gameplay-help

[keen sable]

5 mob

[cobalt gate]

ouch

i'm suprised graph is listed higher on tier list than formidable

[dreamy blade]

well neither are particularly great and formidable is more focused on bossing while the tier list is focused on campaign

[nimble knoll]

Welp.. Now I'm out of oil.. Time to wait

[keen sable]

time to low cost

[granite rain]

Is it more important I get Saratoga or San Diego's UA first?

[viscid swift]

San Diego's

[zinc hornet]

anyone know why auto repeat always uses more oil than it says it will?

[keen sable]

essex over saratoga and then you don't have to worry about it

[viscid swift]

probably having to do extra fights because mobs are blocking the path to the boss

[weary gust]

Do you have autocall subs on?

[zinc hornet]

yes that would do it

[granite rain]

5head

[zinc hornet]

i feel like the preview oil qty should account for that considering it's a setting you apply before starting the auto-repeat

[keen sable]

whether a sub can even do anything is rng

[zinc hornet]

oh true

[viscid swift]

well subs aren't always going to be in range

[zinc hornet]

yep silly me

[granite rain]

So do I not even bother retroing Saratoga? I thought she was my best mob carrier except Unicorn

[keen sable]

fritz is your best mob carrier

[untold beacon]

Should i buy that UR plane ?

[granite rain]

Yes

[stark quiver]

theres always that guy with the super reaction

[granite rain]

Get the blueprints for the F6F, too, if you can afford it

[zinc hornet]

whats prio after ad-1 and f6f?

[granite rain]

Check the first pin in this channel

[keen sable]

tickets kind of at the same level. you really want them all. it's not healthy to prioritize

[zinc hornet]

👍

done

[granite rain]

Nice, have you pulled Hornet?

[zinc hornet]

map drop

[granite rain]

Screw you and congrats

[storm heron]

[zinc hornet]

tytyty I'm a lucky fella sometimes

[granite rain]

Happy for you, brother

[zinc hornet]

thank u c: also got enough for hvar after buying the BPs

[nimble knoll]

Should I LB Laffey? (I would be using my last 2 bulins)

[granite rain]

Nice. If you can spare the oil it's not a bad idea to farm for more. More planes is more good

[atomic abyss]

Assuming your backliners don't need them more

[zinc hornet]

yeah I've got 190 oil atm. waiting for the free 4k in a few hours, and for commissions to finish

[nimble knoll]

My Uni Is Already Maxed LB, I'm tryna use Zeppelin and VV is Just there

[keen sable]

yes because you can always guild shop cope on the others

[atomic abyss]

Why are you using zeppelin

[granite rain]

Free 4k?

[keen sable]

anyways three more bulins incoming soon

[nimble knoll]

Idk

[atomic abyss]

Don't then

[zinc hornet]

weekly

[granite rain]

Ah I forgot, mb

[zinc hornet]

u silly goose

[granite rain]

Jesus, it's Sunday

[zinc hornet]

Monday nearly noon here

daily resets and maintenance are at 6pm which means i lose an entire evening to maintenance

[granite rain]

Luckily mine come right at midngiht

[atomic abyss]

#al-general

[zinc hornet]

true, sorry

is there an approximate way to tell the relative difficulty between regular and hard mode main stages? for example if u can pass 13-4 what hard mode would i realistically be able to pass?

[keen sable]

wiki

[weary gust]

About one world higher.

[storm heron]

13-4 > 12-4 hm

[atomic abyss]

13-4 would probably be 12-4H

13-4H is a bit harder

[worldly pewter]

aside from the cursed stat req

[storm heron]

probably 15-4 > 13-4 hm > 15-2

[stark quiver]

my fleets cant auto 13-3h

[nimble knoll]

Should I Use Nelson Or Graf Zeppelin?

[keen sable]

I don't think 12-4H is comparable at all. 13 normal or hard will wreck weak mob fleets.

[nimble knoll]

[atomic abyss]

Why GZ

[worldly pewter]

most likely dock is limited in options

[nimble knoll]

[atomic abyss]

The current fleet is Nelson VV Uni

I don't see how GZ would be an improvement

[turbid marsh]

i think he switched like... several hours ago

[atomic abyss]

If it was hornet 2 maybe a discussion can be had

GZ without Aug is cope af

[nimble knoll]

Nope, just now

[atomic abyss]

A far worse Saratoga

[keen sable]

nelson without retro is even more cope af is it?

[nimble knoll]

Also when can I start using Yorktown II?

[atomic abyss]

When she's max stars

Nelson doesn't use gold bulins, that's a huge factor in her favour

[granite rain]

BTW I never figured out whether I should be retroing Sara? I know Fritz goes in mob for now to level, but surely she doesn't stay there? Her abilities seem like boss abilities to me, at least

[civic crag]

i have 2 wyvern but they on unicorn and indep do i make one more for amagi

[atomic abyss]

You typically save UR CVs for boss if you have few

[turbid marsh]

oh my bad, i thought i saw you switching like a few hours ago

[atomic abyss]

You should retro Sara if you intend to use her

[atomic abyss]

Low priority

[nimble knoll]

I was just asking who to use, I kept using Nelson for sometime before I switched rn

[atomic abyss]

3rd wyvern is low priority compared to the 2nd

[granite rain]

Is she better for my mob fleet than Essex?

[keen sable]

what hard mode are you doing?

[granite rain]

This is my stuff

[nimble knoll]

Non, I'm farming the event

[keen sable]

nuff said

[atomic abyss]

Saratoga with augment and retro is stronger than essex outside anti air

[granite rain]

Okay, which retro San Diego should make up for. Thanks for the help

[keen sable]

doing hard mode gives you event points...

way more points than doing event does...

[granite rain]

The event also has its own hard mode

[nimble knoll]

I'm just auto'ing b-1

[keen sable]

also to just throw away 3x core data smh

[stark quiver]

are there any meta light comps that use more than 5 hvars

[nimble knoll]

for what?

[granite rain]

He's saying you should be doing your 3 hard mode stages every day especially becauyse there is a 3x core event going on

[storm heron]

imo 3rd wyvern are just as good as the 2nd one, and you usually only start getting diminishing returns by the 4th

[atomic abyss]

No
Cos the meta ones will use Kearsage
Meaning your max is 1+2+2

Tho uh

Some tests have shown that kears may not even be the best at light anymore for high tech...

[worldly pewter]

i thought 3 is good enough for w15 and 4 is qol but also i heard a mixture with breguet is better

[stark quiver]

yk2,fritz,nakh

[civic crag]

any other torp bombers than wyvern to put on amagi

[atomic abyss]

No, it's soy

[nimble knoll]

Oh, All I can do rn is 1-1 to 1-4 and 3-1 to 3-4 (even though I can't do 3-1 and 3-4 cuz low I don't have enough built ships that's good to use on it)

[stark quiver]

oh thats even better

[atomic abyss]

Apparently, quyet did cook successfully for once

[civic crag]

what other torp bombers on amagi gang

[weary gust]

With what?

[granite rain]

The strength of your ships mostly comes from Max Limit Breaking them. An MLB Rare will be stronger than a non MLB SSR

[sweet delta]

With someone else's recipe

[atomic abyss]

4 strike soyuz nakh fritz beats 4 strike kear yorkii fritz for 80s battles against light, even when the vanguard is the same eldridge aurora z52 for both

[turbid marsh]

according to a bilibili-er? i follow, soy nakh beats kear yk2 with z52 helena aurora

[keen sable]

🍿

[atomic abyss]

The scary part is that it's without Tash

What kind of crack is Soyuz on, idk

[stark quiver]

converging ones for bossing

[nimble knoll]

I'll show u what I mean later, I'm tryna 3 star 2-2 rn

[storm heron]

🍿

[stark quiver]

i was js wondering if i should grind out a 6th hvar

[atomic abyss]

The issue is that the average player ain't gonna have that much tech

[stark quiver]

and a 2nd ad1

[sweet delta]

Are you gonna +13 even five hvars?

