gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

It's approximately cos we don't know the actual value

[nimble knoll]

Should I use Yk2 only and use Low level ships to farm earlier worlds..?

[atomic abyss]

No

Dude, focus on your singular fleet

[forest palm]

either way if you're doing Lv 120 grind you should have a ship at max affection by Lv 110

[nimble knoll]

My yk2 is already mlb

[atomic abyss]

Stop trying to raise a second fleet

[keen sable]

i haven't seen an answer to what is the status of SP5 or D1 or Hard

[nimble knoll]

I don't understand-

[keen sable]

Passionate Polaris SP5, Iris of Light and Dark D1, Raid Hard. Can you farm them?

If not why?

[nimble knoll]

I can farm PP at Sp5, Idk about Iris Of Light And Dark D1, And I can farm Raid Hard (but Portland keeps dying)

[nimble knoll]

I haven't tried Iris yet, and I'm low on keys or whatever it needs to unlock them

Yk2 scales off Aviation right?

[keen sable]

Does using HELP on PP SP5 not consume enough daily oil for you? You should be able to easily raise 2 fleets there

[nimble knoll]

My Yk2 Has 567 Aviation, and she's MLB, is she good?

[eternal pine]

Chat is pamiat merkuria meta good?

[nimble knoll]

I don't know what HELP is but I have some spare oil after grinding My Uni cuz she just hitted level 100

[keen sable]

High Efficiency Logistics Plans

[nimble knoll]

I used them all sadly.. And I used it all during the Yk2 event

[keen sable]

Well tomorrow. War Archives is made for them

[nimble knoll]

Which is better for Dmg, A lvl 100 MLB uni (not retro yet sadly) or a Lvl 74 MLB Yk2?

[keen sable]

is this for raid? hmm

interesting question

[nimble knoll]

Should I send my Yk2 and Uni build

Here or the thread?

[keen sable]

you know you can quit raid fights right? try both comps

like before you kill the boss quit

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[keen sable]

i'll look in thread

[white agate]

does amagi skill mean she buff torpedo bomber of allies sakura empire ships even if the torpedo bombers are non sakura empire?

[frank pulsar]

she buffs any kind of torp from sakura empire ships
the gear they use is irrelevant

[white agate]

nice

[eternal pine]

why is fredrick carl even good btw?

[sharp socket]

can i auto 14-4 safe

[zinc cave]

better stats, better skills

[tender girder]

is it just me or does portland skill's suck?
it seems like she's only a great def by being beefy in HP?

[hollow gust]

Shes tanky unlike Takao , she actually has damage output unlike Commonguen

[zinc cave]

quite literally it

[atomic abyss]

Yep
Shit skills but ridiculous stats

[onyx pine]

Anyone know what is this?

[wind hazel]

/wiki akashi questline

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[onyx pine]

thankyou

[tender girder]

are there defense stats in this game?

[hollow gust]

Kinda?

[white agate]

armor types and hp and eva and luck

[hollow gust]

AA

[barren barn]

Is arbitre even doable

I took him 1 HP he slaped me

[wind hazel]

yes it's very doable...

[white agate]

arbiter normal is quite easy 1-2 month in; arbiter hard is another question like it becomes doable in 1-2years without using regroup but rewards for it are not great

[nimble knoll]

Is my Yk2 Good?

[hollow gust]

That's a decent, newbie comp

[nimble knoll]

Yosha

[agile sparrow]

How to you get the last 5 pieces of the rare torpedos from this event?

[eager mulch]

what rare torpedos

[eager mulch]

those are in gear lab

[barren barn]

How do loadouts work

[eager mulch]

poorly

[worldly pewter]

harbiter is doable in 4 months with active playing

[white agate]

hard arbiter?

[eager mulch]

in game loadouts from other people are mostly bad

[barren barn]

Should i save my own loadouts?

[eager mulch]

sure

[white agate]

but you need to use regroup and rest i think; only in 1year you should be able to get enough offensive power to blast it in a single 4 fleet go no?

[barren barn]

I have opsi gears and others for campaign

[worldly pewter]

it depends on which boss imo
the easy one is 4 months the hard ones are maybe 6

my thread that got nuked had some evidences

[white agate]

idk, to me it took more to do harbiter, but that may be me not using a single +13 weapon

[sharp echo]

oh come on, 30 enemy for auto? seriously

[white agate]

i used to use regroup and rest first 2 times and then one; then i was able to clear in one

[hollow gust]

Depends on what URs you start with

[eternal pine]

Hey chat is there anything I should be getting from these?

[hollow gust]

100 completion rate is not the same as 3 star

[worldly pewter]

yeah the armor type plays a major role in deciding
for me it took 4 months because basically it was the easiest harbiter in the history
last april light armor and i could +13 2 bf

[white agate]

specialized core and gold t4 gear plates are always good

[sharp echo]

oh right, but still...

[hollow gust]

30 is basically nothing , at least you don't have to manually grind

[sharp echo]

isnt auto in hard only boss appear?
iirc

[white agate]

no, you can auto everything once 100% completition; ofc if your fleet is able to

[wind hazel]

kazagumo if you dont have her, hood/tirpitz or any other BB that you may want for faction tech, specialized core, gold bulins
T4 gold plates, gun or planes

can ignore META shop, Merit shop for now

[worldly pewter]

for hard u have to manually grind them

[white agate]

once 100% tho you can do auto ad do only the boss

[worldly pewter]

turn off the auto function go in the map
kill the escorts and leave without doing the boss

[white agate]

oh you meant to get 3 star, i don't think they wanted it tho?

[worldly pewter]

do u know how many clears to auto w15 ?

[wind hazel]

at least 2

[sharp echo]

no, dont tell me

[white agate]

the one to get to auto and then the ones to get to safe

[worldly pewter]

yeah lets move the safe part to the side

[woven star]

is any information about drop rate of Quadruple 380mm (Mle 1935) from WA maps?

[inner delta]

no info about any drop rate

[woven star]

sadge

[white agate]

isn't it in core excange too?

[woven star]

yes but I don't want to use cores for now

and I have 5 of 15 prints so decide to farm little bit it

there is two maps Iris of the Light and the Dark D3 and Crescendo of Polaris SP5 both of them I don't have final 60 piece reward question only which one have better drop

[tulip zenith]

Who’s the best ddg

[woven star]

I'm looking Triple 406mm (Mle 1938 Prototype) this gun have nice medium and heavy damage and it's fine cd to my Musashi Triple 410mm for synchronize. Don't want to use electronics in gear lab or core shop. So that's a plan for me for now

[soft raft]

You'd rather do PR3 researches for champy gun instead of buying it with Protocore

[woven star]

I'm on PR4 for CV

[soft raft]

then why are you saying you dont want to spend neither gear lab mats or protocore to buy Champy gun?

Because otherwise the only way to get it is to do PR3 researches

[woven star]

don't have a lot of core and gear electronics part. I can made Champy from lab without them but I need Quadruple 380mm

[soft raft]

Just get it from protocore tbh
I never really saw the need to craft it in gear lab nor do I feel like it's really worth the expenditure to go that route

[woven star]

in core I want Type 93 Pure Oxygen Torpedo and Improved Snorkel and maybe FuMO 25 so don't want to spend on gun

many items in shop more likely than that and I always have overcaped tickets from WA so decide to do some maps

[wind hazel]

uh, i don't think those are the same "core" you're thinking about

[soft raft]

he's wanting to get Jean Bart gun from core data to craft Champy gun

[wind hazel]

i see, i misunderstood

[woven star]

I have Triple 406mm (MK-1), Twin 457mm (Mark A Prototype) and few Musashy guns and my team not syncronized at all especialy when I try to make Musashy as flagship

Mark A fast, 406 only good for medium and etc.

