gameplay-help

[eternal moth]

It's not in core data

[soft raft]

tho there's like 1 event UR gear in there which is the Z Flag

[eternal moth]

Yeah, core data isn't very likely at this point

That was supposed to be interpreted as being added to either core data or gear lab, not necessarily both

[stone sluice]

We should get shimakaze event rainbow torps first

[atomic abyss]

are those not in gear lab

[nova crane]

who shoudl i use the invitation on?

it only applies to the new year selection list right

[atomic abyss]

there's a pinned message that has a recommendation on who to use it on

[nova crane]

oh ok thanks

[soft raft]

Not yet

[final heart]

should I commit to MLB Z52 with this line up or should I save my UR bullins for upcoming UR unit(s)?

[eternal moth]

I assume you either have Fritz MLB or didn't get her?

[atomic abyss]

fritz is in left img

[final heart]

she's next to Z52 and yes, she's MLB

[atomic abyss]

save

[eternal moth]

Oh, it cut the screenshot, ok.

[final heart]

so should I cope with Z11 then?
I don't really have a lot of good DDs

[atomic abyss]

assuming you mean z23
yes?

[eternal moth]

Z52 even at LB1 has been doing A LOT of work for my alt, but I'd wait until you get enough resources for 4 bulins before making the decision

[atomic abyss]

you dont need many DDs

[final heart]

I was asking for my 2nd fleet since Z52 isn't getting used

Z11 is also a DD

[atomic abyss]

z11 is dogshit

[final heart]

I couldn't grind enough for her free extra copy, I'd have to use a bullin now if I want to LB1 her

[wind hazel]

dont do that

[atomic abyss]

did you not get any other frontliners in the yk2 event?

[final heart]

I only got northampton and another formidable

[atomic abyss]

medal shop SR?

[haughty dust]

Any thoughts of which of these main fleet ships to use for the following PR/DR 7 ship

[final heart]

DD and BB are for purchase rn

[atomic abyss]

and how many medals do you have?

[final heart]

enough (190)

[atomic abyss]

musashi hiryuu souryuu

[atomic abyss]

grab hood or tirpitz from BB/C
kazagumo from DD

[final heart]

I don't build maryland anymore then?

[atomic abyss]

yep

tirpitz if you need more ironblood tech to unlock friederich de grosse

[eager mulch]

when is operation convergence rerun

[final heart]

I still haven't gotten roon done yet

[viscid swift]

next maintinence after this upcoming one

[eager mulch]

so 2 maints

[viscid swift]

so should be right after this current event ends

[atomic abyss]

still, it's progress
also raise fu shun once you get her from the ongoing mini event

since her exclusive retrofit material shd be obtainable starting tmr

[final heart]

aye aye capt

[atomic abyss]

so that gives you 2 much better DDs
kaza is really good in mid/late game, and fu shun retro is really good, just like her sisters

[stark quiver]

Are the cn patch notes out?

[atomic abyss]

JP ones are out so i'd assume so

blucher rerun

[stark quiver]

Where can I find it?

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.jp/news/667

[stark quiver]

Thanks

[boreal wagon]

i find it more interesting that them doing all the monthly stuff already means we wont have a lab update in jan

(it could still happen in feb tho)

[eager mulch]

operation convergence should be heavy based right

[atomic abyss]

yep

the sole BC

[wind hazel]

the banned dd

[forest palm]

have they abandoned this event again?

[boreal wagon]

no, its been confirmed to be the next rerun

[crimson glacier]

16 is banned?

[eager mulch]

nice, more amagi-chans

[viscid swift]

nope

[haughty dust]

No Taihou?

[atomic abyss]

hiryuu and souryuu have good tech and are closer to lv 120
taihou is better than them but you have no use for taihou outside tech either

since you already have amagi, shinano and hakuryuu

[forest palm]

ya just read the JP Patch Notes

[next tulip]

should I prioritize kearsarge or hindenburg

[forest palm]

if you have Yorktown II, Kearsarge is more useful to you

[atomic abyss]

neither if you havent finished pr4, plymouth and nakhimov

most likely kears if it's strictly those 2 tho

[next tulip]

thanks

[next tulip]

yeah I was just wondering, working on nakhimov rn

[elfin hollow]

Is there a need to go more than the 15 a day for the event?

[soft raft]

not really

[ivory pawn]

Only if you want the last DR prints reward. Do 1 or 2 more runs total to get the last gold plate rewards.

[keen sable]

no reason not to use tickets either

[ivory pawn]

It is oil that can be used elsewhere.

[keen sable]

It is oil that can be used there.

[deep storm]

Why is Z16 banned?

Or is it just her art in this server?

[boreal wagon]

her art in this server

[deep storm]

... There's a lot of official art that gets banned here

Is there still a #salt here, or is it all #trophy-room

[eternal moth]

Trophy-room

[tulip zenith]

Who is the best dps for 12-4 here?

[mellow cape]

Vanguard or backline?

[turbid marsh]

probably anshan or sandykai+ue (if you count shooting down planes)

ehh, you have plenty of 120/125s, think sandy is probably a good investment

[dawn ledge]

finally i made it

[soft raft]

#trophy-room is that eay

[haughty dust]

so I’ve heard Eldridge is good to use in PVP once retrofitted, but does she have any other uses? I finally retrofitted her, but I’m not sure where all she can be used in.

[stark quiver]

Yea, free +10 hedgehog, vanguard survivability

[keen sable]

facetank chien

[stark quiver]

And 60% slow

[haughty dust]

@keen sable then what else is she good for?

[keen sable]

she's good at a lot. great if you're afraid of dying

[haughty dust]

well, once she gets high enough level is she good in operation siren is there somewhere I can use her in there and in general farming?

This is her current status by the way

[keen sable]

she's good in operation siren and she can babysit terrible ships if that's what you really want to do.

[haughty dust]

Well, let me add you in the last thread I made for my current operation siren situation. If you have any thoughts, I only have three fleets set up at the moment.

[agile furnace]

would it be better to put my gold prints on a flapjack or wyvern?

[crimson glacier]

both are really bad

[agile furnace]

oh

[crimson glacier]

gold plates should be saved for stuff that deals with bosses

[wild hemlock]

Who did you guys use for Iron Blood PR/DR vanguard research? (Roon, Agir, Mainz, Hindenburg, etc)
I don't really like or use any IB vanguard ships; as I feel like I have no-one notable, I tend to just limit break and dorm them until they hit max level
I breezed through main fleet XP for Monarch, FDG, Odin, etc., but I always get stuck on the vanguard
whos, idk... "worth it?"

[robust onyx]

You have a few note worthy characters

[worldly pewter]

use the fleet tech tracker to see which are the ones that have good tech or give more tech at 120

[robust onyx]

They are asking for the grind

To bad Endem and Otto aren't MLB

[worldly pewter]

well it depends on what the person has too but imo the only ship worth considering in that dock is friedrich at least

[robust onyx]

Agreed there

[worldly pewter]

i personally did it with madge deutsch and admiral graf

[ivory pawn]

Iirc Duisburg has +2 FP, good choice for one of the slots.

[forest palm]

you can throw a dart anywhere, and it'd still be useful

[wild hemlock]

ill probably just end up not doing them again and research some other faction, happens every time lol

[worldly pewter]

what is the reason that makes u do another faction ?

do u have anchorage ?

[robust onyx]

Likely doesn't like IB

[wild hemlock]

no good ib vanguard ships

[worldly pewter]

friedrich carl is the best SR tank afaik or one of the top

[wild hemlock]

yep

[robust onyx]

They have plenty of good IB Vanguard characters

[ivory pawn]

Just level stuff that gives good tech then.

[wild hemlock]

which are?

