gameplay-help

[hallow mountain]

Is the Missle we got in the previous event good for her?

I mean there's only two missiles to choose from in the game.

Btw is this worth it

No way a guy named guided missile is replying

[frank pulsar]

yes, the event missile is the better of the two currently
yes the gun is worth it

[hallow mountain]

Ey thanks

[forest palm]

[rose cosmos]

Technically the only premium gear ply wants is the ply gun rite

[forest palm]

sometimes the Diary

Albion's Excercise Report*

but ya the Quad 152 is the major premium piece

[normal crane]

@who should I pick?

[forest palm]

do you have Shinano MLB?

[normal crane]

All of them yeah

[forest palm]

Kron

[normal crane]

Got it

[storm heron]

talking about names,

[storm heron]

I heard it is better than a toolbox or smth

[wary skiff]

just got san francisco, worth running her?

[storm heron]

depends on what you have

[tender girder]

should i LB any of these subs? https://gyazo.com/63de1dcf571bc40cfd3103e2a924b3d9
currently at chapter 11...

currently grinding combat exp for FDG as well

[storm heron]

On mondays, can you take on level 65 subs weekly?

(or do you not know what I'm talking about)

[tender girder]

wut? lol

[storm heron]

if you go to daily raid, there's a level with submarines

[tender girder]

oh right. i can only do 55 at the moment

[storm heron]

I usually encourage people raising their subs to get S rank the level 65 weekly raid, and then just leave their subs there since subs are expensive in what they provide

[tender girder]

which do i rank up though? U96 or archerfish?

[wary skiff]

u96 imo

[storm heron]

so imo MLB archerfish and other 2 purple, and then try to get S rank

archerfish is just stronger

[wary skiff]

even more than 3x wolfpack trait?

[storm heron]

yeah archerfish + 2 fish stronger than wolfpack

[wary skiff]

hmm ok ty

[rain vine]

optimal wolfpack needs specific subs

[storm heron]

after this, next step is waiting time. Do these simultaneously:

Raising subs
put the subs you wanna use on the secretary slot until 90 affinity
repeat until you have 3 such subs (takes about 2 months)
level your subs to 110 using books or dorms (instant)
sortie in oil cap maps until they are all max affinity (a week?)
level your subs to 120 using books or dorms (instant)

Gearing subs
bidders are crafted from gear lab, and their base materials are only obtainable through the sub weekly, with level 65 drops them more often
Wait to get 6 of these base materials (4-5 months) then craft and upgrade them
after your core data primary needs are fulfilled, start buying sub gear (3 months)

[tender girder]

i MLB any of the puple subs? or try to get subs like albacore from merit shop?

[storm heron]

well albacore is even more expensive with 5 gold bulins cost at least

[nimble knoll]

Does the event or w9 give more Xp?

[storm heron]

so just mlb purple subs, preferably the one you need tech for (if you need ijn tech mlb the ijn subs, for example)

[tender girder]

yeah i just reached FDG tech level... so i guess i'll work on IJNs next

[storm heron]

I wonder actually...

It's a bit hard to calculate if it's close, but I'll try

[nimble knoll]

Can Sandy Tank Attacks?

[storm heron]

what attack?

sandy retrofit can main tank up to ch 13

[nimble knoll]

Is she gud to tank stuff, Cuz I'm Tryna Use Her And Kaza To Lvl Them Up, Cuz ima replace Either, Laffey,Portland Or Helena (only Helena isn't Retro)

[storm heron]

sandy retrofit is more tanky than portland

[dreamy blade]

if she has her augment

[storm heron]

which sounds kinda wrong tbh

[nimble knoll]

I don't have her Retrofitted yet, Nor Is She Mlb cuz I don't have any gold Bulins left-
I'm just tryna lvl them up

[dreamy blade]

then she'll be about as tanky as helena

actually if not mlb then even less

[storm heron]

well definitely a no no if like not mlb

[nimble knoll]

If that's the case, I won't use Kaza Yet cuz she's not even Limit Breaked-
So should I replace Laffey For the Mean Time?

[dreamy blade]

i wouldnt bother raising sandy at all until you reach w12

it would be more useful to level ships for tech, like random blue/purple kms ships for fdg

if youre farming the event then take the opportunity to level and mlb the ships that drop from sp4 so you dont have to use bulins

if you dont have the gold bulins to mlb her then you also dont have the gold bulins that her retro needs

[barren tapir]

it's not wrong, portland is a low bar for tankiness beyond the midgame lol

also sandys augment is legit genuinely that busted

[nimble knoll]

Which one then?

[barren tapir]

tbf i dont know what uptime mebot assumes for it, but as long as there's planes to shoot at, sandy is definitely tanky

[dreamy blade]

z23 drops from literally everywhere so i would level her

[storm heron]

Base + S in SP4:
elite: 639
small: 456
medium: 507
large: 561
boss: 696
for mob you get 3x elite and two meds on average and a boss, so 3627 exp/ship for 140 oil, 25.9 exp/ship /oil

W9 is really random, but we can see it here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/AutoSearch
total exp/oil around 19.7, or 23.64 with S rank
so like, a bit more exp/oil than w9

[dreamy blade]

scharn as well since shes one of the only kms backliners that is easy to get

[barren tapir]

also looks like sandy got nerfed from 117 to 111

actually looks like mebot updated the ehp calc a bit, a bunch of ships ehp has changed a bit, nep is now 126

[storm heron]

for coins though, SP4 just inferior even to w9

[dreamy blade]

oh must be bc of the +13 rudder thing i assume

[nimble knoll]

True, I got like 4 copies of her already.. Then Retired them

[barren tapir]

oh thats why

nep performs above average in meta so she went up ig

by quite a bit

i assume its something to do with the timing on her shield or maybe just zombie heal is more effective there for whatever reason

oh thats interesting ngl never looked at the specifics. ig she should be offtank in my opsi mob

18% more ehp than momo in stronghold

[stark quiver]

i feel like at a certain point, it wont matter

[elfin hollow]

Who to use bullins on?

[barren tapir]

vittorio veneto i guess for a bb

[atomic abyss]

VV is a pretty good BB ye

[storm heron]

what bulin

[little tree]

~~ the doggo bullins ~~

[fickle hollow]

would VH armor be good on Agir?

[barren tapir]

UR: amagi if u can mlb otherwise wait feb UR
Gold: VV
Purple: Nelson and Saratoga

would be my reccs

[storm heron]

also fgs just put 2 books and lb those dupes

[soft raft]

Meh

1. She's already heavy armor by default
2. The alternative buff VH armor gives for her is pretty

[barren tapir]

also rest your ships 🟧

[storm heron]

idk I like mlb graf zep more

[elfin hollow]

thank you

[storm heron]

just for the IB tech points

[elfin hollow]

on who?

[barren tapir]

maybe since shes closer

but they have enterprise and are using QE so a good gold bb feels more important to me even though zep is progressed a bit

[elfin hollow]

I need ironblood tech points for the ur I want

[barren tapir]

zep for tech is valid tho, theres also a bunch of purples you can do for that too though

[elfin hollow]

like?

[fickle hollow]

will there ever be a chance for me to get the Yamato gun in the future?

[barren tapir]

i wanna say yes but shimatorp

[storm heron]

I don't really know what VV is or what she can do, I only heard abt her once or twice before with Xeno. So I might be wrong about using nelson over VV for second BB

[elfin hollow]

I WANT HER

[barren tapir]

shes an older gold bb that was once top tier and still is quite good for a gold, afaik

[elfin hollow]

How hard to get 400 more tech points

[stark quiver]

not that hard

[elfin hollow]

idk vv or nelson retro

and I want 400 more Iron Blood is it worth chasing for more tech points and MLB those

is it worth mlb zeppy for iron blood tech points (the elite)

[barren tapir]

child ships give no tech

[storm heron]

I did some research on it but I couldn't find it, hold on

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

dont rush tho youll hinder your overall progress chasing tech too early

since it's a lot of bulins/exp/coins

just focus them on the side until you reach ch12

[storm heron]

LMAO

[sweet delta]

better to be baited by fdg than baited by reddit

[elfin hollow]

umm so how much lvl to mlb r sr common

[storm heron]

yt video when

[sweet delta]

when i get banned

[barren tapir]

oh no what did reddit do now

[stark quiver]

plebeians

[sweet delta]

nothing specific, just in general

[storm heron]

what is the top reddit take today

welp just now I think I got the ectl hot take today

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

but why though, why do you think low oiling toolbox is a good idea when 10-4 exist

