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I mean you gotta if you want to get her
and 5 cubes is just under 2 days worth of dailies so it's moderately negligible
afaik musashi + shinano + amagi works for w14/w15 bosses? not sure about w15
For wyverns, do yall craft or core shop the blackburn firebrand?
i still don't get how you got convinced into not converting catchup to protocore
that sounds like wack shit when 1) There are may ways to beat W14/15 and 2) Musashi has a tendency to get hard focused and die without targetted heals to heal her
i have never not used a firebrand but you're also not me
I went for core shop personally both times, but it does depend a bit on if you have other priorities for the core data.
its... core shoppable?
I... wasted those electronics... for something you can buy in the core shop?
fair enough. I'm only on 14-3

One of the planes that builds into the Wyvern, yes. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a waste tho.
if you had 10,000 core at the time i would say yes you wasted it
Are any of the stages worth farming for gear?
well if you do D3 you get a rainbow sap gun so maybe yes 
I'll take it there's nothing worth it on D1 and D2 then. 
it's been years since there was I think 
I spent the last 3 days farming C3 with a 60 oil/sortie 90% win rate fleet 
Meta ship drop b3/d3 so it's saves 8k coins at least
the most recent tempesta event had the old demi canon on D2. was prob worth farming 1
Never know when a ship like Lala might need the reload time of a +8 SAP gun
Hvar rerun didn't count?
HVAR was D3, doesn’t count.
You know you can add 1 more dd 0lb. That's increasing oil but at same moment increased win chance and decrease farm time. Just saying
Hey I am a returning player and wondered are there any resources to use to build teams and gear people?
#bot-spam /equip
How much of a change does 1 pt of RLD actually make?
Depends. It could make or break the timing for an additional round of airstrikes/salvos. Usually that won't be the cast but it all adds up.
-30% to 30% give or take some percents
it's like ~1% faster per reload or something
Is nahkimov a better damage dealer then Amagi? Or is my gear just trash I got a faster time with nahkimov
Another thing is, I don’t know if sirus’s buff stacks with kazugumos
why is that your conclusion???
That... sounds pretty huge.
what context is this in?
And yes Sirius's buff stacks with Kazagumo
well it's difficult to say without actually knowing what gear you used
It’s on ez mode 
maybe the conclusion should have been nagato and shinano suck???
but for the record, trying to compare results across 2 different set ups isn't exactly the most useful
There you go
What is this Shinano slander 
why would you use a flapjack and a Helldiver on Amagi for one

What fight were you even doing?
Nakh can slow and freeze with Soyuz
Amagi fleet has no slow
she buffs her TB damage by 15%, and you're fighting a pair of heavy armor bosses
I don’t know how gear works that well and I was following the tier list
pisces easy...
the nakh isnt mlb
oh nvm
for heavy heavy armor you're looking a dive bomber in her first slot and 2 TBs in her 2nd and 3rd slot at least
I’m level 113 and I still don’t know how the armor types work at all, I’m not sure how to tell what armor the enemy got
I'm also pretty certain that main fleet isn't synced at all
Wiki mostly
just trust them that it's heavy
What main fleet would you use instead?
inb4 amagii iiLB also
What that mean
I wouldn't necessarily change the fleet, but I would tweak the gears they're using probably
Can u try in cm hard
don't use non mlb ships is what it means
it is
you're missing among other things, the ability to equip Fighters and TBs in her 2nd slot, some efficiencies on her slot, and probably less relevant for you, access to fleet tech
question,why doesn't it list the twin 410 as a recommended gun to use on FdG in Slaimuda's tier list?
why would they
because in practically no situation would I ever use that gun on FDG
it's a mediocre gun that's only recommended on musashi because of her specific restrictions
I feel like I just need better gear my gear game is mid
I just thought that the Twin 410 is a universally good BB gun
it's not
Good for what
IJN gun only good on Musashi
better gear would help but your real issue right now is not understanding how to make the best of the gear you do have
because it's not? but you can use it 
weird because i used twin 410 on fdg for opsi alot
It's good for barrage spamming, when the barrage is good and the shelling is not.
FdG has good shelling and decent barrage, so there's better options.
I probably will,cause I much alternative
If you mean this gun
it's mainly cuz FdG is not a BB that wants to fire faster to proc her barrage more often, her strength is in raw shelling so a faster gun like the IJN Twin 410 isnt really that useful for her
ahhhhh,ok got it thanks
even completley barrage-focused bbs have better options
then I just use the triple 406?
Is there an in depth guide I could look at involving gear?
although it is better on them
/equip
Equipment Guides and Tier Lists
🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287
use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs
if its one of the good triple 406s sure
well for me rn,I don't
Sam's guide will help but it won't get you all the nuances of gearing ships
The Twin 406mm (German) have good shelling or is just for barrage spam?
this one,more specifically the purple one
and to be honest such a guide doesn't really exist
a lot of it is just learning/reverse engineering from set ups and a lot of memorization
i find ectl to be a good enough guide for vg ships
I’ll keep that in mind, thank you
for backline and specifically CVs its more complicated
that's a barely better and slightly more expensive IJN Twin 410 
like, there's a reason why I created this
i believe alpha or someone else purple made a cool excel guide on gear
Sam's purple, and his guide was made in excel, so might've been his?
Sam making Excel Guides? 
I dont think that's him
it looks different from sam's one hold on
also I'm just using twin 410 on Hood cause I don't have a Proto 406
alpha isnt awake
when i find it ill send it here or something
twin 410 is fine on hood yeah
Izumo is my boss flag while Hood is my mob flag(well usually unless I go triple CVs)
still confused on where I would put FdG in my fleet
This monster https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/edit#gid=1859764162 that's still linked in the subreddit's help thread. I thought it was where he formatted his guides, but I may have been wrong. 
mob flag
do I put her in boss or mo- oh ok
that was started by Nerezza ages ago and Sam kept it updated after the former retired
it sounds like she's your best bb so just put her wherever you need the help, whether than be boss or mob
First off, is your FdG at least D30
fdg is slightly oriented towards mobs but still reasonably outperforms all gold bbs in boss
uhhhh,my FdG hasn't even completed building
I'm simply just prefarming her
oh yeah she's worthless pre dev 30
I also got like 240+ FdG Blueprints
you need 513 for Dev 30
have you been focusing pr2?
eh,just a few weeks of coining would work
if so stop
you shouldnt have been doing PR2 in the first place
well I've already maxed out FdG focus so no longer
less less.

