gameplay-help

[weary gust]

Yeah but those ships are strong enough they would hard carry a bad vanguard setup if they had even semi-decent gear on them

[stark quiver]

How about 6 1:1 fleets

[viscid swift]

well the BTDs are bad but

[weary gust]

That's not nearly as bad as I was expecting

[runic bluff]

how you guys sync unzen's torp to hit all during mogador's skill?

[viscid swift]

Haku's gear is basically textbook

[weary gust]

The converging torp bombers aren't great for campaign but they shouldn't be hindering clearing w13

[stark quiver]

Rld adjustment

[storm heron]

planning to use

• Uni taiyuan
• ryuuhou anshan
• zuihou changchun
• saratoga sandy
• indep eldridge
• perseus ?

[runic bluff]

how much rld req?

[weary gust]

I don't see any reason you should be struggling with w13 ... put in units with better AA than Unzen/Shima/yuudachi/Eld I guess.

[stark quiver]

Whatever it needs to make 24s

[stark quiver]

Perseus good option
Just whatever low coaster and decent ship works

[hearty fractal]

I do have sandiego for aa

[weary gust]

Are you dying on the mob fights or the boss fight? Also throw sandy into boss.

[hearty fractal]

I can manage enough mob fleets to spawn the boss

But the the boss fleet outdamages me

[storm heron]

use the rainbow quint torp, and adjust rld by tech, rainbow oxytorp, blacktorp

[stark quiver]

Blacktorp doesn’t have rld tho

[hearty fractal]

I was thinking of getting someone tanky, like gearing up azuma or agir

[storm heron]

but but it has 0 rld to keep unzen's damage

[weary gust]

Guam is like the best possible frontline unit you could have for w13 boss

[runic bluff]

I have like 193+26+8 rld on her

[storm heron]

try to look at the cooldown on the gear

[runic bluff]

with rainbow quint torp

[soft raft]

use a gold quad mag instead

[hearty fractal]

Yeah and her gear is fine too imo

[soft raft]

the secondary gun is very questionalbe and that AA gun is extremely questionable

[storm heron]

can you sync unzen with quad mags?

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna make this real simple for you

[storm heron]

this sync with moggy right?

[viscid swift]

well how much CA reload tech do you have

[storm heron]

or do I need to consider the volley time? I have 0 ca rld there

[viscid swift]

that's not really gonna sync then

[stark quiver]

Is yk2s d3 particularly hard compared to this one or nah

[storm heron]

how much timer do you need for it to sync?

[viscid swift]

not that I recall

[hearty fractal]

I usually always slap on just what i can for AA because i usually just use what aa weapon has highest damage or if I don't have anything better i use a random yellow

[viscid swift]

pretty much max even with 2 +10 oxy torps, i.e. 16

[soft raft]

most likely not
cuz it's a event map

[stark quiver]

Cuz I might have to use 101 zuihou

My other unicorns are too low
Level

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, just copy and paste that

[storm heron]

welp that's uhhh... unfortunate for me, time to just use eldridge

[near cargo]

Is there no alternative to those crystal?

[viscid swift]

nope

[hearty fractal]

How come the rainbow weapon musashi came with isnt the best option?

[near cargo]

Well that sucks, I wish they add other means for Elite type of META

[viscid swift]

Well it's not like you can't expect good damage out of her still

[viscid swift]

it's slow as fuck, that's why

[hearty fractal]

Who has a better use for it then?

[storm heron]

only 43.2% though, mathematically

[viscid swift]

it's niche, no one really uses it

[hearty fractal]

Damn, so much for a rainbow gear

[viscid swift]

do not assume higher rarity automatically means better for anything in AL, least of all gear

[weary gust]

Especially gold gear, which ranges from some of the best in the game to some of the absolute worst.

[storm heron]

shimakaze's torp sinking in the ocean

[white agate]

rainbow gear being no good = happiness since gold plates are spared

[hearty fractal]

Also why the double repair kit stacking? Wouldn't the evasion auxiliary be better?

[viscid swift]

no because of diminishing returns
DDs already have high amounts of evasion but low HP

[soft raft]

Assuming you're talking about DDs, they already have high base EVA so EVA Auxes arent as useful on them

In comparison they have low HP
Even if the skills of two toolboxes dont stack, the raw HP bonus will

[viscid swift]

so buffing their HP is usually better for eHP

[stark quiver]

For a 1:1 d3 fleet what minimum level does my cv have to be

[soft raft]

iirc like 60

[viscid swift]

well go into one of the war archives and see how it does

[weary gust]

dies was correct

[hearty fractal]

I guess i could slap on gold burn or the eagle union kit for more hp and stats cause why not

[stark quiver]

My unicorns are only around 70 so that’s gonna be a problem

[storm heron]

unicorns

[runic bluff]

z52 gear?

[storm heron]

I mean level can't be a problem, the problem is the skills

[stark quiver]

#al-general message
also is this bug or special feature?

[fresh veldt]

Who should I max enhance?

[weary gust]

All of the ships you are using

[fresh veldt]

Equally or 1 at a time?

[hearty fractal]

Also for gear lab equipment, should i get more wyverns or is 1 enough

[viscid swift]

around 3-4 is preferable

[weary gust]

I'd just go left to right, but also, you shouldn't be using Fritz without being able to limit break her. It will be months until Fritz can be useful for you.

[spring bolt]

by low cost fleet standard: high vanguard survival pressure, low backline survival pressure
CN 10 oil mob fleet after clearing all mobs
reference video:https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nd4y1e7AY

[torn latch]

Is retiring a lv120 retrofitted ship a wise move?

[viscid swift]

that's with a 0 limit break ranger isn't it?

[stark quiver]

Dalao moment

[weary gust]

CN limit breaking/level cap is different though so how are you comparing it to what we have?

[fresh veldt]

Who should I replace her with?

[stark quiver]

I don’t have the luxury of getting 100 0lb

[viscid swift]

unfortunately cannot be replicated on EN then since we're level capped at 70 for 0 LB

[flat ruin]

I've done this stage 3 times manually, no 3 star still. Do i just turn on the clearing mode for this

[fresh veldt]

She has been carrying me

[weary gust]

Pennsylvania.

[sweet delta]

...or can it

[stark quiver]

And with my low tech account it’s probably best to just run the normal 1:1

[soft raft]

if you're that type of person who doesnt have enough dock space, sure if you want to

I view that as a complete waste of all the resources since you get jack shit back in return but you still keep the tech

[torn latch]

defeat all enemies

[viscid swift]

plus I don't have a level 120 Cassin and Downes.....

[soft raft]

"All enemies" refers to every enemy node that Is NOT the boss
Clearing mode automatically beelines for the boss the moment it spawns

[viscid swift]

Ranger

[stark quiver]

Is it time to whip out the 125 oathed ranger

[flat ruin]

Like i said, i did it manually. I killed ALL of them

[viscid swift]

she costs 9 oil so you may as well use Unicorn at that point

[weary gust]

Evidently not.

[torn latch]

^

[storm heron]

how many +13 black vits do you guys have? I found a good sync with max damage but it require me to +13 a third black vit

[viscid swift]

right now 2

[torn latch]

The fuck is black vits

[stark quiver]

120

[viscid swift]

TB from PR7

[stark quiver]

Pr7 vit 2

[spring bolt]

the guy was using not optimal crossfleet ships, so maybe worth a try, like i said, low backline survival pressure
and if no mahans, just do ddgs

[viscid swift]

hmmm

I'll give it a run
also, what is "non optimal cross fleets" here?

[torn latch]

Where it used? And to replace which gear?

[torn latch]

I almost clueless about how pr7 gear work aside the rainbow plane one

[viscid swift]

that would definitely not be optimal

[weary gust]

Who is third slot in mainfleet, Klaudia?

[stark quiver]

On your cvs for heavy bossing
Replaces nothing

[soft raft]

Try force closing and relaunching the game since it could be a desync
Otherwise you definetly missed one

[storm heron]

time to snap my fingers to bring cassin and downes to 125 with books

[hearty fractal]

Im also thinking should i put hiei meta and nagato meta in a fleet somewhere

[viscid swift]

not for W13

[hearty fractal]

Although im not sure how useful are they

[weary gust]

They're not.

