gameplay-help

[cobalt gate]

just ranger and frontrow dd

i don't have trouble with b3 but b2 is killing me for some reason

[river junco]

Did your vanguard or main fleet die?

[cobalt gate]

vanguard died, but the issue is the boss seems way harder to kill than its suppose to be to be honest

is it suppose to be worse than b3?

[river junco]

I just ran B2 with a low oil 1:1, gonna check B3 with the same

[cobalt gate]

ok

[viscid swift]

I just run a 5 oil fleet

you pay extra oil but it's dead consistent

[stark quiver]

I do 1:1 b3

I should prob oath my farm fleets for more consistency

[river junco]

which ships do you use?

[viscid swift]

Ranger, Cassin, Downes

do not underestimate how much an extra main gun mount helps here

[river junco]

ah, extra dd

yeah, b2 boss seems to have more ships

[viscid swift]

because the sooner you clear the pre boss mobs, the more your cross fleets hit the boss

[cobalt gate]

i see so i was right b2 is harder than b3 for low oil

[strange heron]

hello can somebody help me building fleet?

[viscid swift]

sure, how long have you been playing and what do you have to work with

[strange heron]

Well i been playing the game for a longtime but last time google doesnt support azurelane anymore so my main acc was gone lol

I started new one this month

[cobalt gate]

so is anyone else in need of meta material for rld and fp? or its my issue

[viscid swift]

you didn't bind your account at all?

[strange heron]

Well nope i lost my screenshots as well cause its on the old phone

[viscid swift]

well make sure you do that this time

starter fleet can be found here along with a lot of other useful info
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[strange heron]

Alrightt thanks

[torn salmon]

how do i get to SP and EX on the current event it doesnt seem to open after finishing B3 nor after the story?

[mild sail]

Clear D3

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[torn salmon]

...thats where they moved it...

[stable sorrel]

Sorry, I have just played the game for 3 days, just reached lv 30 and open the shipyard mode in the Lab. I saw a red dot on the tab and click in but nothing happened and this pop-up showed up. What can I do to get through this?

[river yoke]

i have 15-4 safe on 3 stars yet im struggling with full auto boss, any idea for boss fleet?

[soft raft]

Exactly what this says here
but at the same time, you can afford to not really give much of a shit about research until at earliest W9

Give this a read if you havent already as well btw
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[viscid swift]

well what are you using currently and what do you have to work with?

[river yoke]

i dont have aquila or painleve (boss fleet)

this is mob and its working fine, mob fleet even solos 13-4 hard all enemies

[stark quiver]

Musashi off flag moment

[viscid swift]

well you don't have much in the way of AA(relatively speaking), the vanguard isn't that tanky(read Shima) and you don't have much in the way of healing

[stark quiver]

[river yoke]

you got any ideas?

[viscid swift]

well what other ships do you have to work with

there are dozens of ways to improve it but most may or may not be doable by you

[river yoke]

idk what do you have on 15-4 boss? maybe i can or i cant

[viscid swift]

okay let me rephrase the question then

of the relevant URs and SRs, which ones do you not have maxed

[river yoke]

i dont have bismark, implacable,unzen AND ulrich,raffaello,yorktown,mogador not maxed

[viscid swift]

do you have Eldridge retro, Laffey 2, Zuiho, Klaudia, etc

[river yoke]

i dont have zuiho and klaudia

[viscid swift]

right then try this
Mob: Kearsarge, Unicorn, Volga, Laffey 2, San Diego, Z52
Boss: Musashi, Nahkimov, Amagi, Guam, Shimanto, Eldridge retro

gear may or may not also need work

[river yoke]

mm i can try

in auto i say musashi lacking cuz of smoke

[viscid swift]

what

[river yoke]

the smoke on boss

she missess a lot on auto

[storm heron]

and on manual*

[viscid swift]

well if you're firing into smoke pretty much every BB would have the same issue

[sweet delta]

[river yoke]

manual i already can 3 stars no problem

is implacable good btw?

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

in 15-4 auto, boss is fighting 3 times right? tho without the red eye

[viscid swift]

yes

[river yoke]

yes

the BB mob is super tough

[sweet delta]

Replacing kearsarge with soyuz to cross fleet for the boss

[river yoke]

i tried but unfortunately my mob fleet is just right on AA, i dont have +13 UR AA

[viscid swift]

considering the ships I doubt it's the lack of 76mms that's the issue

[balmy kiln]

Any way to get Scylla right now or am i still waiting for a rerun/permanent pool

[viscid swift]

you're still waiting for Implacable's event to rerun

[river yoke]

tx for advice btw

[sweet delta]

You're waiting for Scylla rerun in March

[river yoke]

what about rodney meta?

[viscid swift]

you're waiting for her to be added to the dossier

[river yoke]

yes

[viscid swift]

which is still a few months off at least

[river yoke]

is there a list for ships by type (vanguard protectors,vanguard healers,main healers, damage dealers ecc)?

[lapis linden]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[lapis linden]

i think rankings for endgame

[river yoke]

nice tx

[soft raft]

there's also Sam's fleet building guide for some examples
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[thorny basalt]

D3 can still drop the event shop ship right? I haven't gotten one in forever

[stark quiver]

Yes

[thorny basalt]

Oh good, maybe this event I'll finally get one.

[soft raft]

That will be up to RNGesus to decide

[thorny basalt]

Indeed

Sitting on 19k points and I really don't want to spend 8k on the ship lol

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

you gotta get to at least 30k anyways to get the free UR Bullin

So who knows

[stark quiver]

I dropped mine on my b3 clear

[uncut wren]

Can someone give me some advice for Raffaello equipment?

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

Same as with basically 99% of the BBs in the game

also dont use her if she's not MLB

[uncut wren]

Ye shes mlb

[stark quiver]

Just standard bb equip
Champy/newURgun/mk7
Plymouth gun
Twin 76 AA
Afct
White shell

[uncut wren]

What is Plymouth gun?

[eager mulch]

Prototype quan 152mm

quad

[solid pollen]

ägirs 2nd skill talks about high caliber guns, how can i tell what caliber an equipment is?

[sweet delta]

Currently, it is 283mm or higher

[sweet delta]

/wiki large cruiser

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Large_Cruiser_Guns

[tiny scaffold]

does anyone have a meowofficer upgrade guide? Idk what to do with them, talent points are hard to pick

[solid pollen]

thx

[tiny scaffold]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[worldly pewter]

[stark quiver]

#bot-spam next time pls

[eager mulch]

wtf wall of text

[tiny scaffold]

didnt know it was this long

[little tree]

How good is the Italian sub the new one

[tiny scaffold]

T0 mob

[little tree]

Time to level

[tiny scaffold]

thats what they said in tier list prelim….

[little tree]

Tier list i use is 6 month out of date.

[ivory pawn]

She's basically around the same level as DaVinci.
Or in other words, still worse than Fishpack.

[stark quiver]

Not good enough

[grave ridge]

Hey peeps
Is this a good AA?

[reef flume]

Yes, better used on BBs tho

[turbid marsh]

i would say no its not a good aa, its better to use the ones with 15 hit for bbs

[grave ridge]

Also, i know the new event bb gun is op but would it fit for biscuit 2

[reef flume]

It would yeh

[grave ridge]

Thanks again

[little tree]

I cant run fish pack so wolf pack it is then still

[rigid onyx]

only for Anti medium bossing

[thin nova]

when I need some gold from tech boxes, is it better to merge them to purple or just open white and blue ones?

[sweet delta]

It's faster to run 12-4

But if you're out of oil and have time, then gray boxes give more coins in total but take 25x as long to get through

Merging to purple loses some coins but is much faster

[thin nova]

is it worth the time tho

I opened 200 purple tech boxes to get 2k coins

[sweet delta]

I can open and scrap 100 boxes per minute

[thin nova]

well, I just need some to get 40k, it's ok

I dont mind losing some coins, I will just merge

[river yoke]

not really actually, its mid

[kind needle]

Is maryland kai or Colorado kai good or still dogshit?

