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well define stacked
stacked enough to clear ch15 and every endgame content
Something like that
it can clear ch15, one shot some META showdowns and clear every content in the game comfortably
depends how much said account tryhards, optimizes, and rushes too
i mean there's that <2 month ch15 clear so
if you're willing to manual you can punch way above your weight class if good at it, letting you do some things sooner (potentially much sooner) and letting you benefit from those things faster than an auto-only account, so there's that as well
Btw how good Adm. Hipper Meta can be? Seems not but but I still not maximize Eldredge and Agir yet.
Hipper meta? She’s ok, not good not bad
shes decent enough but nothing special
I keep mixing her up with duisberg
duisburg BAD 
CL fp good 
I'm interesting in her slow there's a chance to make it stable every 20 sec proc for BBs but 30% not impressive
BBs dont really need slows in the first place
It's carriers that need it, esp if they're using converging TBs
Duisburg have summon) sommons is a new meta) just kidding
My FdG so many time missing and enemy speed one of that reason
Whats the best thing to go for with core data
/coredata
basically farm the highest node you possibly can
BB definitely benefit from slow
it is just that it is was not so easily achieved before eldridge
although veterans can just use zwei or soyuz to help with that
Do I need to care about jamming when syncing BBs
kind of? it might prevent u from getting 4 salvos in meta fights for example
Leveling Eldredge now. Should be a good off tank and slow support
as long as u have her retrofit item
otherwise dont bother yet
Idk how but have
That was one of many unknown stuff in my stash until I found where it use
I started the game right after the Eldridge event
how many ships does 12-4 farming get to level 120 per month?
As many as you have chips for -- you can get XP faster than you get chips in.
OpSi best way to level ships but get first Unicorn retro before
doubt
I did it for few ships. Best way maximizing their hp, get nice healer over 115 lvl like unicorn and their level not below 70
opsi is decent free xp sure
just not the main way to level ships
Cheapest
free: yes
best: no
amagi: chan
Sure but if no tons of oil
or just do all level 70 and farm a certain zone
Oil
I even begin creating an army of two\team of two to save some oils on event
My team of 21 oil for farm maps
Since abyssal refrain added to war archive, will kronk gun be added to perma too?
and I have feeling it's can be even lower with some good rare ships with 3 stars
maybe with gear lab update the week after
NJ gun was added like 6 month after her perma
and shima torp iirc has still not been added
Shima torps lost to the wind
That that is shit, doesn't benefit any one 
it can def be cheaper
next event u can come back and ask what other ppl are using
most ppl use 0 limit break mahan (cassin/downes) + 0 lb ranger to farm b1-3 of events
Shima torps hasn't been added 
Havent updated Op Si fleets in like a year, is there such thing as like a "best comp" for the fleets or does everyone run their favorite URs?
not yet
prob will be added later or somethin, same thing happened with NJ Gun
there hasnt been a gear lab update since she was archived
maybe that is why
Was looking to build ships since I have a ton of UR books to craft gears
Why don't they added it right away, it doesn't make sense
Imagine if an event is happening but the event shop starts 6 months after the event ends 
OpSi is easy enough that u can be flexible
the standard end game opsi comp is triple CV for fast mob fights
CV fleet
BB fleet
crossfleet
What’s the usual lineup for fast clear ops mob
Got it, guess I dont need to change anything then. Was just wondering if there was a ship released that somehow made it a lot faster or something.
u can read from here for carrier choices
idk about vanguard but I assume unzen + 2 dps ships
or tank + unzen + dps
#gameplay-help message
A bunch of ships I don’t have 
she booted Haku out of the Haku/Shin/Implac comp
u can post your current lineup if u are unsure
do you even have amagi-chan
I should have basically everyone that matters in this game. I dont have trouble clearing op si every month, I just know its suboptimal since its mostly a mishmash (mostly with teams 3 and 4). And since Ive never really used the more recent URs im pretty sure im missing out
sure
I kept one, scrapped the rest
Is there anything special for formation? Or does it not matter?
If theres any known like "op si" comps i'd probably just copy them
Single line: More FP, less EVA
Double line: More EVA, less FP
Circular: More AA

What does that mean? Like FP and stuff?
FP = Firepower (IE Damage)
EVA = Evasion (How likely they are to dodge hits)
Ah okay thank you

Which are single, double and circular?
Single is the most natural since there’s no vg damage nerf
well a few things u could change:
1- your mob fleet vanguard is mainly tank, could use more dps ships, and u can also put brest there, she is a great mob tank
2- your last fleet is a rly weird mix
, if it is meant to be crossfleet then change agir
3- your amagi fleet needs a slow, either put eldridge there or change haku for implacable
4- vanguard fleet is also weird
, not sure what it is supposed to be
in general for opsi u want to avoid mixed fleets
triple BB/triple CV will be better most of the time
i suppose one exception is soyuz + nakhimov together
nah double line is the most used one, esp in more difficult content
single is the least used one
You know as much as I do about these fleets because I look at them and just know they're wrong 💀 I'll look into your advice
If you need the Eva that is
Literally just as it sounds
Single line
Double Line
And Circular
Figured I’d ask again, since we got a new event and I can pretty much exchange for all the Bulins I need now: which UR should I MLB, taking into account both PvE and PvP?
PvP is very different
I know
general comps u can follow
mob : UR BB, indep, unicorn, kron/brest, 2 of shimakaze/harbin/ddg/any dps
BB fleet: 3 of (bismarck zwei, soyuz, alsace, vanguard, musashi), Agir/eldridge, helena/z52, plymouth
CV fleet: implacable/hakuryuu, amagi, shinano, guam/(eldridge if not using implacable), kazagumo, unzen
last fleet: put whatever u want here
there are many more options u can try but the idea is to stack BB/CV together and put vanguard that buffs them
PvP is barely a consideration unless you want to tryhard
Amagi CV > Yorktown 2 (if you get her) > Vanguard > Z52 > Unzen > Mogador > Kronshtadt
This is actually perfect, thanks! But why is there a need for specifically a BB fleet and a CV fleet?
More flexibility
Sometimes bosses have avi nerf sometimes they have fp nerf
Is it just to account for the monthly boss maybe being weak to one of those focus builds?
syncing
Got it.
Ahhh, got it got it
in campaign u want to mix BB and CV cause they complement each other
BB defend against sucide boats and have concentrated dps for elite and boss enemies
CV do dmg/support and great AA
in OpSi these concerns are not the same
u want to concentrate hulls together cuz they are easier to sync to each other and u can stack buffs better
for example kazagumo gives CV 15% dmg buff
so if u run 3 carriers they all get this buff
if u only run 2, only 2 ships are getting this buff
another example:
champy gun + radar will fire a salvo around 17.5 seconds
it will be very hard if not impossible to sync carriers to this
BB also tend to have higher RLD than carriers so even more annoying to sync them, and u want to sync stuff together cuz of timed buffs/debuffs and slows
in addition to what alpha said about the bosses having different buffs and debuffs vs certain hulls

