gameplay-help

[forest palm]

No you don't want Percy as a secondary healer, AQL will server better

[eternal moth]

They should be, there are just A LOT of planes. Are you in circle formation?

[sharp socket]

i use circle formation for super CV node?

[eternal moth]

You should use circle formation for the whole chapter

[sharp socket]

oh alr

[novel solstice]

Even outside the super CV node, those huge swarms of enemy aircraft are a pain.

[sharp socket]

theres no difference it seems

after 2 super CV nodes my backline is just as low as it was in double line

[dreamy blade]

circle also helps with concealment

[supple ember]

do you really have to 100% a stage before it unlocks the next one???

[keen sable]

for normal yes

[storm heron]

just use 6 CV and go manual

[supple ember]

?

[keen sable]

what's the question?

[supple ember]

idk what the dude meant

[keen sable]

i think they're responding to someone else

[soft raft]

^

[storm heron]

[supple ember]

o

[sharp socket]

is coin fleet good

[storm heron]

yea I was replying to Celerio, for w15, you can literally clear with some low budget fleet and low tech with 6 CVs
as long as you manual ofc

[sharp socket]

will it kill me or free healing

[storm heron]

free healing

[sharp socket]

epic

[languid reef]

what does "low budget" mean in this case

(give examples of low budget ships)

[sinful elk]

Is u-47 worth using alone chat

[sharp socket]

this guy for example

[ivory pawn]

You trade out 66% of your damage for... a 5% increase against a specific hull type?

[languid reef]

i got 9 of them minus aquila, amagi cv, and neptune
am i cooked

[stark quiver]

free win

[novel solstice]

She is better solo than any other sub running solo.
She's a lot worse solo than running her plus two other uboats. Even if they're pretty lame purple u-boats, two of them will be a lot more damage.

So just form a proper wolfpack.

[sinful elk]

These 3 will do right? (Ignore albacore)

[novel solstice]

Those three will be great.

[storm heron]

4 months playtime

[spring bolt]

47 with aug is same tier as other u botes, any of the 3 u botes will do (37 47 81 96)
but wolfpack is now considered lower tier than fish pack anyway

[nocturne glade]

what ships should be expected in 4 months? Im wondering shipyard wise to see how far I am

[soft raft]

that's fairly difficult to quantify when the time people spend on the game per day and how they use that time can vary quite a bit

[novel solstice]

That depends a lot on how hard-core you are. There exist people who can get to world 15 in four months; lots of other people are a lot more casual and won't get that far for years.

[white agate]

w15 is my emergency gem stash

[storm heron]

is there anything I need to improve here for QE META? I just need 2% more damage

[stark quiver]

watatsumi

[sharp socket]

theres like 3 people in the world that did 15-4 in under 4 months

[white agate]

why that +11 and +12?

[storm heron]

what to replace though

[stark quiver]

washer

[viscid swift]

you could start by having eldridge main tank and Wichita off tank and run more offensive gear in Wichita

[undone plover]

Swap aquila and unicorn TB imo
Get better stagger this way

[storm heron]

hmm not too sure tbh, aurora cleared it in 4months and a half but she spent a lot of oil just trying to HVARs and missed a musashi. The problem is the UR bulins tbh

[stark quiver]

dont you want witchita to die faster, so she procs

[viscid swift]

if she dies too soon she'll expose Kazagumo causing her to die faster

[storm heron]

wel the +11 is to increase a bit of avi, the +12 is I don't have enough gold plates

[storm heron]

but she will die though no? I tried with the all work all play robot (crescent moon) but she sinks when eld fails to proc

[true panther]

I use 2 Skyraider and this is the damage it deal

[sharp socket]

i say theres 3 people because not a soul would try that on their first time playing the game, even the 55 day CN guy isnt his first time playing

[storm heron]

gonna try this

[true panther]

If the York 2 event rerun again I would suggest that new players should get AD-1 skyraider

[soft raft]

1. That looks like baby numbers unless this shit was like mob fleet
2. #al-general is that way unless you have a question

[stark quiver]

it will not rerun again

[white agate]

no more rerun only perma for her

[true panther]

Sad

[storm heron]

maybe their 2 skyraider is being used for taimeta

[soft raft]

It will be archived most likely next year
And Skyraider added to most likely gear lab a few months after

but i dunno if it'd be worth it to use a 3rd one

[stark quiver]

itll either
get archived and get the nj gun treatment or the shima torp treatment

[true panther]

NJ gun can be created on the Lab ?

[stark quiver]

it infact can

[viscid swift]

you could try Twin 90mms on Musashi and Unicorn, but also yeah Breguet on Unicorn and Wyvern on Aquila for better stagger

[true panther]

Time to play Op siren again

[storm heron]

maybe try roomba uni

[eager mulch]

[true panther]

Which CV is suitable for Wyvern ? Unicorn ?

[stark quiver]

a cv for campaign

[sharp socket]

also i 1st cleared 15-4 already but ill still use advice cause its not at safe yet

[nocturne glade]

i see, ty!

[white agate]

15-4 will never be safe

[true panther]

Aircraft

[sharp socket]

still have to get 4 more houston2 before i can leave it alone

[white agate]

yeah super carrier disappear i think either in safe mode or clear mode

[stark quiver]

clearing

[storm heron]

did bro got houstonII

[sharp socket]

check #trophy-room

[viscid swift]

do you not have the new ship notification turned on?

[storm heron]

is drake gun better for heavy than hinden gun?

[viscid swift]

assuming same enhance levels yes

[undone plover]

i think the difference is minimal tho
and if there are multi target bosses like for example this taihou fight u still want hinden gun cuz of the pierce from AP if I am not mistaken
so drake not rly worth +13 over hinden

[silk helm]

How's this for opsi

[stark quiver]

your fleet 3 is 100% wiffing your torps

[storm heron]

makes sense, I would keep the hinden gun then

[undone plover]

looks good overall but CV fleet needs a stop/slow
if u have eldridge put her in CV fleet
and kazagumo or any ARA ship also better than sandy

[stark quiver]

sandy has no place in fleet 3

[storm heron]

also wichita meta sometimes not low enough sadly

[stark quiver]

just use watatsumi

[silk helm]

Okay so change fleet three to anch eld sirius

[undone plover]

maybe main tank her and put eldridge off flag

[stark quiver]

amagi cv, shinano, avp , use kazagumo

[undone plover]

eldridge, ARA ship (like kazagumo) and sirius is better

[silk helm]

Okay, I don't think I have kaza yet

[undone plover]

check medal shop if u have DD

[storm heron]

I don't even have implac nor bisz

[undone plover]

if this is QEM skyraider is better than tenrai

[storm heron]

dont have aaa

[soft raft]

where is your AvP
or Ark Royal

[silk helm]

Me?

[soft raft]

no im taking to Fybre

[silk helm]

🙏🏻

[storm heron]

ark royal is basically nakh though

[soft raft]

A underutilized Nakh yes

[storm heron]

and then avp wont help with damage right

wait good point I haven't make sure if the root is connected

should I use avp then

[soft raft]

what I mean is you arent using another Russian slow to turn Nakh's slow into a freeze

[silk helm]

Is azuma better than Cheshire in mob

[storm heron]

yeah I used the 80% slow comp

also what is that skyraider

did you unsend it or

[undone plover]

double slow with eldridge is fine I think
better than AvP
but replace neko TB with bf109

[bright tusk]

is plymouth has higher ehp with rudder + toolkit or rudder + albion's report

[storm heron]

I could've sworn I saw skyraider better than tenrai

[undone plover]

oh wait nvm QEM is heavy

[storm heron]

I couldn't find the message :anxiety:

[undone plover]

yeah disregard what I said

[wary skiff]

so does clearing the boss node in northern overture give a chance for a chapayev drop every time and a confirmed chapayev after 60 runs?

