gameplay-help

[soft raft]

grind Hard mode X-4 stages
you dont do research for retrofit materials

[tropic tusk]

they should had update rerun to make it look like the new ones, old event style is too slow

[light shell]

Ok thx

[cunning bison]

ok fk then fritz it is

[barren tapir]

[whole crypt]

go do campaign hard mode on x-4

[viscid swift]

are we going back to Yorktown 2 bad now

[untold beacon]

Ok thanks!

[barren tapir]

also to every regular in gph, happy HVAR hunting go get em tiger

[soft raft]

Apparently

[rigid onyx]

cl6 gun with 0 spread is decent, twin 150 mm is also good

[barren tapir]

may the odds ever be in your favour

[untold beacon]

Which ship from the event should i go for?

[barren tapir]

(also did we figure out if the bug was fixed?)

[cunning bison]

doesnt yktwn ii have potential since we have a truckload of uss ships to go

[dawn ledge]

damn i did like 30 pulls and no yorktown

[whole crypt]

this regular isn't rocketcat hunting so good luck to you instead

[stark quiver]

prolly fixed

[viscid swift]

well right now I'm at 7 prints from drops
at about 36-40 runs

[whole crypt]

just do daily on tickets and come back to it on the last day whether to pull more

[rigid onyx]

isnt that bugged rates

[stark quiver]

so is that like
the normal drop rate looking?

[cunning bison]

just need 5 bps frm d3.... rest frm pts (how many do we need to get the 10 bps frm pt accum)

[dawn ledge]

i will do that either way, aint using cubes

[viscid swift]

I don't remember

[barren tapir]

looks like fixed rates about 0.17-0.18 which is just above average rates for regular

[whole crypt]

if you pace your ticket use you can also do 3 daily without spending cubes

[barren tapir]

bugged was in the 0.4 range which this is way too far from imo

anyway, ttyl

[whole crypt]

that's extra points on the table that you lose if you spend too many tickets early

[viscid swift]

oh well, good thing I only need to farm 17 then

[cunning bison]

unlike me who will burn my 400+ cubes since i need coins frm acad (POOR) i bought her skin in black fri

[whole crypt]

17 planes?

[stark quiver]

i need to farm 100

[viscid swift]

hahaha, I'm not that insane

but for a time-wise reference, I started farming about 2-2.5 hours ago to get those 7

[rigid onyx]

any heclps?

[viscid swift]

HELPS all the way pretty much

[rigid onyx]

[sleek spade]

how realistic to try and farm 30 HVAR bps from D3 drop?

[rigid onyx]

fairly doable

[viscid swift]

should be quite doable in a week if you don't slack

[rigid onyx]

i'm going to have to try & farm 4 from D3 drops.

[sleek spade]

mmm ok

[wind hazel]

what armour is EX? heavy?

[sweet delta]

Hi, how do I farm HVARs?

[sleek spade]

should I just stack 1:1 fleets?

[stark quiver]

sayonara suchi

[dawn ledge]

i bought fritz it was worth, waifu material

[elfin hollow]

I am not seeing any SP, am I blind

[viscid swift]

actually no update, make that 43 runs for 8

[elfin hollow]

is that a yes no sp or yes for I am blind

[stark quiver]

ur blind

[elfin hollow]

ok thanks, just have to finish my current three run

[frank pulsar]

is hvar drop rate still bugged or is it fixed

[soft raft]

sadly fixed

[frank pulsar]

good thing i went ham the first time round then

[void garnet]

What are some good team comps with Yorktown2?

[stark quiver]

with helps
im at a 0.3 drop rate
i only did a single 3x

[stark quiver]

kearsarge yk2 cv

[void garnet]

Any CV or have to be USS?

[cunning bison]

any tbh

but anti-light/mediums preferable

[barren tapir]

are subs a concern for 1:1ing?

[void garnet]

what if no kearsarge yet? Who are some placeholders

[cunning bison]

enty

[elfin hollow]

kear is flag, right?

[cunning bison]

can fritz be flag in that setup instead btw?

[zenith sequoia]

hey is it normal that a1 and b1 need 2 clears but the rest is just 1 clear?

[shell willow]

yeah they pulled out the random number generator for those

[zenith sequoia]

a1 needs 10 and 2 clears, a2 needs 7 and 1 clear is what I mean

[short wagon]

is it yk2 rerun

[shell willow]

7 in 31

[stark quiver]

1 in 3

[short wagon]

anything i should get if i already have yk2 maxed

[karmic pebble]

yuh

[karmic pebble]

get another plane frum the shop

[cunning bison]

skyraider, hvars, whatever mats u need

[worldly pewter]

0 in 23

[stuck stirrup]

where do i change my guild support ships at again

[keen sable]

you can only change when not boss

[stuck stirrup]

oh, thanks

[barren tapir]

are subs a concern on d3

[viscid swift]

yes

[barren tapir]

do i put like an asw plane or i didnt think of that

[viscid swift]

I just have a purple depth charge launcher in each of my DDs

[lavish crow]

wow that ex was messed up. Got it but is there even a consistent read/bait for the first mechanic.

[barren tapir]

well idk if nana will survive without double hp aux. uh oh

there's an asw plane in core data right? whats the best asw plane

[rain vine]

you kinda have to time when you move, from what i could tell

[lavish crow]

yeah I thought you had to bait ahead of where it would stop, when she fires it, and then move backwards

but it wouldn't work sometimes

[barren tapir]

ig worst case i'll only have 2 teams...

[lavish crow]

at least the other mechanics are consistent, tho the second part of the lanes bit is poorly communicated

[elfin hollow]

wrong channel/game bruh

[rain vine]

wrong game

[rain vine]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/General_Motors_TBM_Avenger_(VT-51_Squadron)

[barren tapir]

wait c1 2 clears, c2 1 clear?

[barren tapir]

ah i dont have it,what's the next best?

[rain vine]

the one in core data

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/General_Motors_TBM-3_Avenger_(ASW)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[knotty garnet]

I forgot, is this a priority to grab? Dont really see this being used much

[turbid marsh]

oui

[barren tapir]

apparently it's also in gear lab. ty

guess ill make a couple if i have issues

[short wagon]

i didnt even get one last time bc i started the game like 2 days before the event

[rain vine]

you should only need 1

[short wagon]

diff story now tho

[barren tapir]

man i shouldve made multiple unicorns

[barren tapir]

yeah most likely only indep will need one cos nana cant afford to run hedgehog, the other 2 teams have healers so they can run hedge i assume

[short wagon]

do i throw this on yk2

[opaque gate]

what is good from the event other than yorktown 2?

[whole crypt]

ships? they're all decent besides Langley II, but better ships exist in general

[opaque gate]

is the plane good?

[barren tapir]

hamm2 if you need an air raid assistance, northhampton 2 has a vg slow for american cv fleets, hornet is a typical decent gold cv. all have better options though but these can help if you dont have said better options

[opaque gate]

thanks

[whole crypt]

Hammann II is key to low cost farming 13-1

[barren tapir]

oh wait

i forgot who goes with hamm2 was it aquila?

[whole crypt]

Volga

[barren tapir]

oh

[whole crypt]

which is just as well because it means I don't need to swap Aquila's gear

I'm waiting for that Aquila dupe

[opaque gate]

no need to 3 stars event, right?

[tame jungle]

if there's rewards in your missions tab you do

[wind hazel]

there are missions

[barren tapir]

looks like aquila momo will do perfectly fine in d3, momo is a surprising monster.

now im just really concerned for indep nana theyll have the hardest time ig

[barren tapir]

actually should i run sara instead for higher dmg uptime...

