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[zenith heron]

everything on OpSi, nodes, Strongholds, Abyssal Fights, Arbiters, just doing OpSi could give you some amount of purple electronics as long as you have enough AP and if your fleet is strong enough to kill and sustain

[turbid dawn]

I was more interested on what the new best fleets for CH15 are nowadays since all the new releases of it being released

Because I'm presuming some1 like Fritz would be real good for it

[zenith heron]

I am unsure of Fritz, despite her good Fighter Mounts

but Z52, pretty much a great ship to use in World 15, unsure though what fleet either Mob or Boss

[fickle hollow]

My current fleet ,for bosses i swap unicorn with Musashi

Agir not MLB yet

Dev 27

[zenith heron]

yeah, bcs Unicorn is for mob fleet lol

Musashi is both mob and boss, so doable

also avoid practicing on using ships that are not MLB/ Dev 30 / maxed skills

always better to use them in their full potential

[wind hazel]

dev27 agir is basically good enough

she got her max bulk from 25, 30 is just more dmg

but dont you have any better dps vanguard, agir can be used on boss fleet

z52 should be able to main tank

shinano also kinda wasted on mob. and maybe amagi if your options are limited

surely you can put something like unicorn indep saratoga or fdg nelson hood somethingsomething

[fickle hollow]

i have not built them yet i am building Agir,Yorktown2,NJ rn (Indep retrofit done)

[turbid dawn]

Sushi in mob especially with Watarase is really good and works well in boss fights too if you use this gun

Having one preload with Unicorn, a >15s launch with Sushi then a normal CV or BB loadout is good as it spreads ou the dmg for mob waves

[steel lava]

Is it worth crafting t2 books into t3?

[jaunty vault]

really depends on what you value more

upcrafting gives you less exp per book

but more exp per time

[steel lava]

Ohh I see, Thank you

[elfin hollow]

Are there ultra rare daily missions in opsi

[thin nova]

this gun any good?

[zenith heron]

can Jervis be used in the Front most vanguard for a Grind fleet?

[frank pulsar]

yes

jervis is a tank

[zenith heron]

was doubting on her layered defenses via skills, but thanks

[quartz jungle]

She's pretty tanky, about ~110% of portland, better in mob battle because she heals vanguard for 5%

[bright tusk]

is sortie with ship that has 3.000.000 exp can still fill the exp for lecture hall?

[dusty gulch]

@bright tusk yeah

anyone remember when haku/agir coin up dropped?

[fickle hollow]

My 1st EX oneshot

[bright tusk]

about proficiency, if my fleet got 10.000 exp, then 22% of it (2.200 exp) will fill the lecture hall without cutting the original exp gained?

[whole crypt]

22% of the XP gained by MLB lv100+ ships will be added to proficiency, that amount is not cut from your ships

[cobalt rapids]

this update, 16th jan

[dusty gulch]

@cobalt rapids thanks!

[zenith heron]

I know I have been asking this for like the 3rd time already, but just to make clear,

Who is the best DDG that deals the most damage without any buffs from either Faction Fleets or Compositions? Basically just Solo

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[zenith heron]

Any advice though for Chang Chun? Did not see any recommendations for her...

[cobalt rapids]

only when u have multiple DE and NP ships to be buffed

[warm flax]

Has gear lab been updated the past month or no

[cobalt rapids]

will update on 20feb

[carmine heath]

Which is the better ddg to retro, fu shun or an shun?

[rapid grail]

all the DDGs have same gearing so copy those lol

mog gun > the other ur** dd gun > tash gun
sy-1a missile if you have it > sy-1 missile
option of staag (more hit/acc) or dido aa (more fp)
any aux gear mix of seal of the four gods + oxytorp/s, goldburn/max enhance autoloader; toolbox for campaign

[worldly pewter]

i think the ones that give random coord/logger and the 5 plates are on the lower side of popping u get maybe 3-5 per month

[white agate]

would be cool if they added in the 5k oil thing an autosistem for opsi dailies

[left cedar]

already have a auto system for Op.Si ...

u can auto, Hiddens or Secured or explorable maps full auto ...

[wary skiff]

How many quick finishers should I have stocked up for an event UR?

[plain saffron]

Didn't pay attention because if you do commissions you'll have more than you can use

[white agate]

quick finisher never ends so...

[soft raft]

as many as you can
tho honestly as long as you dont do dumb shit like spam the perma banners, you'll have way more quick finishers than you do cubes

[white agate]

yeah, i think the only thing you can do to finish the QF is spending all cubes in the light pool else it's impossible to finish them

[final heart]

I'm confused about this mission
am I supposed to get lv90 on every ship for 2 fleets?
because my ships are already averaging above 95

[ivory pawn]

Is each individual fleet averaging over 90?

[soft raft]

You calculated the average for all 12 ships combined
not the average for each individual fleet of 6 ships

[final heart]

oh damn

welp guess I'll go back to my corner crying again

[ivory pawn]

You can probably just mix them up a bit to get it, before putting them back to normal.

[carmine heath]

what's the best stage just for xp?

[crimson glacier]

11-1 but actually 12-1

[soft raft]

technically 11-1
but 12-1/12-4 are the most common ones

[carmine heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697475157739962509/1245054406056087623/20211124_205043.gif

[final heart]

holy hell this worked, tysm

[zenith heron]

when is CNY/LNY event gonna end? February 5? was asking because I thought the rental skins might be until today...

[soft raft]

yes Feb 5th
Blucher rerun right after

[eternal basalt]

3 week event

[zenith heron]

Wild, but thanks

[eternal basalt]

Likely a week rest, like last year. Blücher 13th

[novel solstice]

12-1/12-4 is much preferred for xp farming because you get a trickle of cog chips, and you will spend the next five years wishing you had more of them. You will not be wishing you had a 1% more efficient xp/oil ratio, because the ships you're leveling will be stuck on awakening because you don't have enough chips.

[soft raft]

JP Patchnotes said it would be "Next Maint"
Which the 5th would be the next maint

Reruns happening right after a event arent exactly unheard of either

[eternal basalt]

Still valid if the maint is 13th

[whole crypt]

it's possible but 3 weeks without maint is not likely

[final heart]

besides from duisburg, are there any changes I should make?

[whole crypt]

LBing Enterprise would be a start

[eternal basalt]

Would be 2 weeks without maint, we got one last week, then now and next week, then it's 13th

[final heart]

I intend to do that, yeah, I'm wondering about team comp

[soft raft]

but the CNY Event only runs until the 5th
What's it gonna do after that if there's no maint to remove it?

[eternal basalt]

They don't need maint to remove it... like last year

[whole crypt]

23 to 28 is 1 week
29 to 5 is second
if we don't maint next week it'll be 3

[zenith heron]

reason of this is that even if you have your ideal ships leveled up, you still need to grind most ships till 120 and Maxed Limit broken for additional Tech Points, which is basically useful for endgame as of now, it may be miniscule per ship, but it is what it is to give the reason to grind more...

which is why Cognitive Arrays are always gonna get drained, but most people don't realize how important Cognitive Chips are...

[whole crypt]

also Chinese New Year this year is earlier than it was last year so having things move about a week off wouldn't be surprising

[eternal basalt]

13th Blücher, 20 Gear Lab, 27 UR...

[wary skiff]

I got 50 qf and 169 cubes lol

[whole crypt]

it's technically the same every year if you only use the Chinese lunisolar calendar

well we'll find out next week

[eternal basalt]

Hmm, looking at the patches it wasn't CNY that ended without maint, what else was it last year Atleast I know the devs coded it in this time.

[zenith heron]

for Dragon Empery ships, other than the DDG's and Chen Hai having usage? Which ships are commendable to use? Huan Ch'ang seems mid, or I am mistaken.... Yat Sen Retrofit?

Excluding Harbin since I am building her

[soft raft]

Yat Sen has a niche after retrofit (Namely since it lets her use other DE ships to activate her gimmick)

Chen Hai and Hwah Jah are pretty solid candidates for W15 support fleet
And that's really about it

[whole crypt]

Hwah Jah is a better Chen Hai now that she has retrofit as well
just don't use faction fleet

Yat Sen retrofit + DDG is a decent setup

[zenith heron]

[worldly pewter]

play the game and u should be fine

[eternal basalt]

(and skip the Blücher event, wait for the UR)

[zenith heron]

while reviewing the w15 guide, the Neptune gun isn't recommended and the 155 and Felix gun is more recommended, is it because of some niche? Damage difference? or Availability? for BB Auxes btw (sorry for lack of context)

[soft raft]

155 is much more avaliable
Neptune gun nowadays is a boomer equip since PR1 research focus hasnt been reccomended in years

[zenith heron]

but is it still usable? if so, what would be its rating? Between the Quad 152 and the 137? if Available...

