gameplay-help

[crisp raven]

in fairness, it is one of the worst explained battle mechanics. dont feel too bad.

[spring bolt]

really doubt if hood can help a new player in anyway, especially when she needs her aug... and even after aug, hood dps is similar to nagato for light and one tier lower than nagato for med and heavy...
in the end all medal bbs look similar to new players as they will be overleveled due to cmdr level gated

[storm heron]

or the fact that player didn't even try to attack

[stark quiver]

yo gph, which is better at anti med, soy,nakh,fritz
or enty,kear,yk2

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz comp without question lol

[sweet delta]

soy for all armors

[zenith heron]

and probably in lvl 120, its only tech that matters

[atomic abyss]

Enty Kear Yk2 is quite sus for any boss that moves

[stark quiver]

its better now?

[barren tapir]

[atomic abyss]

Which is practically every light and med armour boss

[sweet delta]

i mean you put enterprise

[barren tapir]

new players run into trp issue and need kms tech for fdg so i really like the tirpitz method

[elfin hollow]

i have 55 ccubes rn should i go on a gambling spree

[atomic abyss]

No

Save for UR events since you need 400 to guarantee a UR

[viscid swift]

55 is broke

anything less than 400 is broke at this point

[barren tapir]

anything less than 712 is broke to me given how close UR and UR rerun can happen now

[elfin hollow]

1.2% of getting a UR
i like those odds

[zenith heron]

do not, its the worst way to get some, at least save them cubes, and use your other resources that you have probably available, like Merit Currency, Medals, Core Data, etc....

[atomic abyss]

Those are shit odds

Most perma URs are just worse than limited URs

[sweet delta]

youre eyeing the wrong banner

[barren tapir]

it's your funeral we can only advise best methods but

[zenith heron]

I guess I am broke then

[elfin hollow]

i hav 1 ssr cat box and 4 elite cat box what do i do with these

[nocturne glade]

around 70% of the time u wont get a UR burning all your cubes

[elfin hollow]

yes i was joking

[stark quiver]

what if like nakh instead of enty

[atomic abyss]

Enty is there lol
There's no way they're competing especially when light and med armour bosses speed around a lot
Even for stationary bosses that's very sus cos Rumey exists

[haughty dust]

which IB Vanguard unit should I use to unlock a PR/DR 6 ship? All of PR/DR 4 are fully maxed out and completed. I just finished unlocking all PR/DR7. In the interim, I’m also working on finishing the leveling for PR/DR5. That level is fully unlocked. Just not fully leveled up yet.

[atomic abyss]

Duisburg

[haughty dust]

Who else?

[atomic abyss]

Roon since she uses coins

And obviously z52

Backliners give more tech anyways

[zenith heron]

blud has a Hindenburg too, but I think probably there are better ones, so I think in Season 6, player is aiming for Felix?

[atomic abyss]

It's not like he can magically dev 30 the hindy

[haughty dust]

Ok well keep in mind though working on leveling up PR/DR as well right now and already coining the two PR ships I have left in PR 5 right now. Harbin is already fully complete for PR ships. I just have Prinz Rupprecht and Chkalov left for PR ships in 5 and Brest and Plymouth are getting close but still working on

[atomic abyss]

[haughty dust]

That being said any changes to those suggestions? In terms of the PR 5s I am working on Plymouth is dev level 29, Prinz is is working on FS 3. Harbin is fully FS'd. Chkalov is at dev level 29. Brest is at dev level 26.

[atomic abyss]

I don't even get your question
When you say unlock, do you mean grind the exp or something else

[bold stream]

Btw, which ones is UR on pr1 and pr3?

[haughty dust]

Basically working on unlocking certain PR/DRs while also trying to complete the level ups of another PR/DR level at the same time.

[atomic abyss]

PR1 has no rainbow
PR3 has drake

[bold stream]

Thanks ender!

[atomic abyss]

You're not answering my question druid

[haughty dust]

Enough research to unlock the character on one PR/DR level. While also finishing up dev levels and FS on PR/DR 5

[barren tapir]

i believe they mean exp from context

[atomic abyss]

Then use the ALREADY levelled up characters

[barren tapir]

since they asked about kms vanguard specifically and pr6 kms is both vanguard

[atomic abyss]

Like Mainz and Z47 etc

[haughty dust]

To get the xp to unlock characters I am trying to use characters that are not fully leveled yet

[main lily]

Does she need to be alive for the cv buff?

[zinc cave]

no

[atomic abyss]

Mainz and Z47 aren't fully levelled

[haughty dust]

Well who for a third then

[atomic abyss]

So the answer seems obvious

Heinrich since she's not 120 either

Or z52 if you can MLB her

[zenith heron]

I guess stick to KMS ships that are mlb but are not yet lvl 120

[haughty dust]

Working on MLBing Musashi rn and only need one more UR bulin

[atomic abyss]

This

So Mainz, Heinrich, Z47

Afterwards Duisburg if one of them hits 120

[haughty dust]

I just MLB'd Duisburg. But I can work on leveling her up in dorm now

[zenith heron]

yes if you don't bother using exp books on her for now...

[keen sable]

i use six ships because six is greater than three

[wanton dawn]

how many wyverns should i get until i move on to other rainbow gear?

[haughty dust]

That only gets her to 103

[stark quiver]

2-3

[zenith heron]

2-3 copies usually

[wanton dawn]

after wyvern, what shld i use my ? rainbow prints on?

[stark quiver]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[haughty dust]

Should their order be changed any?

[atomic abyss]

No

[zenith heron]

just worry about grinding said pr/dr ships you wanna focus, if its Felix then its any KMS ship, as long as you use the ones that are MLB but not lvl 120...

also I assume you want to level up Duisberg because of grinding on a certain chapter in campaign or what?

[haughty dust]

well since I am not good at figuring out the gear situation I will just have to give it my best guess to get them ready to grind xp

It is Felix Schultz. You are correct

Then I just have to unlock Shimanto and Flandre in PR/DR 6. Before I fully level them up though going to finish the FS for PR/DR 5 first.

Kearsarge is only dev level 10 and Hindy is only dev level 9 atm

[zenith heron]

just make sure that once you start unlocking those ships after you finish EXP Grinding another, take note of your other resources, because they might start depleting fast, like Cubes, Coins, Retrofit Blueprints, etc...

[haughty dust]

yeah I know. I try to do my three daily Hard mode each day

[rose cosmos]

The monthly reset is in two hours rite

[zinc cave]

yes

[zenith heron]

if its shops like Protocore, Medal, Core Data, and Op Si, then yes

[wanton dawn]

tyty

is there a website to show my teamcomp with gear, wld like to ask for some advice

[stark quiver]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[wanton dawn]

ty, does this site not have guam? some ships and gear seems to be missing

[fleet berry]

You're using the old version, renhex is the updated fork. Check your URL again.

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[wanton dawn]

ohh okok tyty

[fleet berry]

Use the link provided by alpha.

[thorn tartan]

do you guys recommend buying anything in the opsi meta shop?

[stark quiver]

if u need them

[thorn tartan]

i just started leveling up some meta ships, i think I will run out of mats if I actually upgrade the ships to high levels.....

but i probably don't need to upgrade them much just to 120 and park them

[fickle hollow]

is weekly reset on sunday or monday?\

[stark quiver]

monday

[thorn tartan]

monday

[fickle hollow]

[final heart]

what's the priority in the perma META pool?

[wanton dawn]

i was a bit struggling with w-14, so i was wondering if this is ok for 14-4? (hakuryuu is dev lvl30 only)

should i make more flying flapjacks? for aquila?

[atomic abyss]

there isnt any really outside fleet tech bonuses
they're all good gold ships, but none of them are particularaly notable otherwise (for now)

[atomic abyss]

biggest cause for your struggle is the CL gun on FdG

the og triple 155 is not very good at dealing with suicide boats, esp the high HP ones of w14

[wanton dawn]

what shld be used instead?