[storm heron]

bro's going this route

[wind hazel]

well yeah, that's why most people recommend buying it off protocore shop

[shell willow]

6 ordnance for 1

[wind hazel]

ye it's expensive

[elfin hollow]

Guys is hms eagle good the elite ship

[atomic abyss]

no

[whole crypt]

does swapping Mogador for Z52 still want 0 CV RLD for showdown?

[wind hazel]

depends what you running, i heard cheeky does that to sync the z52 buff

but his is unoath so it's kinda pointless to you guys

[whole crypt]

I probably should be reading up on the skill timing

wait doesn't Z52 proc on top main fleet launch/salvo

if your carriers are sycned it doesn't matter if you take the RLD down does it

[shell willow]

it does proc on top main fleet launch yes

[storm heron]

I don't think you need to sync anything to mog other than unzen's facetorp or one airstrike like in nagato meta

[woven star]

Easy) 8-23 to go, 11 runs with 115 oil per run. Yep awful drop rate

[storm heron]

iirc the 0 cv rld was mainly used so the second airstike can launch after taihou's pets are spawned

[wind hazel]

oh i remember it wrong then it was syncing z52 and unzen torp

[soft raft]

#game-news message
Wait wasnt she a Cruise Pass META

[wind hazel]

he set it both cv and ca to 0, idk why cv 0

[atomic abyss]

i also remember her being a cruise pass meta...

[wind hazel]

maybe to also sync with unzen torp, probably best ask him

[atomic abyss]

next on the doss shd be mint no?

[storm heron]

I think I got blocked

[soft raft]

Yeah

[wind hazel]

i was just reading cheeky's old messages

[wind hazel]

also does this matter?

i thought the airstrike gonna go to taihou either way

[tulip zenith]

how do u get these\

[atomic abyss]

event limited

[wind hazel]

muse event, to love ru collab

[tulip zenith]

rip

[storm heron]

I heard it once in one of Jimmy's video but never ask it here because I assume everybody knew. Lemme double check

Jimmy on I did 50 runs of taihou meta
"I reduced ca rld to 0 so I can use double oxy in Unzen" (0:23)
"The point of 0 cv rld is so the second airstrike,..., can arrive when taihou does her final summon" (3:07)

[wind hazel]

but why

[atomic abyss]

holy min max

[wind hazel]

no but i mean, dont the airstrike goes to taihou herself?

[whole crypt]

because damage on summons translate onto Taihou so you get more out of AoE effects

[wind hazel]

what's the difference before and after summon

oh right db, i forgot

bruh i had all tb in my mind

[crimson glacier]

reminds me when that one youtuber claimed to have taihou speedrun world record when the stage was bugged

[stark quiver]

Bros watching jimmy for gameplaymaxxing

[plain saffron]

server 0.00% reward

[agile sparrow]

Thank you showed up in my mailbox

[plain saffron]

Fuck i forgot to do 1 fight in amagi account

[stark quiver]

was memphis meta a cruise pass meta

[atomic abyss]

yes

seems CN goofed

[tropic tusk]

is there a fleet guide for the event ex ?

[soft raft]

Good enough ships to kill it

[stark quiver]

advanced challenge?

[tropic tusk]

yea advance one sorry

[stark quiver]

anti med fleet

with eld retro off tank

[tropic tusk]

wts anti med fleet ? like no healer?

[stark quiver]

its a single boss

[eternal moth]

anti medium, a fleet good against medium armor

[tropic tusk]

does mushi , shino, amagi cv - ply, hele , eld works?

[stark quiver]

maybe

[eternal moth]

Probably

[weary gust]

Depends on your gear and how many debuffs/buffs you select.

[tropic tusk]

nice it works

up till +61% score coudlnt get 10k score tho

[sweet delta]

[tropic tusk]

have tehy ever added new levels to main story before?

[atomic abyss]

many many times

base game was just up to w5 lol

[tropic tusk]

when was the last time they added w15 and w14

[atomic abyss]

w15 was added like, nov or dec 2022?

[tropic tusk]

wa that to little

[tropic tusk]

so i assume 14 was 2020?

[atomic abyss]

wait, not 2022

2023 lol

[boreal wagon]

w15 was 19th of oct 2023

[sweet delta]

14 was 2 years b4 15

[stark quiver]

ch 16 this year

[tropic tusk]

so this year we might get 16

[white agate]

hopefully not level 130 ships

[tropic tusk]

oh yea was ship max level awalys 125

[boreal wagon]

unlikely, the devs publicly said they dont like raising the cap

[south sequoia]

100, then 120, then on 2021 it was raised to 125

[tropic tusk]

they dont like but if u want more content u will need to raise cap

[boreal wagon]

they might but they certainly don't need to

[atomic abyss]

what they did was nerf older content

[stark quiver]

they could just make 135 enemies and keep us at 125

[white agate]

idk, maybe they get creative and they finna something not requiring rising the levels of opponents ships

[tropic tusk]

whts the highest level enemy so far?

[stark quiver]

130

is there 135 enemies

[sweet delta]

I don't remember what level people got to in CM. Maybe there was level 160 or 200 enemies

[tropic tusk]

wts cm

[boreal wagon]

yeah old CM could go pretty high

[stark quiver]

oh old cm

[sweet delta]

Challenge mode

[tropic tusk]

wa 200 thats really high

[white agate]

literally boss telling us to touch grass

[sweet delta]

Normal non-chapter14 suicide boats that evaded 70% of attacks through sheer level and stat advantage

[tropic tusk]

damm

how about wep was it always +13

[atomic abyss]

+13 came about with opsi

opsi has been around since 2022

[tropic tusk]

yea probly +13 wil a few more years then

[boreal wagon]

opsi was 2020

[atomic abyss]

was it really

[boreal wagon]

dec 22nd of 2020

[tropic tusk]

is it possible to clear w15 without +13 and rainbow gear?

[atomic abyss]

ofc

[tropic tusk]

with auto

[stark quiver]

90mms can replace UR aa
breguet in place of wyverns
helldivers for tenrai

[tropic tusk]

nice

[rigid onyx]

pastabofors cannot 'replace' ur aas

[wind hazel]

i'll believe it when i see it

[rigid onyx]

fairly sure if you have no ur AA guns you just spam roombas

[jaunty vault]

is boss dead on all servers

[white agate]

wouldn't 6tuple bofors be on the list too?

[white agate]

amagi cleared like 1h ago for me

[stark quiver]

sextuples are gold already

[jaunty vault]

oh

guess i missed it

[white agate]

yeah, i mean; using not only 90mms but also sextuple bofors and some accelerator

[tropic tusk]

miss wt

[tame jungle]

read their previous message

[stark quiver]

i never said only use 90mm

[tropic tusk]

is the boss dead?

[white agate]

for us? yeah, you can still get contribution points tho

[soft raft]

hah no 2nd better missile for you
tho other than that you didnt really miss much, the other gear reward was the American quad mag

[tropic tusk]

no i mean if the boss is dead wht did he miss

[wind hazel]

he missed me

[tame jungle]

the boss dying

[white agate]

he did not attak it in time so he gets no missle

[tropic tusk]

oh

wait the event started 4 days ago and no time to hit 1 time?

poor guy

[soft raft]

Some people simply may have just been too busy to log in

[eager mulch]

I am not some people

[keen owl]

Wc UR PR gear BP should i focus on getting?

[atomic abyss]

tenrai first

[keen sable]

from where?

focus 5, tenrai with protocore

what you really want is la-9 but...

[keen owl]

So 5 tenrais I only have 2 built lol

Whats La-9 ?