[river yoke]

u mean colorado retrofit?

[kind needle]

yes

[river yoke]

bad

[sweet delta]

Outside of top 10 gold BBs I suppose

[river yoke]

@viscid swift tx i did it, perseus(any healer is ok,the only one i had) for musashi and laffey 2 for shima, i can full auto 15-4 now

[sweet delta]

Interesting

[viscid swift]

sounds cursed af

[river yoke]

but it works

[sweet delta]

Is 15-4 Auto search really hard?

I thought +22% DMG dealt and -35% DMG taken would make it trivial

[viscid swift]

apparently Guam, San Diego, and Z52 weren't enough AA

[river yoke]

on manual its easy, but on auto the main fleet doesnt sync with humanoids in mob fleets and they take lots of damage, manual and auto fleets have to be different...

[sweet delta]

[river yoke]

on lethal i dont even know if its possible

[viscid swift]

well no sh*t

it is possible, we've been auto clearing W15 since day 1 pretty much

without the likes of Guam, Laffey 2, Z52, Eldridge retro, FS5 Shimanto, Sandy's augment, UR AA guns, etc

[river yoke]

are they ever adding 16?

[viscid swift]

who knows, probably though

[tame jungle]

we are not the devs but probably yes

[river yoke]

id be happy, it means more coins

[hollow gust]

What's the best possible auto w15-4 comp? Cause my boss comp isn't doing BBB correctly

[river yoke]

depends on gear u have

[hollow gust]

I have anything and everything

[viscid swift]

meh, not really, even still if you're gonna farm coins I wouldn't look further than 13-4

[river yoke]

isnt oil per coin ratio getting better on 14/15-4?

[viscid swift]

14-4 is only marginally better than 13-4 and 15-4 is worse because you have to fight 3 bosses

[sweet delta]

15-4 coin/oil is 📉

[river yoke]

ah

[viscid swift]

and considering 13-4 is easier and faster to farm than 14-4

[river yoke]

bruh

[viscid swift]

though I don't bother going past 12-4 for farming

[river yoke]

i use 12-4 for xp, what do you use for xp?

[tame jungle]

when in doubt, 12-4

[viscid swift]

I do 12-1 for XP, coins, and cog chips

[kind needle]

I farm 13-4.

[hollow gust]

14-4 allows you to spam 300k gold in a day or two

[river yoke]

what

[hybrid pelican]

What is the best Torp to use with Unzen? on auto and on Pvp

[kind needle]

In terms of efficiency, is 13-4 better than 12-4 or 14-4?

[viscid swift]

Improved quad mags and she's not meta for PvP

[polar lion]

W13-1 is ez enuf you can still throw stuffs for fleet tech farming and double the chips income vs 12

[hybrid pelican]

What is the meta por pvp?

[viscid swift]

Eldridge retro, Jintsuu META, Laffey 2

Also if you want an illustration of how useless fleet power is as a metric

[river yoke]

i havent ever minmaxed cats, are they good or marginal?

[storm heron]

mid cats can buff fleets by like 10-20%

min maxed perfect cat is good but very limited in use case

[polar lion]

Flat 6% dmg buff and dmg taken reduction and not even take other precious stats they can give liek rld on your CVs and BBs makes them really desirable for min maxers

[river yoke]

nice

[forest palm]

the equivalent of putting lip stick on a pig

[river yoke]

kasumi is cute

what torps u use for subs

[forest palm]

Bidder

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[errant wing]

(have basically all UR not mentioned MLB) so who should i mlb nxt? mogador, z52, fritz, or raffaello

[storm heron]

I like z52

[forest palm]

52

[errant wing]

ty

[stark quiver]

[fluid compass]

Hey, how do you know what armor ships have in the stage you're doing? I did the armor bot tag, but it just talked about guns for each armor.

[south sequoia]

Just going off the original ships hull is enough to determine
cl, dd - light armor
ca, cv - medium armor
bb - heavy armor
the ones I mentioned above are the most common armor types for their hull, there are some exceptions sometimes like mogami being a ca but having light armor, or taihou being a cv but having heavy armor

its better to always double check with wikipedia if you aren't always sure about armor

[fluid compass]

Ah ok. So if I go into a 3 triangle battleship escort, I can assume they have heavy armor? And if it's a destroyer escort fleet, they have light?

Or does it depend on ship type within the escort? Like, the "Pawn" ship has light, and the "Rook" has heavy?

[south sequoia]

Yes, but it isnt always a guarantee every ship in that battle will be a specific type of armor, worlds will spawn in ships of different hull types in there

[vale spindle]

slash wiki list of ships by stats

[fluid compass]

Ok. I'm trying to start tailoring my guns to the stages, so this is a good start. Thanks!

[eager mulch]

/wiki list of ships by stats

[fluid compass]

Ok, thanks. I'll try that.

[queen jackal]

between rumey raff and implac who get bulin? can mlb 2

[storm heron]

rumey vs raff

[stark quiver]

implac

for now

[hallow mountain]

is there a better way to get 500 blueprints for Kearsage

[viscid swift]

compared to research, no you don't have many other options period

[hallow mountain]

FUCK

[storm heron]

is it worth holding mlb implac until event? in case 44 pulls do wonders

[stark quiver]

what if those 44 pulls do not do wonders?

[viscid swift]

may as well

[stark quiver]

and i dont se implac in the ss so id assume they dont have them yet

[queen jackal]

yeah dont have, i have enough cubes to get raff and implac tho

[viscid swift]

you may not have enough to gurantee both, doesn't mean you still can't get both

[queen jackal]

wym

[viscid swift]

well you don't exactly need to hit pity on both banners to get them do you

[queen jackal]

no, but i have enough to guarantee both anyways

[viscid swift]

so yeah, Implac and Rumey

I don't see a role for Raffaello anytime soon, maybe in October, we'll see

[storm heron]

I heard that she's like second to musashi in camp mob

[polar lion]

Who's 3rd?

[stark quiver]

anotehr UR bb

[storm heron]

might or might not exist

[sweet delta]

But their only bbs are fdg and Musashi, would not a third be useful for bossing?

[storm heron]

would be one hell of a light bossing team

[viscid swift]

honestley between the CVs for the time being I don't really see Raffaello contributing much in that regard

also trying to be conscious of the fact after Implac it's Zwei that's due to be rerun

[exotic wren]

Who to mlb first? (Or after finishing z52)

What you staring at you schizophrenic doggo

[storm heron]

imo raffaelo

[exotic wren]

..should I try to get dupes of her in this banner? I'm kinda desperate for UR Bulins and I can stockpile for atleast 3-4 months before next UR

[stark quiver]

how many cubes do u have

[storm heron]

I heard it is like 152 cubes for a dupe on average

a simulation run assuming the drop rate and considering spark by uto

[stark quiver]

i heard it takes 400 cubes to get a dupe

[stark quiver]

and no dont pull for dupes

[storm heron]

would you spend 152 cubes and like uhh, 114k coins for a bulin

[exotic wren]

What's the UR Bulin count again? Was it 16 per year?

[storm heron]

no, iirc you get on average 2.33 UR bulins per month

[stark quiver]

where is 2.33 per month

[ivory pawn]

1.5 per month from core + medal, .5 per month from Cruise, and 1 per UR event.

[stark quiver]

[exotic wren]

Eh, so anyways I have 4 purins coming so raffaello?

