gameplay-help

[crystal bloom]

Really? I use Scylla as a vanguard tank in W13, although admittedly I do rotate her with Laffey2. Jervis is better?

[mild crest]

Between London and Dido who should I replace with Scylla in a mob fleet? Im making a HMS pr farm fleet

[barren tapir]

scylla ehp 78%, jervis 114% (front)

laff2 148%

of portlands ehp

[viscid swift]

London gives good tech, Dido does not

[mild crest]

Thank you

[vale spindle]

Pray devs give them for free more often than new ships are added

[gilded carbon]

is it better for Hindenburg to have 2 different CA-guns or 2 of the same modell?

... that is, if i didnt misudnerstood her section in the tierlist

[eternal moth]

It depends what you're fighting

It also depends what you have

[sweet delta]

Sometimes you don't have a choice, like when fighting a light boss we don't have access to two Unzen guns yet

[kindred flicker]

What do i need?

[forest palm]

tap the +

[kindred flicker]

Theres nothing

[mild crest]

copy of ship or bulin

[kindred flicker]

Oooof what bulin yellow? Or blue?

[mild crest]

Purple Bulin since it's Unicorn

[viscid swift]

Same as the ones you used to limit break her

[kindred flicker]

Ion think i have purple

[gilded carbon]

good Question. By tomorrow, i will have Hindenburg and then i will post my CA-guns here.

[mild crest]

Check if you've completed your weeklies

[sweet delta]

Buy a Unicorn copy from the guild shop

[kindred flicker]

Okay

[gilded carbon]

ehm, im not entirely good on the callings yet. Wich one is the Unzen-gun?

[viscid swift]

Better question would be is will Hindenburg be dev 30

[gilded carbon]

not yet :( So she wont be seeing a lot of action. Im aware

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Triple_203mm/55_Main_Gun_Mount

[gilded carbon]

thanks

[viscid swift]

Well then she can't equip 2 CA guns

[gilded carbon]

ohhhh. Well then, that will be a problem i can postpone then ^^' Season 6 coining isnt due until next year, i presume?

or, even until 2026?

[viscid swift]

For catchup? Yes

Hindenburg won't get coining until 2027

[forest palm]

[gilded carbon]

if the game is still a thing by then. Thanks. What is a good strat to get her BPs? Aside from keeping her season locked?

[forest palm]

it's really in how you focus research, taking D research where you can, the more ships within the season are completed the quicker the process becomes

[gilded carbon]

its the only ship i started in it.

[forest palm]

talking about Dev 30, there's a system in Research in when a ship has reached max Development Level, be it Dev 30, or Fate Sim they will be removed from the rotation in Research

[dusky vale]

is the gun you can farm in d3 good or nah

[sweet delta]

just a little better than the purple twin 410 kai

farm for event points, not for the gun

[forest palm]

not worth investing in

[dusky vale]

ok

[elfin hollow]

which team did u guys use for event ex auto mode?

[soft raft]

depends on what you have and how much you want to min-max your score

[kindred flicker]

who is the best pick from standart UR exchange

[elfin hollow]

Dont rly care about the score tbh, just want the reward

[sweet delta]

I don't think 99.99% of players can auto for score

[soft raft]

Shinano > UvH == NJ > Shimakaze
Kron isnt in perma yet (but is the next UR in line to) tho she would probably fall in between NJ and Shimakaze

[kindred flicker]

so sword lady

[sweet delta]

For easy mode, use your typical boss fleet for heavy (and add unicorn if vanguard is dying)
For hard mode, manual dodge

[elfin hollow]

ty

[tacit rose]

is there an up to date ship tier list?

[little tree]

For cn yes en no

[cyan latch]

do you know where i can find the cn one?

[little tree]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[soft raft]

CN Tho they use a different method than ECTL

But ECTL has recently put out a announcment that they are still planning on updating it. In the meantime they have a list of prelims and other tiering changes on their discord

[sweet delta]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[cyan latch]

ty

[strong prawn]

Quick Question.
Which one is more usefull?

[tacit rose]

thanks all

[soft raft]

I think he meant to do this #gameplay-help message bot command instead of the guide one 💀

[sweet delta]

Who is it for?

[strong prawn]

Z23

[sweet delta]

Twin 130

~~ +12 Felix gun~~
The Felix gun is only good (and beaten by rainbow quad 152) for Felix, Otto, and Fritz Rumey

[strong prawn]

pls ignore every other Destroyer runninng Twin 128mm SKs (or B-2LMs)
i have unoptimal equipment prefrences.

[upbeat wagon]

sirius would be worthwhile ship to invest in right?

how about perseus, is she not needed at all if i have an unicorn

[crimson glacier]

imo there is no reason to invest in perseus

[upbeat wagon]

alright

[eternal basalt]

Sad former TEX noises

[strong prawn]

Entirelly reasonable Equipment is it not?

[stark quiver]

i mean.... it works, throw out the autoloader

[upbeat wagon]

what aux should i have on sirius? repair box and camo?

[elfin hollow]

I don't have anything to ask, I just wanna say thanks to people who helped me here today 3 star chapter 15. After a year or more (idk when c15 dropped) I finally cared enough to clear it and your guide really helped

[stark quiver]

rudder + toolbox

[strong prawn]

in exchange for what?
no. more Dakka

[gilded carbon]

How well do the Blackburn Firebrand the the Firecrest while i farm the rainbow-mats for the Wyvern?

[haughty dust]

I only have 1 SR bulin rn. I may be able to get one from the shop, but if I can’t, any thoughts on, which of these characters, I can use in my fleet for working on the XP grind for the following character. I’m gonna show the picture because I don’t feel like trying to remember how to type this out.

I also showed the picture of the PR/DR character. I’m working on right now because I don’t even wanna try to pronounce that second word after admiral.

[rain vine]

marco, volga, giulio

[viscid swift]

Ceasare, Chkalov, and Volga
latter will be good to 125

[burnt hill]

do you get rewards for retrofitting characters like how you get fleet tech when limit breaking?

[viscid swift]

No

[eternal moth]

Retrofit counts for completion %, but that's it

[verbal mulch]

Since the Star Beast takes up most of the screen, the confetti gun is BiS against it right? All of its pellets hit so it’s theoretical damage becomes actual damage dealt

[late flame]

only way to find out is test it and give us laughs

[barren tapir]

but do the pellets actually hit? try it out

[stark quiver]

3 confetti gun ex hard

[barren tapir]

also how much dmg does confetti even do even if it hit?

[verbal mulch]

I tested it out. All the pellets do actually hit and Alsace got 220k damage with it. However, she got 350k with a 457mm. Both guns +10. One run of each, so terrible testing quality

[stark quiver]

but then gain its also shit against heavy

[barren tapir]

clearly we need an ap confetti

[sharp wave]

What planes should I look for to put on avp?

[late flame]

depends on what you are fighting

[sharp wave]

world 12 bosses

[late flame]

then just bring fighters (such as hellcats/flapjacks) and helldivers
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv?ship=august_von_parseval

[sharp wave]

ok

[earnest crag]

Is it worth to Awaken New jersey or no

[slim hinge]

You can't have more than one shrine blessing at the same time right?

[sweet delta]

depends, what ships do you have? That NJ isn't MLB and has god awful gear

[earnest crag]

these are my ships right now, also what gear would I use for my NJ then?

[sweet delta]

you can afford to awaken everyone on your fleet up to 120, not 125 though

[earnest crag]

Oh okay thanks!

[sweet delta]

/equip for the long answer

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[sweet delta]

the short answer is this

[earnest crag]

Wait how did you get the other 3 golden gear? I don't have those 3 in my inventory

[little tree]

Pr4 research for the aa gun and core data shop for shells

[undone plover]

can use this until u get them
and if u dont have the AA gun just put anything there

[tidal owl]

What’s a good team comp for mobs and bosses?