[stark quiver]

Not useful

[hearty fractal]

Just saying in general

[weary gust]

They're not useful. Anywhere.

[spring bolt]

2 cvs to pad avi, but the req is only 1700, maybe shibuki/halford can fix that

[stark quiver]

Not useful

[viscid swift]

oh right fuck, got stat requirements to meet

[hearty fractal]

Damn, even though i do like Meta ships although most of them dont seem all that good

[viscid swift]

I gotta do some numbers then

[stark quiver]

Stat reqs will be the end of me
Without good xfleet im cooked

[weary gust]

None of them are used for anything except one very specific req for another meta fight.

[stark quiver]

Sooo… which cvs have the best xfleet

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

Amagi and maybe Fritz?

[weary gust]

I guess Jintsum is used for pvp cancer. And Fortume

[stark quiver]

~~Speaking of PvP, I got some affinity grinding to do ~~

[hearty fractal]

Man cant we have Nagato II or something like Laffey II that way it buffs the hell out of Sakura ships

Would be fun

[weary gust]

Faction buffs = noob traps. You never use ships for faction buffing.

You use ships if said ship is good.

[stark quiver]

Lvl 1 nagato

[sharp socket]

also faction buffs = must fulfill for UR

[storm heron]

meanwhile jimmy using full ijn to clear maihou

[hearty fractal]

Yeah ive realised that a while ago, even though imo i think there definitely should be an advantage to having a whole faction fleet or just buffs for doing that in general

[spring bolt]

both have better crossfleet than shinano anyway so whatever

[fresh veldt]

what is this lucky prayer event for the new year thing?

[storm heron]

gives very little buffs

[flat ruin]

ill try to restart

[storm heron]

you need to clear the boss after clearing every non-boss to get the third star

[weary gust]

Boss is also an enemy. Kill it.

[storm heron]

only after you defeat the boss after clearing every non-boss the third star will appear

[flat ruin]

I didn't get it wtf

ill fucking restart

[storm heron]

hopefully you didn't miss any mob nodes

[weary gust]

He didn't, it says 0 in top left.

[sweet delta]

it can say 0 even when there are more than 0 if you desynced

[sharp socket]

sometimes 3rd star bugs out for me so kill boss then restart game

[soft raft]

Dont you have to kill the boss to get the star to show up

[weary gust]

I've never had the kill counter desync

Desyncs just lead to it says "Err: Invalid node" or whatever when I try to fight an enemy node that doesn't actually exist.

[flat ruin]

It showed now

[sharp socket]

3rd star can also go off the screen one time

[hearty fractal]

Also i know tier lists arent usually the best idea but they still help give an idea on what is good, instead of constantly having to bother people on whats good on here,is there any decent tierlist online i could find?

[spring bolt]

@viscid swift it works, lv70 ranger is 30 avi lower than lv100 0lb
used 2 tenrai and 3 +13 cata for the whole fleet, and i even kept bacon on ranger as i need her to grind current event. slot limit is slightly different but stat req are same

[viscid swift]

there's this for more focus on end game
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit

[sharp socket]

there is ectl but its not getting updated

[viscid swift]

hmmm
also do you remember what CN determined the drop rates were for the HVAR

[gusty olive]

How is Fritz?

[viscid swift]

very good

[violet oracle]

is Kearsarge's gun good for anything/anyone?

[spring bolt]

i don't... let me see if i can find it in old posts

[storm heron]

does the 1.5s stage delay applies to meta showdown?

[viscid swift]

it's even more niche than the 460 and hasn't found any use thus far

[hearty fractal]

I know of that one but yeah, its very slow on updates

[sweet delta]

i have a +13 kear gun, surely it had a use

[spring bolt]

found it, triple as usual event, 0.421 print per stage clear
sample size is not very large tho, 840

[viscid swift]

Hmm
Thank you

[humble tapir]

whats the use of using a gun with very quick reload on shimakaze? (got it from the tier list)

[eternal moth]

More AOA

[flat ruin]

stupid question but where is the C stage located

[south sequoia]

@flat ruin

[flat ruin]

Oh no c stage? Anyways thanks

[south sequoia]

No there is a c stage

they just changed the way to access it

[spring bolt]

you switch at a stages

[south sequoia]

as I just presented

[sweet delta]

her main gun slot is weak and her All Out Assault is strong

[humble tapir]

oh ok

so its just to activate it quicker?

[spring bolt]

aoa proc is based on main gun firing count

anyone knows chip/cube ratio for H projects?

[sweet delta]

30 chips for 3 cubes with H1?

[storm heron]

wasn't it like 30/60/90/120?

[spring bolt]

cool, thanks guys

[undone plover]

Hey dfg does this mean 0.4 HVAR print per run

[storm heron]

.

[spring bolt]

yup, according to the research i saw, so about 1 plane every 60 runs

[storm heron]

seems like 40 60 80 100

[undone plover]

So usual event is sth like 0.14-0.15?

I see thanks

[spring bolt]

well, as i mentioned, their sample size is only 840... so ymmv
also we have no idea if they will keep the drop rate

[lament ledge]

are META ships good

[undone plover]

That is alright
Even small sample size is better than no data

[eager mulch]

some are, some aren’t

[lament ledge]

may i know which are the good ones

[barren tapir]

realistically all are tech fodder

[plain saffron]

Gold good to very good
Purple bad
Just like event ships

[lament ledge]

oh

[eager mulch]

just like me fr

[storm heron]

gold ranges from solid, good, great ™️
purple ranges from collection only, meh ™️

[plain saffron]

In gph everyone just use UR so gold are irrelevant here i guess

[stark quiver]

i need 700 runs to get 4 hvars

[soft raft]

In terms of pratical use:
Elite ones are all doodoo
Gold ones are "Good but better options exist"

In terms of tech:

[lament ledge]

oo

[undone plover]

Pray they keep the bug feature

[barren tapir]

bug pls

[stark quiver]

and a good 400k oil

[barren tapir]

3x less oil needed if they keep the bug

ngl, if they dont then oldies have a huge advantage lol, i wasnt aware just how big the gap was

[storm heron]

700 runs of 150 oil right (uni ddg)...

[stark quiver]

and i mean, if they didnt bother to remove it during the original run, wont it just make it a feature

[stark quiver]

oh bruh, i did the math wrong

[barren tapir]

it's only a feature if it stays in the rerun

[plain saffron]

I'm assuming the rate is set per stages, and considering rerun uses same stage id, maybe they won't change anything

[storm heron]

remember back then when they gave us free sea hornets

[barren tapir]

the diff is basically like 10-12k oil per, vs 28-35k oil per for me

[covert junco]

Hello, where do i find taihou meta fleet comp?

[plain saffron]

Just like kr server having oilcap but no clearing rewards because they didn't set clearing rewards on the event stages, bcs we never get oil cap on that event

[stark quiver]

oh wait with bug its 40k oil ish for 4 hvars, am i doing the math correct

[barren tapir]

that's correct

with bug i could get like a dozen HVARs lmfao

[stark quiver]

ight so we going for a dozen hvar now
IF bug stays

[viscid swift]

But without it it's 120k for 4

[spring bolt]

do 10 oil mob fleet and you can lower that to 7k per plane

[stark quiver]

i mean, 120k is spendable in a week right?

[barren tapir]

im so ready ngl

[plain saffron]

Remember back then nobody recommend farming for it bcs it's "bad"

[viscid swift]

Uhh, depends how ambitious you are

[storm heron]

what will people with HVAR even do in that one week

[stark quiver]

something something 16h a day to grind

[barren tapir]

idk i just know i have like 55-60k mail to use

[stark quiver]

grind more, but just not all out

[viscid swift]

Grind even more

[spring bolt]

CN dalaos recommended getting 2, i didn't listen to that shit and got 6

[viscid swift]

I'm aiming for 9 total

[barren tapir]

i have 3 1-1 teams and about 250 HELPS so lets see how much i can do in 160 hours ig

[stark quiver]

160 hours seems... excessive

[barren tapir]

160 hours is just how long the event is. im obviously NOT gonna farm that long

[storm heron]

6 1-1 team and 640 helps let's see

[undone plover]

U can do between 12-18 runs per hour with HELP
That is like 2-3k oil per hour spent

[barren tapir]

but maybe for half that time lol

[rigid onyx]

whats HELP?