[opaque gate]

thank u

[warm trail]

wrong discord lmao

[rigid onyx]

are those cl retro bps or dd

[whole crypt]

2 barrels so cruiser

[barren tapir]

guess nows the best time to ask
if i dont have a healer what's the best 1:1 backline

[rigid onyx]

you could use fdg b/c of proximity barrage but you lose oil efficiency

[barren tapir]

dont have fdg

[whole crypt]

this one is messy because of those sub things so I can't say for sure

but I'm tempted to say it'll be along the lines of at least a gold BB which means you're not really saving oil at that point

[rigid onyx]

1:1 d3 this event more for morale cope

[mellow cape]

lol, ibuki is goated for this. She's deleting them before they even get a bullet off for my 1:1

[rigid onyx]

Personally im doing aquilla/chang + uni/tai + 1 full leveling fleet and its enough to stay decent for morale

[barren tapir]

yeah i have to 1:1 cos 6 dorm slots and 120k+ oil to spend

my best backliners is probably sara or indep, sara will clear nodes faster and tank more and indep can carry asw

[fast steppe]

do the 3 star quests unlock in sequence? like if i want to check the rewards for d1 3 star do i need to 3 star c3 as well

fuck

[fast steppe]

thanks

[elfin hollow]

Do Hard mode 3 stars ⭐️ give awards

[barren tapir]

then again maybe im worrying too much im just seeing early performance as i push to d3, but lethal is still alot harder thansafe so i might be fine

is rumey's crossfleet any good?

i could always stack boss with cope to help

gotta see d3 actually i was worried for nana bc she kept ramming the elite in c1 but now in d1 she's always full hp so. idk LOL

she might be able to hedge

[fast steppe]

which SRs and above are good enough for 1:1

[rigid onyx]

I mean you'll get d3 to safe in like half a day

[barren tapir]

also, does hedgehog have the range to kill the boats before they turn into suicide boats

turns out that's my real issue now, not the always under subs XD

in d1 indep gets to about half hp on lethal

[glossy granite]

Bruh im lvl 99 on the season pass

[barren tapir]

any healer + any decent dd for vanguard ig

can do cl if needed (like i gotta) but it costs more ofc

[fast steppe]

i've only got uni perseus and ryuuhou

at least i think

[barren tapir]

im gonna find out for y'all if nonhealer + zombie works

[short wagon]

tenzan or barracuda on mamagi cv

[fast steppe]

other than aquila who else heals

[barren tapir]

zuihou

[short wagon]

unicorn

[rain vine]

volga

[fast steppe]

no zuihou either

[turbid marsh]

what are you planning to use her for?

[short wagon]

mob

[barren tapir]

cuda

[short wagon]

kk

[fast steppe]

oh wait i forgot i'm grinding xp anyway

full fleet d3 it is

[barren tapir]

well that's perfectly valid ofc xd

[fast steppe]

unless d3 doesn't have cost limit

[rain vine]

it does

[barren tapir]

it does

but 1:1 still cheaper

[fast steppe]

do i really need more than 3 hvarcats hmm

[tame jungle]

i'd spare the effort honestly

[barren tapir]

you want 2 at least imo, any more is nice but preference

[low juniper]

Is this thing good

[tame jungle]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Extremely

[low juniper]

What use does it have

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i was wondering - is it any good in campaign or is it only for solo bossing

[viscid swift]

light snd medium armor bosses

[cobalt rapids]

best plane for light single target
best db for light and medium single target

[tame jungle]

(check equipment guide)
it's a divebomber with rockets

[forest palm]

what's the situation with the HVAR?

[viscid swift]

not bugged rates it seems

[forest palm]

rip newcomers

[cobalt rapids]

but captain fluffs got 3 hvars in 1 sp run

[tame jungle]

it's so over

[mellow cape]

I've gotten about 4 BPs in the last hour not sure what the average here is anyone knows

[barren tapir]

this is why you prepare 100k+ oil chat

[low juniper]

That's what the 8x HVAR is?

[forest palm]

I think I saw 2 ~ 3 HVAR prints on my SP run

[barren tapir]

me start event on 20k oil + 2k canteen while wasting 0

hypothesis: sp rate still bugged

[viscid swift]

I'll my SP run after this and see

[cobalt rapids]

i got 0 on my SP run

[mellow cape]

Is the deux ex machina worth doing?

[brazen star]

ive gotten 10 in about 3k oil at 160 a run

[barren tapir]

that's 0.53 bp/run

ok either low sample size from people or...some are bugged and some are not

most likely the former but which way who knows

ill be able to add my data soon, almost at d3

[kindred arrow]

I've done 12 runs with helps and gotten 2 whole horniis and a grand total of 0 BP it's so over for me

[sweet delta]

i've done 0 runs and gotten 0 hvars

[barren tapir]

same

[mellow cape]

Lol I think I'll just farm 3 hvars and call it a day. I already have 5 from the last event

[barren tapir]

also-

[fast steppe]

why do my hedgehogs keep whiffing

[glossy granite]

For the event shop, are the bombers the nr 1 priority? Over the Hornet II?

[viscid swift]

Skyraider yes

[cobalt rapids]

looks decent
idk if better or worse than amagis
but shes buffing ur acv way better

[barren tapir]

according to d2, my healer 1:1s wont need any asw

[glossy granite]

Which stages are great to farm in the event? Hardest or any specific

[kindred arrow]

Never buy the shop ship at first because she can drop from D3 and SP
Just leave 8k points in reserve when the event ends so you can buy her if she hasn't dropped for you

[barren tapir]

d3

[glossy granite]

Ofc i already got her and Yorktown from the summons

And i need gear anyways

[short wagon]

which one on musashi for general use

[rain vine]

neither

[barren tapir]

the japanese one

[kindred arrow]

Don't buy Hornet II dupes from shop either then
At that point it's just very expensive bulins

[short wagon]

im broke

[barren tapir]

purple 410 is fine wym

[short wagon]

whats the left one for

[stuck stirrup]

isn't the purple 410 kai better?

[wind hazel]

to scrap

[barren tapir]

it is...very slightly. and purple 410 is fine

[rain vine]

forgot that its ijn

[kindred arrow]

It's Gear lab so more expensive for someone broke

[wind hazel]

it's not that bad

[atomic abyss]

It's cheap compared to most gear lab stuff

[stuck stirrup]

i guess, but it's still a marginal cost to gear lab a purple gear that you'll use indefinitely

[wind hazel]

yes, upgrade to kai if you can

[kindred arrow]

I mean yeah I don't disagree it's pretty cheap for a lab upgrade but I'm just going by what he said

[short wagon]

im not even past w11 yet bro i been on w11 for 4 months ion think im grinding opsi anytime soon

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure one of the lv 95 dailies gives some opsi mats...

[short wagon]

theres a lvl100 daily??

[mellow cape]

lol lvl 95

[atomic abyss]

Lv100 is for cog arrays iirc

[short wagon]

ion got it my max are 75

[kindred arrow]

You should try to slowly clear it btw
You probably can throw a couple of teams and opsi has plenty of low level stuff

[short wagon]

escort mission and the other ones are all maxed out at 70

[short wagon]

im making my way there ill prolly do it after my end of term

[stuck stirrup]

i'd at least run some opsi stuff, especially since it's just purple mats, which are relatively trivial to obtain even with a single lower level budget fleet

[short wagon]

bro whys is ugly neko now what happened to umi neko

[cobalt rapids]

we are different ppl

[atomic abyss]

You'll get there eventually

Anyways it's the tech boxes daily that has some opsi mats iirc

[short wagon]

oh

[short wagon]

do i need hgiher commander level

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[short wagon]

what level does 95 unlock

[mellow cape]

more loot loll

[short wagon]

does level 95 unlock at level 95

[barren tapir]

the two are unrelated tho

[mellow cape]

what do you think

[short wagon]

ill do both

[fast steppe]

should i be clearing a/b stages as well for the 5x or not worth

[keen sable]

yes

[short wagon]

finna start a change.org so they make a level 80/85 one

[barren tapir]

if not hvar farming sure. if hvar farming fuck no

[mellow cape]

i just went right to d3 to farm for hvar bps so probably not worth

and also youll get enough points anyways farming d3

[barren tapir]

im in my first run rn

[wind hazel]

do it if you can, it's worth the point

[mellow cape]

what i am surprised about is the amount of purple bps dropping from this node

[barren tapir]

atm looks like aquila+momo utterly facestomp this even on lethal, which is nice

[wind hazel]

unless you're gonna mindless grind d3 then skip

[kindred arrow]

So many purple bps and so little hvar...

