gameplay-help

[oak sage]

she's bad outside of like 2 gamemodes I heard no?

[hollow gust]

Email customer support

[oak sage]

tho I definitely know she's hot ass for campaign

[sweet delta]

When there are only like 5 gamemodes

[stark quiver]

not hot ass

[hollow gust]

When shes better then most ships in the game in every content

[whole crypt]

many ships suffer similarly if you don't know what to use a ship for or how to

[undone plover]

she is just a bit awkward for campaign
not exactly ass
a lot of ships are amazing but they dont work for chapters 14 and 15
those 2 chapters just need a lot of specific comps

[hollow gust]

At that point might as well call fdg ulrich hot trash cause they are powercreeped as fk

[whole crypt]

some the modes she is useful for also tends to be the more challenging parts of the game

[oak sage]

oh I see

it was just stuff I heard but that's good, I'm glad I can still use her quite a bit then

ofc not for harder campaign stages

[undone plover]

someone prolly told u not to use kear for campaign cuz it is too much headache and they are probably right
when other options like musashi, soyuz and alsace exist

[hollow gust]

She shines in opsi , meta boss fights , even pvp( although she's out of the meta currently). She works perfectly fine in late game campaign

[whole crypt]

the only things with "hard" requirements are ch14/15 and 1 shot attempts on harb/showdown

[atomic abyss]

a dev 11 kear isnt doing shit after all

[oak sage]

yeah I'm only using this dev11 kear when the stage is really easy

[hollow gust]

~~ if people thing ships like kearsarge are shit , then they are shit at the game ~~

[oak sage]

when it's hard she is 100% getting benched

[hollow gust]

Although dev11 kearsarge is worthless , pretty sure even Penn does better

[atomic abyss]

even a BM would

[whole crypt]

you should just bench her anyway unless you're grinding her affinity, plenty of ships do better than her at that dev level

[hollow gust]

It's like using a lmb0 ship

[viscid swift]

where even are you in the main campaign

[undone plover]

she will soon get catchup so u can max her faster

[whole crypt]

actually dev10 is closer to 1LB

but a dev10 is definitely not going to be better than your run of the mill BB MLB

[atomic abyss]

d10 kears btw

the only thing high is the oil cost

[oak sage]

yeah I am aware how bad it is lol, can clear some current stages with her rn so I still will use her, once I start pushing story again she will be benched

[undone plover]

usable as ARA ship

[oak sage]

cuz I do in fact wanna raise affinity

[atomic abyss]

penny for the matter

[whole crypt]

where are you now because it's likely that you will be better off pushing story than mucking around where you are now

[late flame]

tbh up to w13 campaign anything works

[atomic abyss]

he was at w7 iirc

[viscid swift]

Are you at least in chapter 12 because if you did all of that grinning not in w12 that would be the true waste

[oak sage]

I am at w9 and am spending time grinding the event lol

[atomic abyss]

i mean he got kears before ancho even so

[late flame]

oof moment

[undone plover]

after event is over push for ch12

[whole crypt]

[oak sage]

that's the plan

[viscid swift]

God the amount of time and oil wasted on that

[oak sage]

it was a special occasion, I like kear ;-;

[stark quiver]

thats fine

[late flame]

nothing time and actually following some sound advice cant fix

[oak sage]

I will go optimal after kear I promis

[atomic abyss]

i mean i just feel that stuff like the extremely good ancho could have been used as a stepping stone for kears..

[viscid swift]

The issue isn't that you went for Kearsarge

[whole crypt]

you can just optimize then come back to Kearsarge

[undone plover]

what is done is done dw about it
but dont grind research ships in non oil cap maps
oil cap is ch9+ and event D maps

[viscid swift]

It's that you did it before you were in w12

[atomic abyss]

since ancho is also US tech

[late flame]

+anchor sees more use cases than kear

[whole crypt]

you're not doing kearsarge any justice in her current state anyway

[oak sage]

that's true

[viscid swift]

It's really difficult to put into words just how much time, oil, and effort you expended for no reason because you did the entire grind below chapter 9

[undone plover]

btw u can get ship blueprints before u have them
so for example u can get kearsarge blueprints and then develop her when u are close to 513 blueprints
just for future reference

[viscid swift]

Instead of just waiting to do it in w12 when it would have taken you less than a week

[oak sage]

the only reason it was like that was cuz I was constantly quitting and rejoining the game

if I didn't quit I woulda been at w12 a while ago

[sweet delta]

Anyone here have some lb0 but otherwise maxed like level 125, max skills, max affinity URs for educational purposes?

[viscid swift]

I'm sure some of our newbies might

[sharp socket]

i had shinano like that a couple months ago and id do it for fritz too

[late flame]

i could raise kronk (though she's like lv90 now kek)

[oak sage]

I also kinda don't care how much oil was lost cuz I was so inactive that it didn't matter

[stark quiver]

do u have 5 dollars and paypal?

[undone plover]

i have a lb0 level 120 otherwise maxed and oathed vanguard

[sharp socket]

mog is also 120 0lb 100aff max skills

[oak sage]

so what's done is done, I am literally building ancho as we speak

[undone plover]

dw about it
like I said what is done is done
we are just trying to emphasize the push to chapter 12

[viscid swift]

Yeah please treat her grind as a 2ndary objective until you get to w12

[oak sage]

that is my top goal once the event is over

[late flame]

cant say i'm not curious as to why quit and rejoin though

[oak sage]

should I stay at w12 or push as far as I can?

[crisp raven]

i hvae mog in such a state. want the ss here or in dms? i havent been following chat too closely, so i dont know the context of this request

[hot fox]

does FDG need to be in the middle?

[viscid swift]

W12 will basically be your permanent farming spot

[oak sage]

gotcha

[atomic abyss]

before fs5, yes

[viscid swift]

You will never leave

[oak sage]

any specific stage or just anywhere on w12?

[atomic abyss]

before dev 30 you shdnt be using fdg

[hot fox]

Thank you

[undone plover]

stay in ch12
then farm YKII event
then next goal is to get some decent opsi fleets and farm for a few months to get good gear
after that u can push to chapter 13 and above

[viscid swift]

12-1 or 12-4

[late flame]

iirc
12-1 is more exp/oil (also smaller map so good if you also want to train subs)
12-4 is more coin/oil

[storm heron]

or 12-2 or 12-3 if you haven't got hiyou/junyou

[whole crypt]

those are afterthoughts really

[oak sage]

aight thx for the help and uhh, sorry for gunning for kear

[sweet delta]

actually, we are more interested in BB or CV

[eternal moth]

There's no easy way to get a single augment module core right?

[stark quiver]

your time to shine faer

[oak sage]

tho tbh I don't really regret gunning for kear, she can be my assistant while I cath up on everything else 💀

[viscid swift]

Nope

[crisp raven]

ah, then i am of no help for that. carry on!

[undone plover]

does it have to be level 125 sushi

[sweet delta]

120+ but why do you have such a mistake

[stark quiver]

actaully maybe hikari might be able to help with that

[undone plover]

it is not a mistake
just not enough bulins

[sweet delta]

I don't see any packs in the shop with an augment core

[late flame]

time to submit feedback ask devs to allow un-MLB ships

[crisp raven]

granted, but you are not refunded resources spent originally

[sweet delta]

Fr let me scrap and refarm my Plymouth

Basically just want to know about how many hundred percents is the true benefit

[sweet delta]

Is this UvH?

