gameplay-help

[turbid gyro]

I created a new account with no bind, I quit, I logged back into my old account, and it brought me back to my no bind a ccount

[keen sable]

so nowhere in that did you say you tapped change server and results

[tropic tusk]

https://account.yo-star.com/ try this

[turbid gyro]

WHY DO I HAVE TO CHANGE MY SERVER

[cobalt gate]

so will twitter account link be disconnected in future? i'm kinda confused

[turbid gyro]

Yea I can log in that way

[tropic tusk]

can u see which server ur account is in?

[turbid gyro]

yes as I was saying, Little enterprise

[tropic tusk]

so now change server to little enter and u should be fine

[turbid gyro]

It was

[tropic tusk]

or wt are u missing?

[bold stream]

You got your ships back already?

[turbid gyro]

no..

So the new account I created kinda somehow took on my old accounts e-mail even though I dident bind it?

am I cooked?

[tropic tusk]

if u didnt bind it unless u remember ur UID then yea its gone

[turbid gyro]

I have my UID

From the account center

[bold stream]

Cooked maybe? But same thing happened to me once. My phone just decided to forget my login and I had to scramble on my emails for the account. Maybe you just mixed up the emails?

[tropic tusk]

wht do u mean another center

[turbid gyro]

nope. I can still see the verification e-mails the first time I set my account up

[turbid gyro]

This thing

[tropic tusk]

but u said that isnt the account ur looking for

[turbid gyro]

Wdym

[bold stream]

That is the new uid...?

[turbid gyro]

I can see my old account from here but I cant reach it in game

[tropic tusk]

oh ok, so go in game and before login just click yostar and input that email

and click on the same server that u have according to the link

[turbid gyro]

BRO THATS THE THING THE E-MAIL I PUT INTO THAT IS NOW BOUND TO THE NEW ACCOUNT THAT I DID'NT EVEN BIND

[tropic tusk]

i dont get it

[turbid gyro]

I dont ether

[tropic tusk]

i mean i dont get wt ur saying lol

[crisp raven]

title screen. tap once. click change. your email binds to all of the servers. you need CS to remove an email. change to your appropriate server

[tropic tusk]

wait do u mean ur current account is bind to the email that u had another on?

[turbid gyro]

wdym

[turbid gyro]

yes somehow

[tropic tusk]

/techsupport

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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[storm heron]

unfortunately game login and bind account is just very confusing

[turbid gyro]

I'm def cooked lol

[tropic tusk]

i never had issue

maybe cause i started with email

[turbid gyro]

I uninstalled my emulator by accident

so now I need to log back in

[quartz breach]

How's Chien Wu overall?

[storm heron]

her stats looks bad
#gameplay-help message

[eager mulch]

[keen sable]

~~omg chien's stat wheel is worse than indy 🚮 ~~

[silk thistle]

I need help for This

[zenith heron]

Yikes, weird Loadout sadly

For what content?
Campaign?

[silk thistle]

Can anyone show me a better build for Illustrious?

[silk thistle]

Campaign

[stark quiver]

flapjack, flap, wyvern

[silk thistle]

I don't have that, sorry :(

[keen sable]

what about it?

[stark quiver]

hellcat, hellcat, gold barracuda

[zenith heron]

You can change that 2nd Fighter to either a Hell cat or another Pirate Squad

Never use an Hvar on Campaign

[silk thistle]

Hellcat HVAR? I just have one and The Gold Barracuda

[stark quiver]

normal gold hellcat

[silk thistle]

Okay ._.

[silk thistle]

I don't Have that ._.

[zenith heron]

Ofc there are some contents that need HVar, but damn in all other parts of the campaign its not needed, unless you want to deal Light Armored Bosses faster for no Intercept

[storm heron]

people use hvar in campaign?

[glossy granite]

Which ship is mostly to get a II version UR?

[silk thistle]

Yorktown i guess?

[stark quiver]

idk
what ship does?

[keen sable]

y'all acting like enty goes around strutting 8 interceptors

[stark quiver]

she already got one
and the answer is nobody knows

[keen sable]

look at that lusty. she's ain't doing aa work. and even if she was you're saying enty with half the interceptors is better but half the interceptors on lusty is somehow worse?

[zenith heron]

We Currently have Yorktown 2, Laffey 2, and Bismark Zwei on it (despite the latter being unofficial irl)

[tropic tusk]

hammm2 ,hornet 2, Langley 2

im not wrong tho

[storm heron]

when do people use hvar in campaign?

[silk thistle]

Hornet II Is a Essex class tbh

[tropic tusk]

i mean he said we got x x x 2 and he miss like 3 ship

[keen sable]

UR

[tropic tusk]

oh right mb

[zenith heron]

I thought Rockets and Hvars are not that much used in campaign like I said here,

Which is why Fighters with bombs are the staple

Unless I am missing something where they use these just to deal the bosses faster...

[silk thistle]

I'm using The Hellcat with HVAR because I don't have any Golden Hellcats

[zenith heron]

Can you show your current fighters?

[silk thistle]

Wait

[stark quiver]

then get some

[silk thistle]

This is My Current Fighter

[rigid onyx]

oh God

[stark quiver]

[zenith heron]

Seafang can help but damn

[storm heron]

well yeah, when I recommended bfg in campaign back then I literally got bullied, and how is now unique still find use of hvar in campaign

[keen sable]

on what? enterprise? please explain why fighter, dps, dps on enterprise is ok but not on lusty

oh interceptors do dps? that's laughable

[silk thistle]

It's at a low level :(

[keen sable]

what aer you even intercepting in chapter 10 and 11

[storm heron]

cause enterprise just deal more damage than lusty?

[zenith heron]

Upgrade ot if you have enough resources

[stark quiver]

or get some hellcats

[keen sable]

so you'd rather nerf lusty and laugh at how bad she is than use good planes on her?

[silk thistle]

I'm Poor :'

[storm heron]

yeah they do dps

[keen sable]

90% of the campaign is light armoured enemies

[rigid onyx]

using rocket fighters over regular fighters nerfs your overall aa by like 20%

[keen sable]

aer you trying to shoot down your own planes? what is there to even shoot down before 13?

[storm heron]

damn what is gph on recommending rocket fighters pre w12

[silk thistle]

I Have the Corsair, Did it help?

[rigid onyx]

if you're stacked enough that you don't care about planes at all because of power creep who cares

[storm heron]

I swear I tried recommending rocket fighter on campaign before but I just got absolutely bullied

[silk thistle]

Well, Look at this

[keen sable]

this is specifically lusty. i didn't say 2 hvar on her.

[stark quiver]

did i get blocked

[keen sable]

gph is full of sus advice

[stark quiver]

because i swear, i said get some hellcats

why the murmwhat

[keen sable]

and shaming

[silk thistle]

I'm just not lucky, maybe I'll be looking for hellcat later

[storm heron]

so your recommended loadout for lusty? rocket fighter - bomb fighter - tb?

[keen sable]

that's fine for general use. it will certainly kill stuff better than bomb bomb. would i recommend it against taihou? no.

[storm heron]

alright I guess

[zenith heron]

So you generally suggested it before w12-15 then

I see

[keen sable]

again does that lusty look like a w15 lusty?

there's bigger issues than gear using a 106 lusty in 15.

[silk thistle]

This is my campaign Fleet ._. (I can't do an expensive build)

[stark quiver]

that was expensive

[silk thistle]

It's not ._.

[stark quiver]

wheres unicorn

[echo vector]

Any way to farm unique module material beside the weekly 2x ?

[silk thistle]

I don't Use it ._.

[storm heron]

I think cheeky said if you have perseus at high level then unicorn retrofit became on the lower side of priority

[keen sable]

this was never answered. just jumping straight to fixing an unknown problem

[keen sable]

12+

events, etc

[silk thistle]

Honestly, I Just scrapped her before

[zenith heron]

I assume player wants help for said loadout, and said player said its for campaign, but hasn't mentioned what Chapter

[storm heron]

aim to build unicorn next, maybe after perseus is maxed

[dreamy blade]

small chance to get them in clear rewards in ch12+

[echo vector]

Thank you

[dreamy blade]

but main source besides the raid is events and cruise pass

[storm heron]

nah by their ship level clearly it's pre w12

[echo vector]

Thank you

[zenith heron]

may I know what chapter in Campaign are you facing?

[keen sable]

did you buy out the current event shop?

[echo vector]

Of course

[thorn tartan]

How many meta skills can be updated at once?

