gameplay-help

[eternal basalt]

I use 4 farm fleets till I got all <risk 5 normal and hidden zones cleared

[slow barn]

how do I know what kind of armor my enemy has?

[eternal basalt]

You look it up on the wiki (atleast ingame it shows with bosses in opsi)

[silk helm]

why chicago and implac in fleet 1?

[sweet delta]

For bosses, https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[sweet delta]

Exp and cross fleet, respectively

[slow barn]

ty

[stark quiver]

soy nakh better for one strike?

[subtle herald]

what bb would i put the event gun on

[eager mulch]

sometimes the best choice is to not use the BB gun

[sweet delta]

your best BB when she's fighting a medium boss

[static oak]

Debating on either building Prototype Spearfishes or Wyverns. I know there are stats and details about using them, but my puny brain isnt comprehending it. So I wanna ask here; Which should I use for raw, pure damage. I'm assuming Spearfish unless there's smth more I'm missing.

And can anyone explain to me how I'd use both properly? I think I have the concept but I just wanna make sure

[eager mulch]

the gun is bis for medium armor

but I wouldn’t use it for light or heavy

[sweet delta]

they cost different materials. Spearfish takes away from your ability to build Tenrai/457

[viscid swift]

both are roughly the same performance wise but the Wyvern is relatively cheaper to make

[sweet delta]

Assuming you mean raw, pure damage for multiple enemies like in campaign, refer to this. Wyvern intercepts while Spearfish reloads faster

[static oak]

Both are the essentially same... interesting

So there's basically zero point in making it

[viscid swift]

they're not but the overall net performance is about the same is what I'm saying

there's distinct differences between the 2 for sure

[static oak]

Hmm. Alright

Cuz im debating if I wanna start creating Spearfishes for the rocket dmg

[viscid swift]

unless you're swimming in T2 and T3 ordinance reports just go for wyverns

[static oak]

understood. Just one more thing and then ill stop, sorry I keep asking about em lol

If I do create them, would you reckon they'd be better for mobbing or bossing

[sweet delta]

they're not exactly for rocket damage

[static oak]

Ye I know. But Ik they got rockets and torps

[worldly pewter]

can be considered when thinking about stagger in campaign ?

[sweet delta]

for single target bosses, converging TBs are better assuming you have the fleets setup to let them hit. Spearfish only matches converging TBs against light bosses at the same enhancement level, and they cost 3x the gold plates

[viscid swift]

I've not seen anything thus far to suggest that stagger makes a significant difference

[viscid swift]

they're pretty much only used for campaign and mobbing

[worldly pewter]

because when the clear difference between them is the reload time i thought about stagger

[static oak]

Hmm, alrighty

seems like i'm better off just saving the ordinance reports for smth else

Alr. Tysm!

[viscid swift]

the stagger is definitely there, what I'm saying is I've not scene anything to suggest that stagger makes a difference

because more stagger doesn't in it of itself make a difference in clear times/wave clearing

[worldly pewter]

being fast does it overall then

[viscid swift]

the stagger needs to result in something like the first and 2nd airstrike not overlapping and hitting 2 different waves and such

if the airstrikes already do the latter, then making them even further apart doesn't necessarily do anything

[spring basin]

does the copy loadout feature not work on bluestacks ?

[viscid swift]

there's a lot more nuances that argument which I don't really wanna delve into but suffice to say I've not scene anything no matter who it comes from to see the Spearfish's cost be justified

[mild sail]

Need help optimize the fleet

[soft raft]

What is Vanguard doing in a CV comp

[sage garden]

isn't using 125 lvl ships in ops is a waste of exp?

[forest palm]

yesn't

[novel solstice]

The boss fleets aren't going to get much XP anyway, and at some point you're a lot more limited by cog chips than by XP.

[mild sail]

1 is for boss, 2 is for mob
3 and 4 is just for crossfleet but I want them to be more useful

[soft raft]

That assumes the XP gain in OpSi is even worth it for 99% of players to care

Technically it's extremely efficient as it costs 0 oil but the actual gain is abysmally snall

[forest palm]

it all depends on what you want to do, you can ignore the xp, or just soak it into ships you want to level

[sage garden]

well I'm working on lvling up every ssr and ur ship at least up to 120

[mild sail]

Should I make a thread

[sage garden]

made this my goal at 2020

[mild sail]

Opsiren fleet building

[eternal basalt]

Then you find out you have no chips

[agile sky]

whats the priority between gold bp, cog array and meta crystals?

[sweet delta]

In my humble opinion, don't buy Doria meta crystals until the event ends in case she drops again

And then it would be array > meta if you want to use her > rainbow bp > gold bp

#other-games

[brazen hornet]

Oh.. I did not just do that... * Sigh *

[eternal basalt]

cog array > gold bp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meta crystals

[whole stump]

just got this from my daily one, is she better than my current frontline units?

[sweet delta]

better when maxed, but not worth maxing. Leave on the bench

and i think your daily should be on Event, not Light

[whole stump]

oh wut

did i pull on the wrong one haha

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this

nothing in the light pool currently would replace of the vanguards in the starter fleet

at best they'd be set aside for the 2nd fleet in near future

[silk sphinx]

2Qs.

1. Has gph settled on raff for the most part as the nickname?
2. I'd like to confirm that she's useless if you have all the UR BBs, have cleared w15, and use a triple cv mob fleet

[viscid swift]

no, and harsh but pretty much sums up my sentiments

[sweet delta]

yes to Q2 but BB FP is BB FP

[viscid swift]

apparently she's good for 15-1 farming

[stark quiver]

i call her new UR BB (subject to change)

[dreamy blade]

I'm from the future and she's useful for w16 and w15 hard

[silk sphinx]

well she's close to 125 anyways ig i'll just finish her

[viscid swift]

I'm tempted to just call her ralph

[silk sphinx]

ew

[stark quiver]

red ninja turtle

[torn locust]

raffaello gun good on anyone else?

[stark quiver]

best for medium armor targets

[rustic adder]

Wait ppl farm on w15?

[rigid onyx]

15-1 is good for cogs

[forest palm]

You can level like 2~ ships in 15-1

[rustic adder]

Hows the exp/oil compared to 11-1?

Ive just been mashing 11-1 since i only have frontline ships left to lvl

[rigid onyx]

11-1 is the most efficient for xp/oil but gives no cog chips

By only frontline ships left to level you have all main fleet tech done?

[rustic adder]

I have 4 total backlines left not lvl 120

Including ones with no tech

And like 80 frontlines

[stark quiver]

[rigid onyx]

usually when people are done with main fleet they move onto 13-1, 14-1, 15-1 etc because they

1. are gatekept by cogs
2. can use completed main fleet to carry vanguards

[stark quiver]

11-1 gives better xp/oil
15-1 gives worse xp/oil and also gives cogs

[rigid onyx]

but if you have no issues with cogs somehow you can do 11-1 ig..?

[rustic adder]

I maintain like 3-4k cogs by being a whel

Oil is also an issue so il keep doing 11-1

11-1 prob also better for affection farming

[polar lion]

People buy cogs with gems?

[stark quiver]

[vale kite]

ok i need help making a decision, I do not have a usable DD except for javelin..
and i am trying to MLB z52, however i got 3 copies of raffaello and now she's at 5/6...

for BB i got these

I can MLB z52 or raffaello not both.. the other will have to wait for a long time

[carmine heath]

Z52

[sweet delta]

The answer is no doubt raffaello

[vale kite]

oh

conflicting opinions :D..
can you help me understand the thought process behind your answers?

[sweet delta]

Main fleet is more impactful than vanguard

That already puts raff up. As a bonus, you're up 2 bulins for implacable or the next UR

[carmine heath]

z52 is a versatile vanguard that also does insane damage

actually how did you get to this point without a useable dd, fu shun?

[vale kite]

idk i never look at the classifcations tbh

[carmine heath]

As a bonus you can use her in tank slot if youre really desperate

[finite crag]

i didnt know having a good dd was a requirement for progressing

[uneven girder]

Which ship should i choose next? Shinano is already mlb

[stark quiver]

nj is bb fp
and uvh is bb rld

[sweet delta]

When is Vanguard expected to be added

[stark quiver]

maybe this summer?

u can ask again when u have exchange available, and maybe we'll be close to vanguard archive

[sweet delta]

April I'd wager. Just pick UvH or NJ now for tech points or tech stat

[vale kite]

@sweet delta is it okay to have a DDless team (or a shitty one as a placeholder)

[stark quiver]

ddless teams are normal

[vale kite]

and would it be better to have the DD for mobs or bosses?