im so lost
focus means research focus in this case
I maxxed out the amount of FdG blueprints I can get from research focus months ag-
that's catchup not focus
that's catchup not research focus
you mean catchup and it's too late to stop that
but in any case you do not want to acquire any fdg prints.
ok forgive me I started playing this game 7 months ago,I have no idea what I'm doing
Just don't focus old seasons for research
uhhh,lemme check what I got my focus on
catchup is kinda fine but you want to be able to save them for protocore
my current supply of protocores are from newcomer missions
also question,does the Tenrai blueprints in proto shop reset monthly?
no
ok so it's only 50 per account,got it
I'm guessing I can get more Tenrai blueprints some other way
you can craft it in the gear lab
oh dear more OpSi rng
please tell me the rates of getting crafting materials gets higher the more you play
if you're clearing everything each month you should be doing fine in terms of mats
of course the first few months will be a bottlekneck but that's to be expected
my focus rn is on season 4
also,even tho it says required BP is 0,will I still get Anchorage BPs?
mm...PR4 is coin-able in its entirety, and all the gear is in Lab, so you could just switch for 5, or 7 focus(preferably 7) 
if you do a research project than gives anchorage
what's in 7?
i dont thing the lab season is that important. get the girls you want to use and thats fine
the newest girls

I know you can convert completed Shipyard BPs into protocore,so should I complete my catchup on Achorage?
what if you want all of them except roon and marco
this is not what this channel is for tho, this channel we are rational
the duality of me a collector and starving in dock space
yes you should catchup anchorage and convert to protocore
eh,not too bad
shouldnt it be rational to play a game emotional? if he wants to unlock all its completle possible that the now newer girls are also coinable at the time he unlocked every other one
yep good haul
it's a game and it's your account at the end of the day
but it someone is specifically asking for advice it's usually because they want to know what they're doing and getting the best bang for yiour dock so to speak
oh I have exactly 240 FdG bps
not to mention it really doesn't take that long to unlock all the PR ships
@ivory pawn
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uIjEGxEXFybg1uYshfkLoQdXPld7bMOCoNPJkP1KNos/edit?usp=drivesdk
at the very least 7 days per if you do the last mission in a single day
Is cheshire useful as a solo tank in opsi?
also,since I already have 3 champy guns do I need to invest in anymore proto weapon blueprints or just go for Tenrai
is 3 champy better than 2 champy 1 flan
also,is it more better to go for the longer research?
How many BF-109Gs do you have?
I believe the shortest researches are the best
I have no idea what a flan is
Blue G and D is what I usually go for
it's better to pick the right project
just timing sidegrade
I'm pretty sure champy is the stronger gun, you only use flan if you need the timing
none
ngl,am just doing the shortest researches to complete my "conduct x amount of researches" newcomer mission
champy is 150x3 damage and flan is 148x3
it will have no difference in damage in practice
I think it’s best to choose the short blues and then if the char you’re building happens to pop up, select that as your priority. You can’t really force anything to go faster. If you try to sprint the game you make poor decisions. It’s more of a marathon that never ends. I think the newcomer missions are kinda whatever. As long as you finish them whenever
I'd probably start going for those next, and use leftover protocores for tenrai. Tenrai can also be crafted in gear lab, now, so less important for protocores. That said, you can only buy one, so IDK

19x19 spread
am very very early into OpSi so I barely have any mats
p sure it 'needs' a bit of spread red. from usb stick or smth
I just use Champy on heavy bosses and the new BB gun for Medium
whats the highest damage dealing torps in game for manual
Shima torps I think

shima jintM noshM 
I would have thought a 20k ex score player would already know that
you dont need in game knowledge to hack
(i didnt hack)
time to see how those jintM user gonna do in this EX
sorry if this is a fumb question but how you access the ex missions of the current event
Suchi, are u able to trigger rafa max enhance barrage consistently in your testing?
finish sp?
shima torps always claiming lives unless they have 20km range
i beat part 1 and 2 but connact access sp
/hardmode
you need to clear D3
i thought teatorps were better on manual
nope
Less damage easier to use
What’s raffaelo for, and how good is she? Probably my best use for UR bulin atm, choosing between her, Yorktown 2, and shimakaze
TEX mob tag prelimed
Musashi 2.0? Just use for mobbing fleet?
i wouldnt say 2.0
Just another choice ig?
Which torp is shima torp?
blue = UR
wait is the sheet up 
I'm about to get the two proto bulins, so who should I give it to?
I'm thinking of MLB Shimakaze or giving it to Raffaelo
There's also Fritz but I think she's got enough for now
i thnk rafaello is better
Hmm aight
maybe mlb fritz first tho
fritz is so close 
do fritz
What’s fritz do, I have her kinda there just existing but not sure what she’s good at
It improves her fighters right? I need someone to do Ch13 farming
its my guide 
what happened to the og guide
it adds 2 fighters
not even for pvp
Eyy nice
AA and light/med bossing
Are all META ships meh? Who are the best meta ships to get from META battles?
no
What? Is musashi only used as a mob cleaner?
No I think she's good for boss too
free ship is good ship 
She's like one of the best BB
But which one of them is better? And i know all of them have their role, but who among them fulfills its role the best
Jintsuu META fulfills her role best
how many EX bosses have been light/med
That’s all I use her for lol
Are there any rules when making a team like only one BB or use a all one faction in a fleet etc?
deal with the threats
and no, using a bad ship just because it's the same faction is not a rule
but that doesn't mean the very best ships don't have something factiony about them. like shinano and yorktown ii
hi what other gears are important for EX for frontline
Important
TRP aux
🚮
Rudders provide a massive 3% eHP in REAL EX
Wait nvm this is EX right?
maybe important isnt the right word, prob should change to just gears
speed is good but like QoL
here, you get just gear, thats not even centered 
is this normal EX guide or like leaderboard EX guide
stuff for hard ex, not neccessarily getting top score
I cant rly think of other stuff, cuz nobody uses AA guns, actual guns (thats not for procing skills)
and if it was for normal ex gaming thats not getting decent score, id just tell you to put full fleet with full gear, which doesnt requiere a guide for
sharing how fleet power works would be helpful for score EX
10*[5000/(48+time)^(0.36) - (fleet power)^(0.6)] might be a good start yea
Wdym no
Should I have explained how scoring works first?
It's 50 plus time