[storm heron]

2xs

[stark quiver]

high eff combat logistic plan
aka 2x thingy

[barren tapir]

with bug im aiming for 12-15, if no bug i aim for 4-5

[undone plover]

Double sortie ticket
High efficiency combat logistics plan

[barren tapir]

actually no bug is more like 3-4 from drop i guess

is 12-15 excessive? sure but imagine how much bling my cvs will have

[storm heron]

Idk, I am aiming for 6...

[plain saffron]

9

[spring bolt]

CN's latest work, they got 97/100 for this one. max cv rld tech
poor unzen, did all the hard work and z52 just kicked her out

[undone plover]

I think at most a comp might run 6 HVARs
So unlikely u need more unless we start getting 9 fighter plane carriers

[barren tapir]

no gear switching

[plain saffron]

3 new ur cv with 3 flex slot trust

[viscid swift]

That is what I'm prepping for

[undone plover]

Are u also investing extra plates

[barren tapir]

but yeah no ik more than 6 is excessive it's just for the meems if the bug exists still

[viscid swift]

We shall see....

[stark quiver]

wait so
theoretically how many hvars can i get with 100k oil, with and without the bug

[storm heron]

wait that's insane, I'm gonna have to try

[barren tapir]

with bug 9-10, without bug about 3 and a bit

[plain saffron]

Can't be a special old player anymore 😔

[rigid onyx]

I've never used 1:1 fleets past double ddgs; should I create a few before the yorkii event

[spring bolt]

better do 12, we might get vanguards using fighters

[barren tapir]

im not gonna be able to do super efficient 1:1s, so take my numbers with a grain of salt

but for me, bugged hvar = about 11k oil per, no bug hvar = about 33k oil per

[undone plover]

10 with low oil and high rate
4 with low oil and low rate

[sweet delta]

chapter 16, every mob node is a series of light-armor single bosses

[storm heron]

what if I have work..

[spring bolt]

hire your uncle's son, give him 20 usd

[plain saffron]

Don't work

[barren tapir]

more better than less anyway until you run out of ships to equip

[rigid onyx]

support fleet needing light armor fighters + 2 fleets = 12 needed (real)

[stark quiver]

proceeds to retire all my URs

[barren tapir]

as always better to have it and not need it than need it but not have it

my aquila is getting close to ready, almost lvl115 and skills at 8/9/8

[storm heron]

time to open those jobs where I have 50 phones in front of me

[rigid onyx]

I think that i'll take the loss and just do full fleet d3 during yorkii event, don't want to stunt ship exp for an extra plane that'll probably be added to gear lab anyways

[barren tapir]

tbh id run full fleets if not for morale

[viscid swift]

It will be

[stark quiver]

tbh id quit the game, but i cant

[barren tapir]

but the amt of runs i need means that i need multiple fleets, and 1:1 means i can have 3 fleets always going

[viscid swift]

Just not until after the event is archived which will be another year at least

[undone plover]

We dont know what resource it will use
If it ends up using T2 ordnances I would rather farm it

[barren tapir]

besides ship exp? pfft. meet coggs

[viscid swift]

Not like 1:1ing will be that difficult anyway

[barren tapir]

i tried to see if i can get 3rd wyvern in time but sadly i cannot without 2 rng drops at least which i havent got

[stark quiver]

can always use my strat

[undone plover]

Pray to your cats

We had an extra file zone as well
Did u get it already?

[spring bolt]

<--- seriously considering doing cube researches while all research ships maxed, just for chips

[undone plover]

Or was that last month

[barren tapir]

tbh dunno if i'd have enough electronics even if i did get the thing, cos i also need 1 more flapjack and i decided to make a z52 gun, prolly not the best timing admittedly

[viscid swift]

Smh, slacking on La-9 prints

[barren tapir]

its including if i did all the one time file zones, yea. need 2 plane drops still

also ofc including all 4 guaranteed prints from jan

[stark quiver]

just speedrun opsi, every single zone, abyssal, available stronghold in the first half day

[barren tapir]

i mean i intend to, not that fast but in the first week lol. since itll be oil saving mode anyway

[lament ledge]

should i get san diego in the medal shop

okay

[spring bolt]

luckily, the gap is small. only 16k

[faint cloud]

what if ppl grind hvars so hard then devs release a new ur light armor fighter in gearlab update in cny

[barren tapir]

oh yeah friendly reminder to last minute opsi gamers, we have a stronghold spawning in 3 hours

[atomic abyss]

i mean, even if they did, would it matter?

[undone plover]

Anyone test fritz yet? Or is it still early

[stark quiver]

mfw i used all my ap boxes

[barren tapir]

not really an issue bc itll take a lot of expensive shit so hvars is still good as budget

[atomic abyss]

i categorically refuse to test fritz till the event ends

[barren tapir]

i'll take "not spending a billion electronics and prints and possibly ordnances" for 500 alex

[sweet delta]

i would test fritz if i had 4 la9s

[atomic abyss]

real life has not been kind throughout december

and now im rushing opsi in 5 days

[barren tapir]

i would test fritz but she's lvl1 with lvl1 skills atm

[eternal moth]

I volunteer as tribute!

[stark quiver]

we believe in you ender

[barren tapir]

a little birdy told me to hold my URins for a while

[viscid swift]

Got her skills maxed a few hours ago but test her where

[atomic abyss]

is that a de havilland

[undone plover]

I see someone took the z52 pill

[barren tapir]

z52 is also 0lb but her skills are occasionally being rotated in and i have her in my c1 fleet for felix exp anyway

[undone plover]

Can test vs heavy
Just to see how she does

[sweet delta]

didnt a youtuber already do that

[stark quiver]

its a play test 💀

[barren tapir]

ive gotten kinda a deluge of ship skills to level so fritz ends up being low since she's a wait and see anyway

gotta max aquila, z9 for waifu reasons, i think indep still needs some 💀 then there's avp, halford (also waifu reasons), z52, and enty before i look at fritz tbh

[sacred iris]

When did they change the event stage?
Iirc we need to clear the stage multiple times before getting 3 star

[atomic abyss]

since amagi event in september

[sacred iris]

I see

I should have come back at that time

[atomic abyss]

also on a side note, can i just point out that rumey doesnt have the highest ACV

[grizzled sundial]

Z-52 is AA ship or do-it-all type of ship ?

[vapid birch]

is 800 dock space a comfortable spot for the future?

[atomic abyss]

do it all

[viscid swift]

Both

[stark quiver]

good enough
unless you wnna grind fleet power

[atomic abyss]

the future means you'll have more than 800, so you may need to expend again then so

[barren tapir]

id go to 850-900 personally cos i hate clearing out ships but 800 is good

[vapid birch]

i dont have any rares in my dock, only purple and up

[storm heron]

why is that?

[atomic abyss]

the 8 planes really came back to hurt rumey

[sweet delta]

-65 avi

[atomic abyss]

-65/-45 and only 8 planes

[undone plover]

Also efficiency doesn’t matter for acv right?

[atomic abyss]

it matters for support fleet, not acv

[wanton dawn]

are different submarines used in different maps / op si? does Albacore Archerfish Flasher work for everything?

[atomic abyss]

for everything

it's just not worth raising another one

unless there's SS reload tech shenanigans im not aware of

[wanton dawn]

will u say these 3 are most worth raising, coz i havent raised a single onw

[dusky narwhal]

idk if this is a complex question but can someone let me know what the best team for subs are? I don't remember which ships I should level

[atomic abyss]

this is the best current sub team

[undone plover]

It is the premium sub fleet so yes

[wanton dawn]

icic tysm

[sweet delta]

Albacore Archerfish Flasher Homura are the best right now

[rigid onyx]

i think albacore wasnt as good as random good solo sub

[dusky narwhal]

this is what I got btw

[atomic abyss]

homura replaces alba i assume?

[undone plover]

Homura single target right sushi ?

