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What’s tex support?
^
more leaning to T0 untagged
TEX but on the condition that she's being used for her support capabilities
I agree with Suchi's ratings
shes tex when utilizing her support abilities to their fullest
I'm kinda lucky since the only place I find eld inconsistent is when my eld get one shot by enemy's alsace
Tier level: tEx > t0; support means she needs to be using her skills to be that tier
Oh I was reading it was tex. Was supposed to be Tier EX my bad

why is she only d in ex tho, won't she help a bit with rng dodging or is it that the rating refers only to hard ex and score?
ex means highest score
Her skills are useless in EX lol
Game features disabled them
rainbow is disa bled in hard EX
And normal ex is too easy to care
not in easy tho, right?
ok,yeah then d is accurate if hard ex
idk. but while shes prolly good in normal/easy EX no one but newbies care about that cos its brainless unless you're new
can u get score?
In normal? No
also since its endgame tierlist so they only care about hard EX cos endgame steamrolls normal EX
even 3 month old player does
imagine getting #3ed by renhex
i mean, ex stage for event like roma has no hard mode, but is much more difficult than normal ex imo; i had that kind of ex stage in mind
old event only have hard EX
oh, that's why
, i was only able to bring her to 20%
What’s optimal gear for Eldridge
standard dd gear
100 Kai, imp quad, ur AA toolbox , whatever defense gear
eldridge is kinda sus with gearing
wdym?
i mean hard to see what kinda gun works for ger, aux can be flexible
Twin 100 Kai would be more than enough
gotta look at the tl for the hierarchy
Can technically get first , but too much rng involved
oh, i thought the gun for her was fast reload, but great fp compromise so rainbow dd gear lab was best?
Waiting 24s is pain

we are getting 10 or 20 more UR vouchers from dailies?

tuesday and wednesday so 20
update is on thursday
ok so if i have 280 now i'll be good then
just keep points and spend them all after the update, less stressful solution
well yes but just want to make sure so i can safely stop farming event and go back to my home 12-4 
ifk i would not do that
I remember a meta ship being unobtainable after event ends although the shop was open, it was patched wuickly but still fear
just casually hit 100k points
i decided to do it the day of the update since before i did it after the event at random , but once forgot with 20k points unspent
Hey guys, my 2nd day playing...I'm doing the new event (i saw z52's kit and she seems SO strong), and am trying to grind the UR vouchers. I finally managed to barely clear b3 (the SP stage wont unlock...i'm assuming its because I have to clear all the stages with 3 stars?), would my best way to grind the UR vouchers just to auto spam a3 over and over again, to buy the UR vouchers from the shop? The B stages are still kind of rough for me to auto. I did the daily/challenges too as much as I can.
Between d3 and 12-4 which is better for affinity grinding
the cheaper one id assume
Idk if I get more affinity for higher stages so 
no its fixed
to access SP you need to clear D3, hard mode of B3 which I presume you can't do
anyway, try getting B3 down to safe and grind there
Make sure you do the minigame, which will leave you with 95 more tokens needed. I think you can do the daily missions for the next 2 days (15 total, including today)to leave you with 80 more required. You could loop b3 for a while to get the necessary tokens.
only 2 more days on the event
Will look for the minigame! thanks so much
its just under the events tab; i dont even do the minigame for the full time i quit out after a second and it counts as an attempt to get rewards
ahh gotcha! Ty ^^
fixed
Bruh I spent all my oil on 12-4 
you need to clear D3 not B3 to unlock SP
also in regards to how to get to D
aren't they 2nd day players
is hipper meta good
She’s ok
nothing too special
anyone have a good z52 build they can share or know another ship that is similar that I can use as a reference?\
Blue 76 if you lack the gold gun
for bossing if i dont have an la-9 what plane do i use in amagi's 1st slot? helldiver? or flapjack
depends on boss
if it's not heavy, you can try using bfg
for heavy/maihou
use hvars vs light
bf vs med
tenrai vs heavy
tenrai > helldiver then
then double tb in the other 2 slots right
Well ye, conv TB
uhh does it matter to have them be the same e.g. can i use ryusei+saiun, it's just a timing issue?
Hello fellow commanders. I wanted to start the game but I see I've missed ur laffey. Any chance of her returning?
ideally you would want the third slot (the one with 3 x 160 planes) have a bigger tb than the second slot, but consider timing issue too
Yah, give it a year
at least a year from now
Anything for laffey
so this would work with Helena right, but desyncs for the 3rd strike
THANKS!! Imma go slave the game now
hold on let's see
She first ran last year
at earliest mid/late next year is my best guesstimate 
Enough time to save 
Make it faster
so second strike
1.5s (stage delay) + 2* 22.92s = 47.34
ryuusei's torp takes 3.5 s, so no sync unfortunately
First off, what is this for
ok so if i dont have the timing aux i have to swap the ryusei for another saiun kai?
heavy boss/maihou
idk if that's gonna be enough
Try it out
oh yea try looking at the numbers
tbh it's a minor optimization but oh well, not like it takes any gold plates
yeah i'll just mess with the calculator first
how long do other torps take to land if ryusei is 3.5sec
You know she was free from her event right?
I've yet to start & sm1 told me I missed her UR
She’s shop UR
Oh
There's enough time to save for every UR in the game
This game is only a gacha for those that dont do dailies
depends on the enemy's distance, but you can generalize it to Saiun 3.5, ryuusei 4, ju87d 4, vit2 4.5
uh what, what are "builders"
omg what 4.5s 
Idk why it auto corrected to build
they're not required but they're free resources for minimal effort so I don't know why you'd ignore them
oh are there no cats in meta showdown 
Hi, does this also give double the ships xp or is just for clear rewards?
Ehhh sometimes I forget the game exist & know guilds don't like that
doubles everything
you get everything (including morale loss) as if you did 2 runs, it just saves time
Oh ok nice, i need to farm some ships exp for shipyard data collection
yea guilds leader be not online for 1 year but when we inactive for 3 days we just get kicked
well, now may not be the time; hvar is more important
how important do you guys says hvar for new player?
whats the coin soft cap limit?
whatever's written there
i mean, he can farm hvar and exp pr for ships in 9 days
true true, I was just asking if a new player you know... should like try lowcosting d3
Why is the purple SB2C helldiver better than all the yellow dive bombers?
it does more damage than all of them, pretty simple
depends on a, if they can, and b are they willing to commit to such a grind
Yeah but how does it do more damage is the question XD
it got better numbers
you can call it developer oversight. they forgot to give the good bombs to the yellow ones
a combination of bomb damage and hit rate of said bombs
K… brb
oops i mean the hardcap
600k
similar to how the purple 406 mk6 outperforms a lot of the gold bb guns
it has just better numbers/stats, nothing terribly complicated about it
or in other words, as other explanations in the game is, by math
So is this the best I can do?
Can a fleet in opsi recover resolve for another fleet?
no
give her z52 a faster gun, a better anti air,
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_76mm_(3"/50_caliber_gun)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0
use this gun on Z52
They’re ok, prolly not as useful
… not that one again Xd
what is the range of that AA gun on z52 ?
This hurts my soul a little XD
Idk
poor
give her these AA guns, the higher the better
30?
anyway, use this AA gun on Z52
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_113mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0
I don't think abdou is asking you in particular there, dw about it
and I meant no as a response to "So is this the best I can do?"
so with this 2nd strike would be 46.26
with 3.5secs for saiuns to land, so should work?
Is that good now?
the blue version not the grey version
There is one?
yes
it should be, there are a bit of leeway too
but then how's the other CV even gonna do, if the fastest CV use 2 saiuns

