the story, and just grind almost everything, is this consider done ...
mostly, still have dailies to do and AP to burn though
spare epoch
how do i burn ap, just redo a zone to get all the stars ?
viscid swift
spend AP repeating zone pretty much
spare epoch
tawdry halo
I wouldn't have used San Diego over Helena but you've commited
... do I just save up for Helena then?
viscid swift
yeah, you'll want her anyway for later on in the game
tropic tusk
The only URs I'm missing are Kronshtadt,Implacable,Bismarck Zwei,Unzen. Should I...
Any tips
raven canyon
Is finishing the OS campaign important for OS grinding
spare epoch
im missing quite alot of URs, havent been playing much
soft raft
Is finishing the OS campaign important for OS grinding
You need to clear chapter 4 to unlock the monthly reset and clear chapter 5 to unlock the monthly arbiter fight
monthly reset means your shop is switched to the newer one and the monthly arbiter drops selector crates you can use, often on Electronics
tawdry halo
im missing quite alot of URs, havent been playing much
I think you should try to make one or two good URs and limitbreak them than collecting a bunch of URs
raven canyon
i see
tawdry halo
I'mma go get some new roles brb
soft raft
🆗
tawdry halo
back
soft raft
im missing quite alot of URs, havent been playing much
Doesnt matter
technically you can clear the game without URs, but they just make your life alot easier
Dont bother raising URs right now if you cant even MLB them yet
spare epoch
I think you should try to make one or two good URs and limitbreak them than coll...
yep, im lacking in blueprints for dev 30 hakuryuu
tawdry halo
something is wrong and I can feel it
soft raft
raven canyon
KMS
soft raft
#al-general or #al-art is that way if you want to post art
spare epoch
i havent bother clear >world 13 yet, i think i can clear up to world 14 with all my ship
tawdry halo
<#528197562998718474> or <#468719321087082516> is that way if you want to post a...
oopsie, thank you
cunning storm
I finally have enough prototype cores for one ur gear. Which should I buy
soft raft
i havent bother clear >world 13 yet, i think i can clear up to world 14 with all...
not really with those lvls
and you can do /w15 in #bot-spam to get a good idea of what works since you can just reverse engineer W15 fleets for W14
zenith heron
does Jintsuu Meta have any use on EX, Opsi Bosses, or Meta Fights other than pvp?
soft raft
does Jintsuu Meta have any use on EX, Opsi Bosses, or Meta Fights other than pvp...
Probably, depends on what your dock is like
but PvP is where she shines the most and has the least amount of competition
viscid swift
The only URs I'm missing are Kronshtadt,Implacable,Bismarck Zwei,Unzen. Should I...
you could either way tbh though if you have a Dev 3o Nahkimov and Eldridge retro I'd lean more towards Alsace
zenith heron
Probably, depends on what your dock is like
but PvP is where she shines the most...
well that is sad, was hoping she has some niche uses then, thanks for that
viscid swift
does Jintsuu Meta have any use on EX, Opsi Bosses, or Meta Fights other than pvp...
you was used quite heavily in Rodney META fleets
stark quiver
does Jintsuu Meta have any use on EX, Opsi Bosses, or Meta Fights other than pvp...
yes
shes the top EX torp bote, because of her skill
hollow gust
Rodney ?
zenith heron
will take note once I get her then 
I just don't like some ship that is only best on at least one content that as much as I won't use it on the next, but it is what it is...
Good thing EX exist then 
viscid swift
she's CL torp tech if nothing else
stark quiver
will take note once I get her then <:Noteshiro:911039555904368650>
I just don'...
you will do pvp
spare epoch
who do I want to level for harder content: hard arbiter, w14, w15
and im currently grinding opsi for gear labs mats to have some good gear too
zenith heron
you will do pvp
retired from that a long time ago, just using her to get currency despite already had enough
spare epoch
thks for your help
clear harbor
Is it worth it to buy extra subs from the guild shop? I just have the one sub you get from the campaign.
ivory pawn
No. You just need to raise that one sub enough to do the level 65 sub raid at some point, then you can forget about subs until you manage to get some good subs.
