gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

Her damage isn't that far behind mog

Serenity clearly is too obsessed with pvp to care about bossing

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

welcome to 2024 soon to be 2025 where that has ceased to be true for about 2-3 years at this point

[atomic abyss]

Unzen was literally the best ship for Rodney meta

She was the DPS carry because the backliners were forced to desync and lose a lot of their buffs

[whole crypt]

even Shimakaze was already pulling comparable damage numbers

[atomic abyss]

And now with Ibuki's Aug?

[whole crypt]

of course the main fleet ceiling has raised since, but so has the vanguard ceiling

[storm heron]

wait I have a question

why is Mog only have 2 mgm according to /wiki mog

[blissful hamlet]

still a argumen to use mog just to make unzen better, I don't even use unzen for my opsi boss

[storm heron]

wait does she has 3 mgm at the first place

[blissful hamlet]

and even if mog do more personal damage than z52, the difference are probably negligible in opsi boss

[whole crypt]

Mog also buffs TBs

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but z52 buff all

that's like comparing plymouth with helena

[whole crypt]

what? all 3 of your CVs will be using TBs

[atomic abyss]

No lmao
Only ply has mgm 3

[wind hazel]

you're not wrong that z52 will likely replace mogador

[tulip zenith]

what role does elridge retro fil

[atomic abyss]

Tank + slow support + asw

[whole crypt]

if anything I'd throw z52 in shelling fleet because less damage support options, mog can stay with CVs

[tulip zenith]

thx

[whole crypt]

she buffs IJN TB fleet fine, plus also boosting Kazagumo's torp damage, plus she has good damage herself, whoever the fuck you want the third vangaurd to be

z52 can buff BB fleet better since there are fewer buffer options

[storm heron]

the 5% z52 is for 10s every airstrike...

[fading wadi]

does the x3 apply to hard or just normal?

[plain saffron]

normal once per day

[forest palm]

just normal, and once per day

[fading wadi]

rip, thanks

[wind hazel]

5% dmg debuff is better than 6% increased trp damage no?

[whole crypt]

z52 in CV fleet you can basically assume every airstrike to be +5%, synced
mog is +6% torps likely to be up for most airstrikes

z52 might add a bit more to the carriers overall after you include barrage and DBs, but mog has better self damage

[ashen crow]

Should I farm 5-1 for the golden DD gun?

[forest palm]

you don't normally farm maps for gear, there's rare exception, but the shit from campaign is a no

[whole crypt]

there are good poverty purple guns for DDs

don't bother farming maps for gear in general

[ashen crow]

What is recommended to farm?

[whole crypt]

pushing chapters, event when you can

[ashen crow]

Event maps? OS?

[whole crypt]

basically the only time gear farming is recommended is when an event comes round with unique gear

otherwise you just push chapters until 9+, where XP and coin becomes significantly better after oil cost cap
OS is another thing you do on top of that

[storm heron]

maybe z52 is better indeed in mogador's niche

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying z52 is definitely better or worse than mog for a CV fleet, I'm just saying there are better places to use her

[blissful hamlet]

of course because all my CV will have 3 TB slots...

[wind hazel]

i've only used mog in meta showdown so far lol

[whole crypt]

TB is the majority of your damage when bossing

[blissful hamlet]

there's rocket fighter too

[whole crypt]

that's not a job for mog then

[wind hazel]

z52 is more universal than mog

[whole crypt]

we're talking about anti-heavy TB slotting

[blissful hamlet]

z52 is plainly better then

[whole crypt]

yeh but I can't use 2 Z52s

[blissful hamlet]

also mog only works in meta fight

[whole crypt]

she works everywhere

[blissful hamlet]

you can't sync mog in opsi

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter there are like 2 heavy bosses in OS neither of them move any much

I sniped this month's hermit with mog + 3 IJN

[storm heron]

eld + 2 IJN

[blissful hamlet]

so mog is just a deadweight slot

[wind hazel]

you can probably kill hermit with z52 just as good as well, lol

[whole crypt]

wtf serenity which part of 6% TB damage do you not understand

[blissful hamlet]

you can't sync mog with CV in opsi

[wind hazel]

maybe even better

[whole crypt]

like I said I can only use 1 Z52 and if I only get to use 1 then the other fleet gets it first

[storm heron]

[blissful hamlet]

CV have faster reload in opsi than in meta fight, unless you purposely slow them

[whole crypt]

I've not sycned mog to my 3IJN

you don't need to sync them to use her damage buff

[blissful hamlet]

yes you do

[whole crypt]

dude go read mog's skill

[storm heron]

her damage buff has like 100% uptime right?

[whole crypt]

it's 100% uptime as long as you don't miss the lunge proc

[blissful hamlet]

literally said the buff is only on the 12s proc or 24s for main fleet, where in opsi CV is usually faster than that

[whole crypt]

IT PROCS EVERY 12 SECONDS

[blissful hamlet]

it's like trying to sync 457 with helena 20s

[whole crypt]

IT LITERALLY REFRESHES ITSELF ON COOLDOWN DAMN IT

[wind hazel]

💀

[whole crypt]

god damn I keep forgetting talking to serenity is basically talking to a god damn wall

[plain saffron]

slash on 12s, cv hit on 20s(the slash still stays)

[blissful hamlet]

welp they should've made it clear the buff have no time limit

[whole crypt]

it does, the effect ends at 12s, but it also procs again in 12s

[boreal wagon]

it does have a time limit, its just that if she keeps attaching to the same enemy it effectively doesn't

[whole crypt]

so everytime it ends, it procs again, as long as mog doesn't miss or go lunge at something else

[plain saffron]

as you can see the buff practically always active assuming thisis a boss fight that that boss doesn't disappear for whatever reason

[whole crypt]

for the purposes of a boss fight it's effectively 100%

and like I said, it's not like I don't have plans for z52, she can buff BB fleet or maybe rocket fleet

you only get to use one of her, so better to split up roles

[boreal wagon]

technically u can get 2 of her but lets not go there, its useless for opsi anyway

[whole crypt]

ninja edited

but overall I'm taking my time to level the new URs because they can help carry shitters for leveling, neither are needed on short notice for one shot comps

[left cedar]

i'm almost completing Ply just to use her toghether with Z52 to buff my FdG ... i wanna see my FdG shooting hardest as i can

[storm heron]

sorry that was disrespectful of me

[tropic tusk]

that sounds so 18+

[left cedar]

i will do my first Ally PR after 5y of game just to see my FdG hitting hard

[plain saffron]

[last swift]

good?

[tropic tusk]

if thats all u have sure

[plain saffron]

who's rightmost one, is that the UR, if so, maybe use someone else

unless you right now already have 3 UR bulins needed to max limit break her

wait the new UR is CV am i dumb

[whole crypt]

that should be the new SR CL

[left cedar]

yeah, its Duis

she have nothing usefull for a begginer aside a okaish CL DMG, wut isnt much ...

[whole crypt]

she's shiny

also Little Renown based

[left cedar]

isnt her that is harmfull for u own ?

or something like that

[whole crypt]

nope

[hearty lake]

Anyone know what this is and or where its from?

[whole crypt]

little Illustrious, and I believe they finally fixed her

[soft raft]

AP CA Gun from PR6

[boreal wagon]

it used to be lil illus who was harmful to your own fleet but they fixed that

[whole crypt]

Little Renown is the one which little is better than OG

[hearty lake]

Thank you

[tropic tusk]

really?

[left cedar]

CA Guns are only noticiable change in 3 CAs currently
Hindy, Unzen and Michita
aside them, no big deal between gud golds and URs cuz none of them are capable of do enough dmg to be noticiable

[hearty lake]

Ugh its a CL gun i need a BB gun for bis zwei

[whole crypt]

vanilla Renown is just a shitty sheller
little has fast load and off the top of my head a stronger damage buff

[forest palm]

Renown herself is one of the worst ships in the game, the Child ver does everything she can't

[left cedar]

CL UR Gun its a low buff cuz extra FP in URs, but still more thing than use aside of 2 or 3 CLs dmg focused

[soft raft]

What (we told you that's a CA not CL gun)
And do you not have 406 Mk6, 406 MLE (PR3 BB Gun), or 406 MK7

[hearty lake]

Oof my b

This is what i have on her rn. (I havent played much lately for the past couple of years i only logged in for iron blood events so im poor in gear.) And i dont have any of those for prs.