[atomic abyss]

upgrade that to the triple 155 kai

/wiki triple 155mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_16)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_17_DP_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(BL_6"_Mk_XXV_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(SK_C/25)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(MK-5)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Mle_1930)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(Type_5_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Model_1934)

Feb 1, 2025, 5:55 AM

[atomic abyss]

the second one listed here
it's basically the best non-plygun CL gun

[wanton dawn]

omg im so sorry, i was using triple 155 kai but i pressed the wrong image

[atomic abyss]

the other thing of note is An Shan's gun

twin 114 is not a DPS DD gun, it's an rof one

[wanton dawn]

ohhh

[atomic abyss]

while yuudachi retro has her barrage to compensate, an shan is wholly dependent on her main gun and missile for her damage

[wanton dawn]

icic

[atomic abyss]

at bare minimum, harbin or tashkent gun (yr best DD guns basically)

[stark quiver]

awh i came late

[atomic abyss]

ideally, mogador gun or 100 kai

also, i do not recommend the use of converging TBs for campaign

[wanton dawn]

what is the harbin gun...?

[wanton dawn]

sorry what is converging tb...😭

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Twin_130mm_Model_1936_Main_Gun_Mount

[atomic abyss]

PR5 DD gun
if you dont have it
could consider crafting the gold twin 128 in gear lab

[atomic abyss]

the gold TBs that shinano and hakuryuu are using

there are 2 main TB types in this game
parallel TBs and converging TBs

as you can see above, they excel in stationary bosses

campaign typically does not want you to sync so you throw converging torps out the window usually

[wanton dawn]

yea or shld i buy it in the shop? i have 12 prints now

[atomic abyss]

craft the 128

[wanton dawn]

ah icic ty

[little tree]

If u want u can help me 😄

[atomic abyss]

so for shinano and hakuryuu
i would recommend moving the wyverns to their 3rd slots, and using fighters in the first slot instead

[wanton dawn]

okok, just so im clear, it is this right? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_128mm/45_SK_C/41

[atomic abyss]

im fairly sure old login furniture dont rerun

[stark quiver]

i dont click yes because i know, i click yes because yall said yes

[wanton dawn]

illl craft 2 for yudacchi and an shan right?

[wanton dawn]

ok tysm:))

[atomic abyss]

for an shan at least
i would personally recommend 114 for yuudachi

[wanton dawn]

what is rof?

[stark quiver]

rate of fire

[atomic abyss]

rate of fire
it's more for speed

it isnt a bad gun to be clear
but for an shan who just wants more gun damage it's kinda wasted on her

an shan and all the DDGs are extremely dependent on their gear to get the most outta them

[wanton dawn]

is f6f hellcat gd enough?

[atomic abyss]

yes
this isnt w15 after all

[wanton dawn]

is flying flapjack better? coz i think in the long run, i wld need more anyways?

[atomic abyss]

ofc it's better
but it's pretty expensive to craft several in the short term

[wanton dawn]

okok ty🙏

[stark quiver]

can i farm 14 affinity with 5k oil

[storm heron]

just wait monday

I need to farm like 58 affinity

[stark quiver]

i have 43m to grind it out

[polar lion]

How many runs needed per affinity?

[storm heron]

you only need 8 mvp runs for an affinity point, so 112 runs which is doable with 210 runs you can have with that oil

[keen sable]

15-20 let's say

[stark quiver]

for hard mode event
it was around 1 affinity per 15 run by neutering every ships damage mvp control

[polar lion]

Dang still a lotta runs hab to do

But it's all auto anyways so ig it's whatever

[stark quiver]

15minutes left

[storm heron]

wait what the event is gone by tomorrow?

[forest palm]

Monthly reset la

[barren tapir]

im so fucked

[storm heron]

then what is this 15 minutes

[forest palm]

you so slow

[polar lion]

Opsi reset

[stark quiver]

new cm = not prepared = uninstall

[storm heron]

oh cm speedrun

[polar lion]

I still didn't finish 4 AP crates but I'm outside so can't do anything bout it

[barren tapir]

should i begin buying sub gear

[forest palm]

this should sec, right?

[barren tapir]

my choice is prolly sub gear, oxytorp, or hold onto core data for later

[polar lion]

Sub gear moar time gated I would say

[storm heron]

definitely sub gear

[barren tapir]

idk when ill even bother raising subs tho tbh but i do have depot space anyway

[polar lion]

Depends on ur weekly rng on how many prints u get to be able to craft Bidders

[barren tapir]

i mean i dont need subs for anything in specific yet

[polar lion]

oh u definitely want dem if u wanna 1 strike/salvo kill hardbiter

[barren tapir]

but i got it i guess, idk

next month ill prolly get an oxytorp

[forest palm]

using subs 🚮

[barren tapir]

i dont really care about doing that

i guess having sub gear is good tho if i get a sub waifu i wanna max

i have over 1k ap left to spend

[forest palm]

it sync's and 4 strikes, yay for mental math

[mild sail]

Do I replace Yuudachi with Z52 or do I replace Ply

[barren tapir]

for what? if ch15, z52 is too low lvl

[mild sail]

14-4 auto

[barren tapir]

oh i thought u beat that already, well she's fine to replace yuudachi, i levelled my z52 to 120 in ch14

[mild sail]

I beat that but I will farm

I am uhhh
11% of 2.4m exp away from Nakimov

[barren tapir]

why would you farm exp in ch14

i mean you can but ch12 easier

in ch12 can run 3 backline so faster too, ch14 you need uni probably? idk actually. can try without uni but that sounds bad

[mild sail]

Also New Orleans

[barren tapir]

true ig

[mild sail]

I could put the shima torp on Z52

[wind hazel]

you dont use that ur torpedo on auto, period

[stark quiver]

sup gph, is this months harby vanguard killer

[wind hazel]

i forgot it's monthly reset FUCK ME AP

[little tree]

Lmao

[stark quiver]

i almost had a heart attack cuz i thought it was weekly reset

[polar lion]

Shud be Strength so yes frontline killer

[stark quiver]

[barren tapir]

i just hope for no 'youre out of date' message i have like 1k ap to go

[wanton dawn]

just got my 14-4 full clear! tysm:DDD

[stark quiver]

now do i really want helena to tank

[barren tapir]

whats this months harby?

[wind hazel]

new cruise pass, inb4 bug and require mandatory update in 5mins

[stark quiver]

strength
med armor

[barren tapir]

oh i see i am fucked cool

[polar lion]

Y not? Just 1 strike kill and u can put anyone to tank

[barren tapir]

actually probably not i have good ships now but scary

[little tree]

Eldrich jda will help surely for arbiter right ?

[barren tapir]

the bigger fuckery is newcastle CM

[nocturne glade]

For the medal shop, can I just get anyone if I already have the ones from samhearts list? (I could get tirpitz, but I have enough fleet tech for KMS already

[wind hazel]

eldridge yes, jda idk

[keen owl]

Napoli or Mogador?

[wind hazel]

for what

[keen owl]

For Opsi

[stark quiver]

mog looks better

[atomic abyss]

They do completely different things

One is a tank one is a DPS

[keen owl]

Whos Better tank for Opsi Mobs Napoli or Brest?

[stark quiver]

napoli ngl

[barren tapir]

saw someone get 22k vouchers in opsi, anyone know how that's possible lol, its obviously a fuckton of c1 but c1 for me always ended up being slightly voucher negative, so i dont understand it

[atomic abyss]

Napoli is flat out tankier period
The difference being you might as well use her for boss at that point

[wind hazel]

i got 12k for trying c1 this month (jan) ._. is that normal

[stark quiver]

not rly?

[sweet delta]

Ask urself

[wind hazel]

how would i know, it's my first time

[barren tapir]

from trophy room, absolutely insane

[polar lion]

Df I always averaged around 13k tho

[little tree]

I avg 5k

[barren tapir]

most distance i ever got was just over 100k, so they did nearly 3x as much as my best month so far LOL

[polar lion]

Maybe they dun buy stuffs from shop?

[wind hazel]

do they skip entire shop or something

[barren tapir]

no they absolutely do

[polar lion]

And they dun use any of the coords

[barren tapir]

check the currencies, that's about normal. what isnt is energy storage, which comes from c1 spamming

[keen owl]

Have i placed them Properly?

[barren tapir]

also they clearly used all their coords

i assume either great akashi luck or truly unholy levels of c1 -> c3 cycling, on the levels of 16hr/day

[sweet delta]

💀 they have 9x my distance and 2x my power

[keen owl]

Is FDG and UVH still good?

