gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

they didn't "update" to include OS bossing, then subsequently didn't bother to "update" for 14 and 15 either just citing it's not for endgame niches

[barren tapir]

(im largely being pedantic for the sake of it here, but i do really think oxys should be put as a lower tier option for dd gearing as a whole since not recommending it based on survivability issues, while i get that, also happens to ignore situations where oxy is best gearing, which means it should be listed)

i am, however, not gonna suggest that in ectl's discord as i am partial to not being yelled at

[whole crypt]

but I'd also like to point out that ships are tiered in their "completed" state, which basically means your ship is only being tiered for how they fare in ch10-13

[patent raft]

Is there's a website that can track down when new shipsgirls event gotta release?

[barren tapir]

#game-news basically this

[whole crypt]

the schedule is roughly consistent for anniversaries but we don't have any foresight on when shit actually happens

[humble tapir]

what does it mean when an aa gun is an "accelarator"? (got it from the community tier list)

[atomic abyss]

Rof and no dmg

[patent raft]

Thank.. I really hope so

[whole crypt]

fast guns that may have poorer damage
don't think too much about it because it doesn't matter in practice

[barren tapir]

fast reload speed to make the fleet's avg aa reload speed faster

[humble tapir]

oh ok

[barren tapir]

largely ignorable

[humble tapir]

tqtq

[whole crypt]

the devs just don't have a public schedule very far ahead, we don't even get event ship announcements until a week before the event

[patent raft]

Oh

[frank pulsar]

you can just use a quad bofors on ship with bad aa

[whole crypt]

and the event announcement itself also only in similar time frame

[barren tapir]

sometimes less than a week, like the livestream for this event was what, 3 days or so before it began?

[patent raft]

Oh ok nntktt

[whole crypt]

this one was weird but I guess year-end scheduling was hard

[ebon lion]

which should I MLB first Fritz Rumey or Z52?

[storm heron]

the only people knowing ahead of announcement what ships are like artist and devs

[whole crypt]

I'd lean towards Z52 but you could also just save and wait for Yorktown II

[barren tapir]

artist probably has nda too

[whole crypt]

devs mostly, art can be commissioned way ahead of time and have no idea of the actual release schedule

and yes they have NDA so even if they knew they can't say

[ebon lion]

wait are you replying to me?

[barren tapir]

i would wait for yk2 then ask after that. it also depends on your current URs and how many bulins you have access to, and the general state/progress of your account to a degree

(but i also lean to z52 if you made me pick one right now with no other info)

[ebon lion]

i see but is rumey not good? I also already have a maxed out yorktown 2

[barren tapir]

rumey good, z52 more uniquely good

[whole crypt]

Fritz Rumey is expected to be very good in anti-medium and anti-light CV fleets but not uniquely impressive in her skillset

[barren tapir]

rumey good but is technically "just another great UR carrier" while z52 is "universally amazing vanguard ship that's good at everything" and thus harder to replace or find alternatives for

i might be underselling rumey a bit granted

[whole crypt]

just also because there are fewer meta vangaurd units for competition

[soft dagger]

if i use 'flexible' for z52 is that correct word?

[storm heron]

nah rumey is just like that, z52 bettuh

[whole crypt]

very physically flexible

[barren tapir]

rumey technically bis for w15 support fleet that is smth she's uniquely good at i guess

[ebon lion]

thanks for the tips, thank god I haven't sunk any bulins on rumey yet

[whole crypt]

basically Z52 offers more as a vanguard than Rumey offers as a rainbow CV

[storm heron]

z52 90% potential is super cheap

[whole crypt]

oh right yes, and z52 is super cheap to gear and use

[barren tapir]

also that...rumey wants UR plane like all those greedy UR cvs...z52 happy with gold gun and +10 even

[storm heron]

meanwhile rumey with 8 hellcats, tripple 155, and purple steam catapults

[reef flume]

Speaking of Z-52 what is she good for and where is she good in a meta-fight fleet

[whole crypt]

she's good for everything™️

[barren tapir]

hellcats more like corsairs LOL if we're talking budget

[whole crypt]

could be cursed purple hellcats

and purple 155

[reef flume]

No I mean, is she better in a CV fleet or a BB fleet? Or it doesn't matter?

[barren tapir]

otherwise idk, single 113 is on a comparable-ish level imo to flapjack + cuda at least.

now, if we went even lower...single 76 vs purple hellcat/corsair/cuda... z52 wins so hard

[whole crypt]

she can buff damage for both
anti-heavy can debuff with mogador for TBs so I'd lean towards putting her in a BB or rocket CV fleet

[storm heron]

maybe bb fleet since she's like one of the view that can buffs bb while still being tanky
nvm I forgot that 5% buff is probably less good for bbs with damage bonus

[reef flume]

Alr

[barren tapir]

rip plymouth

[elfin hollow]

Would putting Zara (Tenri Shield) and Jeanne d' Arc (Holy Prayer) in the same fleet be redundant?

I'm planning on replacing her with a fully LM-ed Hipper meta

[whole crypt]

just use Agir/Z52/Plymouth (or swap Z52 to offtank if she's more durable I don't know)

[barren tapir]

yeah z52 offtank

[reef flume]

Also should I change something?

[storm heron]

use faster gun

[barren tapir]

well content dependent, for very high vg pressure (high enemy hit) id trust ply a little more, since z52 is heavily sustain and evatank focused

[barren tapir]

really could be either. z52 on paper would offtank though

[reef flume]

Gotcha

[barren tapir]

whats this for, but i dont think zara is particularly good(?)

[storm heron]

probably not entirely right on the order but oh well

[barren tapir]

100kai over single76 but otherwise probably correct

it gets the point across, at any rate

[storm heron]

idk what zara does, but hipper is pretty bad too

[elfin hollow]

I'm optimizing Fleet 2 (Mob fleet) for stage 7 and beyond. Not much gold equipment for the moment

[barren tapir]

dont make a 2nd fleet until ch9+

[whole crypt]

honestly if you can craft rainbow duck just craft 113 instead, if you can't then I'd probably go with gold duck

[storm heron]

rainbow duck?

[whole crypt]

100kai

[barren tapir]

zara baseline 99.62% ehp
zara max (VV+pola) 117%

hipper meta 107%

would use hipper meta if you can max her properly (requires opsi for the mats, realistically)

[storm heron]

how is that a duck

[whole crypt]

if you don't have gold duck then I guess falling back on 76 is fine

[whole crypt]

apparently it's a KC meme somehow Akizuki gun became duck gun

[ebon lion]

btw guys any recommendations for z52 equipments?

[elfin hollow]

Damn I'm not yet level 60.

Would stick to fleet 1 only I guess

[storm heron]

idk she is not released yet

[elfin hollow]

I'm just worried with ammo falling to zero on nodes

[whole crypt]

Z52 btw, 53 doesn't exist (yet)

[barren tapir]

zara looks like portland with more damage(?) but gold bulins

[ebon lion]

mb about my fat fingers

but yea, any recommendations

[wind hazel]

the pic above

[gilded carbon]

The one on the bottom is a decent transitional gun for Z52 then?

[storm heron]

you can try raising a weak fleet in dorm to take down 1 or 2 mob nodes I guess? just don't funnel too much resource that could've gone to your stronger fleet

[barren tapir]

where rainbow AA

[whole crypt]

lazy to craft a new one

[ebon lion]

two repair kits?

[barren tapir]

usual DD loadout

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I also realized I'm doing something wrong.

I'm so keen with clearing nodes that I prioritized getting each stage to three stars before proceeding 😂😭

[whole crypt]

2 toolkits is the standard for DDs

[wind hazel]

toolkit+any other 500hp or above aux

[barren tapir]

do you guys +13 gold hp aux for another 90 hp?

[wind hazel]

yes

[barren tapir]

[whole crypt]

I think you can understand why I didn't bother moving any of the guns out to Z52

[storm heron]

you don't need to 3* them immediately

[wind hazel]

but not just any random hp aux

stuff like goldburn is good to +13

[barren tapir]

my account is so bricked cos i missed goldburn

[wind hazel]

rpg, the towel, few others too

[ebon lion]

me looking at my 5 dds with rainbow torps

[whole crypt]

I mean if they're not dying then oxytorps are fine

but then it also means you're using them some place where the oxytorp probably don't matter either

[elfin hollow]

Can i ask how to increase affnity fast?