[atomic abyss]

37 81 96

[undone plover]

Replace archer iirc

[sweet delta]

you can take 96 81 101, and if you are willing then you can replace 101 with 37

[wanton dawn]

yea on bilibili tier list they used these 2 teams as well

[atomic abyss]

101 doesnt need pressure hull right
cos of her skill

[dusky narwhal]

Il switch over to 37 after I get 81 fine and 96 is my only properly built one so I gotta work on getting rainbow torps and stuff

[atomic abyss]

but you dont

besides maybe 101, the bis for all the other german subs shd be snorkel+pressure hull

[rigid onyx]

Should i invest in fishpack if i already have wolfpack

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt bother

[dusky narwhal]

yeah I just realized that lol

wait actually I thought 37 was different because a skill and she could get away with double oxy torp

[atomic abyss]

if using bidders ye she can

[dusky narwhal]

Yeah I have enough for everyone to use double bidder iirc

but yeah I can just leave her like this right?

[atomic abyss]

better to use pressure hull if she's not in flag

[dusky narwhal]

she is flag but normally you'd replace snorkel with pressure hull right?

[storm heron]

use flasher, flasher deal more damage than ark royal against harby

[atomic abyss]

no, you'd replace oxy torp

oxy is always second choice

[dusky narwhal]

ahhh okay then well should I buy a third snorkel in that case?

[atomic abyss]

if you're using 101 and not 37, yes you'll want a 3rd snorkel

[dusky narwhal]

yeah until I get 81 ready 101 will be there as I dont really feel like using 2 unleveled subs at once

[tropic tusk]

y are u not using 37 ,81, 96 together?

they work best together

[stark quiver]

read up

[tropic tusk]

arr ok

[dusky narwhal]

atm the team is looking like 96 101 81, 81 is unleveled and don't wanna worry about two subs at once, I wont focus too much on 101 as she will be replaced by 37

[rigid onyx]

Should I make 3 more bidders? Currently running 1 bidder + 1 g7e on a wolfpack fleet. Not sure if its worth the mats

[tropic tusk]

on dorm's food is there a item limit?

[storm heron]

srsly though, how tf flasher even do more damage than enty/ark/chkalov vs harby

[vale spindle]

I dont think so

[worthy hound]

Who to max next? I have 6 S.Bulins

[vale spindle]

z52

[stark quiver]

what other URs do you have

[vale spindle]

Then shinano probably

[viscid swift]

Uhhhh

[vale spindle]

or shinano first then z52
Either way those 2 are your best options

[undone plover]

Naval curry is thematically replaced sometimes but it is only limited to the event and goes back to normal curry after
Ik cuz I tried saving some the first time it happened only to be met with disappointment

[rigid onyx]

Is z52 neo-plymouth?

[viscid swift]

Well first question is how soon you want to push w15

[spring bolt]

i even saw flasher stealing mvp from ijn cvs in one salvo killing harby this month...

[worthy hound]

is thatt a question for me?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

3 ijn can one strike?

[worthy hound]

Im at W12-1 atm.. haven't advanced yet...

I guess I want to get W15 soon (Typo error)

[viscid swift]

W16 doesn't exist yet

[upbeat wagon]

What is BIS purple gun for fritz, or is triple 155mm main gun mount good for her

[viscid swift]

I am torn honestly

[vale spindle]

Twin 150mm tbtsk purple

[viscid swift]

Can you get any more UR Bullins besides the 6 you have

[upbeat wagon]

Ty

[worthy hound]

yes... I can get 2 more in the shop

or 3 I think

[viscid swift]

Musashi and Shinano next then

[worthy hound]

Got it

[spring bolt]

i mean, harby has too little hp that she died before most amagi airstrike lands...

[stark quiver]

how do you guys get so much damage 💀

[rigid onyx]

properly geared for armor types with +13

[stark quiver]

i only got her down to 39 bars with one strike

[rigid onyx]

oh literally one strike

[barren tapir]

what armor is harby this month?

[stark quiver]

Heavy

[barren tapir]

right ty ty

[knotty dome]

there was a tweet about the noshiro dorm "bonus" furniture. but it seems to cost gems. just checking that this is how it is, there's no secret event/quest to get it for free?

[sterile trail]

Uh returning player do i have enough time to farm to get the free ur, thanks

[rapid grail]

are there any Unikai-only mob fleets in w15 content?

[soft raft]

Depends on how fast you can grind but you probably can get at most the 200 cost one

Doing the mini game alone gives like 105

[hollow gust]

Helenaaaa

[soft dagger]

wdym?

[stark quiver]

with helena

[hollow gust]

That's pretty bad then

[soft raft]

I think he doesn't have Aquila
Cuz she's recommend alot for W15

[wind hazel]

single healer mob fleet, you mean?

[soft dagger]

there's zuihou volga etc

[rapid grail]

yeah, fleets without a secondary healer like aquila, volga, klaudia, or even ryuuhou and zuihou
just unikai and perseus
and no this is not for me, i've already done my w15, rather this is a question for gameplay help purposes

[viscid swift]

Not that I'm aware of

[stark quiver]

Looked something like this

i mean, i do have very low tech n stuff,

[viscid swift]

Well actually a few fleets were cooked up with Unicorn and Perseus

But they pretty much all failed last I checked when they ran out of ammo

[storm heron]

maybe your flasher is not strong enough

[viscid swift]

That's even assuming they have everything else to do a w15 clear besides just missing a 2ndary healer

[patent raft]

Since i done get all ships girls event including meta, should i focus getting Shinano or new Jersey?

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 reruns on January 9th

[soft raft]

Shinano
Also keep in mind Yk2 rerun is very soon

[soft dagger]

i never try norcal in lethal but if you can fill the weaknesses probably doable

[patent raft]

Welp since you said Yorktown 2 coming soon for rerun, i guess i continue save the wise cuba

Besides, 1:30 hours left until weekly quest is going to reset for new one

[wind hazel]

when you say "focus", do you mean pulling on special banner?

[patent raft]

Yea

[soft raft]

Yeah don't do that jfc

[wind hazel]

no, don't build special or heavy. just do Light daily outside of events

[patent raft]

Ok

[wind hazel]

and just ONE single Light, nothing more

[viscid swift]

I swear we've been over this before

[soft raft]

You'll eventually get Perma pity built up off of daily light build and SR event builds

[patent raft]

Uh huh

[rapid grail]

with the unforgiving nature of 15-3 and 4 lethal, yea no lol

[viscid swift]

Anyway what exactly are you trying to do

[patent raft]

Am just waiting until 3 pm for reset weekly quest

[viscid swift]

Like why force this

[south sequoia]

anyone notable here to level up for halfford exp grind?

[soft dagger]

15-3 should be doable, 15-4 ye, a waste of oil

[viscid swift]

First 4 cruisers give goodish tech

Biloxi and Boise are CL FP

[hollow gust]

You gotta launch everything before the two mobs spawn

[stark quiver]

they cuck damage?

[hollow gust]

Well yeah

[wind hazel]

more like L pull

[viscid swift]

#al-general is that way

[stark quiver]

then i need a faster fleet only running on 57 rld

[rapid grail]

in a gameplay help scenario where a player asks help on w15 when the healers they have on their dock are only unikai and perseus

[storm heron]

does that mean I can one strike cause I have 80 rld

[hollow gust]

That's where nagato comes in

[wind hazel]

i would ask them to not do w15

[viscid swift]

Well first question would be do they have everything else to make a w15 clear feasible

[stark quiver]

lvl 1 nagato

[patent raft]

What next ships girls event gotta rerun

[viscid swift]

Because someone who has everything else to clear w15 but not a 2ndary healer is unlikely to say the least

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2, we just said

[stark quiver]

how much more damage do i do if my planes hit b4 mobs spawn

[patent raft]

Sorry i forgot because i focus something else

[storm heron]

the enemy gains stat every 10s right?

[rapid grail]

hmmm

is a double unikai strat possible?

[viscid swift]

You could try it

But that's a last resort type thing

[sinful escarp]

you wont be able to run them on the same map from what i know

[stark quiver]

same map differnet fleets

[viscid swift]

anyway, better to not waste energy on a purely hypothetical

[soft dagger]

you can't even have two unikai

[wind hazel]

you cant?

