gameplay-help

[storm heron]

CM boss? event hard boss?

[dense briar]

Oh sorry, for campaign yes

[storm heron]

looks like they are in the same tier

at least ectlly

regally they are the same D....D tier too

[dense briar]

Are there any tier list i can use as a guide? Been looking at Slaimuda's but people been saying its unreliable

[keen sable]

ectl correctly says there are lots of better choices

well not lots but fu shun is an obvious one

[storm heron]

slaimuda's fully reliable for campaign up to ch13, reliability diminish exponentially as you go up

[rain vine]

you need to read the descriptions, but theyre slow with adding them

[storm heron]

regal is this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[keen sable]

descriptions?

[dense briar]

Ohh i see, good thing im working on her now. Since there's a free retrofit item

[keen sable]

if you want to read bad jokes, read the descriptions

[storm heron]

those are for evaluations purpose, for parameter comparing purpose we got the AA chart, EHP chart

[keen sable]

that's what makes her more affordable right now than the other ddg

[barren tapir]

kiev and allen are apparently better than nana according to ectl

by that logic, both should work very well in ch14

[shell willow]

not yet

[barren tapir]

just as an example of it being unreliable

(tho ur free to try it out, ch14 isnt too hard)

[soft raft]

Currently all of PR1-4 and the PRs in PR5 are coinable

Don't expect Kear to be coinable anytime soon since Agir and Haku only became coinable last week

[storm heron]

I mean nana is torp based which probably has more advantage in blind w14

[barren tapir]

very true

when i put her in mob she mvped half the time

for boss u have lighthouse + flares so concealment shouldnt be that big a diff there. but idk how ch14 mechanics work

[cobalt gate]

secrets come back right?

[cobalt gate]

oh nice

[zenith heron]

I guess I'll give it a try...

Me a few minutes later:

[pallid vortex]

Are we supposed to buy the pr6 an dr6 blueprints from medal shop?

[keen sable]

if you're not medal short

[pallid vortex]

Got it. Thank you

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

[white agate]

smh,smh ender will not like another emote i think

[pale niche]

Do 3 mil exp lv. 125 ships still contribute to lecture hall?

[weary gust]

yes

[dusty gulch]

I forget, do max XP ships still contribute to ship research from battles?

[white agate]

i think the only thing not contributing are exp books and dorm?

[vale spindle]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[barren tapir]

exercise n comms too

[sweet delta]

How is the washing machine drop rate on EX vs hard, per run?

[icy cave]

Does my profile update my highest pvp rank as long as I reached the specific rank once?

[main stag]

Guys what's the best world for DR/PR xp grind?

[forest palm]

12-1/12-4

[carmine heath]

where's the chart for xp/coin per oil spent on campaign?

[gleaming saddle]

Is Guam a W ship to build?

[soft raft]

it's in the pins somewhere

[soft raft]

she's very good yes
but as for if she's prio to raise, depends

namely what other URs you have and what state they're in

[gleaming saddle]

If you want to toss any fleet suggestions feel free to toss them

[stark quiver]

mlb bismarck zwei honestly
or like wait for feb ur

[soft raft]

good god all of those spread out limit breaks
Bismarck Zwei > Vanguard > Implacable > Guam >= Unzen > Shimakaze

But for now just MLB BisZwei and wait for the Feb UR

[sweet delta]

guam is a huge L ship for you to build

[gleaming saddle]

why is that?

[soft raft]

also if you want fleet help, post your dock in a thread, a single image wont help much with basically zero context for what you're trying to do

[late flame]

ngl gotta wonder where all that rainbow bulins went

[gleaming saddle]

yeah, I didn't realize the dif it made MLBing back in the day

[barren tapir]

what content is this for anyway

[gleaming saddle]

... idrk rn. I want to start establishing a full 4 fleet loadout for all armor types and mobbing

[sharp socket]

how can i make hwah jah not die in 12-4

[stark quiver]

do 12-1

[barren tapir]

just dont fight boss smh

[viscid swift]

retrofit her?

[sharp socket]

this is ooa mob

[stark quiver]

get some UR AA, and like not use seaplanes

[sharp socket]

retro'ed hwah jah also

[barren tapir]

wait no boss

[viscid swift]

I have no idea how you're failing then

[stark quiver]

yo
what gear are you running my guy

[barren tapir]

just do 12-1

[sharp socket]

she gets mvp too

[stark quiver]

also congrats cheeky

[sharp socket]

tigercat skyraider

[viscid swift]

why the skyraider

[late flame]

lol skyraider

[sharp socket]

just whatever was lying around

[stark quiver]

tenrai

[sweet delta]

certified boomer moment with more main fleet ships 120-ready than me

[sharp socket]

she is actually just mvping every fight

but dying on ooa last

[stark quiver]

that is, interesting

what AA are you running?

[viscid swift]

well what fleet was it?

[barren tapir]

bring tempesta with round shot

[viscid swift]

unironically a good option

[barren tapir]

no more ooa issue

[stark quiver]

is that how people level ships these days?

[viscid swift]

it's how I do these days

[eager mulch]

how do you do?

[barren tapir]

or repair ship dont those also give 1 ammo

[viscid swift]

but Hwa Jah was quite fragile, you probably just need to end the fight quicker/wave clear better

check that the stagger among the main fleet is good

[soft raft]

or use Unicorn

[sweet delta]

according to my empricial data, EX only drops 1 in 45 runs

[forest palm]

I don't remember struggling with Hwah Jah

[viscid swift]

Fu shun will be replaced by Vestal META once she's 125

[barren tapir]

my data for hard is 7 in 135

[sweet delta]

Are DDGs counted in your 237

[viscid swift]

nope, and I'm only counting to 120 for that

[stark quiver]

cheeky do you level on 12-4?

[viscid swift]

12-1

[forest palm]

I've always used 12-4 for all my needs

[heavy crag]

by any chance does anybody know what this is and how to obtain the tickets

[stark quiver]

my ships exploded in 1204, so sad

[heavy crag]

this has to be some sort of cinematic/asmr ?

[keen sable]

monthly login

[stark quiver]

asmr, you get 1 ticket every month

[viscid swift]

it's a short 5 minute asmr video

[stark quiver]

you also get a cool video, if youre into that

[forest palm]

I've run out of main fleet ships, so I just use Percy + AQL

[keen sable]

there's a sample...

[heavy crag]

alr understood

[barren tapir]

12-1 is what i do too, never found a reason to 12-4 tbh

[sharp socket]

mostly accurate i think

[viscid swift]

uhhhh

[stark quiver]

you have Ur AA

[amber frost]

You have enough meal tickets, buy 67 crystals.

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

why all the transitional gear still

[keen sable]

god that sanrui sucks

[sharp socket]

cause im lazy to swap good gear on them

[barren tapir]

marco bad ig

[sweet delta]

the situation over in Little Enterprise appears to be more dire than we thought

[stark quiver]

which is why hwah jah dies cel

[sharp socket]

the other times i farm 12-4 it works all the time

[stark quiver]

or just bad rng ngl

[edgy plover]

is fu Shan possible to get in the pool? Lowkey I might’ve scrapped her not realizing she has retrofit now

[sharp socket]

but now hwah jah is kinda flimsy i suppose

[stark quiver]

you, get her from minigame

[barren tapir]

tf does this mean

[sharp socket]

also that was wrong devon is 120 now after this run

[viscid swift]

I mean you don't need the absolute best but I'd at least expect Hwa Jah to have 2 +10 Catapults and Ise to be running 2 SR shells

[edgy plover]

yeah I scrapped her then 💀

[stark quiver]

so you got her and immedietly scrapped her

[viscid swift]

all the cruisers to have rudders, Saint Louis running an HE Gun, etc

[stark quiver]

and no she isnt in pool

[sharp socket]

oh wait shit ise has purple catas

[barren tapir]

wait to 2026 ig

[edgy plover]

I was wondering why there was a retrofit item at the end lmaooo

[stark quiver]

welp, wait a year

[edgy plover]

mb on the ping

[viscid swift]

yeah....

