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where did i read ur bbs nevermind
No way this is real
I assume they just use the damage calc the wiki mentions and do it per shot.
But im not bilingual so i have no clue if im even close to being right
yeaaaaaaaaaah i don't have huge confidence on this number too
no, its like gridman rikka where its same barrage but you add parts depending on the enhancement
raffaello has small amp and much better defence, we'll see once shes out
"early numbers" may as well just be spit balling, if the numbers are truly shit the CN board will riot 
so the base barrage is the first 2 rows, then IF black pigment stacks are enough add that part, and IF white pigment stacks are enough add that part
but both are independent
Mobbing UR 
Replacement for Musashi? Because if not then she may not have a place anywhere
Mid UR as I said 
its down to barrage pattern now imho
if its worse ill prob stick to sushi for campaign
That said, I'm really skeptical as to these initial numbers, so I'll wait for the morning to see what testing says.
Where Unzen
didn't we see Raph's barrage on stream
i misread
~~i didn't watch it ~~
Could have a place if you dont have musashi
lmao shes cooked
I think the fat wad of shells is also part of her barrage btw
but yeah it looks very mob-ish
- Unzen
- Guam/ laffey 2
- Soyuz
- Alsace/ Mogador
- Amgai 2
- Fritz Rumey
It's possible she's really good in mob for world 15
you see a fat wad of shells for like a sec landing on the enemy siren was kind of confused if that was shelling, but it felt like part of a barrage
You'd need either good AA and/or really really really good defensive skills, which seems to be the case but it also seems people aren't sure what they mean exactly
those white ones? on top
yeah they look to be apart of the barrage
So how is it
wait did they really put her under nj
?
Isnt that reikuro ?
so they nerfed her damage because she is a support like 
Not looking good
At first glance, seems gimmicky. At least not obviously overpowered
idk i found it somewhere
I see, thanks
Just like gph on patch days fr fr
most likely they aren't factoring in her weird stacking skills 
a clearer picture, but ya that's her barrage definitely
i counted like 8 bullets
Dropping the sun on a poor siren
yeah it him
maybe cn is just wrong
She's cute, and a UR, so I'm still giving her a ring.
I've no real strong opinion until there's actual hard numbers
I'm sure she has a use somewhere, and I'm hopeful the initial numbers are just incorrect.
i'll never forgive the Japanese
The initial numbers for Z52 were also wildly incorrect so 
does she not have any utility or why the dmg is so big problem
For me She can even heal the enemy and poison my team,She Will be mine and i Will give her that ring
She has no stats but skills seems... interesting?
Potentially huge defensive capacities
Raffaello heals the other fleet, she's going to be useful in op siren
why will u ring a traitor
?
reikurozuchi is a doubtful cn cuz barely a cn would search twitter to watch guide
part of her utility is locked behind allies killing stuff
Is it enough time to ask if the new UR is bad yet?
shes look rough
no ur is bad
roughaello
yeah when they release the lvl 130 content beside the harbiter 
i always missed gph on patch day
always the hottest of takes and roughly 80% of what is said ends up being wrong
She Just Need a good dose of correction
She's got plenty of stats, her damage numbers just aren't great.
The anti-mog 
Something something 'CN number' would rather just that guy's personal view
its part of the fun 
everyone thought hutten is bad because of -50% damage for fast reload but she's a beast in mob cause the shelling damage and barrage damage is different
And also
She's hot
i dont think thats true
Isn't everyone think uvh good
I wonder if the initial numbers took the barrage crit chance and damage into effect.
ulrich is still pretty meh though for a ur
Torva are new ship good
idk i have awful headache so im not looking at anything that needs me to think
nagami is new ship good?
Our goddess
My man
She's hot so good
your words of wisdom are valuable
im one of the people defended her š
Raf have some interesting mechanis, need to see in game
-the Lead Vanguard Ship's Main Guns hit an enemy, 50% chance to inflict the enemy with 1 stack [Black Pigment] (5s cd between activations; cooldown is independent per ship); - for dd guns it's almost up. 15% slow (at 3 stack) and 6% damage for all allies so aircrafts and torps included
Unfortunately not pink hair so worse than Saratoga
she is outdated but UR > SR in 99% of the cases
there are already ssr that are competitive with her wdym
Welp, I'm 
like who
owari, enty, etc
Owari isn't as good as UvH
her gimmick is cool and all but its rarely useful
yeah i was going to say owari too but since i don't have her i don't know how she performs
-When this ship takes 20% of its max HP in DMG, gain 1 stack of [White Pigment]; - with Nelson's Pennant of Victory - pvp ship? - anyway let it be
when maint over i can do some benchmarking against fdg for reference
my uvh lv1 so cant directly test but it shld give a rough idea
why FdG
cuz shes the closest to uvh in dmg
uvh and nj are in the same spot and i think fdg too
nj is better than both
Oh we're still in the UvH discussion nvm
Link ?? š¤²
no link 
unless you get lucky with fdg crits or smth
Is Rafael good?
Don't know even with datamining
Wait for testing
(2 weeks later)
max level them all and i m waiting for ur test results 
rip my arrays for this experiment
Still pulls for her anyway, new UR 
for someone who has owari u shouldn't be suffering in arrays right 
yea im not i was just joking
i got like 3 or 4k so shld be fine
cog is what people suffer from i think
i have like 30k cog, its been 3 years and ive still never gone below 20k idk how people run out
datamine 
raffy gun seems to be direct soyuz gun upgrade
raffy herself seems good, wants to fire first for her stacks, vg tank shld also fire fast(?)
+2 fp 
And wait for whale to test it, before decide to mlb her or benching forever
mini heal for mobbing, probably not relevant
being fast at leveling many ships which is now very easiy to do
its a lot easier to run out of cogs while you still have backline ships to level
"Whale"?
raffy seems to be good at mobbing, but like the other UR BBs she would be good at bossing too
yeah u don't need to wait for the whales
u just need trustworthy testers 
im mlb all urs that i get
having lower acc and lck than soyuz though is 
Good for you
i mean, we get enough bulins to mlb every ur
she has an acc skill
That too. Plus I wouldn't say whale but just dedicated people
Are they still maintaining? For some reason it let me logged in
10%, better than nothing
1 hour ago
if u don't move from the screen u can still be in i think
bro is in the backrooms
Yeah I went to opsi a bit then it kicked me out
Datamine for new RN event
Bizarre
its already pinned
are there any good italian CVs or BBs that raffy can maybe pair with or is it just another nothingburger faction buff'
depends the range you define good 
wait Andrea Doria.META some kind of FdG/UvH barrages ship? lol
a game like epic 7 too let u in as long as u don't move screens 
vv and mp ig
but neither are that good nowadays
for vanguards i can only think of atillio off the top of my head
M B
i mean, aquila
guess itll just be another suboptimal faction buff
Can't wait to run a fleet of Vittorio, Aquila, & Rafflello
Napoli, Marco Polo, Aquila? Maybe impero?
oh yeah, impero is decent mob
I don't know how good some of them are but just off the top of my head
like pokemon hunters - I'll catch them all
And iirc in the data mine it does say part of her skill (idr which part) also says it goes for subs too? So maybe even Leonardo and the new sub coming?
Do Maggiore and Da Vinci outside support skill stack twice?
Oh btw there is a pokemon stream in a few hours too
If you mean Maggiore's third skill along with Da Vinci's third skill, I think it can but I'm not 100% sure so I could be wrong.
It says at the end of their skills
Stacks additively with other AP cost reduction skills
For every 9 
how does raffaello's debuff compare to vanguard's?
finished

