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[forest palm]

still better than light

[nimble knoll]

Black or white shell first? (From core shop)

[forest palm]

either way they're side grades, the 406/50 MLE, the MK1 B37, and 380 MLE are basically around the same damage, and can be used to adjust timing

[elfin hollow]

What should I look out for in W14?

[soft raft]

lots of torps
and bulkier suicide boats

Submarines show up in 14-3 and 14-4 as well

[forest palm]

ASW Aux Plane, and Hedgehog will help with subs

though this is for mob, you don't have to worry about subs on boss

[tulip zenith]

What should I use proto cores on

I already got the tenrai

[eternal moth]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[tulip zenith]

Wait is saiun Kai good

[eternal moth]

It's fairly low priority, but it's not bad.

[tulip zenith]

If I have some ryuseis I don’t need it right

[supple wing]

I’m struggling with the daily trainings, it’s only level 60 but the boss is level100 and I just run out of time. Will I struggle until my ships reach around level100 to match the boss?

[jaunty vault]

you'll probably struggle at level 100 ships too

[tulip zenith]

Oh wait I just realized I have 2 saiun kais already

[eternal moth]

You'll want a mix of junkers, ryusei and saiun eventually for timing purposes, but it's not top priority. That's why it's on the third level

[forest palm]

there's a 4th TB now the Mod VIT2

[jaunty vault]

that lvl60 stage refers to your commander level and it unlocks at that level

[nimble knoll]

Where can I get more of these-

[supple wing]

Oh is the daily just meant to be that hard? I figured it’d be something you’re meant to farm daily like some games have. But if it’s expected that’s fine

[jaunty vault]

its not hard, you're just under levelled and undergeared

[jaunty vault]

any campaign stage
also event stages

[supple wing]

Ahh I see. I’m terrible when it comes to gear so I definitely have to work on all that.

[woven star]

which ship with preload main gun below Alsace in tier list? Because I'm thinking to make Flandre

[eternal basalt]

You only need to S once

[nimble knoll]

Does the Event Hm boss drop blues?

[jaunty vault]

if it drops purple, it drops blue too

[eternal moth]

You generally only want one preload at a time.

[nimble knoll]

I never saw it drop blues for me tho

[eternal moth]

Most of the French BBs have a preload. If you're looking at the tier list, just choose the preload option

[woven star]

I don't have Alsace so looking for equivalent

[eternal moth]

Go to the tier list and click Ship Filters and then Fast Loader to see who has preload/fast load

[atomic abyss]

richelieu is the next best easily available option

[supple wing]

Sorry but where do you go for information like that?

[eternal moth]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[supple wing]

Thanks!

[nimble knoll]

Bro-
WHY DOES THE HM EVENT BOSS ONLY GIVE ME PURPLE PLATES-
is there any stage that like, Gives out Blues when completed? (Cuz I ain't getting em from the hm boss smh)

[woven star]

Vittorio Veneto or Flandre. Flandre looks more easy to get and little better

[eternal moth]

Campaign stages give you a mix of plates as well.

[nimble knoll]

Blue plates are much easier to get than purples right?

[eternal moth]

lolno

[nimble knoll]

What.

[soft raft]

Flandre's better but in the long run they're both easily benched

[eternal moth]

Apparently theyre about the same, actually. I thought purples were more common

[worldly pewter]

are u really complaining about purples aux plates drop ?

[white agate]

well, there is also the part where you burn purple faster than blues

[nimble knoll]

I have 100+ purple general parts.. But I only have 8 blue ones-

[barren tapir]

uhh what?

oh actuall shit yeah fair. i struggled massively w blue aux/plane/gun parts for like 1-2 weeks very early on

itll pass. theres no real way to 'fix' it except time.

[woven star]

I know. Looking fast burst ship for Yamato gun

[eternal moth]

The only 2 ships that can really make use of it are UvH and Champagne

[woven star]

until get Alsace

[nimble knoll]

Just why.. I did another 15 clear and no blue drop..

[eternal moth]

Yamato gun is extremely niche and not usually worth using

[worldly pewter]

the only struggle i remember was the purple aux plates i remember even when i wanted to attempt the w15 i was having deficit after 8 months

[eternal moth]

You know after the first 15 your rewards drop quite a bit right?

[stark quiver]

i had a plate struggle back in 2022

[woven star]

not sure about Champagne but let it be

[spring bolt]

ch 13 and beyond don't hava blue plates

[white agate]

i buy white plates with medals since they are the rarest and i tend to do 1h research plates

[nimble knoll]

...

[woven star]

so I'm looking for this niche a ship)

[barren tapir]

...i dont have purple plate issue anymore, i have like 1k spare as backup

[nimble knoll]

I need more blue general parts.. Most of the other parts I have a lot of.. But general parts.. Are my lowest-

[woven star]

niche of 2 max 3 fire salvos in short period of time

[stark quiver]

as per suual

[spring bolt]

wait, mb, not blue but white plate...

[eternal moth]

Why are you trying to build around yamato gun?

[spring bolt]

but hm13 drops white plates
devs are so random

[woven star]

Pvp team. My pvp team. I know there is tab for pvp. But I'll try my niche way

[soft raft]

[stark quiver]

youre gonna die

[dusky fiber]

What's the Yamato gun?

[soft raft]

Triple 460mm

[woven star]

I'm fine with Strasbourg but looking something better while have time

[mellow cape]

Surprisingly I find it harder to get white plates vs the purple/blue plates

💀

[eternal moth]

Nah, that's common

[dusky fiber]

Ah, thanks

[eternal moth]

I have about 20k purples and only a couple thousand whites, the white ones aren't nearly as common

[mellow cape]

Oh I see, my inventory is almost skewed 5:1 for blue to whites / purple to whites

[eternal moth]

Sounds about right

[woven star]

Waiting to upgrade lower plata

Maybe sometime they make patch

[soft raft]

tf did I get blocked by Voltic
I cant react to his messages

[mellow cape]

and nearly 3-5k in whites

[soft raft]

highly doubt that

[stark quiver]

Skill diff blaster

[soft raft]

not my fault his grammar is dogshit

[stark quiver]

Anyways I’m late to class
Cya

[mellow cape]

Tbh when the answers here can be given by reactions, blocking seems ill effective here

[woven star]

You to toxic for me. But sometimes I saw what you say)

[ivory pawn]

In fairness, bringing it up every time he speaks might be a little excessive.

[worldly pewter]

i never saw blaster being toxic in the past

[mellow cape]

[soft raft]

I've only commented on that like twice
And ngl part of it is genuine concern since sometimes what he says is absoltutely unintelligible

[molten zinc]

[worldly pewter]

sometimes seeing a broken language all the time can be irritating to a degree
but also the manners to push the person to go learn the language is also important

[mellow cape]

Side note, how many gold plates for +13 dr

[dusky fiber]

360

[molten zinc]

360

[soft raft]

^

[ivory pawn]

Huh, for some reason I thought you’ve said it more. Maybe I conflated you for someone else, mb.

[mellow cape]

I rarely max a Dr so I want to plan around LA9 +13

[molten zinc]

run 4-airstrike => no rainbow needed

[soft raft]

I dont think +13 would even really help with RLD

[keen sable]

plane doesn't

[vestal carbon]

did limited Secrets memory will rerun ?

[keen sable]

autoloaders and oxytorps do

[mellow cape]

Oh should +10 is fine

[soft raft]

Yes
Kashino and Chen hai's reran last week

[keen sable]

imo deader is better

[molten zinc]

18% more dmg is still dmg

you can never have enough more dmg

[keen sable]

it's dps. completely different from +13 a bearcat, 12a, or even flapjack

[vestal carbon]

how long does it usually take to rerun ? 3 month ?

[keen sable]

don't mind me. secrets question

[vestal carbon]

sound:0:5

[molten zinc]

ah right I forgot discord now have sound emote

[vestal carbon]

*soundmoji

[soft raft]

definetly not 3 months lol
Kashino secrets was when PR6 came out (July 2023) and Chen Hai was.... I dont remember when but prob somewhere simillar to Kashino

[vestal carbon]

oh yeah you were right, 2 years ago

[white agate]

i didn't know the rainbow gear could be an elite catnode drop instead of a sr one
i mean i found it with the purple paw instead of the orange one

[sweet delta]

Each item has a "value" made up by the devs, and the color of the paw depends on the sum of the "values"

[white agate]

and i guess the colulour of the paw gets its % from cat level,cat rarity and rng?

