gameplay-help

[molten zinc]

I want a refund pls

[boreal wagon]

at least it meets the gear req on brest

[keen sable]

Imagine not using 57 on brest

[inner delta]

you dont need to keep repeating "i need refund"

[frank pulsar]

tbf its not like you need that extra hit or anyt, twin 57 is alrdy sufficient for w15

[eager mulch]

someone give me a tldr on the new equip

[frank pulsar]

new best aa gun, new best asw plane, new best support fleet plane

[molten zinc]

best AA
best ASW plane?
best support fleet fighter?

[eager mulch]

is the aa gun good for amagi-chan?

i see it has 15 hit

[rose cosmos]

Wait, are these things up yet, I can’t find them in the lab

[molten zinc]

Royal Navy gear lab, check Torp/Dive Bomber tab

[rose cosmos]

Only those? What about tenrai?

[river junco]

Tenrai is in gear lab too and new UR AA

[molten zinc]

[tight yarrow]

What the name of the fighter again?

[molten zinc]

Fw109 G-3/R1

[rose cosmos]

Also what is a support fighter btw, the ones that use on chapter 15?

So you want 6 of those

[stone sluice]

Sure it is the best support fighter?

[eager mulch]

so what im hearing is more W15 powercreep

[river junco]

I’m so broke on circuits
Anywhere I can cope-grind them on OpSi outside shop?

[wind hazel]

no, grind more

[hollow gust]

Wait fuck , the new aa gun is op right? I may have crafted 3 without asking

[river junco]

Yeah it’s good, +15 hit

Better staag

[rose cosmos]

Oh nvm, it was because I didn’t update my game

[molten zinc]

just saying, Pancake have 4x 20mm auto cannon, F6F have 4x 12.7mm machine gun and 2x 20mm auto cannon, the new fighter have 6x 20mm auto cannon

[rose cosmos]

The new lab is updated now

[plain saffron]

how do you even play the game unupdated

never restart since maint start?

[wind hazel]

doesn't the game still kick you out and say your game is outdated?

[plain saffron]

yes

[wind hazel]

hacker

[river junco]

Or it would just freeze if it doesn’t kick you out

[worldly pewter]

190

[nimble knoll]

Is VV better than Hood?

[eager mulch]

it’s rainbow how can it not be op

[molten zinc]

Z-flag

[keen sable]

50/50 chance

[ivory pawn]

Something something Musashi gun.

[eager mulch]

50% more hit than staag

stronk

[pearl fossil]

Musashi gun is good

[worldly pewter]

good in very niche situations

this aa gun is good in almost all situations

[pearl fossil]

it is very good

[nimble knoll]

Who's better for healing, Uni retro or Perseus?

[keen sable]

Uni is generally just better

You have aquila...

[rose cosmos]

No, I legitimately didn’t have the new lab for an hour

Until I quitted a bit to play aether gazer and reopened

[nimble knoll]

It was for another person, don't even have Perseus

[mild sail]

The 109 exist in boxes?

[rigid onyx]

uni wins out in longer fights but fights where they're tied or Percy wins (very short fights) the difference doesn't matter functionally as the fight isn't that difficult, so people say uni is better

[rose cosmos]

Also I just copped two of that dd because fuck it why not, my dds guns are piss poor lol

Why are the top dd guns in this game so hard to get

[rigid onyx]

dds can be the cheapest to equip if they're barrage focused

[rose cosmos]

There are like 5 barrages in this game

On top of that folks like harbin wants those dd guns too

[rigid onyx]

a lot of the best dds are barrage focused. Z52, shima, kawa, kita

[rose cosmos]

Yeah, those and scylla are 5 lol

[molten zinc]

Eldridge not even need a gun tbh

[rigid onyx]

if you only care about t0+ ships with non zero damage there's like 8 dd gun focused ships

[rose cosmos]

I’m still using harbin gun on her lol

Research dropping harbin gun prints like crazy

[molten zinc]

PR5 ot gearlab next year so you can craft ton of them if you want

[rose cosmos]

Wait, tenrai is technically haku’s planes rite?

[mild sail]

Opened somewhere around 100 boxes
No purple 109

[sharp socket]

is tenrai better than TB for flex slot

[shell willow]

for what?

[molten zinc]

wait so DE and NP gearlab unlock next year too!?

[warm flax]

Yes

[soft raft]

for what ship and what context?

[mild sail]

I swear that this plane can be get from boxes why I getting none

[soft raft]

go to #al-general to complain about RNG

[mild sail]

Sure

[rose cosmos]

Btw, dumb question but if I specifically want to build Ply, but doing research a lot of the time it have brest researches along with the 1.5h projects, should I just choose brest instead of the 1.5h ones?

Say the brest projects are either the medium or the small ones

[soft raft]

Just take what you can get tbh

[keen sable]

Scylla is cheapest royal maid. All blue

[soft raft]

coin the PR5s to FS5 as well to get their face projects out of the research pool

[blissful hamlet]

Which is better for BB, +5% fp or +15 hit?

[ruby grotto]

how do you get Trento Meta? It's not listed on the wikipage

[eternal basalt]

APRIL

[rose cosmos]

I get that but my priority is ply, but brest researches are supposedly great projects too

[soft raft]

cruise pass
You'll have to wait for her to hit the META Shop now tho

[ruby grotto]

oh ok thanks

[forest palm]

new UR AA seems like an upgraded Sextuple jamed together with a STAAG

[eternal basalt]

META shop in April

[warm flax]

Considering I have all URs except Bis2 and Implacable, what are the possible changes? For w15

[left cedar]

só, wut about new gears, bad ?

[hollow gust]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[frank pulsar]

depends on enemy, but safe pick is hit imho

[blissful hamlet]

[frank pulsar]

all are new bis for their role
new aa is overall best aa, new asw plane is overall best asw plane and new fighter is best for support fleet

[rigid onyx]

I think it's a bit early to call the support fighter

[frank pulsar]

it has no bombs or rockets
and superior intercept to pancake

[rigid onyx]

it's 50 48 speed

[frank pulsar]

wasnt it 48? regardless stat diff is big enough

[boreal wagon]

48 but yes

[molten zinc]

48 speed to be exact

also isn't Hellcat is 52 something?

[hollow gust]

Where is the asw planet

[boreal wagon]

royal torp bombers

[left cedar]

just 15 HIT stats ... this is ... sad
no hope for AA gun with 25 FP stats ...

[molten zinc]

[rigid onyx]

I'm fairly sure it's about as good on paper than the old fuck wolf

[hollow gust]

hit stat is better then fire power like 80% of the time

[frank pulsar]

its still an upgrade to staag for backline ig
i alrdy have 2 twin 57 at +13/close to +13 so im not going to make any

[hollow gust]

Especially for your outdated ironblood ships

[left cedar]

my CAs still wanna more FP than hit

[sharp echo]

new ship is gud?

[hollow gust]

Hindy doesn't need aa guns

[hollow gust]

Theres no new ships , its new gear , and yes they are good

[eternal basalt]

New ship???

[tame jungle]

new ship where

[rigid onyx]

it's an upgrade to the 57 as well

it would be bis without the hit on most vanguards already

for aa

[sharp echo]

oh new gear

[left cedar]

iirc i still have like 14 others CA Oaths that cant equip 2nd CA Gun

[hollow gust]

CA dps though

[mild sail]

6 20mm on one fighter

[worldly pewter]

guam tanking
boot out chesire
use another tank for the boss
use a better BB instead of nj and if u want to do mob boss mob percy will have a massive value instead of haku

[white agate]

is the only way to get the twin gold 76 trough gear lab?

[mild sail]

Uhh yes

[rigid onyx]

-45 electronics for that :)

[forest palm]

81*

[rigid onyx]

plus the 36 for the Ur yea

[left cedar]

time to burn my stock and do for my BB Oathes and CV/CVLs Oaths that can equip AA

[white agate]

so, no core shop

[worldly pewter]

they just wanted to make the cost the same as 57mm i think

[left cedar]

aside, Tenrais for all my Obligational DB Slots CV/CVLs

[rigid onyx]

not like anyone's going to make a 57 ever again

[white agate]

bruh , that one costs only 60 electronics tho

[molten zinc]

if you craft it from the gold AA

[white agate]

yes, but the gold aa is quite easy to get via protocore, i especially have 4 craftable from pr 2 i think

[worldly pewter]

yeah as a total craft i used 81 for it

[hollow gust]

If you actually play opsi sufficiently you have more then enough electronics

[rigid onyx]

It depends on how long you've stopped crafting t2 ord gear ig

[echo nexus]

leveling up skills, should i do z52 or eldridge first?