By the way, bf109g has a slightly faster reload than hvarcat

[keen sable]

you don't need to fill both fleets and this is one area where gz comes into play. btw always have yorkii in your other fleet and for hard mode as long as your levels support it while you are one fleeting.

[atomic abyss]

4 strike CVs aren't very viable to most players so

[stark quiver]

quyet used 41 rld for cv yea?

[atomic abyss]

That is max CV rld

[stark quiver]

would it change a lot if im missing 1 rld

[keen sable]

are you oathed?

[storm heron]

houshou moment

[stark quiver]

oh yea and did quyet test in meta or harb

[nimble knoll]

Like this?

[turbid marsh]

i think if oathed, i think minimum requirement is like... 37 or something for 4 strike. correct me if im wrong

[stark quiver]

bro did not see yk2

[keen sable]

yes, it's fine. you want yorkii for her cross fleet

[storm heron]

can ad-1 four strike meta

[nimble knoll]

How bout smth like this?

[keen sable]

the original was fine

just don't actively use the fleet

[sweet delta]

If you grief everything else then yes

[granite rain]

Should I prio fire rate or damage on San Diego AA?

[keen sable]

that's not a valid fleet btw. you must have a vanguard so just put it back to og

[stark quiver]

is it better to grind affinity in d3 or 12-4

[storm heron]

looks like it's gonna unsync a bit faster oof nvm it's not CM

[still nest]

Where to put my extra skyraider here? It's +10 and for OpSi

Medium armor

[dreamy blade]

sandys barrage is strong but also bugged(maybe sorta) to not fire if your fr is too high

[sweet delta]

They said AA, but good information

[stark quiver]

ig its time to oath nakh

[granite rain]

Okay, do you rec. the gold roomba or twin 76 on her?

[sweet delta]

Twin 76 from gear lab is not worth crafting or even using usually

[keen sable]

turns out the choice isn't rainbow, sexy, or roomba

[storm heron]

seems like it's for the META, since 4 strike for harby should be much easier with more than 40 extra rld and not giving up anything like in the video where ykII gave up on db

[dreamy blade]

whoops but yes dmg > fr goes for her AA gun too so roomba

[granite rain]

I actually have no idea how I got this thing. I haven't made anything in gear lab as far as I know

[keen sable]

inb4 🐳 box

[sweet delta]

Then you chose it from the paid pack, which was also not a good choice

[granite rain]

LOL nice, might as well have messed something else up

[sweet delta]

Put it on your vanguard ship with the worst AA I guess

[granite rain]

For anyone looking to clown on me, I also chose Marco Polo from the blueprint pack in shop over Anchorage

[nimble knoll]

Is the Hunting Bow The Good For Uni?

[granite rain]

I use scepter

[storm heron]

scepter most of the time, bow only on places like w13 and w15

[keen sable]

but uhh...uni doesn't do anything

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[nimble knoll]

[storm heron]

by that he means that you should always prioritize other equips over augments

[keen sable]

nah i mean that's not a retro uni. but i suppose there's literally no one else to aug

[dreamy blade]

dont even bother crafting non-unique augs that early

[nimble knoll]

I see

[keen sable]

day 4 retro uni would be pretty impressive

especially for not doing hard mode

you want to do 3-4H btw

[nimble knoll]

I need More Blue T1 Aircraft retrofit blueprints

[keen sable]

uni retro bp have the highest priority

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[nimble knoll]

Here?

[keen sable]

yes

[nimble knoll]

My Zeppelin Ain't Built For This- (She's only level 14-)

[shut scaffold]

Any idea to get more t4 golden aircraft part?

[soft raft]

OpSi and occasionally from guild shop

[nimble knoll]

My GZ is only level 14.. I don't think she's built for 3-4..

[keen sable]

can you clear it? and uhh don't fight 3* aviation nodes

[nimble knoll]

I'll try to clear, and I won't fight the carriers

[nimble knoll]

I should go for the boss as soon as possible right?

[keen sable]

yes. do not kill all enemies

[nimble knoll]

Cleared

[hallow mountain]

Is this good for Enty?

[stark quiver]

well depends

[rigid onyx]

Good planes are uniquely good on enty

[keen sable]

against light enemies

[hallow mountain]

Damn ok

[nimble knoll]

I should try and get Modernization on Uni as soon as possible?

[keen sable]

yes

[hallow mountain]

This was the other plane I'm using on her

[keen sable]

you only need 11 gold retro bp so don't overdo it too much

[hallow mountain]

Idk which one is better

[atomic abyss]

the right is shit

the left isnt for campaign but is better

[hallow mountain]

Damn

[atomic abyss]

use the SB2C helldiver on campaign, if you lack the tenrai

[robust onyx]

Purple helldiver

[hallow mountain]

The purple helldiver is better??

[robust onyx]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

always has been

[stark quiver]

for campaign yes

[keen sable]

than btd always

[hallow mountain]

This is the rest of my gear anyway so there's not much choice

[atomic abyss]

you have 9 helldivers

[hallow mountain]

Damn I do

[atomic abyss]

and all of them are better than any of the gold dive bombers you are using

[hallow mountain]

Wtf

What about the rainbow one I just got

[soft raft]

It's like the 2nd-3rd best DB in the entire game

[hallow mountain]

Damn ok

So should I just give every CV the Helldivers?

[sharp socket]

every DB slot yes

[atomic abyss]

if they can use it, yeah they probably should outside of opsi bossing

[nimble knoll]

I used up all my hard mode fights..

[keen sable]

great, don't forget to collect your event points for doing hard mode

[nimble knoll]

Where again?

[keen sable]

and you should be trying to do all the daily missions

[sharp socket]

are CtA frames unobtainable after the event is over and doesnt rerun again

[keen sable]

Missions > Daily

[nimble knoll]

I completed them all

If I hadn't spent a lot on Gold Tech Boxes And Two Tickets I Could've gotten the plane sooner..

[keen sable]

you're fine. like i said 4000 points is easy

[nimble knoll]

I don't think I can get Hornet II Anyways, I'll just go for the plane

[keen sable]

you should be pulling in 1600+ a day before farming

[soft raft]

they are avaliable in both the intial run and the rerun
WA is where they go poof

[nimble knoll]

Should I join a guild or just keep using the Public one?

Okei

Welp, I don't have anything else to do.. So I'll just wait for the new day

[keen sable]

collected all weeklies too?

[rose cosmos]

Bruh.... This is the shittiest one yet lol

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[keen sable]

and actually that was 2 minutes before nightly coms so check your coms also

then you can go

[rigid onyx]

Is sp worth for hvar grinding

[forest palm]

may as well

[barren tapir]

if you can do it as low oil as d3 then yes (probably)

[uncut horizon]

I did at least 50 sorties on D3, and I only have 14 prints of this plane. What on earth is happening 😭

[storm heron]

lowest I can do is 180 with uni anshan amagi guam

[slow fox]

180% eHP is pretty high

[storm heron]

so not so bad compared to 150 or 157 from D3

[rigid onyx]

drop rate is about .14prints/sortie

[barren tapir]

if it is 50 you have 0.28 and should be uber grateful

[storm heron]

I think they got 4 prints...