[barren tapir]

because it's more efficient for toolbox bps

the real answer is to just wait for an event though

[sweet delta]

why do you think 10-4 is a good idea when 12+ exists

[barren tapir]

and 10-4 is just shit when 14-1 exists, which i also mentioned

hell, i would much much rather farm abyssal refrain d3 than either 10-4 or 14-1 because you get rudder prints and also build pity to a ship drop with dd fp on acquire.

but keeping it simple, the most oil per print efficient farm for toolkit is 3-4 like it or not

[barren tapir]

youd also get better prints/oil cos elites

actually i prolly shouldve mentioned that one, thinking about it more

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

please dont tell me you think 10-4 is actually good

imo its the worst option from all the possible ones lol

[storm heron]

I mean it makes more sense if they are a middle game player tbh

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

wait not 10-4 lmao wait it doesn't even drop toolkit

oh 10-3

[barren tapir]

the way i see it

3-4 = can be low oiled, almost guaranteed to be lowest oil per toolkit, can get akaga for collection, can get corsairs for flapjacks
14-1 = good coin income, drops cog chips, not super difficult but may be harder to level ships in
war archives oil cap, especially abyssal refrain = highest drop rate due to elites, may come with other good bps, comes with ship for collection

10-4 = no cog chips, high oil per toolkit, doesnt really drop anything of value besides jintsuu i guess

also wait why are we talking about 10-4 it doesnt drop i just checked

[storm heron]

how do you low oil 3-4 again?

ranger mahan or smth?

[barren tapir]

oh it was 10-3

yeah 10-3 ummm i guess u can drop st louis but that's it really

[sweet delta]

3 oil 3-4

[barren tapir]

my bigger question is how does anyone lack in toolkits

[storm heron]

I guess true, not a hot take now, they are, I think, committed to the toolkit grind

[carmine heath]

where does toolkit drop

[stark quiver]

same way youd low oil any map

look in wiki

[hollow gust]

its not lack of toolkits these days, toolkits are the best fleet power wise though

[storm heron]

/wiki tolkit

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Repair_Toolkit

[storm heron]

oh yea they are grinding fleet power

[stark quiver]

who are we talking abt

[carmine heath]

there are common toolkits?

[barren tapir]

nvm they answered, theyre chasing fleet power kek. oh well, valid goal if you can afford to tbh

[fickle hollow]

should i craft this?

[obsidian ivy]

Where's z35 available from other than archives? I see a exchange green tick on the wiki but don't see her on any shop lists

[stark quiver]

why would you?

[storm heron]

hail the aurora

[fickle hollow]

just asking

[stark quiver]

no

[barren tapir]

shes allegedly available from requisition but definitely dont do that

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1062209289919402044/image.png?ex=67a81efd&is=67a6cd7d&hm=435ab810bf5d7c1452cb171733e7cd34856753ecf4f97e627a9550d813b9f9ac&

[barren tapir]

why they look so funny

[obsidian ivy]

That's considered under exchange in wiki?

Guess archives it is

[barren tapir]

on desktop it shows if u hover, but i agree its a bit misleading

[barren tapir]

so whats the question-

[obsidian ivy]

Ah ok Im on mobile so it's just a tick

[storm heron]

it's apparently in red

[fickle hollow]

should i craft or craft my 3rd ju87

[stark quiver]

flapjacks ig

[barren tapir]

flaps good

[fickle hollow]

ok

[barren tapir]

you dont need more than a few but definitely nice to get a couple if you dont have any yet

[storm heron]

so yeah flaps good. 3rd ju87 still have alternatives like saiun with manjuu and stuff

I only have 2 Ju87s actually

[barren tapir]

2 of each tb should be sufficient, if u ever need a 3rd for timing further then you can craft it then imo

[glossy granite]

A bit random but how are Halloween and Summer events like on Azur lane? Are there anything for spring or just UR events

No idea how to ask this question ngl

[barren tapir]

halloween is tempesta/pirate ships from the golden age of piracy, summer idk, there's a may UR though

[glossy granite]

Pirates for halloween? interesting

Shame i missed like every one of them

[barren tapir]

yeah it started in 2022 and became a thing since then

[nimble knoll]

Is using three CV's a gud idea in SP4?

[stark quiver]

why not

[nimble knoll]

Should I lvl up my Aquila instead of Enty Or Nah? (Enty Is 103 And Aquila is 95)

[fickle hollow]

During Meta fights my CV's Get exposed very quickly so i wanted to know wether i should improve my Anti air gear?or use an anti air auxiliary or should i equip my CV's with Fighters instead of going 2 torp bombers?

[stark quiver]

js level both

[stark quiver]

use better AA

[nimble knoll]

I'm using dis tho

[stark quiver]

just finish unicorn/yk2 then slot in aql

[nimble knoll]

To 115?

[stark quiver]

120

[fickle hollow]

i have this stuff rn

[nimble knoll]

Is Uni Worth 125'ing?

[glossy granite]

What are good replacements for Helena in the future? or its fleet dependant

[stark quiver]

theyre worth yes, but you can work on other ships after 120

[nimble knoll]

Wat abt Yt2?

[stark quiver]

theres no replacement for what helena does

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[stark quiver]

uhh, try using high performance air radar on z52

[fickle hollow]

with auto loader or with toolkit?

[stark quiver]

autoloader

or at this point
run a fighter on your slow

[fickle hollow]

i dont use triple CV comp rn

i use 2 cv + 1bb

[wind hazel]

you might as well go triple bb

[fickle hollow]

i am working on ark royal

[fickle hollow]

[wind hazel]

ok nvm

[glossy granite]

Is bismarck 1 still good?

[wind hazel]

dont think you can sacrifice fighter on shinano amagi

[storm heron]

what bismarck is that

the fact or the fiction

[glossy granite]

The one that signs about a flower

[nimble knoll]

Is it gud that my Uni fires her planes first? (Enty and Yt2 have +10's and Uni only has +6's dunno how she fires her planes first)

[fickle hollow]

or should i use independence with amagi and shinano?

[storm heron]

cvl has faster rld

[wind hazel]

nah just take the 2shot

[stark quiver]

you can tell by bg color

[carmine heath]

If you dont have a scepter on her put one on her

[storm heron]

I always forgot that trick

[wind hazel]

you can actually swap in helena instead of agir, for more damage

[carmine heath]

I forgot about uni preload

[wind hazel]

agir really doing nothing much... other than AB for musashi helena will bring more damage overall

[fickle hollow]

skill 1 not max lvl yet

[wind hazel]

huh...

[stark quiver]

idk if it can one shot even with that
might as well run whatever

[storm heron]

time to max it I guess

[wind hazel]

it wont 1 shot, but it will do more damage

[storm heron]

can they 2 shot with that?

[stark quiver]

as long as it is in two shot terrority, run w/e

[storm heron]

or did they whiff

[fickle hollow]

this is my best damage

[stark quiver]

just keep running that
do not change anything

[forest palm]

no August, or Implacable I'm guessing

[storm heron]

also kinda surprising they deal that damage without root

[carmine heath]

should I level ranger/downes/etc for low oil fleet or is that unnecessary

[stark quiver]

if u want

[forest palm]

"raise" you don't even MLB them

[barren tapir]

up to you

[stark quiver]

its just 194 exp books per pair

[storm heron]

do note that low oiling takes time

[storm heron]

pair of a random mahan + ranger?

[fickle hollow]

normally i do 1.09~1.1 if i get lucky i hit 1.2

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

usual dead hours of gph

gn gph

[fickle hollow]

help

[barren tapir]

200 but also pins

[forest palm]

check the pins

[slow fox]

I can undead these hours if we have any stats majors in here

[fickle hollow]

what is the use of the Arbiter stuff?

[tropic tusk]

they turn into this at the end of the month

wont be that amount but they will turn into that ticket

@fickle hollow

[whole crypt]

you could also just tap on the item icon

[storm heron]

is there any known chances of a certain talent roll?

[whole crypt]

how does blucher gun compare with roon and eugen guns

[keen sable]

Flat out better than eugen

Theoretically better pattern than roon

[outer cedar]

are these ships good? just built them

[keen sable]

Ok, no

[upbeat plaza]

starting with laffey good?

[tropic tusk]

isnt all 3 of them are the same to start with?