[sinful escarp]

unicorn doesnt have a retro item iirc, so unless its a game thing that doesnt allow it you wont

[rapid grail]

jp were able to run double biszwei on both the mob and boss fleets

[soft dagger]

retrofit is one

[storm heron]

you just can't use them in the same fleet I guess

[dusk maple]

you can have two of the same retrofits in your docks, just not in that same fleet. item specific retrofits (sandy etc) are limited to 1 at a time in a dock.

[soft dagger]

oh i thought double mean stacking mb

[wind hazel]

two uni strat

at that point just use uni+perseus no? probably more or less the same

[full hinge]

boutta ask an insanely dumb question

but what does retrofit mean, is that equipping like the guns and stuff to ur units

[viscid swift]

No

[storm heron]

at that point just use double musashi uni aquila

[sinful escarp]

a rarity upgrade in simple terms

[sinful escarp]

not all ships have them though

[full hinge]

gotcha, preciate it (sorry im looking at guides and stuff rn and the term keeps popping up)

[eager mulch]

[wind hazel]

the question was tackling w15 with only uni+perseus as healer........

[rapid grail]

in auto it's going to die
in manual you can at least make it so that your fleet survives a bit longer
15-3 and 4 would just destroy that

[viscid swift]

It can work

Just not without ammo

NC and Unicorn worked with ammo after all

[storm heron]

oh yea I just ENed

[eager mulch]

don’t

[kind slate]

are most ships fine at lvl 120?

[rapid grail]

yeah. no need to dump arrays
only do that for the great ships and waifus (the latter in moderation because that resource is RARE af)

[kind slate]

yea i only? have like 1000 arrays rn. ill choose wisely

[fresh veldt]

Are either of these worth using?

Nvm

[rapid grail]

the CL gun is good on the BBs for interception purposes and +45 FP
the plane is not, though

those are prints so you have to go out of your way to farm those prints
consider using your tech boxes for a quicker way to get good gear

[fresh veldt]

Weekly tricked me thought they were items they are just part of an item >.> need 14 more lol

[rapid grail]

this is why newbies are recommended to buy the tech boxes during event runs on event shop. good source of gear without having to farm for prints

[shrewd stag]

Do I analyse all of these ?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[shrewd stag]

Ok

Which do I get which this ?

Tenrai?

[sweet delta]

Tenrai, but only buy enough to reach 50 together with what you already have

[shrewd stag]

Ok I have 14

Btw on which ship do I put tenrai on?

[rapid grail]

Lots of options, but generally do that on your best damage-dealing CV like Enty and Shinano (without much context)\

[viscid swift]

Do you have 2-3 Champagne guns

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[shrewd stag]

Nope

This right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but you'll want to get that from protocore first

Under the series 3 selector equipment BPs

[earnest sundial]

Is it worth buying a gold bulin for 10k coins? (Returning player pack)

[wind hazel]

worth

[polar lion]

CL gun or STAAG on Fritz?

[atomic abyss]

If you don't have a spare plygun, STAAG

[shrewd stag]

This?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[bold stream]

Happy holidays!

I just noticed I can get one SSR ship from christmas red card.

Which is good to get in there? Richi? Graff maybe?

[shrewd stag]

I buy 20 then convert to the gun u mentioned. Then where to equip?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm I got 2nd copy of Z52 and Got the Rainbow Bulin on milestone... should I stop farming event and back in 12 - 1 ir 12-4 farming?

[shrewd stag]

This gun right?

[stark quiver]

if you have all you need then go back to farming normally

[viscid swift]

Yes

And it's used on pretty much all BBs except Musashi against medium and heavy armor bosses

[warm cliff]

Who should I prioritise researching first? Ägir or Plymouth?

[viscid swift]

Do you have the blueprints to dev 30 either of them

[shrewd stag]

Ty

[warm cliff]

I still need around 120 for Plymouth and 200 for Ägir

[dusky narwhal]

how good is fritz rumey? i dont use many CV fleets so I wouldn't know much on who she would replace or is good with

[shrewd stag]

Whom do I equip?

[strange sphinx]

ic

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei when appropriate

[viscid swift]

Doesn't really matter then, you'll get both done in pretty short order

[warm cliff]

Alright, any suggestions on where they fit in my fleet composition?

[viscid swift]

Well what are they for exactly

[shrewd stag]

I have the NJ event gun on bismark do I swap with that?

[dusky narwhal]

also do I prioritize her or Z52?

[viscid swift]

And no general content is not a thing

[viscid swift]

When appropriate yes

[shrewd stag]

Ok

[viscid swift]

She's quite good yes

As for which gets priority well that depends

[dusky narwhal]

well if this helps I am missing Amagi CV, Implac, Yorktown II, Guam, Laffey II and Unzen!

[viscid swift]

Well what URs that you do have are MLB

[jade ibex]

Is amagi cv higher dmg than hakuryuu for ryusei fleet?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

individually, amagi is higher
together haku has a good chance of topping her
shinano would top both with amagi's buffs

[dusky narwhal]

Vanguard ,Kron , Mogador, NJ, Musashi, Shinano, UVH, Bisko II, Soyuz, Alsace. the non MLB ones are Shimakaze, U52, and Fritz Rumey

[storm heron]

shinano top both?

[atomic abyss]

amagi's buffs are cracked, what can i say

[viscid swift]

Well are you planning on tackling w15 anytime soon

[storm heron]

it's just I never see her mvp

[dusky narwhal]

Its not an immediate goal but its I do wanna get to it eventually, more just for Opsi and meta fights eventually

[viscid swift]

Fritz then

[dusky narwhal]

mkayy and what fleet would I put her in generally? like with bisko or in more of a CV only fleet

[warm cliff]

For clearing out campaign, I also do opsi from time to time

[atomic abyss]

no you'd never realistically use her with bis 2
CV fleet

[sweet delta]

fr Shinano is almost always lowest of the three

[atomic abyss]

i usually see her highest

[warm flax]

What?

[dusky narwhal]

ahh okay well since I don't have implacable would I run her with AVP since she has the stop thing as well?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[dusky narwhal]

also I dont have many good fighters and heard she likes them a lot :p this is all I got is there anything I should farm for?

[sweet delta]

She likes fighter a lot but you don't have the best bossing fighters

One is from pr7 research and one is farmable next next week for a week

[dusky narwhal]

oh what's next week?

[sweet delta]

/wiki parallel superimposition

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Parallel_Superimposition
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Parallel_Superimposition
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Parallel_Superimposition

Dec 30, 2024, 7:38 AM

[hallow mountain]

What the hell should I do with my extra Graf Zepp

[dusky narwhal]

ohh its yorktown 2.. well I dont have the cubes to get her probably but I will level Rumey and farm as many of those planes as I can!

[soft dagger]

lb the other

[hallow mountain]

Already did

[soft dagger]

save or retire

[hallow mountain]

Why save

Shouldn't I just feed her to my Zeppy then
Or just retire for medals

[soft dagger]

fleet power

[hallow mountain]

Oooh

[soft dagger]

no forget what i said

[hallow mountain]

Yeah I already have her

[fair tartan]

Should I prioritize limit-breaking the new ur cv or vanguard?

[hallow mountain]

She's one of my main German fleet

I like her a lot

[soft dagger]

depends on the rest of your dock, how many UR bulin you have, and how many more you can get

[fair tartan]

The main ships I use are something like this

[fair tartan]

I have two UR bullins, I can either max out Fritz or Vanguard

[soft dagger]

vanguard

[brave trail]

tbf z52 is better than fritz

[soft dagger]

if that mean more universally applicable, yes

[bold stream]

Hello all. I field rumey with other carriers. Since she is light-med carrier I think AvP is a good pair?

After this, is Peter better for the 3rd since she has -10 reload time or o with graf zep since I think she has like 160 eff 6 plane bombers?

I do not have other UR carriers atm

[fair tartan]

Thx for the advice? What’s the reasoning behind it?

[royal copper]

good ship ig

[soft dagger]

alsace and bz is ready, now you have one strong bb fleet. if you lb fritz, you dont have enough bulin and no partner for her either

[ashen crow]

At what point should I start using a mob and boss fleet?

[royal copper]

bouta have 3 ur bulins ready which one should I limit break next

[fair tartan]

So should I put alsace, bz and vanguard in a fleet and get rid of New Jersey?

