gameplay-help

[polar raft]

Anyone know how to reduce some data from AL?

[sweet delta]

Reinstall and choose the minimum downloads

[atomic abyss]

data as in mobile data or storage data

[keen sable]

bind first, guarantee it works, then do stuff

[light trail]

how did u know

[polar raft]

Storage

It’s reaching 30 GB for me😭

[mild sail]

No voice, no l2d, no 3d dorm

Check your cache storage, but this isn't really a gameplay help question

[desert tapir]

Am I missing a Grandblue Fantasy reference with Raffaello?

[atomic abyss]

28GB for ios all in iirc

Bind your account and reinstall, deselecting all the unnecessary shit

Game also gets bloated over time

[sweet delta]

Bloated by bigger and bigger shipgirls

[desert tapir]

Ehhh gif here

[mild sail]

Okay apparently cache is very little

But 30gb is possible after multiple updates (some leftover local files)

[worldly pewter]

wait it is actually going bigger and bigger 4.5 app size 20 user data

[mild sail]

Duh

[sweet delta]

#tech-support

[mild sail]

Chat, is this an oversight for T4 parts?

[honest stirrup]

Chat, does the #tech-support channel exist?

[stark quiver]

what?
im sure those are retro bps

[mild sail]

Well that message box is for T4 parts, all T4 parts

I too lazy to make a bug report but I have hope if they want to give us more T4 parts farming

[vital blade]

Question: does this refer to the 5k monthly thingy in events tab?

[stark quiver]

yes

[vital blade]

oh well, I just wasted 5k, whatever

[stark quiver]

how?

[honest stirrup]

Just ignore that warning, it's quite stupid. You can't do anything about having reached the cap

[vital blade]

I bought 5k worth stuff in the proto shop, thinking I hit overall cap

[stark quiver]

was it a UR bulin at least

[vital blade]

yeah, UR bulin and the one dragon empery retrofit item I didn't have

so it wasn't really a waste, more unplanned expense

[honest stirrup]

afaik you can't use these for anything else so yeah it's not lost

[stark quiver]

that was a good choice, not a waste

[vital blade]

yeah, like I clarified, not really a waste, just unplanned expense

I still have enough cores and these shop items will come in handy

anyway, while I'm here, what are some good ways to trash coins?

[stark quiver]

rerolling random cats
buying out the coin shop
coining ships

[mild sail]

UR banner on Thursday
Research

[vital blade]

yeeeaaaah, I'm kinda outearning research, but the cat idea is good

....... "coining ships?"

[honest stirrup]

The cat idea is not good except if you have like >100k coins

[vital blade]

I have 500k

[honest stirrup]

what

[stark quiver]

500k is not 600k
dont need to start burning yet

[keen sable]

why would you need more than 300k for ur

[honest stirrup]

Limit break random ships to max for tech points, cognition awakening, enhance spare parts, retrofits

[eager mulch]

300k to hit pity, and more to limit break them

[vital blade]

I tend to get lucky with UR, it's usually the other ships pf UR events I struggle with

[honest stirrup]

I still don't know how it is possible to get more than 300k coins
I can NEVER get above 20k

[keen sable]

not @ you. at the you need 600k for ur event people

[tight yarrow]

Apparently everyone here except us is oil baron

[stark quiver]

idt i ever said that

[vital blade]

I think the 600k was referring to the cap

[stark quiver]

yea

[white agate]

isn't pull cost like 1500 gold and 2 cubes?

then 300k it is to get to 200/200

[vital blade]

can't remember whether I hit the cap last time a bit over 500k or 600k

[honest stirrup]

you can't get over 600 iirc so...

[tight yarrow]

is jeanne arc a mob or boss kinda ship?

[eager mulch]

people tend to use her in boss but only when they need her

[keen sable]

she's a you're really stressed out about dying kinda ship

[stark quiver]

she keeps vg alive longer

[tight yarrow]

Straight to opsi fleet she go then, tks

[eager mulch]

vets probably don’t use jda anymore

[vital blade]

I wasn't playing for a while and before I stepped away I saved up 650 efficiency plans, been soft grinding PR for like a month now

anyway, thanks for the tips

[keen sable]

wait i assumed you finished all pr and can't coin but you have uncoined pr?

s1-4, pr5 are all coinable

[vital blade]

......... I don't know what that means

[keen sable]

strengthen with coins

[boreal wagon]

ships that have a little coin icon on their blueprint in shipyard can be leveled up with coins rather than blueprints

and its one of the fastest way to get rid of coins p much

[mild sail]

Do you have PR ships

[vital blade]

all ships up to PR4

[keen sable]

find a developed ship from s1-4 that is not fs5 yet

[mild sail]

Full dev level and fate sim?

[vital blade]

not all

[keen sable]

||and agir if not d30||

[vital blade]

uhmmmm, so I spend all blueprints I have and then continue with coins?

[mild sail]

Yeah you have 600k of coin?

[keen sable]

Only up to d30

[vital blade]

oh so up to, not including Fate sim

[keen sable]

You misunderstand. You can scrap any bp over d30 for protocore

Once you scrap the bp possible. Then you can maximize coining

[vital blade]

I don't think it's me misunderstanding as much as us being on separate wave lengths

[vital blade]

so I can use coins only to dev lvl 30?

[keen sable]

I wasn't commenting on coining. You can coin any dev or fate Sim level. Just that you DON'T need to use up the bp first

[soft raft]

You cant coin a research ship until you use up all applicable BPs (besides blank selector ones)

[eternal moth]

Looks like the UR gun is going to be SAP after all, JP notes it's called the Prototype Triple 406 Model 1940 Revised. 1940 is the MP gun

[soft raft]

Marco gun but better? Big if true

maybe the spread wont be wonky af

[sweet delta]

You mean like how kear gun is mk6 but better?

[keen sable]

The rules are.

1. You can't convert bp to protocore that is needed for d30.
2. You can't coin if bp exists.
3. You can't coin if you don't have the ship.

[vital blade]

I don't care about that, my question was purely about having to have no BPs in order to be able to use coins

[soft raft]

Nah that feels more like an American and HE Yamato gun

[keen sable]

There are TWO ways to spend bp. Give to the ship or convert to protocore.

[vital blade]

in 1. You mean I can't convert blueprints for ships under dev lvl 30 to protocore

[soft raft]

correct
the game physically wont let you convert BPs if the ship isnt D30

[keen sable]

No I really mean needed. Like the game is watching you and won't let you do it

[boreal wagon]

what he is trying to tell you on a very convoluted way is that you can use your existing bps to make the ship reach d30 and then if you have any left over convert those to protocores and then use coins

aka you dont have to spend all your bps on the ship itself

[vital blade]

I see

[keen sable]

Say you have a D0 ship and 344 bp. Game will let you convert 1 bp because 343 are needed for d30

[vital blade]

yeah, that is clear answer

[rigid onyx]

you do

unless i misread context

[boreal wagon]

you did

[vital blade]

oh wow, that gets real expensive real quick...... nice, exactly what I was looking for

[soft raft]

only do 10 BPs per day btw

[storm heron]

if you're fancy 15

[vital blade]

yeah, I'm starting off with 60 Azuma BPs

[soft raft]

the diff between 10 and 15 BPs per day isnt really that worth the sheer jump in cost

[vital blade]

292.2K

[rigid onyx]

You could probably make the exact same argument with 6 bps to 10 bps. If you have the coin income to afford 15 it can be worth

[storm heron]

damn 292K

[keen sable]

~~nice i should put a data point for 60 a day in chart ~~

[eager mulch]

how much is it to do it all in 1 day again

[soft raft]

for PRs yeah I could see that argument since it's only like 2.5x the 10 BP price and is below 10k, but for DRs? it's like just over 3x the cost of 10 BPs

[rigid onyx]

a better coin sink for very fast use is just augs

300k worth of bps in one day is just a waste

[vital blade]

yeah, now that I know of this, I'm just gonna keep my coins at a roughly constant point

[vital blade]

augs?

