gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

and if you ask about levels well

currently im levelling fu shun for feb CM, yk2 in case i mlb her, and hornet2 cos shes cute

avp is kinda put aside atm cos i intend to manual feb CM

for vanguard, im levelling z52, sandy, ply to 125 for feb CM using oil, and triple DE vg for c1 because im building myself a harbin to coin up once avp is done

in terms of skills to max...oh boy

rumey
z52
sandy
plymouth
fu shun
avp
aquila
enty
yk2
indep (arguably)
harbin (soon, very soon)

then on top i have waifus

halford
z9
hornet2
hamm2

also i need to work on ijn tech in general because shimanto is wife

[stark quiver]

holy text wall

[barren tapir]

the tldr is i am swamped with progression projects currently which is why i basically do nothing well atm lol

[cobalt gate]

for cv its frit admrial aond someone else probably othrwise yorktown with eagle cv if you doing cv fleets

[zenith heron]

well I guess I am stuck on 2 fleet the light harby like last week but alr

[stark quiver]

if you have bbs jus use them

[storm heron]

what is sub prio +13?

[barren tapir]

youll also notice my list contains nothing about subs. i expect to remain subless for months longer.

oh yeah...i have shinano too but she'll have to wait

[stark quiver]

2 mk7s and a mk6 gets the job done with like close to no tech

[keen sable]

meanwhile average player hard stuck on 11-3

[stark quiver]

very low

[sharp socket]

can someone test for me NJ fdg uvh vs haku nano avp with 3 hvarcats

[storm heron]

I spent like 480 gold sub plates for 4 bidders like a while agi

[stark quiver]

cool, you probably didnt lose much there

[barren tapir]

and i explain in detail bc idk why ppl expect me to be capable of autoing harby already...

[cobalt gate]

man i wish the gold plate cost for rainbow isn't so crazy

[fiery raptor]

i cleared w15 lethal with just +10 bidders and the auxes at +6 archerfish nootalus and vinki they did fine even if nootalus is explosion risk

[barren tapir]

theres only so much time in a day, so much oil, so much coin, to progress with

[storm heron]

am I supposed to hold on torp plate?

[stark quiver]

just take it slowly

[barren tapir]

whats with the reactions, im just explaining why i cant do something yet

[fiery raptor]

+6 100mm twins for the guns except for vinki she had the purple pasta SAP

[keen sable]

is there a question?

[stark quiver]

doesnt matter honestly, unless they release some super uber slayer torp in mass

[barren tapir]

yes i was asked a question actually

[fiery raptor]

i auto +10 my quad mags and that keeps my purple torp plates in check

kills my coin tho

[undone plover]

tbh harby to harby is different
and using 4 fleets u might be able to actually kill some harbiters

[keen sable]

i haven't gotten a quad mag from a box in like 4 years jelly

[storm heron]

what's this "auto +10" term

[barren tapir]

and tbh pushing campaign murdered my oil so now i have no coins

[storm heron]

we know what murdered your oil

[zenith heron]

basically just peeps balancing their resources by just +10 some equipments, especially torps and anti air plates on useful equipments

couldn't be me too

[fiery raptor]

it's because i specifically go after IB gold boxes since i can get catpults and quad mags... at a passable rate

[storm heron]

why need to balance though, it's not oike there's a cap

[barren tapir]

i didnt have enough good ships levelled to even fill 3 proper fleets this month

[zenith heron]

also why the fuck is DDG missiles using Auxiliary plates?

[sharp socket]

gold quad mags drop from boxes?

[storm heron]

not the american one

[barren tapir]

my fleet 3 contained an ijn ship with nagato meta thats how scraped i was for ships when i decided to do harby LOL

[sharp socket]

i cant say ive seen them from gold boxes before..

[barren tapir]

yuudachi bad

[barren tapir]

they exist in theory. ive certainly never seen one before...

[zenith heron]

me coping on yuudachi kai when shimakaze was around

[stark quiver]

ok, ill go open some gold boxes

after these runs

[barren tapir]

im kidding, but shes kinda underwhelming for UR for sure

[keen sable]

no way that just falls in your lap. you'll have to do it the hard way. I don't know if they run double sakuras anymore but it's very possible you won't see a sakura event until september

[stark quiver]

she isnt a UR, shes a ur retro

[zenith heron]

not as underwhelming as the old UR Retro Warspoot

[barren tapir]

i mean i did 14-4 3* with her but like that was me experimenting with neptune in boss more than anything

[stark quiver]

and shes old

[barren tapir]

still

[storm heron]

it's not that hard

first 10

[barren tapir]

sandy is an UR retro and so is eldridge and id consider them true URs in terms of power so

[zenith heron]

she is like when Kronk appeared but Agir still beats her while being the latter was earlier than the former

[fiery raptor]

id all of w14 with yuudachi but as mob tank (with jda)

[storm heron]

scrapping time

[sharp socket]

yuudachi aug when

[barren tapir]

she doesnt need aug, you raise her because she is cute

[fiery raptor]

inb4 it's more bbq reference becaue dog=meat-lover

🇰🇷

[viscid swift]

we have enough URs surely /s

[zenith heron]

won't be surprised when either her or warspoot gets an aug

[keen sable]

oath > aug

[barren tapir]

lol anyway i was just malding a bit that she was my only raised option that would do anything in fleet 3 ignore me

[barren tapir]

[undone plover]

actually curious why u raised her
we dont recommend anyone farm her or retro her usually

[barren tapir]

the only ship im certain will get aug is monarch, everything else is speculation

[barren tapir]

cute

[fiery raptor]

bbbecause mgm+1 and skc128 ap pierce means she gud at mobeing surely

[barren tapir]

but she also got powercrept by nana in cuteness so... oof

[zenith heron]

at least you have a decent reason

My excuse was thinking almost as strong as Shimakaze due to the torp stat alone...

But that was me assuming anyway

[barren tapir]

shes good tech anyway tbf, fp and trp

and retro is always needed, for collection% so it wasnt a waste

[viscid swift]

She was certainly good for her time

wouldn't have banked 3 million XP on her otherwise

[zenith heron]

and now we just have her sitting in the dock, at least waiting for her time to shine

[barren tapir]

shes absolutely still good just outclassed

i mean hell i used her for a while on hvar farming before sandy got retroed and could do it while also gaining exp

[fiery raptor]

yeah mine got her 3mil from farming 14-4 for NO copies for mlb 130 cog awaken when

[slate siren]

how do i change my opsi fleets

[zenith heron]

also are ddg missiles considered an Auxiliary?
Could have been better if they use torp plates

[barren tapir]

anyone have that gif?

[viscid swift]

they did use torp plates originally but that got changed soon after they were added, don't ask me why

[barren tapir]

go to port, fleet commands (?), fleet deployment

missiles are not torpedos

[zenith heron]

well that change seemed stupid...

for players who want to save auxi plates

[storm heron]

go to a blue port, find top right press fleet commands, and then select fleet deployment out of the options

[barren tapir]

missiles are not guns, torps, anti-air, nor planes...so they can only use aux

[sharp socket]

is +13 the sy1a missile good

[storm heron]

the what missle

[barren tapir]

wtf typo

[hollow gust]

its one of the only offensive aux plate so def

[slate siren]

i dont have fleet commands

[fiery raptor]

speaking of missile how does fu shun compare to the other ddg?

[zenith heron]

~~i mean yeah, its as labeled as its described, but at least it can be used on those said plates, but oh well ~~

[viscid swift]

think CN said slightly better than Tai Yuan for damage

[sharp socket]

also when do i start using aux plates on catas

[barren tapir]

hmm would fu shun or plymouth do more dps to newcastle CM? assuming ply isnt supporting a bb

[sharp socket]

like after 3 +13 white shell?

[hollow gust]

catas were my first aux plate dumps

[zenith heron]

but is An Shan considered superior until now?

[barren tapir]

im leaning fu shun, but not sure

[viscid swift]

well she's light armor but at the same time there's those annoying summons to deal with

[barren tapir]

fu shun gold gun, plymouth plygun

[storm heron]

I only have 2 +13 white shells

[viscid swift]

not unless you're utilizing her ability to apply AB no

[zenith heron]

all I have left to retro is ChangChun but I do not have her, and I am stuck with Tai Yuan having no Missile for now...