[wind hazel]

more or less the same

[frank pulsar]

imho z23 > laffey > javelin but yea more or less the same in practice

[upbeat plaza]

uh how do i know which type of ship i m building

[frank pulsar]

the icon in top left corner

in ship menu just look at the abbreviation next to their name
e.g. DD = destroyer

[upbeat plaza]

i meant the one which is on build right now

i did on limited event banner rn 2 ships r building

uh it was 4h 21m upgrade i did quick finisher and I got amagi

[sinful escarp]

lower times are dd or submarines
the higher the number the heavier the hull or something

lots of ships share build timers so you wont know until you complete them

[upbeat plaza]

is amagi good?

[sinful escarp]

the carrier?= yes
the battlecruiser= meh

[nimble knoll]

this is gud to +10 right?

[hoary relic]

im using hood as the only bc/bb rn, should i invest in sovet belo or wait for NJ as i nearly can exchange for her

[wind hazel]

you already half invested in belo, just finish her

you wont be using nj anytime soon, save your UR bulin

[tropic ridge]

question is if thats your best setup

you might wanna try haku instead of Musashi

or implacable

[hoary relic]

so i can use her in the F2?

or boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

for your 2nd fleet yes. nelson would have been a cheaper (and maybe better) choice

[hoary relic]

but eh i got sovet belo before her lol

[wind hazel]

it's fine they are all transitional until you get better BBs anyway

[hoary relic]

anyway i just got saratoga few min ago, should i invest in her?

[slow fox]

Most likely HIT/EVA differences in the different considerations for the bosses

[wind hazel]

if you need more CV sure

[hoary relic]

🤔 i have no CV but CVL rn so retro her isnt a bad idea at all?

[wind hazel]

what does your fleet look like

[hoary relic]

my main and only fleet atm

oops wrong pic

my bad let me recapture it

[wind hazel]

raise her on 2nd fleet, your fleet is fine now

[turbid dawn]

This might be a stupid question but what on earth is Yorks 'secondary gun'? Does she have a ghost gun or something?

[boreal wagon]

almost all torpedo cruisers have a ghost gun

[turbid dawn]

She's meant to be a TRP CA? But her TRP is really low and both her skills increase gun dmg and not trp

[boreal wagon]

by torpedo cruiser i meant those with a torpedo slot rather than a gun slot

[hoary relic]

does this gun worthy to buy and upgrade?

[turbid dawn]

Holy she sucks huh? Even against a Langley who only has 1 plane she can't out damage them on 12-4 boss

And a purple vanguard ship

[molten zinc]

[barren tapir]

idk what u expected, yea shes bad

[sinful socket]

who should I research in PR3 ? I'm doing the Series quest

[rapid grail]

cheshire for aa
odin for w14 option, but recently you can just use 2 ur bbs and the reset w/ cv/ls
rest are pretty

[sinful socket]

don't have enough Royal Navy points for Cheshire

and my Sandy should get me enough AA

what's that abt Odin for w14 tho ?

is it for the anti SS ?

[rapid grail]

asw is decent, good barrages as well on fs5

[frank pulsar]

odin not worth it imho
its like 200k(?) coins for a ship thats similar to nelson
at least cheshire might see some use in w15 eventually

[blazing maple]

I see, and thanks

[fickle hollow]

Thats the best setup i have rn i dont have Haku and Impla

isnt Helldiver supposed to be better than Skyraider against Heavy armor?

[kind needle]

Should I go do cheshire/odin? I’m kinda not ready for going napoli and recently finished shimanto…

Like, finishing some unfinished pr like Izumo, Ibuki, Nep, Azuma, Cheshire, Drake and Odin

[fickle hollow]

Shinano with Helldiver(left pic) V/s Shinano with Skyraider(Right pic) tested it 5 times 3times with helldiver 2 with Skyraider results were the same

[wind hazel]

you dont have a freeze/slow so torpedo whiffing can result in very different outcome

[nimble knoll]

Is there smth for all the Ships that Has a Special Augmentation?

[lucid pollen]

is musashi or nj a better flagship?

[proud turret]

Kaer Good with NJ?

[rapid grail]

both are good. you kind of need healing though if you want musashi to perform well in mobbing. payoff is epic though since if you make her survive consistently you have one of the best mob fleet archetypes in the game
also you want musashi flag anyways, part of her barrage reliant on her position while nj doesn't care for hers

[lucid pollen]

thanks

[drifting pecan]

W15 fleet

[rapid grail]

well yes but it is significantly more common to pair her up with uh yorktown II and choice of enty/shangrila/nakhimov/rumey/implac/avp
well as long as you satisfy her other Eagle Union backline ship requirement for her ARA

[sinful escarp]

im planning on making a fleet for OPSI centered around nakh and tashkent. who else should i put? (not soyuz cause i have her in another fleet already)

[bright tusk]

How to mitigate inconsistency in taihou showdown? Like sometimes can defeat her in one battle and sometimes can't, for example: can > can > can't > can't > can

*All CV aux use 2x +13 catapult

[proud turret]

Implacable is the next UR rerun yes? I have Yorktown II and Rumey though (but neither limit broken) so I will take that into consideration

She is more of a boss fleet I assume?

[wind hazel]

unoath? that's how it is unfortunately, not a 100% comp

if your cv got revealed then maybe another ur aa on z52

[bright tusk]

Yes, only oath shinano

[rapid grail]

hmm, what's your current opsi fleets then? please post your opsi fleets here, as screenshot so that i can determine what your fleet looks like

[cobalt gate]

you can use the -4% reload to see if that helps

[rapid grail]

options include shinana + amagicv, kear + yk2n, some other options

[fickle hollow]

should i craft these

[molten zinc]

sadly it just how rng work
-> crit
-> bomb hit rate
-> you miss some Unzen/Kazagumo/Z52 torp
-> or your CV torp drop just miss because of Taihou's EVA

[rapid grail]

probably nah, champy and flandre guns are good enough to use against medium armor. pretty much nj or any ship with reduced spread from skills + admiralty table can effectively use it, limiting its usage without whiffing

wtf where did the w15 help thread go, i was about to recommend the guy on what to use

[wind hazel]

[white agate]

use the /w15

[boreal wagon]

the thread still exists, they just closed it

[rapid grail]

ah, found it. they said thanks for the help, so case closed

[sinful escarp]

dont mind fleet 1 its just my mob fleet and is atelier ryza ships

[rapid grail]

i thought red name was lurking around again

[sinful escarp]

fleet 3 is the one i am planning to change

[rapid grail]

you got kear dev30 up and running? she can replace fdg; nakhimov replaces hakuryuu
as for gearing, i think you can figure it out

[nimble knoll]

??? (Like a doc or smth)

[sinful escarp]

how about for vanguard? (not the ship but the position)

[young terrace]

i'm thinking of replacing sara-chan with kear, after i fully dev her and her skills all maxed out. i have enty in my first place; since my first fleet are eagle union shipgirls. it should be good to satisfy her eagle union's requirements

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[nimble knoll]

Thanks

[rapid grail]

tash can replace yuudachi, can use z52, eldridge or aurora in place of mogador since mog's role is redundant with the nakh + russian slow synergy

yk2n flag, kear top and nakh bottom, should benefit the crossfleets a bit but not by much

[sinful escarp]

gotcha, imma switch out mog with z52 after i build up z52

[young terrace]

is kear good pair with enty btw?

[rapid grail]

poverty option yes; kear's best pairing option is Yorktown II but she's UR and limited, as of writing. Her rerun was last month
Would prefer a slow/root option there as well, AvP and Ark should be good permanent options for that role

[paper ridge]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[young terrace]

so kear and enty pair still works. but kear and yorktown ii is the recommended pair?

[wind hazel]

it depends on what you're fighting really

sometimes you can even use kear yk2 and enterprise

[nimble knoll]

Should I craft Laffey's Aug? (Or Sandy's)

[wind hazel]

... what does the link i gave you earlier says about it

[rapid grail]

sandy's, no question

[nimble knoll]

[rapid grail]

day 1 bote and still competes with top tiers

[wind hazel]

you know, it really beats the purpose of having that link or doc

[worldly pewter]

sometimes a person can be lazy to read a tierlist

[rapid grail]

here comes the airplane, say ahh! :resiastare:

oh wait, sandy shot it down :/

[sinful escarp]

most of the times a person can be lazy to read patch notes, EN things

[fickle hollow]

should i craft these?