[keen sable]

no, season 5 not 5 tenrais

the gear from season 7

[keen owl]

Oh i have 1 + 29/50

[keen sable]

gear is somewhat associated with ships so if you don't have plymouth then you should focus season 5

[keen owl]

Heres my Current UR gears

[keen sable]

bad tenrai. more la-9 or go back and get finish from 5+ you skipped

[keen owl]

And these too

[keen sable]

i don't see any la-9? but 1 + 29/50 is kind of normal

ahh there they are in second pic

finish ships you skipped else more la-9

[keen owl]

Im done with Dev 30s but dont have enough for F5

Imma Focus getting 1 more La-9 and Get some Vit or whatever that Converging Torp bomber's name is

[sweet delta]

6 vits is already way more than used

[keen owl]

Is the other one better cause it has 6 Torps?

[soft raft]

PR7 VIT is converging torps
PR5 VIT is a Skypirate sidegrade

[keen owl]

They have same name torpedo NP but 6 is not Magnetic?

[eager mulch]

no it has its mode changed

[ivory pawn]

4 isn't magnetic either. It's how the plane drops the torps, not the torps themselves.

[atomic abyss]

there's no such thing as magnetic torp bombers

[keen owl]

They just focus fire

[atomic abyss]

left is a ryuusei side grade basically

[eager mulch]

one could say they converge

[keen owl]

I thought its magnetic like Surface torps of IB

[atomic abyss]

no

they cant change directions once launched

no plane TB can do that

only magnetic surface/sub torps can

[lethal tangle]

Is vit 2 better than Aichi or than ju 87? For heavy armor

[atomic abyss]

blue vit-2 is converging
white vit-2 is parallel

[atomic abyss]

side grade
slightly higher dmg but slightly slower
use the one that fits your timing best

[keen owl]

Is Wyvern still the best parallel or is spearfish better?

[weary gust]

Spearfish isn't parallel so ...

[boreal wagon]

it is parallel

[weary gust]

I thought it was rocket?

[keen owl]

Combo?

[boreal wagon]

it has both

[atomic abyss]

parallel torps and rockets

spearfish is too ex to be worth it

wyvern is just better on campaign usually

spearfish is better for opsi mob but lol opsi mob

[keen owl]

Opsi mobs are pushovers tho

[atomic abyss]

exactly

[slender turtle]

Where do I get the final 5 prints of the torps from event?

[atomic abyss]

when the boss dies

[soft raft]

your mail once the boss dies

[inland shoal]

Is boss still alive on any servers?

[slender turtle]

Ah gotcha ty!

[lethal tangle]

Isn't timing based on fighters? I use x5fu on york2, kear, implacable fleet and they most synchronize.

[atomic abyss]

[keen owl]

Is that BiS surface torp right now?

[atomic abyss]

no
because there's no true side grades for the best fighters for bossing

they are just down grades

[keen owl]

This one?

[full pumice]

for some reason im unable to select a main gun for hindenburgs AA gun slot despite me having some available and should be able to. does anywone know why this is?

[atomic abyss]

so you would not tweak your fighters for timing

[boreal wagon]

is your hindeburg dev30

[atomic abyss]

because she's not dev 30

[full pumice]

ah

[inland shoal]

Your Hindy is dev30 yes?

[soft raft]

you uh
do know that carriers have more than just fighters

And tbh most of the timing adjustment shenanagins you'd do arent even on the fighter slot

[atomic abyss]

you would not even use XF5U for bossing outside of campaign

at least, not optimally

[full pumice]

how do i get more blueprints for these guns without having to analyze the pr ship exp boosters?

[keen owl]

Exchange the extra PR ship bp u have

[lethal tangle]

I see, also is this fleet fine or should I change them for Shinano and amagi for heavy?

[soft raft]

analyzing those CDC packs is the main way
along with exchanging excess BPs of ships that are at least D30

[atomic abyss]

shinano should not be using any fighters for heavy

[boreal wagon]

the other source of those blueprints themselves being doing research

[atomic abyss]

amagi ideally uses the LA-9 for heavy

[keen owl]

Analyze it

[atomic abyss]

kear fleet is just so much worse for heavy

[lethal tangle]

Any loadout I can reference?

[stark quiver]

does mvp get more affinity

[atomic abyss]

double

[stark quiver]

i need to neuter sashi

[keen owl]

Is 1-1 the best Place to speed run affinity?

[atomic abyss]

speed run wasting oil more like

[boreal wagon]

the best way to speed run affinity is doing it while you are faming smth else

[stark quiver]

notice how we have a raid event rn

[white agate]

farm them to level 120🧠

[keen owl]

Speed running oath so u can post at trophy room

[white agate]

btw when are shitters usually able to do 12-4 full without help for the boss fleet?

[keen owl]

What level can they usually do it without uni support?

[soft raft]

why would you do that when you can just have your dedicated boss fleet deal with that shit faster

[hollow gust]

Tbf boss fleet gives better exp

[white agate]

because my boss fleet is level 125 and i waste oil, and doing a boss fleet to level felt bothersome

[soft raft]

You already have oil cap, fym waste oil

[stark quiver]

just dont use the boss fleet

[hollow gust]

The restriction most of the time is moral , more exp for the same amount of moral is preferable

[white agate]

my boss fleet wastes the exp given by boss node if they are already level 125

[stark quiver]

boss x fleet
mob does all, level 105~ should be fine

[hollow gust]

When your ships are around lvl105-110 they can pretty consistently able to beat boss. That's with the caveat they have decent gear at the very least

[white agate]

this accounting for alsace musashi soyuz cross fleet too?(surely that helps a bit)

[hollow gust]

Sure I guess?

[wind hazel]

just put another 6 shitters on boss fleet and let them take on boss

granted they aren't dogshit shitters tier

[errant fog]

is the mk35 torpedo good?

[soft raft]

not really

[errant fog]

aight I wont grind the joint operation for it, Thanks!

[stark quiver]

just dont try to run oklahoma,tennesee,and california in a fleet and expect it to go well

[sweet delta]

I think you meant terror, Abercrombie, and erebus

[wind hazel]

is that from experience

[stark quiver]

anyways, after affinity grinding, ima have to go thru the same stuff, except with 3 cv now

[grave ivy]

Which shipgirl should i get with the spring invitation?

[stark quiver]

in pinned messages
or you can just hold onto it

[grave ivy]

I was thiking in yat sen or kuyby

[keen owl]

At what points is good enough to stop at the event? Or is it good place to farm washing Machines that i have lots of?

[rain vine]

whatever the milestone marker is before the rainbow boxes

[keen owl]

Got it thanks

[weary gust]

30k for the 700 core data is the most important. 38k for the next milestone isn't far from that and is still good. The boxes are usually useless.

[eternal basalt]

38k, don't think 10k is worth it for prints

[ivory pawn]

48k for dr prints isn't terrible, and is easy enough to reach. Would be better if Washing Machines actually existed.

[hollow birch]

i maxed out the PRs what do i focus research on?

[ivory pawn]

But if you need to spend the oil elsewhere, 38k is good too.

[tropic tusk]

How do U even earn these points lol

[atomic abyss]

defeat the boss more

you can still fight the boss if it's dead

[eternal basalt]

Boss abuse

[tropic tusk]

Only ex count right?

[weary gust]

All ways of killing the boss except the "Advanced" one gives points.

The "Advanced" one has its own reward pool based on the score you can reach.

[tropic tusk]

Oh ok 3q

[sturdy forum]

Is anybody else unable to start to mini game? I can't find a start button? It just sends me to weaken and that's it

[tropic tusk]

Click cancel

[runic lagoon]

Where do you get the design plans for gear? Ive been doing operation siren but I still dont really have them

[stark quiver]

the UR ones?

[runic lagoon]

The SR ones, but tell me both haha

[stark quiver]

OPs port shops sell 3 UR bps and Sr bps

can get them from a abyssals as rng drops and 1 UR frm arbiter

and hidden zones

[runic lagoon]

Oof, can I get it if I just beat act 5 or do I beat every act?