how do i put first gen ship skins onto their 2nd gen versions? like laffey skins on laffey 2 or bismark skins on bismark 2
they need 100 affinity
so laffey 2 needs 100 affinity to wear laffey 1 skin and vice versa
I can expand the dock only with gems?
yes
get gems from clearing stages, memento, annual anniversary, lunar new year
one thing to note is only zwei (ii) / muse versions can share skins
(laffey/hornet/bismarck/yorktown/akagi/formidable as examples)
it would not work for totally different hull type* such as amagi (cv) vs amagi (bc) or kaga (cv) / kaga (bb)
Join guild.
join a guild and spend all of your free gems on dock space
and that is why skins are really for whales only
though if you grind on any semblance of a regular basis, 3rd slot of dorm and 2nd floor of dorm will be worth the gems
damn 
imagine my expression when I finally found where to use it and that Elbridge can be a really good ship
circular ingame is shown as a + formation 
it means u started like a month before me 
also for formations, single and double raise and lower TRP as well, respectively
im ngl i switched to circular for ch12 and never found a reason to switch to anything else
plym gun or 457 from core (bought tenrai alrdy)
i almost always use double 
I used circular maybe for W13 in my early days but that was it
id use circular for 13/15 if necessary for AA. i also use it for low cost mobfleet ch6 but that's my special sauce 
457 would be my preference though maybe hold some to get yourself a Daisen gun for Musashi
circular for W15 isn't ideal given the amount of vanguard pressure
wasn't sure with 15 yeaaa 
the only time i remembered about formation is when i accidentally touched it while trying to turn off fleet lock for some fights
yeah idk just personal experience from leveling lots of bad ships in ch12, circular was more helpful for them surviving than double
When is gear lab update
we don't know
and i dont think ive ever used single 

Daisen gun it's?
well tbh, formation really is just what works best for you 
anyway, just kill fast enough and you won't feel the planes even if AA is a bit spotty on your end
circular does that too since it doesnt lower fp 
single then 
it's usually the main fleet doing the heavy work
and I mostly level crappy vanguards these days
Z52 looks interesting
circular does also reduce ur dmg taken from planes, not just ur dmg to planes, so it can def help sometimes
(for my ch6 special sauce it's used for both purposes) 
and maybe I'm doing something wrong but some vang. did same damage as main
if you are leveling pirates (tempesta) that isnt sub i suppose circular helps lol
I never actually found leveling Tempesta ships particularly difficult in W12, pretty easy in fact
true, since i usually stick a maxxed unicorn in mob, and usually a preload bb (e.g. lv120 richy) in boss
I did not do that
w12 in safe can be very forgiving in fleet comp
I went with the usual all 12 ships need levels strat
didn't change anything just for them and they handled it fine is what I meant
W12 farming is actually a good spot to hone your fleet building skills and gear actually
i''m lazy to switch out the carry but i agree since w12 can be done fast and need not care about AA (unlike w13)
well yes and no, depends on what you're leveling really
If ship have same skill as Auxiliary does it work? I mean Crescent's Emergency Maneuvers (Every 20s, 15% (30%) chance to evade all incoming attacks for 6s) and Improved Hydraulic Rudder because it's look not bad if no conflict between them
They stack and they're still bad
she benefits a lot more if you put double hp auxes because of her lower hp
Ok, seems I found what I'm looking for. I want 0 limit break normal ship and this will be Ranger + Aulick for low oil farm
Should i buy 10 wisdom cubes for 150 gems?
Only if you're a whale and desperate for builds
what else should i use gems for?
See in #bot-spam /gems
+even as a person who bought it from time to time, its not worth
3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor
then after that it's all in on dock space
I bought the 3rd slot, how do i buy the 2nd floor?
fully expand the first floor
Ohh so not buy more slots on first floor?
you dont need to buy all 6 slots to unlock 2nd floor
in fact it gets prohibitively expensive for F2P to go past the 3rd slot
Ah okay tysm
and even so 4th-6th slots are not really needed unless you burn money on oil to climb rankings during events
or form multiple 1:1 maxxed fleets for team rotation during event
FdG > All of PR4 Except Marco > At least Plymouth and Brest from PR5 > Everyone else
sounds good, ty!
How do I get more of this UR coin
rip...
u can't
Oh…
unless you still have event points