For every 9 finished
for every 9 finished translations 1 cookie
pin updated to the normal event pin stuff yay
How does raffaelo seem right now?
UR BB pogu
she seems like she can do a lot
NJ is a UR BB
heal, barrier, debuff both speed and damage taken, cross fleet barrage and do solid damage
looks like a soyuz replacement for boss fleet in 15-4 
whens your website getting an update? last update was September 6th
soon tm im busy irl š
most of those bits are kind of nothingburger to mention for raffy
What's this?
how long until maintenance ends? im thrown off bc im in japan now so idk when it started
~6 hours
okok thanks
These are quantitative calculations meant to portray the tankiness of a ship relative to portland.
The two new ships are about 60-70% of Portland's tankiness.
Xddddddd
Which other good RN backline we hv?
Gold girls except Littorio?
For campaign aql and to a lesser extent impero
Vittorio & Aquila
More like Aquila
So like only Aquila for the italian ships before this UR banner?
New Meta looks... looks like. Maybe she too
100% barrage from main gun, some deff barrage (like FdG) every 15 sec, some buffs. idk about stats between all other bb ships. ohh just saw her rld
Average stats, maybe a little bit more rld than other BB
Her barrage mods looks underwhelming? 100/115/90
158 too low I guess, isn't?
Huh? Am i wrong?
he was talking about the meta ship
Aaaaaa
No I mean Meta ship Andrea Doria.META
dory fish meta (i cant remember her name)
Uf fck, ok sry
Nelson reto 171, Hood 161 rld... little low, other stats average. At least 100% barrage
Hood FP 347, Nelson ret 442, Arizona Meta 434...Andrea Doria.META 424...fine
Opinions looks mixed so far idk
can't really judge unless after testing 
Man...may be i should hold on to UR bulin this event for implacable , but need to see Raf skill for myself
Also she seems to need to ramp up by stacking white/black pigments to reach max barrage performance
Also only 1 frontline ship can trigger black pigment on enemies
imho black pigment not a problem....questions with white
I mean reading through her skills, the whole white+black pigment thing, I think thereās 2 main issues; the black pigment being RNG which in turn makes the white pigment RNG (and your only gonna get white pigment in high enemy density fights) and that thereās that stupid 5s internal CD for them to receive the black pigment and with them all only lasting 10s I feel like thereās gonna be times where you just loose all stacks to RNG when you can just get damage buff guaranteed from other BB ships already
This
white applies when black pigment applied gets killed
Like, in the case of Alsace, the debuff she applies on the enemy is more a bonus
which it will apply to all enemies in a wave assuming your backline fires all at once
For all we know, the pigments are the same - a bonus
We'd need to test to be sure
or 20% damage gets..
unless your luck is terrible 
eld, laff2, z52 tank will also be pretty good for this
Tldr is UR BB gud
How gud remains to be seen
Trying to guess off of just text and numbers is pretty pointless
Yea so it snowball, if lesser enemies hav black pigment, then it will be moar difficult to get white pigment
enemies will just get black pigment if your backline isnt desynced
yeah z52 in meta for this ship. otherwise without z52 no place for her
which is kind of weird for mobbing since you want desync in mobbing
Iām surprised that they havenāt started just straight up power creeping BBs even more with how much weaker they are compared to CVs still

Am I wrong?
is there chance they change numbers? 20% gotten damage looks high
so i did manage to guess

why 
since +12% dmg (ok not granted as Vang ... but ...) and she does more dmg than Vang ...
Cuz it can be like this. All RNG buffs
Overall thoughts on the new boats?

