gameplay-help

[forest palm]

das the plan

[thick plume]

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm trying to play the SP1 stage but I just can't enter it. Whenever I press "GO" at the fleet selection screen it just exits back

[wind hazel]

can you take a video?

[thick plume]

I can play other stuff like Hard mode maps and stuff butt not this idk why

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

as always, try restarting your game

[white agate]

eventually restarting the phone may do something too if restarting the game does nothing

[thick plume]

Ok now it works thanks

[tender girder]

are you guys grinding the points? or just waiting for daily x5 & ESP?

[white agate]

do that and you get 20k points by doing all dailies if you judge it's enough for you then just do that

[ivory pawn]

I’ll be grinding points myself. Unless I drop Blucher then I’ll need about 30k points to get everything important-ish out of the shop.

[sweet delta]

Is 3 oil fleet on safe SP3 safe?

[white agate]

idk, i am using 5 oil fleet for sp4; boss uses 30 oil tho

[tender girder]

who is in the 5 oil fleet?

and what equipments are they wearing?

[white agate]

cassin downes ranger, they use standard gears

[tender girder]

that's.. 4 oil?

[stark quiver]

They use good gear
And you need a lot of crossfleet

And that’s 5 oil

[sweet delta]

If the ranger is level 34 or higher then it's 5 oil

[white agate]

why sp3 btw?

[stark quiver]

Cuz your gonna die in sp4

[sweet delta]

In case I manage to farm 6 bluechers from sp4 in less than a week, I could use 2 more graf zeps

[white agate]

then i guess sp3 with 3 oil on safe is safe since i was barely able to 1st clear it with 5 oil fleet and no ur gear(also no +13,and downes has an hedgeog equippd wich is useless here )

[eager mulch]

nah id win

[twin spoke]

Does this event really have no hard mode? .w.

[stark quiver]

No

[twin spoke]

Damn thas a first

[soft raft]

SP Format events dont have a hard mode

[soft raft]

not really, cuz it's been like this for SP events for years
unless you're decently new to this game

[white agate]

anyhow assuming sp3 with 3 oil fleet full clear and sp4 with 3 oil fleet and 30 oil for boss fleet and assuming sr drop rate 1.5% then sp3 and sp4 are equal in farming for points(with the exception that sp4 once you get mlb blutcher is no more worth it)
i forgot to input the 10 oil for strating the sortie in both cases , then sp4 is the more efficient one ofc till blutcher is mlb

[storm heron]

gear skins wise which sp better

[white agate]

idk, never buyed a gearbox with gold in my life

[soft raft]

what
pretty sure you dont get gear skins off of maps

and they're literally just skins, just get the ones you like

[undone plover]

this event has no 3x or 5x bonus right?

[white agate]

x5 first clear of the day

[eager mulch]

what’s the prio to get in the event shop

[stark quiver]

tickets
blucher
gun w/e else

[uncut wren]

what stage to farm in this event?

[soft raft]

SP4

SP3 if you want to try and get Graf Zep but note that only SP4 has oil cap

[sweet delta]

Does boss fleet cost being under oil cap affect clearing rewards?

[white agate]

it shouldn't i think; but then we don't have certanty on the thing

maybe drop rate is tied to the level of the mob? nobody ever tried to do a houston 2 drop rate table for w15?

[ashen star]

is the 5x points for event map daily or just once

[stark quiver]

sp3 was ez to 4 oil

[keen sable]

so you use a 21 oil fleet on a 20 oil cost limit map...saving you -4 ships worth of xp - time

[stark quiver]

[white agate]

yeah, when i noticed i started using a 5 oil fleet

[turbid dawn]

Why do X-fleet barrages increase the reveal meter of CVs? And have they always done this and I've only just noticed?

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

what in the reveal meter

[cobalt gate]

is there a comparision between gold D vs blue D research for rainbow prints?

[storm heron]

:bagathonk:

[white agate]

you usually avoid faces when doing gear researches, but blue is better than purple and gold for D's

[storm heron]

seems like it's because of opportunity cost

[cobalt gate]

i mean i still need rainbow prints

for the character thats was what i meant

[white agate]

oh, if for the character, then let me check

blue still better

[storm heron]

oh character, imo gold then

[white agate]

but gold may be better due to the fact you farm the specific face for more time and you are not granteed that refreshes has that same face after 2.5h

[storm heron]

but didn't gold guarantee a certain face

[white agate]

blue grantees 1, purple 2, gold 3
gold is 8h and blue is 2:30h, but you should not be biased only toward blue being more efficient, because you are not granteed after the 2:30h face research you get another with that same face, while gold grantees that for you 3 times in a row with little bit less efficency i guess

[keen sable]

it's impossible to get off-face from a face

[white agate]

yep, therefore blue should give more prints/hour

[cobalt gate]

is there a link to the resource for this efficency?

[white agate]

what i meant is after the research is finished you are not granteed to get another research featuring that very same face, i hope i was not misunderstood

https://pasokau.com/manual_psyencelabo#google_vignette
i think this should be

well, use google lenses

btw is there a fighter a bit faster than hellcat for campaign?(with surface damage too,but not garbo)

[sweet delta]

/wiki list of fighters

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Fighters

[vale spindle]

Yep they always do if the cv is the flagship

Cause it's considered a barrage fired from the flagship, just with some scaling from the original ship that had the cross fleet skill

[white agate]

@sweet delta guess this is trustable Kawanishi N1K4-A Shiden Kai 4? i had checked the wiki, but i still have my prejudices about sakura fighters

[sweet delta]

What's cooking

[tulip zenith]

Is cv concealment just whenever they take damage

[white agate]

getting my flagship cv mvp , i know it's bad, but i want main tech fast even saccing vanguard tech

[storm heron]

/wiki concealment

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[storm heron]

/concealment

[soft raft]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[eager mulch]

/detection

[storm heron]

[elfin hollow]

what is the best path for ban appeals?

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[stark quiver]

what?

[tulip zenith]

How do u get banned in Azur lane 😭😭😭😭

[elfin hollow]

I don't know. I've been playing the game normally. Then my account was banned this morning

[stark quiver]

contact customer support

[storm heron]

did you make a high score in EX

[turbid dawn]

I'm presuming every type of barrage increases detection gauge too then no matter if it's bullet or plane based?

[inland shoal]

Well technically there's a parameter that every "barrage" has that specifies how much it reveals iirc

[hollow gust]

Where did you get kearthonk

[worldly pewter]

sometimes when u are too good at the game u get banned

[stark quiver]

those who know 💀

[sweet delta]

[hollow gust]

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[robust jasper]

[storm heron]

[white agate]

anyhow breguet + Kawanishi N1K4-A Shiden Kai 4 seems pretty fast, is Kawanishi N1K4-A Shiden Kai 4 secretly underpowered, i did not see it in the gear lab recomendation, but it seems a good accelerator?

[storm heron]

what is bro accelerating

[eager mulch]

why would you want to use shiden kai 4

[white agate]

it's faster than pancake and hellcat

[hollow gust]

Oh that peice of shit

[eager mulch]

and what does that change

[white agate]

if i hit before the crossfleet i do damage counting towrd mvp

[storm heron]

pancake wyvern vs shikai4 breg

[eager mulch]

we are reaching new levels of copium

[forest palm]

being faster doesn't mean better...

[stark quiver]

what is this mvp control strat

[storm heron]

might as well not use crossfleet if you wanna gimp damage

[eager mulch]

Atomic bomb vs coughing baby

[hollow gust]

Why wyvern , use a spearfish

[crimson glacier]

why spear when wyvern

[undone plover]

u are running beacon right?

[hollow gust]

Spear better and faster

[forest palm]

wouldn't really say better

[storm heron]

hmm I probably will consider once I have more than a spearfish

[white agate]

that's the neat part; i could

[undone plover]

why are u not tho

[white agate]

fast enough already

[hollow gust]

Wyvern main advantage is intercept , if don't need , spear 4 life

[crimson glacier]

like only place where that matters is like, w14?

and wyvenrs deal with it just fine too

[forest palm]

even there it's not much of an advantage

[hollow gust]

Run good aa, don't need wyvern

[forest palm]

the irony where Wyvern is good AA

[crimson glacier]

or run wyvern and run good AA while losing nothing

[storm heron]

spearfish rocket didn't whiff in w14?