[stark quiver]

did gph just turn into a democracy

[soft raft]

iirc yes to both
idk if getting the ship on a run counts or not towards the 60 run pity

[storm heron]

wait sorry is polling not allowed

[stark quiver]

i mean.......

[undone plover]

I dont think it is against the rules but I doubt u will get a lot of info from it
tbh I wouldnt +13 any of these
mog gun at some point sure but I doubt it will make difference for this fight

actually I wonder is a double buffed haku not better than nakhimov here?

[storm heron]

omg the stars aligned

[viscid swift]

why aren't you running great sword on wichita

also are the Manjuus really necessary

[storm heron]

from most of the fights michita barely got all the summons before the airstrike

[viscid swift]

why aviation Manjuu on everyone

you could just turn down your CV reload tech and run another catapult instead

[stark quiver]

damage cucking strats

[storm heron]

oh yea 0 cv rld btw

[verbal thistle]

Is the Prototype Spearfish better than the Wyvern for Taihou Meta? I'm like 100k off of one-shotting her.

[storm heron]

[soft raft]

I dont think you'd use either of those two for Tiahou META

esp when converging torpedo bombers do more damage against heavy armor

[verbal thistle]

I'm lacking one TB for Implac. I only have one of the Prototype Vit's

Just trying to find something to fill that slot tbh.

[soft raft]

cope wit like a Ryusei or a Ju-87

[storm heron]

+13 any conv torp better than a +11 wyvern

[verbal thistle]

The wyvern's +13, but I'll assume your point still stands

[slow fox]

Is Hood a good benchmark for mainline eHP?

[stark quiver]

just do penn

[slow fox]

*Benchmark in the same definition as we use Portland for VG eHP

[storm heron]

finally main ehp

nah penn better since more ships are heavy armored

[viscid swift]

well main fleet eHP is never really a factor

[slow fox]

For science

[viscid swift]

I mean if I had to choose

[eager mulch]

me

[viscid swift]

I would use W14 or W15 as a benchmark so say Nelson or Owari or something as benchmark

or I could be funny and say FDG

[storm heron]

nelson retro bench mark looks good

[runic bluff]

do I have skill issue if I cant one shot even with implac?

[slow fox]

Do people have a better feel for FDG tankiness than Nelson Retro tankiness?

[stark quiver]

yea

i mean fdg is pretty standard

[forest palm]

there is no consistent one shot, so not really

[viscid swift]

well we sort of treat FDG as the benchmark at that point for BBs

[storm heron]

depends, either you one shot or not depends on if you can land your airstriked after phantom ded

[slow fox]

Okay. I'll make mainline eHP, using FDG as 100%

[runic bluff]

do unzen can replace that wichita meta or there are other options better than unzen?

[forest palm]

there hasn't been such a thing as a 100% consistent comp that ones shots a meta for the past few meta fights

[storm heron]

also I feel like Maihou 4-shot main fleet can do QEMeta if they are oathed since all the torp connects before phantom spawned

[stark quiver]

unzen CANNOT replace wichita meta

[viscid swift]

well you're not replacing Wichita for QE META

[stark quiver]

infact, doing so will cuck your entire run

[runic bluff]

how cucked it is?

[viscid swift]

one shot impossible unless you kill in 2 strikes

[eager mulch]

you NEED a meta ship

[viscid swift]

you need a META ship to deal with the knights

[stark quiver]

inb4 some mf 1 strikes

[storm heron]

is great sword better btw?

[viscid swift]

well in that context yes

[stark quiver]

better survivability

[viscid swift]

Wichita has no yes for AA and FP would be preferable to hit

[storm heron]

well I only need this if I main tank michita I guess

Oh I am confusing between lance - greatsword and crossbow- sword

[viscid swift]

QE also revealed CVs didn't she which may not be helping matters

[storm heron]

I ran once and it barely

[viscid swift]

wait is Amagi flag

[storm heron]

nah it's nakh to sync

okay I ran two times after replacing with greatsword and got my 2nd and 3rd success

[sweet delta]

But lance gives both FP and HIT

[storm heron]

I guess gs is more consistent (?) since I see both my runs wichita still above half when mauling the summons

[nocturne glade]

who should I raise for 3rd BB? I also have NJ but shes not MLB so I just filtered her out

[soft raft]

Yeesh why did you raise Giulio that high
prob Riche or Gasco out of those pictured besides NJ

[viscid swift]

I call skill issue honestley

[storm heron]

thanks for the michelp.... nvm

[viscid swift]

if you still have attempst left send me a request and I'll whack some for you

[nocturne glade]

Didnt get hood until she was 120, probs shouldve swapped over to nelson at some point though

[storm heron]

nah I ran out tbh

[nocturne glade]

great, ty!

[storm heron]

but last two was 2nd and 3rd success

also I think I reduced dd and ca eva from 17 and 2 to 0 and 0

[eager mulch]

[slow fox]

I lied we're using Hood

[storm heron]

why not nelson retro

[stark quiver]

im shutting down mebot

[slow fox]

Nelson Retro requires a retrofit.

Hood's also more readily available and more widely experienced.

[thin wraith]

Is girlie here any good?

[viscid swift]

not really, pretty mediocre

[thin wraith]

That fills me with hope for my account… great…

[wary skiff]

How about chien

[soft raft]

average at best

[wary skiff]

Did u get her in the light pool?

[thin wraith]

Nah, heavy build pool. Why?

[wary skiff]

Was curious if she dropped off of the light event increase or whatever

Idk how the pools work for event stuff yet

[summer spade]

Is it worth it to retrofit warspite?

[sharp socket]

for usage no

[coral elk]

Only as a wifu

[storm heron]

not at all.

[barren tapir]

man i still havent found a use for the hvars (theyre just sitting in my depot's craft menu lmfao)

musashi was always hopeless tho just shitty timing for a new player bereft of coins right before a collab

[storm heron]

dang did you buy gear skins?

[barren tapir]

and the collab was important, momo was the single most important ship to make my strategy work, and nana definitely carried 15-2 boss

[barren tapir]

nope but getting 200k+ coins in a week is a tall ask from a relatively new player that had just reached ch12 recently (from what i remember)

i think i was also working on ruppy tech then

[storm heron]

unfortunate

[barren tapir]

on the bright side i got the next best UR aka rumey (tho honestly, the strategy i used wouldnt have worked if i was missing any single ship from my superfleet i used)

[keen sable]

this event is just simply extra ships in light.

[keen sable]

you should avoid pulling on heavy or special

[barren tapir]

indep isnt good enough to replace rumey, too squishy and i needed her tankiness and barrage for the AA boats. aquila is mandatory. uni is mandatory. momo is the suicide intercept and fleetwide healing, z52 and sandy both needed for asw+aa

[thin wraith]

Normally, i would agree... but hot shipgirl... can you blame me?

[keen sable]

yes

[wary skiff]

Yea that’s why I did like 20 pulls for her in heavy but didn’t get her and stopped lol

[thin wraith]

Well, that's a bit rude... but alright...

[wary skiff]

I’m at the point where I’m out of every resource including stuff in opsci and just scrounging a run once a day idk what else to do but do a random pull every once in awhile atm

[keen sable]

you get way more oil and ap per day than scrounging a run once

[wary skiff]

Oh I do the double sortie thing

Which nukes the 600 oil fast

[nocturne glade]

You get a lot more than 600 oil a day anyways

[barren tapir]

you get like 4k a day

i do understand though 🤝 im all out of oil too

[wary skiff]

Oh ya basically all of it is going to that event stuff, lool

[ivory pawn]

Would recommend not doing more than the 15 runs + tickets in the event.