[stark quiver]

whatever wants a dd

[vale kite]

i dont know who needs it, do you mean as a requirment of the stage?

[ivory pawn]

Vanguard ship type isn't super important. Who the ship is and what they can do matter more.

[stark quiver]

whoever fullfills the role best, it can be a dd,cl,ca, etc

[vale kite]

cool

thank you all

[eager mulch]

3 good ships >

[dreamy blade]

if agir has most of her bulk at d25 should i switch to coining haku to fs5? or take agir to d30

[forest palm]

Dev 30 is still better

[whole stump]

what do i do with the multiple copies of ships i get?

[dreamy blade]

use them for enhancing

retire the extra blues and purples

[strange dragon]

Hey everyone ! Can you please give me some advice on which hero to use/focus? Do i still need to retrofit Portland and Pennsylvania ? I still have 2x MKIII and 1x MKII

[dreamy blade]

portland yes, penn doesnt have a retrofit

dont use non mlb ships just bc theyre gold/UR rarity

[strange dragon]

Hmmm sry i meant do ia have to up them? My SR are not better?

[dreamy blade]

they are not bc theyre not maxed

mlb portland with retro >>> 0 LB eugen

[whole stump]

what does mlb mean?

[dreamy blade]

max limit break

[strange dragon]

ATM i don't really use her, i mainly use my fleet 1

[stone sluice]

Ise and Hyuuga ain’t worth retrofitting but for collection?

[sweet delta]

Dont retrofit portland until you need to for rookie missions. I notice a severe lack of unicorn. Retrofit unicorn first

[dreamy blade]

yes level and raise unicorn, she will replace shinano in your fleet

[strange dragon]

i just bought 2x unicorn after reading a beginners tip ^^

im starting to levelling her

[whole stump]

@strange dragon how long have you been playing for? i just started today lol

[strange dragon]

i don"t really remember, maybe like 3 weeks

[whole stump]

ohh okay no wonder you're so much far ahead than me haha

[strange dragon]

i installed the game on 22 february exactly

[dreamy blade]

also since you already have aldabert MLB and oathed you wont really need portland except to complete the rookie missions

[strange dragon]

do i use my MKIIIs on Shinano or i wait?

[dreamy blade]

MKIIIs?

[strange dragon]

Bullin MKIII

[dreamy blade]

no, perma URs will eventually get maxed from the standard pity

[strange dragon]

Specialized Bullin

[dreamy blade]

UR bulins are for new URs

[strange dragon]

Event ones?

[dreamy blade]

like from the current event banner, if you were to pull raff then she would take those bulins

[strange dragon]

Is meta Bolzano any good? I see her down the tierlist

was thinking about replacing her with kiev

my kiev will be mlb soon

[whole stump]

question since i got 0 ammo now if i restart the stage and only focus on killing boss will i get the defeat all enemies star still?

[strange dragon]

nope you need to do it in 1 run

but you can fight with 0ammo

[whole stump]

bruh i only got +1 ammo from the resupply thing

[strange dragon]

0ammo mean less damage from you

[whole stump]

ill tryy

[rustic adder]

u can prob still win, idk ur lvls

[sweet delta]

Tap these icons

[rigid onyx]

out of ammo doesnt mean you cant fight, just a large damage reduction (50%)

[hybrid pelican]

how good is taihou meta?

[sweet delta]

About as good or bad as augmented taihou

[strange dragon]

?

[hybrid pelican]

which means?

[sweet delta]

Which means worse than enterprise

[whole stump]

shiiiiiiet

[sweet delta]

For most intents and purposes

[hybrid pelican]

Is enterprise better than any of the UR cvs?

[sweet delta]

No

[rigid onyx]

she's on par with haku before fs5

but dev 30

[sweet delta]

But MLB enterprise would be better than most 5 star or lower UR CVs

[sweet delta]

About as good as Portland

[strange dragon]

so kiev would be better?

[worn quest]

should i mlb york town II or fritz first?

[dreamy blade]

depends on what other URs you have but probably fritz

or save for implac

[sweet delta]

Kiev is a much worse tank than either of them. Kiev can do more damage

[worn quest]

i have yuudachi, Z52, Raffaello, and Friedrich, idk if she counts

[strange dragon]

actually my vanguard fleet is Adalbert Bremerton Bolzano Meta

[rigid onyx]

for a new player that sounds ill advised

[strange dragon]

and bolzano seems my worst

[rigid onyx]

mlb'ing ships is a large percentage of power and stacking a ton of gold ships requires a few bulins. There's also likely better/cheaper options for you

although this is assuming you're new

[sweet delta]

They already MLB adal and brem, level 90

[sweet delta]

Fritz, would be a waste to keep a level 125 ship at half her power

[dreamy blade]

either fritz or raff then, im leaning towards fritz since you dont have any UR cvs but you at least have fdg for bb

but raff would be a solid choice too since gold CV options are pretty good compared to gold BBs

oh shes already 125 yeah just mlb her

[worn quest]

so do i just buy the specialized bullins only from the proto shop?

ty

[neon egret]

should I put perseus in my mob fleet or boss fleet?

[rustic adder]

mob

[rigid onyx]

mob iff you arent using uni

[neon egret]

I see. So who should i replace with perseus. My mob fleet is Amagi CV, Unicorn, and Hakuryuu for main, and Hindenburg, Scylla, and Friedrich Carl for Vanguard

[hybrid pelican]

so is unicorn better than perseus?

[stark quiver]

for battles more than 20s yes

[rigid onyx]

if you are using unicorn there is not point in adding percy

[soft raft]

wouldnt really bother using Perseus at that point
especially if that Unicorn is retrofitted

there's basically no difference between the two outside of Perseus's +90% longer reload time becomes much more obvious in late campaign

[neon egret]

guess i can just slot her in my farming fleet

[rigid onyx]

also what dev level is your hindenburg? She's really mediocre without dev30

[neon egret]

yeah she's maxed out

she's using the yelow prototype triple 203 SK C/34 and the UR prototype triple 203 main

she had the UR 203/55, but im using it on Unzen

[zenith heron]

Is AvP's skill really a complete freeze? Since it was labeled as "Gradually reduce speed to 0 by 2.5 seconds"?

So it means its just a 100% slow like Implacable then rather than a "complete freeze"?

[rustic adder]

pretty sure its a freeze, but the delay is annoying

[sweet delta]

It is a stun like implacable's

[rigid onyx]

a 100% slow is essentially coded as a stun apparently, because otherwise it would be affected by slow cap

[wary skiff]

at what dev level is nakhimov worth using?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your other options, 25 or 30

[forest palm]

Wouldn't bother till 30

[cobalt gate]

what is the chance of getting burned in chapter 14?

[rapid grail]

a lot lollll
deal with the BBs and you decrease burn dmg

[fervent temple]

test Fw-190 G-3/R1 in 15-4 boss
1st time manual try aim to shootdown plane
Rumey somehow get PVP event thought she equip pure fighter plane

2 rd auto
Raffaello beat Rumay a little in PVP
but Rumey somehow has 50% more kill count which many should be plane

mean her auto are better than my manual 😦

[hollow gust]

Why fw in mob

[fervent temple]

only on boss

[rigid onyx]

why are u using fw in a non support fleet

[quartz breach]

What are the "anomalous zones" mentioned in Operation Siren? Are they those siren-held fortresses where you gotta beat up four siren bosses then one especially tough boss?

[dreamy blade]

for the perform recon tasks? theyre the tiles that give you adap stats when you step on them

usually next to the directional arrow tiles

[viscid swift]

also I presume you mean PvE

but anyway, what exactly is your point with this?

[eager mulch]

[quartz breach]

Lemme doublecheck something rq.

[fervent temple]

for test i want see how it gonnabe 😛

[quartz breach]

Huh?

[fervent temple]

sorry wrong reply

[fervent temple]

for test i want see how it gonnabe

[dreamy blade]

yes those are from these things

[quartz breach]

Huh, so once I get those Adaptive Tuning rewards, do recon or?