sinful escarp
flasher archerfish albacore
or
u-81 u-96 u-37
zenith heron
flasher archerfish albacore
or
u-81 u-96 u-37
Top is superior in everyway hence the word Fishpack
sinful escarp
these are the sub fleet that are being used
the top one is better
the problem though is flasher(the one needed for fishpack) is not available
though tbh sub fleet arent that important
after you clear the lvl65 sub raid with the one you have just wait for flasher rerun and build the fishpack
whole stump
what does it mean by destroy? i disassembled and i didn't get it
wait i'm so tired nvm
sweet delta
Is it worth it to buy extra subs from the guild shop? I just have the one sub y...
Level 70 I-58 with +10 purple gear can solo it https://youtu.be/cxC2Iy4XVfE
How good is 2 or 3 BB at oneshotting jintsuu showdown?
viscid swift
I would wager not very well without oaths at least
stone sluice
So sextuples got totally powercrept by the rainbow 76mm, right?
stark quiver
no
forest palm
more like all AA guns
really though it's more of a STAAG power creep if anything
it's also better than the 57 iirc
trim bloom
Which UR AA gun should I craft? I have neither
eternal moth
Which UR AA gun should I craft? I have neither
You really asked that literally right after someone explained which AA gun to choose?
trim bloom
Oh I didn't read mb
subtle grotto
all UR reruns are a must if you dont have the ship yet
are the shop the same each rerun
how often do these happen?
sinful escarp
also implacable is a staple for CV fleet because of her movement stopping skill
shops are the same for any rerun
its maybe 2 years-ish for a ship to rerun
sharp pine
Is ch 14 the world with the shielded suicide boats? What's the strat with them? Strong BB secondary guns and gun vanguard?
eternal moth
Implacable is the only UR CV in Tier EX due to her usability if that helps.
subtle grotto
Implacable is the only UR CV in Tier EX due to her usability if that helps.
will there be free construction
or will I have to sacrifice my 70 cubes with hopes and dreams
eternal moth
Yeah, there should be around 44 free tickets since it's a rerun
sweet delta
Is ch 14 the world with the shielded suicide boats? What's the strat with them? ...
Fdg, Musashi, biszwei, raffaello are the usual picks. Mob fleet is one BB, Unicorn, and 4 good ships
subtle grotto
can you only get UR from events
sinful escarp
after some time, they get added in permanent pool but its NOT worth it to pull for them
subtle grotto
after some time, they get added in permanent pool but its NOT worth it to pull f...
oh
sinful escarp
just let the pity fill up with the daily 1 light build
eternal moth
There are a few that are permanent now; you can get those by doing a total of 400 cubes worth of pulls in non-UR events and normal pools, but as mentioned, it's not worth going for them specifically. Just do 1 light build a day outside of events and you'll get them eventually.
subtle grotto
just let the pity fill up with the daily 1 light build
I've been doing heavy because I need a better heavy ship aside from eugen
sinful escarp
just use portland man
eternal moth
What chapter are you on?
subtle grotto
What chapter are you on?
like 7
eternal moth
I used Portland as my single tank until chapter 10.
subtle grotto
I used Portland as my single tank until chapter 10.
do I retrofit her
I'm broke on retrofit prints
narrow arch
Is there a good way to grind wisdom cubes at level 40
I'm at 50 and I have the feeling my luck is gonna be bad for implacable
ivory pawn
Just keep consistently doing the daily missions, and prioritize cube commissions when they pop up.
sharp pine
Daily and weekly missions and commissions
narrow arch
Alr
eternal moth
I'm at 50 and I have the feeling my luck is gonna be bad for implacable
You don't grind for them, you get them from dailies and weeklies for the most part.
subtle grotto
You don't grind for them, you get them from dailies and weeklies for the most pa...