[whole crypt]

use ships in fights outside of OS with green morale

[ebon lion]

fair enough

[storm heron]

I don't have this much, I would just +13 my pearl tears, wnt, prowler, towel, heels, black torp, manjuu, and something somehthing first

[barren tapir]

1st secretary slot + campaign/event/warchive battles with mvp control

i think ppl used to spam 1-1 to speedrun oath new ships, dunno if that's still a thing

[whole crypt]

it can be, depends

[storm heron]

nah new ships need skill

or maybe just for funsies

[wind hazel]

i see people usually do on 2-1

[barren tapir]

[wind hazel]

more battle? idk

[whole crypt]

1-1C is a semi-dead manual tactic

[barren tapir]

ship doesnt need skill to be oathed doggo

[whole crypt]

you literally just repeat the ambush node ad nauseum

[barren tapir]

ew manual, 2-1 clearly superior

[storm heron]

I thought you meant to be fully maxed ship speedrun rora

[barren tapir]

no no no just affinity speedrun tactics

[elfin hollow]

Opened a rainbow box (dumb enough to not read the fine print) and got a gold ironblood torpedo.

Would Z23 benefit from one?

[whole crypt]

1-1C is the fastest and cheapest assuming you start from lv1

[whole crypt]

quint is meh, quad is good, if you don't have better then quint will have to do anyway

[barren tapir]

thats the generally best torp for auto for all ships (besides improved quad, which is limited currently)

oh quad gold* if it's quint then meh, but usable

[storm heron]

wait gold quint mags? from ib box? I thought only gold quad mags can be dropped

[elfin hollow]

I mean the torpedo equipment, not the Torpedo launcher XD

[barren tapir]

the what now

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure KMS boxes do not drop torp auxes

[barren tapir]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Homing_Torpedo_Mount#Type_2-0

[storm heron]

ijn drop torp auxes

[elfin hollow]

Wait lemme check

I got the one from the Monthly login

[barren tapir]

it does drop from kms box smh

[elfin hollow]

I forgot if it's Sakura, Eagle or IB

[viral trellis]

what chapter of the campaign should I start using 6 ships for the mob fleet?

[bleak mica]

me got like 20 gold quint mag but only 1 quad

[whole crypt]

if only, the number of times the box skunked me with quints when I wanted quads

[barren tapir]

unless you massively overlevel content you should always be doing that

[storm heron]

I never got quint mags out of them, I only have 1 gold quint mags my entire life (lol)

[wanton dawn]

Is the 157x4 better than the 145x4…? Thanks

[barren tapir]

i havent gotten either from a box ever so...

[whole crypt]

just use 6 ships all the way, the more important thing is to not split up fleets until around ch9+

[barren tapir]

im convinced quadmags in box dont exist and everyone is lying

[wanton dawn]

Torpedos aren’t situational right except auto or manual? Like I don’t need to think abt light and heavy right

[barren tapir]

yeah torpedos are just auto or manual

[whole crypt]

there are lab torps that are better against light but they're not homing and you don't need to worry about them for most part

[wanton dawn]

Tysm

[barren tapir]

the light torps are called "missiles"

[storm heron]

yep light and heavy only matter during the ship choice, you don't need to consider choosing torpedo based on their damage against light/med/heavy

[whole crypt]

they're not, and they're french, also missiles are not in lab

[quartz jungle]

Well I got 10 (every single one in fact) from boxes

[barren tapir]

i was making a joke i mean that the good light "torp" is actually "missile" on ddg only, otherwise dont rlly bother

[whole crypt]

~~jokes in gph? gasp ~~

[bleak mica]

I crafted 1 quad French torp for fun and still haven't found a use for it

[barren tapir]

a collectors equipment

[storm heron]

I mean I use it occasionally for my shimakaze if I have difficulty against light since I just like manualing, can't miss if you facetorp

[wind hazel]

what...

[whole crypt]

it's better against light by enough that supposedly not hitting as consistently as mags is good enough against light targets exclusively

but that begs the question why would you be caring that much about light damage with torps to start with

[barren tapir]

is it worth the mats though...

[wind hazel]

better off manual with teatorp

[barren tapir]

i looked it up hmm 130 light mod and decent dmg per torp but no homing probably bad on auto?

[whole crypt]

not exactly expensive

[storm heron]

on auto they won against light

based on suchi's simulation at least

[barren tapir]

oh good...im so used to everything costing electronics

might make one for the lulz then

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Torpedo_Mount_Mk_IX#Type_0-0 this is the teatorp?

better make one of those too just in case™️

[storm heron]

that's a good torp

[wind hazel]

bis pvp

[bleak mica]

at least 3 in case you wanna run a full vanguard fleet of it

[wind hazel]

great for torpedomeme EX too

[dreamy blade]

is it just called teatorp bc it's hms

[storm heron]

said the one with 6k score

[whole crypt]

torpmeme EX is kind of dead ever since they had some EXs with torp shields at start

what's the fishpack with homura again?

[soft dagger]

flasher alba/archer

[storm heron]

does this one has torp shield?

[sinful elk]

Chat are any of the new ship worth using

[grizzled sundial]

The gremlin DD is a must

[storm heron]

depends on the case

[sinful elk]

I heard shes kinda cracked

[whole crypt]

shrug I haven't done torp meme in years

[grizzled sundial]

From what i see , she is multi role and also provide AA + heal , something IB be4 didnt have .

[sinful elk]

Uhh yeah those, but is she enough to compare to Ply like i saw someone talking about it

[storm heron]

I don't think she provide heals... nvm she has 6% of her 3800 hp

[grizzled sundial]

I still on the fence about rumey after watching several video.

[whole crypt]

if you have other rainbow CVs and are strapped for bulins she's not a real priority

[sinful elk]

whats with her?

[whole crypt]

if you can afford to then she's the newest anti-med/light monster

[sinful elk]

oh dawg i am seriously in need of those light-destroyers cv

[grizzled sundial]

Unfortunately i am already upgraded her to 125 minus meta gears

[barren tapir]

z52 utility is kinda absurd tbh in terms of just how much she does. she doesnt stand out super high in any one area but shes great in a lot of stuff

AA carry (70% of sandy ish)
tank (mob-sustain type)
barrage/bullet spammer
slash clears enemy torp/bullets
heals lowest hp ship
buffs entire fleet damage
reduces flag dmg taken

im like 90% sure i forgot some other aspects

oh yeah she does great dps too lol

would it be wrong to call z52 the rainbow army knife of vanguard ships

[storm heron]

she's the trade of all jacks

[whole crypt]

that's fair I guess, Plymouth used to be the do-it-all ship, Z52 does AA better and probably ASW too

just wait for her FS

[grizzled sundial]

Augment item

[barren tapir]

imagine plymouth fs5 applies her 18% flag dmg to entire main fleet

[storm heron]

just wait for her aug

[barren tapir]

her augment allows her to buff cvs

now to run before i get bonked

[grizzled sundial]

Well , at least she ticked all the good box for people who run faction fleet

[whole crypt]

I don't remember Plymouth having any skill with conditional effects? all of the DR FSs so far have removed the conditional reqs on skills

[barren tapir]

ply is still hella good anyway it's not a drek situation by any means

[whole crypt]

so it's going to be a bit weird

[barren tapir]

When the battle starts, increases this ship's FP and ACC by 4.5% (12%). If sortied with another Royal Navy ship, or if this ship has Royal Navy gear equipped: increases this ship's EVA by 5% (15%).

well...it's a very tiny conditional

[storm heron]

haku's ijn planes

[barren tapir]

also this

Exposed enemies take 8% (18%) increased DMG from your Flagship if she is a BB, BC, or BBV.

could turn into just... "from your Flagship"

[storm heron]

or just "Exposed enemies take 18% increased DMG"

[barren tapir]

[atomic abyss]

Royal navy gear

Lol lmao even

[storm heron]

ply gun

[barren tapir]

isnt that just rudder LOL

[atomic abyss]

Even without plygun

Roomba

[barren tapir]

wait no that's apparently american mb

[storm heron]

even without roomba
albion's

[barren tapir]

even without albions

teatorp

[south sequoia]

does anyone have any set ups for amagi nano vs taihou

[barren tapir]

actually i see this going to either "from your flagship" or "from your bb/bc/bbvs" in her fs5

[storm heron]

without implac?

