gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

yeah because again, theygive fatesims to DRs when the DR needs it

[cunning bison]

which one's more likely to come 1st?

[barren tapir]

i dont think DR fatesims say anything about coining schedule

[pseudo hearth]

I’m fairly certain they’re not going to give DR ships fate sims if they’re already top tier

[viscid swift]

considering Haku and Agir are likely to get coining in the next week or 2

[keen sable]

you can't give brest a fs and coining while agir and haku languish

[barren tapir]

[keen sable]

that would just be totally weird

[cunning bison]

do brest and ply even need fs???

[barren tapir]

brest maybe

ply probably gets fatesim after pr6 DRs

[cunning bison]

time to pull 120k coins frm nowhere this week, yktwn ii's making me go to pity for her (at least this time i have a lot of cubes, last time i did not manage to)

[rigid onyx]

were you able to coin fdg before her fate sim?

[keen sable]

remember it's expected also on pr8 that you can't even research 4 anymore

[cunning bison]

question doesnt prs usually come w collab w wows

[viscid swift]

they got released at the same time

[keen sable]

it's a wows collab that is correct

[barren tapir]

yes research is a long standing collab with wows

all this discussion just cos i said i might pick up agir after she's coinable

[sharp socket]

i thought its just a one sided collab

[rigid onyx]

i doubt theyll add agir coining in before they add her fs, and it's not impossible that brest could get a fs before her

[cunning bison]

lots of pr discussions

[pseudo hearth]

Speaking of, I’m planing on going for Brest after I finish XP farming for Saint Louis, what are some good teams to farm XP for Brest (assuming I’m not just throwing them somewhere easy to farm)?
I don’t have Alsace, so that’s not a choice.

[barren tapir]

it'd be weird to give haku coining and not agir tho

better question is, did azuma and fdg get coining together?

[undone plover]

show your frenchies

[keen sable]

wows has AL stuff. like captains or something

[cunning bison]

marse?

[viscid swift]

your point being what exactly

DR fate sims haven't exactly been the most consistent thing

[cunning bison]

and special al ships, commanders w voicelines

[pseudo hearth]

I’ve missed a few.

[hollow gust]

Haku

[soft raft]

FdG too before the UR BB deluge washed her out

[pseudo hearth]

Haku was getting powercrept before her FS

[cunning bison]

mog, brennus, jeanne for vanguards

[barren tapir]

yep azuma+fdg coinable same update, no way haku gets it and agir doesnt cos of some esotric fs5 bs

[soft raft]

Really?
Cuz it really feels like she didn't get powercrept proper until Amagi CV dropped

[hollow gust]

By who

[undone plover]

gascogne, richy, clem for part 1
brennus, saint louis, kersaint part 2

[barren tapir]

oh that's a good reason for me to skip brest actually i have like no baguettes

[pseudo hearth]

Gascogne as the flag ship or Richy?

[barren tapir]

nvm i actually have some

[pseudo hearth]

Time to grab the other Frenchies from Research

[keen sable]

it's farming. maybe don't worry too much about it

[barren tapir]

it would be a pretty cursed lineup tho

[undone plover]

richy is fine
shouldnt matter

[barren tapir]

i'll just come back to brest after a french event

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, it wouldn’t hurt to level ships that are good. Plus, it allows me to push through to higher stages while I farm if possible.

[keen sable]

then don't use them together

who farms with 2 bb anyway

[barren tapir]

why'd you farm anything above ch12 besides 1:1 13-1

[undone plover]

level 110 BB wont struggle in 12-1 or 12-4

[pseudo hearth]

Because I don’t like always staying at one place while I farm every single research ship

Especially when I’d like to farm some of the ship drops further on

[cunning bison]

jst afk stuff man

choose 1 dont complicate ya life

[sharp socket]

you guys care about hull comp when farming?

[viscid swift]

to a point

[undone plover]

it is better long term to mix BB and CV for farming

[viscid swift]

I'd rather end my main fleets leveling 3 CVs than 3 BBs

[cunning bison]

i only care for research

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, that’s sort of hard in regards to the French LOL

[eternal moth]

For my alt I'm really limited on gear. Which is better for Sandy, duck gun or single 76?

[viscid swift]

you make due with what you have

[sharp socket]

what is duck gun

[eternal moth]

twin 100 non-kai

[viscid swift]

sometimes you have to do it and it is workable, though not the most comfortable, hence why I try to avoid it

[cunning bison]

remind me why people use alts again?

[sharp socket]

prob that one then

both will probably be similar results

[eternal moth]

I'm doing testing to see what's possible for new players.

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I didn’t even realize you were a newer player until I checked when you joined the server. Well, good on you for progressing so quick.

[sharp socket]

since sandy wants damage gun, any fast gun would perform subpar

and she also still has her bug last i checked

[keen sable]

i would never run three ships only also when painleve, bearn are right there

[pseudo hearth]

I’d recommend trying to nab some French ships from the War Archives if you haven’t already. There’s a few available there.

[sharp socket]

the patch for sandy is never coming is it

[barren tapir]

oh good idea actually

[keen sable]

but then i tend to finish all cdc in 6 days so

[eternal moth]

I still don't think that's a bug, it's just that she shoots faster than her barrage goes off, so doesn't finish the barrage

[spice phoenix]

any tips for the ex map?

[cunning bison]

how?/

[barren tapir]

willnote it down for the next dead week

[viscid swift]

just grinding W12, not that complicated

[eternal moth]

Lots of clearing runs

[cunning bison]

morale?

[viscid swift]

the dorm exists

[cunning bison]

its not enoughhhh

[sharp socket]

if you farm for the whole day you can complete cdc in one day

[eternal moth]

It is if you have multiple fleets.

[viscid swift]

don't underestimate how much the XP adds up especially with high morale bonus

[keen sable]

D3 actually. 4 of 5 weeks were event weeks I believe

[viscid swift]

yeah you did mention that, which for just grinding XP is worse so there you go

[cunning bison]

sigh i have to painstakingly clear campaign huh? opsi it is

[humble summit]

cdc?

[viscid swift]

clearing W12 isn't difficult

[eternal moth]

OpSi is terrible for time per XP

[cunning bison]

(im lazy)

[sharp socket]

just auto unless you're not in w12 for some reason

[barren tapir]

also opsi is there for when your fleet is recovering morale if you want to push it faster

[keen sable]

combat data collection: the xp collecting part of developing research ships

[barren tapir]

doesnt make a big diff but it is somethingif you really wanna zoom and dont have a lot of fleets ready

[humble summit]

oh

[eternal moth]

As an example, I'm about a month in and have cleared 11-1

[cunning bison]

i cldve pushed prob to w13 in my gear and ships rn but i left campaign at 8-4 cuz im too lazy

[barren tapir]

get to ch12 at least, it is a good place to dump oil outside events

[sharp socket]

then you're missing out

[viscid swift]

it's literally just tapping the screen every few minutes

[sharp socket]

there was a dead week before this current event

[viscid swift]

if you can't do even that then I don't know what to say

[humble summit]

i just do event for pts with ship plus u don't need the ships to be good

[sharp socket]

couldve sent it all the way during then

[eternal moth]

9-1 is literally right there, and that's where oil cap starts, meaning it becomes ridiculously easier to farm

[storm heron]

fomo moment anyways you're missing out by A LOT since oilcap and stuff

[sharp socket]

also you get 1000 gems from 9-1 to 12-4

[cunning bison]

fair ig

[cunning bison]

yay skiins i have a lot of dockspace

[keen sable]

my alt did event only for a very long time. it was fine. you're obviously not going to pop out a research ship every 6 days if you don't play a lot...

[cunning bison]

facts took me many months d=to get brest by doing event b/d3s

[sharp socket]

and an additional 250 from w13, thats an l2d skin right there if you're gonna whale for dock in the future

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty far behind, I was focusing on retros instead of using the purple and gold retro BP for research ships. I still haven't finished a PR1 ship, but it'll probably be Roon first. I have most of the XP completed for both Roon and Sanrui

[barren tapir]

w13 hard (kidding, but it's not in the same group imo)

could i push w13 actually, i have sandy retro now

[humble summit]

arent u good enuf to do it

[eternal moth]

Sandy stronk. Do you have her augment as well?