4/50 = 8% 💀

[barren tapir]

oh well then my condolences

[frozen inlet]

Do i mlb z52?

[barren tapir]

also much more believable

[atomic abyss]

rumey first

z52 shd be lower prio for that dock

[frozen inlet]

whats the prio order?

[barren tapir]

imo rumey cos she's closer then maybe z52

[soft raft]

Prob like Rumey > Shinano > Yk2 > NJ == UvH > Z52 > Shimakaze

[stark quiver]

bad luck/rng

[rose cosmos]

Mine is 173 for D3, how do I decrease it btw

[turbid marsh]

i think should stop at rumey, shinano and save bulins. ask again when feb UR arrives.

[elfin hollow]

Lacking 10 bars of damage for Arbiter Hard. Is there a way to bypass the add or you have to kill it

[storm heron]

just go to the https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1326966318184005684, we have plenty of sample fleets and people to help

[elfin hollow]

Wait Temperance is Light armor?

[soft raft]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Damn I don't have that good light armor equips

[stark quiver]

mk6
bfg

[elfin hollow]

Is the add also light armor?

[soft raft]

406mk6 for BB fleet
And the Bf109g works fine

After all it's what we had before HVAR hellcat

[stark quiver]

the jellyfish?

[storm heron]

I think the ad-1

[soft raft]

It is med
But the main focus is on temperance herself

[elfin hollow]

The add tanks for quite some time, at least on auto all the shots goes there first

[storm heron]

I never know that is an add

[stark quiver]

jellyfish

[stark quiver]

you have to kill it,
unless you one strike harby

[elfin hollow]

Ok I'll try adding more light armor equips. is mk6 really good enough?

[wind hazel]

mk7 is better, but mk6 is what everyone has

[nimble knoll]

Yup

I completed all the weeklies in a day or two lmao-

[grizzled sundial]

Kron now added to permanent pool , but where can i find her gun ? It not in shop or gear lab .

[soft raft]

it will be added sometime later
they do this with event gear in general when their events get archived

[granite rain]

I'm very new, at 110 pulls and no Yk2. Do I use the cubes to keep going?

Only other URs are Fritz and Z52

[viscid swift]

I would continue yeah

[barren tapir]

sunk cost time yeah id keep going

[jolly holly]

are the hvar drops actually only 0.14/run?? I got 57 and I have 73k points

[undone plover]

well was that 57 farmed or including shop and milestone?

[jolly holly]

no, I have 3 rn

so 57 form D3 alone

[undone plover]

well 73k event points is like 350 runs
so 57/350 is sth around 16%

[barren tapir]

assuming 300-350 runs, thats like 0.16-0.18 which is lucky but not out of standard deviations

2 standard deviations (i think) ranges 11% to 18%

95% CI thingy.

[jolly holly]

ohh wait I was calculating it as 360 per run cuz i forgot I had the 2x thing on

[barren tapir]

anyway the rate is closer to 0.15

[jolly holly]

ok so i should be good if I get 1 more? or is 3 enough

[undone plover]

how much oil u have?

[jolly holly]

with mail reserves about 80k more

[undone plover]

most ppl are farming 3-5 if they are willing to grind

[dusky narwhal]

So I have been farming the event too much, how do I spend a lot of coins?

[barren tapir]

you got plenty oil and some time so it's upto you, only 2 is "necessary" and going over 5 is kinda overkill

[undone plover]

limit break ships
awaken ships
retrofit stuff
upgrade gear
buy cat boxes

[barren tapir]

coin research ships
invest in research

[humble summit]

what is this?

[undone plover]

and research and shipyard but that should be done anyway even if u dont have coin

[jolly holly]

okay thanks!!

[barren tapir]

estimated droprate of gold gear blueprints

[humble summit]

any specifics? or just any

[barren tapir]

it's from a different event but generally speaking all events have more or less proven to follow those rates

[humble summit]

ah

[barren tapir]

about 1.5% from elite, about 6.5% from boss with 50% chance for a second bp from boss

[humble summit]

i feel like the exchange for this dr print is not that worth it since its till s5 ( im broke and no oil to farm pts)

[barren tapir]

[humble summit]

no worries i will have enuf prints for them

[barren tapir]

why no brest emoji

[storm heron]

I mean it depends, worth for ply though definitely

[barren tapir]

but yeah if u finished pr4/pr5 can skip. altho protocore gud

[humble summit]

how much prints for max dev?

[barren tapir]

also can save for ply fs5 eventually™️

[humble summit]

agree

[barren tapir]

513 i think

[dusky narwhal]

I forget but these are pretty good right?

[viscid swift]

513 for DRs

[storm heron]

it's not like you can't get that many points in this event, heck you're actually encourage to spend all your oils

[humble summit]

but i do not have the pts for those prints

[humble summit]

is farming d3 viable?

[storm heron]

like either you farm the event as much as possible or you offline if this is ur first ykII event

[barren tapir]

i bought out basically the entire shop besides horn2s

[humble summit]

how

[barren tapir]

hvar farm

[humble summit]

whats hvar

[barren tapir]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR-Mounted)

[stark quiver]

Is it ever worth to whale for oil to grind

[dusky narwhal]

good anti light fighter that's only in this event for the moment

[humble summit]

i mean u farming for this plane?

[barren tapir]

worth is subjective depending how big a whale you are so

[humble summit]

where is ur oil coming from

[dusky narwhal]

personally I would just wait, tomorrow we get a free 4k oil

[barren tapir]

i mean for almost all people i say no but if you're like capable of spending 2k+ per month on the game...why not

[storm heron]

I mean I don't even spend half of my reservoirs so it kinda sux that I whaled for oil

[quartz jungle]

Stockpile from earlier + Mail oil

[barren tapir]

lemme find my pre-event calc

[humble summit]

im stockpiling my mail oil

[humble summit]

do u have a low oil fleet?

[quartz jungle]

How much do you have

[humble summit]

139k

[storm heron]

but yea whaling for oil definitely depends on your financial situation, if you don't even work it is most likely unjustified spending money for oil

[quartz jungle]

Use it then

[dusky narwhal]

seems about right

[storm heron]

bro with 139k you can leave this event with 70k and have 5 hvars in total

[humble summit]

what is the 1k

[barren tapir]

entering with 20k was done by not spending oil at 12k (my cap) starting from ~12hr before maint, built it to 13k+ with comms, bought 5k oil from rumey shop to 18k+, overnight comms got me to just over 20k after maint.

[dusky narwhal]

I spend 60k and have 3, one is guranteed

[storm heron]

the 500 x2 you get from 3 starring A1 and B1

[barren tapir]

500 from 3* c1, 500 from 3* d1, technically shouldnt count since that kinda just refunds oil spent to 3* stuff

[humble summit]

i have 2hell cat

[storm heron]

it's literally one of the best time to spend your mail oil

[barren tapir]

my fleet range from 183 to 201 oil ish (i havent recalced since adding sandy to lvl her tbh)

[humble summit]

mine is 267 oil 💀

[barren tapir]

whatever indep+momo, uni+sandy, aquila+nana cost with a full boss fleet ig

[storm heron]

I wouldn't encourage newbs who lacks oil to tryhard and stress this event, but with that amount of oil you'd want to stress out on an event eventually anyways

[humble summit]

is it due to the gold plane?