[south sequoia]

with implac

[barren barn]

Should i directly do hard mode of the event or do normal and hard

[barren tapir]

do a1 a2 c3 b1 b2 d3

[storm heron]

that's unfortunate, I thought somebody finally needed my maihou fleet

[barren tapir]

optimal for oil efficiency assuming you can low cost the normal maps

[south sequoia]

your time will come eventually

[midnight flower]

Does ship with 3m exp can still contribute to lab ship development?

[south sequoia]

yes

[midnight flower]

It doesn't appear on the battle result page tho, then how do I calculate like how many sorties until 100% progress

[barren tapir]

by using wiki or other ships result

[south sequoia]

then I am afraid that is for you to figure out, you can roughly calculate how much you get by looking at the other exp your ships get

[storm heron]

try doing 3x sortie, and check the progress

[south sequoia]

as long as the ship isnt in flagship or mvp, they shouldnt differ assuming everyones the same mood

[storm heron]

and then calculate

[midnight flower]

Alr thanks yall

[south sequoia]

anyone?

#al-general for blogging please, thank you

[storm heron]

ngl I'm trying to find it but I only get end results

there's only this

[south sequoia]

im a bit of stupid dumdum so I have to copy and paste set ups

too lazy to calculate

[storm heron]

this one

[south sequoia]

there we go thank youu

[gilded carbon]

what would be good Ships to field alongside Z52?

[storm heron]

or this one for maihou or Taihou META

[south sequoia]

ah frick I only have one of the new planes, no la9 too

[storm heron]

I'm afraid I'm a bit incompetent to calculate alternatives

[barren barn]

How to delete a cat

[storm heron]

no restrictions

[storm heron]

feed to other cats

[gilded carbon]

so, she, the amptly named swiss army-knife, is just going to work? Neat

[whole crypt]

looks 4strike

and Helena :v

[storm heron]

97/100 is just weird tbh

like why need helena if 97/100...

[whole crypt]

[storm heron]

but maybe it works

[whole crypt]

I'm happy with the current comp kthx

[quartz jungle]

Yeah that basically means Helena needs only 1 proc, just use Unzen

[kindred flicker]

so does auto repeating sortie give me all of the sortie rewards 3x (from the event) or only on the first run?

[quartz jungle]

0.4^4 ≈ 0.025

[storm heron]

how is that 1 proc, that's like 0 proc

[quartz jungle]

Helena only needs 1 proc for fleet to oneshot

[storm heron]

it just doing 3 runs so you don't need to reset every run

[quartz jungle]

This is chance for Helena to fail every proc

[storm heron]

oh at least 1 proc, I MATHed

we have ENed and then MATHed

[kindred flicker]

no no like if i set sortie to 3 runs you know how the first run of every event stage has a 3X does that 3x count for all 3 runs of the sortie or only the first of 3 runs

[storm heron]

oh no, 3x bonus points only for the first run, the other 2 will not have bonus points

[kindred flicker]

oh okay

[storm heron]

welp gotta try that fleet then, very interesting

[quartz jungle]

You have 4 +13 Sauins?

[storm heron]

I can make another 2

omg nvm

I don't have that many gold plates

I gotta save up for tenrai or second la9

[south sequoia]

welp

looks like im underprepared

guess thats what missing out on pr7 does to you

what makes the new russian tb so good anyways? higher damage compare to ryuusei/jus?

[whole crypt]

if it meets your timing it's slightly more damage than Ryuusei

[south sequoia]

ohh

[whole crypt]

it's the slowest of the converging TBs so fitting it might take some work depending on comp

[idle barn]

i have a question how i can unlock sp part ?

[kindred flicker]

complete hard stages

[idle barn]

ok thx

[whole crypt]

you don't need to complete all hard, just D3

[idle barn]

just D3 ok thx

[kindred flicker]

D3?

[whole crypt]

hard mode of the last stage
with the new event format you don't need to clear everything else on hard to get to it

[kindred flicker]

ohhh

[idle barn]

and its hard to get 200 Ur voucher ?

[whole crypt]

would be difficult if you started late

[idle barn]

i start today so its dead ?

[whole crypt]

you can get it just significantly more difficult/troublesome

[idle barn]

i gonna try the event end when ?

[vale spindle]

Ends wednesday evening server time

You can get over 100 vouchers just from minigame

see pins in this channel for more info

[humble tapir]

what does portlands retrofit do for her?

[vale spindle]

Makes her more tanky

[humble tapir]

js that?

[vale spindle]

Yep
She gains bulk

[dreamy blade]

shes the only ship that doesnt gain a new skill or skill effect from her retrofit

[fast steppe]

what is the slowest a cv can reload and still sync with helena

[humble tapir]

oke tq

[storm heron]

this slow

[fast steppe]

hmm

[storm heron]

shinano's last airstrike barely hit the enemy (assuming 4s travel)

[hollow quartz]

What agument modules are best for CAs, CLs and DDs?

[storm heron]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[vale spindle]

Unique augment if they have one
Otherwise for CA use slash one
For CL it doesnt really matter but i like slash one there too
DD pick which one matches their scaling stat

[fast steppe]

should I just run kazagumo instead of helena then

[vale spindle]

yes

[fast steppe]

feels like I'm sacrificing too much here

wait no my other 2 backliners are BBs

[storm heron]

I mean your 1st and 2nd still sync, just the third one won't

[frank pulsar]

its best to avoid using helena if possible anyway

[fast steppe]

forgot to add

[storm heron]

but again helena is rng

[frank pulsar]

bb have no issues syncing with helena as long as yr using standard 20s gun
if you need to adjust timing you can use hsfcr on bb and sg radar on helena
ideally you dont mix hull types for bossing

[fast steppe]

yes but this is what was recommended to me based on my fleet

[frank pulsar]

then i recommend you give up trying to sync haku to helena and run an aoe loadout

[fast steppe]

aoe?

[tough shuttle]

Guys do I focus my resources into building Roon or start research of another ship to save time? I am quite earlygame, level 47 world 6

This is my progress

[frank pulsar]

dive bombers, parallel torp bombers and bomb fighters

[late flame]

aoe = area of effect , i.e. area coverage

[last swift]

guys, should I choose unicorn or illustrious?

[fast steppe]

this is more or less the fleet btw

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn is one of the best ships in the game because she's the best healer in the game

[frank pulsar]

yr too new to worry about research, get to at least w9 before working on it
just do free research in the meantime

[fast steppe]

except enty bumped to haku

[frank pulsar]

no tank?

[fast steppe]

for taihou meta

don't need one

[frank pulsar]

if its for taiho meta then idk, i havent read up on her

[tough shuttle]

Yeah for research I do free ones but I am talking about the actual ship building. Heard Roon is very good tank

@atomic abyss What do you think man

[late flame]

you heard wrong

[frank pulsar]

shes average, youd build her for her tech point and not because shes an actually good ship

[atomic abyss]

You heard wrong

[vale spindle]

Always have something building, progress saves if you switch later so don't worry about that

[atomic abyss]

Wrong
Admittedly roon just got a massive buff
But the buff didn't make her into a good tank

Good tank would be stuff like Anchorage or Agir

[fast steppe]

so just chuck pancake tenrai wyvern?

[frank pulsar]

use la9 over pancake if you have one

[tough shuttle]

Ah okay. So do I even bothrr building her Later? FdG is strong right, so I want her?