[soft raft]

lower than both of them
And the 137 is only for DD gun locked BBs/BCs anyways

[zenith heron]

[sinful elk]

Chat which one is better to craft

[soft raft]

the DD Gun first

Also dont do the 406 mk6 path for the 406 Mk7

[patent raft]

Guys... Ask about your tb and navi need help. Please respond for second please?

[turbid dawn]

I'm gonna ask again, what would be the best CH15 fleet nowadays with all the releases since CH15 came out?

[turbid marsh]

guam eld z52 musashi unicorn aquila. should be enough to take care of both mob and boss 1/3

[hollow gust]

Use the w15 command in botspam

[turbid dawn]

I looked at that and it seemed very out of date, isn't Fritz a choice for Ch15 for example? If not in one of the 2 fleets then in at least the support?

[hollow gust]

Just put her in support then , none of the new ships effect fleet comp that drastically

[keen sable]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[patent raft]

sigh as i said, i just said that server name to check it out...

It's fine.

[keen sable]

Ic

[turbid dawn]

Well thats weird its not in the actual fleets but it does recommend the newer ships in text, kinda seems a bit strange

[hollow gust]

[sharp socket]

good cat? (as in can i stop rerolling)

[ivory pawn]

What were its starting talents?

[sharp socket]

destiny flame hp

[ivory pawn]

It’s probably the second best it can be, but if you wanted the best cat she can be you’d want to roll Ace Pilot + Chief of Staff.

[sharp socket]

oh yeah ace pilot forgot that exists, guess ill try on a diff cat

[viscid swift]

Well the sample fleets are just that, sample fleets. They're not meant to be the absolute best, just a good baseline to work with.

You can also check out the end game tier list he has linked to get an idea of how the new ships place in W15

[crude jetty]

If a ship is done being researched (even fate sim) will I still get their BPs from research?

Also is there a general guide on what to research from each series

[viscid swift]

Yes

[turbid dawn]

How many mobs is the first fleet supposed to kill? I'm presuming just as many as possible and if any 3 star CV spawns use the other fleet for it?

This is 15-3

[viscid swift]

Enough to clear at least

[turbid dawn]

I want to 3 star it so

[viscid swift]

We'll get it down to safe and see what happens

[sharp socket]

doing it on lethal seems rather sus

[turbid dawn]

Ill just see how far I get ig

[turbid marsh]

well how is it? should be clearing at least most of the mob

[turbid dawn]

The fleet died on the8th node, I then did the boss and didnt realise it was the last 1 so giving it another try rn

[turbid marsh]

hmmm, not bad not bad. better than I thought it would be. u got independance on boss?

[turbid dawn]

Mhm

Although I just realised I forgot to use subs/cats

[turbid marsh]

even better. hope you full clear lethal 15-3

[keen sable]

it depends. if you have other ships unfinished you won't see it's face(D) anymore but can still get it through general ship bp like G, B, C, H, etc. You don't get from s4 or earlier unless you mess up your focus.

[crude jetty]

I see tq

[turbid dawn]

This should be possible, right? 5 nodes left with full ammo

Nvm I don't have enough ASW lol so can't do the light fleets

[deep solstice]

Just wanna make sure I understand this correctly, to make the most out of faction/fleet tech, do we wanna get every ship we have to lv 120, even the common ones?

[jaunty vault]

thats a goal for the far future

you wanna go for the good ones first

and then there's also some you can skip

and then there's some that don't give tech

[turbid marsh]

your first fleet is dead?

[turbid dawn]

No, but Sushi was too low hp to continue

[wary skiff]

How does one bring the map from lethal to safe

[keen sable]

repeat

the lethal isn't the issue imo. it's the wasting oil

[turbid marsh]

oh what about others? if full then get aquila in the middle i guess, get hp from the smoll 3star or cv2star

[turbid dawn]

I didn't think about that tbh, I just went and cleared and changed up fleets1 more time

[round maple]

If I have all UR's already at dev 30 except Hakuryuu should I use all these remaining blueprints (series 5) on her or would it be better to trade them for that different thing in shop? I Total forgot I have these and farmed even tho I didn't need to I guess :/

[turbid marsh]

but its weird, kinda, cause z52 + aquila should be enough to heal/protect musashi... in theory ofc

[keen sable]

s5 for s5 fs. the 107 s4 is traded unless you have all the rainbow gear already

[torpid crystal]

Reinstalling the game 🙏
I missed, Fritz Rumey, Yorktown 2, and Musashi

am i cooked

[white agate]

all those people telling me cogn chips were scarce were lying i see

[keen sable]

missing chitose skin though...that's rough

[turbid marsh]

or maybe he has like less than 400 120s

[white agate]

idk, i started by farming the common rare and elite shitters to cut off the initial consume of cog chips

[turbid marsh]

thats what i did 3 years ago.

[keen sable]

when you put in langley just to realize she makes it worse

[coral elk]

She should be coinable, so no reason to spend prints to do what can be done with coins

[stuck lodge]

Hi bro, what is the full size of Azur Lane now?

[turbid dawn]

So yeah basically 3rd time I've changed gear around a bit, fully utilised subs+cats and the mob fleet cleared every single mob node and finished with full hp, so yeah was easy to 3 start on lethal once you actually use everything properly

[turbid marsh]

yes. 15-4 is easier in this case. good luck man!

[round maple]

Gear? I only have ships on dev 30

[turbid dawn]

Is 15-4 easier then? Still got 2 more clears to get to 100%

[round maple]

Um okay so... I never bought anything in this shop any recommendations what to buy?

[keen sable]

you're trading for tenrai, q152, etc right? rainbows. what else would you want with protocore?

[keen sable]

tenrai

[round maple]

This?

[keen sable]

buy only how much you need to craft another one

like if you're at 19/50 buy 31

[atomic abyss]

he meant tenrai but yes

[round maple]

Cause... I am playing since 2019 and well I have 2 UR guns from research only 😦

[keen sable]

oops my bad

[atomic abyss]

well it doesnt matter when you played from if it's not consistent

[keen sable]

well that's 5 extra UR gear right there

[round maple]

Yeah... I was not doing a good research things I guess :/

This is my current

[keen sable]

16 tenrai and just go for the 31 q152. you will probably end up with like 10 leftover in a year or so.

[round maple]

Okay, thank you

[turbid marsh]

if i remember correctly, 15-4 is easier to full clear because there is

[torpid crystal]

whats the current event btw

and whats the next UR?

reinstalling atm

[viscid swift]

LnY and we don't know

[keen sable]

global raid which uhh

[torpid crystal]

wasn't the last rerun yorktown 2?

[turbid marsh]

just save some 1 star nodes to heal and should be doable. you need your first fleet to clear mob + first and 3rd boss. second fleet to deal with the 2 light armour, so if you want to, yorktown2+inde+good bb should be good.

[viscid swift]

Yes

[torpid crystal]

what comes after

[viscid swift]

Operation Convergence reruns after this event ends

After that we don't know

Probably a new UR event at the end of February but what that will contain is anyone's guess

[torpid crystal]

i thought UR reruns followed the pattern in which they were released

[viscid swift]

They mostly do but not always

And there's more events than just UR reruns

[turbid marsh]

i just want my neptunia collab to come back 😦

[turbid dawn]

There's 1 star nodes? the lowest i've seen is 2, are they rare or something?

[round maple]

Out of these best idea to limit break?

[keen sable]

how much spec core do you have?

[turbid marsh]

or 2 star smol, doesn't matter, or coin ships

[viscid swift]

Hos many UR bullins have you got

And is that all of your URs?

[round maple]

70k

0 bullins, but can buy

[keen sable]

and what ships do you have

[round maple]

I have all UR's except Laffey 2

[viscid swift]

All the rest are MLB?

[keen sable]

probably the filter seems to be ur can limit break

[round maple]

I think yeah I used filter

[viscid swift]

are you planning on tackling W15 anytime soon

[round maple]

I can't beat W13 let alone 15...

[viscid swift]

Frankly appalling fleet building and gearing on your end of that's the cas3

[keen sable]

i think soyuz and amagii

[viscid swift]

Because you should be steamrolling w13 with what you have

[keen sable]

but i'm meta

[next nova]

Should i always use Shinano as Flagship for her Butterflies or is it whatever?