[nimble knoll]

-# I Was Just Askin, Cuz I Still need 1 more gold bulin to Mlb Sandy so

[wind hazel]

no, probably no, eventually yes but you can't craft it now, so triple no

[fickle hollow]

i can craft the last one i have the selector prints

[worldly pewter]

play more opsi then it becomes triple yes

[wind hazel]

prioritize for wyvern and bb guns

lemme go dig renhex's copy pasta

for electric components ull want 2-3 wyverns = 2 junkers > 2 ryuusei in depot if you didnt already get em > 1-3 flaps > 1-2 457 in depot ( 1 can be from protocores )
UR selectors should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
UR test reports is 1-2 457 in depot > w.e
gold test reports is 1-3 flaps >= ~2 155kai > 1-2 457 in depot > rest
the other u can check pic from /gearlab top bottom prio coz mats are more abundant/not high prios and/or non conflicting

[fickle hollow]

what about this?

[wind hazel]

gold test reports is 1-3 flaps >= ~2 155kai > 1-2 457 in depot > rest

[fickle hollow]

i have 1 flapjack

[worldly pewter]

u get that when u are about to do w14 or u want a cl gun for yat sen or something like that

[nimble knoll]

Who should I LB First, Cuz I got a Hood and Tashkent Copy (and Not Enough gold-)

[fickle hollow]

whats 457?

[worldly pewter]

before choosing whom to lb first
are u doing the 1 light per day or are u doing more than 1 light per day ?

[wind hazel]

UR AP Bb gun

[worldly pewter]

aka georgia gun

[nimble knoll]

Tickets

[wind hazel]

you have VV and Nelson right? are you hardmode locked for BC or something?

[nimble knoll]

Nope, I just got a copy of both on a ten pull

[wind hazel]

then forget about hood, she's useless

[worldly pewter]

tashkent is more useful than hood
definielty not biased

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[wind hazel]

forget about tashkent as well, just limit break your dupe and bench her

[nimble knoll]

I couldn't even LB Hood Lmao- (I forgor she needed 2 to Mlb-)

[forest palm]

[white agate]

was there a way to get notified with a vibration once a sortie ends?

[shell willow]

there is a setting for that yeah

[white agate]

i think i en when passed them 1 by one

[shell willow]

happens

[white agate]

btw that works for opsi too?

[shell willow]

i think it should but i havent done opsi on mobile in forever

[barren barn]

Hi should i buy opsig data logger

[undone plover]

The one that costs 5000 oil?
If u cba to manually clear the explorable zones then yeah that one lets u strategically search all of them

Doesnt give more rewards than clearing them manually
And u can still auto zones without it but u have to enter them manually and hit recon then wait 30 mins or use AP to recon more zones

[barren barn]

Will it let me use auto search without having to touch anything

[white agate]

still your choice if you want to stop at akashi shop or not, and i think some siren tower construct stops the research like 1% of the time not 100% iirc tho

[undone plover]

Yeah but if u buy it might as well use the strategic search

[white agate]

199ap>strategic search>explorable>0ap>199ap...

[worldly pewter]

since there are some daily missions reaching 199 for the strategic research is very improbable i think 120 is good enough

[white agate]

yeah, was just using 199 to imply to not max it with boxes in case you don't want to lose the 1ap regen per 10 minutes

[keen sable]

Like why. Just cope if you need a bc

Repulse and renown are worth 100 gems. Wonderful deal

[keen sable]

If you don't play the game a lot yes. Capping oil, buying dorm food are signs you should buy and use it.

[rapid grail]

donating oil to those that deserve it is a good step in the right direction

[sharp socket]

i buy logger because im lazy

[keen sable]

Not clearing ops is another good reason

[solid kite]

fyi this does not work if you set auto reapeat to more than 1

works for 1 though, weird enough

[keen sable]

My morale can't keep up anyway

[solid kite]

dorm issue

[keen sable]

fireworks onsen was nice

[hallow mountain]

should i get daisen or azuma

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u have

[gaunt bison]

Is it worth it to max fate sim shimanto or should I just turn leftover bps into proto cores?

[turbid marsh]

i think its worth it, shimanto performs very well in main campaign, even in w14.

but if you are not concerned with campaign then sure, turn to protocores

[soft raft]

It removes the gun restriction for her AA mount efficency buff

which means she wouldnt be strictly limited to this gun

[sinful socket]

how much should I prioritise units with the Siren Killer skill for OPSI ?

[gaunt bison]

thx for the info, ill just fate sim her, already invested heavily into pr6 ships anyway might aswell you know

[hushed delta]

she's def the best pr6 ship

[gaunt bison]

I have flandre max fate sim
40 bps away from dev30 kear
almost done with dev30 felix
and hinden is lagging behind but I can do only so much lol

[south sequoia]

Entirely different hull types but depends on what you have, daisen isn't exactly unique or super strong in terms of the other ssr bbs

Though, you can invest in both in the same time
If you're just askinf who to build first do whatever since they aren't going to be ready when you get them because of blueprints and skill levels

[soft raft]

Daisen on paper isnt half bad but there are better SR BBs than her (And also typical "PR BB in a UR BB World curse")

Azuma as a CB is pretty tanky compared to most other tanks but she's moderately low prio as she's been beat by other CBs and Napoli along with Anchorage being cheaper to raise

[vital meadow]

What is the best gear to make from gear lab with rainbow gear blueprints?

[rigid onyx]

Usually people recommend wyvern first because it is the largest upgrade relatively to it's parallel torp gold peers, best overall may be arguable

I'd posit the technical best gear might not provide the most marginal benefit in all cases

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /gearlab

[nimble knoll]

I have a question, Do you gain Morale after not playing for some time? Or is it only with Dorm Ships?

[rigid onyx]

You do, being in dorm only accelerates passive morale generation

[wind hazel]

dorm also goes above natural morale regeneration

[vital meadow]

Should I get the rainbow dd gun or the he bb or ap bb gun?

[keen sable]

What do you need?

[vital meadow]

Can’t really tell and I got way too many Wyverns already

[vague fable]

who to do for my pr3 ship

[keen sable]

What can't you kill or what do you want to kill faster?

[rigid onyx]

You can just save your mats until you're certain you need something

not like it's burning a hole in your pocket

[vital meadow]

Ig I want to best one shot opsi stuff

Don’t care for regular farming that’s w/e

[keen sable]

What ops stuff? This month? Next month? It changes constantly

[worldly pewter]

for opsi oneshot u want cv most of the time and not bb

[vital meadow]

Idk which one in general is good. Seems like lately it’s triple cv back line

[keen sable]

Those things don't use the same mats BTW. Wait for tenrai is the best answer

[worldly pewter]

for oneshot i think ignoring mk7 is also an option

[keen sable]

Isn't dd designs?

[worldly pewter]

yeah main gun

[rigid onyx]

nj gun and dd gun are the same

[keen sable]

Not gears

Hmm

[rigid onyx]

sorry 457 is ords

[keen sable]

There were against about ords anyway so question answered

Wait for tenrai is best answer

[vital meadow]

So don’t get mk7 bb?

[worldly pewter]

u said u want to oneshot
the cv can do it without any heavy investment into the gear lab weapon designs

always go with the cheaper solution

[vital meadow]

What about future story farming? Is that the ap BB gun to go?

[undone plover]

tbf abdou CV overall need more investment in gear
but sure they might require less gear lab stuff

[outer cedar]

is she good?

[undone plover]

generally 1 copy of that gun is fine
get it from protoshop
the T3 ordnance is very rare (probably the rarest mat in the game atm)
so saving it for future releases is always an option

getting 1 twin 457 (the BB gun) with T3 ordnance is still fine tho if u want to have 2 copies
but really it is not needed

[worldly pewter]

it is dependent on the comp but this is factoring in a perfect dock
i don't know if a bb comp with a triple mk7 can beat the normal sinano mamagi avp against light

[hollow gust]

They clear most content just fine

[undone plover]

it can for sure
dfg was saying antilight BB is better than YKii and neko comp even
dont underestimate BBs
especially for light armor
CV still* requires limited gear and ships for that

[hollow gust]

Saying it's better is a fuck ton of caveats

[worldly pewter]

yeah but triple mk7 is a massive investment too

[keen sable]

It's not terribly important currently because musashi can't use it

[wind hazel]

i had better experience with 1 mk7+2 mk6 vs ijn+implacable in the past against jelly arbiter

[undone plover]

fair enough
but tbh UR designs are not that hard to get
u can get 3 mk7 in ~6 months if u have all your wyverns already

[worldly pewter]

yeah the jelly arbiter is designed to punish cv for some reason

[vital meadow]

what's avp

[hollow gust]

You can dps right through it

[undone plover]

and like mori pointed out
mk7 is good on the best BB but if u run sth like vanguard u can do with mk6 even and not miss a lot of dmg since she is mostly support

[spice phoenix]

how good is the rumey slow? can i replace avp with her for a 3cv fleet or nah?

