gameplay-help

[glossy granite]

I know i have failed the IQ test numerous times on this game

[barren tapir]

the closest unintentional "ruin" i can think of is wasting f2p gems on bad stuff and also scrapping hedgehog, both of which can be recoverable/managed, albeit more painful

[glossy granite]

Instead of limit breaking my ships i decide to build ships

[storm heron]

time to try ranger in EX

[barren tapir]

the real ruin is ever getting a ship to disappointed/upset affinity

sure it wont break your account but it'll break something else

[atomic abyss]

It's easy to do dumb things

[storm heron]

scrapping eagle union damage control is also bad

[atomic abyss]

It's very hard to do dumb things to the point of shitting your account

[glossy granite]

Well i could have had my whole fleet maxed stars if i didnt gamble to build ships 😂

who to max out between Hood and Howe both are 5/6 thats the question

You said something about Vittorio+Hood

[whole crypt]

that's still just a time issue to recover dupes and bulins

keeping in mind you start with none of that anyway with a new account, and no ships with no levels

[atomic abyss]

You would have used Vittorio for a second fleet
Considering neither Howe nor Hood were mlb
And Howe wants British

[glossy granite]

All 3 are royal navy

[atomic abyss]

Vittorio isn't

She's Italian

[glossy granite]

Oh i mixed up

So far it dosent seem like there is a clear choice

[elfin hollow]

Guys which matters more: DMG or FR?

[atomic abyss]

Both are important
The right gun is absurdly shit
The left is the best poverty CL gun for CLs

[barren tapir]

use the left one

[elfin hollow]

okay thanks thanks!

Would the right gun serve well as a BB's secondary?

[atomic abyss]

The gold one would

[tough shuttle]

Guys do I go for 100% and 3* or just 3* on hard mode stages? Also do I farm 6-x, event B3 or Divergent Chessboard B4 when I am too low commander level to go W7 but have the important stuff from event purchased?

[atomic abyss]

You will 100% it just by clearing the boss enough times

You should prioritise 3*-ing story hard mode as those give you 2x gold retrofit BP

You should always farm event when the event is up

[hollow quartz]

Sorry but I am a bit lost. These are my current ships + Suzutsuki.
What ships should I be working on? And what fleet should I make?

[atomic abyss]

First question, how many gold bulins do you have

[tough shuttle]

Right so do the cheese and ignore 100%ing for now okay.

I got told by some ppl that I should not bother with event farming anymore if I got the boxes and ship and wont reach 30k

[hollow quartz]

Seven right now

[atomic abyss]

How far are you from 30k tho

[tough shuttle]

I am at 15k 💀

[hollow quartz]

I can get an extra one from the medal shop if needed

[tough shuttle]

And I only have oil to do like 6 or 8 stages a day, which is lame I gotta say.

[atomic abyss]

Mob: Vittorio Veneto, Unicorn, Aquila, Portland, Laffey, San Diego

Boss: Nelson, Enterprise, Saratoga, Heinrich, Helena, Hipper meta

You can swap VV+Aquila with Nelson+Sara

[atomic abyss]

Work on event

I highly doubt you've gotten everything important

[tough shuttle]

I got gold boxes, the 8k meta ship and soon the UR

[atomic abyss]

Yeah, but you can always get more stuff

[tough shuttle]

kk

[atomic abyss]

Did you get the torp?

[tough shuttle]

Oh right I got that too

[atomic abyss]

It's not like you can farm campaign yet

[hollow quartz]

Thank you
Is Suzutsuki not worth investing in then? And what about the new two URs? Should I refrain from using them till I can mlb them?

[tough shuttle]

Thats what the other guy told me to do. Said its better than B3 for gear

[atomic abyss]

Suzu is worth considering but lack of gold bulins is issue

I rather you push the gold bulins into the backliners

[tough shuttle]

I use 6 ship fleet for event right? I am running out of fuel quickly but need commander XP and guide said ALWAYS USE 6 SHIP FOR COMMANDEr XP

[atomic abyss]

Yes, this will happen a lot early on
If you can, push to C1 once you're a bit higher levelled

[tough shuttle]

I did C1

But it was VERY close on manual. Like all ships 10 hp

[elfin hollow]

If i buy a skin and i retire the ship have that skin that i just bought then i can still display it right?

[atomic abyss]

No

You need the ship itself in order to display a skin

[late flame]

also if f2p forget about buying skins

[merry leaf]

Thoughts on napoli?

[atomic abyss]

Best tank in the game currently

[tough shuttle]

@atomic abyss I assume I only want to do C1 if I can clear it safely on auto? Or are some ship deaths on auto fine

[storm heron]

Is black torp better than rainbow torp aux for non-timing purposes in meta showdown?

[atomic abyss]

Ideally, clear without deaths
But you shd be getting a fair bit of levels from grinding maps tho

[tough shuttle]

Yeah but in this situation do I farm C1 with deaths and possible map fails or B3 safe?

[storm heron]

at that point b3 a bit low cost is better

[atomic abyss]

Pretty sure that's a negative

[tough shuttle]

Ayo I got a legendary submarine just now. I-13 any good?

[frank pulsar]

no

[atomic abyss]

No

[tough shuttle]

Classic 😦 Never good pulls

[atomic abyss]

Oh right forgot to say, ignore subs for now

Unless you have 3 good subs for a sub fleet, you're gonna be ignoring em

[frank pulsar]

theres good perma subs like u37 and albacore from merit shop

[atomic abyss]

U-96 in medal shop

[frank pulsar]

oh it was 96? not 37?

[tough shuttle]

On scale of LMAO to ICANTEVEN how bad are my pulls so far? (About 90 in)

[late flame]

wasting cubes before another UR event..

[tough shuttle]

?? Wdym there is an UR event

[late flame]

yorktown2 rerun

[frank pulsar]

nvm i misremembered, archerfish and 96 are both not in merit shop

[tough shuttle]

@atomic abyss Is this true? Should I not pull ships?? 😦

[frank pulsar]

if you dont have the new ur yet keep pulling imho

[desert plume]

what's the recommend gear for Fritz and z52?