[viscid swift]

Cesare, Unicorn, Ark Royal, Portland, Laffey, Duisburg
just stick with one fleet for now and give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[tidal owl]

Thanks I’ll take a look at it

[haughty dust]

@viscid swift or anyone else then. For that Admiral from PR7. Do I need to switch any part of my fleet formation up?

[viscid swift]

no

[haughty dust]

so positions are fine?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tough shuttle]

Do you guys do the 1k oil commision?

[rain vine]

no

[stark quiver]

1k oil that couldve gone towards 12-4

[rain vine]

or the event

[orchid bison]

How do i grind the extra specimens? i'm dumb af

[rigid onyx]

fully neglected opsi this month, do I have enough AP to complete map, abyssals, etc within next 3 days

[sweet delta]

Best Stages to Farm?
D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > highest stage.
Make sure to do the SP stage once a day!
You can toggle between stages in the bottom left corner of the popup when you select a stage.

[viscid swift]

probably not but still worth doing as much as you can

[stark quiver]

around 1500~ ap

[rigid onyx]

ig ill just spend on oil refills

[jaunty pecan]

is the right one better than regular quad mag?

[late flame]

for manual yes

[jaunty pecan]

for auto no?

[eternal moth]

[stark quiver]

whats the fastest c5 farm fleet

[sharp socket]

preloads and fast loads

or just autosearch and afk

[fluid umbra]

What do I get now? Another one?

[stark quiver]

was this your first?

[glossy granite]

When your auto farming and then your met with ''Expand your dock''

[fluid umbra]

Yeah

[stark quiver]

yup get a 2nd one

[novel solstice]

The solution to this is to expand your dock before you start farming...

[fluid umbra]

First UR Lab gear

[fluid umbra]

Noted, ty

[eternal moth]

Or just use the ships you have to enhance your ships

[fluid umbra]

Use the 50 purple bulins that's never used

[viscid swift]

what

[inland shoal]

[forest palm]

[eternal moth]

[humble tapir]

guys what does retrofit for unicorn do?

[stark quiver]

make her better. better healing

[blissful hamlet]

is z52 better for BB or CV fleet?

[soft raft]

Did you like have a question or are you just trying to shit post?

#al-general if it's the latter

[stark quiver]

id put her in a cv fleet

[ivory pawn]

Gives her a preload, increases her healing, lets her heal the main fleet, gives her more stats.

[humble tapir]

oki tq

[forest palm]

is there even a place for 52 in a CV fleet

[late flame]

+unicorn retrofitted is the best healer in game

[stark quiver]

i mean.... 52,kaza,unzen?

[soft raft]

(Only the Preload heal can heal the main fleet)
But yeah Unicron retrofit is really good, basically best healer in the game

[humble tapir]

really close i just need more gold carrier plates 😭

[blissful hamlet]

as a tank

[ivory pawn]

The non-preloads heal the main fleet too!
Don’t mind that its just the one ship, and its weaker than the preload heal.

[forest palm]

I'd rather take Gaum at that point

[blissful hamlet]

z52 is a good enough tank, I don't have skill issue that I need a bulk tank as tank

[stark quiver]

idk cuz in a bb fleet you prolly have ply tank then 2 other ships depending

[reef turtle]

Can I get z23 back if I accidentally deleted her

[ivory pawn]

She can drop in every campaign map.

[reef turtle]

Oh ok thanks

[ivory pawn]

So eventually you’ll see her again.

[forest palm]

the thing is you're also using Gaum for her AA...this isn't a matter of just picking a tank for the sake of it

[blissful hamlet]

guam only conceal CV for like 20s, in opsi most arstrike happen when the CV already exposed

[forest palm]

again it helps more than you'd think

[tranquil rock]

why cant i access forward base?
i have all story done and all explorables secured

[blissful hamlet]

doesn't seems like it

[forest palm]

finish Ch 5

[tranquil rock]

im done with that

i have every single cutscene EVERYTHING unlocked

[forest palm]

since you can't access the center you're not

[blissful hamlet]

again my ship never die in opsi so I don't think having the bulkiest tank as tank is neccesary in opsi

[ivory pawn]

There’s no red ! on the map anywhere?

[tranquil rock]

??????

[ivory pawn]

Do that.

[forest palm]

that's not even the point though? in fact you're not making much of an argument for 52

[tranquil rock]

ive done like 2 of these practice battles

[ivory pawn]

There’s more, do them all.

[forest palm]

you've gotta do them all, it leads to the center

[sharp socket]

do all of them

[tranquil rock]

oh

[blissful hamlet]

z52 have support, guam have nothing other than tanking

[stark quiver]

yo where can i get this gear skin

[forest palm]

helping with Concealment is largely better

[late flame]

someone forgor guam provides conceal due to high AA

[sharp socket]

its from cruise pass is what i know, as for which one i have no idea

[stark quiver]

unfortunate

[glossy granite]

Do i buy UR vouchers for Z52 with the Specimen? I got like 120 Vouchers and 15K specimen

[blissful hamlet]

like I said in opsi guam only help concealment for the first 20s, most airstrike happen after the CV is exposed

[inland shoal]

Didn't Z52 have pretty decent AA?

[forest palm]

not to the degree that Guam does, but ya

[blissful hamlet]

more reason to ditch guam

[forest palm]

more reason to disregard what you said too

unless you can provide some otherwise proof that 52 is ostensibly better you're basically blowing smoke

[obsidian ivy]

QEM so annoying to fight without a good frontline meta

[late flame]

at least we do not have a meta fight that requires a full meta fleet

[stark quiver]

theres always the souryuu strat

[obsidian ivy]

My soryuu is 120 gonna incur some dmg loss

Maybe I'll try it tho

[inland shoal]

Wasn't there also some cursed Essex strat?

[spring robin]

I am out of my depth after 3 years of retirement, how to get my shitass fleet into something better

[weary gust]

Make a thread and post screenshots of your current fleet and their gears and we'll go from there. Along with your dock. Most of the ships you're using now are much powercrept. Enty, Saratoga are the only two there of note. You'd want to get Unicorn retrofit asap.

[sharp socket]

firstly get unicorn and retro her

[novel solstice]

Start by grinding the event as hard as possible, there are two URs available, both of which would make excellent additions to your fleet once you get enough UR bulins to limit break them.
Also unicorn is a must.

[glossy granite]

Can someone explain why my Helena is taking so much dmg on this event?

All my ships at like 85% hp but then my helena at 50% wtf

[sharp socket]

is it causing your runs to lose

[stark quiver]

she get hit more

[glossy granite]

Well yea..

[stark quiver]

well first off what gear is she running

[glossy granite]

The fact i cant do C1, as a wise man said

[sharp socket]

improve her gear and levels then

[glossy granite]

''Leave the Azur lane before Azur lane leaves you''

Ok yea this is why i should quit, I FORGOT TO PUT GEARS ON HER 😂

[sharp socket]

well theres your issue

[glossy granite]

Game already left me it seems like

[spring robin]

I already have three URs

Marisa's crash course

[sharp socket]

warspite sucks now

[stark quiver]

wheres z52

and 3 URvery little

[weary gust]

Warspite is worse than many SRs. Fritz won't be useful until mlb. Musashi as well needs mlb but that can happen soonish.

[spring robin]

I am... Retired... For 3 years

[stark quiver]

z52 is in shop

[elfin hollow]

sorry Im afraid this is a really dumb question but how do I change my offense fleet fir exercise? I can only change the defensive one

[spring robin]

Which shop

[stark quiver]

click on enemy, then in the sortie screen, it should show ur fleet lineup, and bottom left has a change button

[stark quiver]

event shop

[elfin hollow]

Need elp T-T who do I focus on for bulins?

[elfin hollow]

oh thank you hahaha

[spring robin]

But fr thooo

[viscid swift]

How many bullins do you have and what URs do you have MLB

[soft raft]

Why did you spread your Bullins.....

[elfin hollow]

Those are the ones that aren't mlb.