[silk thistle]

8-3

[echo vector]

Unique module just require too much resources

[viscid swift]

I don't believe there's a limit

[storm heron]

one for each ship

[silk thistle]

This is where my fleet feels so weak

[thorn tartan]

I mean how combat raises levels

[rigid onyx]

... lvl 106 in c8

[keen sable]

that has an unmaxed skill selected

[rigid onyx]

You can just push a lot with pure level advantage

[zenith heron]

well, the planes are not even an issue, so if you want to use an Hvar on Lusty, its alright as long as you know what you are doing...

Might get shitted on this

[stark quiver]

first put your battleship in flag
then use neptune to tank and put jav in middle

[keen sable]

izanami and ikazuchi are light. i mean rem and ram

[rigid onyx]

I mean hvar wouldn't do anything either, lusty would just overkill more

[storm heron]

surely the boss is gonna stand still

[silk thistle]

Will it make a difference to the campaign? (I tried it once, but it's just the same)

[stark quiver]

bros never heard ab bombs missing

[stark quiver]

yes it will

[keen sable]

especially single bb. i did play around with top and bottom bb once upon a time.

[rigid onyx]

just look into a new players guide or something so you can look at general principles

[silk thistle]

I just want all the ships in my Fleet to not sink, because in every campaign I always lose one ship (Maybe Javelin/Dido)

[zenith heron]

~~gn then gph, I might need to sleep bcs my brain fell off ~~

[cobalt gate]

best gear for unicorn for her not to get mvp?

[lucid hamlet]

vanguard ship positioning matters for how much damage is taken

[rigid onyx]

probably no equipment minus a singular gray plane

[cobalt gate]

don't i still want 2 fast planes so she still heals?

[silk thistle]

How to make all of the Vanguard Survived? (I'm tired of getting "Well done")

[storm heron]

1 skyrockets and something lol

[soft raft]

Limit breaks, good gear, and more lvls

[rigid onyx]

well if your ships are level 100+ and they're dying in w8 there's an issue other than gear

[cobalt gate]

skyrocket?

i do messier for figheter but not sure about torpedo

[storm heron]

apparently albacore is the fastest

[lucid hamlet]

neptune front javi middle dido rear maybe?

[silk thistle]

Already Max Limit Break, but i don't have any good gear for Vanguard, so i need to Build my CV ._.

[silk thistle]

I'll try

[lucid hamlet]

neptune should definitely be front because she can tank

[sweet delta]

The answer is don't use unicorn

[storm heron]

just use klaudia

[soft raft]

Or don't give a shit about MVP control in the first place

[viscid swift]

from my thorough and unquestionable tests/s, don't give her any gear at all

[stark quiver]

if u dont like a ship mvping, just neuter them

[rigid onyx]

unless you have all main fleet ships leveled if you need a unicorn carry for leveling just move down to 12-4 or 12-1

[cobalt gate]

well i'm doing 14-1

and yes bascally all mainfleet done

[silk thistle]

Like this?

[stark quiver]

just take out a plane or smth

[cobalt gate]

doesn't taking out a plane cripple her reload speed

[lucid hamlet]

other way around

[stark quiver]

swap neptune and dido

[silk thistle]

Wait

[soft raft]

Leftmost slot is the front/tank spot

[stark quiver]

it also doesnt let her mvp

[cobalt gate]

i mean true

[rigid onyx]

isn't akashi the method if you want to have a healer that doesn't MVP? this is probably wrong I'm not done with main fleet yet

[viscid swift]

even with Akashi you have to neuter her a bit or she risks stealing it in occasion

I have literally seen a deplaned Perseus and Vestal META steal MvP at least once in the experimenting phase, pretty cursed

[stark quiver]

you can turn off cvl offensive tech
and pray it gives your vg the slight edge

[storm heron]

how does one do 14-1 with 3 vanguard ships worse than a uni skyrocket albacore

[rigid onyx]

preloads steal mvp

[vocal adder]

Anyone? 👉 👈
(I'm not very smart when it comes to warships and tanks and allat i just enjoy the game 😭)
Also i couldnt find anything in pins..

[tropic tusk]

if u messed up all it takes is 30 sec to try again

[forest palm]

the answers are in the pins

[silk thistle]

Like this?

[storm heron]

under my message

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[silk thistle]

And may i ask about My dido and Javelin Build? They keep losing their health so much in the Campaign

[vocal adder]

Appreciate it big time 🙏

[viscid swift]

that's what this channel is for

[silk thistle]

I don't have enough Resources, so..

[stark quiver]

Dido runs naval camp/rudder and toolkit
Jav runs double toolkit

[viscid swift]

bleh

[silk thistle]

Can someone help me?

[viscid swift]

gimme one sec

[lucid hamlet]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd?ship=javelin
this can be helpful but there are probably better places to look as well

[silk thistle]

Thank you :D

[lucid hamlet]

you can check your other ships too

[viscid swift]

this is a pretty poverty build barring the obvious so you should easily put it together

also give that a read for future refference
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[lucid hamlet]

somehow I had less than half of those gears when I was on 8-4

ultra poverty

i still only have 1 corsair + pirate squadron

[carmine heath]

this... is poverty?

[viscid swift]

well for some reason they have stuff like 3 unique augments, vit-2 and Pirate while stuck in W8, but everything else barring the event limited stuff is yes

[carmine heath]

???

[lucid hamlet]

i dont even have vit 2 😭

[celest sable]

Is there any reason to use the Map Coordinate loggers in Op-Si?

[storm heron]

it's just what they have

[storm heron]

for gear lab and prototype upgrade materials

and gold plates

[celest sable]

Is it not the same as just clicking a zone on the overview map?

[dreamy blade]

having the loggers make the yellow chest icons on the map appear

clicking the chests on the map is the same thing as using it from your inventory if thats what your asking, entering the "hidden" zone consumes the logger

[celest sable]

Oh ok that makes a lot more sense! Thanks for the explanations

[keen sable]

It is the same as tapping an icon on the map

Sometimes you can't see them and need to use supply

[still nest]

Do we have free rings given on feb 14? I remember back then they gave rings?

[dreamy blade]

1-2 per year

[viscid swift]

one every Anni pretty much and they'll give out more once in a blue moon

[still nest]

Oh thank you

[dreamy blade]

the free ring on valentines isnt guaranteed

the last free ring we got was when they released 3d dorm

[haughty dust]

I clearly don’t have the right gear equipped on her cause she’s taking a lot of damage damage even on 12–4. Any thoughts?

[sweet delta]

Read her third skill

[haughty dust]

yeah, that doesn’t make any sense to me. That’s all Greek to me.

I also don’t see how that is anything to do with why she’s taking so much damage

[ivory pawn]

This is the only part of the description that matters in this case:

While this ship is above 40% HP: grants the "Musashi's Guardianship" status to all your other Main Fleet ships. Ships with this status:

Cause Musashi to be prioritized by enemy attacks if they are both valid targets.

[cobalt gate]

best dd gun for backrow against ramming and suicide?

[sweet delta]

137

[lucid hamlet]

is blucher + jeanne d'arc + san fran a bad idea

im considering for a boss fleet against low torp bosses

[keen sable]

Probably. Seems very pedestrian. Why don't you have anything better?

[lucid hamlet]

i probably do have better ships and I have no idea why i tried to make it work

any recommendations on how to improve it

[eager mulch]

Hindenburg would probably be better than San Fran

[lucid hamlet]

noted

[keen sable]

Some bigger badda boom. Hindy counts. Any cb. Any rainbow.

[cobalt gate]

btw on average how many retrofit we get a year?

[keen sable]

Retrofits / 7

Or 8 maybe?

[cobalt gate]

i see so around 1 every 2 months

[viscid swift]

it's a bit lower than that

we only get retros 4 time a year
LNY, CN Anni, EN Anni, and JP Anni

and if you're lucky you'll see 2 per instance, usually just one

[cobalt gate]

got it guess i'm way overpreparing dupes

[lucid hamlet]

is twin 105 SK C/33 AA a scrap

[keen sable]

I've never scrapped one

[lucid hamlet]

what ships use it

i havnt found one yet

[keen sable]

A ship with aa slot? It's gold aa. I'm sure you can find somewhere for it. If not put it on bismarck and call it history or something

You're saying you only have bis gear? Interesting

[lucid hamlet]

im not saying that, just wondering what ships utilize it better than others

[keen sable]

No one. It's not rainbow.

[sweet delta]

Gold AA is better than purple AA

[glossy granite]

Is it possible to marry a Bullin lol

has someone ever done it

[sweet delta]

It's possible to marry 3000 bulins

[glossy granite]

Marry all your UR bullins fr

[keen sable]

3029??