[fast steppe]

or bf109 instead of pancake

no la9

[storm heron]

try using pirate squadron instead of the saiun to make 3 sync possible, or just give up on syncing haku to the third one

[tough shuttle]

Oh my its the guy himself. Okay and thanks for your guides, read them all

[atomic abyss]

You want FdG
If you lack the points to unlock FdG
MLB some German ships

[frank pulsar]

la9 and fockwulf are the only rocket planes that are good against heavy, the rest suck on heavy
just use pancake if you dont have la9 or fockwulf

[fast steppe]

ic

[idle barn]

why i cant start the lvl

[frank pulsar]

if you minmax enough to memorise taiho meta stop timers (if she has any) you can use converging torp instead of parallel torps
too much effort though imho since youll likely two shot regardless

[storm heron]

you have not complete the requirement

[tough shuttle]

1. why do I even want her? I read the abilities and they seem worse then Richelieu, pls explain
2. I am missing "some" points yea xd

[storm heron]

nah she kept moving until the last 30-25s I think

[idle barn]

oh fuck i didint see

[atomic abyss]

Because her stats are much higher
From FP to gun efficiency

Also Richelieu literally only has 2 gun mounts
Most BBs have 3

[frank pulsar]

her stats and skills are both better than richelieu wdym
furthermore fdg has 3 main gun mounts while richelieu only has 2

[atomic abyss]

3 gun mounts means she fires 3 rounds of shells every time she fires her gun
Instead of 2

[tough shuttle]

Oh okay, thanks. Time to grind some german tech then. MLB and level 120 is what gives them right? There was a table with it somewhere but lost it

[frank pulsar]

fdg barrages are just straight up better as well, not to mention her crit buffs

[late flame]

i legit almost typed /mgm

[storm heron]

/mgm

[storm heron]

yeah it's in the https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[atomic abyss]

MLB ideally
120 is a bit difficult for you

[atomic abyss]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that one I'm a bit hesitant to agree with

[tough shuttle]

"A bit" yeah my main fleet is ~85

[storm heron]

nah, 1-90 takes shorter than 90-100

[atomic abyss]

Richy has a focused portion

So there are cases where she will be better than FdG

[tough shuttle]

Actually how do I level ships when I only have one fleet and its wishy washy like mine is. Dead ship = bad right so I wanna avoid that

[storm heron]

for comparison, we can see that 90 is just less than 20% of getting to 120

[idle barn]

i need all my fleet lvl 100 so

[atomic abyss]

In the first place, since FdG is your first UR, you will likely plonk her on boss

[south sequoia]

fdgs barrage is better technically speaking if we focus on her radius barrage, her on shot barrage its debatable

[atomic abyss]

You'll still want Richy on mob

[tough shuttle]

At least its not like PoE where 1-99 is same 99-100

[atomic abyss]

Exp packs, commissions etc

[storm heron]

dorm, exp pack, comission yeah those will be main sources

[tough shuttle]

Oh so I dont swap ships into my fleet to level them in sortie?

[atomic abyss]

You do when they are sufficiently levelled?

[storm heron]

if they survive then sure, you can take 1 tank vanguard and 1 main fleet damager from your main fleet to help level

[tough shuttle]

I see. So just make them higu enough to live and off they go slaving for xp

[fast steppe]

also if I'm not syncing haku to Helena why run aoe instead of conv? lack of slow?

[storm heron]

yea you run aoe because of lack of slow, it's not really related to helena

[jaunty vault]

fdg does too

[tough shuttle]

Do I focus high rarity ships for MLB for more tech points?

[fast steppe]

cause if I wasn't syncing to Helena I'd have just chucked ryuseis but

[storm heron]

[fast steppe]

aoe it is ig

[storm heron]

might as well chucked ryuusei to maximize your first 2 syncs

[tough shuttle]

All I have from iron blood is this

[fast steppe]

but without slow will they land

[storm heron]

but u know what, nvm all of that, taihou moves so much on the first 2

[fast steppe]

hm

[storm heron]

just use parralel

even wyvern would do

[fast steppe]

aight

[gilded carbon]

i loath to do it, but is Fritz worth the gameplay-aspect to invest into cubes for her pity?

[fast steppe]

between pancake and tigercat which has more surface dmg

[storm heron]

invest to cubes, you mean in-game purchases?

[jaunty vault]

lower rarity ships are easier to limit break so its better to do them if possible
bulin prio goes to higher rarity ships

[atomic abyss]

Equal

[storm heron]

same surface damage

[gilded carbon]

there should be easily available Ironblood ships from the Shop and the permanent events

[fast steppe]

aight

[gilded carbon]

yeah.

[final heart]

I just got fritz, help me build her pls 👉 👈

[gilded carbon]

im at 3/4th pity and no cubes left

[storm heron]

well it's up to you, but instant cube sources kinda sux, maybe there's someone here that can give you guide on that

[late flame]

i do buy cubes from gems from time to time (since i lack farming time) but yeah its not worth

[storm heron]

iirc the most value for instant is just gems -> cube, which is like 300 for 11, kinda expensive

[gilded carbon]

yeah

[storm heron]

try looking through the packs and find the cheapest one if you kinda value your money less than frits. We wouldn't really try to influence your financial dcisions, but we can try finding the best worth

[gilded carbon]

very much so. I thought of getting the cruise-missions unlocked and use both their cubes and their gems if needed. Tbh, i care little for Fritz Rumey

[barren barn]

Should i do B3 hard to access D1?

[gilded carbon]

i dont need her and i will be happy without her

[late flame]

then wait for her rerun

[storm heron]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[storm heron]

access D1 through B1

[fast steppe]

though tbh I wonder if running haku like this will out damage enty with converging

[gilded carbon]

the later part is really one of the 2 things iask for. The othr one if she is that good in gameplay

[tropic tusk]

He said should he tho

[barren barn]

I done B1 hard

[fast steppe]

I'll experiment ig

[idle barn]

how i can upgrade the AVI

[late flame]

CV, i.e. carriers

[paper agate]

aviation submarines

[barren barn]

Ah mb@storm heron

[plain saffron]

subs doesn't count

[final heart]

some advice, anyone?

[eternal basalt]

BBV'S (Kearsage)

[storm heron]

try reading the equipment guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
planes that is reasonable should be a combination of hellcat/seafang/equivalent, helldiver, and barracuda/br8/equivalent

[paper agate]

that's crazy, the more you know

[storm heron]

nope although she is excellent, she is not that good in casual* gameplay nor that she helps as big magnitude as some other ships I know, you can definitely live without her, and owning her doesn't give you much perceived power, you will only appreciate her over others in high campaign stages (which doesn't matter if you are staying in 12-4 like most players) or bossing (which doesn't matter cause you can just use other things like battleships which is easier to use and still clear and get rewards with negligible difference in the big picture compared to some player who use her)

[gilded carbon]

look into the small events, the ones that usually give you skins. YOu know wich ones i mean? There is a Submarine from the IB too. Easily gotten tech

[gilded carbon]

Thank you

[patent raft]

Is it tech point can gain by repeating same ship girl maxed limits break 2 or more?

[storm heron]

@gilded carbon

[coarse heron]

Okay can somebody explain this to me: AvP 22.71 Amagi 22.57 Shinano 22.88 yet August is the one launching first
Do I need to put her in a different spot on the main fleet

[wind hazel]

no, ship only register once, their copies don't register another time

[patent raft]

Oh

[sharp socket]

she has +10% rld buff when using IB plane

[storm heron]

is this considering avp's rld buff

[patent raft]

Might be difficult find new and maxed

[sharp socket]

it is not taken into account ingame

[barren barn]

Should i try building all my ur ships?

Or some aren't good

[gilded carbon]

Noted. So she is the definition of "Niche"

[coarse heron]

Oh I got pranked by the game not showing RLD buffs again
Amazing

[sharp socket]

just use lars calculator https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[gilded carbon]

good, very much so, in the right context but replaceable with other, more available options?

[coarse heron]

Man I’m not filling that out on my phone

I’ll figure it out later I guess

[tough shuttle]

I do not know. I searched shops but idk which of these are Iron Blood

[wind hazel]

all URs are good.
question is whether you can max limit break all of them or not

[tropic tusk]

i could be missing some

[gilded carbon]

among those? Admiral Graf Spee and all Ships that have the U-(Number)

and Hipper, yes

[final heart]

what's fritz's skill priority?

[coarse heron]

All

[tropic tusk]

and z25

[tough shuttle]

Okay I will buy them when I can

[final heart]

I intend to but which one first?

[coarse heron]

Literally doesn’t matter since you won’t be using her before they’re all level 10

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms use this if you want to focus ironblood faction point

there are other faction included there for future reference

[tough shuttle]

Also I have 4 gold bulins and 0 good carriers, do I MLB Graf Zepellin?