[worldly pewter]

0 in 2 sp runs

[barren tapir]

how does one have 2 sp runs already

[worldly pewter]

nippon

[mellow cape]

yeah i thought it was just 1 a day LOL

[barren tapir]

are you jp/cn?

random question: aquila dmg or heal mode momo is solo clearing d3 mobs before aquila's launch actually hits anything LOL

[atomic abyss]

Nippon means JP yes

[barren tapir]

i know, they typed it as i was typing \

[atomic abyss]

Why wouldn't you put preload for Aqui...

[kindred arrow]

If momo aint dying go damage

[barren tapir]

wasnt sure if i needed heal or not

[atomic abyss]

If the battle ends faster you take less damage

[barren tapir]

momo is performing significantly better than i expected so i'll swap aquila

[atomic abyss]

And need less healing

[barren tapir]

ender i prefer to play it initially safe on lethal

[mellow cape]

lol true, im using ibuki and alsace and nothing lives for more than a second

[barren tapir]

esp for comps ive never tried in live combat before today LOL

illl swap her after this run

bit pricey but very stronk 1:1 option clearly

[kindred arrow]

How are you guys doing 1:1 without getting blocked by the AVI req? Fritz in the crossfleet fleet isn't doing it for me

[barren tapir]

i use full fleet boss

[worldly pewter]

i had to +13 4 cata and use ting an

[barren tapir]

well for d3, in previous maps i went from 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 as needed

[brazen star]

122 oil

[barren tapir]

man i wish i was 🧓

[wind hazel]

ngl but i can count on how many times i touch my hvar, you're really not gonna miss out much

[kindred arrow]

I wish I had farmed this when I was new

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i dont think i got an answer - is skyraider good for campaign/event or only bossing? compared to helldiver

[kindred arrow]

(I was so new I couldn't get to D3)

[soft raft]

I mainly used it as desync since it's slower than Helldiver

[wind hazel]

can be good on campaign, can stagger since it's slow

[kindred arrow]

I've used it in campaign but I'm not in the chapters where shit gets serious so

[elfin hollow]

Is this good?

[barren tapir]

also - flapjack or bf109g for d3?

i wanna optimize speed if i can too xd

[vestal glen]

is skyraider worth it?

[worldly pewter]

i think the bf does no damage against mobs
or might target 1 only and leave the rest

[barren tapir]

for context the elites are medium but idk how bad the planes get without flaps

[worldly pewter]

flapjack should be a lot better

[barren tapir]

rockets have priority targeting afaik. and all my backline have very strong tbs for mobbing

[spring bolt]

plane is no issue

[barren tapir]

to me it's mainly a question of do i have enough aa without flap

with preload, this comp is very fat and fairly fast too

[spring bolt]

running 0lb ranger here and she loses no hp to planes

[kindred arrow]

I don't think aa is a worry here, my mog is doing fine and she's no sandy

[barren tapir]

okie cool ill swap them to bfg

least to test it out anyway

[wind hazel]

use single line

[atomic abyss]

At this point

[barren tapir]

i dont wanna have to swap it every time and i know that indep+nana needs double

[atomic abyss]

Just make a thread for HVAR farm min maxing

It's not relevant to most of the channel

So I prefer you move to a thread if you really want to min max your stuff

Or rather to discuss strategies on how to min max

You won't get interrupted by people asking questions either

[barren tapir]

fair

HVAR nolifer megathread

if anyone wants to join ofc

[sharp wave]

Are the planes good in the event shop

[barren tapir]

yes

[kindred arrow]

Extremely good even

[haughty pine]

Hi all. How many tickets exactly do we get in a rerun?

[kindred arrow]

44

[atomic abyss]

44 over the course of the UR rerun

[haughty pine]

[spark ridge]

The skin voucher u get for owning the skin in the pack, is that usable on any skin including l2d, or is it only non l2d skins

[rose spear]

You get the equivalent in gems

[ebon storm]

Shinano or yorktown 2 who is better

[mellow cape]

both are probably equally good tbh, just depends on your dock and what you have atm

[barren tapir]

shinano heavy yk2 light/med

theyre not directly comparable since they have different uses

[haughty dust]

How is Northhampton II rated and is she good for anything?

[hollow gust]

eh

[barren tapir]

she is decently useful in an american cv fleet as slower (if 50% slow is enough) if you dont have eldkai otherwise meh

[fast steppe]

Guam's crossfleet isn't activating for me for some reason

[little plinth]

how many hvars should I farm? 2?

[keen sable]

you should use your oil. you get what you get

[barren tapir]

2 minimum is good more is nice

[fast steppe]

she's in the other fleet but uni keeps getting hit by bomb boats

[kindred arrow]

Guam crossfleet has a cooldown

[fast steppe]

not even cooldown it just straight up isn't activating

the 5 times per battle limit doesn't mean the entire sortie right

[kindred arrow]

Hm you sure it didn't activate on something else, like a stray mob?

[tranquil saffron]

How long does a UR ship have to be in the game before it gets added to the normal build pool?

[boreal wagon]

is this your 6th fight in the sortie

bc while the "up to 5 times per battle" isnt for the whole sortie, her skill explicitly does state it only works for the first 5 battles

[forest palm]

about 2 years to rerun, then like a year or so after to become perm, or something like that, it's hard to tell exactly there's no set in stone schedule

[fast steppe]

fuck I'm illiterate mb

[keen sable]

3 years or so currently

[soft raft]

Roughly 3 years (2 for rerun then 1 year after that for perma) for all major events

Are the A/B stages 1 clear to 100% for the rerun or nah

[forest palm]

just said that thanks

[haughty dust]

eldkai? Eldridge?

[worldly pewter]

pilica said it is A2 and A3 the same as in the C stages

[soft raft]

so is that a yes or no answer?

[tame jungle]

C1 was 2x for clear, C2 (and maybe C3) are 1x for clear

[shell willow]

c3 was 1 too yeah

[tame jungle]

(i'm not finished with C3 yet)

[keen sable]

you would assume so but jp doesn't say that's true

[barren tapir]

c1 is 2, c2-c3 is 1, d1-d2 is 2, d3 is 3. fuck if i know why.

i expect a/b mirror it

[crimson grove]

For EX can I just throw a UR CV fleet and call it a day ? would it kill

[soft raft]

wild

[forest palm]

A1 is 2 clears

[barren tapir]

only hardmode EX available so gl

[crimson grove]

[haughty dust]

@barren tapir I have Eldridge but she is not retrofitted yet

[soft raft]

Honestly would I really need to do A/B if I just want to get 15k and dip

I doubt I'll be able to grind enough to get a 4th HVAR tho I can certainly get a 3rd

[barren tapir]

then north2 will potentially be somewhat useful for you in an american cv fleet (ie yk2/enty etc)

[crimson grove]

do we even need more than 4

[barren tapir]

you can get 15k just with dailies, sp, and unlocking sp i think

the hvar bps in milestone are after 15k tho iirc?

[tame jungle]

first 2 at 8.5

after 13k you have 10 prints

[soft raft]

2 at 8.5k, 3 at 9.5k, and 5 at 13k

[barren tapir]

oh im dumb

tbf i just did a brief check to see they were there mb'

[tame jungle]

did hvar require 15 or 25 prints?