[white agate]

surface damage

[hollow gust]

If you rely on wyvern intercept for aa then you are fucked already

[crimson glacier]

same could be said about spear rockets

[forest palm]

love how you ignore that it is additional AA

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

continue to ham fist your point it's funny

[white agate]

i mean, spear and wyvern uses different ordinance so...

[eager mulch]

I thought spearfish were good

[forest palm]

that is another point of contention, cost

[crimson glacier]

they are good

[hollow gust]

They are essentially the same? Both AA and surface damage are supplemental that improves your reliability. I prefer my faster planes with greater surface damage , you can prefer your AA

[forest palm]

sounds like an cop-out

[hollow gust]

Sounds like you never use the planes?

[forest palm]

I have

notice literally no difference

[hollow gust]

They are essentially the same?

[turbid dawn]

I've only ever used spearfish in single target, light armoured boss fights and that's it

[forest palm]

and that seems to be it's only real place

[eager mulch]

I’ve only ever used ryuuseis against light

[crimson glacier]

is it even any better for light armor

[eager mulch]

but this was before we got the new vit 2s

[forest palm]

the rockets are like 110/100/80 so they are practical for Light use

[crimson glacier]

yeah but they have really low base dmg

[forest palm]

I did say practical

[barren tapir]

wyvern good

[white agate]

people +13 wyvern and spearfish?

[crimson glacier]

i see no reason to +13 wyvern

[forest palm]

I sure as fuck don't lol

[barren tapir]

wyvern good doesnt mean +13 wyvern whats even the topic?

i think i just saw someone say wyvern aa bad tho

[forest palm]

just Grey saying the Spearfish is better while in the same breath calling them the Same which is funny

[eager mulch]

standard wyvern vs spear fish debate

[white agate]

they were talking about boss damage, i assume for bossing you +13 dps gears, therefore my concern

[crimson glacier]

both suck for bosses

[barren tapir]

why cant we agree both good

[forest palm]

cause Grey has to be right

[white agate]

i tried to tell them they use different ordinance to build them so you can enjoy both

[barren tapir]

wyvern better to me tho if cost is a thing, cos iirc fish uses ordnance?

[forest palm]

it is

[barren tapir]

or am i tripping, i havent looked at fish

[crimson glacier]

i think wyvern is more expensive but idk

[forest palm]

players working their way through gearing will have ended up having enough mats to craft 3 Wyvern before they can craft a single Spearfish, at that point there is no point to craft a Spearfish outside of luxury

[barren tapir]

spearfish is 9 ur ordinance but wyvern costs more electronics

[hollow gust]

T2s can be crafted up to T3s, either way having multiple are end game luxuries

[forest palm]

and if you're going to suggest a player convert Ords then you're just telling them to harm themselves

[barren tapir]

also wouldnt 457 be better before spearfish anyway and there's also every chance tenrai costs oords

[storm heron]

crafting drake gun

[barren tapir]

if wyvern and spearfish are reasonably alike in function

then wyvern should generally be preferred as it uses a different resource while fish shares with 457 and soon to be tenrai (most likely)

[crimson glacier]

i was thinking of the cost to even reach the plane

[storm heron]

also how is drake gun costing 9 lmao

[forest palm]

T2 Ords have some very popular Gear worth crafting, so yes you are screwing over a player by telling them to convert to T3

[barren tapir]

i could really only see fish being suggested if it was significantly better than wyvern but everything ive heard on this suggests otherwise

[forest palm]

if they vastly change how you acquire Ords then maybe? but like Tenrai is coming, and it'll probably require Ords which then fuck the Spearfish at that point

[barren tapir]

since ur only guaranteed 1 UR ordnance a month (rest have to come from conversion) its a much more precious resource to me than UR prints or electronics or core data for that matter (which can be used to skip part of wyvern cost)

[white agate]

aren't nearly all t2 ords gears obtainable from pr1-7 gear farming with the exception of few like flapjack tho?

[glacial widget]

experimental xsb3c-1 my beloved

[storm heron]

do you think spearfish would have made manual w15 easier

[barren tapir]

[crimson glacier]

if you manual i doubt it makes any difference at all

[forest palm]

if you fail at manual that's just a skill issue

[barren tapir]

not a chance in hell lol having bonus AA helps more imo

[crimson glacier]

manual has more AA by default

[barren tapir]

i bought a breguet specifically for ch15 since i only had 2 wyverns. did good

correct but that doesnt mean you should skimp on aa if lacking in other areas already

[worldly pewter]

also if they maintain the same pattern i think the new ur aa will cost ordnances too

[forest palm]

ya that's a thing too lol

[soft raft]

ngl I completely forgot about that lol

[white agate]

, don't destroy my hope where nearly only research things uses ordinances

[hollow gust]

How many of those are you actually crafting the only ones you are crafting more then in are flapjacks and 410mle. Otherwise you aren't crafting much. Either way by the time you are crafting multiple rainbow prints you have more than enough resources. don't act like spearfish are exponentially more expensive

[storm heron]

but new UR AA cost UR prints tho

costed*

[barren tapir]

new players get wyverns much sooner than they can get a spearfish precisely because they are making flapjacks and 155kai and some others

[forest palm]

so that's where you shift the argument to make yourself sound good...brother it's about the fact that there is a demand for T2 Ords, and carelessly converting to T3 is just harmful

[soft raft]

Spearfish wasnt a research equip yet it costs UR ords
So who's to say the same wont happen to the new UR AA

[hollow gust]

Why are you assuming things I haven't said?

[white agate]

yep, that was the only exception, but then we have the mk7

[barren tapir]

by the time u would get a spearfish with ords conversion that doesnt overly hinder flapjack production, u already have at least 3 wyverns so like why bother?

[forest palm]

because I'm looking at it from a newer player perspective, not some old player who is sitting on every resource they could ever need how is this hard to understand

[storm heron]

also I got affinity-scammed, SP4 oil cap cost is cheaper

[hollow gust]

** by the time you are crafting multiple rainbow prints you have more than enough resources. don't act like spearfish are exponentially more expensive**

[sweet delta]

Spearfish isn't research academy but spearfish is prototype

[barren tapir]

is spearfish actually significantly better than a wyvern

cos if not it doesnt sound very good to use resources on it.

also it's shared with 457 which is good in campaign progression

[sweet delta]

Yes it's significantly better than wyvern against light armor bosses

[hollow gust]

Taz is mad that I preferred spearfish more then his wyvern

[barren tapir]

i feel like if both cost the same then maybe but spearfish costs a lot more imo

[forest palm]

I'm not mad, you just called it better, and I called that bullshit

[barren tapir]

i still only have like 4 ords or something, i forget.

[glacial widget]

in what situation would any player actually craft a spearfish over the other 2 here

[stark quiver]

after you have a lot of those 2
or enough of those 2

[barren tapir]

you should tag goose with that

[sweet delta]

When they already have 2 457 and 1 drake

[glacial widget]

you wouldnt go for 2 drake?

[stark quiver]

why would you

[hollow gust]

Like in the initial statement I literally only said thats its better then wyvern because it's faster , and Taz jumped on it because he didn't backread the context

[barren tapir]

me with 0 of all of them and less than halfway to making 1 of any

[forest palm]

considering the UR AA is an upgraded ver of this, I'm gonna cope hard

[barren tapir]

also tenrai likely will use it too

[white agate]

idk, my long term plan is to keep t3 ordinances and to catch up with all pr so i can gear focus on pr1,2,3 to get the ur i lack

[cobalt rapids]

lacking drake guns is not a big problem to have

[sweet delta]

That's the most cursed plan I've read this week

[stark quiver]

this is the type of shit that deters newbies from asking questions here
got more internal conflict than any other channel

[rigid onyx]

Gear focus in the lab or as research

[white agate]

yep, once i catch up on La-7 and possibly pr 8 i will go pr-4 for the last tnrai,
pr-2 pr-6 pr-5

[sweet delta]

Fortunately all the gph mods are off

[barren tapir]

[glacial widget]

so what ive gathered, is that i should just go ahead and craft a spearfish

[rigid onyx]

There's always oppurtunity cost

[stark quiver]

idk should you?