[viscid swift]

It's negligable

[turbid marsh]

you no aquila unicorn?

[barren tapir]

rare yes

also 1 star cv is a trap, it still is pretty tough plane-wise while also hiding a nasty bb right in the middle of it which 2* and 3* cvs dont have

[round maple]

Not good gear I think is bigger problem

[viscid swift]

Anyway, Soyuz, Amagi, Z52, Guam if you plan to push campaign

Otherwise do Unzen instead of Guam

[barren tapir]

the easiest and best possible spawn is any level of cargo node, those are free wins

low planes, no bbs, no suicide/subs

[viscid swift]

Considering that you can clear w13 quite easily with gear only from tech boxes

[round maple]

I will try to beat it again then

[barren tapir]

i steamrolled ch13 you should have no problem with it

[sweet delta]

w15 with purple gear only

[turbid dawn]

Doing my last clear now and yeah sadly I havent seen any 1star or cargos, I hope 15-4 will have some to make it easier

[barren tapir]

i only saw 2 cargos in the entirety of 15-1 to 15-3, definitely rare. also only 2 1 star nodes and both were cv

[turbid dawn]

I mean tbf it doesn't seem like it's needed anyway, the fact I could full clear it with all 2 or 3 star nodes and still had full HP after using 1 fleet to clear every single mob. Power creep too strong?

[left cedar]

W15 with purple gears ... that gona be insane

[turbid dawn]

And on lethal

[sweet delta]

I agree, insane

[keen sable]

was insane

hedgehog allowed right or is this for the bricked hedgehog scrappers?

[turbid marsh]

even support fleet got power crept, 2 chinese with purple planes + fritz flapjacks

[turbid dawn]

Do the chinese have that much intercept? I know they go from seaplanes to fighters but still

[keen sable]

every carrier with 5 or more fighters performs acceptably

[sweet delta]

They have high rld

[turbid marsh]

apparently chenhai was tested again with fw190 and got third place, but that was by cn.

[molten zinc]

High rld, high slot eff make up for their low AVI

[sweet delta]

They don't test for ranking, it's too hard to test for ranking. It's a calculation based on stats

[viscid swift]

Hwa Jah doesn't even really have low AVI

[turbid marsh]

hwahjah is proven already second place after fritz, fw190x2

yeah by theory/calculation

[sweet delta]

*calculated

[turbid dawn]

I mean it is funny as it is just seeing a constant stream of Flapjacks all fight already, would Hwah Jah add even more?

[round maple]

Now I know why I couldn't beat W13... All these enemy planes shredded my main fleet

[molten zinc]

[viscid swift]

As I said, massive fleet and gear issues, start a thread and post your dock, just URs and SRs

[round maple]

Please help me with W13 fleet buildnf :/

[turbid marsh]

yeah sakura with their imaginery planes

[tender girder]

wow. how do i beat module development lv 75..
would fu shun work well there?

[viscid swift]

Bring as much damage as you can against light armor CL

[hallow mountain]

What's the best fighter I have in my depot? I'm trying to find something else other than the Messerschmitt

[viscid swift]

Those Gold Hellcats and Seafangs, and Purple Corsairs

[hallow mountain]

ight thanks

[sweet delta]

Healer main fleet with high damage vanguard

[tender girder]

erm... who are my best bets?
i guess i can get enterprise soon... not sure if that helps.

[sweet delta]

Anch fushun Helena unicorn plus two. Preferably carriers. Enterprise would help by a tiny bit

Do not wait for enterpise, her damage difference would be the same as just leveling your vg

[whole crypt]

I'm just pointlessly second guessing myself but there's not much reason to move out of 12-1 for leveling is there

[inland shoal]

Only cog chips really

[novel solstice]

Certainly don't move back to 11 and miss out on the cog chips.
If the fleet you are leveling can handle 13-1, sure, level it there for slightly more cog chips.

[tulip zenith]

Should I get harbin or ibuki

[whole crypt]

I don't need more chips per se but I also don't want to drop to 0 so yeh

[tropic tusk]

Is 90 the max it will add? Om the first one

Is there a way I can get the last 10?

Without using her

[boreal wagon]

you can cope with dorm hearts but thatll take 700 years

[plain saffron]

Wait for event blessings

[tropic tusk]

When was the last time that came

[tropic tusk]

Dorm gives exp

[boreal wagon]

dorm also has a chance to spawn heart icons which give very very very very very small amounts of affinity

[tropic tusk]

I want her stay lvl 1

[plain saffron]

I don't remember

[boreal wagon]

rumey event had it

[tropic tusk]

Rip

Oh well gota wait the next one

[whole crypt]

if you want blessings event I think only new year is the only consistent event that does it

[undone plover]

it is usually around december
the blessings event

[whole crypt]

the last one we got was with Fritz Rumey, so yes December -> New Year

(and I totally didn't even realize it until the last day because for whatever reason they thought it didn't need a notification or event bar this year)

[eternal basalt]

They have other events with the buff though, just not hanging the stuff

[split gazelle]

as a beginner, does it matter on which type I spend my wisdom cubes?

[whole crypt]

eh, it's usually done with the ema hanging

[whole crypt]

build 1 in light daily for mission, save cubes for new major events

[soft raft]

And if you're thinking of pulling heavy/special for the URs there, dont

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[tulip zenith]

Can u get Chen hai from this event?

[final heart]

should I stop developing roon to switch to friedrich der grobe?

she's kinda close to finishing, the only thing left is this

[wind hazel]

if you can start developing FDG, yes

Roon entire purpose is to reach FDG

[final heart]

thank god I didn't put my cubes into roon yet

[final heart]

you can, she's in the new year's spring invitation

[soft raft]

CVs are not a light pool hulltype so not off of this banner

[vale spindle]

na with augment roon good now

[final heart]

I'll return to her once I'm done with friedrich, I need to replace tipitz after all

[tender girder]

i don't know if i want to dump 3m exp, and 5 yellow, 10 purple retrofit stuff into roon

for... idk. 30+ tech points??

[wind hazel]

it's good if you don't have tech for FDG. if you have enough tech for FDG then its priority goes way lower

[soft raft]

38 on obtain
76 on MLB/D30

that's like 1/6th of the points needed for FdG

[tulip zenith]

I just remembered that’s who I picked 😭

[final heart]

yeah I just got enough for friedrich, I was wondering if roon was still worth it or not
working on getting scary bb iron blood lady rn

[wind hazel]

you'd still come back for Roon later for AVP Agir lul

[tender girder]

what is the best equip for fu shun if i replace kazugumo?

[white agate]

what fleet is that? mob or boss?

[tender girder]

Module Development lv 75

[storm heron]

do you really have level 120 ships with purple equips?

[white agate]

i think he used the calc

[final heart]

it's not directed at me but I feel personally attacked lol

[raven canyon]

the poverty

[wind hazel]

it's just ship composition and the gearing. the lv isn't relevant

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

this is probably the budget option

doesnt look much different other than the gun from expensive option...

[storm heron]

and maybe use another toolbox or hp aux instead of seal if core data is scarce

[wind hazel]

DDG without the missile and seal are kinda half assed imo

if you can't have both, don't use them

[storm heron]

yeah I see em no shells

[tender girder]

yeah still missing seal... saving up proto

[storm heron]

it's coda not proto

[tender girder]

i'm having trouble finding this torpedo.. how do i acquire it?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/550mm_Triple_Torpedo_Mount#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[stark quiver]

it says in the wiki

[tender girder]

wiki says. it may drop randomly from research, which i've never seen...
and event, which isn't in war archive

[ivory pawn]

Do more Q researches then, especially 1-2 hr ones.

[cobalt rapids]

do you have the blue ones?

[soft raft]

that said event wont archive btw
cuz it's a raid event

The ships there are already in perma

[tender girder]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

unlucky

[tender girder]

oh.. i guess i can buy iris orthodoxy box

whenever i see them in shop

[cobalt rapids]

just do more research, ull have em in no time

[sweet delta]

Craft it

[tender girder]

i have 1/5... hahaah. gotta keep researching i guess

[stark quiver]

just open a iris tech box

[stark quiver]

Wrong channel?

[zenith heron]

Definitely wrong channel

[eager mulch]

[round maple]

Keep them or wait if there will be fate simulation?

[ivory pawn]

I’d save for Fate Sim.

[novel solstice]

There will definitely be fate sim eventually, so just wait for it.

