gameplay-help

[tropic tusk]

for Implacable wht does it mean by " and for the first 3 battles of a sortie a fleet this ship is NOT in: " this line?

[wind hazel]

it's not a fixed loadout either, please remember

[woven star]

Crossfleet barrage

[crystal vortex]

So something has to be replaced again

[tropic tusk]

oh like lets say shes in boss fleet and she will do a barrage on mob fleet?

[woven star]

Yep. But only 3 fights

[tropic tusk]

oh thats nice

[wind hazel]

yes, it depends on where you wanna use shinano at

[tropic tusk]

cant wait for her to rerun

seeing how she needs to stack something i assume u need a fast reload plane?

or thats not how it works?

[barren tapir]

it stacks by being hit which happens a lot

[tropic tusk]

wait stack by being hit not hitting peopple?

[worldly pewter]

gear for the backline ships is very situational
it changes drastically depending on the content

[tropic tusk]

oh ok i see it

does the stack refresh every battle?

[crystal vortex]

Ok

[crystal vortex]

Okok

[woven star]

Do I need to save oil for next event? Something good from map drop or overexpensive shop stuff?

[worldly pewter]

is there a stacking skill that keeps it stacks between battles ?

[tropic tusk]

idk tahts y im asking

[barren tapir]

doubt it

[quartz jungle]

Doesn't stack in between battles

Only skill that does IIRC is Alabama's S2

[tropic tusk]

[turbid shell]

for 1shot Queen Elizabeth META, do i need at least 2 vanguard META to do it?

[whole crypt]

you can do it with 1 but 🎲
also adding a second META doesn't really help if it lowers your overall DPS even if you can get the knights faster

[turbid shell]

hmm i dont know what should i do next

[barren tapir]

pompeo magno too iirc

[runic bluff]

how does gear preset works???? does it fucks up my gear equips if say I have 2 La-9, one at +13 and other at +10
say my amagi cv preset has 1 La-9 +13 but the available La-9 is only +10 (due to +13 being equipped to other cv)

[storm heron]

tips:

• Use a meta ship with good dps
• check if you landed 2nd airstrike after all summons are killed
• make sure your vanguard didn't sink before last airstrike connects
• and lastly use slows/roots for better consistency

just pay attention during the battle, maybe 3 ijns kaza 2META can work

she's an old meta and recently added to the dossier, and we had a lot of new ships during the past year, doubt people had done much research for her, you should try cooking by yourself

[whole crypt]

if your +13 is taken it'll use your +10 if it's available

but off the top of my head it'll also prompt you as such when you try to load the preset

[turbid shell]

ok i'll try
thank you

[leaden garden]

Is An Shan Both good at Mainfleet and Vanguard mode

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard

ddg arent used in backline mode besides ddg : ddg 1:1 lowcosting stuff

[leaden garden]

Alr thank you

[fiery swan]

Can Chien Wu tank

[barren tapir]

also for faster lvling

[barren tapir]

sure, iirc 110-115% range

[fiery swan]

Is there an equivalent ship for that

[jaunty vault]

Portland is generally taken as 100%

[fiery swan]

So how is she compared to say one of the French CL tanks from Iris reunification event

[jaunty vault]

uhh see for yourself
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=756671274#gid=756671274

[forest palm]

[tulip zenith]

Would ocean soul camo be good for kron if I don’t have her gun

[wind hazel]

uhhhhhh... that's an aux isn't it

not sure how that relates back to her gun

[tulip zenith]

For the sn gear requirement

Or should I just get the cl gun instead

[wind hazel]

ah. you're better off using the np cl gun yes

[cobalt rapids]

ig that works

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[bright tusk]

is there any pic that tell about main gun base/mount? iirc it has an image of abercrombie(?)

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

[forest palm]

this applies to AA Guns, and Torpedo Launchers

[jaunty vault]

torps are weird

[boreal wagon]

torp mounts just increase the capacity so its not really the same

[forest palm]

still the same principle to me

could honestly make a better info graphic

[forest bison]

any know what does it means to unlock secret ending in navi

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[fickle hollow]

it was in the comment section of a youtube vid

is this good? should i craft?

[quartz jungle]

Yeah, it's a side grade to other converging gold torpedo bombers, and you can adjust your carrier strike timing with it

[fickle hollow]

[white agate]

does the event use morale?

[forest palm]

I swear this event doesn't consume much moral at all

well the raids never seem to eat morale as much as standard maps

[white agate]

yeah, i just had 50 tikets to use and since i got to use the fleet later for bossing i took the right precautions

[nimble knoll]

Is Shimakaze Good? (Randomly Got her from a random special build-)

[left cedar]

isnt recommended do something outside Light pool when no events active or u already get all in event pool

but, she is the less effective UR in Perma pools nowadays

[nimble knoll]

Ik, I just did it for Lolz, didn't expect to get her-

So she's not worth Using? (Not Like I Can MLB her anyways)

[left cedar]

she can fit here and there, if u want use her, not a "should use" ...
also dont MLB her with UR Bullins, use her own dupes for, also keep in mind that
Shin > NJ=UvH > Shima

[turbid marsh]

you can level the crossfleet skill if you have the books and time and slot lol, but im pretty sure you wont be using her until actually getting to w12, even for crossfleet. but you can stack her in to one of your opsi fleet, fleet 4 or something

which you wont be doing until later too, for opsi

[nimble knoll]

So.. She's literally one of the Worst URs I got from the Special build-

[barren tapir]

she is decent if you can mlb her, the problem is mlbing her

[tame jungle]

why are you doing special build

oh that has been mentioned already good boys

[nimble knoll]

Dunno, I just did 1

[barren tapir]

if only you were here for TLR collab you couldve gotten shima for free

[left cedar]

some considerable years here u get used to common tips

[barren tapir]

i mean what

[turbid marsh]

boy got too many cubes.

[nimble knoll]

[barren tapir]

ignore me im making a joke

the joke being that nana is basically just a gold shima (not entirely true but...)

[nimble knoll]

I've been saving here and there, I just get an urge to do a weekly special build so

[turbid marsh]

1 or 1 10x?

[left cedar]

iirc already got one of thoose, Marie Rose* or something like that, isnt ?

[nimble knoll]

Only 1 build

[turbid marsh]

yeah i guess its fine tbh. just focus on your existing ships for now.

[barren tapir]

idk how good marie rose is but that's cool owo

oooo she does look good too

[nimble knoll]

Welp Shimakaze is going to be collecting dust for some time, time to finish my weeklies

[barren tapir]

interesting, marie and nana have identical efficiencies

[left cedar]

i did remeber Torva, Riceist and Bombzen arguing about Marie and Shima

[nimble knoll]

Should I level up the first Yellow or 2nd Yellow?

[barren tapir]

both

[nimble knoll]

Which one first?

[barren tapir]

2nd up a bit ig cos u got 3rd up alr

[nimble knoll]

Okie

[barren tapir]

think 2nd skill is best to max also

[whole crypt]

all skills are best to max, the in between literally doesn't matter

[barren tapir]

well it matters a bit if you have many ships in need of skills, you can prioritize the heavier hitters to get more ships usable sooner

since, with some exceptions, most skills are linearly scaling and will do reasonably well at 6-8 so you can get more ships ready sooner

[nimble knoll]

Should I save up for dorm 2nd floor or keep spending it on Dock expansions?

[barren tapir]

like for example, you do want to max unicorn's reload buff but it's a low priority and can sit at 6 or even 1 for a while with little ill effect

[whole crypt]

if it helps you grind more dorm first, not sure how tight you are with dock though

[barren tapir]

id go for dorm first just cos its immense quality of life...dock will come over time as you progress campaign

[nimble knoll]

Got 200,And I'm not really getting full (unless I forget to enhance)

[whole crypt]

if you have headroom for dock then get dorm, 3 slots + 2F is one full fleet of morale regen

[barren tapir]

i kinda hope i can get 4th slot someday so im not super cramped for morale regen

lots of times when i wanna dorm exp a couple ships or i need to swap in multiple fleets or want morale on boss fleet too

itll just be a year of gem comms np np once i reach 1000 dock anyway

or well more realistically 800

[coral elk]

Was there something like suggested order in which to buy out OpSi store?

[barren tapir]

the issue also resolved itself via recent developments. i no longer require a sub fleet and thus no longer require spare dorm slots

[eager mulch]

things you need > other stuff

[novel solstice]

Play opsi a lot, buy everything good is the recommended order.

[eager mulch]

logger

[novel solstice]

Also, do you mean the voucher shop, or the in-opsi-shop for opsi tokens?

[ivory pawn]

Are we talking Port Shop or Voucher store?

[barren tapir]

abyssals/hiddens > t4 skillbooks > helps if needed / meta crystal if ur missing some cruise metas... i forgot what else that shop even has.

[cobalt rapids]

pre new shop you buy everything
post new shop you buy the loggers/plates/apboxes and mats/blanks
meta skill books and rigging fortifications if needed

[nimble knoll]

Should I put Shimakaze in the dorm so she levels up or smth? (If I need her in the future ig)

[coral elk]

I meant port store, not the other one, because that other one has way too few useful things in it

[barren tapir]

dont bother

[whole crypt]

prioritize ships you're using for morale regen first, using dorm to level is a much later thing

[barren tapir]

dorm exp is hella mid anyway even at cmdr118 and like 300 comfort

[whole crypt]

it's too fast I can't spare the chips when they hit 100

[nimble knoll]

Owh, So ig I should take out my aquila and replace her with Laffey then?