[barren tapir]

yes

[storm heron]

come join the culthttps://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1326966318184005684

[barren tapir]

tho you dont have to go hard, getting 1 from drops is enough. more is nice

[stark quiver]

grind for tech*

[humble summit]

ok leme grind to 4 of dem planes and i call it a success (2 days left wtf)

i am grinding levels for my ships and subs in the mean time, good idea? (basically putting them thru event)

[storm heron]

you have 3 x24 hours left plus some hours today if you're playing in EN server

[storm heron]

sure if you wanna trade oil for exp, you could save oil with lowcost fleet but you definitely gain exp by full fleeting

[humble summit]

i dont have low oil fleet 💀

[barren tapir]

[quartz jungle]

Then just level normally

[dusky narwhal]

there was a google sheets with info on W15 ships does anyone have that link??

[barren tapir]

/ch15

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[barren tapir]

sigh i suck

[dusky narwhal]

thanks

[sweet delta]

whose idea was it to call them worlds instead of chapters like the game does

[bright tusk]

Is montpelier w augment > seattle fs5?

[atomic abyss]

Pretty sure that's a no

[storm heron]

seems like seattle still win a little bit since she's C in w15 compared to monty's D

[granite rain]

Is Mainz a good front vanguard replacement for portland retro?

[storm heron]

very tiny win though, I don't think there's really much difference between them

[storm heron]

maxed mainz? should be

[atomic abyss]

As a DPS yes
As a tank nah

[granite rain]

So sortie her back for the dps buildup skill?

[soft raft]

off-tank is where you'd put her 99% of the time anyways

[granite rain]

Got it

[storm heron]

hmm seems like you don't have her fatesim, you can't replace portland's front line

but yeah seems fine as a dps

I have a bad feeling about this

[sweet delta]

What's Mainz ehp

[storm heron]

103% after fatesim, 92% before

[atomic abyss]

Pretty sure Mainz is ever so slightly tankier yeah

But she's primarily a DPS to begin with

[storm heron]

oh wow I'm kinda right

[cobalt gate]

haveing 2 cats with fire both stack right

[storm heron]

flame? yes

[cobalt gate]

wonder how much of a difference since i only have 1

[stark quiver]

3%

[fickle hollow]

Shinano is good for what type of content? Light/Medium/Heavy?

[stark quiver]

best for heavy
above average for light and medium

[sweet delta]

Medium heavy boss, amagi or haku buffing

Decent for campaign

[fickle hollow]

then my build is wrong

[stark quiver]

very

[fickle hollow]

[sweet delta]

That build is wrong for basically all CVs, because the fighter and TB are fine for campaign but the skyraider is for light and medium bosses

[fickle hollow]

whom should i mlb for Agir development ?

[cobalt gate]

you mean the dossier meta?

[storm heron]

I think they are like choosing who to mlb

[fickle hollow]

for iron blood points

[cobalt gate]

oh my bad thought of a different ship

[fickle hollow]

yes

[turbid marsh]

then ofc its fritz for more points.

[storm heron]

I like z52 more because you can just use BB for light, but then there's no light armor BB in the picture

so most likely rumey's gonna be the answer for this one

[fickle hollow]

[storm heron]

it's the one who fix your problem with light and probably medium armor bosses

also u have 4 bullins right

[fickle hollow]

thank u guys for the advice

[storm heron]

wait

where's yorktown II?

[fickle hollow]

yes 1 have 7k proto points i will get 1 more bulin

[fickle hollow]

80 pulls still no yorktown

[quartz jungle]

Btw do you need the Musashi dupe?

[storm heron]

I say we wait until the end of event

[elfin hollow]

So why is YK II good? You put her with Kearsarge right?

[fickle hollow]

i will retire her dupe for 500 proto points

[fickle hollow]

[spring bolt]

if it's fritz vs yk2, i would go for fritz anyway, but i prefer mlbing z52 frist

[barren tapir]

z52 over backliner??

[storm heron]

this is the part why I say wait lol, people definitely have different opinions

[spring bolt]

my standards are low: as long as you have 3 mlb rainbow backlines, you do z52

[barren tapir]

i kinda agree with that honestly

[storm heron]

I believe ender would say ykII

[fickle hollow]

is Hellcat and Helldiver good here instead of f4u and skyraider

[barren tapir]

tho it depends what good vgs you have also

[elfin hollow]

Who do you put Yorktown II with?

[turbid marsh]

kear

[fickle hollow]

the normal hellcat not the one from the event

[storm heron]

you only need to replace the dive bomber with helldiver. If you have, you can improve with better parallel torpedo like wyvern, or better fighter like flapjack. But that's later

[elfin hollow]

How many HVAR to farm? 4?

[storm heron]

mainly enterprise/hornet II/shang ri-la is the budget option

[storm heron]

as many as possible, based on my very weird calculation, the chance you would only need 4 is at least 50%, the chance you would need 6 is about 4%

[keen sable]

she's good in a lot of fleets

[stark quiver]

how do you even calculate that

[turbid marsh]

yeah i think 4 is enough. think next USS UR event is gonna be another CV together with a fighter that bumps hvar? highly doubt it

[elfin hollow]

How much worse is that german plane anyways

[storm heron]

define all comps possible with light with the competitive CVs, try to make most damage, see how many hvars needed

[turbid marsh]

i was going to say 100% going to be 4 but i realize not all have 37+ cv rld together with nak/soy

[elfin hollow]

Damn that's a big difference

I hope we get more UR bulins this year, I still can't afford much for frontline

[cobalt gate]

so for subs to get to 100 affinity whats a good strat?

[keen sable]

is it?

[cobalt gate]

i go to 90 with secretary

[keen sable]

global raid

[elfin hollow]

Seems to be around 18%

[cobalt gate]

oh thats coming up, is there a page on it? couldnt find it

[elfin hollow]

30% wtf

[keen sable]

no, you're right

[stark quiver]

did we start getting supporting barrage in meta fight

[viscid swift]

have you actually looked at the damage of the individual rockets or the number of them carried by each plane

[plain saffron]

Bfg
4x189x110 = 83160
Hvar
6x118x140 = 99120

(99120 - 83160) /83160 x100
Hvar is 19% more than bf against light assuming both +13 and all rocket hit

[storm heron]

well even with implac it's still 4, for example this is sync with 0 bb rld and 25 cv rld

[stark quiver]

doggo

js wondering do you have 2nd ad1?

[keen sable]

i don't believe so but the expectation would be a global raid like other global raids. this was last year's https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Spring_Festive_Fiasco

[storm heron]

hmm true, maybe I should make one ad-1 sync instead

[turbid marsh]

yeah, im pretty sure its just going to be 4, maybe 5. soy fleet uses 4 too.

[stark quiver]

i think i have one

i infact do not

ima just quit the game atp

[storm heron]

ignore kears' plane, idk how kears' plane works tbh

[stark quiver]

kear does kear things

[turbid marsh]

pretty sure just put whatever does the highest damage if with york lol

[storm heron]

You only need 5 hvars when you have all kear, nakh, ykII, and one of tashkent or voroshilov, and the enemy needs to not have summons

[wide dome]

Super new to the game here. There are a couple ships I'd like to get in the guild shop, but I'm wondering how difficult it is to get more guild credits. Would I be better off saving them / focusing on more important ships with them or are they easy enough to get that I can just get ships that I want to get?

[viscid swift]

I believe one of the Jintsuu META comps involved 5 HVARs

Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, and Implacable

[ivory pawn]

It's easy, just gotta get into a guild, but get the important ships first.

[stark quiver]

would 6 be cursed
fritz,yk2,nakh

[storm heron]

I thought you can't equip fighter on implac's 2nd SMH

[viscid swift]

they're not that difficult to get if you join an active guild but with that said there are absolutely some ships you should get first to help with progression

might wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[polar raft]

Who should I limit break first by the look of what I already have?