[storm heron]

only true if you have access to w11+

[barren tapir]

oh i hope i have the oil to do that i prolly do

[keen sable]

well no wonder you're not get anything

[barren tapir]

rudder is a myth

[barren tapir]

more like access to war archives or ch9+ tbh...its really not good

[keen sable]

if you can do hard you can do cost limit somewhere...

[barren tapir]

the exp is not bad per se but the coin is dogshit and it drops like very little/no purple plates after boost ends

would do polaris sp5 instead 10/10 times

[south sequoia]

Whats w15 best supp fleet again? Rumey hwah jah indomi?

[wary skiff]

Yea I messed up first 5 or so days of the event, I was doing 15 hard 15 normal 15 easy + the 5 bonus tickets and it destroyed my oil stock lol

[south sequoia]

Cat?

[viscid swift]

Nahkimov

[ivory pawn]

Nakhimov.

[south sequoia]

Oh

[storm heron]

[south sequoia]

How many fighters does nakhi have?

[viscid swift]

6

[south sequoia]

Ohh

[keen sable]

well unless you were doing something weird like 100 oil easy, no that doesn't use a lot of oil

[wary skiff]

It’s about 3.5k+ the 5 tickets worth of oil for me to do all the runs alone

15 easy was 1.3k so yea I guess I was being weird

[keen sable]

so yeah you did something weird. because 20 hard is only 800 oil max

[wary skiff]

I did something weird

[keen sable]

which means you used 100 oil L120 fleets to wreck L10 ships on easy

[wary skiff]

yes

[viscid swift]

well that was, foolish

[keen sable]

and two capped ships too. nice

[wary skiff]

🫠

I was doing this on 3-4 for a moment for the foxes, instead of 1 vanguard 1 main

[storm heron]

1 gems

[supple ember]

whats the highest level a ship can be?

[keen sable]

your ships, 125

[soft raft]

as for the enemy, iirc like 130-131

[keen sable]

their ships, i guess 130 is the highest we've seen?

[sharp socket]

harby is 130, w15 boss is 130, dont think theres 131?

except special events where the boss becomes lv999 and your ships do like 30k dmg per shot

[keen sable]

still waiting for my 10,000 damage per bullet clevegun

[forest palm]

not frame-y enough lower the resolution further

[barren tapir]

that is weird because 20 hard is 500 oil max

[keen sable]

worst case includes subs

[barren tapir]

ohhh fair enough yes

man i just realized most of my motivation to raise subs ever has vanished

[supple ember]

whats w15?

[stark quiver]

chapter 15

[keen sable]

chapter 15. last chapter of the campaign currently

[supple ember]

oh i thought the 2 stood for world, and was like wait theres worlds??

wouldnt it just be ch15 for short

[elfin hollow]

would there be newer chapts in future updates? or W9 beyond is so hard it doesn't even matter at the moment?

[keen sable]

it certainly doesn't make a lot of sense. maybe that's what it's called in chinese and japanese?

[ivory pawn]

W9 is easy, just need levels. We might get ch16 someday.

[keen sable]

or people just call everything in games wX

[keen sable]

no one knows. there's more history if that's what you're worried about

[arctic aspen]

I waited like 6 hours can someone give me an answer

[elfin hollow]

idk but ECGC has the closest guide IIRC

[barren tapir]

everything is easy if you're prepared enough. also i expect ch16 to drop this year near october

[viscid swift]

well that means no one who has read it has the link

[barren tapir]

i know CN has a page like that but idk linky linky

[viscid swift]

I know there's a CN wiki page like that but don't know how to find it and I have suspicions on the quality of some of the fleets

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0
thx brica

[grave tusk]

Guys can someone bring me advice about chapter 14-3 and some fleet recommend+gear for lethal difficult for the battle i stuck in about 3 years in thats stage

[barren tapir]

my fleets kinda work

[viscid swift]

well what do you gave to work with

[arctic aspen]

this seems nice, thanks. If you find any alternatives pls let me know

preferably in english

[viscid swift]

probably not, and I would be inclined to say that's the best you're gonna get given the quality of Pillica's stuff

though I see it's not comprehensive for every fight

[barren tapir]

i can recommend this fleet https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1332314719264047174/image.png?ex=67981a06&is=6796c886&hm=a86a7cc41d53303eb0bff714f3c13bfd19be09fdff88eaa225d85c165d6a9c0b& but in all seriousness make a thread, post dock, so we actually know what you have

[grave tusk]

U have a some advice for me like a fleet and gear recommend for efficiency for clearly lethal? Im wanna cleared that's 14 chapter story

[viscid swift]

I do, but that's gonna depend on what you have to work with

[stark quiver]

yea thats the closest i have to a guide, idk what else

[viscid swift]

because I don't wanna recc a fleet that's gonna take 6 months to build or is far weaker than it needs to be

[viscid swift]

CN wiki has an archive of sorts for META showdown fleets

[arctic aspen]

once eldy retro and JintM' reruns next year I wont need to be asked the question of what do I have to work with lmao

[barren tapir]

cant properly recommend anything without knowing what you have to work with or what you can easily access currnetly

[keen sable]

you can try #bot-spam /w15

[viscid swift]

probably still will, just because you have a ship doesn't mean they're in a usable state

[barren tapir]

i gave u a fleet that works on lethal auto no subs, but only to show how unhelpful it is because you dont know what gear i used and you might not have all of or any of my ships

[sweet delta]

like my level 105 Curlew 💀

[arctic aspen]

I won't, unless there are a shit ton of UR must-have gear from the research

[viscid swift]

well gear is also a factor

[grave tusk]

Dont worry just like a fleet and gear recommend im129 now but stuck in chp 14-3

[barren tapir]

the point is just posting fleets that work isnt gonna help you

[viscid swift]

do you want me to assume you have every UR and relevant SR maxed?

because if you're not gonna give me any context that's what I will assume

[keen sable]

i believe #bot-spam /w15 has several sample fleets

[viscid swift]

oh and I will not skimp on gear either

[barren tapir]

firstly because you might not have the ships. secondly you might not have the fleet tech stats (tho in this case it isnt relevant cos i have very little), thirdly you might not have the meowfficers. fourthly you might not have the gear. fifthly, just copypasting fleets isnt gonna help you understand why they work

[keen sable]

can you clear 15 with only +13 rainbows?

[grave tusk]

Nah not all i have,im lost 2 UR zwei and Fritz but im maybe have all ur gear

[arctic aspen]

although I must have had burnout at the wrong time as I'm also missing the purples here

[barren tapir]

my fleets were selfcooked with full understanding of why i was bringing each ship and for what purpose

[viscid swift]

well what of the PR ships, are they all dev 30/FS5

[stark quiver]

what meta are you trying to fo

[arctic aspen]

algae

I found this one though, I will do this instead

[stark quiver]

so the prophecies were true

[grave tusk]

Yep already V all dev for SR

[sweet delta]

algeriem is, quite literally, just bisz plus 5

[arctic aspen]

[stark quiver]

someone really used implac with zwei

[barren tapir]

well there you go you cant copy my homework because you dont have rumey, point proven. show dock in thread.

[keen sable]

was there another use for hindy ever? kirm?