[soft raft]

Augments

[vital blade]

yeeeaaaah, don't have the main resource for that

I already made Augs left right and centre

[rigid onyx]

how tf are you at coin cap with unmaxxed prs with those spending habits

[keen sable]

When you don't know what coining is

[rigid onyx]

what do you research in the lab

[vital blade]

that's the neat part, I didn't know how to spend coins

[vital blade]

idk, whatever catches my eye

well, mostly coin researches

[honest stirrup]

good

They're imo the best in terms of price-results

[rigid onyx]

people don't care about price-results

[keen sable]

now that you blew 292k on a dr, go get 2 for a pr for free because poor

[rigid onyx]

time-results is the metric that matters for research, at least for coins

[vital blade]

I don't do cubes or ones requiring clearing main story

[honest stirrup]

Some people care about not spending 100 cubes just for a PR blueprint

[soft raft]

I mean you shouldnt be touching the cube ones at all outside of a few exceptions (IE when all the other options suck ass or it's a Rainbow one)

[keen sable]

My chips

[little tree]

I always take ur face that cost cubes

[hollow gust]

It's literally not suggested to do so , and it's funny you think cubing is that cheap

[mild sail]

Say what if I like to spend my coin on those gold research, I lose much?

[honest stirrup]

I think that cuz my irl friend who I introduced AL to has accumulated 900 cubes and finished all PR in record times

[soft raft]

not really

[mild sail]

I will keep doing that then

[hollow gust]

900 cubes is nothing

That's how much I spent in 3 months of cubing

[honest stirrup]

He has 900 now

[vital blade]

does the UR exchange metric in build carry over to event pity system?

[soft raft]

Event and perament UR Pity are sepreate

[hollow gust]

Either way , veterans follow different rules , do as they say , don't do as they do

[vital blade]

pity, I'm at 392/400 rn XD

[honest stirrup]

That's why I said it was good to focus the coin researches

This conversation started from nowhere to even begin with

[rigid onyx]

from a price-results perpective the free one's are technically better (because of 0 price) but the real cost of researches is time

[honest stirrup]

results are in the infinitesimally small, which approximates to 0, making the ratio also approximate to 0

Don't question my math

[rigid onyx]

that's... not how ratios work

[honest stirrup]

.

[soft raft]

[vital blade]

well, thanks for the help, now I sleep

[mild sail]

How I do research: if it is gold then I do it

[sweet delta]

Fill your queue with any gold

[rigid onyx]

I fill my queue with gold Qs

[thick plume]

How good is Agir??

[rigid onyx]

very good

premier tank with armor break, decent enough damage, and an admittedly cope slow

[white agate]

and here i was worried to go 200/200 on next banner just for the chance of extra copies

[stark quiver]

i pull for dupes

[white agate]

basically speaking, at least for me when doing gear focus
30 minutes researches
rigging researches(aka the plates ones)
4h gold research
1,5h gold research
blue face ship research
refresh if noone of the above, at least for me

[rigid onyx]

i unironically think pulling for UR dupes might be better than starting to do 1 hr cube researches

although it's dogshit if you've played for more than 2 years or don't have a stockpile

[elfin hollow]

I know cubes are prio here but should I also consider buying books? I still have a lot of ships to level

[stark quiver]

go ahead
id say its the 2nd most valuable item there

[worldly pewter]

who cares about books get cubes

[rigid onyx]

If you have less than 360 cubes I'd do the cubes because there's a UR event in 2 days

[stark quiver]

mfw reaading is a thing

[white agate]

@stark quiver why shake?

[stark quiver]

obviously get the cubes first
and then get whats next on prio

[worldly pewter]

i think because u included the 4h gold research which is so bad

[rigid onyx]

the event ends before they can get all the cubes

[white agate]

gold 4h are the best gold researches tho

[sweet delta]

I think nobody calls it the gold research

[stark quiver]

[white agate]

coin research?
ofc i never take the free one

[sweet delta]

G4 or grant or coin

[worldly pewter]

i think the 4h gold one is the complete chapters

[stark quiver]

just call it 4h G

[sweet delta]

But coin could refer to G or D

[rigid onyx]

Oh 4 hour gold as in costs gold

[white agate]

yeah the purple 4h 6k coins research to be clear

[rigid onyx]

I was lost I'm ngl

[elfin hollow]

ur not wrong but I'll try to get as much as I can

[keen sable]

if you know cubes are the priority, there's nothing else you should buy before cubes.

[elfin hollow]

yes sir

[woven star]

Buy cubes, make pools, retire ships, buy upgrade part/books as you call/ from medal shops...profit

[lapis linden]

Gascogne or Marco Polo is better for mob fleet?

or should I swap out Independence to fit both in a fleet?

[keen sable]

maybe if you explain better?

[lapis linden]

for OpSi mob fleet

[sweet delta]

What are you even mobbing for where you need to use gold BBs

[lapis linden]

or should I just place in unleveled ships into my mob fleet

[stark quiver]

3 cv shaboing

[lapis linden]

ya i got a 3cv fleet for bosses

[keen sable]

i use 115's all the time except for uni

[lapis linden]

ah good idea thanks

[worldly pewter]

how do u do the strongholds ?

[lapis linden]

we can have 4 fleets in total so maybe i can lvl up another healer

[woven star]

One enough

[lapis linden]

strongholds are the bosses or the weekly 200 AP ones

oh that one i can just heal in port

[woven star]

First fleet mobing and leveling ships. Second BB, third CV, fourth crosfleet barrage or some help for second and third

[lapis linden]

most of my crossfleet ships are already fitted in the 2nd & 3rd fleet

[woven star]

Independence iirc have cross, Kronsht has too plus some more ships. I almost never use 4th

[worldly pewter]

u can do leveling + mob can have some xfleets + bb + cv
usually the mob fleet is the one that does the stronghold without the need to go heal

[worldly pewter]

yeah i personally just use indep uni uvh for mobbing

[lapis linden]

ya i can do strongholds without healing in port currently, not sure if it's doable if i fit in unleveled ships

my UVH is still stucked at research lv20

[woven star]

I have uni in first plus some ships who needs exp. 100-110 more then enough for content

Btw UvH with cross should be

[wary skiff]

How long until jintsu meta shows up in dossiers?

[worldly pewter]

don't confuse uvh with fdg

[lapis linden]

oh shit i did

[viscid swift]

if you're lucky the patch after this upcoming one

[lapis linden]

i dont have her tho

[worldly pewter]

the baseline for a mobbing fleet that does the stronghold is indep uni and anchorage tanking
fill the rest with good ships

[lapis linden]

i put anchorage in my boss fleet

Kala Ideas is my tank for mob

[woven star]

Something like that for first 3. Still have lack of CV ships and their lb. Btw for first fleet get best cats for cats nodes

[lapis linden]

why does ur first cat looks special

best cats = highest lvl?

[worldly pewter]

why do i see kear instead of haku ?

[hollow gust]

Those fleets are

[woven star]

Haku 53. And I fan of BB. Want Kear. At least drop it when 120 get

[worldly pewter]

he is missing a good cv and eld should be in the cv fleet
the rest can be rearranged too

[woven star]

Haku in process of developing

[little tree]

Is exp farming opsi viable?

[worldly pewter]

but kear isn't a BB

[hollow gust]

Fleet 3 needs a total revamp

[woven star]

Halved as 12-4. 500 average instead of 1k from 12-4. Free exp is free exp

[hollow gust]

Using one of the best vanguards in mob is a war crime too

[little tree]

What is fleet 1 vanguard

[woven star]

I know

[worldly pewter]

not to mention mamagi is still lvl 119

[woven star]

And 4*. I told needs investments). My CV still sh#$%t

[lapis linden]

this is mine

[worldly pewter]

yeah ur cv fleet is kinda non existant then

[forest palm]

looks fine

[glass quest]

What DD currently deals the most damage?

[hollow gust]

It has issues but nowhere as bad as the other one

[shut night]

PLSSS CAN I USEEEE LEXINGTON INSTEAD OF LOng island plss abdou

[stark quiver]

Bro
Use Long Island

[shut night]

Ok ;-;

[little tree]

Long Island 🏝

[lapis linden]

you can satisfy ur needs later on

[hollow gust]

Shimakaze technically has the highest possible dps but she has so many flaws , z52 is just a better ship

[shut night]

Hehehe

[hollow gust]

Lexington is decent enough , but why the fk are you constantly switching ships. Nothing should be changed until you grab ships like Nelson and enterprise

[shut night]

Nelson???

[worldly pewter]

yes but not advisable as it is a nolife method and most likely u will get stuck on cog chips in the long run

[lapis linden]

if i change my mob fleet into something like this it will still work right?

[forest palm]

ehhh...