[barren tapir]

power has a more or less hardcap due to 999 adapt limit

[sweet delta]

Where does energy storage come from

[polar lion]

They hab too much time to play

[barren tapir]

map clears, including secureds. you build those up by c1 farm

[desert trellis]

yo i want to ask if the skin boxes in the prize shop restock if i bought the max no. of that specific box

[barren tapir]

for comparison this is me bc my fleets are weaker

[wanton dawn]

is it correct that 11-4 is the most oil xp place to farm, but the highest x-4 is preferred in farming due to it dropping cog chips?

[keen owl]

Wow how do you get so much

[late flame]

c1

[barren tapir]

i also assume they prolly buy special tokens in akashis at least some of the time for higher voucher efficiency

[little tree]

Is anyone able to update proto core command to include hiden gun

[barren tapir]

as u can see im about 1/4th their c1 grind level for this month. that is truly absurd. but its mostly me wondering if c1 truly leads to more vouchers cos it feels sus

[wind hazel]

no, 11-1 is best exp:oil, w12 and above drop cog chips, x-4 give higher coins

[keen owl]

Whats C1 is that the lowest Danger map?

[barren tapir]

like is c1 actually voucher positive

[late flame]

harrass sam when you see him

[wanton dawn]

so there is basically no reason to farm 11-4 right

[keen owl]

I casual OpSi so i dunno

[little tree]

~~ surly that means ping him ~~

[barren tapir]

hold on... okay so maybe i looked at it backwards, i assumed less vouchers this month cos i did more c1 but i actually did way less.

i have less vouchers this month killing harby than i did last month not killing harby welp. c1 must be positive then right?

[wind hazel]

unless you want to farm for Columbia, or you haven't beaten 12-1, yes

[late flame]

tbh i didnt bother once i realised its just opsi flexing (and it gets boring af)

[wanton dawn]

tysm

[late flame]

i just c5 to burn ap

[barren tapir]

i mean i dont get the boredom thing unless ur for some reason babysitting it constantly LOL

it's effectively an idle game for me and i'd assume for anyone who hardcores c1

[late flame]

i do opsi in between w12 faming runs

[barren tapir]

same 🤝

[sweet delta]

How much voucher profit if you claim all 360 stars in one month

[barren tapir]

how much voucher profit if you never complete opsi story

[wind hazel]

yes

[barren tapir]

tho that is a good point, last month i got a bunch of high-reward stars randomly

[nimble knoll]

Which one should I focus?

[elfin hollow]

Do I just buy coordinates

[elfin hollow]

Kazagumo!!

[wind hazel]

grab kaza, enterprise

[nimble knoll]

Which one first?

[crisp raven]

if you know you can defeat them, yes. the siren coords (abyssals) should be first because of the UR bp drop chance.

[nimble knoll]

I can only buy 1 after the moment, so Enty Or Kaza First?

[late flame]

depends on what you need

[keen sable]

i doubt they can use either one. barely scraping together a D1 fleet

[wind hazel]

📠

[storm heron]

those won't be immediately game changing since enty scales with equips and kaza scales with your CVs. Just pick whoever and raise them in dorm

[late flame]

tbh i'd get kaza if i havent claimed my rookie reward (of which enty/hood/sandy is a choice)

[nimble knoll]

I can beat d-4 on dc and I already did

[keen sable]

doesn't mean you can afford two more sr. while essex, intrepid and whole bunch of others have been sitting around

[nimble knoll]

True, I don't have a lot of sr bullins aswell

[elfin hollow]

I got Shangrila and Essex. Are they worth using? Too much bulins but almost zero SSR's

Also toss in Eugen because she's literally free

[dusk thunder]

I buy the 5k Oil item. Then I buy the Hidden Zone Data Logger. And I like to buy the 2x reward item cause I can never have enough of those. But thats just my take.

[keen sable]

most certainly not literally free

[elfin hollow]

I mean just wait out eight days and she's on the dock

But haven't used her since I'm using an ECGC fleet

[nimble knoll]

Should I focus OpSI or w8?

[runic cobalt]

Best fleet with hindenburg in it for opsi, i would appreciate it

[wind hazel]

go do opsi, your 200 ap is waiting and capping

[nimble knoll]

Only 58 at the moment

[wind hazel]

i forgot you're new

[dusk thunder]

Since were on the OpSi topic. The Record File Guide that was written like 3 years ago or w/e. Does that still hold true now? Having to clear out certain zones in a certain order to get them so I can get the stars and such for completion?

[nimble knoll]

I just got OpSI like, a few hours ago, and I used most of my AP.

[elfin hollow]

How cooked am I if I started doing OpSi but my ships aren't retroed yet?

Unigoat is my concern

[keen sable]

no reset for you

[wind hazel]

better start early than latter

[dusk thunder]

Just get the story for OpSi done. Cause after that you can start doing the monthly reset and such. And start farming that sweet sweet UR gear.

[nimble knoll]

When can I start farming for flapjack?

[stark quiver]

is there a ops map of all the zones that give ap boxes

[keen sable]

it's not very enjoyable imo without healing

[bright tusk]

Tried to swap for better gear but still can't one shot taiho meta without helena

[wind hazel]

got z52?

[bright tusk]

Yes

[nimble knoll]

?

[runic cobalt]

Any team suggestions please

[keen sable]

flapjack. such a low standard

[wind hazel]

give this a try

[storm heron]

you don't "farm for flapjack", you "grind opsi"

[wind hazel]

0 CV rld

[dusk thunder]

You need to get to the point where you can start getting T2 Ordnance Testing Reports. And you need 6 of those plus other items. So you just gotta keep doing OpSi and building up a stockpile

[wind hazel]

just put her on mob

[runic cobalt]

Isn't her skills more boss focused?

[wind hazel]

she isn't a top picks for boss fleets, unfortunately

[storm heron]

you can put her for light/med armor bosses too I guess

[runic cobalt]

Got it then thanks

[elfin hollow]

Yeah thought so. I'm just short of gold BP's but otherwise I'm following every Advice down to the letter ⚓

[dusk thunder]

Yall reminded me I need to sit down and restructure my OpSi fleets. Been using the same ones for like.... years now. The last new UR I slotted into an OpSi fleet was Unzen lmao.

[wind hazel]

no need to fix what's not broken

[mild sail]

I slot the most possible UR with crossfleet barrage in

Should help auto faster with a zillion barrage flying in

[left cedar]

since i use 2 fleets mostly cuz of Harby, Arby and Abyss 6 ... 2 of my fleets are waifu ... and i rotate that per month

[sharp socket]

if your mob is good enough it kills things before crossfleet comes in

[left cedar]

rare exceptions to that are Stronghold Boss, and Abyss C4 and C5

[cobalt gate]

so is this good? fleet 2 is just for cross fleet

any other cross fleet i should add?

[left cedar]

i would slot Helena for BBs and Sirius for CVs
but if that works, work ...

[mild sail]

What is fleet 1 have

[left cedar]

mob, cuz no healer there

[jaunty blaze]

Why don't work cruise mission mission? My don't work

[cobalt gate]

nothing much just ships with unicorn

[wind hazel]

junyou repulse are certainly an interesting choice

[left cedar]

ok, that surprise me a bit
Juny and Repulse ...
others i guess is lvling

[mild sail]

1 is boss
2 is mob, 3 is backup
4 is whatever rainbow

[wind hazel]

yours needs fixing

[mild sail]

Nah it works

[wind hazel]

ok 👍🏼

[cobalt gate]

i kinda ran out of backrow to lvl to 120 so basically lvling stuff from 120 to 125 starting from the bad ships

[mild sail]

🤝

[sharp socket]

it works but it looks weird

[cobalt gate]

any important cross fleet i'm missing that i should use instead?

[wind hazel]

mine seem to be working fine. try restart your game, or repair asset

[sharp socket]

meh dont worry too much about it

[mild sail]

Crossfleet is just kind of a QoL fix, you don't necessarily need it, your mobbing need to be able to kill things by themselves

[jaunty blaze]

Okay

[mild sail]

But you will find it cool to have

[cobalt gate]

well anything would help mob fleet since its basically nothing

[wind hazel]

switching out junyou and repulse would help more

[cobalt gate]

btw ulrich works for vanguard right or just main fleet

[mild sail]

Try uhhh, putting better ships in dorm to lv them up

[cobalt gate]

well i don't have the chips... so dorm doesn't work

[mild sail]

Not even lv120 or lv110 ships?

