gameplay-help

[cobalt rapids]

after buying like 2-3 whites and 1-2 black

[storm heron]

how much does core data x3 gives monthly?

[rigid onyx]

depends on what level campaign chapter you do

[cobalt rapids]

times 3...

[final heart]

5-4 is the highest I can do currently because my tpd is god awful

[wind hazel]

[wind hazel]

this was for you btw doggo

[wind hazel]

use 2nd fleet to pad the stats, use DDs

[rigid onyx]

if you have level 101 average ships you can probably go up to higher chapter hard modes that will be almost double your current core data income

[wind hazel]

oh yeah you can also skip hard mode can't you?

don't need to beat 5-4 to go to higher chapter ones

[cobalt rapids]

yes but all hm past 5 have trp req
well except 13 but yea

[storm heron]

damn only 42 daily until 5 days, 210 + 13 daily for 19 days, 247, not even enough for 2 shells. Nvm then my advice void

[cobalt rapids]

but getting some trp padders isnt that hard

[storm heron]

just grab the shells

[final heart]

I'm kinda shafted a bit at ch7 hard because there's a fleet that needs 2x DD or 2x CL, I'm trying to clear ch8 to see I'm not shafted there

[quartz jungle]

They all require TRP though...

[wind hazel]

in the end, use 2nd fleet to pad stats

[quartz jungle]

Granted, you could probably go 6-1

[rigid onyx]

If you have level 101 average ships you could probably do chapter 9-1 hard once you meet stat reqs, or be able to do so after only a few weeks of gridning

[final heart]

I meant this, I don't have a well-built 2nd CL or DD

[wind hazel]

just put some sakura DDs in your dorm or something

[pseudo hearth]

Does anyone know if there’s a list for all the L2D skins that have the oath ring showing?

[wind hazel]

someone like kagerou is cheap

try to get gold oxytorp too

[rigid onyx]

there's also no reason to do x-4 hard if you're pushing core data, when the next chapter x-1 is probably as easy and gives 2 more per complete

[soft raft]

There's no dedicated list but someone in #al-general might have a majority of them memorized idk

[wind hazel]

upcoming event might be good time to raise some other ships

[soft raft]

Uh yes there would be one reason to do X-4

If you need Carrier retrofit blueprints

[rigid onyx]

if you're pushing core data

[soft raft]

X-1 for DD, X-2 for CA/CL, and X-3 for BB/BC as well

[hollow gust]

Helena Starter DD Pheonix Juneau Sandy etc

[final heart]

is this supposed to be farmed? I only see the rainbow oxy torp

[cobalt rapids]

u can get em in sakura tech boxes

[sweet delta]

Considering that Helena and Phoenix don't give trp, and Juneau and Sandy give poor torp

[storm heron]

only from gold and rainbow sakura tech boxes

[final heart]

yeah this one is an issue cus my gold unboxing has not been well

[hushed sorrel]

i am around lv 150 and am still using laffey. no doubt one of my favorites

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way unless you have a question

[quartz jungle]

Yeah that would be Achilles and Ajax for example

[keen sable]

well if you're pushing 100's you're well past due for second fleet

[barren tapir]

told y'all, every noobie runs into mega torp walls very quick

[storm heron]

my suggestion is to save oil for later on the event, just keep the lecture hall running for now and funnel the books you get to the low level units

[final heart]

what's the best way to get the second fleet to catch up?
repeat sortie old chapters?

[storm heron]

hopefully those said low level units that you want to be on second fleet will be ready til then

[quartz jungle]

Probably should suggest getting Kagerou/Naganami early as well

[barren tapir]

also gold torp in sakura box is very rare i got one after 3 months

[keen sable]

PP SP5 or higher

[barren tapir]

long after i didnt need it

[final heart]

what's pp?

[barren tapir]

polaris archive

and yeah either do that or wait for event and it'll help you grind up new ships

[keen sable]

I think ILD is probably the most accessible D1

[keen sable]

passionate polaris

[final heart]

omfg it took me a moment to realize that's an L and not an O

[cobalt rapids]

its both

[barren tapir]

ya it's not too bad ig

polaris sp5 easiest tho cos no req at all

[keen sable]

the low level is important too. maybe some newer ones have similar easy reqs but their D1 becomes L95

[storm heron]

seriously, why not just wait til event like next 2 days, are they running out of lecture hall exp?

[cobalt rapids]

where are u in normal campaign tho

[barren tapir]

only concern is c1 is 400 trp but a single trash dd will fix that

[final heart]

currently running ch8 cus I just hit lv60 yesterday

[barren tapir]

man seeing these other newbies, im so glad i joined with 2x exp event, i skipped over so much of the hard shit

[final heart]

my lecture hall is piss garbage, lv3 12% profiency

[keen sable]

you can't farm hvar's if you can't farm D3

[cobalt rapids]

ull need fleets with padder to grind event either way

so grind away

[keen sable]

much less D1

[barren tapir]

they might be cooked but at least there's a free hvar

[final heart]

can I ask the obligated "what should be my second fleet team?" question?

[storm heron]

nah they are not cooked cooked

[barren tapir]

event is 1 week, idk if they can reach d3 and also farm 25 prints in time. possible? yea. difficulty? fairly high imo

[keen sable]

shigure or z11 for fdg cope

[barren tapir]

actually not as hard. thankfully this event has 0 trp req

[storm heron]

nah, they won't even need hvars until like...

wait why is hvar needed again?

[barren tapir]

theyll need hvars before it archives

[cobalt rapids]

you should look to raise a 3rd cv assuming ure alr running 2 in ur current fleet so u can make the avi requirements in D stages

maybe even a 4th one

[stark quiver]

its not

[barren tapir]

you just want at least 2. which should be doable

[final heart]

I'm using fritz and unicorn in my first fleet, yeah
I'm thinking of building saratoga next

[barren tapir]

1 for yk2 1 for kearsarge

[cobalt rapids]

sounds good

[storm heron]

no wonder I can't recall like any moments when I'm like wish I had hvars or smth

[quartz jungle]

Because we've had no light armour bosses recently apart for Wichita Meta

[keen sable]

might as well just go sara gz at this point. pretty sure I told you gz yesterday

[stark quiver]

its nice to have for endgame players
i doubt a new player would need them

[barren tapir]

if you need more cv than just sara you can consider hornet since youll want to mlb her sooner or later for memento

[rapid grail]

why farm hvar when future even just introduces Ur fighter with better antilight dmg

[stark quiver]

hvars can come in mass

[storm heron]

idk in the future I will definitely not living unless there's some immortality created

[barren tapir]

because youll have like one (1) of those UR fighter

and you have more than 1 fighter slot in a typical cv comp for light

are hvars needed i would say not really besides yk2/kear skills if you want. are they great to have? yes.

[final heart]

prinz eugene in the last spot should be barely enough, yes?

[cobalt rapids]

having the best fighter + 2nd best plane for antilight cannot be bad

[barren tapir]

i mean by that metric you go from new player to endgame in a couple months if dedicated

i sure want them for next month's CM...

[stark quiver]

also
just patch up kear's hvar with a la9

[cobalt rapids]

can you mlb hipper meta ?

[keen sable]

brem bad and what's with the crappy bb

[storm heron]

right now we recommend cv for heavy armor, I wonder if in the future we just recommend hvars and cvs for light armor

[keen sable]

maryland exists

[barren tapir]

i definitely would benefit from having hvars in my depot and i would barely even consider myself a midgame player so that doesnt feel right to me

[final heart]

I forgot to exchange for her copies

[cobalt rapids]

uh what, kear and yorkii have been a thing for quite a while now ?

[sharp socket]

BB and CV both do well against light, CV is just much higher investment needed to be good

[keen sable]

it's still there...

[final heart]

I ran out of currencies

[barren tapir]

higher investment but also iirc higher ceiling?

[sharp socket]

yes, but the ceiling wont matter if both can kill

[barren tapir]

fair

[stark quiver]

when youre a endgame player,
you want fast kills

[sharp socket]

not unless the devs make something so much harder that both cannot kill

[quartz jungle]

Birmingham/Shigure/Z11 vanguard should be decent enough, do you have Nelson already?