[soft raft]

???

Uh have you taken a look at the channel name yet

[molten zinc]

Oh wait

[sweet delta]

We didn't know if cats affect the distribution of drops, but they do affect the number of drops per cat node. And like level 20 SR cats is already enough to get the maximum number of drops per cat node

*We don't know

[stark quiver]

What blueprints did virtual tower sp1 drop

[dawn geyser]

anyone know a good guide for world 13 HM?

[stark quiver]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[stark quiver]

Use fleets here

[molten zinc]

wait...why NC augment is here

[stark quiver]

I was gonna change it, but no clue what it dropped so yea

[molten zinc]

lemme dig

[plain saffron]

prob from template

[molten zinc]

from the CN wiki

[coral elk]

Hmm, how the hell would you gear Kronk against a light armored boss, which we should have in OpSi?

[hollow gust]

Just run normal tank, that's her only purpose

[plain saffron]

i mean you can just go see at the stage, since it's stage 1

[coral elk]

I didn't mean aux wise, I meant gun wise

[atomic abyss]

there's only 1 HE CB gun, which is the azuma gun
which isnt really worth crafting imo

[coral elk]

Oh, yeah, so I guess I sacrifice the secondary gun for the SN gun skill req?

[worldly pewter]

why are u min maxing a CB damage ?

[coral elk]

Oath

[atomic abyss]

tash gun is an option i suppose

[keen sable]

it's not like chappy is bad

[coral elk]

I wouldn't do that for any other tank I currently use, lmao

[sweet delta]

And more

[plain saffron]

wow nice internet

[molten zinc]

[atomic abyss]

is that a russian AA gun lol

[viscid swift]

Yes

[soft raft]

Her secondary slot is CL only

[atomic abyss]

i forgot

shows how much i use kron (never basically, is there any need to even?)

[molten zinc]

crossfleet buff for BB in OpSi

[keen sable]

there's png conflicts between gear and augs

or rather maybe id conflicts

[forest palm]

crossfleet buffs are so small in what they actually accomplish, to where crossfleet barrages end up being more effective imo

[atomic abyss]

isnt indeps relatively impactful

[jaunty vault]

what are we relating it to

[forest palm]

it is, and they're exceptions of course, but on the whole you're not using majority of ships with crossfleet for their crossfleet buffs, or barrage

[atomic abyss]

i mean
doesnt indep's x fleet make it easier to achieve 4 strike CVs?
in that sense

[jaunty vault]

i think 4 strike CV is pretty easy to achieve in opsi
battles are relatively longer compared to META

but ig indep does make it easier for plebs

[forest palm]

on the low end it certainly does make sense

[frosty slate]

Any good team comps for the advanced challenge of the event?

[whole crypt]

4 strike CV isn't hard it's just not very practical

the bosses that you'd want to try squeezing out damage with 4 strikes tend to have the nasty habit of ending your fight in some way before the 4th strike

[sweet delta]

Typical throw rainbows at the problem, with a tanky ship in the offtank position. Bonus if you bring Eldridge as the main or off tank

[slow fox]

<3

[wary skiff]

wow san diego takes a lot of bullins

but shes so ugly

[atomic abyss]

pretty sure all the UR retros besides yuudachi take 3 bulins for retro

[wary skiff]

damn

[storm heron]

u know who else's ugl?

[wary skiff]

queen elizabeth

[atomic abyss]

the next person that starts an off-topic banter

[strong tartan]

roasted

[tulip zenith]

can someone help me make a main fleet for farming 12-2 fast, my vanguard will be yat sen chang chun an shan

[forest palm]

why 12-2 specifically

[white agate]

did you bring 12-2 to safe 20% dmg reduction first?

[tulip zenith]

cuz the boss is light armor and im using ddgs

[white agate]

do you have unicorn in the fleet?

[forest palm]

no, like why are you specifically farming 12-2 of all things, especially since you're on Safe

[tulip zenith]

cuz i have up to 13-1

and 12-2 is the highest one with light armor boss

and im tryna get harbin

[white agate]

do 12-1; that is the best exp to oil ratio, also the easiest 12 chapter level(no point trying to get vanguard mvp anyway too much of an hurdle)

[tulip zenith]

alright thx

holy shit yeah i just tried 12-2 and 2 of my vanguards just got absolutely touched by the torps 😭

on the boss

[sweet delta]

Are you using two fleets?

[little tree]

After second tenari and all are fs5 im good to swap to pr5?

<@&472236072743600148>

[white agate]

admin is no more pingable?

[stark quiver]

Ight bet

[sonic breach]

/ban @granite mason scam

[odd root]

aemanthefox#0 got banned. Reason: scam

[stark quiver]

Addie they’re in most channels btw

[sweet delta]

After second tenrai is the latest you should stay in 4

[white agate]

i think this is a perfect starting cat? or did i want a rainbow talent too? i mean they are obtainable as 4th talent too in case no?

[stark quiver]

Not perfect but good

[little tree]

Sweet 2 prints away

[sweet delta]

It's perfect

Reroll for flame plus the CV officer or reload, whichever you're missing

[white agate]

so rainbow talent is still rollable as 4th talent, they are not necessarly in the starting 3 ight?

[storm heron]

ban

[tame jungle]

jfc

[sweet delta]

<@&460646206851252224>

[atomic abyss]

another one?

tf

[sonic breach]

/ban 413939016229191700 scam

[odd root]

zahran2702#0 got banned. Reason: scam

[storm heron]

finally I can see one of the scam message

[charred pollen]

Please do not click any of these links.

[tame jungle]

but i love clicking links :(

[worldly pewter]

ender in the #bot-spam the message is still there

[undone plover]

yeah

[sweet delta]

Ure looking to end on one of these. Destiny can replace the level 2 reload or level 2 avi, but flame and officer are required

[storm heron]

time to reroll my flame bisha?

[forest palm]

cats sure are fun

[eager mulch]

[little tree]

What aux for her ?

[eager mulch]

Seal of the four gods and a tool box

[sweet delta]

Depends what for

[little tree]

I'm using them for opsi mabey for arbiter if I can level in time

[sweet delta]

For arbiter, use the seal and another HP like toolkit or RPG

[hollow gust]

Never liked DDG in Arby

[little tree]

~~ i have 1 hvar and a skyraider for ant light im on budget ~~

[stark quiver]

Bfg

[hollow gust]

La-9

[tender girder]

for SS, if i have archerfish, and U96... which submarine team should i build toward?

[little tree]

~~ if only I had one ~~

[tame jungle]

keep on collecting until you can actually use submarines

[tender girder]

nah. just wondering whether i should spend merit to collect the purple KMZ subs, or get stronger ones like albacore or U37

[tame jungle]

when in doubt don't spend your resources (general advice)
the purple subs are not good

[keen sable]

It's still a year before flasher. Make of that what you will.

Cavalla is "free" until then I suppose

[sweet delta]

How many years before homura?

[keen sable]

Aqua aug first

Just do a madoka collab. We even have a kuyby already

[chrome fiber]

Halo is the new banner worth pull. I've taken a 2 month break. Have i gone missing on something

[stark quiver]

1 light pull a day

[eager mulch]

how much longer is the LNY event

[white agate]

since i don't think other ssr cats than steel can get ss talents, are there no other cat than bishamaru besides the elite ones who can get avi talents?

[white agate]

till 5th februrary i think, then blucher

[sweet delta]

Cats can get most talents. Cats can't start with most talents. Bishamaru and Steel are the only SR CV and SS cats respectively.