[dreamy blade]

getting the reward is the performing recon

[quartz breach]

Ohhh

[worn quest]

at what point in operation siren do i start getting materials for better gold gear? i kinda of dont know what im doing

[sweet delta]

You get more higher rarity materials from higher corrosion zones and special zones

It's better to do all of opsi than half of it every month.
And better to do the daily missions every day or at least every other day

[sudden briar]

How many Tenrai do I realistically need?
I have one right now.

[dreamy blade]

it also will depend on your cats since a decent portion of the mats is going to come from the cat tiles, and those rewards scale off their level + rarity

[hollow gust]

Two is sufficient

[sudden briar]

Humu. Sankyuu.

[glass basin]

does nagato meta count as IJN for shinano purposes

[polar raft]

Anyone know how good new ur is? I cant understand anything from her passives

[sweet delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1311466493292187648/1345136409035407432/C8769DAF-D482-45EC-BB99-3F86F12A6739.png?ex=67cf50e7&is=67cdff67&hm=809b57e3818ef2057fa08a004f3f9626985854480242d8513bd23cbcc5fcff9b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1753&height=604

[glass basin]

loadout ok for Queen Elizabeth meta fight?

[sweet delta]

one of the best mob BBs but a below average UR boss BB

[sweet delta]

do you have raised a high-damage vanguard META like Helena or Wichita?
And don't use beacons if it's not for timing

[glass basin]

think I have helena meta but she's just lvl 99

rn it's basically Helena - Ariake - Agir frontline

[sweet delta]

this is fine then, you'll probably twoshot, and switching nagato for a vanguard would still be a twoshot

[glass basin]

yeah if I can 2 shot auto it's good enough for me

so just swap out beacon

uh is catapult or fire control radar higher +13 prio

like do I aim for 6 catapults or 3 radars first

[sweet delta]

no rainbow table? I would +13 two HSFCR at most, but it's higher priority than catapults

and 3 white shells before HSFCR

[cobalt gate]

how much increase of rainbow table over gold radar?

also +10 rainbow table vs +13 gold radar?

[sweet delta]

input your tech and fully equip one BB here to see https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[glass basin]

nope, missed both vanguard 1st run and rerun

[quartz breach]

Okay so I got the reward but it still remains at 5/7.

[glass basin]

also for the torp bombers; which one do I +13
or do I just +13 one of each good ones

[sweet delta]

maybe re-enter the map or restart the game to see

[cobalt gate]

oh intresting thought for meta fights the 3% would be more worth it

[sweet delta]

one +13 at a time, having two ryuuseis at +11 is a big no no. End up with 2 of each +13

[sweet delta]

meta isn't siren

[glass basin]

so the good ones are ryusei, vit, saiun and junker right just to be sure
also will rainbow radar go in R&D

[cobalt gate]

what? it isn't

hmm i should change some things around i guess

[sweet delta]

considering that even Shimakaze's torps aren't in yet, you'll be waiting a long time likely

Vanguard was 8 months after SHimakaez

[cobalt gate]

what is the shimakaze torp?

[stark quiver]

shima torp , UR

[glass basin]

does admiralty fc radar have high enough hit to not use aurora vs light boss

[sweet delta]

what is cyan rarity

[stark quiver]

the more the merrier

[stark quiver]

how 2 make rainbow in shets

[glass basin]

Oh I just call it manual mode torp

so mostly the admiralty fc radar is just fp statstick

[sweet delta]

not at all, it is a hit statstick

just because Aurora is still bis with AFCT doesn't mean AFCT's hit is worthless

[glass basin]

I meannnnn
just reset if missed

[nimble knoll]

Is Fu Shuns skills worth to lvl?

[stark quiver]

yes

[sweet delta]

why would you not level her skills if you're going to use her

[glass basin]

why would you use fu shun

[stark quiver]

cuz shes good

[glass basin]

why use good ships when there are broken ones
well unless they like her or trying to raise her for tech points

[sweet delta]

why be a new pllayer when you can just have every ship in the game fr ong

[stark quiver]

why wait for vanny archive when u couldve started a year ago fr fr

[cobalt gate]

oh those 2 rainbow ones, wait are they good? i didn't lvl them

[stark quiver]

hm?

[nimble knoll]

Is it worth using the blue books for lvling instead, cuz I'm running low on the others

[stark quiver]

youll end up running out of blue books

[glass basin]

it's the best torp for manual play

[stark quiver]

basically never used

[glass basin]

I mean yeah you gotta use what you have

[cobalt gate]

i see, i kinda gave up on torp comp

[stark quiver]

use w/e color books for w/e skill ur leveling

[glass basin]

but use up your corresponding color book first

[stark quiver]

i dont see why youd waste efficiency and also run out of blue books at the same time

[nimble knoll]

Not like I have a lot of ships with blue skills

[sweet delta]

being low on red books doesn't mean you're out of red books

[glass basin]

just use up red books first
and if you run out, use a blue book before you go to sleep because that's most abundant

[nimble knoll]

And when I'm out of red books?

[sweet delta]

[dreamy blade]

brother you have 96 hours worth of red books and thats not counting the other rarities

[glass basin]

and gold books is 8 hour so you can wake up exactly finishing the class

just try not to merge low tier books into high tier

[nimble knoll]

[dreamy blade]

personally i really cannot be bothered to spam the 2hr books so i merge those

[stark quiver]

i have more than enough books, so i dont bother merging

[cobalt gate]

i hope we get another book event soon

[hollow gust]

Make it when a UR event is around

[honest sequoia]

does anyone know how to lower the oil cost?? its not even a full fleet

i brought 6 URs to the event and its not even 951 oil

[stark quiver]

different oil cap levels

12-4 is capped at 951 and event d3 is at like 801

[honest sequoia]

oh bruh
is there like a better map to farm exp??

[stark quiver]

12-1

[honest sequoia]

what about coins

[stark quiver]

12-4

[honest sequoia]

thanks

[stark quiver]

and pls farm with full fleets

[sullen dew]

Question: if you obtain a META ship during an event, and you get the required amt of META crystals to fully limit break them, is it still possible to obtain more copies of that same META from map drops?

[stark quiver]

the copies get turned into crystal frags im pretty sure

[honest sequoia]

despite being 951 capped oil? 😭
im gonna run out of oil soon

[sharp socket]

they do, ive dropped doria 8 9 times and the excess become meta crystals

[stark quiver]

yes, because oil cap exist, if u didnt have cap, youd have to pay 1600 oil, a alternative option is 11-1 , which is the BEST at exp/oil, but at the cost of not earning cog chips (used to awaken ships)

[honest sequoia]

so technically world 12 good for everything??
12-1 exp
12-4 for everything in general

[vale spindle]

no any extra crystals get turned into crystal fragments automatically

[sullen dew]

Like the ones you can use in the META shop?

[stark quiver]

12-1 exp
12-4 coin
there are better maps to farm, like 13-4 for coins and 11-1 for exp, but they both have cons, with 13-4 being hard and needing more carries > which decreases exp earned being some are going towards a capped ship, and 11-1 doesnt drop cogs,

[sullen dew]

Ah perfect. I was afraid I'd be stuck needing to build a second META, or worse, be stuck with an extra META that I can't fully LB b/c RNG decided it doesn't like me

[stark quiver]

meta dupes are not real

[sullen dew]

Cheers bro I'll drink to that

[vagrant harness]

who should i dev30 first kearsarge or hinden??

[stark quiver]

i think u should go to pr7

[vagrant harness]

why tho?

[stark quiver]

the ships and gear make more of an impact compared to pr6

the La9 is the best fighter against medium armor
and nakhimov and napoli are cracked cv and tank|
bayard has good CL dps, daisen is your higher end Gold BB

[balmy kiln]

No pre evals this time? Is Maggiore Baracca good? I struggle to tell if subs are good or not lol

[stark quiver]

same/worse by a little compared da vinci

doesnt beat the existing Uboat and american sub comps

[vagrant harness]

nakhimov and napoli are more cracked than the limited URs like fritz and amagi cv? more cracked than guam and unzen?