[barren tapir]

i just shove food in if its ships i care a lot about in the 1st floor dorm when afk or not. most of the time i dont

[cobalt rapids]

all my ships are shoved in the dorm post aff grind

[keen sable]

It's like a week. You still aren't using Aquila?

[barren tapir]

how does one shoved in dorm when morale

[nimble knoll]

No good planes, and I either replace uni or yk2.

[cobalt rapids]

6/6

[barren tapir]

my dorm is always morale so the food is only added if it also happens to be that im levelling uncapped ships, else wasted

[whole crypt]

practically my dorm 1/F now

[barren tapir]

and my ships are almost never uncapped due to poverty and me only uncapping when they're actually needed

[barren tapir]

DDDorm

[whole crypt]

100 aff DDs just waiting for 120

[barren tapir]

they probably arent past ch9 yet

why not sortie them tho

[nimble knoll]

If I need to use Aquila who should I replace with her here? (Aquila is Level 60-)

[nimble knoll]

I need more cmdr levels, I'm only at 55

[keen sable]

They've been in sp5 for over a week

[whole crypt]

waste of oil, using fodder that's not 100 aff yet

[barren tapir]

current event is great for cmdr exp also war archives

[keen sable]

And should have been able to move onto d1 by now

[cobalt rapids]

noone rn

[barren tapir]

a level of minmaxing i cant be assed with but i respect it i just level ships by battle and they reach affinity before 120 regardless

so no reason to prematurely swap them out for me

[cobalt rapids]

rather than minmaxing its just using the free exp from dorm for people who have it at 6/6

[barren tapir]

isnt that minmaxing

[cobalt rapids]

id rather do this than c1

[whole crypt]

for a while I had ships that I had to waste oil to aff after 120 because they spent too long in dorm before grinding

[nimble knoll]

Ima just speed run DC, Brb

[barren tapir]

oh i see it's a too big dorm issue

self created problem by using dorm exp in the first place

[whole crypt]

grind fleet is in 2/F

[barren tapir]

[cobalt rapids]

i mean cant be worse than retroactive oaths

[barren tapir]

imagine oathing a ship at lvl125 3mil exp

[whole crypt]

not like it matters if it's a main fleet ship, going to be using maxed ship anyway

[keen sable]

Rodney I think

[barren tapir]

might happen for me someday due to the nature of f2p oaths

[coral elk]

The hell is retroactive oath?

[barren tapir]

oathing after completely maxing a ship

[whole crypt]

oathing a ship after it's maxed because reasons

[cobalt rapids]

oathing a ship you alr grinded to max
i mean i do it aswell coz imagine having rings on hand all the time

[barren tapir]

meaning the entire grind from 100 to 200 affinity = 100% exp waste

[coral elk]

Well, maybe you wanted to oath her for forever, but didn't have the free ring?

[barren tapir]

well no shit yeah lol, it happens. just feelsbad when it does

[coral elk]

f2p pain

[keen sable]

More like oath skin released

[cobalt rapids]

or that

[coral elk]

I'm a Soviet enjoyer, I don't even know what is that

[whole crypt]

well for people who've maxed main fleet retroactively oathing main fleet is a non-issue for waste anyway

[barren tapir]

i respect f2p commanders far more if they waste their dock slots for oath rings instead of skins

cos oath is love and skin is lust (kidding. mostly)

[whole crypt]

you're going to be wasting XP regardless

[barren tapir]

honestly idgaf about exp waste because cogs exist

[keen sable]

Like arkh getting an oath skin after you already 125/3m her

[barren tapir]

if i cared about it i'd drive myself insane figuring out an opsi mobfleet every new month

[cobalt rapids]

i think they meant NP has no oath skins

[coral elk]

I certainly would have bought a few skins, but Soviet ships don't get much of them and I don't like many of them(also rarely any l2d)

[whole crypt]

chips catching up for me but I'm also buying so

[barren tapir]

full monthly clear of opsi is honestly a pretty decent chunk of exp

[coral elk]

Arkhangelsk 125/3m? I'd oath, if I had enough rings, but I'm gonna spend my last ring on Nakhimov

[barren tapir]

sadly everyone except sara (2.87m) and lala (1.12m) are capped exp now

[keen sable]

Just pretend chappy skin is oath

[barren tapir]

imagine lvl130 comes out and it requires 3m exp per level

[coral elk]

Chkalov and Soyuz would be hella fast to 130

[turbid marsh]

probably not until 150 they do that

[whole crypt]

why would I imagine something that isn't going to happen

[keen sable]

Halp

[coral elk]

Yea, 125 is too nice of a number for that, unless we get bump to 135/150 instantly

[whole crypt]

but that ship is 120

[barren tapir]

bump to 200 lets go

this is veering very far from gph but yall ever feel weird about how you either are or will someday be a higher level than any of your shipgirls can ever reach

[nimble knoll]

Is Tashkent gud?

[barren tapir]

yes, but i have to ask where you keep getting random perma ships from

and ships i want, damn you!

[nimble knoll]

Pulled her lmao-

[cobalt rapids]

no ships is good till ur current fleet reaches oilcap maps

[barren tapir]

daily light or?

[nimble knoll]

Ye

[barren tapir]

oh ok thats fine then i spose

ill trade you chien wu for her

[coral elk]

By the way, does anyone know of the OpSi xp grind strat? Someone was saying about it quite a while ago and I probably could use some xp grinding, but I barely remember what it was about

[nimble knoll]

I did my daily light and weekly special (for me atleast)

[nimble knoll]

Uh..

[barren tapir]

uhhh you just nolife corrosion 1 zone stopping for akashis and buying out ap and going until you die from exhaustion

[coral elk]

ahh

[nimble knoll]

Today is just mah Lucky day

[barren tapir]

my current c1 fleet

[soft raft]

Why the weekly special pull?

[barren tapir]

oh fu shun might be lvl120

[cobalt rapids]

whats a weekly special pull

[barren tapir]

how much exp from 105 to 120?

[whole crypt]

because people like to waste cubes despite being told not to

[nimble knoll]

Dunno, I just started doing it last week and mi have sum spare

[barren tapir]

on one hand theyve gotten aquila by doing that, on the other hand...almost always a bad idea/return on investment

[soft raft]

That's a bad ass excuse to justify that, even if you get lucky from it

[whole crypt]

I don't know what your cube stock is but we're expecting a new UR end of Feb so

[soft raft]

Save
Your
Cubes
For
URs

[fiery swan]

Our next UR rerun is Implacable?

[silk helm]

you don't need uni?

[barren tapir]

aaa ty, ok ig she is more like lvl118

[barren tapir]

i just repair kit chang chun every 200 ap

[soft raft]

Yes
But not the next rerun in general, that would be Blucher rerun right after this event ends

[fiery swan]

Good, I can skip the banner then

[coral elk]

Imagine getting aquila, couldn't be me(my literal first event I remember was the VV/Aquila event)

[silk helm]

ah okay thats smart. i was wasting xp keeping uni in the fleet 😛

[barren tapir]

eventually when i get percy she will be permanently babysitting my c1 fleet for quicker clears and full afk mode but i dont have percy

[fiery swan]

Blucher is shop ship? Who's on banner then

[barren tapir]

its not rlly a deal of wasting exp but uni is in my actual main opsi fleet lol

[whole crypt]

I don't bother with XP in OS but that's just me

[cobalt rapids]

brunhilde and z16

[soft raft]

Brunhilde, Blucher, and prob like some goofy ass Elite

Technically Brunhilde is featured on the banner art but Blucher is better known in the community

[barren tapir]

main fleet exp not so important bc youll run out of them before vg, can slot a max exp carry to grind faster and it might even end up being more exp/hour that way anyway...

[nimble knoll]

Is Implacable gud to pull for, or should I 'save' for the new UR this Feb?

[silk helm]

that's valid, i think farming c1 is good cuz u can raise ship easily from lvl 60 to 100

[barren tapir]

z16 isnt goofy ass elite, she is dd fp!

[cobalt rapids]

we are prob not gonna get implac before the Feb ur

[soft raft]

Both

[whole crypt]

Implacable rerun is going to be after new UR

[nimble knoll]

Ic

[fiery swan]

There's a Feb UR?

[soft raft]

Could be directly after the new UR for all we know

[whole crypt]

that's fair, I just have the luxury of not needing to bother

[barren tapir]

from what ive experienced so far, rerun UR runs shortly after their original timeslot letting a new UR come first.

[cobalt rapids]

expected

[silk helm]

boomer

[soft raft]

The past three years have had URs in Feb, May, Sept, and Dec

It's basically expected at this point

[whole crypt]

that seems to be the trend lately, considering they pushed Brunhilde back for it

[barren tapir]

i do it for gems and cubes, exp is just the excuse i use to placate the more cynical denizens of gph

[keen sable]

You get both

[barren tapir]

actually maybe that shouldve been a reply to daniel...hm...well idk

[crude fable]

Is anyone good to buy?