[frank pulsar]

z52 uses single 113, improved/regular quad mag torp, a good aa gun and double toolbox
for fritz it depends

[merry leaf]

Do yall change ur AA gear or just use the same one. My AA just consists of quad and twin

[frank pulsar]

i mix and match aa guns depending on what i need
usually i use some mix of roomba and rainbow 57, sometimes sexy and twin 90

[merry leaf]

Ahh

[narrow ridge]

Am I supposed to buy the UR vouchers

[atomic abyss]

If you already got the UR from this event
You should be saving cubes for the next UR event

[tough shuttle]

Okay. Well sure as hell did not happen yet and I doubt it will xd

[atomic abyss]

So continue rolling then

[tough shuttle]

And I wanted a KMS fleet, RIP

[atomic abyss]

Faction fleets are trash

[tough shuttle]

I know. But I wanted one that would work. Somehow.

[late flame]

whatever bonuses from factions isnt worth fielding bad ships

[light trail]

why doesnt taihou meta have VO?

[atomic abyss]

You can raise your faction fleets when you have a plethora options

[barren tapir]

faction fleet is for fun only, not recommended to pursue until your account is strong and you can fool around

[light trail]

is there something im missing

[storm heron]

VO?

[whole crypt]

voice probably, just not added yet

[storm heron]

also VA for META usually added late

[fair lance]

Sometimes they have to wait for the voice actor to be free to make the lines

[light trail]

i see

[narrow ridge]

Is there any way to level ships skills without sending yhem to class because I only have two spots and it takes forever

[bold cove]

Censored... Look so weird

[whole crypt]

no, just take your time and prioritize good ships you're using

[light trail]

you just have to be patient

[tough shuttle]

I blurred out the guaranteed leg from daily login and non-leg ships

[storm heron]

azur lane is all about patient nvm you need to rush w12 asap

[bold cove]

Click some buttons and forget about it

[late flame]

yeah do not spend gems upgrading tactical class, since you'd either run out of books or actual ships that you wanna upgrade eventually

if whale though then ignore

[bold cove]

Im levling some ships to dev iris, then i changed my mind, few hundred books burn down in few click

[light trail]

does taihou meta look like anything great or will me raising her to max be purely a labor of love

[atomic abyss]

To quote suchi, the best heavy armoured meta carrier

...she is the only heavy armoured meta carrier

[late flame]

avi +1

[atomic abyss]

If anything, she is the worst SR meta CV

[storm heron]

power wise bad it seems, but tech wise avi + 1

[light trail]

expected, but it's ok bc love doesnt care about power levels

[tough shuttle]

SB2C Helldiver is best budget plane right?

[wind hazel]

best budget dive bomber yes

calling it budget is a bit funny but technically a budget option

[tough shuttle]

I mean much more budget than the rest of these

Considering I dont even have gear lab unlocked yet and IDK what the Superimposition shop is

[faint cloud]

the next UR event shop

[upbeat wagon]

Im at 35k points, i should still be farming event right?

[wind hazel]

ideally yes

[brave trail]

yes (for the gold plates)

[dull lichen]

Thanks for the help everyone;)

[upbeat wagon]

Running a bit low on oil tho

[tough shuttle]

I am at 35 oil

[brave trail]

do commissions

[tough shuttle]

Yeah I keep chaning thoe but they give like 80 avg

[brave trail]

pick ones with oil and stack them
also double check your oil storage

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-happy-gif-5670288

[spiral bone]

How do I get houshou

[storm heron]

wiki

houshou azuren

/wiki houshou

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Houshou
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Houshou_META
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Houshou/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Houshou/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Houshou_META/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/A_Day_Getting_Along_with_Houshou

Dec 28, 2024, 11:27 AM

[storm heron]

first link go to the bottom

[atomic abyss]

7-4 no?

The other places are like w15 iirc

[wintry obsidian]

Has anyone tested Bayard against other light cruisers? How does she compare to the rest of her class?

[storm heron]

iirc bayard has about the same performance as other top generalist light cruisers like harbin, but let me search to make sure
Edit: Bayard is great, she is a dps generalist that excels mostly in AoE scenario cause of her barrage. Compared to others in her hull though, she doesn't seem to offer any niche like other light cruiser does, for example her AA is nothing exceptional like Shimanto, her single target damage across all armor types is lower than those of harbin's, she doesn't provide much buff, and her tankiness is not that notable too

[ashen crow]

Does anyone have a tierlist for equipment?

[storm heron]

we do have equipment guides to compare which equipment is the best

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[ashen crow]

Thanks

[elfin hollow]

What’s the recommended dock space for f2p? I have 260 and I still have to sacrifice ships I dont use

[dreamy blade]

as much as you can get

if you already got the 2nd floor of the dorm then all of your gems go to dock space as f2p

[tropic tusk]

theres no recommend as some f2p just get ships to 120 then destory them

cause some ship requirement is just to mlb,120 and retrofit

[south sequoia]

^ you keep the tech even after you retire them

[blissful hamlet]

which is better tenrai or wyvern? no I don't care about intercept

[south sequoia]

Some f2ps buy skins and retire ships, you always gotta sacrifice something to get the other as a f2p.

[south sequoia]

Not even the same plane slot

But if you had to absolutely choose

[blissful hamlet]

it is on a flex slot

[south sequoia]

Wyvern on mob
Tenrai on boss

[blissful hamlet]

what if the fleet does both mob and boss

[tropic tusk]

u cant do that on higher campain maps

[storm heron]

tenrai ok

[bold cove]

Basically yes you can do 1 fleet for both boss and mob

[storm heron]

also what kinda contextless question is that serenity lol

[atomic abyss]

At that point might as well go spearfish

[blissful hamlet]

sadly I only have 1 spearfish and too laze to swap

[bold cove]

Then make more

[blissful hamlet]

so spearfish better than tenrai and wyvern? no I don't care about intercept

[storm heron]

wouldn't tenrai be better then

[atomic abyss]

If you don't care about intercept
The spearfish is outright better than the wyvern

[blissful hamlet]

so it's tenrai > spearfish > wyvern?