[glacial widget]

Hey does anyone have a link to the guide for project identity endings? I’m trying to google it but not finding anything

[barren tapir]

chat, this is why u never scrap a unique copy of any ship

now you see why im so obsessive over dock space

[edgy plover]

just learned that the hard way, found out I ship a scrapped a year ago is now in the core shop for 800

[stark quiver]

this also reminds me, gotta buy kashinos secret

[frank pulsar]

there should be a thread in this channel for tb and the siren, ask there

[forest palm]

kind of wanna bump dock space up to 1k

[viscid swift]

try to aim for that sort of standard at least

and this us why I have dupes usually

stuff that's reserved pretty much for the leveling fleet

[forest palm]

just amass a load of resources to spend as needed

[stark quiver]

where is the daily 2x oil refill

[sweet delta]

press the plus button on your oil bar

[sharp socket]

ok nevermind i was way off what i thought i had on them

[stark quiver]

still not that great ngl
just put best gear if farming

[barren tapir]

or do 12-1

[viscid swift]

that as well

You can run some pretty nutty builds that would make mebot weep

[barren tapir]

or unicorn babysit too if u want

ive done unicorn babysit about half the time and im still low on cogs

[forest palm]

skill issue

[sharp socket]

meh it has never failed me before my w12 farming fleets

[viscid swift]

well it won't often, W12 is just that easy but I prefer to ensure it never happens

[sharp socket]

i gave everyone slightly better stuff and devon is done so vg will be weaker for a bit as i send aurora in

should be liveable right

[viscid swift]

ehh, sure but why the tea torps

[sharp socket]

i dont pvp anymore so theyre from when i tried pvp

and no one else would use them so aurora

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

just give her the usual quad mags, in the grand scheme it's small but every bit helps after all

[sharp socket]

maybe i should make more gears for farming ships

[barren tapir]

improved quad

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend that yes

[sharp socket]

cause i have like 5 quad mags currently and theyre all on someone that sees use often

[barren tapir]

but yeah dupe gear makes life easier

i have 8

i should make more tbh

[bright tusk]

is monitors want FP AA gun because they have small FP or they still want hit AA gun? is mobbing BB the same want hit AA gun or FP AA gun better because mass producted ships has low eva?

[frank pulsar]

hit aa gun is general use, fp aa gun is rarely better (for bb)
for monitors idk cuz i thought nobody uses them

[forest palm]

standard loadout is gonna be STAAG + Yellow Shell + HSFCR

Twin 134 is if AA isn't an issue

[frank pulsar]

yellow shell gaming

isnt yellow shell worse than white shell

[forest palm]

have...you tried equipping a white shell on a BM...

cause BM cannot equip the standard shellings

[eager mulch]

smh he’s not a knower

[frank pulsar]

oh you were talking about bm
i thought you were talking about bb

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

taz has a new nom emote i see

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

erebus meta wosrt BM because she can't activate yellow shell skill

[slow fox]

what the FUCK is this

[viscid swift]

I tried an experiment to see how little eHP you needed to survive 12-1

[whole crypt]

12-1 mobbing can make it with very little

cruisers lv 110+ can probably survive on no durability aux

unfortunately I don't have that luxury because I'm leveling fodder DDs and doing boss fight with the fleet too

[leaden mountain]

best one to get? (i dont have any of them)

[eager mulch]

[vivid sonnet]

you think bayard scylla shimanto can clear chap 12-15? or swapping out for guam and/or laffey2 is better

[stark quiver]

Chapter 12 to 13 yea
14 and 15 will be a bit harder

[whole crypt]

I'm inclined to say Guam/Eldridge retrofit plus whatever

[sweet delta]

If you're still at chapter 12 then there's plenty of time before 15

[plain saffron]

does it always be negative after you bought it

[rain vine]

the purple tokens are positive on vouchers

[sharp socket]

ive never seen that be negative b4

[rain vine]

each purple token is 1 voucher
every 100 orange token is 1 voucher
so it should always be positive

[sharp socket]

not that

[rain vine]

action points should still be positive

[plain saffron]

-8000

[rain vine]

what, are you hoarding them and not using them?
dont know why youre emoting that

[sharp socket]

[whole crypt]

how about you getting the whole question wrong

[rain vine]

sorry the question is worded so poorly

[storm heron]

what vouchers?

[rain vine]

i thought it was referring to reset vouchers
apparently not

[storm heron]

yeah now I see too, probably just a lil bit tunnel vision

[whole crypt]

looks like it shows negative if you revisit the cat

[late flame]

need to spawn akashi first to see if i can replicate it

[plain saffron]

why is AP box called EN

[whole crypt]

energy I guess

EN moment

[steel lava]

What is the best way to get the items needed for a retrofit?

[sinful escarp]

x-1 of hard stage

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Hard_Mode

[soft raft]

Main way is grinding hard mode
X-1 for DD
X-2 for CA/CL
X-3 for BB/BC
X-4 for CV/CVL

[sinful escarp]

do higher worlds. we dont know the drop rate, but you get more cores so its more worth it

[barren tapir]

took me a while to see, tf is happening there

[stark quiver]

does 1555 coin income per run for 12-1 seem normal?

[barren tapir]

yes, if just clearing rewards

shud be 1700-1750 including map drops and ship yada yadas

[sleek spade]

when will Implac rerun?

[barren tapir]

chat if i have like 3k+ ap still when should i begin doing c3

[whole crypt]

Soon™️

[sleek spade]

I need Implac RIGHT NOW

[barren tapir]

use avp

[whole crypt]

time travel then

[stark quiver]

like now

[sleek spade]

avp too cope...

[barren tapir]

idk im not good at pacing myself XD

i actually didnt do much c1 this month according to my repair kits (2.5kish vs my usual 4-5k) but somehow im still big high on ap

[stark quiver]

yea just start now, and save enough for like new stronghold and whatnot

[whole crypt]

not sure what answer you were expecting, next rerun is already confirmed, timeline wise if we're lucky it'll be shortly after Feb UR

[barren tapir]

im guessing my low c1 is due to yk2 rerun

[sleek spade]

Feb has a UR? I thought new UR is every 3 months

[barren tapir]

my gem income also took a hit this month but that could just be poor rng

[soft raft]

New UR is every Feb/May/Sept/Dec

[barren tapir]

feb may sep dec there's a 4 month gap in summer

[soft raft]

Has been that way for the past three years

[sleek spade]

hmm I see

[whole crypt]

there's no way to divide it evenly because CN anniv and JP anniv
past years has always been Feb after the Dec one

[sleek spade]

I thought it's every end of Quarter

[whole crypt]

it's not per quarter, 2 of them are stuck on CN and JP anniv

[ornate scarab]

Is kazagumo good for 15-4 or will she not get returns

Saw the 15% cv boost

[sleek spade]

my mistake then. in that case should I save next months Bulin and wait for new UR or should I use them to MLB yk2?

[whole crypt]

what do you mean returns
Kazagumo isn't picked very often for campaign but it depends on the fleet

[soft raft]

She won't really have a place in W15 comps

There are more urgent things to deal with there than a handy +15% buff

[barren tapir]

kaza prolly can work but usually better options in campaign

[whole crypt]

I personally wouldn't really pick her for 15-4

[ornate scarab]

Sadge

[soft raft]

Is Yk2 your only non MLB UR?