[undone plover]

i can test this but Vanguard is support mainly so it might be skewed
I am also out of UR bulins so wont be any time soon

[stark quiver]

i have a 0lb 120 uvh, max skill, 100aff

[raven kindle]

is it still worth to +13 the rainbow fighter if i already have enough +13 bf109s and converging tbs

[whole crypt]

please tell me it's just because you don't have the bulins for her

[sweet delta]

2 rld ain't much but it's honest work

1 rld

[stark quiver]

i do have enough, shes just too far down the list

[whole crypt]

down the list for what

[undone plover]

limit break I assume

[viscid swift]

Ur bullins probably

[undone plover]

~~smh these boomers dont know zoomer struggle ~~

[stark quiver]

z52, fritz, yk2, uvh, kronk

~~unless i spread out my bulins ~~

[undone plover]

uvh and kron should be perma pity anyway

[viscid swift]

Soon

[whole crypt]

Kronshtadt is Soon™️

[undone plover]

well UvH already is but my point is they are not in bulin queue

[whole crypt]

well he said he has enough bulins so my assumption is there weren't ships waiting otherwise

[stark quiver]

i meant to say i have enough bulins to mlb a ship or two

anyways corpse dragging her wasnt it, 0/10 will not recommend

[late flame]

but its fun

[viscid swift]

Can't be worse than pre retro Chen hai

[undone plover]

shouldnt need to corpse drag a UR tbh, even LB0

[late flame]

hwah jah comes close

[sweet delta]

Corpse dragging a 0lb zombie wasn't so good either

[stark quiver]

was leveling tennesee and oklahoma in the same fleet, that prolly didnt help lol

[viscid swift]

Yeah I had a feeling it was 3 crappy BBs

[late flame]

i'm now doing strictly one rubbish bb +rld only per fleet lol

[whole crypt]

do you really want to go back there?

Hwah Jah wasn't even close

at least she had three times the seaplanes

[late flame]

she's rubbish in a DE fleet nonetheless

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

is chen hai rld

fml

[whole crypt]

Chen Hai is much easier to work with nowadays anyway

[stark quiver]

ima just level her while affinity grinding my pvp fleet

[whole crypt]

she's more or less a functional CVL now with retrofit

[sweet delta]

she's a bit less than alright, but should have no problems leveling

[hollow gust]

~~more useful then graf ~~

[stark quiver]

i dont retrofit leveling ships

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[viscid swift]

Well good luck reaching 100% collection then

[stark quiver]

i blame my financial situation

soon™️

[clever lance]

It’s server check time might

[opal stirrup]

Could someone rate my Amagi. I’ve finish building her

[whole crypt]

works

[stark quiver]

looks fine
other than amagi herself

[clever lance]

Is there a server check tonight**

[viscid swift]

7/10

[whole crypt]

what do you mean server check

[eternal moth]

Maint is tomorrow night

[stark quiver]

i mean theres a new month i guess

[clever lance]

Got it thanks

[opal stirrup]

How could I make her better

[sweet delta]

Looks like someone went on ectl and farmed the top gun

[eternal moth]

Use someone better than Amagi

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

A lot of expensive gear that may or may not be practical for you to get and would be wasted on her anyway

7 is a solid rating from me anyway all things considered

[sweet delta]

don't look at ingame loadouts fellas

[eternal moth]

The FdG gun could have been farmed in this event at the least

[clever lance]

What augment for z52?

[eternal moth]

Swords

[clever lance]

Thanks

[hazy musk]

except 3* map main story, top up, how to get gems ?

[forest palm]

2018 ass ah ass amagi build

[opal stirrup]

Anyway it been a decade since Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List got update, what happen?

[forest palm]

go to their server the link is on their site

[late flame]

join their discord and bug them

[forest palm]

we are not the keeper

[sharp socket]

ectl is not affiliated with this server

[whole crypt]

as per my usual recommendation learn to wean off using ECTL

[forest palm]

I don't think there's anyone left that directly works on ECTL in this server

[undone plover]

memento/collection also gives some gems

[runic lagoon]

I took some advice from here and pretty much just sorted my fleet from top ASW. This is my mob fleet and I’m trying to clear w14.

1. Is this a good enough fleet for it? My musashi and rumey aren’t built yet but I wanted to include them because someone said to include battleships.
2. If there are any guides on world 14, I’ll be happy to take a look. I never really tapped into meta outside of just taking recommended gear.

[storm heron]

stop using 3 CV, w14's suicide boats are very hard to deal

[viscid swift]

No

Just start a thread and post your dock at this point

[opal stirrup]

Umm so are there anyway to get META ship from the past, I really want that U-556 META

[sweet delta]

wait for her event rerun

same time when Bismarck Zwei will rerun

[opal stirrup]

I'll be waiting for eternity

[simple cairn]

where can I get this

[viscid swift]

One copy from the current event

Any more, you can't right now

[simple cairn]

okay thank you

[runic lagoon]

World 14 fleet help

[soft raft]

Damn I didn't know Musashi was a Carrier

[opal stirrup]

In this I believe It good right?

[wind hazel]

Musashi II CV type

[stark quiver]

Like 2nd best

[storm heron]

it's a ?? from me

[vital rune]

Is there a point In a 2nd fleet early game if I jus Brute force with 1 team?

[forest palm]

don't need one till like w10

[vital rune]

Bet

Jus gotta level this gold and purple shit

[soft raft]

uh before you do, go give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Especially becaue Higher rarity does not always equal better (This mainly applies to a majority of SRs in the perament pool)

[vital rune]

Don't question the lvl 64 laffey

I should prob restart so I can split those books with all 6

[late flame]

restart what

[vital rune]

Another account

[worldly pewter]

there might be some zoomers who have managed to escaped that kind of struggle

[soft raft]

Dont

[late flame]

i wouldnt reroll tbh unless you spent all that gems on skin

[soft raft]

or scrapped your hedgehog

[vital rune]

What's hedgehog before I do it

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hedgehog

[vital rune]

Oh I've yet to delete gear yet

[visual blaze]

is fritz gonna be essential or will i be ok if i dont get her? just a hypothetical

[keen sable]

you should be saving the books for the mythical second fleet actually

[vital rune]

Good idea

Now I must level these ship through stages

[soft raft]

She's very good but you'll live just fine if you dont manage to get her

Heck you might eventually get someone that beats her by the time she reruns, who knows

[visual blaze]

im good then, thanks (shes the second ur i dont get)

[sleek spade]

She can carry you through campaign tho!

[final heart]

besides from the 4k pts prototype trade, is there any other source to get a UR bullin?

[eager mulch]

UR event milestones
cruise pass

[uncut horizon]

I cleared current event's ex hard mode using a 3:1 fleet comp but I was wondering if I can clear it again using a 2:1 fleet comp (or less ???)? If there's a way to do it, can someone tell me what shipgirls to sortie?

[sweet delta]

1:1 is possible if you dodge well enough. But the score will be worse because you take much longer

[final heart]

ty ty

[uncut horizon]

What shipgirls did you sortie for the ex hard mode (1:1)?

[sweet delta]

i didn't do 1:1

[uncut horizon]

Oh okay, thank you btw :3

[sweet delta]

i think Volga Laffii would be easy to survive with

or Zuihou for less damage than Volga but you literally shouldn't die

[uncut horizon]

Okay I'll try those suggestions. Thank you very much

[vital rune]

If my highest stage is 3-4 do I still not farm it even if I Need ship xp?

[sweet delta]

farm it

but farm event instead since theres only 1 day left

[simple cairn]

hello quick question, does this mean it won't matter if I plug in a full fleet of expensive ships since its capped at 35 and 47 oil cost?

[vital rune]

I can try but im struggling with level 25's rn

[fast steppe]

I've now got more staags than BBs used, who else should get them and in what order?

[true kraken]

C1 Mavuika or C0 Citlali?

[fast steppe]

this is AL

[sweet delta]

[true kraken]

my bad

[fast steppe]

I'm still using gold quad on most accelerator ships wondering if I should put them on CVLs or DDs first

and after CVLs who else

or just chuck Roomba on others

[raven kindle]

soo anyone have some specific suggestions for fast clearing opsi fleets ; -;

[storm heron]

amagi, shinano, level 1 helena, I have low cv avi and hit tech and bad cat and it barely 2 striked with max damage

[stark quiver]

how powerful is your account

[signal pollen]

Did they finish testing the new UR? If not, how long does it usually take for testing?