[stark quiver]

dont ehh me stig

[exotic wren]

Ehh, oh sushi senpai

[stark quiver]

yeh

[eager mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/912786051179884614.gif?size=16

[eager mulch]

you should check the ex leaderboards

[stark quiver]

i did
and im rank 1 with 20k score

[eager mulch]

made you look

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

messages are disappearing

what do people use for high ex scores these days

[sweet delta]

The joystick

[stark quiver]

my joystick

i used 3 ijn cv + helena

[exotic wren]

All I see is a button

[storm heron]

I used cleveland, but I am upgrading Kent to try reach 6.4k

[eager mulch]

this guy got 20k and you’re aiming for 6.4k?

[storm heron]

also my level 1 helena is fully enhanced so there's room for improvement

also after I get the core data Imma try using level 1 beacon instead of the level 7 I accidentally upgraded

[stark quiver]

tryhards

[storm heron]

there's so much room for improvement

lmk if u have any EX related gph questions

[sweet delta]

You should also go get max tech

[storm heron]

true

[viscid swift]

give it a few years and you'll get there

[storm heron]

how much points does Chinese players do in EX?

[sweet delta]

Is WolfCybre the best EX player in EN?

The average is probably like 4k

[sharp socket]

people play EX?

[stark quiver]

20k

[stark quiver]

hi how do i turn on manual

[harsh verge]

Shinano

[stark quiver]

maybe getting two UR bbs will be a beter option

[stark quiver]

then u gotta comapre to how many people actaully tryhard ex

[unborn owl]

what's raffaleo timer build?

[stark quiver]

5:40.10

[unborn owl]

well i thought it's 5:50

[eager mulch]

no

no

[rigid onyx]

no

[zenith pebble]

no

[tight yarrow]

is there a way to know where Tashkent summon on the field? her skill said summon at start of battle but i dont see anything

[hollow gust]

its a small fairy next to her

[sharp socket]

the fairy shoots diamond bullets iirc

[hollow gust]

Also for pure cube gain, the 10 hour ones are kinda peak

[vale cradle]

Is musashi worth mlb with bullins

[hollow gust]

Yes

[warm flax]

How to get 7k power on NJ

[forest palm]

+13 Rainbow Gear, at which point is useless, cause power is a useless metric

[viscid swift]

Oath, more +13

[hollow gust]

Honestly not the worst gear , only problem is the flag

[forest palm]

shiny trash

100 kai doesn't give 35 FP so eh...

460, 100 Kai, and Mikasa Flag would all go if you're looking to make something practical

[sweet delta]

Bowgun 🚮

What tech are you missing?

[hollow gust]

Damn , some AA HP and EVA

[forest palm]

138 is so wasted there

[hollow gust]

I finished CV, BB I can't be assed to get a few points

[forest palm]

BB is so easy la

[viscid swift]

imagine not being done with main fleet tech

[hollow gust]

I have been grinding with Italian fleet lmao, the rest the tech aren't worth it

[viscid swift]

just do them in the downtime when there's no main fleets left to level

[forest palm]

Andrea, and Raph are literally the only 2 main fleet ships I have left to Lv to 120

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

2 slots wasted smh

[hollow gust]

Faster though

[forest palm]

in content that's already easier than pissing out water

[main stag]

i have a question whats better wyvern or tenrai?

[viscid swift]

For the record
407 ships at 120/125 and 67 ships with XP to get to 125

[viscid swift]

Context?

[warm flax]

Question is, when do you run two dive bombers

[viscid swift]

Pretty much never if you can avoid it

[main stag]

i have a wyvern and tenrai but i dont know which i need more

[viscid swift]

Well the mats don't really overlap and you'd want at least one more of each

[main stag]

okay thats nice to know

[balmy skiff]

how good is rafa as of now

[viscid swift]

She's good but a bit redundant currently

[balmy skiff]

is rafa on levels of sushi,biszwei,soyuz and alsace?

[viscid swift]

She's like top 2 mobbing BBs but I don't see her displacing Musashi

Her single target damage as far as UR bbs go isn't that impressive

[balmy skiff]

but i use Sushi for bossing stuff

[main stag]

is the triple 234 worth building?

[viscid swift]

It would be close to the bottom of the priority list

[balmy skiff]

not mobbing.
mobbing? i only use fred the great

[balmy skiff]

rafa alongside who?

[viscid swift]

For campaign? Musashi would be much more valuable in the mob fleet

[viscid swift]

For what

[zenith pebble]

ima lick you

[rapid grail]

Least helpful gph comment

[zenith pebble]

🇷🇺

[viscid swift]

have you looked at what channel you're in

[zenith pebble]

i just found you

[viscid swift]

what

[zenith pebble]

how did you know implaceable is gonna be here in march?

[stark quiver]

it doesnt matter, stop saying random shit to my cheeky
and if u wanna mess around do that in #al-general

[viscid swift]

they announced it in the last livestream

[polar lion]

Next meta will be added to dossier after taihoM ends?

[forest palm]

they'll announce who it is before the event ends

[polar lion]

Aight

[zenith pebble]

besides the ur, are the other event ships worth?

[stark quiver]

tech and collection
the sub is on par with da vinci , equal/worse by a bit

[zenith pebble]

and since i already run wolf pack, theres probably no point besides techs

[stark quiver]

andrea doria meta is +1bb fp
bartomoleo is +1 cl fp

[zenith pebble]

oh yeah

[stark quiver]

and yes wolfpack is superior, pull extra for collection

[zenith pebble]

i just have andrea meta to pull but is she on par with the other metas?

[stark quiver]

kinda, just your average/good gold BB in a world of UR bbs

[stark quiver]

dont pull for her, shes in shop and a drop on b3/d3
and dont buy her yet either, since you have a chance to drop her in the upcomming weeks
just save 8k event currency in case

[zenith pebble]

oh

so im basically done with the events then, ive already got the gun

[stark quiver]

there are other valuable resources in shop
like the oil,augment cores, maybe bps if u didnt do pr7 yet, and most importantly, cog chips, get them so you wont regret in the the future

[zenith pebble]

i think i have aroun 6k of the chips

[stark quiver]

cognitive chips or arrays

[zenith pebble]

iirc

ill double check after sortie

[rigid onyx]

if you have to check it's not the arrays

[south sequoia]

Any tests on raffy yet?

Dps output or utility, anything

[viscid swift]

no one has her skills maxed yet still

[rigid onyx]

why would there be tests on a ship with unmaxed skills

[zenith pebble]

its been over a couple days, im sure theres someone with maxed everything on raffy

[south sequoia]

Usually by around this time with enough 🌈 books there would be tests since not all of the skills will be testing for damage output

[stark quiver]

if its arrays then ig ur fine, still get them so u can uncap more ships in future
if its normal cogs, then you need them, once you start grinding tech, that 6k is gonna be gone in few weeks, youll need hundreds or thousands

[wind hazel]

i've been using rainbows on her and still not maxed skills

[viscid swift]

this time all 3 of her skills relate to damage in some way

[south sequoia]

Not even 1?

[wind hazel]

1.7 ish

[south sequoia]

Ah, looks like it wont be another for a week

[stark quiver]

physically impossible unless hacker, there are set amt of times to how fast u can upgrade skills

[wind hazel]

paper maths isn't favouring her either way

[viscid swift]

though if I'm being honest, if she was removed from the game tomorrow I doubt we'd notice a difference in current content

[zenith pebble]

next time ur ill try to test it if i can

no idea where to test her damage output

[stark quiver]

this is why i never do paper math

[viscid swift]

she wants to try and replace Musashi in campaign mob fleets but I doubt she'll manage it

[stark quiver]

idt she can

[south sequoia]

Last I recalled her damage reduction is fp specific iirc? So not as general as musashi, though I may be wrong because last time I checked it was before live En ssrvers.