[barren tapir]

25

[soft raft]

25

[tame jungle]

[fast steppe]

one of my story cutscenes froze here is this a bug

[forest palm]

if the game has ceased to function, and you can not move past the screen, then yes

[barren tapir]

try relog

[fast steppe]

the disconnect popup got me out of it lol

[wispy island]

which gears to put on yk2

[keen sable]

What do you want to kill

[wispy island]

uhhhh

boss ig

idk

[fast steppe]

do subs in attack mode consume oil

[barren tapir]

what kind of boss?

[wispy island]

FUCK

i hate this game

[dense briar]

Is yamashiro meta good?

[barren tapir]

no

[kindred arrow]

She gives great tech but as a ship no, not at all

[tame jungle]

not for unironic usage
good for fleet tech

[barren tapir]

i mean i guess she's among the better end of elite metas but that really isnt saying much

[dense briar]

How abou fusou meta?

[tame jungle]

same story

[kindred arrow]

Subs consume oil when called into battle and when starting sortie

[dense briar]

So most meta ships are shit?

[tame jungle]

that's not what we're saying is it?

[silk helm]

what armor type is d3 boss?

[tame jungle]

golds are usually "ok" but the purples are most often pretty bad

[barren tapir]

most elite metas are shit. most gold metas are decent to good but have sidegrades/upgrades

[fast steppe]

asking about the mode where they'll just target stuff automatically and reduce enemy health

[barren tapir]

heavy (well, it's a bb)

[fast steppe]

like not in battle itself

[kindred arrow]

Nope

[fast steppe]

aight

[soft raft]

And in terms of fleet tech:

[dense briar]

Excuse me what is fleet tech?

[tame jungle]

additional stats for when you acquire ships/get them to 120

[eager mulch]

nubi is a white name

[tame jungle]

they took my piss yellow golden darkness name

[barren tapir]

i miss my nana role too

[dense briar]

I see thanks for that,just exploring my choices

Im fairly new so im having fun checking things out

[polar raft]

Are we likely to get a Yorktown rerun again this year? I ran out of cubes💀

[worldly pewter]

most elite yes if not all

[barren tapir]

she'll archive near end of 2025 or early 2026

[tame jungle]

you still got a week + build tickets
probably near end of this year she'll return as a permanent ship

[eternal basalt]

Only one rerun, next up is perma

[silk sphinx]

How’s the hvaar drop rate?

[elfin thunder]

at least you can buy prints from shop and milestone rewards have prints also

[barren tapir]

garbage

im currently at 2 for 23

[elfin thunder]

either way ill be burning all my oil since i started playing after bugged rates

[silk sphinx]

Sad that they fixed it

[keen sable]

that's the spirit

[eager mulch]

should’ve just been there

[elfin thunder]

pretty sad, I wanted 6 but doubt thats possible now

[silk sphinx]

I’ll get a fifth guaranteed at least

[barren tapir]

just spend 300k oil and youll get 6

actually more like 150k idk

[tame jungle]

just spend Hella Oil

[keen sable]

just spend oil. don't save it for lny

[silk sphinx]

Back then 2 or 3 could drop on a single run…

[elfin thunder]

yeah, ill be spending all ive got. which isnt all that much. only got about 60k

[silk sphinx]

That’s why you save mail

[eager mulch]

Helena oil

[barren tapir]

i got 60k too, cost of being a newbie

2 for 29 im actually fucked

[silk sphinx]

The gap between rerun and WA is shorter, you’ll prob have to catch up then

They might add it to perma shops who knows

[elfin thunder]

yeah, hopefully it ends up in gear lab

[kindred arrow]

they put it in limited core shop just for the lols

[elfin hollow]

Is B3 or D3 better to farm flower of remembrance, oil cost in regards too

[kindred arrow]

If you want to low oil, you'd do B1
Not that it's recommended in this event though

[silk sphinx]

If you really want max efficiency then it’s low oil… it would take forever though

Can someone tell me if the stages still take multiple clears? They should yeah?

Can’t check myself obv

[barren tapir]

all but c2/c3/a2/a3 take more than 1

[kindred arrow]

I can confirm the Ds do take multiple clears

Standard 2/2/3

[silk sphinx]

Thanks

[barren tapir]

2/1/1/2/2/3

[silk sphinx]

Just do d3, but do pick up the daily bonuses if you have the time

Quick calc is something around 4700 flowers just from the daily first clear x3 or x5 bonuses + SP

[stark quiver]

any low cost sp fleets?

[atomic abyss]

it's always the same old

[silk sphinx]

Unicorn + ddg should be enough

[stone sluice]

Only 1 hvar design after 15 sorties. Did they change the odds?

By the way, do we get a promise ring during valentine event or we just get a promise shop available in the shop?

[silk sphinx]

For boss just take a UR Cv plus something

[atomic abyss]

the odds seem to have reverted to "normal"

[silk sphinx]

The first run had bugged odds, making them far more common drops

[atomic abyss]

according to anecdotal data

[silk sphinx]

The gap was immense, many here got 3-6 hvars

[atomic abyss]

also, just ring pack for valentines usually

free ring is usually for anni

[silk sphinx]

I farmed four myself, very noticeably the highest geardrop rates I’ve seen

They elected to keep those drop rates after they first found out for the first run

But seems they “fixed” it for this one, so it’s back to normal event gear drop rates

[silk sphinx]

Ring pack is just your server’s anniversary, valentines they do usually have a ring pack on sale, 2 for 980 which is around 18% off

[barren tapir]

bug was 3x more droprate%

[turbid dawn]

I'm presuming if you use these fleets you need the Vit TBS? Seems double ryusei on both of them isn't enough

[white agate]

idk, but i can say that sp stages humanoid nodes gave me 0 hvar in 102 battles which means that most definetly p to get hvar from those nodes is less than 1%

[silk sphinx]

Very faulty statistics there

Not getting the UR in 200 pulls doesn’t mean the chance is below 0.5% now does it

Some here higher up got 2 in 20/30 runs

[white agate]

not quite, i did not say chance is 0% due to me getting 0 bp i gave a confidence margin wich states humanoid gold drop chances are between 0% and 1%

[odd cedar]

is the ad-1 skyrider worth it or nah?

[barren tapir]

cn has gold bp collection data you know...

[silk sphinx]

Best light DB

It’s also a collectible kind of

Players have at most 2 now

[odd cedar]

would be my first so

[white agate]

not for sp, i did some data aquisition since they told me they had no data

[silk sphinx]

The smaller the odds, the bigger the sample size has to be in order to get a certain confidence value in its measurements

If the odds are only slightly higher than 1% for example then a pop of 100 is significantly lower than required

[white agate]

iirc they have it for d3, but is it with the adjusted rates or in general for events d3?

[white agate]

i know that is why i runned the statistics on my data sample and i can tell 0%-1% is the margin i come up; to be honest for more precise results i would need many more than the 100 data i used, a sample of around 10k would be what i would be satisfied to tell the % with around a 0.1% as error probably

[silk sphinx]

I don’t think you’re making up for 200k in lost damage just by switching to vits

Damn I forgot most of my stats course but I’ll go try to calc something

[barren tapir]

from 2020 baguette gun

anyway myself im currently on 8/47

[white agate]

therefore best way to farm hvar is doing d3 and doing only siren nodes of sp and retiring seems totally not worth it; at least this is what i concluded

[barren tapir]

well ofc, boss is 6x effective drop

[white agate]

yes, but i thought sp % were higher than d3, but i think they are comparable or same?

@barren tapir btw do you have the link with cn data?

[barren tapir]

dfg posted it before i think, iunno

[glacial root]

Taihou Meta boss fight Lexington sev anyone like to join?

[undone plover]

better add friends or join a guild in your own server channel
#lexington-general

[glacial root]

yeah i got a guild but it is dead

[silk sphinx]

just ask world?

unless your guild is super active, even full and active guilds won't help that much

[undone plover]

u can try joining another guild

[keen sable]

sometimes i accidentally restart before i assist my guild

[silk sphinx]

which won't help much with Meta boss fights but would help with getting two monthly solomons if you don't have that already

[glacial root]

yeah i ask world again

[polar venture]

I've got nano, amagi and fritz. Would Yorktown 2 be useful to me?