Is there a limit to cubes
sharp pine
You might get lucky and be able to get a cube from the exchange shop for coins or merit points, but don't count on it. Don't burn gems on cubes, it's not worth it.
topaz sundial
which META elite is worth my leveling and using?
spare epoch
Yeah, there should be around 44 free tickets since it's a rerun
niceeeee
narrow arch
Yeah, there should be around 44 free tickets since it's a rerun
Wait what does this mean?
eternal moth
You can get tickets that will be used instead of cubes for pulls.
narrow arch
sweet delta
There will be build tickets scattered across time and space for you to earn or buy
viscid swift
which META elite is worth my leveling and using?
none of them besides tech
narrow arch
How many reruns until she becomes part of the non limited ur pool?
viscid swift
we've known for almost a month...
sinful escarp
there are build tickets btw
stark quiver
you also have 44 tickets
so like 290ish cubs to go
glossy granite
we've known for almost a month...
You mean for 2 months lol, but im just happy its finally announced
viscid swift
what no
glossy granite
It was expected right after Yorktown II?
viscid swift
expected, but not confirmed until the last stream
glossy granite
or im playing a different game idk
Just inshallah i get Implaccable, all i can say
spare epoch
oh nice, i cant wait to get Implaccable
subtle grotto
You mean for 2 months lol, but im just happy its finally announced
wait how do you know which reruns come next
hollow gust
They said it in stream
topaz sundial
does certificate of sponsor also apply to bismarck zwei?
viscid swift
yes
unreal star
can you run nakhimov and implacable in the same fleet or are they redundant?
hollow gust
I won't recommend it
nimble knoll
Is this good to replace the black shell?
shadow yarrow
What are ways of getting t3 stones
For example does the ops arbiter drop em
nimble knoll
Thx
nimble knoll
Is this good to replace the black shell?
Should I put this on my Raff Or Nelson? (Mob and Boss Respectively)
river junco
What are ways of getting t3 stones
For example does the ops arbiter drop em
t3 augment module stones? pretty much just do the weekly module development daily raid, opsi arbiter drops module cores, not t3 stones
stark quiver
uhh raff i guess?
hybrid pelican
Hi, guys, i have a question
is it true that izumo is bad? heard she was not worth getting due tu space dock
hybrid pelican
so she is not bad?
hollow gust
Shes not bottom tier but you can do so much better with similar resources
viscid swift
no
sweet delta
ignore 1500 protocore to save 1 dock space 
forest palm
robust jasper
Is the 1771 Nas fairly firefly good?
stark quiver
no
robust jasper
Alr
woven star
Should I put this on my Raff Or Nelson? (Mob and Boss Respectively)
If you have one of this better use it on mob fleet.
whole stump
never done opsi before how do i change my fleet lol
stark quiver
whole stump
LOL thankss
hallow mountain
Will the rerun event have a wishing well?
stark quiver
cn anni in may
hallow mountain
damn
also is there a way to use Enty's old chibi
i don't like this
clearly so much better
hybrid pelican
its this year no? she is 2 years old?
narrow arch
Idk
How many reruns do ships go through before they become part of the ur pool indefinitely
stark quiver
How many reruns do ships go through before they become part of the ur pool indef...
maybe a year
narrow arch
maybe a year
I see
eternal moth
is double fire radars good for poverty equip?
Assuming you mean for BBs, you want white shell and FCR instead.
White shell comes from IJN boxes
Or at least the purple one does. Gold version is better and comes from core data.
astral oar
Assuming you mean for BBs, you want white shell and FCR instead.
what is fcr?
astral oar
These 2 are what you want
is whiteshell good on its own? i can only buy 1 and i dont have HPFCR and the admiral table
wind hazel
then just whiteshell+ whatever fp/hit aux you can get
or even just use autoloader, until you have something better
astral oar
okay 👍
cunning bison
after implac, what is the ur (new and rerun) path looking like
wind hazel
most likely new UR>bisZ
cunning bison
most likely new UR>bisZ
and after?
blissful hamlet
who's tankier plymouth or z52?
frank pulsar
z52
blissful hamlet
dreamy blade
analyze them to convert to protocore
thin nova
analyze them to convert to protocore
how?