[rigid onyx]

why not both? you have 2 academy slots

[white agate]

lvel both?

[echo nexus]

i have 4 but 3 of them are being used for other ships right now

[rigid onyx]

how do you have 4 academy slots but have a backlog on rainbow ship skills

[wind hazel]

are you in a hurry to use them?
yes>stop leveling 1 of the 3 ship later on
no>just level them casually

[rigid onyx]

I mean the question is something that only you can answer. Nobody here knows if your fleets will use z52 or eld within the next 2 weeks

[echo nexus]

i’ve been doing a lot of gold ships cause some of them i need for chapter 14 specifically

[echo nexus]

not in a hurry but if theres one that would be good to replace out with what im using, i’d rather do her first

[rigid onyx]

z52 and eld are probably in the top 5 vanguard ships for w14

[wind hazel]

just raise them casually, w14 isn't gonna run away

[rose cosmos]

Why wouldn’t anyone use z52 though

[echo nexus]

would it be worth swapping out any of them two for these ones on my current fleets?

[wind hazel]

yes kitakaze sucks

[cobalt rapids]

Kita and yuudachi

[hollow gust]

And azuma

[soft raft]

man what is that boss vanguard
Way too many tanks

[wind hazel]

compared to eldridge and z52

[cobalt rapids]

These look like w14 fleets

And they look fine

[rigid onyx]

you could technically cut kron and tank with poikai apparently for w14

[echo nexus]

14-3 and 14-4, yeah

[rose cosmos]

Yeah mori got me to stack 3 tanks together for w14 and they worked great

[hollow gust]

[echo nexus]

i got help with them from this server a while back but then i took a break and then got elridge and z52 (and some more too but those are the main ones)

[wind hazel]

kron is very fine for w14

i wouldnt kick her out from mob, she's fine to stay

[hollow gust]

Eldridge is kinda overrated if your fleet doesn't have survivability issues

[quasi delta]

If im missing Kersaint, can i still get the limited portrait?

[molten zinc]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

U only need the banner ships for portraits, the missions are for pity in case u miss

[echo nexus]

only have survivability issues when i’m doing auto

[hollow gust]

You autoting lethal?

Those ships shouldn't be struggling

[forest palm]

what's the build for Subs if you have 40 RLD from cats?

[echo nexus]

no, but only because they aren’t surviving

[hollow gust]

Just manually select fleets till they are on safe

[cobalt rapids]

They shouldnt have problems on clear but eldr will fix that anyway

[hollow gust]

With those ships it's more likely sub optimal gear? Eldridge can't fix that

[echo nexus]

yeahh it probably would be that since i’m lacking a lot of gear lab stuff

and i missed some event gears too

[cobalt rapids]

Those fleets can do it without but it helps

[vocal sandal]

I've retrofitted portland, who do I do next? Laffey, unicorn or helena?

[cobalt rapids]

Unicorn should have been first

[livid thunder]

Hi is it normal that my bismark 2 is doing more damage than my musashi against the guild raid boss?

[vocal sandal]

People here told me to do portland first since unicorn would have been costly. So I'll do her now then?

[hollow gust]

What boss are you even fighting

[cobalt rapids]

Yea do unicorn

[hollow gust]

Cause if it's the correct guild boss Musashi shouldn't be losing

[eager mulch]

i don’t think unicorn retrofit is costly

[vocal sandal]

Alright thanks

[livid thunder]

Well right now none but in general musashi seems to do less than Bismarck in the same amount of shots

[molten zinc]

isn't all the Siren guild boss have heavy armor?

[livid thunder]

That’s what I thought too

[vocal sandal]

I'm not sure, some people here told me so, earlier

[shell willow]

mk7 with bow

[eager mulch]

who

[exotic wren]

She needs gold bps which is pretty costly for a total newbie

Then again, it's guaranteed on what 3-4H above? As 3 star reward

[boreal wagon]

the first 1 is light, second med the other 2 heavy

[cobalt rapids]

Time for witchhunt

[livid thunder]

What?

[sage sluice]

holy crap the new UR aa gun has hit stat

[molten zinc]

[hallow mountain]

Unicorn should always be priority imo

[cobalt rapids]

Mk7 - used for light
Bow - nerfs light

[hallow mountain]

She's a free healer, and probably/arguably the best at it

[cobalt rapids]

Nothing to argue

[livid thunder]

Oh right xD though i though the buff from the other one not stack

[exotic wren]

There's no argument there, unless a new healer popped up recently

[hallow mountain]

There's also Perseus

Who's fine too but Unicorn is cuter

[cobalt rapids]

Percy is cuter but just worse

[molten zinc]

it honestly surprising how your taste is almost always the same as mine

[left cedar]

i would take my Klaudia over both

[livid thunder]

Last question for me today is the best BB lineup still musashi Bismarck and vanguard (royal navy UR BB no sure of the name)?

[exotic wren]

Wait, wasn't active for a while, last new UR was the IB one right?

[left cedar]

Fritz Rumey and Z52

[cobalt rapids]

Ones

[livid thunder]

IB?

[eager mulch]

the IB two

[cobalt rapids]

Iron blood

[eager mulch]

yes, blood does contain iron

[exotic wren]

And the next one should be right around the corner?

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

1 week

[viscid swift]

there's a live stream on the 23rd

[wind hazel]

cheeky name

[left cedar]

u know the name "Iron Blood" came from Otto Von Bismarck speach into Prussian expansion and unification of Germany, right?

[livid thunder]

Anyone has idea for the rerun of iris UR BB ? Or is she from vichia dominion….

[exotic wren]

Wat, oh horse gurl

[cobalt rapids]

Alsus is not in the near future

[uncut flower]

Around the second quarter of 2026 I guess.

[echo nexus]

would this team work fine for 14-4?
also turns out i was wrong before because i ended up clearing it fine with the auto-battles just now

[livid thunder]

Oh k damm I’m gonna need to be patient

[exotic wren]

Wait uh cheeky senpai, you still got that major events flowchart(?) or something?

[eager mulch]

that’s blasters

[exotic wren]

Ouh

He's not around rn isn't he

[cobalt rapids]

Very cheeky of him

[sweet delta]

What's AA gold plate enhance priority

[eager mulch]

discord has a search function or so im told

[livid thunder]

Just quickly before I go could someone please help ?

[little tree]

Smh

[cobalt rapids]

Wht about all-in on rainbow staag

[hollow gust]

Bismarck Soyuz/Vanguard Alsace works for every armor type

[exotic wren]

Nvm found it mb

[livid thunder]

Oh ok … got unlucky these two (Soyuz and Alsace) I didn’t get

[exotic wren]

Yea but I was not sure whose chart it was

[livid thunder]

Well have a good day

[sweet delta]

Idk about removing cheap golds to fill the vanguard, but twin 57 defiNitely certainly absolutely should be very low

[hollow gust]

I have too many

[sweet delta]

Isn't bf109g super cheap

[viscid swift]

kinda, the Ordinance reports do add up though

[cobalt rapids]

Except t2 ords

[hollow gust]

I shouldn't have maxed 3 of them

[sweet delta]

Isn't twin 90 super expensive

[cobalt rapids]

Def looks expensive

[hollow gust]

Twin90 aa?

[sweet delta]

Pr4 from gear lab
Bf109g - affordable but competes with 457, tenrai
Saiun - ultra expensive, low priority, use protocore instead
Twin 90 - super expensive, not recommended
Aegir gun- super expensive
🤡 gun - does anyone care? edit: ultra expensive

So maybe pr4 should be gear focused by new players for one of each gold gear. Get an Aegir gun, use gear lab for more bfg, and use protocore for more saiuns

[cobalt rapids]

What was the avg time spent for 1 gold gear ?