[stark quiver]

do u have the sync?

[atomic abyss]

Amagi

[rigid onyx]

i'd do shinano --> amagi --> z52

[viscid swift]

I don't actually rememebr if it was 3 strikes or 4 so sadly not

[stark quiver]

wiat a sec, pilica has a sheet for it

[rigid onyx]

is amagi really higher prio than shinano if they already have a haku built

[atomic abyss]

Yes?

[turbid marsh]

ofc yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

amagi is better

[atomic abyss]

Amagi is just better

[viscid swift]

you can get dupes of Shinano to LB her, you can't with Amagi right now

[atomic abyss]

If anything, Nano wants amagi more than Haku

[stark quiver]

bro got dumped 💀

[polar raft]

Ok, Amagi then who should I go from there?

[turbid marsh]

amagi's buffs are

[viscid swift]

Shinano

[turbid marsh]

shinano

[storm heron]

0 bb rld, 25 cv rld

[polar raft]

K thx yall

[elfin hollow]

So where does Haku go now? She got kicked

[stark quiver]

nowhere

[storm heron]

WELP need 5 INCREASES TO >50% when you don't have second skyraider

[viscid swift]

to the bench

[turbid marsh]

to your bedroom

[viscid swift]

unless you don't need a root

[storm heron]

is there a hypothethical comp where you need 6 hvars?

[sweet delta]

there are hypothetical suboptimal comps

[elfin hollow]

Is CV even good vs light armor?

[polar raft]

Wait, If you fully limitbreak a ur level 120, does the last 5 levels unlock without using cognitive array chips?

[storm heron]

what about hypothetical optimal comp, like back then when 3 IJNs is a thing and 3 tenrais is "needed"

[plain saffron]

Yes but high investment

[atomic abyss]

Yes, Yorktown2 and Rumey are those very examples
With the gear from this event

[polar raft]

Huh, I don’t remember unlocking amagi’s last 5 levels

[atomic abyss]

The only hypothetical comp that uses 6 HVAR is the abomination that is Nakhi Rumey Yk2

[storm heron]

oh suboptimal because you should've used a second ad-1

[turbid marsh]

yes, i think top anti bb team functions like probably only 10% higher? im just reading from the tests from the bilibillier posted

[viscid swift]

depends on whether you go fast or slow

[elfin hollow]

There seems to be more variation for the stuff to land

[atomic abyss]

That's why we use a freeze

Like Nakhi
Or impla

[turbid marsh]

bis2 alsace vanguard vs nak soy rumey

[storm heron]

alright I like 5 hvars more than 4 hvars

[elfin hollow]

Aint no way to farm 5

[stark quiver]

theres always a way

[hollow gust]

I’m farming for my 8th one

[elfin hollow]

There technically is, but what are the sacrafices

[viscid swift]

gotta love the memes

[stark quiver]

idk
it took me 4 days to get 5

[hollow gust]

What this for ?

[stark quiver]

quyet used it for meta apprently

[viscid swift]

just some cooking, though I guess potentially Jintsuu

[rigid onyx]

i think quyet shilled stolen cn comp ?

[hollow gust]

You don’t steal comps

[stark quiver]

i only steal comps

[barren tapir]

absolutely possible with enough mail oil

[turbid marsh]

we are educated people, we use reference XD

[storm heron]

you rename the comp to <your name> comp that "I use and works 98%"

[sweet delta]

that's not even the correct comp, that will miss the fourth salvo/airstrike

[rigid onyx]

apparently 4 strike soyuz/fritz/nakh outperforms both 4 & 3 strike yorkii/fritz/keare vs generic light boss

[elfin hollow]

I technically have enough, but then I am just farming all day

[sweet delta]

even with oath and max tech

[stark quiver]

it do be like that

[barren tapir]

no pain no gain

[elfin hollow]

How many is 4? like 100k points?

[stark quiver]

#trophy-room message

[storm heron]

it should be around 140k

[viscid swift]

that's 5 or 4 farmed?

[stark quiver]

would be nice if it was 5 farmed

[elfin hollow]

I guess I am just dumping all my oil and those efficieny tickets here

[stark quiver]

i spent
more than 400 but less than 450

[elfin hollow]

I don't even have that many

[viscid swift]

You have 3 days left, good luck

[stark quiver]

then double time
have fun

[barren tapir]

im at 104490 at 82/100

[elfin hollow]

Realistically I am gona get like 3, 4 if I am ballin

[rigid onyx]

i think this is the 4 strike comp with nakh/soyuz/fritz

[stark quiver]

it took me a good 46 hours to grind 4
as a reference, and it was all with helps

[stark quiver]

is felix gun better than plygun?

[rigid onyx]

on fritz the 0 spread make its better i think

[sweet delta]

soyuz should take table

[stark quiver]

41 rld?

[storm heron]

omg saiun is faster than hvars then, even amagi nakh can 4-shot with saiuns and bearcat

[rigid onyx]

If you dont need the stop I wonder what performs better with 4 strike nakh/soyuz/fritz vs 3 strike yorkii/kear/fritz

[spring bolt]

3 bbs, and they have zwei pulls anyway

[viscid swift]

Yeah but if I'm a poor sob I can't afford oaths for 4 salvo...

[cobalt gate]

other than gold bulin andything in medal you guys think is a must get?

[sweet delta]

gray plates

[viscid swift]

Specialized core if you're short on UR Bullins

[cobalt gate]

oh yeah got specialized cores, and getting the gray plates acutally since aircraft dipped to below 5k

[viscid swift]

That plus purple Bullins and any SRs you're missing

[ivory pawn]

I like to grab the DR prints myself, if you're not done with DR5 6 yet.

Oh, and the t3 red books.

[barren tapir]

dr6 also

[cobalt gate]

ok copying that

[ivory pawn]

I thought I said 6.

[cobalt gate]

is there a calc on how much medal we get on average?

[barren tapir]

how much do you play? simple

[soft raft]

That completely depends on how much you play and pull on events

Since events are where you get the majority of your medals from

[viscid swift]

No how unlucky are you on event pulls and how much low cost farming do you do

[cobalt gate]

speaking of bp, is getting dr prints just to convert to proto currency worth it?

[viscid swift]

I do it for the DRs still these days

[quartz jungle]

Btw does Monarch gun + White shell not outperform Mk7 +autoloader?

[barren tapir]

atm i average over 1k a month

[cobalt gate]

you mean medal or proto?

[barren tapir]

medal

[cobalt gate]

ahh

[quartz jungle]

Also if the duration for airstrike is too short just use Aviation fuel

[stark quiver]

what does the d1 exp/oil compare to

[sweet delta]

according to the trustworthy larscalc, changing to monarch+white gives +3.1% barrage damage and -3.6% main gun damage. Plus, it's slower and will miss the twelvth main gun volley WHEN UNOATHED

and soyuz main gun is definitely over 50% of her damage

[storm heron]

this monarch gun?

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

oh it's HE

[atomic abyss]

Yeah that's monarch gun
It's essentially a worse mk6

[sweet delta]

larsdb has gear aliases

[fast steppe]

how much more damage can i squeeze out from this? soumet

[sweet delta]

why are you asking us, we have literally zero context

[rapid grail]

DRs cost 8250 coins for first 15 prints? It's been a long while since I raised DRs by coin

[stark quiver]

well
not use shimakaze

[sweet delta]

7200 for 10, something like 22k or something for 15

[rapid grail]

Naruhodo

[barren tapir]

8250 is prs

[fast steppe]

#1324077826596540428 message for gearing

[viscid swift]

You could start by giving vanguard a fire control radar and Helena SG radat

[fast steppe]

problem is musashi might reload too slow

[viscid swift]

Give her an autoloader in place of the white shell

[cobalt gate]

how worth is that 3% extra damage from fire cat?