[zenith pebble]

ill try to buy the entire shop out then because nothings worng with more

[strong tartan]

fp specific yea

[viscid swift]

that would be a waste of time and oil

[stark quiver]

at that point youre wasting oil, realistically youd want at most 55k pts for the last of the selector gold plates in milestone, unless you farm toolkits like me
get enough pts to get what you need and go back to grinding tech in 12-1/4

[zenith pebble]

i havent started w14 because i wanna max all my ships out first, so i have mo idea what to do with 6k worth of oil

i forgot opsi just restarted lmao

[stark quiver]

farm tech in 12-1

[zenith pebble]

been doing that on 13-2

or would 12-1 be statisically better?

[stark quiver]

12-1 will be better because of its leniency, when farming tech, a lot of your ships youll be grinding with are bad ships

[wind hazel]

12-1 allows you to raise 12 ships at once

i imagine you need at least 2 carry per fleet on 13-2

unless you awaken all of them to 110~115 or something

[zenith pebble]

ive been autoing with musashi, shinano, and haku

[stark quiver]

youre wasting a lot of xp
and not even farming tech

[south sequoia]

Sounds like a big waste of xp

[wind hazel]

also why 13-2

[south sequoia]

Something something cog chip farm

[zenith pebble]

[stark quiver]

something something i have cog but no xp

[molten zinc]

But isn't 13-1 have better cog rate?

[zenith pebble]

i just randomly chose 13-2

[stark quiver]

i think so, but its harder and needs carry/s

[south sequoia]

[stark quiver]

crazy strats

[molten zinc]

[zenith pebble]

i thought 13-2 gave more exp no?

[south sequoia]

More exp for more oil

But its noy enough more exp to justify more oil

[zenith pebble]

i think ive been using 1.9 oil per run?

and have been increasing my shipyard exp by 8% per auto sortie?

[viscid swift]

doesn't sound brilliant if I'm honest

[zenith pebble]

what you recommend

[viscid swift]

the numbers are all on the wiki and such but statistically there's no reason to farm 13-2

for just XP, 12-1 all the way

[zenith pebble]

because more enemies?

i always just do auto repeat and sortie

[viscid swift]

no because it's much easier and has better XP to oil efficiency

also for the record, 12 ships leveling up at once in W12 is the way to go

[zenith pebble]

ill try that when my fleet gets more happy

i also just use 4 ships for every fleet, shouldnt be too much of an issue

[wind hazel]

huh!?

[zenith pebble]

i mean, shipyards are always "use vanguard" or "use main"

[molten zinc]

[wind hazel]

yeah but what do you mean just 4

[zenith pebble]

3 main or vanguard, 1 other ship

[viscid swift]

no matter how you interpret that, it's not good

oil caps exist, why aren't you running full fleets

[wind hazel]

but why... it's oil capped

[zenith pebble]

damn, so always just use 6 per fleet?

[wind hazel]

for w9 and above yes

[viscid swift]

yes, do you know what an oil cap does?

[zenith pebble]

okie

[little tree]

[elder lily]

Is TBM avenger and the triple 152mm B 38 good

[polar lion]

12-1 no need healer to survive all mobs?

[zenith pebble]

id recommend you have unicorn, didnt go well with me when i didnt use her

[eternal moth]

Once you have it on safe you probably don't need a healer, but if you're on your initial clear I would really recommend one

[viscid swift]

allow me to be blunt, unironically a repair ship is a better carry than Unicorn in 12-1

[polar lion]

Well they said we can raise 12 ships at 12-1 meaning no Unikai so that got me interested

[zenith pebble]

akashi being better than unicorn??????

thats something i never thought id see

[eternal moth]

Once it's on safe you don't need a healer.

[wind hazel]

yes, i raised over 500 ships at 12-1. 12-1 is my surname, i can confirm you don't need healer

ok maybe not 500 but close

[polar lion]

Dope, gonna try dat after I'm done with event

[viscid swift]

the biggest hurdle is the out-of-ammo node, Akashi eliminates that entirely
she's also rather good for AA taking care of that threat and because she deals no surface damage she usually won't steal MvP

[eternal moth]

Personally, I typically use 12-4 instead of 12-1, but you can use worse fleets on 12-1

[elder lily]

Can anyone send me the core shop guide

[mortal wraith]

mb for interrupting but is this an emulator issue

ic ty

[wind hazel]

bluestacks?

[mortal wraith]

ye

[zenith pebble]

i dont think ldplayer does that

[viscid swift]

pretty much none o that was done with Unicorn

[wind hazel]

ye it's pretty common on BS

[viscid swift]

except briefly when I went to 13-1 and 14-1

[mortal wraith]

ic ty

[wind hazel]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[polar lion]

U level 12 ships at 12-4?

[elder lily]

Thanks

[mortal wraith]

maybe time to switch to ldplayer

[wind hazel]

give mumu12 a try

[eternal moth]

Well, you can level at least 6. Your boss fleet is never going to gain a massive amount of XP

[viscid swift]

yeah allow me to be blunt, you're far from new
you should be able to more than adequately gear any ships you level to clear 12-1/12-4 on safe with ease

[zenith pebble]

once you exit the computer may lack frames for 2 seconds and everything becomes normal

thats the only problem ive encountered

[viscid swift]

you have more Plymouth guns than me actually

[wind hazel]

how many do you have

[viscid swift]

5

[wind hazel]

wtf both have more than me...

[zenith pebble]

whwich one plymouth gun

[eternal moth]

PR5 rainbow CL gun

[elder lily]

Don't see the TBM avenger
Is it good?

[viscid swift]

which one

[fickle hollow]

How good/bad is the new UR?

[viscid swift]

not that good and certainly not worth the core data

[warm flax]

Is the latest rainbow AA gun the same with French one

[versed forum]

how many rudder and tookits do I need?

[wind hazel]

it's better

[viscid swift]

you need 0, I'd want at least 6 of each, easily double that for comfort and to save hassle swapping gear every time

[fickle hollow]

[zenith pebble]

i was waiting for belfast to answer that but id get it

[viscid swift]

I mean what do you want as a point of comparrison

[stark quiver]

shes good in mob, not good in bossing, prob wont replace old meta

[viscid swift]

she could be removed tomorrow from the game and I doubt we'd feel any loss in the capabilities of fleets for current content

[stark quiver]

nonetheless, shes still a UR bb level tho

[rigid onyx]

isn't that a tautology for every single new UR

kinda a misuse of the term

[stark quiver]

but what he means is it doesnt change any meta

[zenith pebble]

oh i thought homie was talking about the ur gun

[viscid swift]

what

[fickle hollow]

[stark quiver]

she didnt give any comp a higher damage cieling like amagi cv

nor did she redefine aa carry like guam/laff

[zenith pebble]

if its the gun, get it. if its the ship, still get it but wont beat meta

[fickle hollow]

By the end on this Month i will have 8 UR bulins so should i Mlb her?

[zenith pebble]

no

do yorktown or nj

[stark quiver]

why

[viscid swift]

I mean most URs have either raised the ceiling of existing comps, improved the consistency of said comps, have just proven to be incremental improvements, and/or have offered a completely unique package or capabilities

[stark quiver]

theyre lacking UR bbs, and raf is prob slightly higher than nj, and even if not, nj is perma

[viscid swift]

Raffaello is among the few URs to not do any of those

[stark quiver]

youd be a fool to use bulins on a perma ship

thats not named shinano*

[viscid swift]

at least in a capacity that's particularly relevant

[zenith pebble]

damn, im a fool

i dont have any other ship i can mlb rn anyway

[polar lion]

Agreed

[fickle hollow]

Then i guess i will use the bulins to Mlb her then Wait for implacable rerun and use the other 4 bulins

[zenith pebble]

mbl raff?