[worldly pewter]

august von percival

[hollow gust]

Consider her slow as good as nonexistent

[spice phoenix]

alr so no replacing avp got it

[wind hazel]

but considering mk7 has no use this month other than CM, you might as well wait for gearlab update before crafting it

[undone plover]

in general ark slow which is ~60% is the baseline of slow that u want for TB comps and even then it is not 100%
fritz is 30% so not really good alone

for rockets u can do with less but I think 30% is still very bad

running her with eldridge is an option tho and should be fine if u lack implacable

[worldly pewter]

also the +13 cost
against some hvars it is kinda a angle

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[undone plover]

true but HVAR needs 1 more year for ppl who still dont have em
and u can get 3 mk7 by then easily
+13 is another thing but still possible even tho I dont recommend it
1-2 +13 mk7 is prolly fine for most things

[worldly pewter]

running her with eld is 78% slow ?

[undone plover]

i think so but not sure tbh

[worldly pewter]

then that is very perfect since the cap is 80%

[undone plover]

yep
slow can still miss tho so some ppl might prefer the stop from implacable or nakhimov

or even AvP assuming not heavy armor

[hollow gust]

You have to consider which boss you are fighting

[undone plover]

sure but overall it is a decent slow
shouldnt be discounted

[worldly pewter]

if u are fighting med or light then it should be mostly a rocket fight and not tb

[undone plover]

even rocket can miss on slow

[worldly pewter]

i want to see a rocket going astray

[undone plover]

would be nice if someone had the data tbh
I am curious to see the percentage expected miss at 50% slow vs typical meta bosses but oh well
I think a general rule of u prefer stop if u can manage it is not a horrible take

[keen sable]

Failing at ops when only ark exists isn't an option

[lucid pollen]

are these any good to purchase? got alot of core data

[hollow gust]

Albion is good for Plymouth
Feather good for CVs sometimes , very low priority
j-class for your Janus and jervis

[sinful socket]

should I MLB Shinano or Z-52 first ?

[sharp echo]

this talent useful or meh?

[rigid onyx]

very good on bb cats

[soft raft]

1. How close are they to MLB
2. What other URs do you have? (And how close are they to MLB)
3. How many UR Bullins do you have
4. How much Specialized Core do you have?

[wind hazel]

<@&472236072743600148>

infested in every channel 😭

[mellow cape]

Damn lol

[sinful socket]

not a lot, it's on the long term. Both are 3*, I have 2 UR Bulins, 1 Extra Shinano. My other UR are : NJ, Yorktown 2, Sandy Kai, Yuudachi Kai, Brest (D25)

[sonic breach]

It happens

[sinful socket]

my other UR that use UR Bulins are already MLB

and my UR exchange is 151/400 if that helps

[soft raft]

Shinano > Z52
But we are highly likely to have a new UR at the end of the month and a non-zero chance of Implacable rerun soon after that so just use that Shinano dupe to LB1 Shinano and save from there

[sinful socket]

is Shinano really that good ?

[hollow gust]

Still top meta to this day

[soft raft]

backliners are usually higher impact than vanguards
And Shinano herself remains very competitive with other UR CVs since no one really fully powercreeps her role, they either fufill a different function or directly benefit from her

[uneven cave]

Is there a more suitable fighter (heavy bossing)

[cobalt rapids]

depends on timing otherwise no

[uneven cave]

Aight thanks

[forest palm]

What's this for?

[quaint hinge]

What ships should i build for early-mid game? I still want to keep Bristol or chien wu in my fleet bcs i like them lol

[cobalt rapids]

pennsylvania unicorn ranger - chien helena laffey

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips and give this a read

[elfin hollow]

is my second fleet expensive to maintain or I'm getting on the right track? Got a lot of bulins so MLB journey isn't much of an issue

[quaint hinge]

Amazing, thank you man

[glossy granite]

Chien wu is good?

[hollow gust]

If that's the only ships you can spare for 2nd fleet might as well not use it

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt invest in any of these ships

[hollow gust]

Like Hipper meta is the best ship in the fleet , that's says something

[cobalt rapids]

hipper meta

[hollow gust]

Wait that's blucher

[elfin hollow]

yeah just got her from shop XD

[weary gust]

Why is your screenshot so desaturated?

[marsh knoll]

Can't ägir fate simulate? I just got her to 30 and she's 125, pic related

[cobalt rapids]

shes ok, abit higher than average gold
not meta, not rly worth investing

[hollow gust]

Same shit

[elfin hollow]

using a color blindness filter

[cobalt rapids]

relevant picture indeed

[hollow gust]

Mid as fuck skin and no she doesn't have it yet

[marsh knoll]

I got the pillow to disappear the other day now sure how,

I thought every ship had it she's rather old,

[hollow gust]

She is still relevant in the meta , they don't like giving strong DR ships fate to fast

[viscid swift]

no, PRs only get them 13 months after they get released and the DRs get them whenever the devs feel like it

[marsh knoll]

Alright I see, don't really follow meta I do my dailies and events and so

[elfin hollow]

I'm running out of options. Would investing on sandy for F2 be worth it?

I've got like 15 gold bulins and I'm reaching the dock limits

[cobalt rapids]

show ur dock in a thread and we can see if u got enough ships for a 2nd fleet

[viscid swift]

F2?

[elfin hollow]

fleet 2

[sinful socket]

is Roon really good in OPSI ?

[stark quiver]

No

[elfin hollow]

Fleet 2 Comp. - Dock

[hollow gust]

Roon is actually really solid

[elfin hollow]

done. Idk but my dock looks insignificant with how less ships I have T_T

[hollow gust]

Rather use her then something like shima

[sinful socket]

imma level her up anyways for the research points

[hollow gust]

If you are new then use her lol, that augment made her dps really substantial

Same as Drake

[sinful socket]

tier list says she's not that bad, and I guess the backline is what I should be wary of more

[hollow gust]

That was pre augment

[sinful socket]

nah the tier list puts her there and says she's here because she depends on her augment

[hollow gust]

They finally updated

[sinful socket]

OPSI ain't that hard either way so i don't really care

[white agate]

yep, unless you include 1 shooting meta shodown ships

[sinful socket]

bro rn im doing the story x)

my META Showdown have 59k HP, it's chill

[viscid swift]

famous last words

[stark quiver]

is there ay way to sync a 2 hvar 1 skyraider yk2 to a oathed 200 fritz with 2 hvars

[viscid swift]

probably not

[stark quiver]

damn
i gotta oath them all then

[cobalt rapids]

why do they need to sync

[stark quiver]

cm

im trying to figure out how to time
cuz i asked stig and i got

[viscid swift]

yeah this aint gonna work out

[hollow gust]

You know that goes up in levels right?

[sinful socket]

ik

[viscid swift]

this is pretty much with max reload tech and cats as well

[cobalt rapids]

when u give fixed plane loadouts and they arent syncing there isnt much to do

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

this does work though

[insertsmugclarksonfacehere]

[stark quiver]

imagine, having two skyraiders

[hollow gust]

What are you guys running? This boss is simple as fk

[viscid swift]

nothing, can't be bothered to do it again

[turbid marsh]

newcastle?

[hollow gust]

I got like a 2:50 brute force

[stark quiver]

ima try to brute force it

[hollow gust]

Her movements mean you don't even have to run a slow

[white agate]

maybe something else instead of 2 hvar on fritz, sac a bit of damage(nvm they already replied)

[stark quiver]

im forced to run tenrai on y2

[hollow gust]

Run la-9 and hvar

[white agate]

fun fact, i literally lack damage vs newcastle cuz only 1 mk7 +13 and i use full bb with +10 mk6

[stark quiver]

my brute force takes like 6 mins

[hollow gust]

Don't overthink it

[stark quiver]

starting from nowm how long would it take to get 360 gun gol plates

[cobalt rapids]

2 months if ure lucky

[stark quiver]

maybe +13ing the 410 wasnt as good of an idea

[white agate]

without considering the all plates and the guild shop 10 plates every 4 day?