[stark quiver]

once you finish the story, the shops will be available

[runic lagoon]

Ah okay then, thanks for your help!

[tropic tusk]

Opsi reset every month

So after U beat it shop will reset every first day of the month

[rigid onyx]

first month opsi shop is weird, i think it cycles every 3 days or smth

[eternal basalt]

The latest 3 shops sell the UR bp

[sturdy forum]

.... Am I that stupid? 😭Thank you! I swear I tried that

[uncut wren]

is there a retrofit priority list?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the ships you have

[tropic tusk]

Isn't just a few then rest are up to U?

[white agate]

priority is retro uni

and portland for missions

also if the mission asks you to retro the starter probably that too i guess

[tropic tusk]

Then nelson to help U in the beginning if need , also Helena is a good retrofit as U will use her alot

[white agate]

oh, fuck; i had forgot helena, i assumed she was always sr since i have her retroed and i never see her purple version

[tropic tusk]

For me jav or ayanami is good retrofit cause they can help U tank in the early game , so just 1:1 clear till world 9 with retrofit unicorn

[sweet delta]

wtf

[stark quiver]

What on earth did I just read

[atomic abyss]

im sorry what

that is a horrible recommendation

[tropic tusk]

I did say for me

[stark quiver]

1:1 , w9, and jav tank should not be in the same sentence

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt matter if it's for you

you're saying it as a response to a question

and if you are advising people

you should give them the correct recommendation

not "what works for you"

[tropic tusk]

Mb then

[atomic abyss]

cos just so you know

[eager mulch]

buying cubes with gems worked for me but i wouldn’t advise other people to do it

[atomic abyss]

aya is extremely frail
javelin less so but still frail

[tropic tusk]

It did work out for me back then tho

[eager mulch]

doesn’t mean it isn’t terrible

[atomic abyss]

because your battles were ending fast thanks to uni

and you were probably massively over levelled from grinding in events

[tropic tusk]

oh ya maybe that's y

[sweet delta]

can level 120 UR bulin 1:1 up to chapter 9 with unicorn?

[atomic abyss]

first and last time i want to see such recommendations

next time we see something like that being recommended unironically

that's gonna be 1 strike towards a help ban

i dont mean you suchi

not this time at least

oh

nevermind

that's not the first strike

[stark quiver]

Goodbye

[hushed delta]

does AmagiUr's crossfleet barrage do more damage if she is geared? "it says it scales with her AVI stat"

[stark quiver]

Yes

[hushed delta]

ugh

[woven star]

This should be a barage crosfeet tier list. Amagy cv and Shinano good but I preferred Musashy cos their barage works with some options and have long time activation time same as NJ. Like Musashy every 15 sec in every battle

[atomic abyss]

the best crossfleets are the BB ones

while Amagi and Rumey's are massive improvements over say shinano, they're still not as good as the BB crossfleets

[woven star]

Ther is a time when enemies dies or you fleet dead

[atomic abyss]

best are still NJ, Alsace, Soyuz, Musashi

tho NJ and Soy have the same timers iirc?

well i didnt mention the frontliners

[woven star]

I noticed NJ weaker damage as Musashy or it's split alot

NJ 20 sec?

I'll check

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is 15, 35
Als is 16
Soy is 18
NJ is 20

[spice phoenix]

is northampton II a viable CV slow or not?

[forest palm]

no

[atomic abyss]

north 2 has 50% slow if eagle flag
eld retro has 60% slow

light and med armour bosses usually move the most, they require freezes

[forest palm]

also as far as Med, and Heavy are concerned Musashi should outgun NJ

[atomic abyss]

and the heavy bosses that dont move much... wont use eagle flag soooooooooooo

there's not really a case you'd use north 2

you'd sooner use tash to proc nakhi's freeze on a kears nakhi yk2 comp for light armour

wait north 2's slow is worse than i remembered

If your Flagship is a CV or a CVL, decreases this ship's DMG taken by 5.0% and, when your Flagship launches an airstrike: fires a Lv.10 special barrage that ignores enemy shields (DMG is based on the skill's level; if your Flagship is an Eagle Union ship, the barrage also inflicts a -50.0% SPD debuff for 8s to enemies hit).

...the wording of this

[woven star]

Btw z52 have crosfleet barrage that was a surprise for me)

[atomic abyss]

the barrage shd fire right regardless of CV req right?

[left cedar]

How does the event work? Can i only do 15 hard modes every day or?

[eternal basalt]

You can do as much as you like

[left cedar]

What does the 15/15 mean then?

[sweet delta]

Barrage fires if flag is carrier. Barrage slows if flag is eagle union carrier

[woven star]

60k top price at the end. But I think 48k enough

[keen sable]

that seems harsh. what about claims javelin is best starter and jabbers being tankiest starter dd. tankier than cc actually

[eternal basalt]

Extra reward runs

[atomic abyss]

oh god that's a horrible skill then

[left cedar]

Should i keep doing it then? Or just do 15 everyday

[atomic abyss]

or at least, worse than i thought

[eternal basalt]

I do 15 everyday, just need 38k and there's 3 weeks, but whatever floats your boat

[atomic abyss]

unless you're running some yk2 enty impla/nakhi comp?

[left cedar]

Alr ty

[keen sable]

you get enough tickets to do 20 every day. or you can just do an extra 15 every few days

[left cedar]

Should i just do some extra to lvl up my ships? Like my nelson and hood?

Dosnt cost much oil

[rigid onyx]

what chapter of the campaign are you on

[keen sable]

the rewards are acceptable. cost limit, some rudder bp, parts, etc

[rigid onyx]

non-boosted rewards aren't great compared to w12+ but if you don't have access to oil cap stages it may be worth to farm

idk the efficiencies though

[keen sable]

coins are ok also. main issue is 20 runs simply isn't very much resource so you just go do something else

[storm heron]

it's not bad, definitely better than pre oil cap

[woven star]

yes w12-4 gives almost same exp and coins with lower oil but it's depends on your fleet and opportunities

[rigid onyx]

12-4 appears to be a lot better than unboosted hard stages but if you dont have oil cap campaign (aka you're new) looping the raid event seems decent

[woven star]

btw never saw this amount of coins in hard. this maybe with tickets? always near 80-100 coins

[stark quiver]

If I didn’t play raid event and my server is at 0% can I still get the missile

[storm heron]

[eternal basalt]

See the guy in #tech-support

[woven star]

as for me 15 hard while bonus + 5 tickets ex will be best choice

[forest palm]

just mindlessly run 15 hard till 48k, rinse hands of event, if you're new, and are sub world 11 continue running 15 hard till event ends kind of simple

[rigid onyx]

it's not clear cut that 5 bonus tickets ex is 'better' but in reality it really doesnt matter

you save like 1.5k oil over 3 weeks if you do 15+5hard instead of 5 ex

[eternal basalt]

Oh no, what will my US oil reserve do over 1k oil, I get 12k free over those 3 weeks

[woven star]

my server boize insane few days of event and it's 2.16% boss, I can't folow them so fast

[storm heron]

0magi

[eternal basalt]

You just had to do 1 battle

[vital meadow]

how good is the torpedo from the event? the 533mm mark 35?

[stark quiver]

its ok

[white agate]

we were ||4th or 5th i think||

[sweet delta]

The answer is no. Baited by @vale spindle pin saying any difficulty works

[white agate]

torpedo is meh, missle is yummy

[vital meadow]

which missle

[white agate]

the one you get via mail

[stark quiver]

revolution against sam

[vital meadow]

what ship you use the missle on?

[stark quiver]

ddg

[white agate]

ddg

[eternal basalt]

like that's the only one taking missiles

Saving for Fu

[white agate]

yep, and i am totally gonna waste special core to retro tai yuhan, i think her item should be in the shop right?