[cobalt rapids]

for 1 more year at least

[woven star]

Skybound Oratorio WA A1 you can try luck with type3 550mm twin

[forest palm]

sounds like a waste of time

[round maple]

And out of these what do you guys think is best to upgrade

[forest palm]

Kears

[cobalt rapids]

i would wait till u can d30 one with the prints

from kear and hinden

[round maple]

Because I have all these :/ and wanted to get rid of them finaly

But sure I can wait

[eternal moth]

That'll help if you have any that are complete

[eternal basalt]

Just don't de-mark "save for fate sim" and later cry when they get fate sim.

[eternal moth]

Click Blueprint Analysis

[round maple]

Only UR's sowed up

[eternal moth]

Make sure you check the box for Reserve Blueprints required for Fate Sim

And those aren't all URs

[novel solstice]

The ones with yellow backgrounds aren't URs.

[round maple]

I mean that only UR's blueprints showed up when I clicked Batch Analysis

[eternal moth]

Then you haven't finished the research for the other ships

[round maple]

Ah right these aren't finished yet bruh, sry

[forest palm]

[wary skiff]

is tool prep 3 commision worth to run

[soft raft]

nop
esp if it costs like 1.2k oil

[viscid swift]

only if you don't have time to farm

[coral elk]

How to know which gear to upgrade above +10 and which gear to go for in general?

(If I spent a lot of my OpSi resources I maybe could get a piece of UR gear, not sure which exactly tho)

[atomic abyss]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[wary skiff]

lool i upgraded shells first

[atomic abyss]

refer to this for +13 prios

to be clear
it should be either you go all the way to 13 or leave it at 10

cos the largest jump is from 12 to 13

[coral elk]

Hmm, is it left to right/top to bottom/both or do I pick and choose from which I can actually upgrade/benefit from?

[atomic abyss]

the latter

the prio is usually (the good) gold BB guns and gold planes

[coral elk]

Ahh, it's by outlines

Alright, +13 wise I got it, but what about gear lab gear/UR gear? How many of each should I try to get and which is the most important to get first

Or would that depend only on the gearing of my best ships so its a pointless question?

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment should give this a read, there's a section on gear lab as well

[coral elk]

Thanks, return of my browser being a mess from all the AL resources, lmao

[tame jungle]

for gear lab, don't craft more than you actually need
when in doubt hoard resources

[coral elk]

Hmm, I prolly should get some UR mg's for my UR BB's

[white cave]

Which character should I get for the new year invitation?

[cobalt rapids]

i dont recommend having more than 1-2 457 and 1-2 mk7 in depot unless ur rly rich

[white cave]

i have taihou

[cobalt rapids]

i would save it till i get all the characters except 1

because they are all collection

[coral elk]

Well, currently only UR BB gun I have is the Musashi event gun

And I ain't using it

[cobalt rapids]

im just saying any more is not a good investment of resources

[coral elk]

Hmm, with exclusion of rld reduction buffs from skills, would UR bb's more or less sync with one another if they have the same gun?

[stark quiver]

just get 1 457, and use t410 on musashi

[cobalt rapids]

more or less

[cobalt rapids]

. or check pins

[woven star]

I decided to get second 457 for non Helena team

[barren tapir]

well roon is also a good ship if u bother to raise her, max her and augment her but ye

[iron lily]

Hey, I'm considering coming back to the game after a little over a year. I didn't play much before I left and I was wondering, since a lot of other games recommend starting a fresh account in similar situations, should I start fresh, or is there no benefit in doing that in this game and I should just come back to my old account?

Not sure if this is the proper channel, so apologies if it isnt

[jaunty vault]

keeping old account is better for this game

unless your old account was day one new and there was a UR event ongoing

[soft raft]

Honestly this is the first time I've heard of such advice
which kinda sounds whatever, especially if you've made decent progress on your old ac, why throw away all of that effort

[jaunty vault]

some games have limited time new player events that you might have missed

[iron lily]

well lots of other games just power creep completely out of control within a year and there is little to no point in keeping a weakold account over just restarting, cause often you will just become stronger on a fresh account within weeks than you can possibly get on an old account, cause the new account gives new player benefits/pulls.

I had a feeling that this was different for this game, but wanted to check anyway 😄 I think I left right around the time I got to world 9 or so, so will just come back to my old acc 🙂

[stark quiver]

if u use old acc, u dont need to go thru tutorial

[turbid marsh]

yeah this game is different XD one of the worst games to start another acc

[stray geode]

i can buy 5 UR bulins. was saving for implacable rerun but tempted to build z52. any advice on which one to prioritize?

[atomic abyss]

save for the next new UR

[stray geode]

around when does that come out?

[atomic abyss]

at earliest late feb if going by previous years

impla rerun would likely be after that

[white agate]

https://azur-stats.lyoko.io/research5-equipments apparently i am not able to see anything in the page; is it normal?

[wispy creek]

max number of SY-1A you can have is 2 correct?

[sinful elk]

Why thou

[white agate]

where did the data go then?

[keen sable]

cheaters never win

[forest palm]

back to bed grampa moment

[vagrant steppe]

Using my pity trade what should I get Kronstadt or Ulrich?

[tame jungle]

is your shinano mlb

[vagrant steppe]

Yes

My URs right now

[storm heron]

imo ulrich for tech / crossfleet

[floral thunder]

i have too many ships and my dock cap in 176, should i get more space?

[keen sable]

shima

[floral thunder]

should i spend 200 or 400 diamonds?

[keen sable]

there's over 600 ships in the game

more room is easier farming

[coral elk]

How many strongholds do you get per one OpSi reset?

[keen sable]

2 + 1 on following Mondays

[woven star]

Try to have at least 20 free docks. 30 even better

[floral thunder]

i have 11 rn 😭

[coral elk]

So it's 2+ however much mondays there were till the next reset?

[woven star]

For opportunities farming 3-4 times without existing for enchant or sell

[coral elk]

For sake of simplicity you should have more or less enough to have enough space for a 3x2 runs, at least for me it's that way

[stark quiver]

This month should be 6

[coral elk]

Less than that and it was quite annoying having runs when game interrupted you constantly about not enough space

[coral elk]

But you can have only 3 at a time, right?

[stark quiver]

Iirc yes

[coral elk]

What happens to those that should have spawned, but you already had 3?

[eternal moth]

You'll only SEE 3 at a time, but the others will show up once those are cleared

[coral elk]

Ahh

Game didn't load them after I beat one, that's what made me confused

Since I for a moment thought that excess ones just got sent to the void

[eternal moth]

They can show up on zones with gold or red chests already on them, and IIRC won't overwrite those icons

[coral elk]

Ehh, it didn't load at all when I beat one, but when I went to lobby and went back to OpSi, it appeared

[stark quiver]

Prob a deaync

[torpid crystal]

what time are daily resets again?

[white agate]

i think in 7h not sure, night comm are in 2h

[ivory pawn]

About 7h is right.

<t:1738220400:t> to be precise.

[stark quiver]

In 6h 44m

[worldly pewter]

for the global server

[viscid swift]

well this is the EN server

[torpid crystal]

ty

[keen sable]

not a desync but you do need to exit ops

does prevent someone from camping ops for an extra stronghold

[sharp socket]

i found EX gives about 300 coins per run and at 40 oil per run thats 7.5 coin/oil ratio which is better than 12-4

[eager mulch]

[rapid grail]

chat is there maint today

[undone plover]

yeah wiki has the info
but EX needs manual repeat which sux

[coral elk]

Damn, after a ton of help here, I actually managed to beat hard arbiter

[grizzled sundial]

Finish MLB Shinano , what UR should i go for pity next ? :/

[rapid grail]

show dock
even without that, prio goes to shinano -> nj -> uvh -> kronshtadt -> shimakaze

[grizzled sundial]

Nj still relevant ?

[vital meadow]

how do you get hatsushimo?

[sweet delta]

/wiki hatsushomo

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hatsushimo
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hatsushimo/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hatsushimo/Gallery

Jan 30, 2025, 2:04 AM

[keen sable]

guild shop

[vital meadow]

she's not in there

[keen sable]

relevant is a relative thing

[keen sable]

look in limited

[vital meadow]

found it idk how i missed that

is there gonna be maintenance tomorrow?

[ivory pawn]

No. Taking a vacation for CNY.

[viscid swift]

no, it's LNY today

[forest palm]

a little google would tell you this

[bright tusk]

is there a list of the best to good carriers for w15 support?