[worldly pewter]

it is about how is ur gear and gear lab mat situation looking in the end

[cobalt rapids]

i dont recommend going back to pr4 for tenrai once it hits gearlab unless ure like 3 prints off 50
and abs not going in any research focus below 4 for any gear at all

[glacial widget]

well i dont need any more of these so why not ig

[storm heron]

eyy uto is back

[white agate]

i mean, i miss 20 prints and have finished all those in protocore shop(seems bad to have 30/50)

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

we have new UR gear coming on 20th
in gear lab

[rigid onyx]

I am deciding not to comment on spearfish vs wyvern

[soft raft]

Tenrai and a new UR AA are coming to gear lab on the 20th

the latter may or may not use ords

[worldly pewter]

i m 28 off

[viscid swift]

what on earth did I miss

[stark quiver]

a typical gph argument

[cobalt rapids]

because u gathered ur own data and in its in contradiction to the one i provided to you ?

[rigid onyx]

what did you provide to me

[storm heron]

when was blucher event announced again?

[sweet delta]

If catch-up la9 means like 4 la9 and catch-up pr8 means like 3+, and then you spend half a year on old research, then you'd end up with hundreds of T2 ordnances 🧓

[cobalt rapids]

ig u didnt see it because u ragequit the server

[stark quiver]

well seacat, they left before u sent it

[storm heron]

cause hell I think I lost my time and my oil

[viscid swift]

rerun? in the Patch Notes for week 2 of LNY

so 2 weeks ago

[storm heron]

ah yea screw me I guess, could've been prevented if I just read patch notes

affinity farming went wrong

[white agate]

official announcement on cn media was like 4-5 days ago tho, right?

[viscid swift]

yes, but the JP patch notes are an official source as well

[barren tapir]

true, long term ords isnt a major issue then?

[rigid onyx]

what was the support fleet if you dont mind me asking

[cobalt rapids]

lusty indom chenhai

[barren tapir]

also i guess after some time i can quit making flaps and make tigercats instead since those dont cost oords?

[sweet delta]

I had like 300 T2 ords by the time 457 was added, and I almost never bought them from port shops

[storm heron]

alright folks do we have a low oil thread?

[white agate]

how many flap are you gonna build?

[barren tapir]

wait is there a drop worth farming on this event-

[sweet delta]

Bluecher and graf zeppelin

[soft raft]

Graf Zep at SP3
Blucher at SP4

no notable gear drops

[barren tapir]

idk i have 6 atm, dunno how many i need but i like if i could have 1000lb fighter on every cv i use regularly...

so because flaps cost oords and tiger doesnt ive been wondering if i should make some of those..

[storm heron]

what's the lowest oil fleet that works for this event?

[white agate]

i have 2, i thought they wee enough

[viscid swift]

well for that purpose you may as well do Tigercat over Flapjack

[sweet delta]

3 oil

[storm heron]

was it like 5 oil sp3 or smth

[barren tapir]

i made up to 6 for ch15 and it was enough

[viscid swift]

it's what I did until W15 reared its head

[cobalt rapids]

then u dont need more 2x1000lb fighters

[forest palm]

could do Uni + DDG

[barren tapir]

great then maybe i can begin stocking oords

[stark quiver]

sup gph, hows the xp gain in sp4 compared to 12-1

[storm heron]

ehh? I heard someone did that and unique said something like uhh -1 oil, -exp and -time

[forest palm]

420 oil ain't so bad

[barren tapir]

i hate gearswapping and 500lbs feel bad. idk. it's a long term project

[viscid swift]

though if I'm being honest I don't use more than 6 2 x 1000 Ibs fighters at any point

and I have like 20 of them

[white agate]

btw, i think t1 ord can be crafted in t2 ord too; beware that some gears are only craftable via t1 ordinances tho

[storm heron]

also how do you do this?

[sweet delta]

Until w15 dropped, I had 1 flapjack, 2 tigercats, and 3 sea hornets

[stark quiver]

lvl 34> backline

[storm heron]

like sp2?

[barren tapir]

20 sounds like a good number

[stark quiver]

ew sp2

[sweet delta]

Sure it works on sp2, but sp2 doesn't drop graf zep

[barren tapir]

dw it isnt exactly a high priority on my list, moreso if i have in excess the mats required i might add to my stock

[storm heron]

so like sp3?

[sweet delta]

Idk 3 oil on sp3

[barren tapir]

tho honestly. idk what to focus on in the gearlab now maybe it is actually time to convert all my t2s?

[storm heron]

I see, so it's either 3 oil sp2 vs 5 oil sp3 with graf zep...

[stark quiver]

for what

[sweet delta]

Sp3 should cost 4 at max

[barren tapir]

tenrai and 457 ig

[rigid onyx]

Does anyone have the formula for how much reload affects the intercept rate of fighters

[white agate]

why not try 3*5 + 30 oil sp4?

[glacial widget]

my hatred of gearswapping has indirectly led to me having 12 flapjacks

[soft raft]

worse
iirc roughly around W10-11 like with D maps in regular events or slightly less

[cobalt gate]

is there an easy way to tell what armor type the boss is?

[storm heron]

3*6 you mean?

[barren tapir]

i can make a couple 155kai first but after that, not sure what else would be nice to have besides those UR gear

[storm heron]

wait it's 3*5

[white agate]

check the boss as a ship on the wiki, usually boss have the same armor as the ship

[stark quiver]

is that counting the oiil cost?

[white agate]

no, i mean 3*5 mob fleet and 30 for the boss fleet

[barren tapir]

my main 3 cls i use dont rlly care about 155kai but having one for helena would be good i suppose?

[soft raft]

hulltype is usually a good indicator (tho exceptions exist)
or if it's a chibi of a ship, check their playable counterpart either in-game or on the wiki

[cobalt gate]

gotcha so what i have been doing

[storm heron]

nah I'll take the t4 I guess

I'd like to save oil

[white agate]

idk, if drop rate for blutcher is 1,5% then i think sp4 is the best farming spot, by a slight margin tho

[worldly pewter]

wait a little bit until the new ur gun releases there is a 50% that it costs ordnances too

[boreal wagon]

rld affects them the same way as normal airstrikes
the launch rate is the same formula except not multiplied by 2.2 and if the plane has a separate intercept rate thats used instead of the normal cooldown

[storm heron]

is there subs in this event?

[white agate]

as opponents?,i don't think so

[elfin hollow]

Should i use her instead of prinz eugen or laffey or dont use her?

[hollow gust]

Well she is definitely better then prinz

Honestly not a bad 2nd tank

Sakura CV makes her even better

[storm heron]

depends on your ship, if you are still using 1 fleet then keep using the ships you have been using, namely eugen and laffey

you can consider her for a second fleet's tank though

[left cedar]

defines where she is better than Eugen ...
cuz in tank matter, definetly she is not

[storm heron]

omg peter strasser launch a bunch of planes

[left cedar]

and her buffs to CVs are really RNG

[forest palm]

25% to root

[white agate]

also skill is at level 1

[left cedar]

pretty much every time i talk about a ship is thinking in her lvled and maxed ...

[woven star]

too many Prinz in the game. I always confused with Heinrich and Eugen. At least one of them better tank

[left cedar]

thats why i always reffer to Eugen, Hein, Adal, Rupp ...

[sweet delta]

According to magic, chikuma only does 40% more damage than eugen

[woven star]

About SP4 event... ranger +z52 more then enough with min oil

[white agate]

you do all enemies? how much oil is it?

[woven star]

I'm trying 3 cv+3dd with 0lb (15 oil) for SP3 was fine but not for SP4

[elfin hollow]

That seems like alot to me

[white agate]

0*1.4=0

[sweet delta]

According to most people, eugen does 0 damage, and simple maths says that 40% more than 0 is 0

[woven star]

100 oil SP4

[storm heron]

gamer's 65* oil

[elfin hollow]

Mine sometimes did more dmg then my krohnstadt tough or is that just cause im early game?