[robust onyx]

Friedrich, Heinrich, Otto, Endem, Z52

Agir

Atleast unlock Agir at some point

[wild hemlock]

shes essentially done, 2.4m vanguard xp, paused her bc of that

[worldly pewter]

@cobalt rapids anchorage is a fake SR UR in disguise

[worldly pewter]

is this ur first time doing vanguard combat data mission ?

oh nvm u said u did anchorage

DR take 600k more than an PR so it might be heavier

[barren barn]

Help

[robust onyx]

Confirm

[barren barn]

[quartz breach]

Is retrofit Hwah Jah any good now or still bleh?

[barren barn]

I can't get more

For this month?

[wild hemlock]

I've PR/DR'd most research, just havent done anyone thats IB vanguard

[shell willow]

thats why u press confirm and move on

[robust onyx]

Bleh, unless used in support CV fleet

[sweet delta]

Top 3 support CV in chapter 15, average gold CV otherwise

[worldly pewter]

u have done napoli ?

[keen sable]

sounds like that trend is going to continue

let me ask. who did you use for anchorage?

[wild hemlock]

that was a while ago, i think it was sandy laffey 2 and guam

[viscid swift]

why do you insist on using good ships to grind XP when in W12 on safe you can use just about anything

Like so

[wild hemlock]

i dont want to waste all that xp on someone ill never use again

[viscid swift]

you do realize that a, grinding using maxed ships is an even bigger waste of XP and B, grinding tech is a thing

[white agate]

i mean... may as well 125 useful ships

[wild hemlock]

yup, and i have my niche of 125s lol, basically all I ever use

[viscid swift]

after a certain point you've run out of ships you're going to run put of ships that will actually be useful, at which point what does leveling an good ships that you're never going to use do

as opposed to leveling up shit ships that give good tech that will actively improve the performance of the ships you do end up using

not to mention by actively refusing to grind XP at all, you're preventing yourself from unlocking good ships that you would probably end up using like Agir, esepcially now that she's coinable

[white agate]

wait, he is not gringing pr/dr exp?

[viscid swift]

he's refusing to do for IB because "no good ib vanguard ships"

which is just hog wash

[carmine heath]

Should I farm steam catas or just wait for research?

[viscid swift]

just get them from tech boxes and research, not worth farming for

[carmine heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697475157739962509/1245054406056087623/20211124_205043.gif

[harsh yacht]

My boss fleet is fritz rumey, richelieu, shinano, noshiro, helena, ibuki. Should I buy kawakaze from the merit shop to replace ibuki?

i dont know who is better ;-;

[cobalt rapids]

ibuki is much better than kawa

[harsh yacht]

thank youuuu <3

[desert tapir]

I'm setting up a small team for the occasional 10-4 run to grab Jintsuu.

I'm thinking of Klaudia Hyuuga, Emden and Stephen Potter. This seems about right to me for grind the map and earning some affection but what's does everyone else think

[keen sable]

neither seem very good for auto

[keen sable]

either you 1:1 or 3:3. not some inefficient in between

and imo just 3:3 it

also just use your chapter 12 fleet. it should be full of ships that need to earn some affection

[left cedar]

Klaudia is only worth it if u dont wanna use Unicorn (like me), she dosnt contribute with tech neither stats or fac
Hyuuga and Emden are gud tech stats to farm, but not usefull aside of it

[night totem]

Which shipgirl would be better to get after Plymouth, hinden or kearsarge?

[sweet delta]

The one who's close to dev 30 in blueprint count

[left cedar]

Neko

probally Kea, Hindy is niched mostly to Op.Si Mobbing or few META/Bosses cuz gimmicks

[night totem]

Alright then, ty

[lapis socket]

Do we know when bache comes back.

[white agate]

wut??

[ivory pawn]

Bache is in Light pool.

[white agate]

if you meant blutcher, then the path after the next one

[toxic hull]

How is the event hardmode stage for exp farming vs like 12-4?

[eternal basalt]

Bad

[barren tapir]

iirc similar exp/oil

[eternal basalt]

And that one is probably 13th rather than 6th

[turbid marsh]

similar exp/oil as w9 i believe

[carmine heath]

For clearing campaign are you meant to use 1:1?

[sweet delta]

Afaik nobody has 1:1 beaten lethal chapter 15

[turbid marsh]

if you can sure, but when i do my clears, i usually just push through with my err 80 oil fleet so that i dont worry about anything

[carmine heath]

Pre chapter 12

[barren tapir]

math

using: flag doesnt mvp, S rank, high morale, not counting 12-1 boss for exp fleet, average 2* nodes.

event hard = 4568 exp for 25 oil = 182.74 exp/oil

12-1 = 53460 exp for 296 oil = 180.61 exp/oil

if you run boss with exp fleet then 12-1 beats event hard, otherwise they're equal

[carmine heath]

Nevermind actually z52 is mogging everyone

[barren tapir]

tho 12-1 is overall better due to coins and cog chips, but the context was just exp

[turbid marsh]

better than i thought hmm

[dreamy blade]

Does xp change with reward sorties or just everything else

[glass quest]

should I craft a rainbow DD Main Gun (I only have one rainbow DD Main Gun so far which is the Twin 138.6mm) or should I go for my third Triple 406mm MK7?

[bleak nymph]

Shimakaze or Kronshtadt first? I play mostly auto

[barren tapir]

also ch9 exp is

9-1 = 29700 for 182 oil = 163.19 (again without boss)

with boss should be on par ofc. i personally dont bother running boss bc cogs is a bigger issue anyway

[barren tapir]

exp doesn't change as far as i know, only loot does

[weary gust]

Neither of those are high priority.

[sweet delta]

Neither

[turbid marsh]

ah, thats why i remembered hard being some what close to w9, included boss and flag mvp for this one

[glass quest]

What gun is good to use on Z52

[turbid marsh]

113 from gear or the blue gun 76

[sweet delta]

Neither of those is medium priority either, in terms of URs and bulins

[glass quest]

what about a rainbow dd gun

[bleak nymph]

I guess I should get Kron for tech points towards nakhimov though no? Nakhi is high priority?

[glass quest]

actually no that doesn't seem to be that useful

[barren tapir]

rainbow dd gun better used on someone else yes

[turbid marsh]

you want the fastest gun possible, because her kit is relied on it

[sweet delta]

Do you have close to 513 nakhimov blueprints?

[bleak nymph]

Nope, fair point

[toxic hull]

Huh! Thanks for doing the math!

I just wanted to level up some ships that are only around 100 right now and doing the event hard guarantees clears without any deaths. I'm floded with chips and while yeah gold is nice Im not in desperate need currently so might just do that till everyones around 105 and I can just leave it to auto 12

[runic lagoon]

One question, I heard that you are supposed to get gold aircraft blueprints from this shop, how do you get both them and the currency?

[dreamy blade]

When opsi resets at the beginning of the month you get the currency based on what's in your opsi inventory at the end

[forest palm]

you can see what gets converted by looking at your inventory, and hitting the gray button that says, "details"

[dreamy blade]

Gold plates aren't from that shop but from the port shops

when you go to a blue port and hit port>resupply

[white agate]

how shit is the 283mm bb gun?

[tender girder]

erm. should i limit break cassim / downes?

[carmine heath]

For the tech/collection sure, for general use absolutely not

[forest palm]

why bother with it? unless you're talking about the CB ver which is fine, you'd be better off using an MK6

[lapis socket]

Am I choosing my wife?

[ivory pawn]

Just your starter DD.

You'll get all 3 eventually.

[soft raft]

it doesnt really matter
all 3 of them are easily obtainable

[rare wyvern]

Is there a way to change the mission before it is finished ?

[keen sable]

laffey or z23 but stick to sandy, wash, amagi, or lil e for server

[white agate]

no, i was talking about the bb version that paired with HPFCR and autoloader seem to be a good strat to get my bb flagship get MVP in 12.4 exp farm

[keen sable]

if your guild continually does that to you and itself...