[stark quiver]

best rainbow skill

[fast steppe]

is the idea to get one more salvo off before time runs out

musashi drops to 19.56 with autoloader hm

[storm heron]

one of the only place where autoloader can be used

[quartz jungle]

Oh Soyuz misses 12th mgm salvo with Monarch gun when not oathed with 17 RLD? Didn't know that

[sweet delta]

when not oathed

[quartz jungle]

Oh sorry couldn't read

[cobalt gate]

i'm thinking, should i reset this and try to go for fire? i think the accuracy one isn't good? and need the fp one?

[quartz jungle]

No need to reset this cat

[nimble knoll]

Is Joffre good?

[storm heron]

how often do META ship reach daily EXP cap for their skills

[true kraken]

Is NJ the first UR gacha in the game?

[storm heron]

Joffre is a versatile carrier with strong damage output. She should be positioned below the flagship because she gets a much better barrage. She has strong execute mechanics against low health targets.

Joffre is a solid CV with great stats and efficiencies. Barrages are great; she wants to be in the bottom position for the torpedo bomber barrage. Solid CV, worthy of being an event SR.

[barren tapir]

tldr decent to good but shes not rainbow

[nimble knoll]

This is all my ships rn (elite and up ig)

[storm heron]

probably just a bit below enterprise or shangrila level

[barren tapir]

if ur that new avoid using more than a couple golds you wont be able to mlb them

[storm heron]

she's ur best gold carrier rn, but yeah ^

avoid switching ships early game

[nimble knoll]

So I should replace Zeppelin?

[barren tapir]

please use less gold ships

focus on 1 fleet

[storm heron]

idk why you have fleet 2 there

[nimble knoll]

Just for moral support lmao, they're not built

[nimble knoll]

This is my fleet 1 and built ships (using only two gold)

[storm heron]

how much can you upgrade joffre? (planning)

[barren tapir]

okay so graf is low lvl enough i feel okay saying you should swap her with joffre

[nimble knoll]

I only have 2 more UR bullins..

[storm heron]

what? ur bullins?

[barren tapir]

they mean gold

[storm heron]

anyways doesn't seem like you can afford to use another SR ship anytime soon

[nimble knoll]

What level should I use Yorktown II?

I'm level 35 rn

[storm heron]

rn none

[barren tapir]

when you can mlb her

[nimble knoll]

So when I have 4 UR Bulins?

[barren tapir]

yk2 needs UR and you need 4

[storm heron]

UR -> Rainbow
SR -> Gold

[nimble knoll]

I'm gtting SR And UR Mixed Up Lmaoo

[storm heron]

when you can do D-1 event or 9-1 campaign, you can think about it. For now ykII won't be used for sure

also how are you not using nelson?

[sinful elk]

Chat which wolfpack is good to pair with

[barren tapir]

vv better

[storm heron]

81 96 37

so who to replace graf

[nimble knoll]

I changed her to Zeppelin, But should I use Zoffre?

[barren tapir]

ideally sara but doubt they have

[storm heron]

why are you using zeppelin?

and no you shouldn't use any more SR ships

[nimble knoll]

For hard mode or smth

[storm heron]

hard mode complicated

do you have a thread?

[nimble knoll]

I'm tryna farm 3-4 hard for retrofit uni

[nimble knoll]

Me?

[storm heron]

I suggest making a thread and talk about your fleet and your progress there

[nimble knoll]

Alright

[storm heron]

and then whenever u need help u just ask here and then you can just refer them to your thread

I was not following you when you were discussing options with uniquename and ender (?)

[nimble knoll]

Newbie Ahh-

[nimble knoll]

Made one

[elfin hollow]

What are some good coin sink?

[atomic abyss]

Research, cats, retros, augments, limit breaks, cog awaken etc

[elfin hollow]

For cats, what exactly do I do? Just keep rerolling and feeind new cats?

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much

[fleet cobalt]

Best map to grind coins for a lvl 50?

[atomic abyss]

The highest event map you can do

[nimble knoll]

Should I Use Zeppelin Or Nelson For B-3 In The Event?

[grave ivy]

Any advice on how not to run out of oil?

[barren tapir]

get more oil 🧠

level canteen, run commissions, etc

[atomic abyss]

It's really to manage oil carefully
I.e saving mail oil, grinding maps with oil cap etc

[atomic abyss]

Why not both?

[final heart]

why is it warning me?

isn't the event ending in 15th?

[atomic abyss]

It'll always start warning a few days in advance

[humble summit]

My ship leveling journey map

[tranquil marten]

Should I mlb yorktown 2 or uvh

[zinc hornet]

I got all event ships except Ham2 at 41 pulls. is it worth going hard-ish for her or just save the cubes? I've got like 550 or something

[barren tapir]

just save

[stark quiver]

Do you want her?

[zinc hornet]

alright, just gonna use free pulls only

[zinc hornet]

eh don't really care much either way ig

[stark quiver]

Then don’t

[zinc hornet]

understandable

[crisp raven]

with no other context, prob yk2. but itll come down to your other URs and DRs, plus how many ur bulins you have access to right now. additionally, we might be getting a new UR next month. if tradition holds true, new urs are feb, may, sept, and dec.

[dense briar]

Guys help build an efficient mobbing fleet for my fleet 2 using these available ships

[bold cove]

Better finish yk2 i guess

[last zenith]

Does implacable going to have rerun this year

[crisp raven]

finish using your free tickets this event in case you happen to get yk2 dupes. she'd be the better choice with what you have, but in all honestly, id wait. you can use the perma pity to mlb UvH eventually (since you already have shinano done). and yk2 is usually paired with pr6 kearsarge for anti light.

[crisp raven]

shes the next UR to rerun, which should happen this year. but we have absolutely no idea when. and the devs could always change the rerun order.

[dense briar]

Please help

[wind hazel]

you dont need fleet 2 for now

[nimble knoll]

Then I'll replace either Uni Or VV..

[barren tapir]

nelson

[nimble knoll]

Should I Oath Laffey rn Or Uni (when I Get Uni at 100 Affinity)

[barren tapir]

oath waifu

[wind hazel]

instead, stop using cesera meta, put hood to fleet 1, put all gold bulin into her

[grave ridge]

Any other gun better for biscuit 2 other than the NJ gun(cuz its on NJ) and the current triple 406mm mk 6

[wind hazel]

the one on Bismarck

[grave ridge]

Thats d one I'm using rn

[frank pulsar]

no, there isnt
all of your gold guns arent good btw

[dense briar]

Okok thanks

[grave ridge]

I figured lol, only better guns out there are the URs?

[barren tapir]

[grave ridge]

Thats why i didn't upgrade any of the gold ones

[wind hazel]

HE gun, mk7>mk6 yes

[grave ridge]

How2 get?

[crisp raven]

use 1 fleet until world 9ish. do hood, unicon, and whoever (buy arizona in the guild shop). and do portland, laffey and helena. put them in that order in your fleet. limit break unicorn and portland using the purple bulins you have. and as mori said, put your gold bulins into hood.

[wind hazel]

gear lab, but mk6 is good enough

[grave ridge]

Alrightu

[dense briar]

Thanks for this

[wind hazel]

why buy arizona though?