[storm heron]

they couldn't test this one yet since there's literally nothing to test against for now they're probably haven't figured out a good comp

[sweet delta]

did they finish testing the EN anniversary ships like Indiana yet?

there are lots of medium armor dossiers

[storm heron]

[fast steppe]

who else other than BBs and CVLs want staags over quad

[storm heron]

what medium armor dossiers can't be killed with the best pre-rumey comp?

[sweet delta]

torp-focused ships against bosses, usually want staag

gun-focused vanguard ships want twin 134mm against bosses usually

[fast steppe]

aight

[sweet delta]

all of them roll over to some combination of IJNs, Nakhimov, Soyuz, Eldridge

[haughty pine]

Any ideas/timelines on next event?

[ivory pawn]

Jan 9th, York2 rerun.

[haughty pine]

Great danke

[sweet delta]

Anonymous SKK actually had 125 oath lb0 fritz and bisz, so I copied their gear (with my high tech, <200 fritz and unoathed vanguard).
Their LB0 were against hiryuu, but my MLB were against arkm (should be close enough)
And the results are insane, it seems that reports of LB0's rubbishness have been greatly exaggerated.
Bisz with her guaranteed crit first volley and somewhat strong barrage only got +140% (2.4 times) after MLB. And she has the same reload at LB0 and at MLB. 160k vs 380k damage.
Fritz with her unique 4-plane loadout plus ghost CA at LB0 only got +100% after MLB, not considering reload time. 200k vs 400k for same La9+Skyraider loadout, or 200k vs 440k for La9+La9 due to MLB unlocking the flex slot.

[sharp echo]

should i buy crystal meta?

[grizzled sundial]

So,,,eh , in simple term she is stronk ?

[stark quiver]

533 improved

[grizzled sundial]

How many hipper crystal you have now

[jaunty vault]

if you need them, yes
torps and z52 dupes is higher prio

[grizzled sundial]

Keep grinding D3 , still have 1 day left to gather Hipper crystal

[sweet delta]

i don't think they're getting the z52 dupe

[jaunty vault]

just need 21+2k more for dupe and torp

[sharp echo]

i got 1 from gacha once
so 1 crystal so far

[jaunty vault]

bruh

[sharp echo]

cant get another z52, wont be enough

[jaunty vault]

did you buy the 8k one from shop

moment

[sharp echo]

i did bought the 8k meta

[grizzled sundial]

This could mean he only have hipper meta and no crystal yet , or he already have 1 hipper and then 1 crystal .

[fluid brook]

when do event ends?

[jaunty vault]

24 hours and 47 minutes

[grizzled sundial]

6K for 3 crystals then , but try to farm D3 as long as possible .

[sharp echo]

i bought the hipper first lmao

i should have waited

[fluid brook]

thanks, This event only two URs Z52 and Rumey r?

[jaunty vault]

this is why you always wait till end of event to buy event shop ship but eh can't cry over spilled milk

[grizzled sundial]

I also bought Hipper from shop and grinded all 4 crystals in D3 ,

[sharp echo]

wait we still have 24 hour to do the event?

[final heart]

we still have 1 day left?
I thought only the shop stays after a bit and the rest is gone in an hour

[sharp echo]

i thought it end like 40 min from now

[final heart]

yeah it's almost 1/1 for the entire world, no?

[jaunty vault]

monthly reset in 40min

event ends tomorrow i.e. 2/1/2025 or 1/2/2025

[sharp echo]

OOOOOOOH

[jaunty vault]

ig someone got the timestamp wrong for #event-faq can't blame them when they're understaffed

[simple cairn]

how good is implacable

[sharp echo]

but does hipper meta actually useful?

[jaunty vault]

hipperM is alright

[grizzled sundial]

Eh.......so so , not end game meta

[final heart]

nvm I just have reading issues

[storm heron]

so not 300% as advertised

[jaunty vault]

implacable is a great CV
her damage falls short when compared with other UR CV ships (she still beats most gold)
and she's got a support skill that practically every CV needs which is time stop so she's pretty much used in every CV bossing fleet

[sweet delta]

im working on it

[grizzled sundial]

Do weekly quest reward carry over to next week if you not claim it or it get delete ?

[jaunty vault]

latter

[storm heron]

yes delete

[agile sky]

does the event end in like 20 min or do we still have 1 day? Always forget if game ends events on the day of or the end of that day.

[storm heron]

event ends in 1 day 17 minutes and some seconds

I think

[agile sky]

I really hope so...
Im like legit 1k from 2nd UR and I was afraid i mightve dropped the ball.

[barren tapir]

ends in a day yes

[forest palm]

24 hrs get to grinding

[stark quiver]

does a ship's level affect how many bullets it shoots

[storm heron]

bro's speedrunning katsuragi

[barren tapir]

i mean id say yes because rld scales with level

[storm heron]

why network error

amagi medal shop

[wind hazel]

washington

[storm heron]

little E medal shop

[elfin hollow]

Is there any good AP barrage bb gun?

[storm heron]

twin 457

[elfin hollow]

2 expensive.

[stark quiver]

YES
bb

[storm heron]

huh

[stark quiver]

talking abt medal pool

[wind hazel]

mikasa gun poggies

[stark quiver]

for what ship

[storm heron]

[elfin hollow]

In general.

[storm heron]

[ionic mirage]

When will next banner gonna come?

[stark quiver]

jan 9

[ionic mirage]

Ooof a whole week, I feel Like pulling but gotta wait

[agile sky]

with the last of my currency, what should i get between final meta cryustal, chips and general blueprint?

[sweet delta]

the precursor to 457 is usable

[stark quiver]

oh yea forgot abt that

[fast steppe]

should I be buying all the file zone loggers at once?

[sweet delta]

buy the siren and normal coordinates first

[fast steppe]

yeah bought those already

[sweet delta]

it doesn't matter how many you buy at once

[fast steppe]

should I ever be buying the tuning samples

[sweet delta]

if you get like 14k vouchers per month and you want to do hard arbiter earlier, then ok

[stark quiver]

sushi thanks for cm guide fleets, they worked great

[soft forum]

Is seafang good for fritz?

[loud cedar]

Is there a must pick from these?

[sweet delta]

what fleet did you use?

[sweet delta]

depends on what's in your dock

[sweet delta]

it's ok for campaign

[storm heron]

BX2?

[loud cedar]

I've got these BB

[fair mountain]

How many z52 vouchers should we have gotten from the event? I am currently at 345, to my knowledge I did everything I could for those, but the event guide said we should get 390. Any idea what I am missing?

[sweet delta]

then all the medal BBs are just tech for you, choose the faction you need more tech of

[loud cedar]

Appreciate it

[storm heron]

yeah you should have 345

[fast steppe]

with yk2 event coming up should I save oil for the 5k logger or should I just clear manually

[storm heron]

up to you

[stark quiver]

do u care abt maximmizing your gains from farming yk2?

even if not, i personally would spend the oil to grind tech, not got QOL

[fair mountain]

Oh, so the event FAQ channel here was wrong...

[soft forum]

Which plane is good for fritz?

[sweet delta]

same plane as for other carriers, which is these

/equip the picture guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft forum]

Aight thanks good sir

[opal stirrup]

Is Nagato worth it or who else should I get?

[storm heron]

who is navajo

oh nagato

[sweet delta]

she's worth IJN tech points and for some decent late-endgame niche fleets

[opal stirrup]

*nagato

[storm heron]

did you show your dock somewhere else?

[quartz jungle]

How did you see a v

[stark quiver]

lvl 1 nagato is semi useful in EX battles, mikasas gun is good for pvp, warspite has good 120 tech, most of the ships have good tech at that

[storm heron]

classic edit loll

also I would get better tech like warspite, massa, or mikasa

mikasa gun seems to be as good as the gear lab blue gun, so it's ehh

[wind hazel]

you wanted the mikasa gun for pvp?

[stark quiver]

i mean what else lol

[wind hazel]

thought you were cooking some EX with musashi

[storm heron]

not like firing earlier on musashi would do much as other things like getting 0.1s faaster on soyuz

[stark quiver]

actually, good idea mori

[ionic mirage]

What's this? And whom to select???