[white agate]

i have never seen that mission, the only mission i see are kill 400 enemies

[keen sable]

anyone have avrora and lexington medal shop?

[rare wyvern]

My friend took it although we always did killing 180 enemies, so we technically might be stuck for a while...

[keen sable]

till next week yes

[forest palm]

at that point why not just use a 457 with HSFCR

[white agate]

battles lasts 20 s only

[forest palm]

I don't see what you're trying to do is the thing, you're not gonna get MVP if the gun is just weaker but fires faster, more shots per fight isn't always going to net MVP

[storm heron]

400 enemies

is my guild good?

[white agate]

yep, i have never seen any other mission beside that one

[keen sable]

sounds fake

[turbid marsh]

400? i thoguht theres only 300

brb, lemme kill my vice guild lead

[white agate]

well, the important think is that the mission both me and fybre see are only those you need to kill

[rare wyvern]

Can only do so much with 2 to 3 people active lol

[mellow cape]

Wait why do people get different missions

[keen sable]

because their guild leaders choose poorly

[mellow cape]

What's the best?

[keen sable]

kill 300 enemies

[mellow cape]

Okay my guild isn't scuffed

[keen sable]

slacker who didn't tap accept after finishing the first cycle

[mellow cape]

no call outs smh

[sweet delta]

You're in a good guild

[stark quiver]

You guys do guild missions

[white agate]

i never run out of guild coins due to 100/100 + donations every week

[tender girder]

as a new player, if i get the PR choice pack, which one should i get?

[white agate]

what can you get? what pr series does it stops?

[tender girder]

4

[wispy creek]

how exactly does the "advice" button work in the fleet select? the fleets never seem quite optimal but decent enough?

[soft raft]

Cheshire from PR3
Augustus or Anchorage from RP4
PR1 and PR2 are besides maybe Izumo but it's whatever

[viscid swift]

I think it chooses based on fleet power

[indigo dirge]

How do I make her do damage in the event? None of her torps lock on and just fly down the side

[wispy creek]

might need to put her in the middle? her torps might not be magnetizing based on her position and boss position

[white agate]

got steel with torpedo ace,ace lookout,alphawolf(why does it have the same symbol )
how bad is ace lookout compared to chief of staff,can i still take it ?

[indigo dirge]

But then I'd have the same issue with Da Vinci, no?

They have the same gear

[wispy creek]

from just doing a quick test with bidders, yeah seems so. let me try another torp. im not super informed on subs TBH

so i think they may be too far back to launch torpedos? i just swapped subs and really the only one firing was middle girl, the others seemed to be out of range or something. this boss might just not play nice with subs? ill let someone smarter chime in

[carmine heath]

Should I farm for jintsuu? I dont actually have a boss fleet yet but apparently dd/torp vanguard is good for one

[lapis socket]

This my first multi is it good

[eternal moth]

No point

[wispy creek]

if you like her, yes. shes nothing special

[eternal moth]

Torpmeme is called that for a reason

[carmine heath]

[eternal moth]

For pure torp stat, like for hardmode requirements, DDs give more stats, and Jintsuu herself is outdone by a lot of newer ships

Feel free to farm for her if you want, but I'd only do it if you can 1:1 the stage. She's from 8-4 right?

[soft raft]

Painfully meh
Besides Chapayev who is average before unique aug tho not worth it early game

Give this a read too btw https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[carmine heath]

10-4

I can 1:1 it uni just nearly dies in the process

[soft raft]

have you retrofitted her yet?

[carmine heath]

Yeah

[dim summit]

is there a counter to Chien's grab attack on custom difficulty?

[wispy creek]

does 10-4 not have an oil cap?

[soft raft]

nope
just put a tanky ship in the off-tank slot like Anchorage or some shit

[eternal moth]

It does, so you can farm with a full fleet if you want.

[keen sable]

it does

[soft raft]

Oil cap only activates after you 100% clear a stage

[wispy creek]

yeah, i was gunna say if youre farming it, go with 3:3 to speed up cleasrs

[dim summit]

fuck aight ty

[barren tapir]

this, or a buffer ship that buffs when dead like sirius

[eternal moth]

I killed it with a CV fleet, so I put Sirius there, as it doesn't matter if she dies.

[barren tapir]

same

well dead ship is -4% score per ship but to just get 10k its easy enough

[eternal moth]

I was only going for 8k anyways

[sweet delta]

[storm heron]

try 12k, it's not that hard

[eternal moth]

ZZAAPPP

[barren tapir]

yeah spending like an hour cooking and manualling for a t5 box wasnt worth, dont be like me

[keen sable]

hulk smash with ops bb sub eldridge

[barren tapir]

i have none of those

[dim summit]

it was indeed Sirius getting grabbed and zapped to low hp

[sweet delta]

I think the zap only does 1 damage per hit

[dim summit]

whatever it was, she was returning near death🤷‍♂️

[carmine heath]

Do you have any examples?

[barren tapir]

yea cos she gets hit by every boss attack there

[keen sable]

that's not true at all. jintsuu doesn't even buff the best torper in the game.

[sharp socket]

for torp statstick try ayanami

generally IJN DDs have alot of torp

[carmine heath]

I have 6 devils whispering on my shoulder and all 4 are saying different things

[storm heron]

but ayanami doesn't give tech

[sharp socket]

and ayanami is not that hard to obtain

[keen sable]

you came to a help channel. try the help you got in it.

[barren tapir]

6 and 4...wuh

[sharp socket]

one flaw (or benefit?) of gph is that people are not of one mind

[storm heron]

you can simply just have your dock somewhere else and maybe we vote on what's dd the best?

[keen sable]

why are you voting for dd?

[barren tapir]

i have a hot take: farm yuudachi cos she has good torp and good tech. /s

[keen sable]

the question is jintsuu dd for bossing

and the answer is no, jintsuu lol

[barren tapir]

good tech is true btw, 1 fp 1 trp XD

[white agate]

would be good, can she be farmed low cost tho?

[keen sable]

if you can farm jintsuu you MIGHT be able to farm poi /s

[barren tapir]

i farmed her low cost yea but its not a serious suggestion xd

[sharp socket]

me when new player can dont care about tech at all

[white agate]

i know, but still her retro is a ur dd free iirc, unlike shimimikaze
wait special core f

[storm heron]

farming poi is a good recommendation until you spend 10k oil and she still does not drop

[barren tapir]

not free, costs 0.5 bulin

[soft raft]

"Free"
2k Spec core and like 40k gold go brrr

[carmine heath]

poi?

[barren tapir]

10k oil isnt exactly a lot, thats like 2 days

[keen sable]

i haven't seen a single response saying yes jinstuu is the best thing ever for bossing and you should farm her

[viscid swift]

Yuudachi, Kancolle refference

[barren tapir]

i also had a like <100 oil per run comp but i forgot the exact cost

[wary skiff]

does gascones ability mean shes better used with manual play than auto?

[soft raft]

Yuudachi
Poi is the nicknae the Kancolle fandom gave her (iirc due to a vocal tic)

[carmine heath]

Wait, I've read these references before

[keen sable]

she's great on auto

[pallid robin]

what comp is that?

[white agate]

farm jinjutsuu for pvp poverty option

[atomic abyss]

No actually

Quite the opposite
The mechanic makes her the best on auto

[storm heron]

poi is kancolle?

[soft raft]

No lol

[wary skiff]

am i misunderstanding it like "these shots count as if they are manual" or something?

[barren tapir]

0lb erebus + 3 0lb common dds for mob, 1:1 mlb boss

[soft raft]

it just buffs the damage bonus for manually aiming
which is pretty

[storm heron]

I thought poi is a made up name from ectl

[pallid robin]

my erubus is maxed fck!