[barren tapir]

i havent bothered trying i retroed sandy an hour ago

[cunning bison]

sandy powah

[barren tapir]

she needs some levels still but otherwise

[humble summit]

i just throw my best ships to deal with 13

[sharp socket]

aurora has alot of time spent playing but not alot of days played, so i don't think his URs or gear is that stacked but w13 is pretty easy anyway

[undone plover]

indep uni sandy can prolly 2:1 ch13
maybe need 1 more vanguard

[eternal moth]

Yeah, with ships currently available w13 shouldn't be too bad.

[viscid swift]

yeah W13 isn't difficult, juts need to know what you're doing

[humble summit]

no worries i dont have alot as well

[cunning bison]

what does 2:1 mean acrly?

[barren tapir]

2 backline 1 vanguard

[keen sable]

2 main ships: 1 vanguard ship

[undone plover]

2 backline 1 frontline
not sth u should do unless u know what u are doing

[sharp socket]

4 months w13 is not record pace but it is pretty fast still

[humble summit]

random bs go works for me so ill just continue that after i want to push campaign?

[viscid swift]

no

[spice phoenix]

any tips for the parallel superimposition EX? (my vanguard keeps dying*)

*its ancho, JDA, and eld retro

[sharp socket]

if he wants to he can probably get w15 in under a year

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

there's a big jump in difficulty from W12 to W13

[eternal moth]

I really need to get Indep and retro her, but Sara and Uni took precedence, so getting the T3 retro BP might be tough

[viscid swift]

and difficulty only increases exponentially from there

[mellow cape]

I'm forever stuck on 15-3, so imma wait until power creep can save me from my hell lol

[humble summit]

my goal rn is to stay at w12 to farm everything first is that a viable strategy

[eternal moth]

What's your current comp?

[barren tapir]

actually u might be right but id say bit over a year

[keen sable]

there's something to farm on 12??

[viscid swift]

I mean that's what I'm doing still to this day

[barren tapir]

early 2026 i would have musashi laff2 and guam, and i alr have aquila so

[humble summit]

xp and coins is what im saying lol

[cunning bison]

guess ill rush 2 w12 then (secretary slots + pr packages motivates me)

[barren tapir]

im not in a rush for campaign til i run out of dock tho

[sharp socket]

you play more time than me and started during CV URs so you already have like 6/15 of the ships for w15 at 4 months in

[humble summit]

u can do it lol since u grind alot

[sharp socket]

probably more than 50% of the ships needed tbh

[keen sable]

you don't ever have to leave 12 for farming if you don't want to

[viscid swift]

I'd be more concerned about gear than anything else

ships tend to tack care of themselves in due time

[sharp socket]

the gear is not a problem after 10 months in my experience

for w15 that is

[humble summit]

im still having issues after a year 😭

[barren tapir]

i have 4 flaps and 2 wyverns what is all the gear anyway?

[sharp socket]

im overflowing in ordnance and electronics, just gated by t3 ordnance and rainbow prints

[barren tapir]

probably a twin 457 is needed right?

[humble summit]

what the heck

[undone plover]

10 flaps

[barren tapir]

couple more wyverns, more flaps...by the time i get the cheat code ships rerun it should be manageable i guess

[sharp socket]

but i have 3 wyverns, 2x 457 where i wont even use one, 5 flappers, 2x 137s

[humble summit]

how r u so rich

[barren tapir]

shimanto z52 laffey2 guam sandy would cover aa adequately, maybe eldkai reruns too so

[viscid swift]

he plays the game

[sharp socket]

he plays it a little too much but yes thats how

[icy cave]

He does C1, definitely plays the game

[sharp socket]

you can be lazier and have 95% of what he would get in the same timeframe

[viscid swift]

the C1 farming doesn't actually add that much

[humble summit]

what do u get out of c1

[weary gust]

sanity depletion

[sharp socket]

10 extra gold plates a month

[humble summit]

possible to farm rainbow prints there?

[sharp socket]

out of the 450-500 from opsi that youd get without farming c1

[barren tapir]

almost cmdr lvl115

yeah i might like AL a little too much

[silk helm]

i feel you... im stuck on 11-3 for a few months

[undone plover]

Very indirectly and not really
Just do your opsi
Dont worry about c1

[keen sable]

you're guaranteed 2 wyvern in 3 months so i don't know why you would prioritize that

[viscid swift]

115 isn't actually that much of a grind

[pseudo hearth]

Wait, in those few months? Did you buy the thing that brings you to lvl 70?

[sharp socket]

at least he's gonna give the cmdr level farmers a run for their money

[humble summit]

i would say this is my second month that i actually do opsi

[viscid swift]

it's when you start to hit above 130 that things really slow down

[sharp socket]

i got 115 after like 10 months i think

and then 120 on christmas

[barren tapir]

c1 is very good for powerlevelling up to 120 or so, i wouldnt put too much stock into it

also while im f2p i did start with 2x exp event (until cmdr 80) for jp anniv

[humble summit]

i wish i could get 2 ur weapons worth of prints after next mth

[eager mulch]

there is a way

[barren tapir]

have you done the classified file loggers yet? those are one time thing but guarantee a UR selector print each

[humble summit]

not yet all i did last opsi was clear all stuff besides harbiter

[pseudo hearth]

Jeez, you’re a machine. I’ve been playing since close to the start of the game, and you’ve already surpassed my Cmndr Level

[barren tapir]

~~that might be less me and more you tbf ~~

[pseudo hearth]

[keen sable]

it's literally guaranteed.
month 1: 4 from shops + arbiter
month 2: 4 from shops + arbiter, 7! from exchange
month 3: 3 + make up anything you missed in previous months
all guaranteed so far. add normal rng for even more leeway

[cunning bison]

i started with kronshadt event and am lower than u owo

[eternal moth]

You already said you're lazy, though, so that factors into it. Aurora's been active like crazy

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt say 7 from exchange in month two (unless you really wanted to rush) because getting the abyssals/hiddens is important too, but 3 or 4 is very doable

[cunning bison]

then again i casual

[sharp socket]

how do you get 5040 prints from exchange

[barren tapir]

could do more if you're willing to skip UR books ig

[cunning bison]

???

[barren tapir]

7! 7 factorial = 5040 it's math nerd joke

[cunning bison]

makes sense but really? (too early no math pls)

[turbid marsh]

personally thinking maybe you don't have the environment, like play on a emulator at work/school rather than him being a machine XD

[keen sable]

that's fair. you can make exchange up in month 3.

[barren tapir]

yes i do play with emulator

[eager mulch]

only the one ship revealed so far right?

[barren tapir]

AL is usually in the background of whatever i am doing

[hollow gust]

My alt account hit lvl100 in under a month, it's really easy

[pseudo hearth]

Should I just bulin up my Akagi, or should I go back to farm for dupes? Tbh, I really haven’t touched her since I got her like 5 or 6 years ago, but I figured I’d start building her up since we have Amagi CV now.

[silk sphinx]

I usually just put AL on my phone and set it aside

[humble summit]

ngl except for clearing stages its basically an afk game, i am playing during work

[barren tapir]

goose is the real machine

[silk sphinx]

why tf are you running two accs at the same time, way too much time

[barren tapir]

bro playing alt accounts and progressing lightning pace while managing his main still

[worldly pewter]

for tech sure
but to use nope

[sinful escarp]

btw for lunar new year we get the red envelopes with gems inside right? and do we all get the same amount of gems or is it rng?

[humble summit]

isnt it rng

[hollow gust]

I got bored after 2 months , by then I finished pr4 and Plymouth

[keen sable]

base is same, then very very tiny rng

[barren tapir]

it's not

[silk sphinx]

usually there's some rng at the beginning, but the total tends to be a constant so if you participate you'll get the same

[pseudo hearth]

I forget if the game even released with Commander levels

[barren tapir]

you can make 6 alts on the same account, one per server. just dont macro or other dumb bs

[sinful escarp]

ahhh, just wanted to be clear thanks guys

[hollow gust]

I needed to get the correct ships running so I can curb stomp newbies in PvP. New servers are always fun

[viscid swift]

it is, did it a bit before

[sinful escarp]

it takes too much time to have multiple accounts tbh. i made 3 accounts on different servers and its not worth it

i just wanted to see who has it easiest when starting, and imo its z23

[pseudo hearth]

Team Neptunia or no spine

[novel solstice]

In previous years, you were guaranteed to get 300 gems if you opened at least 15 envelopes. What order you'd get different amounts in could vary, so if looked random, but everyone who opened enough envelopes ended up with the same amount.