[final heart]

she's on fleet 1, yea

[sharp socket]

if both are maxed out with the best stuff, CV will be better

[barren tapir]

i find myself in a strange position of soon having 3 UR cv (4 with shinano) but 0 UR bb (cos i am lukewarm on fdg and prefer cvs honestly tbf) so hvars would benefit me a lot. i can def acknowledge im not the typical midgame player but i do think saying that it's only nice to have for endgame players is a tad reductive

[storm heron]

higher investment and it smells like all or nothing kind of thing, I believe after 1 year of playing I can't even make a light armor CV setup better than BB...

[sharp socket]

its just whether or not you have the best stuff which is the main problem

[cobalt rapids]

every1 reaches endgame and these things are limited
ull be in endgame for years vs the very few months u spend in early to mid

[stark quiver]

i miss my beginner days

[cobalt rapids]

i dont

[quartz jungle]

Might want to level 3 carriers then with Tico/GZ/Saratoga

[stone sluice]

I think you can get 1 UR bullin by farming points on the upcoming rerun event starting this Thursday

[barren tapir]

it'd help to define what 'newbie' 'midgame' and 'endgame' are also

[sharp socket]

didn't we have this sorted already

[final heart]

no battleship?

[cobalt rapids]

newbie is pre oilcap
midgame is pre harbiter kill
endgame is everything post

[barren tapir]

if we did i dont remember but i'd consider myself midgame

[quartz jungle]

Well you don't really have any decent one rn so yes

[barren tapir]

oh yeah hvars will help me on this months harby i am hoping to kill

[thick plume]

Ok thanks bro

[barren tapir]

last month i got it to 23%

[sharp socket]

newbie is pre w12
mid is when you start doing opsi and b4 harbiter
late is harbiter kill and w14/15
endgame is everything else

[final heart]

someone told me I could use maryland, should I buy her?

[sharp socket]

which is stuff like CM, meta fights etc

[barren tapir]

nelson would be better imo if ur gonna retrofit a big seven bb

[final heart]

nelson is in my first fleet

[stark quiver]

and here we have the thing
so many different definitions for stages of game

[barren tapir]

ohh okay. then maryland is fine. no bb in medals/no hood?

[quartz jungle]

Yeah buy her from guild shop

[final heart]

I can buy hood too, though, that'll tank my medal stock since I only have 130

[barren tapir]

what's your medal shop? bb and?

[final heart]

BB and DD

[barren tapir]

but hood is probably a decent pickup for you

you could also go tirpitz for ironblood tech and help with your torp issue, but this is a hipster move

[final heart]

I'll be a cheapskate and use maryland

[cobalt rapids]

she needs retro to do stuff

[final heart]

it's alright, I still have a long way until I can get enterprise anyway

[storm heron]

you probably need a bc iirc

[keen sable]

not for near term events or archives

[storm heron]

are the datas in aldb?

[keen sable]

8H to 10H could use a BC

[sharp socket]

i remember needing a BC for hardmode early on

[storm heron]

probably because you could live without a BC but just hard
iirc because Idk where exactly the imposed requirements are

[storm heron]

but yea maybe only this

[barren tapir]

9-1 example. yes you need bc to run full fleet, but you can do partial fleet if needed

[keen sable]

generally anywhere with a bc req still allows BB + 1

[storm heron]

oh yea btw,

[cobalt rapids]

i would also go for fdg tech but considering u got rumey i would take bisko

[storm heron]

I should mlb amagi cv here right?

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt look like enough bulins for mlb

[storm heron]

oh yea about that, I have 3 more bulins on shop

[turbid marsh]

oof hard decision....

[rose cosmos]

Is this counted as a budget?

[turbid marsh]

z52 rumey and amagi...

[storm heron]

I can't even 2 shot maihou because I don't have backline buffer

[sweet delta]

Budgeted players shouldn't have a nep gun nowadays

[rose cosmos]

What do you recommend

[storm heron]

budget players won't have 2 tigercats

[rose cosmos]

Seattle gun?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your budget and where you're using her

[turbid marsh]

taihou m is medium armor right?

[keen sable]

rainbow is the new budget

[storm heron]

average regular's budget: 2 la-9, +13 catas and plyguns

[turbid marsh]

i think go for amagi cv if you go for taihoum.... pretty sure taihoum is heavy armour actually

[quartz jungle]

Use Felix gun or twin 150mm SKC/28 Prototype not Neptune gun on Fritz

[storm heron]

this one?

[quartz jungle]

I'll been 2 shoting it with my PvP fleet + Guam instead of Eldridge

[storm heron]

I thought gold trip' 155 is better for budget

[quartz jungle]

Oh bruh, sorry the prototype version

[rose cosmos]

This one?

[keen sable]

no but why do you want a cheapskate fritz

[wispy cosmos]

ships with long range aux guns want something with no or little spread

if you cant afford the gear lab option the budget is just tbtsk

[zenith swallow]

Which UR to focus limit break?

[sweet delta]

How many bulins can you get soon?

[zenith swallow]

2

[rain vine]

finish guam

[turbid marsh]

i would go for the godly z52 XD

15000 pt for yorktown 2 event rainbow bulin too XD

[zenith swallow]

I don't have yorktown II tho

[sweet delta]

Guam

[tropic tusk]

shes coming on jan 9

[zenith swallow]

Oh damn, rip my pulls then

[tropic tusk]

but yea finish ur guam

and dont half lb UR next time

unless they dupe

[turbid marsh]

i meant im not too sure if you had count the event rainbow bulin from yorktown 2 event which is in like 2 days or something into the '2' bulins you can get soon

[still merlin]

Alsace's skill

Vichya Dominion Vanguard ship in your fleet hits an enemy with her Main Guns: gains 1 stack of Divine Sanction; when 12 stacks are reached...
does this mean the FFNF/MNF vanguard ship has to proc main gun 12 times? (assuming only 1 FFNF/MNF vanguard) or you can goes around by using main gun that shoot twice?

[sweet delta]

Each shell counts

[still merlin]

so for example if I use a CA and hold this main gun, 1st shot = 2x2 = 4 = 4 stacks?

[sweet delta]

if 4 shells actually hit the enemy then yes

[still merlin]

Yes assuming all hit landed onto the same target

How do ppl even memorized these main gun's name?

[vernal flume]

what are some chases in the medal shop again，enterprise and？

I have hood in my shop!

[still merlin]

It's different between server per month iirc so I can't rly tell

[vernal flume]

I got bb and dd rn

Do I swap out hood?

[gilded knot]

Which do I pick? Am leaning towards Saiun Kai for Enty

[sweet delta]

bf109g

[misty tree]

bf109g

[soft raft]

Bf109g

[vernal flume]

Bf109g

[tropic tusk]

this wep is uselss right?

[soft raft]

Saiun Kai is mainly for syncing timing adjustment

[tropic tusk]

idk y its asking for password to disassemble it

[rain vine]

keep 1 copy on gangut, throw the rest

[gilded knot]

Wow ok I know it's very good against light/medium armor but I didn't expect it to be so one sided

[soft raft]

That's because it's default gear for Gangut

[gilded knot]

Thanks yáll!

[keen sable]

it's gangut gun

[vernal flume]

I just copy past

[tropic tusk]

as in like she must use this wep?

[keen sable]

whatever you need

[tropic tusk]

y is that?

[vernal flume]

Big bro if hood in shop I swap?

[tropic tusk]

oh

[keen sable]

because she buffs it by like 200%

[tropic tusk]

f6f hellcat blue is useless right?

[keen sable]

who is your current bb?

[rain vine]

yes

[vernal flume]

Pennsylvania

3rd day in

[keen sable]

sure you'll need them both and since hood is behind

[vernal flume]

Ty my hero, should I invest any bulins in her?

[keen sable]

no other gold ships?