[cobalt rapids]

depends how much u use musashi

[cobalt rapids]

considering

[stark quiver]

i use her for meta
i found bb fleet to do better than cv 💀

[cobalt rapids]

then its not a bad investment

[cobalt rapids]

well not considering selectors
but even with selectors its < ~2months

[white agate]

i use bb for light/medium cuz i can differentiate and use cv for heavy; it made me use my plates in the most optimized way imo(ofc no dd/cl/ca gun gets +13 tho)

[cobalt rapids]

meta rn is mixed fleets anyway

[hollow gust]

Heavy is still sakura diff , as much as people glaze Soyuz nahkimov light , still does worst for me

[cobalt rapids]

cat soyuz light is only because their 4 strike tradeoff is better
if ure not 4 striking then they arent outdmging eagles per strike

[stark quiver]

i like soy nakh, mainly cuz im bricked to a tenrai on yk2

[hollow gust]

There is no content in the game other then CM right now that survives 3 eagle strikes

CM is a different matter and in for example Newcastle , Soyuz nahkimov Fritz isn't as good

Best time I got for them is 3:20

[stark quiver]

thats assuming equal/max investment for both fleets right?

[cobalt rapids]

max

[hollow gust]

I have max gear tech and oath

[hollow gust]

Yorktown difference

[sweet delta]

I got a 1:45 brute force

[hollow gust]

My cats are ass , really need to fix some things

[sweet delta]

What does brute force mean

[cobalt rapids]

if u kill it any faster they are gonna ban u again

[elfin hollow]

azur lane experience

[stark quiver]

i only have oaths on soy,nakh fleet,
and uneven oaths and no 2nd ad1 makes it even harder to sync

[elfin hollow]

cat gacha

[wind hazel]

my helena love me more than grey

[hollow gust]

Using my comp?

[stark quiver]

wtf is that emote

[lime wraith]

Does anyone know why I can’t start the Fate Simulation for Ägir?

[cobalt rapids]

because she doesnt have one

[stark quiver]

it doesnt exist

[lime wraith]

Bruh, really? Wow, how does that work? They gave Hakuryuu hers but not Ägir?

[cobalt rapids]

DR fate sims are random, on devs whims

[charred pollen]

It’s kinda random for DR’s

Just save up your prints for for, she’ll eventually get one

[lime wraith]

I see. Got it, thx for the help, guys.

[cobalt rapids]

aegir can be coined, u can convert her prints for protocore

[charred pollen]

He can convert the Marco Polo ones first since he has 700 of those

[cobalt rapids]

well both, altho 343 marco prints will go bb

[unique lantern]

is there any new addition to the guaranteed UR pool planned? tomorrow ill be at 400 and im only missing uvh, do i grab her or wait for the next one?

[stark quiver]

nothing planned afaik

[white agate]

it's not like you can wait either way, no? also next addition is vanguard iirc?

[cobalt rapids]

yea vanny should be next, in terms of UR

[charred pollen]

Nothing coming soon

[undone plover]

u could but it is annoying

[unique lantern]

mhhh i already have more than enough bbs, i dont really plan on upping uvh, but if nothing is planned (or it is vanguard, which i have) starting the next count it is

oh wait what

since when is kronshtadt in the selection

[cobalt rapids]

i would get uvh and level her for her rld tech at lb0, if ure farming tech

[charred pollen]

You’ll most likely be back at 400 by the time vanguard comes around so you can just get a dupe of the UR you need to mlb (if any) or just get her and I guess retire her

[unique lantern]

i guess kron it is

[cobalt rapids]

not kron

[unique lantern]

i dont need anymore 😭

[charred pollen]

Well if you need kron then select her

[sweet delta]

Who doesn't need more BB RLD?

[cobalt rapids]

i meant this

[mild sail]

Do I take this?

[undone plover]

1.5 G if u care about gear
bayard if u care about maxing bayard fast

[sweet delta]

What is Kron gonna do for you other than crossfleet?

[unique lantern]

idk, more than the uvh thatll collect dust until i have bullins

[mild sail]

Well I guess g-412 it is

[sweet delta]

And Kron won't collect dust until you have bulins how?

[unique lantern]

[charred pollen]

You can just get uvh and use that instead of the bulin

[undone plover]

u can get UvH to 120 without bulins and get 1 rld for your BBs

[white agate]

also remember that if you don't use copies of perma pool to mlb your ships when you have all the perma pull maxed and get to 400/400 if you retire the ship you won't gain special core since that counts toward the 5k monthly limit

so, using dupes of perma pool to mlb the original is ideal

[unique lantern]

oh ya been meaning to ask, while im running research focus vi (finishing hindenburg) is shimanto or kearsarge higher priority?

[soft raft]

Shimanto

[unique lantern]

tbh i don't even know what either of them are good for

[cobalt rapids]

if ure planning to finish the season as a whole then u should pick DR faces over PR faces

[unique lantern]

not trying to finish them all, just finishing hindenburg for now, no idea what i do next

[undone plover]

stay until u get 1 hinden gun then move on imo
focus Q, G and hinden faces

[undone plover]

how many of this gun prints u have

[unique lantern]

🥲 i hate these

[weary gust]

That's the easiest part of PR/DR.

[hollow gust]

thats the easiest part, you can grind all 3.6 in like a day

[unique lantern]

actually, any of these i should focus? already got a ply gun

[mild sail]

What are the treasure chest mean?

[undone plover]

hidden zones
u should clear all icons on the map by the end of the month

[unique lantern]

i also have no idea what you mean by q and g, i feel like someone already told me and i immediately forgot :c

[keen sable]

Green daily Yellow hidden red abyssal

[undone plover]

have you bought any prints from the prototype shop for any of these?
might as well screenshot that page as well

[unique lantern]

i bought a big chunk of tenrais iirc and some ply guns

[undone plover]

show better

[unique lantern]

actually the other way around (dont ask)

should probably do tenrais for the second one i guess

[undone plover]

u can buy 12 of the gun to get 1 copy if u dont have

[unique lantern]

but i dont have the cores to buy the tenrai

[keen sable]

What did you do? Spend dr7 prints on hindy?

[undone plover]

analyze your cdc packs
and excess BPs u have (for ships that are already dev30/FS5

[cobalt rapids]

ure not getting a full tenrai even if u buy all so no point till u get 6 more prints if ever

[undone plover]

if your plymouth is maxed and she is missing her gun that should be your prio for now
1 tenrai is fine
ignore the tenrai prints for now
we can get 2nd copy later

[unique lantern]

i might have, that bad?
i probably should have spent longer in r6 for the bps, ye?

[eternal basalt]

As in, the 20th of feb

[cobalt rapids]

not rly, time is better spent in s7

[hollow gust]

i got 2:30 too now lmao

[unique lantern]

ah aight, most of the mistakes i make are because im impatient af and al progress is so slow 🥲

[undone plover]

ok to simplify it
1- get the plymouth gun (the quad CL gun) by buying 12 more prints when u have the protocore
2- finish hindenburg dev30 and get the hinden gun (once hinden is maxed buy enough prints to make the gun as well)
3- go to pr7

can skip step 2 if u dont care about hinden

[twilit sage]

guys im trying to finished kerasage data collection mission, im getting 0 xp after every sorties for NJ does this mean nothing is accumulating now?

[unique lantern]

already got one, im still occasionally take r5 stuff because the rest is trash, so ill eventually get the second one

[cobalt rapids]

ships capped for any reason count towards cdc missions even if they show 0 xp
just sortie some more

[undone plover]

yeah that is fine
then step 2 > step 3

[unique lantern]

order?

[twilit sage]

ok, thought i was cooked for a sec since NJ is my only Eagle union mainfleet

[undone plover]

for research get hindenburg faces
and then G4h or G1.5h (the research options have letter labels for example D-xxx, G-xxx
Q also good overall u can take it if no other options

[cobalt rapids]

who ate enterprise

[eternal basalt]

And all the other US main fleet

[hollow gust]

and saratoga, pennsylvania etc etc

[twilit sage]

i havent use her in a long minute

[undone plover]

>

[cobalt rapids]

also u can get some USS mainfleets in the guildshop

[undone plover]

should max nakhimov then napoli
the SRs will slowly get to dev30 by themselves and none of them are very high prio
should get D research for nakhimov and napoli
then any Q research or G4h > G1.5h

but I am a bit confused are u on pr6 or pr7 focus atm

[cobalt rapids]

i would rush hindy and skip straight to 7 and finish hindygun whenever enough protocores to buy the remaining prints

[unique lantern]

OH you mean these letters.... it took me 10 minutes to realise there was text

im usually only looking for faces, if there are none im looking at the red part trying to find rigging and then grant if i cant

[twilit sage]

wish i can start series 7 soon but i dont have northern parliament or Sardegna empire tech points

[undone plover]

that is good
but I would prioritize rigging and grant over the faces of the gold ships unless u really like them or they are really good like shimanto

[unique lantern]

yea im doing that, except with shimanto now since shes important? i guess

what are you using shimanto in anyways

[undone plover]

sure that works
so max hindy and shimanto and move on to 7

[unique lantern]

im currently preparing kazagumo for my sakura cv fleet and have a unicorn sara independence fleet for mobbing

so far ive also never been recommended a fleet with shimanto (maybe cus i dont have her but ye..)