[vale spindle]

but did you deal any damage to the serverwide boss hp bar

[eternal basalt]

Custom so no

[sweet delta]

The boss takes CPts, not damage

I would assume you have to win a battle and get CPts in order to get mail

[white agate]

we can express boss hp bar in CPts

[sweet delta]

So simply attempting any MAIN difficulty is still not enough

[vale spindle]

you need to beat any main difficulty

[white agate]

woudn't the statement you need at least one contribution point before the boss gets killed be more general?

[vale spindle]

na cause you can get points from missions right

[eternal basalt]

Where?

[vale spindle]

oh im dum

[storm heron]

should've put a bigger warning

[keen sable]

typical gph you don't need to do events because <insert favorite farming place is better> strikes again. There should just be a giant sign on every event. Do the frakking event.

[vale spindle]

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

[white agate]

you can drown him tho||don't||

[vale spindle]

not my fault people have notifications disabled

Im pretty sure if you have notifs on the game alerts you saying hey x event is going on you should open the game

or is that hoyo i forgot

[sweet delta]

How much coin does it cost to craft 10 purple gear lab gear and get 40 pieces of purple gear from +0 to +10

[keen sable]

2760 times 40

purple gear lab varies

400-900

[mild crest]

where do these come from?

[carmine heath]

How do you unlock the arbiter fight? Do you have to clear the entirety of the central zone?

[white agate]

cruise pass and beginner missions

[atomic abyss]

Assuming you've done your opsi story
You just need to create a path to the middle iirc

[carmine heath]

What does this even mean (The opsi story has been done and it was peak)

[tame jungle]

unlock a zone that's adjacent to the center one

[soft raft]

Have you cleared the practice arbiters?

[carmine heath]

Oh you have to do those?

[soft raft]

you gotta do that before the actual arbiter fight unlocks

[atomic abyss]

Yes you have to do those first

Aren't those technically opsi story

[soft raft]

they're technically chapter 5 of OpSi yeah
but the monthly reset starts after Chapter 4

[carmine heath]

I thought opsi ended after the meta showdown

[naive salmon]

which banner should i pull

light heavy or special

[carmine heath]

one light a day

event ships arent worth it save your cubes

[naive salmon]

ok

[hollow gust]

what comps does Soyuz Nahk Fritz use in light?

[white agate]

does brest do more damage than ancho to surface ships? i suppose yes?

[stark quiver]

Vanguard?

[hollow gust]

Well gear and vanguard

[stark quiver]

Maybe z52,kaza,aurora

[white agate]

why elixir and not catapult?

[hollow gust]

They are the same thing

[white agate]

catapult has more hp, and is free

[hollow gust]

Doesn’t matter

[fickle parcel]

The easy clears aren't worth the oil right? The value stops at normal?

[white agate]

hard

[hollow gust]

Elixir is basically free too

[sweet delta]

how about 2 elixirs?

[fickle parcel]

Oh RIP, even normal isn't worth it?

[white agate]

15 hard +5 hard is the optimal route for oil/point route(ex will give more but those gearboxes not wotrth it)

[fickle parcel]

Sadge, also tyty.

[eternal basalt]

We need an Ryza rerun for that

[hollow gust]

Either way, ran similar comp ,still like Yorktown comp more

[stark quiver]

Ad1-less people

[hollow gust]

Not to mention it’s much easier to run Helena in yorky comp

[stark quiver]

Cuz of 3 uss?

[turbid marsh]

kear frees up a frontline ara XD

[hollow gust]

Kearsarge has always been about versatility

[stark quiver]

I keep forgetting about that

[turbid marsh]

well implacable damage is also lacking too, but pretty sure not that much

[hollow gust]

Just use Nahkimov

[shell cairn]

what are the cheesiest fleets I could use to destroy W15? it's been so long since I did those maps I forgot what they have. I'm missing 1 star from 15-3 figured now's a good time to get it over with

[nimble knoll]

This might be dumb of me to ask, but what Aircraft carrier has the most versatility?

[forest palm]

Aquila? kind of a hard one to give a definitive answer to

[storm heron]

there are sample fleets in /w15

[keen sable]

aquila probably but it's pretty meaningless. specialists are almost always better at the job

[rigid onyx]

fritz prob

[forest palm]

wouldn't call Fritz the most versatile, she has limited scope

[rigid onyx]

off healers aren't versatile, and fritz can be built to be top echelon campaign dps, light bossing DPS, and medium bossing dps

[storm heron]

imo the tier EX carriers

-eus

[stark quiver]

Ectl user spotted

[forest palm]

Aquila is much more than a secondary healer though

[hollow gust]

If fritz is versatile then amagi is even more,

[storm heron]

imagine not being able to preload and heal at the same time

[forest palm]

legitimately Aquila is one of the very few ships where there's a strong case to have 2 for campaign

[hollow gust]

Amagi can be PVP meme fleets, one of the top campaign CV, good in all armor types, easier to sync

[sweet delta]

Unicorn is the most versatile, she has 13 skins

[stark quiver]

I think the spotlight goes to ranger

[white agate]

wait, now that i think about it woudn't perseus fair better than unicorn in opsi due to more preloaded planes and fights lasting only 20-30 seconds?

[rigid onyx]

level 125 uni already nukes first wave with singular preload so it doesn't matter

[forest palm]

no Uni, and Percy perform for the most part the same in ops

[white agate]

hoped she could cut me 2s more

[sweet delta]

if you're considering only c3 or c5 safe zone farming, then perseus is indeed better than unicorn

[stark quiver]

Ranger with a saiun , 2 tenrais and a beacon can theoretically clear everything in game

[white agate]

with how much %

[stark quiver]

Impractical, so I never tried it

[rigid onyx]

you don't even need the gear in theory no

[dreamy blade]

ranger with cleveland and helena for vg

[forest palm]

[elfin hollow]

What is Rumey good at?

[carmine heath]

rumie is good at draining your will to have her mvp voice line play

[feral pebble]

has this spring fireworks party thing not started yet or im just missing it?

[carmine heath]

I think they recycled 2024 and just didnt bother to alter anything

This allegedly happened with the new years welcome graphic too

[storm heron]

campagn as a damage CV, or single target medium and light armor bossing

[soft raft]

If you hate her voice that much either just dont use her or mute your volume

[storm heron]

what does c3 have more again compared to c5 strat?

[white agate]

you do it more time so due to akashi spawn rate being the same for c1-c6 you get more akashi and more ap

[atomic abyss]

Do take note this is #gameplay-help
If you can't give a proper answer (or at least an attempt at one), please don't say anything or people may take you seriously

I mean

People may take that as a "she's only good for that, therefore not actually good in gameplay" or something

It's like how when we say say a ship is "good for waifu" the implication is that she's not good for anything else

[cunning bison]

admin ere to nuke but true tho this is all abt in-game elp

[warm trail]

any of these worth buying?

[eternal moth]

Kazagumo by a mile

[ivory pawn]

Kazagumo for ARA. If you’re not hurting for medals and lack gold subs might as well pick up U-96 too.

[warm trail]

thanks!

[eternal moth]

From a pure usability perspective, she's probably the single most important ship in medal rotation now, although she isn't the most important for a new player to get.

[warm trail]

why?