[vernal flume]

Nop

And not planning on spending

[keen sable]

yes you should invest in hood

[vernal flume]

tankyu super ~~diddy ~~

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

haha unique name

[fast steppe]

is Eldridge's slow enough for a cv fleet

[sweet delta]

depends on the cv fleet and the boss. Usually eldridge alone isn't ideal

[storm heron]

depends on the boss

for example 60% is not enough for magato when she's moving, but 80% is enough for maihou

[fast steppe]

it's for the guild boss

don't have her and I'm not sure how her skill works either

[sweet delta]

if you time correctly, you can use 0 slows

[fast steppe]

but I can borrow her

[sweet delta]

but guild boss is too easy, just put rainbow ships and win

[fast steppe]

aight

[stark quiver]

just one strike
no slow needed

[storm heron]

Ah the good old days, when I try syncing ark royal to the borrowed shino and hakuryuu

[misty tree]

How do i 80% slow? asking for a friend of course

[storm heron]

stack slows more than 80%

Idr how to do it tbh, it has been a while since I didn't use nakh's freeze

[misty tree]

So, strictly for research purposes, if i stack eldridge and Ark Royal slow, i can hit Maiho more?

[storm heron]

I think so, idk about the position though

[misty tree]

Maybe ark at flag to proc both at the same time?

[storm heron]

yea but idk if ark should go first or middle or last in launch sequence

[misty tree]

If Amagi, Shinano and Ark in fleet against Maiho, is it Shinano who needs to launch first?

[storm heron]

you can try it and see if the torps connect

[little tree]

Is this any good

[storm heron]

not worth crafting

[keen sable]

strictly for research purposes ark is like the easiest thing in the world to sync. 8s window is gigantic. This isn't some teensy tiny stop window everyone needs to squeeze into.

[storm heron]

wait that's good?

[misty tree]

So, strictly for research purposes, it wouldnt matter if Ark fired first or second?

[little tree]

~~ doggo misleading me smh~~

[wispy cosmos]

r u main gun plate limited

[little tree]

No i got like 1.5 k

[keen sable]

tell me that's 1.5k gold parts not purple

[little tree]

Purple

[wispy cosmos]

it's just a shinier twin gun with more fp, there may or may not be better things for you to be spending your coin and plates on but it's not a bad gun no

[storm heron]

maybe I was mislead back then because of this

[little tree]

I got 100 gold gun plates take it or leave it

[storm heron]

it's like a sidegrade to the purple 410

[misty tree]

Not bad

[storm heron]

so yeh still not worth crafting imo

[clever lance]

What’s optimal team against taihou?

[stark quiver]

implac,shinano,amagi cv
z52,kazagumo,unzen

[storm heron]

sc: the updated ectl

[rose cosmos]

Btw, do I need the rainbow AA or sextube is already enough?

[stark quiver]

shes fine with rainbow

[storm heron]

in a fleet that needs her AA, she usually isn't the highest AA on the fleet, so range would be better
Rainbow AA is not neccessarily needed but it helps

[jade ibex]

What comp reliably clears w15 auto?

[vernal flume]

What should be exchanged in the event shop, the one under z52 event shop

[little tree]

is Nana Better then z23?

[stark quiver]

i guess something like
musashi,aquila,unicorn,guam,shimanto,eldridge
alsace,yorktown2,independance/healer if needed,brest,sandy,laffey2
itll probably work on safe

[stark quiver]

theres nothing under
if you mean the shop above it, check pins

[vernal flume]

Ah

[rose cosmos]

So a felix gun and staag should be fine also?

[stark quiver]

tldr, do commisions normally and youll be able to get all the important stuff

[atomic abyss]

No bruh
That's making her way worse

[rose cosmos]

[atomic abyss]

Her AA is actually very good, just not the top
She also wants a high rof gun, most certainly not the Felix gun

[stark quiver]

she needs a fast firing gun
which is why you hear her yap sundaa harto

[atomic abyss]

Ideally, gold single 113 for main gun

[sweet delta]

can she equip felix gun?

[atomic abyss]

Good question
She isn't Otto or Felix so...

[rose cosmos]

I think so? It’s still aa rite

[atomic abyss]

No most German DDs cannot use the Felix gun

Pretty sure it's just Felix, Otto, Z23 and like maybe 2 others?

[last zenith]

Is pr3 the only one that has speed up options, also is it worth it using the combat data pack there

[stark quiver]

no and no

[rain vine]

combat data packs are never worth using
you scrap all of them for protocore, regardless of season

[stark quiver]

mebot

[slow fox]

Tank
Mid
Off

3/6
1/6
2/6

ehe

[slow fox]

I got spotted what the

suchispotted

[storm heron]

what about the ratio of damage though, wasn't there an asumption on how much damage coming from where? I thought it

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

when do we start getting supporting barrages in meta fight?
and how many bars does it usually deal

[keen sable]

24, 25, 26, 28 did 27 sink?

[storm heron]

so like next week?

[stark quiver]

how much bars does it deal?
or is it unknown

[storm heron]

at the point in time when I asked that, it was 10% of magato

[stark quiver]

holefully itll help me one shot

[storm heron]

but I remember someone said that it scales as the meta showdown event duration get shorter or smth

[stark quiver]

are there any specific cv timings for taihom?

[rose cosmos]

Ok so sextube is still a good choice for her rite

Since it’s a fast gun?

[stark quiver]

im talking about main gun
yours is fine right now
and UR aa is also fine

[rose cosmos]

Ah, what do you recommend

[stark quiver]

113mm single gun from gear lab
but its an expensive upgrade

[rose cosmos]

113 or 133

[storm heron]

[dense briar]

Guys is charybdis worth investing in?

[wind hazel]

not really

[dense briar]

Not even for mobbing?

[wind hazel]

there are a lot of better ships that you can invest in than charybdis

[dusk niche]

Are there people that predict upcoming events pretty well? Im curious of the next limited UR pickups (besides the revealed ones like kronshadt and yorktown 2)

[stark quiver]

next UR rerun is gonna be implac
and thats abt all we know
devs are pretty good at keeping new URs hidden until like a week from event

[dusk niche]

Oh cool okay how did you know about implac?

I wanna try to stay updated as well

[exotic wren]

Stream

[stark quiver]

she was the next UR ship to be ran after yk2, which makes her in line for UR rerun after yk2

[slow fox]

This is true

[rose cosmos]

Wait, the hellcat in the event is the different one from gear lab?

[rigid onyx]

honestly I don't like how often 113 gets recommended for z52 considering the performance difference and it's expense.

I'd rather make 10 flapjacks before a 113 and I feel as though the people have played enough to not miss the electronics are those who already know about 76 vs 113

[wind hazel]

99% people that recommend 113 always note that they are expensive, i don't see the issue

[dense briar]

How about in aircraft carriers? Are there any noteworthy Elites or SRs should i go for

[wind hazel]

saratoga, independence, enterprise are among the earlier available ones

[dense briar]

Noted on that, thanks a bunch

[wind hazel]

and of course unicorn, but i assume you already have that permanently on your fleet

[rose cosmos]

As for the hvar hellcat, according what I read it is basically a stronger hellcat with weak aa rite

[keen sable]

what aa

[plain saffron]

Hellcat but instead of bomb it carry rockets

[atomic abyss]

Completely wrong
It's not used for AA, it has practically none
It's used against light armour bosses in opsi/cm/meta

[plain saffron]

And no intercept

[rose cosmos]

Isn’t that kind of whatever?

[atomic abyss]

For campaign? Yes

[plain saffron]

Which part

[atomic abyss]

For opsi? Lmfao no it's one of the best gears there

[rose cosmos]

For campaign yeah

[atomic abyss]

Campaign isn't the only game mode

And many of the best gear comes from opsi

[rose cosmos]

Idk I feel like I can bruteforce through monthly opsi though

[atomic abyss]

You feel like you can, but have you actually done so?

[rose cosmos]

I am doing that yeah

[plain saffron]

You can survive without hvar

[rigid onyx]

hvar hellcats are the premier fighter for light armor bossing content

[sweet delta]

Fr fr opsi is mid game content now

[slow fox]

Nagami mentioned

[atomic abyss]

Including hard arbiter?

I mean you can live without it, but why wouldn't you get the free ones?

[plain saffron]

You use it if you use antilight CV fleet, if you use BB you won't need it

[slow fox]

Gatekeepers when end game content is 0.2-shotting meta/CM bosses

[rose cosmos]

Not hard arb but I can mindlessly pressing the red cloud and letting it clears itself

[atomic abyss]

Strongholds are easy af tho

[rose cosmos]

Yeah

[rigid onyx]

opsi mobbing is easy

[atomic abyss]

Abyssals are harder, arbiter more still

[atomic abyss]

^

[plain saffron]

Also you can still do hardbiter without hvar

[storm heron]

^

[bold cove]

May i ask, yk2 will be available after tomorrow maintenance?