the event ended like 3 days ago
Why am I the one being patted 
sextup>roomba on z52?
this gun any good?
depends on the fleet and enemy but roomba is safer in more situations
Where is the best gold per time stage?
12-4 
Fastest way to earn affinity?
grinding
Which map
your usual farming spot really
I don’t really farm unless it’s event…
It's basically a American and HE version of the Triple 460mm
you should farm 12-1 or 12-4 when there isn't an event going on
Why’s that
Exp and gold farm
best overall spot to farm
good for coins and XP, is really is to do and it drops cog chips
You can't gacha ship if you don't have coins...
Unless you just whel gold with gems for some reason
how many days do I have left
uhh what
for the commission event
it lasts for about 2 months and it hasn't even been a week so
ok cool
Spend oil ofc
could I get some help making 2 fleets? currently having a hard time doing so because I can't choose who I want on one or the other or on a whole other fleet xd. these are the ships I have (Ignore my Ur's LB's they're a mess)
is hindenburg main fleet or vanguard?
She's a CA so vanguard
If i don't get the crystals now will I never be able to mlb her again?
oh bruh i misread it
they will be added to META shop in like a week-ish
oh ok so i can buy with crystal fragments?
i c ty
yeah
sure, so for what content exactly
Yall is emden good as a CL?
mostly campaign and OpSi
she's okay
For mob fleet*
what stage of the main campaign
Im currently at 12-1
so uhh what are you using currently then
Is it ok to have 3 ac fleet
Shinano unicorn retro and amagi cv
depends on the content
should I be getting these to save on bulins?
also is there an oil efficient way to do it 
this was the only fleet I was using with UvH in the 2nd fleet for the support barrage bc it could clear everything even with no ammo but I realized that its not gonna work out eventually
i'd rather wait for her to pop up in merit shop tbh
no I got her from merit back in the day I believe
but I am struggling with gold bulins raising all these tech ships
so was wondering if this was worth 
hello i have enough points to redeem but should i do it now or do these rotate?
as a person who farmed WA for kms ships, heels and thamuse body - no lol
just exchange it for something you need / do not have
they dont rotate
but slowly more UR will be added
for example on 9th this month kron will be added
so if u have them all and dont have her yet u can wait for that
shinano is the best choice usually
guess ill wait as i have these
thank you for info
yeah so with the intention of pushing through W13 and OpSi in mind fleets should look something like
Mob: Owari, Volga, Unicorn, Blucher, Kazagumo, and Suzutuki
Boss: Musashi, Enterprise, Shinano, Anchorage, Helena, San Diego
that should get you through W12 easily and get you a good base for the start of OpSi
+long term you can just level whoever you like in 12-1 / 12-4
honestley I would rather just grind it low cost as you'll "only" expend 7800 oil if you use a 20 oil fleet to do it
and your sanity
uhh what
60/60 whee
it's not that difficult or tedious even
yeah I was thinking I might do that
cause I might even get dupes going for the guarentee
D3 might be doable with 12 oil 
Cheeky do you got any set ups for amagi nano implac vs taihou meta I can copy
will try it after HVAR grind
its "only" 5-6 hours ish of sortieing 
yes I do
lemme see 
alright thank you, I was worryin about putting agir in one the fleets since I js got her and heard shes good along with all the new KMS ships because I js returned before it ended and got them all
she is but you'll have to wait until they're all dev 30/MLB
along with tryna make mono teams
Don't make faction fleets
whatever bonuses that faction grants, is not worth over bringing bad ships
so for this set up CV and CA reload are set to 0
unless its all UR then its probably fine though not optimal 
sure you can do it out of boredom after you have most good ships fully levelled
double z52 tech 
fr i should start stashing coredata for rainbow torps
these were the two I made but I kept on debating if I should replace this ship or that ship stuff like that and then just gave up n came here
would 4th wyvern or 2nd UR AA be better, or try w15 and then see what happens first
I was gonna level agir up before using her tho
well I don't think either is massively gonna affect the set up on its own
wasn't CA RLD 0 only for oathed Unzen to be in moggy window, shouldn't need to 0 it otherwise
since i took out haku for amagi and double TB for her is better, i now lack a 5th TB to use
well I'm trying to sync Unzen's torps to Z52's debuff window
so i could get another wyvern or another baguette
wait for gear lab update first imo
you could just use a Breguette and a Wyvern on Amagi
then mob will have to sacrifice a wyvern, guess itd be fine
Unicorn could also just use a Breguette
desync be damned alr
ill go get another breguet then
would skyraider be better than tenrai anywhere in w15 btw
alr
how many hours of farming a day d3 do i need to spend 80k oil, while low costing
probably knock that out in like 3 ~ 4 days
could be less, but that depends on how sweaty you wanna be
u can burn ~2k in 1 hour with HELP and low cost (20 oil fleet) so 5-6 hour per day burns 80k in 7 days
The equipment that offer extra bonuses (looking at "Action Report - Frostfall" right now, which has +3 luck to SN faction ships, but this could also be applied to Z flag) - those aren't seen in the status screen, but they are reflected in battle?
about 450 runs give or take, depends on how low actual cost is
80k needs 266 runs at low cost to burn
so u are fine
auxes with skills are only applied inside the run
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/
can use this site to help get accurate times
rerun right when school starts is crazy 💀
just farm as much as u can 
~~if each 3x is 15m, i can just set multiple alarms midnight 🧠 ~~
just grind for 12+ hrs on the week end 
clean up your dock from dupes and bulins (use them)
set your low cost fleets and set their gear presets
u can automate this pretty well
only need to tap 2* times per hour 
me just burning Bulins
i have like 50~ purp 
that's a lot of medals
I could unironically burn that quite quickly and still be crying for more...
with 250k coins, i might as well just bulin a shit ton of ships
yes you should
sitting on free tech la
I would prefer to have 50-60 dock space so that u can do 6 HELP sorties uninterrupted
so maybe start using them if u dont have a lot of space 
start with purple and focus the good tech ships
I’ll have like 200~ free dock
Also doesn’t help that I have 4+ dupes of a ship, problem is I have no xp books