[barren tapir]

iirc for newcastle u need high dps on the jug

[zenith heron]

[storm heron]

imo missle > catas > white shell > afcrs

[sharp socket]

if i use 457 comp i only use 2 white shells

[fiery raptor]

gold gun is tash or harbin gun?

[barren tapir]

so dunno which is better for that, backline takes care of newcastle herself i assume (manual)

[fiery raptor]

130 bm2 or whatever it's called

[barren tapir]

yeah she'd be using harbin gun

[sharp socket]

both 130mm guns are good

tash gun slightly better but more expensive needing coredata

[barren tapir]

coredata bad

[zenith heron]

does the wiki have a certain list of weapon blueprints dropped per Research Season?

[barren tapir]

speaking of core data, with 3+2 shells, indep, a breguet, 1 of each cv timing aux...do i just go ham on sub equipment or?

[sweet delta]

Ply with ply gun would do more main gun DPS than ddg with non-moggun

[sharp socket]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Prototype_Shop this has the PR gear but i cant find the one with all gear if it exists

[sweet delta]

But ddg would do more total DPS because missile

[barren tapir]

vanguard total consistent dps just needs to be over 2400 right, and then burst like missile can take down the jug?

[woven star]

They are Messer. Using them instead of palet. Or fau1 at least

[barren tapir]

What

[zenith heron]

thanks but I found it via Research Academy page on the wiki

[viscid swift]

Not sure how much this helps but this is just a quick run I did against Katsuragi

[barren tapir]

[fiery raptor]

what is a fu shun aa gun? the IB accelerator or STAAG?

[sharp socket]

the more things i see about ply dps the more i think using ply as baseline for dps calculations seem like a decent idea

[barren tapir]

roomba i assume if AA needed, else 134 for fp?

plygood

[sharp socket]

using portkai for dps baseline would be funny but less useful maybe

[barren tapir]

much less useful LOL

[zenith heron]

seems a good choice, what still bothers me is that the fp aa gun also has good dmg output, just slower than the roomba

well not overall output but just the dmg stat

[barren tapir]

use laffey like suchi did to test halford

aa speed isnt necessary if aa isnt important

[soft raft]

???
Fr, what happened to your grammar man

[sharp socket]

i think he just went to the wrong chat

[woven star]

I said that missiles closed to Messerschmitt rather then torps. Better?

[sweet delta]

You've been unintelligible for the whole day, just get off discord

[woven star]

Lol. Toxic

[ebon pilot]

When i switch to the "retiring" hub, only Duplicate Ships are being shown, right?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

that still makes no sense but now at least I know what plane you were referring to

[ebon pilot]

Oh sht...

[viscid swift]

this is why you should lock your ships

[soft raft]

anything below SR Rarity that's unlocked will be selected

SRs and URs need to be manually selected

[ebon pilot]

Mistakes were made.

[woven star]

Me262? Fau1?

[viscid swift]

the Me-262 does not exist in game

[ebon pilot]

Whatever, no important Shipgirls suffered I hope

[stark quiver]

262 in game is crazy

[soft raft]

There is no Fau1 in the game

[viscid swift]

not that you'll read it anyway because I'm blocked

[soft raft]

heck with Messer and Fau, I thought you were talking Gundam lmfao

[sharp socket]

what is this chat now

[stark quiver]

secret collab

[south sequoia]

[zenith heron]

does lvl 120 still receive exp, just not progressing lvl till dark blue cog chips is used?

[south sequoia]

Yes they do

[viscid swift]

up to 3 million yes

[zenith heron]

well nice, I guess my farming sessions does make sense

[south sequoia]

And after 3 mil cap it still counts towards things such as cdc

[soft raft]

even if it shows +0 it still counts towards XP Books and CDC

[obsidian ivy]

Have DDGs been used for light armour meta

[hollow gust]

we have?

[stark quiver]

want taiyuan used for some meta

[obsidian ivy]

[sharp socket]

is this the modern version of med and light fleets

[hollow gust]

[sharp socket]

9/32, 3/32 bb/cv rld

[obsidian ivy]

I didn't know Soyuz can use that weird DD gun

[hollow gust]

but why wold you use it other then pvp

[storm heron]

I think bro forgor

anyways for med perhaps, but for light idk if that's better than the ykII since it won't be in time for 4th strike

[barren tapir]

twin137 good for ch14

[hollow gust]

light works with yorktown just fine

[sharp socket]

well i have 2 of the twin 137s so i might as well stick them permanently on my BBs

[woven star]

What's wrong with anshan and fushun. They look little better

[storm heron]

stick a ply gun usually

or any 45 fp

[soft raft]

Fu Shun didnt even get her retrofit until like two weeks ago
And An Shan retro is worse than Tai Yuan retro

[sharp socket]

i don't have a third plygun

[storm heron]

I just use plygun on soy and helena :wheeze

also do you have nakh :stare

[hollow gust]

just use CL guns, they intecept better and they have more fp

[barren tapir]

its 10 less fp but understandable if lazy

[sharp socket]

well currently i dont have a d30 nakh

im cooking for the future

and also because this lecture is boring

[storm heron]

relatable

[barren tapir]

and 137 good for ch14-15

[crisp estuary]

[sharp socket]

if i were to cook something i could use right now gph will start going and on me

[crisp estuary]

Bet

[hollow gust]

if its bad, its bad, what do you expect

[storm heron]

is 137 better for interception or +13 plygun?

[sharp socket]

you guys have already seen my HJ fritz avp

[barren tapir]

depends on the enemy, for kagerou prods im pretty sure 137 is best

[storm heron]

what's kagerou prods? the rammers?

[crisp estuary]

[barren tapir]

ch14 rammers

[storm heron]

what is hj

oh hawk

[barren tapir]

for ch15 its not as good bc its mostly regular suicides but theres also prods that move reasonably quick and can ram your vanguard and bb can help kill those

either way, they worked great for me personally

[crisp estuary]

Imagine needing rainbow secondaries
This game is really powercreep central since the first rainbow they added

[storm heron]

there's this one battle where my fusou kept dying and then finally unscathed after I swap the gun to the +13 ply out of rage

[sharp socket]

i forgot about enty while cooking my fleets and paper calcs say enty is TEX

paper calcs also seem to overvalue CVs while undervaluing BBs but anw

[storm heron]

:nagathonk: I thought it's the opposite

[sharp socket]

lars calc thinks my BBs will do 300k to maihou and CVs 1.4m but its actually 1.1m BBs and 800k-1m CVs

[storm heron]

interesting lars calc...

[barren tapir]

you sure you input things right

[hollow gust]

i still dont know how to use it

[barren tapir]

like taihou aa, and battle length etc

[sharp socket]

i selected taihou boss in enemy tab

[barren tapir]

and her eva and lck

[storm heron]

just choose enemy taihou

[barren tapir]

whack, idk why u get that result

ask lars

[storm heron]

u sure you didn't put minus tech on the bb fp and 1000 avi tech?

[barren tapir]

also you do have to enable using enemy aa in the dmg calc iirc...

also calc doesnt include many skills or barrages or etc etc so

[fiery raptor]

ehp says felix is tougher than z52, does this hold up in action? this affects my fleet ordering.

felix is fated

[barren tapir]

single battle yes, over many battles z52 should top

cos a huge part of her bulk is self sustain

[fiery raptor]

move bubbly boily chef to z52 as main tank then?

[sweet delta]

Because BBs have a lot more barrage damage, and calculator doesn't have barrages ||yet||

[sweet delta]

And bomb hit rate

[sharp socket]

it was like 2mil before i enabled various things that looked important

[storm heron]

100% bomb hit rate looks op

[dreamy blade]

is there a trick for arizona meta to avoid having to manual my ships out of the fog

[viscid swift]

Have a really fast moving vanguard

[eternal moth]

Boilers were pretty commonly used IIRC

[dreamy blade]

hm yeah beaver tag alone isnt cutting it

[viscid swift]

I used boilers even with a triple DD vanguard

[eternal moth]

Shima and any of the Le Fantastique class should help

[dreamy blade]

i dont have shima and my fantastique ships arent leveled, and i dont have any of the tanky dds

[viscid swift]

well good luck then

[dreamy blade]

i guess it's not really worth that much effort optimizing to save ~40 oil a day

[eternal moth]

Ply was pretty common too IIRC

[zenith heron]

does AL, have a "damage split" mechanic where it deals the same dmg on a single enemy when it deals on AOE?