[brave trail]

Bismarck Zwei oath skin

[tropic tusk]

tbf its normal bis oath skin its just zwei can also get the same one

it does looks really nice tho

[hearty lake]

Yup only skin ill run on zwei and reg bis rn. But i need to work on getting better gear

[brave trail]

i mean low cam angle skins are always

she does looks gorgeous in that

[tropic tusk]

cant wait for zwei to rerun so i can get my hands on her

[tulip zenith]

I can’t wait for over a year so I can pity get shinano from daily light pulls ☺️

[hearty lake]

Shinano is the reason i save until ur events and dump everything into them. Only missing mogador now. Back to farming i go

[tulip zenith]

i havent been doing dailies for a long time and now im just cooked

ur pity + dr prints be like

[eternal basalt]

You get a bunch pulling CNY from light next month

[tulip zenith]

whats cny

[tropic tusk]

chinese new year

[tulip zenith]

why would i get a bunch

do they add event ships to the light pool or something

[tropic tusk]

rate up pull

u pick like 2 charater on light/mid/heavy pull and then u pull that (they will have rate up )

[tulip zenith]

ohh right

[eternal basalt]

Mankit is wrong, you are right

[tulip zenith]

oh

are the ships good or just for collection

[tropic tusk]

isnt it u pick 2charate n their rate goes up?

[eternal basalt]

What Mankit means is wishing well, and that's in May.

[tropic tusk]

oh

[gilded shale]

Should I farm the A and B stages for the first x3 drop and then spam D3 or should I just spam D3?

[sharp echo]

thats an interestingly weird bug. the problem is this lvl 40 actually hurting my lvl 100 vanguard. i wouldnt care less if it the same as other

i just open the game again now, its gone

[soft raft]

if you can at least 1:1 A/B with lvl 120+ ships, sure you can do that
Then spam D3

Dont forget to do SP as well

[gilded shale]

1:1 to save oil?

[soft raft]

yes
technically you can get extremely oil efficent for 1:1 but for most people, it's not worth the hassle and they just throw 2 overlevled ships to curbstomp the A/B stages

[whole crypt]

you don't even need 120s to 1:1 for A/B but if you don't have low cost stuff lying around then

[gilded shale]

Could I go lower than 120? How low can I go?

[whole crypt]

with cross fleets whole of A can be done with 0LB CVL + DD, B is a little messier this time because of subs

if you have like not-MLB ships half-way through raising they're probably fair game above lv70

it's not much but it's better than spending additional oil and wasting XP on capped ships

[sharp echo]

if i make roon, can i still able to make other?

[tropic tusk]

u can after u complet her or u can change and wait 24 to switch again

[whole crypt]

you can make all of them, but you can only work on one ship at a time

[sharp echo]

oke2 good to know

is this good to make?

[whole crypt]

it's a pretty bad AA gun

[wet badge]

How do i get lots of golden circuit board thingies for gear

[fast steppe]

grind more opsi

[wet badge]

What corrosion lvl

[fast steppe]

have you cleared all the abyssals hiddens and strongholds

[wet badge]

I think

[whole crypt]

after finishing all special zones it's basically coping with cat node fishing on c5

[wet badge]

Ic

[tropic tusk]

5 is the best

[whole crypt]

of course also remember to clear out the materials from port shop

[fast steppe]

and try the arbiter at least

[jaunty pecan]

ideally i have to buy all of AH meta 2k thingies right

[worldly pewter]

i heard it was 3 and 5 for the lazy person

[worldly pewter]

don't think so

[tropic tusk]

3 does drop but 5 has higher drop rate

[undone plover]

They probably have the same cat node spawn/action point spent
But c3 has more akashi spawns

So overall c3 takes longer but gives more rewards

[deep wing]

Hi guys I just joined back and I'm very loss is there anything yall can guide me with like tips etc.

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[woeful sluice]

Should I get a CA (Takao, Atago, Eugen, Minneapolis) and a CL (San Diego, Belfast, Sirius, Dido) from the Medal Shop? I already have Eugen, Belfast and Sirius.

[eager mulch]

San Diego

[left cedar]

minne have a okish stat tech in 120

but not worth for begginers

[lofty patrol]

It was a good choice use the Messerschmitt Me-155A on Fritz Rumey?

Or I should have go for a different fighter?

[summer echo]

how to like change the fleet in op siren? i started it long ago and didnt play for more than 5mins of it and now i tried to retire a fleet but it shows me its locked in op siren...but i cant take it off there since it wont let me fsr, plz help

[atomic abyss]

Me 155A is horrible and never use it
Use the gold hellcat

[tranquil rock]

why isn't it letting me add blueprints to make her dev level 10?
is there a daily limit or something?
i keep pressing on the plus button but it isnt adding anything

[atomic abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[summer echo]

thank u smm

[atomic abyss]

As it literally says
Your ship cannot get more BPs as it is not at level 10

It can't go to dev 10 if it's not at level 10

[tranquil rock]

cant read gg

[atomic abyss]

Same way you can't do the first limit break before level 10

[lofty patrol]

I honestly prefer to stick to Faction item instead of plane that a ship would had never used also irl during WW2.

[boreal wagon]

imposing that on yourself is a massive handicap

[lofty patrol]

Why?

[atomic abyss]

Sorry then
All the actually good German fighters are shit for campaign/event use
And you're only going to fuck over your progress
Good gear matters more than good ships

[boreal wagon]

because not all gear is created equally

[atomic abyss]

The 1 good German fighter is niche

[lofty patrol]

Niche?

[atomic abyss]

It's horrible in campaign and events basically

[lofty patrol]

Hmm, ok.

[atomic abyss]

In this game, ignore faction for gear unless the ship specifically wants a gear from that faction

Unless you actively want to gate your progress for no reason

[lofty patrol]

It would be too hard to ignore tbh as history is my favourite subject.

But thanks.

[atomic abyss]

This game isn't historically accurate

[lament spade]

who should I get from free sr selection
also from medal shop (already got sandy)

[atomic abyss]

So it's probably not a good idea

[soft raft]

nor does it expect you to be historically acuurate

[atomic abyss]

Enterprise

[lament spade]

sry forget to mention
in shop rn are cl and ca
(also already got her)

[lofty patrol]

I honestly still stick to it, with wows open also for put the correct main gun, torpedo, AA and so on.

[atomic abyss]

Then don't expect help from here really

[soft raft]

📌 in regards to the invitation
Medal shop priority is Enterprise > Hood > Sandy > Sirius > Everyone else

[lofty patrol]

Alright and sorry then.

[soft raft]

anyone I didnt mention is mostly regarded as tech fdder

[sharp echo]

i should just buy bulin right?

[lament spade]

bought sirius, thx

[lofty patrol]

Just a my curiosity then what I should do? If not follow historical thing and so on?

[lament spade]

you can save them for later if you somehow want to

[sharp echo]

what should i save them for?

[lofty patrol]

I mean of equipment?

[atomic abyss]

In short, give them actually good gear based on the situation

[viscid swift]

Give Sam's equipment guide a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[lament spade]

anything that is in the shop which is only 6

[atomic abyss]

Buy only when you have enough to MLB ship at one go

[lament spade]

other 5 are just item for retrofit

[lofty patrol]

I will try if I know it wouldn't be easy and thanks

[lofty patrol]

Thanks.

[sharp echo]

to avoid filling the port is it?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[viscid swift]

Also because no one quite answered it throughly

The Me155 is shit because it carries no bombs and thus does not to do surface damage

[lofty patrol]

Alright.

I will read that guide for sure that guide and consider the option.

Thanks again.

[lament spade]

is hood worth investing?

[hallow mountain]

No

[lament spade]

dang

[hallow mountain]

But if beginner and you got nothing else, why not

[lofty patrol]

Last thing what you guys mean before for "gate" your progress??