[ornate scarab]

Back to the drawing boards

[sleek spade]

also Rumey

[soft raft]

/W15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[barren tapir]

rumey > yk2 imo

[whole crypt]

I mean we have sample fleets for ch15 not sure why you're trying to do

[sleek spade]

ppl told me to get yk2 cus it'll make a good anti light comp w kear...

[storm heron]

wait what you have 2.5k AP? that's like 1.5k more than me at least

[sleek spade]

tbf I dont have any anti light

[barren tapir]

if u have d30 kear then sure yk2 over rumey i think

[barren tapir]

who

[sleek spade]

ah then it was correct cus I do have d30 kear

[storm heron]

I wonder how much gold plates you're gonna get with all those APs damn

[barren tapir]

prolly not much. i can tell u my ap after i finish bullying this abyssal

[whole crypt]

unless you're ditching Kearsarge and going for a Soyuz comp then Yorktown II, but that also implies a d30 Nakhimov

[sleek spade]

I do have d30 nakh

[sweet delta]

i don't think halford and stig are getting fixed anytime soon

[bright tusk]

Is the 15 runs on raid only affect BP? Or all drops including the purple plates?

[storm heron]

like you're literally gonna catch up in like 5 months

[whole crypt]

personally I'd only pick to make one of Kearsarge/Yorktown II and Soyuz/Nakhimov

[soft raft]

/15runs

[odd root]

The first 15 runs you do each day give better rewards than normal. Once you hit 0/15, you can still fight, for the same number of contribution points, but the droprate of equipment blueprints is much lower. Your 15 runs reset each day, so you will get 15 more "drop-boosted" runs tomorrow. You can use challenge tickets to run "boosted" attempts when you run out of your daily amount.

[barren tapir]

currently

ive been clearing out all my hiddens n stuff too think i peaked at 4k+ ap this month before spending

[storm heron]

3.5k

[whole crypt]

sad

[barren tapir]

[civic crag]

what is event boss armor type

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

maybe stig got compensation but also got NDA

[barren tapir]

keep in mind i still have these and an upcoming stronghold yada yada

also idk why im barely 9k vouchers i even killed harby this month

[stark quiver]

im never gonna do c1 farming ever again
i tried it, and now im down 150 ap with 0 boxes left

[barren tapir]

[whole crypt]

I actually just use the hidden logger for my sub acc

[barren tapir]

also i figure vouchers resolves itself once i spend all my ap and i just forgot how it goes but iunno. voucher trend with c1 is funny

yeah i have hidden logger but its just so i dont need to recon, i wont strategic them bc the map layout can be fucked sometimes and hide a lot of loot behind a blue mob

[whole crypt]

it doesn't need to be hidden behind a blue map to lose out, hidden autos don't even do reds

[sweet delta]

i use hidden logger for my main account and just get 20 vouchers per month on my sub acc

[barren tapir]

oh that was just an example, ive had reds block too yeah...also one time the fkin portal itself

[whole crypt]

but anyway honestly I'm just a pathological hoarder for my main account, you're really not missing as much as you might think you are with auto

[barren tapir]

my friendo, i am also a hoarder

[whole crypt]

portal doesn't matter fleet doesn't port out if there's shit left to take

[storm heron]

I stopped sub accounting

[whole crypt]

unless you mean the portal is blocked, but you don't need to use the portal to leave

[barren tapir]

auto wont go thru portal to reach loot, gotta manually do it

[whole crypt]

I'm just slightly more annoyed by trap zones

[weary gust]

You mean you don't like setting a stronghold to auto and coming back 20 minutes later to find your fleet moved into a fog zone and got stuck 5 moves in?

[barren tapir]

happens to me way too often

[carmine heath]

is 11-1 a good map to farm xp if I cant access w12?

[storm heron]

yes

[carmine heath]

Poverty

[sharp comet]

11-1 is best xp

but dont do in the long run cause no cog chips

[ornate scarab]

Thank you

[alpine plover]

whats this about? Is it like permanent when u buy it? what does it come with?

[ornate scarab]

Yes and the asmr

[fickle hollow]

i want gear, how do i get it

[alpine plover]

how long is the recording usually?

[ornate scarab]

With a little l2d video thing

[alpine plover]

oh damn, AL making me wanna spend

[ornate scarab]

Uhh don’t remember I think like a couple maybe 3 or 4

[plain saffron]

it's not l2d, it's animation

[ornate scarab]

Oh I thought it was a l2d animation

[alpine plover]

HOURS?!

[fickle hollow]

what are these used for? i have a ton of them

[ornate scarab]

Noooooo minutes

[plain saffron]

like teens minute iirc

[alpine plover]

oh i thought hours cause i wouldve bought them all

[ornate scarab]

I don’t remember though I think I watched like one when they first came out then forgot about them

[keen sable]

use the catchup when agir is D30 through coins to convert to protocore. but perhaps it is too late for you?

[alpine plover]

wait when was this added???

[ornate scarab]

Like a year ago or something like that

[plain saffron]

nvm it's more like under 10m

[ornate scarab]

They do a bunch of limited ones that they haven’t rerun yet

[fickle hollow]

i used them yesterday

[alpine plover]

damn then i probably missed a lot of good ones

[ornate scarab]

They have had some good ones yeah

[alpine plover]

i mean my fav shipfus

[fickle hollow]

what are these used for?

[plain saffron]

it does looks like l2d ish i guess

[alpine plover]

ouuu thx

[keen sable]

do them for stuff

[obsidian ivy]

Do all 3 bosses in 15-4 drop Houston 2 or just the last one

[ornate scarab]

St. Louis was one, emdem shimanto

[alpine plover]

iirc either for hidden siren maps or a fortress

[plain saffron]

ouh since when we can freely move where we're watching

[ornate scarab]

New maybe

It will be over for me the day Agir gets one

[fickle hollow]

Does Shinano have one?

[ornate scarab]

Not yet

[fickle hollow]

[ornate scarab]

Which means you haven’t missed it

[fickle hollow]

[barren tapir]

[ornate scarab]

So that’s good at least

[storm heron]

what is this

[ornate scarab]

Because I don’t think they rerun them

[barren tapir]

janus asmr

[fickle hollow]

secrets

[ornate scarab]

Secrets asmr

[lethal cairn]

Does anyone here know a solution for games that are stuck on loading?

[barren tapir]

janus so cute

[ornate scarab]

Window out swipe up and relog

[fickle hollow]

Implacable secrets too lewd

[ornate scarab]

If that doesn’t work

[fickle hollow]

[lethal cairn]

Let me try

[storm heron]

is the "lady dressed in nun's clotes await a lost lamb" implacable?

[ornate scarab]

Ye

We only have two nuns I think, and vestel will probably never get a secrets

[storm heron]

to be fair they listed all the names but not the lady dressed in nun for some reason

[split lily]

Can someone help me with how I should position my fleet? Also whats more important, finding replacements for Fitz/Kasumi that are Sakura for bonuses or getting them to 120?

[sweet delta]

finding replacements for fritz, amagi, shimakaze, and kasumi meta because they're far from MLB

[barren tapir]

limitbreak your ships!

[storm heron]

oml

[split lily]

i dont have any more of those bulins 😦

[barren tapir]

5/6 nonn mlb 💀

[split lily]

I don't have that many ships though, idk if i have better replacements atm

[wind hazel]

show your dock

[split lily]

just sakura?

[storm heron]

well definitely 5 planes shinano, 3 planes amagi, 6 planes rumey, paper ijn destroyers with wet towel level damage can be replaced with something better

[wind hazel]

are you trying to grind sakura PR?

if not then no reason to lock yourself with sakura empire ships

[split lily]

not necessarily i just like shinano so i was building around her and assumed sakura had bonuses

[storm heron]

nope, faction buffs are weak if you just put bad, non-mlb ships

[split lily]

these are my UR

[storm heron]

disregard them

[wind hazel]

show your dock, not show your UR

[storm heron]

what about the rest of your dock

[split lily]

yeah i don't have much yet, i played for like a month a few months ago and got back into it in decemberish

[storm heron]

well yeah... you're gonna need total makeover it seems

[split lily]

is it even worth showing elites?