[weary gust]

Depends on who else you have, but likely vanguard and z52 since they're closest to mlb. Ulrich is outclassed by most UR BBs, Kron is good mostly only for opsi crossfleet, Mogador is good but backline priority.

[elfin hollow]

2 free bulins.

[soft raft]

no but wo do you have MLB
that way we can get a better idea of which of the remaining ones you should prioritize first

[elfin hollow]

I was very idiotic back then

[hollow gust]

Oh just finish z52 and Vanguard lmao

Then leave the rest for Yorky

[elfin hollow]

KK Thanks

[soft raft]

Z52 > Vanguard > Yorktown 2 > Mogador > Kron == UvH

[glossy granite]

Bruh i dont have gear for Helena 😭 , all my gears are too busy for other ships

[hollow gust]

Cause UVH is useless as fuck for you

[storm heron]

:anaginom:

[elfin hollow]

Will do. Just lack knowledge

[stark quiver]

between these 3 cats, which 2 will help me do more damage per strike, im using amagi and shinano

[storm heron]

smells like EX cooking

[hallow mountain]

How good is Fritz because I want to make her one of my main fleet

[viscid swift]

very good if you can max limit break her

[eternal moth]

Yes, the new UR is very good.

[storm heron]

amazing ™️

[weary gust]

absolute garbage if you ask quyet

[jaunty pecan]

is shimanto's AA any good?

[stark quiver]

very

[viscid swift]

yes, very good

[eternal moth]

Wasn't it Quyet who originally said that either NJ or Yorktown were also garbage?

[jaunty pecan]

carry level AA?

[eternal moth]

Or was that Kimo?

[jaunty pecan]

isuzu kai still holds the strongest AA ship right?
even if she's shit on other stats

[storm heron]

iirc yorktown was not very hyped at first, what did gph think about her

[viscid swift]

she is an AA carry so

[weary gust]

I don't recall anyone having any strong opinions on yk2 besides she seemed good.

[jaunty pecan]

i only know shimanto has skill that needs that specific AA gun, but i didnt know her AA to be that powerful

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure Sandy is better, and I think Akashi might be even more

[jaunty pecan]

oh right i forgot repair ship
and sandy got aug mod

[stark quiver]

needs her own main gun pre fs5

[storm heron]

yeah, but not the strongest contribution though since other AA have buffs like 50% from sandy

[hollow gust]

Gameplay help is gph so they all thought she was mid , just like some people are doing right now with Fritz

[stark quiver]

isnt it the usual mid until proven not trend

[jaunty pecan]

[storm heron]

but we have nakhimov "the strongest"

[weary gust]

gph has three tiers for ships.

1. Used in fleet.
2. Bencher.
3. Absolute effing trash.

[eternal moth]

Theoretically, what's the strongest med armor CV comp now, Nakh/YT2/Fritz?

[hollow gust]

No? Cause they hyped the shit out of fdg fate sim

[kind slate]

i need like 150 prints to finish brest. i just started nakhimov. what research should i prioritise?

[eternal moth]

Do you use Brest?

[kind slate]

I haven’t rlly used her yet cuz she’s not dev30.

[jaunty pecan]

in all honesty, all PR/DR ship shouldn't be used until dev30 right
since there's way too many good ships now

[stark quiver]

some can

[storm heron]

maybe soy nakh fritz?

[eternal moth]

Agir, Ancho and Ply can all be used at dev25

[weary gust]

Vanguard ships don't often need their d3 to function, whereas mainfleet usually has a salvo or extra planes locked behind d30

D30 is often just extra bulk and a little bit more firepower for most vanguard PR/DR.

[eternal moth]

Do you have Ply at dev30?

[kind slate]

Ye.

[eternal moth]

I'd probably just switch to PR7 unless you're really close to another ply gun

[kind slate]

Yea I need 6 more for my 2nd one

[eternal moth]

Then stick with PR5 until you get that, then go to PR7

[keen sable]

I would rather have brest soon and nakh in 6 months than nobody for 6 months

[kind slate]

What’s the best research for gear prints

[eager mulch]

where is amagi-chan in this metric

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[kind slate]

Thnx

[keen sable]

Absolute effing trashes all other ships

[little tree]

~~ amagi-chan is N tier~~

[hallow mountain]

Quick question since I'm technically beginner is there a guide for oil management

[rain vine]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[strong tangle]

Anyone has operation siren guide ?

[weary gust]

Clear everything buy everything

[strong tangle]

[strong tangle]

Okay captain

[eternal moth]

That's really all you need to know. You'll learn over time what you don't need to buy, but you still want to clear everything

[weary gust]

Opsi really isn't that complicated, UI just makes it hard to navigate for new players.

[forest palm]

there's not much of a guide for Siren Ops shit is pretty straightforward

[eternal moth]

There are a few things in pins you could look at as well

[strong tangle]

I used to do opsi like a year ago now I totally forgot

[sharp socket]

nagami made an opsi guide but i cant find it

[storm heron]

Clear all explorables -> Clear all special zones (stronghold, abyssals, hidden zones) -> Buy all stuff you need -> Spam secured C5 with rest of the APs (if you have any left)

[strong tangle]

Ok thnx a lot

[hallow mountain]

So you saying I should spend everything

Aight good call I should clear Ch11

[rain vine]

en moment

[eager mulch]

ive never seen a statement more wrong

[weary gust]

Amagi chan is cute, not useful, like most children.

[viscid swift]

Amagi Chan is bestist best ship in the game and anyone who says otherwise is spreading Anti-Amagi Chan propaganda

[cosmic palm]

is there an updated tier lists for ships? I was wondering if Bell or Herring was any good since I need dock slots.

[viscid swift]

no, both are bad

though I would not retire event limited ships personally

[late flame]

and that is why (f2p) gems go to buying dock space. only consider buying skins if you are gonna shell out cash

[cosmic palm]

I know what choices I've made and I have no regrets

[late flame]

famous last words

[viscid swift]

all I can say is you've been warned

[cosmic palm]

Oh I'm not retiring Bell or Herring. I'm just going to retire some ships I've gotten from pulls that aren't limited.
I don't really use that many ships anyway.

[slim hinge]

How do I get more gachapon coins? I've done the in-game and website tasks but no new ones come up.

[forest palm]

you get 2 tasks per day in game, and 2 tasks on the site per day

[slim hinge]

I see. I only started today. So I won't be able to complete it since it's only until the 30th?

[wind hazel]

you won't unfortunately

[rapid grail]

dumb game design

should've been coded into the game, no way i'll play these stupid games

[wind hazel]

they are optional, nobody forcing you to play them

[forest palm]

PvP players smh

[rapid grail]

[viscid swift]

cool, didn't ask and don't care

[hardy citrus]

stupid question but how many blueprints do i need to get nakhimov to level 30

[forest palm]

513

[hardy citrus]

sob

200 more to go ig....

[forest palm]

you can see how many you need in game

[plain saffron]

Then don't play it and stop bitching about it here

[late flame]

i suppose it'd be good to #game-feedback or whack the survey next time it comes around, but yeah

[plain saffron]

It's easier to make it in web especially when it's only for 1 server

[storm heron]

me who completed the gachapon late because missed a day and ended up getting the last prize since all the gems ran out

[whole crypt]

me who don't even have a gachapon because it's an EN thing

[hollow gust]

Don’t worry you didn’t miss much, got 4cubes and a useless dorm coins

[storm heron]

well alpha definitely get something

[hollow gust]

Mf got the 1500 gem didn’t he

[kind slate]

how many points to clear event shop? including second z52 print

[soft raft]

What
Z52 isn't in OpSi shop

[late flame]

z52 isnt opsi shop

[kind slate]

shit my bad got confused i meant event

[soft raft]

It's probably listed on the event's wiki page somewhere
Tho I don't think it would take into consideration the free vouchers

[kind slate]

aight thnx

[viscid swift]

it's an absurd amount

well over 100k

[stark quiver]

Something like 190k~

[storm heron]

yea somebody did the calculations

according to Sam's datamine sheet, 144550, huh not that high it seems (?)