[dreamy blade]

kazagumo

[cobalt rapids]

only tech

[dreamy blade]

oh you already have her z46 is fp tech

[cobalt rapids]

or kazagumo dupes if u wanna save bulin

[nimble knoll]

I'll try to (my luck may be ass and I might use all my cubed)

[barren tapir]

z46 dd fp

[crude fable]

Uh... So z46?

[keen sable]

If only you had more cubes right?

[barren tapir]

think malin also dd fp

[fiery swan]

What do you even put on z46 if you don't wanna waste mog gun on her

[dreamy blade]

otherwise le malin/triomphant if you need french faction points

[keen sable]

128

[dreamy blade]

the z46 gun?

[barren tapir]

maybe triomphant not sure. malin and triomphant also kinda good if you lack french tech for ships like bayard/brest/flandre

[whole crypt]

gold twin 128 in lab

[crude fable]

Okai tysm

[barren tapir]

i have a bunch of those

[dreamy blade]

triomphant is in WA but malin is not

[fiery swan]

So an old powercrept ship that needs opsi to be good

[barren tapir]

theyre the cheap and easily accessible dd gun for me...for higher value dds/ddequippables i have my knockoff chinese tashkent guns (aka harbin gun)

what

[cobalt rapids]

why, mogador gun is event equip and is better for her by a large margin ?

[barren tapir]

i bet i could clear 15-4 using z46 in a fleet

[soft raft]

Allen isn't too bad
The Allen class has pretty good AA for a DD

[fiery swan]

Because I gave mog gun to laffii

[cobalt rapids]

that doesnt mean z46 needs opsi

[barren tapir]

i dont understand the complaint of doing opsi for good gear

[fiery swan]

I find opsi very confusing

[cobalt rapids]

just wait for alsace rerun and get the 2nd copy

[barren tapir]

twin128 is super cheap i made one like basically instantly the moment i got z46 and i got her cos shes cute

[whole crypt]

OS itself is less confusing than actual gearing

[keen sable]

That sounds like new ships. Wonder how much ops gear is on fritz amagii and yorkii

And z52

[fiery swan]

Z52 is fine with that blue speed gun

[barren tapir]

also honestly z46 isnt too bad either her dmg is acceptable for a gold ship in a mob fleet with her augment in my experience. obviously she pales in comparison to nana but most dds do

[silk helm]

how big of a difference between these two for OpSi mobbing on FDG?

[whole crypt]

basically no difference

[barren tapir]

her AA is also on the better end for dds, not that that's saying much but she wont drag your fleet down in aa

[keen sable]

You don't mob with a 457?

[silk helm]

dont know what that is 💀

[atomic abyss]

Look at that same chart

Where you got the screenshot from

On the other side

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is only significantly better than Mk6 if you take it over +10 and in most cases that's for bossing because it's just overkilling in mobs

[sharp socket]

i mob with mikasa gun on sushi

[sharp echo]

between 8 torp 5 fp and 5 rld
which one to pick priority?
Cruiser

[barren tapir]

why the face most dds are shit at aa, she is not good per se but she isnt shit either, 261 AA and 170% efficiency

[atomic abyss]

Uh wat

[whole crypt]

jokes on you I don't have a mob BB

[silk helm]

the fourth one?!?

[barren tapir]

what

[atomic abyss]

Aurora

[sharp echo]

meowficer talent

[dreamy blade]

[wind hazel]

you abandon that cat

[barren tapir]

uh id say 5 fp...?

[atomic abyss]

Z46 AA is 140%

Not 170%

[whole crypt]

I mean strictly between those too FP will do more than the RLD but why would you use a cruiser cat

[barren tapir]

augment has 30% and ofc if you would ever use her for anything beyond tech you'd make her augment cos using her means you like her cos she's decent but not good enough to actually be used unless liked

[dreamy blade]

aug adds 30%

[soft raft]

Meanwhile Allen's AA mount is 160%

[barren tapir]

anyway as i said i used her for a decent amt of time and she performed reasonably well for a gold ship in mobbing

she isnt great but far from unusable

[dreamy blade]

better than halford

[barren tapir]

that isnt why allen has good aa, she gets a ghost aa gun

[keen sable]

Don't build take or justice is the short answer

Certainly not one that is missing soul

[barren tapir]

most dds that anyone'd actually seriously use even in earlygame are better than halford

[nimble knoll]

Should I replace Yk2's purple+6 Tenzan with smth?

[barren tapir]

tho i am still curious how halford performs with an AA gun equipped bc her barrage seems decent and obviously the plane doing 0 dmg is not gonna help her

oh yeah...i can go back to working on halford now that ive finished the game

so i can test that out myself

[barren tapir]

sure, seafang or corsair ig?

[atomic abyss]

stick with tenzan

[barren tapir]

cos idt a converging tb is helping all that much without some kind of slow/root

[atomic abyss]

it'll be better than a fighter unless you need more AA

[barren tapir]

not if it all misses, no

[keen sable]

It depends

[cobalt rapids]

tenzan is better on avg than cuda unless the boss has special movement patterns

[atomic abyss]

conv torps dont miss 100% without slow, contrary to popular belief

esp in campaign where the screen is a cluster fuck

[barren tapir]

they do however miss more than 50% of the time on average

[wind hazel]

b-b-b-but essex skill issue gif

[atomic abyss]

in fact a lot of the high prio enemies in campaign dont move at all

[keen sable]

Id rather use skyraider against ikazuchi but I guess it's just me

[atomic abyss]

i.e command ships

[barren tapir]

it really depends but i wouldnt want to use converging tbs in campaign, theyve proven very shit for me every time ive tried

[atomic abyss]

you havent tried enough clearly

[nimble knoll]

So.. I shouldn't replace it?

[keen sable]

It still depends

[barren tapir]

you also get huge rng which isnt desirable, you dont want your ship ranging from doing 100k to 200k in the same battle randomly

[dreamy blade]

it's also bc parallel tbs that arent wyverns do very mid dmg

[worldly pewter]

xeno doesn't seem to have much of a choice regarding torpedo bombers

[cobalt rapids]

like if the boss has a special movement pattern to dodge torps like the dd carousel yes they are bad
but typical movement ai they are better on avg

[barren tapir]

i have a unicorn breguet screenshot that'd like to disagree

[barren tapir]

which is why i dont think its the best option...cuda is one thing, tenzan i legit have never found a use for besides timing adjustment iirc

[atomic abyss]

aurora, only in extremely unfortunate single target cases would a seafang outperform a tenzan in campaign

[dreamy blade]

tenzan kai is a top tier purple plane

[atomic abyss]

and single target doesnt really exist in campaign

[barren tapir]

a seafang should outperform a tenzan in a multi-target scenario cos bombs...

[atomic abyss]

you really overestimate 500lb bombs...

[barren tapir]

maybe i have had too much amagicv trauma

[atomic abyss]

yes, they will definitely miss a few torps

but so what, barras and wyverns will too

[keen sable]

I see a load of parallel totally whiff all the time

[barren tapir]

seeing her outperformed by other cvs whenever she misses

[atomic abyss]

if he had a spare helldiver there it wouldnt be an issue

[barren tapir]

theyd miss less

[keen sable]

It's in dB slot

[worldly pewter]

@nimble knoll which plane do u have on uni second slot ?

[atomic abyss]

exactly

[barren tapir]

hell why not take the skyraider then at this point, it'd perform better than tenzan on light/med

[keen sable]

Avenger...

That is what I said

[atomic abyss]

if you really want parallels, avengers are there
but i dont usually recommend them

[barren tapir]

avenger is way too slow rld iirc

[keen sable]

^

[barren tapir]

but also this, i agree with unique

[nimble knoll]

This is literally all my Torp bombers-

[barren tapir]

a lot of campaign bosses are light/med until later chapters also, iirc only ch6 had a bunch of bb/bc bosses

i have so many cudas i wish i could donate

[cobalt rapids]

why is skyraider going into her flex slot and not into her db slot

[sharp socket]

have you tried opening tech boxes

[barren tapir]

swap helldiver and skyraider then, i forgot what her loadout is like

[nimble knoll]

I'm out of purples

[wind hazel]

[cobalt rapids]

what helldiver..

[sharp socket]

this is some homeless gear situation

[barren tapir]

idk someone mentioned a helldiver

[cobalt rapids]

i dont see any

[barren tapir]

did they not have a helldiver?

[cobalt rapids]

...

[dreamy blade]

so why exactly are you trying to replace gear when you have no options

[sharp socket]

oh wait its this guy that asks for optimisations when he doesn't need any

[barren tapir]

i mean i still think skyraider gud

[wind hazel]

the db isn't gonna have any issue

[sharp socket]

just go w12 and come back to gph when you start actually having problems

[barren tapir]

skyraider slot 2, helldiver slot 3. boom. because aint no way tenzan beats skyraider on light/med bosses

unless amagicv maybe

[cobalt rapids]

most definetly not on light
and not on med either because +13

[shadow solstice]

Good aux gear for submarines? I usually just fill their slots with torpedo mods, can't think of anything else they really need

[atomic abyss]

pressure hull and snorkel usually

[cobalt rapids]

depends on their torps and situation
usually hull+snorkel for foolproof

[sharp socket]

pressure hull and oxy snorkel

[atomic abyss]

expect to spend a loooot of core data

[barren tapir]

so then skyraider good so why not

[shadow solstice]

Well guess there go my core data

[barren tapir]

i used skyraider a few times in campaign and it went fine

[cobalt rapids]

did any1 say no to skyraider rec

[barren tapir]

i got skulled

i dun geddit

[cobalt rapids]

because of the latter part of what u said
like tenzan having a chance against skyraider on its best armors

[barren tapir]

i added that after the skull bc i thought i said smth wrong

[cobalt rapids]

well yea amagi tenzan beats skyraider on med at +10

[barren tapir]

was just trying to cover any exceptions i missed

[worldly pewter]

avenger has parallel or converging torpedoes ?