[atomic abyss]

Tenrai advantage is splash damage

Spearfish has rockets and torps

[blissful hamlet]

I see

[storm heron]

but spearfish most likely lose to tenrai against single target anyway but like

[atomic abyss]

Personally I favour spearfish more in this context because the rockets

To borrow rice's argument for a second

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like spearfish is better than tenrai then

[storm heron]

idk if spearfish better than tenrai in med

[atomic abyss]

The value of rockets lie in the fact that they will converge on elites (humanoids, cmd ship etc)

Which are your highest priority threats

[forest palm]

what...how'd you get that conclusion...

[blissful hamlet]

ah right forgot spearfish rocket have light mod

[storm heron]

what are we even cooking here

[atomic abyss]

I mean

Rice argues spearfish > wyvern for w15

And while I don't entirely agree with the recommendation
There are valid points to be made

[forest palm]

it's possible, but that depends on your ACV

[atomic abyss]

Personally, I feel that the debate is really dependent on how beneficial is wyvern AA exactly

Until we can quantify the value of that definitively, I feel it's a matter of preference

[vale spindle]

as much as possible
im f2p playing for 6 years and i have 750 ish now you will slowly get more as you progress don't worry

[storm heron]

I wonder where's that single target damage chart wall of text

[atomic abyss]

Do consider that repair ships are high priority light armour targets

[forest palm]

again the better your ACV is the less likely you would need the Wvyern's passive intercept

[atomic abyss]

All hail Fritz Rumey for ACV

[torn latch]

Wait, spearfish better in OpSi and META fight then?

I thought y'all said spearfish was mid when it just came out

[atomic abyss]

That's exactly why we recommend rocket planes for fighter slots on opsi mob

[storm heron]

mob OpSi yeah because the plane has 2 source of damage

[crimson glacier]

it is mid in meta fight

and not important at mob

[storm heron]

in meta fight, is there even people using spearfish

[atomic abyss]

Opsi mobbing it's outright better

But do you really want to craft it just for something as easy as opsi mobbing?

[crimson glacier]

i doubt i would notice any difference if i used it on mob

[storm heron]

Did you guys say spearfish mid when it just came out?

[crimson glacier]

well it is

[wind hazel]

no

[atomic abyss]

Min maxers do say using your BF-109Gs on say Uni or Indep or whoever your mobber is does speed it up

[storm heron]

[blissful hamlet]

better use La-9

[atomic abyss]

I mean you yourself said you're lazy to switch gear...

[blissful hamlet]

and yeah I use La-9 on unicorn and indep and my opsi mob fleet can clear any mod in just 10s

[atomic abyss]

Indep doesn't even airstrike in 10s

Make it make sense

[crimson glacier]

of that 10 seconds, how much does uni contribute even lol

[forest palm]

the biggest problem with the Spearfish is the opportunity cost isn't all that...great considering the mats it requires to craft are rarer, and in more demand

[blissful hamlet]

vanguard + uni clear in 10s

[atomic abyss]

Indep at earliest is like 12s?

[fossil hull]

what happens when a pr ship gets to development lv 30

[torn latch]

So crafting one spearfish is worth it or not? Or just ignore spearfish and keep crafting wyvern instead?

[crimson glacier]

its the same as max limit break

[atomic abyss]

Congrats, they are now good to be used

[blissful hamlet]

actually vanguard + uni + nj barrage

[atomic abyss]

Now work towards fate sim 5

[atomic abyss]

I would ignore spearfish entirely if you're casual

[torn latch]

Though at this point I almost overflow with wyvern stock, I dont think I really need to craft another wyvern

[storm heron]

when tenrai come out, will you guys craft more of it?

[crimson glacier]

if i need to

[forest palm]

nope

[atomic abyss]

Craft according to needs

[forest palm]

I have 4, and I only use 2 of them at a given time

[crimson glacier]

i never craft anything for no reason

[atomic abyss]

You shd need no more than 3 tenrai

Amagi, Haku, Nano use 1 each vs heavy

Impla and Nakhi don't use DBs

[storm heron]

ok2 I will craft my third

[atomic abyss]

I intend to craft 1 too

[wind hazel]

crafting 4 more so that my ranger twins can have their own tenrai

[gray sphinx]

Madman levels of dedication right there

[forest palm]

just craft Fubuki her own exclusive Tenrai cause why not

[crimson glacier]

crafting 10 more so i can start crying about having no craft materials and the game sucking

[storm heron]

putting tenrai in ranger only for 1 plane to come out

[nocturne glade]

is it ok to take ships im using to 125 even if theyre not very good? Or should I save the chips

[atomic abyss]

Save

[storm heron]

nah save, most likely they won't make or break

[nocturne glade]

What level would you usually recommend stopping?

[atomic abyss]

120

For fleet tech

[nocturne glade]

so when you only use the light blues, got it. Ty!

[storm heron]

I would stop earlier if I discover bad tech

[atomic abyss]

Only 125 ships you use for high end content
So opsi abyssals, arbiters, CM, w14/15

Maybe strongholds too

[nocturne glade]

icic

[atomic abyss]

But those are easier

[elfin hollow]

how do you grind gems ??? 😭😭

[atomic abyss]

You don't

[atomic abyss]

You push campaign
You can't grind them per se

[elfin hollow]

I know there’s commission but they give me around 10% chances 😭

[atomic abyss]

There are 4750 permanent gems

Gem comms are unreliable

[tropic parcel]

you swipe the credit card

[atomic abyss]

In other words, grind irl

Instead of touching the grass, cut the grass

And then get paid for it

[sharp socket]

york5head

[elfin hollow]

sigh..time to go Romania

[tropic parcel]

but seriously skins are great and all but use those gems to buy dock space, its not as hot but in the long run you'll be very grateful for it

[trail leaf]

I need tenrai blueprints what's the best research to get them?