48 makes no sense, why would you start counting at 5:01 or 5:02 for a 5 minute battle ?
Also, game code says 50
Where can i find the shima torp ? Her event was archieved long ago .
Nowhere
they decided to not add it ||yet||
it will most likely be added to gearlab sometime in the future
event shop gear does not get archived at the same time as the event it came from
Do they have a fixed schedule when it come to adding new gear to lab ?
june and december or something close to that
what is the best stage for exp
event d3
if you don't want to do event then 12+
that sounds wrong
Nah that sounds about right
c1
Why
Does anyone have the best fleet comp for Chapter 15...
This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15
Thx 
why am i getting abnormally low amounts of Cognitive rank research projects??? does it have something to do with the fact that im researching for series 5 right now and I have plymouth maxed, other gold ships are on fate simulation and brest is at dev level 24
I believe the type of research (i.e. D, Q, H, G, etc) is determined regardless of maxed ships
The only thing that changed is that rolled D researches can't roll into maxed ships for a season until you have every season maxed.
what does season refer to?
the Roman numeral
so basically cuz i have plymouth maxed and the other gold ones on fate sim i cant roll into them or smth?
sorry if this is frustrating to you im pretty stupid on this games mechanics
If you have any ships unmaxed within a season and plymouth maxed, the D face researches will not give you plymouth ever again, but you should be getting the same number of D-researches
or rather the d-face-researches will not give you plymouth until the rest of the season is maxed
can you only auto repeat sortie 3 times at once???
i could have sworn it was more before, or maybe in events? idk
you can do 4 in war archives 
is it better to farm mainly d3 for event points instead of the triple incentives ? since it's oil capped i guess.
damn i was hoping for at least like 10 or something.... thats dumb
Is the UR BB SAP gun good
The best by far against medium
shoot am I gonna be seeing a lot of that in W14 and W15
it's very specialized in medium so it's not that great for campaign
so it’s not my problem
i mean no,,, pushing campaign (past w12) doesn't matter nearly as much as doing opsi and stuff
Will I need it for OpSi
i mean not really, since people did it without it
Useful?
it's quite useful for anti medium bossing
I guess I’ll get it then
is it good? yes
do you need it? no
is it rainbow and is best in slot for amagi-chan against medium? yes
just always get limited gear tbh
should you get it? yes
it's free so why not?
if you buy a dorm theme does it fully expand the dorm as well or only based on the current size of it?
Guys
whats a good alternative if i dont got a gold washing machine
Just based off the current size. You should expand the dorm fully first.
Blue rudder, blue naval camo.
like he said poverty option
is this even better than advanced boiler??
Need advice for a mobbing/bossing fleet for event
Boiler gives HP and Speed, while you're using Washing Machine or it's poverty replacements for the EVA.
appreciate the response