I dont find a way to do it
btw, should I take this one on cat, the upgrade is cool but losing 3 lucks, idk about that
shell willow
go to depot
honest stirrup
luck is basically insignificant
thin nova
luck is basically insignificant
good to know
honest stirrup
oh
You should probably be glad to not have done this before, because analysing them is just better in the long term
lusty dirge
primal cape
I just got back into the game. I quit around the introduction of META ships.
Can anyone help me like what do I need to prioritize in doing.
lusty dirge
This is some of my ships that I have.
thin nova
You should probably be glad to not have done this before, because analysing them...
well, I heard you can dismantle those to get some valuable so I didnt, I just couldnt find where to dismantle them kekw
lusty dirge
This is the ship that I'm working on right now.
honest stirrup
I just got back into the game. I quit around the introduction of META ships.
Ca...
META ships aren't really an important deal by themselves although iirc the introduction of META ships also came with Operation Siren so you might want to look into it
thin nova
that Napoli skin now is a true limited kekw
primal cape
META ships aren't really an important deal by themselves although iirc the intro...
Yes I do remember Operation Siren I'm currently navigating through the game trying to get to know things 😅
Anything important that I should be doing?
thin nova
Dont know why CN Goverment decided to get risk of those, I swear Nakhimov skin is much lewder
woven star
This is some of my ships that I have.
you don't have Hakuryuu. maybe focused on her or Nakhimov in long perspective
honest stirrup
Yes I do remember Operation Siren I'm currently navigating through the game tryi...
I guess you can start by organising your dock into 4 "temporary" fleets for OpSi, then look on how to improve them, look into PR research in case a ships catches your eye (I advise going for PR of 6 or above because better ships and better gears)
nocturne glade
I do have her
wants mlb
woven star
Good. She + Shinano + Implac (soon)/AvG - Guam + Kazagumo +Mogador/Laff2/Sirius become your solid CV fleet
hazy musk
what are those picture and why i cant click on t
carmine heath
What's a good ship to dev for pr3?
honest stirrup
I can't read
honest stirrup
What's a good ship to dev for pr3?
Odin because she's pretty much the best BC in the game afaik, Cheshire is a good choice too
But I'm not sure why you'd bother with PR3 in the first place
carmine heath
Odin because she's pretty much the best BC in the game afaik, Cheshire is a good...
Mission 
woven star
Many URs without mlb. From what I've seen - Musashi definitely worth mlb. Not sure UvH and FdG good both in same fleet. Left NJ and Raff... Raff needs a lot UR bulins so idk
boreal wagon
what are those picture and why i cant click on t
they change her poses but sometimes it bugs out and u can click it, changing menus or restarting the game fixes it usually
woven star
@lusty dirge most CV build
Shinano+Amagi (CV)+ Haku/Implac/Avg - tank +Sirius + Kazagumo - for heavy
York 2+ Rumey + Implac/Avg/Independence - same vaguard ⬆️ - for light
3BBs - tank/Plymouth + Helena + Plym/Eldridge/Dps - for BBs fleet
z52 can be a tank or dps in any of that case
There is some exception but I don't see any of them in your dock
So something like that
lusty dirge
This is some of the ships I have
And if you want me to show like individual ships let me know.
woven star
you can create thread for more specification information
dreamy blade
vit2 mode change is good
thin nova
the other one no?
dreamy blade
seaplanes are not good
thin nova
oh, I saw its skill
dreamy blade
it's meant for the pr7 ship halford who is also not good
thin nova
rose cosmos
Finally implacable, time to retire my avp
woven star
Yeah 4 days left
tawny notch
Can I do pr ship data collection with meta ships? For example napoli with andrea meta
odd rootBOT
Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?
Yes
- Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
- Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
- Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
- Use faction filters in Dock to double check.