[sharp socket]

saratoga

[fast steppe]

btw for this fleet do I want VG to have champy gun or 457

[storm heron]

well about replacability it's doubt, since people haven't tested her compatibility and synergy yet, but in my philosophy, if a ship is not extremely powerful (like musashi-level that can literally bring a new player to one fleet 12-4, or implacable that can solve all campaign and bossing issues) then I would say I can definitely live without the ship.

[kind slate]

I will get 6 ur bulins soon including cruise and event. Should I go for z52, rumey or upcoming Yorktown?

[tropic tusk]

u need purple bulin for her

[fast steppe]

both +10

[wind hazel]

you can level them all to 6/6/6 then max them one by one

[final heart]

ty ty

[tough shuttle]

??? No?0

[tame jungle]

graf zeppelin is a gold mate

[tropic tusk]

oh wait mb

[sharp socket]

do you have a saratoga, retro her and shes better

[fast steppe]

and for a hakuryuu with aoe layout should I use helldiver or wyvern in the db/tb slot

[gilded carbon]

fair. In all honesty, i was mostly parroting the way guides voice it.

[tropic tusk]

i got messed up with another one

[sharp socket]

you can use your gold bulins on someone else more worthwhile

[wind hazel]

exp farming? fighter db tb, flap helldiver wyvern

[fast steppe]

for bossing but no slow

[wind hazel]

tb db tb

[storm heron]

wyvern tenrai wyvern if you can

[fast steppe]

no second wyvern does skypirate work

[wind hazel]

why no slow

[storm heron]

+and boss move much btw, important, some boss doesn't move

[fast steppe]

long story short apparently my best fleet for taihou meta is haku VG uvh

[wind hazel]

im not qualified to help then

[storm heron]

Idk who helped you before, but that looks okay tbh, maybe you can 2 shot

[fast steppe]

up here

[barren barn]

Hi what stage should i farm in event

[storm heron]

Look at the pins

[barren barn]

Ty

[wind hazel]

just run a test, one run using wyvern, another using tb, see which give you better result

[fast steppe]

aight

[storm heron]

converging tb

[wind hazel]

im inclined to say wyvern will probably give better result

[storm heron]

yeah given how taihou keep spawning the ship friends

combined with no slow too

[sharp socket]

cheeky just didnt consider that haku not being d30 and jean bart right there

[wind hazel]

cheeky recommended enterprise

[storm heron]

also enty > haku pre fs3 iirc

[sharp socket]

well thats a new one

i also cant check if jean bart was the good french BB cause wiki is down

[wind hazel]

i think i would use enterprise than dev30 haku too

[storm heron]

bruh backend maintenance, I checked ship exp just now

[minor brook]

So is cesare meta showing well? or it trash for late game?

[storm heron]

well we always have the ever so friendly ectl

[sharp socket]

i guess not then

[wind hazel]

tech ship

[storm heron]

good for late game as someone who sit in your dock after 120 after giving hit tech

[minor brook]

i see,thx buds.

[kind slate]

who should i be aiming for in terms of UR mlb? i'll have 6 bulins soon

[tropic tusk]

depends wht u aiming for

tech? fleet useage? others?

[kind slate]

probs fleet usage? i havent started worrying abt tech yet

[tropic tusk]

wt ur do u have

[atomic abyss]

Can we see all your URs, MLB ones included?

[atomic abyss]

Z52

Do get the dupe first tho to save a bulin

[tropic tusk]

could i use z52 along side with laffey2?

[atomic abyss]

For w15? Yes lmao

[kind slate]

should i mlb her now? cuz i can get the 2nd copy rn

[atomic abyss]

If you have the coins sure

[tropic tusk]

should i z52 first or yk2 first?

[kind slate]

after her, would i be looking for yorktown? or someone else?

[tough shuttle]

Guys honest question are you guaranteed to pull carriers from event when it is an SR ship? This is my 5th one out of 5 SRs from event

[wind hazel]

no

[late flame]

sir, this is a gacha

[atomic abyss]

Depends on the event banner
This event banner has carriers
Others may have battleships

Also congrats on getting one of the best carriers in the game

[storm heron]

z52 vs ykII
I would mlb z52 first
See below for ender's explanation

[tough shuttle]

Oh shit no way I finally pulled a good carrier?! Lets goooo. MLB and slap it into main fleet?

[spring bolt]

well she's much harder to get than all URs in the banner...

[atomic abyss]

If you have less than 3 MLB UR CV, yk2
Otherwise reconsider

[tropic tusk]

aquila is in heavy or special?

[fast steppe]

I'm probably skill issued but what's the strat to clear supply line disruption top diff? ignore the money ships?

[wind hazel]

special

[atomic abyss]

Carrier so special

[barren barn]

I fail sp1

[ashen crow]

I got problems with bomb boats, any tips to defend from them?

[white agate]

man complaining about getting a top tier ship

[atomic abyss]

Use battleships

[ashen crow]

I already do

[atomic abyss]

Kill 2 money ships
Check the S clear conditions

[wind hazel]

give them good secondary guns

[atomic abyss]

Let's see the fleet then

[storm heron]

might be sarcasm

[kind slate]

what is yorktown even used for? also on the same topic, whats good abt z52?

[tropic tusk]

i have Hakuryuu, shinano only , so i should yk2 right?

[atomic abyss]

If you have the resources sure

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely

[tough shuttle]

How would I know, I dont remember the tierlist from top of my head after a aweek

[atomic abyss]

Big damage, especially against light and med
Also very strong fighter cover to beat planes
Also a good buffer for the good American carriers

[atomic abyss]

Z52 does everything Plymouth does, but better in most areas

[atomic abyss]

Move Giulio to the middle, problem solved

[ashen crow]

This is my fleet

[storm heron]

hmm I guess I was underselling ykII. Shouldn't have had opinions about her when I don't know her well

[ashen crow]

It has less hp though

[tough shuttle]

And look what I pulled before, you would be sceptical too

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't matter, BBs should ALWAYS be in flag precisely so you can kill suicide boats

[tropic tusk]

y not use computer ss

[kind slate]

whattt. so after z52, ill be doing yk2 and rumey later?

[spring bolt]

she works for both mob and boss, as she is a support, providing healing and shield
and she can be configured into preload mode which is very good for speeding up farming

[tough shuttle]

@atomic abyss I assume I replace ranger with Aquila immedietely?

[ashen crow]

My laptop is slower than my phone

[tropic tusk]

y not ss in phone

[atomic abyss]

No. Yk2 first

[tough shuttle]

Oh she is healer? So I replace Unicorn?

[ashen crow]

Don’t use discord on phone

[tropic tusk]

no u keep uni

[atomic abyss]

No, she is a secondary healer used to support unicorn
There is no unicorn replacement

[tropic tusk]

but arent u taking photo with ur phone?

[atomic abyss]

Why are you harping over that

[kind slate]

? u told me to do z52 first tho..

[ashen crow]

Tablet

[tough shuttle]

Damn okay. Unicorn busted

[tropic tusk]

idk xD

[atomic abyss]

No?
I told you z52 is strong
That doesn't mean she is higher priority to MLB

[left cedar]

techinically have Unicorn replacement, but they are less effective, such as Klaudia and Percy

[atomic abyss]

Backliners are always going to be higher priority to MLB unless you already have alternatives

[kind slate]

wait did u just mean that shes strong but yk better?

[atomic abyss]

So if you say already have 3 mlb UR CVs lying around, then yeah z52

What's the best to prioritize always depends on what you ALREADY have

[tropic tusk]

so if i have avp should i still go for yk2?

[atomic abyss]

If you don't even have 3 MLB UR CVs
Why would you go MLB-ing the DD?

[atomic abyss]

What, they do COMPLETELY different things

[frank pulsar]

ofc
and also, avp is a stop support and ykii is a dps

[atomic abyss]

Are you thinking of Implacable? Even then AvP is worse than Implacable

[tropic tusk]

i mean u said 3 cv or alt, so i have hakuryuu, shinano , avp

[atomic abyss]

There are some cases where you don't need a slow

[tropic tusk]

ohhh

[atomic abyss]

There are some cases where yk2 is better than Haku/Nano

And think about it
You want 3 CV + uni for campaign anyways

[frank pulsar]

ykii is best with kearsarge from pr6
also, yorkii is best for light, yr current setup is better for heavy
and to add to what ender said, yorkii is very strong in campaign

[tough shuttle]

Blue hellcat or purple seafang for Aquila?