[mellow cape]

Tbh the strat is go weapon focus and pick nakhimov face research. Weapon focus and then use coin ups to catch up on prior pr seasons

That should boost your progress tremendously, especially if you can make it to 12-4 for coins

[balmy kiln]

Hmm if im using fishpack then im good huh

[stark quiver]

they each have their own uses

nakh is great when paired up with fritz and soyuz, making one of the best anti medium comps
while napoli is highly tanky and has good damage
though they do not play the role of amagi cv, who is used for anti heavy comps
while guam is a AA platform tank, and unzen isnt a tank at all, being a torpedo damage ship thats deadly against heavy armor

[nimble knoll]

Shud indep replace Aquila or Volga? I'm tryna get her xp

[stark quiver]

volga, but in reality, you want unicorn + aql/indep

[vagrant harness]

whats the best anti heavy comp rn?

[stark quiver]

implacable,amagicv,shinano

most standard comp

[vagrant harness]

might have to ask again for w14 fleet help. i cant find my older threads i think

W14 fleet help

[smoky palm]

Is it generally better for a meowfficer to start with two good talents that way you can potentially find for example "Flames of Aggression" or "Mountains Tenacity" easier/earlier... Or is it better for a Meowfficer to start with 3 good stats you know you want, but then it's harder to find those rare talents earlier when upgrading talents

Or other rare talents too

[sweet delta]

it's better to start with Flame or (soulful, ace, or wolf) so that you can roll the other

[smoky palm]

For example.. this CV cat vs this one

[sweet delta]

level either or both of them. Neither of them is worth rerolling

[smoky palm]

Btw, what are the main talents you should want on a sub cat? Aside from Alpha Wolf and Flames ofc

[sweet delta]

sub officer, sub rld, and sub trp or destiny

[forest palm]

Faction Talent hurts, very limiting in who benefits from it

[whole stump]

i'm hella stuck on 3-3 lol my 2nd team keeps dying what do i do

[sweet delta]

you shouldn't be using a 2nd team to battle

[whole stump]

i run out of ammo with my first team though... not sure what t odo

am i doing something wrong?

[dreamy blade]

being out of ammo doesnt mean that fleet cant fight

[sweet delta]

one higher level fleet should be able to win without ammo

[forest palm]

you can still use the ships, it's just you get a debuff for being out of ammo which most times you can manage to play through it

[whole stump]

wait frrrr

[sweet delta]

ong

[dreamy blade]

ong fr

[whole stump]

bro i been playing the fkn game wrong this whole time coulda been at like stage 5

[stark quiver]

on my soul (idk what this is abt)

[whole stump]

me bein a noob

[forest palm]

game only really demands a second fleet when you hit 10

[whole stump]

i was like how the fk am i gonna level 12 chars at a time

[forest palm]

event is good for that if you can do D side, but that's due in part to oil cap

and it's rather beneficial for those that are sub world 9

[smoky palm]

Well this is my current level 30 sub cat.. which I use in a Wolf pack sub fleet.. but I just got 2 new sub cats that I think have potential

[forest palm]

that's a steel with sub traits, alright

[storm heron]

stainless steel

[smoky palm]

Here's it's final talents

[storm heron]

pretty good for torp, -4 rld probably might not make a different

[smoky palm]

Vs the two new cats I just got that don't have the iron blood talent

[dreamy blade]

flame where

[sweet delta]

I see neither Flame nor Wolf on these

stick to the old steel

[smoky palm]

I know.. that's why I wasnt sure if I should just stick with my current cat since it started with flames and I run it in a Wolf pack anyways despite it not having the reload only talent.. or if it's worth chancing it with either of the other two and seeing if I could find Flames or Alpha Wolf during talent upgrades

[forest palm]

just make a side project Steel

[storm heron]

forge another steel on the side

[forest palm]

the end product is 20 RLD

I spent like 5 months rerolling my side Edelweiss for 20 RLD w/ Alpha Wolf + Flame

[storm heron]

is daily reset being set ahead 1 hour?

[forest palm]

yes

[wind hazel]

huh?

[forest palm]

if you're in the US reset shifts with DST

[storm heron]

I was tricked, rip 1 cube

[forest palm]

a lot of EN client gacha oddly follow DST, and I hate it

[dreamy blade]

wait so reset isnt in 45min?

[sweet delta]

it is

[soft raft]

It is

[dreamy blade]

oh ok, where i am doesnt do dst so was confused about it shifting

[sweet delta]

server time doesn't shift

[stark quiver]

this man got olbiterated by the dailight savings curse

[forest palm]

[sweet delta]

He was just 1 cube away from poverty

[whole stump]

is taihou my best backline along with pennsylvania and unicorn?

[sweet delta]

Yes unless you can find enterprise in the medal shop

[whole stump]

those seem pretty hard to comeby, since it'll be a while before i get her its ok to level up taihou?

[sweet delta]

Yes

Taihou may be about as good as enterprise anyways, when you don't have good gear as a new player

[whole stump]

i also pulled her, would you say she could replace helena?

so it'll be portland, laffey, and her

[forest palm]

no, in no way will she replace Helena

[whole stump]

:( rip

[dreamy blade]

w3 is like 8 worlds too early to be replacing any of the starter fleet ships

[forest palm]

you can certainly make upgrades, but as a newer player you don't wanna spread resources too thin

[whole stump]

sounds good, i think i'm getting too ahead of myself on day 1

made really good progress though i think, just 10 more dorm tokens and i can get the second floor too

[spring basin]

should i just do the highest hard mode stage that i can do or go back and 3 star them all one by one ?

[dreamy blade]

highest you can do for more core data, you can go back to 3star older ones if you need the retro prints later

[spring basin]

ty

[brave blade]

is it possible to ever repeat or re do the screen you get after getting a new ship? skipped one by accident

[forest palm]

can replay UR acquisition cutscenes, but not regular ships with regular ships you can listen to their acquisition line though

[brave blade]

hope we get the acquisition repeat for regular ships someday

[eternal basalt]

But... why? Just play the line.

[brave blade]

i have screenshots saved up since 2018, can't let the habit die man

[sweet delta]

Screenshot someone else's screenshot

[eternal basalt]

Still no clue next meta?

[sweet delta]

Maybe they'll pull another taihou and spontaneously repurpose some existing art for a ship who has no relevance to the story

With no voice lines too

[eternal basalt]

Hakaze

[sweet delta]

Which meta showdown(s) got extended?

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Showdown#Synchronization_Rewards

But they already said they have a new META next patch

[crisp raven]

but the gallery hasnt been updated in for-fucking-ever, so getting new art ingame would be nice

[brave blade]

that's actually evil... you have my attention

[whole stump]

is this worth? homecoming reward

[wind hazel]

yes, very good cog value

[nimble knoll]

How can I know the armor type of the guild boss?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses?term=guild

[terse juniper]

what gear uses raffaello?

[sweet delta]

Same as most other BBs. Btw, that gun is meh against light and super bad against heavy, don't treat it as a general purpose gun for general content

[terse juniper]

i dont have the other UR guns

something like this right

[jaunty vault]

something like that, yes
the point about the gun not being for general use still stands, use other (rarity) guns depending on the content

[terse juniper]

farming 12-4

[wind hazel]

put the mk6 on her

[cobalt rapids]

dont enhance that 2ndary gun any further

or that nj gun

[storm heron]

nj gun

[terse juniper]

i dont have her UR gun

[cobalt rapids]

i meant the gun on nj

[terse juniper]

well, I'm more guided by the recommended gear than by the tier list

[storm heron]

careful, gold plates are very hard to come by

[honest sequoia]

Can Nagato and Kazagumo be paired tgt for the carrier dmg buff?

[cobalt rapids]

yes they stack

[honest sequoia]

Nagato
Hakuryuu
Shinano

CB/CA
Kazagumo
Helena

This works??

[cobalt rapids]

works when it works

[honest sequoia]

Alr thanks

[cobalt rapids]

when it works = boss doesnt move during ur airstrikes

[sweet delta]

Refund next year

[nimble knoll]

Is this gun gud?

[unborn owl]

who should i D30 first?

