gameplay-help

[tropic tusk]

thtats nice

im just happy now im finally done with all pr research , all thats left is just dev30 and fate 5 them

then roughly 5 month still pr 8 right?

[stark quiver]

around end of june, to july

[hollow gust]

If you are currently on 3rd one , you are on track

[tropic tusk]

im on my first one

[storm heron]

I don't think bro's on track

also I thought on track is 4th one

[tropic tusk]

i mean im still new compair to u guys

this is my 2nd year playing

[nimble knoll]

Would 1 EVA Make a difference or Nah?

[tropic tusk]

ur going to have alot ofthose stones anyway soon just by playing so y not

[nimble knoll]

Lmao, 1 try and I got it

[tropic tusk]

its always +

[nimble knoll]

Damn

[tropic tusk]

its just matter of plus how many per upgrade

[nimble knoll]

Would the Left one be better cuz more range, or is the right one better?

[tropic tusk]

u shouldnt really spend much on both as they will only be using for a while and +8 on a purple wt a waste most purple gun u wont be using it past early game

[nimble knoll]

So da gold one is bettah?

[tropic tusk]

yes

[viscid swift]

no

[tropic tusk]

[frank pulsar]

depend on who its for

[nimble knoll]

Portland

[frank pulsar]

purple one better

[tropic tusk]

may i know why

[storm heron]

there was this 6 year old testing

[tropic tusk]

go on

[storm heron]

and it has been found that the purple one is better

[tropic tusk]

because

[stark quiver]

ok? wheres the source

[frank pulsar]

frankly im not sure why either
its just been the rec for the past 3 years

could be due to slightly improved range and better dmg

[stark quiver]

i js wanna know what the source for it is

[storm heron]

gotta backread all the way

[tropic tusk]

i just wanna know why

[nimble knoll]

Should I make another twin 113?

[frank pulsar]

purple one has lower dps, but has higher coefficient so theres also that

[stark quiver]

then what was the point in saying
there was testing, and purp is better, without providing any source or reasoning at all
thats the same as not saying anything

[tropic tusk]

wt aa do u have

[frank pulsar]

yes

[tropic tusk]

yea u can craft it

stop upgrading purple lol

[frank pulsar]

purple one has roughly 52 dps, yellow one is roughly 50 dps
assuming both are +10

[stark quiver]

purp roomba is ok as transitional gear

[nimble knoll]

I was using them before I got better gear

[tropic tusk]

u wasted alot of resoruce for purple gear

[nimble knoll]

Also who should have the twin 113?

[stark quiver]

whos in your fleet

[frank pulsar]

its fine, upgrading to +10 is cheap

[tropic tusk]

i wanna say uni look how said she is

[nimble knoll]

(I've just been lvling Nelson and Enty On Mob Fleet Rn)

[tropic tusk]

he could have use it somehwere better

[inner delta]

not everyone playing instantly know what to do

[stark quiver]

im not gonna lie, probably helena

[last zenith]

What's the required level to unlock the last skill of meowficcer? my cat is already level 22 but the last skill is still lock

[inner delta]

you talking like everyone should have known that those purple is shit

[tropic tusk]

yea i know im just saying dont spend more on pruple in the future

[stark quiver]

25
and then 30

[frank pulsar]

shld be unlocked in increments of 5

so 25 then 30 like what alpha said

[nimble knoll]

+10?

[stark quiver]

if possible yes

[nimble knoll]

I do hab a lot of AA's so not a problem

Should I switch these two?

[sweet delta]

without considering AoA (twin 100 is better but this is portland's aux gun anyways) or FP (twin 120 is better),
Twin 120 does more damage. And that's the purple twin 128 which apparently just sucks on vanguard ships

[stark quiver]

ty for sources

[tropic tusk]

where do find that chart

[frank pulsar]

its his own sim

[tropic tusk]

oh

[vale spindle]

we don't talk about it cause it might be illegal

[zenith pebble]

why are the french so fast

[stark quiver]

the dds?
cuz dev said so

and they were fast irl iirc

[storm heron]

yeah you're right, my apologies. I really thought that it is like a pretty interesting trivia from years ago that concluded twin100mm is a resource trap and only good for ships with AoA beyond a certain threshold. For the testing, I can only found piece of verbose from ectl server that I read years ago when I found the site and the discord, but there might be a just3c video talking about it as well

[stark quiver]

just3c

[sweet delta]

it's about as illegal as datamining the game

[storm heron]

does it mean it's not illegal at all?

[sweet delta]

might as well ban all the dataminers and wiki members

[stark quiver]

data mining is kinda illegal, but devs uh dont care? so yeh

[storm heron]

admins literally pin them too

[ember totem]

[lofty hull]

How do i get this research point

[keen sable]

you wait

[stark quiver]

collect/unlock russian and italian ships

[keen sable]

for the sardine part at least

[lofty hull]

1 lvl = 1 research point?

[stark quiver]

no

im binging manhwa rn

[storm heron]

you gain tech points by obtaining, and limit breaking, level 120ing

[lofty hull]

Well shiet, dat gonna be a pain in the ass, especially the Italian one

[keen sable]

the factions that are listed in the amounts needed...

[keen sable]

@lofty hull

[dusty terrace]

italian event soon that should help

[honest stirrup]

Dw if you're struggling for tech points you'll definitely suffer when it comes to gathering 3.6m exp in specific ships of minor nations

And in gathering blueprints

[lofty hull]

I'm already struggling with 3m sortie Vanguard of japanese ship

[keen sable]

you shouldn't be...

[honest stirrup]

tbf most people start the PR grind way too early (the appeal of a guaranteed SR/UR that everyone claims to be good)
But at low levels you barely have 1 or 2 worth of fleets at above level 100, so when the game throws a sudden curveball by forcing you to get a specific lineup you just weren't ready

[shell willow]

before you reach w12 it can be pretty slow

[inner delta]

not it can be, it will be

[honest stirrup]

It's not even about reaching w12, most people seems to do that in 2-3 weeks or so. It's about having ships good enough for even 12-4 while respecting the nation criteria

[keen sable]

there's nothing slow about using a one fleeting eu vanguard for saint louis. it's 100% natural. what is a waste is being told to not do saint louis because you need to use an eu vanguard

[inner delta]

you dont need good ship, you just need to know what to do

[stark quiver]

2-3 weeks seem like a stretch

[little tree]

~~ what one ~~

[storm heron]

2-3 weeks w12 is level 70 ahh thingy

[nimble knoll]

How can you get core data's again?

[storm heron]

aurora pace

[stark quiver]

hard mode

[nimble knoll]

And? Is that it?

[stark quiver]

hard mode

[keen sable]

3x hard mode

[stark quiver]

you get a small amount from weekly

and sometimes event reward

[storm heron]

well sometimes you can obtain a bunch of them like returner's, 3x events, raid events

[keen sable]

38k raid or something like that

[nimble knoll]

I'm saving for indep anyways

[tropic tusk]

hard mode only has 3 runs per day so its not that hard to do it (as long as u 100% it its just basically 3 boss fight per day )

[verbal plinth]

so on the ending screen from doing 3x maps is there a way for all the items to go in order i thought i saw a screen shot of them like that

like this is this a thing?

[shut night]

Guys, I just started and is at level 11,I wanna know which units I should use a my second fleet

[dusty terrace]

at lvl 11 you probably should focus on one fleet only

[shut night]

Aight, but once like when I’m higher level?

[shell willow]

it does go in order but this doesnt seem like 3x

[verbal plinth]

not mine i just saw it and was wondering why mine was all over the place

[glossy granite]

What chapter stage you at

[shell willow]

when you do multiple it will not stack all the items, instead stack them per sortie

[shut night]

2,1

[verbal plinth]

ohh ok

[shell willow]

i cant really explain better

[glossy granite]

You def dont need a second fleet until you are like chapter 10/11 or struggling at chapter 9

[sinful escarp]

i would say start making a 2nd fleet at w10 or w11. before that its not that worth it

[shut night]

K thx

[sinful escarp]

also dont pull yet

there is a UR event next MT

[keen sable]

that doesn't look like 3x

[sinful escarp]

UR is the highest rarity of ship, and they are strong

[glossy granite]

Big event in 2 days, dont spend cubes

[keen sable]

that looks like HELP

[shut night]

👍

Should I buy starter packs ?(lvl 5,10,20,30) packs?