[sweet delta]

For me it is 2 weeks

I may be a new player, but new players are not me

[cobalt rapids]

So mby 3-4 then

[hollow gust]

[sweet delta]

FwG is so cheap though gonna recommend 6 in /w15

[ivory pawn]

T1 ords and no elec for a SR plane

[cobalt rapids]

W15 welfare

[molten zinc]

and only 2 SR plan like how can it be that cheap

[sweet delta]

You could get gold plates back from ryuusei if you enhanced too many

[tame pivot]

Soo.. this the current UR gear I have, and my available UR gear resources. Any suggestions for what to craft now that the gear lab was updated?

[mild sail]

So I blow 9×6 T1 ord report on the purple planes
Which leave me with no t1 ord left to actually craft the gold plane

Which is 4×6 t1 ord for 6 plane

[eager mulch]

ok

[keen sable]

#gameplay-help message
Asks loaded question and decides to misinterpret answers

[mild sail]

So this gun existed only for US BB because they can't equip CL guns?

[viscid swift]

pretty much yes

[eternal moth]

Pretty much

[mild sail]

They put it in DD gun tab make me think I can put it on DDs, until I scroll down

[eternal moth]

That's really cheap for a top-tier interceptor.

[eternal moth]

You wouldn't want to put it on a DD anyway; they usually want high firing rate guns

[mild sail]

Yea

[rigid onyx]

it's not even known to be be better than purple fw

[tepid crater]

Its an extremely minor thing but I like the gold 137 more than a random UR dd gun (if you can afford that) on the EU BBS since the range and shell velocity is better

[mild sail]

What about the fact that the UR gun is a UR which is more expensive and currently only 1 IJN UR dd gun existed in the gear lab

[neat bobcat]

Hello, new to the game here. I am trying to 3 star hard mode maps but escort fleet aren't spawning for me, only the boss is. How do I get the escort fleets to spawn?

[cobalt rapids]

disable clearing mode

[neat bobcat]

I have it off, still only the boss spawns.

[keen sable]

It's not off so try showing the screen with it off

[molten zinc]

the twin 100mm only have 20 FP compare to 35 FP of the twin 137mm, the only option that have higher FP than 35 of gold DD gun is Mogador gun which we only have 1 in the entire game

[stone sluice]

What’s the name of the new support fighter in gear lab?

[frank pulsar]

twin 137 is close to ply gun in terms of bb defence iirc for reference, twin 100 is kinda eh imho since first of all its kinda wasted on a backline and like bread said twin 137 is just better than twin 100 anyway for bb

[frank pulsar]

its german fw 190 smth idr the full name

[chilly crow]

How do you replay the entrance animation for live2d skins?

[hollow gust]

Loggin in again

Or you can always to the archive section of a ship

[soft raft]

New ASW TB beats Guam event plane right

[chilly crow]

Where in the archive section?

[soft raft]

On the ship's stat page

[molten zinc]

yeah since it drop 2 depth charge

[white agate]

flapjack level?

[rose whale]

who get to use the shiny new AA gun? 😄

[white agate]

me

[vocal sandal]

how many gems can a f2p player get?

[mild sail]

So Soyuz barrage, the iceberg is guaranteed to hit right? It can't miss?

[river junco]

cheaper

[hollow gust]

Iceberg is like 5 invis bombs , you will hit 2-4 usually

[mild sail]

All it do is AA, no bombs, no rocket

[stark quiver]

Do we have a new bis support fleet fighter

[hollow gust]

Supposedly

The new aa gun is a buff for Fritz

[mild sail]

Damn I thought we got a new Divine Marksman+

[hollow gust]

Those two are nothing alike???

[mild sail]

Well I assumed that the iceberg can't be miss

[hollow gust]

Divine marksmen is weak as fuck barrage fired from backline , and it can definitely miss

[stark quiver]

Do /gems in bot spam

[mild sail]

I don't know what Soyuz barrage can do but I like it because occasionally the enemy will just be dead before she even fire her gun

[boreal wagon]

(almost) everything can fail the eva check

[crimson glacier]

soyuz iceberg does dmg as soon as she starts to shoot

and it basically cant miss, unlike divene marksman that misses all the time

[mild sail]

It start when she finished loading

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure for Soyuz barrage , the overlapping portion of it is quite small, so she can still miss

[dense pecan]

Congrats. I want her

[hollow gust]

[dense pecan]

[mild sail]

I think you posted it in wrong channel and forgot about it

[soft raft]

He was replying to someone's question with that

[stark quiver]

wasnt goose showing the l2d archive

[hollow gust]

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1212634891095908363/weapon_-4659047555620108302.gif?ex=67b8b9ff&is=67b7687f&hm=81bb5be5b49ce4b7ec44fda09313ad49592e078bfa1a3b51da641092ab3aa21b&

[hollow gust]

Oh it's 7 bombs not 5

[soft raft]

What's that for?

[molten zinc]

Soyuz barrage hit box probably

[pseudo hearth]

I asked before, and I genuinely forgot the answer I was given. I'm approaching the UR exchange number. Should I grab UvH or Shima?

I have all the other URs from that list

[stark quiver]

shima doesnt give +1 rld

therefore, ulrich is better

[pseudo hearth]

Usability though?

[stark quiver]

both dont fit into current meta

[sweet delta]

Shimakaze can be used in some EXs, but jintsuu meta is better, so Shimakaze will only be used together with jintsuu meta when you need more damage than jintsuu meta provides alone

[stark quiver]

if youre funny you can use uvh for 5 second rld memes

[sweet delta]

Ulrich can be used against Newcastle CM, but there are other ways to win

[rose cosmos]

I guess impecable rerun is this year then?

[stark quiver]

most likely

[rose cosmos]

I’m checking old events right now, she is def next lol since they rerun every 2022 events already

[soft raft]

Yop
Only question is when but it's pro gonna be relatively soon

Would be hilarious if it's right after this new UR ends

Which did happen with BisZwei and NJ

[rose cosmos]

Impla, bis, guam and unzen back to back

[eternal basalt]

Implacc rerun expected after Pizza UR

[soft raft]

No
There's a few SR events in between them

[eternal basalt]

unzen is BEFORE guam too

[forest palm]

ya, but then look how backed up Op Convergence was

[rose cosmos]

Did the datamine specified the new itali girl?

[jaunty vault]

no

[eternal basalt]

How can we datamine someone released NEXT WEEK?

[forest palm]

the ship usually used in the CTA banner is attainable

[eternal basalt]

As drop ship/shop ship/0.5... but she's SSR

[forest palm]

an Italian ship no less

[eternal basalt]

I mean, for an ITA event? They used Hipper last time... for a German event

[forest palm]

glad you arrived at the station

anyway, I believe there was some list that was datamined with a bunch of ship names

[rose cosmos]

So why is azuma considered bad btw

[stark quiver]

shes not

[eternal basalt]

Worst non-collab CB, that's all

[forest palm]

she's just old, and that's kind of it, her kit didn't age well

[jaunty vault]

opportunity cost if anything

[kindred arrow]

She also directly competes with Agir in coining priority now

[forest palm]

Anchor also exists

[eternal basalt]

Heh, they use Yorktown II event as placholders for this event, damn...

And Guam, Kronk, Breast

[rose cosmos]

But like, with agir and acho, it’s 3 relatively easy to build tanks already

[kindred arrow]

Placeholders for what? Stage names or something?

[eternal basalt]

The 2800 event points, they use Yorktown II event ships

[rose cosmos]

Also scylla is mainly for mob rite

[pallid vortex]

After getting 2 wyvern what should i use my UR blueprints on? 406mm gun?