[pseudo saffron]

Z53 for mob or boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

she can do both, assuming 52

[pseudo saffron]

52*

What about shimakaze

[wind hazel]

same thing. most UR can do both

[crisp raven]

from their screenshots, they dont have a more worthwhile 3rd backline. wasnt arizona recco for early/ new players (not taking drops or events into consideration) or has that changed?

[wind hazel]

it is Pennsylvania

[nimble knoll]

Is this good for B-3?

[wind hazel]

penny or arkroyal can work as 3rd backline

[crisp raven]

small revision. buy pennsylvanis, not arizona. i mixed up the two on my end. or ark royal since you have her already. but not giulio. drop her.

[wind hazel]

he already has penny on the dock too

[carmine heath]

Did they raise d3 oil cost? It randomly got more expensive

[dense briar]

So for fleet 1 should use

Backline: penny/hood/uni
vanguard: portland/laffey/helena

??

[wind hazel]

only one way to find out. go try it

flag hood

[storm heron]

try looking at your assined fleet, you probably switched between all enemies and standby

[crisp raven]

hood in the middle, but yes

[carmine heath]

1400 -> 1600 for logistics

[carmine heath]

D3 is oil capped why does this matter

[storm heron]

some most people lowcost

[lilac kelp]

Is the event F6F worth getting

[granite rain]

Seriously? A 33% increase on D3? That's insane

[carmine heath]

Upon further review i think its because im too used to staring at d2

[dense briar]

Last question should i be bothered levelling uo my subs now? Or nahh?

[barren tapir]

33% increase of what

[granite rain]

Unless my memory is terrible, it just went from costing me 1200 to 1600

[barren tapir]

if using 267 oil, 3x 2x run is 1602

[crisp raven]

no. not for a long time. theyre a pain and dont offer much until you need the extra damage. that should be around w14 or 15.

[barren tapir]

maybe you put 2 to 3

[hushed dawn]

What AA guns do people run on torpedo focused ships? STAAG?

[carmine heath]

I think i accidentally did a few d2 runs instead of d3 rip oil T_T

[final heart]

don't upgrade your subs, just put them in commission and they should level high enough to clear lv40 raid consistently

[dense briar]

Okay thank you bud

[barren tapir]

267, 534, 801, 1068, 1335, 1602. depending on how many helps you use, how much repeat sortie

actually 1335 isnt possible

[hushed dawn]

I've been thinking of giving Unzen and Kazagumo STAAGs as their permanent fix, is that a good idea?

[rigid onyx]

the entire gameplay loop is fleet building

[hushed dawn]

... is that an answer to my question or nah?

[nimble knoll]

I'm getting cooked On B-3

[humble summit]

chill by B2 then

[barren tapir]

wait you get exp even when you fail?

[wind hazel]

yes you shouldn't have perma fix on any ship

like this meta, you wanna slap 57mm on them

some other, 134 might give more power etc etc

[hushed dawn]

Idk cuz with Unzen and Kazagumo I always find myself equipping STAAGs on them when I do use them, which is usually for bossing.

[pseudo saffron]

What’s the best gear to get from core shop?

[humble summit]

i rmb theres a prio list

[pseudo saffron]

Where

[wind hazel]

3 white and 2 black, then independence if you wanna, then the rest from sub gear to oxytorp

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[pseudo saffron]

Thanks

[humble summit]

isnt it one per month for black and white

[wind hazel]

well yes

[barren tapir]

arrays/chips also nice tho a more long term benefit

[wind hazel]

i didnt mean to buy them all at once

[humble summit]

why is this niche

[barren tapir]

bc you rarely use it

[pseudo saffron]

Is independence worth it if I already have unicorn, Saratoga, Fritz, and enterprise?

[barren tapir]

get shells first

[plain saffron]

Because most of the time you use EVA/HP aux instead

[humble summit]

how much core do u have first

[barren tapir]

she's worth it but not top prio for you

[humble summit]

those are used more on subs right for the torps

[plain saffron]

It only used when manual or your ship not dying somehow

[pseudo saffron]

1157

[barren tapir]

white shell imo '

[nimble knoll]

I'm close to getting The Plane, And I Think I Can get some Plane Blueprints too (But No Horni II)

[crimson glacier]

getting more offensive stats for frontline from aux is just completely useless most of the time

[crisp raven]

there was a dark time known as timeout farming. you would enter a map and just time out 3 mins. you get exp for failing and oil refund minus the entry cost. obviously, its not recommended 🙂

[plain saffron]

Iirc depends on situation, usually they want snorkel and hull pressure instead

[crimson glacier]

timeout farming was based coz it made devs give a shit

[humble summit]

hmmmm ok

[crimson glacier]

and add oil cap

[barren tapir]

pre oil cap sounds like a very dark time

[humble summit]

AL Lore

[final heart]

what should I build for my 2nd fleet?

[pseudo saffron]

Is yorktown2 good?

[humble summit]

there is no bad ur

[pseudo saffron]

MLB her or z52?

[humble summit]

problem is do u have enuf resources to feed

[pseudo saffron]

What is she used for

[humble summit]

shes a carrier(planes)(right?)

[pseudo saffron]

Not enough bullion 🥲

[humble summit]

yeah thats why, if u have no resources, build stuff u can build first

[humble summit]

no laffey 😭 (jk dont mind me)

[lament ledge]

do i replace suzut with san diego

[humble summit]

laffey simp saying for the funnies

[humble summit]

SD is one of the best AA ships if iirc

[final heart]

I do have her, she's just not included in these pics

[barren tapir]

the best

[humble summit]

have Sandy?

[pseudo saffron]

Any of these sr’s good to replace Portland? And maybe z23

[final heart]

the only URs I have are fritz and Z52

[humble summit]

good enuf for now, now u need bulins for em

[wind hazel]

tico saratoga, maybe maryland. shigure if you want more TRP ship, the rest idk

[humble summit]

do u recommend AL tierlist for ppl who have no idea what they are doing like me

[wind hazel]

no

tier list disregard cost and resources, so it's very 50-50

[final heart]

is it advisable to bleed for mlb z52? I think I can squeeze just enough for 4 UR bullins

[humble summit]

any place i can refer to?

[barren tapir]

tierlist is useless without at least some understanding of the game

[humble summit]

why not fritz first

[final heart]

because she's mlb

[wind hazel]

probably better to save for next UR

[humble summit]

im blind sorry

[barren tapir]

would hold for feb ur then decide then, if z52 is not urgently needed

[wind hazel]

asking in this channel is better tbh

[final heart]

I just need the game to not gate me from a map because my fleets aren't averaging lv95

[wind hazel]

ectl have their own gph too, can ask there as well

[humble summit]

then farm xp first

since now u have event levels even if its not exp efficient u can get pts while farming pts

[final heart]

oil for event rn, I'll farm again after event

[humble summit]

im eating my oil in the mail rn 💀

[final heart]

I already ate it because I forgot to pad stats for D1 and didn't abuse oil cap

[humble summit]

ok how to abuse oil cap and what does it mean

[final heart]

isn't there an oil cap that limits how much you spend per map?

[humble summit]

not sure cuz my fleet eat too much

[pseudo saffron]

Anyone help pls

[humble summit]

do u have bulins

@barren tapir isnt z23 goated or smt

[barren tapir]

[humble summit]

idk never used

[final heart]

look, same fleets, with and without oil cap

[pseudo saffron]

Not enough ur bullion

[humble summit]

sr?

[humble summit]

ah u mean the normal levels and event?