[sinful escarp]

imo no

even if you arent going f2p still no

[shut night]

When event?

[shell willow]

thursday

[glossy granite]

In 2 days

[sinful escarp]

a new one in 2 days

[dusty terrace]

battlepass is good if you wanna buy something to help

[glossy granite]

Very big big event

[shut night]

Yeah if I buy it and use it for event?

[sinful escarp]

i wouldnt tbh

[shut night]

So what do I spend the gems on?

Dorm?expansion

[glossy granite]

I would not buy them especially if at that lvl i would not know if i am gonna play the game for a long time or not

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /gems

dorm expansion doesn't use gems...

[shut night]

Mb

[sinful escarp]

tldr for me is 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor dorm
rest for dock slots

[shut night]

K

[glossy granite]

Do u know what dorm is

Mah man my braincells are collapsing by the day

I confused dorm with dock 😭

[honest stirrup]

Well the second floor does but it's not useful until later in the game

[keen sable]

that's not what expansion is though

[dusty terrace]

you guys still have braincells?

[upbeat wagon]

afaik getting dorm to 3 slots takes gems

and after that the second floor takes gems

[honest stirrup]

Me dumb

[upbeat wagon]

So 300 for 3 slots and 500 for second floor

[keen sable]

training slots need gems. 2nd floor need gems. expansion does not use gems.

[upbeat wagon]

But increasing the size of the room takes decor coins

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but I feel like since the guy above talked about using gems it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume he was actually talking about buying slots

[keen sable]

which btw is generally impossible for someone on 2-1

[upbeat wagon]

probably

[glossy granite]

Its the beginner cycle, when you think too much about a random thing

In my case it was PR1 ships lmao

[mild sail]

I never asking where I should spend my gems during my first years, I just know to hoard it like a dragon

[honest stirrup]

For most people focusing too much and too early into PR ships was an issue at the beginning of the game

[mild sail]

"ignore the shipyard" people said repeatedly

[glossy granite]

There was some newcommer here who was overthinking so much about Gears aswell

[honest stirrup]

But funny UR

[dusty terrace]

that feel when you start the game because of a PR ship and then you realize it will take a year to get and use her

not me with harbin two years ago

[honest stirrup]

Me and FdG

[mild sail]

I watch a few YouTube videos in 2020 and that's it for gears

[glossy granite]

In 2020 i completely forgot why i started and how i found this game 😭 , all i knew is i like what i was playing but was a complete idiot

[honest stirrup]

Funny colours (green and red) is how I dealt with gears

[glossy granite]

To not make this general chat, when are the datamines? Tomorow?

[bold cove]

2 tenrai is a must right?

[mild sail]

Do not put 2 tenrai on one carrier

Just use this

[glossy granite]

All these guides were so bad for me back then lol

[bold cove]

I mean i already had 1 and i can craft 1 right now

[mild sail]

Gear lab or depot?

[bold cove]

Gear lab

[tropic tusk]

if im not wrong people say dont relay on youtube video for gears

[mild sail]

I would advise you craft a wyvern

[bold cove]

I had 2 wyvern

[mild sail]

2020 this was 2020

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[bold cove]

And wyvern need UR bp, tenrai need t3

[mild sail]

I would prefer either more wyvern or flapjack

[bold cove]

I had 10 flapjack... And continue to craft more

[mild sail]

Electronic is a constant threat

[tropic tusk]

u can craft tenrai in gear lab now no?

or was that another plane

[bold cove]

I can now

[tropic tusk]

[bold cove]

Yeah

[tropic tusk]

time to farm opsi

[bold cove]

Im confused about either tenrai or UR BB gun

Those 2 need T3

[mild sail]

The 457mm?

[tropic tusk]

/gearlab try this

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[bold cove]

And upcoming UR BB, considering i have no BB main fleet, only fdg and musashi is UR

[crimson glacier]

you have no BB but you have BB?

[tropic tusk]

[bold cove]

3 BB for boss right?

Or 2 with a CV

[crimson glacier]

the usual team for campaign is 1 BB in each fleet

[bold cove]

Cheap and easy access for boss 😦

[mild sail]

Usually comp would be 1 BB and 2 CV for campaign

[tropic tusk]

isnt it 1 bb for mob and 3 bb or 3cv for boss?

[crimson glacier]

3 BB for boss sounds just dogshit for the hard stuff

[bold cove]

Ah yeah, mob fleet is musashi, aquila and unicorn

[crimson glacier]

cant go wrong with 1 BB 2 CV

[dreamy blade]

3bb for boss will also fuck your ACV

[bold cove]

ACV mean?

[tropic tusk]

wts acv

[crimson glacier]

air supremacy stuff

[mild sail]

Air Control Value

[bold cove]

Ah okay

[dreamy blade]

basically if you dont bring enough carriers your ships will take more dmg from planes

[tropic tusk]

[bold cove]

Does it contribute to why ppl rage at new UR is BB?

[crimson glacier]

and you also deal less plane dmg yourself

no, thats just coz theres like 3 non BB URs and 59 BB URs

getting more BBs just gets stale

[tropic tusk]

oh yea now that u mention it there really is shit load of UR bb and less other URs

[mild sail]

People rage at anything, you should ignore people raging

[bold cove]

Oh well, so planes it is i can mlb for yk2 and rumey

[grizzled sundial]

Nowadays CV powercrept most so people tend to have no hope for stronk BB

[crimson glacier]

its not that simple

sure for meta fights the CVs are go to atm

but for campaign the good UR BBs make UR CVs look just useless

[mild sail]

What do you mean you haven't MLB your CVs?

[crimson glacier]

like those yk2 and rumey are just completely irrelevant compared to musashis absolute dominance over meta

[frank pulsar]

people use both
people just hating on her for being bb cuz thats like half the ur roster

[mild sail]

UR bb and Unicorn and Aqualia

[bold cove]

Well, i had 3 CVs to mlb and i can mlb 3 atm, just wait for new UR to decide

[mild sail]

You will use them all, mlb all of them for fleet tech also
Watch the coin tho

[frank pulsar]

if you dont already have a good triple bb setup then waiting for raffaello is likely the best choice, otherwise just go ahead with mlbing yr cv imho

[crimson glacier]

its never good idea to MLB URs just before event

[tropic tusk]

u need the money to pull the new UR .. unless u willing to gem the coins

[mild sail]

Not like this guy can raise raffaello immediately

[frank pulsar]

just farm the coin during event
i went into ur event with 50k coin before and was completely okay

even though i had to pity

[bold cove]

Nah, i saving coins for pulling new UR, after that i will mlb thems, shinano, rumey and yk2

[mild sail]

How relevant Shinano right now in opsiren and late campaign chat?

[dusty terrace]

anti heavy armor bis in opsi

[mild sail]

Cool

[bold cove]

And its a fit pair with amagi cv right? Im dev the UR CV in PR4 atm also

[crimson glacier]

shinano haku imp just beats every opsi boss

[dusty terrace]

ideally amagi(cv) shinano implacable

[crimson glacier]

who even cares about armor types

[dusty terrace]

but haku is still very good

[bold cove]

I dont have implace, when she will comeback? Can AvP replace her in the meantime?