[cobalt rapids]

u can only d30 hinden or brest with that amount of prints
otherwise it depends on the season ure focusing, u should finish the seasons before moving onto the next

[eternal basalt]

Admiral cat

[cobalt rapids]

tldr finish hinden , finish kear -> move onto 7 or finish hinden and focus 7

[unborn owl]

hinden done, now onto admiral cat

[cobalt gate]

man why does 14 feel worse than 15

[crimson glacier]

you had worse fleet

[cobalt gate]

i'm doing 14 now and it feels awful

[eternal basalt]

Have you done 15 then? 14 feels like a breeze compared to it

[cobalt gate]

i have

[crimson glacier]

then your w14 fleet is just worse

[cobalt gate]

14 just feels like way too much torpedo

[crimson glacier]

use torp bulges

[cobalt gate]

doesn't help and the stupid flare as well

[upbeat wagon]

when does event end

2 days?

[nimble knoll]

In the 13th iirc

[cobalt gate]

12th

[crimson glacier]

event ends 13th

[nimble knoll]

Once you collect 55k, It's fine if you don't do the event right? (Cuz I'll do w12 instead)

[mild sail]

W14? Just EVA and ASW check

[crimson glacier]

if theres nothing you want from the event shop or milestone rewards then theres no reason to do event stages

[nimble knoll]

Do you think this'll be fine for w12 mob?

[mild sail]

Give it a spin

Likely you will just kill everything

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[knotty halo]

hello im new , is this very useful?

[wind hazel]

useful for limit breaking elite or below ships

[knotty halo]

ok

if im pull 1 more , am i able to get good or super rare?

[crimson glacier]

you are always able, never guaranteed

[wind hazel]

pull on event if you want to pull

[knotty halo]

ok

[tropic tusk]

daily event pull ,when no event daily light pull

[timid forum]

do i have better options for team?
when i should limit break units? (they will consume more oil if i understand properly)
is bartolomeo good unit?

[tropic tusk]

first u dont put helena in frount

second there isnt much u can improve

third u need to retrofit unicorn

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
last give this a read

[hushed sorrel]

when limit breaking unit - i would say that you should do it when needed. If you do not play much the extra oil isnt to much to carry and you should just upgrade them. better ships mean faster fights

[wind hazel]

remove lil renown, put saratoga in. use portland as main tank, remove bartolomeo

[hushed sorrel]

a few ships like meta and ur also doesnt increase the oil per fight when they get a limit break

[wind hazel]

and use only 1 fleet, no need to use 2 fleets for now

if you have CV medal on your shop then grab enterprise

use enterprise instead of saratoga

[timid forum]

so, bartolomeo is bad, right?

[wind hazel]

compared to what's available to you yeah

[timid forum]

and i can start researching saint louis
or wait for roon?

[wind hazel]

wont matter too much

[crimson glacier]

both are kinda meh

[wind hazel]

you can start on louis, since your vanguard fits the requirement

but no need to pay too much attention on it for now

[hushed sorrel]

i think you mean he/she should use all resources to upgrade just a single fleet. if you dont mean that i would say there is no other harm having 2 fleets

[wind hazel]

if you only have resources to upgrade a single fleet, then what's the point having the 2nd fleet?

[timid forum]

i swap them sometimes, when low mood

[wind hazel]

don't do that

when you're swapping fleet early game, you're basically spreading your oil across 12 ships instead of boosting your first 6 ships

[hushed sorrel]

its just not what you wrote and i told you that just now =) i mean no harm just wanted to clearyfy

[timid forum]

and i found tier list, but its hard to understand which unit is better on my level, is there newbie friendly one?

[wind hazel]

the one mankit linked earlier

it's pretty much what i've told you, just in more details

lots of tips inside though, which you should read

[knotty halo]

this is my fleet and you have suggestion

[wind hazel]

go buy pennsylvania and unicorn from guild shop, refresh it, buy portland and helena, remove hermes and renown, kent and cola

[hushed sorrel]

since brain is most likely chapter one i highly doubt that she/he has enough guild coins for that

[wind hazel]

you get 4k free guild coin for starting the game...

[hushed sorrel]

oh xD

ok sry i will leave i seem to disturb more then i help

[knotty halo]

here?

[honest stirrup]

Yes

[knotty halo]

elite ,rare ,limited or others?

[honest stirrup]

Limited are overpriced and not interesting at the beginning

[knotty halo]

best elite ships for starter

[honest stirrup]

.

[wind hazel]

unicorn from elite, penny from rare
buy the T4 gear plates and T3 skill before refreshing

then buy helena from elite, portland from rare, and see if you got other stuff to buy again or not

[honest stirrup]

T4 gear might not be a priority when T3 aren't that common from early to mid game

[wind hazel]

it's still good to buy

you aren't losing anything buying it, but actually losing not buying it

[knotty halo]

i got penny and unicorn

with your suggestion

is it any for change or already good?

[tame jungle]

bulin is useless

[strong tartan]

bulins aren't meant for combat

[tame jungle]

kent is also no good

get portland and helena from guild shop aswell

[knotty halo]

portalnd and helena is good?

[tame jungle]

yeah, that's why we recommend them, very cost-effective options

[knotty halo]

is both were rare?

[tame jungle]

helena is purple, portland is blue

you can refresh your guild shop to get them (button at the top right)

[knotty halo]

it worked okay now i have to buy them

[vestal yoke]

Guys I just started but keep failing missions on the boss level

[knotty halo]

how bout this?

[vestal yoke]

Which units should I use and how do I upgrade them?

[tame jungle]

portland should be in the leftmost slot at the front

and z23 should be in the rightmost slot

[vestal yoke]

Positioning matters???

[tame jungle]

yes

[strong tartan]

yes usually ships that can take more punishment take the leftmost space or the tank position

[tame jungle]

the one in the left of the vanguard is your lead ship and will tank most of the hits, so you'll want a durable ship in that slot

[knotty halo]

i hope this better

[tame jungle]

move her over one more bro

she should be in the spot helena is in right now

[timid forum]

do i need to retire all unused rare+ units to get enterprise, or its not that important?
an which units to consider retiring?

[tame jungle]

you could consider retiring any easily accessible ships (read: dropped from campaign)

[polar lion]

And also duplicates of ships you already max limit break

[tame jungle]

might be worth if you have CV in medal shop now
requisition is always a scam

[knotty halo]

i got her , useful maybe?

[tame jungle]

just stick to the frontline you already have

[vestal yoke]

Ad a beginner should I only pull light ships to stack the counter for the ultra rare ship?

[tame jungle]

when you're not pulling for an event, you do 1 light pull daily to maximize the cube gain

[knotty halo]

guys should i do this?

[tame jungle]

no

[knotty halo]

it will be blunder?

[tame jungle]

it's dogshit

[knotty halo]

okay i will not pull it

[vestal yoke]

Who should I use?

[tame jungle]

portland helena javelin
pennsylvania unicorn and someone else (long island maybe)

you can probably also get enterprise from some beginner reward thing but it's been so long that i forgot if that's true, so someone please fact check me on that

[quick mason]

How to clear operation siren

[wind hazel]

getting through medal shop is faster

i think lil E has CV rotation this month

[vestal yoke]

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing helena or Portland

[tame jungle]

get them from guild shop then

[nimble knoll]

Yeah, Lil E Has SR CV

[urban stone]

someone help, i'm building Brünhilde, after read her skill, and do some fight, i got confuse, which one is her barrage ? the lance? the torp? or the red and black volley?

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

refer to this guide on who to use
it also tells you how to get helena and portland

[timid forum]

can she replace someone?

[atomic abyss]

she can, but i wouldnt recommend it at the moment

i'd save her for a future fleet 2

[hushed sorrel]

also thats not how the counter for the ur works. it count used cubes

[white agate]

will more accurate testing for raffaello come in 2 weeks or basically she is what we already know?

[gray obsidian]

well, people need time to level her up, max her skills, and try her out in various fleet comps in various scenarios with various gear. 2 weeks could be too soon even

[hushed sorrel]

thats one of the benefits of beeing up to date :) we can explore

[safe star]

are the level up packs worth any good? for gems

[wind hazel]

gem pack with double bonus>

[safe star]

gems only for skins right?