[arctic aspen]

thats my main way of playing, copying homework, I dont have time for all that nerding out

[barren tapir]

nerding out is fun tho

[arctic aspen]

sure, when people dont try to outnerd you and be as condescending as possible

[barren tapir]

tho in all seriousness indep prolly works in place of rumey i guess, tho u lose her nice 10s barrage and self-hide mechanic which really helps survivability

[stark quiver]

dont worry i also copy hw, because i am a casual player

[grave tusk]

Im used my cube for collab just for lala and then rumey is come and i fell wtf with thts collabs event and the next event is new UR and i don't getting a rumey

[barren tapir]

smh lala

in my experience nana and momo are by far the most valuable ship from that collab

[barren tapir]

yami pretty good too, great self sustain in mob

[grave tusk]

Nah man i just collect the collab because just have chance for the rerun if UR maybe will be rerun i think like that's

[barren tapir]

lala cant compare bulkwise to anchorage or even neptune, her dmg is only really good vs light from what ive seen and her debuffs are great but hard to take full advantage of. shes best outside campaign anyway

[keen sable]

a baguette...smh

[barren tapir]

oh man this will gigastomp everything

breguet for desyncing

it still uses 4 wyverns

[tender girder]

how to best collect battle data for roon?
my z23 is hardly ever MVP.... and she's been struggling with staying alive now htat i'm on chapter 9-10

[sweet delta]

missing mog gun

[barren tapir]

wdym doubt. breguet is waaay faster than wyvern. its clearly used here to pull amagi and shinano apart

[keen sable]

that's just rubbing it in, daring them to spend core data on it

[stark quiver]

when farming 12-1 , is it normal for my mvping and flag ship to steal all the xp, while the other 2 ships lag behind a lot, cuz junyou has been lvl 100 for a bit now

[arctic aspen]

Is there a way I can keep meta fight preset gear and PVP preset gear at the same time? or do I gotta get dupes

[sweet delta]

oh. change brest to guam. gg

[barren tapir]

having a couple breguets is worth it imo its useful for desyncing mob fleets

[soft raft]

Use three applicable ships + 3 other ships and go grind ideally W12

[viscid swift]

I mean if I really wanted to rub salt in, this would be it

[barren tapir]

like sure i also used it cos i lacked wyvern but having uni be 19s and aquila be 22s is pretty good actually

[soft raft]

You can save up to three presets at once per ship

[sweet delta]

where my goldburns at

[viscid swift]

good point

[soft raft]

Collab purgatory

[stark quiver]

Cuz out of the 3 backline, one has been really lacking in xp gain

[arctic aspen]

gear codes?

[soft raft]

Hell fucking no

[arctic aspen]

could I copy other people's homework with this thing?

[barren tapir]

sooo are we dunking on this dude or helping them?

[sweet delta]

bruh put fu shun in main fleet to be more efficient

[keen sable]

wyvern + manjuu/beacon is going to slaughter baguettes. you're thinking small

[viscid swift]

that's pretty normal

[barren tapir]

[stark quiver]

what?

[arctic aspen]

I just discovered this gear code thing, in loadouts

[barren tapir]

idk but i do think breguets are good regardless of wyvern existing

[viscid swift]

Fu Shun can't be retroed at level 77

[elfin hollow]

hello lovely chat-

I'm seeing some CV's use the purple homing beacon. Can either Unigoat or Hornet II use it?

[barren tapir]

the AA is solid and it has a fast rof

[viscid swift]

it's situationally dependent

[wind hazel]

what do you need

[viscid swift]

gear is tied most of the time to the content rather than the ship

[soft raft]

This is what I mean for example
W15 support, OpSi anti-heavy, and OpSi anti-light/med respectively

[barren tapir]

okay so do you still need help or can you copy what cheeky posted lul

[arctic aspen]

very useful loadout feature, although do they carry over to other platforms?

[wind hazel]

they don't carry between device

[keen sable]

they are unique to every device actually

[barren tapir]

not unless for syncing/desyncing

[arctic aspen]

ya gotta fuckin be kiddin me

[barren tapir]

be it to your other cvs or enemies

[elfin hollow]

so big no-no for my current status (grinding to W9)

[wind hazel]

make your own gear code, write it down on your private discord, import into 2nd device

[barren tapir]

waste of core data early. get shells

[stark quiver]

my guy, the least you can do when copying is look at your gear, and click the one the homework shows

[viscid swift]

or just use different ships for PvP and META showdowns

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

not like the 2 overlap much at the moment

[arctic aspen]

only ship I have a dupe of unzen and shima

[tender girder]

what is the default crit rate and crit dmg in this game?

[viscid swift]

Unzen isn't a top pick for PvP

[arctic aspen]

I know

[viscid swift]

neither is Shima these days for PvE esepcially with Unzen

[arctic aspen]

I was just making a point that I usually never have a 2nd UR lv 125 just so I dont have to deal with the annoying gear optimization

[viscid swift]

what

[arctic aspen]

shima was the only one I deliberately built for having one for opsi and one for pvp and then she fell off

[keen sable]

5 and 50

[barren tapir]

default crit is 5%, critdmg +50% iirc.

affected by hit/eva/lck

[viscid swift]

well you either put up with it or get worse results, no real inbetween and not the place to complain about such things

[barren tapir]

[arctic aspen]

not really that funny since it was worth it in the end, got my moneys worth

[wind hazel]

what's so hard about creating 2 loadout for pvp shima and pve shima

[stark quiver]

what the berke

[arctic aspen]

never said it was hard, it's just nice to be more time efficient especially given how many times I had to reset my emulator

[storm heron]

what berke?

[wind hazel]

so just write down the loadout gear code in your private discord, like i said earlier...

[arctic aspen]

private discord?
Also you told me that?

I only just discovered gear codes so I must have missed that

[viscid swift]

or just save presets on all devices

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

bro has nitro but not private discord

[arctic aspen]

no correlation

[barren tapir]

i thought everyone had a private discord ngl

[wind hazel]

it's free

or you can write them down in a notepad. on a paper. on your gf's book

[arctic aspen]

I have a public server, ig I can use that in the al channel and pin it again I missed the comment, he didn't reply to me and I had said I only just know discovered the existence of this feature, so I thought he was talking about a specific server

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

@grave tusk I don't accept DMs btw, if you wanna ask me something ask it in the channel please

[storm heron]

get boundaried

[arctic aspen]

gotta get that helpslave clout

Is there any place where people discuss gear codes? or is it mostly unused?

[grave tusk]

Why?

[storm heron]

maybe cause it feels too personal (?)

[viscid swift]

a matter of personal prefference, and I just prefer to keep such discussion in a more public place for more opinions and such

I also find it a bit too much of a hassle on my end

[viscid swift]

they're ignored because 99.99% of them are shit

[grave tusk]

Ok

[wind hazel]

the only reason to use gear code is really because you are on a brand new device and you're lazy to dig your depot. that's it

[storm heron]

just memorize...

[grave tusk]

Did u hv advice for replace flapjack? I just hv 2 flaps all of my ordnance used for CA UR gun

[viscid swift]

Tigercats or Sea Hornets if you have them, otherwise Hellcats

[keen sable]

Sounds way too hard to share. Imagine making a +11 confetti to prove a point when rencodes exists

Ur ca gun sounds like a terrible investment

[supple ember]

what do you do with dupes of a ship if they are already limit break t3?

[grave tusk]

Nah i just collect for UR things sometimes too lazy for change gear in other ship

[viscid swift]

retire them for medals

[storm heron]

depends, but most cases you retire them

[fickle hollow]

what is the use of luck stat?

[supple ember]

what else can you do?

[keen sable]

Everything

[fickle hollow]

Probability?

[fickle hollow]

everything? how?