at that point might as well just stop trying to sync to helena and use something else no?
do you have any better vanguard?
for rumey u want to put on her the standard fighter for mobbing which is the golden hellcat or the purple f4u corsair
although the seafang can work too but me no like it so much because of the lower aa abilities
cheeky have you dropped Mipper from the event?
who farms D3 for 65k got like 4/4 crystal for some reason, but
who farms B3 for 75k haven't got any Mipper. Or am I missing something?
ectl ranks gold 2x500lb over purple corsair 
seafang is better than corsair in AA ? 
you were saying?
do ppl minmax fighter AA?
last 2 columns are AA DPS and burst
yeah i was thinking just use seafang for more avi stat tbh
they all get replaced by flapjack later on for both aa and bombs for campaign regardless
I haven't gotten a Hipper drop from B3 no
ig you can argue you can regain the corsair plates 
welp maybe there's a bug or the chance is jsut exponentially small for some reason
and i can confirm i've gotten 6 mippers farming d3 
but this assumes they have a corsair, theyre strangely rare from boxes
yep
And let's be real
You are more likely to have purple corsairs than gold hellcats/seafangs anyways

i have 6 corsairs/flapjacks, 4 seafangs, 0 hellcats 
are there anything like guide to what to do at what level and what to avoid
i have ummm more combined hellcat+seafang than i do purple corsair...
even counting the flapjacks i made from them
80% of gears from gold tech boxes are purple

So naturally, you get more corsairs
wdym no, i literally do
its so weird but yeah
yeah TBH i didn't find luck with corsaire too 
If you have more hellcats don't complain
ty
but there are many purple uss weapon and only a few gold uss weapon
Misclick 
iirc i have 3 hellcat, 3 seafang, 3 flapjacks and 1 corsair 
If you have the liberty to be crafting flapjacks
Surely you have enough boxes lying around to open 
honestly true, i stopped opening purples a while ago
What’s the drop chances
also isn't it 15 85?
15 85 for gold box yea
tech boxes tell u their chances now
You have an 80% chance of getting a purple gear from opening gold boxes iirc
Fine 85%
25 75 for purple box 
So the maff already makes sense
I haven’t opened any tech boxes for actual gear since 2022 
Anybody know the stat requirements for the Businesswoman TB? 
The what
whats Musashi's skill leveling priority?
who is this
but u are new though 
Luna
Luna from the DoA collab
Luna from the DOA collab
Should I build Baltimore?
I need another CL
All ships you use shd have max skills
So it doesn't really matter what order you level them in
Barrage first tho ig
Maybe
She's a CA not CL