[lament spade]

ok how about

shangri la

[hallow mountain]

Yeah she's decent iirc

[sharp echo]

finally expanded all 1f, i should straight away unlock 2f right?

[hallow mountain]

I'd say you better spend your gems somewhere else

[viscid swift]

You become unable to push/do content because your gear is shit

[sharp echo]

i thought 2f for additional morale slot?

[deep wing]

Thanks my g

[lofty patrol]

Could you explain it a little more please?

[hallow mountain]

They're precious and having another dorm is honestly not the best investment when it's just cosmetics and not much practical use other than moral and level ups

[lament spade]

5th slot or 2f

[viscid swift]

And you would be completely wrong

[hallow mountain]

Yeah go ahead tho, friend told me that while ago

[viscid swift]

2nd floor is incredibly valuable

[soft raft]

You're ignoring the fact that with 3 dorm slots and 2nd floor, you can put a whole fleet's worth of ships

[hallow mountain]

Things probably changed since I came back

[viscid swift]

I mean what more is there to explain really

[soft raft]

IE you can slot your whole mob fleet in there and everyone has faster morale regen instead of just half of them

[lament spade]

idk why did I ask when I already bought it

[sharp echo]

[lofty patrol]

Nevermind then and thanks.

[viscid swift]

Your performance just becomes inadequate of you insist on using faction only and thus shit gear

[hallow mountain]

Wait holy shit am I not taking care of my girls properly

[viscid swift]

As opposed to using good gear which is not same faction only

[lofty patrol]

Regarding that I honestly don't have much option a part going completely fictional tbh.

[hallow mountain]

For the nearly 6 years I've been playing this game I neglected the morale system

[lament spade]

what kind of slave labour is that

[lofty patrol]

It would be really hard use gear that isn't of the same faction honestly unless it's temporarily for me.

[hallow mountain]

Payment is seggs and oil

[remote quarry]

Better get that sorted before YK2 rerun. Gonna need that morale to farm those HVARS

[hallow mountain]

But seriously though do I need to invest in my dorms?

I have some spare gems

[remote quarry]

Generally recommended as the #1 priority to invest in

[viscid swift]

I would highly recommend it yes

[lament spade]

I mean
4th slots with 2nd floor should be enough

[hallow mountain]

Damn ok thanks

[soft raft]

2nd floor and 3rd slot is very worth it for anyone that grinds with any sort of consistency

[viscid swift]

3rd slot and 2nd floor at least

[soft raft]

4th slot isnt really worth it
And anything after that is too expensive for F2Ps

[lofty patrol]

Should I try maybe with one ship go completely casual and fictional of equipment?

[sharp echo]

this one is good right?

[remote quarry]

I unlocked all 6 slots and 2nd floor. The QoL of having 2 full fleets to grind events with cannot be overstated

[lofty patrol]

Or not worth?

[soft raft]

2nd best backliner AA

[lament spade]

spare me some pocket money

[sharp echo]

got it

[remote quarry]

Ignore faction entirely. Even the faction buffers are not worth gimping yourself

[viscid swift]

Put it like this
Try a comparison of one fleet in some of the most difficult content you can handle right now between optimal and your historically accurate gear

[hallow mountain]

I only have 3 slots in my current dorm, should I unlock the rest or just buy the 2nd floor?

[viscid swift]

And see the difference in performance

[remote quarry]

2nd floor

[soft raft]

just buy 2nd floor

[hallow mountain]

Aight

[lament spade]

2nd

[turbid dawn]

I don't have Implac+YorkII (I think they're the only URs I'm missing, and fleet 4 is my mobbing fleet), are these fleets fine or is there a way for me to improve them? Then once Z52+Rumey are levelled where+how would I slot them in?

[tropic tusk]

yk2 coming next next week

[lofty patrol]

That's almost impossible for me tbh.

[viscid swift]

why?

[lofty patrol]

Right now it's just I can't do the C and D of event as I have ship that High of level.

[viscid swift]

all the more reason for you not to do faction gear

[lofty patrol]

Because I associate it with real life one, equipment used by the entire Class of ship used, if there where Refit or no and so on.

[viscid swift]

you can hardly get good gear period then, let alone good gear from one faction

as a student of naval history I can understand that, but as said before this is not a simulator

it's a gacha game that's vaguely tied into to naval history

[lofty patrol]

I see.

[hallow mountain]

Bought the second dorm
If the moral is 117 it's bad right?

[forest palm]

no?

[tropic tusk]

moral defult is 117? is it

[viscid swift]

well max without dorm is 119 so no

[hallow mountain]

Oh ok I can keep putting them back in the farming fields then

[forest palm]

you grind until moral hits 0

[lofty patrol]

Thanks kimi no sei and I will try.

[hallow mountain]

[tropic tusk]

when 1 hits 0 u switch to another ship

[lofty patrol]

I promise it.

[viscid swift]

I grind until morale hits 120 then stop

[hallow mountain]

Damn kinda hard to spend those gems though

Was waiting for Kashino's outfit

[sharp echo]

whats yk2? york 2? is it must have?

this thing allow 2x drop but only spend 1x morale?

[viscid swift]

no, you spend x2 morale

[sharp echo]

oooh okey

[elfin hollow]

would shipbuilding support ticket be in yk2 event, I’ve never been thru UR rerun what does it do

[viscid swift]

yes, should be 44

[soft raft]

it's double everything (including the negatives) besides # of sorties ran for "Do X # of sorties" type missions

Essentially only use it if you lack as much time to grind

[sharp wave]

What main gun and torpedo should I put on z52

[sharp echo]

i should have use this since last week

i forgot about it

[ivory pawn]

Best gun is considered the single 113 from gear lab. The blue 76aa works well as a poverty option.
Torp is just the usual. Quad mags if you have some, purple non-mag quads for poverty, probably some decent options in-between.

[sharp wave]

Ok

What aux would be good for z52

[soft raft]

typical DD stuff

[fair lance]

I think I’ve seen people run double hp.

[fresh veldt]

Hey all new player here~ I checked the pins but they are bit vague 😄 or perhaps I am missing something

Just looking for some direction atm. I pulled the UR ship and it is carrying me.

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tipsz

might wanna start by giving that a read

[fresh veldt]

I have been following that. Glad to hear it is still up to date thanks

[fair lance]

So what are you confused about?

[fresh veldt]

So I'm trying to do the event however the first normal stage is giving me trouble - I was only able to just clear it without losing portland.
looks like I may not be able to get the event ships

[eager mulch]

that’s just the new player experience

[weary gust]

If you just started the game you won't be able to clear the event. Try to get at least enough points to buy the limited ships.

[fresh veldt]

gotcha fair enough - I'll see if I can.

[weary gust]

z52 you should be able to get at least by doing the minigame, a few of the daily missions that give the medals, and buying the remainder with points. She would be your top priority.

Hipper at 8k might be beyond what you can reach and isn't great anyways.

Probably better to get the torpedos from the event that cost 2k than a Hipper copy unless you really care about collection and aren't willing to wait 2 years for this event to rerun.

[fresh veldt]

TY for the advise. I will go that route. I did not take advantage of the daily event mission . tackling that now.

[sharp echo]

cant use bulin on hipper meta?

[viscid swift]

nope

[sharp echo]

ooooh

[weary gust]

Metas limit break using crystals instead.

[mellow cape]

The majuu mini game gives about 75 and daily missions can get you to 200 easily

Free Z52 lol

[lofty patrol]

Regarding the Dormitory. How do you expand it?

[sharp wave]

I sadly waisted those ur vouchers on gold so I had to grind the event for the event currency then exchange it

[ivory pawn]

Click on the expansion area, then click on the permit that pops up to buy it. Yes, the UI sucks.

[soft raft]

bruh 💀

[sharp wave]

It was a pain

Also is z52 a mod ship or a boss ship

[fresh veldt]

best uses of gold?