[keen sable]

More damage dealt and less damage taken. So that covers everything

[fickle hollow]

[grave tusk]

Which hellcat hvar or the original one ?

[keen sable]

You heavily implied you just crafted one to copy which is bad. You shouldn't copy without understanding especially when you can't copy all.

[viscid swift]

the one with Bombs not rockets

[storm heron]

multiple secretaries of the same ship with different skins, level 1 for some ships for gaining high scores in EX stage, or just simply collection cause you like it. You only need to consider this for URs or and other very hard to obtain event or gacha ships, easily obtainable ship copies are very retirable for medals even though you don't have max limit broken, especially if you don't have enough medals

[fickle hollow]

i have 2 skins on Shinano is there a way to use both the skins simultaneously ?

As secretaries

[keen sable]

2 shinanos...

[fickle hollow]

[supple ember]

oh i see, so is it not worth it to use the copy to use as an enhancement material?

[keen sable]

Anything worth medals is worth medals

Which is rare and up

[storm heron]

of no, enhancement materials are common only

[supple ember]

yeah but doesnt using the same ship in enhancement give you more xp towards the stats?

[keen sable]

Not worth medal loss

[storm heron]

dont use rare for enhancements, you can get more commons for max enhancements more than you'll ever need

[viscid swift]

that's negligable in the grand scheme of things

[supple ember]

oh ok, i was referring to ssrs but then i guess that means defintely dont use them for food

[keen sable]

Definitely

[supple ember]

materials*

[fervent hazel]

Hey all, pretty new to the game. As I understand (in general) each fleet frontline should be left to right heavy cruiser, destroyer, light cruiser? Assuming that's correct I have a Northampton 4*, mlb and almost max retrofit laffey , and a 4* shimikaze. Is there a straightforward answer to which two of the three are best for my two fleets or are they all about equal

[grave tusk]

Wht about the cat ? Meow

[stark quiver]

any good cat you have

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

Use the best you have

[viscid swift]

No

Don't generalize ship capabilities by hull type

Also pretty much by default laffey would be the best of those 3

[storm heron]

newbie guide
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[fervent hazel]

Wild considering it's like the default first ship?? Better than the ur and sr

[storm heron]

it's because she's max limit broken, which adds a significant boost to her kit

[viscid swift]

No because she's MLB while the other 2 are stuck at LB1

[soft raft]

Well I highly doubt your Shimakaze is even LB1

And non MLB ships are missing huge chunks of their kit and stats

[fervent hazel]

2 nodes from mlb I mistyped

[storm heron]

They said they have 4 star shimakaze

but yea

[soft raft]

Yeesh
Don't limit break a UR unless you can MLB her in one go

[supple ember]

also where can i get t3 retrofit blueprints from?

[soft raft]

Esp when the extremely likely Feb UR will likely have a higher priority than Shimakaze

[fervent hazel]

No I'm dumb I confused limit break and retrofit. It is max limit break and 2 nodes from max retrofit sorry

[soft raft]

Farm hard mode W3+

[supple ember]

do higher chapters give higher chances?

[stark quiver]

they drop gold retro prints

[storm heron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
Look for Retrofit Blueprints

Handy in'it?

[supple ember]

word thanks

sucks theres no combine feature for lower tier items to upgrade to the next tier. i have hundreds of tier 2 blueprints....

[storm heron]

Yes, the only reason you rotate hard mode stages every week or so

[plain saffron]

Why there's bot in this channel

[glacial widget]

whats the best way to test different fleet comps and try to compare damage?

[soft raft]

Why are you typing like this?

[wind hazel]

test them on a boss under same environment

[storm heron]

It just feels like a superior way of texting

[soft raft]

[fickle hollow]

Is Suisei Kai any good? should i craft?

[wind hazel]

no

[soft raft]

Niche af for timing
Unless I'm thinking of another plane

[fickle hollow]

[keen sable]

if you need it

[storm heron]

use mrlar's tool first to see the cd before you actually craft and upgrade it, just in case your timing needs non-maxed suisei kai

[inner delta]

do you have to write like a maniac

be normal

[storm heron]

got it

[fickle hollow]

how many plates would i need to +13 a gold plane?

[fickle hollow]

I was asking because i saw this

[shell willow]

120 for any gold equip

[versed forum]

is it possible to brute force arbiter (hard)? with just mob and boss (cv) fleet

[keen sable]

well that's wrong

[storm heron]

no don't, idk where you get that but point 4 and point 5 are almost not usable

[plain saffron]

If that boss fleet is superoptimized for that boss with all maxed stats etc then yes

[fickle hollow]

What abt this

[keen sable]

it's a timing plane. a very good one. generally used for 4 strike ijn teams

[storm heron]

point 4 doesn't even mention the cost of 3 months worth of ordnance smh

[plain saffron]

Converging
Use any that fit your timing

[storm heron]

interesting cause never heard of them being used

[keen sable]

don't bother if you don't have like 39+ rld. cn is using it for those who don't want to use soynyah

[atomic abyss]

That's because you seldom see dive bombers being used for bossing outside IJN and yk2

[copper ermine]

I dont have as many ships properly leveled so im still using a general team, if I have prinz rupprecht as mobbing flagship then should friedrich replace nelson as boss fleet flagship or use both?

[atomic abyss]

Replace nelson

[storm heron]

probably I should bother with my 40 rld

[atomic abyss]

Assuming FdG is dev 30

Also assuming Ruppy is Dev 30

[copper ermine]

they both are, ive just slacked on the other part for friedrich

[soft raft]

Someone using Prinz Rupper unironically? Insane

[atomic abyss]

Aurora is

[storm heron]

so how's the comp looking?

[molten zinc]

4 strike or some weird boss mechanic like Rodney when you need to off sync your airstrike so much

[hushed dawn]

How strong is Hwah Jah Kai?

Mid? Decent? Negligible?

[wind hazel]

great support w15

[hushed dawn]

That's surprising.

[wind hazel]

but that's it

[storm heron]

probably good for anti light/med if you have hvars but not yorktown for some reason

[grave tusk]

Oh thanks man it's work but with a little improvement with some gear

I can do in auto gameplay finally not used manual analog

[keen sable]

ijn? it's just the predictable amagii, shinano, implacable. make em fast enough for 4 strike sans nagato. cn says 41 rld, oath, 2 bearcats, and a model 12a. easy peasy not. can't bring myself to make 2 bearcats.

[storm heron]

beacon, 41 rld, oath 200, bearcats, suisei kai

[teal heron]

Is there a UR ship limit break priority list

[wind hazel]

no, usually depends on your dock

[storm heron]

case-by-case basis

[molten zinc]

And a bunch of Saiun

[storm heron]

6 +13 saiuns

[keen sable]

hey 1 junker

[plain saffron]

Have 6 +13 of each cpnverging torp

[keen sable]

amagii fast enough for a junker

[storm heron]

nahh I don't see where 6 junkers will be useful tbh

[molten zinc]

Using MrLar tool, Implac + Amagi + Shinano can launch 4 strike in 80s without oath but gotta use Fulmar on Shinano

[barren tapir]

um hi

idk why ppl think she's bad, shes pretty good for a gold

[plain saffron]

Bcs not ur = bad

[storm heron]

exactly.

[teal heron]

These are who i havent limit broken yet any recs

[barren tapir]

[wind hazel]

show the ones you have mlb too

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

basically show every UR, don't filter them out

[molten zinc]

[barren tapir]

tbf i did replace her for yami honestly tho overall she and yami are basically identical

[storm heron]

question was too menacing

the whole gph trembled in feaer

[barren tapir]

in overall performance. yami has better barrage, ruppy has better dmg uptime

[barren tapir]

what's this? new discord feature?