[glacial root]

am going to have to see if i can find a active guild.

Yes Yorktown would

you have amagi CV?

[polar venture]

Yeah

[silk sphinx]

you asking about pulling for her or investing in her with bulins?

[polar venture]

Investing I guess

[glacial root]

then yes Yorktown 2 amagi cv should work great for you

[silk sphinx]

she's a good cv don't get me wrong but if you have lots of URs then yeah some might be more useful than others. Yorkii is pretty high up there though

[polar venture]

I haven't put anything into fritz though

[silk sphinx]

but I don't use her much these days due to just how many URs there are

dk anything about fritz, but JP comp is prob overall

[polar venture]

Yall like these teams or nah?

[silk sphinx]

eu cv fleet hasn't had any of the new upgrades like amagi and fritz app is better than yorkii for some light comps

overall not that high up in priority but still nice

kind of depends on how many of the other URs you have though

[keen sable]

it's teams. i'd rate it on average C

[silk sphinx]

C is a bit uh stingy

[remote steppe]

Does the oath skin of Yorktown get unlocked when you oath Yorktown 2 or do you have to oath the base version ?

[keen sable]

C is quite high actually. D has no place near any difficult content

[keen sable]

oath gets skin

[undone plover]

oath YKii only needed for YKii oath skin
the ship with the ring can use oath skin

[polar venture]

I'm curious what a b or a team looks like 👀👀

[remote steppe]

Thank you

[keen sable]

aquila probably

[lofty zodiac]

#game-news message
This is for chinese new year event?
Did this event have a new UR?

[undone plover]

so far only 1 ship revealed and not UR
usually LNY doesnt come with UR
UR in february event most likely

[keen sable]

yes, don't know but most likely no

[barren tapir]

for what exactly

[polar venture]

Oof don't have her
@barren tapir world 13-14. Rn I'm using them for the event too though

[barren tapir]

hmmm

[keen sable]

also #bot-spam /w15 or /tierlist 15 goes into comps more than tierlist does i suppose

If It's clearing 14 then good job

[silk sphinx]

URs are in middle/end february, may, september, and december

[glossy granite]

Do i retrofit San diego 🤔

[barren tapir]

yes

[silk sphinx]

kind of feels overly strict ranking a fleet based on w15 guidelines when that clearly isn't w15

but oh well fair enough

[glossy granite]

For some reason i got like 71 purple retrofit prints for her

Tho only 8 gold ones

[barren tapir]

anything that works in 15 will stomp 14. other stuff works for 14 but wont be as good

you need 20 gold ones

[silk sphinx]

retrofit blueprints are fairly time gated resources so yep

[barren tapir]

get grinding

[silk sphinx]

3-star hard mode stages and do high world hard mode stages

[glossy granite]

Tho i think i got them years ago from doing so much commisions or researches idk

i returned to the game during fritz event since 2021 and back then i did fuck all

[elfin hollow]

I’m confuse there’s no timer reset display in the supply shop anymore so does it mean these stay for a whole month?

[inner delta]

yes

[silk sphinx]

oh hey a returner

[elfin hollow]

Aw shucks

[silk sphinx]

or maybe not idk since before you finish chapter 4 it's also the old shop

[silk sphinx]

i mean it's an objectively better system if you can finish opsi

back then you also had a fixed monthly pool except you only got access to some of the items at a time and they refreshed the offering every so often

so people would buy completely useless but cheap stuff just to increase the chances of the good stuff showing up

[keen sable]

14 and 15 are the only criteria that would apply to something like that...the shinano fleet is just weird. why IS amagii flag? but not really why it gets a c.

[glossy granite]

How good is U-47 ?

[polar venture]

What does Guam do for a team?

[glossy granite]

I wonder what even are the top tier submarines

[silk sphinx]

boss tank, aa carry, great aa crossfleet

[tame jungle]

tank/aa mostly

[keen sable]

kron+aa?

[silk sphinx]

also pretty good dmg

[glossy granite]

Also nubi what did i tell you 😂

im confident about my ur luck

[tame jungle]

what

[keen sable]

something about newbies luck or another that doesn't belong here

[tame jungle]

ok so nothing i'd care about then

[glossy granite]

You said it will backfire me 🤷‍♂️

[tame jungle]

not getting into this bc i do not care

but good for you

[keen sable]

fish or wolf

[silk sphinx]

this convo does not belong in this chat

please go to #al-general or something

[glossy granite]

Which one is wolf?

Ik archerfish

[silk sphinx]

wolf = german, fish is american

[tame jungle]

u96 u37 u81 is (currently best) wolfpack

[glossy granite]

Ohhhhh

[keen sable]

u boats like 81 96 47 37 101

[glossy granite]

I have 37, doubt have the rest

[silk sphinx]

96 is perman iirc now in medal shop

[tame jungle]

yea

[silk sphinx]

you'll have to lucksac 101 or 81 though

albacore is merit shop obtainable if you're closer to fish pack though

which is flasher/archerfish/albacore

[tame jungle]

what event was flasher from again? was it guam event?

[rigid onyx]

in my opinion you either prep fishpack for flasher who'll be rerun along with guam & laffii around janurary of next year, or just do wolfpack & wishing well 81

[silk sphinx]

tbh you can do the whole game without ever using subs so

you can just make a suboptimal sub fleet and be done with it

[keen sable]

522

[glossy granite]

What lvl are C3 D3, i wish i stacked up on more oil...

[keen sable]

85/105

[glossy granite]

ty

[silk sphinx]

there's a wiki page on the event https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Parallel_Superimposition

[glossy granite]

Mb, i have single digit IQ 😅

[silk sphinx]

no need for modesty, i'm sure you have at least 10 points (sorry if that was offensive, just saw the opp for a joke)

[glossy granite]

Nw, being offensive dosent exist with me

Im not one of those where you have to think before saying

[wispy geyser]

can i just keep that coupon? there are no skin i rly want atm

[glossy granite]

I need ways to get free skins fr

[polar venture]

Does nano prefer boss fleet to mob?

[vital rune]

Is there no B2 or B3? I kinda can't beat hard mode

[white agate]

do b1

it tells you to do it

[silk sphinx]

not sure, but I do know some coupons have expired before

what's the source?

[vital rune]

I thought I could jus 3 star and move on like story

[white agate]

no, you need to do each level it till 100%

[lofty zodiac]

Tell me i can get this item someday? Or i just dump my gold for nothing?

[vale spindle]

This event follows the old format

Its only somewhat recently they did the 1 clear is 100% and the story is separate

[silk sphinx]

what was the first event they did the single clear thing?

was it tempesta?

[rigid onyx]

is it not in the protocore shop or is it only lny

[slow fox]

In the data page, the GHOST GUN column is the M column.

[kindred arrow]

Amagi CV iirc

[tame jungle]

i think the strasbourg event already had it

[crisp raven]

this one is tai yuans. not in the shop yet.

[rigid onyx]

probably getting rerun for the lunar new year event then

[crisp raven]

itll be available one day, maybe even for the upcoming lny event, but dont quote me. it might go directly into the protocore shop, but itll be available in some way eventually

[wispy geyser]

Today kron box

[lofty zodiac]

Why a ship in a guild shop don't have this item somewhere...

[silk sphinx]

i think it was amagi's event?

[tame jungle]

strasbourg

[silk sphinx]

i see, thanks. then i guess amagi's was teh first time they split story and stages

[tame jungle]

that was little academy

[silk sphinx]

actually no

yeah you're right there were way earlier stuff too

[tame jungle]

unless i'm forgetting something

[crisp raven]

little academy and strat were the story split test events. it went full after that

[silk sphinx]

when i said actually no that was to myself, was what i meant because i got it wrong

[crisp raven]

speaking of, did little academy also have the 1 run clear, or just the story split? wiki doesnt have the battle maps listed. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Welcome_to_Little_Academy

[tame jungle]

little academy had the sequential battles didn't it?