[atomic abyss]

To put it bluntly
Kazagumo is used a lot in operation siren as a buffer
Which is more a mid game thing

[white agate]

because kazagumo shines in mid to later game, in early game usually you have other prio

[atomic abyss]

Earlier on, you usually want SR backliners since those are your DPS carries

[eternal moth]

She fits really well into a CV fleet using any of Shinano/Haku/Amagi CV

[atomic abyss]

There's not much point buffing if there's not much DPS to buff

Or rather
The usefulness of a buffer/debuffer depends on who can make use of said buffs/debuffs

Early on you simply won't have anyone to make use of her buffs

[hallow mountain]

Who the hell should I give this to

[stark quiver]

a ddg

[hallow mountain]

The heck is that

[stark quiver]

retrofits of taiyuan,chang chun,an shan and the newest fu shun

[lucid hamlet]

missile destroyer

[white agate]

best missle for ddg

aka chineese dd

[lucid hamlet]

I have fu shun and tai yuan which one is priority

[white agate]

tai yuan is really good, if you can afford 1000 special core she is good

[stark quiver]

fu shun because shes free

[lucid hamlet]

i have both .-.

[white agate]

ddg are useful since you can use them for low oil cost farming in event

[stark quiver]

do you have tai yuan retrofitted yet?

[lucid hamlet]

no retrofit yet

[stark quiver]

have her item yet?

[hallow mountain]

Also who should I get here? I don't have any of them except Taihou

[lucid hamlet]

no but i can afford it

[atomic abyss]

The pins have a recommendation

[stark quiver]

if you havent max limit broken URs yet
id just go with fu shun, since her retro item is free rn

[hallow mountain]

So Yat Sen?

[atomic abyss]

Fu Shun first since you have the item yes

[atomic abyss]

Yep

[lucid hamlet]

free from where I dont have it yet

[stark quiver]

in like 3 days

[soft raft]

7th day of minigame

[lucid hamlet]

oh

[white agate]

btw i never understood, what does in particular make ddg the best for farming 1:1 fleets? is it because they have enough offense and low enough cost?

[stark quiver]

that is exactly why

[lucid hamlet]

for the modernization on laffey retrofit do I need another laffey or does bulin work

[soft raft]

either a dupe or a bullin works

[lucid hamlet]

laffey retro acquired

[white agate]

anyhow is there a pattern like last 2 pullable ur were cv and the one before 2 bb i think? so next is a ca?

[stark quiver]

no

[cobalt gate]

so is there any specific build in opsi where 1 fleet can get the most benefit from cross fleet?

[bright tusk]

anyone know the most good DDG to the less good DDG?

[stark quiver]

what the heck

[cobalt gate]

i keep forgetting, the one they gave out is the best missle right

the sy-1a right

ok have 2 of those, forgot if i missed any more

[soft raft]

you have all 2 currently in existence

[white agate]

literally my first retroed ddg was chang since i had only her

[cobalt gate]

now i wonder if i should buy more seals

[grave ivy]

Is there a best theme for dorm or is just visual? I wanna buy the port cafe theme

[soft raft]

It's primarily visual
there's comfort mechanics too but all furniture regardless of if they're placed in the dorm or not count towards it

[grave ivy]

Ok theres no problem then

[cobalt gate]

so for 15 aa is it just use 3 rainbow aa guns or we still have to increase range etc

[rigid onyx]

you can spam ur aa's if you have access

[cobalt gate]

gotcha

[languid reef]

is it still good to farm the event post getting 60k?

like for the farmable shits

[ivory pawn]

Nah. Washing Machine droprate's too low. Honestly, not even worth it to go that high tbh, most will probably stop at 48k or even 38k.

[next plover]

Hi are buggy or they are get the medal after event?

[agile furnace]

does cost limits also apply to submarine fleets?

[soft raft]

have you already tried force closing and relaunching the game?
could be a desync

[next plover]

Yes

[storm heron]

did that fix the problem?

[rain vine]

did you unlock the medal in the academy?

you have to manually add it to the trophies

[next plover]

Ah OK

[nimble knoll]

Is this cat good?

[forest palm]

Justice is never good, don't bother with Vanguard cats

[torn latch]

What is the best comp and best challenge to use for max score in Advanced event map?

[nimble knoll]

Should I +10 my +6 tenzan or Use Another Corsair for Yk2

What kind of DDs Can Use The Sy-1A?

[stark quiver]

ddgs

retrofitted fusun,chang chun, an shan, and tai yuan

[nimble knoll]

I see

[nimble knoll]

Also what Should i do?

[keen sable]

neither. and stop enhancing sus gear

[zinc cave]

stop at +6, not worth the resources

[keen sable]

is yorkii's helldiver +10?

[zinc cave]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[nimble knoll]

Yup

[keen sable]

long term tenzan is okayish but it may or may not be working great on hard raid

[rigid onyx]

You'd want another corsair in the 3rd slot for a bit

[keen sable]

they have a gold hellcat...

[nimble knoll]

Only +6 tho, not enough purple plane mats

[keen sable]

umm so why would you be able to +10 another purple corsair but not +10 a gold hellcat?

[sleek spade]

hey guys is the boss medium armor or heavy?

[zinc cave]

medium

[rigid onyx]

why does the flowchart have an shan > TY > fu shun

[sleek spade]

nice ty

[nimble knoll]

If I had the mats-

At the moment I only have 15 T3 Aircrafts parts..

Should i farm the events hm for parts?

[rigid onyx]

corsairs are fine if you're gatekept by purple plates

[keen sable]

yes you should use your 15 per day and all tickets

[zinc cave]

do your daily 15 for normal and hard

[nimble knoll]

Alright

[zinc cave]

easy also fine to do if ur low on t1/t2 parts

should be pushing through campaign and levelling otherwise

[elfin hollow]

How many wyvern do we need and can they stay at +10?

[stark quiver]

like 2-3

[soft raft]

they can stay at +10

[zinc cave]

as many as you like, like 2-3 is what people end up with
they're one of the rare torp bombers that have passive interception (the other being Br.810)
+10 is fine, not necessary to upgrade

[sweet delta]

Because that's roughly the order of usefulness

[rigid onyx]

since when was an shan better than ty

[sweet delta]

Why not?

An shan best for 1:1 oil, best for BB boss fleets outside of meta showdown.
Tai yuan best for meta showdown
Fu shun best for not much

[barren tapir]

armor break i assume

[rigid onyx]

tai yuan being worse than an shan for bb boss fleets is a new one

[vale spindle]

the difference shouldn't be massive if at all anyways

[barren tapir]

im of the opinion that they're all more or less fairly similar and serve largely similar purpose so retro the one you like most

[barren tapir]

why normal

[zinc cave]

still can give t3 parts

[rigid onyx]

tai yuan better than other 2 by a decent small but decent margin

[viscid swift]

that's really not a good reason to farm normal

[turbid marsh]

oh you dont farm for t3 parts...

[rigid onyx]

no idea about fu shun

[viscid swift]

you can get T3 parts starting for W6 in the MC but no one recs to farm below W9 for good reason

[barren tapir]

[turbid marsh]

oh, is ty ehp and damage a little bit superior than anshan? i didn't even bother with 125 taiyuan

[zinc cave]

theyre quite new, wouldnt have suggested it otherwise

[rigid onyx]

basically same ehp

[spring bolt]

ty is slightly higher in both ehp and dps than an shan

[zinc cave]

iirc tai yuan's barrage is all aimed so her damage is a bit higher than an shan

[leaden mountain]

can someone help me, when i open the game and try to click to start it, its making me do this but when i log in with my facebook this keeps popping up

[rigid onyx]

is there an updated barrage spreadsheet

looking to see if fu shun has reaim

[spring bolt]

tbh an shan's armor break is sus as 15s proc time... sync is quite bad, and 1:1 usage is more like uni+ddg

[vale spindle]

you need to create a yostar account now, then bind THAT yostar account to facebook / etc. again

[rigid onyx]

caring about 1:1 viability is crazy

[vale spindle]

check #tech-support for more information if you need further help

[sweet delta]

Even 1/3 uptime on armor break covers the DPS difference unless in showdown

[leaden mountain]

ty

[turbid marsh]

hmmm cn people also mentions that anshan is better in rdps and 1:1, but yes, taiyuan has more self damage and ehp than anshan. also taiyuan can fire 4 shots as higher rld in some scenario. i just copy what they said, not my words.