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /w15

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[eager mulch]

[signal leaf]

just wanna know why the gold 533 quad is better than the quint

[forest palm]

are you talking about the magnetic launcher? cause there's a lot of 533

[zenith heron]

if you are talking about the Gold Quad 533 Magnetic Torp mount and the UR Quint Magnetic Torp mount

the Gold Quad is your best bet for your torpedo's in almost every content, with the UR Quintuple being a side grade, due to at least having slightly better DMG stat, slightly slower CD, but looks similar if not better Damage output...

[forest palm]

it's usually about the SSR Quint Magnetic

[signal leaf]

Im talkin about the gold quint and the gold quad sorry lol

[forest palm]

as I said

[zenith heron]

oh, well the Gold Quint is bait material then over the gold quad

[signal leaf]

but doesnt it have like a slightly better damage stat?

[sweet delta]

Does it?

Quad is 145x4 and quint SR is 133x5 on a much longer reload, and going from 4 to 5 doesn't mean it hits 25% more

[zenith heron]

quad is like 140+ x 4, and Quint is 130+ x 5, yeah it has better dmg stat, but unlike the UR counterpart which is the better sidegrade

the Gold Quint seems worse for overall dmg output

[somber quest]

Rainbow mags are just a little too slow for the DPS to overtake it

[signal leaf]

My eyes must be tweaking

[forest palm]

SSR Quint Magnetic are

• less damage per torpedo
• Longer RoF
• Larger Cone Spread
• Worse Coefficient

[zenith heron]

its similar to the Purple Triple 533 Magnetic Torp vs the Purple Quad 533 Magnetic Torp

also the fact that there is a purple Quint mag torp, and its a no brainer to not use it due to its horrendous dmg stat and longer cooldown

[forest palm]

UR Quint Magnetic compensates for all of the SSR ver's issues, and brings the UR ver in line with the SSR Quad Magnetic

not that you should be crafting the UR Quint Magnetic though, and it's just simpler to use the SSR Quad Magnetic

[zenith heron]

unless you are in late game and you have a lot of prints, which is why its preferred as a side grade, knowing that its the only UR Torp that is currently craftable...

[obsidian ivy]

Are there any drop only ships I'm missing from w13-15, except Dewey, bunker, NO, Houston2?

[forest palm]

don't think so

[zenith heron]

New Orleans at w14

[forest palm]

that's NO

[obsidian ivy]

[zenith heron]

while I am searching the torps damage output on the wiki

why does Pre Load damage have better output compared to normal load ones?

[soft raft]

Preload = free damage right at the start of a fight

[rapid grail]

Is there maint today in EN and Jp

[near cargo]

Is Nakhimov rainbow plane good?

[soft raft]

event ends next week

[rapid grail]

ah, i'll interpret that as no maint today

kk

[viscid swift]

It's lunar new year to day so there no patch

[sweet delta]

You may consult this for hit rate estimations on auto https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X4hafXGXiqSgaIJdcWA3La7rvZCFVJZzZ44GqyQ_Fxo/edit?usp=drivesdk

[polar lion]

We dun hab mainten today, right?

[rain vine]

nope, devs are on holiday for cny

[polar lion]

Noicee

[coral elk]

Does it mean maint tomorrow?

[thorn tartan]

do you get any extra tech for retrofitting?

[forest palm]

no, retro is just for collection %

[thorn tartan]

how does it help with that?

[forest palm]

[ivory pawn]

Means the exact opposite. Earliest would be about a week from tomorrow.

[forest palm]

Retrofits are their own entry in AL's Pokedex it's quite simple

[thorn tartan]

oh ok

[coral elk]

Damn, they really going to delay it by a week?

[forest palm]

for cases like this the devs set up soft patches which we just download

[soft raft]

this event was already planned to run for 3 weeks anyways
so no it is not a delay

If it really were a delay, 1) We would've recived news of the intial planned date tonight like yesturday and 2) we would've then recived a follow-up announcment for the delay

[coral elk]

Wasn't it till the 3rd Feb?

Or my memory acting up

Till 5th, ahh

[forest palm]

[tender girder]

which would you rather do, if you just wanted fleet tech?

• Research Roon (5 gold retro, 10 purple retro) + 4 gold bullions to MLB Roon
• or spend 4 gold bullions to MLB Tirpitz

[eternal moth]

Roon doesn't take bulins

[sweet delta]

Depends on your dock

[tender girder]

Roon doesn't take gold bulins to MLB?

[sweet delta]

Gold retros are quite valuable as sandy takes 20, but so are gold bulins. Why not get more purple ships?

[eternal moth]

But I did Roon to FdG to Agir on my alt that started on the Fritz event

[eternal moth]

None of the research ships take bulins to MLB, they take blueprints instead. In Roon's case you can use coins to buy the BP; it's recommended to buy 10 per 10 at 3k total

[sweet delta]

Max tirpitz so you can use her to farm the exp part too

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Tirpitz is still useful for farming for FdG. I used Fritz/Tirpitz/Graf as I got her in the NY invite

[tender girder]

sad i started after NY invite

[soft raft]

Pretty sure you got like a whole ass week left to get that invite

[eternal moth]

Current CNY is different and doesn't have Graf

[soft raft]

Oh that

[solar canopy]

Is Brest more worth it than Kronshtadt, Guam, Ägir, and Azuma?

[eternal moth]

Agir is still, AFAIK, considered the best tank, although she isn't the tankiest anymore

[sweet delta]

worth what? In terms of strength when maxed out, Aegir/Guam > Brest/Kron > Azuma

[eternal moth]

Guam is also more useful in chapter 15

[solar canopy]

oh I've been using Agir and Guam all this time. And I developed Brest because I thought it could be better. But it turns out that Agir and Guam are still Goat.
Okay then, thank you for the knowledge. I will make her my valuable collection.

[zenith heron]

[fickle hollow]

[agile slate]

Hey yall, do the op siren coordinate things expire when op si resets ?

Nvm someone asked abt it.. thats stupid why does everything reset

[stark quiver]

because devs said so

[turbid marsh]

well if it aint reset, then theres really not much to grind tbh, thats where all the gold plates and all the other goodies comes from....

but then they could just up the rewards and chances and all the other things, and just do shop reset only with more items in the shop to compensate XD

[agile slate]

I meant, why do the storage reset? Its kind of dumb

I guess ill grind everything in 2 days xd

[turbid marsh]

welp probably a way to make people actually pay attention i guess

[agile slate]

Ngl it would be nice if there was like a (!) Symbol on the expiring items

(Like they did with the Build tickets)

[granite rain]

I unlocked Agir and am pretty close to finishing her development, but I have no gold CB guns. Is my best option just to swap my research focus to 4 and pray for blueprints for her gun?

[stark quiver]

why would you need a symbol, its literally every end of month

[atomic abyss]

Use CA guns for now

[agile slate]

Just to know what goes and what doesnt. Ig if everything goes away then it makes sense

I dunno, just wasnt aware of EVERYTHING in storage being reset

[atomic abyss]

You can gear lab or protocore the gun later if needed

[turbid marsh]

(think it says everything is being reset somewhere in opsi)

[stark quiver]

everything in the materials section of storage goes away

[agile slate]

ok nvm lmao im prolly just blind asf 💀

Oh my god I didnt realize how the shops worked either (with area clearing)... guess im really gonna grind it out

Are the purple coordinates worth doing? Or is it better for them to become tickets

[stark quiver]

r3 +

[agile slate]

Thanks

[signal fog]

no maintenance later ?

[stark quiver]

no

[signal fog]

looks like they still on vacation, lol

[nimble knoll]

How can I equip a skin? (not ship skin)

[nimble knoll]

Ty

[honest vector]

What should I put in Rumey's second slot if I want to use her as OpSi mob flag?

[sweet delta]

Wyvern or spearfish

[honest vector]

Spear it is.

[dapper axle]

Hey, can anybody give link to cat guide on wiki?

[stark quiver]

do /cats in #bot-spam

[dapper axle]

Oh, thanks!

[river junco]

Should I 125 my DDGs or just leave them at 120?

[sweet delta]

one is ok, but don't do multiple before thinking about why you would use multiple

[glass basin]

how do I get tai yuan's retrofit item?

[storm heron]

what do you need that for
||in the special core shop||

[glass basin]

Heard Tai Yuan is the best rocket DD

[storm heron]

like maximum 5% difference to the currently free fu shun

[glass basin]

oh
well in that case I better save 1/4 of a rainbow bulin

[spare mango]

FushunKai bad?