understand you only need 9 SR Bulins per event, and the Medal Shop has 10, so you go positive either way between what your grind, and gain from weeklies 
not when u are catching up 
I need 50+ gold bulins
oh, right it's "elite" 
And yall estimated the oil per hvar with bug to be around 10k:1 ?
Depends how far in the game you are?
10k with 150 oil fleet
16k with full oil
without bug 3x cost
all of this is guessing of course
That’s cool ima just grind out 3 hvars, get 1 from the shop snd milestone (hopefully) and use the rest of the oil for tech grinding
How much do you need to grind is what I'm asking.
like a ton since I have 0 hvar 
Honestly yea, if bug stays, I could prolly do that
I heard ranger downes maxxed can be used for D3 but like they are slow
Don’t worry, I have strats,
Do you even need like more than 4 HVAR
You need 0
preferably, yes
there have been 5 HVAR fleets in the past I think 
6 is possible in theory
"Let's join me on vacation while everyone's grinding HVARs"
said by someone who has 6 hvars
So it'll just be 1 more farm for me since I have 2 already, 23/25 prints, and 1 in shop 
makes some good points
u should always be careful with +13 rainbow gear
if u know what u are doing and what u want to achieve then it is fine 
3rd tenrai vs first 3 hvar +13?
skyraider is also extremely slow
might not be optimal to have 2 in a fleet if timing is an issue
Mfw I need 5 +13 wyverns
just to lose to a laffii
I dont like +13 tenrai personally
maybe if u have a lot of spare plates sure but it is low on the +13 prio list
hope its still bugged, 1 week to farm isnt much time otherwise
best heavy db something something
But it wouldn’t rly be needed +13 ngl, unless you’re trying to do some goofy stuff
I don't have enough battery to devote to OpSi farming
smh not using emulator
I only have like 200 plane plates atm, very scarce, I have to make choices between hvars or skyraider
it is best db vs heavy sure
but relative to TB it is not doing much dmg
even less when TB are buffed by amagi
for reference, this is expected tenrai vs heavy dmg
ignore the bearcat 
as a newer player myself i feel the lack of plates also me: skyraider+tenraix2 +13
Just use the schools electricity to farm 🧠
dang karpov is 9360
depends on map gimmicks, might not clear/reliably
interesting that karpov to saiun is more damage decrease than putting a single beacon
more importantly you're looking at the specific timing so 
also wtf is that bearcat damage
tiny tims
I thought bearcat bad
doesn't really matter in practice since no meta carrier can use it
it's the seaplane variant added for Halford
these days u mostly do 3 strike and 3 strike is doable with all 4 TB
so unless specific fight gimmicks and timing u will run VIT-2 when u can help it
I guess there are 4 strike saiun comps but usually they are not as reliable cuz more strikes means u can get revealed easier
do you raise all your ships?
Eventually
the calc assumes 800 AVI which Halford cannot achieve
that is why I said ignore it 
the plane is good but no good carrier can use it
when do i start doing this eventually
it's something you can certainly choose to do
after reaching w12 on campaign
reach ch12 > start working on opsi fleets and ships > start raising tech ships and chapter 13+ specific ships
nice
oh 800 avi
thanks, ch12 on normal
that's just the TB damage though, if you add in any other barrage or ordnance the CV has then the AVI difference slightly offsets it
assuming it's a timing thing and you need to swap for bacon
yeah usually I just put all black vits and sync from that
if no timing required specifically then VIT... but then you could also need to use VIT on some carriers and not others for proper sync up
I mean we already knew VIT has highest damage and Saiun is a slight margin behind Ryuusei/Junkers, at the end of the day it's all timing
Saiun is about roughly like over 10% of a Mod VIT nothing too crazy
funny enough La9 is not that far behind tenrai vs heavy on small targets
How do i stop the small flying ships that get past?
They just kill the ships behind all the time
those are planes and get better AA
Do we know when pr6 catchup will be added
chapter 3 moment
Whats AA
no but should be sometime latter this month
last year it was 30 Jan
~~ someone never seen a plane ~~
anti aircraft guns
So i have to upgrade my gear or?
this early on AA should not be an issue
most likely your fleet is not good and needs rework
or at least u need to limit break + enhance them
you do run into a bump around ch3 if you have absolute shit AA guns and/or no good planes
Idk why but they basically just ignores the planes
whats ur equips like
to me it looks like you have two bad fleets
hello, how do you guys know what gear to put for newer units like Z52 ?
On which ships?
fast dd gun , usual torps, hp auxes
you are far too early for two fleets
prob all i think
okay thanks
I could check 2 sec
start a thread if you have more screenshots to post
stick to 1 fleet ya
That penn gun is terrible
r these ur best gear
sick thread
i dont rly know much abt gear
I just use whatever i get
several problems
Too early for a second fleet
Shit unupgraded gear
too early for a second fleet
ah okay
like you don’t even have one whole fleet
take yamashiro's gun and put it on penny, abandon the yamashiro's fleet
none of your shit is mlb
yep
what should i have ob my fleet 1?
and um dont use asw gear that's not that impt yet
not MLB is normal at ch5
this fleet is perfectly fine, invest in this fleet
the problem is 0 LB and shit gear
also is it good idea to craft augment for characters that dont have their own ? like craft the generic ones ? if so which one should i pick for z52 ?
it hink dual (hammer's for torps i belive)
Alright ty
yes, but very low priority
swords for z52 but not high priority if you don't have spare coins or augment mats
And how does gear work? I dont know which is good and i havent upgraded them alot
okay thx
welcome to basically the most complicated part of the game
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
thanks !
yea and open tech boxes when u get em
thanks !
don't open tech boxes when you get them
craft them up to purple before you do
This is the stuff i got rn
start a thread this is going to get long
use f6f's as fighters but ya thread
How does thread work
gear help
try smth like amagi cv + nano + implac/haku + unzen/z52 + kazagumo + shimakaze/eldridge/flex
make sure to use enough boilers to outspeed her fog
~~ you pinged at 3 am...~~
dev 20 ply is missing a whole mg mount so helena would prob be better
well
did you read the fine print or indeed the details on the mechanics of this boss
eld wont be enough
mogador might work
hinden might be shooting too slow
and yes doesnt destroy shields