[wind hazel]

for dockspace too

[safe star]

im cooked gg

[wind hazel]

good gem:$ breakdown here #gameplay-help message

[safe star]

want to get raffaelo but returning and have no cubes

[wind hazel]

return 2 years later

[safe star]

fr

[vocal sandal]

is there anything good from this rotation of medal shop? i already have enterprise takao and prinz eugen

[knotty halo]

should i save cubes for later?

i just pull somethin useful

[tropic tusk]

its like u dont even read

i have said just daily pull on event and light when no event

[knotty halo]

i read it

okay okay

[wind hazel]

kazagumo from DD

sirius/sandy from CL

hood/tirpitz/whatever tech from BB

u-96 from SS too but kinda endgame

[carmine heath]

Is this a good sub comp

[wind hazel]

1/3 of ideal wolf pack

[carmine heath]

what subs should I get

[wind hazel]

81 and 96

[carmine heath]

wait so which sub should I keep

[sharp echo]

mlb fritz or mlb yt2 better?

[wind hazel]

37, 47 works too but 37 is slightly better

and since you havent invested bulin in either i'd take the 37

[fiery swan]

how good are the new pastas

[vocal sandal]

alright thanks

[keen sable]

Yes

[south sequoia]

How long does it typically take for an event meta shipgirl to arrive in meta shop after their event ended?

[rigid onyx]

IDT there's been a rerun with a meta ship yet misunderstood question

[ivory pawn]

Very quick. Should be right after event shop closes, maybe a week later at worst.

For crystals anyways. The ship themself will probably be with the event being archived.

[south sequoia]

Ye I just need the crystals Im only grinding this event NOW so I can only grab 18k before dipping

oh btw, thoughts on andrea meta? she looks to be pretty good

[weary gust]

If you're a new player she has a use if you have all the ships shes just tech.

[south sequoia]

what does she contri for tech

[weary gust]

basic sr bb for mobbing

[late flame]

FP+1

[south sequoia]

oh.

[worldly pewter]

if u are a new player how can u enhance a meta ship ?

[dreamy blade]

cruise pass gives enough for at least 1 no

[wind hazel]

no

well at least not for the uh, event

maybe enough for the cruise pass meta

[dreamy blade]

oh i assumed they used the same mats, fp and rld or w/e

[boreal wagon]

doesnt free cruise pass this time only give the trp mat

and most of the time free especially does not give enough even for the cruise meta

[dreamy blade]

ah ok, tbh i dont really pay attention to the rewards from it

imo the ease to mlb and the fact it doesnt take gold bulins outweighs the enhancing mats

[boreal wagon]

cruise pass mats are weird because sometimes they give too many of one mat but too little of the others

it kind of feels like they just roll a dice for the mats

in recent passes theyve given an equal-ish amount of all the mats in paid and just one kind of mat in free

and that one kind seems to rotate w/ season

(i say recent but only the current one gave only one for free )

[dreamy blade]

all i know is the paid pass mats are pretty underwhelming apart from the skin and augment stones

[boreal wagon]

its pretty much only worth it if you like the skin or really want more of the gear skins

or have too much money ig

[eager mulch]

[sharp echo]

mlb fritz first or mlb yt2 first?

[dreamy blade]

depends on your other URs but probably fritz or wait for implac

[sharp echo]

i usually use fritz with uni and darkness

yt2, i have enterprise and building saratoga now

[turbid marsh]

yeah then fritz. good w15 support fleet, great at anti light and medium. yorktown2 wants other essex URs as of now.

[polar lion]

U prolly want implap

U want the stop utility so that your plane loads actually hit the target instead of whiffing

[vestal yoke]

I got bolzano meta form this event should I use her? I just started playing

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[turbid marsh]

thats just a purple meta in the pass... purple meta = not that good in general unless you are fortune meta

[late flame]

fortune meta is uh

[turbid marsh]

but thats pvp only so it is not applied too

[dreamy blade]

~~kasumi meta the goat for trp stat padding ~~

[forest palm]

putting a ship on a pedestal for one hyper specific use case

[south sequoia]

the funniest part is that fortune meta has been long phased out... for over a year

[late flame]

that is.. unfortunate

[south sequoia]

yes turns out torp deleting being put on a ship that explodes when you sneeze in her direction is less ideal than tanky destroyers who will straight up ignore and eat the torpedos with not much harm

[hollow gust]

Eldridge also explodes lmao

[south sequoia]

yes but she has a chance of not making your fleet explode so its good enough and frankly very fucking cancer

[turbid marsh]

yeah, that is quite unfortunate heehee. purple meta = irrelavent except fleet tech but thats also not relevant for new players XD

[sharp echo]

bomber > torpedo ?

[south sequoia]

what context?

[sharp echo]

in general

[hollow gust]

Wyvern 4 life

[wind hazel]

huh

[turbid marsh]

but context really matter in this one though....

[sharp echo]

for fritz, general use

[south sequoia]

I guess torpedo bombers are... neat for mob clearing
but it is heavily context dependent, not to mention the fact its 2 different plane slots

oh

[turbid marsh]

i think fritz likes 2 fighters but thats just me

[dreamy blade]

depends where you are using her general use doesnt really say anything

but yes since her specialty is anti light/medium she will generally prefer fighters

[south sequoia]

I guess double pancakes for heavy aa worlds, otherwise fighter torpedo bomber

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

Her damage is so ass, she can't even beat the old fks

[turbid marsh]

i thought it is already known that her damage is... well... fdg level XD

[quartz jungle]

Nah she doesn't with prowler, more often enough one side autowins when Soyuz wastes her barrages on the invul vanguard and the other doesn't

[worldly pewter]

raff is still SSS+ tier
not beating the old ships in single target doesn't mean anything

[wind hazel]

it actually mean something

[hollow gust]

It means her single target damage is subpar for a modern day UR

[worldly pewter]

i mean if u want to evaluate a ship evaluate it on something it was designed to

[wind hazel]

but we can also evaluate them in other aspect

[hollow gust]

Saying her single target damage is below newer BBs is fine? She is still a UR BB and that comes with certain expectations

[worldly pewter]

u can but the evaluation doesn't mean anything

[hollow gust]

Either way she will be used for single target damage for many many people

[wind hazel]

no it means something. that something is that she isn't suited for single target bossing

vs the rest of the UR anyway

[hollow gust]

Newer players don't have the luxury of having all 8 UR BBs, she will be their best bossing ship for a long time

[worldly pewter]

yes i thought that was clear from the beginning so the evaluation should have been more towards what she was designed to do

[soft raft]

well you'd ineveitably get people asking for how she'd do in other use cases so the testing is still warranted if anything to have a better answer for that question

[hollow gust]

What is there to evaluate for mobbing ? Of course she will be a premier mob BB, still need to know how she matches against others for other aspects of the game. **You don't ignore a test just cause she is bad at them **

Also pleasant thing is , these stacks are basically never coming off, I did like 5 runs today and not a single time they broke

[wind hazel]

is there any use case for 3 La9 at the moment? or 2/4 is still standard

[manic fossil]

Returning player who hasn't touched game since 2024.

Any DRs i should prioritise? Currently doing research for nakhimov

[hollow gust]

You can probaly run 2x Fritz and 1x Nahkimov

[worldly pewter]

no i meant it is like for example testing unicorn in a boss fight against aquila preload more or less

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

happy hours?

[hollow gust]

She is a UR BB , she will** very likely and will **be used in a single target bossing fleet . How tf does that relate to unicorn in bossing

[wind hazel]

is this gona sync 3 strike

[quartz jungle]

Is that or 1x Fritz 2 La-9 for Nakhimov is better for 3 strike timing?

[cobalt rapids]

sounds good

[manic fossil]

Is other pasta DR worth?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[worldly pewter]

i m more towards always testing something in a domain it was designed into
that is it thus the unicorn analogy

[manic fossil]

And holy napoli there are new rainbow planes

[cobalt rapids]

biggest tank in the game but we dont use biggest tanks

[turbid marsh]

i mean people are always going to judge a ship on meta defining/breaking, and frankly she aint making a big difference against aquila+musashi

[manic fossil]

There are ships tankier than tankhorage?