[barren tapir]

parallel

[worldly pewter]

so when we compare the avenger to the golden cuda the only difference is the much higher rld and the 40 damage per torpedo ?
looks like a better plane than tenzan

for campaign at least

[barren tapir]

14.57s rld is really fucking slow...

[cobalt rapids]

imagine being slower than skyraider

[barren tapir]

like la9s are called 'slow' theyre 11.70s

which is slow for a fighter but like yeah. 14s+ is fucking dumb

[undone plover]

Tenzan has rly good damage iirc
That is why even tho it is converging it was recommended as poverty option for campaign
Wasnt it close to the top 3-4 SR conv TBs or sth?

[barren tapir]

also because generally plane rld speed is fighters > tbs > dbs on average so...a really agonizingly slow tb is something special

[cobalt rapids]

tenzan kai has ryuusei dmg at +10
tenzan normal is 10% less

[barren tapir]

i will admit im very biased against converging tbs on moving targets, and shouldve tempered my biases a bit

[undone plover]

How are converging in general in campaign neko?
Would u use a tenzan/(kai) over gold cuda?

[atomic abyss]

im not neko, but depends on where

[cobalt rapids]

.

[atomic abyss]

ryuuseis were a better pick than barras on 13 back in the day because of the threats that were command ships

[cobalt rapids]

i also prefer a mix of conv in w14 over a gold cuda if wyvern is not an option

[atomic abyss]

any argument that sides the spearfish over the wyvern also somewhat applies to conv TBs

basically, who are your highest prio threats?

[barren tapir]

how about vs a breguet?

[atomic abyss]

in w13, command ships primarily (and repair ships)

in w14, BBs and their production types

[cobalt rapids]

breguett is just gold cuda but faster
so it ends up providing better stagger so i pick it just for that

[undone plover]

And AA right?

[cobalt rapids]

and intercept yea

[undone plover]

Btw was flap intercept > wyv/breg?

[atomic abyss]

by a noticeable amount yes

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[barren tapir]

for ch14 i just used wyvern cos i ran 1 tb slot on boss so ig i didnt get to see how converging tbs work in concealment

[dreamy blade]

wyv/breg intercept is only notable bc they arent fighters

[undone plover]

Actually yeah good point
How do they work for concealment

I guess the bombs are faster so they reveal the enemies?

[barren tapir]

i did, however, attempt rockets in 14-3 boss and it was good until it wasnt. the moment flare/lighthouse swapped off, the rockets went flying in crazy directions, honestly really funny

[molten zinc]

they goes all over the place

[barren tapir]

but when lighthouse/flares were active the rockets were pretty decent. the main downside with those is...the bb prods

[molten zinc]

like how you bullet went when they consealment is still up

[cobalt rapids]

using flares, rookie mistake
rockets in w14 are just for sniping the kagerous
if you dont time them right they are worse

[barren tapir]

i assume the logic for conv tbs is bb prods are so fucking fat that even in concealment the tbs is likely to scrape them?

[barren tapir]

you say that, and suchi says that too, but i tried without flares after that convo and it was worse. flares felt better for my specific comp.

[cobalt rapids]

yes if the wave is stacked theyll hit
if the cv carrying them launches last it will snipe off the last prod

[undone plover]

I still dont understand the flare thing

[barren tapir]

im just gonna assume that flares are, like most ch14 bullshit, rng and very dependent on your comp and enemy rng

[cobalt rapids]

w14 is very rng by nature
alternating between 2 runs wouldnt rly be conclusive

[barren tapir]

thats kinda my point, i did fine with flares

[boreal wagon]

flares can be situationally better or worse

there isnt really a clear "its definitely better" or "definitely worse"

[barren tapir]

they dont seem to make things consistently worse to any noticeable degree for my comp

[bright tusk]

lv100 to lv120 need how much exp?

[molten zinc]

anything step on flare have their consealment removed and therefore attract more focus fire quite like CV hidden mechanic where you can't target them

[worldly pewter]

from the day u told me don't touch them i never asked about them

[undone plover]

2115000 for non rainbow
+20% for rainbow

I might be off by a few thousands

[barren tapir]

also tbf my comp used sara who shits aoe all over the place so it kinda reduces any negative from "flare makes your backline target the front of the enemy"

[undone plover]

Just use DB

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[barren tapir]

and also had a fat rumey with wyvern which removing the front lets those hit the back. in theory. honestly idek how it all worked, bc ch14 is random. but i cleared it and that's good enough for me to say "flares wont kill your run"

[molten zinc]

and the problem reveal itself when your flare goes up at the wrong time and your ship just refuse to hit the shit that they surpose to hit

[barren tapir]

plus i had nana

who dgaf about concealment or flares whatsoever

[cobalt rapids]

giving unicorn purple plane might not kill ur run either

[barren tapir]

im saying there was no noticeable downside with the exception of that one 14-2 run where i decided to try a nanaless boss and was subsequently fucked many times over by bb prods somehow

[undone plover]

Is it fair to say flares increase the rng?

[worldly pewter]

sounds like a nice test subject

[barren tapir]

im still not over that one because by all accounts according to tierlist, an anchorage z52 sandy comp should be strong yet it fucking failed so many times on 14-2

[molten zinc]

[barren tapir]

and then nana just sweeps the competition

[cobalt rapids]

u had underlvled stuff

[quartz jungle]

Manual moment

[undone plover]

U mean the backline died? Or the frontline?

[barren tapir]

i autoed 14-2

[barren tapir]

ye i had 15+ resets on the one time i didnt use nana

[cobalt rapids]

werent both z52 and sandy underlvl compared to nana ?

[barren tapir]

not significantly, and theyre supposedly much stronger ships

it also wasnt them dying, but they straight up left the bb prods alive for years

[undone plover]

Well I dont think anyone can claim a musashiless backline cant die
Regardless of your frontline
That is the whole rng element

[barren tapir]

that vg survived the best actually, but led to backline being fucked many times over compared to both nana+sandy (best overall) and nana+z52 (functional but squishier somehow)

[cobalt rapids]

yes but 15 resets vs 3-4 is a big difference

[undone plover]

Well anchorage has no dmg so that is kind of expected I think

[worldly pewter]

level difference impacts the hit rate significantly ?

[barren tapir]

yeah. nana+sandy had 1 run of 0 reset, 1 run of 3 reset, nana+z52 was 5 reset or so, and i really lost count on nanaless but it was over 10, probably over 15, AND eventually i just gave up and let a ship die to win (the others were all S ranks)

[cobalt rapids]

lvl difference impacts dmg and survability significantly and stats like hit which indrect affect hitrate less so

[barren tapir]

its small sample size...but a very big difference in ship survivability in that sample size, and number of resets diff was big

yeah ik that 5 lvls less is -10% dmg but that doesnt explain the bb prods staying up for 10+s longer and murdering saratoga nonstop

[quartz jungle]

I think Seydlitz + Graf Zeppelin + Ulrich/Odin backline won't die either

[barren tapir]

what does explain it, is nana's consistent concealment-ignoring anti-heavy dmg

[cobalt rapids]

its a wave thing

[barren tapir]

i should mention nana also typically did 50% more dmg than either sandy or z52

[cobalt rapids]

nana was either pushing a wave earlier before launch or leaving off a stray for rld recovery
thats the only thing i can think of unless u have a recording to share

[undone plover]

Doesnt ulrich off flag kill herself cuz she reveals fast?

[cobalt rapids]

yea kinda

[barren tapir]

idk why such a big diff but after the 14-2 disaster of experimenting i stuck with nana sandy the entire rest of ch14 without much problem (small number of resets cos it is a stupidly rng place)

[quartz jungle]

Damage get redirected to Seydlitz + reduced further by GZ

[pine hound]

Do we have an endings guide yet for the brat raising 2.0?

[barren tapir]

oh yeah also the mobfleet did a bit worse with nana than z52, so that was funny too, since i wouldve expected the opposite as nana is mobbing focus

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[pine hound]

Oops thank you

[wind hazel]

TEX no diff T2

[turbid marsh]

z52 is mobbing focused tbh, but her damage alone wont be enough for multi targets... tried her 15-1, can't deal with the healing ships alone

[undone plover]

I think like neko said
It is a lot of factors
Nana doing 5% more dmg than anchor on 1 wave could be the diff between a dead BB or not
That is why stuff is tiered alone not as a comp since u can synergize/desynergise a lot of stuff and introduce so many rng factors when taking 6 ships into account

[turbid marsh]

healing ships actually out heal her

[barren tapir]

tbh im thinking rumey is one of the best ch14 ships bc she has 3 detection resets, so as long as your comp can semi reliably keep your other 2 backliners from being revealed quickly, you should remain quite safe. she also has top tier plane intercept and a 10s strong barrage for dmg uptime

[molten zinc]

I actually just use Z52 as a tank, AA carry and Hedgehog in W15 not a dps

[cobalt rapids]

i use her as all of the above and dps

[turbid marsh]

dps, healing, supporting backline. she just fits.