[forest palm]

2 wyverns is fine enough, however you're gonna have to specify when you use, "406" cause there's a lot of those

[white agate]

there is only one that is ur tho

[forest palm]

Unsure due to the phrasing of the question

[zenith pebble]

i thought the french 406 was better

[stark quiver]

theres no comparison to a ap and he gun

[white agate]

make a meta boss change between light and heavy armor during the battle

[eternal basalt]

#game-feedback

[white agate]

the dream of getting al timings right

[soft raft]

[stone sluice]

What about next CM? Any suggestions

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/february

[storm heron]

next CM is a pinata

[stark quiver]

scroll to march

and its literally just your standard ijn heavy comp

[zenith pebble]

hungry

[rose cosmos]

So I guess staag is getting phased out now that the new cat aa gun is a thing then

[stark quiver]

the new aa is expensive
and like 5 more hit

[soft raft]

5 more HIT is indeed more pog but STAAG still cheaper

[sweet delta]

I sure wouldn't recommend +13ing staag

[slow fox]

I wouldn't either
-# Rare suchi agree with mebot

[rose cosmos]

Well I mean what else do you use the gold AA prints then

[glossy granite]

Ik what i am asking for is absurd but is there like a Dorm theme list for like really exclusive ones and best looking ones lol

[stark quiver]

subjective lists dont exist

[glossy granite]

Fair point ig

[sweet delta]

Subjective list exists if you make it yourself

[eternal basalt]

All lists are subjective

[whole crypt]

but none of them are "exclusive"

best looking is up to you I'm keeping my 765pro office

[stark quiver]

well in terms of how you like it lists

[glossy granite]

Shouldnt have asked

[stark quiver]

gimme a month

[glossy granite]

If you really want to just list the limited ones, no need for ''Top 50 best DORM THEMES''

or some shit like that

[whole crypt]

you can run out if you do something like this

(yes there's a 4th row)

[soft raft]

lol

[rose cosmos]

Is that a threat

[eternal basalt]

CN/JP recovers by throwing $1000 at it

[whole crypt]

I didn't get the memo you can buy plates

[eternal basalt]

You can buy oil > AP

[whole crypt]

not going to bother

[cobalt rapids]

we could also buy raw plates last xmas

or was it blackfriday

[boreal wagon]

the latter

[whole crypt]

probably black friday, JP didn't have it

[eternal basalt]

BF offered for coins even I think

[whole crypt]

I'm just waiting to see if we get some for spring sale

[cobalt rapids]

thanks pookie

[eternal basalt]

JP gets BF with christmas

[glossy granite]

Is saratoga retrofit good lol

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure we didn't get the item sales

the skins maybe can't remember

but off the top of my head we didn't have much special going on for Christmas

[stark quiver]

we had gacha pon

[whole crypt]

which JP did not get either

[pallid vortex]

I meant the UR 406mm

[stark quiver]

oh jp?

tbf, most of en didnt know either

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is just a shiny Mk6 if you don't have 360 gold plates lying around

[pallid vortex]

My mk6 are all at +10 so I was wondering if I should craft mk7

I have 21 ur blueprints. Don't really know what to do with them after wwyverns

[slow fox]

save for urudder

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is only very marginally better than Mk6 before you enhance past +11

are those 21 rainbow print selectors or 21 gun prints

[stray cobalt]

How is the new US 76 AA gun?

[whole crypt]

if they're selectors I'd lean towards making AA to be more impactful for ch15, or probably even the DD gun depending on the DD you're using

[slow fox]

It has slightly less DPS than the existing UR AA gun, though.

[stark quiver]

[slow fox]

~95% AA DPS, despite having more Alpha.

[whole crypt]

the thing about Mk7 is outside of gearing BBs for light bosses, you barely ever touch it if you know what you're doing with BB guns in lategame

[eternal basalt]

Doubt they EVER come to gear lab, no aux gear so far

[stray cobalt]

But it gets a range of 32

[whole crypt]

we can make that speculation after they add a UR rudder at all

[boreal wagon]

technically asw planes are aux but i digress

[slow fox]

Never doubt only hope

URudder coming May 2025

[whole crypt]

the monkey paw curls, it has same EVA stats and some other random shit

[worldly pewter]

they only added aux in the core shop so i really doubt it will be in the lab

[boreal wagon]

thats why i said i digress

[zenith pebble]

there a guide to shipyards?

[stark quiver]

what u need help with

[whole crypt]

#al-general is that way mebot

[zenith pebble]

who to build next

[stark quiver]

who have you built

[worldly pewter]

let the man dream

[zenith pebble]

havent startd on any of the pr5+

[sweet delta]

Can I get a source for that

[whole crypt]

is that just plain old RLD fallacy

[stark quiver]

i think plymouth can be a good start

else you can go straight to pr7

[slow fox]

Yeah, accounting for the rld time per aa gun

[zenith pebble]

who i start on 7?

[whole crypt]

anyway I don't have enough AA plates now so I'm probably not crafting the new AA gun for a while

[stark quiver]

anyone

[zenith pebble]

cant do italians, i doont have enough tech points

ooo would marco polo help?

[whole crypt]

just pick a season 4-7 and wrap up the whole series

you'll probably have enough pasta points after the coming event

[zenith pebble]

so 200 techs?

[whole crypt]

like just pick any ship you can work on and work on it first

next event is pasta UR so chances are they'll help top you up a fair lot

[zenith pebble]

breast?

[whole crypt]

any

it's not like the ship you pick really matters unless you have prints waiting

incomplete research ships will just be benchwarmers for most part

[ivory pawn]

Done FdG and PR4 besides Marco?

[zenith pebble]

yep

[ivory pawn]

Then just choose a random coinable ship to throw free bps at if you need one. PR5 options are nice to pull them out of the pool to make getting Ply researches easier. Or you can go back to PR1-3, especially if you haven’t finished their catchup yet to do the protocore trick.

[zenith pebble]

👍

[whole crypt]

PR4 is still good to do especially ifyou haven't finished agir and hakuryuu

but otherwise just pick something from 4 or newer that you can work on

[zenith pebble]

w13 ijn fleet

[rose cosmos]

I honestly barely use hakuryuu nowadays now that amagi is a thing lol

[viscid swift]

not everyone has Amagi

[pallid vortex]

All 21 are selectors

[pseudo hearth]

I don't have Jintsuu META anyway

[pallid vortex]

I'm still farming ch 12 for opsi team. Don't think I'll hit ch 15 anytime soon though. Is AA still recommended?

[stark quiver]

you can get away with roombas + 90mms

[river junco]

If I'm using a ship like Nakh as W15 support, what do I place in the TB slot, or does it not even matter if it's empty?

[stark quiver]

a extra wyvern for stat padding

if not, any plane

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[pallid vortex]

So do I craft mk7 first till I get to chpt 15 then craft UR AA?

[stark quiver]

do you need it rn?

[pallid vortex]

Not really

[glossy granite]

When you auto campaign, does it auto change to your second fleet once your ammo runs out?

[sweet delta]

Any rainbow > gold plane, but prioritize rainbows for the two surface fleets

[pallid vortex]

I just dk if it's a waste to hoard the 21 selectors

[sweet delta]

You can set the Roles, which can only swap for boss, not for out of ammo mob

[glossy granite]

How do i set the roles again

[tame jungle]

you click role

[glossy granite]

First time im doing double fleet so idk lol

[tame jungle]

on the right

[glossy granite]

Oh

[stark quiver]

i mean, you could just hold onto it
your selectors and the gear arent going anywhere

[glossy granite]

Also holy this Fu shun retrofit is amazing

Just wish my gears werent this absolutely shocking

I have the missile for fu shun but rest sucks lol

[stark quiver]

just run a decent dd gun and sot4g

[glossy granite]

Wait so you do Flagship for the boss fleet and Escort for the mob fleet?

[forest palm]

[cobalt gate]

so any of the new gear other than the rainbow aa and plane important?

[hollow gust]

The rainbow and gold gears have things they specialize at. Most people don't need them until later in the game

[forest palm]

they're basically world 15 power creep

[cobalt gate]

wow the aa gun is like 80 electronics

[forest palm]

81

[cobalt gate]

the stupid pre requisite needs so much lol

[white agate]

at least, the tenrai is only 60; i think the gold pre print was from pr4 tho?

[cobalt gate]

i mean its 80 as well with needing suisei model

[stark quiver]

just have the suisei beforehand

[cobalt gate]

i have suisei but no suisei 12a

[worldly pewter]

yeah it is 80 take it or leave it

i took it

[bold salmon]

is the gannet better than the tbm avenger?

[cobalt gate]

i need someone to look over my gear i guess

[lunar arrow]

Fairey has 4sec per wave,is that correct?

[worldly pewter]

make a thread and post all ur gear there

[boreal wagon]

assuming you mean gannet its about 3s/launch at +10, but it needs a valid target to launch

[white agate]

btw what is the average aquisition rate of secret UR prints(T3 ordinances) per month usually?

[cobalt gate]

i feel like 5-7?