[white agate]

i would try ranger, cassin and full fleet for boss, also 2 bb crossfleet and amagi and z52 crossfleet and whatever else you can stuff in boss fleet vanguard

[sweet delta]

cause you're not giving them fair testing probably

[rigid onyx]

There is no universe that a mlb geared eugen wins vs a mlb geared kron

[soft raft]

and i wouldnt be surprsied if that Kron isnt even LB1

[elfin hollow]

Yea probaly im early game rn so most stuff dies fast and easy

[left cedar]

something wrong is not right with ur gears
trust me
for this happens u need patience and a full fleet in a memeable place

[elfin hollow]

Whats LB1

[storm heron]

o7

[left cedar]

Should i save for blutcher?

[storm heron]

what are the crossfleets yall using

[stark quiver]

whats that
what stage

[soft raft]

Limit Break
they give stats and most importantly, decent chunks of their kit
Kronstadht's limit breaks for example

[white agate]

ranger gears?

[sweet delta]

What's that battle UI

[boreal wagon]

the new one from current cruise

[worldly pewter]

this needs a full result screen

[elfin hollow]

Ohh that yea didnt get one yet

[storm heron]

spearfish tenrai helldiver hpaar hpaar

[soft raft]

Yeah then dont use her for now
Also give this a read if you havent already https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[stark quiver]

wheres your second tenrai

[white agate]

what is hpaar???

[stark quiver]

also what stage

[soft raft]

AA Radar ⁉️

why the hell are you using AA Radar on a CV

[elfin hollow]

But she is an UR why would i not and most my sr arent either dont got the mats yet

[storm heron]

oh sry sp3

[storm heron]

yea the compass one from the cp

[left cedar]

some CM, idr
but its manuel and a full fleet just for her ... and she still fails

[stark quiver]

bro what are you running 3 oil?

[soft raft]

Yes UR Pog, you're not wrong
but that's mainly assuming MLB

[left cedar]

w8, its writed there, Libra

[storm heron]

ehh? is it not good? for combating planes

[sweet delta]

Why the hell are you saying why the hell to niche but reasonable things people do

[storm heron]

yeah

[white agate]

should have given bismark grey gun

[stark quiver]

skill diff

[sweet delta]

A Manjuu is better

[soft raft]

for CVs (Esp those that dont have a actual AA Gun mount), the AA stat mainly reduces crash damage taken from planes

[left cedar]

probally if i did that its gona be a fail, and even cats are for VGs ...

[storm heron]

makes sense, though this means I have to switch gears

[woven star]

not sure you can lower 4 oil fleet.... actually you can but.... 70 ranger and cassin 0lb 3+1 oil

[storm heron]

OH I mean 4 oil

[stark quiver]

just dont go past lvl 34 or smth

no way 4 oil is failing sp3
i full cleared with it first run

[white agate]

i used 5 oil due to cassin+ downes when first clear, but yeah

[vale cradle]

Which UR should i get from the UR exchange (i alr have nrw jersey)

[storm heron]

ok ok manjuu and uhh what else

[white agate]

mogador gun overkill , i use the versatile IB one

[stark quiver]

youre using shite gear so youre dying, just run what i ran, full clears first run

[sweet delta]

Are you talking about the same thing

[white agate]

i think you can use oxytorp instead of hedjehog here, or maybe some other dps aux imo( i did not see subs)

[soft raft]

Shinano > UvH > Kron == Shimakaze

[stark quiver]

idk i saw, sp3 > dying > 4 oil

which shouldnt be happening

[sweet delta]

Oh fr then there's an issue

[tropic tusk]

My fleet 3 should I swap amagi CV with AVP?

[stark quiver]

and miss all your torps?

[storm heron]

also for some reason mahan base has 40% more AA eff than the permanent ur dd

[white agate]

it depends if the boss moves or not

[tropic tusk]

in general in opsi

[white agate]

did you enchance and partially retrofit cassin/downes/ranger btw?

[storm heron]

ok I did some changes, and yeah the AA gun change really helps

[white agate]

yeah, enemy moves, keep avp;maybe amagi instead of haku, not 100% sure it may be situational

[forest palm]

if you have Eld Retro, sure, but you'll likely end up replacing Haku as it's safer

[tropic tusk]

ok 3q

[vale cradle]

Oh alr

[white agate]

btw start using cats, they give some nice stats even when not perfect

[tropic tusk]

ik im just sorting them

[vagrant steppe]

Is Sirius worth building if i dont got Kazagumo?

[hollow gust]

They do different things, so build both

[stark quiver]

shes worth building even without kazagumo

[slow fox]

This event wasn't very profitable in Rudders compared to passive Rudder income from Research + NJ Warchives. Only crafted like one maybe. Half a rudder.

[forest palm]

better than 0

[slow fox]

They are taking my collection for a joke

[storm heron]

idk why my downes got annihilated

[slow fox]

Does YatSen Umbrella give the 5% HP Barrier when not on Yat Sen?

[storm heron]

no way it's because the 30% hp

[slow fox]

Toolkit gives superior eHP compared to 550

[stark quiver]

cyanide towel and another thing

if its sp3, u dont need manjuu, and hpaar

[storm heron]

do I need hedgehog?

[stark quiver]

idt so

[storm heron]

so it's just the mog gun diff, 30% barrier diff, and like more cata damage

[remote charm]

just want to ask since when was the game updated to have lvl 200 to be the max level

[storm heron]

[eager mulch]

since I hit 199

[slow fox]

Why AA Radar?

Could we put some intercept on Ranger instead of AA Radar?

[storm heron]

intercept like what?

[soft raft]

Honestly it felt like the droprates for it plummeted off a cliff after the first day

[tropic tusk]

wts the name of the blue arrow? loading ace?

[tropic tusk]

thx, its so impossible to tell wt they are by just looking at the icon

[stark quiver]

tfw you roll a rainbow , think its flame, but its miracle

[zenith heron]

One is a mistake shit

[tropic tusk]

u see both same icon, they should change the icon

[white agate]

or destiny. i keep getting it

[ivory pawn]

At least Destiny is decent.

[slow fox]

You guys are all doubters. Miracle increases both eHP and DPS

[lavish dirge]

is enemy node spawns completely random? I just realized they change

[white agate]

i don't like the luck loss and i am superstitious too and we are in a gatcha

[white agate]

wiki page should have spawning points

[lavish dirge]

yeah but their spawn order and location is what im asking

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Convergence#tabber-tabpanel-SP3-0 have both

is that wht u looking for?

[lavish dirge]

nope

[soft raft]

The maps on wiki should have spawn locations

[lavish dirge]

you see their spawn points are known but not always same spots they change

[tropic tusk]

they change cause they move?

[soft raft]

Honestly in the long run it barely matters

[nimble knoll]

How could you increase recon?

[white agate]

more avi

use more cv/cvl

[nimble knoll]

How is Dis ain't enough? (Idk how it calcs)

[ivory pawn]

Part of the problem is probably the lack of Vanguards in the second fleet.

[spring bolt]

fleet 2 has no vanguard and will not be deployed in the map, so no stat from fleet 2

[nimble knoll]

Even when I do put a vanguard in, It's still not enough (it's above the lvl cap too)

Still the same

[carmine heath]

I dont think it matters all that much

you can just deal with the like 4 damage from airstrikes

[prime relic]

are there certain ships that I should save for and pull?

[turbid marsh]

new UR and UR reruns

[white agate]

waifu>new ur>ur rerun>best tech fodders>others

[prime relic]

are there like specific ones or just any

[robust moth]

And what if you hit the "Advice" button?

[carmine heath]

there's a ur event in 2 weeks so most people are saving cubes for that

[sweet delta]

Recon only counts the fleet with the higher recon.

[prime relic]

how much would i need

[carmine heath]

also since this event is rerun you get like free builds anyway

[turbid marsh]

i mean its going to be implacable and bismark 2 rerun soon, so these two are good

[carmine heath]

ideally 350+ at start of event

[prime relic]

oh i only have 200 rn

[carmine heath]

just to guarantee pity if skill isssu

[robust moth]

Oof. Need to level those girls up

[turbid marsh]

also new ur is coming too, so as long as its not a frontline, should be decent enough to spend the ur bulins in.