[quartz jungle]

I just permanently parked Laffey II in front + Eldridge support on manual and she couldn't die lol

[barren tapir]

[barren tapir]

yeah i think its impossible to pin down any 1 factor why X succeeds or Y fails. you just gotta go with what works, dont question it too much, and only change shit if it stops working

[barren tapir]

tbf on manual many things wont die

like triple cv superfleet

[quartz jungle]

I didn't even move Laffey II basically, she ate like 30 torps but due to Unicorn healing her health didn't fall from 25% at all

[barren tapir]

she does a good bit of dmg but its sustain not burst which is not the most helpful for ch15 per se. but it adds up a lot of value over time imo

shes also truly an incredible tank in long battles due to her absurd level of nonstop self-healing

[quartz jungle]

On auto my Eldridge would sometimes lose 30% HP because she took the damage instead

[barren tapir]

oh i just mathed that she only selfhealed about 33-35% of her hp in my 15-4 final battle, i thought it was more

[molten zinc]

sandahato every 3s

[barren tapir]

still a decent bit...and momo healing about 15%, and aquila, and unicorn...

[quartz jungle]

You used mob fleet on 3rd boss?

[barren tapir]

i did superfleet. "boss" fleet only fight 2nd boss

[quartz jungle]

Oh the boss fleet is the crossfleet lol

[barren tapir]

"crossfleet"...i mean i guess amagi helped...?

so many planes probably cant even see her crossfleet activate

also it was probably shot down every time by the aa boats that spawn in 3* dd nodes around the 2:45 mark

also actually curious...do those aa boats shoot your fighter intercepts too, cos if so that would make them a far deadlier threat, like i suspected

[quartz jungle]

Yes they do

[barren tapir]

good, so prioritizing them over repair ships was a gigachad move

(because my torps dont do much to those, and my cvs can bomb it well enough with rumey's barrage)

[quartz jungle]

That is a strat to kill repair ships and let your ships just recharge strikes

[undone plover]

Manual is scary

[barren tapir]

doesnt work very well in ch15 bc the stage planes will keep coming and wear you down

also because some mob groups are just too tanky if the repair is left alive, or it all gets bombed because aoe dmg

[quartz jungle]

Nah I just throw Laffey II and Sandy at the situation lol

[barren tapir]

my goal in manual was always to finish every fight as soon as humanly possible

to the point where on supercv nodes if my final strike didnt kill the last pair of hiyou/junyou id reset the entire node LOL bc it wasnt worth taking more dmg

[quartz jungle]

You need to watch out for when the enemy tries to throw a billion planes at you (usually the big carrier fleets that spawn)

You have ~5secs to launch 3 strikes/salvoes + torps to kill them on manual

[barren tapir]

oh i know, i go into hiyou/junyou #1 with 4 strikes loaded. do one initially for stage planes, then 2 more about 3s later to counter their own planes. then kill them before they plane again, having stocked up 3 more strikes for the second pair of hiyou/junyou, and repeat.

if the second pair is left alive for longer than a few seconds after my final strike it's a lost cause and i resetted the node.

torps are used for the aa boats so my intercept will actually work. this strategy left my backline taking only 20-25% max per supercv node

and about 0-5% on regular 3* node but i just avoided those, since dd nodes are easier

[barren tapir]

sandy and z52 with triple cv still isnt enough to kill all planes

some will get past during the cooldowns

plus gotta actually use airstrikes to cleanse torps and do damage too not just intercept, it's a delicate balancing act between AA and dealing dmg

[uneven badger]

who to bulin

[barren tapir]

normally id say yk2 bc shes already 1lb but i am now heavily biased towards a certain german cv and say rumey every time

[cobalt rapids]

show ur other URs

[quartz jungle]

I just throw 3 +13 AA guns at it, with submarines I can get past the super cv node with 5-10% backline damage

[turbid marsh]

then stack a eldkai or shimanto. that should do it

[barren tapir]

i didnt have subs. i did have 2 +13 sexys but also my aa carries were lvl120 without maxed skills LOL

i already beat it im just saying why i used the strategies i did

[quartz jungle]

Yeah your skills are low, which is probably which your AA wasn't that great

[barren tapir]

i cooked everything by myself more or less too, and my own selfcreated strategies worked really well

not that low, sandy was 8/6 and z52 was 10/7/9 iirc

my fleet also had stupidly good healing so taking some extra damage wasnt that bad

dont underestimate momos healing across 8 fights that all last 1min+ each...it really adds up...

[tame jungle]

TLR propaganda out in full force again today

[barren tapir]

i mean momo was my goat, i needed everyone sure, but momo is literally the only way to make triplecv strategy work 100% consistently

bc she completely obsoletes the need to have intercept for suicide boats, manual alone isnt enough to cover every angle, but momo covers half and that does a lot. then she also buffs your entire fleet, spams a shitload of barrage damage (good mix of light/med/heavy too), and heals your entire fleet

[uneven badger]

me?

[barren tapir]

her plants also act very well as meatshields against massive enemy torp waves. i barely had to dodge

she truly is an amazing ship and im not just being biased here, she does so much imo

[cobalt rapids]

can you afford to mlb any UR rn ?

[uneven badger]

nah I only have 1 bulin

[cobalt rapids]

then just wait till february and asking again at the new UR

[barren tapir]

oh yeah 1 bulin is pointless, just save it

[uneven badger]

alright partner

[polar venture]

Is chien wu decent or she just gooner bait?

[cobalt rapids]

portland slightgrade like many others that costs gold bulin

[polar venture]

Comparable to brennus then?

[cobalt rapids]

better

[vital olive]

yoo is there like an newbie or a beginner guide?

[ivory pawn]

Yes. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[mellow cape]

What was the fleet tracker website again

[ivory pawn]

This one I think? https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[mellow cape]

Ty king

[vital olive]

as a new player, i should just focus on the story for now yeah?

[ivory pawn]

Yep, goal is to push to w9 asap. You’ll want to try to do the event raid too, just whichever difficulty you can clear.

Will probably just be Easy for now, but hopefully you can bump up to Normal or even Hard before it ends. Only do 15 runs a day.

[white agate]

what is more comfortable for 12-1 tech farming? 2bb 1cv or 2cv 1bb?

like i noticed at level 80 with decent gears they seem to survive anyway

[mellow cape]

Either or tbh, you can almost stick anything in

[ivory pawn]

If it works it works. Iirc there’s no more suicide boats, just planes, so you don’t even necessarily need a BB.

[novel solstice]

I found that it was fine to do tech farming in 12-1 by sticking in literally any ships with zero thought to fleet composition. Do them in alphabetical order if you want.

I did tend to start them at lvl 100 rather than lvl 80 though, since that way they generate XP books.

[undone plover]

what is the max number of missions that can be accepted in opsi? on the actual map/mission hub I mean
not in the queue

[polar venture]

If I have brest and kronshtadt I probably don't need to use chien wu right?

[keen sable]

You need ca sometimes

[polar venture]

True, okie

Is kearsarge niche?

[atomic abyss]

compared to the other DRs, yeah she is relatively more niche

[slender turtle]

Is yat sen worth the retrofit?

[polar venture]

Would it be worth to get hindy first?

[vagrant steppe]

Is Gascogne Fate Simulation worth prioritizing or should i be coining other stuff instead?

[keen sable]

She's not bad if you can meet the fleet comp requirements that involve committing at least 2 ships to DE

[keen sable]

If you use her sure

[slender turtle]

Yeah that makes sense, was thinking of doing a fleet with her and fu shun

[slate siren]

how do u guys mass- dismantle gear that isnt good for any purpose?

[keen sable]

One gear icon at a time

[slate siren]

im looking at the guide and some gear is equipable by other shiptypes so i dont wanna touch anything

[soft raft]

/equip check 3rd link for safe to scrap stuff

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equip has a safe to scrap which may only be relatively safe

[woven star]

More complex - choose gear look can you make from it to something, disassemble if not. Few exceptions like blue dd gun for rld

[slate siren]

i dont understand what u just said

[worldly pewter]

everyday try to pick a rarity and learn which gear is usable and which is not
start by the golden gear because it is the easiest one

[soft raft]

or just look at the first link for what's considered good gear

[woven star]

Fast tips, this is good everything other blue most unusable

[soft raft]

what happened to your grammar man 💀

[forest palm]

[woven star]

Find Jimmy YouTube channel. He made some usable videos about gears

[forest palm]

eh...

written guides are better

[woven star]

These pictures are scary sometimes. I used them but after his tips

[wind hazel]

this channel say scary things sometimes

[woven star]

As for newbies fine. Yes he didn't say anything about armor types and what to do. But at least I found how use AL wiki gear and some interesting links on wiki like skill damage and barrage scale

[ivory pawn]

Where Fire Extinguisher? Where Naval Camo? Where Rudder?