[elfin hollow]

Via gacha, yes.

[rose cosmos]

Oh fuck update is tmr? I thought it is next week and just blew a bunch of cashes earlier to build some flapjacks and a 113

[cobalt gate]

i wish i could reset equipments, kinda regret on how i spent some gold plates

[tropic tusk]

U can buy destroying them

[cobalt gate]

don't think you get refund?

[tropic tusk]

U will get refund for upgrade mats ,but not crafting mats

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[cobalt gate]

oh so full upgrade partial coin and no crafting?

[tropic tusk]

I think only little coin but I know those purple plates did return to me

[cobalt gate]

so for the mystic robe and elixer barrier effect does it have to be on a collab unit?

[wind hazel]

on ryza unit only

[cobalt gate]

i see

[plain saffron]

Get some coins and some plates, no bp

[warm trail]

where to get these?

[rigid onyx]

opsi

[warm trail]

where is that

oh no

this tiring one?

[wind hazel]

opsi is fun

[vale cradle]

Should i use my 2 UR bullins to MLB new jersey or use it to make my musashi 5 stars

[crimson glacier]

id save

NJ just isnt worth bulins and no reason to use them on a ship you cant max

[warm trail]

i can just do with 1 fleet right for opsi

[crimson glacier]

if its good fleet sure

[warm trail]

why my fleet reduced power 2k each

[crimson glacier]

idk i never look at power

[vale cradle]

My NJ alr at 5 stars

[crimson glacier]

cool but she still isnt worth bulins imo

[vale cradle]

Hmm ok, how abt musashi

[crimson glacier]

musashi is really good but no reason to use bulins if you cant max her

[slow fox]

Why would you use Bulins over Musashi

[vale cradle]

Ok then

[crimson glacier]

basically only use UR bulins when its really good UR and you can get instantly to max

[vale cradle]

Ok 👍

[warm trail]

ah now i remember i took off there equipments

[south sequoia]

should I replace 4th fleet with
Rumey/Yk2/Kear/Guam/Helena/Eld

ah wait no guam is already on the 3rd fleet I forgot woops

then I move laffey down as 4th fleet tank then unzen is back to mob

thing is kinda doubting if I should push through it since soyuz and amagi fleet already clears hard

[rose cosmos]

Dumb question but you are supposed to have only one mob fleet in opsi?

I'm dumb then

[south sequoia]

Yeah

just one fleet is enough, the other 3 deal with bosses

if you're stacked late enough in the game it can only just be 2

[bright tusk]

Z52
single 113mm > twin 100kai?

[sharp socket]

yes

[hushed delta]

shouldn't you only use ssr cats in opsi? I've heard cat rarity helps with finding rare loot on those meowficcers dispatch tiles

[cunning bison]

(+ cheaper)

[barren tapir]

most important for mobfleet but yes. whoever picks up the cat nodes wants highest level gold cats you have

[hushed delta]

if you want rumey anywhere there I'd switch Soyuz for her, send Soyuz to 4th and move Alsa and VnH to the mob fleet (1st), or move NJ and Yk2 to mob instead (and where is my gurl Mogoator?)

[elfin hollow]

Do heavy construction give me 2 points in UR exchange or 1 like light construction

[left cedar]

yes, but not worth ...
do 1 light day, keep ur cubes for Events, and if u wanna a specific ship from perma pools, w8 4 WW, happens annually in CN Anny and EN Anny (if u are EN player) not total sure for others (JP, TW, KR and CN)

[eternal basalt]

We get CNY next week, good for gathering those points for perma UR

[warm trail]

does opsi cost morale ?

[eternal basalt]

No

[warm trail]

nice

[left cedar]

also no Aff gains, and lil amount of XP if compared to campaign

[alpine trench]

Does it make sense to spend the cube on these? I don't have any ur characters except the ones from the last event

[left cedar]

here, the explanation

and by UR guarantee, Shin till u MLB her, after it, UvH or NJ, Shima is the lowest prio, and dont spend ur UR BUllin on Perma URs

[soft forum]

Is shimakaze good?

[sinful escarp]

permanent pool UR rates is a scam, you are better off letting it build up and only pulling on events

[left cedar]

dont bring anything for noone basically, but have one of the strogest TRPs around

[alpine trench]

got it thankss

[glossy granite]

What to buy from core exchange 🤔

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[left cedar]

3 par of shells, Indep
free to use, but keep a safe margin for future updates on Coreshop
PS: SSs aux gears come from here, so its a option to invest on it after Indep

[analog swallow]

opsi fleet help

[whole crypt]

just to add: we have a UR rerun coming tomorrow, rushing URs is also not useful if you can't MLB them

[glossy granite]

Will 70k coins be enough for tomorrow

[sinful escarp]

at the end of the day its all up to rngesus, you can get them all in 4 pulls or 500 pulls
but its still better to have more resources

but i would stop farming for now and use my oil for the event instead of farming more coins

[whole crypt]

being a rerun there's also build tickets, you don't need to dive headfirst with coins and cubes

[rose cosmos]

I had 60k this morning and now I have 400

[bold stream]

First time I am seeing this. Is that a random SSR? Do we have a pool for what I can get there?

[glossy granite]

Wtf how

[sinful escarp]

its a chance to get a ship up to SR. but i dont remember even getting 1 ship from that

[glossy granite]

Knowing azur lane its prob a bullin

[left cedar]

take a HUGE amount of time, and the chance of drop are abysmall low, and only base characters can be droped, also can be common, Rare, Elite and SR irc ...

TLDR: extreme shit

[bold stream]

And I thought I got extremely lucky to get that

[rose cosmos]

It’s basically a 1 cube roll imo

[left cedar]

the only explanation to be worth it is if u gona be long time without open game, so can be a thing since the gain in time afk is alot better than shorts with less rewards

[glossy granite]

Also guys the tomorows event dosent it have like insane stuff in the exchange shop?

[sinful escarp]

take it tomorrow before MT starts, it still will be there

[bold stream]

Okay i will thanks!

[glossy granite]

Is san diego the only SR that can be retrofit into UR?

[kindred arrow]

It has the Skyraider and some HVAR prints
Both are the highest priority to get from the shop

[fast steppe]

warspite eldridge

[kindred arrow]

Yuudachi too

[fast steppe]

is there any reason to keep lower quality tech boxes below purple around

or can I just compose them all into purples

and how many purples should I keep around for researches? I've got something like 300 of each rn

[kindred arrow]

If you care about you get more from scrapping without composing, but anyways nah

[wind hazel]

compose to purple, and never do research that uses box

[fast steppe]

even if it guarantees a good drop?

[wind hazel]

it's a shit research

[kindred arrow]

Better to go with the actual gear research (the one that costs plates)

[fast steppe]

so just open all the boxes

[whole crypt]

box researches do not drop the PR pool so it's 🚮

[fast steppe]

the what

[whole crypt]

the actual print pool with research gear of that series

[kindred arrow]

Wait they don't? lmao they garbage garbage then

I thought it did

[whole crypt]

say you pick a box research that guarantees you BFG prints, that research will not have anything else from PR4 i.e. 0 chance of Tenrai prints

[fast steppe]

anyway is there a list of blues to keep for lab

[whole crypt]

next time you see one tap on the icons for what it can drop

[kindred arrow]

I just ignore anything that isn't plates, faces, cubes or coins

[whole crypt]

practically the only thing that you craft from blue that's a pain to get is junkers d-4, can't remember which blue plane but it's exclusive to KMS blue and purple boxes

[kindred arrow]

Hmm also the blue AA from french boxes for the rainbow AA no?

[whole crypt]

I personally don't recommend crafting it from blue but it depends on whether you have more spare proto cores or lab materials

[fast steppe]

don't have french boxes

I think I have the trashcan though

[whole crypt]

french boxes only come from the shop, in the blue variety

if you have spare proto cores the trashcan is only 15 PR2 prints

[wind hazel]

if you have the french boxes, then you want to keep the aa gun and twin torpedo, that's about it

[whole crypt]

it saves you the crafting cost of the trashcan itself

[elfin hollow]

Quintiple vs Triple torps

I've read back from this channel that y'all prefer the threes instead of the fives

[wind hazel]

[elfin hollow]

Which one should I be using? (Purple) quintiple magnetic or (purple) triple

[whole crypt]

we prefer the fours

[fast steppe]

any of these I can just get rid of

[whole crypt]

triples are more of a speed cope that may or may not be better on some ships

[kindred arrow]

Ideally neither but uuuuh I guess the triples might be better between those two?