sure then Ill go do barrage first, any unique equipment preference? Or do I just chuck in the usual meta and the black and white shell?
equipped off
If you read her skills she REALLY wants a japanese main gun
So purple twin 410
Rest the standard
my memory was right
6 to 4 ratio
purple twin 410? Not the musashi gun?
Musashi gun is ass lmao
no
...dq fuq is that first one? 
Flapjack
Yeah i wouldn't even know the gold hellcat exists if it wasn't for this chat 
pancake
whales
Get to crafting tigercats then 
i swear it looks like a whale to me lol
the japanese nickname for it is pankeeki
Meh
What were the tigercat mats again
Something something fox mine something something
not T2 Ordinance reports
Glory glory electronics
Electronics 
where did ur electronics go 
into my 2nd wyvern 
I mean you're the one with a billion hellcats that's why I suggested
can confirm
wait until u want to craft the french aa gun 
meh, by that point you should be swimming in mats anyway
when i did the w15 challenge i wasn't exactly swimming in them 
then you did w15 too early 
that is the point of the challenge 
I disagree, 2 UR aa and I’m only at 200 electronics
bro manualed w15
I'm at 6 and over 1k still
make more, bling out all your ships
I have 6 UR AA, and well over 1k electronics 
On a side note, how long have you been doing ops for , cuz 6 is a lot
who manualed w15
? i head kimo did it and fail or something
should be over 2 years at this point
dang auto
like if you've been around long enough you're going to be resource rich if you aren't stupid about things
if your manual worse than auto game is screaming skill issue at you
UR AA is like 90 electronics per iirc?
60
if you don't have the trash can
81 if you craft the trashcan as well
although i was prepared to manual at the worst case
pilica the 🕹️ master taught me well for harbiter and against rodney but i didn't need it somehow it cleared and left it 18% because it was kinda of a miracle
so far away
For some reason , I’ve been doing it for about a year or less and only at 2, and no mats lol
10 months here and i think it should be alright at this point 
something something marathon not a sprint
celerio me wait for ur w15 clear 
mine will be in late jan if things don't go wrong 
according to my google sheet i have a total of 339 electronics obtained (on hand + spent), tho its slightly skewed by me turning all my selectors into electronics.
ive played opsi for about 2.5 months so we can say maybe 120 electronics per month? 
You guys make sheets for these things?
i am a nerd™️
according to the gearlab tool im at 107 electronics per month also skewed by selectors spent on em
there's a gearlab tool 

#gameplay-help message its a spreadsheet
I tend to use 134s more
shit that is genius ty 
smh not all +13
the funnier part is I have the plates to do that
and this is why I actually don't consider myself old
but ya this is basically what long play time gets you 
TBH i m not sure if i have enough purple plates to +10 that amount of oxy 
now to fill this in
this is much better than my hodgepodge tracker
i only had the 6 mats not the prints and whatnot thanks for sharing
oxymor-
hey guys, I don't understand, what is this?
raise TB to be successful, gets you a secretary
#ask-your-tb-problems-here
daughter raising simulator that will give you tb as a secretary
has no other gameplay related rewards
i don't be father 🐴
so she is useless
ya it's a mode you can forget about
I gave up on her
I played with it on the first day then didn't bother with it
just like WA funny enough
I’ll prolly find myself going back after completing other game stuff
i just got the ending with her in a ponytail and left it alone
I haven't touched the game for a month or so now and just realized the ur event is almost over - are any of the ships worth pulling/grinding for in these last couple of days
I still have questions, so I want to do a research on kearsarge but for this I need eagle Union tech points, and as I understand, I get these points by increasing the level of characters from the same fraction or by obtaining them, the question is how much should I pump them up, So I upgraded one ship and zero points, how much should I upgrade them?
would I have time to grind out the ticket ur though in 2 days
if you have the oil and ships i think its possible
you only get those points on milestones, such as Obtaining, Max Limit Break, and Level 120
it's either Max Limit Breaking a Ship of the Faction, or Attaining a Ship of the Faction
/fleettech at least lvl 70 for MLB, lvl 120 takes quite a while
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
how?
i want to cry... it's like being slave...
Guys i need help
if you're looking to get tech points asap, are you really gonna bother with 120
go ahead and ask
but i will do it...
anyways I'm eepy,
good morning gph
by the way i got Fritz from 2 pulls, so she is good or not? and in what teama she will be good?
I have an Azur Lane account, and I tried logging in through Yostar. When I did, I wanted to access the Amagi server, where my progress is, but it's not there.
Fritz, like every other main fleet ship, is not good until mlb, but like all gacha URs is a cut above most ships
W15 support, good at medium/light
if u were in gbf gph u would get insta muted because of salt 
thanks
Have you already double checked that you're logged in properly? Have you tried other servers in case you remembered incorrectly?
If so and still no bueno, do you have your UID written down anywhere?
liverolling seems more acceptable in AL because the gacha is so generous
liverolling?
just stating your pulls in chat (incl. on socials)
bold of you to assume people really give much of a shit to in-game chat ngl
Idek where in game chat is anymore
Last time I clicked on it , there was a ton of racists
and for this server, we have #trophy-room for pulls, especially when a event intially goes live
It's strange because I logged in on October 31 without any issues. I recently came back to the game, logged in normally, but it's not on Amagi. Unfortunately, I don't remember my UID 😦
Only i rembember my nickname
At that point you'll have to go email customer support (al.cs@yo-star.com) , cant really help you any further here 
If possible, any recipets of in-game purchases will help too
~~Why do people flex gatcha anyway , hard to flex when the rates are that high
~~
also about that i read that of you will do research in research academy it will also gave you points but i am not sure if i understood it right
Thanks
Any estimate when will tenrai be added on gear lab? Or just gear lab update in general?
Around a month from now