[sweet delta]

launch 4 strikes but what about land 4 strikes?

[molten zinc]

Lemme check when their last airstrike launch

[storm heron]

amagi is obvious, can shinano and implac though

[wind hazel]

is it

[barren tapir]

someday ppl will be like "why'd you pick yami for 15-4 over ruppy" and im gonna go "i liked her voiceline with nana"

[teal heron]

Z52 and mogador at the bottom

[molten zinc]

77s is like 00:03 left??

[storm heron]

saiun takes about 3

[molten zinc]

Implac can probably hit yeah Shinano idk

[wind hazel]

i'd go for alsace

[barren tapir]

is that including the 1.5s stage delay

ah yes it is ic

[storm heron]

apparently shinano can 4 strike without oath with 41 rld, faster than implac even

[barren tapir]

feels like it needs to go slightly faster

[storm heron]

which is kinda weird

[barren tapir]

cursed 2nd plane

[molten zinc]

use this so Implac go 2nd

[storm heron]

that won't make it...

[molten zinc]

oh yeah probably just change Amagi third slot to Ju-87 and 2nd slot to Saiun make her go last

but then Shinano just nearly a whole 1s off

[soft raft]

Ik she's not dogshit, but you'd think most people wouldn't see a need to use her by the time they get to PR5

[sweet delta]

where did you find this? asking for my friend

[storm heron]

ez cook, idk if this is gonna be damage-sufficient though

[stark quiver]

just have max tech and oaths

[wind hazel]

just 3 strike 4Head

[molten zinc]

it only need max tech if using fulmar

[wind hazel]

whats the requirement for this 4 strike, helena 1 scan or something?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

for a near maxed accs, needs more otherwise

[molten zinc]

remember to give her a SG radar if running 4 strike

[storm heron]

I'm probably just gonna use this one

[cobalt rapids]

ill probably just use akagi

[zenith heron]

About augments...

Does Plymouth prefer the Sword over the Crossbow?

Then Hindenburg prefers the Lance over the Broadsword?

[quartz jungle]

Err using the Zero?

[zenith heron]

thanks, forgor to check your website

[storm heron]

well idk the exact damage breakpoints

[stark quiver]

does meta have supporting barrage now

kewl

[storm heron]

idk if using akagi will work (?)

[molten zinc]

[cobalt rapids]

not with implacable for sure

[slow fox]

RenPerson spotted

[cobalt rapids]

either way i was just joking
just use the ur cvs

[quartz jungle]

Is this an Akagamagi comp lmao

[cobalt rapids]

~~or was i #trophy-room message ~~

[stark quiver]

guys, how many event hard mode runs do i need to do to get a ship from 100 >200 aff

[storm heron]

looks promising for a meta four strike ngl... I guess they just deal lower damage than the slow ijn 3-strike comp

3-strike amagi shina haku or this 4 strike?

[barren tapir]

true its probably only ppl who arent a big fan of fdg who'd go that way.

(i dont mind fdg per se but i dont feel particularly enthused by her either and she costs a dock slot just like every other pr/dr im not super enthralled by, so they can wait)

[pliant sage]

What does main gun base +1 mean when lb'ing?

[storm heron]

pew pew instead of pew

[stark quiver]

another gun mount

[molten zinc]

[barren tapir]

if only the chibis followed this

[pliant sage]

So it really was just that, i thought it maybe meant something else lol

[sweet delta]

If only the BMs had 3 MGM. They'd still suck though

[molten zinc]

still gotta grind them for CA +RLD anyway

[barren tapir]

give them 4 mgm

[storm heron]

sorry, by any chance are you a content creator?

[molten zinc]

no

[storm heron]

oh ok sorry wrong person

[pliant sage]

Which one should i focus on next?

[wind hazel]

musashi

[keen sable]

bulins go to non permanent ur

[stark quiver]

did you think they were quyet dawg

[storm heron]

stop reading my mind

[barren tapir]

CA rld for better uptime on lala's dmg reduction skill

[pliant sage]

Hell yeah, wanted to go for musashi, to up my sakura empire power

Still annoyed that i only got hornet 2 and hamman 2 from the last banner, and i pulled hornet 2 3 times.

[keen sable]

well hopefully it doesn't happen to you again in a month

[magic shell]

how to do this can someone explain me please ?

[wind hazel]

use 3 Ironblood main fleet ships, repeat sortie at chapter 12 until 100%, submit

[magic shell]

is this three good ?

[wind hazel]

that's only 1 out of 3 Ironblood mainfleet ship

[magic shell]

oh ok

[wind hazel]

this is your mainfleet

[magic shell]

ohhh

[wind hazel]

go to your dock and filter using these

[magic shell]

now good ?

[wind hazel]

well, not really

[barren tapir]

i mean its fine for ch12 farming

[keen sable]

only use mlb ships

[magic shell]

[barren tapir]

like actually, ive used 0lb URs in ch12 farming exp/affection and it works fine so

[wind hazel]

it's not fine when lutzow stucks at lv70 and waste the exp

[barren tapir]

well yeah i'd mlb her. but rumey is whatever

[wind hazel]

there might be better ship to mlb than lutzow too...

[magic shell]

i will level her now i have lot of exp and money

[barren tapir]

i got rumey and z52 both to a highish lvl and max affection before deciding to mlb them xd

[magic shell]

ok

btw what is mlb ?

[barren tapir]

max limit break

[keen sable]

max limit break

[magic shell]

o.o

[wind hazel]

can you show your ironblood main fleet ships?

[stark quiver]

also anyone know?

[magic shell]

in docks room ?

@wind hazel

[wind hazel]

assuming no mvp, 1600 battles

[stark quiver]

the tech grind comes to a halt once again

[wind hazel]

yeah i guess you don't have any choice

[magic shell]

okay

[jaunty vault]

are you assuming full fleet or mob only also how many runs is that also are you assuming positive morale

[wind hazel]

i assume 0.0625 every fight

tbh that amount sounds kinda crazy to me

not sure if i did something wrong

[barren tapir]

0.0625 per battle, * 2 if mvp. more or less

[keen sable]

it is an impossble fraction for the game

[jaunty vault]

won't be crazy once you divide it by 6 or 7

[barren tapir]

it sounds normal to me, each 12-1 run is 6 battles which is already half an affection if mvp

[stark quiver]

how much oil is it

to get 200 aff using event hard

[barren tapir]

then again idk either bc we're all just spouting wiki number did anyone even test

[wind hazel]

x20 isnt it

[jaunty vault]

sounds calculable

[wind hazel]

32k oil

[barren tapir]

25

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

oh 25 more

40k, less than hvar

[barren tapir]

if anyones curious my current event droprate is 5.56%

[keen sable]

it's probably closer to .06 but lots of rng. just get lucky and it'll take 2 battles. not

[barren tapir]

10 prints in 180 runs

[wind hazel]

do you still have BB medal on your medal shop?

if you have it, grab Tirpitz and use her instead of Lutzow

[magic shell]

who is tirpitz ?

[wind hazel]

2nd from right

[magic shell]

i don t have her

[keen sable]

queen of the north and she's lonely

[wind hazel]

yes i know... so check if you still have your BB medal on your medal shop

[magic shell]

oh ok

[magic shell]

ye i saw her should i get her she good ?

[wind hazel]

she's a better investment than Lutzow

[magic shell]

ok tyy

[wind hazel]

she isn't exactly good but she gives better tech at lv120, so you might as well level her during your PR grind

+2 FP, very nice

[magic shell]

ohhhh

done

[wind hazel]

great, exp book her to lv70, max limit break her, start grinding

[tropic tusk]

is there any mechanic on h12-x?