[white agate]

once account is settled you don't need too much work unless you want all meta equipement in all accounts

[barren tapir]

just imagine trying to hvar farm on multiple accounts at once

[storm heron]

I run two acc but the other acc is just login -> hm -> spend ap -> meta showdown -> 12-4 or event till no oil -> AoTN -> EoS -> quit

[sinful escarp]

imagine doing all events for 3 servers

[barren tapir]

i have successfully induced azur lane styled hellscape upon you

[white agate]

better than me doing only 1 pvp per day

[worldly pewter]

u can do it easily if u have a good pc cries in a garbo pc

[quartz jungle]

->Overcap->AoTN->Quit

[barren tapir]

[pseudo hearth]

Couldn’t be me

[storm heron]

bro wrong channel

[barren tapir]

it gives bulins and a whole bunch of ships, feels decent enough honestly

also the occasional cube

[humble summit]

huh cube?

[barren tapir]

rarely youll find a cube for 2000 merit in the shop

[white agate]

yep, also games forcing big pvp prizes upon people fail in the long run due to newbies who feels discourage

[novel solstice]

You buy cubes for 2k merit in the merit shop when you're really lucky.

[barren tapir]

check your shops often

[humble summit]

wtf didnt know

[sharp socket]

BB

[storm heron]

surely you will have fun getting aotn in your beloved server without sashi

[barren tapir]

i just do my exercises if i remember to do them and dont care otherwise, im only in it for gold bulins

[sharp socket]

if you must insist on CVs, yk2 enty implac/avp

[storm heron]

true, aotn is only 2.5k merit

[quartz jungle]

I'm pretty sure you can get AoTN with only perma ships

[white agate]

i do my exercises, promise myself to check and retire if i am losing, i lose

[worldly pewter]

i stopped doing pvp in maybe 5 months now i don't know why people are struggling with yellow bulins

[white agate]

idk, i only mlb useful tech ones

[barren tapir]

well you get like maybe 10 gold bulins per month and you usually get more than 2 gold ships per month until you get caught up on collection%

[turbid marsh]

well kear doesnt have to be dev30 if your yk2 is already maxed... that's just self damage improvement.

[worldly pewter]

i even forgot to get the medal shop bulins last month

[silk sphinx]

can someone refer me to a nakh/soyuz comp? for maihou

[quartz jungle]

I have 50+ who need gold bulin

[white agate]

better than me forgetting to buy from opsi shop and ending the season with 900k coins

[worldly pewter]

in order to get rid of ur bulins shortage i opted for the pity tech so that also helped alot with getting dupes

[storm heron]

people are blocked by cogs so nobody cares about bulins anymore

[tidal owl]

I have enough medals for one of the ships in the medal shop was generally my best pick? I have none of them

[barren tapir]

you can lvl120 like 4-5 gold ships per month from all cog sources, but only 2-3 to mlb

[viscid swift]

hardly, max limit breaking ships and thus bullins are still important

[turbid marsh]

kear saves you a spot from vanguard ara

[keen sable]

what hulls?

[worldly pewter]

i can actually agree to this very well
i run out of cog before going to the slow mode around the jp event

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I’ve never had that problem, the only way I could see that being a problem is if you’re farming everyone to 120 for the tech.

[turbid marsh]

i think there are some youtube videos / bilibili videos for taihoum, using amagi + z52/unzen + helena + kazagumo

[viscid swift]

and well guess what a lot of us are doing

[turbid marsh]

but that fleet has high requirement like 4-6 +13 dild.......i meant type 93 pure oxygen torpedo

[quartz jungle]

Still have 150k cogs

[storm heron]

[tech: cv rld 36 or more, bb rld 16 or more
fighters/oxy can be +10
if you don't have 4 +13 saiuns, amagi can use f8f + saiun + ju87d
all backline must be oathed 200 aff](#gameplay-help message)

[quartz jungle]

mostly because I was inactive for a while

[storm heron]

idk how I made that blue but ehh

[pseudo hearth]

Understandable. I still haven’t farmed all the PR ships, so I’m not there yet.

[forest palm]

brother that's a hyper link you're going to get knee cap'd for that

[barren tapir]

gold ship = 2200 cogs

raid = 6300/month
coredata = 1000/month
event = 2900/month (assuming 1 major OR rerun. going by current one as example, 1000 in shop, 1900 in milestone)
cruise pass = 200/month (400 per pass)

absolute baseline somewhere around 10400/month (enough for nearly 5) this isnt including commissions (youll get about 40/day from comms at least if active) and map drops, or other small sources

[storm heron]

also imo only soyuz needs oath, with 40 cv rld and 17 bb rld they will get torps in time as long both is using bearcat

[silk sphinx]

thanks i have them oathed

wait bearcat?

[storm heron]

the one nakh's using

[barren tapir]

meanwhile gold bulins is

medal shop = 2/month
weekly missions = 4/month
monthly login = 1/month
monthly event 3* clears = 1/month (usually)
merit = 2/month approximately

total = 10/month unless i missed something, which is 2.5/month mlb

[viscid swift]

either way I'm in need of both, deficit of over 100k cog chips and I need over 40 gold bullins still, and over 140 purple bullins

[silk sphinx]

oh that one

[storm heron]

yea it's the fastest fighter in that time frame that still deal damage

[mellow cape]

Can I ask you what your fleet tech is? I can't ever imagine needing that much lol

[barren tapir]

cheeky is endgame account tier

[turbid marsh]

probably around 30000 if its 10 gold ships + 30 purple huehue

[viscid swift]

No

[silk sphinx]

should I wait to +13 my second La9?

only got 700 plates

[viscid swift]

I would, wait to see what the next relevant bosss is

[turbid marsh]

ohhhhh 36000 thats pretty close to been done! very nice very nice

[silk sphinx]

yea i'll leave it for later

[viscid swift]

oh I am still a ways off

[mellow cape]

Yeah I'm no where close loll

[turbid marsh]

max is like 40500 or something, you are quite close, i cheer for u!

[storm heron]

how are you having so many ib lols

[quartz jungle]

Yeah that's Suchi

[viscid swift]

And this is just the stuff that needs limit breaking

[obsidian ivy]

Was it z52 with the hidden hedgehog or am I thinking another DD

[barren tapir]

well, we just had a major ironblood event...

[viscid swift]

to say nothing of the tech from 120 still

[turbid marsh]

hamman 2

[dusky narwhal]

how many Hvar things should I farm?

[brazen star]

eldridge has asw z52 is aa

[quartz jungle]

Eldridge Retrofit

[barren tapir]

as many or as little as you feel up for doing, it's a good plane but you only really need 2 (so 1 farmed)

[obsidian ivy]

Right Eldridge Ty, I was mixing up stuff

[barren tapir]

more is nice tho imo

[turbid marsh]

aim for like... 2, but 1 + 1 from exchange should be enough

[worldly pewter]

ideally getting 4 from drops
but even 2 can be very good

[mellow cape]

Are you just forever grinding 12-4, cheeky?

[viscid swift]

12-1 not 12-4 but pretty much

[dusky narwhal]

I already just finished one and have 9 prints, Im looking to invest more into CVs more though and I saw some people have like 6+, I do have like 85k oil and multiple fleets I could level

[keen sable]

people who can farm 5 don't ask if they should farm 5...

[undone plover]

cheeky if cog is issue why not do 13-1 low oil cog strat

[turbid marsh]

thats just people who got them from last york2 event, but in reality 2-3 should be well off.

[viscid swift]

one, I still have main fleets to level so I wanna wrap that up, 2
I'm not that much of a tryhard and my priority right now is mainly fleet tech and from that perspective I'm actually at a net positive for cog chips

[dusky narwhal]

alright, I guess I'll try to get 4, maybe 5 and stop there for fritz rumey and ykii

[mellow cape]

Mmm it's been around a year since I've grinded fleet tech, I'll start again perhaps since I've saved quite a bit of cog chips..

Checky, how are you keeping track of what to level

[viscid swift]

favorite tab is my custom filter for that

[mellow cape]

Ahhh yeah my one tripe about this game is organization. Okay I'll try that

From 25k fleet tech ATM, how many chips do you think I would need for 40k?

[stark quiver]

do i only gain morale when i have food in dorm

[obsidian ivy]

My cog chips will die... 3 URs to 125 in the making, 4 soon, and I have just 7600 left

[stark quiver]

is juggling 4 fleet with helps not enough time to recover

[keen sable]

restart

[keen sable]

do you have twelve dorm slots?