[fast steppe]

how hard are strongholds with 0 adaptability

[storm heron]

anything I should get here?

I heard mikasa is good for EX

[stark quiver]

mikasas gun

[wind hazel]

very hard

[storm heron]

I suggest not to select anything here before d30 the ship

[rapid grail]

when does the oath ring pack deal expire

[sharp echo]

how do i know which ship have a live2d ?

[stark quiver]

catchup, basically free bps, PR2 fdg

[storm heron]

insanely hard, even I couldn't do it

[stark quiver]

look thru each ship and see the skin
or sort by l2d in skin shop

[storm heron]

I already have one

[ionic mirage]

D30???

[stark quiver]

dev 30

[sharp echo]

ooof

[sharp socket]

just buy logger, shop adapts and voucher adapts and do harby on 1st day

[jaunty vault]

read the research guide inthe guide compendium which appears when you do /guide in bot spam

[storm heron]

if you max a ship before doing catch-up, you can convert excess blueprint into protocore to buy rainbow weapons

[ionic mirage]

What it mean

[wind hazel]

it's max limit break, but for shipyard ships

[sharp socket]

it frees up a mission slot allowing you to be a little bit more lazy

[storm heron]

yeah try reading this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[ionic mirage]

Ohhh

[ionic mirage]

Thanks

[opal stirrup]

Roon is the one you should select cause she is crazy a very lovely, wonderful and innocence shipgirl you will ever met, I have spent I my ring to oath her totally not by forced 10/10 recommended for great personality and firepower

[storm heron]

very biased

[summer timber]

Greetings. I would like to create a threat for this month's extreme challenge.

[storm heron]

have you give this a read https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/january?

[stark quiver]

do these fleets look ok for this months ops

[storm heron]

no mob fleet is crazy

[stark quiver]

i dont need a mob

[storm heron]

can that fleet 3 even clear stronghold?

[stark quiver]

leveling fleet dont worry abt that

[storm heron]

I think making 1 bb fleet for this month's and 1 mob fleet will be enough

[barren tapir]

are bf109g worth +13

[sharp socket]

yes if you need it

[crisp raven]

you can see the remaining time ingame on the pack itself. it ends with the ur event, so 23ish more hours left.

[sharp socket]

also wait hvar before making any

[barren tapir]

ill use it as last resort for CM if i cant by the end of the month

[storm heron]

do alpha have bzwei?

[fast steppe]

do hidden zones drop adaptability

[barren tapir]

according to suchi bb is harder than cv

[storm heron]

I mean the cv has rumey

[stark quiver]

diffuculty depends on what you have, not what other people say

[barren tapir]

well its unlikely i will have rumey fully maxed by end of jan we'll see

atm im just using last months fleet with slight adjustments

[barren tapir]

suchi said mid end cv works but mid end bb wont

[sharp socket]

can i CM with BB, i have vanny soyuz alsace sushi fdg

[storm heron]

but he has like high end bb

[barren tapir]

he said even high end bb takes over 6 minutes with half tech and meh cats

it's fine, im pretty sure i can manual a W with indep amagi ruppy and 2 rockets

[summer timber]

Capricorn Extreme Challenge

[crisp raven]

6 < 10, so youre fine

[sharp socket]

meh ill just send it and see how it goes

[barren tapir]

my main weakness is i lack good pellet vanguards except plymouth and mine's not maxed yet

[stark quiver]

capricorn is a dps race

[barren tapir]

no because high end means triple UR and i have 0 UR bb lmfao

i also have 0 tech and basic ass cats, it aint happening also my ply isnt maxed

[sharp socket]

ill just desync the hell out of my BBs and pray i kill with the power of many shell

[barren tapir]

i do have decent gold bb options but...all 3 are mob preferred and flag desired so uh

going with ruppy cos of her ghost gun to help with the shields a little

[barren tapir]

well bb shells dont attack the shields

you gotta rely on vanguard mainly. tho i believe ghost guns and gun supports like odin/ruppy/rumey would work, not sure bout sara but i just kept her in for now

[fast steppe]

operation zone controlled with one of these remaining means it's a trap right

[barren tapir]

also CA and CB not very good due to low dakka

[sharp socket]

the shells just skip the shields dont they

[barren tapir]

theoretically if i manual i should have 100% geo accuracy on my cvs and win right i dont have a stop levelled yet LOL avp will take a while to get ready

[barren tapir]

you have to kill the shields or she keeps healing lol

she also gains a huge damage resistance buff when shielded, 40/60/80%

[sharp socket]

well the front deals with that

[barren tapir]

This month is a straight DPS and reading check.

[pliant tiger]

Helpies? don't mind the levels, I am working on it, what can be improved? (And can non 30 kearsarge be used with Yorky?)

[barren tapir]

yeah but i mean desyncing your bbs doesnt really matter, or shouldnt anyway

[sharp socket]

ply tash sandy since apparently ply is tankable

[barren tapir]

anyway vg pressure is once again nonexistent so that's nice

[crisp raven]

you can tap on the scan button to see. im fairly certain they are though, but it doesnt matter too much eithre way as long as the zone gets secured.

[storm heron]

There's no leaderboard in CM right? so I can do it later in the month

[barren tapir]

auto 7:26 normal, ok so sara is definitely out, and ill need to manual probably but should be able to do it today

[storm heron]

or should I do it now cause people might be gone and nobody's gonna talk about it

[wind hazel]

just do whenever you want...

[barren tapir]

im just doing it now cos its fun theres no rush

[clever lance]

Should we buy hidden zone data logger?

[barren tapir]

for quality of life yes otherwise no

[storm heron]

does hipper meta need to survive in the B3 boss battle? I just need to win the boss fight with her there in the beginning of the sortie right?

[stark quiver]

doesnt need to survive

[wind hazel]

how much second difference you want between soyuz and cat?

[fast steppe]

if I'm trying to sync with helena should I run champy gun or 457 and wait

[stark quiver]

p sure 1s works

[stark quiver]

youre gonna sync for only the first salvo with 457

[storm heron]

iirc they have to be as close as possible, leeway idk but should depend on the fight length

[fast steppe]

I can just hold on to the salvo until Helena procs right

[clever lance]

Should we buy all the classified mission loggers?

[stark quiver]

i mean yes? but why would you

[fast steppe]

for the damage boost

[bleak mica]

what would happen to redundant number of a META girl crystal? Converted into crystal fragment?

[fast steppe]

or does holding on to the salvo just make it not worth anymore

[stark quiver]

what fight is this for

[fast steppe]

taihou meta

[plain saffron]

If you're holding to sync with helena why not just use champy gun

[fast steppe]

does champy gun deal more in that case

[plain saffron]

It have more dmg per salvo over 457

[pale niche]

Are torpedo bombers always better than dive bombers for opsi boss?

[plain saffron]

Assuming both gun fires same amount of times. Champy deal more dmg.
And since you holding for helena, both fire same amount of time

[storm heron]

depends on armor type

[plain saffron]

You can't hold 2 charge like CV other than on few BB

[storm heron]

what else other than alsus?

oh richie nvm she's 1 max charge

[midnight flower]

For mob main tank, should I use yat sen kai with an shan or laffey2/noshiro/mainz with an shan/reisalin

D3 forced labor btw

[fast steppe]

this is with hsfcr VG table uvh SG Helena, should I stick to this or use black shell

[storm heron]

it shouldn't matter

[nocturne glade]

should I just take sandy and hood?

[whole crypt]

sure why not

[midnight flower]

Uhh?

[nocturne glade]

nice, I guess ill get lusty from beginner rewards then

[whole crypt]

Enterprise?

[nocturne glade]

got from last month's

[storm heron]

just use whoever you want to level, or choose whoever is high-leveled. Assuming they are all level 100, it shouldn't matter who you pick between them

[whole crypt]

you can't begin to imagine how inconsequental it is, the stage is really easy just take anything that survies and you want to XP on

[violet oracle]

buffs and debuffs in this game are multiplicative, not additive, right?