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[dreamy blade]

my ply is only dev25

[eternal moth]

Like, a set amount of damage that gets split up? If so, I'm pretty sure the answer is no

[zenith heron]

ok thanks, I thought some equipment have that, and I wish to experiment on it...

[plain saffron]

If an aoe bullet hit multiple enemy they all get same amount, not split

Excluding crit etc, You get the idea

[dreamy blade]

is the 155 kai a massive improvement for fdg's aux gun in w14, currently using this

[viscid swift]

yes

[dreamy blade]

i have fritz in the mob fleet with her as well, is it worth crafting 2 to put 1 on her too?

[viscid swift]

not really

[dreamy blade]

do i need 1 in my boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

preferably yes

[barren tapir]

ch14 gamer

[dreamy blade]

which would be better on fritz then

[barren tapir]

staag

[dreamy blade]

fdg as the solo bb is enough interception?

[barren tapir]

i dont think her cl gun would help to much

oh well maybe it'd matter actually, forgot i used the cheat code

[dreamy blade]

yeah i dont have momo raised

[split umbra]

Need help for gear recommendation for this month Opsi

[clever lance]

How much dorm food do we get per week and what quests are they from?

[eternal moth]

Cheat code? You mean momo I assume?

[storm heron]

momo S tier w14

[eternal moth]

Well, that's not going to help my alt unfortunately.

[dreamy blade]

i know the ectl guide is very outdated but is this portion still accurate

[viscid swift]

yes, no

[dreamy blade]

yes for lighthouse, no for flares?

[viscid swift]

yes

[dreamy blade]

what are the flares for then

[forest palm]

it's a novel mechanic that just ends up making the run annoying

doesn't benefit you for mob, or boss, and just actively puts you at a disadvantage

[dreamy blade]

ok so just ignore them then

[daring light]

is nagato meta better with or without ijn fleet?

[dreamy blade]

without

[forest palm]

faction fleets are a waste of time

[daring light]

ouw sheesh okkie

[dreamy blade]

you want her improved barrage as it makes her good for mobbing

[barren tapir]

yus

she is ridiculous, gives you 75% uptime immunity against all forms of suicide boat and rammer in ch14. ch15 less good bc her plant on bottom doesnt block suicide boat lane smh, nerfed momo back in 2023

the funny part is her plants also have a 30% chance to be completely immune to all damage for their duration when using rudder so like...impenetrable defense on ch14

[bold cove]

Do we know we will have good BB soon?

[barren tapir]

on top of that, good personal dmg, fleetwide dmg and healing (also eva early iirc but one at a time) and reasonably durable herself

and 25% slow high uptime from...aoa? idk actually. but thats a minor effect

[stark quiver]

if soon is around half a year then bis zwei might return around that time, anything before we have no clue

[sweet delta]

3* DD node is the difficult one?

[barren tapir]

me when even when running triple cv ch15, 3* dd node was by far the easiest and it wasnt remotely close

[tender girder]

the event ticket. does it give you 1 more drop or something?
i can't tell the different between running HARD with ticket and without ticket

[eternal moth]

It gives you a lot more chances of BP

[tender girder]

hm? BP = ?

[eternal moth]

blueprint drops

[tender girder]

ah right

[eternal moth]

This isn't #al-general

[dry ice]

thx, idk how I got here

[ornate scarab]

What does OPS damage boost stand for

[eternal moth]

Operation siren

[ornate scarab]

So that’s what I’ve been toiling away getting gold plates for

[eternal moth]

No, it's the coefficient. Weapons get up to an 18% damage bonus at +13

Coefficient isn't the same as the OPS bonus

[carmine heath]

Whats the best map to farm oil aand money, 12-4?

[eternal moth]

Generally yeah

The wiki gives a little more information than you can see in-game.

[crimson glacier]

you cant farm oil

[keen sable]

farming oil...
12+ for money

[carmine heath]

I meant xp

brain not worky

[keen sable]

also 12+

[soft wind]

is the 1k oil commission usually a scam unless its orbs?

[ornate scarab]

Depends how often you play

[next nova]

Quick question, i have kronshtadt and shinano, and have my ur exchange full. Do i get New Jersey (mommy) or shimakaze xd

the only DD i have "usable" rn is laffey lmao

[ornate scarab]

Laffy or laffy2?

[wind hazel]

shinano until max limit break>NJ/UVH>Kron>Shima

[next nova]

normal laffey lol

[wind hazel]

also don't build in special or heavy. build one Light daily

[ornate scarab]

Isn’t NJ>UVH?

[crimson glacier]

no

[next nova]

Thats what im doing 😄

[carmine heath]

How do you only have laffey as a usable dd?

[ornate scarab]

News to me, maybe it’s just cause I use her more lol

[crimson glacier]

NJ is only better than uvh if she is like your only UR BB

[next nova]

uhhh, dont ask questions. Dumb early mistakes lol

[wind hazel]

how do you get kron shinano and full pity if that's what you're doing, when the only DD you have is laffey

[crimson glacier]

coz most UR BBs are just a lot better than either of them

[next nova]

lets just say im an irrisponsible spender

[crimson glacier]

so eventually uvh is just more useful than NJ since she atleast has niche while NJ has none

[next nova]

or i just do what i do in every gacha and just throw more money at it 😄 then i can get everyone lol

[wind hazel]

that works, yes

[whole crypt]

ch15 what changes with clearing mode

[wind hazel]

superCV gone, boss fleet fight all 3 boss nodes

[whole crypt]

[wind hazel]

and lower ACV or something

[whole crypt]

guess current setup will do then

[wind hazel]

but i think that applies to every ch iirc🏃🏼‍➡️

[wary skiff]

ye i can confirm, I got Chapayev on the 40th boss run, so might as well finish out the 60 for a limit break

[ornate scarab]

I got mine on 59 and thought heck I was going for pity anyways and got the limitbreak

[wary skiff]

any other chapters worth to do? tallinn one?

[sweet delta]

slash wiki chapter 15p

[zenith heron]

How much of an impact did the SuperCV had compared to now?

[next nova]

alright i caved for waifu xD

[wind hazel]

well it's a lot easier on autoclear

can't say the same for the 3 bosses tho lol

[barren tapir]

hmm maybe i should try 3* 15-1

[wind hazel]

unironically i think manual before clear was easier than autoclear

[barren tapir]

hmmhow much easier would 15-1 be on clearing mode...enough to auto?

[hallow mountain]

is there a tier list for main guns?

i have some cores i wanna spend on the shop

[cobalt rapids]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hallow mountain]

thanks

[sweet delta]

But just manual clear ten more times and auto clear becomes a cakewalk

[barren tapir]

very true tho...

[thorn tartan]

i have about 30k points in the spring fashion festa event. Is there any reason to keep farming it?

[wind hazel]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

gold plates

[thorn tartan]

oh, i see. i'll keep at it. What does the ex give that hard doesnt?

[wind hazel]

more points

[thorn tartan]

that's it?

[wind hazel]

slightly better rewards i guess, but usually you do EX because it's more point per oil, granted you can get uh, i forgot the breakpoint, >192 score or something

[thorn tartan]

i only have the two top awards still to get, a couple bps and a rainbow box i think

[hallow mountain]

what's the best thing to buy at the core shop atm?

preferably guns because I think im missing a lot

[wind hazel]

that's custom challenge isn't it

[wind hazel]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[wind hazel]

what kind of gun do you need? there's a lot of other alternatives

[thorn tartan]

I haven't bought anything from the core shop since the first few months playing the game.......

should i be bying cog arrays? is it limited monthly?

[barren tapir]

arrays and cogs...

ive even gone against conventional wisdom and bought both every month after my first

aka before i had even 1 shell pair

[thorn tartan]

i have never run out of either. i bought 4 of each shell.

[barren tapir]

cos long term value is what i saw, owo

[thorn tartan]

i'd say my arrays are the most likely to run out, but I have about 1900 right now i think

[wind hazel]

everything on core resets every month, so buy them if you can

[thorn tartan]

i'll start buy arrays maybe. I have tons of chips.