[pseudo hearth]

Wait, have you not LB’d Ranger?

[barren tapir]

i can tell you 3 isnt enough, not even close. 4 is likely not enough unless very slow clears. 5 should be enough

[silk sphinx]

tip for saving cog chips: become too busy to play and use your oil

[humble summit]

my general part is dwindling

[viscid swift]

I have, those are my 2 0 LB ones for low cost farming

[mellow cape]

ATM this is what I saved up, I've stopped last time cause of cog chips too but I'm hoping this will be enough to last me to the 40k mark....

[storm heron]

htt has 12 dorm slots ?

[barren tapir]

tip for saving cog chips: level stuff inefficiently

[weary gust]

If you're running constantly, yes, 4 isn't enough. You can do 2 3x runs with helps before a fleet is exhausted, swap around who is mob/boss, so you get 4 3x runs before you wipe out the morale of two fleets. That only takes ~45 minutes. An hour and a half to two hours then to wipe out the morale of 4 fleets.

[bold stream]

Hello all. For some reasom I got yorktown II in my first 11 summons. Musashi was at 185 summons while rumey is at 165 summons. I guess I do not have to pass YorktownII now.

My question is, do I prioritize YK2 or z52? I can buy I more UR bullin and will get 1 more from event milleage.

[stark quiver]

oh so thats why
thanks

[barren tapir]

this doesnt account for their regeneration though, after wiping 4 fleets at 1.5 hours, the first 2 will be recovered enough to do 1 more, after those, the last 2 can do 1 more, then theyll be probably dead or the first has 1 final run

[viscid swift]

oh yeah does anyone have an auto fleet for this EX

[weary gust]

Yeah you could scrape up the fleets for another run each, but at that point it's more effort than it's worth.

[barren tapir]

so closer to 2.5-3 hrs of constant runs before you run out entirely

[turbid marsh]

i mean you still have tickets, maybe you ll get more yorktown copies to finish both XD

[barren tapir]

yeah it is a bit of a hassle, might as well just do opsi or take a break it wont be much different

[bold stream]

Doubt it. But I can hope...

[barren tapir]

ask again after the event ends ^

[weary gust]

8 3x runs with helps is a lot of oil too, like, 270*x3x8x2

[hollow gust]

Ranger Helena

[turbid marsh]

always have hope. you got the monthly and cruise ones?

[pseudo hearth]

I almost have to ask… does this actually work?

[silk sphinx]

not for sane people

[weary gust]

It might

[pseudo hearth]

Will Helena survive long enough for Ranger to refresh?

[hollow gust]

It works with enoug resets

[turbid marsh]

just manual it

[silk sphinx]

ranger basically has the skill of low chance of immediately regaining a plane launch upon using one

[pseudo hearth]

I know

[barren tapir]

ranger is coping for excellent luck

but you know, in theory ranger beats every EX with ease lol

[pseudo hearth]

I was one of the early Ranger enjoyers.

[stark quiver]

yes

[silk sphinx]

as the number of attempts and time spent approaches infinity, the chance of ranger eventually succeeding approaches 1

[stark quiver]

fake copers

[pseudo hearth]

I always forget she’s double dive, since most of the early CVs were 1 of each plane type.

[weary gust]

What's Ranger's chance to reproc, 15%?

[storm heron]

this must be how uminoneko beat me last time

[barren tapir]

15% and 25%

quick takeoff is 15% iirc

even getting 2 procs is fairly uncommon

[worldly pewter]

u have no idea about neko's repeat passion

[weary gust]

3.75% chance of getting both in the same launch.

0.14% chance of getting it twice.

[wet badge]

IS THAT RANGER RETRO???????

[eager mulch]

is this uminoneko person in the room with us right now

[sweet delta]

Careful you might end up banned like me for touching EX https://youtu.be/jKGjM-eDR58

[rigid onyx]

ranger has infinite damage potential. prepare to see my .005% maihou comp

[hallow mountain]

Who should I MLB Fritz or Z52
Thing is they only need one more star but imo and at least from my experiences I think Fritz contributes more power for some reason and usually gets the MVP

[weary gust]

The quick takeoff is more important to proc though since it gives you another roll at proccing both, wheras the double launch alone ends the chain.

[barren tapir]

wait so suchi actually got banned for what?

[worldly pewter]

being very good

needs some nerf i guess

[weary gust]

Ignore fleet power. It means nothing.
Do not split UR bulins between URs. MLB one at a time.
MVP doesn't usually mean anything either.

[keen sable]

I'm not sure what that's saying about your 4 other ships

[turbid marsh]

really depends on what you have. you should be able to get 3 more, 1 from cruise, 1 from event 15000, one monthly.

[wet badge]

what gun do the main fleet use

[wet badge]

why did u get banned

[sweet delta]

It's shown in the video, and I got banned because I'm too good

[turbid marsh]

like what do you want to do with them, as well. taihoum? z52 functions similar to unzen. w15? z52 is a very very good frontline but not NEEDED, just very nice to have. rumey is best support ship, and best anti medium specialist cv for bosses...

[sweet delta]

[wet badge]

so they ban legit players??????

[fluid brook]

better not ask

[wet badge]

well i dont ever touch ex anyway

[pseudo hearth]

They have a whole wall of shame

[barren tapir]

i feel like i remember something about suchi getting an absurdly low EX score last event... but idk

also it's a temp ban isn't it?

[wet badge]

💀

[plain saffron]

[fluid brook]

Hi Nagami

[plain saffron]

Hi

[storm heron]

really? u got banned? I don't think I see anything there, is it in the video?

[weary gust]

His score wasn't on the list at the end of the video, but that ranking chart only updates once per hour so if that's what he's using as proof of the ban that's kinda lul.

[plain saffron]

Leaderboard update per hour yes, own score should still show up

[barren tapir]

the video is from 2022 lol

but maybe it's a different stig

[plain saffron]

That means the score not submitting I'm guessing, maybe auto flag

Or good old desync

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

Guess this means I'm banned/s

[plain saffron]

Can't believe whole gph in next wall of shame

[viscid swift]

And the fleet for anyone interested , full auto

[barren tapir]

so basically if ur too good at AL they can ban you by accident huh

[fast steppe]

is musashi's 3rd skill a priority to level up or can I just leave her first 2 skills levelled and level someone else

[undone plover]

level all

[hallow mountain]

Aight thanks

[undone plover]

priority depends what u want first
if u need to level someone else for sth urgent then do that sure

[barren tapir]

isnt her 3rd skill pretty important? bet she dies a lot quicker without 30% reduction

[fast steppe]

not going for w14 yet

[hallow mountain]

Yeah LMAO but I'm farming for Agir atm so I need good iron blood ships

[barren tapir]

it's also a strong crossfleet

[hallow mountain]

I finished cruise, about to get the event one, and the monthly not yet

[turbid marsh]

this too

[wet badge]

why jeanne and ancho and not napoli

[turbid marsh]

napoli has less smoke and uptime is like... in my memory, not that good

[viscid swift]

0s after the battle starts and every 20s after that, give each vanguard ship an HP barrier. Each barrier can block up to 1.5% (6%) of Jeanne's maximum HP, and lasts up to 8s.
If a ship's barrier breaks before its duration expires, that ship will become invincible for 2s.
If a ship's barrier expires without breaking, heal that ship for 70 hitpoints.

When this ship fires her Torpedoes: deploys a smokescreen and a barrier. Smokescreen lasts 5s and increases Evasion Rate by 20% (40%) for all your ships in it (does not stack with other smokescreen skills). The barrier lasts 5s and can absorb DMG up to 1.5% (6%) of this ship's max HP. If this barrier is destroyed before it expires: this ship gains 100% Evasion Rate for 2s.

[wet badge]

o

what torp do i use with ancho

[wind hazel]

550mm twin

[stone sluice]

What?
My EX score has never been showed
Wasn’t that normal?

[pseudo hearth]

And if the only BB shown here I have is Bisk2?

[viscid swift]

just about any high damage main fleets work really, in fact 2 CVs with a relatively fast reload would have been better

[wet badge]

blue one?

[wind hazel]

yes

[wet badge]

how often do they launch

[wind hazel]

0 rld

[pseudo hearth]

Would Nano/Haku/Amagi2 do the trick?