[stark quiver]

What’s this cat for

[stark quiver]

not the rainbow cat

[sweet delta]

Freshly renamed

[copper ermine]

for project identity what does any intermediate life experience mean

[inland shoal]

Check pins in #1204845559790440488

The pin is beginner, but it's just the same thing at one tier higher

Oh wow this chat was ded for almost an hour

[copper ermine]

I found out eventually

[storm heron]

pretty common nowadays tbh

become ectl-level activity

[turbid marsh]

dead event = dead week, and reruns. probably be like this until feb UR XD

[white agate]

also this is a hyperdead week since event basically started like 2 weeks ago

[slow fox]

SOTG over toolbox because additional 50 to 100 HP worse than fp buff?

[sweet delta]

eDPS > eHP

[slow fox]

delusional

[little tree]

[fiery raptor]

oh wait torp aux?

i thought it was the green donut.

i don't trust the rainbow bilbo on dd above world 13
on subs yeah but not dd

[storm heron]

what determines affinity gain in a battle?

only mvp?

[soft raft]

If it were just MvP, it would take fucking forever

Iirc a ship gets like 1/16th(?) a affinity point per fight and extra if they MvP

[white agate]

Using shipgirls in battle (except Exercises or Operation Siren) will raise their affinity by approximately 0.0625 (0.125 if MVP) per battle

then there are dorm affinity and secretary main slot

[vale stirrup]

everyone gets 1/16th of 1 point for participating in a fight, doubled if mvp so 1/8th

[fiery raptor]

dorm affinity is fixed now? its not just a visual doodad anymore?

[white agate]

it's visual iirc, you need to tap the heart every time

[vale stirrup]

I'm pretty sure they're referring to a somewhat frequently said claim from years ago where tapping the dorm hearts didn't actually give any affinity even though that's what it always said

[storm heron]

is there no oil-less battle to get affinity?

[white agate]

idk, try something that is not opsi or excercises and see if the after battle screen loads hearts if it does not it means the activity does not give affinity

[storm heron]

lol

well good thing it's only 15 per battle

[eager mulch]

[vale stirrup]

pretty sure anything that doesn't cost oil doesn't affect mood or affinity

[white agate]

best option if you are rising a oathed ship imo would be to use a 1:1 fleet for farming events with her till she hits 200 affinity

else level 120 is more than sufficient to reach 100

[keen sable]

it does something. whether it's different or whether you like it is something else

[storm heron]

true

[fiery raptor]

naw thought it just did the heart animations and didn't actually add to affinity

[storm heron]

mahan looks good

[keen sable]

conceptually a lot of the early claims are probably bs. if they were even achieved empirically it wasn't very rigorous.

[fiery raptor]

kear is 110 from dorm alone and is still in friendly

[storm heron]

idk tbh

1 + mvp for 18 vs 3 + mvp for 25

[keen sable]

a dice roll does

[white agate]

out of curiosity, how much does it take on average to get a 50/50 on a rainbow gear by focusing on gear research?

[keen sable]

i have uhh 2.5 la-9 and have rotten luck supposedly

[storm heron]

apparently true, I raise 3 at the same time and make sure soyuzu mvp. However Magi still at 100, but Nyakhimov's at 101

[white agate]

does that mean you are lucky or not? i can't detect if there was sarcasm

[keen sable]

i'm going to put in the wiki that doggo supports my conclusion

[storm heron]

the highest is 3 right now

[keen sable]

I think I am unlucky. I feel like shippers claimed they had 2 same time I had 2

shippers = people who prioritize ships

[storm heron]

la-9 shippers

[turbid marsh]

2.5 is unlucky? dang im at the same boat as you then

[storm heron]

what do you call 1.6?

[keen sable]

a snail?

did you start on time?

[storm heron]

I went back to do kear and hinden

[nocturne glade]

now that DR4 coinup is out, is doing fdg first still the best?

[turbid marsh]

i would say so for backliners tbh

[keen sable]

maybe you need fdg to reach agir

[fiery raptor]

is it worth to go back and get odin and ruppy and finish my 30/50 tenrai or should i push VII once i fate 5 flandre?

[nocturne glade]

Guess I'll do agir

[storm heron]

the only reason you can afford not to do fdg is if you have 2 UR BBs already

[keen sable]

anything with coining should be offlimits

[nocturne glade]

nvm then I guess ill do fdg

[storm heron]

the only reason to go back is gear to make sure prints are not wasted imo

[keen sable]

20 bp might take you 2 months if unlucky. prioritiy should be to be done with everything by 8

[storm heron]

going back for a coinable ship is no good

[fiery raptor]

yeah prio iv for tenrai while i coin odin and ruppy

[keen sable]

tenrai in gear lab...

[fiery raptor]

it is ?

[left cedar]

kinda, 20d~for tenrai in Gearlab

[keen sable]

it will be

[fiery raptor]

oh just wait okay gocha

[storm heron]

2 tenrais is the latest you can stay there

[left cedar]

so ... focus on it missing 20bp is kinda 40d~ ...

[fiery raptor]

i have 3 tenrai...so i guess vii it is

[storm heron]

just go VII then

[forest palm]

we'll be able to get more Tenrai in like 23 days

[keen sable]

and 0 la-9?

tenrai so good i use 0 tenrai on meta right now

[left cedar]

i have few Tenrais already ... but not even close to all my waifus CVs ... so w8 4 it on gearlab to mass produce it, cuz i can and i wanna my waifus shining as they deserve ...

but isnt needed, not even worth it for begginers and mid players, cuz is gona be expenssive

[forest palm]

still sad we're getting another UR AA Gun

[fiery raptor]

which faction?

[forest palm]

HMS

[white agate]

will romba be in gear lab too?
or it stays in protocore

[left cedar]

hoping for a FP UR AA GUN

[forest palm]

er USS my bad

[storm heron]

AA gun?

[fiery raptor]

CIWS UR aa gun

[forest palm]

if anything it's an upgraded ver of this

[storm heron]

wait does it actually gives 35 hit

[fiery raptor]

yeah the radar version

[storm heron]

wait what really, cuz someone actually predicted UR AA 35 hit before

[keen sable]

you probably mean something else?

[fiery raptor]

no not the 35 hit, it's the mk33 76 but with radar idk about stat

[white agate]

i meant the sardigna empire aa gun from pr4, is romba another thing?

[forest palm]

it's the 76mm RF Mk37, what I posted is an image of the Mk27

[viscid swift]

However, its complex nature resulted in a long development cycle and by the time it was ready for service use in 1956 the usefulness of antiaircraft shellfire was limited. In addition, the mounting proved to be so unreliable and hard to maintain that it was quickly withdrawn from duty and may have had the shortest service life of any weapon system ever used by the US Navy.

ah yes, UR AA gun

[left cedar]

w8, RN in gearlab ?

[dreamy blade]

this is what people refer to as the roomba https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_113mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

we need a roomba sticker like for rudders

[forest palm]

• 76mm連装RF砲 Mk37 USS
• 試作型FW-190 G-3/R1 KMS
• フェアリーガネット(対潜) (some ASW plane)
  

[fiery raptor]

gannet its the fat wyvern

[left cedar]

more rocket plane for KMS ? dafuk

[forest palm]

it's a FW so it could be anything lol

[ivory pawn]

Yes, RN in gear lab next week or whenever it was.

[left cedar]

dafuk Italians coming to Gearlab b4 SN its ... strange

[dreamy blade]

it's their compromise for never releasing a UR italian boat

[storm heron]

15 sortie: 102-100-101
45 sortie: 107-103-103

[left cedar]

but historically accurate, since mostly of advanced ships of SN are stealed from RN

[forest palm]

well PR4 is getting decom'd which means the Twin 90mm an Italian AA gun needs to go somewhere

[fiery raptor]

bofors duty as placeholder

[white agate]

pls go in gearlab so i can build them

[left cedar]

i get considerable mad with Nap, cuz she is literally a Deutschland hull, but with Italian tech, and they made her a DR boat ... that makes me true mad, w8 4 redemption with Scheer

[forest palm]

oh, right Marco's gun is a thing...I forget she exists sometimes

[abstract crag]

Marco?