[dusty terrace]

implacable should rerun soon after the italian event

[crimson glacier]

isnt imp supposed to be the next UR to rerun

[mild sail]

Yeah I think you should holding off crafting gearlab to build your fleet first, then see what you need to craft

[bold cove]

Good to know

[crimson glacier]

and avp works but imp is just much stronger all around

[mild sail]

Like imagine you craft a bunch of CV gears but then you get more BBs

[bold cove]

Nah in a few months i just had enough time to do daily and just leave the dock there

Luckily i had 1k2 cubes, ready to pull either new or rerun UR

[mild sail]

Watch this man foreshadowing himself running out of coin

[bold cove]

Running out for sure, lately im just luck with those UR banner

But im not sure with mlb all the UR i had atm and upcoming UR

[dusty terrace]

how many ur bullins do you have right now, or cores

[bold cove]

But i know from you guys is CV is dominating, so i will focus on them

32k cores and 4 bullins

[nimble knoll]

It's not worth pulling on the UR Banner more if you already got it right?

[crimson glacier]

only thing where CVs really pull ahead is meta battle

and BBs do every meta battle super easily in 2 fights

[tropic tusk]

pulling 1 is more then enough unless u whale

whale as in pull till mlb

[bold cove]

Except if that ur not mlb and you have spare coins and cubes

[nimble knoll]

Or if you get extremely lucky and get more than 1 in a ten pull

[tropic tusk]

yea tahts another story

[tropic tusk]

no alwayws just pull 1 and leave

[nimble knoll]

Has anyone gotten 10 UR's in a pull?

[tropic tusk]

unless u trying to get the other units in the pool then yea

[crimson glacier]

yeah i get that all the time

[bold cove]

I dont think so, 1 times i had 3 in 10 ten pulls

Maybe there a RNG god favorite son

[tropic tusk]

my best rng is no UR till pity

i mean i can only obatin the UR ship with pity exchance

[nimble knoll]

My best Rng is getting a UR Back To Back, Doing 1 Pulls

[mild sail]

I always do 3 pulls daily during a event

[nimble knoll]

Should I Farm more coins? Cuz I can only do 50 pulls with the amount I have.

[dusty terrace]

I should do it but I'm not patient enough

I only go back to 3 pulls daily after an elite or ssr keeps eluding me despite spending hundred of cubes already

[tropic tusk]

there will most likely to have new event to farm also just letting u know

[nimble knoll]

But would it be better for coins than like w11 or w12?

[crimson glacier]

just w12 every day

[keen sable]

No but you need to farm event. Don't do another blucher

[tropic tusk]

w12 is like for every

w12 is love w12 is life

[nimble knoll]

-# I Only farmed the event for the daily Multipliers and when it occasionally drops an SR Ship-

[dire burrow]

for research, should i focus on fs pr5 ships first, or pr6 or 7
and should i focus on unlocking all pr6 first or 7

[lofty zodiac]

If you have ply dev30 you can switch to pr7 and still coin the fs ship on pr5

[wary skiff]

Is the UR event Thurs or fri?

[crimson glacier]

thu

[dire burrow]

between pr6 and 7, which should i focus on unlocking first

[lofty zodiac]

Unlock order don't matter it's the print to dev30 nakh or napoli

[dire burrow]

ah ok ig they're more valuable than pr6 ships?

[crimson glacier]

nakhimov probably has pretty low value unless you have good russian ships

[lofty zodiac]

But there is also the pr7 gear

[crimson glacier]

was there anything good

[boreal wagon]

la9 do be pretty good

[crimson glacier]

but its not important

[boreal wagon]

you asked for good tho

[crimson glacier]

and its only good rarely

its more common for la9 to be bad than good

[lofty zodiac]

OP ask pr6 vs pr7

[dusty terrace]

kearsarge shimanto hindenburg > napoli and nakhimov imo

[crimson glacier]

kear and hinden arent important at all

[lofty zodiac]

So OP can uninstal the game AL is not important

[tame jungle]

what

[crimson glacier]

smartest alo member

[tame jungle]

thanks!

[tropic tusk]

[storm heron]

what's going on

[tame jungle]

text chat pvp

[tropic tusk]

all i saw was kear n hinden not important hence time to uninstall game

[crimson glacier]

maybe some day you will learn to take your waifu stuff to general instead

[tropic tusk]

is prototype VIT-2(mode change) and prototype F8F(float) good?

[crimson glacier]

vit-2 is good

[mellow cape]

Tbh I think nakhimov = Shimato > the rest lmao

Just in usage for w15

[crimson glacier]

and was that f8f just for halford

[tropic tusk]

y is it just for halford?

[tame jungle]

i think it's usable by the seaplane tenders too

but seaplane ships lol

[crimson glacier]

not that many ships can use seaplanes

and most who can are just shit

[tame jungle]

yeah it's turbo cope

[sharp socket]

kear is eh hinden is ok but not worth going for unless waifu

basically only shimanto is useful in pr6

[pine inlet]

what pasta ships are good if I want to put them in a single fleet? I have all the current gold and rainbow ones except Impero

[tight yarrow]

Can you coin ship in pr6?

[wary skiff]

I thought kearsarge was good

[wary skiff]

no

found that out with felix earlier

[woven star]

Napoli, LeoD and rest... maybe VV

[tight yarrow]

Aquila

[glossy granite]

When do we get the info about stats and skills for Raffaelo man i am so impatient 😭

[woven star]

27 feb

[tame jungle]

when CN/JP server is up

so same as always

[pine inlet]

also like, is Napoli a tank or what? should I position her at front or is she somewhat like Mainz pre fate sim?

[versed forum]

should i craft 2nd tenrai or wyvern and 1st 100mm kai ?

[tight yarrow]

Tenrai and wyvern dont share mats right? Atleast the UR one

[tame jungle]

electronics

tenrai takes ord, wyvern takes plane

[tight yarrow]

Oh right, forgot abt those

[thick plume]

How do I get the materials needed to craft gears in gear lab?
Like do I have to do higher corrosion areas in OpSi?

[tame jungle]

not necessarily higher corrosion but yes play opsi

[thick plume]

Also how do I get more gold steam catapults? I only have 3 or 4

[tame jungle]

shop has a lot of materials too but you gotta play the mode

[tame jungle]

open gold tech box and pray

[dusty terrace]

yes shes anchorage on steroids

[pine inlet]

okay

[tame jungle]

keep in mind that napoli is heavy armor so she takes more damage from torps and planes

[versed forum]

gear lab priority is plane right 2nd bb gun?

[tight yarrow]

Depend on what you have and wanna build ngl

[tame jungle]

wyvern huge upgrade so i'd say get 2 of those first

[versed forum]

Soon I will have 3 ur bb but still don't have good bb gun except musahi pr research

[tame jungle]

it's fine, best splashable AP gun is champagne gun and it's readily available

and for HE the purple mk6 works just fine

[woven star]

hm, Attilio Regolo have some interesting skills, some kind of low rate z52... have heal from torp, 2 dd gun with good gun eff., some barrages with low dmg

[polar lion]

What's the AA gun combo looks liek if Laffii, z52, Eld frontline?

[wind hazel]

76mm everything and you can't go wrong

otherwise depend on what you have

[polar lion]

Too poorge to craft moar

[woven star]

I think he ask about AA gun...or

[wind hazel]

newest UR AA is 76mm...

what do you want to do with that vanguard?

[polar lion]

Optimal AA dps and circle

[wind hazel]

sextuple roomba roomba maybe

[polar lion]

Eld equip Roomba too? Thot since she has the weaker AA of the 3 she would equip something liek staag

[wind hazel]

staag doesn't benefit vanguard that much other than cases where you want the hit stat like on unzen or something

[whole crypt]

she doesn't need the hit and you're just gimping your AA damage

Eldridge's AA isn't even bad enough to warrant attempting accelerators

[polar lion]

Hmm okay2

[storm heron]

roomba eld looks ok tbh

[whole crypt]

it is

[storm heron]

high rld dd and like prolly the weakest out of 3

[whole crypt]

she still has 2x125% mounts

[carmine heath]

Need another ship for ijn cdc which one should i use

[storm heron]

shoukaku chitose zuikaku lower prio, akashi amagichan not useful at all, the rest is high prio tech

[wind hazel]

hyuuga

[whole crypt]

the point is you don't try to fit an accelerator on your weakest AA ship if it's not a shit AA dump like some of them old IJN DDs, and if all you had were AA dumps accelerators are still useless

[polar lion]

Oh yea, where can I see the stats for z52 ghost AA?