[wind hazel]

q riggings

[storm heron]

note: do D-UL at your own risk, I am not responsible for the 5 cubes that cause you to miss a UR

[trail leaf]

Thx

[bold cove]

Get a job?

No mocking, but this game gems income is kinda tight

[tropic tusk]

its like next to none tbh

and u need like 200? for 10 space?

[tropic parcel]

you can get all the azur lane titties you want for free on pixiv

which is not an h site but the biggest illustration site for japanese style art, think deviantart but with actual professionals

[storm heron]

sus

[storm heron]

delete pls

[atomic abyss]

I mean

[storm heron]

welp too late

[atomic abyss]

Technically the truth

[tropic tusk]

feels like there is a but

[atomic abyss]

If you just want PNGs go to pixiv

If you wanna pokemon and collect em all, yeah you kinda need to sink most of your f2p gems into dock space

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

At least with AL, you can actually catch em all while remaining f2p

It's not practical to do this with other games

[storm heron]

yeah it's relatively cheap collection

[tropic parcel]

my only other gacha is star rail and if you try to catch em all f2p is impossible, and its the most generous hoyo game

[dire flare]

who's the best to get from the new year 7 ticket thingy

[storm heron]

yeah read the pins first

[dire flare]

oke

[ashen crow]

Is Z52 any good?

[white agate]

yes

[dire flare]

if I start grinding now with no previous grinding whatsoever, can I still get z52

[wind hazel]

depends on how hard you grind, but it's possible

[spring bolt]

1st copy is easy if you do it correctly

[clever lance]

When is the last day to farm for supplies from the event to swap for Ur vouchers

[tropic parcel]

3 more days

[clever lance]

Thanks

[rapid grail]

there used to be a guide on how to farm gems as f2p, writer even bragged about buying skins as f2p

alas, even i cannot find it nowadays

it lives only in my memories

[novel solstice]

Mostly it's "push as far as you can in the campaign, you're getting some gems for 3-starring levels", followed by "stay active, and pay attention when finishing a map in case it says you got an urgent comm".

There's not really anything you can do to get more gem commissions other than playing a lot and paying attention so you don't miss them when they do show up. So burn your oil and your ap.
And if you sometimes don't log in for a while, make sure you do log in during LNY when they give out free gems.

You can learn the names of the gem comms to make it a little easier to not be checking the comm list as much. "... Holiday ..." or "... VIP ..." comms are gem ones.

[dire flare]

teach me

[wind hazel]

if you can do D3 and SP, play the minigame and you can guarantee one copy of z52 already

[ionic kestrel]

hello does someone else have an issue where your ships dont get morale despite being in the 2nd floor dorm?

[novel solstice]

Run SP once a day if you can, grind the minigame to the end, do whatever the daily mission is that gives you some of the currency, then run D3 until you have enough to buy the rest of it.

[rain vine]

close and reopen game

[wind hazel]

might be server desync, just relog

[novel solstice]

If you left the game running over night, restart, it apparently bugs out on that.

But they should be full morale again after the restart, it's just a display issue.

[tropic tusk]

quick question q 368 or q389 better? research

[ionic kestrel]

restarting didn help but putting them out of the dorm and in did make them recover morale

[forest palm]

it doesn't matter

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[plain saffron]

just diff mats needed

[forest palm]

a 368, and 389 are both going to use Gray Plates

[dire flare]

does hard mode still give currency or no

[rain vine]

yes

[forest palm]

they always give currency, what you're looking at is a multiplier

and a once per day multiplier at that

[dire flare]

clear it once and the multiplier will go away?

[forest palm]

once every day you get x3 on normals, no really worth it

[dire flare]

on each stage or on one stage

[forest palm]

on all normal stages

[storm heron]

wait not worth it?

[forest palm]

unless you can run a 5 to 3 oil fleet ya

[dire flare]

that's good then, I have too much oil

[storm heron]

it's definitely more oil to points than D3 full fleet though with unicorn + ddg

[dire flare]

i still have 10-15k in mail

[storm heron]

dont use mail

mail literally do not expire, some people here has pil that come from like 2018 mail

[dire flare]

yea, which is why there's that much in mail, the 20k is from events

[spring bolt]

mini game gives you 105 for free, event ship clearing b3/d3 gives 50, clearing sp for the first time gives 50, clearing sp after that gives you 5, daily event mission gives 5
so since there are 3 more days left for the event, you can get 105+50+50+15+15=235 vouchers
if you can't clear sp/missing event ships, you will have to grind event stages to exchange for vouchers, at most you will need to grind 80, assuming you got no event ship and can't clear sp, which means 12000 pt
daily 3x ab maps + 3 star rewards + daily mission (not including 3 builds) + event one time mission in 3 days gives you 7820, which means you will need to clear b3 34 times to get enough pts

[elfin hollow]

Not gameplay related but how do I access this each time I look away I opened it

[rain vine]

its an afk screen

[soft raft]

leave the game idle in the main menu for like at least 1 min

[dire flare]

is there a clear limit? cause if there isnt I could go for the 2nd copy possibly

[elfin hollow]

hello guys, new player here, i would like to ask about some farming tips. i want to farm B3 event, but my fleet cost is too high (63) any advice for low oil fleet? thank you

[rain vine]

run less ships

[soft raft]

/oilpsa TLDR No dont bother low fleeting if you aint a tryhard

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[spring bolt]

clear limit? what is that?

[soft raft]

like you gotta tryhard quite a bit to make low cost farming worth it

[dire flare]

thank you for answering my question

[storm heron]

what is a clear limit

[spring bolt]

well i guess the limit is oil reserve and ship morale, other than those no limit exists

[upbeat wagon]

Are the 3x normal stages higher oil efficiency compared to D1/D3 for event tokens

[dire flare]

hard mode has a clear limit of 3 in the story mode, so I assumed there would be a limit in events

[soft raft]

the 3x bonuses are worth it if you can 1:1 them
otherwise just keep farming D3

[upbeat wagon]

Nvm u can 1:1 5head

[spring bolt]

ah no such thing in event stages

apart from sp, which is 1 every day

[upbeat wagon]

Something like level 115 musashi and z23 should be able to do right?