[silk sphinx]

kind of confused since it says only useable on kronshtadt

[boreal wagon]

read the red text

[keen sable]

i think it's a raid light. there was nothing to map

[silk sphinx]

i'm blind thanks

no idea, there's no message saying if it expires or not

[crisp raven]

oh, was it? that might be why im forgetting the (nonexistant) maps lol

[tame jungle]

is yorktown2 the SP boss?

[keen sable]

have you tried you tapping info?

[crisp raven]

arbiter the devil is the boss

[tame jungle]

LOL sorry long day

(what armor is she)

[boreal wagon]

medium

[fleet cobalt]

Which is better Helena or graf zeppelin?

[tame jungle]

they don't have any overlap in role
you'll probably use helena a lot more

[silk sphinx]

can't think of any reason you'de use graf nowadays except for newbies and even then

[fleet cobalt]

what should i replace her with?

[barren tapir]

saratoga good

[distant comet]

What's the best way to get gems as f2p? I'm only at 20 gems and want to get Shinano's skin

[barren tapir]

wallet is the only way if you want skins

you get gems for 3* campaign maps and memento collection and you shouldnt spend f2p gems on anything but 3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor, and dock space

[rigid onyx]

skins are technically easily achievable for f2p, but your dock space will be so limited that it's not worth it

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

[barren tapir]

you CAN spend gems on skins but it's a terrible idea unless you only like 10% of all the ships in the game, don't care about making your fleets stronger at all, and are willing to scrap 90% of all ships

[vale spindle]

If you spend gems on skins, you will have to pay up eventually

[distant comet]

Only skins I plan on getting are for Shinano

[rigid onyx]

one skin is equivalent to like 60 dock space

[barren tapir]

a 1180 l2d skin is worth 59 dock space

it's your gems and it's not like you cant do it just be fully informed, and warned. is shinano worth losing 59 unique waifus

[rigid onyx]

the game is basically monetized only through skins

[barren tapir]

anyway, you get gems from what i said above...250 gems per full chapter 3* clear

[distant comet]

How many chapters are there?

[novel solstice]

Currently 15 chapters.

They add new ones pretty slowly, so while there is likely to be a chapter 16 at some point, I wouldn't expect it very soon.

[barren tapir]

15 and you'll find 14-15 very difficult if you're new

[slender turtle]

In your guy’s opinion, is it worth me 125ing perseus? I’ve had her at 120 for awhile, but wondering if its worth going all in with her

[soft raft]

Not really
Her value in content that would warrant 125 (Read: W15) diminishes a fair bit

[slender turtle]

Makes sense, doesn’t provide as much as unicorn. Better for OpSi since she has double preload?

[storm heron]

I don't even use perseus in W15 and still fine

[rigid onyx]

how much oil is it for hvar with oil cap on average

[storm heron]

almost 2x more expensive than 1:1

[rigid onyx]

just a single vanguard preload + uni preload already full clears first screen of opsi, so i wouldn't care for percy

[slender turtle]

Hmm gotcha, maybe shes good for having a healer while uni’s morale is low ig? Lol

[rigid onyx]

she's still incredibly strong, but uni is slightly stronger in a lot of places where it matters

uni also pulls ahead quite a bit in c15 because of fight length

[storm heron]

yes this is correct

[dreamy blade]

you want to combine preload with fast loads instead of more preloads

i just pulled both archerfish and u-81, no reason to raise archer without flasher tho right?

[rigid onyx]

percy is also probably the best healer when playing manually since you dont have to dump both your preloads but i am not brainrotted enough to manual to confirm this

[rigid onyx]

fishpack w/ flasher > wolfpack > fishpack w/o flasher

ultimately stacking gold subs gives pretty similar damage output

[dreamy blade]

my only other gold subs are ldv, u-96, i-168

[storm heron]

makes sense, definitely not on prolonged fightes like w15 though

[dreamy blade]

so ldv+2 uboats works right

[rigid onyx]

you can get u-37 from a shop somewhere and wishing well 81 or something

[barren tapir]

how good is asw plane from gearlab compared to purple depth charge? asking for a friend who hate gearswapping

[dreamy blade]

i could complete the wolfpack with u-410 but im assuming ldv would be better

[rigid onyx]

or just make fishpack and add flasher in when guam event reruns

[dreamy blade]

oh right i can get u37 from merit i think

[storm heron]

I just keep the subs there unlevelled until I have the BiS tbh, the only time you'll need sub is if you're 10% off clearing harby or CM, or if you decide to do w14 and 15

[dreamy blade]

i am currently prepping for w14 yes

[barren tapir]

it's for event, so dont think about ch14-15 just like...how do they compare for killing weak subs where hedge is very overkill anyway

subs only give me issue on bad rolls at 0 ammo but i'd like to solve that

[dreamy blade]

if you dont want to swap gear have you considered just running more dds

[barren tapir]

it's about asw

[dreamy blade]

yes dds are for asw

[barren tapir]

i have hedge and a purple depth charger, now i wonder if an asw plane works well enough like depth charger, cos i dont own a second depth charger

[rigid onyx]

looking at dps on wiki a purple asw plane is about 65% of a depth charge but i have no idea how asw works so i may be wildly incorrect

[barren tapir]

just pls answer this if you can

well worst case unicorn can heal herself, it should be fine then ty

[ebon storm]

fritz or yorktown 2? who is better or more usable without specific support like kearsarge

[barren tapir]

i think rumey

[dreamy blade]

fritz is much more flexible, she doesnt have any faction requirements

[ebon storm]

thenk

[barren tapir]

yk2 gets very big with kearsarge and enty, alone she is not as great. she's good in campaign tho but so is rumey iirc

[storm heron]

my taiyuan got 100 to 98 by doing 4 HECLPed reduced affinity sortie

[undone plover]

Isnt plane asw very not reliable?
Since it has ~15-20s cooldown?

[dreamy blade]

fr is extremely good in campaign fr

[barren tapir]

how do you even do that, it disables auto

[storm heron]

I pressed em

[barren tapir]

idk where u seen that, general motors is 2.86s base rld

[gaunt bison]

do maxed out exp lvl 125 characters still contribute to research xp gained?

[barren tapir]

looks good enough, the main issue w/ no asw is 3* node will have 3 very slow submarines that manage to slap me before i beat the node due to it being 3* and 0 ammo. i think.

[undone plover]

I always thought they do asw dmg with normal strikes

So it is like interception where it has its own rld

[barren tapir]

and its just so i dont get a freak accident with uni on 60% hp going into 3* 0 ammo and somehow taking 4 subs

[storm heron]

yes, try /prgrind commands in bot spam to see what else contributed

[gaunt bison]

thnx for the help, will do

[storm heron]

yea it's kinda funny how the plane launches every 3s or so

[barren tapir]

as eggsample

[hollow gust]

Doesn't really matter anyway though, those things are ment to supplement vanguard asw

[barren tapir]

for 1:1 event it ought to be enough

wait which one is amagicv crossfleet?

[hollow gust]

should be 165250

[runic lagoon]

I came up with these 4 fleets for OS, I am only using the first two but I just want feedback on if any of the ships don’t work well with eachother

[barren tapir]

ty. seems like rumey crossfleet is pretty good as well then comparatively it's rockets tho so light/med only

[turbid marsh]

oh, perhaps you are not a unicorn/aquila enjoyer?

[dusky narwhal]

How rare is getting the HVAR from D3?

[hollow gust]

much more rare now

[runic lagoon]

Am I supposed to put them in? I thought I only needed one healer haha

[hollow gust]

also i would really fix those fleets they arent very good

[dusky narwhal]

alright cool, I just got extremely lucky and completed one then

[hollow gust]

well you are kinda guranteed one from milestone and shop

[stone sluice]

It’s been 57 sorties and got 9 hvar plane designs

[barren tapir]

my current droprate is 16/81 = 19.75%

[hollow gust]

otherwise the rate has been like 1 everyy 5/6 runs?