[woven star]

Hiryuu for pvp troling team. when this ships denied to die for billion sec

[storm heron]

what

[whole crypt]

Hiryuu is a joke by modern standards

also PvP defense trolling is stupid

[storm heron]

idk if hiryuu is proven to be so in pvp although I see her getting used, but even then it is not so relevant to this channel

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/670?equipMode=ghost

[whole crypt]

it isn't

[polar lion]

Thanks

[storm heron]

not to mention pvp defense fleet yeah not useful unless you're trying to wall people off from getting merit quickly (being toxic)

[tame jungle]

pvp in general is a joke lol

[whole crypt]

that said raising Hiryuu is not a bad idea,
she's CV hit tech

it's just not really a priority

[woven star]

Imho from that list only some ships for tech points. In general they low tier ships

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

true but they need cdc so ofc we recommend tech

[woven star]

And not sure Shoukaku is high priority. Maybe Zuikaku but skip it too

Oh Yamashiro BB rld tech iirc. Having her in list "to do 120 lvl tech"

[whole crypt]

of that list I'd just take 2nd div plus Hyuuga and call it a day

unless need heal then Shouhou

[worldly pewter]

why are u against rushing haku
i remember i did everything for her 8 months ago to unlock and dev even though it wasn't coinable back then

[polar lion]

Yo wtfish, 204 dmg and 0.45s fire rate?? Isn't this liek too good?

This ghost gun liek better than both UR AA gun

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying Hakuryuu isn't a priority, I'm saying CV hit tech isn't

[storm heron]

wait is the special AA gun counted as a whole or counted as fuze?

[storm heron]

like can I say that it is a built in accelerator

[whole crypt]

part of circle

[polar lion]

Liek I heard people said z52 good AA but didn't expect it was this broken

[whole crypt]

Z52's AA isn't that broken but her having everything in a single package is

[carmine heath]

Realized after 1m xp that saratoga wasnt ijn

[woven star]

imposter between EU

[errant fog]

Soo out of all the new craftables in gear lab, which ones are worth crafting? Tenrai obviously one of them...

[tame jungle]

the AA gun is also good

[polar lion]

And why I haven't saw this site before? It got the fleet tool, barrage infos that I usually hab to go to CN site to read

[tame jungle]

idk

[worldly pewter]

tenrai isn't worth for most players now

[polar lion]

It's so useful

[cerulean musk]

do these have a chance to drop rainbow prints?

[sleek spade]

Yes

[tame jungle]

if these are the abyssals, yes

[sleek spade]

Low chance tho

[worldly pewter]

only the right one
the 2 left ones just have good cat nodes

[cerulean musk]

ah ok

[cerulean musk]

its the ones in the voucher shop

[woven star]

I think buyout them all if can handle this corruptions map. they came back in coins for new season

but 3 days left so check AP before

[worldly pewter]

med is the gigachad dark main in hexa i m sure he can do everything in al

[woven star]

This is how looks my shop

[storm heron]

that's a lot of vouchers

[errant fog]

So I guess the previous aa gun is better on stats?

[errant fog]

How the hell... How many tickets you make each OPSI reset?

[tame jungle]

13k not hard to get

[storm heron]

I doubt so, this one has more alpha and range

and hit

[errant fog]

I see... then imma craft it ig

[cerulean musk]

hell nah... been a while since i did hl

[storm heron]

haha I have less for some reason, props to Voltic tho man actually know what he's doing in OpSi

[tame jungle]

i had 16k in december

[storm heron]

I swear I just don't get it

[tame jungle]

if you just do everything including harby there's no way you don't go positive even when buying out

[worldly pewter]

12k is the standard amount
over that amount is in the high range

[cerulean musk]

so for the new gears its just the aa gun worth crafting?

[tame jungle]

and tenrai if you need it

[woven star]

I have not to much but enough for next season

[worldly pewter]

the asw and maybe the aa fighter too

[storm heron]

like aurora said so too, everyone said so, but I just ended up with net 600-1200 each month where I lock in and farm c1

[worldly pewter]

the aa fighter is still under testing though and looks like its bugged

[storm heron]

I would probably hold on the ASW and aa fighter until I need to use them, but tenrai and UR AA is good

[cerulean musk]

how many tenrais is good?

[worldly pewter]

if u use the 3 ijn then 3

[polar lion]

Wish we can use it for something else useful with the leftover vouchers. Hav almost 200k collecting dust

[cerulean musk]

[polar lion]

Would be nice if they let us exchange for gold plates

[storm heron]

does having more tenrai helps fighting algerie meta?

[worldly pewter]

i think algeria is 0 tenrai territory

[storm heron]

I'm currently using haku amagi ranger, maybe I can equip 6 tenrai

or is that shenanigan like useless

[worldly pewter]

i m just parroting suchi comp soy cat fritz
he says that it is a consistent comp without BZ

[storm heron]

ohyea helena kazagumo and eldridge

[storm heron]

fritz.... I tried soy nakh magi but still 20% left

[worldly pewter]

he didn't share their gear if u are interested u can ask him once he comes online

[boreal wagon]

he did tho its linked in the description of his newest vid

[normal beacon]

@viscid swift is this ok or should i swap places?

[storm heron]

oh! watching now!

[final heart]

how should I use coins to upgrade dev lv of priority ships and can I still upgrade dev lv of a ship if I switch to another?

[polar lion]

10 bps per day for max discount

[final heart]

can I still upgrade roon's dev lv if I switch over to fdg?

I still need to finish fdg exp mission

[storm heron]

cries knowing I will never one shot alg meta his video is with 3 +13 la9, he didn't lie when he said high investment. I'd rather wait for bismarck zwei

[polar lion]

Yes if u hav Roon bps, u can upgrade her Dev lvl whenever u want

[final heart]

ty ty

[normal beacon]

Is there a priority list of all the research ships?

[boreal wagon]

u can also do so with coins if u dont have bps but yes

[tame jungle]

coinup for DR and PR is separate (and preferable to using higher season selector bps)

[storm heron]

gn gph

[polar lion]

U decide based on what u want to do

[normal beacon]

Well I don't rlly know lmao

That's why im asking, which are the most "broken"

[polar lion]

PR4 is a good starting point then

[normal beacon]

I have roon and drake maxed

[polar lion]

Good ship and good gears

[vivid locust]

my way of doing pr ships

who do i like the most XD , then follow with the next after you finished that one

until all done then check skills and see if you cna sue them somewhere in a fleet 😛

[woven star]

Roon-FdG-Anchorage-Haku-AvP... something like that

[storm heron]

we have a research guide on ecgc guide

[normal beacon]

Istg this games hella confusing

Or I'm just that slow

[tame jungle]

you'll get used to it

[normal beacon]

Im lvl 90 tho 😭

[nocturne glade]

almost done researching agir and dont have enough points to start hakuryuu, should I do brest, chkalov or prinze rupprecht first? (I wont be able to use them for a while regardless cause of bps)

[tame jungle]

i'm 135 and sometimes still feel like i don't get it, it doesn't matter

[storm heron]

but if I were a new player now, I would allocate these resources:

• focus research PR7, take good research like Q and D (Nakhimov and Bayard especially)
• construct and do EXP collection of PR4 ships
• reserve my catchup (for protocore) unless I really need the ship
• try to keep 1 PR ship and 1 DR ship to coin daily

if you follow the points above, you should be able to have the same PR ship progress as everybody else

[normal beacon]

Like i have no clue about the research ships, the cats and operation siren, legit motivates me to uninstall 😭

[storm heron]

by any chance have you tried to seek out resources such as /guide

[normal beacon]

Thankss Ill use that

[tame jungle]

all i'm saying is i'm not keeping you here

but there's plenty of resources to learn about the mechanics if you care to seek them out

[normal beacon]

No clue what that is

[polar lion]

Does flagship cover reduce burn dmg?