Hot
Must pull
Yea and we already lose the 6% additional dmg buff if not using RN ship especially backline since they are main dmg dealer
Wait and see
I thought it was 6% to non Sardegna and 12% to Sardegna ships
2 diff buffs
S1 and S2
maybe i did a ENed, cuz i just reach from my job (12h shift at night) and i'm sleepy asf, but i dont think i did that
Yeah initial thoughts are a bit lacklustre especially for a BB, the enhanced barrage doesnāt even have prio so I feel like sheās just gonna be a mobbing BB with random times and RNG for buffing ships damage, so ig sheās just gonna be fighting over Alsace and Sushi for their roles somehow
And I think her cross fleet didn't even gib at least 6% dmg buff coz all the buff depends on the pigments
And Souyz too, cuz she have slow too, but still rng
While Alsus and Soyuz crossfleet includes their dmg debuffs
But her barage is a thing, like 50% crit rate and +20% crit dmg is huge buffs... But still rng. Xd
How are we feeling about raff?
RNG buffer and not much dmg dealer as Soy, Bis2 or Musa ...
50% chance based on fire rate of 2 ships isn't as RNG as you make it to be
but still better than Vang, and she buff considerable well RN ships
the thing is, not much options to get this buffs to benefict from other UR ships we already have
better say no options
with a 5 second cooldown per ship its pretty consistent
They should have done double UR for this ngl but it would be way out of ordinary
double UR is just for annis
Double UR happend on cn anni and december so far
If it was all VG ships and Raf who could proc it Iād agree but because itās all backline and only front VG itās gonna feel bad. Donāt forget stacks only last 10s and 5s CD so if you fail in those 5s back down to 0 stacks you go
this can be interpreted as
soy bz and musasi are also not much of a dmg dealer right
? or my english skills are really poor ?
Im cooked anyways cuz NJ my only UR BB š
BBs can still kill things you know
i mean, fairly positive she isn't replacing any of the top UR meta ships anytime soon but its a sidegrade/possible upgrade to vanguard
i'm not the best to say if is or no, cuz i'm not EN native, so better get a diff opinion
but my intention is to say
Bis2, Musa and Soy >>> Raff dmg
But vanny is one of the top UR meta
I donāt think Iāve ever used Vangaurd since getting her in the rerun lol, one of the few UR chips Iāve not touched
triple BB can still oneshot meta, hybrid comps use BBs and can perform better than single hull comps
i just got my free permanent UR, but I already have shinano and nj maxed (in tw server they are the only 2 options), do I wait or should I just get dupes?
haven't used vanguard in any mode in a good while personally and i have all urs released so far
we just wait for the cat equivalent in the italiano faction 
Does napoli enable the rn buffs?
vanny bzwei alsace is still the current best bb comp
Cool ig
current meta? which combo? cause i've only had success with amagi cv/naki/soyuz
seacat you have a triple BB setup for maihou right 
i do use Vang cuz she buffs FdG ...
but this is the only reason, and with Raff in
maybe i'm seeing a oportunity to throw her out, just need to test if buffs make a equal or better boost on FdG dmg
alsace or musasi
i think
i saw it before but i don't remember if it was only you that did it
expensive though 
I feel like I'm missing something, are rafs buffs really that competitive over vannys? I dont really see it
more expensive than CV comps?
Rng skills
Naaaaah, no way
I would wait. Next one that's getting perma must be shimakaze
yea i still dont have her yet, ty:)
yes i think u can do cv without oath comfortably
the issue with cv is that many +13 that is it
and rld tech 
You can, but issue with +13 all planes is more uncomfortable than +13 3 UR guns
I can share it later when im home
was is the one i asked u to do
? if it is i will look for it for him
CV comp is like +13 all planes and catas
Yeah... I still genuinely dont get what raffy has over vanny
Is her crit rate buff to everyone or to herself
Isnāt the crit buffs only to her own barrage?
Only her barage
Oh
when did raffy > vanny come up 
No one knows until tests xddd
Deathkt cooking it up, I'm trying to see it right now
Is it me btw or is the new UR gun just be the sushi gun alll over again? Technically great damage against one thing but because thereās only one and itās so slow itās never gonna be used?
But its only for their testings and they didnt say it outright
soyuz gun is 24.41, champy 24.02 raffy gun is faster than soyuz gun
Maybe, but mods so doomed
Great with med, ok with light, and doomed by heavy
CV needs rld more, and CV need to +13 3 equip compared to BB
heavy armor is mostly irrelevant
100 for light -> just use MK7, 160 for med -> literally the best triple gun for med, heavy -> just use CV
Yeah
its 24 without upgrade
i dont see anything bad about the gun
Yeah, just average triple
24.38 on +10
pretty sure its 24 at +10
without rld factored in mb
Ye ye, ur bbs are so fast its gonna be average timing
raffy gun is gonna be #1 med bb gun
SAP UR 24.28s
Champy 24.02s
Soyuz gun 24.41s
even faster than Soyuz gun
Are ur bbs finally gonna reclaim something from cvs again? 
from 1 gun when cvs can have la9s?
But you can get indefinite amount of Las. Technically
To be fair you can probably grab like 2 - 3 la9s in the time it takes for the gun to be rerunned so...
2 - 3 is at the WORST possible luck
Possibly even more
Dont think so
tbf with 3 gold gun all the medium armour META can already be oneshotted so unless they make a new META that have insane HP and dmg check, I don't think the gun gonna change anything much
Trust when the game creates another hp sponge to make up for the lack of content the gun will actually change things
i doubt the stance on BBs will change, they are cheap relative to CVs and good but not the best
for opsi
Nah animation time, makes mob clearing so much longer
Min maxing intensifies
for the same cost and plate cost BBs will perform better, but CVs can be more expensive and thus they will outperform BBs at higher investment
animation time is irrelevant for 99.9% players
how does raffy gun perform on heavy compared to our current 20s bb guns
shitass
really bad
i did check pins, i just said probably out of habit 