[rigid onyx]

technically new players have to skip mlb'ing 1-2 gacha URs per (discounting perma) so If raffa shapes up to be extraneous she could be the one to skip, but at the same time new players are the exact type of player that doesn't have the current meta (whatever that is)

[sharp socket]

true i have skipped mog and she remains to be skipped still

[rigid onyx]

A campaign mobber is inherently a somewhat niche role that's already competed for by the purin-free FdG and the already proven musashi, though, so even if raffa's mobbing capabilites are better or worse than musashi (I haven't seen anything convincing of either, to be honest), she doesn't hold the highest value

[wind hazel]

UR ship is very good to new player, that's it

[zenith pebble]

yes

compared to pulling a specific ship

[stark quiver]

isnt that what cheeky was saying

[wind hazel]

it is

[sharp socket]

mob bb is useful for those that dont have sushi

[stark quiver]

is this man seeing red

[wind hazel]

maybe

[sharp socket]

and indeed sushi wont be coming back anymore until she gets perma'ed

[zenith pebble]

"better run when i see red"

[storm heron]

her personal damage is just under NJ too, better than all gold bbs

[viscid swift]

still not sure what exactly the point is

[stark quiver]

same

did bro just argue against himself and lose

[zenith pebble]

[rigid onyx]

i mean the statement that any ship a week from release could be removed from the game and no compositions would change is true for every ship in the game currently

[viscid swift]

hardly

[wind hazel]

[rigid onyx]

or rather, a ship who depends on all skills being maxed

[viscid swift]

one, that was very obviously meant to be a bit of tongue and cheek(it's in my name)

[stark quiver]

cheeky using strong words

[zenith pebble]

specifically when would implaceable return? after this event?

[stark quiver]

maybe a week after idk

[zenith pebble]

i thought al always did a 2 week break, did they stop doing that?

[viscid swift]

the point I was trying to make is that Raffaello as she currently stands for current content does not offer any particular capabilities that vastly improve comps for existing content

[rigid onyx]

whenever I read this channel I see a bunch of people using verbiage that makes sense to each other instead with extensive context without ever providing the context tbh

[stark quiver]

it wasnt always , yk2 rerun was a week after fritz run

[viscid swift]

at the longest I'd say 2 weeks

[zenith pebble]

[stark quiver]

whenever i see you type something
, i see you misinterpret every single word in a sentence and decide to argue about every last bit of detail

[viscid swift]

here's a tip, maybe don't take everything at face value and try and see the intent?

[rigid onyx]

I mean isn't that the whole point of a new-player-help channel? To not have to read through the intent of a sentence?

[viscid swift]

like, not everything we say is right but this nitpicking of word choice over something that doesn't even matter to the overall larger point does absolutely nothing

[stark quiver]

when did this become a new player help only channel

[zenith pebble]

nagato is still a good boss buffer right?

[viscid swift]

this is hardly only for new players

[sharp socket]

(i have no idea whats happening except it includes uto again)

[stark quiver]

in the nichest of cases

[rigid onyx]

and I'm the one being semantic, apparently

[viscid swift]

heck, it's often as much about vets discussing things between each other as it is helping new players

[stark quiver]

like gph helping me out every few days

[zenith pebble]

and helping me set up a fleet for w14

[stark quiver]

by nichest of cases i mean i use her at lvl 1 and 10 skill for ex bosses

[viscid swift]

also here's the thing, when you're a regular, you remember people and roughly where they are in the game

[zenith pebble]

[viscid swift]

so I at least change up the way I explain things depending on who I respond to

because to be blunt, explaining everything down to the last detail is time consuming and exhausting and if I don't need to I really won't bother doing so

[sharp socket]

i hope goose remembers i dont have unzen before telling me to use her for the 4th time

[zenith pebble]

damn

[rigid onyx]

I don't understand the perspective of explaining how good Raffa if you have every UR in the game when I'm fairly sure that most people asking that question don't have every UR in the game

[viscid swift]

you would be suprised

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

well there's also nothing wrong with how cheeky responded. raff is indeed weaker than most UR in the game, that's a fact

[viscid swift]

because not everyone is in here 24/7 anaylzing her stats and skills or listening on what people think of the new UR

[wind hazel]

saying raff is weak and can be removed and nothing changes, doesn't mean someone shouldn't invest in her either

[viscid swift]

there's quite a lot of people here with a lot or most of the URs in the game who ask such questions

[zenith pebble]

she may be someones waifu

[wind hazel]

in the end that person who asked the question has enough UR bulin to mlb raff and implacable

[stark quiver]

i like how we probably scared him off

oh we didnt

[fickle hollow]

[storm heron]

ah, being young

[zenith pebble]

mbl implaceable, not raff

[stark quiver]

or do both

[fickle hollow]

why not both

[rigid onyx]

What my perspective is is that sometimes additional true information can lead people to incorrect decisions. The latter half of the conditional is not led to at all without additional context.

[zenith pebble]

sometimes people dont have enough resources to mbl both

[wind hazel]

what our perspective is, you're overcomplicating something very simple

[stark quiver]

youre lacking UR bb, raf prob will be a good addition, nj is perma so thats that
you have shinano and amagicv and with implac you can finally do more than 1.2-3m damage in metas

[rigid onyx]

ultimately my (subjective) opinion on the simplest way to describe raffa is just saying she's a mobbing focused rainbow bb

without saying that she probably doesn't push the meta foward

[stark quiver]

she doesnt

[zenith pebble]

oh homie already had mlb implac?

[unreal star]

for the faction fleet tech, do the smaller factions like iris, sardegna, and northern parliament count toward any of the big 4?

[viscid swift]

no

[zenith pebble]

i didnt see that, i just breezed through the not mlb ones

[unreal star]

thanks

[wind hazel]

😭 avis, my friend

[fickle hollow]

i dont have implacable

[wind hazel]

nightfall is gonna mlb raff right now, and when he gets implacable later, he is gonna mlb implacable too 😭

[zenith pebble]

mb yall

[fickle hollow]

i did it #trophy-room message

[zenith pebble]

ive just had too much torpedo juice

[viscid swift]

considering that's something I try to avoid
I will always say explicitly whether or not someone should consider MLBing this, that and such

[stark quiver]

mori with nitro
💍

[wind hazel]

discord free

[plain saffron]

Imagine not having nitro

[zenith pebble]

imagine having money

[plain saffron]

Can't be me

[zenith pebble]

same

[fickle hollow]

I already do 1.2~1.3 with Shinano Amagi Musashi ,with implacable surely i do more than that against Heavy

right?

[stark quiver]

1.4-5m

because your torps have unlocked the super secret ability to fully land

[rigid onyx]

technically depends on fight, but in general shinano amagi(cv) implac is far more consistent than your current fleet for anti heavy

[fickle hollow]

did this yesterday

[wind hazel]

can do more if you offlag amagi, and maybe helena it up

[viscid swift]

well you're lacking a reliable slow, let a lone a root so that's very much not helping

[stark quiver]

iirc you have a good amount of +13s, prob could surpass me

[fickle hollow]

i am not a helena Believer i hate trying to reset the game everytime

[wind hazel]

you're not 1shotting alpha?

[zenith pebble]

can you feed me

[rigid onyx]

helena is probably more consistent than using tbs against a moving enemy with no stop

[stark quiver]

skill issued to the ground

i 4 shot

[wind hazel]

4 cant be real

[stark quiver]

using the remnants of my former fleet doesnt help

[viscid swift]

4 shot or 4 cycle

[nimble knoll]

Does Xp packs affect the Xp needed for shipyard ships?

[wind hazel]

it doesn't contribute

[stark quiver]

if it did id have every ship by now

[nimble knoll]

Sadge

[rigid onyx]

i 4 shot QE meta until i read the gimmick

[stark quiver]

anyways, all my gear including tbs, bombers, and catas, are on my campaign farm fleet and fleet power stat padding

[viscid swift]

can't relate

[wind hazel]

bro really went down that fleet power path...