[viscid swift]

you need a bb

[wet badge]

why would you keep it on +7

[wind hazel]

because that's the max...

[wet badge]

HUH

[pseudo hearth]

Unfortunately no Musashi. Just dodged me both during the intital run and rerun.

[wet badge]

I NEVER KNEW THAT

[wind hazel]

blue up to 7, purple up to 11, gold rainbow up to 13

[viscid swift]

well this is a medium and not a heavy armor boss

[pseudo hearth]

Uh, for UR BBs, my only MLB lvl 125 ones are NJ and FdG

[viscid swift]

either is weaker but works, I'd take NJ

[pseudo hearth]

My Bisk2 is MLB, but she's not 120 yet.

[viscid swift]

rip, I doubt the level disadvantage makes her better but you can see what happens after trying with NJ

[blissful hamlet]

Is 6 hvar enough or should I get more?

[pseudo hearth]

So, it'd be what, NJ Flag with Nano and Amagi?

[fluid brook]

moar, as much as possible

[viscid swift]

actually probably Haku not Shinano but yes

[hollow gust]

More then 5 Hvars is useless as fk

[pseudo hearth]

It's not FS5 Haku, btw

[viscid swift]

try both and see what happens then I guess

[humble summit]

doing champagne now, which pr i do next

[blissful hamlet]

You clearly don't use indomitable

[hollow gust]

Why would I use her

[wind hazel]

indomitable?

[blissful hamlet]

When they release tiny tims fighters, indomitable will outdamage shinano vs heavy trust me

[storm heron]

indomitable is 2021 ahh antilight

[hollow gust]

Indomi is for the broke people

[wind hazel]

hvar
outdamage shinano vs heavy

what am i missing

[tender lotus]

Is 3 hvar enough?

[storm heron]

was I right though, indomi was good for med and light before? or kimocheese wrong again?

[wind hazel]

it can be enough, go for more if you want

[blissful hamlet]

I was talking about tiny tims on heavy, but indomitable is one of the op rocket CV since she has 2 fighter slots. Optimal rocket fleet should have 6 rocket plane or 6 hvar

[runic bluff]

how a +1 rld affects cv airstrike?

[wind hazel]

i think you are wrong

[storm heron]

rumey be like

[tender lotus]

Faster reload

[stark quiver]

puts it off a tad bit

[strong tartan]

you can get 40 pulls just from using tickets right?

[stark quiver]

unless youre running some giga fine tuned stuff, it shouldnt be that bad

[viscid swift]

no because among other things, you can now have 2 Skyraiders
Kearsarge also exists

[runic bluff]

like 0.xx? seconds off?

[undone plover]

44

[storm heron]

can make your meta 4 strike from impossible to possible

[soft raft]

2nd Skyraider

[strong tartan]

okay great

[tender lotus]

What's the best anti light cv fleet?

[wet badge]

should i research drake

[sharp socket]

indomie has 6x140% fighters so shouldn't suck alot, and has some self buff also

[runic bluff]

any pr6-7 you still didnt do yet?

[turbid marsh]

yes, for the fleet tech

[stark quiver]

kear,yk2,fritz/nakh/implac/enty

[wet badge]

doing napoli rn

[sharp socket]

naturally she loses to rainbow but what can you do as a dps

[turbid marsh]

after you finish like every other pr

[wind hazel]

1 rld shaves off around 0.03-0.04 for cv

[sharp socket]

nakhi is indomie but 9 planes vs 8 planes and UR statline

[wet badge]

after nap and an la9 should i research pr 6

i need more rainbow vanguards

[storm heron]

wait how is implac better for supp fleet again? is it better aviation?

[tender lotus]

I want to use this against light arbiter when it comes

[stark quiver]

cool
should work fine

[tender lotus]

More fighter

[storm heron]

[tender lotus]

Better intercept

[primal silo]

is the x3 on hard and x5 on easy worth the oil?
Or I have to make specialized teams?

(which is then not worth)

[viscid swift]

if you're farming for HVARs then you don't really touch either

[storm heron]

you will get so much points just from d3

[primal silo]

Oh yeah
there is HVAR blueprints

[tender lotus]

To farm point that multipliers is good

[storm heron]

[pseudo hearth]

I do also have Implacable, if she’d be a better swap in.

[tender lotus]

Is Wyvern still the best tb for intercept?

[wind hazel]

yes

[viscid swift]

no because the boss is stationary

[pseudo hearth]

Ok

[odd thicket]

is there any way to play the game with no dock space? not really willing to buy any or retire any of my ships

[turbid marsh]

correct me if im wrong but isn't that the entire point of playing this game?

[odd thicket]

i thought it was collecting wives

[undone plover]

try and get f2p gems that u still dont have
next week event should give 300 gems for more dock space

[turbid marsh]

then how do you collect wives with no dock space?

[undone plover]

and guild tech gives 30 dock space

[odd thicket]

i cant really play the unfinished stuff

[undone plover]

why is that

[odd thicket]

0 dock space

[undone plover]

can u use bulins and dupes u have? or have u already done that

[odd thicket]

no bulins/dupes

other than the ones i oathed

[undone plover]

wait for LNY then if u cant retire stuff

[ivory pawn]

Retire easy to reobtain Commons/Rare?

[rigid onyx]

yeah if you have 0 dock space as f2p due to gem mismanagement you essentially lock yourself until you swipe for $5

[viscid swift]

well you have to retire ships or buy more dock space

[odd thicket]

im not even f2p most of my ships have skins lol

[viscid swift]

then just buy some dock space then, that simple

[odd thicket]

im just not willing to pay for dock space that shits stupid

[turbid marsh]

how come you guys are interpreting his question different than mine? he said he doesn't want to use his gem to unluck more dock space. he just want to play the game with full dock

[viscid swift]

well I hate to break it to you but if you want to collect you need to buy dock space

[forest palm]

200 to 300 dock space worth of gems doesn't even cost that much

[worldly pewter]

which is impossible

[viscid swift]

you get enough gems as a F2P to cover the quality of life stuff but I suspect your allotment of F2P gems has been spent elsehwere

[rigid onyx]

It's like asking how to display paintings when you're homeless; you need walls

[turbid marsh]

so how do you plan to collect future wives with... full dock?

[odd thicket]

i just wanna play the game

[hollow gust]

Honestly that's such a perfect analogy

[viscid swift]

then I don't know what to tell you

[turbid marsh]

but the game doesn't let you play with full dock though, unless you plan to just go for op-si

[viscid swift]

either way you're going about this in a very illogical manner while an event is going on with good gear to farm from it

[turbid marsh]

oh i get it! just play the game by clicking on your waifus. you don't have to let them combat.

[hollow gust]

Whelp 3:30 is the best time I can get for CM

[undone plover]

if this is is supposed to be a rhetorical question to complain about the game then pls do that in another channel

[odd thicket]

its not im legitimatley locked out of playing the game currently

[hollow gust]

Buy dock slots , idk what to tell you

[rigid onyx]

The gameplay loop is essentially designed to have all your f2p gems spent on dock space

[viscid swift]

retire ships or buy more dock space, those are your only 2 options

take one or leave it

[odd thicket]

i guess i just quit till they let me play idk

[wind hazel]

ok bye

[stark quiver]

they never will lol

[hollow gust]

Everyone from newbies to whales buy them , it's kinda your fault if you don't spent freebie gems on QOL upgrades

[viscid swift]

well goodbye by then, we'll see you again never

[turbid marsh]

i would suggest you find other collecting games that allows you to play without buying dock/bag/character slots

[odd thicket]

as i said before im not f2p

[lucid hamlet]

freebie -> qol
purchased gems -> whatever else

[rigid onyx]

I mean the game is generous with the gacha essentially having the full monetization scheme being skins, rings, and dock space.

[hollow gust]

But there are still freebie gems you get from completing the game . Those buy dock slots . Doesn't matter if you whale or f2p

I have 30+ skins , still spend free gems on dock slot

[runic bluff]

lmao wtf is this

[turbid marsh]

i feel like i am interpreting his... er.. statements a tad bit different than yall...

[lucid hamlet]

how are you interpreting it

[odd thicket]

i mean my problem with buying dock slots is like what am i even paying for really

200kb of space

[hollow gust]

The ability to store your fucking ships

[viscid swift]

you're paying for the ability to house more ships

[turbid marsh]

he wants a way to play the game with full dock, which is impossible. thats it. he aint looking for ways to buy dock space, so telling him using free gem or stuff is like, not relevant to his question.