do you have any DDGs
just send the dds and cls
well what do you have then
just give up and come back for it next year
will it even be here next year

no idea, we're still on the second rotation
you need pellet spam
your backline will take care of the dmg
76mm tashkent
literally just mogador,tashkent, sandy
right now you're letting the boss heal herself for a fair bit because you're taking so long to break the shields
thus you have more HP to get through and thus it takes longer to kill her
the name of the game here isn't damage, it's bullet spam
how can i insert more blue quality faster?
You let auto select use your gold stones
But I wanna use my blue ones xd
Then keep tapping
autoclicker
cant you tap and hold
ty thatt is much faster
Would double Skyraider on YTII be a viable damage boost or would it slow her down too much?
it doesn't matter, game doesn't over/underuse your total augment XP anyway and there's no storage cap we know of
oh okay i shouldnt worry about "saving"?
nope
no, hvars are better for the slot
and your other cv would benefit more
other CVs like say haku
unless you manually select random things to enhance with it's always whole denominations of any of the augment stones
not as slow as I thought it would be but this is with 41 CV reload
it's still fast enough for 3 strikes where relevant
isnt it worse damage though
well no
but you're better off using a second rocket fighter and giving the skyraider to another CV
looks piss cursed
ok i guess it's not worse on light
Skyraider is the highest damage aircraft against light armor period
and 3 x 135% is still pretty high
yo
when i sync cvs for anti light fleet
do i want them to be close to kear or does it not matter
didn't stig or someone say it conveniently syncs with Fritz
well 2 Skyraiders instead of one does make things just naturally easier to line up
yeh
if you need Nakhimov to go ahead you can also Saiun
since the torps less relevant for light
also cheeky, how much cv rld did u use for this
actually I don't remember
Well I've been cvrldmaxxing so that works out fine for me, thanks
this is 0 RLD with oath
dang ytII needs 2 fighters, gonna need 5 hvars now
ima just use 0 rld for now
in all cases where a HVAR is missing you can cope with BFG
as I have mentioned for the past week you only "need" 2 with 1 each for Kearsarge's and Yorktown II's skills
can i cope with la9
a tad slow but maybe
I'm not sure what the damage comparison is for La-9 and BFG for light
hopefully 3 is farmable
only one way to find out
gn gph 
guys i just got back. was a day1 player and stopped after implacable. i am getting the hang of things especially opsci but is it really this hard to get a UR (something) for AA?
Nah not really
do your daily missions as indicated in green
I have a dumb question, I just started a while ago and I am doing the story right now, currently at chapter 9
But there wasn’t any story after chapter 4 or something? Am I missing something or is there no main story really? I am interested in the lore because the story in the last event was pretty cool.
99% of the story is contained within events
there isnt any story in campaign basically
Ah okay that makes sense, there as just a little in the beginning and then I got confused. But I am glad that I didn’t accidentally miss anything or forgot to turn something on for the campaign lmao. Thank you! 
TL;DR - forget any semblance of story when playing AL
#al-lore would be the best place if you're looking for story stuff btw
Okay thank you! 
that, or if you are willing to sit thru a 3hr-ish (somewhat outdated) yt video someone made a few months ago
There's a much more recent and better made hour long summary made by #al-lore resident full flow
Also the 3 hour video you mentioned is 3 years old as of now, not months
aww rip noshiro isnt a top 3 light cruiser anymore
nosh hasnt been top 3 for several years already
alright just saw the pinned message. danke 🙂
Is it the video in pins? The azure lane story in one hour?
it is
saved ya a click
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqpAUvCFJCo
Or less!
I've summarized the entire story of Azur Lane up to Martyrium!
This is my first video and I'm rather torn about how it came out. I like certain parts of it, but my pacing is... a little fast. Subtitles are available!
Anyway, thanks for checking this out!
Okay cool, I’ll watch that. Thank you so much 
yeah i took a long break from AL and am coming back recently
sad to see all the ships that were bumped down tiers
power creep 
tashkent moving from a top 3 dd down to tier 1 hurts my soul
shes pretty decent now with her augment
can kear,yk2,enty one shot temperence with 0 tech
Yes
us FDG offflag okay?
yes
with fs5 yes
no fs5, only dev30
then stick to flag
its okay
ok thanks
flag is better but off flag is okay
hey how do I automatically skip this dialog?
this is what appears after clearing a opsi map for the first time.
I'm sorta re-grinding on opsi for upgrades on hipper and points for next month shop, doing this on msi player that can act as an emulator too, so the settings must've been reset
Settings > Turn on the setting that makes TB talk less.
Try reduce tb guidance in settings
who is temperance?
/sirenstats
arbiter
huh... so it was off on my settings, this is probably it thanks you two @stark quiver
even soyuz fdg vanguard with 1 mk7 can one shot, kear ykII enty might be able to 1 strike even
This months arby 
oh shoot I forgot this month's got 20s shield or smth
It’s gonna eat a strike but it’s fine
Is it worth to get hipper meta from last event? I have the 8k points or should i go for anything else
Depends
If u want collection go ahead
I mean tash was top 3 dd back then
she's still one of the best dds that isnt rainbow or a ddg thanks to augment 
Im new to the game so idk if it will help me to progress more smoothly
Id get the torps unless u rly lie mipper
Chat for BB aux general use, does the triple 155 perform better than the twin 150 tbtsk in series 6
What makes tashkent op
her augment
tashkent's op?
Doesn't seems that good unless her summon do bullshit damage
Hey guys I'm a bit newer, what should I be doing with this META dossier?
Never seen it before
tash summon is like another gun mount for her
buffs her dmg to be the best DD at light armour amongst the non DDGs+mog
also the fact that she's currently the best partner for nakhi against light
What's Z52's use case? Mob? Boss? Both?