[atomic abyss]

Purple seafang

[tropic tusk]

so i still need yk2 then ok

[atomic abyss]

Why would you not try to roll for a limited UR you don't have

[spring bolt]

well as current meta is heavy, neither fritz and yk2 is useful there, while z52 can replace unzen

[tropic tusk]

i will roll just want to know why her over others

[atomic abyss]

Best for anti light in the game still

[atomic abyss]

And she operates fine without mlb...

[tropic tusk]

i havent missed a single banner after the ninja collab

[atomic abyss]

Whereas MLB yk2 and fritz are still extremely useful for someone without full UR CVs

...frankly I think we're gonna see more and more people skip Haku as time goes by

[storm heron]

skipped haku and went for prVII immediately

[tough shuttle]

How do I swap her into preload mode? It says 2nd gear slot bomber but I cant put that there

[ashen crow]

I got all ships from this event, who do I mlb first from the 2 ur ships?

[storm heron]

just level her first, she's not even 1lb there

[tropic tusk]

fritz or yk2 in this case or they different use?

[ashen crow]

I’m new so I don’t have access to many ur bulins

[atomic abyss]

Max limit break her

[tropic tusk]

over time u will have

[atomic abyss]

Fritz Rumey

Once you have 4

If you can't MLB her yet don't bother half investing

[ashen crow]

4 lm then I can use her?

[spring bolt]

the function is unlocked with 3rd limit break so need to level her first

[atomic abyss]

You need 3 to max limit break her
Then she'll actually be better than other carriers

[storm heron]

depends on how new you are, you can unlock z52's potential much sooner instead of fritz

[ashen crow]

I dont really have many carriers, just unicorn, Saratoga and taihou

[atomic abyss]

Shinano receives more from the amagi buff
So blame amagi
Haku doesn't freeze

[atomic abyss]

And they're all better than her till she is MLB

[ashen crow]

I’m also trying to get a replacement for my bb

[tropic tusk]

nani? wht do u mean

[storm heron]

what UR do you have again? was it up there

[atomic abyss]

The one that kicked out Haku is Amagi

[tropic tusk]

u want cv or all ur

[atomic abyss]

Previously if you needed a freeze
You'd go Implacable Shinano Hakuryuu

[storm heron]

like all UR

[atomic abyss]

Amagi just buffs Shinano more than Hakuryuu

So Hakuryuu gets booted out if a freeze is needed

Hakuryuu is far less fussy about team comp anyways

[storm heron]

Have someone looked at your dock before?

[ashen crow]

A while back

I’m trying to get kgv rn

[storm heron]

bruh why you cut kear's stars and all

[atomic abyss]

Kgv was in medal shop right...?

[storm heron]

could you please retake

[spring bolt]

well before fritz is a thing, amagi works better as a +1 than haku in both kear-yk2 comp for light boss and nakh-soyuz comp for med boss...

[ashen crow]

Not rn sadly

[tropic tusk]

2nd picutre

[storm heron]

NVM IM SLEEPY

[tropic tusk]

[ashen crow]

I’m also thinking about replacing taihou with saratoga

[storm heron]

huh... you doesn't have a lot of good BBs

[atomic abyss]

Wiki down for maint btw

[tropic tusk]

yea waiting zwei rerun

i did only play since the ninja collab , i havent missed a single banner since then man , its the best i can do

[storm heron]

what a very tough decision

[tropic tusk]

yep so many i should mlb yet can only choose 1

[storm heron]

at this point it's not even about z52 and ykII, but also implacable, alsace, soyuz, unzen, rumey

[tropic tusk]

i already play daily non stop , the only limit i have is the token lock per month thats gate keeping me

[spring bolt]

tbh given the fact you have no implac, to get most out of URs you might want to max nakh asap
oh one more thing: if you haven't enhanced soyuz yet, hold for now, as she will have better sync with lower rld

[storm heron]

I suggest we wait tbh

I want to hear what other say

[tropic tusk]

so i should wait for yk2?

[atomic abyss]

Z52

Would be more beneficial imo

[tropic tusk]

i thought u said need 3 UR cv

[spring bolt]

you already have it, the ijn carriers

[storm heron]

idk I'm leaning toward ykII since you're lacking light options

[tropic tusk]

oh yea i got amagi ur lol forgot

[storm heron]

will ykII kear enty save you

[wet badge]

Can some1 give me the fleet planner thingy

[storm heron]

but then ykII kear enty won't overpower light entirely if you don't have hvars...

[storm heron]

you mean this? https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[wet badge]

Ye ty

[white agate]

is there a CV with a strong crossfleet barrage?

and by strong i mean a bit lower in power than alsace soyuz musashi barrage

[tough shuttle]

Holy shit Admiral Hipper makes my fleet SOOOOOOO slow

[warm flax]

Why even use her

[spring bolt]

no all CV cross fleet barrages are shit compared to BB's
it's like musa > alsace > soyuz = nj >>> vg = bis2 >> cv barrages, and uvh crossfleet for defense

[ashen crow]

Any tips for 6-4, I can’t get past it

[warm flax]

I'd suggest making a thread

[ashen crow]

Stuck at stage 6-4

[frank quartz]

I'm struggling at w12-3, any guides or tips to beat it?

[late flame]

AA carry and / or add more carriers (oops thats for w13)

no wait world 12 sounds like gear/levels issue

[spring bolt]

what are you using and what's the issue?

[white agate]

f, i hoped at least someone to be vanguard level

[frank quartz]

Or maybe I am just not using proper gears

[late flame]

does sound like gear issue

[spring bolt]

what's the issue? who died or close to die so you retreated?

[frank quartz]

Pretty much everyone lol

[spring bolt]

mob or boss?

[warm flax]

Sus

[upbeat wagon]

should i pull in next event banner?

[frank quartz]

Boss

[tidal owl]

What’s a good way to up my commander level I just beat chapter 7 and need to hit 60 before I can do chapter 8

[spring bolt]

ok that sounds like serious gear issue...
make a thread, post all gears you are using now and post your gear depot, let's see if we can fix this...

[fallow sedge]

Currently at chap 10-3 how hard chap 11 can be?

[wind hazel]

harder than c10

[runic lagoon]

Are gems a money only currency or can you reliably get them f2p?

[wind hazel]

either repeat 7-4 or look into war archives

[spring bolt]

mob: stronger suicide ships and stronger enemy bbs, but you can overlevel your ships
boss: 11-4 boss has fp based torps with higher damage to light armor, so use med/heavy armor tanks

[wind hazel]

reliable gems from permanent missions won't exceed certain amount, i think 5k ish or something. other than those are anniversary and chinese new year gifts from devs, which are annually. the rest are RNG incomes from commissions

[kind slate]

Who’s the flagship with the mech? Looks so cool

[wind hazel]

USS Indiana

[kind slate]

She good? Kinda looks like guam

[wind hazel]

pretty good for SSR BB

if you don't have her you won't get her until 2026 earliest 😂

[spring bolt]

top tier for gold bbs, but not rainbow bb level except warspite

[kind slate]

What why. Is she event limited?

[wind hazel]

yeah from our anniversary few months ago

[kind slate]

Nooo

[kindred flicker]

who to pick from UR exchange

[gilded carbon]

Who do you have already. If None, Shinano.

[kindred flicker]

i got none so big sword ladyt?

[ocean trout]

how do i make space?

[gilded carbon]

I believe was the rule of thumb here

[wind hazel]

shinano until mlb>nj/uvh>shimakaze

[wind hazel]

use them to craft purple ones

[spring bolt]

use as enhance material for the one you want to max

[ocean trout]

it doesnt let me

[kindred flicker]

how to get more exp books

[tame jungle]

don't craft, just select a sword and you can enhance it

[ocean trout]

thank you!

[barren barn]

Hi what should i buy in event shop

[wind hazel]

check the spreadsheet on pin

[kindred flicker]

where to get more exp books

[gilded carbon]

Please refer to #event-faq there is a prio list there

[gilded carbon]

In Mass? Nowhere

[tame jungle]

either 💳 for the purple ones or wait for your lecture hall to produce them

lecture hall filled by using lv100+ ships

[kindred flicker]

anywhere to buy w ingame curreny?