[hollow gust]

Do what you wish , it doesn't take much to kill a stronghold

[forest palm]

your mob fleet is fine

[stark quiver]

Listen to whatever was said in the thread
Please don’t deviate from the reccs

[lapis linden]

for that extra sweet exp

thanks

[little tree]

I would use it to help level ur and kazugoma

[shut night]

Hmn

[glass quest]

Should I use my Shimakaze with 200 affinity or my Z52 with 100 affinity (both lv125)? I‘m not sure whether the stats increase due to the affinity is crucial

[little tree]

Z52

[hollow gust]

Affinity is essentially worthless , it's such a minute difference it doesn't matter

[woven star]

I maybe change one vanguard of 125 for another leveling ship. But looks fine

[hollow gust]

It's only applicable for tryharding certain timings

[little tree]

Affinity only matter with bb and cv timing s

[worldly pewter]

imo use the regular method of 12-4 or the next event D3 to level them up D3 is a lot easier

[lapis linden]

maybe unzen. where should i fit unzen then? in bb fleet?

[worldly pewter]

also FP and AVI HIT

[woven star]

I just say having one more 125 in vanguard is waste some free exp. But it's all depends on your needs/research or tech points..

[hollow gust]

Support ships are more valuable in operation siren , your Sandys Yuudachi etc doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things

Also farming operation siren for exp is such a waste of time , finish opsi early and farm in 12-1

[stark quiver]

Hi goose

[lapis linden]

i actually have most of the research ships completed, but i don't have enough blueprints and coins to lvl up so i just leave them as they are

[thorn tartan]

after a sortie, there is a tactical screen on the right side with a meta ship in it and some experience gain listed. I can have more than 1 ship in there right? Does having more than 1 ship split the available exp?

[woven star]

I'm now on Plym research so z52 brainless tank + 2 RN ships. Uni heal and some other 2 main for leveling

[sweet delta]

Yes, no

[thorn tartan]

how many meta ships can i have getting exp at the same time?

[eager mulch]

6

7 maybe

[boreal wagon]

the thing on the right isnt for ship exp its for skill exp and u can have as many metas gain skill exp as u want rlly

[eager mulch]

full fleet + 556m iirc

[thorn tartan]

so just go unlock more meta skills and they all level, exp is not split

[worldly pewter]

how many ☆ is z52 ?

[woven star]

Don't forget unlock

[woven star]

Mlb

[worldly pewter]

u mlbed z52 before mamagi

[forest palm]

the only issue is if the Meta skill doesn't level you start to run out of missions, and xp progression halts as missions outside of repeatables until you level a skill up

[hollow gust]

[shut night]

For starter,should I spend gem on 3rd row of the dorm?

[woven star]

I'm not a fan of CV. Meta dps good but game should be fun

[stark quiver]

buy third dorm slot and second floor

[thorn tartan]

I didn't understand this

[shut night]

How to get 2nd floor ;-;

[stark quiver]

top right of dorm

[worldly pewter]

as long as u are having fun i guess i m also a bb fan btw

[hollow gust]

How is BB more fun then CV

[stark quiver]

im a fan of getting the job done

[woven star]

Big gun

[hollow gust]

We have been using the same boring ass gun for the past 4 years

[worldly pewter]

yeah big numbers TBH

[stark quiver]

doubting me

[forest palm]

• META Skills have an XP Progression Syste
• They're varying Missions that give certain amount of XP
• It is possible to run out of said Missions
• Leveling a Skill Up refreshes the Missiosn

[shut night]

Can't unlock, need to expand space apparently

[stark quiver]

after you expand space

[thorn tartan]

where do i find these missions?

[boreal wagon]

the same place u unlock the skills at

[worldly pewter]

then most likely because we weren't playing for that long
that is why we find them fan
probably

[thorn tartan]

I usually just stumble on it somewhere in the meta section

[stark quiver]

cvs have high damage ceiling, so i like cvs more

[woven star]

Have you seen Musashi guns... oh Boi these guns

[boreal wagon]

lab > meta lab > select ship > tactical research

[hollow gust]

Those guns are hot garbage

[worldly pewter]

just u wait for the new gun and ship
will make u a traitor for ur cvs

[hollow gust]

With CVs getting faster a normal champog gun is usable

[forest palm]

I'm just waiting for the new UR BB Gun to somehow be SAP, and Disappointing

[thorn tartan]

can i level all 3 of Taihou meta's skills at the same time?

[forest palm]

1 at a time

[stark quiver]

not by missions

[boreal wagon]

considering its been confirmed to be marco gun kai it probably will be sap

[woven star]

I'm afraid she has less then 3 bb guns. But no speculations

[thorn tartan]

oh i see the missions now.....

[hollow gust]

Those salvo counting means jack shit

[boreal wagon]

mounts is a arguably useless thing to focus on becaue skills can make up for it and so can eff and many other things

[hollow gust]

So what she has less then 3 guns

[worldly pewter]

did u see her screenwide barrage ?

[boreal wagon]

its the whole kit that matters not one specific thing

[hollow gust]

It's like caring Amagi has one less planes

Turns out she out damages haku regularly

[forest palm]

Raphael's barrage looks pretty fat, so I'm interested

[stark quiver]

i hope shes ass

[woven star]

2 days left. Will see. Expecting something interesting

[thorn tartan]

Do all the meta ships have level 120 tech?

[worldly pewter]

i wonder why the haku i have always outdamages mamagi

[boreal wagon]

all ships except collab and childrens day ships do

[woven star]

Yeah her guns little bit smaller the Musy

[viscid swift]

and muse ships

[stark quiver]

uhhh , bad gearing?
rng?

[boreal wagon]

i knew i missed one

[stark quiver]

[thorn tartan]

is there any reason not to have 15 meta ships skill training at the same time?

[boreal wagon]

not really

[thorn tartan]

well i just started 4

[hollow gust]

Why use a meta ships

[inland shoal]

Only reason would be to not spend skill books on unlocking the skills in the first place

[thorn tartan]

but i have tons of skill books

[boreal wagon]

last time i checked leveling skills and using them are different things

[honest stirrup]

I upgrade meta skills for the sole reason of not having a red dot on my screen

[woven star]

Btw how we get new meta? Is it from shop?

[honest stirrup]

Exchange yeah

[white agate]

shop, map drop and also 0.5% pool drop, so you are basically granteed to get her if you play normally

[green inlet]

Now that we have the Eagle Union UR AA gun what are the best aux for Laffey 2?

[hollow gust]

Still the manjuu lol?

[wary skiff]

what is "back most position"? in regards to helenas skill.. is that flagship?

[eager mulch]

off tank spot

[wary skiff]

ah i was gonna put helena meta there so i guess it wont help the buff

[eager mulch]

buff is

[hollow gust]

Treat helmet as a dps

[woven star]

Eldridge/Laffy2/SanDiego... idk what's better choice. If talking about Helena buff

[shut night]

Guessss whoose backkkk

Anyways I need help AGAIN. I can't beat stage 3-1 , I tried 3 times without auto ;-;

[keen sable]

did you gear...

[shut night]

Obviously

[keen sable]

what did you put on penny?

[shut night]

One sec

[keen sable]

Just farm 2-3 a bit then. 3* all of 3

[shut night]

Ok thx on it

[keen sable]

Make sure you're leveling skills. All except li and portland

[keen sable]

Every level over the enemy is +2% damage dealt and -2% damage taken. That's why levels are being emphasized

[daring tendon]

Hello, I just started world 14 after not playing for a while and I'm already heavily struggling with 14-2. I also can't find any tips in the pinned messages about it.
So is there anything I can do to improve my fleets?

[viscid swift]

well at the very least get everyone to level 120 but some of your ships choices aren't brilliant and there are probably gear issues as well

[hollow gust]

Percy and Amagi should go, frontline isn't very optimal for mob

[viscid swift]

and I just realized, that is an ancient just3c boss fleet

[stark quiver]

How u know

[daring tendon]

Just3c boss fleet ?

[viscid swift]

back in the day there weren't a lot of W14 guides....

yeah and that's the reason why my Amagi is 125

[viscid swift]

don't worry about it but point is, boss fleet could easily be better

[forest palm]

glad someone else noticed

[daring tendon]

So wait what are some alternatives for the frontline if I don't have: Shimanto, Guam, Napoli z-52 or maxed kronshtadt/Hindenburg ?
Or at least where can I find new gearing or ship tierlists/guides.

[viscid swift]

well depends on what you have

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

but this would be a good place to start

[glossy granite]

Btw how do you sort the rank in that spreadsheet

[ivory pawn]

You may want to make a copy.

