gameplay-help

[molten zinc]

I use them to buy WA ship that have no oil cap

[whole crypt]

once in a while I remember and I do an aotn but most of the time I forget

[barren tapir]

dont remind me that i have like idk 30? ships to collect from merit eventually

[cobalt gate]

houshou meta is such a bad ship

[barren tapir]

well no shit, she's a purple meta LOL

[left cedar]

imagine think a purple META is gud ship

[whole crypt]

how else are you going to get another CV RLD

[cobalt gate]

i mean arizona

[barren tapir]

its too bad about bolzano tho, she's mega cute

[molten zinc]

[left cedar]

the closest to be a thing its Molzano, Mamashiro and Musou but still quite far from be gud ...

[molten zinc]

lowkey best boss mechanic btw

[barren tapir]

wait what

[molten zinc]

gotta love the rng

[barren tapir]

bolzano a thing?

oh shit she has portland ehp she's usable thankj fuck

[left cedar]

Port tankiness already give her something to rely a bit, in a ultra copius a special armor break ... and that is it

[whole crypt]

which constellation is it this month

[stark quiver]

aquarius

[barren tapir]

hey ill take anything

[whole crypt]

oh newcastle and her vase thing

[left cedar]

i'm still w8 for decent rewards for at least lose more than 1s of my life doing that thing

[barren tapir]

newcastle has shown me i have 0 chance against yukikaze

cos newcastle is basically yukikaze lite in terms of difficulty and style

[molten zinc]

[stark quiver]

instead of one jug u have 3 balls

[whole crypt]

wasn't Yukikaze just Soyuz check

[molten zinc]

isn't nanoda only have 10k hp summon or something?

[stark quiver]

i mean maybe u can pull some bz magic, idk if blk hole brings the balls in tho

[barren tapir]

well guess who i dont have

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething time Soyuz to 20s and let her barrage kill balls

if no soyuz I think the tactic was 20s airstrikes

[barren tapir]

idk if even manual will save me

[barren tapir]

only 10k yea but 3 of them somewhat spread out and if left alive for over 1.5s heal her for 100k/s

[stark quiver]

if u can get timing, then dps is trivial

[barren tapir]

she also has nearly 5m hp, newcastle only has 3m

and i beat newcastle with 9s left

[stark quiver]

also you have 2 months to prepare, who knows, maybe feb ur might be something good

[barren tapir]

first try manual tbf but like christ

[whole crypt]

I kind of stopped giving a shit about the later CMs because they all became shitbags of HP that you can't bulin MVP

[molten zinc]

[late flame]

only cm i cared was aries totally not since its my birthday month

[stark quiver]

sounds like someone with a maxed account

[barren tapir]

idk if i can get my cvs to 20s lol my tech is low and i dont have any remotely hopeful cv cat

[whole crypt]

past a certain point in boss HP you can't bulin MVP

[outer robin]

How do these fleet comps fair in w15

[whole crypt]

which as it turns out was most of the roster after around libra

[stark quiver]

hell naw

[barren tapir]

at least march is easy so i have time to cook for april technically 3 months left to figure out a solution for me

[stark quiver]

percy = bricked

[molten zinc]

recipes for sunk after 2 battle

[outer robin]

Ooookay thrn suggestions

[stark quiver]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[late flame]

do /w15 nvm i slow

[whole crypt]

replace Perseus with a good secondary healer
replace NJ with a good mob BB
don't put Unzen as tank
no idea if you screwed up gear as well

[hollow gust]

thats a very easy fleet, only good for stalling

[barren tapir]

i mean honestly its not too bad, just ditch percy and maybe restructure your vgs a bit idk

[molten zinc]

yeah that's why it's anoying, because it take so much time to kill them

[barren tapir]

i see sandy shimanto anchorage and laff2 those are all great.

[late flame]

yeah i avoid stall fleets so that i can get it over with

[whole crypt]

boss fleet isn't much issue
mob fleet vanguard order is bad
again no idea if gear is cooked

[barren tapir]

make thread show gear

also curious besides musashi and fdg what are good mobbing bbs

[stark quiver]

Soyuz

And honestly any ur bb who’s not warspite

[whole crypt]

Alsace

UvH has her problems

Vanguard also not too hot for mob

[molten zinc]

he has Unzen so I assume he also have Musashi when she rerun

[mild sail]

I can beat that easily

[whole crypt]

what armour is the vase

[storm heron]

the jug

[whole crypt]

for whatever reason my game thinks I haven't cleared this CM last year

[barren tapir]

light

also i learned my account is cooked because somehow fu shun z52 plymouth wasnt enough vg dps to consistently keep the jug from healing on auto

[left cedar]

z52 hits impressive hard ... at least for me she do around 180k in Maihou constantly

idk how she dont do enough for ya, also, try anothers VGs with high dmg, like Hidy prob ?

[barren tapir]

(manual ofc) seems she does less than fu shun and ply overall, also was consistently so when i tried a bunch of auto configs on normal and easy for fun i kept vg targeting jug/newcastle as much as possible so i doubt manual/auto affects it too significantly since none of them are facetorpers

[whole crypt]

hm this time last year it was a Kearsarge/Yorktown II thing wasn't it

throwing Soyuz/Nakhimov/Rumey at it now looks like it's working

[barren tapir]

well on auto i think it was not enough dmg hitting right when it spawned so it got a tick of healing off. i just straight up quit auto once i saw newcastle go from 95% to 100% in less than a second tho.

im missing some dmg cos ply 120 fushun 123 z52 122 iirc but not a significant amount i dont think

[molten zinc]

manual for a whole 10 minutes sound pain af

[little tree]

I'm at 3 flapjacks and 2 tiger cats how many more flapjacks should I get

[whole crypt]

oh right why did I remove Plymouth, Soyuz is there

[barren tapir]

nah it was very low effort bc i didnt need to dodge anything, it was merely keeping vg still and focused on jug and then it went fine

[whole crypt]

none for now

[barren tapir]

ch15 was significantly more of a workout

tho tbh i really dunno why my vg had issues on auto. maybe low tech and not +13 makes that big a diff, i dunno

[late flame]

and ai pathing

[little tree]

Should I craft the gold dd gun for z52 instead then

[outer robin]

Better to use kms or American subs in 15

[barren tapir]

oh suchis example 'mid end' fleet had a +13 plygun that might be why

as well as dps aux on all vanguards, which i didnt do

[whole crypt]

depends on what your depot is like now and what you're trying to tackle
you don't need to make gear just because you have spare materials

[barren tapir]

oh also fp aa gun...yeah im too poor

[whole crypt]

didn't even tap on subs

[left cedar]

134 isnt gona make much a diff

[little tree]

I'm on 14-3 and after that is ch15 so what ever gear gets me there tbh

[left cedar]

i'm doing with BBs, cuz FdG supremacy is a thing for me obviously

[whole crypt]

would probably have been faster if I left Plymouth in and bothered to tweak CV RLD, it's 0 now for showdown

[barren tapir]

let me renhex my vg real quick but everything adds up especially when suchi used 'half tech' and i have '1/10th tech'

[outer robin]

Is this any better or worse then I previously posted

[whole crypt]

you basically just need as many "good fighters" as it takes to fill up your main fleets, and we have no idea what you're short of

[whole crypt]

do you have any other UR BBs

[left cedar]

i have pretty much 0 DD Tech
and she still do alot

[outer robin]

Which ones you want

[whole crypt]

also Zuihou or Aquila is probably preferable for the secondary healer

[molten zinc]

Musashi would be the best for your mob fleet

[whole crypt]

Musashi best, next probably Alsace or Soyuz

[outer robin]

I’ve got practically every ship ever released

So my choices are very wide

[whole crypt]

you still haven't moved Unzen out of tank

[outer robin]

Who would be better then

[whole crypt]

either of those 2 have better eHP than Unzen so whatever

[barren tapir]

u can compare the vg diff, then add tech which would affect dds greatly for example

[little tree]

I think second wyvern is my best call then

[whole crypt]

definitely

[barren tapir]

fp aa gun is like 10% dps gain on a 0 tech z52 also, something like that

[whole crypt]

that should have taken priority over flapjacks anyway unless you were short of designs

[barren tapir]

wait nvm more like 5%

[molten zinc]

can you make this?