free UR better than gacha UR
ayo what
red name in the chat
oh nice shes back

what made tash good again
augment
How does she compare to other UR DDs? Like where does she sit, if that question makes sense.
Shouldn't New Jersey deal more damage?
same as laff2
(Eldridge Kai included.)
what boss is this?
I wouldn't say same they don't fill the same niche
Taihou meta
feel like im struggling to make coins, dont really remember this being the case a while back
eldridge kai definitely difference niche since eld can protect your vanguards
kears has planes
are you at least past ch9 and are you spending more for anything
also pretty sure kears damage was always better than NJ
Yes but don't stress over it too much, relatively minor and unimpactful
I need rainbow 457mm
how to improve this fleet
from where I left, the last ch i completed was 14-2
and where are you grinding for coins, or are you just spending more
feel like im just spending more, i guess
are shinano chan better than shoukaku 
rather than a pure tank and aa carry like laff2
she does everything plymouth does
tank, dps and support
that said she has weaker tanking and aa than laff2 (still VERY respectable)
i'd call her like a queen of all trades really
i think so
Uhh that's shoukaku
just use BB
before I stopped playing augments were super new and I barely had any at all
Alright, good to know then. Thanks Ender. 
Guys should i invest into retrofitting Helena or is she skipable with my ships?
will QETA + fdg + another META BB work
Kinda wanna try her against METAihou just for funsies.
helena is irreplacable so retro her
if you've gone around making augments willy nilly that would have cost a fair bit of coin, yes
this is my BBs
see bb good numbers
but i don't have any of those
what is this no gacha account
also shoukaku shdnt be doing that little
so now to get a special augment for a ship it’s like 21k coins, and then the research is costing me a lot of coins and cubes a day as well
She's good for it
flandre fdg dork ig
i still think cv better though
it's heavy, why wouldnt CV be better
I see, what about Helena META?
theres a new augment guide on the streets but few people need an augment guide https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/
different role entirely
a dps instead
Eldridge instead of Agir is possible
yes but you also don't have to get augments for everyone
Gonna try this one later. 
eldridge and ark royal just make all torp hit maihou
And Nakimov insyeaf of Ark Royal
i don't have eld kai
nakh tash?
her retro item missions need to do gacha
no gacha challenge?
Clearly bad game design
is this nagami's no-gacha account again
so many aux/skins i miss because of that stupid missions
build 2 ship
Uhh so no Nakimov then I take it
not done yeah
how many cubes do you have on that, 10k?
show cv
well good luck waiting for shop then 
asking for a friend is nahkimov > shinano and when
arrays have nothing to do with it though
pretty sure always if nano is unpaired
if nano is paired (with haku/amagi) then nahk probably only better on light
Probably Chkalov, Haku, Ark Royal
try haku enty/chka avp
any recommendations on a hardmode stage to do? ive been doing 7-2 for the past 3 years
uhh idr what ara is perma but run agir + ara + helena
Highest chapter you can do
just do the hardest chapter available
If she provides better team contribution
Nahkimov has a potential freeze paired with her pers dmg she can swap over nano even on heavy depending on its relevance
is skyraider > helldiver for toihou meta fight
And for vanguard
Helena, ARA and Ibuki I guess
should i use z52 on my mob? im planning on replacing yuudachi
taihou meta fight have the mobs
wouldn't that make skyraider even worse? I guess yeah you're right the thing doesn;t work for some case because of that
honestly could drop kronk for z52 instead
just for more dmg since z52 is bulky anyway
Skyraiders rockets make it more single target oriented
so unzen would be the tank or nah
z52 tank
would they not target the mobs?
Though I'm not sure with relatively little reload tech how well Helena will sync
ok what abt my main is there any issues im also planning on using rumey
Not unless they have higher targetting priority
Mob for what content exactly
does the fight have any good launch time?
worlds
Not really
Which campaign stage specifically
what about bombs, can mobs make bombs not distribute around the humanoid?
13 above
prob make nj flag and drop vanny for rumey
also probably drop helena for someone else since this is a campaign boss fleet
any more specific help and youll have to give more context
It works as is for w13 but you'll need to make a number of changes for W14
Definitely won't work for W15
alright
You can afford to run double oxy on Ibuki
+13?
If you have them sure
Also if the Helena sync doesn't work out I guess drop her for Z52
should i also use the mob and boss fleet on opsi? i just use uni and perse on separate fleets so they can take turns on fights
As an f2p that is running out of dock space (413/430), what are my options?
I haven't cleared W15 yet, so I am currently preparing to 3* that for the remaining gems.
The only other options I can find are commission farming, ditching ships and 
No reason to have both uni and percy in opsi
Those are your only options besides stop being f2p
spend money or do some scrapping
like lv120 tech ships with retro and aug and/or blue and gray
what aux do you run on z52 for maiho, fargo drone and?
when is yt2 coming
the 9th
Work robot and autoloader or oxy torps
I run this
how much is the "little bit" dmg buff on that robot aux
Still no clue actually
1% each proc
3 helena scan
Hmmm
though i think last one doesn't get into helena buff window
whats the goal here
Yeah that's what i suspected
should i double oxy unzen or nah
as much dmg as possible, but i think this is good enough, 2 shots
Nagami's no gacha account
i see that explains it
i think i need to farm more rld tech
🧵
wait is there even rld tech left
It has the least movement rng and helps a bit with her torps
too late it's done already
Not from that lot
Oh wait no Houshou META
Zuihou is also +2 hit
what's the cd needed for helena
22 seconds really at max for 3 strikes
Soryuu Meta
does the opsi port shop refreshes weekly?
ok so i just need to be a little bit faster
after 1st monthly opsi reset, once per month
You also forgot to craft Ibuki's augment
i did before fight
Monthly if you cleared ch4 or every 3 days prior
It restocks every month after your first reset
Are your CVs also keeping concealment?
im on chapter 14 and this is what i have atm:
yeah i need to know if this does refresh every 3 days?
No
No it doesnt
yep
so these shops refresh every... month??
yes
Yes
hmmmm no update for Gearlab?
same item(ish) but without the annoying 3 days reset and rng
ooof. where will i get my UR AA BPs then. T^T
focus 1-2 wyverns first
do you even need UR AA BPs
by grinding and being patient, the game is a marathon, what's the rush
i want the gear lan UR AA
Clearing opsi, shop change doesnt affect ur mats income because the stock is lit the same but without rng
i just got back from about 2 -3 years hiatus. i am feeling a bit overwhelmed atm.
I love my 57s as much as anyone else but they're not that important
57 is like, quite far down the list of rainbow gear prios
esp when there's stuff like wyverns, 457s, mk7s, and soon tenrais
all the more reason to take things slower
thanks! i missed out on a lot. -_-
next UR rerun is york II right?
do we know the next one after that?
hoping to get biscuit.
Probably Implacable
we know the order for years unless they change a lot
next is impla
not that id remember it
i remember implacable is after yorktown2 just a small detail since i did back to back pities
then after her is biscuit? or the russian girl?
Bismarck zwei
is there even any russians left
Soyuz
impla -> biszwei -> unzen -> laff2/guam -> soyuz -> mog/alsace -> amagi -> rumey/z52
when they feel like it
Is york 2 must have?
but focusing on reruns might not be the best idea since we also get new URS all the time
someone might disagree but imo she is not must have by any means
no single ship is a must have, but every new UR ship has been worth pulling for. And yorkii rerun may or may not be worth cubing to pity for
for example imo impla after her is like way more important