[cobalt rapids]

u need like a 0,2s diff for 3 strike mori

[quartz jungle]

Well I think you can make the torpedo bomber slot slower ig

[wind hazel]

yea this looks ass

[cobalt rapids]

yes napoli is the biggest tanky

[worldly pewter]

yeah this is a good testing subject to do
how does she perform against the cheat code

[manic fossil]

So probably essential for campaign/opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

not essential

[quartz jungle]

Or swap La-9 on Fritz with Skyraider on Nakhimov

[hollow gust]

Okay so you recommend using Nj over raffy just cause raffy is "mob" base? That's a ridiculous take

[undone plover]

i think skyraider going on the fritz 4x slot is better

[wind hazel]

grey lied to me

[cobalt rapids]

as long as it syncs
fritzi isnt rly that flexible

[undone plover]

well actually.... if it is medium then no

u want La9 on the stronger slots nvm

[wind hazel]

grey didn't lie to me

[hollow gust]

[undone plover]

prolly just replace the vit2

bf109 is also competitive with skyraider for medium
prolly worse cuz of the 20 AVI overall but if it lets u sync easier can be good

[wind hazel]

woaw very tight

[eager mulch]

how tight

[wind hazel]

nvm eye problem it's fucking off by 1s

[quartz jungle]

Doesn't Skyraider do more damage against medium than La-9 per strike?

[cobalt rapids]

its ok in opsi u got cats

[undone plover]

this is from rice chart

[wind hazel]

😭 what if it's meta showdown

[hollow gust]

Vit -2 is fine , it's within .2 seconds

[undone plover]

u are probably thinking about light armor?

[worldly pewter]

so do u mean that i said
if a new player has a choice to mlb nj or raff i would advise him to go for nj ?

[turbid marsh]

a bit better in w14, a bit worse in w15. self damage is too low to compete with musashi...

[undone plover]

remember skyraider has 80% avi scaling
so cant just use the base bomb numbers

[cobalt rapids]

turn down tech and divorce soyuz

[river junco]

I wouldn’t cause NJ can be MLB over time from pity

[cobalt rapids]

[wind hazel]

can't even marry anyone, f2p (not really but kinda)

[worldly pewter]

who did the testing ?

[wind hazel]

damn cant find the sync for f2p version with 3 la9

[turbid marsh]

cn people, there are videos in bilibili. also, for w15, you can actually just... theorize it tbh are you really gonna switch a cv/cvl with raf? or swap musashi with raf?

[undone plover]

~~elite manjuu for BB when ~~

[manic fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-sterling-archer-hey-phrasing-phrasing-gif-4228674

[hollow gust]

Missed the whole again , the thing is that just cause a ship is favor a role doesn't mean it shouldn't be used or tested in others. It's funny how you consider her a mobbing favored BB but she will be better then NJ in a lot of single target content

[turbid marsh]

though there are already videos on raf+z52 soloing manual in 15-4 safe, but i think there are already examples that you can already do that before raf. so raf doesn't add any new stuff to current content, so probably gonna be re-evaluated once w16 is out

[wind hazel]

as long as within 0,2 it's fine right? imma go cook

[eager mulch]

cook what

[cobalt rapids]

u

[wind hazel]

turtle soup

[manic fossil]

Nj still a staple for main fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

raostd tortle

[eager mulch]

light bowgun hate

[cobalt rapids]

less talk more sleep and para

[cobalt rapids]

not rly
big 5 bbs are bz sushi als soyuz and vanny

[river junco]

Been powercreeped by other UR BBs if you have em

[manic fossil]

Missing als and soyuz

[river junco]

If you have NJ already MLB then I’d use her if you have nothing else, but I wouldn’t mass pull for her on standard banner

[manic fossil]

Also you ARE referring to their use in campaign/opsi, and not their cannon sizes right

[nimble knoll]

Should I replace Aquila for Indep so she gets Xp? (Clearing W12 and Indep is lvl 79, and Aquila is 115)

[worldly pewter]

xeno is finally doing w12

[wind hazel]

dont use low level for clearing maps

[quartz jungle]

NJ has like the second biggest cannon size out of all the ships listed, so obviously not

[nimble knoll]

I was focusing on the event so I didn't had time to do it, but I got the plates so, why not

[wind hazel]

low level for safe level farm=ok
low level for clearing=not ok

[nimble knoll]

Aight, Might not use my 79 fu shun then

[manic fossil]

So wait. New pasta UR. Worth?

[eager mulch]

worth what

personally im not pulling for her

[soft raft]

Gacha UR always pog

[woven star]

This pasta too salty

[manic fossil]

Worth pulling that is

[nimble knoll]

She's good for mobbing, but not better than most UR BB, There's better ones if you have them, but imo she's gud

[manic fossil]

Ah well oma adopt a pokemon approach to this; gotta collext em all

[woven star]

1 copy fine

[manic fossil]

Yea

[cobalt rapids]

[manic fossil]

Anyway rainbow bulins are expendable

[eager mulch]

just pull every ship in the game

[woven star]

Yeah. Pull them away

[hollow gust]

Watch the next meta boss favor raffy

[eager mulch]

(it won’t)

[manic fossil]

Got enough specialised cores

[nimble knoll]

Wait, Then should I use my lvl 120 VV or lvl 106 Raff? (Dunno who's gonna be better)

[eager mulch]

did they announce San Fran meta yet?

[manic fossil]

Sandy II when

[turbid marsh]

so frontline danger XD

[eager mulch]

get raff to 120

[wind hazel]

raff is fine

[soft raft]

they havent announced the next META at all

[eager mulch]

shrimplest solution

[hollow gust]

You know her skill is useless if the vanguard doesn't kill anything right?

[forest palm]

did ya'll consider adjusting Tech?

[manic fossil]

Imagine if its sandy meta

[soft raft]

imagine going to #al-general for speculation instead

[quartz jungle]

Monkey's paw curls: It's Arizone Meta + Repulse Meta

[hollow gust]

Finally a content that BBs don't get fisted by CVs

[turbid marsh]

yeah i know, basically needs a lot of summons, + deals a lot of damage to frontline so that raf can utilize her heals and shields, and requires z52+eld

[wind hazel]

yes

[nimble knoll]

-# Context?

[turbid marsh]

thats the only way i can think a meta boss that favors raf....

[manic fossil]

Fisting BBs.. you just gave me an idea

[nimble knoll]

-# Damn, no context

[quartz jungle]

Meta turns into PvP

[hollow gust]

Although I'm pretty sure a boss needs like 600 aa for BBs to have a good chance against CVs

Even then Yorktown has aa reduction

[south sequoia]

aa reduction gets stronger the more aa an enemy has

[quartz jungle]

And Laffey II, which you'd probably be using as well

[hollow gust]

Meh

Just use actual buffers instead

[nimble knoll]

What's a normal oil per battle used without oilcap?

[south sequoia]

helena sirius kaza

[quartz jungle]

Well if the boss does actual damage (probably won't though)

[hollow gust]

Eagle fleets don't need kaza

[plain saffron]

varies on who you use, there's no really "normal" but it's usually "a lot"

[south sequoia]

whatever the total of your fleet oil cost is, multiplied by how much battles they will do in total

[desert trellis]

whats the fastest way to grind out meta shipgirl skills level

[eager mulch]

books

[quartz jungle]

Or actually sends enough planes to reveal your CVs by 2nd strike

[nimble knoll]

Is 70 gud?

[south sequoia]

there is no "normal"

[plain saffron]

ignore the cost, if it works, it works

[tame jungle]

don't worry about oil consumption when pushing

[hollow gust]

Put them into your mob fleet , go to one of those yellow chest nodes , attack a point with your other fleet . Then auto with your mob

[south sequoia]

worrying about cost doesnt matter unless you're purposely full fleet farming with no oil cap

[plain saffron]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[desert trellis]

thx lad

[south sequoia]

^^

[woven star]

Heh. Btw SanD meta can be the solution. Planes down before reach

[plain saffron]

other than books, put in opsi mob fleet

[eager mulch]

more oil consumption = less oil = less dorm food I can buy = less food for amagi-chan

[tame jungle]

ok man

[desert trellis]

many thx mate

[eager mulch]

what armor types are the w15 bosses

[south sequoia]

we have ships who have aa reduction and an aux that increases plane hp, a theoretic boss would have to have other mechanics other than aa to counter cvs

[kindred arrow]

C1heads what's the minimum AP amount recommended to have before starting C1 runs? 500-600?