[turbid marsh]

oh, they pack damage as well, aquila bomber mode, + independance. those three work pretty well together as opsi mob fleet.

[dusky narwhal]

I know I bought all from shop and got a few but havent gotten the last 5 from milestone, I was asking because this just happened and hoping the rated were way higher

[turbid marsh]

i see that you got implacable, can I assume you also have Luna + her unique equipment?

[hollow gust]

you have been pretty lucky then

[runic lagoon]

Ah so Indy, Aquila, and Unicorn? Gotcha

[storm heron]

double utf

[stone sluice]

It also happened to me. But I got unlucky by getting zero for the next 10 or 15 sorties

[dusky narwhal]

yeah I hope I can get a few more runs like that soon tho bbecause I didn't farm the first time and trying to get at least 6

[barren tapir]

thats good rng lmfao

without helps too note that

[storm heron]

yea the rates are bugged again I think

[barren tapir]

no they're not, im at <20% and bug rate is >40%

base rate should be 14-15%

[worldly pewter]

yeah pretty much everyone is at sub 20%

[stone sluice]

Mine is about that

[storm heron]

right tbh, 10k oil spent and only got 13, so 20k/hvar then

[turbid marsh]

i think its a great start, if you happen to have bearn meta or luna with her unique equip, they can be swapped independance out, and leave independance in your other fleet for crossfleet.

[mellow cape]

Brutal

[barren tapir]

no pain no gain

[storm heron]

I love how newbies also farm in this event like there's no tomorrow

[turbid marsh]

but your other fleets need improvements as well, can you quickly take a picture of all the URs that you own?

[hollow gust]

bugged rates mean you practically get one every other clear

[storm heron]

oh that's like 50%+

I'm at like 20-25% so far

[mellow cape]

For people that farmed it last event, is it okay to just get sky raider and dip?

[barren tapir]

think data collection said about 0.42-0.45 so basically tripled rate

[barren tapir]

ya youll get 1 for free anyway going for UR bulin

[mellow cape]

Tyty I'll stop at 6 hvars

[storm heron]

bruh why did u even ask then lol

[runic lagoon]

Yeah no problem, also I am not building a second musashi, I just leave her in to level when I am doing lab ships

[hollow gust]

5 is more then enough

6 is for shit fleets or meme fleets

[mellow cape]

It was more for the sky raider 😭

[vale spindle]

i mean its free bro

[mellow cape]

But I feel a little guilty not farming events when they come

[turbid marsh]

oh then what about just the gold ships, just first few rows is fine.

[turbid marsh]

if you have the resources, i would recommend yorktown enty implacable roon sirius(only need skill) neptune/portland, just a subtank for one boss fleet. the second boss fleet would be musashi vanguard fdg(if you are able to mlb/fate 5)/howe kron helena moon.

[soft raft]

Moon?

[turbid marsh]

and then 4th fleet would be just nj rumey z52 for crossfleet support + 3 random high level ships... i think thats the best i can recommend at this point. so like monarch/taihou + jave emden whatsoever. moon = roon muse

[bright tusk]

Anyone remember when PR6 was released?

[soft raft]

Mid July 2023

Which is roughly the same time as PR5, 7, and iirc 4 came out as well

[turbid marsh]

thats the best i can come up with. if you have eldridge retrofit material, go for eld kai. then try to get anchorage from pr4 asap. i dont see too many proper tanks.

[sharp socket]

can auto call subs only on boss

[hollow gust]

Should be July 13th for pr6

11th for pr7

[storm heron]

how do you get 48 kear prints in a day

nvm NUMBERed

[slim hinge]

Just a question to confirm. Someone told me that Neptune's added barrage in her Goddess of the Sea+ skill is not affected by her AP buff with MKV-Class AP Shells skill. Is this correct?

[tame jungle]

barrage data seems to suggest that they're classified as "normal" ammo so i'm inclined to believe that it's correct

[slim hinge]

Thanks

[tame jungle]

also, i've used her pretty much everywhere since her augment came out and i don't feel like her barrage has particularly spectacular damage (that and the numbers that pop up are not purple as they'd be if the barrage was AP)

[barren tapir]

yes, her aug barrage is normal shells sadly

[warm trail]

is there any good drop on d1??

[barren tapir]

it's still fairly good IF the fast moving torps hit. the shells are reaim iirc so pretty guaranteed

why would you farm d1

[tame jungle]

D1 is shitass just farm D3

[barren tapir]

anyway d1 has repair kit and gold qbofors which normally would be good but d3 has hvar

[runic cobalt]

Which cv can use double skyraider?

[tame jungle]

anything with 2 DB slots

[barren tapir]

saratoga and some others im sure

i doubt it being a good idea tho bc youd be looking at 25s loads without heavy tech/cats

[worldly pewter]

mamagi and haku have 2 db slots i think

[runic cobalt]

Yeah was thinking abt that, just asking tho ty

[barren tapir]

neptune enjoyer

[warm trail]

power cap

[forest palm]

"power cap"

[eager mulch]

power cap

[tame jungle]

power cap

[barren tapir]

what is power cap

[brazen star]

do ddgs count for cat dd skills?

[clever lance]

I never really run low on books but I seem to be now.. any suggestions?

[worldly pewter]

skill books ?

[novel solstice]

Combine some 2-hr and 4-hr books into the 8-hr ones. Farm some coins and buy them in the coin shop (there are frequently one or two to be found there, and it cycles often). Buy the ones in the opsi voucher shop.

[elfin hollow]

Is Enterprise still good?

[forest palm]

Ent will maintain relevance whenever they release a new broken plane

cause that's how she works

[rigid onyx]

im still coping for ent augment to put her to 100% proc rate

[pseudo hearth]

That sounds way too broken LOL

[slim hinge]

Better give her a UR retrofit first.

[barren tapir]

at that point just UR retro enty to give her that, bc 100% enty is UR level

[mellow cape]

they did tease it in one of those archive things about enterprise 2 whether that's a new ship or retro i dont know lol

[pseudo hearth]

Entry’s skill has always been strong

[wary escarp]

what are the drop rates for the f6f hvar hellcat

[barren tapir]

wasnt that enty meta

[rigid onyx]

enty was already better than haku pre fs5, haku just had a better buffer (shinano)

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, Enterprise 2 would be a Nuclear Powered Carrier, so that’d be way past the setting. She’d using Jets.

[rigid onyx]

albiet vastly more inconsistent her average damage was higher than haku with bis planes

[barren tapir]

essex will be happy

[sharp socket]

me when DDGs

[mellow cape]

would be extremly cool if they gave her that lift as the game's main ship

[barren tapir]

ddgs are from the 1970s btw so irl logic doesnt matter for azur lane

[sharp socket]

tai yuan was launched in 2016

[pseudo hearth]

There’s difference between shooting one missile, and having a plane that shoots missiles.

[storm heron]

are there exceptions though, like enemy armor being heavy?

[barren tapir]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_destroyer_Retivy_(1939) this taiyuan

anyway ddgs are mid 1970s tech

[sharp socket]

[storm heron]

that is retivy...

[stark quiver]

bruh

[pseudo hearth]

I think there’s a clear difference though between the Chinese DDGs and giving all Carriers access to Jets

[stark quiver]

did u know that soviet ships were given/sold to cn after
infact most of the cn fleet was made up of foerign ships

[barren tapir]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65) 1960s would fit if manjuu decides they want it to.