I'm too lazy adding gear

[barren tapir]

but the diff between suchi's mid end vg and mine is still pretty big

[outer robin]

Yes

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething Zuihou might be better for healing DDs

but yes Aquila will work

[molten zinc]

yeah Zuihou would be better here unless you dont have her built

[outer robin]

Musashi is the mob fleet I’m assuming

[left cedar]

my DD Tech
its more than i though ... ironical

[barren tapir]

ngl i have more than i thought too LOL. but still fairly small

[outer robin]

Kay made the comp just need to raise a few girls up

[left cedar]

its ur fac tech low ? or they are maxed ?

[wind hazel]

[left cedar]

ok, that make quite a diff

[wind hazel]

lv1 SE is really unexpected

[barren tapir]

ive neglected ijn since it has not yet been a research blocker. it is my next goal tho now cos shimanto wife but im in no rush

[molten zinc]

something something if you use Zuihou just give her the same loadout as Unicorn or give her a beacon to off sync idk

[left cedar]

not everyone are in love with IJN, i'm being quite a hate of it cuz IJN gets a guanratee UR per year
and not everyone are fan of kemonomine

[whole crypt]

I'd still put an ASW plane on Unicorn to be safe

[barren tapir]

i like ijn its just a weird coincidence that ive not had any time to focus on it and havent even really mlbed the easy ships like yama/fusou yet

first came anchorage then ruppy then plymouth

[left cedar]

Fusous have RLD tech, so ... but in other hand they have low amount of tech cuz how old they are and rarity

and yes, if they are old they contribute less, if u wanna a proof, just look at Sey or Lutz

[barren tapir]

my ijn is in shambles atm tbh

[molten zinc]

[left cedar]

more surprising than in shameless are non mlb Fuso, Yama, ise and Hyuuga ... u get them almost everywhere

[barren tapir]

i think ive scrapped some yamafusou drops since i needed dock and didnt have the books to 70 them then
for ise/hyuuga i havent received enough dupes from building yet

[stark quiver]

how long does it take to get a ur ship from 105 to 25 in 12-1

[left cedar]

i did with BBs, in auto, 6M ...

[wind hazel]

fdg mvp

[molten zinc]

Plymouth buffing her so yes

[left cedar]

top of my head ? 50 (x3) runs

[barren tapir]

yeah just like how my ruppy mvped ply op

[left cedar]

almost everyone buffing FdG, exception is Hindy

[whole crypt]

flag buff aside FdG also has strong shelling that scales Mk7 well on hitting bosses

[stark quiver]

fuck my oil
how many purp xp packs does it take to get frm 105-125

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i also lack mk7

[left cedar]

gud thing u can craft them

[molten zinc]

or you know....just use MK6

[whole crypt]

BisZwei black hole + rockets maybe

[barren tapir]

yes i used a +11 mk6

[left cedar]

imo, waste of golden

[barren tapir]

hey, i cleared

also i did that +11 ages ago for elbing

[molten zinc]

[left cedar]

make it even worse, since u are in lack of resource and waste it on a non excential thing

[barren tapir]

im doing just fine

[left cedar]

but, ur game, ur rules

[stark quiver]

are exp packs in al wiki

[left cedar]

just my own vision and concepts

[whole crypt]

not in their own entry

[barren tapir]

i dont think 35 plates makes or breaks the game in the long run

[stark quiver]

like the xp they gib

[barren tapir]

im a c1 farmer so i already make slightly more plates/month than the avg player, ill recoup it eventually

[whole crypt]

T1 is 3k

[stark quiver]

t2 20k?

[whole crypt]

15

[stark quiver]

sad

[left cedar]

well, i have to work, see y later guys

[stark quiver]

bye

[wind hazel]

TIL you can only store 500 of T2

[stark quiver]

so, lvl 70 cmd pack, gives 3m xp of purps

[barren tapir]

huge

[whole crypt]

so I can save for another year or two

[cobalt gate]

i've been constantly hitting limit for t1

need more chips

[pale wing]

Guys, which one i should get?

[storm heron]

gn gph

[storm heron]

tirpitz is the best for Iron Blood pathing to unlock Friederich

[pale wing]

.....uhh

[wind hazel]

either hood or tirpitz, or other for faction tech

[jaunty vault]

gn doggy

[stark quiver]

If I wanted to stock on purple xp books
What are all my ways of getting it rn

[cobalt gate]

guild shop and medal shop should be cheapest

then from gold store and then commision

[wind hazel]

sir, i dont think they come from there

[barren tapir]

i think they thought alpha meant t2 skillbooks

[cobalt gate]

oh my bad, thought skill book

[wind hazel]

im only seeing it from cruise pass and lv70 pack right now. maybe im blind

[cobalt gate]

i have like no use for them, still have to grind affinity

[stark quiver]

So 20 bucks for like 250 books damn

[whole crypt]

besides level pack T2 XP is basically exclusively paid cruise mission

they handed out a couple during senran kagura collab in the scroll missions or some shit but that was about it

[cobalt gate]

i just realized even gun dd have low fp guess thats important for dd fleet tech

[stark quiver]

Ah nice just enough to 125 yk2

[tender girder]

should i get eldrige now, or wait until her retrofit item is release again first?

like, is she any good without retrofit?

[wind hazel]

no she's terrible without retro

just buy her in the future

you can probably wait until around june or july before -1 dockspace

[stark quiver]

If I buy cruise pass, do I get all the rewards at once

[carmine heath]

nope

they unlock as you unlock all the levels

[wind hazel]

you get 1500, plus whatever point you have now, and that's what you can get right now

[stark quiver]

Dang

[wind hazel]

💀 bro really p2w just for exp books

just grind out the last few levels

[carmine heath]

15 dollars for a repulse skin

[plain saffron]

Did you already buy new player packs

That have a lot of exp books too

[stark quiver]

Lemme see

[boreal wagon]

since when is fair winds 15 dollars (its 10)

[carmine heath]

I live in a country with monopoly currency

[plain saffron]

Uhm acksually it's 9.99

[stark quiver]

Oh the gem ones?

[plain saffron]

Didn't know in your country 10 usd = 15 usd

Lvl70 packs iirc the name

[stark quiver]

I was gonna get that and cruise pass

[boreal wagon]

there is the level 70 booster pack and also the "Lv. x" packs where x goes from 20? to 80

[carmine heath]

on a related whaling question does buying anything other than strictly gems get rid of the 2x gems thing

[stark quiver]

Those give blues tho
And a costs hella gems

[boreal wagon]

no, only buying the packs themselves removes the bonus 2x

[stark quiver]

No
It only applies to the gem packs itself

[boreal wagon]

and the bonus 2x is per pack, aka if you buy one it doesnt get rid of 2x on all of them

[carmine heath]

[plain saffron]

Ouh lvl x pack gives exp packs

[boreal wagon]

i believe so

idt they give purple packs tho

but they should give packs ever since they replaced them with new gift packs

[plain saffron]

Ouh wow since when lucky bag detail shows actual skins instead of long no line break hard to read texts

[stark quiver]

Round 8k gems for 650 blue books

[boreal wagon]

its been a while since it does that but idr when the first lucky bag was

[stark quiver]

Yea that was the plan

[steel lava]

Is she any good?

[wind hazel]

nothing special

[carmine heath]

do the fleet launch ceremony commissions drop anyone good

[wind hazel]

the what now

[shell willow]

no

[plain saffron]

launch day SR and extremely low rate

[patent raft]

does lucky E enterprise skill effect with other aircraft carrier ship girl or it's just her only effect the skill?

[wind hazel]

just her own damage, she would be helena otherwise

[patent raft]

Oh ok

When Musashi rerun gotta start in next few months?

does she good?

[wind hazel]

probably end of this year

maybe a bit earlier since archive

[patent raft]

Ok then

[jaunty blaze]

How to research this? I researched everything else

[carmine heath]

Any dds i should get here or just tech?

[wind hazel]

kazagumo

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#tabber-tabpanel-August_von_Parseval-3

[dreamy blade]

brother you need to be doing your researches 💀 having everything else but that is crazy

[jaunty blaze]

ok thank:_

[plain saffron]

wait wrong channel

[mild sail]

💀

[woven star]

question about sub torps: G7e Acoustic Homing or Mark 20S "Bidder"? if Mark 20s then why? G7e lower rld and higher dps

[whole crypt]

every ship has the same requirement to do research projects you just do researches?