[hallow mountain]

bb

main guns or guns for CA

[wind hazel]

get mk6 from techbox

get eugen gun from ironblood techbox for CA gun

you'll find twin 150 purple from ib techbox too, good cl gun

[thorn tartan]

when does this fashion event end?

[wind hazel]

next week

[thorn tartan]

I haven't pulled for any of the event light ships. I think i'm missing one or two.

[crimson glacier]

ok

[thorn tartan]

am i missing out?

[wind hazel]

not really

[thorn tartan]

i'm going to read the datamine for a sec

i just did my 15 daily hard runs. No gold plates. All purples.

[wind hazel]

what gold plates...

they are from the milestone, not from the hard map lol

[thorn tartan]

someone said to do the hard runs for gold plates........

oh i got the milestones already......

[wind hazel]

but you said 30k...

[thorn tartan]

it was an estimate......

[wind hazel]

gold plates are at 38k

[thorn tartan]

okay, so i'm at 40k.

[wind hazel]

idk about others but i do 48k for the DR prints

[thorn tartan]

may as well. I can't find anything else to do. When does the event end?

[wind hazel]

😭

[vale spindle]

me who just wants pure afk experience so i still do 15 run spam

[nimble knoll]

Purple Tenzan Or Purple Helldiver, Which is better?

[vale spindle]

different plane types, but both are good within their respective plane type

[nimble knoll]

Which one in terms of Dmg is bettah?

[vale spindle]

tenzan if everything hits

[barren tapir]

isnt it similar length to 3x 12-1/4?

[thorn tartan]

What is Bolzano meta? the next ship?

[wind hazel]

next cruise meta ship

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[vale spindle]

probably but then i have to dock manage
although now i have a lot of dock space so its not much of a concern

[thorn tartan]

there are 3 new ships in the event light pool am i correct?

[vale spindle]

3 limited rate up ships yes
i believe they also added some past ships to standard and some of those are in light standard as well

[thorn tartan]

are the limited rate up ships perm light pool?

[vale spindle]

no they are actual limited event ships and go away when event ends

wait

[thorn tartan]

maybe i'll try for them. 1 cube isn't too costly

[vale spindle]

normally you daily light build anyways when cube saving

[thorn tartan]

yeah, but i haven't gotten the limited ships.......

this event still has 9 days?

[slow fox]

Can't spell misinformation without Sam

Ren Ningen spotted

[plain saffron]

Hi bot

[thorn tartan]

missing chien and hai yung. I got 9 more days to find them.

[icy cave]

Is LNY the only event build that is light?

[eternal basalt]

Some 1-ship only events too, but 1.4% and it''s been a loooooooong time we got those

[supple ember]

can you retire meowficers?

[cobalt rapids]

feed to other cats

[thorn tartan]

you can use them to enhance other cats

[supple ember]

oh ok, idk which ones are good tho lol

[storm heron]

[thorn tartan]

there is a cat guide somewhere. it's helpful

[supple ember]

is there a tier list for them?

[cobalt rapids]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[nimble knoll]

Which one should I retrofit next? (Dunno why Uni isn't there but meh)

[thorn tartan]

what do you need?

[nimble knoll]

More Trp I guess? Because I can't do w-7 hm

[thorn tartan]

an shan is supposed to be a rockn DD. if you need one

and you just got the special missile for her

[storm heron]

just retro fu shun, the material was free

an shan gonna cost a quarter a bulin

[barren tapir]

fu shun if you gonna do any ddg now

[nimble knoll]

Alright then

[thorn tartan]

my doc says i have 80 ships to retrofit........

[storm heron]

probably hundreds on mine

[thorn tartan]

I retro when I have coin to burn.

like during this long event.

what is the armor on the monthly challenge ship?

[storm heron]

moyenne

[molten zinc]

Katsuragi? Medium

[storm heron]

oh yeah I mean medium

[thorn tartan]

yeah, wiki says medium

is there anyway to disable the pause when bb's fire?

[barren tapir]

nop

[storm heron]

is Rising Star just inferior to Best Friend?

[slow fox]

:kisaragi:

[nocturne glade]

is rumey worth 125ing?

[thorn tartan]

I've noticed that my unicorn launches on the 20 sec marks. Does it change much with reload tech improvements?

[storm heron]

my unicorn can launch at 17s

[thorn tartan]

that is better!

[storm heron]

so yeah definitely

[crimson glacier]

17 sounds like sacrificing dmg

[thorn tartan]

oh it depends on the planes......

[granite rain]

What's the best poverty purple gun for San Diego w/retro and aug

[storm heron]

tigercat and breguet I guess

[steel lava]

What's the difference between 'Buy Set' and 'Buy All' ?

[thorn tartan]

some sets have more than one of the same pieces.

[crimson glacier]

my uni looks like this with 2 catas

[thorn tartan]

what are catas?

[crimson glacier]

catapults

[steel lava]

Thanks

[storm heron]

I don't have enough wyverns

[crimson glacier]

dont you think its bit misleading to call 17.98 "17"

[thorn tartan]

do the catas speed them up? i thought they added avi

[crimson glacier]

they dont, thats the point

[granite rain]

Any help on this?

[nocturne glade]

Where are breguets used?

[storm heron]

true

[crimson glacier]

breguet is just weaker wyvern

[molten zinc]

either a Wyvern at home, or use on Nakhimov for 4-airstrike set up

[nocturne glade]

I see

[jaunty vault]

breguet is just a better barracuda

[thorn tartan]

Mine is equipped about the same but it says 19.99

[jaunty vault]

i dont think anyone with sandy retrofit+aug is not gonna have access to gold guns

[crimson glacier]

i have maxed tech

[granite rain]

You're talking to one.

[crimson glacier]

uni probably oathed too

[thorn tartan]

yeah, i figured. so the difference is about 1 sec

does oath speed up anything?

[crimson glacier]

it gives 6% more reload

[nocturne glade]

so just a wave clearer?

[storm heron]

nah I didn't oath anybody but sandy

[thorn tartan]

what's the +44 from?

[crimson glacier]

tech

[thorn tartan]

i dont' have a plus?

[jaunty vault]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_120mm_(QF_Mark_XII)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[crimson glacier]

press this

[storm heron]

wait that's an oathed uni

[granite rain]

Well, that's what I thought. Ty

[crimson glacier]

i mean i did say shes probably oathed

[thorn tartan]

i have no plus. Does that mean i have no relaod cv tech?

[jaunty vault]

i like calling it a parallel TB but yes

[storm heron]

bro didn't even remember the name of 79th oathed ship

[eternal basalt]

Is for max lmb units

[storm heron]

[crimson glacier]

i think his uni is max limit broken

and if nothing appears when you press it then you dont have tech

[eternal basalt]

Unicorn gives +1 RLD if lvl 120 though

[thorn tartan]

i guess not....... but i'm fix'n to do Souryuu and Souryuu meta. That should be worth 4 according to wiki

[storm heron]

as long as you can farm w12 sure

[thorn tartan]

I have no plus. mine says 188

[vale spindle]

misamformation

[slow fox]

Misinformebot

[crimson glacier]

you can also see all your tech stats in the fleet tech menu

[jaunty vault]

there's no cooper in misinformation

[thorn tartan]

I've never seen this place until now. cool

[crimson glacier]

press the details button at the top

it shows all stats you get for all ship types

so for uni you would want to see the cvl part

[thorn tartan]

ah, it says my cvl reload is +20. But it didn't have a plus on the ship gear screen. Maybe I was using a different place than you

[crimson glacier]

did you really press the button

it swaps between showing your stat bonuses from gear and tech

[thorn tartan]

yes. details.

oh......

[crimson glacier]

no i mean this button at unicorns stats

[thorn tartan]

Okay, I never noticed that either

[crimson glacier]

its always on gear by default

[thorn tartan]

wow, that's a tiny button on my phone screen

maybe i should learn about the other little buttons called loadouts, quick swap and preset

preset looks useful

[barren tapir]

it's okay i don't use those either

[thorn tartan]

i don't usually change much other than the first slot in CVs and BBs depending on armor types

[bright tusk]

is it ok to bring guam and sandy together in w15? even if sandy won't get the AA buff because she has 100 more AA than guam?