[barren tapir]

no its just ch12 but higher level

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[wind hazel]

planes are stronger

[storm heron]

I removed pvp from my channel list

[barren tapir]

ch12 has planes??

yknow i dont even want to think about a hypothetical ch15 hm in 2027

[wind hazel]

relax, ch14H isn't even here yet. maybe there's super sub that will tear a massive hole on your laffey

[tropic tusk]

so i assume h only goes up to 13?

[quartz jungle]

Would have to somehow bypass the Eldridge immunity first

[barren tapir]

ch14h but its just ch14 but with ch15 levels of planes tossed on top

[elfin hollow]

Just starting what server Best to join

[nocturne glade]

just realised avps shipyard exp was for main fleet ships, was farming with 1 ship the whole time i guess..

[barren tapir]

doesnt matter tbh cos end of month so medal rotation will change before u could prolly grind enough. pick ur favorite shipgirl or random or where your friends, if any, are

[quartz jungle]

Wrong channel reply lol

[hallow mountain]

How good is Albion? I just got her

[wind hazel]

she's alright

[hallow mountain]

Aight

[sweet delta]

Sounds like someone's fishing for perma URs

[storm heron]

now I know why people hate pvp

[hallow mountain]

Kashino

[sweet delta]

[hallow mountain]

I'm trying to get Kashino, but I got Shimikaze and Ulrich, both of which I already have

Suffering from success

[quartz jungle]

Yeah you have to be patient and not quit after one bad set lol

[viral remnant]

anyway to incease text speed and skip animation on project identity1 ? it so slow compare to 2

[hallow mountain]

There's a skip animation toggle

Before you start the week there's an option that shows you

[viral remnant]

how can i blank activities?

[tropic tusk]

just put her in rest or somth

[crisp raven]

certain activities can only be done on certain days. i forget how the ui looks, but somewhere ther should be a filter. turn them off to see whats available on the blank days

[viral remnant]

it very very slow . im sleeply - -*

how many month/week to complete 1 run of identity1 ?

[tropic tusk]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 better ask here

[warm trail]

uni(r) / lucky e / musashi - portland r / sandy r / laffy r. works?

[tropic tusk]

for wt

[warm trail]

idk

[tropic tusk]

then idk also

depending wht ur using it for the answer will be different

[versed forum]

should i run c4 or c2?, already finished c3,5, and 6 i have nothing to do

[jaunty vault]

all of them

[tropic tusk]

normally u will run them all

[jaunty vault]

or none

[tropic tusk]

if u dont use them by the end of the month they will become this

[barren tapir]

all, and how do you have so few vouchers

[forest palm]

Those loggers will give mats which are more valuable in the long run

[versed forum]

so what use of voucher? I have 4k

[storm heron]

3194

[versed forum]

Is it same with meta shop nothing worth buying

[barren tapir]

normally you get 10-15k per month, 3k is shockingly low

[tropic tusk]

maybe new player

[barren tapir]

idk i still got like 9k my first month

[versed forum]

I skipped almost half a month because im lazy

[tropic tusk]

dont undertand how the game works at first month?

[barren tapir]

which was like 12 days long btw

[storm heron]

lvl 70 detected

[barren tapir]

idk that's fair im just surprised

[tropic tusk]

i dont even remebmer wht i had on my first month

all i remember was after first month i was like wtf map reset need to clear all map again

[barren tapir]

just remembered i still have 3 classified loggers, should i get a third wyvern or

do i need a third wyvern if ive beaten ch15 lol like what do i even go for now?

[wind hazel]

making stronger opsi teams

[tropic tusk]

just cleear everyhing

[barren tapir]

i mean UR print wise, what gear

[storm heron]

I seriously could not believe that this aurora is first time playing

[tropic tusk]

same

[wind hazel]

wait for tenrai

[tropic tusk]

he knows more then me

[barren tapir]

oh shit yea tenrai

[quartz jungle]

Tenrai is likely to not use the same resources as Wyvern though

[wind hazel]

how do you know

[storm heron]

I say save until next month, it's not like there's anything useful anyways, you're strong enough to farm w12 and book flow is efficient

[barren tapir]

nah i get it, wait to see

[sweet delta]

yeah, wait and see if UR AA gives 20 HIT

[storm heron]

in b4 tenrai 12 ur prints

[barren tapir]

i hope it gives 100 TRP to boost my nana Wait that's oxytorps

[nocturne glade]

I was wondering reading the ch15 help thread, is Nana good or was it because of the limited timeframe you had to play?

[barren tapir]

na tho im like this in any game i get really invested in, i dont do things by halves

[quartz jungle]

Purely wows gear as opposed to equipment that was used IRL, I admit I could be wrong

[barren tapir]

nana is good on manual at least, high dmg and dmg uptime with heavy lean and doesnt die

did fine auto in ch14 too

[storm heron]

foreshadowing moment

[sweet delta]

stalker moment

[nocturne glade]

I see, guess the eva buff does work

[barren tapir]

damn i dont even remember when i said that lol

long time ago

[sweet delta]

2024 september 27, according to his time zone

[quartz jungle]

That's like what, your second month playing

[barren tapir]

bro taking my quotes for future AL gospel

[storm heron]

uhh, nana... I mean I personally wouldn't recommend tbh unless you got no better ships...

[barren tapir]

i noticed auto v manual diff early on when progressing amagi event

[sweet delta]

what are better ships?

[barren tapir]

but she did 200k damage to 15-2 boss

clearly best t2 ship

[storm heron]

dangit ectl

[barren tapir]

but uhhh see i dont actually suggest just taking some ship off someones word, try it yourself and see how your ships fit together

[storm heron]

all the top tier dds are either limited, expensive, or takes a long time bruhh

[sweet delta]

what did you expect, unicorn helena left right and center?

[storm heron]

[tropic tusk]

[storm heron]

my bad

[barren tapir]

also shud be obvious but manual and auto are very different, what works on manual may not work on auto whatsoever

like my triple cv superfleet with basically 5 AA carries, this only works on manual and requires momo

[storm heron]

nana kinda cheap too...

[quartz jungle]

You can get Kawakaze semi-fast if you PvP

[sweet delta]

Tbh

[wind hazel]

you can get kitakaze very fast if you pay too 💳

[storm heron]

well yeah newbs aren't gonna get 15k in like months if they are playing in like avrora or amagi
||unless pay*||

[sweet delta]

Ibuki is a very good and permanently available DD

[storm heron]

pamiat, san diego, harbin

[quartz jungle]

Nah I've seen PvPers starting new accounts get her in 2 weeks

Granted you need to know what you are doing

[barren tapir]

[tropic tusk]

theres not really a point to speed run pvp as they will reset every idk when...right?

[storm heron]

kinda surprised if that's true tbh

maybe I was just unlucky with my samples

[whole crypt]

getting what in 2 weeks

[storm heron]

kawakaze

[whole crypt]

20k merits isn't happening in 2 weeks from scratch unless you're really lucky

[tropic tusk]

uvh is the one taht can offlag right?

[wary skiff]

are these rng? mine was SR SS + SR DD

[plain saffron]

technically more can offflag, unless you mean the one that have offflag gimmick

[cobalt rapids]

all UR bb can offflag

[wind hazel]

yea different server different medal shop rotation

[whole crypt]

each server has a different rotation

[tropic tusk]

yes offlage gimmick

[whole crypt]

they are rng each month but everyone in the same server will get the same

[tropic tusk]

is Emden useable in anywhere?