[pseudo saffron]

I have

[humble summit]

isnt prinz eugen a fat tank or smt @barren tapir

[barren tapir]

she is but that's all she does

[dreamy blade]

not even her unique aug could save her

[humble summit]

for what ships that can replace its better to ask other ppl, i have no knowledge sorry @pseudo saffron

[final heart]

only D1 and above have this oil cap, A1 to C3 don't

[eternal basalt]

SP doesn't have it, and it's higher than D3...

[unkempt mortar]

is this thing even good anywhere

[wind hazel]

no

[dreamy blade]

you probably shouldnt be window shopping in gear lab with 31 electronics

[humble summit]

how mcuh do i need

[wind hazel]

a lot

[barren tapir]

a morbillion

[dreamy blade]

electronics are used a lot for some of the best gear (not that plane) and it is relatively rare

[frank pulsar]

its rare? i thought it was just scarce since demand is so high

[dreamy blade]

little of column a, little of column b

[barren tapir]

its not rarer than the other mats, or not significantly so. just demand much higher

[frank pulsar]

what does that mean

[boreal wagon]

"a bit of both" basically

[dreamy blade]

it means it is both rare (just for being a yellow opsi mat) and demand is high

[barren tapir]

yes

i havent updated this in a while with my current owned mats, but hbx seems very high somehow

[quartz jungle]

Yes HBX is used a lot

I got a shortage of HBX before electronic components

[sweet delta]

Huh

[dreamy blade]

oh it's for quadmags

[sharp socket]

should i get a 2nd twin 137mm for sushi or stick with tri155

[quartz jungle]

And 406mm Mk7

[dreamy blade]

who crafts that from not the 406mk6

[sweet delta]

If you're doing strong mob weak boss, then one 137 for mob is enough

[wind hazel]

not getting 2nd ply anytime soon?

[sweet delta]

Like everyone

[sharp socket]

2nd ply is on shimanto

1st ply is on ply

[dreamy blade]

i thought the idea was to get some of the plates back since everyone would have a +10 mk6

oh it's 2 more UR prints

[boreal wagon]

the idea is to not use 64+ electronics
(and yeah less ur prints)

[wind hazel]

mkD is far cheaper

[barren tapir]

no i mean ive gotten more hbx than others lol in total

[cobalt rapids]

only if u wanna refund gold plates from ur +11 mk6 spendings

[dreamy blade]

youve almost used as much hbx as electronics

[sharp socket]

i have alot more black toilet paper than any other gearlab material

[barren tapir]

torps and dd guns

[dreamy blade]

interesting idea to track that, personally i've only run low on high purity metals (besides electronics)

#gameplay-help message

[sharp socket]

is ibuki better than harbin at torping

[sweet delta]

Ibuki is about as good as shimakaze at torping

[grave ridge]

this good for anchorage?

[dreamy blade]

it's ok and can be crafted into the prototype triple 203 in gear lab which is good

[wind hazel]

good enough to last until shiny

[grave ridge]

alright ty

[silent latch]

shinano or Yorktown II

[quasi delta]

Is the hardmode boss even doable?

[barren tapir]

yes

[quasi delta]

hmm

[vale spindle]

you should get more tuning first

for maximum effectiveness, you need 203/203/156 in the 3 stats respectively

[shell willow]

this question needs a bit more context

[vale spindle]

any higher doesn't do anything so don't worry about going higher

[quasi delta]

i noticed that earlier as well, got it up to 160 now but need to buy more tuning samples

[sharp socket]

you also need somewhat decent ships and fleetbuilding to kill it but this month its pretty easy to do

[quasi delta]

i also think that my fleets arent that good but dont really know what is good and what not

[sharp socket]

if you make a thread and send your dock in it we can help you make fleets and gear them

[quasi delta]

i stopped playing like 2-3 years ago and picked it up a few weeks ago

[dreamy blade]

easier than last months?

[sharp socket]

yes given that i can almost 1 fleet it but not the previous one

well after november they all seem easy to me so

[barren tapir]

wouldve thought it'd be harder due to shield

[dreamy blade]

thought i remember ender or someone saying heavy (last month) harbiter is the easiest

[shell willow]

has anyone autoed this ex?

[barren tapir]

even suchi didnt so

[quasi delta]

Opsi fleetbuilding and hardmode boss

[shell willow]

damn its cooked

[sharp socket]

last month i did 41 and 49 bars with my BB and CV fleet and had to finish off with mob, this month i did 88 bars with BB and with a little more luck it couldve been onefleet

[quasi delta]

i guess ship metas changed lately... im guessing the newer ships have overall better stats right?

[cobalt rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGjM-eDR58 without eldr even and her skill is unbanned so add her for even easier auto

[shell willow]

thx

[dreamy blade]

there are banned skills in ex?

[storm heron]

newer ex ban laffey's immortality and eldridge's invincibility

[cobalt rapids]

laffii and eldr yea

[dreamy blade]

did they give a reason why? seems a bit silly

[barren tapir]

oh i am behind the times

[cobalt rapids]

do they give reasons ? idk
but they bypass the mechanics of hard EX which is 🕹️ so prob thats why

[sweet delta]

I think cheeky autod it too, but he's not a purple name

[storm heron]

time to upgrade name to purple

[barren tapir]

i need to know how someone got a bulin to do nearly 300k dmg to this ex wtf

[dreamy blade]

UR bulin augment?

[storm heron]

the what how

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ultra_Rainbow_Hammer

[barren tapir]

must be cracked augment

[storm heron]

how is special barrage dealing 300k??

[barren tapir]

i mean

[vale spindle]

the barrage is cracked yes but it scales with bulin stats so its not cracked

[sweet delta]

was that for this ex? Where did you find the picture

[barren tapir]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQO61OD0uUvsojL1yrdsOmhBv1d8nO3uodf0xT-VO1TTJZi68uQxWi-nk89VWPXdPw3Byp-xdY1qd4Y/pub

[storm heron]

how long does that take, 5 minutes?

[barren tapir]

manual guide you linked suchi

[sweet delta]

Rip shuwa

[storm heron]

[sweet delta]

2 years later, is warspite still the worst UR?

[sharp echo]

dahel i thought it last until last day event?

[barren tapir]

it does. it just begins screaming at you 3 days prior

[sharp echo]

oooh

[vale spindle]

yea all the "expiring soon" notifs start the first day of the last week the thing is active

[obsidian ivy]

Will making this refund me all the gold AA plates

[elfin hollow]

are these two useful?

[dreamy blade]

yes

[oblique ocean]

how do i get more of these so i can plan for the future for taihou meta cores

[cobalt rapids]

taihou meta will be dossiered not in shop

[dreamy blade]

that shop/those fragments are for past meta ships that were in cruise pass

uh and event shop metas?

[elfin hollow]

there's one mission IIRC that requires defeat a certain number of fleets / ships idk

I got 128 of those frags atm

[dreamy blade]

they are primarily from weekly mission/opsi arbiter/getting copies of meta ships you already have 4 crystals of

[oblique ocean]

rephrase that because dossier is a noun and my dumb american brain is confusing me

[elfin hollow]

would "archived" be a better replacement?

[oblique ocean]

archived is better yes, which means i gotta get grinding

[sharp echo]

how many bp the hellcat hvar need to craft?

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Showdown#Dossier_Analysis

[oblique ocean]

Hmm interesting so by technicality there is no rush to grinding more taihou meta sync cores right?

[elfin hollow]

would Hipper Meta get her way into the shop / dossier or not?

[dreamy blade]

for reference algerie meta was the most recently dossiered ship, which was added with taihoum release

so yes if you arent able to max her she will be back eventually

[oblique ocean]

oh god so it will be a while

I might as well grind as much as i can bear as much as I love taihou Meta showdown and operation siren is so draining