[forest palm]

Marco Polo

[fiery raptor]

sap gun

[forest palm]

you'll never use this thing so it's ignorable

[abstract crag]

No just respond with "Polo" 😡

[left cedar]

polo its 4 letters, make it MP and i buy it

[forest palm]

anyway that's all that's on the docket for Gear Lab update

[left cedar]

probally it will be some gears of RN here and there, like Frenchs have

[white agate]

yeah, i crafted it yesterday beliving it was the gun for agir and was not able to find it
their image is so similar man

[keen owl]

Which AA gun is the Meta for non carry Shipgirls right now?

[forest palm]

the 305, and 1940 mle looking so similar is hilarious

[left cedar]

UR, Twin 90 or QBs mostly
Roomba strategy wanna them with it, so all with Roomba

[viscid swift]

57mm

[forest palm]

or a 134, or a staag, it depends

[left cedar]

134 is for BB Fleets since planes dosnt matter (in meta fights...)
Staag is copium for TRP Focused ships cuz hit can crit ...

[fiery raptor]

134 or staag for ddg?

[forest palm]

134 is just whenever AA isn't a problem, doesn't matter the fleet

I lean towards STAAG for DDG

[keen owl]

The rainbow one is expensive. The price for meta i guess

[left cedar]

i dont see 134 working for ships like Shima or Kaza ... since they FP stats dosnt mean almost nothing to them

[storm heron]

will 134 be better for fu shun then?

cause the whole crit thingy

[left cedar]

also 134 dont works much from non dmg dealers
example, Portland with 134 is almost no change in DPS, if u are literally in a huge pile of resourcers without use, ok, go wild and craft 40 of them and use everywhere, but isnt needed for them

[white agate]

i still don't understand why i found somewhere idr where, but people said something like giving the aa gun with the most dps to the best aa ship; i don't understand isn't aa just the sum of all the ships aa guns and then applied in the center of the vanguard moving image?

[forest palm]

it's really simple 134 for Gun Boats, STAAG for TRP'ers

if AA is a concern Gun Boats switch to 57s

[viscid swift]

Well reload and range are averaged across the fleet

[white agate]

yep, but it still does not explain why giving the best aa gun to the best aa ship

[dreamy blade]

dmg is affected by aa stat and aa gun efficiency which is highest on the best aa ship

[viscid swift]

The idea is the better AA guns scales better on the better AA ship for damage

And on ships with worse AA you can use them to do stat padding

[barren tapir]

you use the best aa ship to bulk up dmg and everyone else bulks up range

[viscid swift]

Hence why CN reccs roombas on main fleets for W15 while the vanguard runs 57s

[white agate]

yep, but since aa is averaged it shouldn't matter who has the gun(unless hit or fp), maybe it's a slot efficiency thing like card stated?

[keen sable]

damage is not averaged. range and rof are

[weary gust]

Damage is summed. Speed and range are averaged.

[white agate]

yeah, then it makes sense for the best dps aa to go to the best aa ship

[barren tapir]

aa is averaged yes, but dmg is first based on ship and then summed

so for exampke

150 dmg on a ship with 200 AA and 100% efficiency + 100 dmg on a ship with 500 AA and 200% efficiency (basic example) = 450 + 1200 = 1650 dmg

but 150 dmg on a ship with 500 AA and 200% eff + 100 dmg on a ship with 200 AA and 100% eff = 1800 + 300 = 2100 dmg

[keen sable]

so shitty ship with 0 damage gets infinitely fast gun making ship with high damage infinitely fast giving you infinite dps. but of course such a fast gun doesn't exist and aa cooldown is simply atrocious.

[barren tapir]

aa cd is ass so ppl tend to use range instead, ergo roombas

[dreamy blade]

(especially on auto)

[nimble knoll]

Is the Torp that u can get from the event gud?

[weary gust]

It's alright.

[dreamy blade]

going for range is just much more consistent

[viscid swift]

Not really

[tame jungle]

the torp no
the missile yes

[inland shoal]

AA cd is just as bad on manual

[keen sable]

sometimes it's good but not for you

[nimble knoll]

Oomf

[inland shoal]

It also has an absurdly high fixed cd that would remain even if we had a gun with 0 reload time

[dreamy blade]

i just mean range can be less of a factor on manual when your vanguard isnt running away from planes half the time

[inland shoal]

Yes I was just teasing you. Though imo even on manual range is preferable so you don't have to go running after planes all the time

[blissful hamlet]

which is better for gear research, 1.5h grant donation or 4h grant donation?

[inland shoal]

4h

[keen sable]

maybe ur will be first 36 range also

[blissful hamlet]

[weary gust]

Are we getting a new UR AA gun?

[viscid swift]

yep, with the next gear lab update

USN 76mm Mk37

[inland shoal]

We're also getting 2 gear lab updates a year from now on, in uhh July and December I think they said?

[viscid swift]

yep

well, June not July

[blissful hamlet]

did they actually said that or are you speculating?

[viscid swift]

they did actually say that in the annoucement

want a link?

[blissful hamlet]

so if next update is in february, we'll get 2 more update this year?

[viscid swift]

probably

[inland shoal]

That would be quite the confident speculation
Yes we should get 2 more updates this year, don't think they said anything about skipping one cuz of Feb now

Probably this Feb update counts as last year's Dec update

[blissful hamlet]

I sure love it when my update are 3 months late

[forest palm]

I mean... Gear Lab updates have always been biannual, nice to see the devs kind of just make it official

[nimble knoll]

Does this also affect Yk2?

[blissful hamlet]

we don't get any update last year

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

forgetting about the Mk7 apparently

[blissful hamlet]

event limited update doesn't count

[forest palm]

that's some mental gymnastics

[fervent hazel]

reactions say no but i dont know why it wouldnt
it just doesnt stack

[viscid swift]

also forgetting about the spearfish

[hollow gust]

hes too stingy to get them

i have been swapping my wyverns over for spearfish recently

[blissful hamlet]

spearfish :ranchChamp:

[nimble knoll]

I see

[tame jungle]

yorktown 2 is an essex class
it says "decreases it for your OTHER essex-class CVs"

[fervent hazel]

oh lmao

[keen sable]

yorkii is not a yorktown and is not an other essex

[storm heron]

is amagi amagi class

[keen sable]

should have been unryuu smh

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

reading comprehension

[tame jungle]

easy enough to miss

[storm heron]

[solid kite]

So im a bit confused on the skin sharing function regarding oath skins...i heard just about every variant from different people and i have no idea how it works still...does it require oath on both ships, just base ship or just alt ship?

[soft raft]

if you mean Amagi CV, she's her theroetical CV conversion hadnt a Earthquake fucked her up

[keen sable]

none of those. oath ship

[solid kite]

Yeah but which ship

[keen sable]

the one you want to oath

the oathed ship gets the skin. no one else.

[solid kite]

I did read the wiki, it doesnt really make it clear. For example i want york2 to wear york's wrdding skin. Do i just wed york2 and get the skin or do i need york wed to "unlock" it first

[keen sable]

you just oath yorkii and then move beach to yorki

[solid kite]

So i just oath york2 and get the skin btw make me elite when?

[keen sable]

uhh wanna be an officer? don't do anything i might regret

[solid kite]

I just want nicer color

[keen sable]

one minute, reading murm's story, done.

[nimble knoll]

Oh-

[grand solar]

Is there an issue with downloading things as I clicked to download the latest one and it still says checking for updates.

[barren tapir]

nah range is excellent so you can hide and dodge stuff and facetorp and still passively kill all planes lol

but also aa in general on manual is less strict because you can fully utilize airstrikes as AA support

[sweet delta]

I don't think that makes sense. They have nearly the same damage and just a 20 AA difference. +20 AA is nice for vanguard to do more damage, but +20 AA on main is nice-er to just reduce damage. Why not put the long reload gun on the high RLD vanguard ship for better average reload? And roombas are easier to +13, so for poor people more damage on vanguard is even better.

[sweet delta]

Replying to this was lost

[stark quiver]

We still talking abt the AA situation

[viscid swift]

not quite sure tbh, I haven't read CN's reasoning exactly but I think it has something to do with the preference for higher alpha or something

[fiery raptor]

does aa just hit everything in the circle at once per "shot" or is each plane individually targeted?