[prime relic]

alr

[carmine heath]

youll have enough by the time the ur event ends

[white agate]

put enty in place of vittorio

[carmine heath]

wait implac rerun?

[prime relic]

ok

[turbid marsh]

thats the next rerun but who knows when

[spring bolt]

only the fleet with higher recon will be calculated, you need to enhance fleet 1 recon or make fleet 2 has better recon

[nimble knoll]

There's no bomber ships?

[carmine heath]

the thing with d3 is that its comically easy for the level your ships are at

[white agate]

#gameplay-help message

[carmine heath]

suicide ships dont matter

[white agate]

aka use 3 cv in one fleet

[prime relic]

is there a team build guide? because I kinda just threw all the urs and the ssrs that look nice to my fleet

[stark quiver]

build teams based off of what content youre doing

[prime relic]

so is there like a list of ships for each content

[stark quiver]

no not really, though there are sample fleets u can copy

[ivory pawn]

There’s https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding and https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding to help you get an idea of the thought process.

[soft raft]

*Note that the first link is considered moderately outdated

it has also not been updated in a long ass time

[prime relic]

ok

[nimble knoll]

Since I got another VV, And she's already Mlb, Should I retire her? (I got her using da tickets)

[ivory pawn]

Nothing else to do with her that's really relevant. Maybe if you wanted to show off multiple skins in your secretary lineup.

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[soft raft]

there's no pratical justification to raising dupes regardless of rarity

[carmine heath]

4 of the exact same fleet

[sweet delta]

You have 6 fleet slots

[white agate]

people with 3 unicorn

[nimble knoll]

Is Blutcher gud?

[white agate]

pr/dr/ur and some sr options are better so tech fodder

[soft raft]

pretty good for a SR CA but that isnt enough to make her relevant enough outside of collection/tech fodder

which is realistically what all three ships on this banner are in the long run

[forest palm]

+FP

[storm heron]

[robust jasper]

Any way to guarantee I get the ssr from a map drop?

[viscid swift]

no

[storm heron]

in theory it will be guaranteed if you spend infinite oil but you probably do not want to do that as blucher is in the event shop

[robust jasper]

Aw

So I just have to keep on pulling to get brunhide?

[stark quiver]

no

3 pulls a day using free build tickets
farm sp4 foir blucher

[storm heron]

brunhilde's not even on the map drop

[stark quiver]

oh yea thats blucher

[storm heron]

I misread "pulling" as "playing"

[robust jasper]

Alr

[stark quiver]

but still do 3 pulls a day using tickets
then dump tickets last day

[soft raft]

Dont use cubes on this banner

It is highly likely we'll get a new UR at the end of the month and there is a non-zero chance that we might get Implacable rerun shortly after that

could be right after it back to back for all we know, it's happened before

[robust jasper]

Oh, bit late for that, eh

[stark quiver]

how mant cubes do u have left

[robust jasper]

95?

Of 130ish pre event

[soft raft]

Oof
tho better than most other new players

[robust jasper]

Lol

[zenith heron]

you gotta add that, since per UR is minimum 400 cubes needed if you might hit pity

[dreamy blade]

wait a couple years for it to be war archived and clear d3 of that 60 times

[robust jasper]

lol

[soft raft]

400 pity is only if you get extremely unlucky but yeah that's reccomended as a baseline in case you do get unlucky

like ive heard cases of people having to hit pity twice in a row and I myself have had to hit pity on two different occasions

[robust jasper]

Wow, maybe I'm not getting implac

[dreamy blade]

also on the off chance you get unlucky but lucky and you pull the UR while at 380 pity or w/e, you can finish it off and save yourself a UR bulin

[soft raft]

Ehhh that I wouldnt really reccomend as much
that mainly depends on how many cubes you have left

[robust jasper]

I got a ur bullin just sitting er

[zenith heron]

luck is probably still in your side, if Lady Luck deems it

but it its what it is in Gacha, filled with UR, so the pity is like your safe basis if ya want to guarantee the UR, but if that is what you only have, its alright, just remember to spend and earn cubes wisely

like doing pulls on light once per day/reset only...

[robust jasper]

I only pulled z16 this event

Though I got ur's from every event since shimikaze

[zenith heron]

yeah, I guess you should stop using those cubes and only use the Tickets that accompany the event, Brunhilde is mid tbf

so does Blucher but she is Waifu Tier

[robust jasper]

Lol

[dreamy blade]

good source of kms tech at least

[robust jasper]

Lol

[obsidian ivy]

The event shop is really barren for a vet huh, can almost completely skip

[robust jasper]

Lol, just want blucher, the gun, and the Dr prints

[zenith heron]

pretty much, unless you want to collect that another copy of the CA AP gun and that is it

if you have enough kms tech tho

[viscid swift]

who would skip cogs and oil

[robust jasper]

LOL OOOIIIILLLLL

[obsidian ivy]

Bought them with the daily X5 runs, of course wouldn't skip them

[robust jasper]

Just drained the shops oil tank

[zenith heron]

DR prints is alright, if you don't have the ship in said season, or a small income on protocores

but none is more important than the oil and cogs like the person above me said it...

[dreamy blade]

sr cat boxes

[glossy granite]

What more amazing options are there from Research besides Friedrich or Anchorage? Or its all dependant on your fleet and dock

to prioritize

[dreamy blade]

all of pr4 except marco, plymouth from pr5

[stark quiver]

a lot of ships

[zenith heron]

minmaxing stats for cats in late game is nice but wild

[tender lotus]

What's the best ss lineup?

[stark quiver]

flaher,albacore,archerfish

[dreamy blade]

wolfpack or fishpack

[storm heron]

fishpack

[tender lotus]

Fishpack?

[zenith heron]

1st best: Flasher, Albacore, Archerfish (Fish Pack)
2nd best: U-37, U-81. U-96 (Wolf Pack)

[dreamy blade]

^fishpack

flasher was event limited so if you dont have her then dont bother with albacore/archer

[tender lotus]

It's okay i hv flasher so I'll keep with fishpack

Do ss need to be 125?

[stark quiver]

no

[sweet delta]

2nd best in terms of completely exclusive ships. If you allow the 2nd best to include subs in the first best, then the top 5 or something fleets are taken up by fishpack and solopack variants including flasher

[tender lotus]

Alright

[dreamy blade]

where does the ldv/homura fleet rank

[storm heron]

does this mean wolfpack is like 6+th?

rip wolfpack

[zenith heron]

which I guess why LDV, Homura, are used, even U-556 Meta in some cases

I have been coping on Minato Aqua once

[sweet delta]

leo and 556m are more or less sidegrades

[sweet delta]

when you count each of these as a fleet
flasher alba homura, flasher alba archer, flasher archer homura
oh! maybe wolfpack contests 4th place with solos after all

[slow fox]

smh suchimisinformation

[night marsh]

So if i lack of oil, clicking on the background count as accepting buy with gems? never happens b4

[plain saffron]

Nope

But they change the position between confirm and cancel
Only confirm spend oil

[night marsh]

happens twice to me

[plain saffron]

Never happen to me when i click outside

[night marsh]

Definitely not click accept

[storm heron]

I seriously just don't understand subs and probably won't be anytime soon, due to the fact that I don't have any subs at all other than a subpar wolfpack that when combined deal less than half of flashers' damage

[night marsh]

i remember once i click outside, and the other i click close

[storm heron]

honestly it might be just ur reflex

[hollow gust]

just copy CN

[storm heron]

what does CN have? the other sub combination that I know works is the one on the w15 sample fleet

[stark quiver]

bruh just run fishpack with bidders, a gun, hull, snorkel

[night marsh]

my reflex was clicking outside, and now it pays with gem

[storm heron]

think about it, all the fast comission clicking, all the 12-4 grind, the dock space retire

[plain saffron]

And all is click outside

Anyway i tried a lot, doesn't buy the oil

[night marsh]

my gems only 70, might try it tmr for 50 one
Better get compensate if its right

[night marsh]

did ur oil depleted?