[soft raft]

ignoring gacha pulls, mainly limit breaks and gear lvls if you're new
then later on your gold is mostly used on research

[weary gust]

Whatever you need it for most. Constructing ships, limit breaking, cognitive awakening, upgrading gear, increasing levels of utilities (canteen/merchant), etc.

Gold is used for basically everything, you get a lot of it and spend a lot of it.

[spring bolt]

resetting cats

[north crescent]

hello, is giulio cesare meta good ? I am in early game and I dropped it

[weary gust]

She's not awful but nothing special

[whole crypt]

she didn't just drop, she's part of the season pass and you get her for free regardless
and not she's not that good

[south sequoia]

Disregard any meta ships as an early game player

[south sequoia]

Ships with the META title by the way not the ships that are actually in the meta

[keen sable]

You can spend a day outside event leveling if you want but time is running out. Ur bulin may be out of reach now with 4 days remaining but try for z52 and torp

[lofty patrol]

With coins or gems?

[whole crypt]

slots are bought with gems
floor space is bought with furniture tokens that you'll need to just save through gameplay

[ivory pawn]

Dorm Tokens to expand the area of the 1st floor.
Gems for the 2nd floor.

[lofty patrol]

I see and thanks.

[soft osprey]

okay, i just got the last fragment for gnei meta. shoul i go for ark meta, qemeta, hiryuu meta, souryuu meta or scharnhorst meta?

[willow dock]

Do we know the DMG mod of 52's ghost gun?

[elfin osprey]

Im a new player, I got these ships, I'm confused on who to use for main fleet to clear stories

[fresh kettle]

Which one is better? I've only just played the game, so i don't have many good ships yet

[viscid swift]

give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elfin osprey]

Oh kkay thanks

[sweet delta]

If you mean the red barrage and not ghost gun, it's 100% to all armors

[soft osprey]

probabaly formidable.

[sweet delta]

Unless there is an Enterprise in the medal shop sometime soon, pick Theseus as part of the main fleet

[fresh kettle]

what is the reason? is her DPS or support?

[sweet delta]

She's mid, but so is almost everyone in the invitation

[tidal owl]

Should I buy any of these out of the medal shop?

[fresh kettle]

alr thanks

[elfin osprey]

Alright thanks sushi

[soft osprey]

if you didn't lmb eugen and you don't have a better tank, eugen. if you do have a better tank, sandy

[sweet delta]

Have you finished the rookie exam?

[fresh veldt]

so to make fodder for limit breaking past 2 stars I should limit break 1 star units multiple times?

[soft raft]

At best San Diego and Sirius
all the others there are basically tech fodder and Eugen isnt really worth it

[soft raft]

what
that's not how it works

[tidal owl]

No I still need to get laffey to level 70

[thin nova]

sandi and sirius is good

[sweet delta]

Do you have enterprise? If yes pick Sirius, if no then pick San Diego

[tidal owl]

Ok I’ll go sirius

[thin nova]

tbh

you will eventually get all of these

and Sandi only good if you retrofit her

[viscid swift]

not true

[sweet delta]

That's true but does it affect the choice?

[viscid swift]

Sandy is quite good pre retro with her augment now

[soft raft]

not 100% true
unique aug does wonders for her DPS

[viscid swift]

and yes you will eventually get all of them but the choice does still matter

[thin nova]

oh is it? Idk that

[ivory pawn]

Just because you will eventually get all of them, doesn't mean you should just pick a random choice. Some are still better to get sooner than others that can wait for the future.

[sweet delta]

Yes pre retro sandy with augment is better than fully retro starter DD with aug

[fresh veldt]

Looking to limit break these two however I don't have any fodder for them. Why would I not use white units to make them 3 stars?

[sweet delta]

Because you can't

[fresh veldt]

oh

[viscid swift]

because you can't

[soft raft]

you havent reached the mininum lvl threshold to limit break laffey yet

[soft osprey]

yu can only use bullins or dupes to limibreak

[eager mulch]

they are already at 3 stars

[stark quiver]

Do we know the medal ship rotation cycles for next year

[sweet delta]

Limit break uses duplicate ships or bulins of the correct rarity, no exceptions

[soft raft]

nop

[viscid swift]

anyway, you do have bullins you can use on Lafey and Fritz well, that's why you drop her from the fleet

[soft osprey]

nope

[fresh veldt]

TY guys - appreciate it!

[sweet delta]

You ship to be level 30 for the second limit break anyways

[stark quiver]

Back to praying for bb pool then

[sweet delta]

LB your enterprise and Helena now

[tidal owl]

Another question, should I just push story and worry about getting 3 stars on the missions later?

[fresh veldt]

Is it ok for me to use this for enterprise?

[ivory pawn]

Not only okay, but recommended.

If you could get a dupe, you'd use that first, but you can't so you use bullin.

[sweet delta]

If you tried/know you can three star N-4 of a chapter, then three star the whole chapter N to unlock its hard mode

It's quite important to start doing hard mode 3 times daily, even if it's just chapter 1

[tidal owl]

I have been to get retrofit mats for Portland, just need 5 more levels on her to get the last one I think

In a bit of an oil shortage at the moment so I’m doing as many commissions for it as I can

[fathom isle]

I just started out a few days ago and I cleared the event stages. But I probably won’t be able to clear the hard stages, is it still worth it for me to farm the event for the shop? If yes what would be worth it to get from there?

[ivory pawn]

Yes, in order to get a copy of Z52.

And hopefully the quad torps too.

[viscid swift]

low cost B3 the best you can, you haven't got much time to work with

[ivory pawn]

Probably best to run each stage once daily to take advantage of the 3x.

[fathom isle]

Yeah I did that and got Z52 too. But I’ll farm to get a copy and the other stuff too, thank you both!

[stark quiver]

is it possible for certain hulls to be repeated in the next month for medal shop

[ivory pawn]

Yes. I swear I've seen CL three times in a row now. Was probably actually just twice, but still.

[undone plover]

I think thorin mentioned this was possible yes

previously we thought the order mattered, so for example if u had BB, CA then only slot 2 could roll BB but now I believe we know even slot 1 can repeat it

[stark quiver]

i need my mikasa gun

[elfin hollow]

Would Pola benefit from an HE gun? Or CA's and HE guns don't fit for each other?

[viscid swift]

the one on the right is just better than the one on the left

[elfin hollow]

Aight so Pola gets the Naval Mount 🔧

[sweet delta]

There's no limitations on ammo type

[weary gust]

Pola would benefit from being a better ship

[sweet delta]

CA HE is good against light, CA AP is good against medium, good guns are better than bad guns

[low juniper]

What's good gear for Duisburg

[fresh veldt]

I don't need to roll on this anymore right? Save my cubes? I have the ur

[atomic abyss]

yes

[atomic abyss]

typical CL gear

plygun, quad mags, etc

[low juniper]

Anything other than Ply gun? Still can't afford it

[sweet delta]

/equip scroll to CL guns in the picture guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[stark quiver]

if im making a bb fleet for temperence, which 3 vanguards will be the best, no helena
cuz im thinking ply,aurora,unzen

[sweet delta]

depends on the BBs, don't use Unzen

[left cedar]

maybe Agir/Ply/Z52

[sweet delta]

there's z52 or eldridge

[sweet delta]

Aurora is bis

[stark quiver]

i dont think temperence has much vanguard pressure right?

and no z52

[dusk maple]

every arbiter has a high vanguard pressure

[left cedar]

i feel like that
all them have more pressure on VG than in main, and Hermit is the closest one to kill Main, and is hardy to see that happejn, well at least with me

[weary gust]

I can't think of many bosses in the game that kill your main before frontline. W14 and W15, Warspite CM, maybe W13? Are there even any others?

[stark quiver]

not rly

[barren tapir]

bb abyssals if you dont interrupt their attacks

[tulip zenith]

Ex fleet

[gilded carbon]

How good is the Torp in theShop?

[viscid swift]

pretty much the best for auto

[white agate]

top tier

[white agate]

so, since hvar during yk2 will drop only from sirens and boss does this mean i have to do all manual

[left cedar]

⏲️

Auto priorize Humanoids targets

[viscid swift]

no, auto prioritizes clearing elites

[white agate]

nice

[stark quiver]

auto prioritizes getting me bps

[left cedar]

but luck dosnt help much often

[viscid swift]

did CN ever get the drop rates for SP?