[stark quiver]

if i cant hit 10k

[viscid swift]

Though I also stopped giving a shit about taiho

[stark quiver]

infact, just for that, ima do a meta run and see how things go

[sharp socket]

cant relate, i 2 shot QE meta before reading and continued to 2 shot

[stark quiver]

i stopped at 25k , not bc i wnana test in the future, because i am lazy
we are different

[wind hazel]

giving up free cogs

[meager tiger]

I need help :<
My SP Stage is still locked on the Current event ;-;

[stark quiver]

free?

[viscid swift]

QE META was me realizing, my fleet tech sucks and then upping it in the 2 years it took to add her to the dossier

[wind hazel]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[stark quiver]

damn beat me to it

[wind hazel]

go and clear d3

[meager tiger]

Oh :<

[stark quiver]

also my bb fleet does more dmg than my cv fleet
funny stuf

[viscid swift]

yeah that pretty much sums it up

[stark quiver]

i do not have enough tech and +13s

but i do have fully oathed backlines

[rigid onyx]

yeah bbs are a lot lower investment than full cvs

and dont quote me on this but im fairly sure tech is a larger damage difference for cvs too

[fickle hollow]

Which UR gear should i go for the BB gun or the CL gun from the protoshop (i have 2 URguns rn ,The NJ gun and the new UR gun and i am saving for my 2nd Tenrai from gear lab) i dont have Champagne gun.

[stark quiver]

i forgot my cv sync

[sweet delta]

get champagne gun

[fickle hollow]

i will get the the Champagne gun during the month end i cant get 25 prints from the shop right away.

[quartz jungle]

I stopped at 45k for the gold cat box

[stark quiver]

that is interesting

guys is 8 cv hit bad as tech

its jover

also i was wrong apparently

[rigid onyx]

isn't hit better to shill than reload for most people

[river junco]

I've played this game for ages but also didn't know what fleet tech was for the longest time, just getting around to focusing on it now. What's the recommendation for getting LV1 ships to ~LV70 to grind in 12-4, shove em in dorm and wait a bit? Also all ships give fleet tech bonuses?

[sharp socket]

rld is good, hit is good, just that rld is easier to get iirc

[storm heron]

without supp barrage?

[stark quiver]

ijn cvs conventially go for 3 strikes so hit is more valuable
some comps for other armors might require 41 cv rld

[stark quiver]

with barrage ofc, 30 avi and 8 hit and little +13s dont help

[storm heron]

unoathed soyuz magi nakh can needs 40 rld to rngically kills

[clear harbor]

Any particular ship I should limit break first?

[sharp socket]

if i had 0 rld i wouldnt be able to sync helena for the 3rd

[stark quiver]

first step is to drop indianapolis

limit break backline first

also new month is new medal shop check what you have as slections

[viscid swift]

books if you have a slot open but no one high enough level to fill it
otherwise I like to passively level up ships in the dorm to save on XP packs

[stark quiver]

when grinding tech your dorm should look smth like this

[river junco]

Just slap down all the trophies?

[stark quiver]

look @ ships

[rigid onyx]

isn't there something about supporting barrages rn in meta fights making it really easy to one shot

[sharp socket]

6 dorm slots

[stark quiver]

i dont whale

[storm heron]

am I grinding tech

[stark quiver]

i see avi and rlds

[storm heron]

rld?

[stark quiver]

and fp and downes for some reason

oh.... thats your farm fleet

why dont you have 3 sets to cycle

[river junco]

I'm not getting what you mean , is it just that all the ships in the dorm will give rld/acc when reaching lv120?

[rigid onyx]

each ships gives a unique stat

not just rld/acc, it also gives fp, eva, hp, etc

[viscid swift]

use a tech tracker, more convenient
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[stark quiver]

yes, what i mean is use ur dorm to level up ships
and only farm when max morale
your dorm ships should be lvl 80-100 by the time you finish a batch

[sharp socket]

i level 2 ships in my dorm to ~90 and the other 6 slots are for the farming fleet, and then change out the lv120 ship for the lv90 ship when needed

[hallow mountain]

is the new italian submarine worth it? i forgot her name but idk if i should try to get her when i already have raffaello

oh wait her name is maggiore

goofy ass name

[wind hazel]

not better than existing options

skip if limited in cubes

[clear harbor]

Oh yeah, sorry, Helena got subbed in for Indy. I forgot this was an old picture.

[clear harbor]

I have less than 10 medals, but I'm hoping to get Enterprise.

She's availble for me this month.

[stark quiver]

thats ur goal, got a whole month to get her

[icy cave]

Will a low oil fleet be faster at clearing D3 then a leveling fleet?

[sharp socket]

D3 has oil cap so dont bother

its also way harder to low oil than say B3

[clear harbor]

Dumb question, how do I get medals? I think I got some through daily missions. Can I farm them somewhere?

[stark quiver]

retiring ships, which you prob shouldnt be doing rn

[sharp socket]

you get them for retiring blue/purple/gold ships

[soft raft]

Scrapping ships
Rare rarity and higher to be specific

[sharp socket]

farming normally youll get blue and purple ships to retire

[clear harbor]

Retiring dulpicates is okay?

[sharp socket]

once you mlb them if you want yes

[clear harbor]

I see I see.

[sharp socket]

you can also retire without doing anything to them but make sure you can get them back easily in case you want to use them, like for example dont retire event ships because they wont come back for 2 years+

[clear harbor]

Makes sense. And reting is the main way to get medals? Any other way?

[sharp socket]

i think dailies has some but not alot, retiring dupes is the main way

[clear harbor]

got it.

I feel like I'm pretty far from being able to farm duplicates to get enough medals, but we'll see.

[sharp socket]

youll get them from just farming, its not very difficult to get enough medals in a month for ships

[clear harbor]

👍

[sharp socket]

for new player you might have some issues cause your oil income isnt great but it should be possible for at least 1 or both ships

[stark quiver]

does my xp/coin per run decrase if i get A rank on boss

[white agate]

A rank should affect only 20% exp bonus iirc

[stark quiver]

[quick mason]

What main gun should I buy from proto for nelson and hood?

[nimble knoll]

This is generally A good Gun, if you don't have any other's, If it's OpSI and Medium Armor, Then Change to Champy Gun/event gun

[quick mason]

I have those equiped

[nimble knoll]

Then you probably don't need to change

[quick mason]

the image what I meant

[quick mason]

Ohhh okay

[eternal basalt]

It can, it affect the lootdrop and shipdrop after all

[worthy oyster]

Quick question what is the best gun to use for he on Anchorage

[river junco]

unzen gun prob

[rapid grail]

he shells against light armor? unzen gun

[worthy oyster]

Okay thanks guys I was just confused since alot of people use the mainz gun

[quick mason]

What does FR/wave means? In BB main gun.

[nimble knoll]

Any good gold thingys here that when I can shud craft?

[vale spindle]

its reload timer

[quick mason]

Ohhh

[vale spindle]

it changes based on the ship its equipped on since reload is based on a lot of things

[quick mason]

Thx thx

[vale spindle]

also it doesn't account for ship skills too so on some ships that have +rld in their skills can be faster

[river junco]

the cb gun can be used on agir, fire control is good for bbs

[worthy oyster]

Bottom left is good

[rapid grail]

hsfcr, pasta aa (top right in screenie)

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[rapid grail]

aegir gun you craft like 3 for the obtainable cbs ingame (against med+heavy armor)

[nimble knoll]

So basically craft those three?

[quick mason]

I really hate slow reload on my bb ;-;

[nimble knoll]

Can u show gear?