[storm heron]

big doubt tbh

[loud cedar]

Its not worth dumping oil into the event, right? Should get most stuff with the daily bonuses?

[night marsh]

gems for dock expand only

[crystal flume]

we don't have hard stage for this event?

[soft raft]

SP format events do not have a hard mode

[storm heron]

just a hypothetical question, if I make a summary of the event like Sam did, will I get pinned?

[soft raft]

SP4 is the oil cap stage to farm

[crystal flume]

ah i didn't know that.. thank you

[soft raft]

well the wiki page for this event exists so

[storm heron]

I see, so only new event

[stark quiver]

i mean the majority of ppl asking here dont look at wiki so

[storm heron]

welp might as well be unable to since I don't usually have access to datamine

[dreamy blade]

#gameplay-help message

[plain saffron]

I'll test again tonight

Also better to record next time you try

[night marsh]

the question is, am i get compensated if its right? -50 gems after -100 seems pain

[storm heron]

how can I do the rally request?

[ivory pawn]

Go back in time 2+ years.

[storm heron]

well if you reallly wanna test it, alpha and lawyer can definitely do it for you since they have like 0 oil

testing time, for science

I myself have 9k oil so might be unable to test for quite a bit

[stark quiver]

what seems to be the problem today gentlemen

[storm heron]

it seems like if your oil is depleted mid run, your gems will be spent if you did not tap cancel

[stark quiver]

ok

ill go test it out

[night marsh]

its about my eyes fail me, or my hand didnt sync with brain

[stark quiver]

im more concerned abt how your oil ran out mid run

[stark quiver]

what event/campaign stage, and was it the 3x auto sortie

[night marsh]

event, sp4, manual

[stark quiver]

ill test when im almost out of oil

[ocean scroll]

hey guys, would you choose kronshtadt, ulrich von hutten or shimakaze for ur exchange

[stark quiver]

id assume your shinano is mlb, if she isnt, get dupes of her until mlb

id go for ulrich then bc she gives good tech

[forest palm]

I mean Shinano → Ulrich → NJ → Kron → Shims

[stark quiver]

oh shi, i put uch first
i meant to pick uvh out of those 3 options

[storm heron]

uh oh

[robust jasper]

Wat

[storm heron]

evan had left

[hollow gust]

hes still mutal lol, he hasnt

[stark quiver]

https://streamable.com/8ermz6?src=player-page-share
according to me, clicking everywhre but confirm doesnt buy oil

[storm heron]

yeah bro's having too fast of a reflex

suffering of success

wait hold on why is the cancel and confirm flipped

[night marsh]

mb this thing yea they change the position between confirm and cancel, might try later

[forest palm]

could've told you that
buy oil regularly

[glossy granite]

If i ever get to that 400 pool pity thing what would be the best option if you already got New jersey and shinano? Tho not MLB

[candid meteor]

shinano

[storm heron]

is that alpha's personalized setting or?

[stark quiver]

Is assume that
The reflex comes from confirm being other side

[glossy granite]

Really? wtf

[candid meteor]

what

[sweet delta]

Would you rather have 5 useless ships or 1 useful ship?

[stark quiver]

personalized settings dont exist in al

[forest palm]

you use Perm Pity to help MLB the Ships available in it

[zenith heron]

better to have a ship that is currently flexible compared to ships that got powercrept for some point of time

[glossy granite]

Nvm nothing

[hollow gust]

use your bulins on new gatcha URs, they are stronger then everything but nano in perma now

[forest palm]

Shinano aside, ya

[glossy granite]

Has shinano hold up this well?

[storm heron]

what well?

[hollow gust]

still the best CV in a heavy fleet

[forest palm]

still pretty good on Light/Med

[stark quiver]

bro got spanked for having an opinion

[zenith heron]

pretty much yes, especially within the IJN Comp, with the New Amagi CV or the old Hakuryuu, if not then she is still a Solid ship to even use....

the rest of the perma UR are just mid now

[storm heron]

to be fair shinano has been used much more than amagi

[hollow gust]

well amagi and shinano are best heavy CVs

[sweet delta]

to be fair Shinano has been in game much more longer than amagi

[stark quiver]

ranger best cv(l)
if u have god luck

[zenith heron]

the first UR of the game, and hasn't been out of use ever since

[glossy granite]

Yea cuz i got her when she came out

But i quit game mid 2021 😅 and now i returned in december

[forest palm]

back then when we use to use Shokaku

[glossy granite]

Tho back then i had no idea what i was doing

Do you need to build a specific fleet for Shinano to utilize her the most? or can you put her in any once shes MLB

[wise knoll]

just to be sure agir and harbin dont have fate sim yet right?

[forest palm]

at most you just need Shinano + Haku + August + Kaza, but really you can just do something like Shinano + Enty + August + Kaza

[zenith heron]

Decent in a Mob fleet

best preferred in a Boss Fleet, in composition with Amagi CV/Hakuryuu and a CV Slow/Freeze Debuff (Implacable, AVP, worse case scenario is Ark Royal Retrofit)

Currently best against Boss fights in Heavy Hull

[glossy granite]

I see

[elfin hollow]

HELP

how to get more tech points i want her

[stark quiver]

no, yes

[glossy granite]

Implacable should return

[elfin hollow]

[eager mulch]

obtain, max limit break, and lv120 kms ships

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[zenith heron]

should return after within or After March but subjective

there is an incoming UR event after all at end of February

[frank pulsar]

harbin does, agir doesnt

[elfin hollow]

how much for her

[wise knoll]

thank you

[glossy granite]

Hows harbin like cuz there are very few chinese ships

[elfin hollow]

ok

[storm heron]

wdym how much

[elfin hollow]

pulls

[frank pulsar]

one of our best dps cl

[stark quiver]

between 0 to infinite

[zenith heron]

how much?

its RNG but pity is 400 cubes as always per UR

[elfin hollow]

for march will there be another UR?

[zenith heron]

End of February is the said UR that will come
Implacable is unsure when, since they might do some changes with the schedule of release... 🔮

[storm heron]

I like speculating anyways end of february probably new UR, implac probably anytime between march to may

[elfin hollow]

only got 50 cubes as a new player

[storm heron]

you got 200+ per month if you're active

[hollow gust]

You can make lime 250+ cubes a month, just play the game daily

[elfin hollow]

ok

[zenith heron]

if I recall,
we did get Alsace before the Vanguard Rerun last year?
Also after Soyuz event, there were no UR Rerun? just after Alsace's?

[sweet delta]

and you can throw away 200+ per month if you can't control yourself

[storm heron]

yea I think that's a better point

[elfin hollow]

nah I can control myself

how many cubes can new players get

[sweet delta]

read the last 15 messages

[nimble knoll]

Is it worth getting the Gold Bulins With Medals Or Nah?

Wats gud to put on my Sandy, (I'm tryna lvl her up)

[stark quiver]

a toolkit

[ivory pawn]

Plus a rudder or naval camo.

[forest palm]

for any CA, CB, or CL this is the most basic General Aux Loadout you can choose

[nimble knoll]

Then ima take the Gold Aux on Portland, cuz I'm gonna do 1:2's on da event

[dreamy blade]

but why theres oil cap

[elfin hollow]

from story?

[elfin hollow]

how to get all of those

[nimble knoll]

Is it better to 1:1 w8 or use a full fleet?

[stark quiver]

full fleet cuz youre gonna die

[tawdry sluice]

If you're clearing new worlds and levels just use a full fleet

[dreamy blade]

theres no reason to 1:1 anything when you have as many ships that need to be raised as you do

1:1 also means less commander xp

[nimble knoll]

The more ships used, the more cmdr Xp?

[plain saffron]

More per run, slightly less per oil

Unless you're a neet or something, use full fleet

[hallow mountain]

Is this really the only stage you can farm for this event?

[stark quiver]

it has oil cap

[hallow mountain]

What does that mean

[weary gust]

The amount of oil you pay per fight is capped. Say your fleet costs on paper 81 oil. Under oil cap it would be, say, 37. Whether that orignal cost was 70, 50, or 38. If you go under the cap then it's that lower value.