[sweet delta]

All planes in the circle are damaged at the same time

Fuze AA guns and airplane AA guns work the same way, they hit all planes within a circle

[little tree]

Should i put PLY gun on a BB or momo ?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the fleet and enemy. Momo can use the single 150mm

[fiery raptor]

from watching my w15 fights i kinda get why nuclear aa alpha sounds good (i ran staag 57s and sextuples only no roombas) instablamming the stacked plane clouds would be great, but is it even possible to ohko that much plane hp...

even with tracing they would still have a little bit of hp at the backline with guam laffii and sandiego in the same fleet

[sweet delta]

The more planes in the circle, the more damage you do

But doing more damage to more planes is not necessarily better. Doing enough damage to completely kill a few planes is also good

[stark quiver]

4 sextuple

[sweet delta]

But that doesn't happen anyways unless you have like a stack of 3 BB with fuze guns, and in that case you have bigger problems

[fiery raptor]

yeah was wondering if building for alpha would be enough to kill w15 planes in one reload cycle

[sweet delta]

So more range = more total damage

[fiery raptor]

yeah my 57 staag and sextuple only had edge issues with their cicle size

[stark quiver]

well youre getting slapped wave after wave, so having speed is highly important

[barren tapir]

you probably want to get 2 shots off

[fiery raptor]

particularly when you're on auto

[sweet delta]

It's an endless stream of planes, as long as youre shooting and hitting a decent number of planes, it's good

[barren tapir]

idk tho cos from what i could tell, cv and support intercept plays a massive role in total aa anyway. vg aa is just one factor (a big one tho)

your supports are firing off every 8-10s or so, your cvs every 10-11s, and your airstrikes every 20-22s add up to a lot of total aa from non-gun sources

[stark quiver]

can vangaurd solo AA 15/4 on lethal

[fiery raptor]

the ship or the frontline

[sweet delta]

Idk what that means, but I beat 15-4 lethal auto with zero AA guns equipped

[stark quiver]

frontline ofc

[barren tapir]

wait how and also i want to see video

[stark quiver]

no support fleet, la9s on cvs

[sharp socket]

suchi what in the heavens

[barren tapir]

i guess it is still using ghost aa guns tho from skills etc?

[fiery raptor]

i believe it if the tradeoff is massive surface dps

the faster you kill boats the less you have to put up with plane bullshit

the planes ramp up over time so the faster you clear the fleets the less planes to fight

[barren tapir]

what, like hinden unzen ply or

[sharp socket]

do you just murder the map at a blinding speed such that you dont need AA

[fiery raptor]

yeah ply hinden in particular.

[barren tapir]

the planes do eventually run out tho actually kek

[fiery raptor]

i dropped jda for more damage and i took less damage

[stark quiver]

you can theoretically run 1:1 for w15

[barren tapir]

[soft raft]

[sweet delta]

Hammii doesn't have a ghost AA gun right?

[fiery raptor]

guam laffii and sandy with sexys and 57 would not kill all planes within the S rank window

[sweet delta]

https://youtu.be/mOGqo89FHvw

[fiery raptor]

i thought hammii had 2 mounts

[soft raft]

Doesnt look like it

2 AA mounts tho

[barren tapir]

well yeah, it takes about 2.5 mins for stage planes to run out

[fiery raptor]

i think it's the sumners (like laffii) have the ghost aa

[barren tapir]

hamm2 has ghost asw but not aa

[sweet delta]

💀 terrible mic noise

[stark quiver]

do u have a seperate mic?
or just headphone mic

[sweet delta]

Only if you actually kill them

[fiery raptor]

run out as in stop stacking or actually 0 them out

if you don't kill planes in the circle ,they come back?

[barren tapir]

yeah ofc u gotta kill them, unkilled planes loop indefinitely

[fiery raptor]

i thought they kamikaze into the backline

[sweet delta]

99% of Commanders Don't Know These Top 10 Secrets!

[barren tapir]

they do, and then they come again w/ the next wave with whatever hp they had left iirc

[sweet delta]

Nope, full HP every time

[stark quiver]

13 seconds

[barren tapir]

oh full hp damn

[sweet delta]

But there's no difference in the number of planes at a time until you kill a whole stack

[barren tapir]

so ye then killing as many as possible is very important so they stack up less

[sweet delta]

Each stack only sends N number of planes at once

[barren tapir]

the more planes at once the less dmg spread you do to each individual plane or something, i forgot the details

[fiery raptor]

is that boss 3 or just mobbing

[barren tapir]

ahh okay. but it leaves more hanging in the wings, doesnt it?

[barren tapir]

boss 3

[fiery raptor]

pretty good backline health for a kill at 13 seconds left, my volga would die long before then zwei yorkii volga, brest ply ancho

[sweet delta]

~~Most impressive part was playing manual plane hell on BlueStacks ~~

[fiery raptor]

oh i auto i only press to call subs

[stark quiver]

what a pc does to a mf

[barren tapir]

thats what having 5 aa carries does

and 4 healing ships

[sweet delta]

unicorn is aa carry

[barren tapir]

and manual ofc

[stark quiver]

is nana a aa carry

[barren tapir]

all cv with heavy fighter/tb lean are aa carries on manual cos you can airstrike to directly counter enemy waves

strategy for boss 3 i used was use 1 airstrike for stage planes, then 2 airstrikes for zuikaku plane wave, repeat. synced perfectly and only issue was low surface dmg cos her AA is fucking massive and my cvs are flap/breg, flap/flap, flap/flap/wyvern so

[stark quiver]

always that one guy with the super reacts

[barren tapir]

nana was on boss 2 and mid cos its light armor she did her best on 15-2 naturally.

one 15-2 run she did somewhere like 130k+ dmg per minute which is

[barren tapir]

also tbf its more like uni and aquila are each half. rumey was insane

[sweet delta]

2k DPS

[storm heron]

I wonder how much damage guam or sandy does

[barren tapir]

well sandy did 326k damage in boss3 AA moment

[north topaz]

What's the best gear setup for Fu Shun retrofitted? Same as An Shan and Chang Chun?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss and fleet

Oxytorp for damage if survivability isn't needed

[storm heron]

oxytorp just wins against the seal, is it because of math or is there some other reason

[sweet delta]

It's because it wins

[barren tapir]

3 fu shuns in 1 fleet lets go. make it 6

[viscid swift]

nah, 3 SY1-As and 2 Mogador guns is the really impressive stuff there

[quartz jungle]

Why did mog gun switch to twin 100 mm?

[sharp socket]

is this antilight cv fleet gph approved

[stark quiver]

skyraider on enty

[sweet delta]

For new players who don't have mog gun

[sharp socket]

do you have any idea how pain it is to sync fritz

[stark quiver]

no

[sharp socket]

the answer is that it cant

[quartz jungle]

Use a Breguet on Enty then

[sharp socket]

this looks kinda bad

i cant tell who is top/bottom/mid on this

[quartz jungle]

Also HVAR rockets doesn't need a stopper only a slow

[sweet delta]

If it's opsi, switch breguer to spearfish and you don't need tight sync for that

[sharp socket]

22.04 fritz

[bright tusk]

Good torpedo focused DD besides Shimakaze?

[stark quiver]

oh bruh

[sharp socket]

1s ahead of everyone

[stark quiver]

fret not, ill prob cook

[little tree]

~~ alpha about to burn this ~~

[sweet delta]

Must DD? Ibuki or jintsuu meta

[stark quiver]

enty a bit slow, but it doesnt matter

if you dont have spear🐟 , then use a saiun
or a albacore for tighter sync

[viscid swift]

so difficult /s

[sweet delta]

The whole exercise was to try to put skyraider on Enty

Because downgrading to tenrai is a huge loss

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

yeah that ain't happening

[stark quiver]

i think it happened

[eternal moth]

What's current best fleet for Maihou, Amagi/Shin/Imp/Z52/Kaza/Unzen?

[sweet delta]

According to a source, it's soyuz nakhi amagi z52 kaza helena

[viscid swift]

I just said fuck it and ran Helena instead of Unzen

[eternal moth]

Probably simpler that way.