[wind hazel]

1k

[tame jungle]

1k

[woven star]

Yeah plane hp aux. Idk when used it last time. Maybe pvp. But no cv in my pvp team

[kindred arrow]

Many thanks

[south sequoia]

Medium, Heavy, Medium x2,
(in order) Medium, Light, Medium and Light

I'm counting the wakatsuki spawns in the last 15-4 node as "bosses"

they're leaning more towards as sub bosses but eh

[blissful hamlet]

Any news on the next meta showdown?

[quartz jungle]

Well yeah Avi fuel has always a PvP/extreme timing niche

[worldly pewter]

basically a campaign boss stage

[eager mulch]

no “official” announcements

[blissful hamlet]

[south sequoia]

Has enough time passed for 3x10 raffy yet

I genuinely wonder how raffy does vs musashi as mob bb

[turbid marsh]

yeah, and if a meta boss is like that, then... thank you la-9/bombers

[eager mulch]

3x10 usually takes a little over a week at peak efficiency

[blissful hamlet]

Musashi probably better since she can tank backline

[nimble knoll]

A few more days probably

[quartz jungle]

Yes if you spent only rainbow books

[south sequoia]

sadge

[mild sail]

Hang on
Raff can't tank?

[woven star]

She has more hp. Raff have decreased damage taken but only from salvo.

[blissful hamlet]

She can but musashi have tanking skill which raff doesn't have

[quartz jungle]

She doesn't have self-priority target so no

[mild sail]

Damn sometimes I forgot Mushi is a yamato class

[blissful hamlet]

She's the least hot of the yamato class

[south sequoia]

Raffs tank is also not a true damage reduction, but it only reduces fp based damage

[crimson grove]

[woven star]

This 25% makes her hp close to sushi 11k but sushi have better skills

[crimson grove]

Isn't raff limited to three cross fleet barrage battles

[nimble knoll]

Do y'all think I can have a chance at beating EX in the event with any of these ships? (Or am I still far, far away from trying)

[hollow gust]

You won't be able to oneshot it

[woven star]

Nothing that in description but 20 sec cd like NJ

[wind hazel]

probably yes

[worldly pewter]

depends on ur gear which i believe still isn't quite there for bossing

[smoky escarp]

the new event gun any good?

[tame jungle]

new best vs medium

[nimble knoll]

Who should I use then? (I'll show the gear they have)

[mild sail]

What was the previous best vs medium

[tame jungle]

soy

[mild sail]

Oh damn

[tame jungle]

actually let me factcheck true that

yeah probably true, marco gun shouldn't beat it

[wind hazel]

i'd try yk2 enterprise unicorn(yes, surprise)
sandy helena laffey

[nimble knoll]

Also would the gold be better than the purple?

[tame jungle]

not on frontline at least

[nimble knoll]

Oof

[blissful hamlet]

You seems to mistaken my skill

[wind hazel]

janus can 0 shot

[sharp echo]

is this just 315 or 315 x 2?

[blissful hamlet]

315 x 2

[nimble knoll]

What armor is the EX Boss in the event, Heavy?

[nimble knoll]

I actually managed to clear it.. Surprisingly, Though it was only a B, But I'll take it for my first EX

[undone plover]

that was probably the easy EX
there is a hard one too

[nimble knoll]

My Vanguard Dmg was terrible smh

[nimble knoll]

It was indeed easy.. Now I'll try Hard, I'll get my ass beaten so bad-

Wasn't even a fight, It was a massacre..

[undone plover]

u would have to manual it probably
and I think u dont have enough dmg

[nimble knoll]

I manualed both

[nimble knoll]

Should I show my Dmg on easy EX?

[undone plover]

honestly I am no expert on EX
for starters I think u need to replace unicorn with another CV (with a stop hopefully like AvP) or slow like ark royal
and for vanguard sandy and laffey are not doing much
u want sth that buffs your CV dmg like a ship with ARA skill
and u would also need good gear (+13 end game gear I would assume)
then u need to manual decently
preferably on emulator since phone is hard

[nimble knoll]

Meh, My account isn't even two months old yet, I atleast think I did good for the time my account has be active, but in the future I'll take note

[undone plover]

yes doing easy mode is good for the cog chips
dont sweat it for hard unless u want to do it for yourself
but u probably need a few more months of progress I think
I dont want to say u cant do it since I really dont know the limits of EX gaming early on

[nimble knoll]

Meh, It's fine if you say I can't do it, I only have one 125 ship at the moment, and my gear is mediocre at best imo, No +13, Don't have a lot of ships lvled/Mlb for Tech, So it's understandable, Atleast I managed to do Easy EX, And that's a good accomplishment for me

[tender girder]

if FDG and Rafa are my only two UR BB... should i bother to 125 FDG? or just focus on Rafa?

[sharp socket]

yes because you need 2 for campaign

also fdg is coinable so easier to raise

[sharp echo]

where do you use this points

[wind hazel]

for this

[sharp echo]

oooooooooooh

damn i need 1100 more

[tame jungle]

800*?

[turbid marsh]

neko needs 800 XD

[tame jungle]

oh i am blind

[turbid marsh]

feel your EN bloodline!

[tame jungle]

i had to do it

[remote nacelle]

If you have to choose, who would be top 5-6 for OpSi mob fleet if you're just going for fast clear/pure damage and dmg consistency, not caring about tankiness/survivability? Would Unzen easily make the list?

[elfin hollow]

Is the bofor twin 40mm second best anti air for z52

[rapid grail]

unzen in the list Sure.
personally running Brest Shima Unzen, though people are also running any and/or Hindenburg, Watarase, Ibuki w/ aug for early barrages

[remote nacelle]

I assume Shimanto, not Shimakaze right? Also, what's your thoughts on Plymoth for OpSi mob compared to Shimanto?

[knotty dome]

do submarines hunt in events/war archives?

[hollow gust]

It's a waste to use one of the best bb supports in mob

[rapid grail]

shimakaze; shimanto is usually referred by her full name. shima is comfy nickname

Plymouth for OpSi mobbing is a waste of her talents. You will almost always see her in the boss fleet, and the only cases you won't see her is if the player does not have her built yet. Like my alt is
In that case I would recommend Bayard instead, her damage is weaker than Ply but has wide barrages and a good enough statline to do the job well in mobbing

[dreamy blade]

ibuki

[knotty dome]

mine seem to stay at full ammo and submerged

[shell willow]

you need to toggle it

[dreamy blade]

are your subs in attack mode?

[remote nacelle]

Thank you you two! Generally I'm at the point of not having a "boss fleet" anymore in OpSi except rare occasions my "mob" fleet can't clear the 200 resource node by itself early on in the month, or needing 2nd fleet for actual Siren nodes. Thus I want to dump as much dps as possible into one fleet to save some time when I have to clear 72 zones during first week

[knotty dome]

ohhhhh

that was it i think. not sure why it was off lol. thanks

[dreamy blade]

ply still not that great for mobbing since for speed you would be running 3 cvs

[mellow cape]

If you want cheat mobbing looking into ibuki with her augment for op si

Combine that with unicorn and a preloader like Alsace and you're clearing maps in seconds

[dreamy blade]

between ibuki and unicorn every fight below c6 ends in 2secs

[remote nacelle]

I'm.... interested.... where can I get details on equipment on Ibuki for this purpose?

[dreamy blade]

her gear isnt that important besides her unique augment and choice of torps, either quad mags or gold quints

[remote nacelle]

Alright, so that and generic Unicorn build...

I'll work on it and see. Thanks!

[mellow cape]

This is her augment, you can get it any time. Ibuki is from PR researc

[knotty dome]

was ibuki always good at this, assuming the barrage procced?

[dreamy blade]

her double torp preload was always good but her augment gave her a barrage that makes her great

[whole stump]

Once I finish this entire tree I get the retrofit version of her?

[dreamy blade]

specifically the "modernization" step

you can ignore the rest to save resources if it's just for the rookie missions

[woven star]

modernization node - retrofit. last node unlock her retro skill

[whole stump]

So no need to unlock the others?

[mellow cape]

How do I get the 533 improved torps?

[woven star]

#gameplay-help message

[plain saffron]

it's recommended to finish all

[unkempt widget]

are these three fleets any good?

[mellow cape]

Nj flag

[whole stump]

Did not see this lol thank u

[viscid swift]

pretty meh tbh