[storm heron]

ofc higher efficiency for the first run since 3x

[soft raft]

yeah that's definetly more than enough

[tawdry topaz]

is barrage gun better on Z52 than UR gun?

[soft raft]

does that actually work?

[elfin hollow]

113

[soft raft]

British Single 113
Balance of high fire rate and not-dogshit Damage

[spring bolt]

yes, minimum you can give her a blue 76 and she will work

[tawdry topaz]

crafted an UR DD gun for nothing 😭

[soft raft]

Just give it to another DD
Or San Diego

[elfin hollow]

give it to laffey 2 or sandy

[plain saffron]

classic do first ask later

[storm heron]

wait I am confused, uni ddg for A1 3x is apparently worse then 1:1 D3

[tawdry topaz]

It's fine I'll give it to Casin for cheap farming

[dire flare]

is there a guide on building fleets

cause I barely understand what each ship role does

[soft raft]

no like did you mean "Higher efficency" as in the 2x plans or what

[soft raft]

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding
Then you can post your dock in a thread if you need further help

[royal copper]

i was literally just looking for this

[dire flare]

oke

[storm heron]

ohh no, I was saying that daily clears yields higher efficiency in terms of oil to points if you can, but apparently A1 1:1 first time daily is 90 oil for 90 points, while D3 1:1 takes 150 oil for 180 points

[royal copper]

hi doggo

[dire flare]

btw, does using fleets at 0 ammo affect morale?

thank you

[fast steppe]

should I use bf109s for event mobbing

[elfin hollow]

Chat I need some guidance on 15-4. My first fleet is sashi, unicorn, Aquila, Guam, laffey 2 and sandy. My second is NJ, york2, perseus, ägir, z52, Plymouth. I get that you go with sashi fleet first, clear the boss, then clear second boss with the other fleet, and clear the last boss with sashi fleet again. But how do you 3 star it? Like I can clear it but what is the other fleet supposed to do? I fight the boss with the second fleet and its not good against anything else because it just dies fast. Basically what I'm asking is what order of attacks do you have to do to 3 star it after the last boss is revealed, sashi fleet is on 2 or 1 ammo I forgot, and the other fleet has 4 but as I said, it's not good because it isn't as good as the sashi fleet for survivability and damage, too many planes and submarines 💀 any recommendations? I tried watching a video or a guide but they don't show you how to 3 star it and what order, they just show fleet recommendations without specific tips

[dusk maple]

Musashi fleet is supposed to 3 star it, it has the most sustain. Use subs. You can bring down the threat level to safe before doing 3 star.

[shell willow]

you should use z52 on musashi fleet, and then leave the easier nodes for out of ammo battles (clear it with musashi), also use sub attacks for out of ammo and leave 1 ammo for last boss (take ammo node on 3/5 first)

[remote quarry]

Save your subs for the out of ammo fights too

[sharp socket]

get 3rd star after grinding it to safe is my recommendation

[fast steppe]

any thoughts

[elfin hollow]

I'll get it to safe first and then try to 3 star it. But damn after sashi gets left with 1 amo there's still like 5-6 ships to defeat on map, I tried to clear them with sashi but then had to fight the last boss with 0 amo and got nuked 💀 so idk how is sashi fleet supposed to 3 star it tbh because she needs to stay put with 1 amo, my problem is my other fleet I think

[sharp socket]

go ahead

[shell willow]

like i said, if you take the ammo node on 3/5 then 1 ammo will remain, you go clear everything except for the last boss then you take that last ammo for the boss

[novel solstice]

Try it and see if it works?
It's an event map, it doesn't need a perfect fleet composition.

[elfin hollow]

so the other fleet is just supposed to fight second boss and then do nothing?

[shell willow]

you can clear 1-2 nodes with it, depends on your power level

just be aware not to fight a node that you are not sure you can clear because you cant escape normal nodes

[sharp socket]

i tend to just put bomb fighter for mobbing and never touch it forever and it works

[elfin hollow]

yeah I can clear 2 nodes more with it, but it still leaves 3-4 ships to deal with. But yeah, imma get it to safe mode

[remote quarry]

Having a sub fleet at 125 helps a lot

[elfin hollow]

I have a fully maxed U boat submarine fleet but the issue persists

[remote quarry]

Flapjacks are your friend

[dire flare]

is fritz good

[rain vine]

yes

[winter dagger]

if i could only make one, prototype spearfish or wyvern?

[rain vine]

wyvern

[sharp socket]

they use different resources, but wyvern

[winter dagger]

so in most cases/ships wyvern > proto spearfish?

[cobalt rapids]

3* lethaling chapter 15 is the hardest content in the game so ur stuff needs to be top notch
im not sure what u have but if ure using the mob everything except 2nd boss strat then make sure u stack more xfleets on ur boss

[winter dagger]

ty ty ❤️

[storm heron]

considering people live without spearfish longer than people living without wyvern, yes

[sharp socket]

should i take out anyone for indep/amagi

w15 boss

for 15-1/2

maybe also 15-3 if game lets me

[storm heron]

I personally would use indep+1 just so I have enough intercepting aircraft and some crossfleet (and arguably better damage curve stagger)

[sharp socket]

haku has more bombs it seems, so i take out shinano for indep?

[storm heron]

seems so, your equips kinda supports it

[dire flare]

is there ever a reason not to use exp data packs

[sharp socket]

ill just shift tenrai to volga

[soft raft]

CDC XP? XP Grind is the easy part of Research
Regular ship XP packs? Just use them when you need to, simple as that

[sharp socket]

shinano also isnt getting buffed by 3 ijn anyway

[dire flare]

what counts as need

[sharp socket]

speed leveling for pushing content, or to boost a ship to send into exp farm hell

[storm heron]

for example you realized you fked up since you forgot to put all the event ships at dorm to reach level 70 for the event border, 600 exp packs and boom you got your border

[dire flare]

what is exp farm hell

[sharp socket]

farm exp in event or 12-4 until theyre lv120 for tech or for usage in hard content

for example i want to level aurora for usage in hard content, i book her to lv90 then throw into event and after that 12-4 for exp

[willow crag]

hi, uh just double checking my priority of MLB here, Musashi then Fritz right??? Im uninformed of the new UR skillset

[atomic abyss]

Musashi then save given yk2 rerun in a few days

[willow crag]

yk2?