[cobalt gate]

well none for backrow

i have 120 but would need to limit break them for them to get exp from dorm

[sharp socket]

have you tried using rainbows + unicorn

[cobalt gate]

i mean i do for chapter 15

[mild sail]

Switch Plymouth to your mob fleet

[mild sail]

Or heck, just use other fleet that isn't the 1st one

[sharp socket]

if you can fleetbuild and gear for w15 surely you can do it for opsi aswell

[barren tapir]

opsi is easy you can use pretty much anything for most of it

[mild sail]

Idk man, he said he have problems with mobbing

[barren tapir]

[cobalt gate]

?

[mild sail]

.

[cobalt gate]

i meant as want good cross fleet to make it efficent

[barren tapir]

look fine to me honestly

[cobalt gate]

ok then

[barren tapir]

like if ur gonna use junyou and repulse then...whatever right, i dont see any particularly significant crossfleet missing? maybe rumeys if that counts as significant

[cobalt gate]

does she?

i mean i can go rumey instead of von

[barren tapir]

idk its rockets so good vs light/med

[cobalt gate]

oh is it? guess i can take out von, i don't think her cross fleet does too much anyway

[wind hazel]

instead of removing another UR, just remove your junyou or repulse

[barren tapir]

[cobalt gate]

i mean they will be gone in time anyway

[wind hazel]

huh

[fickle hollow]

good enough for now?

[wind hazel]

mlb her, enhance the gear, yeah

[jaunty vault]

you special touched her didn't you

[barren tapir]

weird ahh aa gun

[storm heron]

lmao

[barren tapir]

i dont recognize any aa gun besides bofors roomba sexy UR staag and fp

[fickle hollow]

i saw this and put these one's

[cobalt gate]

how accuract is the community tier list?

[barren tapir]

i follow CN and just roomba everything tbh

[fickle hollow]

can u link it

[barren tapir]

idk a link i just know they default to roomba

[fickle hollow]

no

[wind hazel]

AA isn't a concern most of the time, just use whatever. when it matters, that's when your AA gun will require more specific loadout

and i doubt you are bringing a 2LB kazagumo into where AA will matter

[fickle hollow]

i just got her today from medal shop mlb soon

[crisp estuary]

We 2019 bois
Roll it back

[bright tusk]

I did it,
Thank you very much!

[crisp estuary]

[bright nymph]

why my shop can only exchange one classified files mission logger

before can exchange 8 of them

[sinful escarp]

you completed the others already

[cobalt gate]

haven't built a single vt plane are they that important

[sinful escarp]

they are a one time use thing

[bright nymph]

oh well

[cobalt gate]

so we get 1 every month after completion?

[wind hazel]

just for timing adjustments

[barren tapir]

no they are one time only

[cobalt gate]

oh so i guess i finished it

[nimble knoll]

What prototype bps should I buy again?

[glacial widget]

Does Z52 slot into any of these fleets?

[hollow gust]

Shes a better choice than many of those vanguards

[glacial widget]

is she just a tank or does she specifically support a certain fleet type?

[nimble knoll]

???

[barren tapir]

pr3 for champyguns, probably

[nimble knoll]

Aighto

[zenith heron]

You could change that Laffey 2 as a suggestion, was gonna suggest exchanging Helena for her if boss fleet, but I am unsure if she is more consistent in buffs

[glacial widget]

really? I thought laff2 was still one of the best vanguards

[zenith heron]

Her durability is her most usefulness tbf, the other seems alright since her AA is good

[nimble knoll]

I should replace it right? (I can enhance it too)

[barren tapir]

you use champygun when fighting medium/heavy armor enemie

[nimble knoll]

Should I get Enty Or Kaza in the medal shop?

[barren tapir]

both

enty first

[nimble knoll]

I only have 80

[barren tapir]

you have a month

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[zenith heron]

your Backline to all fleets is so fine

your frontline needs some work

Mob Fleet: FDG (Musashi if you have Zwei on boss), Aquila, Unicorn, - Brest, Unzen, Hindenburg

CV Boss Fleet: Amagi CV, Shinano, Implacable, - Guam, Kazagumo, Eldridge (Sirius if you want Minmax cv Buffs)

BB Fleet: Musashi (Zwei if you have her), Alsace, Vanny, - Agir, Shimakaze (Either you sustain Helena or put z52 here), Plymouth

Flex Fleet (Medium I presume): Soyuz, Nyakhimov, Rumey: Laffey 2, Shimakaze (Eldridge Retro can be here if you changed her former position for Sirius), Mogador (put at middle if Eldridge, not if Shimakaze)

[glacial widget]

thank you, i have zwei so ill swap out fdg and move musashi. For the BB fleet are you saying shimakaze is best, or Z52 is?

[desert trellis]

i want to ask if the skin box wd restock if its sold out

[zenith heron]

since you have both Plymouth and Helena there are multpile choices,

1. You can stay it like that as before, but don't have as much Vanguard damage
2. Shimakaze replaces Helena
3. Z52 replaces Helena / Shimakaze
4. Its Either you use Plymouth or Helena only, if you picked Shimakaze or Z52 at middle

[glacial widget]

also should amagi cv be flagship instead of implacable?

[zenith heron]

Amagi should be at middle yes, and not Impla or Shinano, since Shinano's barrage is negligent damage...

[rapid grail]

wait, iron, i recognize that guy

[glacial widget]

ok gotcha, makes sense

[zenith heron]

also make sure your Zwei is on perfect condition, like maxed Lvl 125, MLB, and maxed Skills

[glacial widget]

yea she is, I have my dock posted in this thread: https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1335050049624735806

[zenith heron]

If I am not wrong, the strongest ship should be at Flagship postion due to probably buffing Cross Fleet barrages, but take it with a grain of salt...

[glacial widget]

haha i gotcha, thank you, I appreciate the help

[wind hazel]

off flag your amagi

[glacial widget]

whats the reason?

[shell willow]

Increases this ship's DMG dealt to the enemy the further away they are from her (up to 8% (18%) more DMG).

[wind hazel]

^2nd skill

[zenith heron]

forgor about this, mb

[alpine condor]

what's the link for which ships to lmb for tech points

specifically iron blood and eagle union

[carmine heath]

what do the classified file loggers do? Give you a guaranteed special file for a zone?

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

EU isn't there, but EU HMS and SE shouldn't be hard

[wanton dawn]

is this gd enough to beat w15?

[wind hazel]

on auto? most likely not

[wanton dawn]

can i open a thread and see if i have better ships / gear?

[wind hazel]

give /w15 a read first

most things are explained there

[wanton dawn]

yea i read the guides and i need aa and antisubs right

[wind hazel]

yeah, your boss fleet vanguard's AA is almost non existent

mob AA gun are a bit underwhelming too

[wanton dawn]

oh i thought that mob is like way more important than boss so i didnt pay muhc attention

[wind hazel]

and sandy torp... idk why that is there. and unzen gun, a lot of stuff are pretty sus on a glance

did you scrap your hedgehog?

[wanton dawn]

oh right yea accidentally 😬

so it is mainly abt the gear right

[wind hazel]

yeah mostly. well boss vanguard most likely need fiddling as well

[wanton dawn]

yea tbh i rly dont know whats going on😭

[carmine heath]

Does sandy retro do anything besides give you the option to give her the retro skill

[wind hazel]

you guys still havent gotten eldridge retro right?

[wanton dawn]

we shld be getting her real soon

[wind hazel]

then probably wait for her retro. she can probably fix your missing hedgehog

[wanton dawn]

oh i have my headgehog at lvl 13 i just forgot to put in in the team here

[wind hazel]

[wanton dawn]

so i shld prob work towards a Twin 57mm Bofors?

[wind hazel]

if you can, yeah

fdg's aux gun want to be changed too

plygun>137>155kai, i think? 155

[wanton dawn]

i can craft a 137🫡 not enought o buy plygun yet

anchorage swapping with laffey 2, then eldridge retro swap with laffey 2?

[wind hazel]

maybe open thread, lemme see what else you got

[wanton dawn]

ok tysm🙏

w-15 help

[alpine condor]

okok tysmmm

[fickle hollow]

is this worth +13?