Otherwise you'll be fighting everyone else currently viewing the doc.

If you're on mobile, you'll need the Sheets app to change the sorting. Won't work on a browser view.

[stark quiver]

That’s how it works

[daring tendon]

Would something like this be better ? With leveled up ships ofc.

[daring tendon]

Mostly German/French ships, but I can send the SR/UR's I have.

[hybrid spoke]

You can clear chapter 14 with only Ironblood ships if you want to make your life more miserable

[daring tendon]

I could probably try and do it that way, it's worth a try.

[hybrid spoke]

It's more of a fun thing to do, definitely not optimal or recommended

[viscid swift]

Swap Musashi+Aquila and FDG+Fritz around

[keen sable]

why would you want to make your life more miserable?

[viscid swift]

that goes beyond fun and more along the lines of self inflicted misery

[daring tendon]

Because most of my Ironblood ships are lvl120 and I've got most of their gear/synergies. So it sounds like a reasonable thing to do, in the moment.

[viscid swift]

yes you can do it but it's a lot of manualing and resetting even with high tech, oaths, good cats, +13, etc

[sharp socket]

you can do meme fleets when the node is safe

[fluid compass]

To get exp for PR ships, do the ships in your vanguard have to be lvl 100?

[viscid swift]

no

[fluid compass]

Ah ok. I thought it was going slower than usual. Thanks!

[keen sable]

or never is even better

[keen sable]

There's 2 IB ships in the top 20 vanguards and they're the two obvious ones. it's not a thing

[hybrid spoke]

My first 14-4, full 3*clear looked like this
Mob: Zeppelin, Odin, Elbe, Ägir, z23, Mainz

Boss: Bisco2, avp, Strasser, (Tallin), Regensburg, Blücher

Like I really don't recommend it, also you could probably use newer ships like Rumey, z52 over other ships

Again I don't recommend doing it, you better listen to the other advice lol

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

you don't reccomend it and yet you're bringing it up
I'm seeing a difference between what you're saying and doing

[hybrid spoke]

It's for fun

[forest palm]

[sharp socket]

14-4 wasnt that easy for me when i was running almost full recommended fleet anyway so you're better off following recs

[viscid swift]

not to mention that fleet isn't even that good taking into account the limitations you've set for yourself

Ruppchrect is a better cope healer than Elbe, not to mention Schultz, one of the best vanguards for W14 as a whole, etc

also if I wanted to be picky Tallinn is not an IB ship in game even if she was formally Lutzow

[hybrid spoke]

That clear was before pr6+ Rupprecht is a BC youd lack Aviation

Also I used Elbe not because of her heal

[viscid swift]

esdeath managed with 3 BBs

[hybrid spoke]

But because she is a CVL that can equip ASW gear

[hybrid spoke]

That's great!

[viscid swift]

and that was before UvH even released

[hybrid spoke]

Oh btw Imo it's totally fine, I see Tallin as a lost sister

[hybrid spoke]

That's really impressive I don't even know how this would work

[viscid swift]

avoiding DD modes entirely
and a lot of resetting

[forest palm]

sounds like ass

[rigid onyx]

faction fleeting is basically just a self imposed challenge that makes no content easier. Synergies and faction buffs don't make up for not using a better competition

[hybrid spoke]

Oh that's not what I was expecting

[keen sable]

resetting haha. might as well mutsuki it

[viscid swift]

the fleet was soemthing like
FDG, Odin, GZ, Roon Muse, 2 other cruisers I can't remember

[hybrid spoke]

So they reset the stage until there was no DD note at all? Like you have to fight a couple of times for full clearing that really sounds not fun

[viscid swift]

oh that was just a regular clear, I don't even think esdeath attempted to 3 star with that

[hybrid spoke]

Ah fair enough, would have been awful especially before uvh times. Anyway I should stop spamming this topic in gameplay help

[viscid swift]

but anyway these days you have a lot easier time with it

[light trail]

is halford particularly good in any certain situations

she's just cute?

[viscid swift]

something like
Mob: Ruppchrect, FDG, GZ, Z52, Z1?, Schultz
Boss: Zwei, Strasser, Fritz, Agir, Hindenburg, Roon

[keen sable]

you're not the one keeping it going anymore

[viscid swift]

at the moment she's worse than a starter

[keen sable]

+1 EVA is good

[viscid swift]

no joke

[light trail]

eh, at least she's cute. tyty

[storm heron]

haha u remind me of someone

[rigid onyx]

+1 eva is... okay? on dds

[viscid swift]

better than HP tech at least

[hybrid spoke]

I don't think HP tech is bad on DDs actually. Would probably prefer that and rld in some cases over the EVA

In terms of Fleet tech buff

[viscid swift]

it's not but there's not enough of it, at least from 120ing ships to make a difference

[hybrid spoke]

That's true, would love me some more

[viscid swift]

like, there's 256ish total but only about 50 of that actually comes from 120ing ships

[rigid onyx]

dd Eva and hp are both pretty mediocre tech tbh

+1 hp is just such a marginal percentage gain that it's bad in general, even on the low HP dds

and dds already have such high eva that +1 to that is also not great, at least in my opinion

[daring tendon]

Oh yeah btw, what are some good planes nowdays ? I've only got one CV with newer ones. I'm still mostly using Hellcats and helldivers.

[viscid swift]

mebot did the maths and evasion is better than HP at least

[storm heron]

+13 xsb2c

anyways that setup is fine, not really the best, but not totally shit either

[weary gust]

The skyraider is mega out of place.

[storm heron]

campaign should be fighter - bomb db - parallel tb
bossing should be conv tb - bomb or tocket db - conv tb

[daring tendon]

I only have these to replace it.

[storm heron]

helldiver is uhh, better than like all the gold

[viscid swift]

do something like that for gear

[daring tendon]

Ah, I guess it's back to the oll helldiver and hellcat combo after all.

[viscid swift]

there is better but it'll take you too long to get it all together for W14 and frankly you don't need it

[daring tendon]

But are the necessary for world 15 later on ?

[viscid swift]

no but it starts going from not necessary to highly reccomended

and that's a more modern set up for that fleet for your refference

Flapjack, Wyverns, and Tenrai can all be found in the gear lab

[nimble knoll]

What armor type is champy gun good against again?

[viscid swift]

all 3 are "highly reccomended" for W15 so if you aren't doing OpSi already I suggest making a start

medium and heavy armor

[keen sable]

medium and heavy

[white agate]

particularly better vs medium, nice vs heavy too, tho i prefer to use 3 cv vs heavy
also don't forget about helena since champy gun is to sync with her

[nimble knoll]

That's Great

[daring tendon]

Thank you for the info ❤️

[white agate]

so, about w15 boss fleet; woudn't vanguard be a top tier pick due to good aa?
or are other bb's characteristics better?

[viscid swift]

that's not a W15 fleet

[white agate]

isn't is 1 bb and 2 cv's?

[viscid swift]

yes

but anyway, Vanguard, I would take over FDG and UvH, maybe tied with NJ

[white agate]

not even better than musashi?

[viscid swift]

nope

[white agate]

if only i could +13 a gun for musashi

[sharp socket]

the mob backline is a w15 setup adjusted for w14

mob w15 would have twin 137 for sushi secondary and just eld with hedgehog for asw, uni can be double cata, maybe some beacon/manjuu for stagger if you really want it

[frank pulsar]

musashi is the one of the best bb for w14 and the best for w15, vanguard is a huge downgrade from her in this case imho

[keen sable]

i wish i could too. too bad it can't go past 11

[fluid compass]

Do we have to wait for Voltage Rising rerun to get Eldridge rf item?

Aww. Boooo. They should put it in the shop or something.

[ivory pawn]

They will. Long after the rerun.

[fluid compass]

Great.

[wary skiff]

is there any way to remove all the aannoying notifications that i cant do anything about

like my gold is capped out right now, and its constantly pinging me to collect it

[wind hazel]

go to settings and uncheck the notifications

[summer gyro]

how do i get stronger? keep dying in 2-3. Should i farm for lv?

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

use better ships

[grizzled sundial]

Level up , give better gun . Invest in a few good ships .

[summer gyro]

so i need to pull right? i read that guide, it said don't pull unless it's an event banner

[grizzled sundial]

No , with what you currently show i could easily pass early world stage till world 8 , as a f2p .