I bought shinano skin with f2p gem but don't have her ship coz it will be rare, and I haven't buy 2f dorm. Am I gonna bricked? 
yes it was awful idea
f2p should not even consider buying paid skins
i am not playing the private quarters yet - am i missing out on something liek items?
nope
okay. how about the tamagochi mode for TB?
Private quarters and tb raiding is solely for your own enjoyment
both are waste of space and time
thanks! for some reason im running out of SR bullins.
and im at the point where im retiring my blue ones. smh.
I have more SSR bullin than SR bullin lmao
not for long. XD
would recommend getting dock space increase tho.
My dock is 170/186 with empty common ship 
Coz I saving every each first ship to lb
yeah. that is why i think dock space is the first prio for gems.
it gets annoying when grinding maps and it keeps stopping due to to full dock.
I should MLB every common ship quickly to get rid of them after
they can still give tech points and fleet tech at 120, even though they are kinda negligible
i keep all my level 120 ships
but do you level them up to 120??
aah. i though everyone - that's quite expensive, resource wise.
i try to keep them to level 85. for future retros.
quick question: for the Yorktown II rerun will it be like a mini event along side another event?
what's the best way to waste gold?
limit breaking SRs and Es
it's the main event with maps and such
what carriers have 15% to 25% shortened first load?
Independence, Bearn META with gun
‼️ misremembered indep as 30%
suchimisinformation at it again
only those 2 it seems, the rest are all faster or slower
or more rather more or less than that % range, actual speed aside
this is why we buy dock space 
cats
catsoup

is clear reward proprotional to oil spent below the oil cap?
i need to math whether my hvar farm alone is enough to pity yk2 or not
Who to max next?^^^
ie if oilcap is 267/run and clear reward is 1000 coin, if i use 134 oil hypothetically is the clear reward 500? or is it a different formula?
coin is proportional to oil spent and ratio based on stage

for meta, nakh, fritz, amagi and z52
for main story, musa and z52
by ratio based on stage dyou mean just how each stage has specific clearing rewards
like how d1 and d3 give different
different stages scale differently on the oil spent, so if you spent the same oil on 12-4 and 13-4 somehow, 13-4 will still give you more coins
not sure how big the difference will be for d1 and d3 but if you're farming rocketcats it's not like you have a choice on this ratio
yeah, i know. what im wondering is the ratio when below the oilcap amount, ie, spending 134 oil in a 267 oil stage
directly proprotional for the bonus coins
tyty
oh yeah i dont need to worry, assuming absolute lowest range provided by the wiki i'll be obtaining 600k coins from my hvar farm. neat.
Fritz first before Amagi?
Or is that in no particular order?
5 hvars is a good count right 
depends on what you need, russian+fritz for light and med, russian+amagi for heavy
My face when I run Volga
I'll max Amagi then since I need something vs heavy and I assume she is also pretty good vs med
guys what UMs should I be focussing on aside from Sandy's and Ibuki's.
that's fine yeah
russian+amagi is like no 2 on paper for meta fight
wts um
on who
albacore if you use fish pack
like wht is ur options
i have all chars till impla
i just got back and there are a lot of ships with UMs now.
get them if u use them /or if u just like that wep
or u96 if you use wolf pack
tehy cheap anyway
Guys, which of these banners should i go for. Newb here. Just playin for hours noob kinda thing
arent the stone thingies hard to come by?
oh u used them all xD
but yea just craft wht u need no need to rush
daily light outside event