[viscid swift]

considering the amount of time and oil you would need to spend to get that much, not to mention the dubious value of some of the stuff in the ship
it was high

[eager mulch]

me who doesn’t know what a gachapon is nor what the gachapon event in al is

[kind slate]

Gachapon is a game stall where u put in money to get a random prize from a pool. In a traditional sense

[kind slate]

Bruh what. What’s not worth getting?

[viscid swift]

The Dorm Food, Augment rerolling mats, coins, T1 and T2 Cat Boxes, tech boxes, Purple Plates, anymore than 155 Vouchers
gear skins are also entirely personal prefference

[kind slate]

Kk thnx

[elder grove]

did they have a qol update to the 3* for events? I remember them being like beat 30+ ships for a star on events

[late flame]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[bold cove]

Dont worry, i finished as soon as the server reset and still get the last prize

[elder grove]

3* easy and hard mode was a pain to do at the time did they make it easier?

[ivory pawn]

Yes, yes they did. Sadly, reruns won't have the QoL effect until whenever the first event that got it reruns.

[late flame]

yeah QoL only for new events. kinda hilarious that some folks want the old one back

[elder grove]

HECK NO

[late flame]

reading #game-feedback is trippy ngl

[elder grove]

what exactly did they do?

[late flame]

got rid of the requirement to 3* map for event

[ivory pawn]

Only need to clear once for 100%, and you can get all 3 stars in said clear.

[late flame]

and EN being what it is, some folks failed to notice it and cleared easy mode then whine about it

[elder grove]

🥹 they have answered my prayers

[elder grove]

for both easy and hard mode right?

[soft raft]

they did the same 1 clear = 100% for event maps when they get added to War Archive as well

[elder grove]

best qol I found out about since coming back idk if they did anything else since I last played

[stark quiver]

Mail storage

[elder grove]

basically in the last year

[elder grove]

oh that too, second best qol feature now after clearing changes

[viscid swift]

Metas don't take up dock space I guess

[late flame]

3d dorm and raising tb but they are basically optional

[elder grove]

tb?

[viscid swift]

And the Operation Siren shop changes

[stark quiver]

Oh yea also the ex stages, it’s small, but more inclusive to players with less powerful accounts

[elder grove]

haven't done OS yet only did the tutorial years ago when I first played

[formal idol]

Guys, I have a question, been a while since I played the game and I'm starting to play it again... So I noticed that I have a lot of "specialized core" thing, someone know what can I do with this apart from exchange it?

[barren tapir]

UR bulins

[elder grove]

who are they again?

[formal idol]

Then, i sell them?

[elder grove]

specifically the one on the right

[stark quiver]

Alsace, mogador, Brennus, fleuret

[barren tapir]

brennus epee fleuret mogador alsace

[stark quiver]

That would be the UR Alsace, reruns in around one and a half year

[viscid swift]

They're the ships from the Iight of martyum event

[elder grove]

dang

that is a long wait

[stark quiver]

Yup, like most event reruns

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens
'

[viscid swift]

Why

[fathom isle]

How do I unlock the SP page in the event map? Also I am fairly new, should I farm the event for the shop and if yes, what should I buy?

[elder grove]

they added UR to standard right maybe she will be added?

[ivory pawn]

Like a year after the rerun or so.

[stark quiver]

No, you don’t buy bulins until you need them,
Fyi, they’re in high demand

[viscid swift]

Clear d3

[elder grove]

how do I tackle events? do both easy and hard mode or what?

[viscid swift]

Not until after she reruns

[fathom isle]

I don’t know if I am stupid but I don’t have d3, I cleared A 1-3 and B1-3 but there is nothing else for me to see.

[sweet delta]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[ivory pawn]

For this event, ideally clear easy mode for the first two stages of each part, and hard mode only for the 3rd stage.

[elder grove]

will do, but does that mean it's not normally don't like that?

[fathom isle]

Oh I need to clear hardmode then, I am not sure if I am even able to clear that. Still worth it for me to farm the event for something?

[ivory pawn]

It's probably the standard for new events, but rerun events like the next one will be a bit different.

[formal idol]

I mean, I have a lot of specialized cores I can't receive any more... And just buying bulins fill up my stock...

[stark quiver]

There’s no limit to how much spec core you can have tho, it’s literally a bank

[primal silo]

that's the limit for one month
not the total limit

buy your bURins when you need them

[formal idol]

I have currently 70,236 and it says I reached my limit, but it resets every month or how does it work?

[viscid swift]

The limit is in how many you can EARN a month

[barren tapir]

5k per month

[stark quiver]

That’s how much you can earn in a month, not how much you can hold

[sinful escarp]

the limit you can gain per month is 5k and you cant get more than that per month

[barren tapir]

*from typical sources ofc

can get 1k more in medal and occasionally some event like black friday

[sinful escarp]

the amt you earned doesnt disappear when next month comes, it just sits there until you want to use them

[lament ledge]

is sandiego good?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[lament ledge]

ight thnaksks

[viscid swift]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[eager mulch]

[lament ledge]

what about duisberg

[eager mulch]

not as good

[lament ledge]

oo ok'

[formal idol]

I see, thank you guys

[whole crypt]

let's face it plenty of people are not making serious feedback it's just "I do/don't like this and it's my way or the highway"

[eternal moth]

Welcome to game design

[glossy granite]

On the META supply shop, should i buy anything there? i got 88 crystal fragments

[blissful hamlet]

yorktown2 rerun next maint or next next maint?

[stark quiver]

Next next

[storm heron]

it's META material is useless for normal ships, and META ships there are bad performance wise, only give useful tech when raised to 120

[glossy granite]

Oh

How did i forget how to lvl up cat lodge already 💀 , i have gotten some SR ones like Pound and Antenna

[storm heron]

you level up cat lodge very slowly by doing the offerings daily

[lyric echo]

Any chance someone could give me some examples for good operation siren fleets? I have most ships

[storm heron]

for daily use, 1 extremely strong mob fleet and 18 crossfleet is good

[spring bolt]

stolen from CN dalao

[cunning bison]

how do i get protocore?

[fast steppe]

is there a list of all ships with crossfleets

[storm heron]

try the crossfleeets command

[storm heron]

analyzing bp for a d30-ed ship, converting combat data packs

[cunning bison]

tyty

[storm heron]

who is that in the mob fleet?

the one with sweet potato aug

[late flame]

Luna, DoA collab

[eager mulch]

Luna

[vale spindle]

/crossfleet in #bot-spam although its not fully updated yet xd

[fast steppe]

aight

do fritz or z52 have any?

[eager mulch]

both do

[fast steppe]

aight

[cedar harbor]

Is there a refined strategy for Taiho META? If so where could I find it?

[spring bolt]

luna, replaceable with bearn meta

[stiff isle]

Which mission in this event have the Fleet Oil Cap?

[stark quiver]

Looks cursed

[stiff isle]

I see world caps but not events?

[atomic abyss]

Only the D maps have oil cap

[stiff isle]

Ok tyvm

[sweet delta]

how did you know it's a sweet potato

[cunning bison]

best gear for brest? (using ur cb gun on guam alrdy)

[storm heron]

looks lieke sweet potato idk

[stark quiver]

b-50 main gun
mogador gun
UR aa
beaver & rudder

[storm heron]

wait is it not

[late flame]

nonetheless a good guess

[cunning bison]

whats mogador gun and what if i dont hv ur aa?

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_138.6mm_(Mle_1934)
90mm is a stop down of the UR aa

[crude fable]

Between prinz and z52 who should i up first?._.

[warm flax]

Any updated best w15 boss fleet?

[crude fable]

Wait or fritz?

Idk the ur in the banner rn v:

[cunning bison]

kk but um im using mog gun for laffey ii, next option?