[woven star]

At least more information rather then ship tier list

[woven star]

I mean blue gears.

[ivory pawn]

You mean blue guns?

[soft raft]

yeah those ARE blue gears

[slate siren]

ive ignored the gear lab until now, how do i get design plans and ordnance testing report?

[molten zinc]

OpSi all the way

[ivory pawn]

From Opsi like other gear lab mats.

[slate siren]

i have also ignored opsi

[ivory pawn]

More specifically, Port Shop, Cat nodes, and Abyssal loggers.

Now’s as good a time as any to check out Opsi.

[white agate]

still 4 days till reset, you can complete it in 2 days

[soft raft]

you gotta do OpSi to get gear lab materials
and gear lab is quite important as that's where alot of the best gear in the game is from

[woven star]

I don't remember anything to use from that. Purple drops a lot. I have few blue other stuff and save them for future only because maybe in some far future would be needed

And btw Rudder gold. Fire Extinguisher? Where best to use? Naval Camouflage when you got a lot of Rudder unusable

[ivory pawn]

[soft raft]

[slate siren]

what the hell do do i do with these

[ivory pawn]

Fire Extinguisher is the only good anti-burn gear we get, so it’s good anywhere you need to worry about burn damage. W10-11 are where its first recommended, but I’m sure there’s other spots it comes in handy too.

[woven star]

Pls. When you get Toolkit everything else blue not important

[worldly pewter]

evasion gear is a scarcity
that is why i stated to start with the golden gear because there are more blue gear someone wants to keep than u think it isn't always very obvious but also this depends on the stage of the game

[ivory pawn]

Sit on ‘em? Use ‘em as you need ‘em?

[ivory pawn]

Your counterpoint is a gear we only get one of ever. I won’t waste anymore space on this.

[soft raft]

TLDR Just go read Sam's equip guide

[haughty dust]

any thoughts on one of these characters at level 120 should be taken to 125 next?

[woven star]

OK I have some blue. And reason why they still in depot cos I don't have their prints or some of them drops from specific maps. Another trap saving some purple with reason of upgrading it in gear lab. But this never happened because parts from purple to gold more expensive than get them from boxes

[soft raft]

Definetly Ply, Sirius, AvP, and Kazagumo
Mainly to minimize the lvl gap against OpSi/META Bosses

[hushed delta]

I'd choose Independence first over Parseval, just imo

[soft raft]

OpSi mob isnt that difficult to warrant lvl 125 asap
unless you're trying to solo more difficult OpSi content with the mob fleet, in which case I booted Indep to a dedicated crossfleet fleet that doesnt fight

[hushed delta]

but you chose a 5stars Ply thoughbeit

[fervent hazel]

Do you get boosted pull rates when you make a new acct or have I been insanely lucky with mlb Yorktown2 in two ish weeks

[soft raft]

ik
of course that was under the assumption she would be D30
Which she should be asap, but if she's at least D25, she's already got all of her bulk

[soft raft]

there are no boosted rates for new players, only boosted rates for event ships during their event/rerun

[viscid swift]

the latter

[woven star]

Just in case are you using dorm? I saw a lot of food

[worldly pewter]

there is a theory behind new players having boosted luck in many games
the reason is to hook them to the game
but this is only a theory not proven

[wary skiff]

do the red ports unlock on different runs?

[white agate]

no, they are just there as non functional ports

[hushed delta]

Ply probably has the most needed dev30 of all with a +1 main gun mount

[soft raft]

they do not, they only exist for daily missions and OpSi story progression
they are Axis ports

[wary skiff]

ah ok ty

[soft raft]

That's really only in terms of her damage output
utility wise her skill isnt locked behind anything, and the viability of pre-D30 Ply mainly hinges on if she's durable enough

[worldly pewter]

yeah i don't see any problems with blaster's recommendation
knowing druid dock and progression he should be fine with them

[hushed delta]

it's cool, I'm a nitpicker

[silk helm]

whats the best opsi mobbing fleet for clearing c5 fast?

[silk helm]

erm whose the first ship?

[cobalt rapids]

akagi muse

[silk helm]

ty ty, also why shima?

[cobalt rapids]

preloads

[woven star]

should be fine too

[sweet delta]

Does that clear by 2:49?

[cobalt rapids]

lemme see

[sweet delta]

The foxes don't strike fast enough

[cobalt rapids]

yea its 2:45

[sweet delta]

Try putting ibuki off tank be cause she has a long barrage

[cobalt rapids]

1s faster

[woven star]

Barrage order animation depends from ship position?

[cobalt rapids]

preloaded torp launch depends on ship position and ibukis barrage is on torp launch

[woven star]

OK, I thought they launch all immediately

[cobalt rapids]

all weapons that have an icon on the bottom right will launch 1by1

[woven star]

I know about bb and cv but never thinking about torps

[keen sable]

If you didn't finish story you are sool.

Finish the story, do what you can and grind it out next month

[slate siren]

im on world 11

aint gonna finish it anytime soon

[storm heron]

opsi story

not campaign story

[slate siren]

theres an opsi story?

[hollow gust]

You can finish opsi story in a few hours

[keen sable]

That won't help with rng port shops

[tawny cove]

Is there a way to disable/auto-accept this prompt when doing strategic search?

[novel solstice]

Reduce TB guidance should get rid of that one, I think.

[tawny cove]

Thank you

[novel solstice]

Unfortunately, there are some other annoying ones that reduce TB guidance doesn't help with 😦

[tawny cove]

welp it seems after returning to the game after a few years OpSi is still a slog

[glossy granite]

How good is the new 533mm mark torpedo?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[glossy granite]

Oh nvm

[tulip zenith]

Yo I haven’t played opsi at all this reset is there anything I should do quickly

If I buy coordinates do I keep them for next reset

[ivory pawn]

They go away on reset, so ideally you'd use them.

Beat up normal Arbiter if you haven't yet, try and grab important stuff from Port Shop if you can.

Strongholds will help with the latter, but probably more important to try and explore as many zones as you can.

[silk helm]

whats the best way to get the single 37mm? I wanna craft the UR AA gun in gear lab

[barren spear]

Could use some fleet building advice, but can't upload to imgur via their app

[tulip zenith]

Wait can you not change your opsi fleets

[ivory pawn]

You can. There's a gif floating around somewhere, but basically go to a blue port, select orders, and choose Fleet Deployment.

[ivory pawn]

Just upload directly here, but do it in a thread.

[ivory pawn]

They're primarily from Iris tech boxes, which you pretty much can only purchase from various shops.

[soft raft]

There's only one way
which is Iris tech boxes

Which are in medal shop, general shop, and merit shop

[tulip zenith]

Thx

[silk helm]

🙏🏻

[tulip zenith]

Can someone help me build fleets for arbiter 🙏

Or is normal arbiter not that hard

[silk helm]

not hard, u can elave and reenter as much as u want

[tulip zenith]

K

[barren spear]

Moon's Fleet

[tulip zenith]

Guys why is the arbiter node unavailable

[stark quiver]

Did you clear the zones around it?
Or complete the story?

[tulip zenith]

Ya I’ve completed the story and I used the 5k oil thing do I still have to clear the zones around it?

[stark quiver]

Yea

[tulip zenith]

Thx

[storm marlin]

Any good worlds for PR farming? I’ve heard 13-4 is great for that.

[viscid swift]

you heard wrong, 12-1 or 12-4 would be better

[soft raft]

12-4 is a good mix of XP without being too difficult
W13 in comparison has stronger needs on the AA front

[novel solstice]

12-1 and 12-4 are a lot easier than 13-4 if you're using a suboptimal fleet. Which you probably are, if you're having to stick in three ships from some faction, especially if you want to use this as an opportunity to level up some lower-level ships from that faction, because why waste the XP?

[white agate]

also 13-4 uses more oil/exp compared to 12-4 and 12-1
only point in favor would be more cogn chips, but honestly it's not worth it and 12-1 is better in case you need pure exp while 12-4 is better in case you want more gold, but slightly less exp/oil

[wary skiff]

Does Gascogne only get 2x salvos per launch?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[wary skiff]

Why do some get more like Odin? She fires 3 each time

[soft raft]

Main Gun Mount

[crimson glacier]

french stuff often gets preload, and most of the time that means they get 1 shot less

[soft raft]

MGM1 = Pew
MGM2 = Pew Pew
MGM3 = Pew Pew Pew

[crimson glacier]

3 is the usual for BBs

[wary skiff]

How do I check for stuff like that, I see mgm+1 written around, so Odin has mgm+2?

[crimson glacier]

limit breaks

the ingame ui just kinda sucks so wiki is better

[soft raft]

Using Hood as a example:
they have 1 MGM by default at base
Then you see +1 for LB1 and MLB for a total of 3 MGM at MLB

[spice phoenix]

hindenburg > kearsarge right?

[keen sable]

They're two different ships

[spice phoenix]

let me rephrase:
hindenburg should be prioritized more then kearsarge right?