21k coin isnt cheap not to mention even if you played since augment release it's impossible to have every unique augment
you really need to be selective with which ones you make
maybe i just dont do much aug enougn mb
Light ships?
this one
I see
one per day only
whre do you actually get these augment core?
1 day 1 pull from that outside event
this is for the daily mission
1 pull in light banner everyday for the daily mission, to save for next event which is in a few days
event shop, event milestone, normal arbiter in opsi, and augment weekly raid
as long as u do daily mission u will get 4 cubs per day , and since u have to do 1 light pull per day as the daily mission u will profit 3 cubs per day
theyre a fairly slow trickle compared to each unique needing 15, though for generics it's pretty reasonable (purples need 4 iirc)
Does that banner have those waifus with giant bajongkas? (not the loli types. Asking for a friend
thank you! will take note of that.

all of them have but for now u just care light
next item: cattery - do you guys use this/take it seriously?
doesnt matter, ur doing it just for the daily mission since it's a net positive (200 coin and 3 quick finishers)
you pull in events.
Alright, thankss alot matey
it is for minmaxing but just slapping cats into your fleets already gives fleetwide buffs so.. also you want high level gold rarity cats in your opsi mob fleet because that influences the cat node loot in opsi
beyond that minmaxed cats provide quite substantial buffs but they are a very very long term investment, heavily rng and a massive coin sink
alrighty. ill keep it in the backburner for now. i still have a lot of ships to retrofit.
seems like i missed tai yuan's retrofit item tho.
u can also eat the while aug
sorry come again?
also - i did my part on the daily opsi missions - are these chest worth it or should i use the siren locator?
Grind the entire map clean, and buy the loggers from shop too
is there an auto setting to priorities maps with indicators? or its just random for now?
What happen to the shinano bunny skin...?
As the game has announced , due to some Karen finding that her kid is gooning to skins , she bitch about the game to Google , 5 skins were removed from sale , nano included
Bruh...
oh. like have the item consume them for xp? got it.
This game literally 16+ or older but why they remove that skin like for real
yea u can use them for exp
.
complain about skin stuff somewhere else
that sstupid karen is stupid
Either way they announced in multiple places about the removal beforehand , should've gotten it before hand 
you can watch Azur Lane Meta's video for better info
Right....
They probably posted a poor kids secretary slots 
shapeshifter 
How much coins for 400 pulls on event banner
💀
600k
Why do you need 400 pulls 
doesnt matter
armor of Arbiter boss rn?
light
ic tnx
how good is aquila for general use? Im thinking of leveling her
2nd best healer
oh so its like uni, aquila, then perseus or something like that?
best gold cv you can get
she can be your boss healer in late chapters, mob secondary healer, mob fast farming cv
i have uni at max xp and 200 oath 😭 shes fine and im done with world 14 so if shes good in W15 I'll get her ready
shes a single target healer thats hard to compare to aoe healers, but shes best at that
well I do have a ryuuhou at 125 and I think my volga is as well but if she's that good I wouldn't mind as I need another ship for my leveling fleet
yeah you're right and for ryuuhou it's because it's based off her own HP right?
is there any full preload carrier besides uni, perseus and aquila?
well I'll level up aquila because she seems pretty good for me trying to do W15 eventually
volga and aquila does not preload + heals
volga only heals, aquila only preload or only heals
oh shit i read wrong sorry i read is there another other healer

ive been trying to clear the middle sector on OpSi and how come this fleet does more damage ~35% than the second one
y is ur ui like that or did they got an update?
helena and no perseus
idk why...is that baltimore right? is there, she buffs american cvs and your fleet has none
can i see yours?
im in the middle of battle wait
wdym? its always been like this
thats the fleet option outside or fleet option at opsi
latter.
its the menu you get when you click "fleet" on the radial map where order also is
When I click fleet
i dont think you got which fleet i meant
mine are shit 
@tropic tuskpress this
i have found out as long as the game dosnet randomly update the game my c1 loop is a net profit
not this
ya i figure it out now xD thx
its been like that since opsi release
fleet 1 - does everything
fleet 2 - backup boss fleet
fleet 3 - random backup rejects that'll get sorted out later in the month
fleet 4 - c1 exp grind
open thread n post box will be better
whut?
box = dock
idk why ppl call it box
used to puzzle n dragon 
Returnee. Need Help for OpSi middle sector (Hard)

I read the wiki that the cap of cv rld is 41 but i saw a video that said i need at least 50 cv rld. Is that video fake? If not how to get another extra 9 cv rld?
cat
Ah the cat but which talent?
the ones that give reload
A8 fair enough
but who needs cat adjusted reload
cv rld, ace, and cv officer, 6+8+6
and 2 cats per fleet means you can get 40 rld from 2 cats
does any important content where cats matter allow cats
Yeah. Ch 7.
no
just there for calculation i guess
It's a video i saw months ago but 1 thing is about using nakh
I'm not sure tho
sounds really miserable
how do u got that much lvl 120s
nothing
well she is a fine healer for non endgame stuff but unicorn is just better at everything
didnt you ask that already
300k?
did i????
read what i answered
mihgt have been so surprised by the whole gooning karen situation thing lol
meant to say 200 pulls****
300k is alot more reasonable LOL