[sweet delta]

/w15 still no changes, but you could use fritz or z52 if you wanted to

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[stark quiver]

twin 100 kai
if not
twin 135

[late flame]

depends on what URs you have, how many UR bulins, and what you need or like more

[cedar harbor]

Only d3

[cunning bison]

k ty

[cunning bison]

lastly by rdder u mean the high performance steering gear?

[crude fable]

This all i have and i can afford to up 1 ._.

[late flame]

so you only have musashi? no UR bulins?

[lyric echo]

This is very useful, but my peanut sized brain needs something in English to really understand what to do 😥

[late flame]

Opsi
subs: basically USS fishes for better oxy (though wolf pack works also albeit less oxy*)
mob fleet is basically unicorn + anything
cv fleet : shinano/implacable/amagi cv mainly
bb fleet : soyuz/zwei/alsauce mainly
cross fleet can be whatever rainbow tbh

[crude fable]

I can exchange more but can only afford to full awaken 1

[full hinge]

chat i played AL for like a couple days max at one point a few months ago, is there like notable beginner stuff i'd be missing out on if i just picked back up that acct

or should i start a new one, largely ambivalent either way just having it on a different email is vaguely sadge

playing thru tutorial again also seems smol

[late flame]

there's no point to reroll though

[full hinge]

errrr im not really rerolling for anything just beginner shiz that i mightve missed reward wise (game downloading now)

unless that wasn't @ me in which case i apologize

[late flame]

you can either MLB Fritz or wait (yorktown2 re-run event is next)

[late flame]

just continue with what you left off unless you spent all gems on skins and is f2p

[crude fable]

What's MLB?._.

[full hinge]

am f2p (or at least plan to be f2p or maybe a minnow) but i definitely didnt burn gems on skins

[late flame]

max limit break, aka full stars

[full hinge]

so sure ty

[crude fable]

Oh okai tysm

[storm heron]

wait... for skins, is it against the tos to make multiple different servers just to play and get the f2p gems and buy free skins with that gems? So if I have 6 accounts with low dock space but I have multiple skins

[vale spindle]

its not against tos to have multiple accounts

[storm heron]

new strat for f2p skin enjoyer

[vale spindle]

but at that point you can just l2d skin viewer like the one on nagami's site

[storm heron]

I don't recall the viewer has sound though right?

[stark quiver]

watch nagami paywall the site

[ancient kettle]

Idk if this was asked before, but how good is Z52 in comparison to Laffey 2, or is Laffey 2 still better than Z52 by a decent margin?

[storm heron]

I think z52 better than lafii in terms of surface damage, but loses out on eHP

[ancient kettle]

Alrighty, thanks!

[sweet delta]

at that point just get the full package from nagami

[sweet delta]

Laffii has better AA, better tankiness in general, and the ability to use Manjuu.
Z52 has better DPS and fleet buff, and she doesn't require a +13 rainbow gun to reach max potential.

[compact helm]

is hipper meta anywhere in t0 or ex?

[sweet delta]

if you mean by ECTL tiers then not even close

[compact helm]

thanks!

[brave trail]

im looking at the ECGC gear lab priority but in what order should i go for? like battleship guns, fighters, ect

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message here is a priority order by the different materials

[brave trail]

thanks, ill have a look

[cunning bison]

btw is normal twin 100 fine?

[quiet pawn]

agir vs guam?

[sharp socket]

agir for BBs guam for CV, if campaign then guam cause AA

[quiet pawn]

what about brest and kronshtadt?

[cunning bison]

what aa gun do i use for brest? (dont hv ur aa)

[stark quiver]

Yes
And twin 90mm AA gun

[cunning bison]

whats 90mm btw

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_90mm_AA_(Model_1939_Prototype)

[cunning bison]

is quad 30mm good?

[stark quiver]

It’s ok
Usable

[cunning bison]

what abt 55mm?

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

bad btw, just use roomba ™️

[agile harness]

how much ruppy (prinz ruppretch) improves with FS

[tender lotus]

What's the maximum number on ops stats?

[wind hazel]

999

[cunning bison]

gear for alsace?

[storm heron]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=alsace, use AP gun for heavy armored boss, and use HE gun for light armored boss

[wind hazel]

max effective is lower, 20x/20x/15x or something i dont remember the exact number

[storm heron]

203/203/156 yeah

[tender lotus]

Did they lower the 3rd stat?

[wind hazel]

no

[tender lotus]

Iirc it's 18x

[fervent night]

Which emulator do you guys recommend for AL I used Bluestacks but it became extremely heavy for my pc

[storm heron]

it has always been like that, since tactics cant be reduced below 100

[wind hazel]

can try mumu or ldplayer

[stark quiver]

I use mumu

[storm heron]

mumu

[tender lotus]

I see thx then both of you

[fluid umbra]

I have a slow now

Or wait

Was that the air buff one

There's so many that I need I can't remember

[sweet delta]

CV slow is implacable, nakhimov, august, or Eldridge

[hallow mountain]

Who should I prioritize?
This is my entire fleet

[wind hazel]

[fluid umbra]

Yeah my bad, kazagumo is the air buff one

[storm heron]

[hallow mountain]

yeah I know don't you dare magnifying glass me

[sweet delta]

Aquila was the first ship I saw

[fluid umbra]

So should i run this now?
Ark Royal - Shinano - Amagi (CV) / Z52 - Kazugumo - Sirius

So no helena right for 3cv?

[sweet delta]

For outside of campaign

Helena is usable but then you need high CV reload tech or faster planes or beacons

[hallow mountain]

Which UR should I prioritize
Ulrich, Fritz, or 52

I'm about to get 1 UR bulin

[fluid umbra]

I think Z52 would be the easiest to mlb first

[wind hazel]

if you can't mlb any of them, don't get the UR bulin

and what else do you have besides those 3?

[sweet delta]

They have this

[wind hazel]

🔎 nahhhhh

can't tell

[fast steppe]

at a point where i'm overloaded with purp bulins and nowhere to use them, should i start developing ships for memento gems/items?

[little tree]

~~ got anymore pixels ~~

[wind hazel]

sure. some elite can retro into stronger ships too

like independence, nelson, saratoga etc. see if you missed any of them

[hallow mountain]

a good unit

[wind hazel]

answer is the same anyway, if 1 UR bulin is all you can muster up, don't get it, wait until yorktownII rerun and ask again

[humble tapir]

is the bl 6 mk xxv prototype or the triple 203 mle 1934 better to craft?

[whole crypt]

neither

[humble tapir]

alr

[stark quiver]

For sub cat, is max iron blood talent better than torp ace

[whole crypt]

ironblood is 14 TRP if you use wolfpack
torp ace is 20 TRP regardless of sub

[last zenith]

Which of these planes works best for fritz rumey

[whole crypt]

gold hellcat best in that lot
seafang and reppuu sidegrades
the rest are 🚮

[last zenith]

Oh okay

[simple cairn]

is laffey II better than shimakaze

[last zenith]

Thanks for advice

[whole crypt]

generally yes but Laffey II isn't going maim a random ship by face torping

[last zenith]

How about her third gear slot, should i equip aa or guns

[atomic abyss]

Laffey2 is generally more useful
But she's not a DPS/nuker the same way Shimakaze is
She definitely would be higher priority to MLB
Tho Z52 and Laffey2 are about as useful as each other

[atomic abyss]

AA guns
Ideally a Twin 40mm STAAG bofor, same as the one you'd give BBs

[whole crypt]

seeing your plane collection I'd say it doesn't really matter what you put in slot 3, though you'd likely benefit most from giving her a 45FP CL gun for now

[thorn tartan]

arbiter boss armor this month?

[storm heron]

hebi armor

[thorn tartan]

that means heavy right?

[storm heron]

when is the last day I can do event D3? is it 2 January?

[crimson glacier]

what does the game say

[fast steppe]

is it still best to go for the 10% gold print level for supply line disruption to maximise mark viii drops

[hollow gust]

No?