[wind hazel]

kinda 50-50

[fickle hollow]

[undone plover]

I think daisen gun (pr7 BB gun) is the go to option now for musashi AP
I am not a musashi expert tho

[bright tusk]

Is the SAP gun even have very high dps against medium armor, its only good for Zara while bad for others?

[molten zinc]

if you decide to use Musashi against medium armor boss sure but usually you not gonna use her outside of heavy armor

[whole crypt]

what does that have to do with medium armour

daisen gun is better in cases where you want to 4-round and would need a loader for izumo gun

[carmine heath]

You can leave strongholds to do other maps right?

What's a good gear lab gun to put on sandy, 155 kai?

[wind hazel]

dd gun, twin 100

[hushed dawn]

What auxes do y'all run on Z52?

[tame jungle]

i have low dd reload, so i run autoloader+toolbox usually

(with blue main gun)

[wispy cove]

[hushed dawn]

Is this alright?

[tame jungle]

torp z52

[alpine condor]

where does one obtain good gear

[hushed dawn]

OpSi, Research, and sometimes UR events.

[wanton dawn]

do u guys use opsi vouchers to buy Tuning Samples

[tame jungle]

z52 mostly scales on her FP stat (most importantly her insane barrage) so i'd replace oxytorp with survivability or go full in on the memes and get reload down to 0.50 on the main gun by using autoloader and/or blue gun

[hushed dawn]

Ahhhh. Aight, well, I like memes, so we're going for the other route.

[frank trout]

New player here : Should I put my better AA on vanguard or main ?

[wispy cove]

May help

[hushed dawn]

Okay that is indeed very helpful.

[wispy cove]

BTW This is translated from Mandarin, so there may be some translation errors.
But the degree of confusion is not so great as to cause confusion in understanding.

[hushed dawn]

I understood little in Recommended Reason.
That being said, I came up with this:

[wispy cove]

Hmmm

[sinful escarp]

imo i would switch out that autoloader for something like a toolbox

[wispy cove]

Yeah

[tame jungle]

does this account for your tech nitro?

[hushed dawn]

My DD RLD Tech is only at +3. 😭

[wispy cove]

[hushed dawn]

But since the guide mentioned something about the single 113mm gun being better at 296+ RLD, I figured I could reach that threshold with Goldburn and Autoloader. Though of course I could just go with 76mm and Goldburn with Toolkit.

[tame jungle]

goldburn autoloader is probably fine if you make that 0.50 breakpoint

z52 has selfheal anyway so toolbox kinda has diminishing returns

[wispy cove]

For this
This is to ensure that the ship's HP is sufficient and to increase the damage.

-# But if it is z52, you don't have to worry too much though.

[hushed dawn]

Figured the toolkit is a bit much yeah. Goldburn (+13) has 640 HP which is plenty enough, I would think. Plus I'm gonna sandwich her in between Agir and Hindenburg.

[tame jungle]

god i wish that were me

[wispy cove]

[hushed dawn]

I want to be sandwiched too.

[zenith heron]

Is this currently an ok Fleet Comp for OpSi? Considering no Aquila yet while Rumey, Z52, Brest, and Plymouth stuck due to them not on Dev30/MLB

Any thoughts to change (aside from meowfficers, which I haven't had luck yet)

[wispy cove]

Could this be: DD protect large cruisers.

For Plymouth
I think Dev 25 is enough!

[tame jungle]

i disagree

[zenith heron]

Dev 23 won't be enough, so does a dev 21 Brest won't do (Currently Building Harbin)

[wispy cove]

But only "available"
Of course the higher the better.

[zenith heron]

How bout the Kearsarge comp? Have anything to advice other than no 100% Freeze?

[wispy cove]

[dawn ledge]

how to scrap a gear pls

[rain vine]

click on the gear in your depot and press the big disassemble button at the bottom

[dawn ledge]

thanks

[zenith heron]

I this month's Challenge Mode, is CV still the best way to kill NewCastle of with its ships easily?

Or would it be the BBs? Considering I have no good Plymouth yet

[rapid grail]

i don't get why people want to shoehorn single 113m for the extra firerate tech when single 76mm exists
and in pve the less range is negligible most of the time; yes you lose quite the fp

firerate tech on top, bossing on middle, late campaign on bottom. 0 dd rld tech

[hushed dawn]

Is there a specific reason why RPG Interface is chosen?

[obsidian ivy]

Is the reload thing a significant dmg increase or something

[rapid grail]

1/3 of the effects are impactful enough for bossing if you are into it (middle loadout)
and in campaign, all 3 are aight, the healing one is alright ig; barrage is decent and the buff one is pretty good (bottom loadout)

[hushed dawn]

Alrighty then.

[rapid grail]

if you can pull the top loadout w/ 113mm instead (which requires oath, max rld tech and those +rld auxes) then the damage is a slight increase, from what i understand
and ofc you can try that with your own research and testing; honestly i don't see much of the point in these shenanigans, aside from what it seems to be some interaction with the spaghetti code this game has

[mild sail]

Do I need another DD or this will auto 14-4 mob just fine?

[wind hazel]

can probably swap out anchorage for a dps for faster clear lol

[turbid marsh]

14-4 is not strong to let someone like anchorage to be here to tank damage

[mild sail]

Yeah I just auto 13-4 few mins ago so Anchorage is there

[fickle hollow]

Does Agir-Kazagumo-Sirius work for bossing
Shinano-Amagi-Flex

[turbid marsh]

yeah should be fine tbh, sirius kazagumo might die but should be fine

[rapid grail]

if the fleet has Implacable or August von Parseval, don't use Aegir. Aegir works better on BB bossing fleets
I would recommend Eldridge Retrofit or Z52 on her place and Ark Royal/FS5 AvP for the flex slot on the backline

[woven star]

Finally 14-3 for 3* that was harder what I expected. Need better boss fleet and amagy cv mlb

[fickle hollow]

does The placement of Vangaurd also determine whose torps are fired 1st?

[rapid grail]

what boss fleet you used? maybe that may need some recs

[woven star]

Shinano-NJ-Unicorne->Ancho-Helena-Eldridge. Low dps, no rainbow aircrafts

[rapid grail]

Yes, the order is tank -> sandwich -> offtank.
Lets say you want to run Anchorage, Shimakaze and Ibuki. Ancho's torps go first, Shima's two preloads next and finally Ibuki's two preloads afterwards.

[turbid marsh]

why are you using unicorn and helena?

[woven star]

Low dps. Haven't better. Fleets die fast

[rapid grail]

hmm, can try out Independence Retrofit instead of Unicorn; keep the other 2 backliners
Helena is pretty bad in late campaign; long gone is her place for content that demands desyncing your main sources of damage. Ancho Shima Aegir was the original rec I used to beat all of w14 bossing; other options exist nowadays. Though I'd like to see your dock to see other options you may have

[fickle hollow]

Against Taihou meta i am currently using
Amagi-Musashi(flag)-Shinano
Agir-Z52 -Watarase

On Shinano i use JU87-Helldiver-Saiun Kai but when Air strike is launched The boss Keeps moving
Today i placed Agir at The 3rd position and Used Vit2(Pr7) instead of Saiun Kai on shinano and surprisingly i hit 1mil mark for the 1st time today but my Z52 was not able to survive till the end (lv 120 rn ) so i was thinking should i use a slower torp on Agir (23~24 sec) or should i just leave it as it is rn.

[woven star]

Thx I try. I swap Helena for SanDiego but loose it very fast. So back for Helena

[turbid marsh]

wait what? you loose sandy kai ue fast with anchorage and eld?

[rapid grail]

well sandy isn't that particularly good at dealing damage to the mob waves that spawn before the boss. shima is better in this regard, as her torps allow her to send free tickets to atlantis for particularly loyal fans burst nearly every mob the torps come in contact to.

[woven star]

I have good backing but bad front. Helena buffs

[woven star]

Shima not mlb. Agir same 100 level and not full

Btw Kawakaze is good?