[mild sail]

I think he might've rarely do research 💀

[whole crypt]

well time to do more, PR ships not going anywhere if you don't

[whole crypt]

generally bidder is the braindead option

[wary skiff]

do the shinano butterflies really do anything it feels like theyre just good as anti bomb boat watch

[whole crypt]

the problem is your submarines are only going to be on screen for a limited amount of time, the interval which makes the faster reload not relevant because they don't stay long enough to fire another round

[whole crypt]

very low damage, mostly eye candy and yes catches suicide boats if the timing is right

[woven star]

@whole cryptis any calculation in game how long subs stay in the map? for ex. one of my sub have 292 oxy... how it's long?

[whole crypt]

10 oxy per second

[boreal wagon]

and roughly 4.5s of surface time (for most subs)

[woven star]

ok, thx

[carmine heath]

thats what they said at the hospital too!

[whole crypt]

#off-topic

[silk sphinx]

for the siren loggers (star missions), does destroying them count as using them?

[nimble knoll]

Do some of the Vanguards have crossfleet? Or is it only main ships?

[silk sphinx]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[jaunty vault]

all gacha URs have crossfleet

[molten zinc]

yes

[silk sphinx]

best one is guam in terms of usefulness

[jaunty vault]

this hasn't been updated in a while

[silk sphinx]

yeah no fritz

[molten zinc]

no Fritz and Z52

[nimble knoll]

I see, thanks

[silk sphinx]

z52 has crossfleet?

[molten zinc]

yes

[silk sphinx]

oh wow

[molten zinc]

the barrage look like her AoA barrage

[silk sphinx]

i guess non gacha URs also have crossfleet now

[jaunty vault]

there's no amagi in there either

[tropic tusk]

W15 is best to have ships 125 right?

[silk sphinx]

the enemy levels are above 125 so uhm

the more levels the better as always

[tropic tusk]

Ok 3q

[silk sphinx]

you chinese/jp?

[tropic tusk]

I'm just lazy to type 3 letters

[fading jungle]

WHen it comes to building a Vanguard, is it better to have a Heavy Cruiser and 2 DDs or a Heavy Cruiser, DD, Cruiser of some make?

[clever lance]

Can you use loadout or preset to quickly take gear back onto a ship?

While it is equipped on another ship?

[whole crypt]

depends, but ship role is not exclusively tied to hull class

[fading jungle]

I have seen people mention that its good to have a Tank in the first slot, so i figured either Heavy/Large Cruiser there, but for the other two slots i have seen people run the Quad D and a DD/(CA/CL). was wondering which is the better all round

the set up i have been running is Guam, Laffey II, Anchorage

[whole crypt]

all large cruisers are tanks but not all heavy cruisers are tanks, we also have some DDs and CLs that are well capable of tanking

it will depend on the specific ship, but all 3 you have there can tank

[fading jungle]

Huh, i never would have guessed. Tanking with thier Evasion as DDs?

[fading jungle]

they seem to get killed pretty quickly is why i am wondering if i was doing something wrong

[whole crypt]

some are high evasion, Laffey II specifically has a damage cap skill

[whole crypt]

bad gear, low levels, low LB, depends

[fading jungle]

LB?

[whole crypt]

limit break

[late flame]

limit break, i.e. not max stars

[fading jungle]

i think they are all above 120, checking now

[whole crypt]

what content are you facing, if they're 120+ then likely gear issue

[fading jungle]

i just got passed 11-4

Guam is 122, Laffey II is 124, ANC is 125

[whole crypt]

you're overleveled at that point so most likely gear, start a thread with screenshots

[fading jungle]

Gear on my Vanguards

[coral elk]

What are the most important/best vanguard ships that support backline or increase the damage dealt? Or maybe some other special interactions

[fickle fern]

Only one I know confidently is helena. Very good damage buff.

Make sure to retrofit

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[fading jungle]

Unrelated to my other thread, why is Enterprise usually seen as the best US CV?

[daring light]

when will(estimation) jintsuu meta added to dossier list?

[hushed delta]

in 40 days I think, as soon as taihou meta ends

[daring light]

ahh, okkie tyy

[granite rain]

Any Idea when we might get a Bismarck Zwei rerun?

[runic bluff]

how do rld affects vanguards performance?

[hushed delta]

may or june of this year

[granite rain]

Thank you! How about Guam/LF2? Autumn?

[hushed delta]

no.. december 2025 or Jan '26

[tulip zenith]

Who should I lb next (I’m boutta get another bulin and shinano)

[frank pulsar]

not as impactful as it is on backline, but it is still a dmg increasing stat
stacking fp/trp/hit is much more efficient though unless you need specific timings

[hushed delta]

I'd max Z52 and get Shimakaze through ur exchange

[frank pulsar]

wait for nano and start limit breaking her

[hushed delta]

or NJ as you already oathed and have 2 copies of her

[frank pulsar]

shimakaze is not worth it anymore, nj is powercrept

[tulip zenith]

Also is haku good at dev 30 or do I need fs

[frank pulsar]

dev30 is good, but get fs5 anyway

[tulip zenith]

Ya

[hushed delta]

Shima is his best option against heavy

temp. Unzen

[frank pulsar]

backline supports are better in that case
even ibuki is situationally better

[whole crypt]

very cost efficient because not rainbow and only has 1 skill to level
can keep up with powercreep just by getting better gear because of direct damage scaling

[late flame]

100% Lucky E when

[white agate]

is z52 cross fleet only based on her skill level so if i use her at 4 star it's the same as at 6 stars or is there a difference?

[fading jungle]

I have personally always had better luck with Essex

[granite rain]

I believe in the Enty retro dream

[whole crypt]

depends on your use context - Enterprise is definitely better for boss damage

[granite rain]

My queen will rise again

[whole crypt]

but Essex will give you better overall support in campaign

[fading jungle]

I usually run Essex and Shinano in my main fleet, but now that i have more of the EU CVs up, Shinano has been moved to Fleet 2 with Amagi (CV).
Was looking into the other Essex-Class ships, and they all seem to be strong Support ships, aswell as Barrage Machines.

Swapping Shinano with Ticonderoga, until i can get Bunker Hill, then gonna run 3 Essex Sisters

[whole crypt]

it applies somewhat for campaign bossing but more importantly for special boss fights like showdowns and OS bosses like abyssals and arbiters

Enterprise's skill just straight doubles her airstrike damage which is very good on the large HP bars on bosses, but overkill for everything else

in campaign it doesn't really kick in outside of damaging the boss itself

[fading jungle]

so mainly use here in the Meta mission things?

[whole crypt]

she's still viable for boss damage in campaign

[granite rain]

She's good as a damage CV for general bossing purposes. Boss fleets in campaign also count

[whole crypt]

that's how she was used mainly before OS was added

[granite rain]

Essex is mediocre overall, but can buff Enty in the same fleet, so there's that

[fading jungle]

I dont have a dedicated Boss Fleet, up until this last month my two fleets were usually equal and i would use whoever had more health left.

[fading jungle]

at what point in the Campaign should i focus more on OS?

[granite rain]

What campaign stage are you at?

[fading jungle]

Just cleared 11-4

[whole crypt]

you should basically be doing both at this point

[granite rain]

Operation siren doesn't cost oil, you don't need to exclude one for the other

[whole crypt]

OS is just a lot of repeated grind

[fading jungle]

I usually only get an hour or so to play the game, which is why i can usually only focus on one or the other

[fading jungle]

time is my main hinderance there

[whole crypt]

in that case I recommend easing yourself into it after you settle down with ch12 XP grinding

[granite rain]

Then I recommend alternating days. One day save oil and just do your 3 hard stages and Operation siren, next day spend your oil on farming stages plus obviously the hards

[whole crypt]

if you can't grind it very consistently you're not going to get a lot out of it, so I'd say get yourself ready for it first

[fading jungle]

Face desk i forgot hard mode exists.