[storm heron]

#bot-spam

[normal beacon]

Never felt so lost in a gacha im ngl

[undone plover]

tbh it is pretty simple once u get the hang of it

[vivid locust]

the moment you get a grasp on everything it's becoming easy . it's jsut the start that's overwhelming

[undone plover]

and u should prioritize goals
atm priority is saving cubes for the upcoming event
and push campaign with 1 "decent" fleet

[normal beacon]

Decent enough?

[undone plover]

i thought u are very new

[normal beacon]

Not really..

[undone plover]

for campaign u should have a BB in middle most of the time
so musashi should be in middle for 2nd fleet

anyway u seem to be confused a bit about shipyard
if u want make a thread and post your shipyard screenshots
we can help determine what needs to be done

[normal beacon]

Yesterday i did and they built me these two fleet

Wait

Here

[undone plover]

well these 2 fleets are overall decent

I was going to help with shipyard cuz u asked about that

[storm heron]

oh I was too busy helping cornhub I didn't even rmb

[normal beacon]

Fybre already gave me overall idea what to do

But again, I wanna play it but its just confusing asf that's why i quit long time ago lol

So I'm in the middle

[honest stirrup]

Well the thing is, there's so many ways to get stronger you can't do all of them at once

Even level 120+ commanders can be clueless about some aspects of the game, but it's totally fine. Either they miss out, or eventually learn

[echo nexus]

trying to get some ships from lvl 100+ to 120/125, what stages would be the best for this?

[nimble knoll]

If you do Akashi's Quest, Will you get her?

[vivid locust]

ooooofff that's a long time ago . i think so yeah

[pearl hare]

What should I use for my third slot? Gonna be farming for pr7 ship

[nimble knoll]

[vivid locust]

you need a russian fleet ? if so those are all your shipgirls for russians ?

[pearl hare]

Just Russian main fleet

[polar lion]

W12

[vivid locust]

using this (might not be the best out there xD but it works )

edit : if you only want main fleet jsut look at those they works pretty well together tbh

[echo nexus]

any specific one, or will 12-4 be fine?

[pearl hare]

Unfortunately I don't have beloruss on this account

[polar lion]

Yep go 12-4 good xp, coins gain, chips income and can retire choukai dupes for merit pts

[echo nexus]

awesomee, tysm

[nimble knoll]

You can use Italian/Sardegna ships too

[pearl hare]

All I have for main fleet

[nimble knoll]

Damn, You don't have a lot huh-
(Not like I can talk)

[pearl hare]

I think I have more on my older account lol, plus I took a 1 year hiatus, just came back a few days ago

[vivid locust]

would say impero then good carrier (have a way of healing your main fleet aswell)

edit so i would say soyuz rossiya and impero then for main fleet

edit 2 : place rossiya as your flagship her barrage fires of her middle point while soyuz actually aims at enemies XD

[pearl hare]

This one's my older account

[nimble knoll]

Volga Can Heal, If They need it, Though she needs lvls

[nimble knoll]

Lb littorio using the dupe

[vivid locust]

true , i'm more a fan of impero though XD might be baised answer thb

[nimble knoll]

Unless the vanguard is good, they don't really need healing, though it's going to be fighting mobs (and maybe boss?), they might need Uni Or A Good Healer for the Main fleet to not die

[frank pulsar]

you dont need a russian vanguard for this, it only specifies main fleet

[vivid locust]

that's why i put the edit , if you only need main fleet look at that 😛

[frank pulsar]

and if you need a healer for farming w12 prob gear better cuz its not necessary even with the worst possible fleet

[frank pulsar]

oh mb, i didnt read

[slate shadow]

Do we know if there is going to be a second batch of outfits for the sardegna event, or is it only the 6 already shown?

[vivid locust]

as far as we know only those 6 ( we jsut had new year and christmass so i doubt more will come this event)

[slate shadow]

Thank you

[normal beacon]

I got so much purple bullins what should I do with them

[vivid locust]

use them to upgrade shipgirls ?

[unborn saffron]

Eat them or complete fleet technology

[normal beacon]

I don't use purple ships tho

[vivid locust]

upgrading them give you fleet points (and i think at max lb you other ships gets buffs aswell)

so let's say you upgrade a purple dd then all your dd's might get torp + 1 as bonus stat if they are also max lbed

might need to be lvl 100 before others get the extra buffs though can't remember that correctly

Edit: small upgrade's but with enough ships getting lbed those small buffs might actually become decent

[worldly pewter]

then u are doing something wrong in the game

[vivid locust]

@normal beacon

example purple dd

at lvl 120 she gives destroyers all een extra buff

Edit: and those small buff stacks so it's actually good to lvl up purple ships and lb them aswell

but take it slow no eed to burn yourself out XD

[hallow mountain]

you know genuine question, why does Fritz ALWAYS gets the MVP? Is it the small red rocket things?

asking in case I wanna farm for KMS research ships again

[forest palm]

One stop posting memes, and gifs channel rules. Two just make Fritz Flag

[jaunty vault]

meme in my gph

[atomic abyss]

the meme wasnt necessary, but basically it can be summarised as UR CV = high DPS

[hallow mountain]

ah ok

[gleaming saddle]

Is 12-4 better for farming exp than OpSi?

[weary gust]

Does using a firehose fill up a pool faster than one of those little plastic squirt guns?

[ivory pawn]

Easily, but they also use different resources so just do both.

[gleaming saddle]

I'm sorry, ok g. I haven't done opsi in a hot minute

[gleaming saddle]

thank you for the reminder. I'll just pretend AP doesn't exist

[keen sable]

If anything doing ops is more important than 12

[gleaming saddle]

Yeah, I am just trying to farm for FDG. I wish UNI would stop getting MVP lol

[keen sable]

Uni doesn't give fdg xp

[gleaming saddle]

that is true, but is it better to live to fight more than dying quickly?

[tame jungle]

you should realistically be able to do 12-4 or at least 12-1 without a healer, provided you got some good gear

[gleaming saddle]

hmmm I see. I shall try subbing out uni for brun then perhaps

[white agate]

question for the more experienced ones, when doing 12-1 do you do everyone with the mob fleet by using crossfleets or do you do mob fleet to level and boss fleet to level?

[turbid marsh]

i dont think too much about boss fleet, i use crossfleet for boss XD

[normal beacon]

Tell me about it lol

[turbid marsh]

technically nothing wrong tbh, a little bit oil restricted here and there, and coin too.

[worldly pewter]

not using elite ships in this current meta is kinda questionable as there are insanely cracked ones like indep uni ddg yat sen sara
and some good tech like shouhou and its reverse sou and hiryuu

[tropic tusk]

poor uni

[turbid marsh]

unless he count retro as not elite ships XD

[worldly pewter]

retro is also better since it consumes more purple bulins which was his main concern

[tropic tusk]

retro also adds collection if thats wht ur after

[tall tapir]

hello, how can i found "switch mecanism" in operation siren ? enter again and again on the same maps ? switch mecanism is something whick spawn ?

[wary hawk]

It only has a chance of appearing the first time you explore an area monthly

[tall tapir]

thx, do u have a list of the objectives which are only the first time monthly ?

like, "repel promoted pawn fleet ambusheds" --> 1st time or not ?

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Operation_Siren_Zones#Objectives

[tall tapir]

thx bro

[nimble knoll]

Do we know the next ship after Implac? Would it be another Rerun?

[tropic tusk]

its always new UR old UR new UR ....

[nimble knoll]

So After Implac Another New UR Eh? Do we know the Next Rerun? (After Implac Ofc)

[tropic tusk]

its either zwei or unzen?

[honest stirrup]

Probably Zwei, right? She's older

[tropic tusk]

isnt unzen older?