Actually 3030. Meta can backline in fleet 1.

[charred pollen]

Yes you can oath bulins

[keen sable]

Can meta + 3030 bulin clear 15?

[glossy granite]

I need to farm iron blood xp efficently, what ships should i use and will they be able auto like Chapter 12 or something?

Ik the lvls are a bit questionable but yea

Also ignore lvls and if MLB or not

[ivory pawn]

Levels can be fixed with books. Backline or frontline?

[glossy granite]

To make farming not a torture but good amount of xp

I could maybe do 3 but idk

[ivory pawn]

Why IB in particular?

[silk thistle]

Thanks :D

[glossy granite]

So you dont choose simply cuz of lvls or if they have the stars or not

[keen sable]

What kind of xp

[glossy granite]

Iron blood for research

[ivory pawn]

Stars can be fixed with bulins. It's just, are you farming to unlock someone in the shipyard? Are you farming just because you want to?

[glossy granite]

FDG

[keen sable]

@glossy granite

[glossy granite]

Prob backline then

[keen sable]

Bisko gz tirp probably makes to most sense

[silk thistle]

If I'm not mistaken during Musashi's rerun, I saw a Yamato class Triple gun in the Event Shop?

[glossy granite]

Is bisko the new name for bismack lol

[ivory pawn]

Yes. It's not recommended.

[silk thistle]

Bruh ._.

I just do the same when I don't get the Kronstadt, so i buy her B-50 Gun and Waiting For Her rerun (I get it now)

[haughty dust]

image?

[storm heron]

/wiki triple 460mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_460mm_(Type_94)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(BL_16"_Mk_I)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_410mm_(10th_Year_Type_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_7)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_2)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Model_1940_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mark_D_Mod_0_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mk_6_Prototype)

Feb 11, 2025, 3:23 AM

[glossy granite]

Btw didnt something happen to Mogador when she came out lol

[sweet delta]

Mogador got buffed a few times

[glossy granite]

Damn for what tho

[keen sable]

Dying

[glossy granite]

Do ships even get buffed in the first place? by the devs

Maybe thats why they went all out on Z52 ig

But only god knows when mine will become useable lol

[haughty dust]

@silk thistle This one?

[ivory pawn]

Yes. Again, not recommended.

While it hits hard, it's much, much too slow.

[glossy granite]

Does mogador get used in fleets or she has a nieche spot? so far i havent seen her in many fleets at all

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, which is better?

[little tree]

Mog is a coin toss take it or leave it

[keen sable]

Mog is obsolete currently

[soft raft]

they're roughly equal
tho im questioning why you +11'd the one on the left

[sudden sparrow]

Idk

[silk thistle]

Yea, this one

[keen sable]

she's like rope when w and logos exist

[silk thistle]

What about Improved one?

[keen sable]

Probably not worth it. Ur ca is very abundant

[haughty dust]

So you suggesting to put that on her?

[silk thistle]

Try to put it on

(I'm putting every Event Equipment when it appears on the Shop beside the ships)

Buy the Equipment, Buy/Gacha Until Get The Ship, Put the Equipment

[stark quiver]

460 in campaign is demonic 💀

Just run izumo or daisen

[keen sable]

Usually he is ok. Her barrage just slaughters heavy armor.

[vagrant panther]

Are the T3 Twin 380 SK C that can be farmed with current event any good?

[viscid swift]

No

[stark quiver]

Ngl, if u don’t need too much
Just do dailes, sp and first clear rewards

I’m at 15k with just dailes, 3 days of esp and first clear, did 3 sp4 for blucher and

[eternal moth]

Yep. The 5x bonus gives you A LOT of points

[stark quiver]

I never did it

[lucid hamlet]

just finished exam on the newcomer thing. do i go for sandy? I have all the others

[turbid gyro]

Any reccomndations for the SR DD this month?

[ivory pawn]

Kazagumo if you don't have her yet. Otherwise, just choose a tech option.

[soft raft]

Kazagumo > Allen > Everone else is tech fodder

[turbid gyro]

k thanks

[keen sable]

You're back

[sinful escarp]

i am tech farming rn
is it worth it to retrofit yamashiro and fusou fully?

[stark quiver]

for collection

12-1 is too ez to need retros

[storm heron]

imo no since they can survive, at most you should just retro until the modernization to get the collection+

[sinful escarp]

hmm, okay gotcha

[versed forum]

is this fleet can clear 14-3? have bb problem but hard manual can compensate that

[elfin hollow]

chat I got illustrious on build pool

She's bulk sup. so I felt like I hit a pot o' gold this time

[stark quiver]

withg manual prob
run 155 kai
better gun on wata
secondary healer for mob
db on amagi cv

[hollow gust]

you mean shes useless for 98% of the playerbase

[sinful escarp]

illustrious is more used for support fleet in w15

[stark quiver]

also that list seems kinda eh

[elfin hollow]

d a m n

[viscid swift]

use 155 kais in your BBs as said for one

also drop Helena, she won't really be doing much of value

there's also a lot of minor improvement like an AP gun and Pendenant on Nelson

[stark quiver]

oh i missed that

[viscid swift]

also just a few baffling choices like Breguet on Shinano and Barracuda on Amagi when it should be the other way around and you may as well run a TB in Shinano's first slot if an F6F is the alt

[elfin hollow]

does using lighter vanguard improve speed or I have to upgrade them first to make them faster?

[versed forum]

how about 2nd healer i only have Percy don't have aquila or Volga

[hollow gust]

independence is fine

[rapid grail]

ships have the same amount of speed regardless of limit breaks
only case where you want more speed is by equipping +spd aux gears & beaver (1.2x spd multiplier) or add ships that have good/great speed stat
bcs speed stat for frontline is averaged

[hoary relic]

i got blucher, is she good to invest in for late game?

[sinful socket]

does it also proc on herself ? (Y2)

should I upgrade then ?

[stark quiver]

always

always max skills on ships youll use

[turbid gyro]

Does it matter who you pick for the valentines day secretary gift?

[stark quiver]

theres no gameplay related reward
just a valentine gift, pickwhoever u like

[plain saffron]

you get message from that secretary only

[fickle hollow]

what does the tolls of war debuff do?

[forest palm]

disables ship skills, and gear skills

[fickle hollow]

What happens after i clear the operation siren shop ? does it reset or remains the same until next month

[forest palm]

have you cleared Ch 4?

[fickle hollow]

yes

i cleared 72 zones then have nearly cleared the opsi shop

[forest palm]

that doesn't sound right

[fickle hollow]

[forest palm]

must be the old shop

[sinful escarp]

opsi resets monthly, so after clearing shop just do the missions for meta boss and use up your AP for the random rewards when you clear zones

[stark quiver]

those who know they used the strats 💀

[forest palm]

oh the wiki page is outdated lol

[stark quiver]

wiki shop?
yea horrifically outdated

[river delta]

so in other words both are same except bc and uss bb can only use dd guns

[fickle hollow]

how frequently do strongholds spawn?

[stark quiver]

2 to start the new month
then 1 every monday

[forest palm]

when did you clear ch 4 of ops btw

[plain saffron]

2 on monthly reset, 1 per monday
stack infinitely, 3 shows up at a time on map

[fickle hollow]

i dont remember

[stark quiver]

yk, maybe one day ill find the time to update shop

[plain saffron]

the hardest part is making the template

we already have tab per port, but how you gonna do 10 secured,20,30,40

[forest palm]

if you have the newer shop then it only resets once a month, and you won't be able to clear it

certainly not in 11 days either

[stark quiver]

by updating shop, dont you js need to add new images and values for items

[wary skiff]

bowgun or sword for augments generally? i need to make 1 for nj mainly

[stark quiver]

sword

[fickle hollow]

is it worth to buy stuff from Gibraltar after i finish St.Petersburg

[forest palm]

you shouldn't be buying everything in the shop la

[stark quiver]

if u wanna sure

[fickle hollow]

I have clearled NY city and Liverpool

[forest palm]

what a waste la

[stark quiver]

one you have like too many vouchers, do w/e u want lol

[forest palm]

eh...

[stark quiver]

eh...?

[forest palm]

rather just stack vouchers

[fickle hollow]

Then what are the things i should buy?

[storm heron]

anything but the full complete repair pack torpedo meta enhance material

[stark quiver]

things u need

[forest palm]

you can just avoild Tuners, Repair Kits, and Meta Skill Book

[stark quiver]

oh wait i get what you mean now
cant you just put it all there, so theres at least something to go off of?

[fickle hollow]

action point boxes?