New player currently in world10-1 need help to build an actual mobbing and boss fleet to get and farm in world 12-4, what ships should I priority build and gives skill lvls?
drop rodney, use saratoga
oof, no luck on new UR? or no luck for exchanging hood? i guess you can raise that venetto + enty + saratoga/independance (in core shop, strong when retro) for boss fleet and nelson unicorn + whatever for mob. main fleet.
Yeah my luck is somehow shit in this gacha 70 rolls in and still nothing and I also ran out of coins so I want to get in to the big farming spot asap, I thought Saratoga is for mob fleets?
Is the new gun a great one?
aagainst medium armor yes
Ty2
what's the best 2nd gun for raff? nepgun or 137 mk1?
best is plymouth gun > twin137/155 kai
what about main gun? is the new ur bb better than 406 mk7?
Only against Medium armor
best gun against medium, weaker than other options in light and heavy
will i be getting D-researches for the ships that have fate simulation leveling availble, as well as my brest who is DL level 24?
whats DL level
yeah, you get face researches if there are fate sims available in addition to dev 24 brest
development level level?
just realized level is used twice after you used long form lol
but for some reason ive been gettintg very little D researches like abnormally low, am i just unlucky 💀
I wish I could get fewer D researches
is tallinn a better tank than retrofit portland?
So is Jintsuu meta not available right now? not even with Dossier?
🤏 better
im thinking about switching in belorussiya instead of veneto in main fleet (it has enterprise, veneto and unicorn rn, and for vanguard kiev, helena and tallin (currently is laffey helena and portland)
Are you trying to make a northern parliament fleet or something?
i mean wouldnt some fleet buff be better than none
Switching in low level ships delays your progress. And belo isn't even better than vv
There are no faction fleet buffs there afaik, nvm but marginal buff to kiev is prob not worth
faction buffs aren't worth building around
Unless you're Kearsarge, York, and enty
It only work if there's already good ship that happen to fulfill that requirements
which CB is the best and which is the worst? at tanking and damage
agir tank, kronk damage iirc
No option to do hard? C and D
/hardmode
Ahh right. Thanks
when equipping a bb gun/vanguard gun/planes/torp/aa to a shipgirl, is the fire rate already applied that shipgirl's rld (from gear,base,tech, skill that states to increase rld)?
But base RLD is applied, yes
shimanto fate sim?
What about it?
hmm alright
Are you asking if her fate sim applies to her gear? Because that should be easy to check; just equip something in that slot and look at eff. If it's 125 for the first slot, it doesn't. That said, I'm pretty sure it does
are nep guns better than 155 kais in terms of bb aux on W14-15?
I don't think so, but I'm not sure
Probably not
no
I'm pretty sure the boats are still light armor
not better than 155kai on w14
definitely not for 155kai on w14
no, yes but regular 155 is better than Neptune gun in W15 anyway
I've heard before that 155 is better than kai on w15, but why is that?
looks like slighty worse than 155kai in w15 aswell
is the new BB gun a shelling or barrage gun?
shelling. It's an upgraded Marco Polo gun
its a 20s gun
its a 20s big dmg gun
we really need to to stop calling them barrage and shelling guns
i still dont know what it means
it was meant to signify their use
never been exposed to gear guides 
barrage gun to activate barrage more often, etc
I've been too exposed too gear guides
but really that doesn't make sense in a modern context
barrage is a fast-firing gun for ships that rely more on their barrage than shelling damage
would said gun work on Izumo?
so we're talking abt fast firing guns and not mentioning my fav Triple 283mm (SK C/34)
I don't think even Musashi has more than half of her damage come from her barrage
it's really just about timing
depends on her gun ig
context?
because gear is more content rather than ship dependent
I've been using the new BB gun(I still have yet to memorize the name) on Izumo when grinding 12-4 cause
- Izumo is on boss fleet
- the boss on 12-4 is medium armor
well it won't really matter butt yes the Italian 406 is about the best you could do
good,cause I usually just switch her gun to champy when fighting heavy bosses
kear only light armor or it depends on the gearing assuming I'm running the York Implac comp?
light is their strongest but u can do all armor assuming gearing yes
so... kear needs the UR plane on PR7 and 457mm to be used in Heavy Armor?
even with la-9 the perf on heavy wont be spectacular if ur threshold is other URs and they compete against the IJNs for example
does that mean that Amagi CV/Haku, Nano, Implac still best in heavy?
yes
always have been
It's gonna take quite a bit for that combo to lose out to anyone I would think
could I D30 a dr7 in just 4-5 months? (from dev0)
I wonder if there's ever a time that Chikuma is your tank for that combo
yea
if you didn't I would rather suspect you've done something wrong
4 months was about enough time for me to dev30 everyone in PR7
I've seen team that uses Amagi CV,Nano,and Haku
is this just a pure brute strength lineup?
im at my 7th month without both dr7 d30 
is it okay to leave PR5 without developing Rupprecht?
well she's coinable
It's a lineup you can use if you take Eldridge for her slow, and the boss doesn't move a huge amount
I mean, I don't have her right now, I'm just waiting for my Brest to get to D30 before leaving
also, is one Ply gun enough or no?
well you don't have to finish every ship in a season before leaving
speaking of which,man I need to retro my Eldridge
1 is good, more is better
actually,is Warsprite worth to retro?
no
absolutely not
and surely you were online during the eldridge retro event
I was,I have the retro item
ok good, i believe its still limited
I just need to actually retro her
any other SR retros that I should consider beside Eldridge?(I already have Sandy)
not particularly
Should I get eldridge or Albacore to complete my fishpack (don't have eld retro item)
Yuudachi isn't that noteworthy these days
eldridge isnt a sub
eldridge doesnt do anything without retro
ik
well there's no point to Eldridge without her retro
so, albacore it is?
yes
albacore isn't a dd
Albacore sure if you want to
have you both forgotten they're both in the merit shop
Albacore better than Cavalla in Fishpack comps ig
this good?
no
useless
if I already got KMZ fleet tech farmed... what else is war archive for? any specific stage?
no
collection/completion
yes...
d3 always drops the shop ship
Wtf I never knew this
the shop ship always drops from B3 and D3
been like that since the release of the game
have you never bothered to check the map drops on the wiki
which you should read, lot's of useful information on there
Never checked 😭 you can almost get through most of the game as a casual without reading the wiki
My bad, but that's actually nice to know loll

Based off new UR's skills would she qualify as a mobber?
she's one of the best mobbing BBs in the game yes
Could I potentially replace unicorn? and her hot garbage air strike
no
F
not that I would ever want to replace Unicorn
Her air strike isn’t hot garbage considering she heals with it
her hot garbage airstrike
Skill issue, consider MLB with Bulins + Gear diff +OathLove affinity + Maxed skills
And she doesn’t get a 90% brick either