[lunar arrow]

Oh, conditional plane

[eternal basalt]

Ur print: 4 (+random from red zones) T3 ordinance: 1

[cobalt gate]

what gear to lvl up and create.

[light trail]

1. how many tenrais do i want (i have 2)
2. should i prioritize the other ur AA gun over the new EU AA gun?
3. what new gear is worth making?

[stark quiver]

2, mayb not, w/e u need

[sweet delta]

1. 2
2. No
3. Twin 76 for everything or up to 6 fwg for chapter 15 support

[stark quiver]

bro also said yes

[sweet delta]

I was looking for a good sakura empire AA gun

[light trail]

wow, new planes are that good?

[ivory pawn]

They obviously meant Sardegna Empire smh.

[light trail]

i meant iris orthodoxy. for some reason my brain turns that AA gun into sakura empire

[ivory pawn]

They're just anti-air, so they're pretty whatever outside of the w15 support fleet. But makes them really good for said support fleet, plus they're dirt cheap too.

[light trail]

maybe i should finally try to progress past ch 12.... im sure i have more than good enough roster and equips for that

w13 fleet help

[stark quiver]

Does this mean 291 left to get it 291 already gotten

[hollow gust]

Gotten

[stark quiver]

why do i only have 90 bps wtf
and i just unlocked her

[stone sluice]

1 T3 ordnance from shop
6 T2 ordnances from shop but I usually get around 15-25 T2 ordnances total from shop + farming OPS so it’s 2 or 3 more if you compose them (8 T2= 1 T3)
So it’s like 3 or 4 T3 ordnances monthly.

[eager mulch]

you must’ve used catchup on someone else

[stark quiver]

w8 what
its not per ship?

[eager mulch]

not for the golds, they have 300 shared per season

[stark quiver]

well that kinda sucks then

is there any drawback in using pr5/7 bps on her

[eager mulch]

yes

[ivory pawn]

Yes, not having those PR5/7 prints for PR5/7 ships. Can't coin PR7, can coin her.

[hollow gust]

Why would you use prints on a ship that can be coined

[eager mulch]

just use unzen

[stark quiver]

im done with pr7 anyways,

ill coin then

[white agate]

thanks

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

Jinstuu meta also works

[stark quiver]

i need both jintM and her
ima coin her up then

[cobalt gate]

How much gold plate do we even get? Feels like less than 50 per month for specific?

Mainly need plane and guns

[quartz nest]

How is atago now with her augment?

[stark quiver]

shes better, but still meh

[cobalt gate]

Has there ever been an agument that made a ship meta again? San Diego feels more because of world 15

[stark quiver]

ibukis aug made her preload almost as gud as shima

[hollow gust]

We haven't gotten a bad PR augment

[hollow gust]

Better

[cobalt gate]

Oh true

[left cedar]

agree with not bad augments, but not enough to make something worth it aswell, aside Ibuki ...

[hollow gust]

Roon got really good beats Drake more often then not , Saint and Izumo are back on top

[left cedar]

"top"
top for me are UR ...
and all them are far from being competitive with them
aside Ibuki in a niche with her TRPs

they are out of a huge limbo, back to usable, but not needed or in a niche, far from being recommended and decent to use in progress since slow development/time for a begginer, and far from being usefull for a end game player

for who like his waifus, ok, its a upgrade and its viable if u wanna, but not recommended

[hollow gust]

If top is UR then you can remove ships like fdg and ulrich considering they lose to a SR in campaign

[rigid onyx]

whats the point of reccomending gold fw when it's not even known if it's better than purple atm

[slow fox]

Best augment was Eugen augment 20 EVA

[left cedar]

FdG still top for W14 and viable for anything b4 it ... just not ideal for W15

[cobalt rapids]

what SR beats fdg and ulrich in campaign ?

[slow fox]

NorCar. :mutsuki:

[left cedar]

UvH, i have to agree with it, in campaign she are quite bad in general

[cobalt rapids]

[left cedar]

dont give much attention to Gray, he its a complete hate of KMS ships, spcially when i'm around

[barren tapir]

wait fdg loses to gold bbs now in campaign?

[barren tapir]

better

[left cedar]

equal

cuz in my meths 15+5 its 20

[hollow gust]

I called Roon top , you are the one that disagreed

[slow fox]

Holy you're right - it also gives HPBARRIER

[cobalt rapids]

outmebotted

[barren tapir]

neptune more ehp than eugen

[left cedar]

cuz she is not top ...
Roon still in limbo when its about CAs, and even worse when u look to competition ...

[barren tapir]

tbh i think roon is pretty darn good for what she is idk about top but shes at least arguable in the realm of gold accessible ships

[left cedar]

a begginer can have a use for Roon, but the time and cost he will have to rise, dev and gear her, others CAs it will have a better use than Roon
for end game ... Roon dosnt even exist

[barren tapir]

roon provides kms tech so its not exactly bad to invest in her per se

[left cedar]

in mid game once u reach in farm lands ... but just for KMS tech, nothing more

[hollow gust]

For CA damage Roon only really loses to ships like hinden and unzen now

[barren tapir]

in mid game she is a strong ship she only falls off in end game as you said (if thats even accurate, idk anymore)

[left cedar]

by such large margin that makes her dosnt even exist
and u are forgetting Ibuki

[barren tapir]

roon provides both strong ship and tech making her a solid investment to me

[left cedar]

also, iirc, Michita and a French one ...

[barren tapir]

[left cedar]

so just by that already 5 gold CAs better than roon
and the top 3 makes her looks like useless

[barren tapir]

unzen is event locked, hinden takes much much longer than roon and requires focusing pr6 currently to some degree which is ill advised

for a newer player roon is a very good option as a result, is she not?

your counting is wrong also, mitchita, french, ibuki = 3 better than roon (allegedy), hinden and unzen aren't gold lmao

idk which french either besides saint louis on light

[left cedar]

idk if u gona have space for her
she isnt gona make a change for W13, in W14 u can argue about her that, but Why? she isnt ASW capable, not tank enough to compete with Ancho, not flexible as others ships can be with buffs and others mechanics, and also why a CA in SSs map if she cant tank decent enough?

idr French ships, cuz ... they are french ... but is one that have a bug that match Hindy dmg time ago

[barren tapir]

i mean roon is just generally a good filler ship you can slot into most places campaign also isnt the only content?

[cobalt rapids]

if u mean brennus then she was bugged

[barren tapir]

i dont think you generally would use ibuki in campaign either so bringing that up feels a little moot. same goes for hinden, tho i think unzen is used maybe?

[left cedar]

yeah, i mentioned that ... iirc she still does quite a dmg for CAs

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt arbitrarly restrict myself to CAs either

[barren tapir]

and michita...absolutely does not vibe in campaign lmao

[cobalt rapids]

not that much
her swords are quite a big part of her dmg and they just go poof most of the time

[barren tapir]

also roon is perfectly capable of offtanking

[left cedar]

but why would u use CA off tank in campaign specially W14 and W15

but, in Op.Si is arguable a thing, but why not ibuki for fast clean ?

[cobalt rapids]

but if u talking gold ca then stuff like lala and fc exist and also chien recently

[barren tapir]

if you have sufficient bulk and asw or anything else you need then she's a good filler slot with solid bulk and high generalist damage like i said earlier.

also are you using ibuki, michita (lol), brennus, whoever else you listed in that slot anyway?

cant really argue roon being meh in campaign is a strong negative to her if the others you compare favorably against her also deal with that, no?

[cobalt rapids]

i wont use ibuki and michita as my tank over roon ( maybe )

[barren tapir]

and yeah lala exists unless you missed her event, in terms of permanent options roon is pretty good

i disagree (tentatively) with the whole 'top' thing but shes certainly no slouch

[cobalt rapids]

certainly average new event gold standard

[left cedar]

i still feels like she is a limbo
can be used, but not recommended (for me)
and a CL or DD can do her job but better specially in campaign

[barren tapir]

and a permanent, reasonably easy to acquire ship that lives up to the standard of modern event ships can hardly be called bad

[left cedar]

also, 100% againts call her top

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think any1 called her bad tho

[slow fox]

Roon is bad

[hollow gust]

[barren tapir]

right, got confused a bit. but imo she is a good option for mid game

i dont even like her

[left cedar]

i just dont agree with her being top, and againts her being recommended or usable over other options in campaign or Op.Si

[cobalt rapids]

pls switch to 4o

[barren tapir]

i dont agree w her being top per se either

[left cedar]

i like her alot ...