[whole crypt]

a lot of newer players go into it when it gets first unlocked and are very underprepared/underleveled for it

[granite rain]

lol you need to start doing those now for core data and retrofits. super important

[whole crypt]

in they end they get a bad experience with OS grind and just not do it

so being prepared before you start is probably good

[granite rain]

It's really no different from pushing campaign, just with buying out a few shops every day

[fading jungle]

i played for about a year back in 2020(? maybe 21) and have had a large break since. came back for the odd event here and there, but never actually put my nose to the grind stone

Realizing how much i forgot about the game in that time. took me a week to find the dorm again

[whole crypt]

the game experience is just a lot better with consistency, I don't seriously recommend adding OS to your to-do list if you don't have the time to start and get acquainted with it

[fading jungle]

Copy, will focus on blitzing to 13-4

is Unzen any good?

realized i hadnt looked at my 2nd fleet in a while, Unzen, Ayanami, Shimanto make up the vanguard there. iirc Shimanto can be very handy when fully leveled but i never heard anything about Unzen

[sharp echo]

these 2 worth to make?

[wind hazel]

unzen is one of the strongest vanguard dps in the game, she's very good

if anything, ayanami gets the boot

[sharp echo]

this thing good>?

[fading jungle]

who should i swap Ayanami with?

[wind hazel]

a tank i suppose

something like anchorage will do for 13-4

[fading jungle]

Anchorage is in the first fleet. would Jintsuu work? She is Retroed

[wind hazel]

no...
maybe show your vanguard

[late flame]

anchorage and guam same fleet being kinda redundant since they can both handle tanking

[granite rain]

Make a fleet thread and post your dock there

[wind hazel]

where do you see guam

[late flame]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1335562611047268393

[wind hazel]

he said unzen ayanami shimanto tho 😭

[fading jungle]

Guam, Laff II, and ANC make up my first fleets Van

[wind hazel]

so bring anchorage over

or even guam, kick anchorage off, slot in dps

[fading jungle]

Full dock?

[granite rain]

If you want the best advice then yes

[sharp echo]

who to get? or maybe just mlb the ryuuhou?

my CVs

[nimble knoll]

Is this gud to +10?

With my Merits, should I buy Sr Bulins?

[atomic abyss]

Yes to both

[late flame]

depends if you need tech for sakura or royal navy

[rapid grail]

yea its pretty much the main reason to pvp at all

[sharp echo]

is this just a matter of what armor the enemy is using ?

[sharp echo]

i actually dunno, still clueless XD

[soft raft]

Technically yes but in this specific case, the gun on the left is categorically dogshit

[sharp echo]

oh? why is that? i thought they are similar
volley spread?

[late flame]

Lab > Fleet Technology > Faction

[sharp echo]

actually non existence

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/equip/44140
https://azurlane.nagami.moe/equip/34140
See the dmg

[soft raft]

At +10 for both, the Left gun is 132 x 2 damage while IJN Twin 410 is 154 x 2 damage

And IJN Twin 410 has way better anti-light armor mod in exchange for slightly lower Anti-med/heavy mod in comparison

[plain saffron]

ok that was too big

[sharp echo]

oh the dmg scaling. understood

[plain saffron]

that's why you always compare equips at +10 or +13

[sharp echo]

[late flame]

then pick either of the cranes (shou/zuikaku)

[white agate]

is z52 cross fleet only based on her skill level so if i use her at 4 star it's the same as at 6 stars or is there a difference?

[soft raft]

Iirc Crossfleets are both off of skill lvl and FP/AVI

[shell sigil]

Need some advice how to equip this one, I mean the priority of crafting and what I should craft.

[tulip zenith]

Watarase is good with musashi right

[soft raft]

replace that main gun with a 406 Mk 6 asap jesus

[soft raft]

Neither of them really have any form of synergy with eachother but sure ig

[granite rain]

Kitakaze, Mainz, Or Roon better for off-tanks? Trying to pick one for mob and one for boss

Anchorage and Agir are main tanks rn

[late flame]

where are you using them?

[granite rain]

Just pushing campaign. In world 13 rn

Also care about OP Siren

[atomic abyss]

Mainz and Roon are roughly as tanky as each other
So just slightly worse than Portland retro

[granite rain]

I would be using them as off-tanks rather than main. Portland dps is a bit low for that, no?

I get she has MGM 1 but so do KTKZ and Mainz, and they actually have skills instead of an HP stat

[atomic abyss]

My point was moreso their tankiness is more or less equal
Anyways they're interchangeable for that particular usage outside actually difficult content
Kitakaze is much frailer and much more restricted in gear

[drifting light]

whats the best war archive to farm royal navy tech points?

[wary skiff]

whats the best way to farm up exp for this?

[tropic tusk]

W12-4 or opsi fleet or current event

[wind hazel]

personally dont recommend to farm RN tech from WA at all, better to get them from map drops through campaign and shops and whatnot

[drifting light]

i been farming 12-4 for a bit, tbh i wanted to get plymouth and since i started during TLR collab base on events we had, my eagle is a 904 and iron blood 964, while my royal navy is only at 420

thats why i wanted to farm royal navy

[wary skiff]

is 3 iron blood enough to get it at a decent rate?

i dont have many ib ships at an ok level or limit break

[soft raft]

Take 3 applicable ships + 3 other ships and go grind your ass off on W12
Keep in mind that CBs require backline XP for CDC 1 and vanguard XP for CDC2

[tropic tusk]

It said main fleet so only main fleet counts,meaning not vanguard or subs

[wary skiff]

oh duhh

well i got 2x mainfleet 1x vanguard for this

[wind hazel]

well get more

[wary skiff]

gotta save cubes or smthin for the ur event

[drifting light]

when are we getting another ur event?

[soft raft]

Divergent chessboard is right there

[wary skiff]

late feb or somethin

[wind hazel]

within this to next month or so

[soft raft]

Extremely likely to be late Feb
We've had a pattern of new URs being Feb/May/Sept/Dec for the past 3 years

[wary skiff]

oh i just googled that and you reminded me i had more iron blood like z46

[soft raft]

And there's a non-zero chance we'll get Implcable rern sometime after the Feb UR as well, could be basically right after the Feb UR for all we know

[tropic tusk]

Z46 id vanguard ships tho

[wary skiff]

yea for the next farm

just going to set them up to level a bit more during this run

[tropic tusk]

[fading jungle]

ANy idea what nation it should be?

[whole crypt]

no

the earliest we'll know is like a week or so before when they start teaser tweets and stuff

[tulip zenith]

Doesn’t musashi want to shoot fast and watarase thing procs off main fleet attacks

Or is that negligible

[zinc hedge]

Try to lb and farm elite ships from campaign/event..

I also try to mlb common, rare and elite by putting them in dorm..

[wind hazel]

no you're right about musashi watarase pairing. just that often than not, watarase isn't the picks for whatever you wanna do. but if you're using watarase for whatever reason, pairing her with musashi is good

her damage against heavy is very strong from what i remember

-# but uzen is stronger

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx ☺️

[pearl olive]

Is she worth developing?

[soft raft]

Have you already got FdG, All of PR4 except Marco, and at least Plymouth and Brest done?

And even if you do have all of them done, I'd frankly do Shimanto first out of PR6

Hindenburg and Kearsarge are good, but they arent High high prio as they've mostly been used in Operation Siren

[pearl olive]

Understood

Thank you

[zinc hedge]

Is georgia still worth for research?

[fierce sable]

hi, could someone help me forming like 1-2 fleets that would help me clear some difficult content, like ex stages during the events?

those are my urs, any recommendations?

[wind hazel]

for her tech, i guess

[zinc hedge]

My UR BB now is FdG, NJ, Musashi,

I read in tierlist, Georgia is good for bossing, can Georgia replace any of those 3 ur bbs?

[wind hazel]

lol no

[molten zinc]

lemme guess ECTL?

[zinc hedge]

Yes.. ectl

[wind hazel]

just skip her. get her when you want that +2FP BB

[zinc hedge]

Okay.. thanks

[tropic tusk]

Are there ships that's limited to com only?

[wind hazel]

to be fair ectl has georgia down at T2... the 3 mentioned above are all TEX pretty self explanatory...

[novel solstice]

Not only are there no comm-only ships, the pool of ships that you can get from the launch ceremony is entirely ships that were available at launch, so they've all been horrendously power-crept.