[honest stirrup]

Let me check

[eager mulch]

Zwei is older

[wary hawk]

Zwei is older

[honest stirrup]

Yeah that's what I thought. I came back around the time Zwei was out so I missed her and got Unzen later

[tropic tusk]

oh then zwei first then

[nimble knoll]

So then after Zwei Rerun, and another new UR It's Unzen?

[tropic tusk]

imp > new > zwei > new > unzen > new

[boreal wagon]

*with non UR stuff in between

[wary hawk]

Frostfall next!! woo!!!

[boreal wagon]

assuming they dont give those type of events the raid treatment

[wary hawk]

😔

[nimble knoll]

Looks like I can get a lot this year.. ;3

[tropic tusk]

u can get alot every year

[whole crypt]

where can I find ch15 enemy stats again

[whole crypt]

well simply put if the pace keeps up it's 4 new and 4 rerun URs every year

[nimble knoll]

I mean for my first year, It's gonna be a lot, For Me.

[keen sable]

Nagami.moe?

[tropic tusk]

It was like that for me also

[whole crypt]

last I tried using nagami all the stats came up NaN

[boreal wagon]

they still do
(cc @plain saffron)

[nimble knoll]

Abyssal is Just Bosses right? (OpSi)

[whole crypt]

any place else I can find stats

[boreal wagon]

do u need a specific node or the bosses

[tame jungle]

maybe lars' site?

[whole crypt]

I want to know hard Taihou stats and Zuihou mostly

[boreal wagon]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses?term=15-
has all bosses

[whole crypt]

noice thanks

[honest stirrup]

Where do you guys even find so many tools for AL?

[jaunty vault]

Lars has a website?

[worldly pewter]

abyssals are bosses that u can't leave its areas

[boreal wagon]

i made it thats how

[tame jungle]

by listening to a beautiful attractive man that's among us right now

[nimble knoll]

Do you think this can do an Abyssal?

[honest stirrup]

Oh. That would explain the "mrlar"

[boreal wagon]

you knew this already u just forgot

[jaunty vault]

truth be told, i did not even forget

[worldly pewter]

c4 yes
but above that it very unlikely

[jaunty vault]

Lars be like, "i made this shit"

[boreal wagon]

tbf i probably chill my own things the least

[jaunty vault]

shill*

[nimble knoll]

Oof, I got a C5..

[white agate]

i don't think that is gonna 1 shoot a 4 abissal node, maybe with lvl120 ss

[honest stirrup]

Is it me or is this the non-retro helena?

[nimble knoll]

I don't have her retrofitted-

[worldly pewter]

c4 is lvl 114 i think it should be doable

[honest stirrup]

She's level 115 what are you waiting for

[nimble knoll]

Cuz I focused on Sandy Retro

[honest stirrup]

ehh ok that's understandable

[plain saffron]

i'm too lazy to fix it since i'm reworking it

[worldly pewter]

then use sandy retro

[plain saffron]

which page specifically

[boreal wagon]

all of the nodes

[nimble knoll]

And people say because it's a low prio retro

[plain saffron]

da fuck

[whole crypt]

literally all enemy stats just say NaN

[white agate]

yep, as long as airstrikes are helena synced and the boss is of the right armor

[worldly pewter]

reset gaming

[nimble knoll]

My Helena and Sandy are the same lvl anyways so Ima try

[patent pivot]

@boreal wagon this https://github.com/MrLar/AzurLaneData/blob/main/data/barrages.json is based on weapon IDs right

[worldly pewter]

yeah use sandy instead of laffey

[boreal wagon]

skill ids

[patent pivot]

k thx

[plain saffron]

need to find alternative way to get money while being unemployed

[nimble knoll]

A lvl 115 Sandy is better than a lvl 120 Laffey?

[honest stirrup]

Prob, assuming Sandy has the aug and full retro

[turbid marsh]

retro + ue a lot

[sharp echo]

sorry i forgot, what world is recommended for exp farm and credit farm?

[honest stirrup]

12-4

[white agate]

12-4

[nimble knoll]

She does have both, though her 2nd skill is only lvl 5

[keen sable]

Current event(none) or 12+

[nimble knoll]

And should I Retro Helena?

[turbid marsh]

sandy with those two is great dps + number 1 aa (team) with good asw.

[nimble knoll]

Can't get her to modernization.. I need two More gold bps

[white agate]

try to see if you got some useful mission,some give specific blueprints

[nimble knoll]

Nothin, And I used all my Hard mode tries doing 11-2 hm cuz that's the highest thingy I can do to get bps for CL (and holy, Retrofitting Helena took 20k-)

Is it worth it, Or Not yet

[keen sable]

We don't memorize your dock. You can make your own decision

[worldly pewter]

the issue is being hesitant in these basic decisions

[nimble knoll]

Skyraider is only bad against heavy armor right?

[plain saffron]

it fixed now

[worldly pewter]

it is the best bossing dive bomber

[honest stirrup]

UR planes are never really "bad" against anything, Skyraiders are just not as optimised against heavy
But that's the case for most bombs anyways

[nimble knoll]

Should I send a pic of the boss I'm facing and what my ships are using in OpSi?

[tame jungle]

no

skyraider's probably slightly worse at heavy than purple helldiver when it comes to bossing
if you turn off fleet lock go into the boss you can see their armor type

[nimble knoll]

Yeah, The boss I'm facing has Medium Armor

[honest stirrup]

Yeah I mixed up Skyraider with another plane

[honest stirrup]

Just use this. It's not perfect since there's sometimes details that makes the showcased DPS different than what it really is but is still better than having to ask everytime
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Dive_Bombers#tabber-tabpanel-Max_Stats-0

[tame jungle]

there's a better resource than that one that takes spread into account

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread#Results

dps also a questionable metric for when it comes to backline damage output

[nimble knoll]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1335060445454794752
Is this good for the boss I'm facing?

[keen sable]

Not really

[elfin hollow]

okay, what's wrong with this one? afaik those requirements are just to be able to queue right?

[tame jungle]

and completion

[elfin hollow]

oh okay then, thank you

[keen sable]

Why would you want to do 3 in the first place

[elfin hollow]

I was sure those requiremends are only for queueing

[keen sable]

4H and B. This is what reset is for

[worldly pewter]

this is one of the must avoid type of researches
commissions campaign chapter tech boxes and nothing requirements are the worst and u only take them in very specific situations like
being new to the game

[plain saffron]

it's the reqs to finish the research, and for queueing you need to finish it in advance

[keen sable]

You mean I can't cheat it by deleting all my boxes after queuing?

[lyric garnet]

hello guys, i want ask to you.
i want listen from your perspective. during battle with opponent, how to execution a weakness opponent from armor type? do you prefer just use type ship to get advantage from opponent ship / use specific weapon type no matter how use your type ship?

[hollow gust]

The best ships in the game are going to stomp any armor type regardless at what the specialize at , gearing is far more important

[rose whale]

this is the fleet I use to clear 15-4. Is there any other ship that can replace laff2?

[hollow gust]

You are more likely to replace Guam then Laffey , that's more then good enough anyway

[keen sable]

I like every advantage I can get and massive overkill works for me.

[keen sable]

Z52, sandy probably works also

[silk helm]

is using oil for opsi good?

[elfin hollow]

so what would be best type of research just for daily missions?

[silk helm]

like how bad is spending oil for opsi. Id rather have UR gear prints than gold

[rose whale]

z52 is also that tanky?

currently my laffey 2 is holding anti sub gears

[silk helm]

unique what does 🫵🏻 mean

[ivory pawn]

Q, D, and G should form the bulk of your research.

[keen sable]

Why do you need that tanky for an off tank?