Guys whats better
If im fighting a single boss and im using Hakuryuu and shinano, which is better?
2 dive bomber
1 torpedo
Or
2 torpedo
1 dive bomber
(my torp tends to miss a lot when i use 2 torpedo 1 dive bomber loadout)
use slow support
well it would be to get a slow or ideally a root and use option 2
also really not sure what your point is with that
but your gear could absolutely be better
Finished B3 on the event but sp doesn’t unlock what do
I'm sure they could be, but it's unicorn. If I'm not using her for heals what am I using her for?
you need to beat D3
her preload, some AA and some chip damage
There’s no button to swap to hard mode
/hardmode
When you click on B3 it should be at the bottom-mid of screen. Normal will be highlighted in blue, hard is right next to it
They pulled a sneaky on me
not sneaky, they had a whole tips and intro about it that you can't skip
this is the 2nd or 3rd even it's been like this
Is doria meta good? I farmed everything except her 4 dupes now, if she’s trash then I’m mining 12-4
she's +1 BB FP at 120
I can't get into hard mode in event ,how do I increase my trp I'm on 299 I need 400
Use more ships with torp stat, use ships with higher Torp stat, equip auxes that boost torp stat, etc
yo wdym a root?
stop support
e.g. august and implacable
only slow support i can think of is ark royal
and i dont have implacable 💔
august from pr4 has a 100% proc stop at fs5
her timing is tighter than implacable though
i dont got implacable gng 💔
Avp does the same thing
.
I spammed the screen so hard it might as well have skipped it
Implacable also reruns in a few weeks
Yea im still getting her blueprint
but rn im focusing on hakuryuu
shes dev25
source??
The last stream
They announced it then and explicitly said it would be in March
When exactly we don't know but there's only so many times it can take place with that caveat
alr thanks man
Cuz im a returning player from 2022/2023
I miss out heck ton of UR 💔
Just play consistently and you'll get them all
What armor is Raffaello good against
Compared to?
Idk top ships like Soyuz and Alsace
Because if you have other options I would not use her for single target bossing
Mmm
Frankly I don't see myself using Raffaello over any existing ships as things stand
Is she campaign oriented
Yes
Will w16 stand the test of time?
bet they gonna release W16 and then 2 UR to counter W16 right after
surely by then musashi isnt actually the most valuable UR anyway for that content
do raffaellos faction wide dmg buffs also apply to her
id assume so
Guys I’m running out of dock storage what should I do
level your normal, rare and elite ships to 120 for their tech then retire them
That's a bad advice
Yea it is optimal but not the best solution immediately
The solution would be fork up those gems you saved
ig yes, the best solution to low dock space is to swipe your card
Can Sandy equip a fast firing DD gun yet or the bug still there
don't think there's been any changes, rainbow 100mm still seems to be fine to me
as for 76 or gold 113, not sure
Im gonna sound like a complete idiot but what even is Light/Medium and Heavy armor content 😅 Ik that there are types of armor and some ships/gear specialize in those armor types but idek where to look for them in the first place
is laffey worth retrofitting?
in most cases: DD/CL/CVL = light armor
CV/BC/CA/CB = medium
BB/some CVs = heavy
so whatever enemies with those hull types you see, you can guess their armor in most cases
some maps have an abundance of enemies of certain types, for example world 12 is full of medium and light enemies
every ship you're using is worth retrofitting
just prioritize backliners first, especially Unicorn
im finished with unicorn and portland
that's good
im just unsure if ill be using laffey in the long-run
Every enemy has one type of armour, humanoid enemies basically always have the same armour type as their playable counterpart, in OpSi bosses you can check the armour in the window before the fight. For campaign it's mostly experience, also you don't always gear against the most prevalent, but the armour type the most dangerous enemies have there at times
Also this is a common question lol
You're probably not
so i dont have to retrofit her right? what about helena?
should i mlb raffaello or shinano?
shinano was originally my next priority but i didnt have raffaello when i decided that
Helena is rather low priority in retrofit, the main benefit is that she gains access to different timing
Who else do you have?
i would do fritz
I think I'd first do Yk2 or Fritz
any reason why them two over shinano?
if it helps, im about to jump into chapter 15, and i'm doing opsi too
shinano is a small upgrade over haku on heavy while fritz would broaden ur cv option on the other armor types where shes a bigger upgrade than nano
also fritz good in campaign esp w15
nano can also be mlbed with dupes from perma pity
Cuz they already have an LB and Shinano doesn't change much for you + she's perma. For ch 15 I think Fritz is the best option you don't have MLB anyway
ohh icic, okie dokie, yeah i'll do fritz then
Well maybe Raffaello too, don't really know about her capabilities yet
Yea Nano is good but coz she's perma u can get her lb over time whereas Fritz u can only lb through Purins which are limited
yeahh i forgot about that completely lmao
i'm pretty close to getting the 400 for the ur exchange so i'll get my first shinano dupe pretty shortly
how good is the new META unit?
Looks like a MehTA unit
Raffaello are very good for flagship in Mob battle ,15 stage and siren
she better than fritz and Shinano in 15-4 mob stage due to BB sub gun to defense from kamikaze ship
have high AOE damage and have shield ,,buff and fleet heal which is important for a long fight especially when you try to 3 star the stage
With 2 other healer she was very good
she can do also do a stage boss if need
still do good damage and heal and buff
but Fritz and Shinano generelly better for that job
better than fritz in w15? 
theres already a mlb musashi in that dock
for mob fleet yes
planes:
BB better than CV??
15-4 mob fleet need BB as flagship
AA job can leave to other and 2 main fleet ship which genelly will be cv and cvl with heal
or not if kamikaze ship slip pass your vanguard you can try sink kamikaze ship with CV
you dont use fritz instead of a bb, you use her off flag with a bb
again...theres already a mlb musashi in that dock to flag w15 mob...
they have other bb option though like nj, sushi, alsace, zwei
which are worse indeed except sushi
what's with fritz being put on a pedestal so much lately 