armor mod is like 50 so it's gonna be real bad
raffy gun is best medium and medium only
i didnt look at pin for gun, idk it was only 50 against heavy 
its like marco gun but on steroids
shameless champagne gun powercreep smh
Standard Italian moment
actually nvm
is it really powercreep when there isnt any content that needs this kind of strength
yes
Yes
yes
yes


gph hivemind 
i just have many alt accounts
it's true i am torva
torva is me
"We are... Torva"
I'll take it. Another gun to make one Salvo kill HStrsngth easier

One salvo > one salvo 
i meant expensive as in oath rings
CV needs rld more
Oath ring is just irl money or free, they are not expensive
and more rld is oath
Why cv need more rld
isn't they slow by default
gotta go fast
Still 15 rld from tech is enogh
unless you don't sync with helena i guess
they is slow compare to chamapagee gun
no rld CV is like 23s
i can only think of double skyraider that does that 
I dont think its really useful comp xd
3 strike is enough for every boss fight, so you can just decide how many tech you need for heavy or light setup
but 4 is more fun
Need more tech rld ig, but yeah
there's a marco gun???
how good is raffy
who knows but not looking hype atm

just like amagi and fritz 
wasnt amagi obvious top tier
something something only 8 planes
some stupid shit about only 8 planes
lmao planelet
i'm such an aviationpilled planecel
i thought amagi was really strong because she could make shinano do bonkers damage
Weren't ppl hyped to to get a 3rd IJN cv to pair with haku nano
do we know the tech on the new ships yet?
I see more people riot because she's not Yamato more
2 bb fp, 1 CL fp
does CN get delayed anchorage 3d also?
anchorage gives flashbacks 
I see ghosts in my dorm š¦
get an exorcism
dont they mean backlash on that? not flashbacks?
we don't know XD could be both
i mean, just read EN version
Dear commanders:
During the test of this version update, we found that the addition of new content related to the "Dormitory Plan" Anchorage will cause some models to crash with a high probability. The technical team is still locating the problem.
temu google translate
Dear Commander,
The release of Anchorage's Private Quarters has been delayed due to frequent crash issues on specific devices. HQ is actively addressing these technical concerns.
No, no, the. Anchorage flashing us is the issue...


general opinions on Raph? 
shes a UR BB
and the practical answer?
she "maybe" good
Don't know game isn't up for EN
EN doesn't need to be up 
The answer is probably wait till everyone can get her skills max and test for real answer
On paper she looks interesting
ya don't say...
UR BB, has interesting defensive capability
defensive?
Yeah lots of healing
wasnt it more shielding
she also got heal iirc
A bit of both
quite convoluted but basically has shielding constantly
and gets better as the battle extends, though if there are sufficient mobs to fight
she like half alsace half vanguard
for single target bossing with no summons she prob just relies on her UR BB ability
she sync better for sure without RLD buff
i dont know where this raffy = vanny thing comes from because im not seeing it
soyuz, alsace, musashi all have that
the dmg dealt buff
vanny buff only affects other BBs
ok
lowest hp heal but only 200 hp 
vanny buffs everyones dmg
poor napoli, she can't even use as tank on her first UR BB.
vanny has 10% all aswell right
chat what does the new bb do
damage
still not seeing the vanny comparison as some other UR BBs have that too
damage buff shield heal
vanny has everyone buff and also BB buff
better than Amagi-chan?
not sure!
suchi calc and cn calc says that her damage is lower than NJ 
she come to power-creep van.
i wouldn't take her over vanny for single target bossing
but failed?
vanny has 10% over 6%, applies forever, and has BB buff on top of it
no CN compare to Fritz?
why compare to her
why comparing a BB vs CV
medium vs medium
her gun actually can be used on other BBs too
I think now its up for JP?
Hello gph
What is the tech for the new ships 
Does anyone have a list of CV/CVLs that give CV rld at 120
jokes on u fritz is giga cracked on all types of armor 
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker you can filter here
ranger does 

No, Ranger gives +1 Avi
Anyway minor update to datamine based on my understanding of how white pigments work, not sure if bugged or intended or maybe I'm just dum
(Changes are in S2 and the TL note at the end of S2)