[viscid swift]

on the 1:1, having used Tai Yuan a lot for 1:1 at 120, I've honestley never felt the difference between her and a 125 An Shan

[vale spindle]

don't most UR BBs apply their own armor break too

[leaden mountain]

and how do i bind the yostar to the fb?

[viscid swift]

you don't

Facebook and Yostar account binds are seperate

[rigid onyx]

is fu shun the same barrage as TY or different

[vale spindle]

no you can bind it to facebook

[leaden mountain]

yea i was thinking that...

[zinc cave]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[quiet anchor]

what ur gear should i prio first from the lab

[viscid swift]

a Wyvern or two unless the soonish gear lab update changes things drastically

[sweet delta]

None of them do standard break

[vale spindle]

https://account.yo-star.com/user go to here, then once you login with your yostar account you can bind to all of these

[quiet anchor]

ok thanks

[leaden mountain]

alr ty

[vale spindle]

on this same page you can see which yostar games you have bound it too, make sure its your correct azur lane account

[zinc cave]

no thats just the bb ap gun armor break

[vale spindle]

[zinc cave]

musashi ingame skill says armor break but its not armor break

nj is the only one with armor break

[night marsh]

any way to autoplay opsi to click on chat propt instead of stucking there?

[vale spindle]

nope the most you can do is auto everything other than the ones where you have to select an option

[night marsh]

even with only 1 option

[vale spindle]

yes

[hallow mountain]

Is 12-4 a good stage to farm for tech research?

I finished doing it for Agir and I'm doing Kearsage next

[eternal moth]

Assuming you mean for XP, yes.

[hallow mountain]

Yeah that

[sharp echo]

If I read correctly the event until next month?

[viscid swift]

yes

[bold stream]

Hello all. I need some advice on my shipyard. I got roon, saint lois, fdg, avp, aegir, and anchorage already.

I am trying to up my ijn tech for hakuryuu since I can coin her after the update. I think it will take me quite a while to get the techs up.

Which one between hinden, felix, kearsage, halford and prinz should I go?

[viscid swift]

well you don't have any BPs for any of them and Ruppchrect is the only one you can coin

[bold stream]

I see.. so I will go for Prinz Rup? How is she being used rn?

[viscid swift]

her purpose is tech and for not letting free BPs go to waste

[bold stream]

I see. If she is just for tech maybe I should just get all IJN ships on the rearch?

[viscid swift]

that is also very much an option

[bold stream]

Thanks. Btw, what about harbin? With the chinese ships I got I can get her tech but is she of use?

[viscid swift]

probably not

[eternal moth]

Harbin's good, but there are a lot of newer ships that do her job around the same or better.

[stark quiver]

how to mvp control a backline ship in event hard mode

[bold stream]

Those are?

[eternal moth]

Unzen, Z52, Shimanto does better AA for a start

[rigid onyx]

why bring up aa

[eternal moth]

Similar damage IIRC, but Shimanto has better AA. If not then I'm remembering incorrectly

[rigid onyx]

harbin and shimanto both have mgm+1 and 2 torp mounts so they are somewhat similar in damage, and shimanto gaps harbin for aa, but harbin has preloads & somewhat unique torp timings

[bold stream]

I have z52.. i can not find unzen but shimanto is pr6 which mean I can not gold her..

[eternal moth]

Unzen was a UR, if you don't have her then don't worry about it.

[bold cove]

I just know that we can coin PR4 DR and catch up for PR6, im not focus on Pr6, which ship i should catch up between Shimanto and Felix?

[eternal moth]

Shimanto

[rigid onyx]

shimanto

[bold cove]

Okay thanks

[rigid onyx]

shimanto can be one of the best aa ships that also can extinguish burns making her a premier option for w15

felix is good but tank dd just isn't needed in fleetbuilding anywhere

[bold stream]

Do we have a list here of which ships has 2main gun mount or 2 Anti Air gun mount?

[proud turret]

Maxed her out, any suggestions in how to use her well? As in, as a tank, auxiliary or something else?

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure she's damage

[rigid onyx]

bayard is dps focused

[proud turret]

okie, thank you

[eternal moth]

It looks like FS5 Felix is about the same eHP as Ancho, but Ancho is much more consistent.

[rigid onyx]

ancho has a decent amount ehp more than felix fs5

[eternal moth]

Wait, I guess not. I don't know what this Z1 notation means

[rigid onyx]

buffed by z1 i assume

felix counts as z-class

[eternal moth]

Oh, right, that's actually paired with her, ok.

[bold stream]

So z1, z52 and felix is a team?

[shell willow]

for any real content, no

[eternal moth]

Personally I'd rather use Z46 instead of Felix, but I don't know who's actually higher damage.

[bold stream]

They get destroyed by planes even with 40 percent AA buff?

[eternal moth]

Z52 should be tanky enough

[dusty gulch]

Is Yorktown 2 a good flagship?

worse than enterprise?

[eternal moth]

You hardly ever want to use a CV for a flagship. It depends on what you're doing, though. If this is for an OpSi fleet, she's fine

[fickle hollow]

Thoughts on Barracuda ?the pierce one

[dusty gulch]

I was gonna use them with unicorn, but maybe i should make them boss fleet

[eternal moth]

What chapter are you doing?

[dusty gulch]

14

[eternal moth]

You're not doing chapter 14 with 3 carriers

[shell willow]

i checked and its only fp and eva buff, but even if it had aa theyd have not enough

[soft raft]

Have fun being annihilated by bulkier suicide boats with that setup

[dusty gulch]

idk if i should build yorktown 2 or finish haku/shinano. I basically have no other IJN tho.

[bold stream]

So this is wrong. Thanks!

[dusty gulch]

For BBs I have zwei 2, FDG, NJ,

[stark quiver]

haku doesnt take bulins
can mlb shinano with perma pity (dont pull for her)

[dusty gulch]

I have both MLB

[shell willow]

oh i did not realize she had an augment mb, still nowhere close to proper aa level

[storm heron]

the augment looks so busted

[dusty gulch]

Well, Shinano I'd have to use 1 bullin to MLB

[storm heron]

will z52 z1 z46 be a proper w15 lineup now?

[eternal moth]

FdG, Uni, YT2 should be a great back line for a mob fleet

[bold stream]

I was thinking it was so busted that maybe I can work with it for a vanguard team... As i generally do not have those super cool ships yet...

[dusty gulch]

haven't developed YT2. Was using saratoga.

[shell willow]

if augment cost wasnt criminally high i could try them, but haku is eating all my coins rn

[stark quiver]

also pls

[wind hazel]

let them fire fast, remove gun from vanguard

[eternal moth]

I don't even worry about MVP control

[storm heron]

cant u just brick the main gun/ planes

[stark quiver]

i guess only nakh gets gear

[vale spindle]

yes cause their AA is so bad that 40% on top of it makes it mediocre

[dusty gulch]

I thought ppl were using amag(CV)/haku/shinano comp to destroy bosses? Or not so much chapter missions?

[vale spindle]

not in main story

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's a thing for OpSi and META fights, not campaign

[sweet delta]

Z52 has the best AA of all Z's, and I heard someone beat 15-4 with all Z's without Z52

[vale spindle]

i missed z52 in their message

[dusty gulch]

So for chapter 14/15 3BB boss + BB/cvl/cv setup is good?

[eternal moth]

No

[dusty gulch]

Or CVs on boss fleet?

[eternal moth]

You still want CVs for screen clearing

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[soft raft]

And plane intercept

[main patrol]

What's a good team for ex stage for event?

[wind hazel]

1bb 2cv still standard

[dusty gulch]

3BB boss fleets suck then?