yea
their cv needs lb more than another bb though
can just slot sushi mob like you suggested and slot idk alsace for boss
well she is good for w15 among other things
just not the BiS everywhere that people think she is
i mean fritz takes the bench in w15 mob if theres any form of good 2ndary healers like aql volga or zuihou
but shes still great for bossing and if not then still best as supp cv
either way even for content beyond w15 fritz would be the best option
in 15 stage i alway use BB flagship and 2 other alway been healer you can try that with fritz
fritz in w15 boss is something i haven't tried yet
though i think she might do better than shinano, again havent tried yet dont murder me yet for this
fritz is most certainly an upgrade over shinano on boss
Guys I need your help
restart game or #tech-support
if i put her on boss i wont have any DBs anywhere which i feel like would be a problem but i dunno
fritz can carry dbs on a 4 plane slot if you feel like a lack of db is a problem ( it isnt )
well ... plane with rocket do tear medium boss apart
afaik shes only bis in med (used with nahk + soy iirc), ijn still bis for heavy and eagle still bis for light
bis depends on fight and mechanics
i ended up doing fritz since i think i think the bbs i have should be fine enough, kinda lacking in cv ships mlb-ed like someone else said
nahk fritz can be faster on light without losing much
the follow ups were just a whole lot of nothing burgers so 
Is it possible to one shot Taihou meta using a BB fleet? Trying to figure out how to for funsies
when calculating average AA range then ships' aa gun with 2x mount are weighted 2?
Iirc yes
Same for rld
already forget to comp
they are some other which is much better than this
but possible yes
does ghost aa contribute as well? idr
Unless it's very special, yes
is that brest?
Wait, why Brest and not the other CBs?
ideally u dont run any CBs
Huh, why?
z52/ply/unzen/helena
because their tankiness is not need so ure better off with more dmg/support
well this was lucky first one shot boss before optimize so yes they are much more better fleet
Hmmmm, what gun did you use btw?
So, what does have more damage than a CB? like torp ships? shimakaze and stuff?
shima does more dmg than cbs on heavy yes but not the most ideal
depends on ur dock at the end of the day
if ure running a bb fleet then ure prob better off with guam or aegir if u had to pick between cbs
i did list the top options here
Musashi use this the other use normal 2 colour shell and 457 twin
Is there a CV that holds 8 Fighter Plane mounts that isn't Fritz Rumey?
there're none
no
Wait, Mushashi has a new good gun? Hmm... is it possible to get the gold plates I spent on her old BiS or nah?
no not possible and if u spent on izumo +13 no point +13ing a daisen gun
Izumo gun? Which one is the gun
Oh that
SHould I keep doing this quest for event? I already have Rafaello so im not sure if its worth?
what quest
if u mean building on event banner then no i would stop unless u care about collection/waifu/tech
sorry, I wanted to paste screenshot right after sentence but forgot about slowmode
no its not worth it to use cubes specifically for that daily
its just something u get if ure planning to spend cubes anyway
okay, and what about normal dailies? It's going to refund me all cubes anyway ,right? Well, -1 cube
if ure done with event banner then just go back to light and it will fully refund ur pull
okay thank you
So i have read the wiki of gaum it say it's a large cruiser but what about agir and azuma what are they then?
Really? was rushing Daisen gun to use on Musashi because it seems to better sync than Izumo gun
also large cruisers ( CB )
Thanks
it does provide better sync but izumo gun can do that too at the expense of a white shell with autoloader
overall daisen gun could give u like 8% more gun dmg which would be like 5-6% more dmg overall at the expense of 120 extra gold plates which is not worth it
because its specific to musashi
Autoloader +10 or less?
autoloader + depends on ur sync
So hood is a battle cruiser but in Azur lane do battle cruiser and battle ship are those the same or different
except hard mode requirements they function virtually the same together with BM and BBV(to an extent)
same thing with CVs and CVLs
Functionally identical
Thanks
Is the damage gap between Unzen and Hindenberg big? Just curious
depends on fight/armor/rest of ur fleet
unzen is stronger on heavy in a vacuum
hinden should be slightly higher on med and higher on light
Should be but usually won't be 
sadly i dont have 2 +13 hiden guns to test that
if I remember testing charts the gap isn't all that sizable 
the question is will you ever +13 2 hinden gun
I do actually, 3 in fact 
at this rate probably not
+13 CA guns are such a shit investment
ya...about how I don't care, and about how I have more resources than most
fr, wish we had a ca that was almost omni present in showdowns since release
like drake
Who is more torp focused then gun
the rapper?


unending gold plates supply
some people will say "bad investment", and in the same breath do something like +13 a 460, or UR610
Backline gear is a fuck ton more influential
"460" "influential" ya...no...
it has been used with success in mixed anti heavy comps 
syncs better with carriers cuz of the long rld
What's wrong with the 460? Considering how the best comps in the game now with CV, BBs with it sync fine ?
it's niche it's not influential
You know what's more niche then a 460, using a Hindenburg
should i immediately awaken my ships ?
ok...and? I'm not the one exaggerating a piece of gear
Hindenburg is stuck on opsi mobbing duty since introduction
depends if u use them sure
tech fodder can stay capped till you dont have other prios on the other hand
I have one of my 460s at +13, haven't used it since like a meta or two 
like the UR Mle 1940 is influential, the 460 is a floundering hunk of metal 
Which DD gun should Brest or Azuma use?
Twin 130 should be fine enough do not need to super invest in them
460 is useful for hybrid CV comps 
fairly normal if you've been sitting on it for a while
#al-general is that way unless you have a question
Rafaello skill is so confuse😭
Do she need be flag ship or faction gun?
Neither , she has no gun restrictions
is my Opsi BB fleet good or should I replace Vanguard w NJ?
should be fine as is 
mmm ok
Guys whats the most effecient way to level up UR ships?
use them like any other ship
efficient in what way (oil spent or time spent or maybe something else, idk?)
who generally better tai yuan, an shan, or chang?
I believe tai
any reviews on rafa
as far as i have understood she is on the worse side of UR BBs but still UR
between fritz, yt2, z52 and raffaelo
who should i MLB first?
what other UR backlines do you have again?
wait what?
worse than UvH???
id assume she is more useful than NJ or uvh but idk
depending on your answer, z52's place would be better
from what i know raffa is second only to musashi in terms of mobbing
and bismark
XP books, like all ships. Don't get them affection though.
after Fritz who should i focus on MLBing?
Laff2,Unzen,Mog or Z52
i want to argue z52 over laff2, but my alt leveled laff2 over z52 XD
Laff pro-defensw, z52 pro-offense
i have an excess of purple bulins
lb random ships or retire?
getting more dock space isnt an option 🥲
any good ships i should do first? otherwise i’ll probs go down the list and do whoever’s the highest level, i’ve got 40ish bulins to go through
i reach to late to flex my CA Guns