[white agate]

if rates were as the current event for fdg gun then i think 2-3 bp every 9 runs in hard d3

[stark quiver]

do we even have the rates fpr d3

[fresh veldt]

Why does this stage only show 50% when I completed it by killing all enemies?

[stark quiver]

defeat the stage(boss) one more time

[viscid swift]

because 100% clearing and 3 starring are completely separate affairs

you can 100% clear without 3 starring and vice versa

[fresh veldt]

Gotcha ty guys

I haven't retrofit anyone yet. Should I retrofit my starter? (for the newbie quests)

[soft raft]

you gotta at one point
same with Portland

And Unicorn's retro is a very high prio

[fast steppe]

what are the map drops for the yk2 event

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Parallel_Superimposition

[fast steppe]

thanks

[soft raft]

Tho basically nothing notable besides Hellcat HVAR on D3

[fast steppe]

is hellcat hvar prio enough to start saving oil for

[stark quiver]

if u want big dmage against light yea

[gusty niche]

Is it worth replacing uni with perseus?

[soft raft]

not really
especially after retrofitting Unicorn

Unicorn's main advantadge over Perseus is that she isnt screwed over by +90% longer reload time

[stark quiver]

If I’m already in this screen of oathing a ship and I exit the game, does it cancel the oath

[fast steppe]

do y'all stop doing the 1200 oil comms when saving

[stark quiver]

i dont do them to begin with

[soft raft]

i stopped doing those lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng ago

[fast steppe]

balls

[gusty niche]

Thats nice to hear, Unicorn has been with me for years

[stark quiver]

it in fact does not cancel 💀

[fast steppe]

do they refresh daily at least

cause if I see one with cubes I'm always taking that

[ivory pawn]

They do not.

[fast steppe]

ic

[fresh veldt]

Is this free exp?
If so how do I use it?

[spring bolt]

it's expensive xp, since it's more recommended to convert them and get good gears

[viscid swift]

no, tap analyze and convert it all to Prototype Cores

[inland shoal]

You click analyze

[fresh veldt]

gotcha so no other way of using it lol

[inland shoal]

If you really hate grinding exp and absolutely want to use this shortcut you'd do it in the research -> shipyard tab

[spring bolt]

you can use them to speed up pr ship exp grind, not very wise tho

[inland shoal]

But doing so is just scamming yourself out of good equips

[fresh veldt]

gotcha gotcha

TY as always guys!

[steel grotto]

opsi fleet rec

[fickle parcel]

What should I do with 25k prototype cores if I have what is considered BiS gear already?

[viscid swift]

just sit on it and wait

[stark quiver]

hold onto them

[fickle parcel]

Okie, thanks!

[onyx wharf]

im dummy, how to get more xp-level up thingies? I cant craft them, can I? I guess i could do 12-4 etc for gold farm and stuff in the meantime and produce 'em that way

[viscid swift]

what XP things exactly

[onyx wharf]

xp data packs

[spring bolt]

auto generated from lecture hall, and you sortie with lv100+ ships to fill up the pool so it just keep generating
the rate is fixed after you upgraded lecture hall

[onyx wharf]

ahh most of my iron blood ships im using to unlock agir arent 100 so that might be why im not getting a lot from that, theyre just under

tyvm!

[still nest]

Does File Zones unlock certain features? I don't remember having 1 port with all of the port shop

[ivory pawn]

No. The port shop change came with the first monthly reset after they implemented the new shop.

File zones just give a bunch of goodies if you clear 'em.

[north crescent]

on which ship should I use the "special general blueprint" ?

[jaunty vault]

what season is it

[still nest]

Thank you

[north crescent]

series 7

[jaunty vault]

nakhimov ig
or just save till you need them
(i assume you're new and have neither nakhi nor Napoli)

[soft osprey]

is fritz good fo replacing shinano (both mlb)

[stark quiver]

for what content

[misty tree]

If i have Kearsarge, Shimanto and one copy of the hindy gun built, should i just move onto series 7?

[inland shoal]

I'd say it depends on how close you are but yes

[misty tree]

Hindy is Dev 26 with only 136 prints missing

[low juniper]

If a lvl 125 ship hits the 3M exp cap, will they still count for getting exp for research?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[low juniper]

Oh okay

[ashen crow]

Can’t you get into 2 devices with a yostar account?

[jaunty vault]

you can

[inland shoal]

Yes, you just can't play AL on the same server at the same time

[ashen crow]

I can’t

[jaunty vault]

id finish pr6

[eager mulch]

id also finish pr6

[misty tree]

What else should i be hoping for from PR6?

Isn’t PR6 catchup coming in a few weeks?

[stark quiver]

nothing really, maybe a 2nd hinden gun , but thats low prio compared to the la9

[onyx wharf]

cant seem to break through 13-1 with my fleet: should i bring two healers or one healer and two dps for the backline along?
got san diego and fairly strong units (but even san diego takes a whopping lot of dmg in this map)

[stark quiver]

could run unicorn + 2 other cv since its a plane heavy map

[onyx wharf]

ill try that o7

[low juniper]

Is it better to use Siren coords or let them be exchanged for shop vouchers?

[eager mulch]

use

[forest palm]

just use them

[onyx wharf]

its working much smoother now, yey

[fresh veldt]

Unlike the yellow one attached. I cannot analyze this is it only for using it?

[hollow gust]

That's for leveling ships , the other one is for developing ships. This one feel free to use

[fresh veldt]

I can't use them till I'm commander level 30 I guess

[ivory pawn]

If you mean the white packs, they're used from the character's profile screen. The other ones you asked about earlier can be analyzed immediately, so technically you can use both now.

[viscid swift]

I would with PR6 cathup dropping in about a month

[mild crest]

Does this mean it's just gonna auto 4 runs because that'll complete the HP bar?

[hollow gust]

Those things come from lecture hall, which converts some of your gain exp from lvl100+ ships to these packs . You can see boost exp for ships that can use them

[hollow gust]

It does it in the background, so you can do other stuff

[mild crest]

nothing to lose right if i just auto it?

[hollow gust]

Nope , although it does take 15 min, technically faster just doing it manually

[burnt bramble]

I keep using the 10 hour commisions to level up my ships slowly. I'm almost all the way there for all my ships.

[soft raft]

stop that at once jfc

[viscid swift]

yeah that's just overall a waste of oil

[soft raft]

and time

[mild crest]

use that oil into progressing chapters and lvling ships by clearing stages

[burnt bramble]

Would Unicorn all I'd need for healing if I went to chapter 13 right now with other good ships?

[shell willow]

we get 500 cores from retiring URs right?

[hollow gust]

That counts toward your monthly so consider it 0

[soft raft]

Yes, especially after retro

[burnt bramble]

Good, then let's see if I can take it all the way to Chapter 15.

After the event ends.

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

this can only end well/s

[somber epoch]

can i send a sc of my charcters here and someone help me make a team or is that frowned upon?

[eager mulch]

in a thread

[soft raft]

as long as you do it in a thread, it's fine

(This thing)

[somber epoch]

ok cool thanks

[shell willow]

ohh i had no idea, thx

[barren barn]

Hi how to get the research ships fast

[viscid swift]

grind W12 with 3 applicable ships, preferbly ones that need levels

[soft raft]

3 applicable ships + 3 other ships and go grind your ass off on a W9+ map (Ideally 12-1 or 12-4)

[barren barn]

Ah i just farm them

[burnt bramble]

Grind it out. I'm doing so in event right now. Least til I get the prints in the shop then I'll stop.

[somber epoch]

can i send a sc of my charcters here and

[viscid swift]

should be aiming for 55k event points really

[burnt bramble]

1-1.2M on day one, and 2-2.4M on day 4 or so, grinding EXP for research ships anyway...

Unless you no-life it, you aren't going to get it done soon.