[whole crypt]

if you're comparing purple only then both quads and triples are better than quints by a large margin

[elfin hollow]

The other ones I have is a blue quadruple or whatever that chunky green torp was

[kindred arrow]

Open your gold IB tech boxes and pray for gold quads

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

purple boxes have 0 chance of gold quads

[kindred arrow]

BRUH yeah sorry brain fart

[left cedar]

if purple can gib me gold quad mags probally i will enough to gear around 300 ships just oppening them

[kindred arrow]

I'm it's not even EN issue I just forgot purples don't give gold

[elfin hollow]

I opened a purple and I got a BB gun XD

[fast steppe]

i find there's some purple stuff not listed here that's just outclassed by gold stuff though

purple bofors etc

[elfin hollow]

Oh also don't be mad at me I started over since I felt like I'm too far gone with my mistakes on Rumey event

Current fleet.

How's this fleet? Started over from scratch. They're not from pulls

[left cedar]

norfolk tank ... ok, i got a teleport to 2k20

[elfin hollow]

Save from the tutorial, I didn't pull the rest of the ladies

[left cedar]

where is ur Portland ?

[fast steppe]

so idk if there's some other weaker purple stuff not included in here that's safe to scrap if I've got a lot of gold stuff already

[whole crypt]

Any equipment not mentioned is up to you if you want to scrap it or not.

[kindred arrow]

Change Guilio meta for a Penny too

[elfin hollow]

Still trying to get her from the new commander missions

[left cedar]

pretty sure u got one Portland guarantee b4 that

[whole crypt]

obviously if you have something that is a direct uptier or upgrade then the lower version is 🚮

[fast steppe]

aight

[whole crypt]

you're guaranteed one from clearing 2-1 with newbie

[elfin hollow]

change Giulio to Pennsylvania
Obtain Portland

I'm planning on getting a Nelson from 2-3 for flagship. Is she still okay? ECGC said she's (Retro) is a good flag

[left cedar]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

u already did a read on this ?
if no, read it, its full of details and will help u quickly than i, getting same tips here

[whole crypt]

Nelson. Don't waste time in 2-3 farming for her.

[elfin hollow]

OH THAT'S MORE INSIGHTFUL 🙏🙏🙏

I was busy reading the Mob and Boss fleet guides

[kindred arrow]

For the record, if you want to ever go back to your old account, there are no mistakes that can't be fixed really (it may require 💳 if you wasted your gems but still)
No account is destroyed beyond salvation

[tame jungle]

unless you scrap something like hedgehog

[fast steppe]

btw when did the new event hard mode system start? will yk2 rerun have it

[whole crypt]

that's still salvageable

[tame jungle]

but a big pain in the ass regardless

[rigid onyx]

scraped hedgehog

[left cedar]

the only dammation its lose Fakkyu, shit i want this so bad

[elfin hollow]

I did scrapped the Hedgehog because idk what to do with it 😭

[whole crypt]

not having Hedgehog just makes 14 and 15 annoying but it's not beyond salvation

[kindred arrow]

Eldkai to the rescue

[tame jungle]

surely he has eldridge retro

[left cedar]

u did wut ?!?!

[whole crypt]

I don't get why "not knowing what to do with it" goes to "get rid of it"

[elfin hollow]

No fam don't worry I'm using my common sense and reading comprehension this time in my new account.

This channel is helping me a lot

[whole crypt]

it's not a problem you'll have with only hedgehog though other things might be more recoverable

like I said though, not having Hedgehog is annoying but it's not the end of the world

[left cedar]

aside jokes here and there, some fights or a bit of salty we are here to help

[fast steppe]

anyone

[tame jungle]

there are NO jokes

[left cedar]

gud one

[kindred arrow]

Yes there's hardmode in ykii event

[whole crypt]

new format probably will only apply to reruns when the first event using it reruns

[elfin hollow]

Imma get walled down again on C and D stages just like previous Event 😭

[whole crypt]

let me just check patch notes real quick...

[fast steppe]

i mean being able to switch to d3 without clearing c1-d2

[kindred arrow]

Ah yeah then no

[fast steppe]

when did it start

[whole crypt]

first major event using it should be Amagi CV

so in 2 years

[fast steppe]

what's the UR sequence again

[whole crypt]

Shinano, New Jersey, Shimakaze, UvH, Kronshtadt, Vanguard, Musashi, Yorktown II, Implacable, Bismarck Zwei, Unzen, Guam, Soyuz, Alsace, Amagi CV, Fritz Rumey

[warm trail]

when do u use high eff logistics?

[fast steppe]

balls

[whole crypt]

when you don't have time to play

[warm trail]

wait what

[eternal basalt]

Guam + Laffet, Alsace + Mog, Fritz + Z52

[tame jungle]

if you've got limited time to play, it's almost like doing 2 runs in 1 go

[whole crypt]

it practically just squeezes 2 runs into 1, there's no advantage to use it if you have time to just keep playing

[warm trail]

ahhhh

[wind hazel]

using them in war archive is the only advantage

[fast steppe]

btw do you guys just chuck random ships into dorm L2 when you're not grinding

[whole crypt]

past a certain point you will be gated by oil available or ship morale which also goes down twice as fast

my dorm 2/F is my 12-1 leveling fleet

[warm trail]

yeah, need more oil

[elfin hollow]

Speaking of morale-

If theoretically my oathed Z23 gets down to Disappointed, would her oath status be gone?

[fast steppe]

no

[frank pulsar]

no, but youll lose 6% stats

[whole crypt]

you lose 3%

[kindred arrow]

There's no divorce mechanic in the game dw

[fast steppe]

can you go below 100 once oathed?

[whole crypt]

oath is 9, max is 12, you lose affinity as much as you keep running but not the oath status and 9%

[frank pulsar]

i thought its 6% per 100 affinity mb

[warm trail]

z52 good?

[tame jungle]

z52 good

[eternal basalt]

It is, but oath overwrites

[whole crypt]

because you can't lose oath status the 9% is staying

[left cedar]

in general terms i belive she is the toppest VG one avaliable

[warm trail]

no wei, i thought she's bad so i did not bought her in the event

[frank pulsar]

one of our strongest dd rn ye

[kindred arrow]

but why, she was free

[whole crypt]

is there some reason you'd think she's bad

[left cedar]

as i said, in general terms i belive she is the toppest VG avaliable

cuz she does everthing at least good in all

[warm trail]

i thought i have her , turns out , they were different

[wind hazel]

this is wrong btw

you can lose below 9%

[left cedar]

AA, ASW, buffs and/or debuffs, DMG, Tank capabilities ...

[tame jungle]

see you in 2 years for the rerun then

[left cedar]

it will remain 9% even if u reach 0 moral

[tranquil rock]

is lafii still better

[warm trail]

yet anoher mistake

[wind hazel]

am i getting this wrong

[frank pulsar]

depends

[whole crypt]

oath locks your affinity bonus, you can go to 0 affinity it's still going to keep the base oath 9%

[warm trail]

i was around laff 2 also, did not bought her

[kindred arrow]

On certain context yes, on others no

[left cedar]

alot time ago i remeber someone did the test ...
bombzen, Riceist and others old players are here

take it some time, but he did reach 0 moral with Kitakaze and we confirm the 9% stats remain

[wind hazel]

isnt it just 3% if you have oath but 0 affinity

oath isnt 9% base. it's 3% plus the 6%

[kindred arrow]

Brother please stop not claiming your freebies

[whole crypt]

in case you were thinking "free shit devs give us can't be good" there's plenty of good free shit along the whole progression of the game

[tranquil rock]

as vanguard tank?

[warm trail]

nah, mostly because im too lazy to farm

[elfin hollow]

Finally swapped Norfolk with Portland.

All that's left to replace was Cesare, Juneau and Long Island.

[raven canyon]

is seattle good?