Any updated thoughts on the new boats gameplay wise?
chat is raffaelo the best crossfleet healer in azulene history
You know the serbian crossfleet
Is it normal that i get "Server down" ?
maybe because the server is down

naruhodo
Wait raffello black stacks expire in 10 seconds?
If they weren't refreshed, yes
Lmao that pos is gonna be hard to sustain 3 stacks the whole time
isn't it white stacks
there are black and white stacks
Whats even worse is that it's 50% chance of attacking black stacks 
yeah it seems horrible and its also 50% lmao
Even Alsace stacks stick around perm
atp you hope that the way people talk about the ur is accurate because then they'll be buffed
although it seems to mostly be hyperbole towards a ship obviously not designed for st damage
I mean how often do you hit enemies with only a single bullet?
Ofc it's worse than 100%, but it'll still almost always be applied on attacking
what's the final evaluation of the new UR
Come back 2 weeks later
too long 
Just like pvp he comes in with missinfo 
when in doubt, always ask yourself 'what would serenity do?'
Though didn't stacks in this game also refresh the duration? So as long as you can reapply within 10s you stay at max stacks?
You only have 5s to reapply the stacks though, right?
it counts individually
Looking at it , vanguards basically have a chance for 2 stacks of black stacks as long as they win the actual 50%. One of backlines needs to win 50/50 with initial salvo. Not bad but the fact that a measly 6% amp has conditional requirements is funny asf
That's what the desc says, I generally don't believe AL descs
It's 50% per bullet btw
ENs official desc says they refresh
Datamine does too
interesting
So yeah I think you have decent chances of keeping it up forever, but you might rarely randomly lose it
Is it good to put kaga and akagi at the same fleet, im new and just saw that their skill work together or do i need to pass?
No, you can apply a stack every 5s (per ship), but you have 10s until it expires
backline cant really fire every 10 seconds though
it's good for them but still not good enough compared to other ship so not worth investing on them
So what ship do i need to invest as a beginner
Well yeah if your tank misses a few times you might lose it
unicorn, your starter, portland, helena
then pull on this event and see who you can get
Hmm
You need at least 1 backline to proc the stacks as max stack frontline will generate is 2 . If frontline misses then you need 2 of them
I did some pulls alreadyš¤£
rip
Didnt know
finally. time for uvh
As long as your frontline fires more than once in 10s it can get to 3 stacks within firing 3 times (Or > 5s if it's faster)
I got kronshtadt
Each weapon can only inflict a stack every 5 seconds though? By the time to get to the 3rd weapon hit, the first one expires?
I got several SR already tho
As I said the expiry was just wrong. Every new stack refreshes duration for all stacks
AL has no functionality for individually expiring stacks
And the official EN desc also says it refreshes the duration
so what's the rundown on Raffello?
too busy to look at datamine rn
So firing 3 times and winning three times means 3 stacks
so if you are perma on 3 stacks (because vanguard ship is refreshing) then damage buff just never falls off?
Considering CB gun cd is long so
As long as the vanguards doesn't miss a stack in the 5 second duration , it should be perma 3 stack . That's not that bad
But if you don't win once within 10s of last application you still lose all stacks
10 not 5
Well 5s from 5s cooldown to 10s buff expiry
There's 5sec cd where no stack can be received, no?
We haven't used CB in ages for meta fights
Plymouth is more then sufficiently bulky
yeah that's right, i'm more referring to what thorin said
i read what grey said like this but 5s
You use a CB once every 3 months for medium harby
Yeah with CB gun it would be rough ig ... though with sufficient reload not sure what the actual reload time comes out as
if it doesn't proc, no 5s cooldown right
Still all this hassle for just 6% dmg buff is just ass
Realistically should be fine considering backline can also proc stacks
What SR ships do i need to aimm
there's a lot in the pool and are good
get hood/enty in medal shop or beginner missions
You might lose buff on the initial burst if your vanguard has skill issues buffing
like if you got hood in medal shop, then get enty in missions and vice versa
When Vanny already give perma 10% to all enemies at all time
Her kit is ... special, there's a lot of conditional things that give dmg increases, barriers and heals
does she do as "low" dmg as vanny?
bcs if she have standard UR dps dmg + buff that sounds good
and idk how to see if a ship have good dps
Jp servers are up already?
Well at least CN calc puts her at lower than NJ dps
last i heard there was extension, check their twitter
Ok
Her barrage mods is pretty low too 100/115/90