[rain vine]

exp farming is the faster part of getting research ships
12-1/4 spam makes it pretty quick

[full spire]

what are some main campaign levels to farm for good gear/ships/xp?

like 2 years ago when i played 12-4 was meta, is that still the case?

[viscid swift]

you don't farm campaign for gear prints and most of the ship drops aren't worth going for outside of collection

[soft raft]

you dont farm campaign for gear
the only somewhat relevant campaign drop ship for pratical purposes is Yuudachi from 6-4
12-4/12-1 for XP

[viscid swift]

but for XP and coins W12 is still 2nd to none

[last zenith]

12-4 is still viable

[full spire]

which world is 1st?

[stark quiver]

What

[viscid swift]

2nd to none means it is 1st

[full spire]

oh mb

sorry for my bad english comprehensation

[last zenith]

I feel u

[eager mulch]

[last zenith]

Is it good that I’m free to play and I still have 1000 jems

[eager mulch]

maybe

not hard to get 1000 gems early as a f2p

[last zenith]

I’m not early

[eager mulch]

neither am i

[last zenith]

Lol

[sharp socket]

how many more UR vouchers can we get now from daily

is it 30 or 40

[steep idol]

Brest port is red and doesn't have a resupply or other amenities. How do I make it usable as a port

[sweet delta]

you don't, red ports are just empty zones unless there's a green daily mission icon over it

[ivory pawn]

Excluding today’s, there’s 3 days left, and 10 per day. So 30, +10 if you still need today’s.

[steep idol]

Ack, okay! Thanks for clarifying

[dim summit]

is there a way to run a functional backline with Kearsarge and Nakhimov?

[dreamy blade]

yes if you have tashkent

[soft raft]

or Soyuz

[dreamy blade]

that wouldnt activate kearsarges skill

[dim summit]

doesn't Kearsarge need a EU CV?

[dreamy blade]

you need an np slow in the vanguard e.g. tashkent so you can run a uss main fleet for the 3rd slot

[dim summit]

Got it

[storm heron]

kear nakh ytII laffii tash sirius/aurora

[soft raft]

oh Kear
nvm

Yeah Yk2

[hollow gust]

Tash users

Honestly would be better running a voroshilov tank, Tashkent main tank is pretty iffy

[dreamy blade]

but laffii would main tank in that setup no

[hollow gust]

Why use Laffey when you can just run full damage amp

Like Aurora and Helena

[storm heron]

true true

[dreamy blade]

helena and cleveland

[storm heron]

perhaps sirius not that good for 2 CV

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

Do remember , voroshilov is tankier then Eugen in a lot of content

My Fumo and Golburn Voro can survive harby

[fresh veldt]

What does this mean?

Is it just that I'm out of ammo? Perhaps just a poor translation?

[eager mulch]

you’re at 0 morale and affinity will go down if you keep fighting

[viscid swift]

no, it means your ships are at 0 morale and if you continue to fight their XP gain will be cut in half among other things

[sharp kestrel]

Good build for this?

[fresh veldt]

Oh I didn't realize moral was something to worry about

[plucky cloud]

Your Morale on that shipgirl is at 0, or close to that, affinity can go down if you choose to do so

[hollow gust]

pretty bad

[fresh veldt]

Any tips in maintaining it

[white agate]

well, ships have human rights so you need dorm to get back moral

[viscid swift]

rudder doesn't do much on her and use a faster firing main gun

[rigid onyx]

just use a 76mm if you dont have a 113mm

[plucky cloud]

Make use of the Dorm feature and the Morale will go back up over time, usually only a few hours is needed to get Morale back to max

[hollow gust]

smh not +13

[viscid swift]

hey, don't think I can't see that +12

[sharp kestrel]

133 MM?

[rigid onyx]

gun in screenshots above

i cant type

[viscid swift]

it's a 113mm

[sharp kestrel]

Oh

[sweet delta]

you mean that these builds aren't good?

[viscid swift]

god there's something wrong with all of them

[hollow gust]

that quint lmao

[storm heron]

at least one item sus

[rigid onyx]

is there any reason to leave thru the portal in opsi instead of just clicking the exit button

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

if you're sure you finished the map. Maybe it's not finished (so there's no portal) and you press the exit button

[hollow gust]

last one isnt thaaat bad

[viscid swift]

except they labeled it "anti aviation"

with that AA gun

[fresh veldt]

Is this worth it?

[hollow gust]

nope

[fresh veldt]

Any early red gem usage suggestions

[hollow gust]

if you dont level random ships, you are perfectly fine

3rd dorm. 2nd floor, then rest into dock slots

[sharp kestrel]

So like this?

[rigid onyx]

i think that AA gun is suited for main fleet & not vanguard

[viscid swift]

well that AA gun is wasting her AA abilities

[atomic abyss]

Correct, it's generally preferred on the main fleet
It's wasted on someone with actually good AA

[vale spindle]

it can be used on vanguard ships if the vanguard ship has bad aa

[dreamy blade]

use the sword augment for fp as well

[atomic abyss]

She also does not want offensive auxes, like most if not all vanguards

[elfin hollow]

sorry this is technically not gameplay but something Ive been wondering about recently. 1. Do limited secrets get reruns? The audio thingies. 2. How regularly are retrofits and new ships andded to the research ship yard thing

[hollow gust]

New ships once a year, secrets no one knows , retrofits like once or twice a year

[atomic abyss]

1. Limited secrets are random as far as I'm aware
2. Retrofits are random
3. We've gotten new shipyard ships every year in July

[viscid swift]

1. none have rerun so far
2. new retrofits are added usually every Lunar New year, CN Anni, EN Anni, and JP Anni
   new research ships are added usually every Mid July

[vale spindle]

1. not sure since it hasn't happened yet iirc
2. retrofits are usually a couple times per year, the retrofit wiki page lists the dates of each past retrofit
3. new ships are added to research shipyard once per year

[storm heron]

[elfin hollow]

Ok thanks

[rigid onyx]

Is it leaked if hinde gun will be added to shop soon

i remember plygun was added around this timeframe last year

[sharp kestrel]

I dunno what AA I'd use I have no UR AA

[viscid swift]

there are no leaks in AL but based on past presedence I would expect it to be added some time around Lunar New Year

[dreamy blade]

roomba

[sharp kestrel]

Roomba?

[eager mulch]

Twin 113mm

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_113mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)#Type_3-0

[sharp kestrel]

That is from gear lab yes?

[viscid swift]

no, you can get it from tech boxes

[sharp kestrel]

I don't have that..... Never do Opsi....

[dreamy blade]

or royal navy tech boxes

they cost electronics so probably not worth from gear lab (especially if you never do opsi )

oh prints can drop from 11-4 as well

[forest palm]

ew...no

[eager mulch]

id rather farm 12-4

[dreamy blade]

the gold aa gun that drops from 12-4 is fine too

[viscid swift]

I'd rather farm 12-1

[eager mulch]

id rather farm the event

[forest palm]

that's a DD gun

[sharp kestrel]

Like this?

[eager mulch]

looks good enough

[viscid swift]

yes, if she isn't dying

[atomic abyss]

Toolbox x2 otherwise

[dreamy blade]

oh whoops idk why i thought the twin 105 was from 12-4

[sharp kestrel]

U can do toolbox 2?

[atomic abyss]

The stats stack

[dreamy blade]

yes for the hp, just the passive doesnt stack

[atomic abyss]

Even if the passive heal doesn't

[rigid onyx]

you dont get double the healing but toolbox is mostly for the massive hp boon; if you have a 550 hp aux + a toolbox it would be better than double toolbox

[atomic abyss]

And the toolbox is the most accessible HP stat stick

Anything better is usually event limited or cost core data

And frontliners almost always want defensive auxes

[dreamy blade]

the chef aux from the TLR collab is good to use instead of a 2nd toolbox

[sharp kestrel]

Chef?

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bubbly-Boily_Chef

[sharp kestrel]

Ooh

Ty2

[tulip belfry]

Hi

Noob question here.... how i can get main fleet experience for a pr ship if i have maxed all my main fleet for that faction?