Of course save cubes for event .

[summer gyro]

so i need to join a guild to get better ships?

[grizzled sundial]

Also , enhancing your ship . You only need 1 of each ship , use the copy to enhance one . Like that Repulse , use the spare one to Limit break .

[wind hazel]

no, you can use guild shop without being in a guild

but it's still good to join an active guild for resources

ignore the repulse, do what the guide says

in fact retire your extra repulse because it give you medals

[wary skiff]

i unchecked everything and still have notos on everything, p sure those that got disabled were only push notifs

[summer gyro]

oh ok ty

[wind hazel]

can't disable those red notifications in the game, you will need to clear whatever that is left undone there

[wary skiff]

ye one of them is wanting me to collect coins i cant collect so its just there forever?

[wind hazel]

i dont think coin will give notification...

maybe im wrong but im constantly capped i don't get it

[wary skiff]

well, I open the screen where the red noto is and the only option that stands out is the coins.. sucks i guess

[wind hazel]

actually i do get it, i was wrong

start to get used to that one then

[ivory agate]

Which series 4 pr ship shld b prioritised for developing? I got Agir already

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage

And august

[wind hazel]

i'd skip august and wait implacable rerun, and do anchorage and haku

unless you don't plan on getting implacable

[gleaming saddle]

how accurate is this for BiS for Shinano?

[ivory agate]

Thank you!

[wind hazel]

read the descriptions

[stark quiver]

ngl really accurate for campaign, its the most standard loadout

[gleaming saddle]

Thank you my guy. I just got my first tenrai the other day so I want to max her out. I assume maxing out one ship at a time is advised?

[stark quiver]

yea kinda

[wind hazel]

define maxing out

[stark quiver]

i saw it as
just leveling and putting gud gear

[gleaming saddle]

that's what I mean by it. Is there that much more to max out?

[wind hazel]

yes...

[stark quiver]

yah

[wind hazel]

a 0LB shinano is trash and should be benched, for example

[gleaming saddle]

she is max LB

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

and leveling should be done equally, you can't really max one ship out at a time

[stark quiver]

well skills and enhances

just work on your entire fleet

also hey mori, did you max one type of ship tech at the time (eg. only cv rld until max for backline) or mixing in different hulls

[wind hazel]

mix, usually 1bb 2cv

since bb rld is like 17 anyway, cv have more

[stark quiver]

ima max out cv rld, the mix ig

[storm heron]

cogs

[wind hazel]

take the chance to put good ships with trash ship

[stark quiver]

i have 50k left

[wind hazel]

leveling all 3 trash is painful experience

[stark quiver]

what type of tech for cv has the worst ships?

[wind hazel]

rld, pre retro hwah jah and chen hai

[storm heron]

just retro for collection, save yourself the trouble

[stark quiver]

should be smooth sailing then
though i hvae all my non mlb metas for last

[stark quiver]

yea i did that after hwah jah
uh
exploded

[wind hazel]

😭

[molten zinc]

And they're smoking hot post-retro so it's a win-win

[stark quiver]

should 50k cogs be enough to max out cv and bb backline tech starting from half

[wind hazel]

assuming half elite half super rare, no

[storm heron]

we have a cogs calculator at the tool right

[stark quiver]

almost all super rare

[storm heron]

not that I use it tbh

[wind hazel]

then even a bigger no

[stark quiver]

holy fack

will it be enough to at least finish cv tech

[wind hazel]

can do around 22 ships with 50k, assuming all super rare

[molten zinc]

I'm still missing Princeton META for the last CV RLD

[stark quiver]

how much cog does each take 💀

[wind hazel]

-3k+ for new italy UR, ~20 ships give or take

[stark quiver]

im at 32 rld,8 hit and like 34 avi

[wind hazel]

2200 for SR

[stark quiver]

i shouldve locked in

whatre all my sources

[wind hazel]

just finish the rld i guess

[stark quiver]

idt i have a single gold left for rld

[wind hazel]

just input your ships on lars tracker and see what the remaining cogs are

[stark quiver]

retropaint

[wind hazel]

think it shows on retro too

[viscid swift]

retropaint also has that feature

[proper patio]

I want to equip my CVs en masse with torpedo planes, but I'm in doubt, is the one in the photo better than the barracuda? Or is it worth making the barracudas that are cheaper in the laboratory or the one in the photo?

[stark quiver]

its not bad

[wind hazel]

this is better than barracuda, but don't make barracuda from gear lab

[stark quiver]

get barracudas from like tech boxes

[wind hazel]

also don't make anymore of this skypirate from gear lab either

[sweet delta]

this is better than barracuda, but don't make barracuda or skypirate from gear lab

If you want to equip CVs en masse then just put whatever like +0 shit gear. No point in crafting good gear just to be too poor to +10 them or not use the CV anyways .

[wind hazel]

wtf detective

[forest palm]

[alpine portal]

Who should I use for synergy with Shinano?

[stark quiver]

amagi cv

[keen sable]

amagii

[stark quiver]

if not hakuryuu

[alpine portal]

Can I use Sushi and Amagi?

[stark quiver]

torps go bye bye

[rigid onyx]

amagi cv specifically

[alpine portal]

I know, I have her. Just need to level her up

Are Renown and Repulse META worth using in a META fleet?

[stark quiver]

renown meta is a pretty gud gold bb iirc

nevermind i mixed it up

[sweet delta]

A META fleet is not worth using, and if you still want to, renown and repulse are not ideal for it

[alpine portal]

I think you meant Repulse

[stark quiver]

i meant rodney

[alpine portal]

Oh

Im at the point in the game I can make any fleet I want, I already have 2 main fleets

[sweet delta]

But do you have the ships? Rodney and Nagato are the best META BB/BCs

[alpine portal]

I have Rodney I think

Nvm i dont

[rigid onyx]

There is no point in stacking singular factions in a fleet aside from self opposed challenge. You only really want to look at factions when there's a good pair (AmagiCV + Shinano, Soyuz + Nakh) or a ship requires ships to activate conditions (yorkii, shinano). The 'synergy' you get from faction buffers does not justify the fleet-building restrictions that building a faction fleet imposes. Meta ships in general are also pretty mediocre tbh

[alpine portal]

Ah, so at that point, its more of a waifu fleet more than anything?

[rigid onyx]

Basically

[alpine portal]

Makes sense, 3 years in, Im still learning

[soft raft]

Gold METAs are "Good/Decent but better options exist"
Elite METAs just suck ass

Their only value is if they give good fleet tech

[alpine portal]

I actively use Renown and Repulse META

[hushed sorrel]

if you were able to play with them i dont see why not. most content isnt that difficult in the first place

[alpine portal]

I mean, yeah

thanks for the info, lads

[near cargo]

Whats good purple gun to be used as Secondary?

[keen sable]

bb or vanguard?

[plain saffron]

Bb or dd or cl or cl

[near cargo]

Vanguard

[versed forum]

is this month arbiters med or heavy?

[stark quiver]

med

the arbiters actually cycle each month, there are 3,
light 1
med 2
heavy 3
light starts on jan, and then it cycles thru

[ancient kettle]

Did anyone made a video on the new updated gear lab or no? I’m really curious about how good or bad the new rainbow UR AA gun from EU is

[stark quiver]

new best AA gun

#media-content message
check this out

[ancient kettle]

Thanks! I appreciate it! 😁

[mild sail]

Currently we can only get 2 SY-1A missile?

[golden moth]

The datamine will be out tonight yea?for the new UR event

[stark quiver]

probably not

might come out sometime before maint tomorrow

[river junco]

datamine will probably only be out after first server gets maint

[viscid swift]

well there's no data to mine

yet

[golden moth]

Ok ok will wait till tomm..guys i know this is dumb question..i just feel why this upcoming UR event is not that noisy or not that hyped

[stark quiver]

its kinda like that for all events
mainly cuz no one have any clue how good she is
and italy is a less known faction in gmae

[soft raft]

probably because

1. This isnt May or Sept when it's also anniversary month for CN and JP Respectively
2. Febuary is always a dry ass month due to Chinese New Year
3. Italy is a minor faction and this is their first major event in like 2 years

and the people who have constantly clamoured for a Italian UR are a very small subsection of the community

[rigid onyx]

There are 4 rerun URs and 4 new UR events a year, they can''t all be hyped up

[zenith pebble]

oh word?

how many ur are there at the moment

[viscid swift]

34

[stark quiver]

stacked

[zenith pebble]

so uhhh

to collect the rest ill need 9 years

brother what the actual fuck man

[stark quiver]

more like 2ish years

[novel condor]

2 ish tbh ye

[zenith pebble]

i left for 3 years and i get bombarded

isnt it 4 per year?