[thorn tartan]

i used them both in my boss fleet on W15, finished it a few days ago, 3 star

I also used Plymouth as tank. She was the weakest link

[crimson glacier]

both of those are really good for w15

[thorn tartan]

but it worked if evaded a bit during the boss battles 1 and 3

[crimson glacier]

guam is practically made for w15 and sandy is just sandy

[nocturne glade]

are these fine for anchorage? Dont have the iris ones and they had lower cd than the quad normal torps

[crimson glacier]

its fine

[barren tapir]

makes sense cos ply isnt particularly tank material

but if it works it works

[patent raft]

Should i lock in (pull all cube) until i get shinano or any ultra rare ship girl until can ultra rare exchange or nah?

[nocturne glade]

save for ur event banners

[patent raft]

What's the next event banner this time?

[nocturne glade]

not too sure

[patent raft]

Alright

[dreamy blade]

absolutely not

[patent raft]

Hmm alright then. I save up instead

[dreamy blade]

especially when you dont even have half the cubes to guarantee a UR pity

[patent raft]

Ok.. Gotta headed to off topic

[carmine heath]

286 already in the ur pity pile so technically they do

[dreamy blade]

im talking about the 400 cubes you need to pity a UR banner, not the perma selector

[plain saffron]

Don't spend your cubes chasing permanent ships

[patent raft]

Alright

[tender girder]

is royal ark and sartago worth going beyond lv 100?

[plain saffron]

Those pity is for permanent UR
Event UR pity doesn't carry over

[patent raft]

Then what best ultra rare ship girl do you think?

[plain saffron]

For permanent?

[patent raft]

No. The upcoming event if possible

[crimson glacier]

well if its upcoming how are we supposed to know

[patent raft]

Just save up just in case if it well rerun again

Musashi is possible to rerun again or no?

[carmine heath]

is it worth it to get sandy's augment even if she's underleveled and I cant get the augment to lvl 10

[crimson glacier]

next time musashi is available is when they add her to perma

[patent raft]

Oh

[crimson glacier]

isnt the augment pretty expensive?

and doesnt the skill only get active when its +10

[shell willow]

21k and yes

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[summer spade]

Dorm room or tactical class slot? Which one should i invest in?

[tame jungle]

dorm

[worldly pewter]

don't invest into the skill class
the rest is up to ur needs

[dawn ledge]

The best way to farm xp for shipment is 12-4 right or there's an alternative ?

[worldly pewter]

what is shipment ?

[tame jungle]

dorm should be 3 slots and 2nd floor to at least ensure you can farm with full fleets
rest of the freebie gems go into dock space

[dawn ledge]

To recruit like roon

[summer spade]

Sooo ill just go buy the 2nd floor?

[fiery raptor]

world 11 or better, 12-4 is one of the good ones yes

[worldly pewter]

cdc
it depends on ur stage and active events

[dawn ledge]

I'm at 10-1 currently

[fiery raptor]

events like the one right now are good too, especially since it drop rudder blueprints

[tame jungle]

yes

[fiery raptor]

do event then

[dawn ledge]

I'm getting 4% everyday it's slow

[fiery raptor]

push campaign between events until you get w12

4% is decent

[dawn ledge]

I will just do the campaign honestly

[worldly pewter]

can u show ur vanguard fleet ?

[summer spade]

I have 8 slots now wow

[summer spade]

Thats amazing 4 in 1st floor and another 4 in 2nd NOICE

[dawn ledge]

[fiery raptor]

yeah do event for now you want mlb ships to push 12

[nocturne glade]

is laffey's augment worth it?

[fiery raptor]

yes

laffey doing w14 is pretty good as far as starters go

[nocturne glade]

great, ty!

[whole crypt]

LB Z52, if you can't LB her use a different ship
same for UvH
not sure what ship you're doing but you don't need the whole fleet to be KMS

[fiery raptor]

yeah roon only needs vanguard

[whole crypt]

4% a day is very slow even with 10-1, not sure how many runs you're doing a day, make sure you work with morale bonus

[worldly pewter]

well this fleet won't make u push inside w11 unless maybe some manual 🕹️
there is a bonus xp gained when the ship is above 120 moral so try to put the 3 vanguards in the dorm and keep watching their morals other than that
campaign is usually the better source for xp

[whole crypt]

4% for CPC1 is literally just 1 run of 12-4

[dawn ledge]

I'm doing hindenburg and it's 64% i started since a week

[whole crypt]

that also only needs vanguard

[fiery raptor]

hindo is also vanguard only

agir is the only one that need both

[whole crypt]

DRs need 20% more XP, but even then 4% a day is really low, how many runs are you doing in a day

[dawn ledge]

I can't put 3 vanguard in the dorm

You need to buy a slot

[worldly pewter]

yeah buy a slot

[whole crypt]

Agir needs both but only either vanguard or main fleet at any one time depending on CPC1 or 2

[tender girder]

if a character is maxed out (say unicorn)... what happens when she is the MVP? the experience just becomes 0? or do other characters get MVP?

[fiery raptor]

is it combat 1 or 2 when i did my hindo i was doing 3 13-4 a day since events and opsi are worked on too

[whole crypt]

dorm expansions are recommended, at least up to 3 slots + 2/F

but really even without morale bonus you should have more than 4% from 10-1 if you do like 3-4 runs a day

[summer spade]

Exp goes to lecture hall

[fiery raptor]

also why rush hindo, do you have 2 hindo/drake guns ready?

[dawn ledge]

I did 10% yesterday by rushing to 10-1

[whole crypt]

all XP calc is done as normal for lecture hall and PR grind, the maxed ship herself just doesn't gain anything

[summer spade]

And then becomes t1 EXP data pack

[worldly pewter]

the exp is wasted after 3m storage

[bright tusk]

nakhimov for 15-4 boss better use flapjack/flapjack/wyvern or flapjack/wyvern/wyvern or what?

[dawn ledge]

Because she's the only one i want mainly

[whole crypt]

yeh lower stages are shit, just take your time, even if you finish Hindenburg dev now she's not going to be useful for another 2 months at least

[fiery raptor]

i'd go with the first even the boss fleet needs good fighter coverage imo, and this is with 11 tigercats and 8 wyverns involved

[worldly pewter]

also it is good to think about how to make the ships usable because rushing them and putting them in the dock is just +1 space until making use of them

[fiery raptor]

my yorkii and volga get beat to shit in the boss nodes, volga being down a third after just 1 boss (out of three) is common

[whole crypt]

I mean you don't need 2 rainbow CA guns to make Hidnenburg do good damage, they just make her do great damage

[dawn ledge]

So i should buy a slot on the dorm ?

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

the problem is you can't do that until Hindenburg is dev30, which basically means she does nothing until then even if you have rainbow CA guns lying around

[dawn ledge]

The 4% is about the current event
I got like 10% from 9-1 to 10-1

[whole crypt]

like I said it doesn't matter unless you actually already have 513 prints for Hindenburg

finishing her dev now or in 2 weeks isn't going to make a difference if you don't have enough prints

[worldly pewter]

he is using a 0lb uvh and z52 so i think he is missing some fundamentals

[fiery raptor]

i dev 30 hindenborgar as soon as i got her and waited until i had 2 drake guns and now 2 hindo guns before i felt good about using her to push content.

[shell willow]

like 98% of new players

[whole crypt]

her damage is fine with 2 roon guns really

[dawn ledge]

I used all my ur bullin for fritz

[whole crypt]

it's not top but if that's all you've got she's still a decent damage ship

[whole crypt]

you could have used another KMS ship for the grind first

[worldly pewter]

fritz is a strong ship and u should use her
but that doesn't mean u should use the others

[whole crypt]

like any other MLB'd KMS vanguard would do, also just replace UvH with a BB that's actually good and MLB'd

[fiery raptor]

imagine using purple scharnhorst and gnei to farm exp for FDG back in the day because they all was availale

[tame jungle]

was me

[worldly pewter]

as an early progression
rushing to hinden will hit u in the ankle
better get fdg then agir

[summer spade]

Yeah thats my problem rn i have like 4 whole rows of 3 star unused SSR's

[fiery raptor]

yeah i defenitely had the vibes hindo needed prep beyond the unlock reqs

equip and skilling resources kind of prep

[worldly pewter]

yeah even for an ib enjoyer i can't warrant anyone to rush her
~~ although i was tempted to do it too when i started ~~ and gladly that i didn't

[dreamy blade]

also going the normal route of fdg->ancho->agir, by the time you start hindy she might have coin up

[tender girder]

well as a new player who started last week... that's where i'm at

grinding combat battle just to get roon

[fossil shard]

Is there a cats guide?