[ornate scarab]

Do you have unicorn

[split lily]

yeah at 100

[ornate scarab]

Limit broken?

[split lily]

no, i think i only leveled her up for the noob mission

[ornate scarab]

She’s the best healer in the game (in be4 well aktually)

When retrofit

But still worth early game as is

[storm heron]

no she's like THE healer

[ornate scarab]

Yeah but before retro not as much

[storm heron]

I mean like there's no undersell to unicorn

[gentle gale]

Should i get a 3rd copy of hindy gun? Or save the core for future use?

[stark quiver]

what else do you have left in shop

[ornate scarab]

If you need it

[gentle gale]

I have 29 spare copies available to buy for plygun but it wont be enough

[storm heron]

I haven't seen a situation where you would actually use 3 hindy guns

[ornate scarab]

Plymouth gun is really good

Maybe saving for that if it’s still available

[storm heron]

3 plygun, now that's different story

[ornate scarab]

Never enough Plymouth

[rapid grail]

never enough plymouth guns for everyone

[ornate scarab]

That and tenrais

So much armor break

[storm heron]

[ornate scarab]

It’s so sad that the proto core shop is 50 rainbow gear print limited, I’d be stacking that up so hard rn

[storm heron]

:UniqueNameDoubt:

[split lily]

sorry i was just looking at my ships and comparing it to that community tier

[ornate scarab]

Don’t do this to me

Rainbow bombers

I need my rainbow bombers, that heavy armor needs to be penned at all costs

[split lily]

if i just replaced fritz/amagi with unicorn would that be good enough for now until i get better ships?

[storm heron]

I mean to be fair if you don't have bismarck zwei you would probably need more than 2 hinden guns and more than 3 tenrais

[ornate scarab]

Replace Amagi before fritz as she is a limit behind

I’m also thinking like, opsi

4 fleets is a lot to arm

[storm heron]

not good enough, you are so behind in UR bulins, all of your UR CVs in the current state can be beaten by a gold enterprise

[ornate scarab]

What are you using them for now

It depends on what you are doing if you are in the early to mid chapters it should be enough if you are looking at the hard mode event stages probably not

[split lily]

yeah i'm mostly looking to push through the stages and move to hard

[ornate scarab]

The D level event stages probably not

[split lily]

i'm only at 9-2

[ornate scarab]

What gear are on them

[storm heron]

what? why bothering about gear, their ships are like the elephant in the room

[ornate scarab]

Just wondering

[split lily]

i don't really have anything good, besides an AD-1 skyraider +9 from the last event

[storm heron]

can you make a thread and send your full dock in there?

[ornate scarab]

We can walk and chew gum there could well be multiple problems

[storm heron]

we help new players by making them personalized thread so people who wants to contribute to the discussion can help you there

[ornate scarab]

Saggyswaggy fleet comp

[split lily]

thanks i'll add to it

[ornate scarab]

Sometimes I forget how hard it was to level up ships before getting to 125

[barren tapir]

all their URs can be beaten by unicorn probably

[ornate scarab]

Unicorn OP

[storm heron]

unicorn solos all of those yea

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm did the gearlab changed? Kinda missed like 1 month because of College?

[stark quiver]

not yet

[spring bolt]

CN rioted about it, devs promised update will arrive at Feb 20th

[plain saffron]

at least now we get confirmation gearlab update is twice per year at fixed month

[spring bolt]

riot is good

[nocturne glade]

just got the gold plates, can I stop farming the event now?

[plain saffron]

are koln helicopter just a normal aux that sole purpose is to trigger koln's skill?

or does it actually do something other than that

[whole crypt]

probably nothing besides stats and activating skill, gear itself has no skill or dmg/cd listed

[plain saffron]

thanks

[storm heron]

yeah seems like so according to aldb

[plain saffron]

saved 500 core

[whole crypt]

which unironically means it's worse than just equipping any other ASW gear

besides sonars I guess

[nocturne glade]

I'm having trouble on world 12 because my vanguard dies, should I look into two fleets now?

I see, ty!

[whole crypt]

it's still possible to one fleet but it gets a bit steep if not enough levels or poor gear

if you have ship options for a second fleet and can gear that fleet then sure give it a shot, assuming it's the no ammo that's killing you

[nocturne glade]

I feel like if I didnt have the no ammo debuff then I couldve dpsed before my vanguard died, but I could also try levelling a bit

[whole crypt]

give it a shot if you can make that second fleet, it's about time to start anyway at that point

[eternal moth]

Can confirm, chapter 12 is the first time I felt I really needed a second fleet on my alt. Although my gear's still pretty poor

[proven mist]

Is the current event good for farming washing machines and ship exp even after the first 15 runs? (Have only 1 washing machine rn)
Or should I grind war archives instead for gear?

[eternal moth]

After the first 15 your chances of BP drops quite a bit

[proven mist]

Ohh...

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't grind WA either, though; it's not worth it. You'll get plenty of BP from research

[proven mist]

So... 15 hard 15 normal 15 easy better than all hard..?

[proven mist]

Ohhkkkk thanks

[wooden umbra]

Hey guys, if ship has no AA gun but good AA stats like Emden, do they actually provide that anti-air to fleet, or no?

[hybrid spoke]

Emden neither has an AA gun slot nor does she have a good AA stat

[wooden umbra]

she has base 322 AA which is kinda above average for cruisers?

[eternal moth]

No, it's really not

[plain saffron]

no, just AVI dmg reduction for herself

[wooden umbra]

I see, thanks~

[eternal moth]

I have like, 40 CL with a higher AA than her

[bright tusk]

how much is the maximum adaptability needed in OPS?

[rose cosmos]

Do toolkit and bubbly stack?

[hybrid spoke]

They should yes

[noble osprey]

Guys what do we do with these?

[spring bolt]

322 aa emden means lv125 and 200 aff, which i would not recommend

[eternal moth]

Get the invitation in Events

[noble osprey]

Oh ok, does getting more than 1k matter?

[sharp token]

do we still have source for this?

i only have one decent cl gun

[eternal moth]

Not at the moment.

[rose cosmos]

I guess it’s only a plus get yuudachi both the bubbly and toolkit then

[sharp token]

main gun for sandy: CL or DD gun?

[eternal moth]

DD any time you can

[keen sable]

Hard to say just from looking. Sometimes they have ghost guns that actively hurt your aa

[silent quail]

Is there have a way to change commander’s name in Navi Idproject?

[hybrid spoke]

I remember Ghost gun only for ships that also have an AA gun slot but no AA gun equipped right or if it's stated somewhere else like skill or the shimanto gun

[plain saffron]

iirc no unless you do a new run

[keen sable]

Something like Chao ho actually has a ghost gun. Which is why the aug is so celebrated because it gets rid of the original pos.

[plain saffron]

i wish they make the naming consistent though. like name on top shows your gametag but in dialogue it uses name you gave

[rose cosmos]

Do agir prefer cb or ca gun?

[keen sable]

Are you coping vs light?

[plain saffron]

does the HE CA gun deal more dmg than HE CB gun

[keen sable]

but she won't die at least

[eternal moth]

Just read her first skill

[plain saffron]

then is CA gun ever a good option for agir

when

[keen sable]

Drake is used on light metas

[plain saffron]

so HE CA deal more dmg than HE CB gun on agir?

[keen sable]

Drake isn't he...