[keen sable]

No. They do different things

[soft raft]

they're both equally niche when compared to other ships of their respective hulltypes imo

[white agate]

it would be faster to explain him what niche they cover instead of telling him they are niche;
i think mainly

• hindi niche is mainly opsi mobbing
• while kesarge niche is light USS fleet(note that many fleet works for light bosses tho)

[wary skiff]

Ship Prio

[storm heron]

you should prioritize a certain PR instead if you are aiming for both, otherwise imo kearsarge has more uses than hindenburg if you have her teams

[wary skiff]

They only have a certain amount of refreshes per month right, all of my ports have nothing

[keen sable]

That's right. Maybe two refreshes left at most. Not enough to guarantee anything. Maybe 33% chance of rainbows

[ivory pawn]

They have a limited pool of items that each refresh pulls from. If you buy an item, it's removed from the pool.

[white agate]

wait, what port are you talking about? isn't port shop reset monthly?

[keen sable]

Only if you finish chapter 4 ops

[undone plover]

can anything auto the challenge on 96%?

[eager mulch]

[weary gust]

AmagiCV/Implacable/Shinano/Anchorage/Helena/Eldridge. Enable everything but reduced CV airstrike damage.

[undone plover]

that is not 96% tho is it?

[weary gust]

Well then enable it. One airstrike does ~70 bars, 30% less damage should be about two airstrikes still.

[undone plover]

she is medium right?

[storm heron]

idk I did not auto it, no idea if auto works

[white agate]

challenge is one time for the whole event, imo no point thinking about auto, just manual it

[weary gust]

Just autoed it with the comp I gave, worked but with rng. Also was using subs too. Note that all my gear was +13 and I have max fleet tech for mainfleet and most tech for vanguard.

[sweet delta]

I also used subs

[weary gust]

Score was lower than doing it with 91% bonus btw, given that everyone in vanguard was dead and Helena on damage control.

[sweet delta]

~~And a sub got MVP ~~

[thorn tartan]

What's the armor of the arbiter this month??

[stark quiver]

light

[keen sable]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/460645783021289472/1329541085130784781

[thorn tartan]

I get to try my new hvars

[warm flax]

Is it possible for 50 area clear in opsi in just 1 day

No shortage of yellow oil?

[stark quiver]

if you have enough Ap then yes, if you dont have enough ap then no

[keen sable]

use more black oil if so

[barren tapir]

you should be able to sustain enough ap to clear that much yes if you path wisely to the ap rewards and prioritize ap in the shop

theres numerous zone that give 100 ap reward for clearing, and youll sometimes find extras from various explorable drop mechanics, including the end chest reward (these seem rng ish tho)

additionally theres like...i wanna say about 1k ap in the shop

then you also have 200 ap start + 144 in the next 24 hours

very doable especially if those 50 avoid the highest costing maps and of course, never pay for recon

if im not busy on feb 1 with other game i might try to speedrun opsi and see how much i can do in a single day, for science

[storm heron]

use 5000 oil and get all 72 zones in 1 day

[fiery raptor]

is there a ship that wants the american magtorps like laffey does/wants EU gear for gear procs serviced by these torps?

[barren tapir]

obviously without that

huge waste of oil for active player

[fiery raptor]

i do this also you want reduced TB guidance so that it works properly while you are away. makes the UR bp grind much better

[keen sable]

active players don't start ops on the 27th day of the month

[fiery raptor]

and never coord notify

[barren tapir]

well thats not me

[fiery raptor]

i do this on day 1 and the rest is just coords for meta fights which is is faster with all maps cleared

[zenith heron]

does Z52 deal more damage from her skills than her gun mount right?

Like Scylla's Skill spam?

which is the reason why she uses really fast guns

[fiery raptor]

i think so yeah especially since if it's red bullets they are homing lol

same case with zekamashi and kazagumo

sans the homing part

[barren tapir]

i actually wonder if instaclearing on day 1 damages ability to c1 due to expending all easy ap sources instantly

which would also damage total ap earned in a month

[tame jungle]

i think it might

[zenith heron]

because its hard to compare ships who have only one mount but one uses normal guns for dmg, and the other uses fast guns for skill dmg

Like Eldridge Retro, does she have only one gun mount? but in exchange a decent or high gun mount efficiency? like Z52 does?

[fiery raptor]

i just leave a device on and dump like 2000 ap worth of fuel from all the maint gifts and i'm 50+ maps when i get back from work feelsgoodman

[barren tapir]

maybe that's how alpha keeps running out of ap?

[storm heron]

no I mean like manually clearing is just 🍞

[stark quiver]

i didnt do ops for a whole week

[tame jungle]

i took it quite slow this month, like 2 weeks for entire map

[barren tapir]

oh

[stark quiver]

also, those who know my speedrun tech

[fiery raptor]

ah yeah i agree with this 🍞

[barren tapir]

its still weird how ur at 0 ap and i have like 2.5k left to burn

[stark quiver]

it is very interesting indeed

[barren tapir]

1 week of ap is still only like 1k ish

[sharp socket]

my opsi is 1 day ahead of schedule, i finished everything yesterday

[barren tapir]

• dailies maybe 1.5k but not counting spending ap to do dailies

[tame jungle]

still got nearly all strongholds left but after that it's all going to c3 farm

[barren tapir]

i finished everything except for about 20 c2-c4 hiddens so

[tame jungle]

can let you know what i total this month aurora i'll just ping you

[storm heron]

3k ap gives you what again, like 30 electronics and 30 plane gold plates?

[stark quiver]

whats your point

[barren tapir]

my ap before doing last stronghold and like 6 c5-c6 hiddens

ap is weird

so from what i can tell basically similar stockpile to nubi except they have more strongholds left

[tame jungle]

i remember last month i had a ridiculous amount after harbiter let me see if i can find it

[barren tapir]

id probably have an absurd amount if i left off everything to the last couple days but i wouldnt enjoy rushing so much

[storm heron]

speedrun tech what

[tame jungle]

i had 15.895 vouchers last month with harbiter and taking like 2 weeks to clear out the explorables

[thorn tartan]

I didn't see much difference between the easy arbiter and the hard arbiter this month....

[stark quiver]

thats cuz its ez

[storm heron]

no speedrun tech what

[wary skiff]

How do you reduce tb guidance. Pretty sure I tried to disable it entirely but I still get plagued with pop ups

[zenith heron]

I usually leave the rest of the action points unused due to being busy

but since it also gives electronics well I wasted like 3 months of not doing that after completing the whole opsi areas, I guess I have the need to do it I guess...

[stark quiver]

its just how i speedrun, pretty standard

[zenith heron]

what is worse, it can't be converted to OpSi coins, which I hate

[wary skiff]

At what point do I get to start spending bulins on subs lol I feel like my subs aren’t gonna get anywhere in levels at this point

[nimble knoll]

Is Annihilation mode On Laffey gud to get?

[silk helm]

which torpedo bombers are good against medium armor?

[wary skiff]

Do we know the February UR?

[storm heron]

yes until you get to world 12

[stark quiver]

no

and a feb ur is just a prediction following trends from past years

[storm heron]

sounds italian

[wary skiff]

Ah so this isn’t one of those games that get datamined and all the notes released by random people before they happen haha

[stark quiver]

we get patch notes maybe a week before,
and datamine comes a few hours before maint

[fiery raptor]

reduced tb guidance in options (never) for coord notifiations, ignore mysterious merchant and i think auto exchange but i think i have that off.

I reserve one of the commission crews for sub, you only really need them for 13+ so if you dorm them after level 70 feeding them bulins for the 70 80 and 90 level limit breaks (90 is commit) they hit 100 reasonably quickly witout sorties.

[nocturne glade]

does avp need her fs5 in order to be useful?

[stark quiver]

yes

[tame jungle]

ye

[viscid swift]

the devs just don't add stuff until they want us to know so there's just nothing to datamine

[nocturne glade]

great, ty!

[nimble knoll]

Is there a difference between these two?

[viscid swift]

we ceertainly do have dataminers

[keen sable]

it's not worth switching but the quint mag is generally better even if it is very disliked

[fiery raptor]

i use the quint mag for leveling leeches as a plceholder until i commit to making a quad for them

i use the quint normal for purple torp plate lol

[wary skiff]

All my subs been staying capped at like level 80 and 60 currently. I wanna get one to atleast 100 but I’ve still yet to fully limit break 2 fleets and I want a couple more for opsci

[nimble knoll]

I have alot of Torp parts anyways cuz I don't use em (I only used it on regular quint)

[fiery raptor]

you surface fleets priority, lb the subs after surface fleet is done.

[sharp socket]

after not using subs in w15 you don't really need to focus on them

[barren tapir]

i use quint normal for ships with bad torps and quad mag for ships with good torps

quint mags

[wary skiff]

Ok I guess I’ll finish vittorio and San Diego then look at subs

[fiery raptor]

it's fine to book train their skills while they wait so when mlb time they are ready to go.

[sharp socket]

and if you progress at a normal pace theyll get their bulins when you're done with your main fleets and be actually used

[nocturne glade]

Are there any ships in the merit shop worth getting after eldridge?

[wary skiff]

All my fleets still getting book trained 🫠 maybe it’s a mistake getting everything to level 10 instead of doing 1 book each minimum first for a few levels

[sharp socket]

u37 else rest is collection

[nocturne glade]

great, ty!