[viscid swift]

it just was not consistent enough

[stark quiver]

wont it be better to replace z52

[sweet delta]

depends on the account status. If you have enough to kill with Helena 1 out of 4 scans

[viscid swift]

you need AA

[stark quiver]

2 UR aa got the job done for me

[sweet delta]

if you don't, then still use Helena for 2/4 or 2/3 scans

[stark quiver]

anyways, im back to 3 shotting so

[viscid swift]

why you cheeky little

[sweet delta]

full fleet with no gear got the job done for me
in only one fight ||plus a bunch of support||

[storm heron]

who is cheekier

[vernal flume]

Can guilds be joined crossserver?

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

no

[vernal flume]

F

[stark quiver]

a guild is unique to one server

time to do meta, been at 200/200 for a week or two now

[vernal flume]

||any lil enterprise hacker wanna adopt me into their guilds?||

[eternal moth]

level 119 Z52 doing as much damage as 125 Kaza, buff Kazagumo

[turbid marsh]

thats expected tbh

[eternal moth]

Hush you

[sweet delta]

level 1 NJ did as much damage as level 125 oathed Chen Hai, so devs gave Chen Hai a retrofit

[eternal moth]

lol

[stark quiver]

now my lvl 2 nj does more

[sharp socket]

has anyone tested hwah jah for w15 yet

she has alot of planes per plane

[storm heron]

like for main fleet?

since for support fleet you'd only need like paper calc

[halcyon ermine]

which ship is best to pick from new years ticket

[stark quiver]

check pinned messages, or just hold onto it

[bright tusk]

is sextuple bofors +13 better than +10 UR aa gun?

[halcyon ermine]

the ticket i have has diff ships than what the pinned message says

[stark quiver]

what ticket is it

[halcyon ermine]

new years invitation 2025

[alpine condor]

what rewards does the 3d thingy give

[stark quiver]

yea thats the one in pins

[halcyon ermine]

the ticket i have has taihou, yat sen, hwah jah, chen hai, tai yuan, kuybyshev, and theseus

[stark quiver]

yea

but id honestly hold onto it

[halcyon ermine]

my fault i was reading the wrong pinned message

[viscid swift]

nothing in terms of gameplay

[stark quiver]

UR aa will be the better +13, but bofor cheaper

[alpine condor]

how do i delete em then

i want more gamesifbsjfbiebfidbf

[storm heron]

YOU CAN DELETE 3D DORM

@

lemme see if I can find the gif

[alpine condor]

how tho

[coral elk]

Will it also remove the red mark about it?

I am tired of it and am not really interested in that dorm thing, ahh

[knotty sleet]

Is this still worth doing? I also done with advanced challenge and get all rewards both in advanced and personal

[wind hazel]

no unless you want to affinity grind

[knotty sleet]

i see, so bonus tix cannot become gold or something at the end of event?

[wind hazel]

sadly no

[knotty sleet]

okey thanks

[storm heron]

finally found it
#gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

if you need parts and coins or have rudder copium but you probably don't. doing 30k in no reward runs wasn't the best use of oil.

[stone sluice]

Really?
Someone has a link? 😲

[viscid swift]

CN made the announcement a few days ago but we won't be getting it until February 20th

[stone sluice]

Great, I was gonna craft a rainbow AA gun since I have the mats

[bold stream]

Hello all. I just finished my mlb akagi and kaga. But is still way low on the sakura tech. Has anyone farmed yudachi copies? Please share your low cost fleet.

Thanks!

[frank pulsar]

just run cassin + ranger ig
but like, cant you get sakura tech from elsewhere? farming yuudachi isnt a good idea nowadays

[bold stream]

1* ranger and cassin? I will also get the fusou sisters there...

[storm heron]

can you even low fleet, Penguin? iirc you don't have that strong of a crossfleet...

[bold stream]

I have 4 cross fleets. Rumey, musashi, yk2 and z52...

[frank pulsar]

if you dont have good equips you might need to use a third ship

[storm heron]

wait what lb1 ranger lb1 a mahan works? interesting

[bold stream]

Just cassin and dawnes i guess? I will try later if I can kill boss with out of ammo debuff

[wind hazel]

i doubt

[copper ermine]

If im trying to get combat experience for agir should I use 3 ironblood or would two still be efficient?

[ivory pawn]

3 is efficient. If this is backline, 2 is acceptable if you still need a healer.

[bold stream]

So just use the cross fleet for boss? Buts that a 60+ oil fleet...

[wind hazel]

always go for 3

[wind hazel]

i suggest to not low oil and farm yuudachi

[spring bolt]

always use 3 relevant ships for exp grinding, and keep an eye out for vanguard/backline req, agir cdc1 and cdc2 need different ones

[copper ermine]

wait really

[sharp socket]

napoli is CA and not CB?

[wind hazel]

6-4 is lv68 mob, lv69 boss, it's pretty tough just by level difference alone. i dont think 0lb ranger cassin gonna cut it to the end

[sharp socket]

i noticed she doesnt need backline xp

[spring bolt]

yeah nap is CA

[signal pollen]

Who should I claim next?

[wind hazel]

is shinano mlb?
yes>UVH
no>Shinano until mlb

[signal pollen]

Shinano mlb so I will get UVH?

[sharp socket]

between NJ and uvh who has better crossfleet

[wind hazel]

both are good on their use case...

hard to pick one tbh

[bold stream]

What do you think is the best solution here?

I am thinking of farming yuudachi because I will be getting fusou and yamashiro copies there too... I still need 300...

[spring bolt]

nj barrage has better dps, uvh is best defense crossfleet barrage

[sharp socket]

can i use NJ for yorkii

[storm heron]

NJ crossfleet is the 15% avi right?

[bold stream]

Additional mlb foxes does not give techs right?

[wind hazel]

if you have CV or BB medal, get the crane or nagato, mikasa etc

[sharp socket]

NJ actually seems pretty good for yorkii support over kear

also cheaper? maybe idk

[bold stream]

Yea, i do not have those options. Maybe get taihou from chinese newyear card. But will cost me all my gold bullins..

[spring bolt]

also check guild shop/merit shop/core data shop if you have spare resources

[wind hazel]

no need to mlb, collection is enough

[storm heron]

they are not working

[wind hazel]

told you i doubt it

[crisp raven]

proc more quick takeoffs

[bold stream]

But its 300+ needed... Maybe i should just mlb these loli sakura ships.. but they give very little tech

[storm heron]

there are just too many mobs to kill OoA before boss come, ended up taking all the crossfleets

[wind hazel]

have you considered getting the PR1 and PR2 sakura empire ships

[bold stream]

I actually do consider them. But i lack the ship blueprints. I can not even finish Champaigne because of BBprints. Those gold prints are so rare...

[wind hazel]

don't need to dev them, just collection is enough

or do you mean the retrofit blueprints

[bold stream]

Oh yes! Retro fit blue prints!

Sorry.

[wind hazel]

i guess if you're not in hurry to retrofit anyone else at the moment, just spam x-3 hard mode from now lol

[bold stream]

Probably the only thing I can do. I might still try to low oil map 6 because 300 is a lot of points to farm

[wind hazel]

just try to collect whichever main fleet you can get, and try to mlb the rare/elites

then collect the loli vanguards from everywhere

[storm heron]

how about guild shop, merit, medal shop?

[wind hazel]

there's some from core data but it's core data...

[bold stream]

I have extra core data but I am thinking of buying the ix cannons for one my ix super rare subs...

[sharp echo]

oof i didnt know non mlb lvl maxed 90, wasted 18k exp commision coz no overflow exp stored

[bold stream]

About time i get my week sub raid done...

[wind hazel]

i'd rather buy ship to unlock haku than getting gun for tempesta sub lol

[bold stream]

Really? But I am always missing on these weeklies..?

[wind hazel]

even lv65 one?

that can be done with the default sub alone i believe

[bold stream]

Yea? I just do like lv 45

Now thats a skill issue i guess..

[storm heron]

nowaki yoizuki harutsuki ashigara naganami hanazuki kasumi shirayuki

[wind hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFzdjTD_eQ

suchiguma shameless plugin

[bold stream]

I am doing this too...

Collection only of mlb though?