[elfin hollow]

I'll get Pennsylvania when the Guild shop gets a reset tomorrow

[whole crypt]

but you don't even need to farm to get the first copy of the shop UR

[kindred arrow]

Even if she was Mog-tier (before fix) atrocious not getting a free UR is a waste

[wind hazel]

did you even check the buff on the pic lol

and affinity is not morale

[left cedar]

ops, i did write wrong this part

[kindred arrow]

Did you reset the shop with coins already? If not you can get her now

[frank pulsar]

usually laffii
if boss is the type to spray low dmg pellets their bulk shld be similar

[warm trail]

got lazy to even log in

[raven canyon]

dang

[tame jungle]

then don't complain you don't get the free shit

[elfin hollow]

Aight time to Remap my fleet XD

[warm trail]

did i complain though?

[tranquil rock]

z52 is better at overall damage yes?

[whole crypt]

is it 3% or 9% on the actual stats though, I wouldn't be surprised if the affinity screen is wrong

[wind hazel]

gotta ask pin lol, his ship not mine XD

but i really doubt the buff there isn't reflecting the actual stats

[whole crypt]

I'm not about to try burning 101 affinity on my oaths to test

I'm not tryhard enough to keep grinding with 0 morale

[wind hazel]

im not burning my oil to test it out either

[whole crypt]

the best time to test is probably on some inconsequential fresh oaths

[left cedar]

i did remember the test ... quite sure the stats keep as the initial Oath

u just dont get the extra 3% of 200 aff

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't be surprised if affinity screen bonus display only checked current affinity value instead of actual affinity status

[left cedar]

i do have FC close to 100Aff cuz she its already 125 when i oath, and i dint beggin to grind hardly enough to get more than 120aff iirc

[whole crypt]

more importantly the stat difference isn't consequential in the long run anyway

[left cedar]

109rn ... in event i will do that ... in the name of science

[frank pulsar]

yes

[left cedar]

shit, it will take more time than usual to grind 200 aff, wut a waste of oil this will be

[wind hazel]

💀 can just ping pin later

[whole crypt]

I'll do it for CNY if one of the new DE ships is an oath for me

(the chances of which are rather slim)

[wind hazel]

@little venture do you still have this ship? if so can we see her stats? would like to check whether the affinity bonus screen is bugged or not

[kindred arrow]

Good cat start?

[left cedar]

AVI + RLD and ACE it will other talents

[little venture]

Whaa?

[eternal basalt]

Sadly 2 points on RLD skill

[wind hazel]

gph question fr

[tame jungle]

refers to this

[whole crypt]

better than getting a 1/1/1

there's still slots for staff and ace

[kindred arrow]

Staff meaning Chief of staff?

[little venture]

I mean I still have her but her affinity is 100 and she’s not maxed out or anything

[left cedar]

RLD > AVI only stat for cats

[wind hazel]

ah then it's fine don't need it then, thanks and sorry for ping

[little venture]

[left cedar]

so my FC need to suffer a bit
sad

[wind hazel]

unless?
unless you have other ship you oath out of hate below 100 affinity

[left cedar]

naah, FC is the lattestone, i did with Rumy, but Rumy isnt maxed and i'm lvling her when i did

[whole crypt]

oathing out of hate

[left cedar]

rn Rumy is 200aff, and FC is 109aff cuz she is already 125

[little venture]

I never oathed Belorussia

[wind hazel]

fuck me LMFAO

[whole crypt]

[wind hazel]

i was looking at wrong pic all along it wasnt even oathed

[tame jungle]

LOOOL

[wind hazel]

HEY you guys never point it out either

[kindred arrow]

Followup question then, why do I want staff on a CV cat? I thought it was for the BB cats only?

[little venture]

I do have this though

[tame jungle]

yeah i can't say anything here i also assumed that was oathed

[left cedar]

i'm ENED with u, cuz i dint notice isnt Oathed

[wind hazel]

i'll do it during event

[eternal basalt]

Ancho? YOU MONSTER

[tame jungle]

nice name

[late flame]

for a moment i tot this was al-gen

[whole crypt]

to be fair I've never had an oathed ship go below 100 so I didn't know if the display will fuck up and tell you not oathed if below 100

[left cedar]

u sure, i can do it no problem, i just like to complain

[wind hazel]

yeah 101 should be quick, just gonna run her with my 4 ranger

[eternal basalt]

Should keep 9%

[stiff bison]

any good napoli comps fleets?

[left cedar]

when u know the results ping me please, i wanna see iirc

[whole crypt]

that's what we were saying to start with

[kindred arrow]

You put Nap on places you want a hard tank, composition will depend on content as always

[whole crypt]

you mean a comp for grinding Napoli XP or a comp for using Napoli

[little venture]

Keep in mind that you have to drop them to Zero Morake abs then keep sending them on sorties. It’s a bit of a pain. I recommend taking them to high level areas and letting them sink to drop morale quickly

Anyway back to sleep

[wind hazel]

yeah no worries, endless grinding for Breast

[stiff bison]

is that it? any synergy?

[whole crypt]

raids are great for losing morale, do it next next week

[eternal basalt]

Raid... easy sinking + fast... still a pain

[wind hazel]

need to grind point for milestone anyway

[late flame]

15runs hard mode daily when

[whole crypt]

I have a lv70 oathed Nagato that I can sink fairly easily for science

[eternal basalt]

[left cedar]

pretty sure raid cant sink a 125 FC

[whole crypt]

would probably be easier with the lv1s but I don't want to get XP on them

[plain saffron]

125 Full Combo?

[stiff bison]

should i swap for napoli?

[whole crypt]

FredCarl

[wind hazel]

sure, twin90 has better range

[whole crypt]

twin 90 is just a better bofors

[left cedar]

depending on where and wut fleet, 134 >> both

[kindred arrow]

She has smokescreens (like Anchorage) to help keep your vanguard alive and she has a special smokescreen for herself to smooth out her damage curve but that's it really, she's a very straightfoward ship

[sweet merlin]

Who should I replace?

[whole crypt]

more importantly she's just a hard tank, there's no special synergy for anything

[boreal wagon]

you don't need to test if u trust my ⛏️, their affinity tier is explicitly set to oath if it would otherwise be less
and both ui and battle use the same source of truth

[wind hazel]

i trust you

in the end i EN hard

[plain saffron]

what is the question

[left cedar]

so i did remeber correctly ?
so i'm not that much senil as i though for a second

[wind hazel]

i thought going below 100 affinity on oath would reduce the 9% buff

[plain saffron]

is it can bonus go below 9%? itested, the answer is nope

[whole crypt]

mori was saying ships lose 9% bonus with oath if they go below 100 aff, with a wrong screenshot

[wind hazel]

pin's fault

[left cedar]

yeah, me and my 30y old arent much senil enough to forgot something like that

[wind hazel]

do you have avp or eldridge

[plain saffron]

#gameplay-help message

here proof real no cap 2025 working

[sweet merlin]

Yup

I think my eldrige shows up in my ss

[left cedar]

damm, i has right, even the ship i did remeber right
damm wut a gud sensation

[plain saffron]

also tested 0 affinity but i can't find the screenshot

actually wait my uni might be 0 affi rn

[jaunty glade]

Yorktown 2 or Fritz - which is better? I have Amagi CV and Shinano currently in my CV fleet

[wind hazel]

yeah im blind,
put amagi shinano together, plus a flex, and eldridge, ARA, Sirius

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt matter what affinity they have if its less than oath it just uses oath

[sweet merlin]

Who is ara?

[wind hazel]

any ship with air raid assistance, best if Kazagumo for 3rd IJN ship

or Ariake Yuugure

[plain saffron]

yes the coding said that but some people just refuse to believe until they see proof

[frank pulsar]

depends, but usually youd use a stop support like implacable or august

[left cedar]

both are kinda niched
Rumy is better along W13 and W15, and Med focused, can work for light
Y2 work exceptionally to Light with Kea, and can work in capaign, but less effectivle than Rumy in W13 and W15

more like, take ur poison

[plain saffron]

and i want to flex my 0 affi unicorn

[boreal wagon]

fair enough ig

[frank pulsar]

you monster

[patent pivot]

based naga

[left cedar]

based Naga, Science thanks u for this proof

[barren tapir]

this makes me genuinely upset to see

[left cedar]

Is prinz eugene good? Should i use her?