[molten zinc]

plus the chance you get gold ship from those scam comm is really low

[wind hazel]

i'll have you know i've gotten ||KENT|| before

[eager mulch]

I have no opinions on ECTL

[nimble knoll]

Should I awaken Yk2 or nah-

[ivory pawn]

You’ll want her at 120 eventually. More a question of if you need the coin for anything else.

[nimble knoll]

Well my research is fully queued, and I'm not using it as of rn, so

[eager mulch]

sus yt2 gear

[glossy granite]

Does Littorio actually give 120 tech points once MLB 💀

Thank god i have her somehow, aswell wiht 3 SR other ships from Sardegna

[spring bolt]

40 acquire 80 mlb 60 lv120

[wary skiff]

is it more advisable to make odin offlag than flag due to her positioning quirk, or does it not really matter

[glossy granite]

Finally i got 630 Iron tech points LETS GOOO, now i wonder how long will it take to finish Friedrich 😅

[soft raft]

people mainly put her off flag
but tbh that gimmick wont save her from UR BB Powercreep

[wary skiff]

wdym ur bb powercreep

shes definitely my strongest unit beside shinano, haven't gotten any UR BB's yet but i assumed she would get replaced eventually

oh do ur bbs have targeted shots or something which cleave / hit odin no matter her positioning

[glossy granite]

How meta is napoli?

[river junco]

Napoli is a good tank, not really sure if she’s meta

[gusty arrow]

Wait wtf u can do over dmg?

[silk sphinx]

nope, just i think you spawned a new boss while they were fighting

so i think the damage carried over to the new boss and was counted twice

something of that sort

[carmine heath]

Does this reset?

[silk sphinx]

stuff like this happens if you spawn a new boss while another player is assisting you

[silk sphinx]

on a monthly basis yes

so 1st March it will be restocked

[soft raft]

UR BBs are just stronger than SR BBs in general regardless of any funny gimmicks the latter may have

[silk sphinx]

by a pretty obscene margin too

[soft raft]

It's only recently (like 2023) that the higher end of the SR BB powerscale has started to reach the lower end of the UR BB powerscale

[wary skiff]

well ye shes gonna be a placeholder till then, i dont have any ur bbs, working on agir rn then gonna work on grosse and limit break my nj

[ocean shuttle]

Is it worth concerning myself with cat farming at all, given that i have the giga cracked event cats?

I've got all SR available cats to max level and rank, some with okay to decent talents (some UR talents), plus a UR talent eilweiss

I can't see anything really beating out the event cats even if i got some god rolls though

[soft raft]

Depends on how much you want to tryhard min maxxing cat talents

[ocean shuttle]

it doesn't take too much effort, so i'm not against it

[soft raft]

Nah it takes a fuck ton of coins and time to min max cats

So unless you absolutely have nothing else to spend your coins on, wouldn't recommend

[white agate]

because event cats are sure craked(best cats are normal sr cats and some usable elite one; event one are fixed in talent and have lower performance ceiling)

[ocean shuttle]

time doesn't bother me really and I have 4 fleets of bis (or close enough) with proper augs. I'll have to look into how to even properly respec farm cat talents, never bothered before

[white agate]

i think in #bot-spam there is a guide under / cats

[ocean shuttle]

didn't realise, i thought the event ones just blew regular ones out of the water almost all the time <3

[ocean shuttle]

tyty

[white agate]

no, technically speaking those event cats are just simpler to start with due to having useful fixed talents, but if you get the right talents on the sr of the normal pool those outperform easily the event ones

[wanton dawn]

farming xp for research in 14-4 is quite unreasonable right? farming 14-1 is usually with lvl125 ships for coin right?

[white agate]

why would you waste exp on lvl 125 ships?

[ocean shuttle]

Why would you be xp farming 14-4, everything that can complete 14-4 would die if not at or near 120, depending on setup

[wanton dawn]

yea since i am able to full auto 14-4 only with my best setup, i am wondering if 14-4 is only for coins

[white agate]

only reason to do chapter after 12 is in case you need either a ship drop or if you really are in dire need of cog chips

[wanton dawn]

oh i thought 14-4 gives most coins per oil?

:0

[white agate]

i think it should be 11-1 and even then you do 12-1 usually since it gives cogn chips unlike 11-1; if in need of more coins you can go for 12-4. check pins for exp/oil and coin/oil

[wanton dawn]

i think 11-1 is the most xp:oil efficient map

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/tWzvkCm.png which is better for plymouth?

[ocean shuttle]

Bubbly has more raw hp at max enchant, but restores HP less often (20s vs 15s). They're basically the same, but bubbly for bossing i guess for the raw HP, toolbox for mobbing to proc heals more often. Barely any real difference though.

[runic bluff]

do someone tested the valentines gift to also include like missed years messages like

you get the 2023 and 2024 valentine mail for that shipgirl if you used her 2022 valentines message in depot?

or it only applies on 2021 and earlier (1st valentibe mail)?

[jaunty vault]

you only get that year's message for which the shipgirl was secretary

[misty flume]

Hello, i am a new player. From these units what might be a good starter team rn and what should i focus on to get more resources.

[zinc turret]

So i have maxed fs saint louis , is it worth to use general bp series 6 & 7 to analyze it ?

[forest palm]

Unicorn, Javelin, and Portland

[zinc turret]

Focus mlb n retro unicorn , buy helena and portland , just focus build 1 fleet first

[jaunty vault]

it is better to use those BPs on the ships of those seasons first

[misty flume]

Where can i get helena and portland

[zinc turret]

I see thanks

[zinc turret]

Shop , supply shop , guild shop

[misty flume]

I see

So like i should focus clearing story rn?

[zinc turret]

Dont forget to do the event too , its pretty rare event that can give u the most rare resource in the game for f2p which is gem

Atleast the missions , drawing book , mini game and use the red envelope at manjuu resort for gem

[soft raft]

well that part is more like side-events
but yes LNY/CNY is the big thing for F2Ps besides Anniv when it comes to free gems

[misty flume]

Oh ic

[vital meadow]

can some1 give me a standard comp for ch 15?

[stark quiver]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[vital meadow]

is fleet 1 from the example fleet the mob fleet? one with unicorn?

[soft raft]

unicorn fleet is the mob fleet yes

[tulip zenith]

Would Watarase with champagne flag be decent

I know it’s cope but it sounds funny

[glossy granite]

Does ''Added to perm pool'' just mean you can get them from building ships

my reading comprehension not in its prime atm

[worldly pewter]

what are u planning to do with them ?

[tulip zenith]

Idk heavy armor boss ig

[solemn salmon]

yeah

[worldly pewter]

why did u specify these 2 ships ?

[glossy granite]

I thought they meant added to the drop pool lol

[tulip zenith]

Cuz Watarase barrage procs on flagship attack and champagne attacks rly fast

[worldly pewter]

min maxing watarase barrage by nerfing the main line damage not worth unless the content can be done with whatever so u can go ahead and do it

[elfin hollow]

which purple ships worth mlb

[worldly pewter]

all of them
if u want early use
uni helena starter dd fu shun sara nelson after retro

[tulip zenith]

I’ll take it

[elfin hollow]

why all of them?

[worldly pewter]

because they give tech points to their respective faction which is more stats for all the ships

[elfin hollow]

ok

[runic bluff]

you gonna mlb them anyway in the near future for lv 120 tech stats to add

[solemn salmon]

no i think perma build is when you build ships and farmable ships is ones you can get from clearing levels

[runic bluff]

except for collabs, muse, child ver

[soft raft]

I mean in the corner of each of the squares it lists what banner pool they were added to

[elfin hollow]

wdym child ver

[boreal wagon]

some ships have child-like alt versions of themselves

[elfin hollow]

help

[worldly pewter]

u didn't help urself by putting mamagi in the dorm for some passive exp and left her lvl 1 for 5 months ouch kinda hurts
use ur mobbing team and retro unicorn

[elfin hollow]

who mamagi

[worldly pewter]

amagi

[elfin hollow]

oh umm is she any good or nah

and i got no mobbing team

what does amagi do

[worldly pewter]

then make a mobbing fleet izi

[elfin hollow]

help

[soft raft]

BC Version is fairly decent but falls off quite easily
CV Version absolutely pog

[elfin hollow]

so umm how

[soft raft]

how what?