[storm heron]

you can get 4 in a week

[wind hazel]

1. collect all that you can get
2. mlb from most faction tech (usually main fleet ships) if you still need more points

[storm heron]

in any case just slowly level it, I don't think you'll be getting haku anytime soon until like march unless we get a sakura UR feb

[bold stream]

Thank you all for the inputs.

I guess the main thing is just to postpone getting my ix sub built and just buy sakura ships from core data shop?

[wind hazel]

which sub btw

[barren tapir]

id still do 15 hard/day unless you really dont want any more washing machines, its cheap and fast so why not

oh my lawdy i didnt check the time my bad

[storm heron]

i agree, the run with the bonus is good

[nimble knoll]

Can you see how much a ship's CR is?

[storm heron]

cooldown reduction?

[nimble knoll]

Crit Rate

[storm heron]

yeah im kinda cooked... I don't think the game shows CR, you have to calculate it

[stark quiver]

5 by default

[nimble knoll]

Owh

[storm heron]

but yeah the base is 5

[stark quiver]

then add skills n shit

[barren tapir]

crit rate is also very dependent on the enemy target so game cant really show an actual value

base is 5 tho

but yea itd be hard as it varies every enemy due to eva/lck

[nimble knoll]

[thick parrot]

What gun is this? Trying to copy a build for Musashi

[storm heron]

prototype triple 155mm

[thick parrot]

How do I get it?

Ouh okay

[storm heron]

this is where wiki is useful

[sharp kestrel]

Is this good equipment?

[river junco]

It’s ok

[bright tusk]

is fw190a6r6 +13 better than la9 +10?

[stark quiver]

la9

[jagged marlin]

Yo yo. I have problem with QE2 Meta fight. Looking for fleet advice so I can take her down in one go.

[stark quiver]

are you using a meta ship in your fleet?

[storm heron]

tips:

• Use a meta ship with good dps
• check if you landed 2nd airstrike after all summons are killed
• make sure your vanguard didn't sink before last airstrike connects
• and lastly use slows/roots for better consistency

[bright tusk]

is vit-2 (mode change) shouldn't equipped to the slowest carrier because it slow flight speed? the stop effect gone before vit-2 could hit their torps?

[frank pulsar]

if it dont fit yr stop/slow window then just dont use it
or use a beacon to make it faster

[storm heron]

looks like bad syncing tbh, it should've hit

[forest palm]

That does happen with the Mod VIT

[wind hazel]

it happens because your sync is bad

[bright tusk]

how to fix it

[wind hazel]

use different plane setup

[storm heron]

0 rld

[stark quiver]

dont need to nerf damaage

[jaunty vault]

is it only 4 new ships this event

[wind hazel]

and 2 retro if you care

[jaunty vault]

fu shun and ?

[trim bloom]

Does anyone know if they're gonna bring back the 2x gem purchase bonus?

[wind hazel]

hwah jah

[stark quiver]

hwan jah

[jaunty vault]

i know

[stark quiver]

august for en

[forest palm]

Every anniversary

[trim bloom]

Damn

[wind hazel]

he knows

[stark quiver]

those who know 💀

[peak moat]

Who is a good third eagle union carrier with york2 and enty? I’m not too happy with hornet 2

[wind hazel]

kearsarge

ackhtually that's a BBV

[peak moat]

Forgot to say I don’t have yet

[stark quiver]

why EU specifically

[jaunty vault]

what do you have

[zenith heron]

I hope its not a faction fleet

[stark quiver]

if anything just run independance

[jaunty vault]

its literally a faction fleet

[peak moat]

Anything but kearsarge basically

[stark quiver]

independance

[storm heron]

hornet II or shang ri la looks good for bossing

[wind hazel]

if you're trying to fulfil the 3 EU ships, then use a EU vanguard, and let your 3rd main fleet be the freeze or something else dps

[jaunty vault]

tico is good antilight

but you're better off using a slow/stop ship

[storm heron]

wait why not implacable

[wind hazel]

she's a wanker

jk, he asked for a EU mainfleet.

implacable is HMS, not EU

[storm heron]

oh lol implac is not EU..

[peak moat]

Mfs when someone isn’t minmaxing

Ty for info

[storm heron]

why do people even use implac ytII kear then

[zenith heron]

I would pick Independence like alpha said it its just campaign or whatever, looks random...

[wind hazel]

becauze freeze is good...

[jaunty vault]

cause it's good

[wind hazel]

if you're not minmaxing then put esex. let essex be with her senpai enterprise

[stark quiver]

because full stop?

[zenith heron]

Is there any ship that does 100% freeze that Isn't Impla, AvP, ArkRoyal, Formi, and Peter Strasser? Hell the last 2 are meh...

[wind hazel]

nakhimov, with np slow

[crimson glacier]

everyone except imp and avp are meh from those

[bold stream]

I have both SSR IX subs. Which is better for the daily sub raids?

[zenith heron]

I guess this bcs Ark Royal's torp bomber slot is shit? Or I might be mistaken

[wind hazel]

honestly i wouldn't use any of them

[zenith heron]

This is alr, could've been better if it was one ship only, but thanks

[wind hazel]

solo ship it's pretty much implacable>avp>the rest

[bold stream]

That is sad...

[zenith heron]

This could have been nice if you had Royal Fortune

[stark quiver]

You could have royal fortune

[wind hazel]

i suggest to use i58 for lv65, and raise either wolfpack or fishpack subs for the lv95 one

[spring bolt]

from "clearing sub weekly" pov alone, all tempesta ships do equally well, it's just a cost efficiency issue: do you have spare bulins to mlb a ship you will pretty much use nowhere else, or raise normal subs that you will use in other contents

[jagged marlin]

Nope

[wind hazel]

can tempesta ship clear the lv95 one with stock gear?

[sharp socket]

i dunno the i58 tech but 6 bidders works for the lv95 one

[sweet delta]

Farming level 65 for a year to get 6 bidders to do the level 95

[sharp socket]

it was only 8 months

[jagged marlin]

Ok. Thanks

[bold stream]

If I am to build only one.. which one would it be?

[sharp socket]

waiting for 6 bidders is more worthwhile than raising a tempesta ship at about the same timeframe and never using them again

[wind hazel]

47 81

[spring bolt]

no idea, but videos of royal fortune beating lv95 weekly at lv100 can be found, auto
or lv110+, no auto no manual, just sits there
all using gold guns

[sharp socket]

also if you're good you can use not bidders and use straight torps

[wind hazel]

stock gear should be good enough i guess, at higher lv

[jagged marlin]

Helena Meta would do the job or I need one more Meta in Main fleet?

[bold stream]

What about the other IX SSRs? I have both of them. How do they compare to royal fortune?

[fickle hollow]

should i get eldridge?

[wind hazel]

i'll try it tomorrow, i can use lv100 royal fortune

[zenith heron]

get if you have her retrofit item

which was available last year of August

[fickle hollow]

retrofit item?

any pic

[stark quiver]

Skill based game mode
My 125 fishpack failed l95

[spring bolt]

not much difference, tempesta ships are all good at this
but as i said: are you willing to spend bulins on a ship you will probably not use anywhere else?

[zenith heron]

badly cropped but here you go

[fickle hollow]

i dont have it

[wind hazel]

then you can skip eldridge until the item rerun

[quartz jungle]

Just manual better

[zenith heron]

sadly don't get her until you have said retrofit item, skip because probably it will be available after a year if they don't delay it further

[bold stream]

I mean... How big is the weekly raid reward gap? I am missing those rewards... Weekly... If its only 4 gold bullins.. i can spare...

[fickle hollow]

then whom should i get from pvp shop?

kawakaze?

[glacial widget]

hey is Agir/Helena/Plym still a good BB fleet vanguard, or is there anything better?

havent updated my opsi fleets in a bit, jw if theres anything better i could slot in

[wind hazel]

eldridge albacore and u37 are pretty much the notable ones, the rest are just tech ships or for faction tech

[fickle hollow]

[wind hazel]

but even the subs are skippable if you don't wanna minmax too much. pick one and get the other later on anytime

[spring bolt]

compared to lv95 one, the lv75 one has a little less coins, 2 less blue ship exp books (the 3000 exp one), 2 less random gold plates (but has purple plates), 5% less chance to get gold torp print (35% vs 40%)

[zenith heron]

its like an optional pick
Albacore due to being one of the best in the Fishpack Comp
U-37 the same as Albacore but in the Wolfpack Comp
then Eldridge if you have her retro item...