[wind hazel]

FushunKai good

@bold stream i forgot this isn't daily remind me on Monday

[zenith heron]

In OpSi, The BB Fleet, is it ok to use the twin 406 mk4 as an alternative? Considering I have only 1 twin 457... Or should I stick to Champy Guns?

Or is it best not to use the 457, stay with the Champagne guns, and use Agir-Helena-Plymouth as the Vanguard?

[tender girder]

if i'm 100 guild currency short, and i already picked up my daily stuff... and the shop refresh in 24 hr.

[wind hazel]

depends on enemy armour

[tender girder]

there's nothing i can do right?

[bold stream]

Okay I will!

[wind hazel]

if you haven't done your weekly guild mission, you can collect some guild token there

[tender girder]

weekly mission done since day 1

[wind hazel]

ripbozo

wait for tomorrow i guess oh nvm tomorrow new shop

[tender girder]

how long do ppl usually take... until they get FDG?

[zenith heron]

Normally 2 weeks at least

[tender girder]

WTF. i've been playing for 3 weeks now.. lol. not close

240/600 tech points

[zenith heron]

Oh the tech points is a different situation then

It depends how lucky you are with KMS tech, and how fast you'll get them to max

Some can reach a month or more if committed

[tender girder]

when i initially whaled for PR anchor and Izumo...

I guess a different option would be to go for August, Odin

which would help in fleet tech

I wasn't thinking that far

[zenith heron]

It depends, if researching other KMS PRs is doable than 120 mlb them ships, but I won't recommend it

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

you can use this as a guide to beeline to FDG if you wanna

[tender girder]

unrelated question... if i have bought the trade license (1 cube per day)
would it then make more sense for do 1 Heavy summon per day, rather than 1 Light summon?

just for the chance of getting a UR?

[wind hazel]

no

getting a new UR is pointless if you can't limit break them

especially on permanent UR

well shinano is a bit different i guess

unless you whale really hard on cubes, it's still not a good idea

[nocturne glade]

how large is the jump between sandy and sandy retro? Starting to work on her because I've been having trouble with planes

[elfin hollow]

Lmb yt2 or z52 first guys

[storm heron]

massive jump, though do note that sandy is expensive

[nocturne glade]

yea, I'm just waiting on the last 5 or so gold retrofit mats, but her retro item looks a bit pricey from the shop

[storm heron]

depends on all the URs you have

[storm heron]

it's way longer for sure

[tender girder]

yeah... assuming no KMZ banner / event

I feel like for F2P at least 2 months?
for minnows. maybe 1 - 1.5 months.

If there was a KMZ banner / event, then that speeds up i suppose

[zenith heron]

Depending if they want to use those logistics plan, which is not advised but I did use it accidentally, which is the reason I am drained with 80 left

[hollow gust]

Logistics Plans aren't gonna do much

[nocturne glade]

the BPs (coinup for fdg ig) seem to be what take the longest

[zenith heron]

Yeah, got my ass learned that time due to actually realizing it only doubles your rewards more than your exp if I could recall

Either way, not doing that again

[wind hazel]

it doubles everything...

[storm heron]

ultimately it depends on how much exp you can collect. Without a kms event, following Sam's guide, you will need to mlb 11 ship (586) + obtain some SRs to get the 44 IB points

[zenith heron]

Then it just means using Logistics plan is just worse than doing it normally when completing EXP Research on PR/DRs than doing it normally

[wind hazel]

i wouldn't say it's worse, just that it rarely will make a difference

[storm heron]

the limitation I believe is oil, thus I don't think heclp gonna do much since it saves only time and not oil

[zenith heron]

So its just a waste of x2 tries then, considering you use it on Events only

[wind hazel]

i dont use them on event

[zenith heron]

Me neither

RNG Drops on certain Hard D3 is just to much for me, unlike you guys for the least

[hollow gust]

Logistic planes is literally just running twice , there is no reason not to use it , there is no negative effect to using it

[zenith heron]

But its a waste when doing EXP for PR/DR then

[wind hazel]

you lose morale twice as fast

[hollow gust]

Literally no?

[wind hazel]

but your morale recovery isn't twice as fast...

[hollow gust]

It gives the same exp

[storm heron]

:kearfused:

[zenith heron]

Ok, I'll just stay with not using Logistics Plan then...

Unless its D3 Farming again

[hollow gust]

[zenith heron]

Also my response is wrong considering what he talks is actually getting KMS Tech, while I responded an answer concerning for EXP Farming for DR/PR

[storm heron]

ok mr donny

[hollow gust]

This was 5 years ago

Wait no it's 6, too expensive to change my name

[storm heron]

there was a 30% discount on black friday

[hollow gust]

10 dock slots though

[whole crypt]

imagine changing names

[slow fox]

Cheeky in shambles

[round maple]

guys how to upgrade cat lodge?

[split gazelle]

is there anything I should buy as beginner with gems?

[tender lotus]

It gain point each time u use it make sure it has cat on each slot for faster progress

[cobalt gate]

should i start focusing on dd for front row fleet technology?

[tender lotus]

I'll focus on CA torp first if i were you
If that possible

[crimson glacier]

ca torp? really?

[tender lotus]

Really

[crimson glacier]

sounds completely useless

[dreamy blade]

theres only like...2 CAs that care about torp stat no

[whole crypt]

keep logging in and checking it every day, the XP goes up when you pick up the dailies

[eternal basalt]

Just use it every day, that's it

[dreamy blade]

unzen and ibuki

[whole crypt]

there's no other way to raise it

[frank pulsar]

dd fp

[wind hazel]

check /gems in #bot-spam
tl;dr is 3rd dorm slot+2nd floor, the rest into dockspace

[split gazelle]

oh ty

[cobalt gate]

so no ca torp?

[crimson glacier]

id rather do dd fp

[elfin hollow]

Can I ask what to use retrofited Eldridge for?

[cobalt gate]

ex or 3rd slot tanking

[frank pulsar]

she has a slow as well

[verbal lintel]

i need help make me several fleet pls im kinda new

[atomic abyss]

Frontline FP

[frank pulsar]

does fu shun need a seal

[wind hazel]

all anshan class wants it

[sharp socket]

uhh
mob: nelson unicorn essex(?) portland laffey someone
boss: brunhilde enty ark roonu sandy saint louis
no idea if brunhilde is good or not, VV if you can

[nocturne glade]

is there a specific one I should be going for?

[turbid dawn]

Do you lot think it's possible to 3 star 15-4 on lethal with only 1 2star node spawning or should I just try another run of it?

[obsidian ivy]

BB node gonna wreck your face but you can try I suppose

[turbid dawn]

Well I completely forgot ammo nodes only gave 3 since I hadnt touched campaign in so long so wish me luck with the boss where Im out of ammo but cleared all nodes lol

They're all full hp so it should be okay I think

Holy hell it did kill it but with 5s left, so yeah you can 3 star letahl it even with all but 1 3 star node

[tender girder]

do i take all decent charactres to 120? or do i only do that for for main teams?

or perhaps only dmg dealers??

[slow fox]

No one's told me my Yuudachi calculation is broken 😭

[atomic abyss]

Focus on getting your main teams to 120/125 first
I.e, campaign and opsi fleets

Getting everything else, decent or otherwise to 120 is for their fleet tech bonuses (which give bonus stats to all ships) is a late/end game grind

[dense briar]

Does north 2s scan debuff stack with helena’s?

[nova lichen]

How good is the AD-1 Skyraider?

If not what do I replace it with?

[worldly pewter]

it is a rocket DB good/the best against light and med armored bosses

[nova lichen]

So mix it with boss fight orientated carriers like Enty?

[worldly pewter]

when u fight a light/med armored boss put it on the ship that has the most DB planes

[slow fox]

83.47 --> 86.87

Is this a fair judgement? Should I change the 550 HP aux to a 640 HP aux?

[wind hazel]

both if you wanna be completely fair

is there any permanent 640hp aux?

[boreal wagon]

yat sen's umbrella albeit capped at 2

and technically the an shan seal

[whole crypt]

640 is just the gold 550s at +13

[slow fox]

SOTG, yeah

I guess I want to phrase it more like:

I think it's reasonable to +13 rudders. Does the same hold for SOTG?

[whole crypt]

s4g is the only one you can reasonably own in volume because core shop yeh

[slow fox]

Or - another POV:

It's true that 2 HP aux with neither +13 is unfair because it's not ideal DD setup.

Aren't CL/A/B unfair because not using Beaver Rudder?