[worldly pewter]

use port laffey helena uni for now
u have to start leveling nelson and amagi
u can keep using percy as a placeholder

get an shan and fu shun especially the retro item from the event

[eager mulch]

he doesn’t have amagi

[eager mulch]

That’s not Amagi that’s Amagi CV

[elfin hollow]

do i need to mlb her to be pog

i will try getting more ur bullin and sacrifice them

[novel solstice]

Any ship that you are going to use should be mlb as soon as possible, they gain a lot of power from those limit breaks.

[elfin hollow]

ok

so which ur to prior mlb for me I got shimano amagi and fritz

[soft raft]

How many UR Bullins do you have right now?

[elfin hollow]

why

[elfin hollow]

none, but I can buy 1 rn

[tropic tusk]

Don't buy unless U can mlb

[soft raft]

Hold off for now then, general rule of thumb is to not limit break a UR unless you can MLB her in one go

esp since it's extremely likely that we'll get a new UR later this month which may or may not have higher priority

[soft raft]

Have you read this by any chance? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elfin hollow]

which one

[tropic tusk]

All of them

[soft raft]

if you're asking who the Feb UR will be, we have no clue until the week prior when the devs tell us

[elfin hollow]

I only got so little cubes

[soft raft]

this is why you save and only do 1 light pull per day outside of events

but either way Gacha URs are always worth going for regardless if you have 400 cubes or not

The 400 figure is mainly the total you need to hit Pity if you get extremely unlucky

[elfin hollow]

I don't

[soft raft]

jfc

Please dont tell me you get baited by the perament URs

[elfin hollow]

no

I did wishing well and I got umm 2 ur before perseus

[soft raft]

That's even more cursed considering that Wishing Well events often run alongside a UR event

[elfin hollow]

I got the ur

and then did my wishing well pulls

[soft raft]

Honestly I dont really like reccomending Wishing well to people
esp if they're new like you

Would've been a better move to just go back to your daily light pull after getting the event UR

[mild sail]

This is 14-4

There will be problems when the mob fleet out of ammo

Currently 10% damage reduction

[elfin hollow]

wait was there a ur when wishing well on june happened?

cuz amagi was on sept and I got amagi

[soft raft]

CN Anniv is May (Which is a UR month)
and that has Wishing Well event

[elfin hollow]

in global

since in global june was the wishing well I think

and amagi was sept I don't remember a ur with wishing well

[soft raft]

we still get the May UR
the Wishing well you're talking about started late May and ended middle July

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I missed it I played after the UR I think

[soft raft]

and note that I said Often, not always

[elfin hollow]

was there a ur during may

I missed it cuz I played after..

[forest palm]

Wishing Wells typically run roughly around May 25th (CN Anniversary), and August 12 (EN Anniversary).

[soft raft]

Feb, May, Sept, and Dec are the UR slots

[elfin hollow]

what was that may ur

[viscid swift]

Alsace and Mogador

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Light_of_the_Martyrium

[elfin hollow]

do they rerun ur

[soft raft]

Yes

[forest palm]

in like 2 years

[elfin hollow]

why 2 years tho

[forest palm]

because backlog is a bitch

[soft raft]

that's just how it is

[elfin hollow]

wdym who backlog

[soft raft]

Look at the image I just posted

[elfin hollow]

is it worth oathing those who got no oath skin

[forest palm]

oath who you like

[soft raft]

Just oath waifu
esp if you're F2P

[elfin hollow]

which ur got oath skin

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Oath_Skins

[elfin hollow]

dang i need to oath

for the exam but no ur I have oath skin

how to get comission merit

[stark quiver]

do commision

[elfin hollow]

The currency

[white agate]

pvp is for merit, not commission

[soft raft]

He's talking about this

[white agate]

is that called merit? thought it had another name, lemme check

[soft raft]

they're called Comission merits yes

[elfin hollow]

I need so many yellow cruiser ship for unicorn retro and hard stages are impossible for me

[forest palm]

AL currency naming is not all that original

[elfin hollow]

no way to get unicorn retro i guess but need it for progress

[soft raft]

she's a carrier not a cruiser
if you need help, feel free to post your dock in a thread

[elfin hollow]

yeah i did and they told me to retro her

when I'm newbie and struggle to even clear 3-4 for the yellow drop hard mode

[soft raft]

her retro is not a must for progression but is indeed massively pog and worth rushing asap

note that her retrofit didnt even exist until like 3 years ago out of the game's 6-7 year lifespan so people have used her base form just fine

[worldly pewter]

don't bother with 3☆ just move to w15

[soft raft]

when did they add lvl 9 for the faction tech bonuses again?
Wonder if they'll ever add more lvls

[worldly pewter]

[jaunty vault]

years ago

i dont really expect an upgrade

[worldly pewter]

after a year of playing i m at 7775
i think it needs around 2.5 years for a new player to reach 9999 without spamming c1

[barren tapir]

9999 of what

[stark quiver]

faction tech

[barren tapir]

wouldnt that be limited by available ships anyway

i dont get the c1 factor

also while c1 helps with exp and cubes to an extent youd still be gated on mlb tech by bulins and 120 tech by cogs

[weary gust]

There ain't no way you have 7775 fleet tech in a single faction after a year of playing. If you mean your combined fleet tech of all factions then you're nowhere near level 9 and I don't know why you're using 9999 as the goal

12150 would be total for level 9 tech in all, and that would be the bare minimum.

[barren tapir]

uh well if it matters im at 5758 total

[worldly pewter]

9999 = level 9 in each faction

[weary gust]

That is not how it works.

[stark quiver]

what ost does challenge mode use

[worldly pewter]

isn't that the current cap ?

[forest palm]

they're talking about Faction Tech Level which is 9

[weary gust]

It's 2700 tech in USS/IJN/HMS, and 4050 in KMS. Level 9 is the max level

[eager mulch]

[weary gust]

I don't know if any faction besides KMS can even get over 7000 tech in their faction alone atm, I don't think so.

[forest palm]

it's a bit moronic to type it that way though

[weary gust]

Oh I see now what he means. Lol ...

[worldly pewter]

how should i do it ? 9/9/9/9

[weary gust]

That would have been much better yes.

[forest palm]

"Lv 9 for each faction" is just as readable

grammar is fun

[weary gust]

That's not even grammar it's just AL naming everything the same and the numbers being coincidentally close for how he decided to compress expressing the levels

[forest palm]

no, in this particular case it is bad grammar

it's the type of phrasing that makes sense in the persons head, but from another's perspective makes no sense or is wrong

[fading wadi]

How come my fleets prioritise certain caches in OpSi before doing fights or other things and then get other caches? Are there different types of the yellowy caches, or is it just random?

[wind hazel]

125125125 fleet

[wind hazel]

the AI is stupid, can't fix the auto priority targeting

[forest palm]

I believe objectives have a higher pirority

[fading wadi]

I see, fair enough 😅

[forest palm]

like it should be observable, it's not stupidity

[barren tapir]

it just has a set priority targeting and goes down the list in order

[weary gust]

Priority is dailies -> cat node -> nearest next target -> merchant if there is one

[neon patio]

How much does the right gear effect your ships?

[forest palm]

no, Cat Nodes have the highest prority

[weary gust]

The best ships with bad gear are worse than the worst ships with good gear.

For the most part.

[barren tapir]

additionally in hiddens it's the rally point first before the rest, and for explorables, promoted pawns/boss fleet is lowest priority besides merchant if there is one iirc

[neon patio]

Okay good 2 know

[forest palm]

if objective is blocked in some way AI will proceed to fight enemies in the way to reach the objective

this is how you Skill XP farm in Hidden Zones

[solemn salmon]

If im already using Amagi(cv) and Shinano in my fleet would it be better to add Musashi in the lineup or should i continue to use Sovetsky Soyuz?

[forest palm]

neither you'd pick up August

well it depends on what the content is

[solemn salmon]

already using her 🙂

[forest palm]

it all depends on what content this is for

[solemn salmon]

operation siren boss fleet

[forest palm]

ya no August would be better

[worldly pewter]

i think the collection files have the same priority as the cat nodes

[solemn salmon]

would it work for world 12-14?

[forest palm]

12 and 13 sure, 14 depends on some factors

[worldly pewter]

it is a more reasonable choice to use a third cv because usually u want 2 cv buffers in the vanguard line

[tender girder]

wow.. this thing is SPOT ON

[ivory pawn]

It's literally just the order the events originally ran in.