[keen sable]

You decide

[rose whale]

idk, I just want to make sure 😅

[worldly pewter]

if u want to have the best gameplay for opsi u will burnout if u don't have enough mental stamina
basically keep doing c1 for the entire month and get akashi ap boxes
in the last week start doing c3

[eternal basalt]

You're unlikely to get UR gear prints randomly in OPS... infact, it can only drop from red zones and meowfficers

[silk helm]

i farmed 80 ap boxes this month doing c1 only

[dreamy blade]

it can drop from cat nodes

[keen sable]

Not really sure what the point of your question is anyway. You say it works so you want to try to level a ship? I leveled L1 laffey in 15-4 lethal

[silk helm]

i think c1 is better for leveling, the only problem is you dont get gold, but im capped anyways

[rose whale]

I also use laffey in hard mode so she lose a bit more morale. It kinda irks me

[silk helm]

who are the hardcore c1 farmers here? need to ask them a few questions

[worldly pewter]

man if u do c1 and still ask about using oil then wtf are u doing at this point

[rose whale]

I know it's silly but I want to try to change it

[lyric garnet]

what aspect of important to determine best ship in the game?

[dreamy blade]

anyway a new event and opsi reset are both happening soon so i would probably just...wait

[worldly pewter]

is this english ?

[keen sable]

Z52 and sandy are good ships for 15.

[sharp socket]

none

too many things that affect how a ship is rated

[rose whale]

Thanks. Sandy is busy in fleet 2 so z52 it is 😄

[sharp socket]

so you have to be more specific

[worldly pewter]

basically there are many roles and mechanics

[turbid marsh]

ah yes, z52.

[silk helm]

whens implac rerun

[keen sable]

March

[silk helm]

thanks

[eternal basalt]

After new event (but not RIGHT after)

[lyric garnet]

i usually decide to the best ship in the game is stat of the ship (FP, AA, TRP, AVI, etc) at lv. 1/120 & to appeal with another ship. also, the skill with overpower as generic is important.
is that right? or do you have another perspective?

[keen sable]

It's not right

Shima has highest torp. Unzen is just better

Plenty of other counter examples for every single stat probably

[sharp socket]

i use ships that are good in what they do and it works

to find out what ships are good, ask people in here or use various docs that people have made

ectl is a good starting point, then when you realise it kind of sucks then you look at samvaluations or regal

at some point you may even feel those arent very good either and make your own evaluations on some stuff and see if it is actually better than what other people have come up with

[lyric garnet]

yeah, at least i hope i can thinking/research own even another people to do it.
but actually, this game to long of complexity.
thank your for your share

[turbid marsh]

think there is also a spreadsheet too, thats quite helpful XD

[patent pivot]

most of the hardcore nerds have scattered so its hard to follow what they do to learn from

this place works up until a point where everyone gets lazy and says it works so why bother trying to improve

[hollow gust]

Not point when ships are so busted you can kill anything with sub optimal gear

[patent pivot]

thanks for proving my point 👍

[lofty zodiac]

New player don't have those "so busted" ship

[keen sable]

The obvious way would be to calculate eHP and tDPS for every ship. That way you don't need exhausting empirical tests.

[hollow gust]

New players aren't fighting endgame content

And yes you do

Unicorn Helena Independence Enterprise etc etc etc, unicorn can carry trash through the first 10 stages herself

[turbid marsh]

upon reaching 9, can even start sandy kai + ue and that carrys 12 13 and 11 too if have nelson/hood

[mellow cape]

Unironically Unicorn is a staple pretty much in every corner of this game as a premium healer

She can carry you in 12-4 alone just by bringing any lvl 100 ship and slapping on hp/eva hear on those said ships with the minimal gear

[thick plume]

How good is Implacable? I have 200 cubes saved up, so should I go all in on the new banner and get as many copies (realistically, I'd get 2, if lucky then 3) of the new UR BB or should I get 1 copy of it and save the rest of the cubes for Implacable?

[shell willow]

with 200 cubes dont think about multiple copies lmao

[soft raft]

idk how you're so sure of your chances when you have half of the cubes needed to get pity

But safe to say go for both of them, you'll get build tickets when Implacable reruns as well

[thick plume]

Pity is at 200 pulls or 200 cubes?

[soft raft]

200 pulls aka 400 cubes

[thick plume]

Oof yea then only 1 if I'm lucky

[shell willow]

u will get enough cubes till the end of event for pity if you play, but dont go for more than one unless you are very close to pity (lets say 190 pulls) and can guarantee another one

[undone plover]

there is another 100+ cubes until event finishes
u have a good chance but yeah 1 copy is enough

[forest palm]

you never pull for copies btw

[worldly pewter]

in this situation u just hope u lucksack both
the new one in few attempts and implac with the free tickets

[worldly pewter]

i pull for copies

[forest palm]

tell that to someone with less than 400 cubes

[turbid marsh]

dock space doesn't allow me to pull copies XD

[worldly pewter]

i wished gl to the someone who has under 400 cubes and i replied to u that never pull for copies is wrong because someone else is doing it and it is fine

[turbid marsh]

thinking to expand to 1500 or 2000 though to at least get the rainbows to have 0lb 1lb 2lb XD

[keen sable]

never pull dupes...

[shut night]

Guys I’m new and I am using the units recommended by the guide (Helena, laffey,Portland, pennsylvania,unicorn. Which units should I aim to replace first?

[undone plover]

save cubes for event
who is your 6th ship?
replace that one ideally depending on who she is
then next aim to replace penny with a good BB

[shut night]

And also should I use indianapolis

[keen sable]

none?

[tame jungle]

indy is bad

[shut night]

Long Island :c

[turbid marsh]

swap longisland first

[worldly pewter]

did u start a new account ?

[undone plover]

who is in your medal shop?

[shut night]

I’m level 15

[shut night]

Yep I got tired of my old mistakes

[tame jungle]

bruh

[turbid marsh]

im pretty sure nelson is in map 1

[eager mulch]

what about nubian

[turbid marsh]

wait thats repulse

[worldly pewter]

then u want to try and push campaign as much as u can for now
keep that fleet as that

[worldly pewter]

u can use long island

[eager mulch]

hood is good

[turbid marsh]

hood

[shut night]

I’m having trouble , it may be cuz I don’t have equipment

[worldly pewter]

yeah u will struggle for gear that is pretty common

[turbid marsh]

i guess eugen for now?

[tame jungle]

no

[stark quiver]

Why

[shut night]

Kent eugen free

[stark quiver]

There’s absolutely no need to get eugen

[worldly pewter]

yeah save the medals for the SR bulins

[tame jungle]

not worth the medals + new accounts should already get eugen from the login bonus (citation needed)

[stark quiver]

When Portland is cheaper for around the same performance

[shell willow]

new players get her anyway, but just not getting anyone is better

[turbid marsh]

wait thats medal? then no

[shut night]

So hood? Is nagato good

[stark quiver]

Hood

[tame jungle]

there's a reason we said hood and not nagato

[turbid marsh]

i thought that was like a ticket or something oopsies

[worldly pewter]

nagato is a better but more expensive port

[undone plover]

1- keep your fleet as is for now
2- limit break your ships
3- some of the starter missions give decent gear, use em when u get em
4- start unicorn retrofit (try and farm chapter 3-4 or 4-4 for hard mode to get the retrofit BP for her
5- try and get hood when u have enough medals
6- save cubes and pull next event

[shut night]

I ain’t keeping long island

[keen sable]

the correct plan is to swap your existing levelled good ships into a 2nd fleet when you have existing levelled good ships.

[undone plover]

saratoga can replace long island if u drop her from map

otherwise long island is fine for now no need to replace her

[shut night]

Aaaah I see

[keen sable]

you don't "replace" anything because it's all leveled and good.

[stark quiver]

Then why make a new acc and start over
If you’re gonna make the same mistakes

[shut night]

Ima buy a elite ship, I rlly wanna get rid of long island

[stark quiver]

Why

[tame jungle]

bro.

[keen sable]

hood penny is ok but whether you can afford hood yet...

[shut night]

Is she not good?( Long Island)

[worldly pewter]

hood penny but u need to lucksack an mk6 from a box

[keen sable]

where would you get a guaranteed elite ship from?

did you luck sack helena or unicorn?