[plain saffron]

ouh

i forgot HE CA gun is all shit that normal does a better job

[keen sable]

If you're using agir for damage... she's probably in there because you don't want to die otherwise you'd use a true dps like Drake herself. Using he on agir is counterproductive

[hybrid spoke]

^

Hindenburg Double +13 drake gun recommended

[plain saffron]

so the answer to this is CB except for that 1 situation?

[peak moat]

Any other good eagle union slow/stuns other than northhampton 2?

[rose cosmos]

I mean realistically there are two CB options for her now though, since others are event locked

[shell willow]

eldridge with retro

[hybrid spoke]

Personally I never put a CA gun on her before, never really had an issue on my side so far

[rose cosmos]

Any chance we getting that rainbow gun rerun in the future?

[hybrid spoke]

Yep, Guam rerun event

[rose cosmos]

So a few years away then

[hybrid spoke]

However it will still take some time until it reruns

[rose cosmos]

So I guess this is the only option for now then

[spark ridge]

What kinda fleet should be used with admiral cat?

[wind hazel]

soyuz, implacable, other CVs, voro/tashkent if you're not using soyuz or freeze, lots of variation

[spark ridge]

Hmmm yeah I don’t have soyuz or implac lol

I don’t have much actually, guess I’ll just throw in random cvs once she’s devd which will take literally forever. Maybe by then implac will rerun

[wind hazel]

not better than quad mag

[fickle hollow]

Is Miracle a good talent?

On cat

[frank pulsar]

iirc no

afaik flame is the only useful rainbow talent
the rest depends on what cat it is

[fickle hollow]

I have options for +50 health on main and vangaurd I should choose the vanguard one right

[frank pulsar]

hp talent isn't good
but yes hp on vanguard would be better

[fickle hollow]

The purple sakura empire cat

[frank pulsar]

bishamaru?

[fickle hollow]

Yes

[frank pulsar]

thats a cv cat
go for talents like flame, ace, chief

[somber quest]

Do DDGs want fast reload DD guns or are we looking for DPS

[crimson glacier]

you want dps

[frank pulsar]

idk abt fu shun, but the other 3 want dps guns

[somber quest]

Allll righty

[fickle hollow]

Does the Ace talent give EVa?

[frank pulsar]

defensive talents arent good for cats iirc

[fickle hollow]

I have these

[frank pulsar]

it is what it is
cats are late game investment, just level whatever cats with decent talents for now

[fickle hollow]

This is my other cat Takemaru

[frank pulsar]

this is example of decent-good cv cat

i neglect my cats so i dont have any that are the absolute best, but this should give you an idea of how yr cats should look like
for bb cats itll be stuff like soulful + chief + flame, for sub cat itll be alpha + loading ace(?), etc

[fickle hollow]

[silent quail]

I see tks

[frank pulsar]

oh and try to avoid faction talents, in my case sakura is decent cuz i use ijn cv for most bossing content

[fickle hollow]

these ones should be good right

Is Saiun Kai better or barracuda on Shinano against Taihou meta

[frank pulsar]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
cat guide

[frank pulsar]

saiun, unless you have no slow/stop

[fickle hollow]

Thank u

[nimble knoll]

Retro Helena Or Retro Nelson? Who's Better?

[storm heron]

nelson definitely, the only value you should retro helena is for the timing purpose, which is locked until you have 3 golden radars

[atomic abyss]

Nelson by far
Helena retro is low priority

[calm summit]

Can anyone help on no brain full auto clear on chapter 15? I got pretty much all gears and ships.

[midnight finch]

How are my fleets?

[nimble knoll]

Is Seafeang Good?

[atomic abyss]

/w15 refer to this then

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[midnight finch]

Note: I don't have good enough Vanguard ships of Royal Navy

[storm heron]

bad cause you only need 2 fleets.

[atomic abyss]

It's fine as an interim gear

[atomic abyss]

Meh because faction fleets are bad and you only need 2 fleets

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[midnight finch]

I'm working on 4 for OpSi

[atomic abyss]

You would focus on 3 then

[storm heron]

4's a bad idea, you should always focus all your stronger ships

[atomic abyss]

And rather then by breaking up by factions
You break up by mob and 2 boss fleets, one with CVs and one with BBs
To maximise your buffs

[storm heron]

5 star rumey, 3 star uvh, 4 star z52, not full star = bad
faction fleet = weak buff compared to specific loadout buff and good comp

[midnight finch]

Oh.. That's legit.. Never thought of it that way

[atomic abyss]

Yeah faction fleets are meh because faction buffers are often bad ships

And it's not worth using a bad ship for faction buffs

[midnight finch]

Should I refer to the tier list then to reorganize the fleets?

[storm heron]

if you are talking about the ectl tier list, that is a general progression tier list and doesn't give any tips about synergy and fleetbuilding

[midnight finch]

Yeah.. That's the one I use mostly.. Any good websites for fleet building?

[atomic abyss]

Not particularly
It might be better to create a thread in this channel and have someone provide recommendations

[storm heron]

fleet building should be based on the thing you want to do, in this case operation siren. There are 2 types of fleet in operation siren, mob fleet and boss fleet(s)

anyways you can make a thread and post your dock there

[midnight finch]

Well.. I don't want to sound like an old man but.. How do I do it exactly? 😅

I don't use discord much so

[blissful hamlet]

sandy do more damage than plymouth?

[bright tusk]

what ships good with FuMO 25?

[blissful hamlet]

all vanguard damage dealer like plymouth or hinden

[bright tusk]

is the Type 98 Delayed Firing Device not worth to be equipped?

[blissful hamlet]

what's the best gun for sandy?

[shell willow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_138.6mm_(Mle_1934)

[blissful hamlet]

is this already accounting the ghost gun dps and her bug?

[shell willow]

this is the best damage dd gun in general, idk if sandy bug changes anything

[atomic abyss]

The bug makes the mog gun the better choice

Otherwise 100 Kai would be better

[blissful hamlet]

they haven't fix the bug

should I put autoloader on sandy? no she's not dying

[storm heron]

OpSi Fleetbuilding

[teal cradle]

Hello can I ask what to do with SR dupes?

I'm new so I don't know much sorry

[wind hazel]

limit break the main one

[teal cradle]

I understand thank you for your help

also is this where I can ask how to fix my formation?

[bright tusk]

should i raise z52 or rumey first?

[tulip zenith]

What would be a good main fleet for farming 12-4 combat xp?

[ember roost]

Is there a list of purple gears to keep? Cleaning out my depot

[primal silo]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
There's safe to scrap

[ember roost]

Thank you

[primal silo]

[soft dagger]

depends on what you currently have

[soft dagger]

for cdc? pick 3 of said faction. make sure they are ~75 level

[fleet condor]

[tulip zenith]

No I need vanguard xp so I’m wondering about the best main fleet to use

My vanguard is yat sen Chang chun an Shan

I tried with uni indep soyuz and it was good except yat sen and chang chun died on boss

It might just be a level diff idk

[soft dagger]

you can beat the boss with boss fleet or gearing up/level up

[storm heron]

same, only 60 bars
Tho I think maybe that is cause one of my hvar still +12 and the skyraider +10, goose and friends definitely used two skyraiders

[bright tusk]

both already MLB, and their level 122 and 123 respectively, planning to use the exp books to immediately lv125 but I only have enough to lv125 one of them
is the exp books should only used to level up low level ships?

[soft dagger]

idk but i dont reccomend using exp book if the level is that high, unless they already max affinity oathed or not and you need them fast

[solid quail]

Can anyone share the guide for newbies who just started out the game?

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[solid quail]

Thanks

[fair mountain]

What bug are you talking about?