[turbid nebula]

Are any of these worth building?

[forest palm]

nope

[soft raft]

That's literally just the release order
And it's compiled and maintained by me on my own server

[tender girder]

i can't believe that i started in yorktown 2 and JUST missed musashi

[wind hazel]

first one is used for timing adjustment, very niche

[eternal basalt]

-events all around (raid, collab, pirate etc.)

[tender girder]

well thanks for maintaining the list.

[solemn salmon]

so for example I'd want 2 sakura empire ships in my vanguard to buff amagi and shinano?

[ivory pawn]

"rerunnable events". Fair distinction I that should've made.

[wind hazel]

you only need 1 more, and that's usually kazagumo. the other 3 can be whatever faction

eg you can run amagi shinano avp anchorage kazagumo sirius

[white agate]

doing 13-1 hard on air parity on lethal was not a good idea

[eager mulch]

[glossy granite]

Btw in the research guide what makes Anchorage high priority?

[reef flume]

One of the best tanks in game I guess

[solemn salmon]

ahhhhh gotcha. thank you

[turbid marsh]

good ehp, and a lot of smoke to protect all other frontline

[worldly pewter]

the smoke screen gives guaranteed eva or increases the eva ?

[wary skiff]

is bolzano worth trying out?.. shes purple rarity it looks like

[wind hazel]

increase eva

[viscid swift]

she's CA FP, that's really all she's good for

[eager mulch]

aren’t there two bolanzos now

[viscid swift]

yes, but that applies to both

[crisp estuary]

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

most all Meta share the same 120 Tech as their originals

[crisp estuary]

Meta have tech?

[loud cedar]

Alrighty, so it's been roughly a month since i last asked for help and was stuck on 14-3, but while trying to follow the tips given to me but adjusting with what i've been able to find gear wise i've finally cleared it! However, I am now stuck on 14-4! \o/

[viscid swift]

how? 14-4 should if anything be easier than 14-3

[loud cedar]

Well, that's why i'm here, to pick smarter folks brains lol

I am using the same build you yourself gave me for 14-3 if it matters any but maybe that shows i've yet to learn anything meaningful orz

[viscid swift]

if you followed that then you shouldn't be struggling with 14-4

[loud cedar]

Hmm

[wary skiff]

is there a guide for research academy prio

[loud cedar]

It's not exact tbf I improvised on some parts but my issue seems to be mob fleet ends up dying with like 2-3 remaining mobs on the field and Boss fleet seems to get my flagship destroyed half the time if frontline doesn't die first?

[worldly pewter]

u need first to describe ur issue

[viscid swift]

you're trying to 3 star?

[loud cedar]

Well, i'm trying to clear first but I try to 3* if I can

I figured it was possible since it managed for 14-3 with your folks help

[viscid swift]

the thing is, if you cleared 14-3 then for mobs at least you should be fine because 14-4 you don't have to fight any mobs out of ammo just to clear it

[loud cedar]

Well, I think I do have to fight like 3-4 out of ammo but it's definitely way better situation than 14-3 was

For some reason my backline is getting destroyed in mob fights after I run out of ammo

[viscid swift]

if you're just trying to clear, you don't need to 3 star to clear a map

[worldly pewter]

what did u change exactly from what cheeky suggested ?

[viscid swift]

and I didn't build the fleet for 3 starring either, certainly not on lethal

[loud cedar]

Oh, maybe that's why it took me a month lol

[barren tapir]

well i could definitely see 14-4 boss being harder

[viscid swift]

well yeah but mobs are the usually the pain point

[barren tapir]

what

[viscid swift]

well, at least that's how it's been historically

[barren tapir]

i breezed ch14 mobs and every boss besides 14-1 gave me lots of trouble (only a couple 0 reset clears)

i guess historically most ppl didnt have aquila tho

[worldly pewter]

aquila unicorn z52 is that giga cracked

[loud cedar]

Well, if it was just mob clearing to reach boss that appears to be doable but either way. I seem to be getting destroyed by the boss as well. This is what I ended up running gear wise in the end

[viscid swift]

well there was a fair bit of time when FDG wasn't coinable and W14's release

[barren tapir]

you forgot momo and neptune which id argue play a decent role too

my entire fleet ended up basically perfectly synced for both dd and bb nodes in terms of timing and defense.

[stark quiver]

normalise thread

[viscid swift]

well Skyraider ion Amagi less than ideal

[stark quiver]

double tb in nano as well

[viscid swift]

as is all converging TBs in Shinano

[stark quiver]

agir with a medkit sounds sus

sashis secondary is shit

[viscid swift]

you're also not using a 155 Kai on Izumo or Musashi which lynchpin for defence in W14

[barren tapir]

also im still convinced aquila didnt actually play a huge role for me bc backline basically never took any dmg, ill do ch14 runs without her later to see like ye she definitely helped vg hp no doubt but my vg wasnt exactly squishy either, neptune is gigatank, z52 selfheals constantly and heals others 3 times, and momo buffs eva and heals as well and all 3 have decent to high ehp

[stark quiver]

lol

[loud cedar]

Is that the gun for 2nd slot?

[viscid swift]

yes

Yeah this wasn't a suggestion, it was borderline a requirement

[soft raft]

Was Uranami ever avalible outside of her intial run?
kida surprised she isnt perma despite being 5 years old at this point

[barren tapir]

think she reran once in 2023

[viscid swift]

she reran once in like 2023

[worldly pewter]

yeah nowadays with the modern ships w14 on auto is very doable with just uni and another pseudo healer at most
aquila is 100% overkill

[barren tapir]

so cope for perma in 2026 or 2027 lol

[soft raft]

Damn ig i somehow missed her then lol

[barren tapir]

yeah i expect i could easily replace her for indep or sara and do comparably well

aquila really only definitely helped me when i 3* 14-4.

[loud cedar]

Rip. is there no remotely close non gearlab alternative?

[viscid swift]

This is why I say 100% collection takes like 2.5 years

[barren tapir]

and presumably others but i didnt 3* any of the rest i was just aiming to reach ch15 so

[viscid swift]

there's the Plymouth gun but

[stark quiver]

cheeky have you ever whaled for cubes

[viscid swift]

never

[barren tapir]

just get yourself the 155kais theyre the goto cl gun too anyway so its a safe investment

[worldly pewter]

cheeky is f2p until recently

[viscid swift]

I think i have like 100 more in mail on top of this

[barren tapir]

i feel inadequate

[loud cedar]

Ah, I think thats the rainbow one, right? So equally out of reach for me for a while. So if I got my hands on two of those and non converging planes it should somehow work out?

[white agate]

akashi paw spotted

[viscid swift]

tbf, 953 is still really impressive in 4 months even if you did skip a number of events

[stark quiver]

imagine having more than 800 cubes

i purposely pitied yk2

[worldly pewter]

did u take a break from the game or were u playing but away from this help channel ?

[stark quiver]

abdou strats are real

[barren tapir]

i only skipped leonardo and musashi and northhampton 2 i guess, got every other relevant ship more or less. skipping fu po and chang feng tho.