[fast steppe]

this one i mean

wait i just realised i already have enough mark 8s to make 6 bidders

do i still need to do this or just go for the highest stage

[storm heron]

nah just do the highest stage

[atomic abyss]

No, pretty similar actually

NJ will always have the advantage for bossing tho

[atomic abyss]

Go highest

[storm heron]

can you sync fdg with helena?

[atomic abyss]

Why not?

[storm heron]

ohh I thought the rld gonna mess it up

[atomic abyss]

It can mess up the order with Vanny admittedly

But not with Helena

[brittle path]

Should I mlb shinano before rumey? I want to have Shinano with Amagi cv rn

[atomic abyss]

Yes imo

[sweet delta]

We have free Shimakaze in PR1

[hollow gust]

Honestly better then shima

[lofty zodiac]

Do my math wrong or i miss something free reward?
I have to buy 170 UR voucher to get second copy or Z52?

[hollow gust]

Don't you get 350?

[violet oracle]

I'm making a meme fleet for CH13 of only USN ships, I've got Yktn II, Essex, and Ticonderoga for boss fleet, I'm struggling to evaluate the best vanguard though, tied between Laffey II, Hammann II, Baltimore, and Northampton II. thoughts?

[sweet delta]

Hammii gets left out if they're all mlb

[brittle path]

When will Yorktown 2 rerun release? I only have 20 cubes rn 🫠

[atomic abyss]

9th

[tropic tusk]

next week

[brittle path]

I’m cooked

[storm heron]

for the second copy, minimum you have to convert is 155. If you need to buy more that measn you missed some rewarsd

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt waste cubes on her with that amount

[tropic tusk]

time to swipe

[brittle path]

I wanted the 2nd rumey so bad that I spent my cubes till I get the pity

[tropic tusk]

support the game

[brittle path]

Now I only have 20 cubes left

[plain saffron]

that's why a copy never worth it

[tropic tusk]

never chase if u cant afford it

unless ur like 10 till pity then u can think about it

[lofty zodiac]

Thx for the confirmation 😉

[storm heron]

well you chose a UR bulin over (some potential of getting) ykII

[plain saffron]

just pull and hope you get her

[brittle path]

I got her in the 1st ten pulls and I still wanted to pull more, ts is like gamble

[tropic tusk]

if u had her in first 10 then u should had stop

we got UR bullions to help u mlb

[brittle path]

I think my luck goes down if I save too many cubes, I pulled 3 musashi when I only got 160 cubes so optimism is still in me

[storm heron]

damn, you just haven't felt despair

[brittle path]

Same as Amagi Cv

[hollow gust]

But the flex tho

[storm heron]

what can I do with an extra z52, I forgot that second copy is still there on the shop

[hollow gust]

Keep it

[storm heron]

I just wasted a UR bulin

[crimson glacier]

cool

[tawny ermine]

any of those 2 good? my guess is no

[crimson glacier]

no

[tawny ermine]

thought so

[crimson glacier]

and stop doing requisition

[tawny ermine]

i just did 10 to see what i got

[storm heron]

you can raise them though, mass for bb acc tech, and bismarck for bb fp tech

[ancient kettle]

Thanks!

[storm heron]

shuld I just convert the voucher to gold?

[hollow gust]

Just get a extra one

[storm heron]

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt matter anyway

[hollow gust]

Even if you fodder it later, medals are more valuable then shitty gold

[crimson glacier]

wtf shit talking golf

[storm heron]

okay okay

[tropic tusk]

its call new account luck

ur just spending all ur new account luck

[crimson glacier]

luck doesnt exist

[brittle path]

I started playing last year

[tropic tusk]

then its call returning player luck xD

[tropic tusk]

u just never experience it so u call it doesnt exist

[crimson glacier]

things just happen

[pseudo saffron]

Does the 2x oil things give double the xp?

[tropic tusk]

yes double everything

[pseudo saffron]

Oh shit nice

[solar canopy]

Which one is better?

[rain vine]

wyvern

[hollow gust]

They use different mats

So doesn't reallly matter , although I have been preferring my spearfish

[solar canopy]

So what is Wyvern good for and what is Spearfish good for?

[crimson glacier]

wyvern is good at everything that isnt single target

[rose cosmos]

Lala is supposed to be very good right?

[kind slate]

whats the recommended timings for cv fleet in opsi? im using avp (fs5). like how tight do the timings have to be, order of launch, etc?

[sharp echo]

uhhhhhhhh why suddenly there is golden darkness there?

[crimson glacier]

why not

[obtuse knoll]

hey, what's the plane for nakhimov on 15-4 boss fleet if paired with soyuz?

[sharp echo]

my fleet dying

[maiden crown]

How do I unlock fate sim for pr ships? Just got agir to dev 30

[crisp wraith]

Agir doesn't have fate sim so...

[tropic tusk]

some have fate some dont

[crisp wraith]

But normally you'll see a fingerprint button for does that do have fate sim

[maiden crown]

Oh Ic mb still new to the pr ship stuff

[tropic tusk]

the sakura cv in pr4 has fate

[crisp wraith]

Every PR1-4 has Fate sim except Agir

Then after that every non rainbow Pr5 and 6

[maiden crown]

Oh Ic tyty I was looking at the bp exchange and sad I deeded more so was confused

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#PR4-7

[ashen crow]

At which point in the game is it good to use UR ships in your fleet?

[tropic tusk]

they useable when u mlb them( most of the time)

[ashen crow]

That’s gonna take a long time?

[tropic tusk]

well all u need is UR bulins

[ashen crow]

I’m new to this game so I don’t really have any

[tropic tusk]

like 4 to mlb

[ashen crow]

At which point do you get ur bulins?

[tropic tusk]

each battle pass will give 1 on the free side, each UR event will give u 1 , u can earn points later on and u can buy them in shop

[atomic abyss]

You basically get more the more you play

Until you get enough to MLB them
It's really not worth using them

Almost all of them will just be worse than purples or even blues without mlb

[ashen crow]

Okay, the best way to get ur bulins is the proto shop?

[atomic abyss]

That's the only way you can "grind" for them

[kind slate]

can someone help me make opsi fleets for each of the boss things?

[atomic abyss]

UR events give 1 for after reaching 30k event currency

(15k for reruns)

And you get another for lv100 cruise pass

[cunning bison]

can anyone guide me on opsiren? am looking to get the ur triple 406s (dm me so its less awkward)

[sharp socket]

make thread and send dock so we can all get in on it

[cunning bison]

u mean thread here?

[sharp socket]

yes

[cunning bison]

kk

[kind slate]

pls help me with opsi fleet-making

[clever lance]

Who should I work on from PR3 with this box? Considering drake vs Cheshire

[sharp socket]

why pr3 specifically

[tropic tusk]

u didnt even finish pr4 yet

[clever lance]

I want to unlock one PR3 so that I can unlock the pr3 newcomer quests

So that I can unlock pr4 and 5

[tropic tusk]

which ever u want is fine pr3 not really seen people use them at all

[clever lance]

Or should I just ignore that line of quests completely?

[tropic tusk]

nono just do that theres something at the back i forgot wht is it tho

[elfin thunder]

personally id just do Cheshire, can be useful, dont remember the last time I used Drake, and will cost more coins

[sharp socket]

cheshire then

[atomic abyss]

Cheshire without question

[clever lance]

thanks everybody

Or uh… if there’s a better option instead of Cheshire please chime in. I was only looking at fleet building guide and saw those two names pop up

[tropic tusk]

not really

[late flame]

i'd still vote chesh

[primal silo]

cat maid cute
why not

[glossy granite]

For the ''Substellar crespuscule'' does it count in total or the amount you have rn?