Is the breguet better or worse than the Aichi for single target ? I am using her against meta taihou
Breguet is a parallel mobbing tb, never going to match Ryuusei
Tbs?
Torpedo bomber
Oh ok
I might be missing one? Do I need to do something obscure to get it?
ingame tasks done?
then ig you started it too late to finish, my condolences
I guess I missed 1
A bit more than 1
Sushi did u do it on time
Could have started on the 26th and still have gotten all
I'm truly flabbergasted at what I could've done wrong
Anyone got link for core shop priorities?
i mean, by doing all tasks you could in 5 days so i guess they did
You started too late on the 27th it seems
Im literrally missing 1
were you doing the web tasks daily because they do refresh
Protocore, spec core, or core data
hardly
Core data i think
you had 7 days and can finish it in 4 or 5 days iirc. again my condolences but you must've started too late or missed too many days
what tempesta gear is in core data or other permanent shops 
again not gamplay sorry but I keep seeing youtube vids with ships voice lines for special touching. What are special touches?
12 pounder, sail component, round shot
when you tap on a ship in a specific spot you get special voice lines
take a guess as to which spot
depending on the ship these can range from wholesome to very yabai
oh wow I had no idea thats a thing. In the lobby or in the dock?
Head pats are usually normal but uhh there are some special ones
as secretary so in the lobby
Secretary screen
ok thank you Ill try that out haha
be nice to your shipgirls 
then /coredata in #bot-spam
I already have everything there...
Then its up to how much do you hate swapping gear around
if you notice theres gear that you use on multiple ships buy more copies so you dont have to swap them around as much
I have no pr/dr ships constructed except st lou and kita. Almost done with anchorage. I’m not sure who to prioritize next
for me i always buy white and black shells and also firebrand(not sure about the name, but the plane to make wyvern)
One of the coinable DR ships, like friedrich
If it makes you feel better I didn't even know that existed.
What's the rewards from the gachapon thing?
So I should focus on below series 5?
1500 gems if you get lucky...
a few k coins, a few dorm tokens, 4 cubes and a random draw for some additional prizes
RESEARCH FOCUS is separate from who you are getting requirements for in shipyard
Oh. So nothing.
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research read this for more info
Alright thanks
Is the F4U or TBM good?
not really
tbm torpedo bomber is not useful nowadays
f4u is timing adjustment only which you likely dont need
Isn’t the community tier list outdated as hell rn?
it's only been like what...4 or so months at this point, the information on the ship section is still relevant for what it is
they’re up to date with prelims in their server
that would require join that place
Seems like it…
TRUE i hate that place
is there a reliable one-shot team for Taihou META that I can copy?
There's reliable 95% damage comps.
i am ectl’s biggest hater
100% is basically luck at this point, either Helena scan rng or crit/unzen torps hitting rng.
There are 95% reliable fleets that you may or may not be able to copy
I suppose that's good enough for me; I probably have all the ships, gear, and fleet tech already
I just threw in sirius instead of unzen.
One of the best without z52, it's like 85% with max tech
Vanguard pressure is so stupidly low that helena is tanking just fine lol.
yet Mogador still manages to die somehow
That happens when you go right up to the face of the enemy and get shotgunned. Repeatedly.
almost as if throwing yourself at the enemy, and eating most of the bullets kills you
What’s the first plane shinano has and where can I get it?
Saiun Kai from PR4
Alright thanks
Why does Shinano have that elixer aux
for when she gets thirsty
I guess it's basically the same thing as a steam catapult but seems weird to put in there for the example fleet ...
it's basically just a catapult with extra flavor for ryza ships
Is there a replacement for RPG interface
It's my fleet, not an example fleet 
i just started playing again after 2 years are there any guides to refresh on stuff also is retarting perhaps better
just continue your old account
alright, also can i ask for fleets maybe I don't know anymore
oh alright im just doing the event right now ill ask again when it gets hard
it doesnt
your ships are more than enough to clear them
With those ship levels you could put together pretty much any fleet and do d3 without thinking about it. Even SP would be mindlessly easy (probably)
SP is a bit iffy since level req
Only 110, most of his leveled ships are 115+.
Did they increase the rate of gold gear drop in the final stage of new events ? I keep getting the FDG gun in this event way more than Izumo gun in Musashi event .
oh he posted his higher level in 2nd ss
RNG
Should've been saving the luck for hvar
is it confirmed that the hvar drop rates a few years back were bugged or were they intended to be higher
is the event ending next MT?
very dumb question but what time is the global daily reset
It was confirmed. They kept the bugged rates rather than revert them, so the question is whether the rerun will have the same rate as initial run.
in like 4 hours
tyty
how much purple books do i need to bring a ship from lvl 100 to 120
How many prints is it per hvar? 25?
Purple books are whale territory to have any large number of them anyways, question should be how many blue books.
141 for non rainbow
169 for rainbow
Hvars were an accident, they decided to keep it to be nice
thx, so the lvl 70 pack covers for it, how abt 0-100?
75 for non rainbow
cuz when i get jintM ima be too lazy to get her to high lvl from grinding
doesnt have to be purple books
true
Who's the best units for anti-air stuff
I finally got into Ch12 after 5 years
is it San Diego
Sandy
san diego retro, guam, laffey 2, shimanto, etc
Cheshire is okay
Z52
aight thanks
Z52 is an aa carry?
wut she's good for AA?
also does anyone have a good updated tier list for Dec
i wanna see how Fritz and 52 rank
theyre both good
is early game like... chapter 3ish supposed to make you actually grind, i was under the impression a single fleet could at least vibe till c9 farming
unless there's like a notable mechanic im missing
but im getting washed in c3
nice thanks
yes you are correct that you can one fleet until W9, but this is of course assuming you properly gear and raise your ships
overlevel
and also ammo
Out Of Ammo doesnt really matter that much until W14-15 if you properly gear and raise your fleet
show your fleet
it might give us an idea what is wrong
sure one sec
is probably a gear thing if i had to guess cuz i havent like enhanced any gear/opened a lot of gear crates?
was roughly following the guide in terms of like, which units to put on team
sure having better gear would help
but also start limit breaking your ships
use the purple bulins
especially on portland and unicorn and z23
team looks fine
follow the guide for equipment as well and u will be fine
start limit breaking stuff and u will have no issue 
ye after this reply i noticed i completely missed the gear section of the guide oops
noted on LBs too
cant LB uni or z23 further rn but i can def lb portland more i think?
uni needs level 30 for next LB and z23 needs 70 i think?
you should make a thread so people will make it easier time to answer your questions
yep those level requirements are normal
penny would be next if u still have bulins
uhhh i think im good on questions for now but if i have more i’ll def make a thread for ease next time, ty for tip
should start retrofitting unicorn as well
and do your hard mode maps for retrofit prints
do 1-4 or 2-4 or 3-4 for CV prints for unicorn
chat is slow rn so no worries but if u ever have a lot of questions and the chat is busy feel free to make a thread
Twin 410mm Kai
Or
Triple 460 mm
For musashi
410 kai
Almost never the 460
ty btw 
Who uses the 460
I have 2
No one
no one, unless a boss requires
It's a niche use gun
realistically no one
Maybe Alsace or UvH (Off-Flag only)
but it's hyper niche
can that gun even get 4 shots off in harby
Soyuz for syncing with CVs can consider it too I guess
Alpha, you can barely get 4 shots off even with champy if you lack rld tech and used hpfcr
F***
I saw a rainbow gun and raised it to +10
Back then
yea thats fine
All that rainbows isnt necessarily good
bro what 
Ok well that's for meta to be fair
as long as you didnt go past +10 that's fine
**looks at warspite retro **
Looks at oxy torps
now dont worry i have 17 rld
The oxygen torpedo were born tired
So I've procrastinated on opsi
Do I get better materials further in opsi?
after completing the ops story, you get the option to bvuy good rewards
getting mats out of ops is more a matter of reptition than anything else, do nothing get nothing, actively participate and you'll start to gain
basically go grind C5 zones
Oohhh
How long is ops story
I just unlocked Liverpool
~~ i rember first arbiter kille gave me 5 ur plane plans ~~ not sure if that's first time kill thing
5 chapters
Well looks like I know what I'm doing for new years day