[viscid swift]

it would be a big improvement because now you can more relably take out those 10k HP ramming ships

[barren tapir]

was there any other ship in roma event besides leo roma and shop ship

[white agate]

leonardo oh, leo nvm

[barren tapir]

oh wait i missed watarase too, rip

[loud cedar]

I started the game at the end of Sept during the final days of that Zuihou banner and tend to just take it day by day

[barren tapir]

but besides those i think i got everyone else so far

[soft raft]

Moment
I'm like at 85% collection rn so I was compiling a list of ships I'm missing earlier lol

[barren tapir]

good progress tbh.

im mad i missed zuihou tho

[loud cedar]

Hmm what about for the boss node? From waht i'm seeing I think the bb itself is killing my flagship

[glossy granite]

I missed like every event, played mid 2020-march 2021 and i played the game afterwards once every 6 months until Dec 2024 where now i finally take this game seriously

[barren tapir]

ch14 bosses are rng fests tbh if u get an unlucky bb shot and get set on fire and then get revealed that ship just turbodies

[viscid swift]

stagger could be a bit better looking back it's more of a gearing issue because you're not wave clearing efficiently enough

[barren tapir]

but better stagger/dmg uptime and generally higher dmg for faster clearing will alleviate it

[barren tapir]

kek i had clears where sara got randomly burned, revealed herself by spamming too many skills, and then died in like 2 seconds

[loud cedar]

Ah, alright. Thanks again folks

Actually, btw I did end up building both Yorktown 2, Ryuuhou and Hakuryuu. Would any of those 3 be better slot ins

[worldly pewter]

if u were active enough from that time until now u should be able to craft 1 wyvern
it will help a lot in dps
u can also buy another baguette

[barren tapir]

should be able to craft at least 2

[hollow gust]

would be higher if it wasnt for my 400 cubes to get chien wu

[wind hazel]

you guys so rich

[barren tapir]

and 3 if a bit lucky on drops (i wasnt, got my first plane print like 2 days ago iirc lol)

[loud cedar]

I ended up severely slacking in siren. I barely cleared ch 4 or 5 and started getting gold mats lol

[barren tapir]

breguet subs fine and well enough for that purpose tho imo

[worldly pewter]

yeah i m just being easy on the man

[loud cedar]

I juggle about 8 gacha games so i'm always behind in one or another orz

[barren tapir]

bearing that in mind ngl being deep into ch14 at that pace is pretty impressive

[loud cedar]

Thanks, honestly couldn't have done it without asking for help here at each roadblock though lol

[ocean shuttle]

At what point is it worth starting to roll a cat's talent as to not make it obsolete too quickly?
1 good UR and 2 junk skills? 2 good UR talents? 1 good UR and 1 good normal talent?

[viscid swift]

I would only reroll a cat if it has good starting talents

Like so for a CV cat

[stark quiver]

do u buy cat box

[viscid swift]

right now yeah

Like I'm debating whether or not I reroll this furtjer

[stark quiver]

mayb i should start buying too

[wind hazel]

all 15?

[stark quiver]

2 pt left

[viscid swift]

nah, only during quite periods, it's usually just 5

[stark quiver]

i would honestly keep

[undone plover]

I would keep it tbh
maybe get another one for rld

[viscid swift]

yeah that was my thought

[stark quiver]

what are the next talents?

[wind hazel]

😭 i've been rerolling for flames for 6months+ now

[viscid swift]

Nothing good

[undone plover]

I rerolled an oscar flame into soulful twice but didnt get the last bb talent I wanted

[worldly pewter]

i never saw a flame skill before

[stark quiver]

haha rolling cats

[viscid swift]

I guess artillery might be useful with Soyuz Nahkimov fleets but

[stark quiver]

every flame i ever rolled was bricked with a faction talent

[worldly pewter]

i will never change my being a mountain enjoyer preference

[stark quiver]

i mean if youre just gonna keep the cat, might as well use the last 2 pts

[viscid swift]

yeah I suppose

[stark quiver]

my only good cats are tempesta cats

[barren tapir]

mountain poggies for campaign but elsewhere idk (imo)

[stark quiver]

And these two are my only cv cats
Had to roll ace for both

[barren tapir]

how much ehp does miracle give

[wind hazel]

wtf 40rld cats

[viscid swift]

I have 2 that started with Ace, had pretty mixed success on their rerolls

[stark quiver]

they both started on mech and officer rookie
had to sell my soul

[worldly pewter]

what are the stats affected by lck ?

[barren tapir]

hmm if 15 luck is about 3% ehp then 5 luck is 1% ehp

tho thats scaling off anchorage fs5 calc. i assume lck bonus would differ in value for different ships due to their eva/original luck maybe

so basically 1/3rd the value of mountain, probably a bit less

[stark quiver]

do you guys have perfect cats

[barren tapir]

tho luck also boosts hit rate i guess

[wind hazel]

only oscar...

[barren tapir]

idk how much value 0.5% hitrate has tho, probably negligible LOL

[stark quiver]

i think i have a 9 pointer steel, absolute tragedy, no flame

[barren tapir]

luck provides 0.1% evarate and 0.1% hitrate per luck. dunno if it gives anything else

[viscid swift]

ehhh, maybe 2

[shell willow]

when survivability isnt an issue do we take fp or trp aux for ddgs?

next to seal

[barren tapir]

oh yeah probability of crits or avoiding crits also

[undone plover]

depends on the individual dd
some prefer fp
some prefer TRP
altho not a lot of fp auxes are available

[worldly pewter]

i remember these calculations having massive equations to them
about hit and hitrate stuff

[stark quiver]

ss cat

[undone plover]

oh my bad u said ddg
I actually dont know that

[shell willow]

[stark quiver]

looking at ygs, im really slacking on cats ngl

[worldly pewter]

from neko

[barren tapir]

yeah so 0.1% hitrate for attacker and 0.1% evarate for defender

[mild sail]

Why people use Flapjack instead of Tigercat

[worldly pewter]

people use both
depends on the situation u use the better gear for it

faer did u craft a tigercat ?

[undone plover]

after crunching some numbers I want to say u want oxytrorp since we dont have any great FP auxes

+10 oxy increases missile dmg by ~22%
fargo drone increases TY main gun dmg by ~5% sth similar for her barrage probably but I am not sure

[rain vine]

flapjacks are slower and have a faster intercept RoF

[shell willow]

i happen to have an oxy at +13 too so thats good to know, thx

[kindred flicker]

how do i get 5 more

[mild sail]

Wait, the HIT stats and Luck stats is the same?

[glossy granite]

We getting operation convergence rerun?

And i assume its a skip for most people

[kindred flicker]

??????

[glossy granite]

Cuz it dosent look really good at all

[stark quiver]

It says on the text

[mild sail]

Okay Hit on gear is ACC on ship stat board

Why do this

[cobalt gate]

other than rainbow and fish submarine, what are units i should lvl to 125

[stark quiver]

Ships that you’re gonna use a lot

And ships that you’ll use in hard content

[cobalt gate]

i feel like i mostly use rainbow

[worldly pewter]

then 125 the rainbows

[mild sail]

Say, should I use Soyuz gun for META boss?

[cobalt gate]

i did

[hollow gust]

too slow

[stark quiver]

That works
But uh why kear

[storm heron]

if it syncs with your carrier's planes sure

[stark quiver]

Why do you need to sync kear

[worldly pewter]

kear against taihou

[stark quiver]

Or just run 457
Probably the better option

[mild sail]

Soyuz herself is using that

[worldly pewter]

what is ur comp at this point

[storm heron]

you will probably gain more by using someone else other than kear if the META boss is Maihou

[worldly pewter]

scrap this
make a better one

[mild sail]

Renown

[storm heron]

iirc you need to sync her guns to yt planes, or her planes to friendly bb, idr why

[mild sail]

10 sec window

[stark quiver]

You just need kear to fire before

[storm heron]

maybe I misunderstood

[stark quiver]

You don’t need to specifically sync
Kear fires her planes hella fast

[hollow gust]

you are not syncing plane with BB salvo lmao

[stark quiver]

15s bb salvo go brrr

[mild sail]

Please don't put me in front of the firing squad

[stark quiver]

Yea you’re getting firing squaded for that

[worldly pewter]

use 3 modern BBs including soyuz
ply ddg helena as vanguard
that is the typical BB meta boss comp

[stark quiver]

Why ddg

[odd dagger]

Quick question can you transfer your mobile game data to the steam game or no

[stark quiver]

No

[odd dagger]

Ok

[stark quiver]

They’re separate games

[worldly pewter]

in case helena whiffs a lot the ddg damage can compensate a bit to make it close to a oneshot

[mild sail]

Crosswave is a different game
There currently no PC client for Azur Lane

[mild sail]

👍

Who count as modern?

[worldly pewter]

musashi BZ soyuz alsace vanguard

[mild sail]

'kay

[worldly pewter]

u can also use the CV fleet btw sinano mamagi impla

[mild sail]

Oh damn I did a lot of things wrong with the gears

[worldly pewter]

such as ?

[mild sail]

Kear above

[worldly pewter]

doesn't matter much having a better comp will do more anyway

[mild sail]

Thanks for the help

[hollow gust]

What boss is that even for

There is almost no reason to use DDG for any meta fights

[granite rain]

Are the event torpedoes worth using?

[forest palm]

not really

[eager mulch]