the one that give you better ship tech/faction tech that you're missing
where can i check this?
main ships give more faction tech
alrighty, tysm guys
use this to filter and sort https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker
ohh nice nice, i will use that, ty
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology or ingame under research - fleet technology
Anyone have any advice for someone who just started azure lane ??
hmmm i forgot where they put the newbie guides and tierlist and websites 😦
i feel like you can find them in bot spam
/guide
Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane
If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:
- Newbie Tips (By riceist)
- Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
- Research Guide (By Sam)
and more!
Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with
1:1 SP comp?
unicorn plymouth always works
thxx for the help
build on the event banner btw
Okay, z52 died on boss today. Guess she isn't as tanky as I thot or just me skill issue
what boss
SP
z52 bulk relies on her heals
today i just got my first ur on my first summon with the event
i just decide to try wasn't expecting anything good while drinking my coffee then got surprised and fell over in my chair 
skill issue lol. what backline were you using?
Unikai
use zuihou instead
i use z52 everywhere
she didn't die a single time
by chance anyone know if chien wu any good ?
meh
I dunno maybe bad rng? Coz she wasn't dying on all the other days
are u using asw on her ?
No
you guys actually mono fleet SP?
dose the battle formation matter in azure lane?
i dont see any reason to 1 fleet sp
yes z52 + zuihou
wtf i gotta try this
oh he was using her on the boss 
Wait zuihou better than Unikai for this?
she heals more for DD lineup
and herself 
is this a good formation or is there anything i can change to make it better ?
yea i kinda guessed lol
at the very least ur starter fleet should have unicorn helena portland and ur starter
yea i started playing maybe 2 to 3 months aago im not sure lol
washington
so basically taihou and washingtom worth keeping
?
taihou yes, wash no
ok thx for the help and advise ima do some research and try to readvise my formation lol
just copy the starter formation and replace enterprise with taihou
i think you should grab that unicorn asap. newbie tips from guides would help a lot.
i have her already
use her. read the guide on full clear hard mode, should be easy to obtain the blueprints to retro. coin, is another story XD
yea i use her on my first fleet
this my first fleet i know its probably a mess but i hope its a little better then my 2nd in formation wise XD
😂
no wonder ur are still at lvl 40 for 2 months 
Put Spite flag at least for better intercept
the entire frontline is pretty awful
i mean yes and no i dont play azure lane alot cause im hard stuck 1000 hours in warframe currently addicted to it 😂

i think at this point, you might as well make a thread and post what you have in your dock
because other than unicorn, rest are kinda... awful
Hell no
only good ship i see there is Unicorn
Give this a read asap
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
wow this frontline needs some work. lacks damage and your CAs can't tank well
ok thx so much XD
thats true i probaly should lol i pretty sure i might have a couple decent ships but just dont know it 😂
i mean there are some decent ships in the common pool, and free to get from guild shop and stuff....
ok i posted my docks
...where?
oh sorry i just noticed i posted it in another thread on accident give me sec XD
Gacha UR always pog and worth going for
How specifically pog? Still pending proper testing
very nice, FP + 2
TEX mob tag some would say 
my docks
ok i just made the thread
Something niche, but Is there currently a map good for affinity farming?
they'd all be the same outside of oil cost and rewards so just grind your usual areas
you cant really speed up affinity grind outside of raid events where the fights are like 2 mins tops
So I'm guessing I can just do it along 12-4 innately; tho again it'll be something in the background so it's gonna take a while to grind affinity
right now do the event map instead of W12
but yes that would be correct
does 15-4 auto work 
for what
15-4 autoable
nvm it doesnt 
is it already on safe threat lvl?
no i just got 100%
sounds about right
Hello, I need help regarding making guild. Just to make sure, me and my community is planning to make AL guild.. But we dont know which server to start with, do anyone here know which server have the highest players rate?
we don't know
Ah okay thank you
but what i can tell you that the server with higher players rate are very unlikely to join a newly built guild, because there's so many other options out there at higher level
So better just start in Litte Enterprise?
the "newest" server is LE
just start wherever, i don't think it will make that much of a difference
Ok thank you
I recently got this item, is this good?
how strong is anchorage?
one of the best tank in the game
She isn't known for her strength, but more of a Tank, not the best but is still at the top thanks to her Timable Smokescreen via Torpedo usage and Above Average Durability
agir is tankier, but these two are different use in my opinion. in current content, not too many things requires the tank level of agir
agir is tankier in certain content, anchorage is tankier in others
this is due to their armour types being different
in practice, they're about the same all things considered
hmmm, I have 360 prints for anchorage
Both are more then bulky enough for all content
Also u want to use Ancho when u want to improve your other frontline survivability coz of her smoke utility
Basically saying Anchor is tankier against enemies who use Airstrikes and Torps better than Aegir, while the rest of the good Things go to Aegir
Anchor also has her invulnerability which can make a difference
I almost get dev30 aegir, she's at lv28 rn, 1 more week and I'm good
How do we feel about the new UR gear in the UR event?
best gun vs medium
So it’ll have more usability than the triple 460mm? Cause I don’t think I’ve ever used that gun
yes, more chance to use it for sure
Cool time to farm it
Oh I read triple 406 and was very confused why you never used it. It is a relatively simple replace for any of the standard triple guns vs med due to similar reload times
It’s just similar tho no? I remember hearing about weird loading times when the 406 first came out
Like the loading times were just a bit long
What armor is sp?
It's Marco, shes heavy
Does nelson have her own gear?
she has her flag, from her collection band reward
Should be and does be. But that's with defensive auxes, and nobody uses them with defensive auxes. Unzen is better 
Idk if it's my guns but unzen was doing more damage on light 
Unzen got Drake gun and Hinden got Unzen/Drake
is there no d maps for this event?
/hardmode
Just skip to D3, you don't have to do all of them 
do i have to clear it to ge sp?
Hello, is it okay to make a thread here about ingame guide?
I wanna ask few things about fleet formation / who to focus etc
Fleet Formation Guide (Help!) + Who To Invest + What To Prio Pull (Banner)
Wait does it clear the previous maps when you clear D3? Cause I want the event mission rewards and the trophy
Clear A1-3 B1-2 D3
That clears all missions
Oh bet
They really made clearing the event much quicker
Yep
Thank god
I heard raffaello shield has weird quirks?
It uses her hp, dunno if I'd call that a quirk
technically you have to 3 star specifically c3 if u care about stickers
if anything the kit feels a little wonky because of the fact that some parts of her kit is tailored towards having other sardegna ships around when the faction itself isn't all that impressive at all. Maybe she'll be used much more if they happen to release more DR and PR sardegna ships or UR sardegna ships but I don't see the cook here ngl.