[tame jungle]

do /cats in #bot-spam

[worldly pewter]

coining dr6 is in 2 years i think for an active player it should be done before

[dreamy blade]

oops i meant catchup not coin up

[tender girder]

currently grinding D4 archive..
running 3 KMZ.. scharnhorst, Z23, and Z1

and 3 normal characters

[left cedar]

i did farm FdG with Zeppy/Schar/Gnei cuz i did reach too late for Bis, Tirp and GZ

[worldly pewter]

dr6 have catchup now

[dreamy blade]

oh did they just add that, im still on dr4 catchup

[dawn ledge]

Since i can mlb tripitz i should use her instead of ulrich?

[woven star]

And some coin for other ships. Agir, Haku

[shell sigil]

Is it possible to construct Guam now?

[worldly pewter]

that is an alt who did the construction when the banner happened

[fiery raptor]

one of my guildies claimed his amagi cv a month late because he had to go overseas for a while

[shell sigil]

Ok ok, sad sounds thank you guys

[worldly pewter]

that is a gacha roll if someone reaches a pity he has to do it during the banner

[fiery raptor]

yeah never got around to claiming his 10 roll before he had to go

[carmine heath]

What's the research order for pr ships? Can I randomly switch to pr4/5 or is finishing pr1 better?

[fiery raptor]

i think i also saw a similar nj years ago after her 1st banner before selector

[barren tapir]

dock

[crimson glacier]

pr1 has no good ships

[tame jungle]

come on now boy

[worldly pewter]

but the game doesn't leave u missing instant construction items why did he not do it that is kinda weird technically

[barren tapir]

wait is this a thing, i need to try it

[barren tapir]

honestly i would say no unless you really like her, same for any starter (maybe ayanami is worth as poor mans shima?)

[fiery raptor]

this was a thing as soon as she got her carrot dude before w15 existed

[barren tapir]

i havent used laffey in months, is she actually viable in ch14 lol

[fiery raptor]

get laffey her carrot... send her to hell to see what happens (oh crap she didn't die)

[woven star]

If no order pr quest then yes. But try to construct coinable ships

[wind hazel]

usually it goes by unlocking first PR1 ship, then move onto FDG if possible, or Anchorage PR4, rest of PR4, then PR5/7. after that it's whatever you need

[carmine heath]

Still on the rookie/starter quests

[barren tapir]

i have her carrot, i made it when i was new and dumb

but like is this actually legit, i feel like with her 59% ehp she will just fucking die instantly

[worldly pewter]

i think this depends on the entire fleet rather than her alone
so it depends in the end imo

[barren tapir]

id love to have a reason to use my starter again...

[carmine heath]

In my experience laffey has garbage survivability even compared to ships ~20lvls lower than her with worse gear

[fiery raptor]

well laffey did okay w14 mobbing as the hogholder. i think she was running with sanfran and suzutsuki. could be safe threat but she could hold up auto farming till boss shows up

[wind hazel]

reason

1. she's not lv120 yet

[worldly pewter]

me too but my starter is a boss killer ayaya

[barren tapir]

well that's what 59% ehp (WITH her augment) is like...no doubt

[tame jungle]

the hogholder is a crazy way to refer to the ship carrying hedgehog

[wind hazel]

i can't think of reason 2)

[barren tapir]

sadly she is indeed 120

[tame jungle]

is she lv125

[wind hazel]

then i dont think there's any reason to use her when you have something better

[barren tapir]

she actually has enough exp to 125 LOL

but do i do it for sentimentality or wait until im rich in arrays

[molten zinc]

I just scrap all the starter when they reach 120

[quartz jungle]

Oh you're JP server?

[wind hazel]

no, i need my z23 armpit on my pvp def

[barren tapir]

absolutely fucking cold

[molten zinc]

[wind hazel]

wait it's javelin

[barren tapir]

id rather grind 2-1 for 2 months to save up 200 gems to get enough slots to hold my starter than ever kill her off

[quartz jungle]

Same lol

[barren tapir]

im actually disgusted and not in a joking way, you do you but jesus.

[tame jungle]

it's not that serious

[barren tapir]

ive actually retrofitted all 3 and ayanami will be done soon too because they are precious

[worldly pewter]

me and nntktt are jp spies

[barren tapir]

maybe not to you

but back on topic, im just curious if laff actually can survive, i have the ships to full auto regardless so long as she lives

[fiery raptor]

now that i think about maybe uniretro and volga killing everything is what kept laffey with carrot alive and not the carrot

[sharp socket]

laffey lives opsi stronghold

[quartz jungle]

Just use Eldridge and the other Laffey II

[barren tapir]

i mean 10% per battle is actually pretty good but its also 10% of 59% ehp

[soft wind]

should i be pulling rn if i have nothing but random ships from stage clears

[barren tapir]

1light a day only

[fiery raptor]

my laffey stayed in the green hp, were you planning to boss with her instead of mob?

[barren tapir]

i have neither

it'd prolly be neptune+momo sandwiching laff

[carmine heath]

12-4 autoing with only one fleet is painful

[worldly pewter]

i have yat sen and ty dying with anchorage

[sharp socket]

not main tank obviously but she lives middle which is like +200% ehp

[barren tapir]

nah definitely mob! id love to use her like fr, im prolly gonna carry some waifus through ch14 as i clear down to safe and 3* just cos

[wind hazel]

then use two

[fiery raptor]

i ran her with 128skc quad mag bofors toolbox and DA HOG as long as mob main is double healer i think the gun bunny will do alright.

[sharp socket]

just use crossfleet for boss it saves you a whole lot of trouble

[tame jungle]

just to confirm that i haven't missed anything, there's no official confirmation for the contents of the next gear lab update yet right?

[woven star]

You should have fu shun. Invest in her

[molten zinc]

new update on 20th Feb

[tame jungle]

right, guess i'll just have to wait faster

[fiery raptor]

i mean arethusa dude cleared w14 lethal with arethusa lmao

[barren tapir]

i wonder, does laffey big rld make hog go BRRRR and kill all subs instantly

[molten zinc]

contain all the PR4 gear and 3 new gear: UR AA for USS, KMS Fighter, ASW plane for HMS

[barren tapir]

i wanna clear with z9 tbh

[soft wind]

higher or lower prio than portland/javelin?

[barren tapir]

hell maybe even run a z fleet with z52 z1 z9...think it could mob? LOL

[soft wind]

seeing as she's gonna be team 2 material for me for the time being

[woven star]

From Port->fushun. Jevel only for beginners quesst

[wind hazel]

lower. focus on beginner fleet if you're a beginner

[barren tapir]

ive never done ch14 without momo tho so

[carmine heath]

6th dorm slot or more dock slots

[quartz jungle]

Whoever's on offtank is going to lose a lot of HP

[barren tapir]

[fiery raptor]

one of our kms wehraboos cleared w14 lethal with no asw esdeath i think? they did have a lot of surface damage though so with 3 kms dd backline will work harder but with zwei and rumey they might do okay

[barren tapir]

z1 is 67%
z9 solo is 59%, with z1...i wanna guesstimate ~75%

i mean if laffey works

i have double healer

[fiery raptor]

i think i'd go with double healer with that, but i'm not sure which kms backliner nuker to back them with, or musashi carry

[barren tapir]

doesnt need to be kms but my ol-reliable is ruppy

ill definitely give it a shot, but i need to max z1 first ofc

[fiery raptor]

didn't ruppy have issues up there? i rmember people talked ruppy a lot of shit, that may be before she got fate though

[barren tapir]

worked fine but ofc i had momo so

[quartz jungle]

Nah it'll be close to Z1, 65-70%

[barren tapir]

on 14-4 when i had ruppy as mob flag my mob could do 4 3* bb nodes in a row and lose 0 hp on any ship. with ammo, granted.