[silk sphinx]

Always total

[glossy granite]

Ah tyty

[late flame]

i am totally unbiased trust

[primal silo]

[glossy granite]

I still dont know if i should spend them for UR vouchers to get Z52 or Admiral hipper first 😭

[late flame]

z52 first

[silk sphinx]

Mainz is pretty solid but no real point, Cheshire at least has aa

And gold bbs are kind of worthless at this point…

[glossy granite]

I got 120 UR vouchers and 19K specimen so do i exchange them for 80 UR vouchers?

[late flame]

while mainz is nice she is not really a standout among the sea of CLs outside of waifu

[silk sphinx]

You should be able to get z52 without buying vouchers though

Like you get more than enough just from missions and farming for one copy

[left cedar]

kinda, yes, but casual players not always are able to actually play to get them through without buy UR Vouchers ...

[late flame]

for the first copy yeah shouldnt need to exch specimen for voucher unless not enough playtime and/or not able to consistently d3

[glossy granite]

Not unless i use ships from the event, i did pull Fritz but she not maxed at all 😅

[silk sphinx]

You can just do one run with them in a boss fleet stacked with other strong characters

[glossy granite]

Yea my account borderline discard lvl, i got 3 UR's but not a single bullin to limit break them

[primal silo]

have you played the minigame?

[silk sphinx]

No need to build them at all or limit break them

Although I personally do for the profile pic frame and cause the tech this time is pretty great

[primal silo]

It's fine.
eventually you can mlb all
for now do the priority ones

[glossy granite]

Bro why do buttons not work at all 😭

[glossy granite]

I got them form that minigame

[primal silo]

okay, good

[glossy granite]

To get more it asks me to clear SP which will never happen

And to defeat bosses using the ships from event

[runic bluff]

is SY-A1 the better ddg missile?

im still confused about the lock vs guided missile

[whole crypt]

there's a bunch of daily missions which should have been easy to clear
if you can fight B3 at all you can just bring the event ships and they don't need to survive the boss fight, just need to be in the fleet used for boss

[whole crypt]

same thing

[glossy granite]

Ye i could, i got Z11 and Fritz rumey from the event

But even then i will be at 145

[whole crypt]

it's a lot easier if you can beat SP, but even without SP it should be fairly easy to get enough vouchers for 1 copy of 52

grind more event stages for points to buy vouchers then

[glossy granite]

Im struggling to beat C1 let alone SP 💀

Can barely beat it 100% of the time

[atomic abyss]

With more levels you will

[whole crypt]

my sub account has 95 vouchers now after buying the first copy, without getting any of the shop vouchers

[atomic abyss]

Just keep on grindin

[whole crypt]

there's quite a lot you can pick up without doing SP

[late flame]

+you can decide after event has ended to see how many to exchange. there isnt exactly any point to rushing it

[atomic abyss]

Yeptune

[glossy granite]

Man im just lvl 49, soon i will finally have lecture hall lmao

[clever lance]

How good of a healer is Perseus compared to zuihou

[whole crypt]

they're both great healers but for different reasons
for difficult content zuihou will do better
for long repeated grinds but short individual fights like OS mobbing Perseus will do better

or just use Unicorn which will generally cover you for both

[clever lance]

Well I need multiple fleets for os

[whole crypt]

but only 1 of them needs a healer

[clever lance]

Should boss fleets avoid healers so they can just yolo dmg

[cunning bison]

um can anyone help me w opsi guide? (not fleetbuilding alrdy got help, just guide me and fill me on the details)

[tropic tusk]

boss fleet just go full dps no need to heal

[tough shuttle]

Guys am I just doing something wrong? I started playing like 8 days ago and ever since day 3 I can only afford to run like 8 stages a day and that gives me almost no commander xp. I have been stuck on W6 for 3 days just cuz my commander level is too low

[plain saffron]

prob a bug

[sinful escarp]

there is an arbiter that swaps healing to damage your fleet instead, so just go full dps on 3 fleets and mob with a healer on the other (for afk farming)

[nocturne glade]

finally finished off Unicorn retro, is helena or portland a better next option

[sinful escarp]

helena imo

[nocturne glade]

great, ty!

[next plover]

hi i have now drop meta hipper now 5x times (1x ship 4x crystal) if i drop again what are make ingame now?

[strange sphinx]

yat sen + An shan + another CN... I just need someone who I can use for harbin farming

[sinful escarp]

tai yuan?

or chang chun, yeah chang chun because her retro item is in shop

[stiff bison]

what type of gears should i go above +11?

[late flame]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[late flame]

extra fragments goes to the META shop

[polar lion]

What is the other Fast load gun aside from blue 76mm again?

[late flame]

single 113mm

[sharp socket]

yes thats normal

if you want to skip the early level locked phase you can buy the lv70 commander pack for like 15 usd i believe

[late flame]

+spend within your means

[strange sphinx]

but if you don't want to spend money, Patience is the key

[glossy granite]

At what lvl do you get that issue?

[worldly pewter]

if u mean the commander gate as long as there is an active event it shouldn't be felt that much
but if someone started at the end of an event and will have to go through a deadge week then it might be felt around lvl 55

[south sequoia]

oh yeah was there ever a final answer for 113 vs 100kai for z52

[upbeat wagon]

I felt it around the same too

But event solves the problem honestly im at commander level 73 or smth

50k points was an ideal amount to farm in event right?

[storm heron]

gold plates are super rare

55k is good

[polar lion]

Does Z52 has better dps than Ply?

[shell willow]

iirc she beats ply on heavy but loses on light, around same on med

[kind slate]

for opsi CV fleet, with amagi (cv) , shinano and avp, are timings of 22.79, 22.97, and 23.05 good enough? (shinano -> avp -> amagi)

[polar lion]

Das impressive. Wish her dmg taken debuff utility is higher

[coral swan]

anyone got a decent, up-to-date resource on meta fleets? including details like gear and stuff?

[polar lion]

Watarase or Brest has better dps and survivability?

[whole crypt]

the answer is since there's no decisive answer between the two guns take the cheaper one

[quartz jungle]

Brest better survivability, Watarase better damage when paired with an IJN ship

[final heart]

should I replace the free DD ship at the start with Z52?

[whole crypt]

if you can MLB your Z52 sure, also probably wait till you're done with the rookie missions first if you haven't

[final heart]

I can't, unfortunately

I don't think I can even farm the 2nd copy

[ebon verge]

is there a way to prevent your fleet stupidly going into the fog in stronghold?

[vale spindle]

no

however if you manually manuever them out of the fog, they shouldn't go back inside since theres nothing left

[nocturne glade]

200 more vouchers until second copy, do I have enough time to get them on D3? Can't beat SP yet

[polar lion]

Y the cheaper one?

[flat ruin]

When will the Shinano skin come back after this

[whole crypt]

the question is comparing performance between the single 113 which is gold in lab and 100 kai which is rainbow in lab, if there's no (significant) improvement with the rainbow gun it's not worth the materials

for Z52 specifically

[polar lion]

Owh her dps on the 2 guns are the same?

[whole crypt]

give it a year, maybe next year's black friday at least

[dawn ledge]

who's the best super rare in iron blood

[whole crypt]

she gets a lot from her barrage so supposedly 100kai doesn't outperform the 113, or at least not significantly

[polar lion]

Oo

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

best for what?

[south sequoia]

Their performance aint exactly that far apart to justify the more expensive costs of 100kai I assume

[flat ruin]

They would probably give free gems before the next black friday right

[south sequoia]

No?

[whole crypt]

it's possible not sure how short you are with points for that

[wind hazel]

you need to do 141 more runs of D3, and that's including 3 more days of 10 vouchers daily

[south sequoia]

We've never gotten free gems before a black friday

[ebon verge]

uh... 2nd time...

[south sequoia]

We only get them from our servers anniversary and any mandatory updates

[left cedar]

yeah, for me its quite common i get 2 fogs in same Stronhold
just get used to

[whole crypt]

CNY and anniv
but then you're probably going to spend those gems before the skin comes back anyway

[vale spindle]

third times the charm

[south sequoia]

Oh right yeah and cny

[whole crypt]

a stronghold can have more than 1 fog spot with shit in them to clear

[dawn ledge]

the best to attack infront, i feel like momo and lala are bad honestly

[polar lion]

Which Frontline did u guys use for Opsi mob? Hab Ibuki and Unzen but still can't decide on the 3rd

[flat ruin]

When is the anniv anyways

[final heart]

if I can't farm for Z52's 2nd copy, what else should I buy in the shop?