[carmine heath]

Roon is great for cdc

[left cedar]

but not enough to put my hands on fire for her, like i would do for FdG in anytime

[barren tapir]

what other options though, in terms of permanently available ships that fill her role and are similarly easy/difficult to obtain and build?

[hollow gust]

Roon is literally one of the first ships you get , she has UR output.

[barren tapir]

(im sure theres some but im drawing a bit of a blank atm, brain slow)

[slow fox]

-# Chinawall

[barren tapir]

yatsen comes from lny or random light pool iirc

[glossy granite]

Is monarch from PR1 even decent anymore

[barren tapir]

no. she may be if/when she gets her augment but not currently

i mean shes usable but theres a bunch of better options afaik

[glossy granite]

Idk i just had her for a while and i did her for the sake of it lol

[cobalt rapids]

maybe when she will get her aug

[glossy granite]

How many days left to max out FdG man, im at 17/30 with her

[left cedar]

tank ? Ancho, Port(cheaper and easier), distant option not much recommend as well Eugen

Offtank ... ok her cames alot of situations, like wut is ur main? wut is the objective Campaign? Op.Si farm ?

[glossy granite]

shes much more expensive than i thought

[barren tapir]

neptune is much less dmg
anchorage is big tank but much less dmg
agir is a contender sure but you need tech points for her, so you might as well do roon to assist in that anyway

[white agate]

coin more, tho keep enough for your needs

[barren tapir]

portland dmg is lol

[cobalt rapids]

they all tank better

[barren tapir]

i wasnt considering the tank role though, much more the offtank ca dps role

[left cedar]

why locked into CA ?

[barren tapir]

like i said, roon falls in a role i consider 'filler with decent bulk and good dmg when u dont need smth more specific'

[cobalt rapids]

why would i not run helena/sandy/ibuki/sanrui or something else there then?

[slow fox]

Hindenburg

[left cedar]

Sirius as well

[barren tapir]

because theres not a whole lot of cl and dd with 100% ehp. i guess sandy and plymouth exist though

[barren tapir]

hinden is much slower to obtain which was a point i made earlier, a mid gamer is not realistically having a dev30 double gun hinden

[viscid swift]

Seems like a bit of a weird qualifier

[hollow gust]

You guys say Drake is the base line for dps carry and when roon + Saint has more then her , suddenly they are only good dps

[cobalt rapids]

theres like very little content where u need that amout of beefiness in offtank and sandwich
but also this discussion is derailing i feel like

[barren tapir]

all im saying is roon is good, not top but good and fills her role well for a perma ship thats easily obtained

havent rlly heard anything to convince me otherwise...

[left cedar]

i never agree with Drake being gud... she dosnt even ever looks gud to me

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think any1 disagree

[barren tapir]

okay what is the argument then

[cobalt rapids]

im wondering the same

[soft raft]

[barren tapir]

i do approve of suggesting over though from a waifu perspective

[viscid swift]

Roon vs Drake looks like

[left cedar]

just me and gray once more, aguing with KMS ships, but strangely, this time is Gray upscalling a KMS ship and i'm downgradding

[stark quiver]

Gph civil war be like

[barren tapir]

dont forget gray calling fdg worse than gold bb in campaign, i still wanna hear more about that

[cobalt rapids]

are you saying roon has more dmg than drake ?

[viscid swift]

Still not sure what said SR is

[eager mulch]

what are the teams

[cobalt rapids]

sounds like easy test

[barren tapir]

at least insomuch as is that ch15 specific and which gold bb(s)?

[eager mulch]

new aa and new fighter are best aa gun and best support fighter respectively right

[left cedar]

about this one, i know more than anyone here, i'm 1000% BIASed, but i dont even gona start that

[stark quiver]

Allegedly

[hollow gust]

When was Roon augment? I did a test that day

[barren tapir]

i personally found gold bbs so bad i used triple cv mob (which i could bc manual) i really think fdg wouldve been better than any of my available bb choices

so i find it difficult to believe that, but maybe the highest end gold bbs? idk

[hollow gust]

Okay FdG may be a bit of a stretch but UVH isn't

[barren tapir]

uvh i believe. it was fdg i questioned

[glossy granite]

How do you learn to build fleets yourself? Or is it just something you naturally learn overtime after years of playing?

[left cedar]

as a FdG lover, it hurts say that FdG in W15 its quite a bad option ... but in UR class
once its about all BBs, i dont even have a doubt she does perform better than all Gold BBs

[stark quiver]

Hi, what’s the fleet power of a level 1 amagi cv compared to a lvl 125 version
Both ungeared

[barren tapir]

that would be my initial impression too yea

[barren tapir]

december 4

[willow dock]

I haven't touched w15 yet, is there not a lot of heavy armored enemies? I ask because I use FDG with Georgia gun

[stark quiver]

Big diff

Time to plug that into calculator

[left cedar]

with my personal trys, FdG biggest problems arent the enemies ships ,specifically the main prolem its her "HIT" % over smookes and her fragility once its about AA and Planes

[barren tapir]

ch15 has a mix of all iirc...command boat is heavy, hiyou/junyou is medium, aa boat is medium, repair ship is light...15-1 and 15-2 boss is heavy, 15-3 is medium, 15-4 is medium, light, medium+light right?

but georgia gun is good in general iirc

[left cedar]

her AA drags down ur AA general, also, she is quite fragille once Planes goes over ur screen ... hurts her ALOT

[willow dock]

I see

[slow fox]

Lars spotted

[boreal wagon]

technically its 571 if u dont enhance her at all

[stark quiver]

Hm 125 amagi cv and 125 vanny prob wont help with my ex scores
I need to wait for reruns and arch

[sweet delta]

Hi guys did you know that level 1 amagiCV doesn't buff jintsuu meta torpedos?

[rigid onyx]

why would she buff jintsmeta

[cobalt rapids]

drake is 120, ill runit more tomorrow to check variance

[left cedar]

[stark quiver]

I know that

[stark quiver]

Because jintm is meta faction

[rigid onyx]

??

[barren tapir]

RoonGood

[rigid onyx]

so amagi cv, w/ the sakura empire buffs, does buff her because jintsuu meta is in meta faction..?

[stark quiver]

She doesn’t
I misread

[left cedar]

Roon decent
a option for KMS Tech and CA FP, but that is it
not a thing for progression and Campaign/Op.Si since better options exist

BUT if u will, she can be used through anyplaces

[rigid onyx]

tbh meta ships should belong to both the faction of the non-meta counterpart and meta imo

[hollow gust]

Yeah ik already, I did like a dozen runs with her when it first came out

[soft raft]

Drake Aug when

[patent pivot]

if only there was some kind of tool that let you mass run tests 😔

[hollow gust]

Why did you think I wasn't agreeing with Drake being the dps carry baselin

[stark quiver]

I mean theoretically can’t someone make a 1:1 Azuzu copy

[left cedar]

iirc, Drake dosnt do much more than Roon B4 her Aug, and she dosnt tank much more than Roon B4 as well, she does marginally better than roon in everything, but with huge more investment to workout

[stark quiver]

Oh tos

[left cedar]

that makes me see Drake a really bad investment since ever

[upbeat wagon]

After researching FdG, what should i research. I dont have enough tech points for any other faction other than Iron Blood

Does Agir have coin up?

[left cedar]

quite strange ...
and yes, she does have a coinup

[upbeat wagon]

why is it?

[left cedar]

if u already complete FdG that means u are playing for at least 70~ish days, how u did manage to dosnt have enough USS or HMS techs for Ply or Ancho

[upbeat wagon]

I dont know

[rigid onyx]

You could work on Agir, but try to unlock a PR ship to coin up in parallel. Maybe work towards USS tech for ancho

[upbeat wagon]

What could that pr ship be

[left cedar]

wut W u are ? u already can farm in W12 ?