Event ends tomorrow?
How does Eldridge do on the priority list for both new players and mid game players
new players dont have Wattage Amplifier
pretty useful for mid game ppl
for those who do, eldridge is near top priority
first merit thing they should buy
her utility top tier, must buy
Jan 1, 11pm pt
What even is her utility, which ones actually matter
||Starshine is argumentative, pedantic, and PITA. Got into arguments because he is adamant that W12 is too difficult and too demanding for newer players. Tbf, Spize can be as argumentative too, but it's usually him trolling Starshine. Not like I'm not a pedantic argumentative PITA too, but at least I realised that...||
Well I have all day to grind tomorrow for the event
she has a slow, she is very good at keeping your vanguards alive, free +10 hedgehog
So she's perfectly fine to use in W14 without hedgehog?
Tmr is last day of event, right?

How long from now until the UR event ends?
Oh, wait, I realized it was just answered. Nevermind
Rainbow mag quint or gold imp mag quad better for mobbing?
Rainbow quint mag = Gold quad mag
Gold improved quad mag > both
Y?
What should i do now
Just higher damage
Finish up gathering exp for her?
Nope
Can i ask how to farm exp fast
Use 3 US frontliners, use them in battle
If event is up, event
If event is not up, 12-1/4
That's how you do it "fast"
Alr
Get 1 from protocore shop, 1 from research
Though it's probably gonna get added to gear lab soon so 
You're recommended to have 2 at least
Ideally 3
Tho the 3rd is lower priority than your first plygun and LA-9
alright
I know I asked this like multiple times before but
anti-med CV includes Rumey with 2 la-9 and Nakhi with la-9 and 2 TB?
Both have double LA-9 ideally
Rocket > TB for med if your name isn't amagi
aight
I just got saratoga from building but I already got fritz yesterday so is she going to be benched for now? 
can you get her retrofit?
If you don't have the means to MLB fritz
Fritz would have been benched for an extended period of time to begin with
UR not mlb = trash
Anything not mlb is trash
I haven't finished retrofitting nelson yet
Yo ender i finally got unicorn retrofit lol, who do i retrofit first between laffey, portland and helena?
portland is part of ur beginner mission
Bet
What would i have done without ender, i wouldnt be farming consistently for sure