[barren tapir]

40% eva is a lot bc z9 has low eva to begin with

ive no doubt its at least 15% ehp

[fiery raptor]

if fated ruppy is stronger than hood with aug it should be fine. i don't have ruppy yet

[cobalt rapids]

much stronger

[barren tapir]

should be much stronger

[fiery raptor]

dev 30 120 hindenburg but not ruppy lol

[cobalt rapids]

hood is rly not that strong

[barren tapir]

her intercept is on the weaker side but momo completely cancelled that weakness and ruppy also brings very high consistent dmg uptime, she's basically always doing dps

which i think tends to make up for some of her shortcomings, if mobbing

[fiery raptor]

yeah it was a baseline since hood with aug had no issues kicking w14-4 around so if stronger it should be ok

[barren tapir]

honestly with uni+aquila+momo youd have to be a pretty bad bb to be unable to limp through ch14 mob

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur fleet
hood can get by but its not like shes carrying the fleet, at most shes not a dead weight

[barren tapir]

bet even nelson works with that sort of fleet comp

[cobalt rapids]

nelson is better than hood so naturally

[barren tapir]

oh okay, pennsylvania then

[fiery raptor]

i think it was azuma wakatsuki kitakaze, hood was taking mvp i think i was farming shimanto exp lol

[barren tapir]

i wanna try her and see if momo can carry her, tbh. i like penny

[fiery raptor]

granted hood was running around with a 457 but still

[barren tapir]

man i need a 457

actually i thought of something...can erebus do ch14? with a good fleet

[fiery raptor]

i think airbus would need a carry and not fighting the bb nodes

[barren tapir]

it'd be interesting to test the limits of uni+aquila+momo+z52 carry

[late flame]

maybe corpse carry

[carmine heath]

For fritz is there a better gun to put on her than triple 155 kai?

[fiery raptor]

plygun

[barren tapir]

honestly i dont even think she'd be that bad ngl, i dont remember my flag ever taking damage really

[fiery raptor]

is airbus barrage on maingun proc?

[barren tapir]

no, every 20s (60%)

its a great barrage like unironically, just hampered by proc chance and on a bad vessel

ill put it in my notebook to potentially try, id have to raise her from 0lb low oil farmer tho

she is cute and worthy of having a ch14 clear to her name however so...definitely willing to attempt someday

[fiery raptor]

hood really needed that guaranteed proc to help her. if she's still weighed down by rng proc i don't think id recommend hood for 14

[barren tapir]

ngl im not too sure how important a strong bb flag really is, assuming you're not trying to 3* on lethal

[fiery raptor]

lol 457 with 134 gamer table and bitish shell,, blinged out airbus

[barren tapir]

because desynced uni aquila with strong vg does a ton of combined damage already

like when i put nana in mob she was the one mvping half the time, not the bb lmfao

[fiery raptor]

if you're not 3 starring lethal you can get away with a lot

[barren tapir]

and i know momo got some mvps also somehow...

[fiery raptor]

is nana one of the barrage spammers like z52/shima/scylla?

i remember kiev being like that when i was leveling NP ships in 14-4 while farming NO

i have not mlb any of the to love ru ships aside from the gold dd oh that's nana works for me 😋

[quartz jungle]

Spitballing by Z46 I think you are right

[cobalt rapids]

shes turbo bad but even then u can carry her

[barren tapir]

ch14 well and truly powercreeped

[quartz jungle]

I have successfully copied hijacked Mebot's eHP calculator

[woven star]

except Z9 and Z52 do any ships have 'While this ship is afloat: decreases your' general damage? I mean Z9 decrease BC and BB all damage and z52 decrease flag. I saw others but most of them decrease specific damage (like damage from cv, cl, dd) or decrease damage for vanguard instead of main fleet

[plain saffron]

ehp chart already calc that iirc. wait i misundestood

[woven star]

Z9+Z52 almost -35% decrease if ship will be Musashi for ex.

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=1624531241#gid=1624531241 go through the ships who have at least a 1 in defense buffs column

[woven star]

I mean Musashi with Nelson's Pennant of Victory can absorb vanguard damage. question how far I can push BB flag ship damage decrease with vanguard

[molten zinc]

Fargo also have flagship dmg reduction I think

[cobalt rapids]

well the largest would be flag cover

[woven star]

5% from fargo, ok thx

[obsidian ivy]

We need ch16

[forest palm]

[barren tapir]

suffering for 12.5 dock slots, im in

[elfin hollow]

Fam what's the gauge on the PR development priority?

Mine's on 152/300

[dawn ledge]

uhh why???

[carmine heath]

Oh wait thats what a plygun is

[soft raft]

sounds like a desync
just force close and relaunch the game

[plucky basin]

Should i replace any of these with kirov

[dawn ledge]

thanks it fixed it

[soft raft]

Hell no

[plucky basin]

Isnt she good?

[soft raft]

Moderately average

Not good enough that I could justify spending SR Bullins on her early game

[warm trail]

[fiery raptor]

oh you can target endings now?

is that change applied to tb too?

[boreal wagon]

its not really targeting endings its just letting u pick one to view instantly

its showing u all the ones u unlocked and u can view them in archives later

[late flame]

you can unlock multiple endings during a single run, but you can only choose one to view, and it will be marked 'completed'

unlike TB there is no NEET ending, but if you click (i.e. skip turns) you will get TB's equivalent of her OL ending for Navi

#1204845559790440488

[warm trail]

oh so i unlocked 5, nice

[tulip zenith]

Ik faction fleets are suboptimal but would this be a good bb fleet

[late flame]

you'd technically need at least 3 runs if you want motorcyclist + therapist endings

[foggy chasm]

is it worth it getting taiyuan retro material?

i have 25k

but the 2 recent german UR is still not lbed at all

[hushed cliff]

I feel like my Shinano isn’t dealing very much damage does this plane load out suck or what it seems to do great on my other main carriers like Joffre

[keen sable]

That's catchup and maybe you shouldn't do it...

[forest palm]

because CV builds aren't simple

[keen sable]

No, fu shun exists

[soft raft]

if that's Bismarck Zwei, barely passes
if it's OG Bis, suboptimal

Also what is Avorora doing in a German fleet

[hushed cliff]

Should I change her setup?

[forest palm]

well it depends on what you're using Shinano for, and where you're using her

[hushed cliff]

Right now in a boss fleet with August

That’s why I gave her yellow Ryusei

[tulip zenith]

Ya its zwei also I just put avrora cuz I thought she would be good and I don’t really have any other good German vanguards

Only other decent one I have is otto and I’ve never used her idek what she does 😭

[keen sable]

Boss fleet for what? Is a basic loadout. Nothing special

And what level is joffre

[foggy chasm]

aight

[forest palm]

<@&472236072743600148> scam post

[woven star]

after fu shun maybe second place for an shan but it's still questionable "worth it"

[keen sable]

<@&472236072743600148>

[forest palm]

it's also in off topic

[inland shoal]

No need to ping twice

[crimson glacier]

now delete the same scam from offtopic

[forest palm]

unique has me mute

[atomic abyss]

ping reds for things like this

[forest palm]

unique should at least preface what they're pinging the mods for though

[atomic abyss]

not orange

[crimson glacier]

ender its your fault

[forest palm]

I thought that role also pings Amdins, unless something changed

[crimson glacier]

when only red i see online is res and idk if he is hybernating

[atomic abyss]

never has

[inland shoal]

That too. Though orange can still mute and delete them at least

[civic crag]

wtf we can coin pr4 now im gn run it down shld I coin agir or haku first

[crimson glacier]

some admins just have moderator too

[forest palm]

makes sense

[foggy cypress]

What’s the best aug for Fritz ?

[forest palm]

Scepter

[foggy cypress]

Thank you

[forest palm]

[keen sable]

<@&460646206851252224> spam

[little venture]

/ban 767690915292643339

[odd root]

nessgrv#0 got banned.

[patent raft]

Woah..

[late flame]

nice

[patent raft]

Anyway, is there a strategy that unlock different endings navi by any chance?

[vast lily]

No way a CC got hacked

[little venture]

Since a lot of them have contradicting requirements.
You baiscally just pick a stat and level it up to max.
If you can manage it, you can unlock multiple endings at once

[patent raft]

Right.