[fickle hollow]

is Vit 2 better than saiun kai?

this one

[zenith heron]

saiun kai is the fastest, vit 2 is the strongest but the slowest

use it for timing purposes

[bold stream]

I can not even pass the lv 65 one... I guess i will commit to 4 gold bullins for this

[zenith heron]

basically by order from the fastest to the strongest
Saiun Kai
Ju-87 (Junkers)
Ryuusei
Vit 2 Mod Change

[fickle hollow]

i was thinking of using
Saiun kai-SBC2-Vit 2 on shinano against Taihou meta

[wind hazel]

did you watch the video i linked

[zenith heron]

I assume you are using an IJN Comp? the best is paired with Shinano, Amagi CV, and Implacable.....

[fickle hollow]

yep but Musashi instead on Implacable

i dont have her yet waiting for rerun

[zenith heron]

should be doable, but do you have any slow/freeze carriers?

Like August Von Parseval or Ark Royal Retro?

[spring bolt]

the choice of 4 converging tbs is subject to synergy, they are all side grades and you should pick the one that would make the carrier syncs with freeze/slow/boss stops

[fickle hollow]

idk which Carriers or vangaurd ships have freeze/slow? then i heard abt Eldridge

[zenith heron]

sadly her slow isn't that much impactful compared to her Invulnerability buff to her and the Vanguard Team (via her Retrofit)

[molten zinc]

Also avoid using the VIT-2 for the CV that will strike last because high chance the slow/root will run out before they hit the boss and you miss those torp

[fickle hollow]

do any other ships have slow/freeze?

i have Agir

[bold stream]

Yes.. its skill issue.. i am very bad... And its a lv 90 sub.

[molten zinc]

Reason is because VIT-2 also have the slowest plane speed out of the 4 converging torp

[zenith heron]

Formidable and Peter Strasser is copium
Nyakhimov with any NP ship could have been doable

but if you don't have any, then stick with your composition team

[wind hazel]

i'll try it tomorrow with lv100 Mary with default blue gear, i will get back to you

[zenith heron]

same as Eldridge's slow, it is not as viable

[bold stream]

Thank you mori!

[wind hazel]

maybe can save you core data

you have those purple tempesta aux right?

[bold stream]

The flag? I have it. I have gold washing machines too.

[wind hazel]

how about this

i'll try this

-# the aug is pretty expensive

[zenith heron]

The Auxiliaries shown could have been best to use, If I am correct or not...

[bold stream]

These are the only aux that my ix can equip...

[wind hazel]

unlucky

[bold stream]

I have the flag down there...

[wind hazel]

yeah i see it

[zenith heron]

Probably Repair tool is fine but copium, since you need an FP aux for IX as well

Flag is near meh

[storm heron]

well, you should watch the battle and see if your second airstrike lands after the phantoms destroyed

[bold stream]

What stats does ix sub auxes need? FP?

[jagged marlin]

I have also Bearn Meta, would that help?

[sharp socket]

eld slow is good wdym

60% slow on flagship launch

[wind hazel]

we'll go with this then

[zenith heron]

it is good, but not as reliable to a complete freeze

[wind hazel]

i also just know that their gun is +6 max, not +7

why isn't it +7

[boreal wagon]

smth smth only t0, t3 can be "limit broken" smth smth, weird system

[storm heron]

well that helena meta definitely ain't gonna be able to clear the phantom knights

[bold stream]

Thank you!

[wind hazel]

this game so bad

[storm heron]

use bearn meta instead, 50% preload mode

[jagged marlin]

Well that can be fixed. Just lemme know what is worth to raise up to deal with QE2

[storm heron]

or 20% preload mode actually

[sharp socket]

nagato meta is good for QEM iirc

[storm heron]

I don't remember when the knights spawned

[nocturne glade]

when I go back to older stages to get 3 stars to unlock hard mode, should I just 1:1 to save oil?

[jagged marlin]

I saw some video people using Hiryuu Meta in CV fleet

[wind hazel]

wherever possible yes

[jagged marlin]

but basically the entire point is to have Meta ships in fleet to deal with QEM?

[patent raft]

Guys. Need help in ask about tb or navi

[storm heron]

I don't really know what's the bar for this meta fight tbh

[wind hazel]

to do damage on the summon knights, yeah

[wind hazel]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[patent raft]

I just said that. Check duh

[wind hazel]

oh i misread that

[patent raft]

It's fine

[storm heron]

maybe like this

[stark quiver]

You need good account strength to cover up for damage lost

[jagged marlin]

I'll try it out

[left cedar]

Why cant i contribute? I havent done it today or yesterday

[storm heron]

you should be able to at least 2 shot with that

[jagged marlin]

Collect Rewards first

[left cedar]

Still cant

[storm heron]

guild mission wasn't posted by the manager, you contributed before they posted

[jagged marlin]

Who would you use for Vanguard? Helena Meta for sure + Kazaguma and? Laffey 2?

[storm heron]

I don't think you need helena meta tbh

what options do you have? do you have eldridge?

[jagged marlin]

obviously

Plymouth, Z52, Eldridge, whatever you want ;D

[storm heron]

eld kazagumo sirius

[jagged marlin]

Good that i have Sirius leveled ;D

@storm heron I was sleeping on Meta fights for some time but i want to just research them up now. So i'm just new with those fights and their mechs. Taihou Meta is also quite hard to clap with her big hp, but she ain't such a big problem.

[storm heron]

well the thing about meta fights are, as long as you decently know and have what's good for bossing in general, you should be able to 2 shot given enough cooking effort

[jagged marlin]

Usually i just want to 1 shot them, but not everytime it is possible ;D

[storm heron]

I mean idk how strong your account is, but taihou meta definitely requires a lot of strength

[jagged marlin]

If your dms are open i can send what i have ;D

[storm heron]

no. You can just make a thread here and share your dock if you want to help with something

[inner delta]

/ban 767452211260555284

[odd root]

hyperviolencee#0 got banned.

[fickle hollow]

Should i craft my 1st Flapjack or My 1st Ju-87?

[zenith heron]

if you need better intercept (AA) then Flapjack, but if you need better Timing for your boss fights, then Ju-87

[fickle hollow]

i use Hellcats and F4U pirarte squad as my fighters

[zenith heron]

you facing world 15? if not then I guess Ju-87 should do it

[fickle hollow]

And use Vit2,saiun Kai and Barracuda for torp

[fickle hollow]

w11 rn

[fickle hollow]

ok i will do this

my 1st Ju-87

[zenith heron]

I guess you'd be fine with the Ju-87 bcs bossing might be your priority, and it will be a while before you get to w15, like a really long while

[fickle hollow]

[zenith heron]

also use Converging Torp Bombers like the Saiun Kai, Ju087, Ryussei and the Vit 2 mod change on boss fights only (Challenge Mode, Op Si Fleet, META Boss FIghts, EX Stages)

on Campaign, stick to Barracuda bcs there is no way you'd use a Converging torp on campaign where all of them move a lot

[fickle hollow]

[fickle hollow]

i dont have the plane

[wind hazel]

get he-50b from ironblood techbox, start crafting it up from there

[fickle hollow]

[wind hazel]

lacking purple materials

[fickle hollow]

[molten zinc]

[zenith heron]

it is what it is, either do more OpSi, or waiting for a while

bcs it drops barely on the lvl 95 of Fierce Assault via Daily Raids, other than that it its OpSi

[fickle hollow]

should i craft ryusei then?

[zenith heron]

never craft Ryuusei in Gear Lab, since its too expensive

[zenith heron]

try waiting for it via getting blueprints through Research

[fickle hollow]

what should i farm to get purple electronics? Strongholds?

[turbid dawn]

What are the best fleets for Ch15 nowadays? I only did it on release and haven't touched it since

[zenith heron]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[fickle hollow]

Should i use this?

[jaunty vault]

are you confident you can kill a c6 abyssal?