This game is a marathon
play how you like but retro saratoga > retro nelson imo
Not a sprint
brother
I FORGOT 😭 IM SORRY
isnt nelson then sara? since sara u wont be using it in the beginning
what if I was an absolute baller and got fritz MLB in a few days?
then gg king
Then use both

would u have the money to do that tho
so saratoga in future fleet 2?
Sara and Nelson are both good
I don't know if I have enough but I have a bunch of beginner stuff I can probably use 
I'd argue nelson needs her retro more anyways
Bump up the barrage proc rate to 70%
Sara has her augment
now that i think of it
sara needs her aug too
also mail has money if u never checked mail storage
I took everything out and I wasted it on research like a dumbass
research isnt that bad "if u did it correctly"
please tell me use used the discounts
I only did the 1500 coins ones
nice
that's coining not the actual researches
then great
and some occasionally free ones that didn't have any condition
but on which pr
yeesh those are dogshit
but tolerable if you lack enough coins
oh yeah smh i was thinking abt the coining wtf 
PR5 at first but someone told me to switch to PR4 a few weeks ago
/research for reference
yes thats good
credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg
Just do 4 first till we get 4 fully coinable
Tho even then I'd still argue 4 is better gear wise...
I wanna save as much as possible these days cus building takes a lot of coins 
Is Z52 skills which building up her Thunder heart stack and gain benefits justified enough to give her the fast peashooter gun instead of a real damaging DD gun ?
i thought you already got fritz
wait ur builing light daily right?
I've been building as much as possible on event banner but yeah, before event I was building 1x light
if u got the banner UR u should just go back to light , unless u want all ship from banner
never chase pity if ur f2p
^^^
I'm a greedy person and Iron Blood women made me weak
just so u know next week theres another UR rerun
i mean i could tell from your red hood anniversary pfp
so good luck with ur german woman making u weak
Is there an update going on?

what's one more bad decision, am I right? 
(I'm so cooked)
My game doing weird stuff
Why is it ''Cheking for updates'' in the loading screen
u need 400 cube for pity just letting u know
Yes
Tho her gun damage isn't ass so
Best middle ground would be the rather expensive gold single 113
Otherwise the 100kai if you have one lying around
they sometimes put out hotfixes every now and then
Also maybe your specific app missed one earlier or whatever so it's checking to make sure or something idk
Either way it shouldnt be too much of a issue unless you suddenly cant load into the main menu
I have 46 cubes and a dream 
Now it works

100kai or single 113 better for Z52?
113
Single 113
Give the 100 Kai to something that really wants the DPS
Really noob question but what is exercise? Is it the pvp gamemode? I may have played one game but it was like 3-4 years ago 😅
PvP
Is it a must do?
Owh i thot dat 170% eff makes her one of those that wants the dps too
No
the pvp gamemode kinda dead
Z52 wants a fast firing gun
In most cases, that would be true
The issue is z52's aoa + skill are even more cracked
speaking of MLB, if I can't MLB my Z52 then she's also benched too, right?
Yes
yes
what is the best torp for ancho?
Another case of Itdependicitis
In this case, how often/when you want her smoke to come out
Ooo
if you're just leveling ships the LB doesn't necessarily matter for UR/DR/Meta, MLB really only matters so far as actual content 
If you just want as many smokes as possible, the blue twin torp (french I believe?)
If you want a specific timing you'll have to check
where to get it, is it from tech box?
research
Kekw
it is not craftable iirc
pretty sure you can grab them from french boxes...
Yeah I think so too
I really cannot remember
okee tyy
The purple triple one is in research
dev 30 later, what lvl is she feasible to use?
lol
i mean what ship level
can i use her if lvl 100? or is portland lvl 118 better at that point
Y Fritz wants plygun instead of STAAG?
So.....
wiki lying
Stat stick for her ghost CA gun

Her ghost CA gun akshually useful? How useful?
Quite strong actually
It's strong enough to ignore the CL gun entirely
As i said from the beginning , extremly strong campaign CV 
Wtfish
Someone leave it in wiki feedback
I'll get to it in about 8h otherwise

gona yoink taz's screenshot
So she wants flag or off?
unless they decided to randomly shove new shit into French boxes, they do in fact drop 
zMn where to get french boxes? i only have eagle royal sakura ib
Medal shop, merit shop sometimes
Shop
medal shop, at the bottom hidden away
Her CA gun can still fire off cd everytime even on off?
It's not meant to be for suicide boat interception
The range on it is extremely long
It's more like Odin's secondaries
To chip off production types from a long way out
go check whether you can craft it already or not. if you've been doing research regularly, chances are you have enough bp to craft it already. only requires 5
Deym
The CL gun slot itself is mostly a meme tho
Realistically, who tf would give Rumey a plygun
wt will be the assum rerun UR after yk2?
Even if you did have that many, you'd sooner give it to your BBs or yr Helena
So which CL gun to put on her?
found it, thanks
If Blucher rerun wasnt somewhere in the air as a possibility then yee Implac would be next
Shame she have no bonus if you give her AA with her skill and have to depend on the AA itself for bonus
There is a lot to take in but now I assume I jsut push campaign rn?
Yes
what comand is this? /schedule?
Till I hit a roadblock
There is no command
Owh
It's @ blaster I guess
Cause as a new player all of these stuff seem kind of overwhelming
I have my own list in my own server
and I have a image of it that I can copy/paste at will if needed
how do you normally farm these?
also is using them the preferred way of leveling ships?
using lvl 100+ ships in combat