No
- EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
- META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.
carmine heath
For kearsage prints, is pr6 focus or just hope for karaage prints from other pr focus?
sinful escarp
if you want prints for a particular ship just focus on the series where that ship is from
nocturne glade
How large of a difference do adaptability stats make for OS? I get the mechanic, but I havent been getting them and I think it might be why I'm struggling
Currently at 116/142/102
alpine condor
after reaching 90 affinity with a ship from keeping her in dorms and keeping her in the first secretary spot, does it go further than 90 or not anymore?
boreal wagon
they make quite a significant difference
dreamy blade
secretary caps at 90
nocturne glade
after reaching 90 affinity with a ship from keeping her in dorms and keeping her...
doesnt go higher than 90 for secretary slit
boreal wagon
after reaching 90 affinity with a ship from keeping her in dorms and keeping her...
secretary caps at 90, dorm gives you like 1 point every 40 years
nocturne glade
they make quite a significant difference
I see, I guess ill go do all the ones on my map rq then. Ty!
tawny notch
no, meta ships are their own faction
I only got 2 sardegna empire and northern parliament main ships😭
dreamy blade
check merit shop https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#rn
for gangut/littorio
zenith heron
What is currently the best fleet to fight against Jintsuu Meta? BB or CV?
atomic abyss
What is currently the best fleet to fight against Jintsuu Meta? BB or CV?
If you don't have the anti light CV comp, BBs
zenith heron
CV it is then
atomic abyss
Anti light CV fleet also heavily depends on whether you have enough HVARs
Or rather rockets in general really
zenith heron
I am stuck with one Hvar only with Kear, the rest like Fritz and Yk2 only have the BFG and the Hvar Bomber
How about the frontline? Can it be only buffers?
dreamy blade
vanguard pressure isnt that high and ideally you would bring aurora
atomic abyss
tropic tusk
you could either way tbh though if you have a Dev 3o Nahkimov and Eldridge retro...
Nahk is like dev27 now
zenith heron
The loadouts are both the same with 1 Skyraider, but thanks
dreamy blade
if i have 1 skyraider and 2 hvars is it better to +13 the skyraider or both hvars i already have a +13 bf109g
zenith heron
well my fleet kills it in 2 tries which is alright, but you might question my fleet but I am open to corrections anyway
woven star
isn't skyraider the most slow DB? otherwise the biggest light damage
zenith heron
here's mine, feel free to correct it
atomic abyss
You have to calc the timings yourself tho
zenith heron
I know 2 fighters on fritz is too fast for yk2 to sync with, so I just went skyraider on her as well, will try to improve it on another time
22.98 on fritz, then 23.06 on Yk2
considering I have no la9 or more Hvarcats, I am stuck with bfg and Hvar bomber
atomic abyss
There is always option for beacon/manjuu
woven star
you already loose Kear buff after first launch
zenith heron
how long is even kear buff for cv's as the Shell hits?
boreal wagon
it lasts until she fires, not until she hits
molten zinc
only the shelling dmg last 10s
her aircraft debuff last until she fire her gun again
woven star
my bad. buff from main gun. it's not aircraft launch
fiery pelican
Should f2p keep elite ship? and which UR to max from these options?
woven star
you'll better make you own calculation.
sinful escarp
imo wait for implacable because you already have shinano and amagiCV
also if you want to retire ships get them to 120 first for their tech before retiring them
fiery pelican
Okay, probably will stop buying docks when I reach 350 slots
sinful escarp
no, keep buying them whenever you can
fiery pelican
I want to buy a skin from these free gems xD
sinful escarp
if you have 3 dorm slots+ 2ndfloor
worldly pewter
i started after unzen and i have 490 dock slots 
sinful escarp
bad idea
boreal wagon
you can buy skins for free gems if you really want to no one can stop you, its just not a recommended thing to do
woven star
"affected by an AA stat debuff" where this from? From Air Raid Assistance? What I found ARA damage buff not some kind of AA debuff
whole crypt
Yorktown II, Laffey II
copper glacier
Should f2p keep elite ship? and which UR to max from these options?
I'd max Kronshadt and/or Z52 next. And some elite ships are good in endgame, but not many of them.
boreal wagon
Yorktown II, Laffey II
(+ a few more)
copper glacier
You can use the EN tier list to figure out which ships have good/useful ratings if you want.
woven star
seems Kear+York2+Fritz needs some synch. Kear next weapon will fire in 19.4 sec after York2 launch while York2 AA debuff 12 sec long
or maybe I'm something miss
shell willow
12s after this effect activates, ... - ... launches another AD-1 Skyraider squadron
woven star
oh I see. that's all about question if Kear no needs any HPFCR for synch
vale gyro
How often do new skins get released?