[plain saffron]

i guess

[stark quiver]

i just gotta find out how to change images
and itll be smooth sailing

[forest palm]

do not buy the following...

• Energy Storage Devices
• Tuning Samples
• Special Tokens
• Meta Skills Books
• Repair Packs
  you can cut out more things depending on your needs, but these are all just a waste of time

[plain saffron]

to get the icon id look in item_data_statictics iirc

[carmine heath]

I dont think special toxens are that bad? they're a 1:1 trade

[storm heron]

you got so much special tokens anyway

[carmine heath]

[plain saffron]

i buy special token to buy other useful item

[forest palm]

which is exactly why you don't buy them because they are 1:1

[storm heron]

waste of time, as said

[plain saffron]

more like converting currency to me

well there's situation where it's not waste of time

[storm heron]

idk if I will call meta books waste of time though

[plain saffron]

end of month, doesn't do everything, i would rather get gold mats than voucher

[forest palm]

usually I have everything I need by end of month

[sharp socket]

if you like some meta ships you can buy stuff for them

[plain saffron]

i buy them so i don't need to change my fleet and use them in opsi

[forest palm]

that's what my 4th fleet is for

[fickle hollow]

will boss nodes also spawn like strongholds?

[stark quiver]

no, they arent time gated

[storm heron]

wait what does stack infinitely means

[fickle hollow]

[stark quiver]

it just stacks

[fickle hollow]

I need 1 more UR Plane design to craft my 1st wyvern

[storm heron]

does that mean there's no trashed stronghold?

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

no overcap?

[stark quiver]

only ap overcaps in ops

[fickle hollow]

is there a way to obtain C6 Siren loggers?

[stark quiver]

yes

new york shop and voucher shop
also star missions
along with rng drops

[wary skiff]

ur event date announced yet?

[sinful socket]

can I skip Brunhilde ?

[stark quiver]

+1 bb fp
skippable unless u wnat collection/tech

[sinful socket]

okok

btw the +1 bb fp applies to all bb or just the IB ones ?

[stark quiver]

all bb

bb,bc,bbv
info can be found in wiki

[dusky cedar]

what planes should i put on york2 for w15

2x flapjack and tenrai?

[eternal basalt]

It's not announced, but it's the 27th

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

wait mori literally just means forest

[plain saffron]

forestforest

[storm heron]

reward for answering the lantern is fixed and does not depend on which question you choose to answer right?

[tender girder]

do u guys ever put in a maxed out character in the farming team... just to keep them alive?
for instance i have unicorn in my farming team... she's maxed... and i'm not sure if i an switch her out or not. i think she's the main reason the team is still alive..?

[storm heron]

we try not to put maxed out character if possible

[keen sable]

i'm lazy and put unicorn even though I have klaudia

[eternal basalt]

I got Sandy in my 13 HARD team

Do you got Zuhou? She's also good at keeping people alive, if you still need to level her

[tender girder]

no zuhou, only shouhou

[storm heron]

where are you farming?

[nimble knoll]

Does Uni's Heal Scale with her gear too or only the skills lvl?

I see

[eternal basalt]

"of its max HP."
So you can boost it by buffing her HP... somehow (or does that mean target HP?)

[shell willow]

target hp

[tender girder]

12-1

[wind hazel]

you can remove unicorn as long as your ships aren't really terrible

[tender girder]

i can pass 12-2, but on boss stage i get A grade, bc someone on VG always die

about to try to push to 12-4

[wind hazel]

are you solo fleeting?

[tender girder]

no, i have a mob fleet and boss fleet

[storm heron]

what do you use

[wind hazel]

ye what are you using on boss fleet?

[tender girder]

here's my farming & bossing fleet.
(mainly trying to farm combat experience for FDG)

[wind hazel]

fu shun dying?

[tender girder]

helena dying... she's not retrofitted yet

[wind hazel]

unexpected

[tender girder]

so her EVA is pretty low..

[wind hazel]

what aux are you running on helena

[wind hazel]

try moving odin to boss, ark royal to mob

[storm heron]

are you sure you are farming for FdG? Cause I only see Odin there

[tender girder]

i have 1 gold EVA aux. but it's equipped on sandy

[wind hazel]

also yeah this exp grind is very inefficient

[tender girder]

Odin, Z1, Z23

[wind hazel]

that's not how CDC works, FDG wants main fleet exp

[tender girder]

fml

[wind hazel]

only Odin is contributing, so it's 1/3

[tender girder]

nooooooOOOoooOooooo LOLLLL

i mean, i don't even have 3 main fleet KMS... i guess i'll need to use Gneisenau??

[wind hazel]

two options,
get scharnhorst too, and grind at 11-1 or 11-4
or odin+gnei+unicorn at 12-1

is that sandy retrofit?

[tender girder]

yeah, sandy is maxed retrofitted and maxed augment

[wind hazel]

i think triple BB with sandy retro should be doable at 12-1 safe

[tender girder]

now... hwo to get scharnhorst ...

[nocturne glade]

is Z52 worth 125ing?

[wind hazel]

core data or divergent chessboard

[storm heron]

try to see your shop, maybe you have Iron Blood BB

[tender girder]

nope. this month was DD and CL

[storm heron]

also I smell something whaly on the Odin :sniff: :sniff:

[tender girder]

yeh, i whaled for odin 🙂

[storm heron]

unfortunate. Well you have multiple options since odin and gnes gonna store 2.2M exp each

[tender girder]

best stage to farm scharnhorst in war archive is divergent chess D2 i imagine?

[storm heron]

eh nvm just get scarn and grind, otherwise gonna be too slow and painful

[storm heron]

D4

[nocturne glade]

is the best way to get 60k gold just to auto 12-4? iirc X-4 was the best for gold and X-1 was the best for exp?

[tender girder]

i alrady did 60 runs there...

[storm heron]

idk actually D2 then sure because less oil

[wind hazel]

low oil b3 🧠

[storm heron]

yeah or that

[rapid grail]

yes
to add, x-1 starting from w12 is also best for cog chip rate for that world. matters if you going to raise fleet tech and you'll need about a million of these or so

[keen sable]

Time to get kgv then

[storm heron]

halford or 1h?

[slow fox]

Rigging Analysis

[crimson glacier]

you dont have that much gold so id only get halford if you dont have her at 30 and you really reallly want to

[storm heron]

aight gear it is

[silent latch]

who to buy

[dreamy blade]

enterprise

[plain saffron]

enterprise

[silent latch]

ok

[faint cloud]

Will these map tasks and rewards still available in a rerun that had cleared before , haven't experienced yet

[dreamy blade]

yes, the event rn has them and is a rerun

oh wait youre asking if you can get them again, then no

[wind hazel]

you can cant you?

[faint cloud]

Wait then what abt those vouchers

[wind hazel]

you don't even need to clear them again, it's just gonna be completed right off the bat and you can claim it day 0

[dreamy blade]

oh for some reason i thought you were asking about the 3* rewards

[wind hazel]

yes we're talking about the 3* rewards... aren't we?

[dreamy blade]

i dont know anymore

[wind hazel]

if you 3* an event, you will be able to claim it again on its rerun

whatever you did on original run will be saved on rerun, so if you 3* it before, you can claim it straight away on rerun

[dreamy blade]

oh i thought progress carried over but didnt know this

it's just gonna be completed right off the bat and you can claim it day 0

[viscid horizon]

Upgrading dorm train slot is worth or no?

[wind hazel]

4th slot and above are completely optional

[dreamy blade]

if you are f2p it's not worth besides unlocking 2nd floor

[wind hazel]

4th is still ok, 5th getting a bit not worth territory, 6th slot is not f2p recommended

[dreamy blade]

the 4th slot is relatively cheap so if you farm a lot and want to cycle morale more efficiently then it's a good buy

[oak girder]

Event ends next reset or the one after?

[lavish dirge]

can i pass esp with this i don't want to waste oil

[wind hazel]

it's overkill

[lavish dirge]

esp isn't the hardest one right

[wind hazel]

it's the SP standard

next is EX

[lavish dirge]

Oh ok i got confused

[wind hazel]

you can use musashi+kron, zwei+agir, it will win just fine

-# or go even cheaper

[sharp socket]

unicorn + tai yuan solo

+URs on other fleet for crossfleet

[lavish dirge]

i don't need to defeat all enemies for 3* right

[wind hazel]

no star rewards for ESP

[night totem]

Is this thing any good

[wind hazel]

for pvp

[night totem]

I see

Is the daisen gun better than izumo gun on sushi?