Simple
If event up, do event
If event not up, do campaign
If morale is low, do opsiren once you unlock it
Otherwise go touch grass
nice nice thats good thx
Also daily raid , and weekly drop
Good call thanks
any combat?
dont forget daily light or event pull
mainly campaign since that's where you're doing the majority of your grind
What is daily light or event pull?
ok ok, tysm :3
Like building of ships?
event banner until you get the UR or whoever you want off of it when a event is active
1 light pull per day otherwise or you got everyone you wanted off of the banner
Yes
If you plan to use those ships if you'll want to have them farm exp the usual way to get affinity as well.
I am always scarce of gold
so u get back cubes for building.. u dont wanna miss out on that
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips give this a read
I did read on that is just that there is too much stuff hahaha I read till about gears
Then I just saw so much stats I just didn't feel like reading after that
cause u have a daily mission that says do a pull , so light pull cost u 1 cube and event cost u 2 cubes, daily u will earn 4 cube
so is heavy n special they both cost 2 cube
i wanted to make an informed decision on my anniversary invite thing and been forgetting about all this time
how do i judge which one to pick? are any of them much better than the others?
Gonna grind azure lane rn I'll ask if I need help again thanks guys
Check the pin
ty
is the anniv one even pinned anymore?
Are there any cases of using afct & black pencil
didn't find it
Oh it’s the Anniversary one, my bad
what's on the anniv invite again?
It's been quite a while since August lol
Uh remind me the options yeah
lemme type them out
Ideally you'd avoid the permanently available ship
maybe
tho AFCT + White is much more common, namely due to the White shell's additional HIT stat
here
dawg they are all peramently avaliable
that's no what he was looking for
he was looking for the EN Anniv one
Sorry I meant available in non-gacha
what was it called, spring?
inb4 that's also all of them
Bremerton, Sirius, Shoukaku, Bismarck, Jeanne d'Arc, Pola..
Aren't these all non gacha I was joking god damn
Average, Good for CV Boss fleets, Average, meh, useful for W14-15 bossing if needed, and Meh respectively
nah pretty sure Bremerton and Pola are in the gacha pool
how do i check if they are?
Wiki
Brem is available in war archive
Yeah it's just Pola as the ~~ non ~~ gacha
I need more sleep fr I meant to type the only gacha
that's 2 fuck ups in the span of like 10 minutes
I guess Pola it is then, but also like in terms of the ship themselves I'd rather have the other.
But you'll have em sooner or later.
I’ve done all PR IV. Finished Plymouth (farming BPs now). What’s next? I kind of want to go right to Napoli, but I have literally nothing leveled to do the CDC for SE or NParliament.
is the 113mm dd gun worth making?
worth but probably not a priority especially if you're new to midgame player
what counts as new -> midgame?
shimanto fs5 (but pr6 is bad) for ch 15 or nakh (but you will need NP ships to activate her skill) for strong cv
napoli now doesn't have a place in top fleets (as something only she can do and no replacement for her/other ships are downgrades to her)
or just pr7 for la9
So I did a Hail Mary pull with all I got before January 1 (advanced happy new year y'all)
I got Theseus. Is she still good?
if you still need electronics to make planes or mainguns etc
right. ill make it after getting 3rd wyvern then. do i need the UR 406 bb gun?
she is average since she was in the game iirc...
having 1 or 2 is nice
Still roughly as average as she was when she came out
and takes priority over 113 imo
113 is really one of the very last gear you want to craft from lab
kk thnx
use this as reference #gameplay-help message
Sorry when it says “in depot” does it mean not used, as in spare? Or does it just mean in possession
in possession
Thank
Which recipe should I use to craft mk7
i think most use the one from mk6
i could be wrong actually
yea i could be highly wrong 
It’s just I don’t know which material is better to conserve lol
what are the best fighters for Rumey that aren't event only?
depends on what you wanna do with her
flap if you want interception, bf109g/la9 for bossing
There hasn't been a relevant event only fighter plane in years besides Hellcat HVAR
Is this gear fine for z52? Should I make the aa that increases fp?
this is good enough
That's fine for now until you can craft the British 113
Also no don't change her AA gun out for that
That was the main one I was thinking of
K also what’s recommended augment?
The double swords
Like mori said earlier, depends on the content
Tigercat or Flapjack for campaign
Gold Hellcat if you can't make Tigercats or Flapjacks
BF-109G for Anti-med
LA-9 is BF-109G but more Pog
Hellcat HVAR for anti-light
Also do note that BF-109G, Hellcat HvAR, and LA-9 can't passive intercept
I'm trying to figure out where Ganj-i-Sawai should be positioned in a fleet.. any help?
The bench
okay thank you! and I think I can make Tigercats and Flapjacks just only have one of each cuz Im lazy but I will move onto PR7 soon ish I hope but I doubt it because I am no where near done with PR6
flag of waifu fleet i guess
i see
She's kinda whatever in the grand scheme of things
And her fleet tech benefits only like three other ships
shes fine to use outside plane heavy content if you enjoy her but dont expect her to perform anywhere more than middling at best. also hope you have her gun...
so if im going for clearing campaign and efficiency i should not priortize her
Yes you shouldn't
just bench her
No because your backliners are not MLB
Drop fritz for a lower rarity carrier like enterprise or Saratoga
positions are a nightmare for me
Focus your UR bulins on New Jersey instead, since you already partly invested in her
what setup do i need for taihou meta? standard heavy CV fleet?
you know what, I'll max her now lol
With portland i got all the prints i need except the blue ones, brutal......
you will want slow/freeze btw
does sirius prefer a peashooter dd gun or a high dps dd gun
Why does this always happen to me 😭 , I have like 70 purples, and enough golden ones but the blue ones always at 3 or 5
do you convert blues to purples
Peashooter
Not 76 tho
cos this realistically never happens unless you retrofit a shit ton of commons + are new, or convert your prints
Jimmy also said so, how though, isn't it 41% fp and something2? Or her barrage is just good
No everything is shit 
Nope, been like this since i came back few days ago. Before that i havent really farmed since 2021
dang
Even back then i dont remember doing this
just a lack of hard mode clears then ig
you are looking at 50k damage and 52k damage difference, for sirius so i choose... not bother
I never cleared hard mode until few days ago 😅
well get onto it, and AL is marathon not sprint so have patience
ah so it's the AoA 
Yea i am and ik, few hours ago i finally got Unicorn retrofit
sirius is basically zero AoA
is there any reason to save the shop points in opsi? i wanna get the UR skill books..
where did she get 50k damage in the first place there
no i mean the rng will affect her damage more than main gun
there's some massive copium being spread about sirius
you know 50k isn't hard. 500dps over 80s is already 40k
Her aoa is ok, her guns are ok
twin 138.6 is Sirius's best main gun
not particularly
No one in their right mind is giving her that tho
k thnx
is it like "gun damage negligible enough just give her whatever" case then?
idk about her aoa being ok, its barely there imo, but her gun is aight. decent selfbuffs and can use dd gun and decent efficiency/stat. nothing special but nothing awful
There are so many other ships that would want it over her
if you're using sirius you mean business so mean it?
it's more like she does very similar gun damage using the common ones compared to bis (which is twin 138) so don't need to worry about this
how is her barrage compared to her sister scylla?
just give her a decent dps dd gun and call it a day
Scylla is way better
.
effectively nonexistent
Scylla and dido have poggers aoa
hers is comparable to dido without augment, dido with augment's aoa smokes sirius as well
I thought dido even without augment had a better aoa
No lmao