[whole crypt]

depends on the actual buff/debuff and where it applies

[storm heron]

some buffs are additive, some are multiplicative to each other

[sharp socket]

CM can have 101 bars of hp

[violet oracle]

well that doesn't help if they're not consistent when im min/maxing. general rule of thumb would be "increase/decrease by" = multiplicative?

[wind hazel]

if anyone wanna copy homework but fritz isn't ready 💀 https://mrlar.dev/s/43623974d91bfb6c34eb292bb9eeffe6f0d8cdd7

[stark quiver]

what time mori

[sharp socket]

p close, more hp auxes and should be fine

[wind hazel]

i forgot to summon subs

[fleet berry]

Just started tracking my gold plates income, what is the typical income for active players? I heard that ~600 excluding guild shop and blank plates, and closer to ~750 if I include them.

[wind hazel]

i saw 10hp bar and press sub, but she exploded

[sharp socket]

i love when pic dont send

[stark quiver]

what if my nakh isnt ready 💀

[storm heron]

how many of this are AA and torp gold plates?

[wind hazel]

enterprise+slow/freeze yeehaw

[clever lance]

Should we buy all the classified mission files?

[storm heron]

yeehaw what

[fleet berry]

200-250 are AA + torps.

[wind hazel]

just go BB at that point, BB should perform similarly

i think having scylla make this cm a lot easier than not

[whole crypt]

what are you trying to minmax though

[fast steppe]

do these timings look ok?

[stark quiver]

yea i did 3 bb, ended up with like a 6:06, kinda embarassing time but

[storm heron]

if you need the UR prints sure, they are 1 time so it might be unoptimal long term to grab them all at once

[wind hazel]

as long as clear, the time doesn't matter imo

[violet oracle]

For the upcoming OpSi I''m running all USN ships, trying to optimize and maximize value and team comps by who buffs and debuffs who

[storm heron]

sync looks ok

[late flame]

faction fleet is a lie, just saying

[whole crypt]

congratulations, you don't even need to think about minmaxing then because the buffs are probably going to be worse than just picking the best possible USS ships for the fleet

[storm heron]

I mean if you want to do that, you can ask like "how does buff A and buff B stacks?"

[fast steppe]

somehow my hakuryuu with parallel torps and completely out of sync with helena is dealing the most dmg

[storm heron]

anyways helena's +40% enemy damage taken debuff and z52's 5% damage taken debuff stacks additively right?

[whole crypt]

Taihou META fight has spawns that probably easy to be caught by parallel torps and bombing AOE

[fast steppe]

oh right the spawns

do the spawns contribute to boss dmg though

[soft dagger]

multi

[storm heron]

that's insane

what about ply's +18% damage bonus and 5% damage taken

[sharp socket]

shield is annoying

[soft dagger]

5% damage taken from z52 is injureratio so its multiplicative with anything, including ply hunter/injureratio

[storm heron]

is that information on wiki?

[soft dagger]

yes

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations ask the pros who which buff/debuff goes where

namely which part of this mess

[wind hazel]

hmm yes... i understand some of these words...

[whole crypt]

or this if planes

[storm heron]

good thing I have a bunch of ships so I don't need to worry too much about that and can just copy homework for what works

but interesting read

, regardless

[jade ibex]

Is there a better alternative than Voro to trigger Nakhimov slow?

[storm heron]

tashkent, soyuz if you mean nakh's freeze

nakh's slow is automatic

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

Wheres my damage

Wait I found out why

[storm heron]

can't you like reach 3 M damage from each ship if you stall the battle long enough?

[hollow gust]

Does she have healing?

[storm heron]

yeah she has the shield healing

[hollow gust]

Anyway found out my Fritz was getting revealed

[storm heron]

if you have lower damage then your time should be better

[hollow gust]

Her damage wasn’t as I was expecting

Fritz should be doing a lot more then Nahkimov here

[storm heron]

really though? isn't buffed nakhimov pretty broken

there comes the doubt

[atomic abyss]

What was Capricorn again

[storm heron]

an astrological sign and constellation that represents the goat

[sweet delta]

If you give them 1 la9 each, then nakhi does more DMG because of soyuz Russian avi. Otherwise fritz does more

And fritz perma reveals herself like Shinano and haku

[hollow gust]

Does the CN thing account for Soyuz buff?

[rose whale]

event end tmr right?

thanks

[storm heron]

but but in the sheets nakh is 6 while rumey is 5...

[hollow gust]

The CN calculation thingy

[lofty zodiac]

For sub fleet wolfpack U96 U37 and U101 are good to start building for w15?

[sweet delta]

Yes they're good, but are they your best?

[atomic abyss]

Oh weird eyes carrier

[hollow gust]

This thingy

[storm heron]

I mean buffed nakh 6, but fritz is 5, but maybe because tentative?

[sweet delta]

That is JP, and they don't say, but assume that is non soyuz but activated by vanguard Nakhi

[lofty zodiac]

No u81 or u47 and no flasher for fish so...

[sweet delta]

Then go ahead

[hollow gust]

Oh well I can’t prevent my carriers from getting revealed

[sweet delta]

There's no evidence to make me change that yet. 5 for activated nakh, 5 for fritz, 6 for soyuzed nakh

[atomic abyss]

Sth sth needs more testing

[hollow gust]

I pulled out a 3:32 , I’ll take it

[rapid grail]

kk

[storm heron]

seems like this CM gonna take longer than the warspite one

[atomic abyss]

Considering it's literally been 2h 14mins since it came out

I'm not sure what's the rush

[upbeat wagon]

What does anything mean 😭

[sweet delta]

All the heavy CMs are piñatas basically

For top end players*

[atomic abyss]

Dps chart assuming best in slot gear

[jaunty vault]

whats a pinatas

[sweet delta]

Latin American version of Japanese watermelon

I think

[jaunty vault]

so expensive fruit

[storm heron]

it is unicorn with candies inside

[hollow gust]

Well technically not a unicorn traditionally , it’s just a hard paper shell filled with with many types of goodies

[violet oracle]

In Alabama's 2nd skill, do the FP buffs have a shared or separate limit of 7?

[hollow gust]

But yeah Fritz being perma revealed is really hurting the damage , maybe it’s AA instead of CL gun time

[storm heron]

why is CL gun prefered over AA gun again? I thought this is single target or something

[thin nova]

is Mainz still good guys?

[hollow gust]

Shes fine, just that everything new does what she does but better

[sweet delta]

That's a good question, I put cl gun to hit shields but the skill griefed that idea

[hollow gust]

Whelp time to do some karma farming on Reddit

[thin nova]

can expect that

[hollow gust]

Bayard is a better Mainz

[thin nova]

dont have enough tech point, the closest one I can raise now is Mainz

[humble tapir]

is there anyway to change opsi fleets?

[thin nova]

it will take me forever to have enough for this small faction

[thin nova]

yes, go to ship yard and you can

[wind hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[humble tapir]

crazy gif 😭😭 thx guys

[hollow gust]

[thin nova]

is this gun any good?

sadge

[sweet delta]

Link my guide in a comment while you're at it

[whole crypt]

[thin nova]

I should take the Q one right?

does max limited break a meta ship increase faction tech point?

[hollow gust]

Yeah Fritz is slightly weaker then Soyuz buffed Nahkimov, I ran this is normal , Fritz was fully concealed

[hollow gust]

Which one

[whole crypt]

yes, but METAs are their own faction, so Taihou META when you MLB her will give you META faction tech, not IJN

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/challenge-mode/

Is your fritz after nakhi

[thin nova]

oh, sadge, I has been trying to get more KMS tech points lately

[hollow gust]

Yeah

Wait no shes not

One sec , I'm kinda half dead rn

Yeah nahk is first then Soyuz then Fritz

[sweet delta]

When your strike overkills into the shield, the later carrier dumps more into the damage reduction that comes with the shield

[elfin hollow]

guys how do you grind the EXP points in Developing ships? Just battle away until the 1,000,000 EXP mark is filled?