[shell willow]

[wind hazel]

most of the time no

[left cedar]

Alright

[plain saffron]

try relogin

[dense briar]

Guys how do i registee ships?

[tame jungle]

restart game first?

[rapid grail]

generally speaking, when this appears on ur screen, always restart. solves disconnection problems between serve and client

[dense briar]

I restarted and this happened

[spring topaz]

Where does the new pity UR exchange slot in the priority list?

[left cedar]

good here can be debatable, but she have a lil and contest space to be used, and generally she isnt, cuz she dint offer much aside her tank, and her tank is smaller than the best tanks by a considerable margins

[plain saffron]

i think you need to repair assets then #tech-support

[wind hazel]

bottom, with shimakaze

[spring topaz]

Whose more deserving of MLB treatment:

Z52, fritz rumey, new jersey or Yorktown II

[dense briar]

Its working now thank you

Would i get this ship after development?

[wind hazel]

depends on who else you have

[wind hazel]

yes but it won't be anything useful since she will be at dev1 out of 30, and without another 5 level on fate simulation

[desert trellis]

is it the only way to can get the vit-2 torp bombers through research? how long wd it take to get 1 on avg

[dense briar]

Can u use easier terms please, im a total newb at this and i feel like ur speaking latin rn lad. Sorry about that

[boreal wagon]

mori is essentially saying research ships take a long ass time to actually be usable

[wind hazel]

basically when you unlocked her, she will be 3 out of 6 stars. just like any other ship you get in the beginning

[elfin hollow]

wait until shes level 30 in terms of development ( using blueprints) until they can be useful

[dull zealot]

Ey, need to know if Fritz is good on W15 for support carrier position since she got 4 planes each slot

oh, ender isn't here sadge

[dense briar]

So if im getting it correctly, shes like on her base form? And it takes some time for her to get to the point where she's at her strongest?

If so, how long does her development take?

[left cedar]

its 8 fighters, she is a absulute monster in boss fleet or supp fleet, yes

[dull zealot]

Glad to know it then

[twilit berry]

Any build for Amagi?

[wind hazel]

you need 343 blueprints to reach lv30, so if you do it at 10 per day it would take longer than a month, and that's without her fate simulation, henceforth FS

[spring topaz]

You unlock her at 3 star, which is unusable, then you have to keep collecting blueprints through research (and in this case coins also) to eventually get her "Dev level 30" aka MLB

[wind hazel]

FS is another 165 so another 16-17days if 10 per day as well

[dense briar]

Goddamn

[wind hazel]

tl;dr is,

you can skip her LOL, focus on another ship that's worth the investment, like FDG from PR2

[ivory pawn]

No harm in working on getting the exp for her development if she’s the only ship you can build atm.

[dense briar]

So basically its like investing in some niche crypto huh?

[ivory pawn]

I just wouldn’t put any resources into her, such as the retrofit prints, cubes, or coins, until you’re ready to finish her.

[spring topaz]

it's a time gated mechanic, so spend your time unlocking the most valuable ships first

[dense briar]

Yes shes the only one available rn coz i don't have enough for roon yet

[patent raft]

I don get it why does enterprises hate lemon tho?

[twilit berry]

Because she ate it?

[dense briar]

I see, putting it into unicorn/Portland is a much better investment yes?

[spring topaz]

yes, but also different systems that aren't nessicarily competing with each other (except gold)

[fast steppe]

should I mlb Guam or look to mlb someone more recent

[dense briar]

Noted on this

[dense briar]

Realistically, how long can i keep helena on my fleet as my main Vanguard DPS. I don't have much SRs on this account just Charybdis and Belfast.

Does those two SRs outclass her somewhere down the line?

[spring topaz]

forever, no

[obsidian ivy]

Belfast and chary arent good so no

[dense briar]

I see, how about when compared to tashkent and jeanne darc

[spring topaz]

still not as good, but those are both usable

[fast steppe]

ik common knowledge is to just mlb but Guam's mlb just looks like added main gun efficiency, and besides I'm just using her as a tank/support

[obsidian ivy]

You'll still use Helena in the endgame anyway so no loss investing in her

[ivory pawn]

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure the experts would agree you should finish MLBing Guam when you have the bulins.

[ivory pawn]

Maybe an argument can be made for Alsace or York2 first, if you have the bulins already.

[dense briar]

Thats good to know honestly. Just wanted to confirm whether shes just gonna be an early game star. Coz i do want to keep her until end game. Can't wait to Retrofit her honestly

[obsidian ivy]

Finish Guam up, don't spread around

[wind hazel]

i'd wait for yk2 first

[turbid marsh]

im biased towards godly z52

[sharp socket]

what is algerie meta gimmick

endscreen number padding?

[frank pulsar]

need aoe

using zwei is easy one shot

[sharp socket]

no zwei

i just live with 2shot then

[frank pulsar]

try triple cv then
haku + amagi + sara i guess?

[sharp socket]

interesting comp but alr

DB heaven?

[frank pulsar]

use db where possible, parallel torp > converging torp

[keen sable]

Never. There will never be a replacement for helena because she already is the craziest buffer around. Any better buffer would be absolutely broken

[barren tapir]

is algerie meta the one where sara becomes on par with UR cvs

[sharp socket]

i have my doubts that this is good

then again i dont have 4 wyverns and 4 tenrais

[spring topaz]

If Abyssal Refrain is going to War Archive does that mean Kronshtadt will be farmable?

[eternal basalt]

Farmable as build 400 ships

[barren tapir]

farmable as much as cubes are technically 'farmable'

[eternal basalt]

Bad luck with CNY, and you will "farm" Kronk

[undone plover]

U should also double down on vanguard dps
I dont think agir is needed

[undone plover]

That was kirov
Not sure about algerie but sara should still be good there

[sharp socket]

but my vg dies

sandy procced manjuu in there

[wet badge]

Should i get spearfish or wyverb

Or should i even get parallels

[wind hazel]

wyverns

[spring topaz]

so close, yet, so far away

[wet badge]

What are the total materials i need

[spring topaz]

If I am to farm all 50 blueprints from research before spending, what do I then buyfirst with my prototype cores? a second one?

[wind hazel]

at the very least

[wind hazel]

oh that's missing the requirement for that plane too

[ivory pawn]

Going to need the materials to at least craft the precursor plane too, that’s another 21 electronics (and other stuff).

[wind hazel]

need this too i guess

[wet badge]

Oh no

And the one before 😭

[ivory pawn]

At least the plane before that is technically purchaseable with 800 core data. Or you can add another ~20 electronics.

[undone plover]

U need another one as well

U can screenshot it in game with total mats needed iirc
Let me check

[wind hazel]

this is the part where you can spend core data for that plane, or craft it with more electronics

[wet badge]

I can????

[wind hazel]

yeah but imo if it's your first few wyverns, you won't be using core data, you're probably still saving for shells

[gilded carbon]

Is Duisburg reasonably good? Or collection and Tech?

[wet badge]

Alr got 3 pairs

Should i wait for vanny archive and save for a bunch of tables

[wind hazel]

that's uh... pretty long way to go

and we dont know whether it will be in core or some other place either

[wet badge]

Do event aux get a different obtainment besides core

[boreal wagon]

we dont exactly know for certain but usually they (only) go to core yes

[undone plover]

If u like having shiny things make them when u want to

If u like min/maxing and saving mats for future updates save them and craft what u need

If u are a newer player crafting some wyverns is recommended
At least 2 I would say

[spring topaz]

where do you get the blueprint looking things?

[wet badge]

Alr

[wind hazel]

opsi

[ivory pawn]

Still from Opsi. You can buy a bunch from the Port shops, as well as cat node rng.

[wet badge]

Do sweats even use slows for an end game comp

[barren tapir]

can only buy 1 per month max assuming it even shows up, and you easily make more core data than that. saving is pointless

[wet badge]

True

Aight then

[undone plover]

Most of the time yes
Slow/freeze is still crucial especially in CV comps

[barren tapir]

i really hope table doesnt go the way of shimatorps, imagine starting late and having permanently nerfed bbs

[wet badge]

Then why do people use parallel over converging

[barren tapir]

campaign/mobbing

[undone plover]

Tbh shima just archived in an awkward time where there wasnt any gear lab window after

[wet badge]

Not bossing???