Don't have. But according to skill more likely then Shimakaze

[turbid marsh]

might as well just thread and post dock at this point XD

[keen comet]

Guys, is this cannon good?

because I was able to get his Blueprints to build

[rapid grail]

hell yea it does kick ass. great against heavy and medium armor

[mild sail]

So I removed Anchorage
Replace Sandy with Shima

[turbid marsh]

can you send a screenshot of the vanguards you have? but tbh should work

[mild sail]

Just assumed that I have a lot

No Unzen

It is faster to show what I don't have

[turbid marsh]

last time i trusted assumption , i got betrayed XD

[inner delta]

dont run kear on 14

[fickle hollow]

[barren tapir]

sandy should smoke helena

[inner delta]

if you made it work then sure but shes one of the worse bb for 14

her secondary for ram ship is terrible

[barren tapir]

if shes dying give her a torp bulge (+ rudder ofc) worked fine for me

[mild sail]

(non existent you mean)

[inner delta]

i mean she has, its just the basic one

[mild sail]

I calling it auto but I still need to turn on the lighthouse and calling sub support at the start of boss battle

Oh wait

I can just bring U522

[wanton dawn]

what does Time Fuze do for gear?

[inner delta]

its bad

it shot like a flak infront, but it really bad

[wanton dawn]

oh ok so i dont need to bother with it for any gear right

[inner delta]

yea

[wanton dawn]

tysm:)

[rapid grail]

Aegir and Brest need backliners, then frontliners for their CDC 1 & 2 respectively? It's been long ago since I originally got them on my main. Currently playing JP alt

[eager mulch]

all CBs do

[dusky fiber]

The sentence in the notes: is this just cosmetics? I have never used it: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/More-y_Glory_Aura_Booster

[rapid grail]

Oh yea forgot about Azuma
ty regardless

[rapid grail]

generic 550/640 hp aux

[woven star]

yes. visible aura. nothing special

[dusky fiber]

Alright, thanks

[rapid grail]

Hype moments and aura

[eager mulch]

• 500 aura

[fickle hollow]

What is the armor type for this?

HVAR hellcat + Sky raider should be fine right?

[wind hazel]

maybe. BB is more preferred this time than CV

[fickle hollow]

My Musashi is the only BB that is fully built

[molten zinc]

how about your CV

[woven star]

so. Amagi-Shinano-Indep looks fine

[fickle hollow]

Should this do fine against Light?

[molten zinc]

AP gun bruh

[wind hazel]

just stick to your CV

[molten zinc]

and Musashi barrage do less dmg to light armor

[woven star]

kai for musashi for light

[molten zinc]

but given what you have give it a try ig

[woven star]

NJ gun?) hm

rly maybe better cv team

[soft raft]

That isnt a Japanese gun so no

[wind hazel]

he probably meant using the twin 410 on NJ

[woven star]

no I'm not about jap gun. I just about what NJ have never seen like this

[wind hazel]

nvm...

[fickle hollow]

Can i do Musashi-Shinano-Amagi ?against EX stage

[molten zinc]

havent tested myself but whatever

[woven star]

barrage NJ as what I saw

[wind hazel]

i can try

[fickle hollow]

Should i craft this then?

[jaunty vault]

if you can

[fickle hollow]

[jaunty vault]

its only slightly better than its predecessor

[woven star]

and maybe fire control instead of type 1

[wind hazel]

what other vanguard you have? i dont wanna awaken my watarase just for testing

fuck it let's go sandy

[fickle hollow]

Working on Kazagumo and Sirius rn ,Agir MLB in around 2 days(dev 29)

[molten zinc]

I'll be back in like 10 minutes

[wind hazel]

nvm your vanguard is very different lol

[woven star]

btw show Watarase gear. She deal low damage. imho should be better

[wind hazel]

not looking too good

i mean the musashi fleet

[fickle hollow]

what should i change?Main gun

[woven star]

Try this

nvm about AA

[molten zinc]

eh 6:00 and still have like 70 bar I don't think this fleet can clear Hard

[fickle hollow]

I dont have that gear

[forest palm]

random ah ass stop sign

[fickle hollow]

Easy mode?

[wind hazel]

seem doable with sandy

but i forgor to put toolkit and my ply is dead now

[woven star]

she's need better gun and if you put her in middle can focus on trp aux boost (glass cannon)

[molten zinc]

easy and normal is possible for sure

[wind hazel]

💀

[fickle hollow]

fine or should i use saiun instead of Vit 2

[wind hazel]

i guess eldridge does nothing there, need more vanguard dps

[woven star]

@fickle hollowI'll better make Z52 (tank) - Watarase- and waht you have less... make retro Helena she good vs bosses for buffing backline dps and front

[wind hazel]

do the tbs connect with eldridge slow?

[forest palm]

if that's meant to sync, Shinano is way too slow

[fickle hollow]

i want them to hit right after Agir Torp is fired

[molten zinc]

lemme see how well this does

[forest palm]

ya you can forget about doing that

Agir's Torps are not worth sync'ing

[woven star]

hard to sync imho... CV + fast gun Musi

[wind hazel]

this can bruteforce for sure

[languid skiff]

hey guys new player here i just unlocked research and shipyard, anywhere i can watch or read about this, i cant figure it out i tried x"D

[fickle hollow]

i will try

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[languid skiff]

tyvm

[forest palm]

this is such a questionable comp

[wind hazel]

it's his best

except maybe agir..........

[fickle hollow]

At begining i just built the ships i liked now i am moving a little over to team building and meta

[woven star]

do you have Triple 155mm? cl gun for watarase

this is almost standard second gun for BB

[wind hazel]

it's ass, but it works... kinda >_> but your vanguard is far from mine

[fickle hollow]

[wind hazel]

well yeah easy and normal are easy pass

[fickle hollow]

nope

[woven star]

#gameplay-help message em? you can just swap it with wata and put something for stats FP on Musi

[molten zinc]

yeah even without +13 they can brute force hard no problem

should be faster if I reroll Helena scan instead of using Elridge

[fickle hollow]

This should be fine on musashi?

[rapid grail]

yes

[sharp socket]

are the inherent bonuses always fixed at certain amount at lv30

[woven star]

Just to say. I mean your Musashi second cl gun to put on Watarase for better her dps. And yes this gun fine for bb gun slot for Musashi but I prefer this second upgrade kai

[soft raft]

Base 155 sucks ass as a CL Main gun tho

Mainly due to the bullet pattern

[woven star]

Same I don't like it but he hasn't another. Only purple version

About Musashi gun more like this gun for barrage

[fickle hollow]

i just used this to make the current gold one today

[molten zinc]

[woven star]

Has better dps and slower which better to sync with other backlines

[woven star]

NOOO, NO BEE GUN

forget about bee gun

[wind hazel]

he crafted the izumo gun

[woven star]

Ah OK then

[fickle hollow]

did i do anything wrong?

[soft raft]

he thought you made the Gold Twin 410

[ivory pawn]

You're fine. Izumo's a good anti-heavy/medium gun for Musashi.

Only real competition for it is the Daisen gun, which can be a fair bit more difficult to get.

[keen sable]

good is an understatement

[fickle hollow]

[wind hazel]

it's the best

best*

[soft raft]

It's the best Musashi has to work with due to her IJN Gun restriction

[nimble knoll]

Are Hvars gud for OpSI?

[wind hazel]

for light boss yes

[keen sable]

single target boss. but aren't you poor? can't be too picky

[wind hazel]

💀

[nimble knoll]

Yeh, only 1 Hvar at the moment

[keen sable]

no as in like you only have 4 fighters including the hvar...

[forest palm]

Plymouth tank should be fine for most Arbiter fighters, right?

[molten zinc]

[eager mulch]

[keen sable]

don't think way too much about fighters. fighters don't do that much and aren't that important for a long time especially when you have a hvar. skyraider, dive bombers, and torpedo bombers are where your boss killing is going to come from

[nimble knoll]

Does using HELP's 2x the Xp as well or nah?

[wanton dawn]

when u clear everything in op si, what maps should u loop?

[keen sable]

5 3 or 1

[wanton dawn]

wldnt u want to keep trying to get more loot from meow?

[wanton dawn]

what does 3 or 1 do..?

[keen sable]

i clear like 5 maps on day 1 so good for you

[dusky fiber]

3 same rewards as 5

[wanton dawn]

oh so looping 3 is ideal right

[fickle hollow]

i crafted one

[keen sable]

really bad. people told you not to do it?