sure you have napoli and aquila which are both great but like that's about it ngl
that's all you really need in mob
yea but it ain't no yorktown II, soyuz, kearsage combo
eh...
I need something like that
you really don't...
if you're gonna make a ship with a kit that tailors to other ships or factions they better be damn good is what I'm saying


Raffaello is damn good in mob
but would I really run her over the other UR options that are out there for mob already? not really
What kinda mob combo is that?
I'm not saying it's a mob combo
I'm saying it's a combo in general
anything is a combo
combo for what
I mean soyuz didn't powercreep the top BB boss fleet until nakhimov released
Sure, she's probably not the best bossing ship rn. Only reason I wouldn't use her in mob is that Sushi is probably still better
well yea that's exactly my point. Raffaello just doesn't have that rn imo
feel like raffaello is kind of missing something just like soyuz was
Soyuz Biscuit Alsace was top meta 
Don't know why you are making that many assumptions when no one has a max skilled raffy though
you are talking about the top end, and not everyone has access to all these ships though, Raph is for what it's worth fine, every UR falls off when a new shiny one comes along
do you really need a max skilled raffy to see that she's kind of missing something as she doubles the damage dealt to enemies if their ally is from the sardegna faction?

Where do you get double the damage?
Raff might not be the best but people might not have the best
some parts of her kit goes from 6% to 12% if the ally is from sardegna
All UR have fluff skill, are you saying Bismarck Zwei has to be used with ironblood ships cause she buffs them?
Need to use Indiapolis with Portland
The best Bismarck Zwei fleet has 1 to no ironblood ships despite her having a entire skill dedicated to buffing them
And raffey buff is even more marginal 
is a damage infliction increase not different from AVI or FP stat increases?
It is but what's your point??
how big is the difference? if you look at statistic numbers in %
is that not better?
the damage infliction
losing out on half of that if you are not from sardegna empire
Literally doesn't matter
calling it "half" is where it becomes misleading
the point is that you don't have to utilize every detail about a skill every time for a ship to perform at their best
which applies no matter what kind of buff it is
also, isnt a 6% dmg buff roughly equivalent to like, the std 15% FP buff for a BB?
I mean if you want her to compete with other ships like musashi she would have to no? cause as of right now I don't see myself using her over musashi
That's up to test? Cause raffy provides things Musashi doesn't
are we at the point where every new ur has to powercreep the last
idk I kinda thought maybe she needs something like soyuz has with her fleet combination
Any suggestions on fleet formation?
replace indianapolis with helena, and swap her to the middle slot
more ships mean more option which can lead to a stronger fleet, but i wouldnt say yes to your statement
Basically all UR ships have their fluff skill . Amagi has her stupid Akaga thing , shinano has the shit crossfleet, Yorktown Essex buff isn't used by late game players.
Saying a ship needs to use a faction ship just cause of a additional +6% is laughable
im pretty sure it was a rhetorical question
raff is fine
Should I be opening gear chests as soon as I get them?
craft them up to purple then open
only when you need them for something ngl. but for you rn I would
Makes sens, I'm still using a lot of common gear.
opening all gear chests could lead to full inventory
raff looks like the new 15-1 farm bb, sub away musashi, so that some lv110 purple chinese dds can survive
So you wait for people to test whether raff skill set will help a fleet before you make quick assumptions.
Eldridge literally got laughed at in her datamine , look what happens now
how’s raff gun vs mk6 vs light
Okay, so balance out inventory space with gear needs?
she's "alright". All I mentioned is she's in a weird position is all. And no I don't think every UR has to powercreep the last.
Inventory space is almost never an issue cause you can just store unused gear on ships
since used gears isnt using any space and you can look up which gear chests can drop what gear its best just to open it when you need something from the possible drops
She is in no weird position, only reason you think so is cause you insist on using a fluff mechanic
isn't raff self dps is like fdg or something?
and also unless she lacks any form of support
she definitely is more than fine even by UR BB standards
just cos she's not the top UR BB doesnt mean she's bad
well it's cause I don't see myself using her at all unless she starts outperforming musashi which I doubt. The only reason I would ever use her is if she allows for a certain combo like soyuz did to work. As of right now there is no such combo. She's not the best but that does not mean I think she should powercreep the whole game just because she's a new UR. It's just my honest thoughts
for a player without bis2, soyuz, alsace, sushi
she is still really really good
also again
can i emphasise how soyuz needed no such combo to work
whats cooking gph
You keep saying she won't out perform Musashi? When she is nowhere near maxed ?
Why are people so stubborn that you won't see how a ship performs until you actually run them
Literally happens to every single fking UR ship that doesn't have overpowered damage
Can I ask what’s Soyuz combo
when she was released, she was used with Bis 2 and Vanguard
On medium armor Soyuz Nahkimov Fritz performs extraordinarily well
now with Nakhimov, she's used to buff nakhimov
someone who doesn't know how roles work in the game 
Although for light Soyuz nahk feels like a cope mechanism compared to Yorktown Keary
roles? ships and submarine do i need more roles? (this is a joke)
isn't soyuz one of the best anti med armor? with raf gun, its like fritz
with 2la-9 against medium, much higher than 2nd place by a margin

do meta ships count towards faction bonuses
Meta is meta faction
towards only the meta faction
Some are
the gold meta ships are usually pretty decent
purple ones are pretty much tech
they are not like the top picks by any means tho
Fact checked and verified by eHP patriots
Meta ships have very good tech though so I suggest you level them still
they don't take up doc space, so do as you will with them 
Yeah but why not give raff gun to Alsace or Bisz instead
oh, they have a better upgrade than given it to soyuz?
should I focus on getting the prototype item in the event???
Limited event gear is always the highest priority , and this one happens to be the best BB gun against medium
What's wrong with NJ
oldge
lack of Iowa ships thats whats wrong
there's really nothing wrong with NJ tbh
NJ the basic bitch BB that's incredibly easy to use
powercrept in the DPS dept really
say nothing of utility
Special armor break and burn 
how is b2 boss so annoying for low oil?
what are you using to fight the boss?