[eternal moth]

For campaign, yes. For OpSi it's fine

[viscid swift]

for campaign yes

[soft raft]

If you mean EX difficulty, whatever manages to kill it
If you mean the custom challenge, then that varies a bit more

[main patrol]

EX difficulty yep. What ships good for dmg?

[dusty gulch]

So FDG/UNI/Saratoga + Zwei2/NJ/ ENT I'm g2g? Or zwei2/haku/shinano better for boss?

[main patrol]

XD, what teams y'all using?

[eternal moth]

Either one of those should be fine for chapter 14

[dusty gulch]

What do people bring with kearsarge/yorktown 2? whatever they need basically? slow/heal/carrier dps?

+enterprise good boss setup?

[dusty gulch]

or maybe the synergy isn't worth it

[rigid onyx]

kear/yorkii is primarily a combo for light armor bossing so usually you bring 3rd cv (implac if you need a stop, fritz, nakh, enty, and shangri-la), 3rd uss ship (possible laffii tank), and aurora

[wind hazel]

that was an overkill for ex (cause it's for custom)

[rigid onyx]

kear isn't exactly suited towards high chapters of campaign so you dont see kear yorkii there

[main patrol]

Ty, ill try it out. BTW how'd u gear rumey?

[wind hazel]

la9+bf109g

[main patrol]

[wind hazel]

if you wanna braindead it, just put 3 UR bb with ply+helena

[main patrol]

Been playing this game for several years now and I still dunno which ships are for what or have good synergy between themselves for the UR and SR shipgirls

So are BBs or CVs better for events like these with boss focus?

[viscid swift]

it depends as usual

[stark quiver]

usually, cvs have a higher damage cieling compared to bbs, but at the same time, the boss could have some skills that neuter cv damage or gimmciks that perfer bbs

[keen sable]

they both work with plenty of overhead

[barren tapir]

i lowkey feel like it COULD work but it simply wouldnt ever be your go-to, theres much better ships as options so the only reason to use any kind of Z fleet is for funzies. with z52 now at least the AA isnt too bad.

[barren tapir]

i mean

z52 with z1 reaches about 90% of sandy AA iirc. z46 is no slouch in AA (not great but far from terrible) there are options that can possibly work it'd just be "why bother"

[zenith peak]

Does using two steam catapults stack with each other?

[inner delta]

ya

[stark quiver]

the avi stacks yes

[inner delta]

its only skill that is similar doesn't go twice, stat stack

[zenith peak]

ight, thx

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt call 260 AA and 170% x1 particularly bad...not great but not terrible

felix is bad aa but i would probably not use her in ch15 regardless with or without z1 kek, z46 or z47 sound like they could work if you built a fleet around them though. as in like for fun

[shell willow]

it was originally felix i think who has like 80% eff gun

[barren tapir]

yeah felix is shit in that comp, shes just redundant when z52 exists unfortunately

and z52 with z1 can absolutely tank the world, it should shoot her up to 150%+ ehp easily

mind you i could see z52 z1 felix wreck ch14 pretty nicely

[eager mulch]

what armour is the ex boss

asking for a friend

[barren tapir]

medium iirc

[late flame]

medium, see pinned

[eager mulch]

I won’t see pinned thank you

[rigid onyx]

z52 z1 isnt the worst meme ever but it's still a meme

felix is kinda wasted if she isn't main tank & z52 is already as good a main tank as her

[novel condor]

wait z52 can main tank?

[stark quiver]

to a certain extent yes

[rigid onyx]

she isn't the tankiest but she's ~azuma/kron tier, plus has a self heal for mobbing

[elfin hollow]

What is the main concern in W14? ASW?

[novel condor]

interesting, need to test that out

[elfin hollow]

Do I need to stack ASW gear on DDs?

[eternal moth]

Only if you really need ASW

[rain vine]

1 hedgehog in vanguard + asw plane aux on unicorn is good enough

[novel condor]

They usually come wit asw

[sharp socket]

the enemy planes in w15 arent taking damage when im at like 5 fps

any way to fix this cause im getting destroyed by lag

[eternal moth]

Buy a better phone

[sharp socket]

im playing on bluestacks

[wind hazel]

try other emulator

[rigid onyx]

w14 main concern is suicide boats, asw, and concealment mechanics

[eternal moth]

What are your performance settings?

Set at least 4 cores and 4GB RAM if it's lower

[sharp socket]

this?

[eternal moth]

What does Performance show?

[stark quiver]

bluestacks in 2025

[stark quiver]

just use mumu

i mean youre using low memory

[desert tapir]

One of my mails titled in another language in game, is this normal?

[sharp socket]

so i bump it to high performance?

ill try that and see if it works

[stark quiver]

the one with the missile? yea everyone got the same

[stark quiver]

in my experience, bs is like horribly optimized for my pc, so i switched to mumu

[desert tapir]

thank you

[sharp socket]

ok the planes are dying properly now
...and so is my vg taking alot more damage but its working normally at least ty

[stark quiver]

didnt sushi switch from ld to mumu

also cel, if you wnna make your w15 a living hell, try using now.gg on browser

[late flame]

still dont like mumu since it likes to crash in 3d dorm but otherwise its superior to bs all round

[eternal moth]

Everything crashes in 3d dorm though

[late flame]

there is that i suppose. i've learnt only to do 3d dorm things after daily reset
(instead of randomly checking it out after finishing sorties)

[bold stream]

Hello sam. According to wiki z52, z1, z46, z47 has some of the best DD AA stat at 250+

[rigid onyx]

you can't just look at ship's raw stats

look at aa efficiencies and skills as well

z52 is good yes

z46 decent aa as well

[bold stream]

Hello aurora. I was kinda trying to circumvent needing sandy retro.. since since I have z52..

[rigid onyx]

you don't 'need' to retro sandy atm

assuming you're new

[sweet delta]

Hello Penguin. Keep farming chapter 12 until you can afford Sandy Retro. She's Number One.

[rigid onyx]

and sandy's aa capabilities are almost incomparable to z52

[bold stream]

I am at w13 atm... Playing since november..

[bold stream]

I guess this is less detour since I am likely to need her late game?

[vale spindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit?gid=1469188580#gid=1469188580

i was wrong earlier because i forgot z52 has good AA, so I am sorry about that
however the others are still very mediocre to bad

[wind hazel]

what is 150gun

[vale spindle]

single 150

[rigid onyx]

shimanto gun

[vale spindle]

oh right my bad

[bold stream]

Is this only for AAdmg?

[storm heron]

it's aa alpha damage calculator

[nimble knoll]

Where should I use my High cost thingys?

[keen owl]

Is Shimanto Gun's Ghost AA good?

[bold stream]

So double AA mount doesnt affect the dmg as much as I thought...

[rigid onyx]

why is z52 calc'd with twin100 over 113

[stark quiver]

whenever u dont have enough time to grind

[keen owl]

Can Z52 use CL gun?

[rigid onyx]

even if she could dd guns are better

[storm heron]

yes though I don't think you should use that if possible

[knotty sleet]

why wyvern better stay at +10?

[rigid onyx]

unless there are extenuating circumstances like felix

[keen owl]

Arent CL guns gets a buff or something

[stark quiver]

expensive, not a useful +13
since you only rly use it in campaign

unless youre weird and wanna run a funny pvp fleet

[rigid onyx]

there's the cl shimanto gun that gives you an aa ghost gun, but it would be such a waste on a ship with the damage potentional of z52

[storm heron]

campaign breakpoint is easier than meta yeah

[knotty sleet]

i see interesting thanks

[wind hazel]

yeah why twin100, why not 113

[knotty sleet]

what if i already have +13, cannot reset right?

[stark quiver]

no

unless you like scrap it or some, which is a really bad idea