[viscid swift]

more like 6 now not including DRs

[soft raft]

Uto forgot to mention that UR events get Archived like regular events do

[zenith pebble]

so ill be getting 6 reruns this year

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

4-6 depending on how often they want to do double UR events

[viscid swift]

2/4 are double UR events

[zenith pebble]

so 2 ur ships

in total about 6 ur ships then

[soft raft]

Who knows

[zenith pebble]

11 more ships i need

[zenith pebble]

ive got faith

[timid solar]

guys who else besides kazagumo has the carrier buff?

[stark quiver]

Benson

[keen sable]

stephen potter

[stark quiver]

ariake retro
kearsarge (special req)

[timid solar]

ah ok, thanks,. i don't have any built unfortunately

[stark quiver]

month end in 3d
just pray ur server gets dd pool medal

[lofty zodiac]

So next year newplayer will have to deal with 12 UR/year(with rerun)
Enjoy to found the bullin!

[stark quiver]

[mild sail]

What?

[river junco]

im coping that laff2, mog, and z52 reruns will give another 2 copies so I can mlb them with 1 bulin

[vocal sand]

22422 is the limit?

[stark quiver]

no
thats the monthly 5k limit

[vocal sand]

oh

[stark quiver]

afaik theres no limit to how many spec core a person can hold, just how much they can earn per month

[soft raft]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[soft raft]

And even if there were a limit, it sure as hell wouldn't be anything besides 1 (insert a bunch of 0s here)

[vocal sand]

can i wait next month to claim it?

[stark quiver]

honestly yea

[soft raft]

This month ends before weekly reset so sure if you want to

[vocal sand]

ok

[mild sail]

Doesn't matter, you will hit the next month cap anyway

[plain saffron]

The limit prob unsigned 32 bit integer limit, unless until they change the code

[mild sail]

The illusion of free will

[limber jacinth]

why can’t I retrofit her? Sorry I’m still new-ish to this game

[vocal sand]

need gold bullin press the +

[limber jacinth]

ahhh thank you 😵‍💫

[turbid shell]

DDG vanguard is good for mob fleet?

[crisp raven]

a new UR event starts tomorrow and you dont have a lot of gold on hand. id wait to retro sandy so you can pull for the new ships, unless you dont care for them. sandy can wait.

[summer gyro]

why is this ship different from the others?

[stark quiver]

its a meta ship
it uses copies of itself, turned into "meta crystals" to limit break
they also have special missions to level up skills

[summer gyro]

should i use it now? it doesnt have skills tho

[plain saffron]

Bench it

You can use 2 purple book to unlock the skills. Do mission to lvl up

Elite META should be a lot easier to lvl up skill. But the ship itself is meh

They don't consume dock space just let them alive

[summer gyro]

oh ty, it looks cool tho

[stark quiver]

you can just set her as secretary

[plain saffron]

You can raise if you want later on

[slow fox]

This post has been fact-checked and verified by real eHP patriots

[turbid shell]

i forgot the question mark
are DDG good for opsi mob fleet?

[wind hazel]

they are okay

[summer gyro]

should i do the self training?

[wind hazel]

no

unless your oil is overflowing and you're not gonna play the game

[wary skiff]

heck is self training i dont have that

[shell willow]

its garbage anyway

[summer gyro]

oh i see

[keen sable]

Good if you don't play the game a lot

[elfin hollow]

Who to retrofit next

[mild sail]

Sort by ship that can actually be retrofit
Open that sort tab

[wind hazel]

nelson

[wary skiff]

what is the bonus bp from?

[stark quiver]

just a bonus lol

[keen sable]

Nelson because you aren't getting a ur bb anytime soon.

[tender lotus]

Any thoughts on new ur aa gun?

[stark quiver]

new best UR aa

[tender lotus]

Alright i hope the wiki updated soon

[sharp socket]

me when raffaello in 2-3 days

[nocturne glade]

brest, prinz rupprecht or chkalov first?

regardless I wont be able to use any for a while cause of bps

[cobalt rapids]

ig u alr answered ur own question

[nocturne glade]

hm i guess

[cobalt rapids]

the golds are coinable however so if ure not doing any coining rn then do chkalov so u can start coining her

[nocturne glade]

great, I guess I'll do that then. Ty!

[polar lion]

So does flagship cover reduce burn dmg?

[frank pulsar]

it should

[polar lion]

Thanks

[dire compass]

Hey guys, so I been away from AL for...A WHILE [said 176 days iirc] So missed Amagi (CV), Z52, and Fritz as far as URs go and behind on PR7

With that said I have almost every other ship, SOOOOO I could use a hand remembering good comps for W15 fleets. I appear to have left off partially through 15-3 with 1/2 at 100%

[fickle hollow]

Is +13 Izumo gun better on Musashi or +10 Daisen gun against Heavy armor boss.

[cobalt rapids]

izumo

[shell willow]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[dire compass]

Will take a peek, thanks

[dire compass]

Hmmm, ok peeking at it Mob Fleet seems easy enough

Boss seems trickier, Might be able to run Mushi, York II, and Enty...

[nimble knoll]

Is this gud?

[tame jungle]

not particularly

have people sent you the equipment guide yet

[nimble knoll]

I forgot, But lemme take a read

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

now they have (i am "people" now)

[jaunty vault]

communism be like

[tame jungle]

is that true

[nimble knoll]

It's better than what one of my ships are using, Should I craft it?

[tame jungle]

torpedoes for manual

[jaunty vault]

what is one of your ships using

[tame jungle]

personally, i wouldn't bother with these at least

[tropic tusk]

theres no point sending him guide best just answer him (webiste too many things to read , he doesnt read)

[tame jungle]

thanks for your very helpful input brother

you look very cool now

[jaunty vault]

im cooler

[tame jungle]

p*

[nimble knoll]

This one, and It's not on the guide

[left cedar]

cuz is shitty

slower asf, lower dmg than quad, and less % of hit in auto ...

[jaunty vault]

yeah that torp is bad

[nimble knoll]

Would the other one be bettah then?

[left cedar]

quad mag, and quad mag improv

[jaunty vault]

the one you're asking to craft can be better

[nimble knoll]

Aight, Mi is gonna replace the one z1 is using then

Is it worth to +10 or somewhere lower?

[jaunty vault]

torp plates are abundant so +10 should be fine

[nimble knoll]

[turbid shell]

Soyuz skill that require 2BB or 2CV doesn't have to be in the same faction right?

[boreal wagon]

they can be any faction yes

[raven canyon]

is CV Amagi good at mobbing?

[wind hazel]

most URs are good at mobbing and bossing

[raven canyon]

oh thanks

[turbid shell]

do Ulrich crossfleet effect also apply in the same fleet Ulrich in?

[eternal basalt]

Cross-fleet is cross-fleet, not own fleet

[turbid shell]

ok thank you

[forest palm]

you'd have to run 2 Ulrich

[rapid grail]

is the max rld tech values for cv and cvl 41 & 44 respectively?

[forest palm]

ya

[rapid grail]

ok ty, i think my bb, cv and cvl rld is done. what's next for backliners: bb fp, hit; cv avi, hit?

[forest palm]

Hit → AVI ~ FP

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Total_Stat_Bonuses

[quartz nest]

Idk where else this would fit but are there any news about Taihou META getting voiced?

[keen sable]

No, quint mag is better than 610. Basically mag > everything

[undone plover]

These are usually part of the patch notes if I am not mistaken

[plain saffron]

not in notes so not time yet

[quartz nest]

Yeah but i meant will she be voiced or is her VA also on strike

[undone plover]

usually it is because of scheduling issues and they tend to get voiced a few months later

[plain saffron]

we have no idea

also since when JP VA have strikes

[quartz nest]

This happens regularly with metas? Didnt remember it took so long, alright then ty

[undone plover]

not necessarily with metas
sometimes some skins are not voiced or new characters

[forest palm]

they're some ships that've gone over a year w/o being voiced

[quartz nest]

I said metas because i remember them often not voiced on release

[forest palm]

it can happen to just about any ship in the game, recording schedules are a bitch especially if the seiyu is popular

[brittle terrace]

Is she good?