[soft dagger]

once you reach oilcap map

[ashen crow]

What is that?

[soft dagger]

yes

[royal copper]

where u exceed maxum oil cost on a run they limit how much oil u spend on a run

[soft dagger]

w9 and above

[ashen crow]

Okay

[warm cliff]

Which Submarine Fleet is better? Albacore, Archerfish, U-47 (my current fleet) or U-96, U-81, U-47?

[kind slate]

This is probs a stupid question, but how do I unlock the locked skills?

[plain saffron]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[bold stream]

Hello all. I field rumey with other carriers. Since she is light-med carrier I think AvP is a good pair?

After this, is Peter better for the 3rd since she has -10 reload time or o with graf zep since I think she has like 160 eff 6 plane bombers?

[soft dagger]

amagicv

[elfin hollow]

I have 2 fritz what should i do with the clone one

[kind slate]

Limit break the other

[royal copper]

for fluff cv boss fleet?

[soft dagger]

yes

[royal copper]

bet

[wanton dawn]

is the best use of rainbow prints on wyvern?

[storm heron]

just keep levelling the cats]

[royal copper]

hi doggo

[storm heron]

first 3-4 yeah

[kind slate]

So I unlock all when cat reaches lvl 30?

[wanton dawn]

ah okok tyty

[storm heron]

hi babyrye

[soft dagger]

96 81 47

[royal copper]

49 prints away from mlb plymouth

[storm heron]

tbh if you have your current sub fleets maxed might as well just use them

raising a new one is quite a pain

[fast steppe]

can a badly geared shinano beat a well geared ark kai

[glossy granite]

What do you save for with specialized core? I got like 3.8K

[kind slate]

@storm heron sorry for ping. Cat just reached lvl 26 but it hasn’t unlocked any new skill? Do I need 30 for all 3?

[storm heron]

ehhh, for light-med when you carriers are not maxed, BBs are also competitive option. AvP is also kinda needed in heavy fleet due to the comp being very torp-based

[royal copper]

ur bulins

[glossy granite]

Damn im like 200 short

[storm heron]

idk how badly geared it is, can't say, but well geared both, shinano is better on average

[storm heron]

oh, press the "use talent points" on the bottom right

[warm cliff]

This is my sub fleet currently. Should I just transfer the same gears of Archerfish and Albacore to U-96 and U-81?

[fast steppe]

wyvern and xsb3c

[royal copper]

same and I reached my monthly limit

[warm cliff]

They are not really maxed… any tips for my submarine gear?

[fast steppe]

for guild boss

[glossy granite]

Brutal man

[kind slate]

I clicked it. Can I not choose which skill the cat acquires?

[glossy granite]

Tho i only got 3 UR's who to first work on between New jersey, Shinano and Fritz? with limit breaks

[storm heron]

hold up, I'm not too familiar with u 47

that being said though, 3 top gold sub should be decent enough

[fast steppe]

idk if the uss subs need flasher

[royal copper]

wait doggo is drake gun any good?

[fast steppe]

I just run 96 81 47

[storm heron]

depends on what their ark royals gear are

[fast steppe]

mine's double ju87 and Fulmar for timing

[storm heron]

No, that cat is a special cat, you can only have a fixed skill. Other cats ike this are Kidd, Bellamy, Every, and Roberts

[fast steppe]

but atm it relies on double Helena proc to kill

[warm cliff]

Unfortunately I don’t have flasher…

[storm heron]

iirc competitive against medium, and barely first place against heavy

[fast steppe]

go with 47 81 96 then

[warm cliff]

Any tips on the gears I should use on them? (My current sub fleet’s gear is above)

[fast steppe]

normally I chuck my best sub stuff on 47 but that's because I'm biased

[storm heron]

if you're using ark royal and shinano together, just put converging tbs for all of them, and sync

[fast steppe]

the Shinano is borrowed so I don't have a choice

[royal copper]

ok wait so right I have enough UR gear design plans for the UR twin bofors aa gun and the UR type 98 twin kai should I make them

[storm heron]

up to you, imo it's just not that worth it switching the 2 already good gold sub. Not to mention the lone wolf sub isn't the best for wolfpack

[crisp raven]

@kind slate seeing your question reminded me to check mine. you need to actually confirm the talent upgrade. itll automatically show the next talent in order to upgrade or unlock. it isnt clear that thats how it works.

[storm heron]

well just don't think too much about it then, ark royal prime should be better

[sleek spade]

is Yorkii's rerun right next week?

I only have 860 cubes

[kind slate]

what do u mean confirm? for other cats it shows like 4 different choices. is that the confirmation?

[royal copper]

"only"

[crisp raven]

starts on the 9th. depends on how you define next week, but its close

[storm heron]

can I see your depot and all equipped rainbow equipment?

[sleek spade]

yea so that's next week

[warm cliff]

Should I try to get U-37 in the merit shop when it comes up then? In the meantime how is my sub gears looking? Anything I can improve on?

[sleek spade]

is there anything good in event stage to farm for that rerun event tho?

I'll save oil if it does

[crisp raven]

literally spend a talent point to upgrade drakes skill. even though it only shows 1. drake has forced talents since its a special cat. once you upgrade, itll cycle to the next talent. the 3 that are locked will unlock. the 6 total talent points you get will be enough to complete all of the skills

[storm heron]

nah get a second and third wyvern first with the selector, otherwise if you have enough UR gun prints and UR AA prints sure

[fast steppe]

Hvar on d3

[sleek spade]

nice

[royal copper]

is the twin kai not worth it

or just not top priority rn

[sleek spade]

what is Hvar good for? I dont have it

[kind slate]

oh nice. thnx for explanation

[soft dagger]

light armor boss

[sleek spade]

very nice

[storm heron]

Just keep levelling the current subs given you invested some time in them already with the skill books and levels, to improve them use 2 bidders, snorkels, and pressure hull on all of them

[royal copper]

i need more military grade components to make make firecrest and all those before the wyverns

[storm heron]

yeah twin100 kai less worth it than wyvern

well you can buy firecrest through the core shop I think, a good way to convert your plenty core into your scarce electronics

[nocturne glade]

if I have Javelin and Laffey leveled already, is it worth also leveling Z23?

[royal copper]

that'll save some then

[storm heron]

depends on what part of the game you are on right now, but z23 is IB faction tech and dd fp tech, which is useful

[nocturne glade]

awesome, ty!

I guess ill lvl her slowly for the IB tech

[royal copper]

so ill just use my selectors for the wyverns thats fine right? double checking

[storm heron]

yeah just make 1 wyvern, and save the rest just in case tenrai needs the designs in the future

[royal copper]

thanks doggo

[warm cliff]

Alright thanks!

[royal copper]

wait which map for the gold map again

did they get rid of the guaranteed gold mobs

[still nest]

When's the gearlab update usually?

[kind slate]

Do I use my cv or bb fleet against this one?

[storm heron]

what gold map?

[storm heron]

around lunar new year

[storm heron]

you can use bb with ap guns, or cv with rocket fighters and torps

[kind slate]

Thnx

[violet oracle]

Am I missing out on anything important if i dont get admiral hipper meta?

[still nest]

February?

[storm heron]

nope, just collection and some border points

[royal copper]

could've sworn there was a map for farming gold

[storm heron]

there was some specific strategies back in the day (7-4 and 7-2) but nowadays after oil cap w12 is just much better

[royal copper]

aight I'll jus put some ships I wanna level into a fleet then

[kind slate]

when im using helena with BB opsi fleet, do i want the 16s skill instead of the normal 20?

[bold stream]

Hello all. I field rumey with other carriers. Since she is light-med carrier I think AvP is a good pair?

After this, is Peter better for the 3rd since she has -10 reload time or go with graf zep since I think she has like 160 eff 6 plane bombers?

I do not have other UR CV atm.

[little tree]

Doggo anything that should be changed here

[thorn tartan]

what is this new years invite with wishes

what am i supposed to do

[glossy granite]

New years invite this and that, while i am sitting here doing whatever and have no idea what that is 💀

[soft dagger]

what for? and you dont have enterprise or something?

[soft dagger]

depends on your timing

[kind slate]

all equipped with the 406 he/champaign depending on enemy

[atomic abyss]

firstly, where are you using this fleet, is rumey even mlb?