[viscid swift]

hahaha no

[sharp socket]

point of interest be like

[atomic abyss]

So when BBs fire, they always aim their first shot
The other 2 are auto always
For Gascogne, she aims both shots

[white agate]

manual bb shots have usually 20% more damage iirc, so if her ability says her shoots on auto are considered as manual its good

[wary skiff]

oooh

[barren tapir]

i mean u dont need to go that efficient, a standard 1:1 is fine

[wary skiff]

ty

[keen sable]

she has two skills. independent mounts and +20% manual bonus

again she's great irrespective of tiny manual bonus.

[sharp socket]

if 2 independent mounts does that also mean double the time stop just curious cause i never used her

[wary skiff]

got it sweet

[keen sable]

for comparison jb's is +40%

[keen sable]

yes gascogne is very accurate

[wary skiff]

i just got jersey today and it made me think which id rather boost up first

[sharp socket]

accurate but slow alright

[barren tapir]

yes shes slow as fuck. but very high geo accuracy

[keen sable]

even with 2 mounts she'll hit like a whiffing three mount bb

[keen sable]

do you have the bulins for new jersey?

[wary skiff]

only one

[keen sable]

and if you did should you be spending them on new jersey...

[wary skiff]

i maxed out shinano a few weeks ago but hardly use her

[white agate]

i don't think using bulin on perma is a good idea?

[keen sable]

you should save it for different non permanent ship

[viscid swift]

that sounds like a you problem..

[sharp socket]

only for shinano is a good idea

[keen sable]

if you have 50 you can do whatever

[sharp socket]

else not so much unless you desperately need someone there maxed

[wary skiff]

jersey not good? i cant stand shinanos voice so i stopped using her lol

[storm heron]

in b4 15 new UR suddenly released at the same time

[keen sable]

at this point you should only use mlb ships. therefore a 1lb new jersey accomplishes nothing because you still won't use her

[sharp socket]

you can put shinano in boss, shes like a standard versatile UR CV

[wary skiff]

there were a few event ones i want like musashi / sovetsky soyuz / alsace but idk when event usualy rerun

[keen sable]

let's say you do it anyway though. what will happen if iowa comes out in 4 weeks? (just an example but a ur is coming) are you going to continue your committent to nj and skip iowa? or regret feeding nj?

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

Musashi already reran

[sharp socket]

unique's ways of convincing people are... unique

[wary skiff]

im too early to really regret those kind of decisions imo, im not sure enough which characters to save for just yet

[viscid swift]

Soyuz and Alsace are both more than a year off still from rerunning

[wary skiff]

oh damn

[storm heron]

closest we get is bz or new UR for BBs yeah

[wary skiff]

bz?

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei

[wary skiff]

oh cool a lot of my fleet is iron blood

[viscid swift]

you don't really, being diligent in playing you'll get enough to get every gacha UR and eventually sweep every banner

[barren tapir]

yeah after a few months of active play it's unlikely youll ever miss a ship again unless you dont care abt said ship

<- over 800 cube now, started 4 month ago

[wary skiff]

ya ive been worrying about cubes but ima hold till next banner since i just got nj

[soft raft]

hopefully that was with building up perament pity slowly, not haphazardly splurging your cubes on special/heavy

If it's the latter, please never do that again

[wary skiff]

i only did a handful of heavy when i was a few days in and pulled 2 shinano in ~15ish cubes, it got too expensive so i spammed light only after, ive probably wasted all my resources like 12k oil on maps 3/4 to farm levels lol

[viscid swift]

don't tell me you actually went hard on this nothing banner...

[wary skiff]

i was hoping to just pull random SR's to fill out a second fleet

[soft raft]

you aint getting shit off of light pool lmfao

[viscid swift]

well that was a mistake

[wary skiff]

and got some of the units i wanted from SN lol

[keen sable]

i don't think they need to worry too much. poor people who just started don't have a 125 odin...

[soft raft]

also are you even at at least W9 yet
if you arent, perish the thought of a 2nd fleet

[carmine heath]

To be fair going hard this event gave me sandy so it wasnt a complete waste of time

-# just a waste of 80 cubes

[wary skiff]

i stopped at 11-1

[dusty gulch]

Someone got a link to Research Lab stats that includes B missions?

[wary skiff]

i got a sandy off it too

[wary skiff]

i went into a gacha expecting to spend some money

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

yeah that was the wrong mind set for AL

[soft raft]

if you really are to spend money on this game, it'd be for the skins

the gem to cube ratio is horribly inefficent

[white agate]

depends, ship can be gold or purple and have no 200/200

[barren tapir]

dock first then skins/rings

[barren tapir]

yes but it's rare so on average

[viscid swift]

you would have to be very unlucky to get to that point

[barren tapir]

unlikely, not impossible

[storm heron]

spent 100 cubes, 2/4

[barren tapir]

probability is 1.76%

[sharp socket]

shouldve seen what people spend money on before doing so yourself

[barren tapir]

and that small chance is what you save your cube stash for, naturally. since most events youll clear much sooner

[keen sable]

as generous as the game is, it still is a gatcha especially for collectors you just do what you can.

[barren tapir]

dock

[white agate]

yep and 300 pulls won't improve it much since it starts flattening, it's hard but sometimes you gotta let the ship go and wait for her rerun pariently

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

what. every pull is 2%

[sweet delta]

Still waiting for imas rerun

[barren tapir]

more trials just makes it more and more unlikely youll not get the ship on avg

[robust onyx]

Lexington shop is DD and SS

[wary skiff]

is there a way to get jintsu meta rn or should i focus on 10-4 for regular jintsu?

[keen sable]

yikes, thanks

[sweet delta]

no and probably no

[barren tapir]

dd good now, kaza exist

[keen sable]

true, old habits

[soft raft]

she's the next one in line to be added to dossier
also no, dont do that

[barren tapir]

well for non-new players*

[white agate]

i know but 0.23% is still close to 1.76% it won't go to 0 fast

[barren tapir]

personally very hype for whenever my next dd rotation is

[sweet delta]

Good for new players too because new players will soon become non new players

[barren tapir]

0.23% is like 8x less likely than 1.76%

[white agate]

its not 0

meanwhile with ur 200/200 is 0

[viscid swift]

well why do you even care at that point...

[barren tapir]

not the point

[sweet delta]

What is 1.76%

[viscid swift]

like I said it's extremely unlikely you'll hit that point in the first place

[white agate]

0.98^200

[barren tapir]

chance to miss a gold in 200

its very rare anyway and if it happens to you often that's a skill issue smh

[white agate]

yep, just telling that if it ever happens i am ready to accept it and wait for the rerun than empting all my cubes

[oak sage]

my only URs rn are fritz at mlb, Z52 and yorktown 2. Which UR between yk2 and Z52 should I mlb first?

[sweet delta]

Yeah I never done that. Instead I got no purple in 200+

[carmine heath]

z52

[barren tapir]

rerun is 2+ yrs you might not even play then, if i rlly want a ship i go full

[storm heron]

it's crazy that the chance of my ranger one shotting algerie meta randomly is the same chance that I ran out of cubes to pull purple

[oak sage]

aight thx

also wait rerun of what

[keen sable]

might have made some sense when reruns had new ships

[barren tapir]

i was prepared to dump 700 into hamm2 but very glad i got her super early

[viscid swift]

Operation Convergence

[soft raft]

aka Blucher event
aka the one time EN got a SP event for their Anniv

[oak sage]

oh

[keen sable]

oh blucher gun

[barren tapir]

even got 3 of her so she likes me

[storm heron]

also what's gonna happen after operation convergence

[eager mulch]

blucher rerun is nice but im waiting for Blucher in wows

[oak sage]

oh wait yk2 is eagle union so she can actually synergize with kear right? Or did I read kear's stuff wrong lol

[storm heron]

smells like feb UR, got it

[oak sage]

still gonna get MLB Z52 first but I was just wondering

[barren tapir]

basically yes

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, Graf Zeppelin dropped from that event

[soft raft]

oh you meant new event not rerun
Yeah highly likely to be Feb UR

[viscid swift]

it would have to be pretty much

[keen sable]

PSA: If you haven't collected your hvars and stuff yet, don't forget to do it

[storm heron]

wait how to collect more hvars?

u mean shop right

[white agate]

from the shop?