[plain saffron]

or budget 457mm i guess but you rarely uses it

[wind hazel]

better for timing purposes

[night totem]

Hmm alright, thxx

[dreamy blade]

can confirm, i do uni+fushun and my fushun is only lv96 i just full fleet the boss tho

is it worth it to farm enough points to buy the pr5 prints from the event shop (for protocore)

[eternal basalt]

Wait for the 20th with gear stuff, more's a coming

[wind hazel]

do you still need protocore?
yes>yes
no>no

[lavish dirge]

I need some help with EX i don't remember this game 😭

[wind hazel]

do you have eldridge and laffey2

[lavish dirge]

only laffey 2 but she is not built

[wind hazel]

have fun manual

[dreamy blade]

what about jda

[lavish dirge]

Nope

[wind hazel]

no eldridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQk3neiocjI
super 🕹️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQ331JNmXQ

[lavish dirge]

is jda Jeanne d'arc if so she is built

[dreamy blade]

yes

the gimick is basically just make your vg survive until your mainfleet can kill on 2nd strike, and boss has 999 hit so evasion doesnt work

[lavish dirge]

i did it

A or S clear doesn't matter right

[wind hazel]

ye dont matter

unless you're rank chaser

[zenith dust]

is there a way to gain the crystals to Limitbreak Hatakaze-Meta? Have not played in a while so idk what has been changed

[honest vector]

Meta shop?

[atomic abyss]

They will be added to the meta shop at a later date

[zenith dust]

alright! thanks!

[coarse lantern]

shinano or nj dupe?

[zenith heron]

Shinano is top priority in every way, unless she is Maxed Limit Broken

[subtle cloud]

Rerun gun worth getting? If so, where do I use it?

[wind hazel]

on your CA, before you transition into UR CA guns

[subtle cloud]

awesome thanks a lot

It’s among the best gold CA guns then I guess?

[wind hazel]

it's the best gold AP CA gun

[nimble knoll]

Is Retro Sandy Better than Retro Starters, Or is she only used for AA?

[wind hazel]

how many times you wanna ask this question...

[atomic abyss]

significantly, especially with her augment
it isnt even a competition

[tulip zenith]

How many event stages are there

[wind hazel]

4+sp+ex

[fickle hollow]

At what time of the year is the new PR season released ?

[boreal wagon]

around July usually

[vernal summit]

So uhhh is there a way I can change this to Taihou META?

[faint cloud]

@boreal wagon a typo?

[boreal wagon]

i can spell

[boreal wagon]

only the blue coordinates are for taihou meta
and to fight the blue meta you have to not have an active orange meta (aka you have to defeat helena first)

[sinful escarp]

defeat that helena boss and go back

[vernal summit]

Thank you

[vernal summit]

[carmine heath]

is avrora worth investing into?

[soft raft]

Eh not really

[forest palm]

+1 FP

[muted ember]

what makes the Twin 203mm SKC (Improved) good?

[sudden sparrow]

High amount of damage for a CA gun (I guess)

[sinful escarp]

its in the name, its improved

[soft raft]

it's a direct upgrade of this gun which is considered one of the most acessible CA guns early game

[muted ember]

neat

[rapid grail]

pretty good for certain content but it is hard to justify her usage
use if you want big damage numbers on the frontline and that she survives

[muted ember]

should I put it on my Anchorage or a more DPS focused CA?

[rapid grail]

said damage number farming also tends to be a late-game/end-game endeavor so i wouldn't justify raising her up atm

especially if you have an account that needs consolidating good ships and gear

[wind hazel]

shit wrong ch

[late flame]

for a moment i legit wondered if tewi is a new shipfu
also it would be a dream to get touhou x AL collab

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter cuz all the top gold CA guns are roughly the same

[forest palm]

afaik the Improved 203 SKC should be one of the best SSR AP CA guns you can get, the thing is though you start to get into UR CA guns and the value plummets

[carmine heath]

what does ssr mean? Ive seen it used a lot

[forest palm]

It's just a rarity, the localization choose to use SR for SSR, and Elite for SR, it's just standard gacha rarities

[carmine heath]

common -> rare -> super rare -> Super super rare?

With super rare being converted into elite?

[boreal wagon]

thats what CN and JP use yes
yes

[carmine heath]

[forest palm]

• C → Common
• UC → Uncommon
• R → Rare
• SR → Super Rare
• SSR → Special Super Rare
• UR → Ultra Rare

[muted ember]

how good is Kronshtadt again?

[forest palm]

she's a highly competent tank like all the other CBs, she doesn't uniquely do any one thing better that's desirable, but she's good none the less

[molten zinc]

basically stats stick

[forest palm]

considering she's a tank, more like meat shield

[muted ember]

I'm guessing cause she's a russian ship I'll need to use russian guns on her?

[forest palm]

yes but not because she's Russian, but because her skill requires one

[muted ember]

does it need to be full Russian or just 1

[atomic abyss]

just 1

[forest palm]

read

it's right there

[muted ember]

another question,once I'm done researching FdG what shipyard ship should I research next(I already have Anchorage)

[soft raft]

Uncommon?

[muted ember]

hey wait a minute,I've never seen an UC ship

[boreal wagon]

there is no UC in azur lane, he just listed what common gacha abbrvs mean

[muted ember]

ahhhh,alright

[wind hazel]

undercover

[keen sable]

z52?

[uneven cave]

This fleet's having trouble killing taihou meta in 1 go, what can I change

[muted ember]

? Z52 is a UR

[worldly pewter]

do u freez reliably ?

[uneven cave]

ofc

[worldly pewter]

well i think it is better to use the soyuz tech and get more damage from the vanguards

[uneven cave]

and what, remove amagi or shinano?

[worldly pewter]

amagi but again ur vanguards are very weak with that gear

i personally used the ijn trio with eld and it could do it

[atomic abyss]

remove shinano not amagi lol

soy nakh amagi kaza helena
could even throw in unzen for last slot lol

[rapid grail]

a third ur aa gun on voro, don't need to +13 it. will help with flyswatting taihou's planes. or can consider sextuple on helena and give the ur aa to voro

you may want to manual instead, but people gonna lynch me for providing manual advice lul

[atomic abyss]

also im fairly sure voro has better AA than kaza

[uneven cave]

exactly, why the fuck would i ask for manual

lemme switch things around first

Would Soyuz be best with 460 and hpfcr

[atomic abyss]

wouldnt sync with oath nakhi lol

even with loader

[worldly pewter]

i thought mamagi was used for 4 strikes that is why faer yesterday changed sinano with her

[atomic abyss]

use champy or soyuz gun

and cut your BB rld tech instead

amagi outright does more damage than shinano tho

also

swapping out amagi in that case means you're forced to bring another sakura in the vanguard

[uneven cave]

So that's why I see people bringing Unzen

[wide bramble]

Hey guys quick gear question -

I keep seeing that the purple Twin 410mm purple gun is good for BBs when you don't have the eagle union UR BB guns avaiable.

But there is a sr version of the gun in the gear lab that loads "Beehive"(?) ammo I guess. Is it never listed as an option anywhere on gear guides because of that ammo type?

[atomic abyss]

so you're just swapping out voro for sth else

[atomic abyss]

cos it's absurdly shit due to the ammo type yes

[wide bramble]

I had a feeling it was cause the ammo sucked. Just wanted to confirm xD

[atomic abyss]

it just breaks up into a million pieces and does no dmg

[wide bramble]

Appreeeciate it. I was really confused when I saw that ammo type, haven't seen it anywhere else

[rapid grail]

this is how you brick your account, losing 21 hard earned electronics. they're rare because so many good gearlab gear want it

[uneven cave]

Would Z52 be the best option for 3rd van, or Helena

[rapid grail]

z52 for consistency
helena if you want to luck out on kills sometimes

[atomic abyss]

if you lack unzen
then use amagi with helena and z52 🔥

[wide bramble]

Oh yeah no I never spend the SR stuff unless I know the gear is worth it

[uneven cave]

am I missing something, cause I thought it'd be Unzen Helena/Z52 Kaza

[rapid grail]

good, you should be aware on the good investments for your account

[turbid marsh]

its unzen/z52 + helena kaza pretty sure

[cobalt rapids]

z52 replaces unzen not helena
if u use helena u use her together with kazagumo and z52
if no helena then its z52 kaza unzen

[wide bramble]

That gun was mostly curiosity anyways, since I'll be using electronics for the eagle union UR guns instead

[worldly pewter]

not even the mk7 have ur priority imo

[atomic abyss]

unzen gets buffed by amagi too

[wide bramble]

I mean, I have 1 mk7 on NJ and I have the twin 457s on Biscuit 2, I'm not sure what UR gear in the lab to go for next

I'm lacking in BB guns but I'm also lacking in UR planes

[atomic abyss]

wyvern is always prio for UR gear
above all else

at least 2, ideally 3

[wide bramble]

ah gotcha, it's just that good?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[worldly pewter]

at least 3 ideally 6

[atomic abyss]

no lol

[wide bramble]

We a little ways off... I've cleared out the St. Peterserburg shop in OpSi this reset so and have been slamming out the siren coordinate logs

[atomic abyss]

crafting 6 wyverns before any other rainbow gear is a waste of mats

[worldly pewter]

having 1 in mob and 2 in boss for campaign is good though

[atomic abyss]

also consider tenrai may use the same mats

[rapid grail]

2 is bare minimum nowadays, can jus buy breguets from the core data shop, they're good. and even if you won't buy breguets, the gold barracuda will work just fine w/ not much issues

[bright chasm]

Is the 2-1 stage still worth grinding today with oil cap or useless?