[undone plover]

shimanto is mainly for campaign

[keen sable]

What you need to do is catchup shimanto and get rid of her face otherwise this is going to take you months.

[undone plover]

oh yeah good call
shimanto does have catchup now so definitely use it on her

[unique lantern]

never really had problems with campaign except time to manual, so im forever stuck at 13-1 because im not doing the stages

[keen sable]

Related trying to sneak only one ship out of a season is ill advised

[unique lantern]

as soon as this is done

[keen sable]

Clearing out shimanto face is far more important

[unique lantern]

but muh hindi

[twilit sage]

also clearing out faces need to go all the way until fate sims finished right?

[unique lantern]

i would be done with shimanto as soon as i finished the catch up

[hollow gust]

hinden sucks 🚮

[cobalt rapids]

well 96 bps shorts but close yes

[unique lantern]

tho that catch up would take me like 1 month or more

[twilit sage]

i want to start brest after Kerasage finished, but also I still need august von and shimanto

[undone plover]

in 1 month u are likely done with this season and can move on to series 7, maybe 1.5

[twilit sage]

let alone my Iris Libre fleet suck

[hollow gust]

they are nowhere near the same season, should be doing one at a time

and it doesnt matter if your french fleet sucks, its just exp grinding

[carmine heath]

after I finish AVP what ships should I dev? Agir and that one german BB in pr2 are just waiting for cdc and I cant do karage yet

[storm heron]

If you are doing cdc then you gotta be developing those ships, no?

or if you're talking about coining then just coin whatever's available

[pulsar drum]

Is there any way to get Tempesta gear during normal times when their events aren't going? Besides the 12-pounder in the core shop

[carmine heath]

Sorry, get started on developing*

I think currently its somewhere between anchorage and plymouth?

[ivory pawn]

There's some auxes in the core shop too. But yeah, that's it.

[pulsar drum]

Ah, didn't see those. But ya, meant weapons specifically. Wonder if that will change any time.

[storm heron]

I would do pr4 research focus and prioritize gear research til 1 tenrai

[keen sable]

no such thing as an iris libre fleet. tech might call for it but cdc is far more relaxed

[storm heron]

idk what u mean by start developing, you shouldn't do ply before completing fdg's or agir's cdv

[storm heron]

yea the main fleet tempesta weapon and some other auxiliaries are currently not available

[pulsar drum]

Neither is the Old Heavy Cannon

[elfin hollow]

ugh rng sucks for grabbing the yellow ships

i need more carrier ships for unicorn retro...ugh

[soft raft]

Did you have a question?

[hollow gust]

huh? shouldnt need rng for unicorn thing,u can cheese for multiple carrier pieces

[inner verge]

why does my 0 limit break yamashiro cost 6 oil?? wiki says 4 oil cost, did it change?

[hollow gust]

cause higher level mean more oil too

[inner verge]

oh

[white agate]

that is to avoid players from abusing level 100 stokpiled exp

[cobalt gate]

well EN never got the lvl 100 thing

ugh i hate farming for affinity

[sweet delta]

Did you have a question?

[cobalt gate]

i guess, so this sp4 is basically the best bang for buck oil to affinity gain if i'm doing multiple ship?

[stark quiver]

as of now yes

[cobalt gate]

i see, ugh just feels like everything else feels so bad

[stark quiver]

average sp stage

[cobalt gate]

or i can ignore the affninity and just keep on farming as regular

[storm heron]

[elfin hollow]

gem priority?

[cobalt gate]

dock space

[elfin hollow]

like dorm talent idk

[cobalt gate]

dorm 2nd floor

[storm heron]

try to do /gems in bot-spam

[elfin hollow]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[elfin hollow]

how to get dorm 2nd floor?

[storm heron]

you have to fully expand the first floor

which takes like a good month? worth of dorm token

[elfin hollow]

i accidentally bought the 4th training space on dorm...how screwed

[cobalt gate]

is there kinda of a worth to point for the event exchange?

[storm heron]

unfortunate

[stark quiver]

do w/e you want

[elfin hollow]

how to get a lot of xp for lvl 1 ship to lvl 70

[white agate]

anyhow, my phone does not vibrate when a sortie ends; i enabled the option to do it tho and it does when i find a super rare ship drop so it's not a volume setting issue

[soft raft]

Use XP books

[elfin hollow]

besides that

[soft raft]

Dorm

[elfin hollow]

like how do you farm with team?

[white agate]

dorm+ mvp+flagship

[soft raft]

Don't bother trying to farm lvls if they're lvl 1

[elfin hollow]

when do you do it

[soft raft]

Usually like lvl 100 since that's the same lvl as W12 enemies so there's no lvl disadvantage

And lvl 100 isn't too hard with XP books + dorm

[worldly pewter]

nothing big
it doesn't impact much on the dock slots
so use the additional 2 slots happiliy

[hidden smelt]

Why can't I see any pr 4 research

[shell willow]

you are guaranteed 3 researches to show up from the focused season, otherwise its just random

[rocky sail]

Is there a way to turn off the vibration on obtaining 5*?

[hollow gust]

settings options

[rigid onyx]

is sp4 this event notably inefficient compared to other events (i.e. d3)? i've been considering doing 1:1 sp3 brainrot

[storm heron]

SP4 is worse in terms of coins and cog chips compared to low oil + w12. In terms of exp though, SP4 is good

[rigid onyx]

regular event d3s are also worse compared to w12 I'm really just questioning if sp4 is worse than most d3s

essentially is 4 oil sp3 + w12 with the saved oil from event point efficiency more efficient than just sp4?

[viscid swift]

yes

the latter I haven't done any math on but I personally wouldn't espeically with the amount you get from missions and daily clear bonus

[barren barn]

Hi is a new ur supposed to come this month?

[soft raft]

going off of the last 3 years, yes later this month

and there's a non-zero chance of Implacable rerun afterwards

[barren barn]

Ty i was scared of not getting an ur

[rain vine]

they already announced 4 new UR build events, and they need to be spaced out reasonably well

[sweet delta]

when did they announce it?

[storm heron]

there's an announcement?

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

they annoucned that?

[eager mulch]

i don’t remember any announcement

congratulations ig

[rain vine]

was i misinformed?

[stark quiver]

do you have source

[rain vine]

no source
i was looking at a pinned message in the other community server about the current event rerun and it said there were 4 planned for 2025

[boreal wagon]

4 is what u could reasonably expect based on past patterns but its technically not a hard confirmation

[forest palm]

either way you have UR Reruns, and Perm URs piling in

[crisp raven]

it has been hard confirmed in the past, but it wasnt for 2024, and nothing confirmed for 2025. just guessing on past trends

[stark quiver]

for what i know
the devs could prank us and do 0 UR
never a 0%

[stark quiver]

also, what server?

[sweet delta]

the other community server

[robust jasper]

What one?

[rain vine]

doesnt really matter, ill just keep the thing in mind

[robust jasper]

There's 4 ur's.

Which factions are the ur's from?

[stark quiver]

it wasnt even official

[crisp raven]

there MIGHT be 4, and the factions are whatever the devs choose

[viscid swift]

no clue, we haven't even got confirmation there will be 4 UR events this year, let alone what faction they'll be from

as a word of advice, there's pretty much no leaks in AL so if hasn't been announced by an official source yet then it's not been confirmed

[elfin hollow]

ok

[honest vector]

When is the deadline for setting a secretary ship for the Valentine mail?

[stark quiver]

should be before valentines day reset

[keen sable]

change focus to 4...but don't?