[shut night]

New loads out, I’m not spending any gotcha, I’m buying it from guild medal

[eager mulch]

spend money get saratoga

[keen sable]

commander level pack...and yet not

[turbid marsh]

guild shop be like XD

[keen sable]

wouldn't be CL15 if they bought the correct thing

[shut night]

What cl15? Who’s that

[eager mulch]

commander level

[keen sable]

commander level 15

[eager mulch]

this is bait im leaving

[undone plover]

this is usually the best fleet u can do early on
there is nothing wrong with this fleet
start limit breaking stuff and u will be fine
focus resources into unicorn and starter DD/portland imo
u will soon have enough medals for hood and u can replace long island with hood (put hood in flag position when u get her)

[stark quiver]

She’s good for you

[keen sable]

but if you bought uni and helena you have no attempts left...

[shut night]

Ye sure but I swear that Long Island wasn’t in in the instructions of the guide,

[shut night]

Dammit

[keen sable]

she's not but there's nothing you can do about it

[shut night]

:c

[tame jungle]

i think 3rd slot backline has always been filler

[shut night]

Alr I shall continue the grind

[undone plover]

read this line

[tame jungle]

i read it!

[shut night]

NOOOO I DONT WANT LONG ISLANDNDDDDDDDDD ITS HORRIBLEEE

[keen sable]

as if day 1 players have even a remote chance at enterprise

[undone plover]

u can use ranger if u have her

[stark quiver]

According to me
Long Island is good
And idk the guide said you will get enty off the bat
So Long Island it is

[shut night]

Repulse?

[undone plover]

long island better

[tame jungle]

just keep long island bruh

[shell willow]

long island has rld tech so shes not even that bad to raise idk what you are complaining for

[shut night]

I can’t beat chapter 2-3 :c

[keen sable]

farm

[stark quiver]

Yk what
Just throw her out then if you hate her so much
And the sack your progress

[keen sable]

gear properly

[shut night]

Nah I’ll keep her

[undone plover]

repeat highest chapter u can clear until they get more level and they will steamroll

[eager mulch]

hardstuck 2-3 😔

[shut night]

I can’t farm gear

[keen sable]

didn't say farm gear

[tame jungle]

gph takeover

[keen sable]

tbtsk on helena. 127 on laffey. go.

[shut night]

Ik then how am I gonna get it

[shut night]

Pls use newbie friendly language

Oh also I pulled a leg triple 155mm main gun mount is it good

[keen sable]

look at helena. put gear on her. look at laffey. put gear on her.

[hollow gust]

It's literally the name of the guns

[shut night]

I got no gear

[keen sable]

maybe laffey first

[worldly pewter]

blue and grey gear is enough
level and mlb the ships

[shut night]

NO GEAAAR

[worldly pewter]

keep farming and eventually grey ships will drop with gear

[keen sable]

eliminate funny symbols like this one

[stark quiver]

new berke?

[undone plover]

be nice guys

[eager mulch]

if i want to be nice ill go to ectl 🥰

[tame jungle]

also no one is forcing you to be in here to help (hopefully)

[worldly pewter]

unless someone no lifing c1 and still asks about whether or not to spend oil in opsi

for ur gear

[tame jungle]

what

[worldly pewter]

yeah someone earlier asked about using oil in opsi
i gave him the nolife method instead
it turns out that he is doing it already

[eager mulch]

realistically it’s use the one team they have right now, open boxes for gear, and push campaign OR they could save the trouble and go back to the old account

[undone plover]

i do c1 and I still used oil in opsi cuz I lucksacked an abyssal and mismanaged my AP

[eager mulch]

anyways i have to go get ready for my cp class now

[worldly pewter]

that is a specific special situation that anyone would spend oil for it

we are still in the 25th so there is more time for ap regen

i mean even if that situation happened today

[stark quiver]

25th already?
i still have all my strongholds + hiddens to clear

[undone plover]

yeah I was just being cheeky

[stark quiver]

and only like 2k in ap boxes, i might use them all

anyways, this hotspot is killing me, ima go back to school wifi baibai

[forest palm]

end of the month clean up gang

[desert tapir]

Does Bayard want a specific main gun?

[undone plover]

no but as far as CL guns go 1 is clearly superior
ply gun

[forest palm]

don't think so, her whole gimick is low hp = more damage

[worldly pewter]

she is the same as michita ?

[forest palm]

not as frail, but ya

[worldly pewter]

[desert tapir]

Which one is Plygun again?

[tame jungle]

quadruple 152 (UR)

looks like this

[desert tapir]

On an unrelated note What does Rumey want in her auxiliary slot?

[worldly pewter]

double cata

[forest palm]

AA Gun for Boss, CL Gun for mob

doesn't matter what you're running on the Support Fleet in 15 though

[desert tapir]

Not at 15 yet, took a twoish month break from game, spamming 12-1 to get Rumey and other up to level

Do I want the batle tracto max on Bayard for an auxiliary? If her health, owers to deal more damage I'm not sure a tool box is right

[sweet delta]

Use however much defensive aux is needed to make her survive or nearly survive consistently enough the content you're playing

[light trail]

what's the +13 priority for the new UR AA gun? is it higher than the IL one?

[worldly pewter]

basically now u don't use the french one on anyone else but brest i think
not sure on this

[atomic abyss]

yes, it's better than all existing AA

[light trail]

okok

what's the reason for this to be green? what situations would warrant it to be +13'd? higher campaign worlds?

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

+13 gear isnt necessary for campaign to begin with

[worldly pewter]

in my personal experience i only needed to +13 it to do 15-4

[keen sable]

It doesn't hurt and almost certainly helps

[atomic abyss]

the thing is that gun plates are shared across all the main gun types

[light trail]

from this roster, what's the highest prio?

[sweet delta]

Where are your gold guns?

[atomic abyss]

so the 457 falls fairly far down the list

consider it's better to look at gear type rather than rarity

[worldly pewter]

also the new gun might be broken too

[atomic abyss]

(the good) gold planes and gold guns will almost always take priority

[sweet delta]

Not a gun, but tenrai would have been nice instead of the second skyraider

[atomic abyss]

i.e, plane mats are gonna be for tenrai and ryuuseis but not a 457, so better to compare within the gear types

rather than just by rarity

[light trail]

im tryna just see for UR right now but here are all my guns

[worldly pewter]

ur doesn't mean bis always

[sweet delta]

Ask again in 2 days then

[light trail]

that's not my assumption, i just want to know my current UR +13 priority

[atomic abyss]

well, if you're using musashi for campaign, +13-ing izumo gun would be a far bigger improvement than a 457 at +13
and much cheaper

[light trail]

asking about UR bc i have a lot of +13 plates

[worldly pewter]

how many main gun plates do u have ?

[sweet delta]

+11 for musashi

[atomic abyss]

well, +11 if its 410 kai

[keen sable]

wait for new ur

[atomic abyss]

missing a lot of gear lab gear...

[worldly pewter]

i thought the daisen gun was a direct upgrade from the izumo

[atomic abyss]

daisen is an (small) upgrade, but he doesnt have a daisen gun there

[sweet delta]

Essentially

[worldly pewter]

imo save them

[atomic abyss]

but ye there is quite a disparity when it comes to gear lab stuff

[light trail]

izumo gun?

[light trail]

done

[light trail]

aye aye

[sweet delta]

This is daisen which you should use over izumo if you have it or are close to getting it

[sweet delta]

But

[light trail]

i can make one. instant craft?

oh. okok I'll wait a few days

ty for the advice

[sweet delta]

+10 is ok, +13 must wait and see for 2 days

[light trail]

I'll save the coins for now

[sweet delta]

Also apparently you have Vanguard and Alsace, so add Raphael and you might just bench Musashi

[light trail]

raph is new UR?

[sweet delta]

Technically raffaello but

[worldly pewter]

raph because we gbf players

[sweet delta]

It's not because im lazy to type out the Italian spelling every time, but because the English Wikipedia page is titled Raphael