[inland shoal]

She's okay, nothing amazing though

[brittle terrace]

Ohhhh, but for a newbie?

[inland shoal]

Still the same, also gotta consider she costs gold bulins

[brittle terrace]

I already have two

Idk what to do with the gold bulins tbh

[sinful escarp]

also dont waste your cubes to continue pulling right now

there is a UR event tomorrow after MT

[brittle terrace]

Alright, besides after getting her I won't be pulling much except for events anyway

[tropic tusk]

dont lb units unless u can mlb

[brittle terrace]

Ohhhh

[tropic tusk]

and thats for all kinds of bulins

[brittle terrace]

I like white hair girls, I was intending to get enterprise but I got her so it's alright

[tropic tusk]

u should be doing 1 light pull daily outside event anyways

[brittle terrace]

That's what i did and that's how I got that kiev

[tropic tusk]

[brittle terrace]

Still idk how I get so lucky with those SRs

I have these already

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Construction click here to the timer for every ship

[brittle terrace]

Ty

[weary gust]

Knowing the build timer does absolutely nothing to help with getting the ship you want from builds.

[brittle terrace]

At least I already got the list of all the ships now

[tropic tusk]

he doesnt know wht the pool contain so i just show him whts inside

[keen sable]

By blowing cubes right before a major event

[keen sable]

anyways use zkk and heiny. You want to use Belo but can't afford Belo and zkk and zkk is more important because she fulfills hull requirements that Belo can't. The alternative would be to use all 3 and pray for something better that doesn't use gold bulins but risk getting level capped.

[brittle terrace]

Ohhhh ty

[trim path]

13-3 hard. help, please

[covert tulip]

Hi, is there a guide here for chapter 14 ? thanks!

[hollow gust]

You can technically just use the w15 guide , w14 generally isn't very hard anymore

[frank pulsar]

no guide, but i can give general tips
stagger backline properly to increase dmg uptime (you dont want everything to strike at once or youll waste dmg)
use a bb for both fleets and equip a good secondary gun for defence
avoid flares, but take lighthouse
avoid shrouded nodes and 3* bb nodes if possible (if forced to take 3* bb node, never take them out of ammo)
14-3 and 14-4 mobbing require asw, if you arent using laffey ii or eldridge retro you will likely need an asw plane on top of hedgehog
14-3's boss is the only one thats light armoured

oh and aa is not a problem unlike w13 and w15 so any decent aa gun works

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[sharp echo]

i just know now that if u feed the a cat into the same type of cat, the skill level will increase

[tawny cove]

Would this be a sufficient Mob Fleet for OpSi? (Basically everything besides Arbiter and Abyssal Zones)

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4NgBgJghGCA0AOArLSCAsbOKmAvTXBWAdg3hlhgQCIykBDF1urAXQWCWj9KgxE2WCXxhaUYonKU%2BNRA2asW7TFx4BOTRADMw6Yh2i8BDFJKyZEXAvqMVqzhvAQUcGdkmDzhRJH9aeEg7JVYAEyd1bjBtD1JsCDwfUwDSdwl-JNIISEFFMnDIpgAjKI1IMnjyTCCyWrwkXE8SMF4cqtCHRzUOLlg%2BgEIIADoIMkHNXQBTAGNwqqA

[undone plover]

I think u need a primary healer
I doubt aquila will be enough
better use unicorn/perceus

also this will struggle vs stronghold last boss even with unicorn

are u looking for the best one u can make? or do u want to specifically use these ships?

[hollow gust]

Italian faction fleet

[elfin hollow]

I tend to agree, healing from aquila might not be enough in strongholds but other than that it should be able to clear normal areas..

[silver lintel]

whats the fastest opsimob fleet

[spare jungle]

Just want to ask, is Hipper Meta good/worth the build?

[undone plover]

@silver lintel this is for backline #gameplay-help message
And this for frontline I think #gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

Worth what? Coins? Meta mats?

[hollow gust]

Hipper meta is stronger then all the Eugen class CA but that's the lowest possible bar for a SR ship

[spare jungle]

Sortie?,Op siren? yea sum like that

[hollow gust]

There is so many ships better it's not even funny

[keen sable]

Much better than portland, not as good as anchorage.

[undone plover]

she is a decent ship
whether u should use her or not depends on what u have
in general META ships are a bit annoying to use especially when u are new since their skills and materials are not the easiest to deal with

If u want post your current 2 fleets and we can tell u if she is an upgrade to what u have
but in a vacuum I will say u can easily find better options

eventually worth raising to level 120 cuz she is CA FP but that is hardly a priority, nvm she is HP tech

[spare jungle]

ooo ok ok, i just wanna know tysm

[elfin hollow]

can anyone explain what's the difference between aux1 and aux2? Like, am I gonna use both of them in combat or maybe the stronger one?

[tropic tusk]

white hit more and black crit

[little tree]

Using a non mlb ships smh

[tropic tusk]

ya also y not mlb and ur using

[elfin hollow]

I see, so both auxs are to boost my dmg and crit while combat, about mlb... maybe I should use my UR Bulins to mlb her

[undone plover]

no dont

save for new UR, she will most likely be better than NJ
Plus u can get more NJ dupes from perma pity over time
basically NJ is "free"
Not worth using bulins on

[keen sable]

27 fp 15 hit read the skills

[elfin hollow]

yeah, I was just wondering if both work at the same time since they are very similar, now I know

[novel solstice]

The stats stack; two copies of the same skill don't stack, so you don't want to use two white shells at the same time, which is why one of each of those is a recommended setup.

[woven star]

White shell is more common choice. Black depends on what you have. But average useful for beginners

[woven star]

Kiev present in War Archive. Don't spend many gold bulins on she. Idk if there's a reason to mlb she

[brittle terrace]

Ohhh okay, I'll save the bulins for now

[ripe peak]

why cant i add more?

[honest stirrup]

Not sure what you mean by fastest, but if it's what I think it is, I like to set my "fast clearing" as
Aquila+Perseus+Alsace (any fast loading BB)
Anchorage/Guam (any good tank)+Shimakaze+San Diego

I personally find it quick enough because of the good dpm and the fact that Alsace, Percy and Shima have good dpm making weaker fleets be cleared in seconds while having the survivability to never be manually healed from 1st enemies in corrosion 1 to last enemy in corrosion 6

Some people could prefer better DD, idk I haven't seen the most recent DD performances in dps

[boreal wagon]

the actual ship has to be level 10

[woven star]

Abyssal Refrain 60 runs D3. So save place if decided lb

[brittle terrace]

Okay

[rapid grail]

sounds like high effort for decent ship

[worldly pewter]

indeed don't go for war archive for dupes sounds like pain

[rigid onyx]

Three CV because bb salvo slows the screen.

I think the common opsi mob fleet for speed specifically is just stacking uni/percy + 2 fast mobbing cvs (not preload) and then a vanguard with good dps like z52/hind/ibuki

[white agate]

can ancho,eldkai,bayard work?

[woven star]

This wa like 11-1 with Rudder drop. Idk maybe to that time he'll get all mlb. But imho better invest in Heinrich and then Kiev

[white agate]

wait i thought i was in pvp chat, forget i wrote it

[rapid grail]

For perma option; yes. Though why not Shima instead of Bayard? Both are permanent alr

[fluid compass]

Will these two fleets be good enough to clear W13? I think I heard I need a lot of AA, so I'm thinking it might not be.

[woven star]

@brittle terracebtw if you just start to play in AL then rise level Portland and what ship you got on start (z23?) they part of new player quest so you'll get more resources when complete it

[fluid compass]

I'm working on getting Cheshire atm too, so I'll slot her in once I get her if necessary.

[worldly pewter]

there is no need to rush w13
dwell a little bit in 12-4 and raise the ships

[fluid compass]

Probably just get NJ - Monty in the picture leveled?

[rapid grail]

get: Sandy, Juneau, Indepkai. All 3 have good AA (as intercept for the latter)
can i see what's in your dock aside from those ships? May open some more options if you want to build your account into clearing W13

[eternal basalt]

And work on event tomorrow instead of world

[fluid compass]

Yeah, I was gonna do the event anyway, but I also just kinda wanted to see if I could do w13. There's some repeats in the dock, cause I sorted by lvl, took some screenshots, then sorted by rarity.

[woven star]

SanD good AA ship. And retro will be appreciate

[wind hazel]

you're far from ready for w13

[fluid compass]

Yeah I heard she's good.