How wack are said conditions lol
lol for once we actually have UR BB that's leaning towards mob
Is there any situation where you want 2-3 bb for a fleet? I feel like most of my time playing this game it's either all cv or just 1 bb
yeah similar to fdg XD
Don't we already have Soyuz, Sushi and FDG as mob UR BBs?
I dunno if she's even dat good in mob since she also needs to ramp up performance with the pigment stacks. Probably not top pick for fast clear mobbing ig
How the fk are theymob leaning
they are boss leaning with mobbing capabilities, but this one is Mob focused instead XD
Isn't musashi good at mobbing too?
Musashi is a campaign oriented BB
Hard to tell. But I think one of her stacks are maybe bugged
She isn't a mob oriented BB specifically
Musashi is just cracked at everything
Soyuz doesn't really favour one of the other
So mobbing lol, I used her to fully clear W15 mob fleets
I mean all the UR BBs are very good
FdG is definitely more mob leaning tho
Same with UvH
just because it's can be used for mobbing doesn't mean it's mobbing oriented
Yeah I know, but she is fantastically good at mobbing too, that's my point, not even being able to pull dual duties
UVH sucks balls at mobbing
I use musa for boss. Works too
What's the EU/MENA server called?
There isn't one
Global , only CN and JP and TWA get special servers
They're all based in the same physical location
Is it worth to +13 new ur bb gun?
ping doesnt matter so just pick any
MENA? What kind of region is that?
What server do I choose then
North Africa 
technically not really 1 server, i'm sure they have multiple regional server but yeah all are under EN
Middle East and North Africa
If you download the game outside of those regions you are in global
if the client have English language it'sthe global
That's just NA
and you can choose whichever server you want, they all the same latency wise
Choose the one your friends is in
Alr
No friends that play this game
oof
We need a copy pasta for ravello stacking mechanic
But ig yeah because Raffaello enhanced barrage doesn't have targetting prio and getting white stacks is impossible without extra things to kill, ig that makes her mobbing focused instead of being able to do both?
Is the game f2p friendly?
very
Yes
All URs have a fluff skill, just treat skill 2 as that. She still have 2 offensive skins that works well in single target
Starting out is rough but once you get cubes rolling very f2p
as long as you have decent resource management skills
the name of the game is not actually azur lane, it's resource management lane
It is much more f2p friendly than most gatcha games -- it is very generous in giving you pulls for characters and having not-too-bad odds of getting the ones you want; there are a number of f2p folks that have gotten every available character.
They try to make money in skins, rather than making money getting you to pay for extra pulls to get the characters.
Doesn't that just make her a worse Soyuz if that's the case? Less slow, no prio tagertting, less buff, AOE barrage too
With her mods seems like she's fighting over that medium armour spot too
Literally haven't been tested yet , wait like everyone else . All we are doing is looking at how her mechanics work
As an f2p person, try to resist the urge to get cool skins for your characters, that will eat your limited supply of free gems, which are better used to get more dock space (which increases the number of characters you can have). Outside of events, only pull for a character once per day, and do it from the cheaper light pool, which helps you save cubes for events; during events pull until you have the event characters you want and then stop to save cubes for the next event -- don't try for duplicate characters (dupes are used for limit breaking, but you can also use a universal limit break character called a bulin, so just wait til you accumulate some of those).
After further analysis I think her white pigments are not bugged after all, just written in a very cursed way
Written? As in coded or as in worded in skill description?
A single weapon can proc a stack every 5 seconds with stacks expiring every 10 seconds. The key point is that every single time a stack is painted by a ship, it refreshes ALL stacks painted by that ship. So as long as a ship can consistently paint on stacks , you can generate all 3 stacks from your single vanguard ship
This good enough explaining? @inland shoal
written, translated, what so ever XD
Oh....i read the datamine some hour ago and stacks' duration counted independently, guess they changed that?
Not changed , just not explained well
And only 1 frontline doing the job of triggering the black
And high probability targeting the same target until it dies before targeting another
So everyone will be fighting to kill that 1 mob to get white
The datamine changed it yes, was probably a misunderstanding from CN desc
Coded. The skill desc is fine
I'm going some karma farming
Sounds like the average Azur Lane coding then
When are the servers back online
maint started 7 hours ago and was projected to last for 8h
1hr or so
very long mt is sadly the norm here
You started at perfect time lol
Fr?
yeah, i would say so too. you have the change to get UR, and this game has some busted ship that are quite easy to get
Yeah HSR has like 5 hours max
Idk what's good or not
which is why this channel exists, for some quick answers. there are also guides too.
Big event today after maintenance done
What event
Any good tips for new players?
A whole list: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
3 hours actually š
No way
idk about you but 8 - 7 is 1 for me
It got delayed
are you living in the future bcs i didn't see anything
The future in question: #al-general message
that's JP

Idk the guy said JP/EN
don't trust anything that's not announced by devs themselves
I donāt trust everything on the internet
high chance it will affect us too
you can trust me tho
I wouldn't get my hopes up
which stock to buy?
He's definitely trolling
all of them
i believe there are some guies in the pins too, i guess to get started you can give them a read or something
when is update gonna end?
this is a little bit extra since it is the spaghetti event 
expected 42 mins
it's UR, UR is good
On paper she doesn't seem as strong ad monsters like Musashi Alsace and Zwei. Need tests. Her skills are pretty good tho
just don't expect her to shine in single target bossing
fair enough
because, i still have yk2 and rumey, i might get raffaelo so dont know who to priorizite on
all 
bruh i meant on building.....i dont have any bulin
implacable fritz then
dun have implac btw
in couple weeks she will rerun
really?
Yep
You'll still have 45 free draws
45 from where?
did u get the commission ones ?
Pray I guess
reruns have free tickets
From light rerun system
umm no?
F
really? damn nice
the event ended ?
i doubt that, i think somewhere mid march last i saw
could just be my imagination tho
i think i saw 5
but i don't know if it is a shop expiration date or the actual event deadline
5 March is a deadline
Event's over. The shop will remain until 5 of March
welp, cooked i am.....i havent passed chp 8 tho soooo
arrr well that sucks
we also get UR gun right from event?
Yep. Great vs Medium.
nice
Can't damage heavy at all
idc its a free UR gun im taking it, im still lvl 70 after all
Wait it got delayed? the maintenance
No? It is scheduled to end in 23 minutes
I think they talk bout JP
Jp has been up for a couple hours
But it got delay
Jp been up for hours, i swear i saw here somewhere about a delay
You mean Anchorage?
You didn't. You fell for the jp troll
Was it anchorage idk?
What's the maintenance for again?
Italian event
check patch notes in game news
Is that from now or?
That's JP server. Was
Yall call the women here Ships right?
At the start and end of almost every 2 (or more) week-long events, there is a maintenance. They almost exclusively happens Thursday between 8:00am to 4:00pm CET
ships, shipgirls, girls, kansen
Or just by names
Should I watch the anime?
no one cares really tbh
It won't help your gameplay?
you can. It won't have anything to do with the game except knowing the main ships' personality a bit better
anime has nothing to do with the game so you're not missing anything actually related to the game
but if you want to watch it, go right ahead
so when maintenance over?
16 minutes estimated
apparently, in 15 mins
I thought maintenance extended oooh
Wtf
And some would even recommend you to not watch the anime
Seems to be a troll
there could be an extension but we haven't heard anything about that on global yet
because I heard problem was there I think I read it wrong
24h delay
in the news
Maybe you're mixing up with Anchorage
wdym anchorage
UR gun for what ship, BB ?
oh yeah thank you I realized
Anchorage was supposed to be implemented in the 3d thingy but got delayed in the long term
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That wasn't ours
jp server has run into issues, so it's not out of the question that we will get hit with an extension either
Like seriously
are ours and jp server interconnected?
No
so how does jp run into problem but not global?
No, but problems that caused the delay might be common to both
Keep posting weird jp shit 
because it's not interconnected..?
Because they're not connected
no like what kind of problems would be specific to jp
we'll see in 15 minutes
#al-general message
someone trolled them in #al-general 
that's a good question, thus generally speaking making chances of EN server getting delayed increased if JP gets theirs delayed
But it's still not guaranteed
Bruh