[dusky fiber]

Depends on what you aim for. Just get rid of AP efficiently yes, Commander EXP it depends, Just doing something because you are bored and have nothing to do then c1

[keen sable]

do what makes you happy. you clearly play a lot if you cleared ops already

[wanton dawn]

oh i just cleared arbiter.... just asking in advance haha

[fickle hollow]

i was told to use triple 155 as main gun instead of purple gun

[wanton dawn]

what if im trying to get rainbow prints from meow

[woven star]

Better swap what you have on Musashi. But it's OK. You have another cl gun for next bb

[keen sable]

apparently voltic did which is a horrible idea. just use the tbtsk if you can't make anything actually better

[fickle hollow]

Ok

[dusky fiber]

c3 and c5 give the same rewards on average, c4 and c6 are just more expensive. c3 refreshes the map more often, so you might get more Akashis, which results in more AP boxes you can buy from her. If you have nothing else to do might es well do c1. You don't directly get cat node rewards but on average you get enough akashi's / enough AP back so you actually gain AP. Which then results in more c3/c5 runs. Just do what suits your time/ playing style the best

[wanton dawn]

ok so what im getting at is if i just want more rainbow prints from cat, c3 is the best right? c3-6 rewards are same

[dusky fiber]

If you just want to burn your AP yes

[wanton dawn]

but for max efficiecny i shld also mix in c1

[dusky fiber]

not c3-6 what

[wanton dawn]

wait coz u said c3 and c5 are the same and c4 and 6 are more expensive, so c3 to 6 are the same?

[keen sable]

~~don't? c5 would burn faster ~~

[dusky fiber]

c4 gives the same as c3 while costing more AP, same goes for c6 and c5

[dusky fiber]

Stronger enemies, maybe not

[wanton dawn]

oh so since per ap c3 and 5 are the same, i shld go for c5, so it is faster

while c1 can generate more ap

[keen sable]

you should do what you want...

[soft raft]

swap back to the purple gun
the regular 155's bullet patter makes it dogshit as a CL Main gun

[dusky fiber]

Either is fine if you just want to burn your ap, I do c5 for the Commander exp

[wanton dawn]

i want to get more prints lol😭

got it tyty

[lavish yacht]

Can a lv 125 ship contribute exp to combat data collection?

[eager mulch]

YES

[storm heron]

can a maxed player just start buying catboxes?

[forest palm]

uh...I buy Catboxes, sell purple bulins, and unload my dock when it's full because I have nothing left to enhance most of the time

sometimes I burn gold bulins when they clutter too much

it's really just true end game player shit

[stark quiver]

What’s a maxed player

[weary gust]

Max fleet tech and all ships.

[robust moth]

Maxing fleet tech takes a good while.

[mild sail]

Fuck catbox

[stark quiver]

I got my 40 rld cats and just left

[novel solstice]

I bought a bunch of catboxes long before I was maxed (I've still got about a hundred ships that aren't at 120). Maxing tech takes forever, and you have infinite coins from all the 12-1 runs to level things, so why not try to find the perfect cat?

[mild sail]

Oh hey just in time

[forest palm]

I have like 3 dummy cats to dump coin in, and I buy the 14 boxes also to keep coins down

it's tilting to hit 600k coin, and the game just gives you the unignorable question

[mild sail]

I have 43 cats in this 40 cattery

I not gonna even bother to fix it

[stark quiver]

After 2nd la9. shld I get a third or go pr5 and get more plyguns

[forest palm]

do you feel you need more Quad 152s?

[stark quiver]

My bbs look bare

I mean, I don’t really have a need for either

[keen sable]

Beats wasting merchant

[eternal basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845349843731873792/1335282642358112286/006ixwxngy1hy4vxocqwhj314a0juh4h.png?ex=679f9a5e&is=679e48de&hm=9a3c5c392def7f2679ee6fc316e85a439cb11d1719f10a13fb516f30f8a6ecc4&

[forest palm]

forgot how goofy CN censorship is sometimes

we've known about Op Convergence for a while

[eternal basalt]

Date though, confirmed 6th

[forest palm]

that was also soft confirmed with, "next maint"

[boreal wagon]

if you assume next maint meants after x event sure

but events don't have to always end with a maint

[forest palm]

it's the way they've continually written their patch notes

[boreal wagon]

we have had cases where next maint did in fact not mean what you are describing

[versed sentinel]

yo what UR gear should i craft next? second NJ gun maybe?

[eternal moth]

Another tenrai

[eternal basalt]

Don't. Its in gear lab soon

[hollow gust]

wdym by craft? Research?

[versed sentinel]

oh i meant from gear lab mb

[eternal basalt]

Then Tenrai the 20th

[eternal moth]

Why the 20th?

[hollow gust]

thats when it comes out lol

[eternal basalt]

Cause then it's released

[eternal moth]

Where was that mentioned?

[eternal basalt]

^ @eternal moth

[woven star]

made some test of CL gun for challenge mode for Watarase. took a while

[eternal moth]

Oh, they actually gave a date. Huh.

[viscid swift]

yeah CN was malding so much they gave a date

[eternal moth]

That sounds on-brand

[eternal basalt]

Though wonder what 13rd gives with gearlab confirmed 20

[eternal moth]

CtA probably

[soft raft]

wouldnt be surpised if it's a dead week
then CTA on the 20th and UR Event on the 27th

tho CTA on 13th wouldnt be too surprising either

[eternal moth]

Yeah, either one is possible.

[thin nova]

is this gun good?

ok

[eternal basalt]

Last year started 29 feb so expect 27 this year

[thin nova]

but I have nothing else so I will take it anyway

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but didn't CNY start a lot later last year?

[soft raft]

Hell fucking no

[eternal moth]

Those are terrible researches

[soft raft]

do that marco Polo instead

[thin nova]

eh, I dont need her

[novel solstice]

I'd also suggest the Marco Polo. Worst case you'll eventually turn the BPs into currency.

[thin nova]

at least that gold one fast

[soft raft]

doesnt matter
that one's lauges better than literally all the other ones there

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[ivory pawn]

I assume Refresh isn't an option.

[thin nova]

spent

ok then

[ivory pawn]

Figured. Unless you're really, really strapped for coin I'd recommend Marco too.

[thin nova]

are you fking kidding me

[eternal moth]

Even if you dont need the ship, getting enough prints for them removes their face research from the queue, meaning you're more likely to get the ones you want

[eternal basalt]

Why do PR IV research though, you can coin them

[thin nova]

for gear

[dusky fiber]

E is scrap gear right?

[thin nova]

I'm trying taking some plane

[eternal basalt]

You can craft them the 20th

[bleak mica]

I still spam IV researches for more Tenrai

[thin nova]

I mostly take the gear research, barely touch any blue print one

[eternal basalt]

Depends how many you got

[thin nova]

unless I have no choice or it's Aegir

[bleak mica]

I want like 20 🙂

[eternal basalt]

Not worth it

[thin nova]

It takes me forever to get the rainbow plane

[bleak mica]

this is personally one of the reasons why

[tulip zenith]

dude has a couple plane plates

[thin nova]

I wonder when Nakimov skin reruns

I like that skin so much but I missed the chance to buy it

[eternal moth]

2 years

Unless they decide to add it to something like Black Friday sale in November

[eternal basalt]

They will

[eternal basalt]

You don't get those from research

[bleak mica]

no, I meant I need more rainbow planes to use the plates

[eternal basalt]

Use gear lab

[dusky fiber]

He wants to upgrade them to get more fleet power lmao

[bleak mica]

out of resources too

[thin nova]

well, I guess it's fine, I think I may have enough tech point by then

[eternal moth]

You don't have to own a ship to buy the skin

[thin nova]

have played since collab

so those rare factions are a little bit pain in the ass

[thin nova]

I know, but It better to buy and can use right

[eternal moth]

That's entirely up to you.

[bleak mica]

if it were me I would have considered whether waiting for a few months till getting the shipgirl, or at least a year to use the skin

[keen sable]

They have much lower requirements than main factions

[thin nova]

well, I wanted to get the skin first, but I miss the chance, knowing the skin will be back soon enough is a good sign, the time is quite good for me to get the ship girl as well, no complain, I just need to hold not being greedy

well, unless they release a skin that I want more

[white agate]

remember to not touch the scrap a gear researches btw, they are bad, same for the commission ones

you can do |research in #bot-spam using /

[sweet delta]

Scrap gear is good

[white agate]

wait, maybe i misremember, lemme recheck the jp

[thin nova]

I barely touch any tech box or scrap gear, except 2 gold plane from research IV

[sweet delta]

tech box research sucks

[thin nova]

actually

I do take scrap gear often

I remember they are quite quick

[white agate]

yep, i misremembered, it was the tech boxes one, scrapping gears for the 2h purple one was good, for the 2h blue one it's nearly comparable to pr/dr 2.5h

[final heart]

is CA+DD+CL the bread and butter combination for vanguard?
if so, can I change CL for something else?