[whole crypt]

or just base everything on +10

[slow fox]

[wind hazel]

there are 550 purple, but the point is one is +13, another is +10, so different value comparison to begin with

[sharp socket]

does crossfleet scale off level and does it have hitrate

[boreal wagon]

it indirectly scales of off ship level (because the ships stats change and it scales with stats), usually directly scales with skill level
and usually they work like any normal barrage so yes

[sharp socket]

so a lv1 0lb UR has a pretty bad crossfleet then

[slow fox]

Okay. I go back to Rudder +10

[whole crypt]

you were asking for perm 640s
all 640s are +13 golds which are base 550 that's all

value and plate costs are a separate issue

[wind hazel]

but i was making the point of them being accessible vs rudder

do you want your chart to be comprehensive or not? +10 vs +13, accessible or limited

if you want the best version, do +10 hp and aux, +13 hp and aux

[slow fox]

I think I want the more accessible version.

So +13 Rudder is perhaps a strenuous assumption.

Plus, I was assuming that any rudder that someone would have is auto +13 LOL

[whole crypt]

all +10 is probably fair since what you're really doing with the chart is comparing the ships' durabilities against each other

it's not like some MMO where you want a strict eHP comparison against content damage

[slow fox]

:mutsukisalute:

[whole crypt]

folks who can afford their +13 rudders can make their own decisions on top of what the chart has anyway

[wind hazel]

well im sure +13 can have some difference in performance...

[slow fox]

I'm calcing the change in relative eHP RN

[wind hazel]

that's why best is to have both +10 and +13 comparison

[slow fox]

You're ruining the runtime

[wind hazel]

do +10 today, do +13 tomorrow

[slow fox]

Oh no

I broke a billion cell references by replacing 49 with 40 in all formulas kms

[soft wind]

is there a way to get coins quick when you're new

other than that

[tender girder]

if i wanted to maximize my chance for purple character per war archive... i should fight all enemies right? not do auto-run (5 mobs, 1 boss).

or do they mainly drop from boss stage?

[peak moat]

How new are we talking?

[soft wind]

not even 1 week into the game new
im like lv43

[peak moat]

What world are you at?

[soft wind]

completed 6

[dreamy blade]

iirc boss has higher odds but the actual numbers arent known

[nimble knoll]

Is Chien Wu Gud?

[zenith heron]

Mid

[slow fox]

Top 20 most affected ships

[peak moat]

Are you oil limited? What is your fleet looking like?

[nimble knoll]

I see

[zenith heron]

Collection and Tech is all I see from her sadly

[nimble knoll]

Sadge.. Atleast I got her from a daily pull

[nocturne glade]

oil limit starts at 9 iirc

[peak moat]

That is oil cap. I’m asking them if they are limited on oil

[nimble knoll]

You need to limit break some or all of em

[peak moat]

Honestly you can get far with that fleet. Just make it a goal to push as hard as you can until 9-1.

[soft wind]

oil count won't like that

[peak moat]

I wouldn’t worry about gold unless you are hard limited. Care more about fleet level. Grind 6-4 for gold and xp if necessary with a reduced fleet

[soft wind]

i can lb i just choose not to

[peak moat]

Don’t lb

[tender girder]

Haha any other opinion on this?

[nimble knoll]

Maximazing oil?

[soft wind]

just not enough gold for researches 😂

[peak moat]

Yes, you only should lb for level cap early on

[soft wind]

mainly the reason why i ask for gold farms lol

[peak moat]

Stop

Do not even look at research until you get to 9-1

[plain saffron]

Just pick any cheap one until you can afford
And please change focus to other season

Season 4 or something

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[soft wind]

you got it

[soft wind]

i have that exact site pulled up 😂

[soft wind]

but this is new

[plain saffron]

I would still look even below 9-1, just not main focus

[peak moat]

Ok I was being a little facetious, just don’t spend money

[plain saffron]

Any research > no research

[peak moat]

Save your gold and plates, refrain from using them for research.

[slow fox]

It's nyaperson

[carmine heath]

What website is this?

[sharp socket]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[peak moat]

Bad advice but go off

[soft wind]

smack this on 4-5-6 and think later?

[cobalt rapids]

and remove ur san rui catchup unless shes d30

[plain saffron]

[wary robin]

what armor type is current Arbiter?

[uncut flower]

Light Armor as for this month.

[rain vine]

5, 6, or 7

[soft wind]

do you have any recommendation for who to put as catchup then

or just pick random

[rain vine]

one of the rainbows in season 6

[worldly pewter]

start with agir i guess

[cobalt rapids]

anchorage

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[white agate]

is there no more a site to check what researches gives more % to get ur blueprints?

[cobalt rapids]

if lyoko is down then no

actually

theres a jp one, lemme see if i can find it

[boreal temple]

Wat was the link for the guide compendium

[worldly pewter]

u need a translator for the jp one
https://pasokau.com/manual_psyencelabo

[jaunty vault]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[sharp echo]

anyone experience this bug where i have the copy but cant use for LB?

[jaunty vault]

the dupe is probably in a guild operation

[white agate]

did you meet the level requirement to lb? i think it was lvl 30 so yes, but check just to be sure, or maybe the ship is in a commission, that too

[sharp echo]

as you can see in the image

[nova solstice]

Who should i pr first Gascogne/Roon?

[sharp echo]

oh i dont remember doing this

[worldly pewter]

if this is ur first then it is roon because it will help getting enough tech for fdg

[left parrot]

I've never seen what it actually looks like to be in a guild 💀

[worldly pewter]

joining a guild is free btw

[left parrot]

I just never bothered doing it lol

[left parrot]

Me personally I would go roon

Tech like abdou said but she's also pretty good with her augment

[sharp echo]

i dont even know what this does lmao

[boreal wagon]

battle support lets other guild members use ur ships for their own boss attempts

[sharp echo]

oh

[nova solstice]

Alright,i'm currently working on anchorage...shes about to finish so i'm thinking who for next pr

[worldly pewter]

look at ur fleets and see what u need the most

[nova solstice]

Alright

[dire pine]

hi everyone, as a returning player that left 4 years ago, how is the current state of the game? is there alot of content to catch up to and is it overwhelming?

i'm considering restarting on a fresh account

[forest palm]

there's 0 reason to start a new account in AL, also Siren Ops, world 13 Hard Mode, world 14, and world 15

[novel solstice]

Keep your existing account -- some ships and progress is better than no ships and progress.

The UI has changed a bit, we've gotten a lot of new ships to powercreep the old ones. We've got a couple new sections of the main campaign, a bunch of old events are archived now if you want to be completionist and pick up their ships, and there's a new game mode called OperationSiren that uses a different resource instead of oil.

[nimble knoll]

Do UR Ships Need More Xp Than SR And Below Ships?

[atomic lagoon]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

that's a pretty sharp drop for china wall wtf

just from 9 less EVA on those 3?

[keen sable]

what would chien do. Who can survive grab the longest in chiens

[nimble knoll]

Should I +10 my gold Hellcat?

[whole crypt]

gold hellcat is fine to +10

[keen sable]

i don't think hvar has a use for you yet

[nimble knoll]

The regular one, not hvar

[keen sable]

did you ever +10 the sea fang?

[nimble knoll]

Nope

[keen sable]

seems ok. show fighters if you want to be sure

[keen sable]

if it makes you finally use aquila, i'm all for it

[whole crypt]

just go for +10, besides that you can use more corsairs

[keen sable]

yes

[nimble knoll]

She's only level 67 doe, and u know I don't have much gear, if I do use Aquila I'll replace Yk2 then

[whole crypt]

drop the +6 hellcat on Aquila for a purple corsair and enhance it

[keen sable]

you have a sea fang and corsair

you also have an hvar, which probably isn't terrible on aquila

[nimble knoll]

Though I don't have enough to 10+ both of em, I'll just 10+ the hellcat doe

[whole crypt]

purple corsair good

if anything I'd ignore the seafang first

[keen sable]

then don't. two +9 better than 1 +10, 1 +6 on aquila

[nimble knoll]

Is this gud to use for my CV's Yet Or Nah?

[whole crypt]

helldiver good

[nimble knoll]

Alrighty +10 the Gold Hellcat and enhance the Corsair

[whole crypt]

Skyraider is quite specifically for bossing

[keen sable]

there was 90% agreement you should use skyraider instead of tenzan...