[river junco]

Why set PR research to series 4? All the ships are coinable and Tenrai will be in gear lab soon

[misty tree]

When in doubt, Q30 right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[lament ledge]

finally got my sd retrofit

[soft raft]

#trophy-room or #al-general is that way

Unless you have a question you forgot to add onto the end of that statement

[cosmic mantle]

Where can I use this?

[stark quiver]

On ships

[cosmic mantle]

Um yeah but how to? I can't find the option to use it

[stark quiver]

Click on a ships exp bar

Boost xp

[cosmic mantle]

Ohh dang didn't see that, thanks

[carmine heath]

For an all z fleet which ships should be in it?

[forest palm]

it's probably gonna be 52, Felix, 47, don't know why you'd want to even bother with Z Destoyers

[slow fox]

Why not Felix Z1 52

[cobalt gate]

wonder if valentine will repeat after a certain amount, did enterprise for 4 years

[forest palm]

it's a zed fleet it's doomed from the start

[humble tapir]

is the kii howe or washington more worth leveling?

[plain saffron]

the sentences? nope

each year each ship gets new sentences, you can't get past years one

[late flame]

meta viewpoint? none
othewise kii is FP+2, howe FP+1 and wash is uh.. AA+2 at lv120

[humble tapir]

oh oke

[outer schooner]

How long has that storage for oil/gold been there?

[storm heron]

almost a year ago

[outer schooner]

It only just now appeared when I logged in for some reaosn.

[storm heron]

are you kr/tw server?

[outer schooner]

USA.

[plain saffron]

the tutorial? prob because you hit 100 mail limit

[outer schooner]

Don't believe it was tutorial. Hm.

[plain saffron]

then wdym by just appeared

[outer schooner]

Bruh, I don't even know. xD sometimes my oil will be so full that I can't claim stuff, but when logging in today (was on a few days ago) this storage thing I've never seen appeared.

But I never read patch notes, so I was curious how long I'd been missing it.

[fleet berry]

For Valentine mail: who will give me the mail if I enable random secretary mode? Is it still the one that receive affection (ie the one in the secretary setting, not the one in the random pool)?

[lament ledge]

should i do war archives

[stark quiver]

your leftmost

[soft raft]

only for either of the following reasons:

1. Farming for the tech points (EX: Divergent Chessboard)
   2) Skyboud if you cant get Jeane De Arc to show up in merit shop nvm I remembered wrong
2. Doing the maps to get the story cutscenes
3. Grinding collection %
4. Doing Passionate Polaris SP5 for a easy map that has oil cap if you havent gotten to W9 yet

[storm heron]

Skyboud if you cant get Jeane De Arc to show up in merit shop

[carmine heath]

What IS the valentines mail? Is it critically important

[soft raft]

not really
it's just flavour text

but people care about it cuz waifu reasons

[carmine heath]

ah so something I will care about in 3 years time

[copper glacier]

Who do I give the event gun to?

[storm heron]

is jeanne really in the merit shop? the wiki not updated

[stark quiver]

is it?

actually , no shes not wtf

[storm heron]

[fleet berry]

The one not in the random secretary pool, right?

[plain saffron]

yes

[mystic acorn]

weapon efficiency does not affect the reload right?

just the damage?

[copper glacier]

Does Agir have Fate Simulation? I've maxed her out but I'm not seeing the Fate Simulation option that I see on the other ships like Cheshire.

[rigid onyx]

damn kicks isnt in the list anymore

[ivory pawn]

No clue when she'll get it either, DR fate sims are rather random.

[plain saffron]

yes

[mystic acorn]

got it

[copper glacier]

How do I make Agir better? She's lvl 100 and is performing worse than my SR Iron Blood tank ships in my vanguard. I assume it's just an equipment thing if she is doing poorly?

[stark quiver]

why would it be?
unless its for pvp, which the prowler prob killed it

[stark quiver]

show equip

[soft raft]

fuckin hell why do I keep thinking JdA is in merit

[soft raft]

First off: Is she at least D25?

[amber nebula]

How good is Brünhilde?

[sweet delta]

Good gold by the standards of three years ago

[soft raft]

Realistically tech fodder

[amber nebula]

Level 70
Gold 380 twin SK/C34 (+7 upgrade)
Gold 100 t98 twin high-angle gun (+5 upgrade)
Gold pompom (+7 upgrade)
Gold High Standard FCR (+4 upgrade)
Purple toolkit (+9 upgrade)

Brün’s current specs

[sharp echo]

brunhilde team is double BB in fleet?

or even triple ?

[amber nebula]

Brün is in my fleet 5.
Back line has Dunk and Bern

Dunk is lv104, Bern is lv62

[soft raft]

Yeesh that's very scuffed besides the HSFCR
Also why the fuck do you have 5 fleets

what even Are your fleets?

[copper glacier]

She's D30. I checked her equipment. 😅 She, uhh, didn't have any. I'm assuming that was my problem. Because now she seems to be doing ok now that she has all yellow.

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

jezz you gotta scale your fleets wayyyyyyyyy back

[amber nebula]

How? I'm not that active, so when I collect oil I need to make sure I have room for more. I buy naval curries by the hundreds when I don't have time for battling

[soft raft]

I mean for one, every single one of them is majory scuffed one way or another

[sweet delta]

There's only one level 125 and guess who it is 💀

[amber nebula]

Roon

[copper glacier]

I only have 6 125 ships and I've been playing every day for a year. So. Don't feel bad.

[amber nebula]

And P.Eugen

[sweet delta]

Sorry, two. Didn't see illus

[stark quiver]

its 3 stig

but your point still stands

[late flame]

not great choices for 125 tbh

[sweet delta]

Oh wtf then 4, that last picture didn't appear for me

[stark quiver]

wait youre right

[amber nebula]

I have 4 lv125s in my fleets. I have another 5 in my dock

[stark quiver]

you need at most 2 fleets

[soft raft]

at this point post your dock in a thread cuz this is just a absolute un-organized mess

even for someone like you who doesnt play often, you're spreading your resources wayyyyyyyyyy too thin

[amber nebula]

50% on 11-3

This is why I feel so fucking lost when I hear you guys talk abt w15

[stark quiver]

type in thread

[sharp echo]

does brunhilde team consist of 2 bb or even 3 bb?
i saw that she old unit, still good?

[plain saffron]

depends on what content you talking about

iirc fdg brun uvh is BB opsi antilight fleet for a month

then got powercrept

[sharp echo]

whats uvh? sry still new

[amber nebula]

Ulrich von Hutten

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ulrich_von_Hutten

[sweet delta]

Stuck on 11-3 sounds oddly familiar

[stark quiver]

Also hi gph , is there anything I can change for taiho meta

[storm heron]

change the ships

[slow fox]

Use rudder

[sharp echo]

wait brunhilde using torp
how the heck torp aim with such far distance

[stark quiver]

without changing ships

[sharp echo]

oh nvm the slot is flexible

[nimble knoll]

What's better for farming coins, W9 or DC D4?

[plain saffron]

plygun for more FP

[late flame]

w9 if done with event

[stark quiver]

dafuq?

[slow fox]

<@&472236072743600148>

[storm heron]

ban

[plain saffron]

MY EYES

[stark quiver]

[nimble knoll]

DOES SOMEONE HAV3 BLEACH?! DELETE THAT SHIT

[late flame]

<@&460646206851252224>

[sharp echo]

why brunhilde have torp stats

[storm heron]

for her barrages

[plain saffron]

i need to go to theraphy after that

[nimble knoll]

Same

[sharp echo]

[nimble knoll]

Not Da Event, But Divergent Chessboard D-4

[late flame]

unless you need any ironblood ships, not worth* going war archives
also more worthwhile to hit at least w11 or w12 campaign

[nimble knoll]

Do u hit oilcap on 9-4 or smth?

[late flame]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[nimble knoll]

Oh, only when I 100% gotcha

[stark quiver]

bruh why did 4 scan helena do the same damage as no helena

[late flame]

w h i f f

[soft raft]

clearly the scan physically missed the boss

[keen sable]

2nd time, do not farm 9 when you have access to events and D3. 9 is a terrible farming spot.

[nimble knoll]

I need coins tho-

[keen sable]

9 is not better than war archives for coins

9 is not better than war archives for anything except nicholas

[rigid onyx]

w9 isn't terrible in relation to non-oil-cap maps but at the same time once you get into the realm of oil cap it is terrible

[forest palm]

Event nodes just end up being better than worlds 9 and 10

[cosmic mantle]

Is there an answer to all the questions of this event, I don't really know about this game😅