[hollow gust]

That's not what he means , tf???

[viscid swift]

that's just how the game works, it needs to make it's money somehow and it's certainly not from pulls

[odd thicket]

i buy skins

[hollow gust]

Dude doesn't want to buy dock slots but still wants to play the skin

[rain vine]

i mean, if you really want to go there, buying a skin is literally just paying for a png

[wind hazel]

this has to be a troll

[viscid swift]

he's complaining he can't do things like sorties because he refuses to buy dock space or retire ships is what he's doing

[runic bluff]

seeing he plays nikke and gfl2, he is hoping for not needing to buy dock space using gems and just let people collect x shipgirls they want

[primal silo]

[runic bluff]

that's how I see it

[turbid marsh]

this. that's what i interpret him first.

[undone plover]

which is not the purpose of this channel

[storm heron]

well the problem is, pulls in azur lane is very f2p friendly, they gotta made money somehow

[lucid hamlet]

the channel will tell you to buy dock slot

[viscid swift]

he's not asking for help at this point, he's just complaining

[lucid hamlet]

either current state or genshin god awful rng or something liek that

[viscid swift]

and refusing to take the practical suggestions we have for his problem

[sharp socket]

i don't like buying dockspace with gems either which is why i spend my f2p gems on dockspace and paid gems on skins

[viscid swift]

frankly, I have no patience for someone who just refuses to listen to any sort of reason

[sharp socket]

and also retire ships in a measured way

[odd thicket]

i mean tbh the reason ive heard is "just buy the dock slots dummy"

[runic bluff]

honestly I just say "just use free gems for dock space" problem solved, if you complain more then its on you then

[stark quiver]

which is all you need to know

[storm heron]

except without the dummy

[bold cove]

May i ask Aquila CV use anywhere in end game contend?

[turbid marsh]

i feel like that is what he meant though, he doesn't consider buying space, guild, and retiring as option. i feel like what i interpretted is pretty close...

[hollow gust]

?????????????????????????

[viscid swift]

she's one of the best mobbing main fleets for campaign

[storm heron]

so what are we cooking again?

[stark quiver]

yah
mob fleets paired with unicorn and musashi

[rain vine]

secondary healer

[rigid onyx]

I can't play the game without dock slots

Buy dock slots

what more reason is there? nobody is going to argue against the moral quandaries of microtransactions

[primal silo]

You complain about dockspace, and the solution is buy dockspace

[runic bluff]

I dont see a dummy tho

[sharp socket]

there's workarounds like make a diff profile on another server and collect there

[lucid hamlet]

related question what is the gem income after getting all the guaranteed gems
Like how much can you make from other sources in like a month for a semi active player

[viscid swift]

he literally said earlier he won't retire ships

[bold cove]

W14 15?

[stark quiver]

anywhere

[primal silo]

[bold cove]

I got her during rerun

[elfin hollow]

depends if event is good on you, u get gem commisions for like 1-60 gems lol

[viscid swift]

in a year you can expect about maybe a little over 1k gems

[hollow gust]

Aquila is Musashi best friend , those two make the best campaign combo ingame

[lucid hamlet]

😭

[runic bluff]

just reacting to this

[lucid hamlet]

how rare are those commissions

[odd thicket]

I have used free gems for it tho

[viscid swift]

but that's dependent on you being around for a number of key events

[rigid onyx]

which is why you have no dock capacity.

[elfin hollow]

they are rare, no data on them

[storm heron]

sound like a you problem

[viscid swift]

we mean spend all of your gems as a F2P on dock space and a few dorm slots

[primal silo]

Not enough for skins, but good for dockspace

[turbid marsh]

correct me if im wrong though, interpretation can be quite different

[undone plover]

there is no reason to let this go longer
wait for LNY u get 300 gem and u will buy dock space

[viscid swift]

no way in hell you have that dock and you haven't even progressed beyond like W4 in the main campiagn

[hollow gust]

There is nothing different you can interpret? Dude wants to do the impossible , simple as that

[lucid hamlet]

life of f2p gacha gamer

[rigid onyx]

f2p gem income is carefully balanced st. you are basically designed to only be able to spend it on dock space

[odd thicket]

i dont have enough tbh

[viscid swift]

what the actual fuck

[runic bluff]

lmao wtf??

[turbid marsh]

yeah, basically. lol.

[lucid hamlet]

if ive already wasted like 1.3k how cooked am I

[elfin hollow]

wasted from what? dock or dorm space

[viscid swift]

eh, you'll survive but things will be a bit difficult on the quality of life side of stuff

[primal silo]

💳

[sharp socket]

i got to w12 with 180 dock space so its not a problem

[wet badge]

id honestly prioritise dorm slots

[rigid onyx]

normally people reccomend 2nd dorm floor + 3rd dorm slot --> rest on dock space

[slow fox]

The money you buy gems with is used to commission art for better skins, people. Make it happen.

[rigid onyx]

full fleet for morale in dock is kinda needed for farming eventually

[storm heron]

crazy financial opinions from some people here iykyk

[lucid hamlet]

[turbid marsh]

i would suggest you to take a look at... errr... his previous statements.

[wet badge]

tbh 3 slots for skill training is all you need

[wind hazel]

2*

[sharp socket]

if you have 3rd slot and 2nd floor just touch grass for 3 hours every session

[viscid swift]

2 not 3

[storm heron]

remember how I proposed elitism

[hollow gust]

Why would you buy skill training , the 3rd slot is useless as fuuuuck

[primal silo]

I'm not f2p, and I spend on dockspace cause I wanna collect
I just started buying skins recently

Also oath packs quite regularly

[storm heron]

should have no problem then

[wet badge]

yeah its low priority but once i got my 3rd i never really needed more

[primal silo]

430 dockspace

[hollow gust]

You never need more then 2

[sharp socket]

i could get more dockspace if i work a little overtime

just think of it in that way and everything is ok

[lucid hamlet]

do i break f2p for azur lane
or do i maintain f2p gacha gamer status

[wet badge]

well i had a few gems i didnt need

[runic bluff]

I have 620 dockspace being f2p alone

[odd thicket]

its honestly been so long since ive had over like 10+ dock space available

[hollow gust]

But more dock slots

[viscid swift]

rookie numbers

[elfin hollow]

thats cap

[primal silo]

[storm heron]

e and i is far bro

[turbid marsh]

but what do you gain from f2p gacha gamer status?

[storm heron]

nah no way lmao goose

[primal silo]

Should've gave em to me

[lucid hamlet]

i have no idea

[viscid swift]

All as a f2p

[hollow gust]

The I and the o are next to each other tf?

[runic bluff]

well not entirely f2p....50 dock space for spending like 20$ total

[wind hazel]

did they lie when they say you are no longer f2p cheeky

[rigid onyx]

it's all a subjective question based on your financial situation and opinions on microtransactions in general

[turbid marsh]

then spend as you feel like it heehee

[sharp socket]

60 dock space is $15 usd

[viscid swift]

all that dock space was obtained as a F2P

[wind hazel]

what did you whaled on

[stark quiver]

dorm

[viscid swift]

5th dorm slot

[sharp socket]

now whether or not you have 15 usd to spend on mtx is a different story

[stark quiver]

i watched the scene unfold, caused irreversible damage to the matrix

[storm heron]

oh cheeky's no longer f2p...

[runic bluff]

im a dumdum, I bought gems back in the days I dont know youre not supposed to buy that 300 gems cubes in shop

[primal silo]

[wet badge]

why not all 6

[wind hazel]

too expensive

[runic bluff]

anyway do rumey good for w15 support??

[stark quiver]

expensive/uneeded

[viscid swift]

because it's too expensive

[storm heron]

that's what I thought until OCD kicks in

[viscid swift]

the best

[sharp socket]

its like 1200 for the last one iirc

[viscid swift]

yep

[runic bluff]

who are the best to slot in w15 support then besides rumey??

[stark quiver]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[primal silo]

Same

[viscid swift]

Nakimov and Implacable

[wet badge]

its pretty good when ur grinding, you can put 2 fleets which is needed for w12

[viscid swift]

whether you can afford to spare 3 UR CVs for support fleet duty though is another matter

[eager mulch]

Rumey ain’t even top 3 acv smh

[runic bluff]

I mean I have all the UR cv the game has atm

[viscid swift]

sure, go ahead then

[wind hazel]

your other fleet only lose 2 morale...