Is it completely random?
silk sphinx
every event basically
and more often than that tbh. if you're asking for specific ships though...
that's semi random, in the sense that the devs and artists decide themselves who gets skins, and more popular ships get more, but for your own sake and sanity just assume it's random
vale gyro
that's semi random, in the sense that the devs and artists decide themselves who...
I see, thanks
solid hedge
Hi, why do idol ships don't give any tech stat bonus?
worldly pewter
event collabs and μ ships don't
boreal wagon
and children ships
as to why ask the devs (though with collabs its obvious why)
late flame
aaaaand bulins
boreal wagon
justice for bulins
solid hedge
But they still take dock spot and count towards collection rate....
jaunty vault
chat what gun do i give z52
boreal wagon
76 or 113
jaunty vault
ty
honest sequoia
is it ok to use DYK and Howe tgt in a mob fleet
boreal wagon
But they still take dock spot and count towards collection rate....
they do indeed but no one can really answer you why they choose to do it this way
mossy void
So what's gonna be the best fleet for hornet meta.
honest sequoia
How about hood n DYK
boreal wagon
ask again when we have her at level 15
jaunty vault
hood is ok, dork I still wouldn't recommend
silk sphinx
and children ships
as to why ask the devs (though with collabs its obvious why)
tbh, META ships didn't use to give fleet tech bonuses, so the logic was that only original ships would give bonuses, not alt versions. (Kaga (CV), Zwei and II versions are technically different ships in reality, just that in AL lore they're the same)
mossy void
ask again when we have her at level 15
Oh I know. I was just wondering in general. Unless that really can't be determined until then
honest sequoia
hood is ok, dork I still wouldn't recommend
this is my mob fleet for OpSI
any BB that can replace howe?
boreal wagon
tbh, META ships didn't use to give fleet tech bonuses, so the logic was that onl...
i dont remember a time in which META didnt give tech but that might just predate me
jaunty vault
just use a CV lol
worldly pewter
this is my mob fleet for OpSI
any BB that can replace howe?
use uni and indep
boreal wagon
my point more so was that we can't really give them a definitive answer to their question anyway
honest sequoia
use uni and indep
double healer?
south sequoia
meta didnt give tech prior to mid 2023
boreal wagon
that doesnt predate me
honest sequoia
use uni and indep
i dont have inde
worldly pewter
double healer?
do u use it for strongholds too ?
boreal wagon
my memory is weak smh
jaunty vault
i know what predates u
late flame
dinosaurs
honest sequoia
do u use it for strongholds too ?
yes i use mob fleet in strongholds too
to make siren boss low before i use my counter fleet
worldly pewter
so u do the 4 corners with them only
then it doesn't matter what u put
but better to have more cv for less lock
honest sequoia
so u do the 4 corners with them only
then it doesn't matter what u put
i auto search 😭
so ye
when my mob fleet dies to the last siren boss thats where i use my counter fleet
worldly pewter
auto research will do the stronghold boss too
boreal wagon
~~dinosaurs~~
arent you just as old
honest sequoia
when my mob fleet dies to the last siren boss thats where i use my counter fleet
^^
But idk who to replace howe
or should i just use a CV
worldly pewter
when my mob fleet dies to the last siren boss thats where i use my counter fleet
usually u want to build a mob fleet that doesn't die to the stronghold boss
worldly pewter
^^
But idk who to replace howe
or should i just use a CV
we aren't diviners to tell with which u can switch
honest sequoia
usually u want to build a mob fleet that doesn't die to the stronghold boss
my mob fleet only dies to stronghold boss during the early days of OpSi
cuz of corrosion level
silk sphinx
either rebuild just for strongholds, or get more tuning or heal while doing a stronghold with boxes
boreal wagon
stronghold's also allow you to leave - heal at port - and come back for no additional cost in the worst case scenario
honest sequoia
Like rn if theres a siren stronghold
my mob can kill everything
solid hedge
Hi, what pr blueprint best to buy in proto shop?