[sweet delta]

Just farm the usual oil cap maps

[hollow gust]

My Soyuz desyncs eventually so she becomes last

[elfin hollow]

oh thanks thanks ❤️

[light trail]

whats the feelings on z-52 so far? in like, 1-3 words

[whole crypt]

assuming I want to just use 1 fleet for light/med would it be better off being Kearsarge/Yorktown II/(Rumey/Nakhimov) or Soyuz/Nakhimov/(?)

[thin nova]

perfect - Jimmy said

[whole crypt]

does everything

[light trail]

i love the sound of that

vanguard ships dont have any sorta timing to worry about maintaining right? unlike main fleet syncing

[hollow gust]

Both should honestly oneshot

[thin nova]

btw, I heard Z-52 uses the fast gun the best

[whole crypt]

she can (mob) tank, does decent damage, has good AA, has a universal damage buff

[thin nova]

even tho her main gun eff is quite high

[whole crypt]

yeh but her barrage is very good

also cost consideration, gold 113 is much cheaper than rainbow guns

[thin nova]

[light trail]

this is good right

ok sick

[whole crypt]

though I'd put a better AA gun on her if you have one

[thin nova]

which stat her barrage based on

[bold cove]

The STAGG or UR aa right?

[thin nova]

FP is it?

[whole crypt]

well I'll be redoing fleets after Taihou is done leveling skills so just thinking out loud what to swap for next

[light trail]

twin staag good?

[whole crypt]

she's fine with all the strong AA guns, no real point using STAAG
FP gun is good but preferably not if you want AA

she gains very little with STAAG for that matter

[light trail]

these + a trash can are all i have for gold AA guns

roomba then?

[whole crypt]

roombas are fine if you want AA, sextuple is fair game too and I have no idea why you put it on Agir

[hollow gust]

Also it really does feel like CL gun is better then AA gun, I’m not getting that much better conceal with the AA

[light trail]

largely based off of ectl builds

[whole crypt]

another victim

[hollow gust]

I should max out a the German CL gun for Fritz

[light trail]

i havent thought about AA guns too much considering i've very often heard here "they dont really make too much difference outside of w13+"

[whole crypt]

is there something she gets using the KMS gun instead

[storm heron]

+13 felix gun for fritz?

[light trail]

what do u suggest i put on agir then?

[whole crypt]

well if you only have one sextuple she's not going to be the one carrying your AA

[light trail]

that's not what i asked about

[whole crypt]

the 90mm I guess

[storm heron]

yea the twin90mm

[whole crypt]

staag isn't the worst gun on her if you want to cope hit as well

[light trail]

dont think i own one of those looking at my depot

[light trail]

ah tyty

[hollow gust]

Can't wait to get another LA-9

[nocturne glade]

should I level 10 skills one at a time or bring them to a lower level and 10 them later?

[hollow gust]

I always pump a rainbow book in each and they level to 10 but it honestly doesn't matter . You really won't be using them that fast

[whole crypt]

does Rumey have any interesting crossfleet?

hm 16s support barrage

[hollow gust]

This should work well enough , I will miss some of the support barrages though

[whole crypt]

how about dropping the anti-light just to keep the BBs around

[hollow gust]

Fuck that, I love my yorky

[whole crypt]

well to be fair none of the barrages matter for mobbing, they mostly just add to stronghold bosses or arb

[fast plaza]

who should i mlb next

[hollow gust]

Although realistically I can swap one of the fleets every 2 months for best performance

[whole crypt]

fast mob fleets aren't going to wait for support barrage for your average mob node

16s might come in for augmented pawns or stronghold side bosses

but is Rumey's cross barrage good?

[hollow gust]

First month I’m using her in opsi , never seemed her cross barrage

[whole crypt]

yeh well same, since you don't see it during leveling lol

[hollow gust]

I maxed her out in 3 days , and left her in dock till my skills are maxed

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

Musashi without question

[storm heron]

how do I know what kind of RPG procs at the beginning of the battle?

[rapid grail]

musashi -> vanguard -> option of fritz rumey for bossing or z52 for mobbing

yk2n should have same priority with rumey, assuming you get her shen yk2n reruns in 1 weeks

[fast plaza]

thanks guys

[elfin hollow]

so I finally MLB-ed Duis and Hipper meta.

Unicorn - Bismarck - Jean Bart
Hipper Meta - Duisburg - Hipper

would such fleet composition be okay?

[whole crypt]

not ideal but most of the game isn't hard enough to matter

[atomic abyss]

it's honestly meh to downright bad in some areas

[tame jungle]

carried by unicorn

[elfin hollow]

Three nodes in 7-1

and yep, y'all right somehow XD

[atomic abyss]

i mean, 7-1 is piss easy

and you're having issues because half your fleet is underlevelled

[elfin hollow]

oh yeah that's actually my mob fleet. I know i'm supposed to have fleet 2 only stage 9 onwards, but I gotta take the gems from clearing all stars XD

this one's F1

[atomic abyss]

uh what, you're mixing the end goal for the means

[late flame]

tbh if you are having issues with one fleet already..

[atomic abyss]

you go to w9 SO you can level a 2nd fleet

so you dont have to immediately spread out resources over 2 fleets

which has caused you issues, as you so found out to your cost

[elfin hollow]

I could actually feel it rn XD

[atomic abyss]

and with most of your ships being gold, im sure you've already run out of gold bulins and are running 2 LB or less ships

and that's ignoring the fact you dont even have good enough ships for a second fleet

you will "push" content for gems much faster for the time being if you focused your attention on 1 fleet

if your singular fleet is strong enough, you may even be able to push all the way to w12 even with just that

[elfin hollow]

Oh that makes sense

I was probably too aggressive. My concern was their mood so I considered using two fleets

I'll try to save my fleet 1 before next major event

[atomic abyss]

mood shd be irrelevant if you're pushing content

[storm heron]

wait apparently not all meta showdown is 80s

[atomic abyss]

rodney meta is the sole exception

[storm heron]

algM is 77 s

[atomic abyss]

and even then, you only can attack her in the final 10s (out of 90) if you have rodney in the team

[atomic abyss]

...you do know almost all battles have the 3s delay right

[storm heron]

oh lol I see

[atomic abyss]

bruh

as far as im aware, almost all battles have the 3s delay where your preload airstrike/BB salvos/torps cant fire

so functionally, nearly all metas have 77s

[storm heron]

is it not 1.5s though?

mrlar's thingy is 1.5s delay

[faint cloud]

The 1.5s in those tools and 3s in game confused me too

[barren tapir]

[strange sphinx]

well pre reloaded BB salvo is quite also intriguing, It needs some target to be fired for example, this D3 event crab

[barren tapir]

maybe they begin loading slightly before the UI becomes active?

for example, preloaded cv like unicorn will send an airstrike off before the boss appears and pauses the screen, so it makes me think 1.5s is the absolute cooldown and then ~2.25s is the UI cooldown?

77s doesnt mean 77s btw cos 0s still ticks for about 1s before timing you out, 77s means probably ~77.8s

[coarse heron]

you could check by screen recording an emulator

[strange sphinx]

actually that crab have like 2-3 seconds entrance frame and Alsace will just fire when the crab doesn't have that frame anymore, Alsace firing two barrage is quite fascinating

[barren tapir]

i dont really know tbh but theres probably a good reason for the 1.5s used

[tacit jasper]

is My Account Effed if i miss out on Fritz? (AL Collab was too good of a Bait)

these are the ones i already have.

[atomic abyss]

definitely not

you alr have stuff that fill her niche

[narrow ridge]

Who do I choose? I already have Belfast, Graf zep, formidable and Bismarck

[tacit jasper]

ok thank god... was a really worried since i've been hearing alot of Cummanders praising her & etc.

[atomic abyss]

that goes for any UR tho

[atomic abyss]

richy is the only one in this list that you dont have AND cannot be obtained outside build

[tacit jasper]

do you have anyone in there that you like personally? (not gameplay wise)

[narrow ridge]

Not really I already have Bismarck so the rest are not that important, I guess I’ll get Richelieu thanks!