Need ai rules for #al-troll

I don't think it was a troll, rather someone who thought it would imply that EN would also automatically get delayed
Don't mtl shit and present it as en
Hey, we still don't know if the misinformation was intentionnal calm the hell down

we need education on not trusting everything on the internet
Hmmmm
Raff' shield skill seems very easy to proc to make vanguards golded
Let's hope we haven't jinxed it yet and get maint extension
why this sounds like a flag




chat is game up?
Not mine
not this one
im up 
are you in tho
i'm in now
Commander, your game is out of date
have fun downloading 68 entire megabytes!
skill issue
Not very It's extremely easy
im always in, just for you
Maintenance has ended according to Azur Lane twitter account
and another new download 
Since I got the UR Already should I save my cubes or get copies?
bruh need more coins to pull
Is anyone else on the banner besides Raffaello interesting in any way both tech wise and praticality wise or nah
if i pull on event banner it doesnt apply to ur exchange?
Event UR pity is sepreate from perament UR pity
What's the timer for Rafella
if u want to do the pity tech start from the cn anni not now
save
considering you lack a Cube stockpile and implac is soon if not right after
-# I Hope I get lucky and get her on the first ten pull aswell
tf so fast
Luck.
I didn't stockpile enough coins so I'm stuck at 120/200
I got cooked so far 90/200 and only got Maggiore 3 times, also i got this Prinz adalbert as random pull lol anything decent out of her?
decent yet easily replaceable tank
Welp since I'm quite free, And cuz I don't need to get more ships, I'm free to spend my coins right? For now atleast cuz there is still some time before Implac reruns
Why is the coin shop doesn't sell gear skin from the event?
watch me get stuck at 60
Elite hell
what drama did i miss
It's crazy, I got the UR Before any Elites or SR's...
Is the other ships worth puling or only tech?
it does tho
what are you smoking
box
did you somehow stay at the shop just before the maint but right after daily reset
are they new ships? or rerun?
new
RN Raffaello +2 BB FP
05:40:10
RN Maggiore Baracca +2 SS TRP
00:12:00
Andrea Doria META +1 BB FP
04**:**15:00
RN Bartolomeo Colleoni +1 CL FP
01:26:00
RN GiosuĆØ Carducci +1 DD ASW
time and tech for new ships 
thank you so much
i know this is too early to ask but are they good ships?
id keep some coins in stock but yes
probably.
is there any good tech
My First priority is the UR Gun Right? (In the event shop)
FP and ASW techies
i didn't scroll 3 messages up oop
whatās amagi-chanās build timer
420 4:25:00 wow so long
ok
should I use the US lab DD gun for secondaries on the new Italian UR girl?
or standard 155mm Kai?
nvm, thank u for ur luck...i got early
damn i also didnt even get the elites or super rares
100/200, 30 cubes left do i have hope guys?
you only use 155 Kai in W14
keep going tbh, still have hope
Gear lab US DD gun mainly is for DD Locked BBs
and pvp
but isn't it a really good secondary? No spread and nice dmg
How are we supposed to know 
Hmm 3 UR, any idea which priority?
the chance is not 0 so there's always hope
-# I blessed you lmao-
How many UR Bullins do you have?
How much specialized core do you have?
1 bulin, just bought from store
-# I gib u luck ong
Ask again once you have 4
aight welp
The new event got UR bullin at point milestones btw
really?
Ye
hmm i havent even finished my bp
isnt the new UR Italian girl pretty good for mobbing at first glance?
So Uhm, I Got Another Raffaello (Right after my previous 10 pull) .. And I have three UR Bulins.. And I can MLB Raffaello, Shud I?
sure
Team for Challenge mode of this month?
Might aswell do it lol
I got Raff in 40 rolls. should I roll for dupes?
No need
Welp, Implac is gonna wait on Her MLB, Unless I get lucky on her banner as well
There's no way I'm the only one that doesn't get gear skin :mootsooki:
hmmm ok
Come back later once you have 4
We've also got Implacable rerun confirmed
Guys, what kind of auxiliary equipment should I put on it?
good idea to get this one? i have 20 bp selector or so
Comprehensive strategies and example fleets for how to beat Newcastle, the February Incarnation of Aquarius extreme challenge mode boss.
Is the New UR good for Mobbing?
typical cruiser auxes
IE Toolbox and EVA gear
I shoild bookmark this site
Thankss
get 3 of the UR Triple BB guns
If u have that alr then yea go for this I guess
getting about 15fps
Why Three NJ Gun first š¤Ø
Cuz 406 Mk6 works perfectly fine
cus it's good HE guns?
Will she fit anywhere in my team?
this one?
yea!
why do i need 3?
you'd have to +13 NJ Gun to make it fully worth it over a +10 406 Mk6
yeah 15 fps shouldn't make any performance issues towards AA
u are good to blast
recommending triple mk7 is really some bad advice...
otherwise it's a relatively small upgrade at +10
aa is dependent on fps?
wtf