[quick mason]

Nah it was the main gun you showed me

18 seconds

[hallow mountain]

what should i buy in the core shop?

[nimble knoll]

How is ur gun firing faster than mine-

[quick mason]

What?

Yeah nelson firing it after 18 seconds

[nimble knoll]

My Nelson fires at 21 seconds-

[quick mason]

Maybe because of the lv 10 auto reloader 🧱

With my unicorn

[stark quiver]

fcr is faster than autoloader

[nimble knoll]

Oh that, Wait do j have shells?

[stark quiver]

[quick mason]

I saw 2 in your image's

[nimble knoll]

Like these

[quick mason]

I put the pendant to nelson instead the shells

[nimble knoll]

Shells are one of the best for general use

[quick mason]

Ahh I use it on my New Jersey

[nimble knoll]

If u can, Buy more shells

[quick mason]

White

And I use the orange to warspite

Isn't the orange is better since nelson is from royal?

[stark quiver]

its a decimal point of better, and sometimes not eve n better

[nimble knoll]

If they don't have anything else better then it's gud

[quick mason]

Ahhh?

[nimble knoll]

An improvement is an Improvement, Even if it's little

[stark quiver]

also a waste of core

[wind hazel]

nelson uses penant+black too isn't it

or penant+table

[zenith pebble]

Is al down ot do i just have shit wifi connection

[nimble knoll]

Might be wifi

[wind hazel]

you're banned just your connection

[zenith pebble]

Yep just wifi connections

[zenith heron]

[nimble knoll]

[storm heron]

[nimble knoll]

-# NomNom Ships

[wind hazel]

Blaster: do you have any question? otherwise #al-general

[visual blaze]

if i buy the bp rn do i go to the same level i am now or do i just start from level 1?

[wind hazel]

same level, and additional stuff from the pass

[loud scarab]

is the wiki down?

[wind hazel]

even extra point if you still aren't at lv100

[visual blaze]

thanks 👍

[wind hazel]

try refreshing, it has hiccups recently

[zenith pebble]

if someone deletes the wiki page for some reason, is there a backup?

[zenith heron]

I know somebody asked this, but Due to Raffa's good Support Capabilities, can she be a Good replacement for Musashi in exchange for lesser Dmg output? (W15 Mob)

[loud scarab]

if i have multiple subs in my sub fleet with the open ocean support skill do they "stack" or can i still only call them from outside the sub zone once?

[wind hazel]

some insight about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE7DMViaJHU

[dreamy blade]

they stack

[bright tusk]

Is giosue and bartolomeo good?

[storm heron]

not as good but still pretty good

[storm heron]

iirc they stack

[storm heron]

they are purple, so definitely below meh level, tho bart is +1 fp

[gusty olive]

Does Open Ocean Support stack?

So if there's 3 subs with those ability, you can call subs outside of range 3 times?

thats nice, too bad I dont have the other Pasta Sub with that skill

[nocturne glade]

When I asked about MLBing raff, shinano or NJ, I got one opinion about raff being a good hoice since I only have 1 other UR BB (fdg), and one about shinano since her crossfleet is good and has a good comp with hakuryuu and indep, and was looking for a third opinion

current URs

[wind hazel]

raff

a BB UR will carry you very far into the campaign

[shell willow]

shinano crossfleet is good?

[wind hazel]

plus shinano is a perma UR... and you heard about her crossfleet wrong, it's dogwater

[zenith pebble]

why people care about perma mlb?

[wind hazel]

i also dont know which troll told you ijn+indep

[south sequoia]

Shinano crossfleet at most is good for chip damage for stuff like opsi mobs and stuff otherwise dont rely on it for beeeg damage

[zenith pebble]

its a genuine question of mine

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[south sequoia]

Uh, reiterate?

Like are you asking why mlb matters or why mlb of perma urs matter(

[zenith pebble]

why people should mlb permas last

because to me, a mlb is just using 4 ur bulin

[uneven cave]

Because most mlb comes from UR bulins and they are better spent on more recent (i.e stronger) URs

It’s a rare resource for newer players

[zenith pebble]

oh

[wind hazel]

UR bulin is time gated, perma UR duplicate is not (not that you should pull for it)

[south sequoia]

Of the current permanent urs in the pool, only one stood the test of time in the expanding landscape of URs
Most of the time the newer shinier URs are better than the very old ones

[wind hazel]

shinano is very much the only exception, but she's still somewhat less priority compare to newer mainfleet URs

[polar lion]

Or u could hold to mlb Implapable instead

[nocturne glade]

i question if Im going to get amplac at all with my current cube count after raff, but I think I can wait a bit on implac if coping with avp is fine

[polar lion]

AvP is fine but implap is just an upgrade in all aspects overall

[nocturne glade]

yea makes sense, better stop and more damage

[polar lion]

Assuming u are Dev lvling FDG for your BB needs

[zenith pebble]

whats the best way to get t3 cruisers

[crimson glacier]

retrofit BPs? do the 2nd stage of the highest hard mode chapter you can beat

[plain saffron]

Campaign Hard mode daily

[nocturne glade]

yep

[wind oxide]

Can i equip Vit-2 on fritz

[shell willow]

in 2nd slot, probably needs mlb though

should you equip? probably not

unless you talk about the parallel one. is it black or white?

[hallow mountain]

what should i buy in the core shop?

[shell willow]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[hallow mountain]

ah ok thanks

i'm actually debating on whether to give Shinano the Ryusei or Breguet (core shop), which should i give her?

[tame jungle]

do you have the high priority coredata items

[hallow mountain]

yup

[tame jungle]

how many sets of shells

[hallow mountain]

but also i think i should get another super heavy

[hallow mountain]

i got two type 1 ap

only one super heavy atm

[shell willow]

ryusei is converging (bossing) while breguet is parallel (mobbing)

[hallow mountain]

oh i see

honestly atm i think my Shinano's better at bossing

[shell willow]

if u use her in campaign bossing you could go 1 parallel 1 converging/1 fighter ig

[hallow mountain]

but i do need another good torpedo mobbing plane

[tame jungle]

honestly just go double barracuda instead or do fighter db parallel torp instead

[hallow mountain]

im planning to do 2x ryusei and one Tenrai for Shinano

[wispy geyser]

so if we know now raffaello is mob only bb how performance she will have in chapters 14 ad 15 in mob flagship role?

[shell willow]

it takes time for people to max her skills before being able to test her properly, for now she just seems to be slightly lower raw damage than your avg ur bb instead with more heal/shield support

[wispy geyser]

i am long long ago finished 15-4 so i was only curious

[fervent temple]

In 15-4
Musashi have more alpha damage and tank damage for your team

Raff have much bigger AOE but less alpha damage
gameplay more about sustainable long fight due to rapid regenerate shield and Heal

which is all very good just different taste

[wispy geyser]

[storm heron]

does bro even know what alpha damage mean?

[fervent temple]

isnt it higher damage per shot ?
or i play too much WOT??

[storm heron]

true I guess

mb bro

[nimble knoll]

How many coins would u need to like, max roon? With coining

[shell willow]

depends on in how many days you wanna be done

[nimble knoll]

Let's say in 1 day or under a week, how much would u need

[shell willow]

found it

[sharp socket]

like 500k

[nimble knoll]

I'm cooked then, Gotta wait

[undone plover]

U really should never do this
Buy 10/day or max 15/day
anything beyond that is griefing yourself

[forest palm]

15 per day itself is rather expensive if you're still not in a healthy position with your coin

[hallow mountain]

Should I buy this?
I have An Shan retrofitted and i had no idea this actually helps her a lot

[forest palm]

sure it's good for all the DDG

[hallow mountain]

aight

[mild sail]

Is b3 worth farming with low cost or I can just auto d3 for the rest of the event

[undone plover]

up to you
b3 is more oil efficient and less xp efficient

[mild sail]

I need the exp

[tame jungle]

then don't do b3

[undone plover]

well just do d3 then
b3 is for ppl who want to finish event with least oil spent
then go back to farm ch12 or ch13 for slightly more cog chips

[mild sail]

👍 thanks guys

[stone sluice]

What’s the experience difference between 12-1 and 12-4?