[soft raft]

Yorktown 2

[atomic abyss]

Yorktown2 rerun yeah

On the 9th

[willow crag]

I have her, Ill just pick up Laffey 2

[spring bolt]

where is your z52? already maxed?

[atomic abyss]

Laffey 2 is from Guam event tho

[sharp socket]

yk2 next year

[storm heron]

yk II is coming next year, be prepared

[willow crag]

oh my bad then, dont need to save I only lack Bis Zwei right now

[remote quarry]

Yk2 is in like 2 weeks.

[wind hazel]

2 weeks is next year

[prisma pendant]

Yo how do i know which cats to use/discard?

[last swift]

Guys, how can I improve my formation? and is everything okay with her?

[storm heron]

sus, use portland instead of Mipper

[sharp socket]

take out hipper meta for portland else probably ok

[dire flare]

fleet help

[sharp socket]

also limit break your ships

[willow crag]

so uh... since I have yk2 already its fine for me to just spend up my UR bulins on both amirit?

[atomic abyss]

Well, there is still z52
While z52 doesn't need UR bulins as much, the general sentiment is she'll be used more so

[spring bolt]

gonna ask again: where is your z52? already maxed?

[sharp socket]

if you're caught up on URs then id say yes, sushi and z52

[atomic abyss]

I would MLB Musashi and hold since we're not sure

[storm heron]

who is the bb beside penn?

[willow crag]

I just came back, I dont have her

[rain vine]

giulio cesare meta

[spring bolt]

??? she's basically free in current event shop

[sharp socket]

although if you're caught up on URs id go with sushi and fritz cause your frontline would be very good and backline have greater impact

[rotund creek]

make thread so people can help you

[spring bolt]

check the pin, there is more than enough time you can get her from shop and it's highly recommended to start working on it now

[willow crag]

I am starting the event RIGHT NOW, so give me a few moments, like a few days

[sharp socket]

prevals don't put fritz highly but they said the same about yk2 too i heard

[last swift]

fleet help

[keen sable]

Is complicated but start with talents like flame mountain soul ace wolf

[storm heron]

Maybe yk2 more useful since pair enterprise good campaign. Nvm they are like very niche for me to care

[sharp socket]

if he's already 15-4 cleared building for campaign wont be high up there

[true kraken]

Which one of these has crossfleet buff?

[forest palm]

all but Haku have a crossfleet, not that the buffs have any meaningful impact

[storm heron]

Yuki, Iggy, Armageddon, Hani

[novel solstice]

There is a crossfleet command that you can run in bot-spam that lists who has crossfleet skills and what they do.

[frank pulsar]

iirc all gacha ur has a crossfleet buff, and all dr dont

[last swift]

What can I replace Giulio Cesare meta with?
if sho I have a New Year's card for exchange

[tough shuttle]

@atomic abyss Should I scrap ALL my "Combat Data Pack - Series [x]" or leave some specific?

[eternal moth]

Analyze all of them

[atomic abyss]

Scrap/Analyse all

Don't use them

[eternal moth]

I'd take Graf Zepp from the invite

But I'd also drop the 2 gold from the event and use your starter and portland instead.

[tough shuttle]

Thats uhhh a recommendation to be sure. I got told like 20 times that Graf is bad and I took Richelieu from invite for my main BB (after consuling ender)

[keen sable]

You shouldn't believe everything you read here?

[eternal moth]

Riche's a good choice. I actually use her as well on my alt account.

[soft raft]

Graf's only value is german tech points

[spice phoenix]

i can scrap the tempesta cats if i’m not trying to collect them right?

[soft raft]

the Elite ones sure
but the SR ones are all pretty damn decent

[eternal moth]

So she shouldn't be T1 on ECTL?

[remote quarry]

ECTL claims it is a progression Tier list for newer players. If you are talking endgame, she is definitely not T1.

[keen sable]

Isn't richy t1 trash then what about hood?

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I'm talking about talking Graf endgame for a player without a single gold carrier.

[keen sable]

Have fun doing hard mode without a carrier

[remote quarry]

Endgame is W14 and 15. If they are there without a single gold CV, props to them

[eternal moth]

Bro, scroll up to see the guy I'm talking about. His highest-level ship is a 50 Penny

I know Graf isn't the best, and is fairly niche, but she's still going to be better than Long Island.

[tough shuttle]

Even still I would rather take Rich than Graf considering I actually feel like me BB is doing something after getting her even only to LB2 compared to MLB penny

[elfin hollow]

Alright ty. Just got 100% on it and Houston 2 dropped for me, I'll get it to safe mode then tweak gear/ships:)

[tough shuttle]

"Ranger is budget Enty" - allegedly

[eternal moth]

That's... not necessarily WRONG, but not quite the whole picture.

But yeah, taking RIche instead of Graf is probably the simpler solution.

[tough shuttle]

Also my situation is slightly different considering I somehow pulled 3 golden CV and before a single other golden ship

[keen sable]

I just love farming fdg with ugly sisters /s

[tough shuttle]

Who are ugly sisters

[eternal moth]

Gneisanau and Scharnhorst

[tough shuttle]

Also I want FdG, looks cool, dunno how to rush it xd

[keen sable]

Scharnhorst and gneisenau

[spring bolt]

long island endgame light dps is top 10 among all carriers tho

[eternal moth]

That's their canon nickname.

[tropic tusk]

u just missed her uniform skin sadly

[tough shuttle]

Are they the ship equivalent of Fiat Multipla?

[eternal moth]

No, they're actually not bad-looking ships. I'm not sure where the name came from, but I think it's a British colloquialism.