[atomic abyss]

useless

[bright chasm]

okay

[rapid grail]

no lol, nowadays it's extremely lategame tech. and even then 3-4 might be better for that

[atomic abyss]

no, c1 farming would be better at that point

[worldly pewter]

isn't low oil 13-1 the late game grind ?

[atomic abyss]

it depends

[wide bramble]

thankfully I have 1 tenrai from the exchange shop

[cobalt rapids]

neither

[worldly pewter]

3 is the aim

[rapid grail]

low oil 13-1 got shafted by the oilcap update imo

[atomic abyss]

13 if you need chips and coins
12 if you need exp and lower tier parts

[bright chasm]

Im asking since I have been grinding 12-4 nonstop for 2 weeks and am on my last 10k oil lol

[atomic abyss]

you grind 12-4 for exp and coins

2-1 is not gonna provide either of those, even back then

[wide bramble]

BBs I have a decent grasp on how to use but I've mostly been afk farming the game for a year without actually diving into harder content, so I have a bunch of stuff and a bunch of exp books/levels galore but I have no knowledge on carrier usage in the game

[bright chasm]

So I need a way to recover the oil

[atomic abyss]

opsi

[rapid grail]

you get used to it for 3 years at the very least

[worldly pewter]

i heard people who are capped on exp and still missing cog chips have to low oil 13-1

[wide bramble]

Like I have all of this and no idea how to use them 😅

[rapid grail]

that's 15-1 with a full fleet + 2/3 leveling ships

[bright chasm]

already fully finished and no activity points anymore 💀

[worldly pewter]

0 leveling ships situation

[atomic abyss]

then touch grass

[cobalt rapids]

13-1 low oil has best cog income but usually people who can afford to throw there oil there for the marginal cog chip increase dont care about the marginal cog increase anymore

[bright chasm]

probably what I need lmao

[atomic abyss]

you're gonna run out of morale before oil

[rapid grail]

its because chips are the higher priority for those kinds of players

[worldly pewter]

marginal

[cobalt rapids]

yea its marginal

[worldly pewter]

🚮

[cobalt rapids]

what did u expect

[rapid grail]

also its good way to pad cmdr lvl but that is outside the scope of this discussion

[worldly pewter]

something worth doing i guess

[wide bramble]

What's an ideal amount of 125s to have?

I have an ass load of chips and 20 125s 😐

I mean obv you want everything to be 125 eventually but what is the point where you're "stable" I guess

[worldly pewter]

u don't want everything at 125 TBH

[turbid marsh]

ideal amount is what you use for main campaign, opsi, meta boss, and nurse ships....

[zenith heron]

Just 125 those that are deemed usable

[cobalt rapids]

theres no ideal number of 125s to have, because meta changes all the time
and 125 is rly reserved for the meta ships for the hardest ( and sometimes most pointless ) content like showdown oneshotting or ch15

[wide bramble]

feel like I get more chips than I can get ships to 120

[zenith heron]

Powercrept, and sad ones don't deserve as much

[bright chasm]

I only 125 all URs and those I use a lot or have oathed

[wide bramble]

So would this be a lot of chips or low?

I basically afk'ed the game for a year and only logged in daily to do the daily raids and in port chores

[zenith heron]

Seems alright, but many have more

Considering some use 75 cog arrays, and other use 125 or more per ship

[cobalt rapids]

they can disappear in a snap, depends how much u play the game
if you dont care about tech farming then they will last you a long time

[rapid grail]

dw about the low amount of botes at lvl 125, really it's resource issue so don't be hardpressed to compete in lvl 125s

really it makes sense to raise your best ships to lvl 125 for them to deal more dmg and survive more against the hardest threats you focus against. mostly bosses in different scenarios
also you can lvl 125 your waifus because you may like them, or whatever. not everything has to be meta-minded and it is totally fine to indulge in some waifu enjoyment once in a while

[wide bramble]

I think my main goal/struggle right now is building a 3rd and 4th fleet for Op Si arbiter - I struggle building something without using Unicorn, San Fran, Aquila or Theseus that can survive without their healing

[cobalt rapids]

boss fleets in opsi do not use healing

[wide bramble]

So healing should be reserved for mobbing?

[zenith heron]

Heal is generated to become damage at boss fights than actual healing

[cobalt rapids]

the idea is to build synergistic fleets that deal the most amount of dmg so you can kill the harbiter
putting a healer with no dmg and surv support when a good picked vanguard otherwise does not need it is just anti synergistic

[undone plover]

Similar to gold plates
Any strat to squeeze extra to the baseline is very smol gains
The best method to have more resources is to be careful how you use them

[turbid marsh]

if you have 500 + 120 ships, then sure, that's considered a lot

[wide bramble]

Do you guys bother redeploying when you go to do the arbiter or do you leave 1 fleet as a mob fleet and use the 3 others for the boss?

I only have 4 fleets which I assume is max, and currently need all 4 to clear norm arbiter and about 70% of harbiter

[zenith heron]

Mostly its just 1 mob then 3 boss fleets as the staple

If you can't build 3 boss fleets, the 4th fleet can be used as a Support/Barrage Fodder

[cobalt rapids]

well what i do doesnt matter, if ur account is strong enough to take hard arbiter with less than 4 fleets then go ahead and leave the mob untouched
otherwise feel free to use ur 4th fleet slot to repurpose mob for a boss fight once per month and not miss the rewards

[rapid grail]

the tryhards may tell you it's low but it's really on how you use them, depends on you leveling a lot of ships at once will wear down the cog chips a lot. that is what they mean by "low amount of cogs"

one good play to make is to raise ships with lower rarity but good fleet tech to lvl 120, because they spend less cogs than sr and ur ships do while also strengthening your account. you may consult this wiki page right here: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Level_120_Stat_Bonuses
another one is to start farming 12-1 and any other stage onwards for a source of cog chips. it's going to be a balancing act in the long term so enjoy it while you still can. i would recommend to plan the ships and/or fleet tech you're going to raise to lvl 120 onwards so that you won't be in much of a pinch later on if you care about progression in the game

[wide bramble]

this is probably a dumb question then, but I assume this is a lot of wasted firepower?

since I have unicorn and they're mobbing 😐

[undone plover]

Cog chip income is around 20-24k per month depending on events
Whether u consider that low or not is up to you

[rapid grail]

way overkill on a mob fleet, too weak and varied for a boss fleet

[zenith heron]

Zwei in mob is weird tbf...
Rest is doable but still questionable

Looks like a Thread to use to help fleet building in OpSi

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur other fleets
if your other fleets are weaker then yes u are wasting firepower due to not putting high dmg dealers like bis, and fritz together with stronger buffers in other fleets
and wasting buffs from z52 on unicorns low dmg

[wide bramble]

I think that's one of my biggest issus right now, the only synergy I know of is Fritz and her bonus to targets being pulled working with Biscuit2's pull. Other than them I don't know how to synergize well and use vanguard tanks

[zenith heron]

Usually, Mob Fleets are for fast clearing only, while the bosses deal a lot of damage at single targets mostly...

Which is why you see Musashi put mostly at Mob Fleet due to her really good Barrage compared to the likes of Zwei, where her kink is the Blackhole that sucks enemies and her strong Shelling that is good against bosses

[wide bramble]

woah Musashi is a mobber? 😐 She's one of the few URs I haven't gotten yet, I would not have expected one of the two 460mm real life girls to be a mobber...

[zenith heron]

Also forgot Mob fleet is created to endure all mobs, and Bosses if its strong enough...