[whole crypt]

define usable

[tropic tusk]

like decent

[elfin hollow]

What is best server to Play just started

[whole crypt]

any

[tropic tusk]

do enough dmg / support

[whole crypt]

emden has ok damage and a KMS FP buff but not really used anywhere

[tropic tusk]

rip so shes more of a collection

[whole crypt]

like 95% of the roster yes

[tropic tusk]

sad

[thick parrot]

Just started on Operation Siren. How long does it take to complete the story? And is it hard? I'm at Chapter 2-5

[whole crypt]

depends on your fleets, if you just unlocked the mode your fleets are probably going to be under for pushing

if you can make a couple decent lv100+ setups you can probably clear up to ch4 within a day

[crystal vortex]

Is it good?

[whole crypt]

not MLB = 🚮

[chrome jackal]

what ships from shipyard sould i work on?

[whole crypt]

otherwise the planes depend on what you're using her for, helldiver will probably be better than skyraider for mobbing, bossing will want different planes depending on boss and setup

[barren tapir]

no skills = 🚮

[barren tapir]

anchorage and fdg

[chrome jackal]

well anchorage it is then since i already finished fdg

[whole crypt]

Agir's also fair game since you can coin her now, but Anchorage can probably be put to use sooner

[barren tapir]

do both

[whole crypt]

plus coining Agir would mean not coining FdG

[chrome jackal]

those are the only ones im missing and napoli cuz she didnt fit in the screen shot

[wind hazel]

anchorage

[whole crypt]

Anchorage then yeh

[chrome jackal]

could these 6 make 2 fleets for 12-4 farming?

[whole crypt]

what are you farming for

[chrome jackal]

anchorage combat data

[forest palm]

those 6 would easily farm 12-4

[whole crypt]

if Anchorage XP just use any not capped USS vanguard

[chrome jackal]

wdym by not capped

[dreamy blade]

seems a bit overkill, especially since minneapolis is already 125

[chrome jackal]

dam 125 is over kill for 12-4?

[dreamy blade]

yes? and the exp is wasted

[chrome jackal]

who sould i use then some other SR ship?

[dreamy blade]

depending on the main fleet you could easily carry a lv70-80 ship and get them some exp, i usually like to level ships with good 120 tech for cdc

[forest palm]

I mean Guam + Laffey II + Pittsburg/Helena/Allen would be fine enough for one team

[chrome jackal]

would that work for mob to carry a low lvl ship?

[dreamy blade]

definitely

[wind hazel]

dont use capped ship for exp farming

[chrome jackal]

i dont need a healer for exp farming?

[wind hazel]

no

[dreamy blade]

not with those ships

[warm trail]

what are these? asmr?

[dreamy blade]

i'll bring unicorn if im raising a full frontline of bad/underleveled ships, but yours are fine

[warm trail]

wattt game hav asmrrrr!!>>???? dayuuum

[wind hazel]

you dont need unicorn either

[storm heron]

I don't think you'll ever need unicorn tbh

[dreamy blade]

i definitely do but again only for

full frontline of bad/underleveled ships

[chrome jackal]

any of these worth leveling?

(not including san diego) i will never use her

[wind hazel]

why not

[chrome jackal]

i dont like her at all lmao

[wind hazel]

unlucky. she's one of the best ship in the game

[chrome jackal]

ik

[forest palm]

Sandy has the most value there, but all of them outside of I think Reno have go 120 value

[chrome jackal]

even tho id need it for 13-1 - 13-4 ill find a difrant way for it

[barren tapir]

oof poor sandy, i love her

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

oh, wait Bristol and Ingram is HP

[storm heron]

balti fargo monti san dran bremerton northampton

san diego I think gives AA

[true grove]

Balti and Bremerton have good AA too if I remember

[whole crypt]

you don't need SR ships specifically, even og Laffey and Portland fair game if they're not 120 yet

[forest palm]

no they're average at best

[chrome jackal]

i dont think iv ever even used em after a certin point

[forest palm]

Reno is a worse Sandy

[dreamy blade]

laffey is fp tech definitely worth 120

[whole crypt]

if you're done with beginner missions for them then it's kind of whatever

[storm heron]

reno's that good?

[whole crypt]

much worse Sandy

[chrome jackal]

yeah im done im sitting at lvl 111 rn

[forest palm]

I'm not even talking about Retro, or just Augment Sandy, talking about base Sandy

[whole crypt]

then just use them for the grind and get them for 120 for tech

[storm heron]

oh just literal sandy

[whole crypt]

Reno isn't worse than base Sandy but she's also not really better

[chrome jackal]

are any of them worth using in OPSI?

[dreamy blade]

baltimore maybe for a yk2/uss cv fleet

[wind hazel]

only these 3 for meta picks. the rest are waifu picks

[chrome jackal]

this is what my OPSI fleets look like havent update em since they were formed

[woven star]

Is any reason to use Amazon for leveling dds? This xp buff looks insignificant

[crystal vortex]

What do you think guys gear for shinano

[dreamy blade]

only if youre leveling amazon herself for tech

[crystal vortex]

[whole crypt]

wasted gold plates pain me

[crystal vortex]

@wind hazel

[storm heron]

+11 suisei

still better than my +11 wyvern

[crystal vortex]

I need book gold

[whole crypt]

the XP adds up for the ships you're leveling, but you're also wasting XP on Amazon herself

[wind hazel]

1st slot could be okay
2nd slot very bad
3rd slot could be okay
aux gear good but not fixed
augment good situationally

[storm heron]

u don't use gold plates.

[crystal vortex]

Check out yours

[wind hazel]

not fixed gear as well

[whole crypt]

Shinano's gear depends on where you're using her

[crystal vortex]

I don't have a plane UR

[woven star]

I know, 3 dds will get 3k xp and with Amazon buff 2 dds will get about 2720. Seems better level 3 dds

[whole crypt]

you can use purple

[chrome jackal]

would this work as the mob fleet? and the 2nd for boss? or sould there be sum ships who sould be swaped around?

[crystal vortex]

Ok ok i try it

[wind hazel]

again, don't use capped ships

remove york, perseus, minnea

[whole crypt]

where are you using Shinano though, that's a OS/showdown bossing setup

[storm heron]

4/4 now with the final fleet

[barren tapir]

is using capped backliners really an issue when you have cog limit

[crystal vortex]

I see

[storm heron]

what issue?

[chrome jackal]

hm alr sould i replace york and perseus with yorktown II and hornet II? and minnea replaced with baltimore or reno?

[wind hazel]

yes, because you're not raising the unraised ships

you're essentially wasting the exp that could be gained

[barren tapir]

i guess if ur not cog blocked and in a rush

im very chill

[wind hazel]

anything works, as long as they are properly geared, at adequate level, and max limit broken

[chrome jackal]

what would count as adequate level xD

[wind hazel]

lv90~100 is enough for ch12 exp farm

can even go lower since you're using very strong ships like Guam lol

[chrome jackal]

i mean thats rn what theyr looking like

[storm heron]

[chrome jackal]

i kinda need to get coins to max yorktown II on limit breaking

[wind hazel]

those aren't at adequate level and max limit broken

[chrome jackal]

i got them from the rerun lol

[crimson glacier]

are you sure you want to limit break york2

[wind hazel]

you can use other faction for your main fleet, you know

anchorage only requires USS vanguard. not the main fleet ~_~

[whole crypt]

as long as the chipcapped ships haven't hit 3M

or however much you want to bank for 120

[chrome jackal]

ik but idk who els would be worth whiel leveling

[woven star]

Hornet maybe a ship which you don't like mlb. Any Enterprise?

[crystal vortex]

@wind hazel like this huh

Ok