it's been a long time since i played but last time that gun only good for mobbing
How to see Fps?
enable setting on your emulator or something
not right now ig
tho I'll say boot Kron asap and I'd switch to Unicorn instead of Perseus
Guh, I'm on mobile
I mean I'd pick it over the 100mm Kai unless I got 3
some phone have game turbo that has overlay for fps
Also put Nelson in the middle
What is it?
yeah that's your choice, but recommending triple mk7 to someone here is really messed up priority
I was told that by someone here tho
who trolled you?
forgot the name
Wdym by boot kron? And i dont got unicorn is it a big problem?
getting triple mk7 if you're rich is fine, but not when you're just beginning to craft stuff
Unicorn is one of/if not the best healer once retrofitted
How do you not have unicorn š also wtf you doing
Because Kronstadht is barely doing shit at 0LB
Unicorn's very fucking easy to get (Pratically for free from guild shop) and she's very cracked after retrofit
you can get unicorn from the guild shop
ah then I guess my situation was a bit different?
i already have 1 mk7 i think I don't need to get any more?
maybe? idk
should i just get more wyverns?
usually if we see a sus information we correct it right away
and most of these cases like ures tend to be like a smol mistunderstanding 
dont got the materials to retrofit im doing nelson and laffey rn
Nelson?
i have 3 wyverns
3 is good amount, move on onto other things
you can just save the ur prints
time to copy renhex's copy pasta
for electric components ull want 2-3 wyverns = 2 junkers > 2 ryuusei in depot if you didnt already get em > 1-3 flaps > 1-2 457 in depot ( 1 can be from protocores )
UR selectors should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
UR test reports is 1-2 457 in depot > w.e
gold test reports is 1-3 flaps >= ~2 155kai > 1-2 457 in depot > rest
the other u can check pic from /gearlab top bottom prio coz mats are more abundant/not high prios and/or non conflicting
how many tenrai do i need? also is 457 > tenrai?
maybe need some updating with tenrai
i have all those already
2-3 tenrai is good amount
Realistically I've used like at most 2 tenrais at once
2-3 copies is generally the comfy zone for UR gear but that's more like a luxury
btw is the new UR BB gun in the shop good?
should i get 3rd 457 then?
no
Yes
new best anti-med AP BB gun
just save?
nice!
Should I go for the ship or gun?
ye just save if you don't need anything
does soy nakh fritz just burger slam med now
hoarding is always good option if you're undecided or unsure
isn't it sap?
Why not both lol, also gun
sap is technically a type of ap is it not
Yes
SAP is the one that's skewed towards anti-med in terms of BB guns
Are there any event shop gears that haven't been made permanently available when the event was archived?
semi armor piercer if im not mistaken 
-# I meant, which one I should get first, But that works
is kron gun available anywhere atm
that always happens
it taks a few months after WA for a event gear to be addedto a perament source
where's ma shima torp
no
It's a meh torp so not missing much
only do hard mode on event right?
The New UR is Significantly Better than Retro Nelson right?
niche but its viability is better than the yamato gun
nice
if you're able to clear it yes
And it's also worth considering at least clearing A/C so you dont have to do that shit when it reruns and you can get to the 5x daily bonus faster
btw, cubing is less worth it than doing 180 pulls more for a dupe right?
Shouldn't be doing either 
both sound equally not worth 
is freeze roommate the strongest UR CV currently?
Keep in mind Implacable rerun has a non-zero chance of rerunning right after this event ends
freeze roommate as in fritz rumay
cubing pr6 imo is very recommended to catchup on shipyard
it comes down to the person's lenience
guys for ch15 which gear makes the most difference and i should get to +13 first
yeah, i have 1300 cubes atm tho, so i think i could afford going for dupes on 1 ur event. then i'll rego for 1000 baseline
depends on ur ships
but mostly the new aa gun
oooh ok, how many should i get?
Utility wise, not really, her slow sucks ass but she has enough fighter slots to boot Illustrious out of W15 support fleet
Damage wise, solid anti-med/light CV but she doesnt boot anyone out of pre-existing comps
depends
shes best for w15 support iirc, but other than that shes only bis for med afaik with nahk + soy (not sure how it works or what are the conditions)
maybe just do 3 pull daily from now on, if you wanna try your luck. i'd rather not go so hard like that, 180 is quite high
as many as u can
Hello everyone i would like to ask is 77 oil cost for 1 fleet too much or since i don't understand this
sounds normal for a non-oilcap run
what about CVmagi
i see
idk, catching up on ur bulin seems worth it for me
Booted Haku from the IJN Anti-heavy comp
ok to spend selectors for it?