[worldly pewter]

indomi yk2 are the top ones i think then lusty little lusty and implacable i think i saw implacable used
then indep and langley for poverty

[storm heron]

abdou?

[wet badge]

you can swap to the other fleet when one gets low on morale

[viscid swift]

I also only have this many main fleets left to level anyway

[rigid onyx]

subs in attack mode dont cost oil right (or whatever mode they just % damage without showing up in battle)

[arctic aspen]

does anyone here have rld / avi fleet tech?

[wind hazel]

you will still run out of morale quicker than they can recover

[crisp raven]

correct., moving them on the oveworld or calling into battle uses oil. not the prestrike they do

[thin nova]

why when I do D3, it keeps showing me story?

[viscid swift]

no

[arctic aspen]

[storm heron]

you memorize all of them

[arctic aspen]

knowing him, probably

[turbid marsh]

i believe wiki actually has a program for locating which fleet tech you desire

[viscid swift]

all the relevant ones pretty much

[arctic aspen]

[storm heron]

cause there's like a lot of dd rld no?

[viscid swift]

well I haven't memorized that

[crisp raven]

reruns take their original form with very few, if any, updates. so this event uses the old story map system

[turbid marsh]

wait i think that's chinese wiki (bilibili) that contains that function

[eager mulch]

there is only one amagi-chan

[worldly pewter]

from that question u can tell that the asker wanted some relevant rld

[wet badge]

ok

[arctic aspen]

I wish I had a fleet scanner like genshin arti scanner to easier manage what I have and dont have 😭

[primal silo]

How much gems for 3* campaign stage?

[rigid onyx]

do i pull for northampton 2 hit tech i only have like 150 cubes left, althought I have all other URs so i dont have to worry about rerun Urs

[brazen star]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ best fleet tech tracker

[hollow gust]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[storm heron]

I mean they look kinda weird not filtering out the cvs

[hollow gust]

Awww comeon, I was a second off

[viscid swift]

you're both wrong anyway, the superior/not buggy one
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[keen sable]

wait so they really want dd avi?

[arctic aspen]

never seen this one before

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

[hollow gust]

Ew, that’s inferior

[brazen star]

personally i like the other ui

[arctic aspen]

Oh whats this import and export for

[hollow gust]

Plus I have all my data on retro so why not

[quartz jungle]

All DD 120 Rld tech are Sakura ships, and Nowaki doesn't give Rld tech

[arctic aspen]

I still need to do it manually dont I

[wind hazel]

i still use retropaint for tech, lars one refreshes the page every time i click something

[viscid swift]

so do I but I can only take this so many times

[stark quiver]

lars is too colorful and makes my brain hurt

[lucid hamlet]

is there a guide on extreme poverty/blue equipment options
I can only find guides for high tier equipments

[hollow gust]

Ectl

[wind hazel]

i swear that's a chrome issue

[runic bluff]

it saves a csv file that you can use to transfer your local data to other browser/device

[hollow gust]

Yeaaah, used that for years and never happened to me

[brazen star]

the only bug i get is it sometimes only shows a single line of ships but it goes away with f5

[wind hazel]

happened to me a lot in the past

[storm heron]

there's a poverty guide I forgot where

[hollow gust]

Cheeky has a shit device

[stark quiver]

i use opera, havent had any problems

[arctic aspen]

on the retro one? I have a bug where it doesnt show all the ships

[brazen star]

yea that one

[hollow gust]

I got one good roll of 3:30 and now it's full of 3:50s

[odd thicket]

i think i had the wrong viewpoint on dock space earlier
as i dont wish to retire the ships I have now, it is time I retire to a island with my ship wives

[lucid hamlet]

im desperate for plane options especially

[viscid swift]

literally no one cares, go talk in #al-general

[arctic aspen]

[odd thicket]

i care

[sharp socket]

cheeky going for the kill

[stark quiver]

if youre new, use any planes u have, blue purple, open tech boxes for better gear
make sure to craft up to purple

[storm heron]

yahahaha

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, #al-general now

[odd thicket]

literally nobody cares

[inner delta]

lol

[storm heron]

uh oh

[wind hazel]

[runic bluff]

oh no

[hollow gust]

Help ban speedrun

[inner delta]

better listen to cheeky

[odd thicket]

i mean if im not allowed to speak about my questions whats the point

[runic bluff]

its not a question tho at this point if you still talk about that dockspace stuff

[lucid hamlet]

am I still at the "use whatever you got" stage as my ships are starting to get to level 70+?
not sure what counts as early game/mid game

[storm heron]

what is your question again?

[odd thicket]

my original question was what options do I have being at 0 dock space to play the game

[runic bluff]

which is already answered, expand dock space

[odd thicket]

shoot i forgot while being unwilling to purchase dock space or retire ships

[stark quiver]

youre still early, use w/e you have right now
cant be too picky

[brazen star]

you can be daily raid and opsi main + pvp

[sharp socket]

make a profile on another server

[storm heron]

then there's nothing you can do

shrimple answer

[crisp raven]

you cant even opsi with a full dock. game gives you a full dock warning even though opsi drop no ships.

[wind hazel]

i think even opsi locks you out could be wrong

[brazen star]

o gg

[runic bluff]

yeah it locks you out

[storm heron]

discussion over right?

[odd thicket]

opsi does lock you out

[brazen star]

surely u can spare 1 slot

[storm heron]

bye bye 🔫

[runic bluff]

can confirm the opsi lock out when full dock space

[crisp raven]

i think i saw you say you were not f2p. buy the trade license. 8 bucks a month, half the price of a streaming service, and spend the 500 gems on dock. 2 months is 50 slots for ~15.

[turbid marsh]

oh its him again

[keen sable]

I have a simpler solution. Whale for a better guild. who even gets stuck at 186.

[runic bluff]

which is harder: w13-x h or w15 in preparation??

[forest palm]

this is easy to fix, and you don't even have to refresh

[hollow gust]

W15 is a lot a lot harder

[odd thicket]

I can james I could delete one of the new event ships I just built which is where I realized I ran into this issue but then it occured to me I had just spent resources to obtain that ship and became opposed to that idea almost immediately as that felt like a bad time

[hollow gust]

[brazen star]

wait for cny free gems?

[turbid marsh]

w15 is harder, by a margin. you have to care for subs while dealing with plane sea

[sharp socket]

your options are:

1. retire aggressively and push campaign to get gems to spend on dock space
2. spend money
3. create new profile on different server and collect ships/skins there

[hollow gust]

Hes never buying dock slots

[brazen star]

he can pretend manjuu is giving dock slots instead of gems

[odd thicket]

i already have in the past u can see here this is above the normal dock amount

[hollow gust]

This is so stupid

[sharp socket]

4th shitty option is to wait for CNY/anni to give free gems for dockspace

[viscid swift]

wait how?

[turbid marsh]

i thought it was already established that his options are basically make alt accounts or play other collecting gacha games that do not need to buy character slots.

[sharp socket]

if you cant do any of these or are not willing to, then there is zero other options for you period

[runic bluff]

wanna know the 5th???? spam 2-1 hoping for the gem commission to appear

[odd thicket]

Forgot img sry

[storm heron]

didn't you post one earlier?

[forest palm]

usually going to the tech summary, or settings itself fixes it for me

[sharp socket]

you still need dockspace for 2-1

[lucid hamlet]

he did

[hollow gust]

Actually not even a flex , look at the lolis

[keen sable]

why would i need to see that trophy image again?

[viscid swift]

I'll try and see if it works

[odd thicket]

i know theres not enough

[odd thicket]

its showing my dock space and that i did purchase some in the past using free gems

[runic bluff]

probably guild still have dock space not maxed to answer the latter

[storm heron]

welp this discussion are gonna be long if we include personal opinions

[runic bluff]

its probably a him problem soooo

[lucid hamlet]

are there any limited guild ships worth getting

[odd thicket]

I will it just feels bad to pay like 5 dollars or whatever the cost is for 5 slots so I try to keep it to free gems but accidentally built too many ships on this event to keep that up

[turbid marsh]

oh my god did i just ask that? i dont want to keep the conversation going.

[viscid swift]

other than for collection no

[viscid swift]

where did all of your free 2 play gems go then

with your dock you should easily be in W12 at which point you should have been able to earn a few thousand as a free to play

[odd thicket]

dock space/dorm/ i accidentally bought gear space like 5 times one time

[runic bluff]

ehh

[keen sable]

hence the whale. go buy a L10 guild if all refuse to let you join.