[rapid grail]

does bayard consume less oil than sandy? wanna farm affection for her in the upcoming event rerun

[whole crypt]

no but they all cost the same when you run with oil cap

[rapid grail]

ah, sandy is 11 oil while bayard is 12 oil

i'll just run 1:1 then

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure why you'd want to do that but

[rapid grail]

i just don't like it when every event run does like 801 oil for 3 clears
i'd rather do 12-1 than that for abit more oil

[pallid vortex]

is this equip good for light bosses? planning to replace flapjack with bf109

[rapid grail]

converging tb like saiun is good
swordfish if you can afford it, though its not recommended
when yk2n reruns in a week, speedrun to d3 and farm the fuck out of the HVAR Hellcat prints. they're the best option against light armor when it comes to light armopr bossing

[whole crypt]

yes but you could also just bring other ships that can use the XP
unless you're planning to burn more oil than you will have stocked

[whole crypt]

not really but if you don't have skyraider and rocketcat then you're not going to get much better with Enterprise on light

[pallid vortex]

so hvar for 1st slot and sauin for third slot?

[whole crypt]

which boss is that for specifically

[pallid vortex]

opsi

[rapid grail]

oh yeah i forgot about skyraider
and yeah that's that. bf-109g can work for now

[whole crypt]

besides Temperance all light armour bosses in OS are jokes

[atomic abyss]

Gold PRs always cost 1 more oil than golds of the same hull

[spring bolt]

it's 2025 now, temperance is also a joke

[whole crypt]

you may have better mileage using BBs with HE guns

unless you're using Enterprise with Kearsarge/Yorktown II

[pallid vortex]

i have 1 heavy fleet which is hakuryuu aamgi cv not sure who to use for third slot
other is fdg vanguard and enterprise

[atomic abyss]

No shinano?

[pallid vortex]

dont have a single copy yet

these are my ships if it helps

was planning to use these teams for opsi

[atomic abyss]

I would rather you consolidate the CVs together

[pallid vortex]

so hakuryuu amagi enterprise?

then vanguard fdg and musashi?

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure Musashi/Hakuryuu/Amagi will kill light bosses fine

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Use august over enty if you need a freeze

[whole crypt]

consolidating them only matters if you're also bringing the carrier buffers

is that AvP FS5

[pallid vortex]

yup fs5
is this team good enough to clear arbiter hard?

[whole crypt]

use Hakuryuu/Amagi/AvP
that plus the BB fleet should maim harb in 2 fights even if you can't oneshot

also you might want to start working on awakening ships to 125

[pallid vortex]

so hakuryuu amagi avp
vanguard fdg and musashi?
idk who is important to get to 125 first

[whole crypt]

all the rainbow main fleets for a start

[pallid vortex]

i have enough to get them all to 125 currentlyt

so is enterprise not needed now?

[whole crypt]

nope

[pallid vortex]

or can i make a third fleet with enty fritz and yk2

[whole crypt]

well I don't see Yorktown II anywhere so I assume you don't have her yet, worry about that when you have her

or if she's not leveled worry about it after leveling

[pallid vortex]

yeah i heard its coming next week. ill be able to get her and mlb

just want to confirm. cv fleets are for light/med and bb is for heavy right?

[whole crypt]

they're all good for all armour types, it's just which carriers, which BBs and changing up gear

[pallid vortex]

got it. i'll look up more on how to gear them

thank you all for the help

[turbid dawn]

Whats the best fleet for this months CM?

[wind hazel]

soyuz cat fritz

[upbeat wagon]

What does CM mean?

[wind hazel]

crystal maiden challenge mode

[turbid dawn]

I'm not wasiting my exp packs on getting fritz to 125, what about VG? I'm presuming just bullet spammers bcs of the shield ability?

[wind hazel]

yes, plymouth scylla etc

i used yk2 instead of fritz, works good

[turbid dawn]

Don't have YkII either

[wind hazel]

[turbid dawn]

Her+Implac only UR ships im missing now

[upbeat wagon]

Is stat increase with level linear?

[wind hazel]

wait until your fritz is ready then

or use triple BB

[fading wadi]

are my fleets outdated? (I came back after a break during Guam's banner)
I don't have the newest ships like Amagi CV, Soyuz, Alsace nor Mogador.
(I changed the main line on the first fleet for both light armour bosses and mobbing)

[jaunty vault]

they're fine as long as you kill harby

[fading wadi]

is harby the boss in the center of the map?

[jaunty vault]

hard arbiter, yes

[fading wadi]

ah okok
yeah, I can do hard mode

[jaunty vault]

there's also normal arbiter in the centre

then it's fine

[fading wadi]

epic 💪

oh yeah, just wanted to be sure, are Kazagumo and Sirius still a good pair for CV fleets?

I've changed the main tank a few times since none of the proper tanks buff CVs (as far as I know)

[jaunty vault]

yes

[fading wadi]

👍

[turbid dawn]

Actually wasn't that difficult, just built the fleet based off this current meta fight and got a 5m6s kill

[crisp tree]

Is Fritz good for a general use story clearing team?

[whole crypt]

how general is your general

[crisp tree]

Story and events, Sp Ex and Hard mode (Hard mode for Story) not included

[whole crypt]

events up to SP doesn't even need rainbows
campaign doesn't really matter up till ch13

[crisp tree]

So I can just slap anyone as long as I built them well into a team and get away with it till chapter 13?

That's nice, though that means I don't have an excuse to why I still don't have chapter 10 done

Anyways, for a fleet with Shinano and Musashi would the free UR destroyer this event or Shimakaze be better?

Assuming I also don't have enough Sakura empire ships to proc Shinanos buff

[whole crypt]

levels, LB, gearing

[whole crypt]

the new one if you have her leveled and LB'd
but I think you have bigger issues with fleetbuilding overall than just picking shinies

[crisp tree]

Alright, and yeah Im still learning about Fleet building that was more a hypothetical question since I have both but both aren't built

[barren barn]

How to get core data

[novel solstice]

Do hard mode levels 3x per day. Highest one your fleets can manage.

[barren barn]

Ty

[fast steppe]

should I take the middle one if I already have 3 copies of the gun or refresh

[vale spindle]

since ur on pr4 focus the pr4 g412 is fine to take

[fast steppe]

could use the coins though

[vale spindle]

if you know you are gonna be gone for 24 hours for holiday related things you can even take the 12 hour one

[fast steppe]

but ig 1.5k isn't much

[vale spindle]

then you can put down the game without worry and touch grass

[lofty zodiac]

How many HVAR hellcat is good to have?

[random rain]

hello, should I do the 1-hour commissions to maximize the time given during the event?

[atomic abyss]

...6 would be the best best

[atomic abyss]

Why would 1h maximise the time given?

Your total duration is still the same lol

[lofty zodiac]

Starting from 0 look irealistic hehe

[vale spindle]

the points / hour is the same no matter the commission

[atomic abyss]

In fact with 1h you have it worse if you don't maintain the 100% uptime

[random rain]

oh so thats how it works, I thought they give points based on the number of commissions done, not the points/hour

[frank pulsar]

what armour is this ex?

[storm heron]

heavy

[atomic abyss]

You get 2.5 from the event last time so uh, I guess aim to farm the other 1.5?

[storm heron]

0 eva too

literally just a damage check

[fading wadi]

what's a good evasion stat (more or less) to where I can replace the hydraulic steering gear with more hp items

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is
If you're a CL/CA/CB you always use rudder + toolbox
If you're a DD, almost always double HP

[fading wadi]

fair enough 👍

[barren barn]

What skills should i up for Bismarck zwei

[storm heron]

when is EX leaderboard updated? every hour?