[hallow mountain]

Ohhh

[weary gust]

In other words you get massively more exp/oil because you're not paying for what the ships would normally cost.

[hallow mountain]

So I can farm exp too

[weary gust]

Oil cap stages are better for farming period.

[hallow mountain]

Nice

[plain saffron]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[eager mulch]

/oilcap

[keen sable]

1:1

[keen sable]

Absolutely yes. Relatively no. But in any case why would you bother farming 8 when SP4 exists.

[eternal moth]

Get to chapter 9 and full fleet 9-1

[keen sable]

Are you referring to initial clear or farming?

Or maybe 5x farming

[final heart]

between portland - starter dd - helena and northampton II - fu shun - blucher, which is the better vanguard line up for a bossing fleet? (all retrofitted)

[eternal moth]

I think it would be the latter, but Blucher should be tanking

[keen sable]

Bluch fu helena?

[eternal moth]

Actually yeah, that would be best

[final heart]

so portland - starter dd - north for mobbing and blucher - fu shun - helena for bossing?

ty ty

[keen sable]

You asked for power. Doesn't mean it's balanced

You need to kill the mobs and the boss

[final heart]

yeah I'm just trying to make do with what I have rn

[elfin hollow]

priority for event shop?

[keen sable]

You don't need to get the gear skin boxes

[stark quiver]

Shop prio
-Build tickets
-Blucher
-Gun
-else

[elfin hollow]

Guys when doing comms for cubes do you take the longer one for higher chance or 1h or lower?

[eternal moth]

It's rare that you'll have more than 4 at a time

You just always take the cube comms

[rigid onyx]

This is purely conjecture but I think that cube comms have the same chance of giving cubes regardless of timer but the longer comms give more

[keen sable]

1h daily, 1h urgent, 1h junk?

[stark quiver]

i take whichever i see first

[elfin hollow]

how many total build tickets we get

[stark quiver]

idk

[eternal moth]

I just beat the boss of ESP with 4 naked ships... oops

[silk helm]

Who do I choose

[storm heron]

well, usually but idk now

[eternal moth]

NJ

[keen sable]

Nj

[silk helm]

Ty

[rigid onyx]

Considering you're in UR bulin debt nj is better

[sweet delta]

Uvh

[silk helm]

I have the cores I just don't buy till I need cuz dock space

[final heart]

ulrich (do not trust me, I'm biased for iron blood)

[rigid onyx]

How many bulins do you have access to

[hollow trout]

There still that opsci guide?

[sweet delta]

There are 3 better BBs than NJ already maxed plus fdg for other things, take UvH and 120 her if you want for rld tech

[elfin hollow]

new player but have that many ur

[silk helm]

U should see greygoose

[elfin hollow]

how do you get that many ur

[stark quiver]

playing the game

[elfin hollow]

if you're new...?

[keen sable]

Play the game well

[rigid onyx]

wait until you're not new

[thorn tartan]

how did i get stars for "defleat escort fleet" and "defeat all enemies" but not "defeat flagship"????

[stark quiver]

everyone says theyre new, dont trust me
except im actually new

[keen sable]

They're not new

[stark quiver]

did you defeat flagship

[elfin hollow]

do i try to mlb any of my ur ships? I have amagi cv fritz shimano

[eager mulch]

im new

[thorn tartan]

yes, i cleared SP3 twice, including one full escort clear.

[stark quiver]

when some peeps say theyre new, its not believable,
but sometimes it is

[rigid onyx]

General advice for URs is to focus on MLBing one at a time, and to only do you daily light pull aside from events and you should get enough cubes to get every UR

[hollow trout]

Assuming I go level everyone and equip them with the proper general gear this good enough to clear it still for opsci?

[final heart]

I'm prob the true new here
fritz is the only UR that gets to be deployed and Z52 is the only other UR I have getting benched

[stark quiver]

yes, though there can be adjustments

[elfin hollow]

so end game is just ur ships and ssr ship teams?

[stark quiver]

no lol

[eternal moth]

Pretty much

[stark quiver]

endgame, is whatever your end goal is

[elfin hollow]

like high stages

[eternal moth]

Though there are a few elites that are used in niche situations

[elfin hollow]

like

[stark quiver]

aurora

[hollow trout]

I see, I got some other ships as well, some working progress

[rigid onyx]

Basically yeah with notable exceptions, but the game lets you get every ship if you aren't stupid with cube usage

[stark quiver]

whyre you using ark royal when u have a mlb implac

[keen sable]

I use Chen Hai, Helena, and aurora

[elfin hollow]

it's going to be pain long time waiting for me to get all ur

[rigid onyx]

gold after retro isnt an elite anymore

[stark quiver]

but your helana isnt purp

[stark quiver]

welp, everyone goes thru the same
and theres new URs every year

[hollow trout]

I have not updated my opsci fleet in a long time implac was being leveled when I was still clearing it

[elfin hollow]

how long?

[eternal moth]

Most people with that many URs have been playing for years, so yes

[keen sable]

it took me until December to get all current ones

[elfin hollow]

how long you played

[eternal moth]

He's been on the server since 2017

[keen sable]

Since GA basically.

[stark quiver]

unique is like akeath, a literal dinosaur

[elfin hollow]

how long will it take me? 2 years? 5 years?

[keen sable]

💳 should be about 2

[elfin hollow]

how much credit card?

[ivory pawn]

In theory, it's doable in ~2 years. May take a little longer.

No need to spend, but do need to be very thrifty with cubes.

[elfin hollow]

ok

[eternal moth]

Yeah, about 2 years since that's how long it takes for ships to rerun

[elfin hollow]

so right now I have 50 cubes I'm screwed unless luck is on side for next ur and potentially rerun

but I am on chapter 4

[final heart]

chapter 4...?

[stark quiver]

just progress like normal, dont get too caught up with collecting all the URs

[elfin hollow]

yeah

[sharp socket]

im only missing like 5 URs and ill be "caught up" in a year when laff2 reruns

[eternal moth]

You should be able to beat chapter 4 within just a couple days of starting. I mean, I beat chapter 12 within a month and a half

[hollow trout]

lots of gambling, personally I'm saving for Suzu UR alter

[elfin hollow]

i am too lazy don't know how far my team can progress

[eternal moth]

Just try it

[final heart]

damn and I thought I was progressing very slow compared to others

[sharp socket]

just send it and ask for help when you cant do it

[final heart]

still at 10-3

[elfin hollow]

i

[keen sable]

can't even get all com plan cubes

[stark quiver]

just push, lower stages can be beaten with just levels

[elfin hollow]

so how many times to grind the event stage per hour

[eternal moth]

A team of Penny/Uni/Sara/Portland/Z23/Helena took me to chapter 10

[stark quiver]

bro used a normal team as a newb

i used
hood,illus,centuar,eugen,belfast,montpelier from ch2 thru 12 as a newb

[eternal moth]

On my alt I did, yeah

[elfin hollow]

my team is enter/portland retro/helena retro/laffey/perseus/qe

[sharp socket]

my starter team was the same except laffey

[elfin hollow]

idk how far i can get i'm too lazy cuz i have to grind

[stark quiver]

what was ur og fleet

[stark quiver]

dont expect results without effort

[hollow trout]

I think I ran like enty,warspite,essex, portland, helena, and montipler

[sharp socket]

then i made some questionable decisions for my boss fleet such as montpelier, takao and essex

[hollow trout]

Montpelier gaming, also isnt essex good for boss?

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure it was close to the same, except I started with Laffey. I know I used Warspite for a long time, and I think I farmed up the bunny twins. I was using the ECTL guide at the time.

[sharp socket]

the meme queen wasnt very good

[elfin hollow]

does doing story give cubes

[obsidian ivy]

Get final UVH dupe for full uncap, or get new Kron with UR pity ? Only bulin debt left is Fritz and new UR and vanguard when archived

[sharp socket]

actually none of them were good in w14, especially not takao even 125 + aug

[final heart]

yes, clearing each stage gives 1

[eternal moth]

Actually, thinking about it, that was when 2 fleets were common, so I used Phoenix for a long time in mob, and Portland in boss.