[atomic abyss]

check pins

[atomic abyss]

it's a mini event with some missions, check your event tab

[atomic abyss]

then no
the sg on the 16s first proc is only relevant if you're using 457s or using HPFCR/AFCT

[soft dagger]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/
calculate your timing here

[kind slate]

whats a good timing diff? as tight as possible?

[atomic abyss]

[glossy granite]

Also i will get UR bullins soon, do i use them on Shinano, Fritz or New jersey or do i hold on to them?

[atomic abyss]

again, if you're going double shell

you dont need sg on helena

if you're using shell + afct/hpfcr, you need sg on helena

[atomic abyss]

depends on your other MLB URs
if you have none, i would hold on

[glossy granite]

Those are only 3 URs i got and i havent Limit break a single one

[soft dagger]

yes. keep in mindthe enemy gimmicks and firing order

[atomic abyss]

do you have 4?
if no come back and ask when you have 4

[glossy granite]

Will Z52 count as 4th once i get her 🤔

[atomic abyss]

4 UR Bulins i mean

[glossy granite]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

cos if you dont have 4, you can't mlb anything so it's pointless

[bold stream]

Hello. I have enterprise, saratoga, independence. Are they better for light med enemies?

[bold stream]

I will MLB rumey by end of the event. Probably even z52 too

[soft dagger]

i'd go with rumey enty indep

[bold stream]

For light med enemies?

[kind slate]

I’m assuming AP bb fleet or rocket cv fleet for this?

[soft dagger]

yes. they are better for bossing
sorry i meant avp rumeyMLB enterprise

[bold stream]

Is this general carrier fleet?

[atomic abyss]

what are your MLB URs

[coarse heron]

medium armour so you can dumpster her with basically any medium/heavy fleet

[atomic abyss]

sorry, what are your URs

[bold stream]

Musashi only. Fdg is at 29

[glossy granite]

Yea no idea who i really need from the New years invitations

[supple verge]

what are the best things to buy in the core monthly shop?

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[kind slate]

Did u mean me?

[atomic abyss]

wrong ping sorry

AP BB better tho

[bold stream]

Only hutten at lb 1 since I got her copy luckily

[atomic abyss]

CV conceal removed by enemy plane

is your avp fs5

[bold stream]

AvP is at fs 4 going to 5

[atomic abyss]

personally

i wouldnt even bother with a separate BB or CV fleet yet looking at your options

[violet oracle]

18 cubes to my name, do i gamble for a fritz dupe or start saving

[atomic abyss]

gambling for a fritz dupe is stupid when yorktown2 rerun is on the 9th

[bold stream]

Just go with musashi + rumey?

But i will need a boss fleet somewhere

[atomic abyss]

musashi rumey enterprise for now
assuming this is opsi

for campaign the same works as your boss fleet

[bold stream]

For the mob fleet just unicorn and random girls?

[atomic abyss]

fdg once 30, unicorn and another carrier

[hollow gust]

Rumey has been all of fun

[atomic abyss]

for anti med?

[hollow gust]

She is such a good campaign CV

[turbid dawn]

I don't have Implac+YorkII (I think they're the only URs I'm missing, and fleet 4 is my mobbing fleet), are these fleets fine or is there a way for me to improve them? Then once Z52+Rumey are levelled where+how would I slot them in?

[bold stream]

What gears do you use on her?

[hollow gust]

Don't think you should copy my setup

[hollow gust]

Would rather run full sakura with Eldridge and slot Fritz with Soyuz nahk

[atomic abyss]

i would swap shima for sirius
rumey would most likely replace haku and z52 would probably go where agir is

[hollow gust]

August heavy damage is pathetic, not to mention for heavy you really don't need a super strong slow

[atomic abyss]

dont most opsi bosses just move too fast for eld slow to work without significant tech boosting yr damage

i admit he has oath so he can probably get away with it but

[hollow gust]

Oath doesn't change anything , heavy arby basically doesn't move , and rest of the fleets are covered by nahk fleet

And for any content that's not harby, whiffing half your planes still kill

[fast steppe]

does the arbiter type change each month

[atomic abyss]

yes

[turbid dawn]

I think I use my fleet 4 to one shot everything but harbiter then try to 1-2 it with the other fleets

[hollow gust]

Each month is a different harby with different skill set

[fast steppe]

how much easier was this month's arbiter compared to previous months? I heard this one was the easiest of the year or smth

[hollow gust]

It is

Heavy is almost always the easiest ones for newbies, and the modifiers aren't very strong

[vagrant panther]

Are port fashion collections recorded in Memories?

[vale hill]

how good is Z52 and fritz compared to the current URS?

[hallow mountain]

between 52 and Fritz who should I prioritize in giving UR bulins
I can't MLB them though

[kind slate]

wheres the best place to get opsi supply coins?

[hollow gust]

Then save till you can mlb them, Fritz if you don't have other UR carriers

[atomic abyss]

Z52 is outright revolutionary
She's an all rounder like Plymouth with similar numbers to boot
Rumey just joins the cast of excellent UR CVs

[atomic abyss]

Grind
Do your hiddens, abyssals, strongholds, arbiter etc

[hallow mountain]

aight thanks

but why save though

when I can just go with it and give it to her right now

my dock space is full enough I need to clear some shit

[atomic abyss]

And that's exactly why you don't exchange bulins early

The other reason being URs, like any ship are useless before MLB

[kind slate]

oki thnx

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[glossy granite]

From the new years invitation, any ship i need to have? Or do i just pick whoever i like? My dock for references

Checked the faq but im clueless 😅

[atomic abyss]

The pinned message doesn't explain it clearly enough?

[glossy granite]

I could pick for ''waifu'' reasons but i dont know myself what i am lacking in terms of roles or tech points and stuff like that

[atomic abyss]

The reason why it says that is because none of them are that valuable gameplay wise

[vale hill]

Would they be a higher tier than laffey 2 on the tierlist

[atomic abyss]

Equal
They fulfil different roles

[glossy granite]

So i just pick whoever lol, im thinking about Zeppelin or bismarck

[atomic abyss]

Zepp then
If you're choosing between those 2

[glossy granite]

I thought i had belfast

[bold stream]

I will probably go with richeliu since I do not have her and zepp can be farmed if I am not wrong?

[atomic abyss]

No she cannot

Zepp and Richy are both in medal shop iirc?

[storm heron]

You should use evasion aux like the washing machine, and the other one toolbox is fine. Other than that, ches gun is better for the main gun, but it should be fine. Also hi pvp enjoyer, I see your name in top 100 little E

[bold stream]

Cv medal is 2 ijn cvs + enterprice + illusriuos

[atomic abyss]

Oh right, zepp isn't farmable anyways

[kind slate]

is there a way to make ships in opsi not do stupid moves like go into poison, when theres literally a harmless route

[atomic abyss]

Don't be lazy and manual then

[sharp socket]

only manual

[kind slate]

right. thnx

[barren tapir]

nope neither

[atomic abyss]

The debuffs are relatively inconsequential

[sharp socket]

alternatively make your fleet good enough that it doesnt matter when on auto

[barren tapir]

zepp richie and formi are the 3 that arent easily available, and i would prio those over anyone else if collection/waifu/whatever

theyre only in permanent pools while others have warchives, medal, merit etc

[bold stream]

I guess I will go with zeppy instead

[clever lance]

Do healers healing do more healing when they do more damage?

[bold stream]

Zeppy has like 160 eff 6 dive bombers right? How is she compared to saratoga?

[upbeat wagon]

What ship to pick from last beginner award? Already have enterprise

[storm heron]

she is meh compared to saratoga

[hollow gust]

Shit

[storm heron]

yes they are kinda healer

[storm heron]

what were the options again? and how are those options look to you

[clever lance]

I think the better way to phrase it is… are heals proportional to damage?

[bold stream]

How is this possible when zepp has better eff and they have same number of planes?

[upbeat wagon]

San diego, hood, illustrious

[storm heron]

I say we wait 2 days for medal shop

[upbeat wagon]

Alright

[storm heron]

saratoga has more avi right? lemme check...