I have a lot of prototype core
honest sequoia
its only the early stage of OpSI
jaunty vault
u never buy ship BPs from protocore
boreal wagon
unless by blueprint you mean those
worldly pewter
my mob fleet only dies to stronghold boss during the early days of OpSi
cuz of c...
as lars said come back when u have more tuning
solid hedge
~~unless by blueprint you mean those~~
Gear blueprint I mean
boreal wagon
lixxy said that but yes
jaunty vault
Gear blueprint I mean
/protocore
silk sphinx
tbh some great mob fleets might have trouble in strongholds
triple cv with a bunch of preloads for instance could lead to really fast mob clears in most maps but flounder in strongholds
so you may want to either adjust the fleet comp just before strongholds, use your boss fleets for some nodes, or just get more tuning
jaunty vault
double preload CV doesn't do fast clears
silk sphinx
?
jaunty vault
all the preloads are used on the first wave
this is why we say you need stagger
well part of the reason
worldly pewter
yeah indep is the best to do that
silk sphinx
It kind of does, just difference is minimal. If the next wave spawns early because you killed all on screen mobs with vanguard ships in addition
boreal wagon
2 preloads from different ships just about work in opsi, but stagger is more ideal
silk sphinx
opsi mobs don't tend to be very strong so in many maps they die to a touch
a bunch of preloads with an aggressive vanguard can cut down clears to various sub 8s stuff
same reason i don't use bbs, since the animation itself takes time
sharp socket
i spend more time in the loading screens than in the fights 
boreal wagon
thats good you can reexperience halloween in march
silk sphinx
eh tbh when you're very endgame, anything works, so you just minmax a little for fun
jaunty vault
atago ass
rigid onyx
a bunch of preloads with an aggressive vanguard can cut down clears to various s...
i think that most 'speed' opsi fleets don't stack preloads and instead have staggered fast loaders
boreal wagon
they do indeed
woven star
You have not best bb weapon for bosses imho. I think you focused on barrages
jaunty vault
who
boreal wagon
the person the convo was about originally before we hijacked it
jaunty vault
oh the howe, dork and hod guy
woven star
Why 406 sk?
jaunty vault
cause mob fleet
late flame
ngl for a moment i was wondering if DYK was a new ship before realising it was dork
woven star
And your fleet dies on bosses?
late flame
opsi* mob fleet without unikai is just weird to me
jaunty vault
Percy is good
woven star
Ah. Sry not about you. To person who ask about Howe in strongholds
jaunty vault
and if the battles are short enough, it doesn't matter
late flame
got percy late and lacking arrays to 125 her anyway
jaunty vault
zoomers be like
silk sphinx
how are arrays your bottleneck... you must be 125ing a lot of ships
boreal wagon
they do indeed do that
silk sphinx
most would prob just 120 and dump
tawdry halo
Is this good or bad chat
kindred arrow
Bad ship, good tech
spring basin
how to change fleets in op si ? im just getting into it.
shell willow
spring basin
nice ty
fickle hollow
is chamapagne gun worth +13 or should i save gold plates for my UR guns (i have New jersey gun and Raffy gun )
frank pulsar
champy first
raffy gun and mk7 can both wait
green galleon
Who should I pick as my first choice in PR6?
frank pulsar
shimanto ig
doesnt rly matter though
fiery swan
I have an excess of purin and don't need them for revelations of dust replay as I have them all MLBed. I also am not lacking for top tier ships. In either case, I wish to MLB and raise some girls for dock space and affinity grinding, please help me choose the best use of my resources
jaunty glade
worldly pewter
I have an excess of purin and don't need them for revelations of dust replay as ...
level the good tech ships
if u mean SR bulins then it should be CV avi BB fp DD fp CL fp
fiery swan
level the good tech ships
if u mean SR bulins then it should be CV avi BB fp DD...