[upbeat wagon]

or should i research pr1 ships

[upbeat wagon]

W11, but i probably can clear W12

[patent pivot]

honestly more that their code is a fuckin nightmare

[left cedar]

imo advance to W12, and start to farm in 12-1, work towards Ancho and Ply MLBing HMS and USS ships, workout on AvP and coin FdG and AvP simultaneously and work on USS and HMS Tech

[rigid onyx]

I'd recommend either ancho or one of the PR1 ships for PR coining to start (as they have great augments)

with implac on the horizon if you are confident you can roll her avp loses some value

[left cedar]

this should be quite a time of work...

[hollow gust]

monarch becoming the worst PR ship from the best

[upbeat wagon]

Cant research anchorage yet but ill mlb some stuff

[spice phoenix]

what is a recommended vanguard comp for w14?

[left cedar]

this why i did mention to work on AvP

[hollow gust]

depends on what you have

[rigid onyx]

you can either send you fleet or just look online

dds are uniquely good for w14 mobbing

[bright tusk]

Is the new focke wulf the best support fighter or should i still mix the fighters with fast fighters for low rld CV?

[spice phoenix]

i have LaffII, eld, anch, guam, ägir, plymouth, unzen, shima, jda, too many

[rigid onyx]

paper calcs place the new focke wolf below purple fw but paper calcs for intercept are kinda bad,

you never mixed fighters with fast fighters for support

[soft raft]

this is the part where you go post your dock in a thread or do /w15 in #bot-spam (You can reverse engineer those fleets for W14)

[hollow gust]

Laffey2 Sandy Eld
Anchor Unzen Guam

[rigid onyx]

wtp of eld w/ laffii and sandy already

not like you need the bulk

[hollow gust]

overkill

[rigid onyx]

Just wait for people to waste their oil on empirically testing the gold fw to see if they're actually better than flaps/purple fw

[hollow gust]

you wont see the difference

[rigid onyx]

idk why everyone says they're bis when on paper its worse than purple fw

[hollow gust]

High Alpha is nice , flap/purple fw have a habit of leaving really low health planes

[upbeat wagon]

How much should i coin up FdG every day?

[soft raft]

10 BPs per day
this goes for both DR and PR Coining

[upbeat wagon]

Also should my research focus be FdG?

[hollow gust]

no

[soft raft]

If you mean setting it to PR2 focus, Hell no

[rigid onyx]

focus pr7 (some say pr5), id do the fdg catchup even though you lose protocore

[upbeat wagon]

Catchup*

[soft raft]

sure if you want

[upbeat wagon]

alright

[left cedar]

u mean get BPs ?
i'm more about use that after u finish her to get protocores and speed up ur Champys Guns, and Tenrai

[rigid onyx]

It saves you ~15 days of coining although in the long run you could've used the catchup prints to convert to protocore. It's short term vs long term benefits

[upbeat wagon]

Also should I have used protocores on tenrai or champy gun

[soft raft]

3 champy guns first

[upbeat wagon]

that sucks, im almost there to a tenrai

[rigid onyx]

i mean if you're almost there

[left cedar]

3 Champys > Tenrai >
Here u have 2 options
2-3 BFs
OR
457 > Ply gun

[shell willow]

can i see these calcs? im curious

[rigid onyx]

arent bfs cheap now

[left cedar]

not for a begginer that have some things to do after start to flex materials to build BFs

[rigid onyx]

from riceist

[shell willow]

thx

[upbeat wagon]

Whats the entire name of the champy gun

[left cedar]

Tri 406mm/50 MLE

[rigid onyx]

apparently the intercept speed is 50 while the launch plane speed is 48

which is super weird

[left cedar]

Prototype Triple 406mm /50 Main Gun Mount

if CN or JP gona be diff ...

[upbeat wagon]

I got the xp for FdG by using Brünhilde instead of Musashi, my Fritz probably doesnt have enough xp until cap to grind the entirety

[grizzled sundial]

It was actually Brun who farmed all the XP for FDG , Musashi not counted since she is of different faction .

[soft raft]

jesus you farmed 3.6 Mil XP with only a single ship?

Why are people like this man

[rigid onyx]

i mean i've done that before

[upbeat wagon]

I used fritz and brunhilde

2 is ideal, right?

[eager mulch]

3

[grizzled sundial]

Why not use all 3 ?

[rigid onyx]

l100-l125 is 4.2m

[upbeat wagon]

Needed unicorn

[viscid swift]

no you don't

and if you do, that's on you

[eager mulch]

i don’t remember the last time i needed unicorn

[grizzled sundial]

Valid , but when IB ship is at high level , they can shrug off most damage to last to boss node .

[upbeat wagon]

And i only have 2 iron blood main fleet ships unironicly

[grizzled sundial]

You don't need full HP to complete a stage , it is only an insurance .

[rigid onyx]

getting campaign to stages to safe gives artificial de-levels of the fleet and general damage reduction as well making uni bad to take when farming w11/12 in general

I've never really failed w12-1 farming with l95+ ships, although I have failed 12-4 when i tried 3 bb farming (b/c im bad)

[upbeat wagon]

Hmm alright

[keen sable]

I don't remember the last time I didn't just use uni anyway

[inland juniper]

Who is the new UR AA BiS on? I see it has a hit stat, so BBs?

[rigid onyx]

it's the best everywhere

[inland juniper]

So i gotta make a bunch of em? 🫠

[stark quiver]

Can you tho?

[rigid onyx]

you can wait for proper testing but the stats are insane

[inland juniper]

I just got my 3rd old UR AA to +13

[rigid onyx]

where aa matters i'd posit that you replace sexybofors w/ it first though, before putting it on backline

[grizzled sundial]

Better wait , some are not pleased with the slower reload and less AA bonus .

[stark quiver]

Yea that’s fine
It’s not a huge upgrade

[inland juniper]

I can prob make like 4, dont need other gear weps anyway.

[left cedar]

i just craft 3 new UR AA today .. i did stop cuz lacking coins, and i need Tenrais for Waifus and New UR AA for Oaht BBs ... so quite a bunch of them

[upbeat wagon]

whats the new UR AA

[left cedar]

its a option go to WA and Farm Schar and Gnei , hope for Tirp appear on Medal exchange
with this 3 u can do AvP and Agir easily

gearlab update, 76 Mk37 iirc

[left cedar]

i did remeber correctly

[rigid onyx]

whats the show in the bl

[viscid swift]

Top Gear

[left cedar]

quite shinning background there

[eager mulch]

i hear the new UR is bis for Amagi-chan

[viscid swift]

yes

[eager mulch]

nice

[viscid swift]

now 3/5 BB gears are all URs, this is what I call progress

[eager mulch]

4/5, can’t forget gamer table

[left cedar]

can be 4 if Light

[storm heron]

can be 5 if bisz

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, Mk7 exists

[eager mulch]

mk7/twin 457, quad 152, 76mm, AFT

[hollow gust]

3/5?

[viscid swift]

76mm, Plymouth Gun, and Fire Control Table

[left cedar]

shinning
hopping for 5/5

[rigid onyx]

crossbow nj gun

[hollow gust]

m7 with crossbow

[eager mulch]

isn’t that bowgun

[left cedar]

i notice after SS ... my bad

[eager mulch]

i thought crossbow was a cl aug

[hollow gust]

crossbow bowgun same thing

[rigid onyx]

i think bowguns dont fire thru tension w/ a bowstring or smth but are also not really a real life thing

[forest palm]

what's the Sub loadout with 40 RLD Cats

[storm heron]

can larscalc calc?

[faint cloud]

Rainbow shells when

[silk sphinx]

Kinda late but how’s the new gear looking other than the better staag

[eager mulch]

the golds are good or so im told

[viscid swift]

as good as an ASW plane and fighter with no offensive capabilities can be

[rigid onyx]

better staag kinda undersells 76, at least on paper

aa is fucked though maybe it's somehow worse

[silk sphinx]

Just one new UR gear yeah?

just went through patch notes

[rigid onyx]

tenrai in lab as well

[silk sphinx]

Guess I can make a few copies

Forgot that they update gear lab around this time

[sharp socket]

heavy, amagi cv, shinano

[silk sphinx]

Tb should be better realistically

Conv tb>tenrai

Do pay attention to timing

[glossy granite]

How do i cope with missing out on Musashi

[stark quiver]

Use another ur

[silk sphinx]

Just use bis2 soyuz Alsace instead

[glossy granite]

As if i have any of them 😂

[stark quiver]

Wait for their service and reruns

[river junco]

Does anyone have a good anti-med loadout for soy/nakh/haku? tryna use 2 la-9 on the cvs and sync it to soy's slow, and I put the tenrais and wyverns to my anti-heavy fleet

[glossy granite]

What does happen to UR's who already got their reruns, do they eventually get into the perma pool?