[atomic abyss]

Simply put
Too high rof guns prevents Sandy from shooting out the full extent of her augment's barrage

[fair mountain]

Ok, did not know that one

[atomic abyss]

I must confess that's a very simplified explanation and there are a lot more quirks than just that

[warm flax]

When does event end

[atomic abyss]

It also involves enemy targeting and gun volley time

[unborn saffron]

Hello, I'm about to start a new account because of this new interesting feature, how and when am I able to get to it ?

https://youtu.be/i2mxGOrIKd8?si=Rr1coEFNvUsfsoxv

[late flame]

#1204845559790440488

[wind hazel]

when you are Commander Lv30

[unborn saffron]

Fantastic, i assume it will be introduced to me yes ?

[barren barn]

What gears for Bismarck zwei?

[forest palm]

that depends

[barren barn]

It s to do normal arbi

[soft wind]

uhhh
what?

[late flame]

try restart game

[soft wind]

got it

[wind hazel]

i think so, probably

if it doesn't, you can find it from Main Menu>HQ>Project Identity

[unborn saffron]

Many thanks

[late flame]

buy lv30 pack to unlock instantly

[barren barn]

What gears for Bismarck zwei to do opsi

[soft wind]

update: it got worse

[soft wind]

i am now softlocked 😂

[barren barn]

The one in top?

[wind hazel]

top for medium or heavy enemies
bottom for light enemies

[barren barn]

For boss i use top then ty

[worldly pewter]

did u try repairing the game ?

[soft wind]

i have not

[worldly pewter]

try and come back again

[coral elk]

Boss can have light armor, boss can have heavy armor, also medium armor...

Unless you're going after easy enough bosses, you should change depending on the boss...

[sharp socket]

if u cant 4strike with hsfcr just use double shell, bzwei is fast enough to not need hsfcr to fit fully in helena scan

[coral elk]

I know that sub Dev 30 pr/dr ships aren't really good, but how bad is Dev20 Nakhimov in comparison to someone like Chkalov(FS5)/Enterprise/others?

[wind hazel]

very bad

[coral elk]

😭

Not much better in Dev25 either?

[wind hazel]

no

[turbid marsh]

no tech, lack planes. damage wise should be like maybe tad bit lower at dev25 compared to chk enty

[coral elk]

Hnnkh, so at Dev25 I could start actually developing her and using her in a low impact OpSi fleet

[forest palm]

Wouldn't even bother outside of leveling

[coral elk]

Anyway, it will take a while and don't want to piss people with posting suboptimal stuff

[gentle copper]

I didn't participate before 0%. now I don't have 2nd SY-A1

just noticing today I don't have it in depot

[turbid marsh]

i mean i dont ever take less than dev30 to things, but i guess whatever works works

[gentle copper]

man

[upbeat wagon]

where do you get the first

[eternal basalt]

Last year's CNY

[upbeat wagon]

ah

[gentle copper]

spring festive fiasco, feb2023

[nimble knoll]

Whose skill should I level up?

[atomic abyss]

all ships you use shd have max level skill
...except portland

[nimble knoll]

Ig I'll start with Uni's First (or Laffey's Cuz her skill is level 9)

[atomic abyss]

uni, vittorio, nelson

especially the latter 2

since the chance of their barrage skill occurring is dependent on skill level

[nimble knoll]

Well I'm not using Nelson, But Maybe when I need a 2nd fleet I'll start to use her, But I'm low on Gold Skill Books and I'm leveling Yk2's skills

[atomic abyss]

use purples then?

[nimble knoll]

Is it more efficient to use Purples or Golds?

[atomic abyss]

golds are more time efficient, purples are more exp efficient

[nimble knoll]

Should I start retrofitting Nelson?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[proven fable]

Guys are there any other torpedo buffers?

[frank pulsar]

jintsuu and jintsuu meta ig

[cobalt rapids]

the other noshiro, jiintsu(meta), tanikaze, vanguard, kii

[proven fable]

There's another noshiro?

[frank pulsar]

i think amagi cv buffs ijn torps for vanguards as well

[cobalt rapids]

noshiro muse which has a large buff for torps if u time her

[proven fable]

I literally just got this game back lmao, my friend told me I missed like 20 ur events 😭

Also, what about broken torpedo ships

[frank pulsar]

torp vanguard is a mostly meme comp now

[cobalt rapids]

unzen

[proven fable]

I made mine unkillable lol

Just need perseus

[wind hazel]

[frank pulsar]

unzen and jintsuu meta are the important ones that you missed
ibuki from pr1 with aug is quite strong too

[proven fable]

I got ibuki actually 👍

[frank pulsar]

replace ayanami then

[dense magnet]

Is it okey to put two steam catapults on cv? Sorry if stupid question

[cobalt rapids]

its usually the default aux u put on em

[eager mulch]

it is good to put two steam catapults on cv

[novel solstice]

It's not just OK, it's the recommended loadout for carriers most of the time.

[frank pulsar]

double catapult is default on cv unless need timing adjustment aux like beacon or manjuu

[proven fable]

Does ibuki have better torpedos than Aya?

[tiny kettle]

Is alvitr viable? In a fleet with unicorn and brunhilde for grinding xp

[cobalt rapids]

has better dmg than aya

[proven fable]

Torpedo?

[frank pulsar]

alvitr is one of those generic decent bb iirc

[proven fable]

Damnn ok

[tiny kettle]

Hmm good enough for me, just need her to get friedrich

[proven fable]

I'll probably add her in then when I get her dev level higher

[proven fable]

She's goated

[tiny kettle]

Yee

[wet badge]

Is bayard gun good

[keen sable]

When you put it that way it doesn't sound viable because you have unicorn. But anyways it's not too big a deal to just use unicorn.

[tiny kettle]

My goal is to grind xp for friedrich, need unicorn for heal and need 2 iron blood backlines for xp

[keen sable]

That's the point. Viable would use three IB and not rely on unicorn. But it's easier to just use unicorn and then even the most unviable ships can be used. It will just take you more oil and time

[tiny kettle]

Oh fair enough. Can I make a 3ib fleet from these ships that will survive 11-1?

Gear and levels aren't a problem

[keen sable]

12-1 sure. 11...

[tiny kettle]

12-1 is easier?

[keen sable]

Much

[tiny kettle]

I can do that as well, I just heard 11-1 is better for grinding

Which ships would you recommend?

[keen sable]

Brun gz ps

Or like al gz ps and make brun boss even better

[tiny kettle]

Alright, thank you

[keen sable]

Zeppy is fine also if you don't want to spend bulins on ps

[tiny kettle]

Hmm not sure. Will having ib in boss fleet make a big change xp wise?

[keen sable]

Yes?

10% for free?

[tiny kettle]

Ah alright then

[tiny kettle]

Nah I have a decent amount

Thanks for help

[sharp void]

anyone know if mainz L2D skin is bugged for voice lines?

[cobalt rapids]

no voicelines yet

[sharp void]

is that said anywhere by chance?

[cobalt rapids]

CV update section in patch notes

[sharp void]

ty

[keen sable]

More like absence of anything said

[sharp void]

idk which patch notes but all i see is this

[cobalt rapids]

yes and all the skins have the CV announced but not for mainz which means she doesn't get her lines this patch

[coral elk]

11-1 still the best for xp grinding?

[cobalt rapids]

w12+

[coral elk]

Per oil I meant

[cobalt rapids]

if that is the only factor u care about then yes

[coral elk]

Well, I wouldn't care when am quite a lot over the oils soft cap, but I'm below, so gotta start actually min-maxing oil usage

[cobalt rapids]

w12 has better coin and drop cog chips and is easier

[coral elk]

After all, when Soviet event with leaderboard drops, I will go all in, so I ain't touching my storaged oil

[eager mulch]

11-1 no cogs = bad

amagi-chan = good

[coral elk]

I have almost 40k cogs and I'm not going to go cog awaken most ships I have anytime soon

Though, ehh, probably could use coins as well

In that case it was 12-1?