[keen sable]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 people were saying you can collect all endings in 3 or 4 runs but you can only view 1 at a time

[patent raft]

Alright thank

[late flame]

yup one can fulfill all endings in 4 runs max if you know what you are doing..
although* if gunning for 'completed' labels then 14 runs hehe

[turbid dawn]

So levelling these ships up in 12-4 right now. is YorkII only good against light and not very good at med+heavy. And is Sirius really worth using in CV fleets since she's only just out dmging a Kasumi meta who is level 107, 14 levels behind her. And idk how much 10% extra AVI really gives

[forest palm]

shouldn't really be caring about Sirius damage when she's mostly just a support, and the main reason she's in the fleet is to enable the main fleet to further push their damage

[turbid dawn]

I mean I compare her to Kaza, Kaza does dmg and gives a flat 15% dmg buff I think right? Is 10% avi really worht the lack fo any dmg from her?

[cobalt rapids]

yorkii plane config and current meta plane and barrage means light>med>heavy but shes UR cv
sirius 10% avi is usually less than ~10% dmg for the usuall ur cvs
and her 10% hitrate usually means more than 10% dmg when it works

[keen sable]

no, yesmaybe, 50% is not just. 10% approximately but read her skills

[turbid dawn]

I mean this is what I'm running on YorkII right now, I don't think I could get much better apart from swapping Wyvern for aimed ones but its 2 bosses anyway and hits like 60-70% of her bombs

[cobalt rapids]

give her a fighter that can intercept to farm more aa dmg so u get a happier endscreen

[turbid dawn]

Okay, back to Sirius then, when is she really worth using in CV fleets? And what spot does she take? Like an anti-light CV fleet that's going against a DD or CL or something?

[nimble knoll]

Should I just not fill the other cl spot?

[tropic tusk]

i think u needto fill them inoreder to start

[cobalt rapids]

when her buffs outweighs her competition, which tends to happen with a stacked backline and when her hitrate buff is activated more often than not
she can take any spot, sometimes used as tank because her buff persists post death and her pers dps is irrelev

[cunning bone]

is this fleets good for clearing all of chapter 15? the musashi one is the boss while nj one is mob

suggest need to improve or replace

[tropic tusk]

oh u can start without filling them?

[cobalt rapids]

remove percy from boss unless this is 15-4 and they are only doing 2nd boss
give musashi to mob
further adjustments need to see dock

[ivory pawn]

If you can clear without it, you don’t need to.

[ivory pawn]

You only need to fill one listed slot per main/vg.

[turbid dawn]

Her competition is ARA ships right, but the only time I can think of when you don't have that in VG is anti-light comp with Kear, YorkII and Implac right? (Implac is last UR Im missing now though I think)

And erm aurora

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur fleet
kear provides backline ara
if shes competing with ara and her hitrate buff is activated meaning DD/CL/CA enemy then her contribution is greater than any vang ara assuming u have rainbow carriers in the backline

[keen sable]

do you want to one fleet with 2 cl or 2 dd?

[cobalt rapids]

aurora debuff > sirius

[keen sable]

it's not

[turbid dawn]

Wdym?

[keen sable]

you can only have one ara but 3 vanguards. you don't put scrubs in the other two vanguards

like kasumi meta would just be bad

[cobalt rapids]

like for example ara gets pushed by aurora helena and sirius against light

[keen sable]

or ara gets pushed by kearsarge

[nimble knoll]

I don't have any other good DD's and CL's Tho

[turbid dawn]

Well that's my point right, for most ships in VG they either tank, support or do great personal dmg right? Sirius is obviously in support but seems to be a mix of weaker ARA+Aurora and the question is when would you want to use that specifically because I find it hard to think of any. If you need hit you'd go Aurora, if you need dmg you'd go Kaza because she has better buff+personal dmg

[cobalt rapids]

shes not a weaker ara when her hitrate buff works

[keen sable]

she also tanks

[cunning bone]

heres my ship that are built

[keen sable]

you have suzut

[cobalt rapids]

kazagumo dmg is also not something to write home about unless heavy

[turbid dawn]

'Tanks' lol even with these 2 def auxes she's always at like 10% by the time her 12-4 fight finishes and she's lvl 121

[nimble knoll]

not built doe

[cobalt rapids]

my bad, i shouldve mentioned in a thread

Sayoko ch15

[keen sable]

obviously

[turbid dawn]

Yeah sorry but it doesnt seem like Sirius is tanky at all

She's dying the same rate a DDG whose 13 levels behind her

And she has TB+Washing machine

[keen sable]

when 10% backline x 3 + sirius is greater than the alternative. add 15% backline *3 for 66% of arbiters and 60% of abyssals also.

[cobalt rapids]

she can take any spot, sometimes used as tank because her buff persists post death and her pers dps is irrelev
shes not used as tank because shes tanky

[turbid dawn]

Oh ngl didnt know her buff persists I was gonna say that's terrible because usually if ship dies you loose buffs right?

[keen sable]

why are you comparing offtank to middle?

[left cedar]

mostly of gud cases, yes

[turbid dawn]

The DDG is in main tank Sirius is in off-tank here

And shes dying at the same rate as a main tank DDG while using def auxes

While also being 13 levels ahead

Which is what, 26% dmg difference?

[quartz jungle]

26% less damage taken, or about 35% higher eHP

[jaunty vault]

meth

[left cedar]

its Lethal ? or safe ?
also Choukai its 114 ... so if 121 its 14% and if lethal its 14% and if safe then its 17 artificial levels, so 34% iirc go till 50%, or i'm mistaken with other game?!

[turbid dawn]

It's safe lol, idk how many times I've done 12-4 at this point, but yeah DDG is level 108 and Sirius is 121

[left cedar]

iirc dmg bonus only happens once Safe, dosnt work if isnt

[frank pulsar]

does ibuki fs5 make a big difference?

[dire flare]

/15runs

[odd root]

The first 15 runs you do each day give better rewards than normal. Once you hit 0/15, you can still fight, for the same number of contribution points, but the droprate of equipment blueprints is much lower. Your 15 runs reset each day, so you will get 15 more "drop-boosted" runs tomorrow. You can use challenge tickets to run "boosted" attempts when you run out of your daily amount.

[dire flare]

Mb, wrong channel, mobile problem

[woven star]

depends what you expect from this fleet build

[dire flare]

Is it worth unlocking the 5th dorm slot

[soft raft]

Hell no if you're F2P
3rd slot is the reccomended maxinum for F2P

[dire flare]

Oh, I accidentally unlocked the 4th

[late flame]

just become a whale ez

[frank pulsar]

just get second floor and then stop investing gem into dorm

[spring bolt]

yeah if not f2p, 5th and 6th dorm slot is very good value

[dire flare]

I alr had the 2nd floor, I was just curious how much 4th slot costed, but spam clicked and due to lag bought it

Thanks, what should I be spending gems on then?

[soft raft]

All in on dock space

no exceptions

[dire flare]

Done:3, ty

[silk helm]

who should i unlock first, shimanto or felix schults

[white agate]

shimanto

[spring bolt]

very small compared to her aug

[patent raft]

You guys choose. I don know to choose so you guys decide

[sharp socket]

bottom left for idol ending
also there is thread for this

[spring bolt]

choose the one you like, all others that reqs are met will also be unlocked

[patent raft]

Alright. The sensitive 4000 and stats total 10000

[late flame]

#1204845559790440488

[forest palm]

this is why you can dump Pearl's Tear on Sirius, she dies her buff persists, and you get some healing on the side

never forget Kazagumo was once bugged, and healed enemy CVs

[soft raft]

[forest palm]

[tulip zenith]

How is the triple 406 mk1 compared to champy gun?

[crimson glacier]

awful

[tulip zenith]

Bruh

[crimson glacier]

mk1 has no purpose

[forest palm]

wtf the MK1 is a side grade

[left cedar]

isnt Soy Gun Mk1 ?

[soft raft]

If you mean this gun, only the gold rarity variant is good

[tulip zenith]

Ya the gold one

[crimson glacier]

theres more than 1 mk1?

[forest palm]

as I said already

there's only 1 relevant MK1 at least

[tulip zenith]

If I have 2 champy guns and one of that am I good to +10 it or should I try to get a third champy gun

[left cedar]

Soy gun is the best x Med, and worse x Hev if compared to Champy and Flandre gun