[keen sable]

and milestone

[tender girder]

If i get izumo's augment to +10, then the additional 30% chance to barrage is already added right? or do i need to level up her defense skill too?

[viscid swift]

Yes, note how that part isn't highlighted in yellow

Though you still want to level it

[keen sable]

A 70% izumo no matter how you got there is a sad izumo

[sharp socket]

do you guys think hwah jah has potential for light bossing

[viscid swift]

no

[sharp socket]

sadge

[forest palm]

why Hwah Jah of all CVs

[barren tapir]

wife prolly

[sharp socket]

cause her statline doesnt look that bad

other than being really fast (which skyraider just fixes) she seems pretty good

pretty good for 6 planes that is

[storm heron]

hwah jah 4 striking

[sharp socket]

i havent figured that out hold on you might be cooking

nevermind

[sweet delta]

on spreadsheet, Hwah jah is 3 in medium and 2 in light

Enterprise is idk probably 4 in light iirc

[barren tapir]

double la9 hwa jah

[sweet delta]

Ikr who doesn't have 6 la9 for hwah jah, implacable, and Fritz

[atomic abyss]

So Soy Nahki HJ with TY/FS?

[last zenith]

oh ya everyone which duo is better i need a good second fleet, kaga/akagi or zuikaku/shoukaku

[weary gust]

Both are bad to not good.

[atomic abyss]

Both duos are meh at best and lose out to the Hiryuu and Souryuu retrofits

All of them lose out to any boss comp involving enty, let alone a UR CV

[last zenith]

who would u suggest

i dont use carriers too much

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what you have to begin with

[weary gust]

Dunno who you're using now. Most SR carriers from events are better, Saratoga is easy to get and once retroed very good.

Independence always great.

[atomic abyss]

If say you're using unicorn and saratoga for mob
Enterprise and Indep could work

The default for campaign is always 1 BB 2 CV for both mob and boss

[last zenith]

ok..

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately ^

[last zenith]

i have hakryuu and katsuragi

will they work ?

[atomic abyss]

If they are max stars they would be better yes

[last zenith]

theyre 2 away each]

i have a habit of limit breaking

[weary gust]

Not max limit break = do not use

[last zenith]

ok!

shoukaku and zuikaku it is!

[weary gust]

That won't help. You'll just be wasting more bulins and stalling your own progress. Even if they're already limit broken, then you're just wasting exp raising ships that won't be helping you much to progress. The only case it's worth raising them is if you already have two fully functional fleets and you're at w12 and can spare resources to grind.

In which case they're still not helping you, you're just rasing them for collection.

[last zenith]

i already have 2 good fleets just changing them

im asking what would be best in ur opinion

[weary gust]

We don't know what ships you have or where you're at in the game

Not using SR bulins on ships that won't help you do anything would be my advice, lacking specific details.

[last zenith]

[last zenith]

but is hakryuu or katsuragii good

[keen sable]

not yours

[weary gust]

Unless your Haku is at dev 30 she is not ready to use

[last zenith]

ah. ok

[night marsh]

hello i just saw ur post, whats the striketrough one means?

[atomic abyss]

At this point just use Hiryuu and Souryuu if you want to use IJN CVs

[soft raft]

stuff that already reran

[atomic abyss]

I'd rather you use enterprise or sth similar tho

[soft raft]

and then once it gets archived, its removed from the list completely

[last zenith]

[keen sable]

ryuuhou and zuiho...

[last zenith]

theyre only level 90

[keen sable]

sounds bad

[last zenith]

mhmm

[soft raft]

where are you even in the campaign?

[last zenith]

13-2

[eager mulch]

what does roon fate sim do and how good is her Aug

[soft raft]

yeah no dont bother with any of the non UR IJN CVs at that point

[last zenith]

😦

i have a level 123 shininao? 😄

[keen sable]

is she mlb?

[weary gust]

At max limit break?

[last zenith]

yes

[keen sable]

you one fleeted up to 13-2?

[last zenith]

she in my fleet one tho

[last zenith]

ya

[atomic abyss]

Maybe it's a good time to stop pushing campaign and start fixing fleets

[keen sable]

why do you want an ijn carrier?

[last zenith]

i work with any but my fleet centered around nagato

[keen sable]

well nagato can't be in both.

[forest palm]

stop trying to throw yourself at a wall, and work on your fleets

[eager mulch]

whats the highest season catchup available rn

[keen sable]

and neither can shinano

[forest palm]

6(?)

[fickle hollow]

bf?

[last zenith]

fleet one

im looking for a fleet 2

[keen sable]

bf-109g, ap rockets

[eager mulch]

PR6 is shimanto, Felix, flandre?

[keen sable]

yes and the question is why ijn carriers for fleet 2 where nagato isn't?

[last zenith]

ummm

[fickle hollow]

will there be any event/UR rerun next patch?

[atomic abyss]

Blucher event rerun

[sweet delta]

Next patch? Or after raid ends?

[viscid swift]

the patch after this upcoming one

[sweet delta]

Will there be a patch next week

[soft raft]

Blucher rerun confirmed for Feb 6th

[forest palm]

the Japanese literally just said next maint

I'd say EN can't read, but a lot can't read Japanese

[atomic abyss]

There's almost certainly no maint next week

Cos well

[keen sable]

sorry we party for a week see you soon

[atomic abyss]

Chinese/Lunar New Year

[soft raft]

Gear lab update dokko

[forest palm]

make it extra confusing with "Spring Festival"

[white agate]

EN can't read generates by many not being EN motherlanguage

[eager mulch]

i thought we normally got gear lab updates in january

[eternal moth]

Just because it's what normally happens doesn't mean it WILL happen

[atomic abyss]

Considering that CNY is sometimes in Feb instead of Jan

It was bound to happen at some point

[eternal moth]

And it's pretty much confirmed that it won't happen this month, as we know what's coming in the next maint

I completely forgot just how expensive it was to finish the dev section of a DR. 60k coins is rough

[forest palm]

for the newer player sure, for someone like me that's a drop in the bucket

[eternal moth]

Yeah

[weary gust]

For newer players it's over their softcap lol

[eternal moth]

That's actually a good point, I need to check my alt's softcap

[stark quiver]

my coins stalled at 370k
forgot how fortunate i am to not have to do face researches anymore

[turbid marsh]

damn i never reached 60k XD always had some way to spend it

[eternal moth]

So you never did FdG?

[turbid marsh]

oh i meant after finishing all research.

[ivory pawn]

Eh, by the time you can even build a DR, you're probably at least at oilcap stages.

Assuming you're actually playing the game at all, and not just logging in to get cubes and pull on stuff.

[dreamy blade]

reaching oilcap stages does not suddenly make coins infinite since you know...oil isnt infinite as a newer player i never understood the sentiment that coin problems go away once you reach ch12

[night marsh]

old peeps just dont upgrade, they just waiting for rainbow plates = more coins to hoard

[turbid marsh]

yeah cats ruins coin pretty quickly XD and ue

[ivory pawn]

Certainly doesn't, lord knows I've been putting off too many awakenings just because no coin. But it's still a sizable difference compared to before.

[dreamy blade]

i think it just doesnt make a big diff since early on you dont have a lot youre able to spend coins on anyway (limit breaking, research, cog awakening being the big ones)

[night marsh]

but the coin gain is low

[dreamy blade]

im saying that a daily coin income of 1k and expenditure of 0 is not much different from a daily coin income of 12k and expenditure of 10.2k for pr+dr coining

[runic bluff]

surely this is good enough??