[wind hazel]

UR BBs are good everywhere

[cobalt rapids]

that is abit of trap
while technically it works and they may benefit of each other with good sync ( a little )
u could potentially gain more by pairing them in higher synergy fleets, like where u have mono hull buffers, dmg type specific debuffs like armor break and where bis herself can potentially buff other ships paired with her by alot which is usually other bbs because syncing bismarck with carriers is abit harder

[rigid onyx]

IDT musashi is preferred for mobbing over biszwei because of barrage differential as the major factor

[wide bramble]

So is it worth building fleets with URs that are same faction? Like an Iron Blood fleet since I know URs usually buff ships of their own faction

or are those buffs not usually worth building a whole fleet around it

[cobalt rapids]

no, faction fleets are just a self imposed handicap
if they happen to be of the same factions or if a ship has faction requirements and you can fill them with the minimum amount of ships from that faction and they are also providing value then its good

[wide bramble]

gotcha, so like Essex's 4-Eagle Union requirement (not that she's good for harbiter, but yeah)

[rigid onyx]

Building faction fleets is a huge trap, but it is advantageous to leverage some buffs or activate some skills (i.e. Yorkii or shinano 3 ship requirements)

Essex specifically IDT is strong enough that the limitations it imposes is a bit too great

[cobalt rapids]

yea but essex herself isnt good and her uss req buff is even more ignorable in opsi
but something like shinano where she wants 3 ijn ships to provide big buffs on the other hand is usually filled when ure using her because of the potency of the buff while also there being good ijn ships that usually fill that criteria and benefit of each other ( e.g the other rainbow ijn cvs, unzen )

[wide bramble]

So like pairing Amagi CV, Unzen and either Shima or Haky? 3 CVs I'd assume isn't ideal

Sakura is also my weakest "big" faction, I definitely have way more for eagle union, iron blood and royal navy

[rigid onyx]

For opsi 3 cv bossing is actually fairly standard. (either 3cv, 3bb except for cases like soyuz or kear) because of the lack of suicide boats actually pressuring in a way that matters

shinano and amagi cv are also the buddy buddy duo that buff each other, and you run a 3rd stop cv and then in your vanguard you usually run kazagumo, unzen or both

[fickle hollow]

would the Bow augment be good against Taihou Meta ?

[cobalt rapids]

well shinano counts herself in her 3 sakura requirements so u only need 2 more
amagi is stronger than haku
and unzen can benefit of amagi and is the upgraded shima version with guns
haku can go ofc and be buffed by both nano and amagi and she is strong herself but then ull need a hail merry for your carrier ordnance to hit or you use a slow support in the vanguard but the only real good one there is eldridge and shes not enough in some cases

[wide bramble]

Would Implac be a good combo with that? I forget if she has a slow or stop

[soft raft]

it's a freeze yee

[cobalt rapids]

its fine
theres planes to kill but without an intercepting plane who knows by which airstrike ull activate
but running 1 scepter on ur fastest carrier and the other bows is fine

[wide bramble]

oh I didn''t realize that, is that the case for all ship-count requirements? they count themselves in the fleet?

[soft raft]

Yes unless explicitly stated otherwise

[wide bramble]

that makes so much more sense

[cobalt rapids]

if the description doesnt explicitly states shes excluded they usually count themselves yea

[rigid onyx]

I think there's some skills that are worded as 'other ships' but I may be wrong

[wide bramble]

I always thought it was crazy that some ships would require a total of like 5 same factions ships including themselves, makes sense that its effectively the # -1

[zenith dust]

just got 75% on 15-1, although the clears have been a bit too close for my liking. I have not played for a long time so I do not have any "new" ships.
The most recent event I played was Yorktown II when she released, have her at 116. Anything after that I don't have or at low level.

My current problem is Musashi dying sometimes.
I did not play much OPSI and have not done research so what gear you see is likely around the best I have, one flapjack is on Support fleet which is Lusty (double Messerschmitt), Bunker Hill and Enty. (Sky Pirate).

Brest UR gun is not in Fleet builder, neither are the Augments for Shangri-La and Sandy.

[cobalt rapids]

the gear is not good

[runic bluff]

what is this scan and resend in the valentines gift??

[cobalt rapids]

the comps can be better and you should have some better ships than noshi and stuff by w15

[rigid onyx]

with Aquila uni id swap nj and musashi to star, and center both

[zenith dust]

Dock with ships

[cobalt rapids]

in case you deleted your valentine mail

[runic bluff]

does that only work on like 2023 valentines gift???

I dont understand why I have the 1st valentines mail from dido since I started playing weeks before 4th anni

[keen sable]

yes and so is kron

[tulip zenith]

For haku mob should I go for the slash barrage

With double tb

Actually new question what is the best plane type for mob

[wind hazel]

typical fighter db parallel tb

[dawn ledge]

Is blucher worth mlb

[keen sable]

do you need her?

[dawn ledge]

I have her so i can max limit break her

[zenith heron]

Gameplay wise, she's mid to below average

[soft raft]

more like what other CAs do you have?

[keen sable]

or who would she replace?

[soft raft]

wouldnt exactly say that she's mid mid but definetly more along the lines of average

[dawn ledge]

I want to replace roon muse

[keen sable]

not worth it

[soft raft]

^
tho at the same time Roon Muse is a bit of a wasteful purchase

[zenith heron]

Sorry, its just my definition of doable, but better options exist...

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[dawn ledge]

Not that much

[soft raft]

yeah she aint gon do shit
tech fodder at that point

[dawn ledge]

Got it

[turbid dawn]

Is Exeter the worst SR in this game? Trying to level her up, her damage is worse then elite ships and she is one the squishiest ships I've ever used, I have to keep her in the middle of the vang with TB+rudder and she still is the only 1 who dies sometimes. I thought Tempesta ships would've had this crown but I could at least level a fleet full of them in 12-4 without issue

[atomic abyss]

exeter is an elite tho

unless you retro her

and no even bulins aside she is far from the worst SR

you are doing something very wrong if she's the "squishiest ship you've ever used"

cos even one of the DDGs is frailer

also, the tempestas are actually fairly tanky lol

[turbid dawn]

What SRs would you say are worse then her then? Because holy, she can't even out damage a 1 plane Langley or a Kasumi

[atomic abyss]

THAT'S YORK

[turbid dawn]

What did I say?

[atomic abyss]

exeter

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I meant York lol I'm dumb

[atomic abyss]

still not that much frailer

also, they are base rarity elites who have gotten retros

in terms of base rarity SRs, hermione and charybdis are by far the worse

secondly, im fairly sure kasumi meta is one of the better elites...

langley's dmg is being inflated by fighter anti air

also im willing to bet the york is underlevelled, which is why she's dying

[turbid dawn]

I only had a Ryuseei on her because I forgot I took the fighter off her lol

[shell willow]

can u show gears, levels and what boss you are hitting?

[atomic abyss]

wait that's langley 2?

so she's being buffed massively by yk2

[turbid dawn]

This is what I'm running

[atomic abyss]

well her second skill is level 1
that explains a lot

second skill buffs her damage quite substantially
not that she's a good DPS by any means but yeah

[turbid dawn]

I mean it only increases her ghost gun crit rate by a bit right? And that seems to do 0 dmg

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I'd gain an extra 30% crit rate and less dmg from bombing ships and HE (which I don't believe she's dying to, it's just the torpedoes from the 12-4 boss)

[atomic abyss]

regardless, you are putting things against york's favour

choukai literally does not move, so kasumeta torps wont miss

[turbid dawn]

How bad is this ghost gun she gets?

[nimble knoll]

In terms of Dmg, Is A +10 Gold Hellcat Better than a +10 purple Corsair?

[atomic abyss]

negligible difference

[atomic abyss]

better than most CAs without an actual secondary

which is to say meh, but not useless

york kai is a bad ship, and you are putting her in a place where she's just not gonna perform

langley 2, hornet 2 are both being massively buffed by yk2
they are also getting extra damage from killing planes

if you think she's the "worst SR"
you just havent seen how bad other SRs are

as for tempestas
all the vanguard tempestas are actually fairly tanky

[turbid dawn]

Fu-shun is on another level I know that, but I swear I've had less issue with some of the commons being retro-ed into rares then this, or maybe I just had less expectation because lower rarity

[atomic abyss]

hind and galley are already noticeably tankier than port kaid

[solid hedge]

Hi, how many rainbow plane Tenrai is enough for endgame?