[atomic abyss]

It still counts even if the ships are max level

[tulip belfry]

Thnx for the reply. So, is not wasted? 🤔

[atomic abyss]

In the first place, what's your definition of maxed?

[worldly pewter]

yeah sounds like an oxymoron lurking here

[tulip belfry]

125 lvl ships

[storm heron]

I would just not do the pr grind until I get more ships

[atomic abyss]

125 and 3 million? Or just 125

[worldly pewter]

after 125 the ships will store up to 3m exp then the rest will be wasted

[atomic abyss]

If they're not capped at 3 mil exp
I would just use them if I really want/need the ship

[tulip belfry]

Only 125.
My doub is because, i dont knpw if i can use a 125 ship to get pr ship progress

[viscid swift]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[dreamy blade]

you can it's just a "waste" bc that exp could go towards ships that are not 120/125 yet

[tulip belfry]

Thnx for the help!

[dapper willow]

whats the best in the monthly core shop

[storm heron]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[dapper willow]

i meant iwth the prototype 203mm, the barracuda, dauntless and etc.

[atomic abyss]

All not worth buying

[dapper willow]

so none of the SR stuff is worth buying?

[storm heron]

unless they are in the list yes

[atomic abyss]

They're worse than existing options basically

[dapper willow]

i got like 1114 cores so idk what to use them for

[atomic abyss]

Shells

[dapper willow]

i got a type 1 already

[atomic abyss]

3 pairs of white and black shells

1 copy of independence

[worldly pewter]

man just completely ignored the table posted earlier

[atomic abyss]

It's literally in the table

[dapper willow]

i looked at it and i didnt see the other things so i asked about that

[viscid swift]

I'm seriously thinking we need to just bump Independence down to medium priority at this point

[storm heron]

shells > independence

[dapper willow]

ah yes, that small bit, i was only looking for icons

[worldly pewter]

independence was in my cv bossing fleet for quite some time in opsi

[dapper willow]

if i already got a unicorn, enty and a couple other carriers, is it then worth getting indep?

[viscid swift]

not before at least a pair of shells

[white agate]

how many is the comfortable qol number tho? 5 of both?

[dapper willow]

i got a type 1 ap already, so buy the super heavy?

[dreamy blade]

as a relatively new player i feel ive definitely gotten the same if not more value from independence than the shells

[viscid swift]

yes

[dapper willow]

ight, i'll go for that then.

[storm heron]

nahh, your bbs deal like low damage without shells

[dapper willow]

who do i then give it to, my main ship?

[atomic abyss]

I would personally agree to this

[sharp socket]

3 of both is enough, buy more if you want after getting the rest of the stuff

[atomic abyss]

Your battleship

[dreamy blade]

i mean the table lists the shells above indep for that reason

[atomic abyss]

For qol? 5 yeah
3 for BB opsi fleet
1 for each campaign BB
Maybe a bit more for pvp if there's no overlap

[worldly pewter]

also if someone progresses normally they can buy the shells and independence in the second month

[storm heron]

maybe 2 pair shells > indpendence > last pair of shells

[dapper willow]

apparently my type 1 was just an elite? oh well at least i'll use the homecoming score to get more cores

lucky for me i just need 200 core and i can get that very soon so i don't think i'm that fucked

[dreamy blade]

the gold rarity type 1 is higher priority than the black shell bc a typical combo is the white shell + hsfcr

[dapper willow]

hsfcr?

[storm heron]

how long does it take to have a hpfcr

[dreamy blade]

hpfcr* https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Fire_Control_Radar

[dapper willow]

funny thing: I don't have that

[viscid swift]

yeah no, even in W13 hard mode you're only looking at about 3k core data a month with Independence and a pair of shells costing 2800

[burnt bramble]

Got a few HPFCR already and can craft a few more too.

[viscid swift]

a new player is definitely not earning that much

[dapper willow]

nor do i know where to get that. I actually don't really know where to get gear since tech boxes seem to give the same garbage over and over again

[viscid swift]

it's from priority research missions

[dapper willow]

don't I need ot be level 60 for that?

[atomic abyss]

30 to unlock research academy

[sweet delta]

Can't retro independence if the bps are all going to sandy

[white agate]

maybe they got it wrong because we had a x3 core data campaign recenyly

[worldly pewter]

there isn't a side income for them like the medals in some missions

[viscid swift]

there is but it's only about 300 a month additional

still not a lot of leeway

[dreamy blade]

yeah thats only possible if you happen to get a 3x core data event

[storm heron]

wait what does suchi mean by that, don't they use different bps?

[dreamy blade]

sandy retro will eat all your coins

[worldly pewter]

i might have skipped a black shell or something then

[dapper willow]

i lowkey never really understood the purpose of research academy, what's it for other than maybbe getting blueprints? unless those blueprints are for equipment

[burnt bramble]

I probably have more of the UR Torp Accessories than I need...

[kind slate]

for opsi CV fleet, with amagi (cv) , shinano and avp, are timings of 22.79, 22.97, and 23.05 good enough? (shinano -> avp -> amagi)

[viscid swift]

it's for getting blueprints for gear that can only be obtain from priority research and for getting blueprints to enhance PR ships

[storm heron]

is the avp rld-adjusted?

[dapper willow]

alright, that seems pretty nifty. I'll go to bed though. So good night y'all

[kind slate]

i used this so i think so? https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[storm heron]

looks good

[kind slate]

so the timings are good enough?

[atomic abyss]

For AvP, we typically recommend at most +-0.2s from AvP

So yeah that's fine

[kind slate]

yea. i was worried cuz the second -> last only has 0.1s diff but first -> second has 0.18s diff. i thought a big diff between would be bad or smth

[atomic abyss]

Nah we usually give that 0.2 accounting for that

Unless it's CM ofc

In which you really do want extremely tight timings

[storm heron]

yeah 0.84s from shinano to amagi on third strike sounds okay

[steep idol]

How to know the unknown areas?

[storm heron]

complete the opsi chapters

[sweet delta]

Melt some icebergs to raise the sea level do more opsi story

[steep idol]

Thank you!

Ill keep Plan B in mind too

[sweet delta]

@viscid swift wdym by not buying depot space, you broke f2p and are immediately starting the fleet power grind?

[viscid swift]

Uhhh no
Just illustrating a point.....

[storm heron]

reaction looks like entydoro from afar

[stark quiver]

Cheeky is becoming a fleet power grinder?

[sweet delta]

He is denying it

[stark quiver]

I knew this day would come

[viscid swift]

Unfortunately I'm a bit too far for that

[vestal glen]

Is this worth for musashi?

[viscid swift]

absolutely not

[sweet delta]

open all your tech boxes and you should be able to get top 100 with 700 ships

[vestal glen]

Isnt musashi supposed to be ap tho?

[sweet delta]

read her skills

[storm heron]

cheeky amagi

[viscid swift]

not with that shitty gun

[sweet delta]

a shitty gun that is not even IJN

[burnt bramble]

I typically go with AP on all weapons that have them.

[vestal glen]

Oh wait nvm i forgot it had to be IJN

[steep idol]

Sorry for asking more, but I noticed I don't have any story missions on my map to do. What might that mean?

[storm heron]

can you screenshot your information tab? this one

[frosty swallow]

Which part of the map will Admiral Hipper Meta drop if you don't pull her from cubes?

[storm heron]

B3, D3, SP

[frosty swallow]

Thanks

[steep idol]

Aah okay

[storm heron]

there you go

[steep idol]

Sorry opsi is always confusing and I don't sound enough time in it

[storm heron]

just do the chapter3 -SP, you need to clear it till it shows chapter 5 before the end of this month to unlock the "monthly shop" as most people have

[steep idol]

I'm on it

[violet oracle]

is it a troll move to put high performance air radars on all of my carriers instead of steam catapults for CH13?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[storm heron]

yes it is a troll move, killing enemies quicker there is better than improving defense

[violet oracle]

great, thank you

unrelated question. should I then have my vanguard just survive and theoretically buff a main fleet of carriers?