[sweet delta]

no and yes

[white agate]

there is no such combination, you use the ship you need with acceptable personal abilities and synergy

[eager mulch]

Good ship + good ship + good ship is a better combination imo

[thin nova]

arent there some DD tankier than CA?

[eager mulch]

hull types don’t mean much is what im trying to say

[thin nova]

my Z52 at 5* can tank chap 13 no problem

[sweet delta]

according to mebot, the untankiest non-bulin is a CA

[thin nova]

well, I just did 13-2, so ...

[chrome fiber]

Has it always been this much? Or is it just this time or new update? Anyway any suggestions

[thin nova]

13-3 is too hard

[final heart]

with portland, starter dd and helena out of the picture, who can I replace in duisburg's spot in this team?

[eternal basalt]

80 medals? Yes

[chrome fiber]

I got around 2k

[sweet delta]

Kazagumo is one of the best ships for CV boss fleets later in the game. Shoukaku/Zuikaku give IJN tech points

[thin nova]

eh, I think duisburg is ok, I'm using her rn, she does decent dmg and pretty tanky too

I just leave her skill at 666

[eager mulch]

duisburg isn’t that good imo

[chrome fiber]

Alr!. I just came back and done all the event barely making with time. Is this the lunar event? Or is there more coming

[thin nova]

I know she's not good, but for newbie, I do think she's pretty much usable

[eternal basalt]

This is CNY yes

[eager mulch]

I don’t think shes good for newbies

[sweet delta]

I do think Duisburg is pretty good for new players

[chrome fiber]

have I missed a ur banner ?

[eager mulch]

it really depends on what else they have but im not making duisburg a priority

[sweet delta]

on average, you miss a UR banner twice every three months you don't play

[eternal basalt]

End this month, got Fritz?

[chrome fiber]

Noop

[thin nova]

who will be the next UR tho?

[eternal basalt]

Then you missed her and Z52

[final heart]

besides from those you see in the pic, the rest are purple rarity

[thin nova]

new or rerun?

[chrome fiber]

Rip. What's the next banner upcoming ?

[eternal basalt]

New

[thin nova]

well, I guess time to save

having 230 cubes rn, I might be ok

[chrome fiber]

Z52 was free right?

[white agate]

you needed to grind the currency, but yes

[chrome fiber]

[thin nova]

Z52 is very strong

[chrome fiber]

Welp

[thin nova]

I like her so much

[chrome fiber]

[sweet delta]

all new URs are very strong

[eternal basalt]

Mogador at launch

[chrome fiber]

Ig there's no important patches coming up next few patches then? Il just save cubes

[thin nova]

I thing I like about Z52 is she doesnt need good gear to be good

blue gun is all she need

[eternal basalt]

Blucher rerun, ? , gear lab updayte

[chrome fiber]

So there is?

[sweet delta]

what do you call important

[white agate]

either cta , new ur or rerun impla

[soft raft]

• Blucher rerun next week (Tho you can just use rerun tickets to do your daily light pull since it's a whatever banner)

• Gear Lab update on the 20th

• Highly likely to get the Call To Arms prelude to the event either on the 13th or 20th, with the New UR being the week after that

[eternal basalt]

You expect 2 reruns in a row?

[soft raft]

I doubt we'll get Implacable rerun before the new UR

At earliest the very moment the new UR ends

[white agate]

yep, that was mostly a random order, most likely scenario is cta, new ur, rerun impla

[mild sail]

It appeared that I missed Vanguard rerun so I only have 1 rainbow FC table

Damn

[white agate]

imagine missing both nj run and rerun

[eternal basalt]

NJ is perma soooo...

[white agate]

yeah, but i would have 2 ur guns

[eternal basalt]

Is in Gear Lab I've been told

[soft raft]

406 Mk7 in gear lab

[tame jungle]

NJ gun is in gear lab lmfao

[white agate]

i know, but it's not like i have that many resources to give to that gun

[tame jungle]

dreaded operation siren.....

[little tree]

Op si is painful without loggers

[white agate]

no, i mean; i got other ur's gear to build(for now i have only one mk7)

[tame jungle]

like what, 50 rainbow 100mms?

[white agate]

wyvern, spearfish and possibly tenrai still undecided on it(and then i think i will need at least 1nj gun)

[woven star]

is it chance we can get UR Missouri?

[soft raft]

spearfish

[woven star]

if we talk about NJ

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way for speculation

[mild sail]

Discuss future ships is not the purpose of this channel

Hello there moderator

[final heart]

is northampton 2 + fu shun + an shan better than northampton 2 + fu shun + duisburg?

[sweet delta]

you can afford another missile and another seal and another DDG retrofit?

[final heart]

oh right an shan ships are costly as hell

[dusk thunder]

Im a bit confused. Im working on getting all the Record Files for OpSi. Im working on the 3rd File (Tech and Life) and Ive cleared up to 3-5 (according to the image from the video posted years ago by Azur Lane Meta) and have not found a single one. I got the first one forever ago. But I cant seem to get the other ones. I know 2, 4, and 6 are only in safe zones and are RNG dependent. But 3, and 5 spawn in the danger zones (Im assuming thats the version of the zone that costs AP to enter cause Im not 100% on that) and Ive done them but did not get any Record Files spawning on the map in those ones. I am lost as to why they arent popping up. Doing the stages in order. So they should be popping up?

[mild sail]

The shop

[dusk thunder]

Fuck me fr?

[dusk thunder]

Damnit

Thatd do it for a few of them lmao. Ive got 2 of those left

[boreal wagon]

danger zone just means its the explorable version of the zone that you can only clear once per month

if it is tech and life that you are missing files in, they do not come from those classified loggers

[mild sail]

So when fate sim for DR 5 and 6 ships?

[hushed sorrel]

there are no teaser for future patches

[dusk thunder]

Well I needed to the Classifieds anyway. But either way. Ive not gotten them from 3-3 or 3-5 as I assume I should have since it was the first time I cleared them for the month. I started from 3-1 of course.

[boreal wagon]

you cannot get 3-5 if you dont have 3-4

[dusk thunder]

Oh shit

[boreal wagon]

you have to get them in order

[dusk thunder]

That makes sense. Im dumb as hell lmao

[boreal wagon]

this also means until you get 3-4 you shouldnt touch the zone for 3-5 at all, as the record file spawn check is when u enter the zone

granted this probably means u have to do it next month

[dusk thunder]

Yeah Ill probably have to do 3 next month. Thats not a big deal. Ill just do 4 then

Cause I cleared up to 3-5 already. So Ive absolutely killed my chances for the Tech and Life this month

[boreal wagon]

happens, just make sure to consult the map to do them in order

[dusk thunder]

Well maybe not? I did just do 3-2 and got the file for 3-2. Unless thats just how it is for the 2, 4, and 6 Files.

[boreal wagon]

even files u can get any time of the month since u can infinitely repeat secured zones

[dusk thunder]

Well Im still screwed for 3-3, 3-5

[boreal wagon]

its only explorables (odd ones) that u get one shot for (but they basically spawn 100% of the time if u meet the conditions)

[dusk thunder]

Oh well. I know better now lmao. Thank you kindly.

[night totem]

What are the first sr/ur gears I should get in gear lab?

[eternal basalt]

Wait for update the 20th

[eternal basalt]

When is fatesim for DR4 (Agir)

[night totem]

There are new gears coming?

I see

Still though, I don't have any double barrelled ap gun so I was concidering the twin 457...well i can't craft it right away anyways so

[worldly pewter]

wyvern then another wyvern
if u are locked with the designs get 2 ju 87 and some pancakes

[night totem]

Is ju 87 better than the ryuu?

[stark quiver]

timing sidegrade

[night totem]

I see

[bleak nymph]

How many times do you have to clear 12-4 for example to bring it from lethal to safe?

[stark quiver]

should be 10

[glacial widget]

could someone explain why fritz is better than enterprise in this fleet?