[soft raft]

12-1/12-4

[eager mulch]

12-4

[woven star]

29 oil difference between 11-4 and 12-4

If you want save oil don't forget to disable submarines

[coral elk]

My subs are underleveled still

I barely touched them for several years, lmao

And I quite regret that since I was receiving garbo rewards from the weekly thingie

[keen sable]

11-1 is a waste of morale

[coral elk]

Anyway, considering the reactions, does it mean that xp ratio spreadsheet that is pinned is outdated?

[eager mulch]

the better xp-oil ratio just loses out on too much to be good imo

[peak moat]

Just grind 12-4

[soft raft]

more like there's other factors at play that make W12 better overall than W11

Cuz that chart is purely focused on oil/XP efficency

[keen sable]

It's correct for its context but it's context is meaningless

[peak moat]

Also you will need many cogs for fleet tech

So grind 12-4

[keen sable]

What if I told you 0lb on 6-4 is more oil efficient?

[nimble knoll]

Should I spend the cubes?

[peak moat]

No

You have no prints. Just save for the upcoming UR event

[coral elk]

Why would they have prints for PR1 ship???

They've been coinable since forever

[peak moat]

Yeah, still not worth on new accnt

[coral elk]

Well, if they get any of PR1 ships they could do the catchup later to get prints to be turned into proto core for gear

Not like PR1 ships are used much in the times of UR ships being everywhere

[nimble knoll]

I ain't got enough tech, so I'm doing Saint Louis, Cuz People Said To Get Her

[peak moat]

What are you trying to get

[keen sable]

No cube, no ship, no gear.

[nimble knoll]

?

[keen sable]

You can't get gear if you don't have a ship

[nimble knoll]

Anything to help me really

[coral elk]

If you're below something like 200-300 cubes then you probably could wait before spending to not accidentally shoot yourself in the foot by being unable to pity UR in case you are unlucky

[peak moat]

I don’t think research bureau is going to help you. Just save your cubes for a UR event.

[nimble knoll]

So I should spend da Cubes?

[coral elk]

Though I'm not sure 5 cubes would do much of a difference(forgor if she needed more cubes later)

[peak moat]

That will be 10 times more helpful than getting one step done in a RB ship

[nimble knoll]

Alright then

[ivory pawn]

I’m of the opinion to hold the cubes until you’ve finished most of the other steps, so you won’t be like me who used the cubes then moved on to a different ship.

[nimble knoll]

[peak moat]

Just save till 400 cubes and spend any more you get on stuff like this as a new player

400 guarantees pity on UR ship events

[keen sable]

Suggesting to not use eu vanguard is very sus

[wind hazel]

i mean you don't even have most of them done, why waste the cube lol

[ivory pawn]

Though once you do, I’m in favor of using the cubes. You’ll get to start using the free daily prints on her, and you’ll be able to massively progress the Newcomer rewards for a lot of protocore.

[wind hazel]

just dont look at your shipyard until you're at w11 or w12

[peak moat]

That’s crazy

[wind hazel]

no, that's normal

[peak moat]

I was rocking a solid lineup when I got to w9

[wind hazel]

you're also not xeno, experience may differ

as you can see, he could only submit 1 out of the 8 requirement

[peak moat]

Oh I’m stupid, I thought dockyard in my head

Yeah I agree. You have way too many things to spend gold on early and shouldn’t be able to afford coining rb ships

[nimble knoll]

Is 3* maps worth the time, or is completing them first to go to the next world much better?

[peak moat]

Bare minimum I would recommend stating is w9

[peak moat]

You need to three star maps to unlock hardmode which is important. You also get coobs and gems for completing maps.

[nimble knoll]

So when I unlock a chapter I should 3* it before going to the next one?

[ivory pawn]

3* gives gems and hard mode access, it’s very worth the time eventually. But if you have the ships to push story, no harm in coming back and doing it later if you don’t need the gems yet.

[keen sable]

If you need gems do it. It will cost less to do it later with 1:1

[peak moat]

No, I would focus on hard pushing to get world 9. Just three star them as you go if you want, but I would make it a priority to climb world rather than full clear.

[nimble knoll]

[peak moat]

You will probably need to grind XP in order to clear some worlds so I would just clear maps when you need to grind xp

[mellow cape]

Should I go for hinden for future fate

[near cargo]

How to equip Futuraka?

[eternal moth]

Who?

You mean Furutaka?

[near cargo]

Yes sorry

[eternal moth]

Should be normal CA

[soft raft]

I mean all DRs have their own sepreate 150 catchup so doesnt matter

[mellow cape]

Oh I never knew

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment Read through this if you need help determing what gear is good and what isnt

[keen sable]

Catchup doesn't cost you anything?

[mellow cape]

I thought it was one per season for some reason

[keen sable]

It is for pr

[mellow cape]

I know it doesn't cost anything lol, just thought it was one pick for a PR season

[keen sable]

And pr is not one pick. It's a pool of 300. You can split it however you want

[mellow cape]

Nicee

[raven canyon]

is kazagumo a good option for an all IJN fleet?

[eternal moth]

Yes, but you don't generally want a single faction fleet

[rain vine]

kazagumo is a carrier buffer, regardless of faction

[peak moat]

Yes

[fleet condor]

このチームは大丈夫か？

[eager mulch]

does not look good

[eternal moth]

This is an English-only server.

[raven canyon]

woo i understood what they said

[eternal moth]

If you need help in Japanese I know there's another server for that, but I don't know the link

[fleet condor]

[atomic abyss]

https://discord.gg/FVgfdaN

you can try there for JP help

[fleet condor]

how is 「does not look good」

[fleet condor]

うあ
わかりました

[tawdry drum]

Is this a good investment?

[eternal moth]

Junkers are good, yes.

Keep in mind you'll pretty much only use them on OpSi and META bosses, though, not campaign

[tawdry drum]

I might need something for opsi

The planes I have is not doing dmg I want

[mellow cape]

Yeah I haven't done my catch-ups tbh, first tim

[eternal moth]

What's your current fleet?

[fleet condor]

@eager mulch

[tawdry drum]

Not sure if it's good

[eternal moth]

I can see why you're having problems. AKaga really aren't good anymore, and Ark isn't the greatest. Who else do you have for carriers, and do you have Kazagumo?

[tawdry drum]

I have kazagumo but it's low level

[agile furnace]

What does the 5000 oil siren data logger fully do?

[eternal moth]

Shinano/Amagi/Ark should be much better than what you're currently running.

[keen sable]

Reveals all explorable zones and gives you partial rewards

[agile furnace]

Partial rewards?

[eternal moth]

If you have them in another fleet, YT2/Enty/Ark would be another great combo

[keen sable]

Somewhat let's you auto all of ops

[tawdry drum]

I well try that thx

[agile furnace]

There no cons about buying it right?

[keen sable]

Yes partial, you still need to do the map for good rewards

[eternal moth]

Either way, Junkers are still good, but changing the fleet will cause you to do more damage than changing the planes will

[keen sable]

5000 oil is a pretty big con

[mellow cape]

How much potential rewards are you missing out on auto vs non auto?

[keen sable]

1.72%

Could be even more if you auto yourself past akashi

[mellow cape]

Mmmm

That's not that much

How is it a con?

[hushed sorrel]

wasnt it like that the map still needed to be cleared to be able to buy everything in the port?

[ivory pawn]

5000 oil for something that you can do for 0 oil is a pretty big con.

[keen sable]

It only gives you the adapts, ap, and minor coins

It's like a paycheck advance

[ivory pawn]

Spending the oil lets you strategic search the maps to get that condition, instead of manually running them.

[eternal moth]

Being able to auto every zone right away makes it worth it to me.

[agile furnace]

So in short, it provides a head start and makes it so you can move wherever you want?