[tough shuttle]

Ah okay

[primal silo]

the recent fdg skin was the pool one, right?
pittsburgh event?

the uniform was ulrich iirc?

[unique lantern]

who is next up for mlb here? i doubt ill pull enough for extra copies of rumey so its either z52 done next month or either of the others in early febuary

[tough shuttle]

There is no point 100%ing a hardmode stage in campaign right?

[unique lantern]

missions

[primal silo]

sushi lb0 at lv123

[tough shuttle]

Thats 3* tho?

[eternal moth]

Yeah, no need if you don't need to run it again

[unique lantern]

you can 3* without 100% them?

later hardmode stages need like 6 clears or some shit to just get the second star

[spring bolt]

btw it's not recommended to pull for copy unless you whale hard...

[eternal moth]

Run through, kill everything the first time, then go back and kill the mobs but leave the boss. You can clear 3 stages in one day that way and get the rewards.

[unique lantern]

was running out of useful ships to level, so i prelevel my future useful ships

[primal silo]

fair enough

[unique lantern]

anyway, which of those 3 to mlb first?

for context i got all o dat shit

[tropic tusk]

oh right mb, i keep mixing them up for some reason xD

[storm heron]

[spring bolt]

musa > z52 > fritz

[unique lantern]

aight, seems im waiting till febuary then

[storm heron]

what about yorkbruh

[unique lantern]

what about york

she coming up next or smth?

[storm heron]

yeah she's coming like in less than 2 weeks

[unique lantern]

i dont have the damn UR bullins for all of that

[spring bolt]

i personally rate yk2 below fritz as in priority

[storm heron]

tbh, I will say at this point, may seem controversial, but just mlb who you like between those 4

Do note that musashi made w15 far easier

nvm others do the same 🤡

[unique lantern]

im just curious, the people who been around since ur bullins were first introduced, how many specialised cores/ur bullins you got leftover ?

[kindred arrow]

Is daisen gun good in any context for anyone not named Musashi?

[storm heron]

I don't think so given champagne and soyuz and flandre gun exist

never seen anyone Ls preferring daisen gun over them

[spring bolt]

109k sp core and 3 ur bulins, all ur mlb
i missed a lot so others may have 150k ish?

[kindred arrow]

That's what I was thinking, I'll keep my one for sushi and not bother with dupes then
Thanks thanks

[crimson glacier]

i have been wasteful so 1 bulin and 60k

[storm heron]

I have been playing for 16 months and I do not have extra bulins

after the yk II event, my bulin will be 0

[keen sable]

Something like 130k

[kindred arrow]

I'm fresh off my 24th month, no bulins or core after this event but I'm finally caught up with my UR backlog if we don't count UvH and Kron

[unique lantern]

kron is the only UR i missed, still so sad about it, if i hadnt spammed cubes early on i might have gotten her, now i need to wait 1.5yrs or something :v

[kindred arrow]

Nah, she'll get perma'd Soon™️

She's next UR in line to get archived

[unique lantern]

oh nice, i will probably not miss a single ur from hereon out either unless i get super unlucky 3 or 4 events in a row

[spring bolt]

bigger issue for me is 16k chip gap to max all tech ships, at normal rate the gap will get bigger... i might have to do cube research to fill in the gap or whale

[formal thicket]

hi, i dont know if its been asked before but does this expire ?

[last swift]

Uh muh

[spring bolt]

no, it stays forever

[ionic mirage]

How long the current event banner will last?

[formal thicket]

thank you very much

[unique lantern]

jan 1st

[ionic mirage]

Oh so I should save for NY banner then?

[kindred arrow]

There's a dead week, then Yorktown II rerun

[unique lantern]

im still missing z11 and duisburg but i dont have the coins for pulls

[kindred arrow]

Very recommended to stop pulling and save if you don't have her yet

[eternal moth]

Neither one of them are really important

[ionic mirage]

I started today so wanted to ask, I will save

[unique lantern]

well its more about me liking the z series ships and wanting the the frame

[eternal basalt]

Run 12-4

[storm heron]

run 12-4 and do low oil

[spring bolt]

from faster progression pov you should get graf zep as she contributes to IB tech for fdg and agir, (bismarck is available in medal exchange), but if you already got fdg or have enough ib tech points for fdg or you are not rushing anything i guess richelieu will also do
anyway, pin has analysis for each ship in the exchange

[storm heron]

looks like you can build low oil with alsace musa nj as crossfleet

[zinc prairie]

is there another arbiter after hard? like EX arbiter fight?

[kindred arrow]

Hm, actually, I don't know if for a new account trying for YKII or Rumey would be better...
Definitively try and get the freebie Z52 though

[spring bolt]

it's the same hard arbiter after you beat it, and gives no reward

[ionic mirage]

OKAYYY!!! From the event shop right? Where to get those points?

[zinc prairie]

i thought there will be another stronger arbiter

[storm heron]

ikr, hard arbiter is not even that hard

[spring bolt]

i hope the same but devs haven't updated that part for years

[storm heron]

Big question of the channel, ykII vs Rumey

or just safe for implac

[eternal basalt]

Both

[kindred arrow]

Yes, from the event shop
You get points from minigame, a daily quest and a daily run of SP (which you won't be able to do). Also from converting event points in the shop
Might be a little tight, but maybe is doable for a fresh player with a lot of grind?

[ionic mirage]

Oof I will try

[kindred arrow]

I wouldn't skip YK to save for Impla, she's still so far away you can gamble on yorktown and get way over pity by the time Impla comes

[eternal basalt]

+the new UR then

[spring bolt]

i think he was talking about ur bulin priority...

[kindred arrow]

Oh then

I'd go Impla first if no Kear built, buy yk if yes Kear

[eternal basalt]

Kear doesn't take bulin

[kindred arrow]

I know, but bulins are tight enough that I feel saving for Impla would be better in that case
But I like to mlb new URs as we get them so I'm maybe stingier than most on reruns

[storm heron]

nothing impla can't do

[cedar willow]

should i exchange BP V, VI for Agir?