[undone plover]

That is for mobbing and for campaign
For single target bossing converging is the best

[barren tapir]

if i dont see shimatorps show up in gear lab update ill consider table unobtainium

[boreal wagon]

considering njs gun got added id say they just forgot shima torps even exist

table shouldnt really have the same problem

[wet badge]

Can they still be used the same way ur ships can do both mob and boss

[undone plover]

When do core shop updates happen?
Is it random?

[wind hazel]

dev found out we love quad mag more than shiny torpedo

[undone plover]

Elaborate what u mean

[wet badge]

I was referring to wyvern if it can be used for both mobbing and bossing

[undone plover]

If shima torp goes in lab it makes sense it wasnt added yet

[undone plover]

bossing in campaign sure
Anywhere else

[wet badge]

Is spearfish more suited for bosses

[undone plover]

Kind of
Still worse than gold converging

[atomic abyss]

No

Spearfish is essentially a more expensive, higher dps wyvern with no intercept

[wet badge]

How much ap do i need to opsi overnight

[wet badge]

Isnt that the opposite

[tame jungle]

no

[atomic abyss]

They're both parallel TBs

Why would you use either on bosses outside campaign

[near cargo]

Any fleet recommend to clear W13? There's just too many planes there

[undone plover]

If u mean for strategic search then initial clear of all maps needs sth like 4000 AP iirc

But dont opsi overnight
It has a chance to crash
Chance to get stuck in some b.s loop
And u want to stop for akashi

Just do it on your pc in the background

[atomic abyss]

Triple CV for mob, 2 CV 1 BB for boss
1 AA carry on each fleet ideally

[near cargo]

1 AA?

[atomic abyss]

You only need 1 ship in each fleet that's actually strong at AA

[near cargo]

Example?

[atomic abyss]

So usually, San Diego retrofit

[undone plover]

For example san diego
Cheshire
Z52
Laffey ii
Guam

[atomic abyss]

Since z52 event just ended
Z52 on mob and Sandy retro on boss is one way of doing it

[dense briar]

Helena GOAT

[undone plover]

If u are not sure filter your vanguards and post em

[wet badge]

O

[fast steppe]

is skypirate still worth crafting when there's so much other stuff that needs electronics

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely not

[near cargo]

What is currently best Fighter?

[atomic abyss]

You have breguets in core shop and the white vit-2 from PR5 if you upgrade from barracudas

[atomic abyss]

For anti air, the flapjack in gearlab

[fast steppe]

do vit-2s outclass skypirates

[near cargo]

I currently use Yorky II, Enty, and Perseus + Sandy, Belfast for W13 mob

[atomic abyss]

Why Percy not Uni?

[bright tusk]

How good nimi with felix gun compared to standard shelling dd gun

[near cargo]

She's on other fleet

[atomic abyss]

You don't need healer on boss

Move her to mob and use a DPS carrier there

[wet badge]

Can i afk overnight w mission logger thing on opsi

[near cargo]

I use Uni and Perseus for 2 mob fleets, in turns

Other one has Amagi and Panserval

[eternal basalt]

Though beware they can get stuck on stuff

[rigid onyx]

why are you cycling two mob fleets to clear a chapter

[fast steppe]

is this scrappable if i'm not gonna build skypirates anymore

or is the asw variant useful for w14

[rigid onyx]

it can be if you don't have the asw plane from Guam event

[eternal basalt]

Just use Hedgehog

[rigid onyx]

usually you stack a hedgehog on a dd and an asw plane on uni

[wet badge]

How

[wind hazel]

you can also skip using that if you wanna craft skypirate for some reason

[fast steppe]

is this any worth using

[near cargo]

I like to use this if I want to spam BB skill or special barrage

[eternal basalt]

200 META, stuck on end of bring cube to x, stuck on a platform.. . Prob more

[rigid onyx]

it's ok as a barrage spam gun but in general it's just better to use better guns

it may or may not be good considering your current gear

[rigid onyx]

I mean it's not nearly bad enough to scrap probably

[bold salmon]

what is better 3rd tenrai or 3rd la-9?

[rigid onyx]

tenrai probably being added to gear lab soon so focusing research on la-9 seems more prudant

[turbid marsh]

of course la-9

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[near cargo]

Is W14-15 is full of planes too?

[rigid onyx]

14 no, 15 yes

[near cargo]

How is it compared to W13?

[novel solstice]

15 has more planes than 13. Bring your best AA, get crushed by planes anyway.

[rigid onyx]

I mean for difficulty both are uniquely more difficult than the previous chapter

[fast steppe]

in this fleet for taimet would you rather bring guam or kazagumo (yes ik it's cursed yes this is my best dmg backline)

[spring topaz]

I'm starting to run out of higher tier ships to level up and subsequently not able to full clear World 13-1 to push the campaign. Should I prioritize Main Fleet or Vanguard as my carry?

[wind hazel]

open a thread and post your dock

[spring topaz]

me?

[wind hazel]

yes

[tame jungle]

can i do it too

[wind hazel]

yes (no)

[tame jungle]

wtf!

[wind hazel]

i dont help white names :dorohate:

[tame jungle]

i'll just throw shit at 14 and see what sticks then 😔

[spring topaz]

I'm sure I could just put max level ships in and clear it, but I'mt rying to be greedy and level up other ships while pushing .... are you wanting to see my options to sub in one carry (or 2?) carries + 4 low levels?

[tame jungle]

just use your strongest ships when pushing -_-

[wind hazel]

ok rule number 1, you don't raise shitters when you're pushing campaign

[turbid marsh]

W15 = subs like w14 and maybe 3x planes as w13

[south sequoia]

Just clear campaign normally then grind afterwards
Much less of a headache

You aren't gonna be grinding exp when they die

Or if they get brought to a really low amount of hp, and it's not like you are at the mercy of oil cap either so you aren't saving much oil

You spend the same amount but more time wasted

[spring topaz]

Fastest possible clear speeds for W13

[thick plume]

Hey guys does DMG reduction stack?

And does it simply add up or does it apply 1 after the other (eg two dmg red of 10% give total 20% or 19%?)

[near cargo]

Is Shinden fighter at end of Sakura lab tree good?

[raven canyon]

guys what aux equipment should i prioritize for my lc

[wind hazel]

lc or cl?
if cl then toolkit+rudder most of the time

[raven canyon]

CL and thanks

[barren tapir]

damage reduction from specific type of damage (ie, torp, HE, AP, etc) is additive with itself and multiplicative with generic (ie, reduces all sources) damage reduction. different sources of generic damage reduction are also multiplicative

tangentially related, enemy buffs increasing specific type of damage (ie, torp dmg dealt NOT torp stat%, HE dmg, AP dmg etc) is additive with damage reduction from that specific type of damage

some examples

torp reduction 20% and torp reduction 30% = -50% from torps

torp reduction 30% and dmg reduction 15% = -40.5% from torps and -15% from other

torp dmg increase 20%, torp reduction 30%, dmg reduction 15% = -23.5% from torp and -15% from other

[slender turtle]

What deity did yall pray to when you got kazagumo, im losing it not having her😂

[raven canyon]

should i try and fully limit break CV amagi at the moment?

[barren tapir]

wait for wishing well or hope to light build her in daily ig?

she's great but there's other ARAs you can use in the meantime

[atomic abyss]

Do you have enough bulins to limit break her fully? If so I would consider it especially if you have shinano and haku

[slender turtle]

Yeah been light building 5 a day for like a month, been tough. Just leveling sirius as my avi buff atm

[barren tapir]

5 a day

[raven canyon]

well i have 3 bulins as of right now and no i dont have shinano, as for haku i am researching her but her exp requirement isnt exactly anywhere close to being finished

[slender turtle]

Ik really inefficient, it doesn’t hurt that bad tho

[barren tapir]

just wait for wishing well then your chance goes from 0.2% to 2%

[atomic abyss]

...at this point just get hamman 2 this event and use her for ara

[barren tapir]

also that

[atomic abyss]

Also counts for Yorktown 2 if you lack d30 kears

[stark quiver]

benson has ara

[barren tapir]

many ships have ara

[atomic abyss]

Then save