[stark quiver]

its a cl cat so no
but its good as a cl cat

[storm heron]

good cat I'd say, keep it

[ivory pawn]

You can always opt to temporarily spend less if you have a large expense. Can't really opt to earn more.

[dreamy blade]

fair

[sullen dew]

Where should I place Eugen in my fleet for the best damage tanking?

[stark quiver]

shes fine there

[storm heron]

obligatory faction fleet bad

[sullen dew]

Ok thank you

[little tree]

~~ EW faction fleet ~~

[night marsh]

its 2k25 and ppl still hate other ppl happiness

[stark quiver]

just know, if youre trying to maximize on gameplay, using a fleet with a single faction is often suboptimal, but if you really want to, then yea thats fine

[sullen dew]

Good to know. Thank you for the tip.

[viscid swift]

Well I don't believe in deluding one's self into thinking something that's bad is good

[plain saffron]

Leftmost take highest dmg

[viscid swift]

Like, a lot of people who do faction fleets genuinely think it's a good strategy and it for that rather than just personal preference while and acknowledging it for what it really is

[eternal moth]

This is where you want to put Eugen

[stark quiver]

gph doesnt explain
just a "faction fleet bad" and 🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[viscid swift]

I mean we're always happu to elborate

but giving a long and detailed explanation that won't be read is rather a wasted effort

[sullen dew]

I feel that the ships buff their own faction (i.e. Bismarck or Queen Elizabeth) encourage single-faction fleets

[brisk dragon]

we got FS for haku and not Agir?

[soft raft]

just because you can doesnt mean you should

nor would it be actually viable

[viscid swift]

the factions buffs aren't enough to make up for the fact that some ships are just shit, in most cases you'd be better off running an off faction ship

[eternal moth]

Except generally those buffs are worse than the better ships in their class

[soft raft]

and in the cases of faction buffer ships that are actually good, the faction buff is treated more like a neat self buff

[eternal moth]

Or are attached to just bad ships. See Queen Elizabeth

[eager mulch]

eugen stays in the dock 🗣️

[viscid swift]

heck, a lot of faction fleets don't even use their faction buffers so what's the point

[obsidian ivy]

What's the best Algerie META fleet I can make to one shot

[eternal moth]

Even Nagato isn't good enough to make her worth using over Musashi, and she's generally one of the best faction buffers

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei plus 5 ships

[obsidian ivy]

Alg is heavy?

[viscid swift]

medium armor, and so are her summons

[sullen dew]

I guess it might also be my OCD rearing its ugly head lol

[eager mulch]

what’s the best fleet i can make with amagi-chan

[eternal moth]

2 rainbows and amagi

[turbid marsh]

bismark soy nahk z52 ara whatever

[dreamy blade]

the ships with faction buffs that are actually good also dont require a full fleet to take advantage of the buff (e.g. shinano, yk2, amagi cv)

[stark quiver]

huh

[eternal moth]

IJN has the closest to a good full faction fleet, but even then I don't think there are enough good vanguards to make it great

[dreamy blade]

huh what

[stark quiver]

o i misread it

[eternal moth]

Shinano/Haku/Amgai/Azuma/Unzen/Kaza can work, but wouldn't be ideal

I guess you could run Chikuma instead of Azuma for more CV buffs.

[elfin hollow]

Triple CV doesn't seem to work the best in W14 boss

[eternal moth]

No, it wouldn't. Why would you do that?

[sweet delta]

I must agree

[dreamy blade]

but yeah shinano/amagi/haku buffing each other with non-IJN vanguards is infinitely better than queen elizabeth buffing 6 HMS ships

[elfin hollow]

It still clears, but I lose Amagi CV

[atomic abyss]

That's because BBs are almost always better for bossing in campaign

[elfin hollow]

Guess I kick out Haku for Musashi or something?

[stark quiver]

rammers says hi

[dreamy blade]

if fritz is one of the CVs there it would help but yeah just put a BB in

[hollow gust]

Eagle

[stark quiver]

laff ham2 helena?

[dreamy blade]

for whatever reason the faction fleets that get posted here are usually kms

[hollow gust]

Why ARA

[stark quiver]

fuck i forgot again

[elfin hollow]

KMS doesn't even have good buffs

[humble echo]

as a new playing starting again should i go for akagi and kaga

[atomic abyss]

Because there's loads of KMS simps

[dreamy blade]

absolutely not

[atomic abyss]

You ignore both as they are newbie traps

[humble echo]

ah ok

[eternal moth]

With Kear/YT2/Enty/Laffey/Balti/Helena you'd probably have a solid fleet, actually, yeah

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

This would help

[humble echo]

thanks

[dreamy blade]

cleveland over baltimore

[stark quiver]

also
does the 20% exp boost for 120 morale ships stay even after going under mid run

[dreamy blade]

no, it's checked after each fight

[elfin hollow]

well it seems like brute forcing W14 has been working so far with just spamming URs

[dreamy blade]

or do you mean does it apply to the fight that brings you below 120, in which case i believe it should

[stark quiver]

after i dip below 120 mid run/3x

[eternal moth]

Would Guam be better than Laffii in that fleet?

Because armor break

[elfin hollow]

can you still move subs around?

How do I do that again?

[eternal moth]

Click Strategy, and then click the double location points icon

[elfin hollow]

I see it

[eternal moth]

Click Info for what each icon does

[sharp socket]

if your faction fleet has alot of rainbows, it cant be that bad

[elfin hollow]

KMS?

[stark quiver]

its not bad

[elfin hollow]

Does Bisko II have good buffs?

[stark quiver]

to herself yes lol

[torn latch]

She is great with or without KMS fleet

[elfin hollow]

That's kinda the story with KMS ships

[sharp socket]

many things can be a faction fleets if you just think harder

[cobalt gate]

so someone said impero counts as a healer? i'm confused

[viscid swift]

no

[eternal moth]

If you count cutting herself to heal someone else I guess.

[eager mulch]

redistribution not regeneration of health right?

[eternal moth]

Yep

[shut igloo]

What ships should I use against Taihou Meta?

[eternal moth]

It really depends on what you have

[storm heron]

pizza +183 hp

[cobalt gate]

wait the event doesn't count as victory for secretary quest?

[elfin hollow]

You have to get perseus outta there

To replace Perseus, put either Amagic CV or Haku

[shut igloo]

Got none 🥲

[shut igloo]

Shuuuu

[eternal moth]

This is exactly why a blanket "What do I use" question is essentially useless. We don't know what ships you have available

And you have a dev30 ply but not Haku?

[bleak nymph]

Ägir dps, what do I look for to determine if a weapon is high caliber?

[eternal moth]

Anything 283mm or above

[shut igloo]

I don't grind that much tbh 🥹

[eager mulch]

“What do i use” and then they hit you with the “assume i have everything”

[shut igloo]

I thought having Shinano and the new KMS CV was enough, so didn't bothered to take the extra pressure of grinding haku

[viscid swift]

if you want to one shot no

[elfin hollow]

Is it normal to Shinano to not do that much damage? A lot of fights tested and she always lags behind

[shut igloo]

Exactly

[bleak nymph]

She can use BB guns? No right?

[viscid swift]

depends on gear, the specific battle, etc

[shut igloo]

At this point I am thinking Shinano is weak af

[viscid swift]

uh....

well that's a lot of BS

[elfin hollow]

This was against 14-4 Mogami, but even in Meta fights similar story

[viscid swift]

okay a few things

one, never take end screen values at face value

you always have to consider what a ship is contributing other than just raw damage

Shinano is often buffing other IJN CVs and DDs, so you have to consider that

[elfin hollow]

I know She's buffing Amagi, but Amagi also bufss Shinano right?