its not nothing, the base dmg is decent but from what ive seen, on auto the pattern is pretty shit and often misses. that's just been my experience though
Dido was only considered better than Sirius back then pre opsi cos she had better skills
i'd consider dido without aug slightly better?
Only Scylla has the actual pog
either way augged dido smokes both
and scylla smokes augged dido (but not nearly as much as she smokes dido/sirius)
Also
who wants dido when dido muse is better 
If you call Sirius pattern shit
Wait till you realise they all have almost the same damn pattern
The difference is the damage multipliers
what is this website?
Even Scylla's pattern is just a fancier version of Sirius'
tbf i dont have dido so for comparison ive been going off numbers and assuming similar pattern didos is slightly better
i just always end up seeing sirius aoa miss whenever i peek the screen
maybe im just unlucky?
riceist:barrage
You haven't seen bad AoAs then lol
ty both
i mean...ive seen z9s, i know worse aoas exist lol but i dont think sirius's aoa is particularly impactful that's all
Your gifs became PNGs
he is trying to show that Sirius's AoA is literally nonexistent 
Bili wiki is a pain to copy gifs from
Trust me, I've tried
You need to like use a fucking inspect element or sth
alright that doesn't work... tried to steal from cn wiki 
Anyways they're all not worth throwing a good gun onto
Unless you somehow have multiple mog guns
should I buy the event torps? are they any good?
Best in the game
alright then, I would probably just not worry about sirius and just give her whatever, thx all
first thing you buy honestly imo
Just give her whatever ye
how good is z52?
amazing
oh bet I had like 16k and just asking before I try to get a second Z52
You don't use URs that are not MLB
oh yea what about ply gun? nvm I think it would have got mentioned if it was good
ok now the real question, is this currency time gated?
more or less
A notable portion is
I think it's one of the best pioneers
the event doesn't last forever?
yes except for some event missions and the exchangeable ones from event point
Pioneer? Tf is this, Arknights?
i assume dd translates to pioneer from CN using bad machine translate
sirius, dido, dido augment
what i mean is, if i miss a few days, am i screwed or is it grindable?
DD = expulsion
vanguard = pioneer
its grindable
Grindable
didn't even notice Dido got a UE lol
dido aug seems clearly improvement over the other two but the other two arent as bad as i remembered, neat
do i get these to buy the UR vouchers?
what other way is there to grind if any?
Complete the 1x missions
if you can clear SP, it's basically free. dupe is...
thx, damn dido deals so much barrage compared to sirius
do the manjuu curling minigame, clear sp, use every ship except z52 herself in b3/d3 boss node without them sinking
yeah anyone saying aug dido barrage comparable to sirius is
its too bad dido herself is a meh ship
Ohhhh nice. Where do you find these gifs?
i thought u coded them sushi 
wouldn't be surprised if they were at this point
im new as well
how do i even go about playing this game
i found them on my computer
i have a favorite ship but i hear shes not that good
yea this mf used python to code it
aside from endgame content, waifu > meta
dont let us metahogs get you down
you can ask how to make the best of it
what works on taiho
i ctrl+F this chat, should be accurate