[atomic abyss]

As with any ships you use, all of them to level 10

[versed dagger]

Any changes i could make? I have all of the URs, but Amagi cv, Z52 and Fritz aren't leveled up

[dusk maple]

check the fine print written on the leaderboard

[storm heron]

I'll have to wait 1 hour

[atomic abyss]

For now
Alsace replaces FdG
Musashi replaces the slot left by Alsace
Helena replaces Shima
Laffey 2 replaces the slot left by Helena
Shima and Mog end up in mob alongside Unzen
Ignore fleet 4

Also, rebuild your sub fleet, it's ass

Only thing good there is 47

[fading wadi]

is helena not as good for CV fleets?

[frank pulsar]

harder to use with cv, cuz timing is much tighter
bb also doesnt have as much option as cv for buffing

[fading wadi]

true, planes take longer to land damage

[atomic abyss]

Simply put
The average airstrike timing is around 22s
If you throw in things like skyraider and tenrai, it can reach 23s
By strike 3 you hit 66-69s
Helena's debuff expires by 70s

[fading wadi]

is my laffey 2 fine where she is (mobbing/light armour bossing fleet)

[fading wadi]

yeah too tight 😭

[frank pulsar]

make laffii tank and noshiro off tank

[fading wadi]

ooh oki

she tanks more than noshi? :o

[frank pulsar]

also, if youre planning on using the fleet for light then drop noshi and unzen for dps like mog or hinden imho
yes laffii is 147% portland, noshiro is 103% portland

[fading wadi]

should I swap any of these 3 vanguards with someone else, or are they fine where they are? just wondering what kind of alternatives there are without downgrading

[fading wadi]

haven't got mogador, but I've got hinden (she's still at dev lv 29 tho 😭 )

[frank pulsar]

then drop noshiro for hinden when shes dev30
your vanguards for your ijn cv fleet is fine

[fading wadi]

I stopped playing after pulling guam from her own banner

[fading wadi]

will do

[frank pulsar]

maybe slot in yr unzen in a boss fleet and put sandy in mob, unzen mob feels kinda overkill imho

[fading wadi]

when I do replace noshi with hinden, should I make hinden the tank?

[frank pulsar]

no, hinden is 2/3 of laffii as a tank

[fading wadi]

is there enough AA in opsi to really need sandy?

[fading wadi]

well shiiii-

[frank pulsar]

nah, its for dmg
her dmg with aug is very good

[fading wadi]

oooh, didn't know she was a dps too 😭

my discord is lagging so hard for no reason

[novel solstice]

Sandy is all-around good. She's Numba One!

[frank pulsar]

sandy is one of our best cl overall atm now that she has an aug

[fading wadi]

dang that aug really changed her up huh

[brave trail]

dawg what is happening 😭😭

[south sequoia]

the boss was already defeated by someone else, exit the screen and come back

[brave trail]

thats what i did

i also tried removing the tab

lemme try again

[south sequoia]

Did you close and re-open your game yet?

[wet badge]

Whats commision exchange

[south sequoia]

You do commissions and you earn bonus points to redeem stuff from store

[wet badge]

What are the rewards

[brave trail]

finally it worked breh

ty

[wet badge]

How much does 1 commision give

[novel solstice]

If you are moderately active, you should have zero trouble earning plenty of commission-merits to buy out all the cubes, so don't worry about optimizing that.

[wet badge]

Then how do i afford to buy out all the cubes

That doesnt sound alot

[exotic wren]

It'll last for uh 3 months tho

[wet badge]

O ok

Yo can someone also give me the shipyard research academy guide thing

[exotic wren]

Which

Cus shipyard, research, and academy are 3 different things

[wet badge]

Rsearch****

[lunar arrow]

How good is z52 off fleet barrage?

[fading wadi]

o yeah what about for light armour? or are surface torps in general better on medium/heavy armour?

[atomic abyss]

There are light armour torps
But just use your BBs for anti light

[atomic abyss]

There are only 4 other vanguards with crossfleets

She's definitely one of the better ones to use

Realistically you actually use her in battle tho
She's that cracked

[lunar arrow]

Who is 4 one, Shimakaze, Kronshtadt and who is the last on?

[atomic abyss]

Unzen and Guam

[lunar arrow]

I need to check number,first two way more noticeable than the last two

[frank pulsar]

in general for vanguards, torps are better against heavy and guns are better for light
there are torps that are meant for light though

[storm heron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[rapid bobcat]

I'm trying to complete OpSi objectives, but how do I do stuff like "Use the Siren Data Logging Tower" or "Restore 3 Energy Matrices to their correct position"? Do I need to repeatedly enter same zone over and over in hopes that it will randomly spawn those for me, or is there a better way?

[storm heron]

yes

there's no better way

[rapid bobcat]

Oh brother.

[storm heron]

I mean you'll eventually get them

the rewards are not much either

[rapid bobcat]

I'm just a completionist.

[storm heron]

oh damn yea

[tame jungle]

i hope you're also a patientist

[rapid bobcat]

hardly.

[storm heron]

since 2019™️

it took me a month or so just to complete one c5 zone to max stars among doing other stuff

[summer timber]

For CM of Jan, why is 388 mm better than the UR ones?

[eternal basalt]

It takes around 2 years to complete those opsi stars, so good luck

[storm heron]

oh hi there 5 musashi guy

lemme see...

[summer timber]

You just saw 5? XD

[storm heron]

what 388mm?

what gun is that?

[summer timber]

The recommended gun for 1st position of BB

[wary hawk]

the 380?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_380mm_(Mle_1935_Prototype)

[storm heron]

so biszwei is faster than soyuz and alsace

[summer timber]

Yes, this one, my apologies.

[storm heron]

that gun (flandre's gun) is better than the UR ones simply because of the timing. You want all the BBs to sync with helena's 20s while still doing lots of damage to the boss.

UR triple 406 mk 6 is HE so damage is not as good as AP guns, while UR twin 458 has low cooldown and won't sync

[fading wadi]

better than this gun? triple 406?

[wary hawk]

Different purposes

[storm heron]

Why different purposes?

[fading wadi]

which one would you say is better for auto-bossing all around OpSi

[storm heron]

those guns functions about the same

[wary hawk]

I meant different purposes in the context of Suchi's challenge mode comps

[summer timber]

Do you recommend BisZwei+Nakhimov+Yorktown, then?

[wary hawk]

This was in the conversation of this comp for challenge mode

[fading wadi]

so you mean like niche?

[bold stream]

Hello all. Is this the best generic set up for rumey on w12 going to w13?

[summer timber]

I mean, in this one.

[storm heron]

In this particular CM, I don't know why suchi uses flandre gun instead of champagne gun tbh, maybe there's something wrong about my assumption

[tame jungle]

no because bf109 is fucking worthless in campaign

[fast steppe]

what gun does fritz want

[bold stream]

Hnnn... What planes should she have?

[tame jungle]

just follow the gear guide, flex slot wyvern if you have it

[bold stream]

These are all the planes I have

[storm heron]

Maybe flan gun is slower than champagne gun

[fading wadi]

if you're using fritz for bossing, you'll probably want to use the prototype that unicorn is using on fritz

[storm heron]

otherwise if not, idk why flan gun was used (I assumed flan gun is faster before)

[storm heron]

nah, it depends on the boss, that plane can deal less damage than bf109g

[fading wadi]

fr?

[wind hazel]

to sync with helena

[fading wadi]

I mean, the bf109g only has a 40% armour mod against heavy

[frank pulsar]

its a heavy armour plane, and its single target with low accuracy
not a good plane for campaign

[bold stream]

What can be my set up for her then?

[fading wadi]

more for bossing tho, not mobbing

[storm heron]

you don't even use fritz for heavy in the first place

[fading wadi]

so she's for medium armour?

[frank pulsar]

bf109g is a rocket plane thats single target, and also does not intercept
which makes it also not good for campaign

[storm heron]

medium and light armor

[fading wadi]

huh

[bold stream]

So double seafang?

[frank pulsar]

regardless, itll likely whiff without a stop/slow support

[storm heron]

for heavy armor plenty of options are better

[fading wadi]

so she could go with yorktown 2 and kearsarge?