[viscid swift]

yes

and end screen damage espeically in campaign is always tricky because among other things, AA damage is also counted towards that

[shut igloo]

How's 🌈 Yorktown 2?

[stark quiver]

fire and flood damage

[viscid swift]

you also just have to consider, how much is Shinano lagging behind because her strike didn't have anything to damage

like if Amagi is launchng first, she's probably clearing most of the wave and Shinano is clean up for camaign

meaning there's less HP for her to deal damage against in the first place

[elfin hollow]

I did two runs of 14-4 so far, first run was with triple CV and Amagi sunk. The second run I replace Haku for Musashi and the vanguards almost sunk.

[viscid swift]

sounds like a shitty fleet then

[elfin hollow]

It's barely getting the clears

[turbid marsh]

so whats your vanguard?

[viscid swift]

well what are you running

[elfin hollow]

The screenshot above

[viscid swift]

both ships and gear

[turbid marsh]

brave of you running azuma and kazagumo in boss fleet... but i guess kazagumo works a little bit.

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I am lacking some Vanguard options like Unzen

[viscid swift]

what gear are you running

[elfin hollow]

On vanguard, very standard stuff nothing past +10

[viscid swift]

what exactly is "standard"

[turbid marsh]

Or eld kai/laffey2 XD

[elfin hollow]

lacking Eld Kai, Laffey II is in Mob

[viscid swift]

also what formation are you using

[elfin hollow]

Straight line, is that bad?

[viscid swift]

yes

use double line

[elfin hollow]

I see

[viscid swift]

this is why

[elfin hollow]

If you're running CV should you always use Double line then?

[viscid swift]

not just for CVs

[stark quiver]

if youre running w14 u should use double

[viscid swift]

double line is my default period

[elfin hollow]

That's for W14 and 15?

[viscid swift]

yes

[elfin hollow]

Ok that's a big one then

[sweet delta]

Period

[viscid swift]

actively nerfing the eHP of your vanguard in content with high vanguard pressure is counterintuitive

[bleak nymph]

What is priority to spend protocores on right now? Is it ok if i use them to get agir gun or would I be handicapping myself?

[viscid swift]

Agir gun would be low priority

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[viscid swift]

pretty much 2-3 Champaign/Flandre guns and then the Tenrai is the prority

[bleak nymph]

champaign is the 406/50 right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[elfin hollow]

Does Hindenburg need two hindenburg guns?

[frank pulsar]

double drake gun is fine

doesnt rly matter as long as youre using 2 good guns
unless yr trying to optimise dmg

[wary skiff]

Any reason why some chapters have more clear per run even though the whole map got cleared out?

ie 11-2 gave 25% but I feel like I remember some levels giving more

[weary gust]

Generally takes more runs to clear a map as you go further into campaign.

[wary skiff]

That’s so much oil

[viscid swift]

also 3 starring and 100% clearing are 2 seperate affairs

3 starring doesn't reduce the number of clears needed for 100%

[wary skiff]

I usually do a full clear first, then the minimum and boss until 100%, later on I auto it for lower oil usage until 3 starred

[turbid gyro]

Who do I choose for the new years invitation thing?

[viscid swift]

you should be waiting until after you've unlocked oil caps to do a full clear to save oil

[viscid swift]

read the pins or you can just hold onto it

[turbid gyro]

yat sen it is

[boreal flame]

What should i do with general blueprint, convert to protocore or actually use it to develop ships

[soft raft]

Depends on what the highest season they go up to is

Cuz all of PR1-4 and the PRs from PR5 are coinable

[tender girder]

how do i farm 9-1?
my party dies at boss when it's at 0 ammo

or just git strongker

[hallow mountain]

am curious because i only recently came back to the game

so if i oathed Bismarck and made her wear the wedding dress, can her alter Zwei wear it too?

same thing with Laffey and Laffey II?

[stark quiver]

zwei has to be oathed to use wedding skin

[hallow mountain]

ah yeah i get it

so i assume this applies to oathing yorktown and yorktown ii?

[boreal flame]

So for those that are coinable it's better to convert to protocore?

[stark quiver]

it should

[vale spindle]

Except DR since they are more rare and u need a lot of them

[hallow mountain]

how to get more UR Blueprints?

[boreal flame]

Noted thank you all

[slim vapor]

Any fast way to earn red packet?

[stark quiver]

for gear lab?

[knotty sleet]

dont need to play the mini game

[wanton dawn]

if i have finished lvl30 Aghir and Hakuryuu, should i stay on pr4 to fate sim Hakuryuu or move on to pr5? thanks

[slim vapor]

Bruh

[knotty sleet]

i mean just enter and exit the mini game, the rest just auto hard the event will collect all the color should be easy haha

[pulsar hornet]

Do we have compilation of previous doc files involving old events?

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Events#Limited_Event_List
would this help?

[pulsar hornet]

Was trying to find some intial impression on Z52 and Rummy, but thinking about it... I should just ask.

What niche do they occupy?

[stark quiver]

rumey is good for anti light and medium armor, one of best option for w15 support fleet
Z52 is good for fleetwide damage buffing, as well as good AA, decent bulk, and flagship cover, good personal damage

[knotty sleet]

make sure to always research on something at a time
and can do that simultaneously with fate sim

[peak mulch]

Anyone have any tips for chapter 14-1? I can't get past the boss

[wanton dawn]

i mean should i prioritise pr4 or 5

[pulsar hornet]

Hmm... is Z52 an alternative to Mogador or is Mog still something?

[knotty sleet]

hmm for me i would go pr5 plymouth

[wanton dawn]

yea i think Hakuryuu without fate sim shld be very strong alr? with shinano

[viscid swift]

Well what do you have to work with

[knotty sleet]

yes i think can skip for now

[wanton dawn]

thanks:)

[sudden spoke]

does retrofitting ships count towards your collection ratio?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

Just coin haku to fs5

[wanton dawn]

oh coz im in tw server and we dont have coin for Hakuryuu... should be coming soon, we just got pr7

[viscid swift]

They're on TW

[peak mulch]

This is my fleets I'm using

Except Portland is in the middle

[viscid swift]

Yeah no wonder

They need a lot of work

W14 is a very different beast to W13

[peak mulch]

I'm able to beat the escorts but the boss is too tuff

[viscid swift]

Yeah even if you mob fleet doesn't have trouble now it will later

14-1 is the tutorial stage, difficulty only ramps up from here

It's a failure of both composition and probably gear as well

[viscid swift]

If you want something comprehensive start a thread and post your dock

[peak mulch]

How do I post a thread

[nimble knoll]

Is this worth?

[somber quest]

Saint Louis?

She's not really good for much that others can't do better at so... I wouldn't recommend it if you got options

[peak mulch]

I tried making one but it wouldn't make it?

[viscid swift]

did you try typing a new comment

[nimble knoll]

She's the only one I can do at pr1 (and pr1 is the only thing I can do rn)

[somber quest]

You got no fleet tech for the others right? Like Roon/Izumo

[nimble knoll]

Yup

[peak mulch]

Chapter 14 help

[somber quest]

Then just keep with Saint Louis for now

[nimble knoll]

Should I get it tho?

[somber quest]

I mean you might as well I wouldn't if you are low on resources though like no T2 retrofit parts

[sinful escarp]

did you complete pr4?

[somber quest]

Xeno didn't I don't think so

[nimble knoll]

Not yet, but I'm doing the research

[sinful escarp]

i would honestly go for pr4 first, the ships there have more uses

[somber quest]

But he got no fleet tech so he can only do PR1 I think for now

But yeah PR4 is way better because you can get Anchorage (one of the best CA tanks that's permanent), and Hakuryuu/that one iron blood CV which are great CV options

[wary skiff]

is there a way to convert overcapped exp post 125?