[storm heron]

there's many other things that matters more than that, if you have problem with w13 maybe your AA is a problem

[hearty fractal]

Which UR would be best to invest into and level next?

[storm heron]

why isn't the z52 locked? is that a copy?

[hearty fractal]

Just forgot to lock her

[kind slate]

is it worth making ryuusei in gear lab

[storm heron]

same question for nj, banguard, guam, shinano

[hearty fractal]

But yeah im not sure which one would be best to invest my bulins into next

[white agate]

can't retire above elite ships with quick retire thankfully

[hearty fractal]

Imo go for shinano

[white agate]

are those your only ur?

[hearty fractal]

Wdym only, its quite plenty if you ask me

[storm heron]

lock your ships, or you will get something like "Why can't I limit break my level 49 UvH, I have a copy"

[white agate]

no alsace?

[hearty fractal]

Idk shes never had a rerun while i started playing AL ever

I managed to get every single UR ever since i started playing i believe

[sweet delta]

technically true

[hearty fractal]

Unless i was a complete beginner and didnt know about it much

[weary gust]

Alsauce ran after Guam, didn't she

[sweet delta]

so did soyuz

[weary gust]

So yeah he must have missed some events.

[kind slate]

is ryuusei worth making in gear lab

[hearty fractal]

Welp see you in 2 years lol, cause that's usually how often URs get reruns

[stark quiver]

Bros forgetting there’s new ur 💀

[weary gust]

if he doesn't know about it existing he can't miss it

[rigid onyx]

What rainbow gear to make after 2 wyverns & 1 nj gun? 98 kai?

[sweet delta]

Z52

[storm heron]

why are you making 1 nj gun

[rigid onyx]

had 1 from nj event

[hearty fractal]

But damn i didnt know alsace and soyuz had its rerun

[rigid onyx]

not rerun original run

[storm heron]

I would spend blanks for a third wyvern tbh

[kind slate]

it wasnt rerun. it was debut

[hearty fractal]

I think i do remember rolling for soyuz but i had no cubes whatsoever

[rigid onyx]

3rd wyvern before 1st spearfish?

[hearty fractal]

Guam and Shimakaze were around my first ever URs so i assume i missed out on them since i was a beginner then still

[white agate]

he lacks a 3rd ur bb too for bossing imo, won't vanguard be good too since he is good with sandy,unzen,shimi,laffey2 and eld?

[viscid swift]

You're also missing Mogador who was free from Alsace's event

[hearty fractal]

Yeah i mustve missed that event entirely then

[vale spindle]

You can save or go for another nj gun

[viscid swift]

I would save at this point

[storm heron]

spearfish use different things, so not comparable

[viscid swift]

Next gear lab update should be in less than a month

[rigid onyx]

i see

[weary gust]

Guam and Shimakaze are years apart in release.

[rigid onyx]

isnt spearfish like a wyvern just with no interception but with rockets

[storm heron]

and yeah ofc saving is always safe

[kind slate]

maybe talking abt shima coming to standard banner? or am i tripping

[white agate]

i think rerun and guam were close?

[rigid onyx]

shimakaze rerun was the last UR before guam no?

[hearty fractal]

By time joined shimakaze is the first UR i got

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

.

[viscid swift]

meh

[hearty fractal]

The debut events dont last long so its possible to miss em if you dont play over a week or longer period

[storm heron]

.

[rigid onyx]

idt the constant repinging for his mistake is very productive

[storm heron]

good thing I'm not turning on the ping

[viscid swift]

and just for the reccord

[kind slate]

i missed musashi rerun as well lol. i very much agree

[viscid swift]

point is, pay better attention to the news feeds for AL so you know about these events ahead of time

[weary gust]

Better lesson is don't not play for over a week if you want to get all the ships.

If you only log in for the events, you won't have any cubes for any of the events, and you'll miss all the ships still.

[rigid onyx]

Is the fighter plane coming in the upcoming yorkii rerun still the best for light

[viscid swift]

yes

[rigid onyx]

So i should just loop it until i get like 5 or smth? Is the drop rate for it decent?

[viscid swift]

I would go for 6 at least if you can

[hearty fractal]

I do play more often now but still not much due to being stuck at chapter 13 and besides getting the event ships i dont do much else

[weary gust]

Drop rate for gear bp from event originally was bugged to be higher than intended. Will be interesting to see if they keep the original rate.

[viscid swift]

and well the drop rate was bugged to be better than normal but we don't know if that will remian true for the rerun

[rigid onyx]

Should I be fine with 100k oil in mail

[white agate]

i think the reasonable number you will get is 3 unless you got lot of oil in stock

[stark quiver]

Wsg gph

[viscid swift]

well how about doing things to be not stuck in chapter 13
like improving your teams, grinding Operation Siren and doing Piroiruty research for better gear
and doing PR research for better ships, etc

[storm heron]

should I be fine with 130k mail oil?

[quasi seal]

Is this bugged or something? It didn’t drop despite farming it for 4 sessions

[viscid swift]

if you're stuck the best thing to do is not to hope and pray new event ships make it easy to clear esepcially for mid game content like W13

[hearty fractal]

Yeah that's what im doing, ive been researching what i can, and for opsi i just grind out the usual gearl lab UR bps

[storm heron]

you need to get energy matric thingy there, if you keep doing that without it spawning then it's just rng

[hearty fractal]

Hence why im asking for my original question which UR to work on next

[viscid swift]

you should be getting a lot more in Operation Siren than just UR design plans

[weary gust]

Many of the opsi completion things can only happen on the first clear of the month and are complete rng if they appear.

You can't farm for that one.

[hearty fractal]

I don't have the time to do more, so i do the bare minimum

[viscid swift]

more to the point, you don't need URs or gear from the gear lab or PR to clear W13 easily at all

[stark quiver]

With dorm, can I infinitely cycle 4 fleets

[weary gust]

w13 should be easy to clear with ships from perma pool and just +10 gear/level 120.

[viscid swift]

so that just says to me your fleets and gear are just shit

[storm heron]

4 fleets of what?

[stark quiver]

4 fleets of 1:1

[hearty fractal]

Fleets are fine, but my gear is shit since i still have no clue on how it works

[storm heron]

I only have 3 ddgs though, what are the other 3?

[viscid swift]

let us be the judge of that
what fleets were you using

[hearty fractal]

Lemme see if i still have the setup

[stark quiver]

What?

[storm heron]

what are you going to use for 1:1 there?

[weary gust]

4 x 1:1 = 8 = 3 + 3

[white agate]

btw is there a ur cv with a cross fleet barrage at least close in damage to alsace and musashi's?

[storm heron]

yeah my mistake on that part, I have 12 slots

[stark quiver]

Talking abt yk2 event farming

[white agate]

hvar is only in capped oil map

[viscid swift]

you might end up burning through most of that even if you 1:1

[storm heron]

1:1 here at least ddg uni right?

[stark quiver]

4 1:1 fleets, if they’re all in dorm can’t I cycle thru each of them infinitely cuz morale regen

[storm heron]

or can you make less than that (maybe ranger 125 ddg, uni fletcher or something)

[viscid swift]

not sure if regen is that fast expecially if you use HELPs

[viscid swift]

considering the fleet needs to do the boss out of ammo

[stark quiver]

I have one 125 ranger,

[hearty fractal]

Heres both boss fleet and mob fleet

[viscid swift]

I shouldn't be suprised but how are you failing

[weary gust]

You should absolutely steamroll w13 with those ships

your gear must be absurdly bad

[hearty fractal]

As i said, fleet is fine, gear is bad

[viscid swift]

like, just screen shot what gear the mob fleet is running to see how bad it is
I'm morbidly curious

[rigid onyx]

Are you using rocket planes or smth

[stark quiver]

Even with shit gear it can’t be that bad

[hearty fractal]

Nah, torpedo planes

[stark quiver]

Hold up I’m getting Deja vu

[viscid swift]

that's not helping but shouldn't break it

[weary gust]

Can you ss your gear on the ships?

[hearty fractal]

Which ones?

[weary gust]

mainfleet mostly

[viscid swift]

^

vanguard gear matters too espcially for AA