[kindred flicker]

how do i do that?

[barren barn]

Building fleets

Can someone help

[whole crypt]

T2s are only part of the paid cruise pass and the lv70 booster pack
T1s are in the commander level packs
I wouldn't really recommend buying either

[ivory pawn]

A % of exp earned by lvl 100+ ships also goes to the lecture hall to be converted to exp books, once you’ve unlocked it.

[elfin hollow]

so I wanna nurture Z23 Further, but i am short of purple and gold upgrade materials. Would swapping Z23's purple quad with Duisburg's Quintiple be okay?

I'm short of upgrade books tho

[frank pulsar]

use a yellow quad mag
if you dont have one then use purple triple mag torp
yellow quint mag torp is just

[elfin hollow]

i think I have a triple gold, and a bunch of quad torps surplus XD

I'll equip them once enhanced

[spring bolt]

the torp in event shop is much better than both

[elfin hollow]

yeah I have it in Hipster META

i thought it's a her gear

[forest palm]

it's not a gear exclusively for one ship, it functions on just about any ship some worse than others which Hipper Meta is

[spring bolt]

duisburg is much worse than hipper meta btw...

[forest palm]

when the Germans have the best torpedo mount, but almost all German ships suck with torpedos

[tough shuttle]

Admiral Hiper keeps dying smh... I just need to MLB you how bout you cooperate

[tropic tusk]

is there a link so seeing which cat passive n all that is good?

[spring bolt]

not sure what you want to see but probably you can find it on wiki
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Meowfficer

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[tropic tusk]

so i see these , i should just copy the best on it right?

how should i read this

[whole crypt]

core talents are the most important for the cat's value and function, you should look to start with a cat that has at least 1-2 of those talents and level them/take them with level ups

[elfin hollow]

How to get combat data pack

[whole crypt]

so BB cats for example there the main talents you want are the ones that improve shelling damage

[whole crypt]

are you at least commander lv50

[tropic tusk]

so i can ignore skill?

like just focus on talent n ignore cat skill?

[elfin hollow]

Lv 60 rn

[ivory pawn]

You just want the skill to match, i.e bb cat gets bb talents. Cat skills are set based on cat name.

[whole crypt]

skills are fixed to the cat you pick, so say, every Lime has the same skill and you raise that by feeding more Limes to a base Lime, your only "choice" is with talents

[tropic tusk]

oh so skills are fixed

[glossy granite]

Finally i have retrofited my unicorn 😭

[tropic tusk]

oh ok thx

[whole crypt]

the cats usually will start with at least 1 talent that's in the orientation for the cat, but it might not always be a good one

[whole crypt]

have you built/upgraded lecture hall

[wind hazel]

you get them from rookie mission or cruise mission

analyze all of them into protocore

[whole crypt]

oh wait combat data pack I EN'd and thought XP packs

[tropic tusk]

so i i have talent thats like iron blood it becomes useless right?

[whole crypt]

yeh research missions and cruise only

[whole crypt]

the faction talents are generally meh, if not bad

[elfin hollow]

IIRC there's one cat that allows you an additional ammo slot for your submarine fleet

I have the cat but I'm too busy to check who's who.

I just strapped it to the subs when I saw the skill

[kind slate]

I’m using this fleet for opsi cv fleet, but it’s dmg seems a bit weak. I’ve synced it with Avp but

Can someone tell me why

[elfin hollow]

Who's the ship on your flag's right?

[wind hazel]

gear issues, most likely

[kind slate]

Avp

[wind hazel]

what are they using? against what boss

[south sequoia]

August von parseval

[kind slate]

pls wait a bit. I’m getting photos

[whole crypt]

there are cats that extend hunt range but I don't remember one that adds sub ammo off the top of my head

[kind slate]

Sorry here it is. I’m using them against the heavy armour enforcers

[paper ridge]

Hello folks, I'm a bit of a noob, lvl twenty something, I am trying to start with a correct fleet so that I can avoid gachaing for a while. If you can tell me if my current fleet will allow me to go far chapter 4 rn)

Flagship colorado , unicorn , giulio cesare META, Portland , Shimakaze, Duisburg

I also got : Takao, Prinz Eugen, Richelieu, Saratoga

PS: I'm not looking for the most op ship possible, just a good average team that can do the job

[wind hazel]

your shinano is 125?

looks like 125 here sussy

[plain saffron]

Where

[kind slate]

Oh sorry forgot to adjust that

[wind hazel]

either way you want to try slowing down your other ship, avp is launching last

[kind slate]

I’m using a calc and Avp launches 2nd.

[wind hazel]

try this

this is 0 rld

but either way, if your previous set up has no difficulty in hitting the enemy, the damage shouldn't be bad

it will only be bad if they whiff

[whole crypt]

does that include AvP's RLD buff

[wind hazel]

yes lars calculator includes it

[whole crypt]

but yeh "a bit weak" doesn't really say much, it should still maim abyssals fine unless you run into 20s shield

arbs will be a bit more rough, and the usual having enough adapts

[kind slate]

These are the timings I have. Sorry for image spam

[wanton dawn]

why is it when ppl are talking abt submarines it is either 3 fish or 3 U, can they not mix tgt in a team?

[wind hazel]

you included your rld tech i assume?

[wanton dawn]

im aware that 3 fish is always better but im just slightly confused

[wind hazel]

if that setup works like that ingame, then it's fine, don't change it

[kind slate]

Yea

[kind slate]

Ok I’ll have to adjust a bit tho when amagi loves me. Thnx for help. What could I do to enhance the dmg?

[wind hazel]

they have synergy when they are together. if you mix them, they become less potent

[wind hazel]

honestly nothing much other than getting 3rd tenrai on avp, better vanguard gear etc. but this is already very good for 2 tenrais

[kind slate]

Kk thnx for advice :)

[wind hazel]

and of course 125 your amagi and avp

[ivory pawn]

Looks mostly alright. Main two changes I’d make initially is swap Guilo for Saratoga, and Shimakaze for your starter DD (Javelin, Laffey, Z23). The former’s an upgrade, the latter saves you oil and you’ll want to level them anyways for mission rewards. Should also swap Duisburg for Helena ideally.
Check out https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips if you haven’t yet too.

[paper ridge]

thank you, I don't like Helena though :p

[wanton dawn]

is it the eagle buff from archerfish?

[ivory pawn]

That’s fair. The RNG on her buff, strong as it may be, is a pain. She’s the least important to swap in anyways, was more to raise someone useful and save gold bullins.

[wind hazel]

ye and wolf buff on the wolfpack subs

[wispy cosmos]

us subs are fine being mixed unless youre minmaxing an endgame comp, it's the kms ones that dont like it

[whole crypt]

U boats all buff each other to some extent, except 47, but she still counts as a U-boat for other U-boat wolfpakcs
fishpack I think Flasher is more substantial, I think Archerfish is the one that gets dropped if you use Homura

[paper ridge]

Is Duisburg a strong ship that's a question though ? I mean late game

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head nothing stands out for Duisburg for lategame

[paper ridge]

ok, thanks

[ivory pawn]

She does give good tech at least iirc.

[paper ridge]

I still need one vangard that can go late game

takao and eugen are quite old and not really meta if I get it alright

Portland I will retrofit to keep as long as possible

[wind hazel]

there aren't many ships that can go late game that you can obtain early on

[ivory pawn]

You’re not running any other gold ships atm, if you really don’t want to run Helena you won’t lose out raising Duisburg.

[whole crypt]

San Diego is great lategame

but if you're not there yet honestly raising ships later is fine

[paper ridge]

san diego with anti air yeah saw that

[whole crypt]

Sandy does much more than just AA nowadays in 14/15

[paper ridge]

I thought it was kinda cool too, and looks are important amaright

[wind hazel]

sirius i guess?

if you have the CL medal rotation lol

[whole crypt]

resources and XP become more readily available as you get later in the game so there's no need to try to keep to a ship that stays useful through lategame early on

[paper ridge]

Idk what you're talking about, haven't documented myself enough, 4th day of playing

[wind hazel]

then forget about choosing lol

[paper ridge]

but I was not too far off a viable team

[whole crypt]

if you're on day 4 then I recommend just sticking with the budget starter options there's no point trying to get ahead on lategame options

[glossy granite]

Who to retrofit first between laffey, helena and portland?