[somber quest]

Nope

It will max at 3 mil, then that's it

[sinful escarp]

125 is the current max

[wary skiff]

got it ty

[forest palm]

Overflow will be used if they increase the cap

[somber quest]

One day

[wary skiff]

ok that makes sense now lol

[nimble knoll]

Wait I can develop Roon rn, But should I?

[somber quest]

Roon is a much better tank, so if you need one, for sure

Also better stats in general since she's good at pretty much everything a starter CA needs to be

[wind hazel]

you shouldn't

your fleet 1 is barely going on, you don't have enough resources to raise 3 IB vanguard

[somber quest]

Wait what is their fleet?

Since I assumed you have a fully built functional fleet that can clear at least world 9

[nimble knoll]

Uni, Yk2, VV, Laffey, Portland, Helena

[somber quest]

Laffey Two?

[nimble knoll]

Nope, and not retro rn, but im close

[somber quest]

Oh.....

You got a second fleet or bossing?

Or is that your only...

[wind hazel]

please

[nimble knoll]

I can't do fleet 2 at the moment, I'm still in w7

[somber quest]

Oh world 7.... My bad man yeah don't worry about no PR1

[sinful escarp]

did you finish their retrofits?

unicorn, port,laffey and elena?

[nimble knoll]

I just need 2 more gold bps for Uni, I'm close on Laffey, But 4 nodes in Portland, and 0 on Helena

[stark quiver]

just dont change the fleet

[somber quest]

Um... yeah just raise that...

I thought he developed much more but yeah forget what I said before just development your 2 fleets for basic compaign

[sinful escarp]

only thing i see as the problem is the levels.
how about skill levels? (not counting portland's red skill because its useless)

[sweet delta]

*portland's both skills

[somber quest]

Her defensive one is worth it for tanking I guess

He got no tanks man

[sweet delta]

at max level, it's like 1% more survivability for the fleet. Not worth the skill books at all

[stark quiver]

portland not being a tank be like

[somber quest]

For him though, it's still better than anything else

[nimble knoll]

Laffey, Uni, VV, Yk2 Have Level 8,and Port and Helena Have Lvl 6's

[somber quest]

Imagine trying to tank with Helena

[wind hazel]

what are you saying

[sweet delta]

you're completely missing the point, portland is good for tanking, but her yellow skill is worthless

[somber quest]

I'm saying portland is by far the best tank out of all of his options, since he dosen't have any other CA / CB

Not to mention no PR4

[wind hazel]

do you see anyone else claiming otherwise

[somber quest]

Oh my bad

[humble echo]

is fu po good

[somber quest]

Well the point stands ig........

[somber quest]

Retrofit will make her good... some year it might happen....

[humble echo]

oh ok im new

[somber quest]

Oh no problem man yeah she's.... yeah

[somber quest]

Just keeping building that fleet for now and maybe a second if you get more ships

[nimble knoll]

So I did a dum dum by making it lvl 6-

[stark quiver]

no

[sinful escarp]

not really, its just very low on priority

[somber quest]

Nah it's just like Jadite said, low priority

It's helpful, just not as much as the other ship's skills

[nimble knoll]

Do you think my Fleet 1 can carry 6-4hm?

[somber quest]

Give it a try

I think you got it

[nimble knoll]

They keep killing the final ship before uni can use her skill smh

[somber quest]

Heal skipped-

[humble echo]

https://tanknut.github.io/al-tierlist/

i cant find tai yung on the tier list what are they

[somber quest]

Woah new list?

[sinful escarp]

ddg

[wind hazel]

it's a shit list

[sweet delta]

for a start, stop using a tier list with negative credibility

[somber quest]

Yuudachi?

[wind hazel]

implacable t1 niche mm yes

[sweet delta]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[somber quest]

T1? BRUH THE ROUTE IS SO ESSENTIAL

*Amagi BC = Unicorn & Shinano & Plymouth.... *What are they on

[dreamy blade]

marco polo above implac and yk2 has got to be bait

[barren tapir]

that tierlist....

couldnt even find my namesake on it

[somber quest]

LOL

[barren tapir]

monarch above ruppy is

[sweet delta]

hey stop murming people with insider knowledge of monarch aug

[barren tapir]

oh god saratoga gear recommendation: 2x su-2

[wary skiff]

im guessing subs are lowest prio for limit breaking?

[crimson glacier]

subs dont really do anything before w14

[dreamy blade]

yes, especially if theyre not gold subs

[wary skiff]

ive mainly used them in opsci

[crimson glacier]

thats fine

[wary skiff]

im still a bit away from w14 so i'll disregard them for now

[crimson glacier]

you dont really need to level any more than 3 subs ever so

[wary skiff]

ya that was my thought too, i only got u-96 and i-168 for golds

[arctic aspen]

I didn't even know there was a site that was for specific content

[wind hazel]

there isn't one

asking around is the closest thing

[arctic aspen]

I was here thinking slaimuda was the best one, so I asked which they thought was the best one but I kinda just got nonanswers

It was implied slaimuda wasn't even the best site for general stuff

which begs the scary question: which site is it

[somber quest]

Oh?

[wind hazel]

no site is, because every fight is context dependent

[somber quest]

Yeah

Azur Lane needs you to understand what you are fighting, what you need to bring, and how stuff works

Tier lists can't really be depended upon all the time. For example, Aurora is the single best vanguard in the entire game when her skill works, but when it dosen't, no one brings her

[arctic aspen]

at least slaimuda descriptions would explain things like that lol

[somber quest]

Yeah I'd say this: Slaimuda is a good start to things, and watching Youtube game guides is also a good start. But, if you want to know how ships stack up, you got to just read the wiki and learn how the game works.

[sinful escarp]

youtube tier lists are not recommended,

[somber quest]

I meant guides on game mechanics my bad

[arctic aspen]

dude I just want to auto and get shit over with like 90% of the people who play this game

[somber quest]

Armour mods, explanation on targeting centers, plane debriefs on bomb spread/damage, etc

[sinful escarp]

basically just level ships, do opsi, play daily and if you have questions just ask here

[somber quest]

Eh just level ships basically every ship with decent gear can get you to 12-4

[arctic aspen]

that wasnt my point

[somber quest]

Yeah you know what if you just want to get stuff over and auto, Slaimuda is good enough for that

Just follow that

[arctic aspen]

I finally got my answer. thanks

[somber quest]

All good man

[barren tapir]

i like suchis list

[slow fox]

ECGC

[arctic aspen]

is there a site that shows the META fight and best things to use against em?

[barren tapir]

CN has one of those but idk the link

[arctic aspen]

[tropic tusk]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/METAboss攻略要点 there is this dont know if it helps

click this for the other meta part

[arctic aspen]

[tropic tusk]

are u like using google translate

[arctic aspen]

no superior languages here

ok nvm this site hurts my head

[tropic tusk]

u just click on bottom right to open

then use ur phone open up google lens and click translate

[storm heron]

what in the

also you can just ask here

[woven star]

What can I do useful with second Shinano? Just dropped I have one mlb

[wind hazel]

more medals for you

[tropic tusk]

or keep another copy cause u like her

[arctic aspen]

I wouldn't need to annoy yall every time a new boss comes up, if I had a site for it (not to mention the gear)

[peak moat]

Taihou meta armor?

[storm heron]

adding 1 new annoyance to 20 doesn't make that much different

[wind hazel]

i wouldnt call them annoyance

[nimble knoll]

I finally Retrofitted Uni! (Next would be Laffey cuz she's 4 nodes away from being retro fitted, and Portland is only 4 nodes in and after that Helena's Retro?)

Where can you get more Blue DD BP's? Nvm found it

[tropic tusk]

medal shop n hard mode drop

[dreamy blade]

well seeing how thats literally what the channel exists for i dont think it will be an issue

[humble echo]

why is hai yung not in the tier list