[hollow gust]

Saratoga has far stronger skills

[storm heron]

not to mention her barrages too yeah

[glossy granite]

Hmm now im thinking about Richilieu

[hollow gust]

Meanwhile Graf needs her skills to even keep up with Saratoga base damage

[glossy granite]

Graf Zeppelin, Bismarck or richilieu

[soft dagger]

drake is like that, not a healer tho. no healer heals based on damage dealt yet afaik

[sharp socket]

sara does this, and also multiple barrages

[whole crypt]

skill explicitly tells you how much they will heal for and it's got nothing to do with damage

[storm heron]

wait zepp? you mean graf zep or zeppy

[clever lance]

So does it matter what planes unicorn has?

[upbeat wagon]

No it always heals a set amount

[clever lance]

Healers don’t really do much dmg anyway right

[bold stream]

Graf zeppy the free one from red card

[sharp socket]

uni does good damage

[remote quarry]

Unicorn deals significant damage in a mob fleet

[whole crypt]

Graf Zeppelin has a stupid skill that needs her to use a KMS plane, which basically makes sure you're stuck with at least 1 meh plane slot
Saratoga also has a lot of additional procs after retrofit and augment

[bold stream]

Is bf109 rocket fighter not a good plane?

[upbeat wagon]

How much delay between my unicorn's and saratoga's airstrikes are ideal

[whole crypt]

it does and it's not only for Unicorn, trying to maximize launches for heal is counterproductive because you're stretching fights by bringing less damage, and you won't necessarily get enough time for another heal proc

[whole crypt]

not in campaign because it has no interception and poor AOE

[bold stream]

I see. So barrage are better than higher eff planes?

[storm heron]

interesting, well gz is just not as good because of the barrages I guess, based on how ectl testing put them on different tier

yeah barrages might be better

[bold stream]

Thank you!

[whole crypt]

it's not specifically that the barrages are better but that you are forced to use 1 worse plane as well

[upbeat wagon]

Currently there is 3.5 seconds of difference between them

[whole crypt]

and Saratoga's augment barrages are definitely stronger than Graf Zeppelin's

[whole crypt]

what is this for

[upbeat wagon]

Mobbing

[whole crypt]

mobbing where, 3s is probably enough to get them to be clearing different waves though

[kind slate]

when im in a stronghold, can i leave halfway to heal in a port, then return?

[barren barn]

Hi should i pull for someone?

[whole crypt]

who are you trying to pull

[upbeat wagon]

Currently farming event but chapter 9

[barren barn]

Fritz rumey

[whole crypt]

then 3s desync should be good but not consequential regardless

[whole crypt]

she's good but is there's like 3 days left to pull her, is there some reason you're asking now

[barren barn]

Because i downloaded the game today

[upbeat wagon]

Musashi desync is 3 seconds too, is that ok

[upbeat wagon]

Than probably dont

[strange sphinx]

[thorn tartan]

is this a 2 week or 3 week event?

[barren barn]

I m returning player i have 140 cubes 50k coins

[strange sphinx]

oh nvm

[whole crypt]

do you have Yorktown II

[barren barn]

Yes

[storm heron]

oh lol just go for it

[whole crypt]

then go for it I guess

[barren barn]

Ok ty

How to get quick finishers

[whole crypt]

playing and waiting

[barren barn]

I don't have time

[kind slate]

whats the main incentive to do strongholds?

[whole crypt]

gold plates, lab materials, 2 guaranteed cat dives

[storm heron]

just sleep and look tomorrow with 4 ships finished (hopefully)

[whole crypt]

well there's no fast way to obtain them besides buying with gems which is totally not worth it

[soft dagger]

what is the last joint raid event?

[fast steppe]

is there any gameplay diff if I allow the invader siren to capture

[barren tapir]

sara retro skill kinda cracked even only 70% chance

aug barrage even more cracked

sara also has rdps contribution while zepp doesnt afaik

[vale spindle]

the enemy changes but thats it

[barren tapir]

it's also worth noting that sara's skills, retro, and augment all help improve where she shines, making her rather excellent in that role, whereas graf's skills and augment and whatnot are kinda...all over the place and don't have a real purpose beyond hey, decent statstick

[vale spindle]

they have different attacks and patterns when you kill it before it invades compared to after, but after you kill it you get the same rewards and continue the same way anyways

[strange sphinx]

KMS enjoyer can't really enjoy

[bleak mica]

I've just seen the community list remove Plygun from recommended 2nd gun slot from most BBs. Is there any reason for this, like the gun not being a good 2nd gun?

[barren tapir]

i mean i dont think graf zep is a bad ship...she's just mid in a sea of better and more easily accessible options, not to mention the fact that URs exist...

[whole crypt]

it's great, but do you have 4-6 q152s lying around to use on BBs

[barren tapir]

wasted on bb aux vg would take priority

it probably just got removed so ppl dont think it's worth it to put on bbs if you have cls

[bleak mica]

hmm ic
I thought the Plygun had a weakness or something so they gotta remove it...

[whole crypt]

to be fair it's probably fine to put on UR BBs in an OS boss fleet for the FP output, but vangaurds have a lot more weightage for campaign

[barren tapir]

and probably shouldnt have been on there for similar reason why oxytorp isnt suggested on dds its not a great idea unless you know what you're doing, and if you know that, you don't need ectl to tell you what to do

its fine/good to use if you have no cl that'd benefit from having it more, but that's not a super common situation. especially because ectl tiers around campaign mostly

[whole crypt]

vanguard durability aux is purely a durability priority concern, there are very few cases in campaign where oxytorps would be better in a way that matters
keeping in mind ECTL tiers for campaign

[wind hazel]

also ectl

[barren tapir]

that was my point

ectl doesnt typically list niche/uncommon situation gearing for campaign

[whole crypt]

if I remember correctly they rearranged BB guns in the order least likely to fuck you over in campaign, if followed blindly

[barren tapir]

plygun aux would fall under this imo, for the reasons you stated

[storm heron]

do you think I should ask why plygun is removed on tier-list-equipment?

[whole crypt]

it wasn't removed, it just wasn't added

[storm heron]

I want to see their reasoning for not adding them despite being the best, but I am afraid of c******

[whole crypt]

not like it matters ECTL is slowly falling out of relevance anyway

[barren tapir]

oh someone said it was removed not being added makes more sense

[barren tapir]

probably this

ectl doesnt typically list niche/uncommon situation gearing for campaign

can ask them to make sure though

well additionally to that i would hope that ectl does gearing based somewhat on realism as well, so while plygun is technically best, that also assumes you have like half a dozen plyguns

and bb aux would usually take a backseat priority to vanguard main guns

[wind hazel]

their recommendation doesn't care about what you may or may not have

[barren tapir]

theyre on the bottom for a reason

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

makes sense that lines up with my thoughts on it lol

[storm heron]

I guess that makes sense

[whole crypt]

*99.9％ of scenarios 2 years ago for campaign and before more shiny UR BBs

[barren tapir]

if you have infinite plyguns tho it would be good on bbs outside ch14 probably

[wind hazel]

it's a stupid reason to not include them. you should always recommend the best of the best lol

[barren tapir]

actually is plygun or 155kai better for ch14?

[whole crypt]

well it's ECTL

[storm heron]

ectl getting updated?

[whole crypt]

q152 is best gun for BB secondary, period

[barren tapir]

oxytorps on torp vgs when

[elfin hollow]

How to increase affnity fast

[barren tapir]

i know, survivability. but you cant deny in some situations oxys are bis

[whole crypt]

it's only "niche" if you base it on the condition of not having enough to share with vanguards

[barren tapir]

they do list oxy on some ships but iirc on most ships oxy provides more than an fp aux due to stat disparity or something

[whole crypt]

if you are referring to the BB main gun list they're are absolutely correct in ranking this order for the least likely to fuck you over in a stage

[barren tapir]

true and fair

now please do add oxytorp to every dd equipment loadout as an option

[whole crypt]

this gun order is specifically "if I have no idea what I'm doing, following this list from top-down is least likely to get me killed in campaign"

[barren tapir]

also ectl is ranking mostly early-midgame and up to ch13, from what i remember seeing on /tierlist

where survivability is less a concern than ch14-15

[whole crypt]

most of the basis was written before OS existed