[nimble knoll]

Oof, don't have enough purples to enhance it past +6 both the Corsair and Sea fang

[nimble knoll]

Huh? When and where-

[whole crypt]

just use corsair

seafang is a dead end corsair has an upgrade

[whole crypt]

for flex slot or what

[nimble knoll]

Should I just replace the Tenzan then?

[nimble knoll]

Probably

[keen sable]

either that or move helldiver to flex. both work

[whole crypt]

helldiver probably, skyraider is slow

[nimble knoll]

Alright ima replace the tenzan

[nimble knoll]

Helldiver to Flex slot?

[whole crypt]

no baraccudas?

[worldly pewter]

TBH at ur stage of the game any combination will work

he has an avenger

[nimble knoll]

Sadly no

[whole crypt]

you could put another fighter

[worldly pewter]

also if yk2 is close to uni in levels u can put the golden hellcat into her third slot

[nimble knoll]

Uni is 110 and yk2 is 102 (Also she leveled up faster than my Portland which is )

[whole crypt]

what chapter and are you actually using/leveling Aquila

[worldly pewter]

didn't unique just tell u right now to not +10

[keen sable]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/460645783021289472/1333451191782346905

[whole crypt]

this works, but I'd stick with Tenzan if it's faster

[nimble knoll]

Well I cant access chapter 8 cuz I need more cmdr levels, and I don't use her yet, cuz people say I shouldn't focus on a 2nd fleet yet

[whole crypt]

launch speed and content relevance

[keen sable]

you can also skyraider aquila go zoom zoom

[keen sable]

tooling around on light armor campaign. this ain't 15-4

[whole crypt]

if anything I'd skyraider Aquila since she can preload it

it's a +5 skyraider, I'd stick with faster launches if the Tenzan is significantly faster

[nimble knoll]

I +6 it

[whole crypt]

which is still very slow

if your Tenzan is +10

if not then maybe

[nimble knoll]

It's a purple Tenzan, it's only +6

[keen sable]

just keep using the avenger then if you care about speed so much...

[whole crypt]

purple avenger is also very slow

[nimble knoll]

Should I just use Aquila for a bit and level her up? Cuz I'm still far away from reaching cmdr level 60, and if Aquila hits level 70 then I can MLB her, or nah?

[whole crypt]

probably

that way you have more ships leveled when you need to put together the second fleet

[worldly pewter]

u want to level at least 1 BB TBH

[nimble knoll]

Should I start leveling my Shimakaze too or only when I can MLB her? (Unless I get another UR and it's better)

[nimble knoll]

I hab retro Nelson to use too

[whole crypt]

just ignore Shimakaze for now, if you don't have UR bulins you're also saving for Feb UR

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[worldly pewter]

uni nelson yk2 is a good linetup to level
when yk2 is at 115 replace her with aquila

[split gazelle]

should I still build shouhou if I have access to unicorn? (beginner)

[whole crypt]

just swap to Aquila now why wait for 115

[nimble knoll]

Should I also enhance Yk2 or Aquila first? (Cuz I maxed Yk2 before but now she needs more-)

[woven star]

you maybe want Shimakaze to level up 120 for tech but mlb questionable. she's not so good

[worldly pewter]

i thought in order to make a boss fleet it should be around that level

[keen sable]

you want both. order is a transient concern. just do it.

calling shima not so good...

[whole crypt]

a boss fleet for what he's not even past ch7

[nimble knoll]

Also in leveling skills, should I level Aquila's healing to max first before starting on her other skills?

[keen sable]

doesn't nn want you to run aquila in db mode?

[whole crypt]

Unicorn is your healer, Aquila should be prioritized for damage first

Aquila secondary heals is for lategame

[keen sable]

but anyways you switch aquila on content

[nimble knoll]

Alright

[keen sable]

there's no such thing as one loadout

[nimble knoll]

I'll just slap on Yk2's Stuff On Aquila then for the time being

[obsidian ivy]

In an Algerie META fleet with biszwei Soyuz nakhi, who fires first? Bis?

[nimble knoll]

Corsair or Hellcat on Aquila? Or well, I can use two corsairs

[keen sable]

what happened to slap on Yk2's Stuff?

[whole crypt]

don't use 2 fighters on Aquila that's her heal mode

[keen sable]

btw what you actually might want to do if you are slaughtering content is using yk2 + aquila and drop uni

[nimble knoll]

Ho2 can I switch then?

[keen sable]

mlb

[whole crypt]

oh can't use DB before MLB?

well just use fighter for the next few levels then

[nimble knoll]

Two corsairs and a Tenzan?

[keen sable]

you're just dragging her. you shouldn't be using full fleets on 7

[nimble knoll]

[keen sable]

uni is way overleveled for the next 5 chapters

[nimble knoll]

Should Aquila just use the two blue catas, so my Yk2 can use The Purple Catapult and Aviation thingy (I don't have enough to level the blue catas Lmao-)

[keen sable]

that's fine

[turbid shell]

is there a place for fleet composition to 1shot Taihou Meta? i want to try copy it

[nimble knoll]

Should I Or Nah?

[keen sable]

no just carry her a bit. sp and 7 and hm should be easy right?

[weary gust]

3 levels makes no difference

[white agate]

he still need those to mlb

[weary gust]

You have no books because you use them all like that. Save them for when they are needed and will make a difference.

[nimble knoll]

Yup

[keen sable]

with unicorn not yk2. btw aquila will greatly improve your vv...

[weary gust]

But he doesn't need her mlb this second. There's nothing urgent going on.

[keen sable]

exactly so why push uni to 120 to slaughter chapter 8?

now IS the time to use Aquila

[weary gust]

Do whatever I guess then. 10 exp books is nothing, I was more making a point about their usage in general because this has become a recurring topic with xeno.

[keen sable]

3 levels makes a difference because mlb

but just carry aquila with unicorn for those levels

[nimble knoll]

I'm using this to beat Hm of the boss, and imo it's faster than using with Uni (The Vanguards didn't even use a chunk of their hp, but when I was using Uni they were losing to 25% or more)

[weary gust]

Speed doesn't matter when doing hardmode. You only run it 3x per day.

[nimble knoll]

Event Hm-

[weary gust]

Oh event hard.

Yeah for single battles you don't want to use healers, better to kill faster. Sustain isn't needed. (Unless very specific things like some CM bosses)

[nimble knoll]

Also should I start using my cards, cuz I have 68 saved up-

[weary gust]

Cards?

[whole crypt]

just spend them all on running hard with bonus

[weary gust]

Ah. If you can't do EX mode then yeah hard mode bonus runs.

[whole crypt]

there's no reason to save them

[keen sable]

they can't. might not even last 15s

[whole crypt]

it's not worth running EX if you can't kill

[nimble knoll]

Couldn't even get the boss down 1 hp bar

[whole crypt]

and it's barely worth if you can

[weary gust]

We still have another week of this event right?

[elfin hollow]

chat I have a question about the upcoming event ship

Implacable is listed as a "support" CV in the ECGC guide. Won't that make her just another Unicorn-ish CV?

[whole crypt]

support doesn't mean heal

[nimble knoll]

A little exaggerated but, I can't even get the boss to lose 5 hp bars before my main fleet dies (that's the only issue I have)

[keen sable]

support damage...

[weary gust]

That'll happen with level disadvantage, and your gear isn't there yet either.

[whole crypt]

it just means her skillset is more oriented towards boosting your fleet than doing her own damage

[keen sable]

kill them, don't die. both are the same thing. one just takes more time

[elfin hollow]

this is my current fleet. would I fare well if I replace Hornet with implacable?

[worldly pewter]

there is a situation where both won't happen neither kill nor die

[weary gust]

If Implacable is mlb.

[keen sable]

you would fair better if you replaced unicorn

[whole crypt]

for EX survivng and killing can be very different in score outcome

[keen sable]

that doesn't answer what support means

[nimble knoll]

Does a ship dealing no Dmg, decrease their Xp Gain? Cuz my Aquila is getting the same amount of Xp as my vangaurds-

[river junco]

Implacable applies slow onto enemies

[whole crypt]

[plain saffron]

Only flagship and mvp gets more exp

[elfin hollow]

oh yeah I saw her listed as slow/stop

so Implac is more on upping my fleet's damage to the enemy vs. Healing like Unicorn?

[keen sable]

and xp buffers and happy ships and not mad ships

[worldly pewter]

and 120+ moral

[weary gust]

call to arms

[nimble knoll]

Oh wait, I'm dumb, I settled VV to flagship and Yk2 got MVP, so that was the reason as to why my other Main ships got more Xp

[keen sable]

richy ticket boost