[atomic abyss]

fancy beats some CBs in terms of tankiness

the damage is where the tempestas are lacking, at least for the non-sub ones

[soft raft]

2-3 is enough
any more than that is a luxury

Same goes for pretty much every other relevant UR gear

[atomic abyss]

3 for IJN CV comp

[nimble knoll]

What does Luck Do tho?

[turbid dawn]

I mean yeah I feel like the biggest issue is if you're running 6 of them is 0 AA

[atomic abyss]

affects accuracy and crit checks

[shell willow]

increase hitrate and critrate

[vast sparrow]

What is this website? Looks different from wiki

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/

[nimble knoll]

Wait, Can CV/CVL's Crit? (Or Can every ship crit?)

[atomic abyss]

every ship can crit

[boreal wagon]

every ship can crit

[solid hedge]

Tks, also old rainbow ca gun from pr3 is worth to get 3?

[atomic abyss]

no

hindy and drake gun are more or less exchangeable for most intents and purposes

[soft raft]

note that I said relevant
Which the Triple 234 hasnt been relevant for a good while

[atomic abyss]

unless there is an ammo specific requirement

[solid hedge]

Last question..
How many rainbow fighter from pr7 need for endgame?
I saw someone from world chat said 6

[soft raft]

definetly not 6
2-3 like I said before

[rigid onyx]

You 'need' 0, but 2-4 is the number that comps will use

[turbid marsh]

probably 2-4

[solid hedge]

Alright, many thanks

[shell willow]

dont people run double fighter slot cvs for medium ideally? why 2-3 lol

[stark quiver]

you want 4

[nimble knoll]

Wait, can u get almost all the ships from the event build? Just not UR's right? (And ships that haven't been added to the pool)

[soft raft]

that's not how it works

what your CVs run varies heavily based off of context

[forest palm]

Nothing interesting in JP patch notes?

[nimble knoll]

Is Volga Gud?

[soft raft]

one of the best secondary healers in the game

[nimble knoll]

Who's better, Aquila or Her?

[rigid onyx]

I mean the number I've seen before is 3-5 la9s, 2-3 seems quite light

[stark quiver]

aql

[soft raft]

Aquila
mainly cuz Volga's heals are RNG and can apply to already full HP ships

[nimble knoll]

Oof.. Gamba Healing

[fickle hollow]

should i craft this?

[rigid onyx]

although aquilla and volga are both off-healers i dont think you can say one is strictly better

[stark quiver]

as a healer aql is better

[nimble knoll]

For Dmg, Volga is better?

[stark quiver]

should be yea

[nimble knoll]

[shell willow]

its a great 20s ap gun, slightly faster than champagne gun

[undone plover]

It is good
And can be used to min/max BB comps
It is a champy sidegrade
But if u have 3 champy at +13 then u can hold off till u need it

[fickle hollow]

I dont have the champagne gun yet

[rigid onyx]

personally i like volga more than aquilla if i'm not using mushashi for mobbing but at that point it gets compositional; i think just saying that aquilla is better (although her healing is better) is incorrect

[undone plover]

Then definitely craft it

Might want to get 1-2 champy with protocore as well

It is the pr3 triple 406 1938/50 mle

[stark quiver]

we were on the topic of secondary healers

[rigid onyx]

if you're on the topic of tanks you dont say that napoli is the best to ever do it

[soft raft]

Timing sidegrde to the PR3 406 MLE
works fine enough if you dont have CHampy gun

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[fickle hollow]

should i use it on NJ?

[stark quiver]

you can

[whole crypt]

if you're using her against a medium or heavy boss probably

[keen sable]

it's very difficult to imagine a scenario where half the healing is all you need. If you needed any healing at all then you were probably running some borderline successful sortie. But it's very easy to say that winning with napoli 99% HP remaining is useless. You clearly could have traded some of that tank for more oompf. like z52 instead of napoli. which is exactly what happens in meta.

[whole crypt]

depends on the target and situation
Aquila is strictly lowest main and lowest vanguard based on target HP
Volga is lowest + 1 random in 2 ticks, based on Volga HP

for the purpose of ch14+ in conjunction with Musashi then yes Aquila is better

[rigid onyx]

Honestly I think that's a fairly poor argument as it places an arbitrary bar of 'good off-healing' between aquilla and volga and also completely discounts the fact that the increased dps volga gives may allow you to get away with less healing as well

You clearly could have traded some of that tank for more oompf.

Do you not see the direct parallels?

I do think that aquilla holistically is probably 'better' than volga but just distilling it down to saying aquilla is better because she has better off-healing is at best an incomplete answer

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[tender girder]

fml 16 war archive tickets with x2... still no scarnhost

[whole crypt]

#al-general

[tender girder]

i'm stuck farming with Odin and gneisenau i guess

[whole crypt]

the most frequent use case is 14/15 with Musashi in which case Aquila is strictly better than Volga
there is very little content that you can't get away with using a tank with less bulk but more damage/utility than Napoli

[keen sable]

-1200 core data awaits you

[whole crypt]

if you're down to Scharnhorst she's in core shop yeh

[tender girder]

i'm at 350 core** though. gonna be ages

[whole crypt]

not proto, core data

what chapter are you at

[tender girder]

12-2

[whole crypt]

are you doing 11 for HM?

[tender girder]

sorry? what is HM?

[whole crypt]

hard mode

[tender girder]

hard mode, i'm doing 9.

need to work on 10, 11 but haven't gotten around to it yet

[whole crypt]

you don't have to do them in order

if you can clear it just go straight for 11, it's more cores per clear

HM unlocks based on 3-starring normal mode for the chapter so you can skip older chapters completely

[keen sable]

3* 11 a lot better than wasting oil on 10 anyway

[whole crypt]

HM oil cap starts at 8

[keen sable]

you need to 3* normal

that means farming 10 or 11

i'd rather farm 11

[whole crypt]

well yeh the assumption is normal is already 3-starred, even if it's not starred yet it's not a lot of additional effort either chapter

[rigid onyx]

That's not the definition of strictly better, although this thing is just a non-argument. I just think that when someone asks you whether x or y is better you should be able to enumerate both the strengths and weaknesses of 2 ships if especially they are somewhat close in 'power'.

[whole crypt]

Aquila is strictly better than Volga in companion with Musashi for late chapter because of how their heals work and Musashi's role in the maps

the damage difference on them 2 is not a relevant factor

if you want to bump it up to 15 Aquila also offers better AA

[rigid onyx]

What do you think strictly better means

it does not mean take a balanced holistic view of both ships in the context and evaluate which one is better overall

[whole crypt]

strictly better doesn't mean it has to cover all use cases

[rigid onyx]

the mushashi aquilla synergy vastly overshines volga yes

[eager mulch]

[whole crypt]

I'm not comparing Aquila and Volga and saying Aquila is strictly a better ship

[nova crane]

is felix schultz worth it to research?

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

I'm saying Aquila is strictly a better option as Musashi's side than Volga

[rigid onyx]

arguments are a lot stronger when you use the correct verbiage

[nova crane]

rn for iron blood, i can do friedrich, odin, mainz, august, prinz rupprecht and schultz

which one should i go research first??

[undone plover]

FdG and august

[keen sable]

worse case +1 FP

[whole crypt]

if you lack Implacable and can get AvP to FS5 she'll give you more value in OS boss fleets
FdG is still a strong BB but takes a while to get online

[left cedar]

[nova crane]

lol

[nova crane]

thanks once again faerlein

[keen sable]

A coinable DR if you don't have one > A coinable PR if you don't have one. Assuming you have agir coining, I would pick AvP to make FdG potentially easier (along with every other IB main CDC). Also it's AvP.

[nova crane]

yes i have agir what does coinable mean

for tech points?

[whole crypt]

older research ships can be enhanced with coins even if you don't have their blueprints

[keen sable]

yes as evidenced by her conspicuous absence from your list

[nova crane]

ohhhh

[nova crane]

hhaha got priorities straight

[keen sable]

you get 2 DR and 2 PR for free every day. for best resource usage it's important to keep them up.

[whole crypt]

if you're coining Agir already then working on FdG now won't be getting anywhere

[nova crane]

ye

ill get AvP

[whole crypt]

like unique said getting AvP can also help with grinding for FdG, assuming you don't already have a working KMS main fleet setup

any auto comps for this EX without Eldridge

[stark quiver]

3 tanks

[keen sable]

does birmingham ever work?

[sweet delta]

Just makes auto dodge harder

[whole crypt]

well this is for my sub, if there's no decent comp I'm skipping it

[trim path]

is the ur dd gun and ur aa gun safe to craft or should i wait for the gearlab update?

[undone plover]

For the AA I would wait 1 week at this point since we are getting a new one