[wary skiff]

Am I able to 100% firepower and 0% the reload if I wanted to? Or do both cap out at specific levels for helena meta

[nimble knoll]

Should I +10 this or nah?

[zenith heron]

if this is for Bossing, all Converging torpedo bombers have the same dmg Modifiers

vs Light deals 80
vs Medium deals 110
vs Heavy Deals 130

but this are the converging planes in order from the fastest to the most dmg output at the least... (its for timing purposes as you like your airstrikes to sync rather than 1 second beyond per airstrike)
Saiun Kai
Ju-87
Ryuusei
Prototype Vit 2 (Mod Change)

[nimble knoll]

Oh wait forgot to change it- (it was supposed to be mag quad)

[fiery raptor]

i leave them at +6 and dump purples on the gold quads

when you end up making tons of gold quads 1000 plates will evaporate lol

[barren tapir]

fuck the mag quint but ive levelled up a couple normal quints and it hasnt hurt me

[keen sable]

the game is easy. shocking

[barren tapir]

and torp plates arent exactly an issue later on so its nbd imo...im pushing 5k and it just keeps going up...

[zenith heron]

for purple mag torps
the triple mag is good and the purple quad mag is bait
for Gold, the quad mag is good while the Quint mag is bait
for UR, that is where at least the Quint mag is just a sidegrade but at least usable

[sharp socket]

purple plates that are not aux will always be high once you reach a certain point

[nimble knoll]

Fuck-
I keep misspelling it smh

[wary skiff]

What would be a good balance of rld and fp for helena meta?

[sharp socket]

and then aux plates also stop being low somewhat later

[tame jungle]

max both

[barren tapir]

literally just max her

[nimble knoll]

I meant this one, Gawd I keep misspelling shit

[barren tapir]

well true tbh you go from crippling poverty to having a stash always available but with not much spare

[wary skiff]

Oh ok so they do have a cap the upgrade bar is just weird to me LOL

[zenith heron]

I'd stay with the Normal Quintuple Torpedo earlier,

if you get a Gold Quad Magnetic, use that than this bait

[barren tapir]

im pushing about 1k aux plates but any good windfall of good aux would wipe most of it

[fiery raptor]

what's bis aux for hindo other than the washing machine beaver tag and kicks are on ancho and agir, the loveru hp gear is on felix. toolbox or bulge maybe?

[nimble knoll]

[keen sable]

crystal ice bomb

[barren tapir]

loveru eva gear maybe

[keen sable]

all the eva, none of the speed

[fiery raptor]

yeah i auto 10 my washing machines and catapults so my aux plates suck

[sharp socket]

i just made like 10 auxes for my farming fleets and dipped into 3 digit range while everything else is approaching 7-8k so it can definitely be a problem for some time, purple aux plates

[barren tapir]

imagine having washing machines and catapults to enhance

[fiery raptor]

which one is that they have a ton of aux

[storm heron]

where drop catas?

[barren tapir]

sneaky prowler

[nocturne glade]

are washing machines the anti-sub ones?

[barren tapir]

no, its rudder

[fiery raptor]

nah evasion gear

[nocturne glade]

ah i see

[sharp socket]

washing machine is rudder

[barren tapir]

also if i upgraded more toolkits id run out super fast, ive been passing the same dozen or so +10 ones around to all my most important ships

i could make like another 100 toolkits+ on top of the 40 or so +6 i already have

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

[sharp socket]

[storm heron]

that's wild amount of toolboxes

[barren tapir]

toolkt is easy it dropped from most recent events farm stage lmfao

[sharp socket]

i only have like 20 toolboxes and half are +10

[fiery raptor]

yeah i +10 toolboxes too and leave them on whoever got them last. i should be tighter on my aux plate expenditure

[tame jungle]

sorry what is that 40 +6 toolboxes

[keen sable]

imagine thinking +30 hp does anything significant. i only have 3 +10 toolboxes

[zenith heron]

seems normal like that one player who has a lot of Washing Machines as flex

[barren tapir]

i mean it does matter sometimes

like when clearing ch14 and ch15 so early ehem

[sharp socket]

unique is offensive aux enjoyer

[weary gust]

... people don't upgrade their toolboxes to +10?

[fiery raptor]

i don't trust dd hp who are not the brick dds

[barren tapir]

must be mebot's worst enemy

im team mebot, improve fleet ehp at all costs

[sharp socket]

i use toolbox when i run out of offensive auxes to slap on my farming ships

[fiery raptor]

+10 both alizarin and cyanidin towels for mogador becomes she loves to self die

[barren tapir]

but yeah basically ships that need that survivability (used in endgame content f/e) get my +10s. levelling ships get my +6s. i also have a few +8s i made at some point when poor

[sharp socket]

aurora you auto your farming fleets right

[barren tapir]

i have like 1000+ toolkit blueprints tho its pretty insane

also like a dozen +0 toolkits i obtained from tech boxes over the months

yes i always auto unless doing hard content then it depends

i only manual uhhh

EX stages
ch15
harby
c6 bb abyssal
c6 heal+shield abyssals

[spark ridge]

not sure if this goes here, but does anyone have any idea approx when or what are upcoming events/constructions? after this cny ends (this thursday?) whats coming next? dead week?

[barren tapir]

the latter 2 is just bc i want to 2 fleet instead of auto and take longer

[sharp socket]

why do u need to manual harby

just sync and go

[barren tapir]

cos i nub

my fleets are mid, and i had only 2 usable ones

[sharp socket]

manual*

[barren tapir]

keep in mind i did it early this month

so no sandy, no ply, no z52, no rumey, no hvars (well i forgot to make them...)

[zenith heron]

better than me who has really good ships and decent gear but can't one shot harby

[summer spade]

Which meta are worth investing in?

[fair musk]

are secrets just an audio book

[stark quiver]

5m asmr clip

[barren tapir]

also i have no subs either so i literally just have a mobfleet, a mostly anti-heavy boss fleet, and a rejects fleet to use. minimal crossfleet also, and bad cats, no tech

[fair musk]

holy skibidi

[sharp socket]

dont worry at some point it becomes rng/tech/cats issue

[barren tapir]

im still smol guys

[zenith heron]

well my cats need work, tech is low, plus less +13 gear, then I never use Subs in OpSi ever in my life

[sharp socket]

subs don't actually do that much in my experience

[zenith heron]

bruh if you are smol, Idk what I am

[sharp socket]

its not like i have bad subs too, u96 37 47 6x bidders

[barren tapir]

subs still provide value up to 4 times against harby

[sharp socket]

u81 over u47 if i stop being lazy

[storm heron]

flasher

[barren tapir]

the point is in terms of account progression im almost a complete newbie

you underestimate how much having proper fleets, cats, tech etc help

had several ships underlevelled too

[zenith heron]

sad don't have fish comp cuz missed Flasher and give me time to cope to Albacore

I am using the best Wolfpack but meh gear, bcs only the flag has decent ones

[barren tapir]

and skills not maxed either

[storm heron]

subs are very weird tbh, I followed ectl's gear recs and deal 1/10 suchi's subs damage

[barren tapir]

clearly you should copy suchi

[sharp socket]

you can probably do yorkii enty avp for light if you want

then triple ijn for heavy

[barren tapir]

sure i have none of them maxed or fully levelled and i did harby 2 weeks ago bro...

[viscid swift]

Operation Convergence will rerun right after this event ends

[fiery raptor]

is it worth to +13 both of hindo's hindoguns since she has almost backline levels of damage output or should i +13 kear's mk7 first?but soyuz nakh will be changing my opsi antilight fleet.

[keen sable]

cny doesn't end thursday though

[barren tapir]

york2 is low skills 1lb
enty isnt mlb cos bulins and coins and obviously not maxed yet
avp is still working on fs5, skills mostly maxed, lvl110

[sharp socket]

unless devs decide its BB season again and drop 2 more of them and you can use for all armor

[keen sable]

cny is just getting started on thursday

[barren tapir]

like theres only so much progress even i can do in this time lol

my 2 skill slots are split currently between so many important ships, it cant keep up and i wont max everyone i need to for like at least a month

even rumey skills arent maxed yet and she carried ch15

[stark quiver]

just use double bidder random gun hull and snorkel

[barren tapir]

[keen sable]

the worst sub is a dead sub

[cobalt gate]

welp out of cognitive chips

[nocturne glade]

is there a good way to get sakura empire tech? I cant tell if its because we just had KMS and USS events but it's so far behind both

[zenith heron]

I mean, I don't have a proper light fleet

considering Yk2 and Kear is maxed, mlb, and skills maxed
but coping on a LB5 lvl 119 maxed skills Rumey, is just me coping some more, due to me not investing to AVP

[stark quiver]

whats a proper light fleet

[sharp socket]

yorkii kear implac is the old one

[spark ridge]

then whats this event thats currently running

[keen sable]

cny and it ends feb 5

[cobalt gate]

you mean meta?

[sharp socket]

for new comps ask goose or cheeky, i just know anti med is soyuz nakhi fritz with 4 la9

[zenith heron]

proper fleet for light boss ones, but my Impla is on the IJN for Medium and Heavy

I mean sure they can deal ok on light but it can't one shot light as fast as the current light comp

[stark quiver]

just 3 bb