What is tech and why do I need it
(Genuinely curious)
worldly pewter
What is tech and why do I need it
(Genuinely curious)
tech is a mechanic in the game that lets u
unlock ships in the shipyard
unlock more stats when u reach certain thresholds for the eagle union royal navy sakura and iron blood
then raising each ship for its individual contribution to all of her hull type
for example if u raise yk2 all the CVs and CVLs get +2 avi in their stats that scales with buff skills
fiery swan
Isn't it the thing that only triggers at level 120 or something
green galleon
Are these fleets good enough for an Op siren?
worldly pewter
Isn't it the thing that only triggers at level 120 or something
not only although that is what i advised u to do earlier
tech points can be obtained when u get the ship and when u mlb also
tech stats are on obtain like for example maintz give CL fp on obtain and aquila CV/L rld
and at 120
fiery swan
Can I immediately benefit from tech buff upon MLB
worldly pewter
Are these fleets good enough for an Op siren?
opsi is an easy content but these can do everything except the hard arbiter
jaunty vault
Can I immediately benefit from tech buff upon MLB
tech stat bonus buff unlocks at max limit break of any ship, yes
it is based on the hull type of the ship
green galleon
What's Hard Arbiter again?
worldly pewter
when u defeat the boss in the center of the map
a hard version will spawn
mainly it increases the vouchers gain at the start of the next month
but also have a little bit of other resources like mat boxes and plate selectors
green galleon
Alright thanks, I didn't get to that part yet
fiery swan
L'Indomptable has a high eHP but can she actually tank
jaunty vault
she has high eHP?
shell willow
where?
cobalt rapids
Somewhere
zenith heron
frank pulsar
ive never heard of lil indomptable tank before
zenith heron
If it where like Jervis then yeah, But I doubt she would
frank pulsar
Are these fleets good enough for an Op siren?
with some redistribution of yr ships probably
fiery swan
fiery swan
Does this somehow mean that Sandy can tank too?
cobalt rapids
It does
sharp socket
tawdry halo
Thx
fiery swan
This also seems to imply that Z52 on the blue speed gun can tank better than Friedrich Carl who's on T0 Tank in ECTL
frank pulsar
ectl rankings are meaningless
fiery swan
And that Indomptable can also tank better than her
cobalt rapids
When u look at mebot ehp u should look at variance aswell
fiery swan
How to interpret variance?
cobalt rapids
Its + - to the ehp
frank pulsar
high ehp is one thing, but high variance also important to look at
e.g. lindomptable has 40% std
cobalt rapids
For ex indom could be like 70% - 150%
Depending where u use her aka not consistent at all
frank pulsar
lower std is better
fiery swan
Is that why my wall of china team took immense damage from pasta event SP even while overleveled and with unikai
cobalt rapids
tawdry halo
Are they good or bad
cobalt rapids
Bad
frank pulsar
Is that why my wall of china team took immense damage from pasta event SP even w...
could be gear issue
frank pulsar
generally great wall of china should be extremely tanky
cobalt rapids
Vauqelin is fp tech so worth keeping
fiery swan
Yat Sen was retro 125 with the plum thingy
frank pulsar
are you using together with ping hai and ning hai
fiery swan
I was using DDG + Harbin
frank pulsar
thats not great wall of china
tawdry halo
Vauqelin is fp tech so worth keeping
frank pulsar
regardless it shouldnt be getting low
sushi + uni + ply was enough for me to beat sp
cobalt rapids
Zuihou + z52 is enough
fiery swan
They were going to like half HP on the elites and it wasn't a gear issue because DDG had the four gods thing and Harbin was on repair kit and the gold washing machine thing
frank pulsar
then idk
ive never had survivability issues with yat sen before
fiery swan
Were the elites on HE
cobalt rapids
Its small wall of china 
frank pulsar
great wall refer to both ning hai and ping hai together
cobalt rapids
Refers to yat + 1 of em
sharp socket
theres different chinawalls
frank pulsar
less tanky version is yat sen + de ship
wind hazel
but then even yatsen shouldn't be low on her own, in SP with unicorn
atomic abyss
Wat