[fluid compass]

What changes do I need? Just more AA?

[woven star]

stop isn't w13 is suicide ships map?

[wind hazel]

need to raise a lot of ships

main limiting factor would be gold bulin

[fluid compass]

What ships though? I'm hearing Sandy obviously, but out of the ones in my dock, I'm not sure which ones I should be raising.

[wind hazel]

unicorn, volga

you can use stlouis if you can raise her dev level

[cerulean musk]

does this do anything

[fluid compass]

Unicorn is lvl 123 and I have both Sara and Enterprise so I'm not sure Volga is necessary.

[limber oriole]

I have no clue what that is

[wind hazel]

why arent they in the screenshot..

oh i see the first screenshot now. my bad

[fluid compass]

I have another screenshot above those ones with my main fleets

[woven star]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

you are quite ready for w13 i guess, maybe some more level

just raise their levels

[woven star]

@fluid compassno FdG?

[wind hazel]

also i recommend raising volga nonetheless

she's a very good ship

[fluid compass]

I don't like her, so I haven't been working on her. I'm working on Cheshire, Anchorage, and Felix Schultz atm

[wind hazel]

[fluid compass]

Thoughts on replacing any of the 5 up top with any of those 3? (Except Helena.)

[limber oriole]

You should focus on leveling and developing anchorage tbh

[fluid compass]

I'll get FdG eventually... but also I have NJ, Alsace, and if I'm lucky the new BB tomorrow.

[wind hazel]

well cheshire is kinda garbage

[limber oriole]

Cheshire isnt that bad, this has a surprisingly high aa for a ca

[wind hazel]

anchorage is good, felix is... something, i guess, but also redundant

[fluid compass]

I was gonna say, isn't Cheshire pretty good AA? Also, yeah ik I have way too many tanks

[wind hazel]

yeah but cheshire only has AA, and that's it. and she isn't needed on w13 with that kind of line up

[limber oriole]

Alsace is barely mlb tho, idk recommend something else but thats my opinion. I just got here so i need time to catch up on the convo anyway

[wind hazel]

he has soyuz nj, he's fine

[fluid compass]

Oh yeah, forgot about Soyuz. Also, I'm gonna be getting 2 UR bulins soon, so then I only need 4k more proto cores.

[woven star]

UvH or FdG (cheaper) if got problems with suicided ships... so smth like that

[wind hazel]

just keep the UR bulin for now, wait for UR tomorrow

[limber oriole]

She has good hp though, but thats alsp why I still recommended anchorage. Cheshire isnt that bad though, she has similar stats to some other great CA's. But like most cases, theres better ships. But i feel like calling her bad is an overstatement, she just isnt optimal.

[fluid compass]

Well I don't have it atm anyway lol

[wind hazel]

she's obsolete, that's what it is

[limber oriole]

Doesn't mean shes necessarily bad, just not optimal

[fluid compass]

She may be obsolete in the meta, but not in my heart.

[wind hazel]

i'd rather focus on getting better ship from shipyard than going for cheshire, like Harbin

[soft raft]

tho if you dont have Guam, Cheshire still works fine

[limber oriole]

Which is why i recommended anchorage, im not clueless to meta's

[wind hazel]

yes, see how i said anchorage is a good ship...

[fluid compass]

Is Anchorage that good? I thought she was pretty middling.

[wind hazel]

don't cherrypick my words

[woven star]

don't rush for it but you got the way

[limber oriole]

And im not disagreeing? Why is everyone so defensive

[limber oriole]

I mentioned anchorage before that

[wind hazel]

and i am agreeing with anchorage, what's your issue?

[soft raft]

roughly the 2nd-3rd most tankiest ship in the game
but if you're looking for DPS CAs, then she's not gonna cut it

[mellow cape]

How are you even judging ships?

[limber oriole]

You're being defensive and kinda childish. All I disagreed with was that cheshire isnt bad and that you're kinda exagerating and your acting like its some attack

[wind hazel]

???

[fluid compass]

It was probably just miscommunication cause it's hard to discern tone through text. No need to be rude, guys.

[mellow cape]

Both Volga and Anchorage were mid for you :0

[limber oriole]

General stats and skills and practical use.

[wind hazel]

anchorage is good
cheshire is redundant, when sandy is gonna be invested. why invest in cheshire?

[woven star]

Ancho good tank ships for situations without heal. She can help other vanguards to survive

[wind hazel]

what is the point in getting cheshire, lol

[fluid compass]

Cause I like Cheshire, that's all.

[wind hazel]

she's really only gonna be relevant for w13, after that she has not much use

[limber oriole]

at this point you arent hearing a word im saying

[mellow cape]

Noooo talking to mozotis. I'm very aware that they're both amazing LOL 😭 just hurts seeing Volga and anchor not being used

[wind hazel]

well neither are you

[soft raft]

that just makes your conclusion more confusing ngl
cuz Volga has strong pratical use as a secondary healer paired with Unicorn and like I mentioned earlier, Anchorage is very tanky

[limber oriole]

Ah

[limber oriole]

It is sorta cofusing. But its not an objective guide, just an indication. You'll figure out if a ships good by simply using them or using some community guide.

[fluid compass]

Anchorage not at all. I thought she was middling as far as the meta went, but I love her character. And according to Hood Retro, she's pretty good anyway. Volga I could kinda care less about, and I've never used her so idk how she is in the meta. I know she's up there and pretty decent though.

[wind hazel]

anchorage never left the meta

[mellow cape]

Anchorage is top tier tank

[limber oriole]

Wait nvm i misread

[woven star]

Ancho is not Cheshire relevant. Lets say SanDiego>Cheshire, Napoli>>Anchorage

[fluid compass]

As I have just learned. Better excuse to use her!

[fluid compass]

What do you mean Anchorage isn't Cheshire relevant?

[limber oriole]

If your talking about me defending cheshire, im only saying shes not bad. But I admitted she wasn't optimal, simply because theres better options. If thats what you mean.

Otherwise im not sure what you're talking about. Im not exactly disagreeing with any statements on anchorage or volga so im a bit confused at what you're necessarily asking me

[fluid compass]

Just not sure what you meant by that. Aren't they 2 different roles?

[woven star]

Cheshire increase AA for her, SanD for whole vaguard (fleet? don't remember). SanD buffed all team

[wind hazel]

they are different, yes...

[limber oriole]

I think he means if you need aa carry in another fleet, thats where cheshire comes in. Is mainly aa and not tanking. Idk thats my guess

[woven star]

I mean Anchorage tank, Cheshire AA ship

[fluid compass]

Yeah. Sorry, I was just confused by the wording is all.

[woven star]

Cheshire dies in main tank situations where Anchorege can't handle aircrafts

[cerulean musk]

is it normal to be dying out in 15-3 mob before running out of ammo

[wind hazel]

no

[cerulean musk]

im getting cooked

[woven star]

5200 vs 6400 hp at least... I know even Helena can be main tank but it's not discussion of that

[limber oriole]

I feel as though theres no focus on synergy here.

[wind hazel]

what

[limber oriole]

Helena main tank? What??

[cobalt rapids]

is ur gear cooked ?
use subs if needed

[cerulean musk]

alreayd used subs

[limber oriole]

Since when?? Shes made of paper towels

[cobalt rapids]

how did u run out of subs on ammo ?

[limber oriole]

Probably setting them into attack

[wind hazel]

auto attack

[cerulean musk]

the subs ran out of ammo

[crimson glacier]

disable hunt

[wind hazel]

reset time

[limber oriole]

Dont set them to hunt, waste of ammo

[cerulean musk]

[viscid swift]

So what did I miss

[fluid compass]

Wait, so at what point are subs something you should be investing in? I haven't had to do anything with them yet.

[limber oriole]

Helena is a main tank as of today

[cerulean musk]

copied the fleet in the guide

[cobalt rapids]

they help alot for harbiter and late campaigns
investing in them is up to you if you wanna make ur life easier or postpone the content till its too easy

[limber oriole]

Then its probably gear. Got toolboxes?

[cerulean musk]

no one in the guide using toolboxes

[wind hazel]

i dont think toolbox is gonna fix that

[crimson glacier]

and that fleet is the opposite of "no focus on synergy"

[limber oriole]

[viscid swift]

They won't

[fluid compass]

Ah ok. Idk, I don't have any good ones except for Archerfish, so I'll just keep ignoring them for now lol.

[limber oriole]

It'll help