[whole crypt]

so you want a good SR KMS vanguard? or do you want us to pick one out of what you have

[wind hazel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOqubLZEdAajod29UANYNJyCslpDKMG0AbIZ9MEI1nI/edit?gid=1510933227#gid=1510933227

[dawn ledge]

yea i want a good sr, kms and vanguard since i dont have a lot of ur at the moment

[vale spindle]

can you tell ender that shop priority is almost always live on the datamine before the event is out on EN so he should update it in #event-faq thanks

[south sequoia]

for the EN server its on august

for JP its september for CN its may

we don't get anniversary rewards of other servers but we get the events that come with it

[flat ruin]

alright thanks

[runic bluff]

also is backline ddg more like just rather use an actual bb?

[whole crypt]

but SR != good
is there some reason you want KMS specifically

[south sequoia]

yes

you would rather use proper backliners over them

the only use backline mode ddg has is cheap oil farming

[dawn ledge]

momo and lala are not dealing a lot of damage so i want to change

[cunning bison]

how long does it usually take for devs to do a fate sim (specifically pr5)

[final heart]

would it still count as complete if I put these ships in the 2nd fleet but don't use them?

[runic bluff]

around a year or so

[whole crypt]

sounds more like a gear/level/LB problem and changing to a random KMS SR won't fix it

[south sequoia]

Are you asking about the DRs in pr5?

[cunning bison]

ye

[south sequoia]

We don't know

Agir hasn't even gotten her own fate simulation

[runic bluff]

devs just annouced it suddenly iirc

[whole crypt]

the wording is bad, the ship(s) just need to be in the boss fleet, they don't even need to be alive for the fight

[cunning bison]

yikes

[cunning bison]

? wym

[south sequoia]

Not like they need it

[runic bluff]

like in anni stream or something

[cunning bison]

thats tru

[whole crypt]

there's no regular FS schedule for DRs

[final heart]

thanks a lot

[south sequoia]

The DRs for pr4 - 7 are so strong the devs can just take their sweet time with their fate simulation

[storm heron]

[left cedar]

FC/Kursk/Hindy
THICC CAs, that is the reason

and yeah, 0 BIAS for KMS and SN

[storm heron]

I just use CB main tanking those 2 for extra safety

[warped prism]

What's the best comp to one-shot Taiho meta?

[cunning bison]

whats a shelling bb?

[storm heron]

bb with most damage coming from shelling

[cunning bison]

ic what r the good ones?

[storm heron]

almost all BBs are shelling BBs

[whole crypt]

not really relevant since the addition of URs and newer SRs, there's basically no good BB that's specifically better for shelling

[cunning bison]

oh then whos not a shelling bb

[storm heron]

tbh shelling is just damage distribution, it is not as binary as before

previously there are bb with barrage and bb without (shelling bb), nowadays all newer bbs just have barrages with them

[kind slate]

is it worth doing war archives for gear? i need 3 more prints

[storm heron]

nope not worth

[kind slate]

not even for 3 prints? is the droprate that bad?

[novel solstice]

Probably not, none of the gear in the war archives is amazing enough to spend time on.

Do war archives to run up your completion % or chase down specific wifus that you can only find there.

[kind slate]

i want another ryusei lol

[storm heron]

getting gear bps through war archive is just as random as getting them through other means like research, the only difference is you're spending oil

[wind hazel]

do research academy and you will get enough ryusei

[storm heron]

is ryuusei not gettable from the golden ijn box?

[kind slate]

yea but i havent had any luck yet

[wind hazel]

no, you get suisei instead

[kind slate]

oh what. i thought u get it frick

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

if you're doing pr4 or pr7 you might get ryuusei's friend

[wind hazel]

wot

[atomic abyss]

Saiun Kai

[storm heron]

eh? saiun and vit right

[atomic abyss]

Saiun for 4, vit mode change for 7

[wind hazel]

... but we're talking about ryusei aren't we

[atomic abyss]

Ryuusei can be gear labbed from tenzan kai

Tenzan kai is from... Tenzan

[storm heron]

ohh I was going to recommend alternative

[atomic abyss]

Just use tenzan kek

In the interim

Also the game gives you enough mats to craft a D-4 from opsi story anyways

[storm heron]

d-4?

[wind hazel]

junker

[atomic abyss]

Ju-87 D-4 is the IB conv TB

Not to be confused with the Ju-87c which is an IB DB

[novel solstice]

D-4 is a german plane that is similar to ryuusei (converging torps), but has slightly different timing. So it's sometimes handy to have it as an alternative to fiddle with exact launch times, or for the Ironblood ships that want an Ironblood plane.

[storm heron]

yea they can try other timing alternatives without ryuusei

[sharp socket]

I wouldn't have known this had you not said it, i always call it ju87

[elfin hollow]

Is there some fleet/gear recc for taihou meta to one shot her?

[storm heron]

yeah there is

implac amagi shinano 0 rld
mogador kazagumo unzen

[sharp socket]

did cheeky say the rest of his tech for that

[storm heron]

tech notes sync unzen to mogador's stab, I forgot what you need

[elfin hollow]

alright I'll try that ty

[sharp socket]

did he have like 50 avi or whatever of tech

[storm heron]

idk about that, but makes sense to include it

[blissful hamlet]

Fritz Rumey best vs light or medium or heavy?

[storm heron]

but after doing all of this and:

• syncing unzen's torp to mogador (it is mentioned here try to search up)
• trying to get concealment on last airstrike

you still couldn't find aux item combination to one shot magato, then forget using this comp, your tech is not enough. Try other comps

[blissful hamlet]

Is z52 just plainly better than mogador?

[forest palm]

they function differently so it's not a 1:1 type thing

[blissful hamlet]

What each of them functions?

[storm heron]

mogador can make sure unzen torp all land

and pretty sure mogador have different buff than z52, the 8% torp might be better than 5% fleetwide

[blissful hamlet]

what

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but mogador only buff torps damage while z52 buff all damage

[storm heron]

you can sync unzen through ca rld so she launch the quint mags when mogador brings her forward

[blissful hamlet]

her only role is to make unzen better

also is it possible to sync CV with mogador in opsi?

[atomic abyss]

For 1 strike only

[storm heron]

only possible once, mogador stabs every 12s but torp lands every x + 4s where x is cv cooldown

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like z52 is plainly better than mogador then

[storm heron]

[blissful hamlet]

12s sync is pretty from the dev

[atomic abyss]

Mog has better dmg

Also the whole bit with Unzen mentioned above

... That's about it

[blissful hamlet]

but someone said z52 outdamage plymouth

[atomic abyss]

And mog always out damaged ply

[storm heron]

what did the end game guide said again about their heavy damage comparison

[blissful hamlet]

ehh using mog just to make a single ship better sounds like a waste of slots

[storm heron]

ikr

[whole crypt]

Ryuusei is not in box

[storm heron]

but it somehow worked for them

[tranquil rock]

mog
mog (brainrot)

[kind slate]

now i know lol. all those boxes wasted just cuz i thought it would drop :weep:

[atomic abyss]

Just use the tenzans you got instead

[blissful hamlet]

I just realized I don't even use unzen for my opsi boss

[atomic abyss]

Well the fact is, it has worked

[kind slate]

its fine. almost there. i just got 2 from research.

[whole crypt]

mog does a lot of damage herself, what works works

[atomic abyss]

I would just outright say z52 is just a better investment

[blissful hamlet]

vanguard damage difference are negligible for bossing

[whole crypt]

and even if you don't sync CVs with Mogador her torp damage debuff works