[sharp echo]

should i retire common that already mlb?

[undone plover]

239 vs 229 so like 5% more efficient for 12-1

[plain saffron]

how about the cog chips(the important one)

[undone plover]

ranger gives avi tech at 120 for all your carriers
retire some commons but I would keep ranger

[undone plover]

~40 vs ~37.5

[sharp echo]

so keep the one that give useful stats?

[undone plover]

and that is if u have dock issues
if no dock issues then no need to retire anyway

useful tech is AVI/FP/RLD/ACC for backline
FP frontline
EVA for cruisers

[eternal basalt]

Well, we have EXACTLY that, and no stories, gear or META ship

[stone sluice]

If 12-1 is more efficient, why people recommend doing 12-4?

[boreal wagon]

yeah that was my point with that message

[tame jungle]

coin

[eager mulch]

coin?

[eternal basalt]

JP liars

[tame jungle]

coin!

[forest palm]

1 is xp leaning, 4 is coin leaning it's that simple

[sharp echo]

also
whats the strats to grind lvl new ships?
insta 70 with book? then grind on which world? 9-1?

[stone sluice]

[forest palm]

I just book ships to 70, and drag them on 12-4

[eager mulch]

there are two worlds inside you, 12-1 is xp leaning, 12-4 is coin leaning 🐺

[tame jungle]

both are addicted to cement

[sharp echo]

can the ships survive high lvl mobs?

[boreal wagon]

just about anything can survive 12-4 if its on safe

[sharp echo]

ooh oke

[forest palm]

if you're struggling there's always 12-1

[inner delta]

/ban 548351664256581635

[tame jungle]

<@&460646206851252224>

[odd root]

yor3553#0 got banned.

[tame jungle]

damn he's fast with it!

[forest palm]

that's a new bot

moving on

[weary wyvern]

I was thinking of retiring all of my Eagle Union, Royal Navy, Sakura Empire, and Iron Blood elite ships as soon as I max limit break them for the tech bonuses (except for my personal favorites, Aurora, and retrofits). Does this sound like it would be a mistake in the future if I wind up needing them for events?

[eager mulch]

damn I missed my chance to get rich quick

[tame jungle]

click here for free amagichan!

[sharp echo]

oh, if lets say im grinding 2 vanguard ship (or main)
do i bring both of them or one at a time?

[eternal basalt]

Sounds like a big mistake

[mild sail]

Will be a big mistake

[tame jungle]

is a big mistake

[mild sail]

It doesn't happen yet

[tame jungle]

has been a big mistake

[muted ember]

I know the answer that y'all gonna say but should I?

[undone plover]

because after a while xp is worthless, and 12-4 is better for gold
and gold is really needed in mid-end game
unless u are a boomer and have all retrofits and tech done

[tame jungle]

if you know the answer you know what to do

[mild sail]

Fdg...

[sharp echo]

^

[undone plover]

in ch12 safe u can level 6 new ships without unicorn

[weary wyvern]

Do you know of any elites that are okay to retire? I've been running out of space, and I can't figure out who I might need.

Would screenshots help? I did already retire a handful of EU and RN elites for this latest event.

[fickle hollow]

does 12-1 give more exp or D-3?

[undone plover]

usually u dont want to level 3 battleships tho
so mix BB and CV if u can
and also triple destroyer is a bad idea

it is possible but u need good gear and crossfleet

[muted ember]

I still don't know if I should save up a little bit more of my protocore for my first Tenrai or just use it for BF-109G which I don't have any either

[tame jungle]

12-1 is a lot better but it also does not give any event points

[undone plover]

are you on pr5+ focus?

[muted ember]

on pr7 rn

[fickle hollow]

i have stopped at 35k event points

[eternal basalt]

Screenshots could work, but I recommennd feed scamcat

[eager mulch]

why

[tame jungle]

i'd say go to 55k (maybe 60k for the dupe) then go back to 12-1/12-4

[undone plover]

I would use protocore for 2x champy gun > 1x flandre gun > 3x bf109 > tenrai tbh

[eternal basalt]

70k for books

[mild sail]

I take it back, mistakes ,already happened

[tame jungle]

gph rule 1: the damage has always already been done

[weary wyvern]

I'd say bring both if you have the oil for it. I have 9.2k oil and an extra 16.5k in reserves, plus I'm constantly doing commissions that reward oil, so I know I would.

[mild sail]

I guess any damage can be recoverable but not reversible

[wind hazel]

nvm brainfart

[muted ember]

already have 3 Champy

[mild sail]

So champy gun or soyuz gun

[undone plover]

so bf109 then tenrai imo
u could make bf109 in gearlab
costs this much
i prefer to keep T2 ordnance for later

[muted ember]

oh boy OpSi.....I need to do more of it

[weary wyvern]

I will also never get rid of special ships, like the muses and kids.

[undone plover]

u have 40 dock space
why u want to retire them

or wait what was your question I might be mixing up ppl

[mild sail]

If you must retiring ships, muse and kid ships is like the first thing to go, they give no fleet tech

The damage already been done

[undone plover]

go to this site
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?rarity=4%2C3%2C2&type=5%2C7&stats=avi%2Cfp%2Crld%2Chit
dont retire these before u get them to level 120
then this
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?rarity=4%2C3%2C2&type=2%2C3&stats=eva
and this
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?rarity=4%2C3%2C2&type=3%2C2%2C1&stats=fp

[weary wyvern]

I just want to know which of these ships are okay to retire. I may have 36 dock space now, but it fills up quickly, especially during events. It's also just really annoying having to constantly clear it up manually every 5-10 minutes while sortieing.

Thank you!

[undone plover]

also I would try and get stuff to MLB level 70 before u retire for the tech points

[mild sail]

You buy 800 or 700 dock space

[undone plover]

there is also 100 gem compensation with tomorrow's maintenance
take that into account
might help u get another 10 slots

[tame jungle]

lowkey agree but it will also require you to spend money and i understand if someone doesn't want to do that

[weary wyvern]

I have 159 gems, so the gem compensation tomorrow will help a lot.

[mild sail]

+10 dock space

[undone plover]

i should add there are some elite ships u dont want to retire
like unicorn, helena, aurora, juneau (for pvp and cheap AA)

[weary wyvern]

I'd buy gems myself, but I don't have any money atm. Even if I did, Google Play hasn't let me make any purchases for the past several years with no explanation 😭

Oh, yeah, I never retire retrofits, and I've seen all the praise Aurora gets. My Unicorn and Helena are maxed out already, and Aurora is lv 110.

[undone plover]

u can also cross-reference this before u retire a ship
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658
search the name and see if they show up as A or S for any of the columns

[soft osprey]

which part of OPSI should i focus on to get more of this?

[undone plover]

honestly there is not much u can do to focus a resource in opsi
buy it from the port shop (but u should buy everything anyway)
and you should clear all the content every month

[forest palm]

all you can do is hit high density nods, so like Abyssal, and Strongholds

[sharp echo]

the way that Azurlane player have to buy dock space with gems, pretty sure it make alot of newbie actully quiting the game
theres no other way other than gem and guild research right?

[soft osprey]

i only have one 125 vanguard....

[forest palm]

literally all you need

[soft osprey]

nope

[forest palm]

Ops does not need Lv 125

[soft osprey]

it's uhh, bit of a meme fleet

eugen nimi mainz

[wind hazel]

doesnt sound that bad