[barren tapir]

that is taiyuan after being given to china

[tame jungle]

i don't think this belongs here tho lmao

[barren tapir]

it'd be one (1) - enty 2 which is earlier than ddgs lol

[forest palm]

people seem to memory hole that while they didn't have much of military presence in WW2 for obvious reasons it wasn't like they had nothing

[elfin hollow]

~~ mods incoming ~~

[barren tapir]

anyway if u wanna keep talking about this we should move, but my point is enty 2 isnt actually that farfetched

[rigid onyx]

i've always believed they've been building up enty meta to be a gacha meta UR

anyways that not gph

[cunning bison]

just give retrofit she did have one-ish irl

[ocean pilot]

So which one is better to MLB first? Yorktown II or rumey? My UR bulin goes to z52

[storm heron]

pls show your URs

[barren tapir]

if they went to z52 then you cant mlb either right? or what are you saying

[storm heron]

ykII will be better in a vaccuum

[barren tapir]

i would say do rumey first unless you have kearsarge tho...

if kearsarge (d30 or soon) then it's a tossup

saving for feb UR before making a decision is also very valid if you're low on bulins

[cunning bison]

how do i pace myself to get kearsarge bps while on it

[storm heron]

so far the best way is just to wait for selectors from rerun event, and later on, her catchup

[cunning bison]

fyi jst need to finish cdc pt 2. at 60+ bps

[storm heron]

since evrybody's going for la9

[ocean pilot]

I mean, i can buy some UR from shop but dunno which is better to upgrade first

[barren tapir]

also get the DR print in medal shop each month, it's pr6 atm

[storm heron]

honestly it doesn't matter, probably ykII first so you can have BiS anti light

[ocean pilot]

Oh feb is new UR? Ig i just keep it as is

[cunning bison]

well this event ill jst settle w plymouth bps ig

[barren tapir]

yeah there is UR event near end of februrary

plymouth bps

[cunning bison]

so is pr6 focus and plymouth catch-up enuf?

[storm heron]

just pr7 focus if you're done with ply

[cunning bison]

nope not yet

[storm heron]

else prV till ply done

[barren tapir]

or pr4 if you need gear maybe

[cunning bison]

am on kears rn hence ya

[keen sable]

that's a long video for basically only one choice. fritz. you obviously shouldn't do the rest yet

[storm heron]

ehhh, what about ykII?

[barren tapir]

also so brest isnt worth sticking around for?

[keen sable]

6 more days before safe to mlb

[barren tapir]

i wanna pr7 for halford so it's moot im just curious

[cunning bison]

huh wym

[storm heron]

then the correct one would be to wait

[barren tapir]

am asking if you leave pr5 after ply and ignore brest

[stark quiver]

you could

[cunning bison]

no, i did brest first for alsace pairing, i alrdy have maxed brest (lmao)

[barren tapir]

i was asking for myself

[rigid onyx]

half finishing PR seasons is cancer

[barren tapir]

depends considering you can argue they'd gradually go up over time via events, catchups, eventually coining

[undone plover]

imo you should pace shipyard seasons around gear not ships
u can always finish ships with event BP and coining
u cant do that with gear

so for example PR5 once u finish plymouth and ply gun move on to 6

[barren tapir]

move on to 6

[undone plover]

well 6 or 7 whichever u prefer

[barren tapir]

and yeah i was thinking after plygun i go 4 this month for my CM gear then to 7 and stay there rip my pr6 waifus

[rigid onyx]

7 has better gear; 6 easier to complete ships soon enough w/ the catchup campaign

[cunning bison]

speaking of which will next cruise pass be data pack for pr4 or pr5?

[storm heron]

pr6 is kinda ehh though tbh, hinden and hindengun is like uhh

[barren tapir]

tbh after halford i might say fuck it and do 6, i have 3 waifus in 6 :/

[sharp socket]

pr6 has shimanto

[barren tapir]

gonna hurt not to grind la9s tho

[cunning bison]

the only jap i use is shinano lmaoooo

[undone plover]

u will have to do 6 anyway
and once u start it might as well stick around for 1 hinden gun
imo do pr6 for hinden gun and kearsarge and move on

[rigid onyx]

crazy word

[barren tapir]

also neko, i like neko

[storm heron]

shimanto is for AA

[barren tapir]

kearsarge isnt wife

[sharp socket]

shimanto goes into w15

if you dont have guam/laff2

[barren tapir]

would do pr6 for felix, shimanto, and hindy

[cunning bison]

how good? i have guam and laffey ii

[rigid onyx]

skipping between half finished pr seasons isn't usually recommended unless somethings changed in the last few years

[cunning bison]

(oh)

[sharp socket]

then dont bother with shimanto and just pr7

[barren tapir]

then back to pr7 for la9 and neko imo. kearsarge will eventually complete herself

[humble summit]

if i can clear hard , is it necessary to do easy mode on event?

[barren tapir]

the struggle between waifu and meta is real

[cunning bison]

at least w kearsarge i can finally get a proper cv fleet lmao

[barren tapir]

i already broke the law by hyperfocusing plymouth and ruppy and ignoring good ship like harbin it is what it is

[stone sluice]

Is it better to try getting 4 la-9s before PR8 than 3 la-9s then moving to PR5 for more ply guns?

[barren tapir]

harbin has been growing on me tho so i might go back for her at some point, or wait to coin ig

[cunning bison]

whats the current best anti-heavy cv fleet(i do not have amagi cv btw, mayb rerun)

[sharp socket]

well you dont need that many plyguns

[stark quiver]

my bb aux gun tho tho

[barren tapir]

pr5 coining is like early 2026?

[sharp socket]

like 2 is enough

[barren tapir]

wait

[cunning bison]

2 frm research or what

[barren tapir]

no wait pr5 coining is in a few weeks isnt it

[sharp socket]

1 from research 1 from protocore

[stark quiver]

6 plyguns is prolly enough

[undone plover]

haku shinano implacable/nakhimov

[barren tapir]

i mixed up my numbers. so i can coin harbin while working on pr7/pr6 then phew

[cunning bison]

pr only right?

[rigid onyx]

plygun on BBs is technically bis but barely an improvement, as opposed to getting LA-9s on your URs is a sizable upgrade.

[barren tapir]

yes only prs. DR4 will get coin also

suppose i can go for agir then

[sharp socket]

something tells me i have to burn all my mail oil for hvars, 12(24) runs later

[rigid onyx]

nobody knows when they let you coin DRs

[cunning bison]

yikes i do not have enough, will wait for dr4 to be coinable

[keen sable]

it was always copium but gl

[barren tapir]

oh i thought it tends to happen when the prs of the next season get coining

well doesnt matter cos agir and haku arent wife (agir is in her skins but im f2p)

[pseudo hearth]

Nah, you obviously need 12 for all 4 OS Fleets
||I’m joking obviously||

[untold fjord]

How viable are double skyraiders compared to hvars?

[cunning bison]

so if dr4 coining doesnt come before amagi cv, should i get amagi cv and not invest in hak?

[rigid onyx]

this is usually correct but agir doesnt even have a fate sim yet so who knows what theyll do

[barren tapir]

very slow, that's what. but good dmg

[cunning bison]

dive bombers generally unreliable unless u mobbing tbh

[viscid swift]

Amagi CV is event limited and has already released

[barren tapir]

don't DRs get fatesim based on them actually needing a buff

[sleek spade]

When will skyraiders be in lab

[cunning bison]

(rerun)

[barren tapir]

iirc drake got fatesim before fdg

[viscid swift]

FDG got her fate sim at the same time as coining so not quite sure what your point is

[sharp socket]

if you're looking for that 25s sync then sure double skyraider

[keen sable]

that's correct but coining didn't exist

[misty tree]

need skyraiders and HVAR-cats asap

[barren tapir]

i dont think DR fatesims have any pattern

[untold fjord]

well the whole reason you'd use the skyraider is bossing anyway

[viscid swift]

she just released last September, hasn't even been a year so you'll be waiting the best part of 2 years before she reruns

[pseudo hearth]

And Haku got her FS, but Agir hasn’t

[sleek spade]

Real

[keen sable]

you could say they've boxed themselves into a corner with coining