[keen sable]

Auto not the smartest

[eternal moth]

It also clears the fog of war in every zone

[keen sable]

Especially if you tell it to be even dumber

[ivory pawn]

The biggest advantage is being able to strategic search, instead of having to enter each zone and enable recon if you want to auto.

[mellow cape]

I mean Im casual lol. 5000 oil isn't a big handicap when the weekly oil from the shop exists gives me enough reason to use it. I barely use my oil besides farming 12-4

[ivory pawn]

If you struggle with using all your oil, I'd say it's a pretty great investment.

[keen sable]

It's always been your game. The pros and cons are what they are

[mellow cape]

I'm not playing this game 24/7

[hybrid spoke]

Investing those 5k is super worth it for casual players

[hushed sorrel]

reported xP (thats a joke)

[mellow cape]

"Auto is not the smartest", I don't really feel a difference in progress tbh from the time I no life this game and played this game casually

[white agate]

don't you miss akashi only in special zones due to too many ships confusing auto?

i have never seen auto miss akashi in c zones

[ivory pawn]

Or if you tell the auto to skip Akashi.

[keen sable]

You can tell auto to skip akashi. Some might not consider stopping for akashi on c1 to be true auto for example

[white agate]

that is not the auto fault tho, more like user fault

[keen sable]

Everything is always the users fault

[white agate]

i think i only missed akashi once or twice before understanding all fractured zones are to do 1 by one

[keen sable]

Well 5000 doesn't even help with that

[white agate]

since if akashi is circundared by ships you are gonna skip her

[keen sable]

But I suppose it reduces your recon load so you're more likely to have recon available when to want to use it

It's never been a problem for me

You can't afk ops 24x7 AND spend your oil

[hybrid spoke]

If someone plays casual it means it's not optimal which means those 5k are almost always a good investment. Being able to click Auto while sleeping or doing something else is very comfortable

[mellow cape]

I actually just strat search until my meta analyze is up and take a break

Do the strat search and like 3-4 12-4 runs/whatever I need

Then sleep lol

[white agate]

idk, i feel like more impactful the fact my night commissions starts at 3am

[agile furnace]

Does strategic search go after only the basic zones or also go after special ones like strongholds, the yellow chest ones and the red boss ones?

[ivory pawn]

You choose between Basic (Explorable/Secured), and yellow chest (Hidden).

[eternal moth]

Basic only. Hidden search does hidden zones, but not abyssals or strongholds

[keen sable]

Basic and hidden but you need to buy ANOTHER logger for hidden

[eternal moth]

Secured does either random zones or a single one over and over.

[hybrid spoke]

[keen sable]

Logger to strat c5 is dumb

Strat c5 is free...

[agile furnace]

When doing strategic search, it won’t redo the same section right?

[keen sable]

It can if you tell it to

[agile furnace]

But it won’t when you tell it to go all zones?

[ivory pawn]

If we're talking Secured zones, it might.

If we're talking the initial clear, it won't.

[agile furnace]

Okay

[sweet delta]

Dear Hamaal, I believe that Shinano/Amagi/Ark is not much better than Shinano/Amagi/Ark

[uncut wren]

Hi, i reached 25k points for Helena meta Is It worth to continue? Or should i go for someone else?

[stark quiver]

could switch after

rest yore just looking at getting more meta mats and cogs

[ivory pawn]

It's worth it to continue eventually, but I've been just working on getting everyone to 25k first.

[uncut wren]

Ok for which meta should i go for next ? Which has more priority?

[wooden umbra]

Hmmm
120 all
San Diego R
Helena R
Belfast
2 illustrious types and unicorn R
+10 gold
Still not enough 13-3 to bust that barrage of bombers reliably

Am i missing something?

[sweet delta]

Your fleet looks quite confused, it seems like a mob fleet with no tank,but illustrious compensates for that, but illustrious damage sucks, and Helena shouldn't be on mob fleet, and why do you need to bust the enemy planes reliably?

[sweet delta]

They're all for tech. Pick the easy ones to save oil. Only Jintsuu meta when she gets added in some months , is more useful than just tech

[wooden umbra]

Well this comp at least cleans like 5-6 mob nodes before going down~

[sweet delta]

6 mobs spawns the boss already right?

Post your dock in a new thread, and someone can help redo your fleets and gear

[soft raft]

The hell is Belfast doing there

[uncut wren]

Helena meta isnt good?

[sweet delta]

She's mid in terms of gold ships

Well, good, but new event ships are alMost always better

[wooden umbra]

Belfast is sitting there being AA stat stick

[uncut wren]

Ill go for waifu then

[wooden umbra]

cuz cheshire is not even 4 stars yet

[night totem]

What is better on sushi against medium /heavy , daisen gun or izumo gun?

[sweet delta]

[soft raft]

Dawg she ain't doing shit at all

[sweet delta]

Daisen gun for heavy, and usually daisen gun for medium

[wooden umbra]

Errr, do you need like full UR 125 frontal comp to clean 13-3 normal?

[night totem]

Aight, thx

[sweet delta]

No, the correct level 115 SR fleet is enough

[soft raft]

No
But that scuffed of a fleet certainly won't help things

Just post your dock in a thread

[night totem]

Iirc I used double /triple cv/cvl mob fleet with 1 or 2 aa carry in my mob fleet... Well i have no idea if that's how you're supposed to do it but it worked for me

[sweet delta]

That matches what they're doing already

[night totem]

oh

Well... Eum maybe it's the ships used? Idk, I'm a madman, I used both unicorn and perseus in my mob fleet

[wooden umbra]

Okay nvm i just steamroll boss with BB/BC fleet lol
musashi vanguard fdg still does the job there, i guess they simply kill boss faster than they die

[turbid marsh]

tbh i dont even consider helena in main campaign...

[wooden umbra]

In retro she has good AA stats~
I meaaan, ofc i would put like Scylla instead, but i haven't played since 2022*

[turbid marsh]

i wouldn't say she is a aa stat stick. but yes, a lot of things have changed since 2022

[coral elk]

If someone didn't bother going further than W12, did they?

[turbid marsh]

i thought he was going to go for w13, 13-3

[coral elk]

That was a question about in general than for them specifically

[night totem]

Is there any pr ships worth doing above pr4? I only went for Drs so far

[turbid marsh]

shimanto

[worldly pewter]

the game is massively powercrept that someone with 130d account could clear 14-4 auto S so basically throw anything and it will clear w13

[night totem]

What does she do

[sweet delta]

The only ones worth are the ones you'll soon have enough blueprints to dev 30

[night totem]

I see... Well the most pr prints I have is 187 on harbin... I dev30d Plymouth got 1 ur gun then just recently swapped to pr6 for kearsarge

[wooden umbra]

Power creep liiiike? Is it easy to acquire awesome SR-UR AA ships for clearing 13-14 stages?
Or now you have faster ways to lvlup?

[night totem]

Was wondering if there are any pr ships worth investing in

[coral elk]

As Soviet enjoyer Chkalov

[turbid marsh]

plenty of heals, great for mob. good asw. aa carry. tanky enough for 3rd spot.

[worldly pewter]

yeah basically the new ships are very strong alongside the usual ones from the perma banner and research

[night totem]

I see... Hmm I'm just wondering if id use her over any of the options I currently have

[tidal python]

Has anyone found a reliable Auto gear setup to get Fritz Rumey to send her planes out when Bismarck Zwei fires? It seems like Rumey is always super behind and it takes like 4-5 main gun salvos for her to end up timing a plane flight at the same time as Bismarck's salvo to take advantage of the improved slow while they are being pulled.

Been fucking with the Beacon and fire control modules and no combination seems to work.

[turbid marsh]

well if you already got past 15-4, then no, she is just... another tech ship. but if you have not touch w15 yet, she is one of my personal top 4 vanguard ships made for 15-4