[final heart]

the only pain is to sortie again and again for like 3-4 times

[eternal moth]

UvH

[hollow trout]

damn my goat washed

[rose cosmos]

Is the rainbow dd gun better to prioritize than wyvern?

[storm heron]

is SP3 low oil farming a good thing to recommend in general?

[rose cosmos]

I feel like every dd uses it

[storm heron]

so do people recommend farming SP3 openly?

[rose cosmos]

Why not sp4

[storm heron]

for the graf zep

[keen sable]

real pain is farming anything like 100k event points or fox mines with no auto search

[stark quiver]

does low costing sp3 give more pts per oil than full fleeting sp4

[elfin hollow]

max stage for the event

and what stage to stop and start farming

[storm heron]

alright I guess

[keen sable]

Someone said 1:2 (I assume at least that's what 5 oil means) works

[storm heron]

Sam's pin from two year ago said that graf zep drops at SP3 so like I was wondering should people recommend SP3 openly

[stark quiver]

so low cost sp3 is better

[rose cosmos]

Repeat exchange ur dupes wise, assuming shinano and nj were already at max limit and you had all the perma ur units, what are the best one to choose to limit break now? Ulrich?

[sharp socket]

and why would you farm +2 CV HP and CV AA at 120

[ivory pawn]

I'm not sure I'd recommend it generally. She's mostly just for collection purposes, and she can be obtained through some event pools. And her tech sucks, would only be useful for KMS tech points.

[storm heron]

idk Sam mentions it

[ivory pawn]

Yeah, 2 years ago.

[keen sable]

In a vacuum. It's pretty dubious holistically.

[storm heron]

was graf good?

[sharp socket]

they probably had worse stuff 2 years ago

[ivory pawn]

According to the NY Invitation pin that's still up, she's not terrible even now. But not great either.

[plain saffron]

Probably only for collection or kms tech point really

[elfin hollow]

what stage to grind for in event

[keen sable]

No one on gph likes gz anyway. The amount of hate for maining gz to rush fdg is incredible. It's like they all would rather use ugly sisters.

[keen sable]

Sp4

[elfin hollow]

how many stages to grind per hour on event

[keen sable]

What kind of metric is that

[elfin hollow]

idk how much to grind

[sharp socket]

grind as much as you want

[elfin hollow]

cuz of morale

[weary gust]

Until you have all the event currency/drops you want.

[ivory pawn]

You can get most of the important stuff by just running each stage once a day. Maybe hit up SP4 a bit more so you can grab some more useful stuff, since you're fairly new.

[keen sable]

55k is good

[sharp socket]

then touch grass after morale is red

[elfin hollow]

what about just SP4 why do 1 SP1 1 SP2 1 SP3 1 SP4?

[sharp socket]

5x reward once per day

[elfin hollow]

2 SP4?

[ivory pawn]

And 1 ESP for a once a day 800 reward, if you're able to clear it.

[elfin hollow]

what is ESP

[ivory pawn]

Once you finish SP4, tap the right arrow. You might not be able to clear it, or it might cost too much oil to be worth the effort, so I wouldn't stress it too much.

[stark quiver]

idt ch4 mfs can do ESP

[elfin hollow]

what lvl should my team should be for SP4?

[keen sable]

That's easy. You can only sortie about 5 times per hour with a 12 ship dorm

[stark quiver]

115+

[elfin hollow]

cuz it's hard to do it with my team

[whole crypt]

if you can do ESP at all it'll basically always be worth doing

[sharp socket]

well it requires lv100 min

[elfin hollow]

umm I'm doing it with lvl 80 team...

[keen sable]

Like 91ish for one fleeters

[elfin hollow]

idk what teams atp for 2 fleet

[eternal moth]

Wait, you have level 100 ships and you're worried about CHAPTER 4?!?

[storm heron]

Operation Convergence Rerun

Modified from samheart564

Links

• Wiki Page: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Convergence
• Ship Evaluations: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Operation_Convergence

Ships

• SR BC Brünhilde (2%)
• SR CA Blücher (0.5% - also available as map drop SP4 & shop exchange)
• Elite DD Z16 (2.5%)

Shop Priority

1. Blücher (1 copy if you didn't get her from build/drop)
2. Twin 203mm SKC (Improved)
3. Build Tickets (can buy earlier if needed)
4. Cognitive Arrays / Chips
5. DR5 prints
6. Oil/Coins
7. Augment Cores
8. SR Cat boxes/purple plates/etc. (depends on your need)
9. Augment enhance stones and rest of the shop.
Note: If you're a new player, consider buying T4 tech boxes before everything else, it helps speed up your game progress by acquiring new equipment early.

FAQ

Best stage to farm?

Do the daily ESP stage, then spam SP4 repeatedly. Otherwise spam highest stage you can do. If you need a ship drop, farm the following stages:
SP4 - Blücher can drop.

SP3 - Graf Zeppelin can drop. Not recommended to farm if you can do SP4. Only farm if you really need Iron Blood faction tech points.

Oil Cap?

Oil Cap is on SP4 , and is 20 mob, 30 boss, 15 sub. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than majority of permanent options at their hull type.
  There is a high chance of an Ultra Rare event coming up this February, so plan accordingly

CA gun good?

Yes, it is the second best gold CA gun. It is good as an AP CA gun and on Ammo Changers.

Where to find Build Tickets?

Daily Login, Daily Missions, Event Shop, Point Milestone. There are 29 acquirable build tickets. Tickets expire at the end of the event; they cannot carry over to future events.

Check the other pins for Lantern Trivia's Answers!

[keen sable]

The gun isn't new

And that grammar

[stark quiver]

ill take its, its good enough

[eternal moth]

This should be changed to "Yes, it is the second best gold CA gun"

[storm heron]

I think for the grammar I have like 3 sentences

[storm heron]

I'm debating on that actually, would ease of communication be better than accuracy?

[south sequoia]

Tell me when its finalized so ill pin

[soft raft]

I mean, "It is one of the second best" is pretty long winded

[sweet delta]

We're back to sorting ships by hull types?

[eternal moth]

Either "one of the best gold CA guns" or what I said, your choice

[storm heron]

[keen sable]

What's the best gold then...

[storm heron]

I was following the violet tempest for this

[stark quiver]

isnt it the twin barrel thingy
or am i tripping

[sweet delta]

This is the twin barrel thing

[stark quiver]

the other twin barrel thingy

[keen sable]

Blucher IS the twin barrel thingy

[viscid swift]

Sigh, which one

[stark quiver]

first row, last collumn

[viscid swift]

Oh Cheshire gun, no comment

[stark quiver]

or am i tripping balls

[sweet delta]

Tripping

That's different ammo type

[eternal moth]

Best is so arbitrary. It's way down the list for light, 2nd best for medium, and 7th for heavy, so IDK

Actually, 5th for heavy, I missed a coupld of CBs

[storm heron]

Since technicality wise it's too difficult and I don't have enough characters, I did it like that

I wonder if Sam's paying an extra $9...

[eternal moth]

It's also best raw DPS

At least according to wiki

[storm heron]

the worst part is probably I can only infer the build ticket count from the V irtual tower rerun

[vale spindle]

Oh i forgot I'll post it one second

[storm heron]

I'm too scared of spreading misinformation if I got pinned

[sweet delta]

Get it pinned quick now

[storm heron]

pin please <@&472236072743600148>

[little venture]

hm?

[stark quiver]

we arent gonna louis 16 you, youll be fine dawg

[storm heron]

I'm sorry Sam pls don't korosu me

[viscid swift]

or will we

[storm heron]

with the absence of wiki page too 💀

[rose cosmos]

Is that yellow gun good

[vale spindle]

Its fine
Add that your should check other pin for trivia question answers

[eager mulch]

take his amagi-chan as punishment

[elfin hollow]

I can't beat SP4 help me

[vale spindle]

I normally remember to do it when there is a datamine but there wasn't anything to datamine so yea

[hollow gust]

my ranger cassin downes was enough of a mob fleet

[thorn tartan]

there is no equipment to farm for this event right?

[forest palm]

ya the event map gear is garbage

[thorn tartan]

so I get another week to chill more or less. I'm cool with that.

[elfin hollow]

^ help