[stark quiver]

Yes

[river junco]

you might just have to wait a while

[stark quiver]

Just mess around with timings

[silk sphinx]

All the current perma pool URs were event only URs at first

Next is vanguard I think

After that musashi

[tropic tusk]

dont think after is mushi

[glossy granite]

Which was the latest UR to the pool, Kronstadt?

[silk sphinx]

Past URs schedule
sep 17 2020 - Shinano (JP anniversary)
may 27 2021 - New Jersey (CN anniversary)
sep 16 2021 - Shimakaze (JP anniversary)
dec 29 2021 - Ulrich Von Hutten
feb 24 2022 - Kronshtadt
may 26 2022 - Vanguard (CN anniversary)
sep 15 2022 - Musashi (JP anniversary)
dec 22 2022 - Yorktown II
feb 23 2023 - Implacable
may 25 2023 - Bismarck Zwei (CN anniversary)
sep 14 2023 - Unzen (JP anniversary)
dec 21 2023 - Guam & Laffey II
feb 29 2024 - Sovetsky Soyuz
may 21 2024 - Alsace & Mogador (CN anniversary)
sep 12 2024 - Amagi (CV) (JP anniversary)
dec 19 2024 - Fritz Rumey & Z52
feb 27 2025 - Raffaello
may 20 2025 - Lion & Trafalgar

Yep musashi after vg

[tropic tusk]

oh it is mushi

[glossy granite]

Not Vanguard?

[tropic tusk]

vanguar is the coming up one

we were talking about the one after vanguard

[inland shoal]

Well they are talking about the ship after vanguard. That is not gonna be vanguard

[glossy granite]

Oh

I thought i was cooked for a sec, phew

[tropic tusk]

nice im jsut 3 UR ships away from getting all of them

[glossy granite]

While i only got 5 UR's 💀

[tropic tusk]

its fine we all gota start somewhere

[glossy granite]

Its a struggle but yea i am barely holding it up

[stark quiver]

I started with 0 URs

[tropic tusk]

i started with 0 UR also

[glossy granite]

There was no UR when i started aswell but i took a big break 😅

[tropic tusk]

by the time guam came in i was already ch9

[glossy granite]

I was there when Shinano and New jersey first came out

[rigid onyx]

how do you start with a UR

is there the hidden option of laffey, jave, z23, & also shima somewhere

[tropic tusk]

as in when u start playing theres a UR event

[inland shoal]

Get one from tutorial builds (I have no idea what pool those were from)

[glossy granite]

What about when you started and UR's didnt exist

[rigid onyx]

i mean atp content wasnt built around rainbow

[nimble knoll]

Shud I?

[rigid onyx]

sure, although she isn't a premier option in campaign she's great elsewhere

[keen sable]

why would you bother doing 2LB if you didn't want to MLB...

[tropic tusk]

if im not wrong this guy keeps asking for help and advice yet never listen

[nova solstice]

My first UR is warspite

[tropic tusk]

my first was fdg if that counts

[forest palm]

[forest palm]

that's common if you're from 2019, that or Azuma/Drake

[tropic tusk]

no im from 2023

[forest palm]

corgi retro was a thing then too

[tropic tusk]

i didnt retro her till after i got guam

[stark quiver]

If it makes you feel better
I got shinano months after UR pity got added

[tropic tusk]

[glossy granite]

I got Shinano when she came out but ofc she was useless, good luck MLB back then 💀

[tropic tusk]

was it even harder to mlb UR before?

[glossy granite]

Shinano was the first UR

[keen sable]

no weird demonic voices telling you to not MLB a UR

[dense pecan]

Guys please help!

[glossy granite]

Just ask man

[dense pecan]

I think I lost all progress!!! I can’t access on my iPad for some reason

[tropic tusk]

/techsupport

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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Please note that the answer may take a while, so we ask you to be patient.

[keen sable]

did you use a new device?

[tropic tusk]

do u at least have ur UID or sth

[dense pecan]

I bound it to a Twitter account. But accidentally clicked on a wrong server. Originally server was Washington

[stark quiver]

Then log out and then log into old server

[forest palm]

• did you link your account
• did you happen to switch servers
• if you've spent money on the game send a support ticket they can recover the account off of that

[keen sable]

so change it to washington

but i highly advise tapping refresh list anyway

[glossy granite]

Make sure you in the right server, once i thought mine was wiped but turns out the server was changed so i changed it back to Amagi

[dense pecan]

1. I did to Twitter then a YoStar. 2. On accident. 3. yes, I have in the past

[forest palm]

so nothing to worry about, switch back to washington, and see if your credentials are there

[tropic tusk]

https://account.yo-star.com/ u can always check which server u were on here

[dense pecan]

I am back to Washington... hopefully no tutorial...

[barren tapir]

not really, its more like they triple check with gph for every single decision they do

[dense pecan]

oh no!!! Tutorial!

[glossy granite]

Try different servers

[barren tapir]

and it looks sometimes like they dont listen but usually its bc different ppl gave them different advice at different times lmao, kinda funny. they need to get more confidence to make decisions themselves imo

[tropic tusk]

naa he asked the same question like 5 times within an hour last time

[barren tapir]

[glossy granite]

Tho they made pretty good progress lol and i do that too sometimes

[tropic tusk]

gave him link he said he dont want to read n stuff

[keen sable]

don't use yorkii was my favorite

[dense pecan]

Okay, What should I do? Please step by step.

[tropic tusk]

see like this guy

gave him answer and he still dont understand

[keen sable]

followed very closely by don't use aquila

[barren tapir]

some ppl need more active guidance, they learn differently. i really dont think its an issue since this channel is to ask questions anyway.

[dense pecan]

Back to Tutorial.

[stark quiver]

What if I don’t learn

[barren tapir]

tho it is kinda funny seeing they asked about vv vs hood today when that got answered like a month ago iirc

[glossy granite]

Most people are very casual on games and researching is an unknown concept to them

[tropic tusk]

different people asking the same quesiton is fine

[barren tapir]

but also tbf you can forget things over a month

[tropic tusk]

but same person asking the same question is not fine , unless they ask the same quesiton form a month apart i guess thats fine

[dense pecan]

I think you have the wrong person... I havent been in this server in a long time...

[keen sable]

not you

[barren tapir]

they either forgot they asked or they didnt see a reply bc it came late. many reasons why this would happen.

[zenith pebble]

🇷🇺

[dense pecan]

Alright, so follow these steps

[glossy granite]

But tbf i did get really confused once especially with the Fu shun retrofit which i ended asking like 4 times and got diff answers, but i ended up retrofiting her thanks to that Invade france guy for my 2nd fleet lol

[forest palm]

then take it to customer support, along with any account credentials you can think of including any receipts if you've spent money

[stark quiver]

I ask the same questions everyday

[keen sable]

when will you ask about ur aa again?

[stark quiver]

Yah

[barren tapir]

gph is cool and helpful but one issue you might encounter is the regulars might have very different opinions on some things, which can lead to conflicting advice and confusion xD

[dense pecan]

Quit the game. Is all progress lost to recover my account on my own?

[stark quiver]

~~ is the new AA good guys ~~

[glossy granite]

Try all servers if you havent

[forest palm]

we can't help you anymore you need to talk to actual people in customer support

[barren tapir]

the amt of back and forth i remember with xeno, yk2, and aquila... and even before that, vv and hood and ppl arguing leading them to 1lb both of them

[dense pecan]

Okay heres the thing. I also logged into my ipad... could that have caused the error?

[keen sable]

if you do this you don't need to waste time

[tropic tusk]

just go here https://account.yo-star.com/ login with ur twitter or wtever u login with before and see which server ur account is

[glossy granite]

Did you login with your acc?

[barren tapir]

i actually wasnt here for the talks about the new equips is it good then? id assume so cos 15 hit but it's also pretty expensive

[dense pecan]

Yes, via Tiwtter