[rigid onyx]

aversion to dock space but buying gear space is actually crazy

[storm heron]

let's give them the benefit of the doubt

and again, I believe Celerio answered them and provide multiple solutions

[sharp socket]

theres many guilds out there with max dock

[odd thicket]

U guys mean this yes

[runic bluff]

join a guild then

[storm heron]

some guilds give /10 nvm I was wrong

[sharp socket]

just poke around in #1246721562741178410 and youll get one

[odd thicket]

its already maxed tho?

[sharp socket]

max is 15 for 30 dockspace

[viscid swift]

no, max is 30 additional dock slots

[odd thicket]

how do i do that

[sharp socket]

get a better guild

[odd thicket]

im not in a guild thats all me

[viscid swift]

join a guild that actually has dock tech fully developed

[sharp socket]

then join a better guild

[odd thicket]

How can I level up my dock slots in the guild interface to get +30?

[rigid onyx]

you've been offered a solution already

[turbid marsh]

you are really nice kind and generous...

[storm heron]

first step, join a better guild

the upgrade button will show up

[odd thicket]

i appriciate the advice but thats not really a answer

[viscid swift]

what....

[lucid hamlet]

i think hes in public guild

[runic bluff]

it is tho??

[plain saffron]

If you're not in guild you can only buy from public guild which is not maxed and more expensive

[sharp socket]

it is an answer except you don't want to accept it

[plain saffron]

So the answer is join a proper guild

If you don't like the answer then just don't enjoy the benefits

[odd thicket]

you see @plain saffron gave a answer instead of just telling me to join a guild ty

[plain saffron]

[runic bluff]

I cant

[sharp socket]

???

[turbid marsh]

?

[storm heron]

actual piece of cake

[viscid swift]

what

[runic bluff]

lmao wtf

[inner delta]

what the fuck am i reading

[odd thicket]

you are acting like its innate knowlege someone should have that joining a guild magically makes the upgrade button appear

[crisp raven]

@inner delta i really think we need your assistane.

[storm heron]

that is the same guy who offered solutions to obtain gems

[turbid marsh]

you are a really nice and patient person, i whole heartly think you are.

[storm heron]

the audacity is just insane at this point

[inner delta]

dude if you are just dissing people, ill actually throw you out from here

[crisp raven]

oh, sorry for the ping. didnt see you typing as i was

[runic bluff]

I mean several people already gave tons of advice

[plain saffron]

I guess it's because i gave full explanation, do this and why, instead of just do this

Because from his perspective he already have the buy dock slot screen

[odd thicket]

people saying "go joina better guild" without telling me why isnt giving advice

[rigid onyx]

?????

[viscid swift]

if you wanted to know why you could have just asked us to elobaorate/explain?

[lucid hamlet]

they said joining a better guild means you can upgrade dock slots more...

[viscid swift]

and we already did touch on why

[odd thicket]

i assumed they thought i was already in a guild

which i wasn't

[odd thicket]

again those are all replies assuming im already in a guild which doesnt apply to me

[viscid swift]

guilds don't start off with any bonuses fully unlocked, it's something that needs to be developed in order to get access to them

[plain saffron]

2nd ship announced?

[lucid hamlet]

the first message in that screenshot says "join a guild..."

[storm heron]

is public guild a guild?

[odd thicket]

"that actually has"

[viscid swift]

whether you're in the public guild or a shitty one it doesn't really matter

[plain saffron]

Have tech and daily donation only

[viscid swift]

the point still remains the same

[plain saffron]

Technically everyone is in public guild i guess because everyone can buy from them

[viscid swift]

public guild/shitty guild will not have dock tech fully unlocked

[plain saffron]

Yet

[viscid swift]

so you join a guild, whether you're in one or not already that actually has it fully unlocked

[turbid marsh]

oh my god did he actually quoted 'that actually has ' and said 'assuming im already in a guide which doesn't apply to me'

[storm heron]

pretty sure they literally choose whether to join a guild or public guild for the options

I remember this because I sometimes get kicked because of inactivity on littleE alt

[odd thicket]

someone said that the person said for me to join a guild I was pointing out they were reffering to joining a different guild to the one they thought i was in

[plain saffron]

Public guide is just a page
If you're in public guild you can still join other guild

[viscid swift]

at this point you're being pedantic

[rigid onyx]

i think you just have a poor combination of reading comprehension and abrasion to put it mildly

[plain saffron]

Did anyone figured public guild upgrade pattern after nerezza tried

[inner delta]

the fucking msg nagami gave isn't even more explained, it's just longer

[odd thicket]

when people tell me to join a different guild that has better stuff when im not even in one and make assumptions that I would know why how would I know xd

[turbid marsh]

literally the same. whether or not you were in a guild, or without a guild, they want you to join a guild that has max dock space upgrade. perhaps you are having trouble understanding?

[inner delta]

you can just ask? instead of "nah that's not the answer im looking for"

[odd thicket]

my point being is that I would have just leveld the tech myself if it was a option which nobody had explained wasnt till you can delete dorm 3d

[agile harness]

z52 is a good option to use in stage 13 or i should use a CL instead of her?

[viscid swift]

she's one of the best for W15 so yes very good for W13

[rigid onyx]

z52 is a premier vanguard option in w13

[turbid marsh]

so you are having trouble understanding the entire function of guild. got it.

[odd thicket]

i thought potentially i just needed to level the other things first

[storm heron]

yes she is better than most CLs

[agile harness]

[odd thicket]

ive never used the guild tab lmao

[keen sable]

technically it's probably not a quicker solution than wait for lny. wait'll they find out there's an probation period on benefitting from a guild

[turbid marsh]

then now do you understand? or do you need somebody to give you a quick lesson on what guild does?

[odd thicket]

nah we coo

[viscid swift]

the issue with all these solutions though is that they are but a temporary fix

[runic bluff]

god knows when the game will increase guild dock space again is the issue

[viscid swift]

because inevitably this will happen again down the line

new ships are always being added

[odd thicket]

hey ive been doing pretty good for the 4 years ive been playing using the free gems just the rapid fire of new ships recently caught me off guard

[rigid onyx]

180 dock space playing for 4 years is

[runic bluff]

yikes

[agile harness]

is she used in mob or boss fleets, i ask for put eldridge in one of the other fleets

[viscid swift]

the fact you've been playing for 4 years and only managed enugh gems for 20 additional dock space is uhh interesting

[odd thicket]

Actually is it 5 years lmao

[turbid marsh]

good. then read over all the things they have suggested for whatever questions you had, then continue with your gaming journey. i think people here do not want to see another question related to dock space from you.

[viscid swift]

she can do either just fine same with eldridge

[cunning bison]

when is bgf 109s bttr than other rocket fighters (also la-9 too)

[storm heron]

when you have no la-9 or in light armored fights

[rigid onyx]

if no La-9, bgf is the bis medium rocket plane, and quite decent in light (worse than hvars). really bad mods on heavy armor though

[storm heron]

wait huh la9 > bfg light, interesting, I was wrong

[cunning bison]

hmm so for using against light AND medium wld hvar or bgf be bttr overall?

[quartz jungle]

Only in damage, in practice timing (such as any 4 strike attempt) you will be forced to use BF109G (or HVAR)

[viscid swift]

weighted to whichever of the 2 you'll fight against more often and/or is more difficult

[sharp socket]

+13 bfg is very slightly better than +10 hvar at light

[cunning bison]

whats the flex slot heavy about may i ask

[sharp socket]

flex refers to flexible

[viscid swift]

oh, Amagi's first slot is pretty much the reason why that exists

[cunning bison]

ohhh ic but whats w the selection of planes there

[viscid swift]

What's the confusing part?

[cunning bison]

wait no nvm mb brain fart

[quartz jungle]

Isn't Saiun > BF109G for medium for her specifically?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[cunning bison]

huh whats the reason

[viscid swift]

But as I said I'm not accounting individual skills for that

[viscid swift]

She buffs torp damage from IJN ships by 18% I think

[cunning bison]

ic ty

[storm heron]

what happened to grandma

[fallow sedge]

Which ur carrier? This si my current fleet and I'm currently at 10-3

[viscid swift]

Uhhh

[pseudo saffron]

Should I start with the normal or hard stages in the event?

[viscid swift]

Amagi gets my vote