[wind hazel]

port>laf>>>>>>>>>>>>helena

[paper ridge]

I'll put saratoga isntead of giulio, and put giulio in team 2

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure you're not really in a position to use 2 fleets if you're on day 4 unless you bought the lv70 booster

[paper ridge]

I'll retrofit colorado / portland / unicorn

I didn't buy it, I just use one fleet, but I bought the pass, so I decided to boost giulio, like the barrage

[ivory pawn]

Uni first.
Saratoga’s got a good retrofit/augment too, and again you’ll want to level and retrofit your starter DD for free stuff.

[paper ridge]

fair enough

I thought shima would be go to invest in, it was literally my first pull after tutorial

I'll keep her for later

just discovered you need special bullin to raise her

[wind hazel]

you will be benching her for a long, long time..

[fast steppe]

should i use pr7 prints if i don't have anyone from pr7/6 to use them on or just hold

[paper ridge]

So all in all, Colorado Unicorn Saratoga Portland Laffey Duisburg [and maybe sandy to unlock]
Would roon u be better than Duisburg, I saw it costs 1500 data cores

[glossy granite]

Wtf why is retrofiting laffey so expensive

retrofiting unicorn felt much cheaper

[whole crypt]

retrofitting is expensive in general if you try to do too many nodes in a go

[ivory pawn]

Definitely not. Better to spend those on white/black shells initially.

[glossy granite]

I swear to god cuz i am lowkey new, cant save coins for a single minute 😭

[whole crypt]

coins won't get better before you seriously hit up oil cap

[gilded carbon]

What gear isnt salvagable? And how can i Lock Gear to not fatfinger it?

[glossy granite]

I had like 24K oil not in bank btw, always maxed oil few days ago now i am at 1K

Never did i think it would come the day i would spend all my oil 😭

[whole crypt]

the gear pieces you should really be careful with are hedgehog and any of those aux gear from collection

but you shouldn't be able to dismantle them in a single fatfinger

[glossy granite]

Also is there any other effective way to get these prints for retrofit cuz you cant play hard mode more than 3 times a day

[gilded carbon]

I cant even see the hedgehog when i salvage gear

[whole crypt]

some gear require confirmation to scrap and don't appear in the mass scrap menu

[gilded carbon]

I looked, out of curiosity

[whole crypt]

but if you're out of space just getting rid of grey gear first is safe

there's only a small handful of blues that are useful and all of them are replaceable

[gilded carbon]

Good to know. Thank you.

I only scrap grey-purple Gear.

What about this event-gear? Like that handkerchief-thung we got before the current Event?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II should still pretty much cover what we have now

[gilded carbon]

I suppose that wont Show up either? Unless actively pursued?

[whole crypt]

the purple event prelude auxes are usually flavour HP auxes, they rarely serve any real function, but they're also not permanently irreplaceable as it seems

all the older archived events have their prelude auxes added to core shop off the top of my head

[gilded carbon]

Fair. Just keep and collect then. If i cant accidentally scrap them.

Thank you, you took a great amount of worry off my chest there

[whole crypt]

just use the safe to scrap list, it basically covers most of the shit you'll ever need to clear out of depot

[gilded carbon]

I will use it when Space is tight. Currently im well below the 200-mark

[viscid swift]

Just throw any unused gear on ships you're not using

[whole crypt]

I've given up on depot management

[paper ridge]

duly noted, thank you

[fast steppe]

what contributes to the number of opsi shop tickets i'll get at reset? is there any point to holding on to special item tokens

only stuff i have left to buy is the meta mats

[jaunty vault]

yeah they do contribute to vouchers

[ivory pawn]

Those get converted 1 to 1 to vouchers.

[fast steppe]

aight so just hold on to them?

[jaunty vault]

ye

[paper mural]

Does Kalk drop from Fallen Wings missions in the war archives?

[jaunty vault]

you can check what gets converted and what gets deleted in your opsi storage

[jaunty vault]

kalk only drops from light build pool so no
war archives also don't have any missions from og/rerun events

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Reset

[fast steppe]

is there any way to change my guild support after the guild boss pops up

[languid reef]

nah cuz aint no way i brought prinz eugen/admiral hipper to do like 50> runs just to figure out i was tryna complete the missions on the wrong difficulty

i needa learn how to read

[vestal glen]

do i have to make a thread if i want to ask for help in team building?

[jaunty vault]

depends really

[languid reef]

in my defense why wouldnt doing the same mission but harder not also contribute to the mission progress

[jaunty vault]

if you have like one or two screenshots, you're probably fine asking here

[vestal glen]

hmm aight

[languid reef]

at least my prinz eugen is level 120 tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jaunty vault]

:modcheck:

[vestal glen]

this is what i have rn

[languid reef]

bros way better at team building than i was at this stage

[vestal glen]

what i have in dock

[languid reef]

not sure if sakawa in front is the best idea tho

[vestal glen]

im asking more on tips to improve, i got the teambuilding ideas from ender and mac

[keen sable]

That particular sakawa is currently trash

[vestal glen]

no kidding, ender actually told me to move to front

not blaming him tho, anyways so what can i do to improve this

P.S. i also have 1 UR bulin and an extra Z52 in a few days

[fast steppe]

which would you rather borrow

[bold stream]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[languid reef]

well tbf you dont have a lot of tanks leveled up at all

[vestal glen]

thats true

oh ye is it worth it to go for any pr 1 ships?

[keen sable]

Chuck sakawa for mipper, middy for enty. Use like houshou or something until enty is mlb. Z52 next ur. Where's nelson?

Well nelson or Maryland for gd

[vestal glen]

dun have nelson i think, must have gotten scrapped by accident

[keen sable]

At the very least they give you meta gear. They may even be usable in 2 months

[keen sable]

She's rng unless you finished rookie 2

Maryland is a guaranteed ship

[vestal glen]

wait why maryland again?

[keen sable]

1. You can't afford gd.
2. She's good after retrofit
3. She's free

[vestal glen]

whats gd?

[keen sable]

Golden darkness

[vestal glen]

oh nvm

[viscid swift]

Well they can

[vestal glen]

btw, just saying that this is a lvl 71 account

[keen sable]

You have 3 gold bulins and need 11...

[vestal glen]

mate i did not ss the bulins.....

• the extra 3 that i acciddentally used on comissions

[keen sable]

Or is that funny ss and 11?

[viscid swift]

You were saying

[tropic tusk]

so many ss bulins and say u dont have u dont even know wht u have

[vestal glen]

yeah i have 14 gold bulins after sorting....my bad i also forgot to say. but i think im gonna die from coins requirement first

[tropic tusk]

click the paw

[vestal glen]

i did but it said researching tactics

[keen sable]

I would still consider avoiding gd if possible and richy makes it slightly possible.

There's a benefit to accumulating tech

[mellow cape]

I do most gold researches so nearly every single day I'll farm 4 12-4's just to fund researches gold management only gets easier later on

[keen sable]

Do you have her aug anyway? (Golden darkness)

[vestal glen]

hmmm.....so aside from enterprise, i sub gd for maryland and meta hipper for sakawa? also im curious how i can get meta hipper starred up?

[vestal glen]

wait whats aug again?

[keen sable]

Raise Richelieu since enough bulins

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[keen sable]

The alternative would be to rush sandy

[vestal glen]

huuh?

[vestal glen]

aight so richilieu for gd right?

[keen sable]

The gold thing that goes into 6th gear slot

[vestal glen]

hmm

[keen sable]

Buy the crystals from event shop

[vestal glen]

dont even have mlb yet

[vestal glen]

too broke, focused on getting z52

[paper mural]

Are C2 fractured seas worth doing after others that are C3+?

[vestal glen]

wait im drunken

nvm my bad, misread the whole thing

[keen sable]

Farm more

[paper ridge]

what would the best gun be for colorado ? I have the purple triple he that's not bad but I also have a big he quadruple with longer reaload in gold

[keen sable]

Purple

[vestal glen]

shud be able to, but maybe only 1/2 crystals

[paper ridge]

thank you

[vestal glen]

so i skip upgrading gd because shes still not mlb?