[kindred arrow]

Don't

[cedar willow]

oh, i rarely use them

[kindred arrow]

Run Anchorage if you need a tank while Agir is being built
You'll want those DR blanks for Ply/Brest Hindenburg/Kear

[cedar willow]

i had mlb Ply and Anchor

so how 'bout Brest?

[kindred arrow]

As a rule of thumb, it's better to use the general prints for the season they're for

[cedar willow]

ah okay

i even didn't use them when i built Ply lol

[earnest sundial]

Is there any way of getting around this mission (returning player) without spending gold plates?? I already have 3 +13 white shells

[storm heron]

buying 5 general t4 parts isn't that hard, they give you 15 even

for the upgrade one, just ignore it

what are you even gonna get anyways? 35 gold plate is definitely not it for 2/15 a gold bulin

[eager mulch]

No

[storm heron]

[keen sable]

Coining probably is coming soon just wait for lny and see

[ashen crow]

Is purple F6F Hellcat better or Corsair?

[cobalt rapids]

corsair better

[elder grove]

oh is there any gear guides? I got like 80+ boxes of each faction in my inventory I wanna know what gear to look out for

[cobalt rapids]

/equip sams

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[fast steppe]

what's the numbers for full adaptability

[elder grove]

what is considered mid game?

[cobalt rapids]

uh depends on every1s definition
i would say somewhere around w12~harby kill
why do u ask

[cobalt rapids]

203/203/156 covers all opsi content

[fast steppe]

thanks

btw should i challenge hard arbiter even if i can't clear it for the partial rewards

[eager mulch]

yes

[fast steppe]

also does toils of war affect crossfleet damage

[gilded carbon]

i find it difficult to find the next group of ships to MLB for me. Now that the french BBs for the next shipyard-ship are mlb. Currently, im torn between Allen M. Summer, Le Triumphant, Zuihou or Indiana.

[keen sable]

Imo cost limit which can be as early like L60 ships or as late as hard stuck 11-3

[eternal basalt]

Toils of War elimates the cast entirely, so yes

[fast steppe]

ic

[hollow gust]

Well Indiana is better then most SR BBs

[keen sable]

There's nothing special about any of them

[gilded carbon]

i dont have any truly special SRs left, likely

[fast steppe]

oh wtf i beat hard arbiter

guess it was worth a try

[eternal moth]

Welcome to the beginning of end game. You just start leveling ships for fleet tech

[keen sable]

Then zuihou

[gilded carbon]

yep

[worn quest]

is there a list of good purple equipment worth keeping?

[gilded carbon]

i do have a lot more SRs that i could lvl instead, maybe i will put up a list and some screens when i have better internet

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equip

[storm heron]

when in doubt, just dump to a random ship that you locked

[fast steppe]

is sirius' cv buff bigger than kazagumo's?

if the boss isn't a dd cl or ca

[storm heron]

Definitely no

sirius only have a chance against ARA if the boss is light/med armored, dd/cl/ca

[fast steppe]

who has the regular ARA?

[storm heron]

currently kearsarge, kazagumo are the most notable ones

[hollow gust]

It's the easiest harby of the year

[fast steppe]

ic

[sharp wave]

Should I got for meta hipper or z52 first

[fast steppe]

z52

[full spire]

hi, could somebody maybe show me what current fleets are meta? i havent played for like a year, so i missed out on many URs

[storm heron]

hipper meta ignorable

[fast steppe]

does a +10 6crh beat a +13 white shell on vg?

[storm heron]

Nope, even on the same level for hms ships crh only beats white shell by an 3- 5%

[hollow gust]

Depends on content

[full spire]

im at world 13 currenlty

[fast steppe]

also does a fire control table replace a black or white shell

[full spire]

but its kinda overwhelming seeing 10+ new UR ships

[hollow gust]

Post your dock in a thread if you need fleet building help

[storm heron]

for mob/campaign, it's Musashi/Uni/Aquila
for Single target boss fights such as opsi, challenge mode, and meta showdown, CVs are the way to go
Light: Kear ykII Nakh
Med: Soy Nakh Rumey
Heavy: Amagi Shinano Implac

[gilded carbon]

hmmm. Another Question. Should i maybe prep some ships for the Fleet Support in W15 (?) first? Simply, well, because i can?

[full spire]

thanks, and do you maybe have recommendations for vanguard as well?

[storm heron]

sure, do note that some of them have limited to no use outside w15

[storm heron]

lemme edit

nvm vanguard is quite flexible locked and dependent on the fight

generally you just use whoever will survive the fight while doing more danage contributions

some fights have lower damage vanguard because their tankiness is appreciated

[hollow gust]

It depends on what you have , if you really have everything you can copy the fleets from /w15 but I doubt you do

[fast steppe]

i thought because of the hit it replaces white but i had a look at slaimuda and apparently it replaces black?

[gilded carbon]

its with so many gachas in the end. More and more units that are often obsolete and thus need only to be lvled for other purposes. And, really, the roster of what i use otherwise is rather slim anyway. In a way, managed thanks to the community here.

A big thanks to this chat here in the first place. When i came back, i could barely manage 9-4N. Now, i cleared 12-4N and are working my way up the Hard-mode too.

[full spire]

no i dont unfortunately

[hollow gust]

Ship dependent

[cobalt rapids]

depends on fight and less on ship
but most often than not it replaces black because 1 hit > 1 fp unless the target has low eva

[hollow gust]

That's why it's easier just to post your main ships in a thread and someone can build it for you

[fast steppe]

ic

[full spire]

ty

[white agate]

when was fs pr6 released? at pr7 release?

[storm heron]

June, pr7 was July

[viscid swift]

No during the EN Anni this year

[storm heron]

oh wait pr6 fatesim on EN anni?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[storm heron]

which is when again?

[viscid swift]

august

[white agate]

nice i am safe, was scared i would not be able to finish pr 7 before fs

[full spire]

need help with w13-w14 fleet comp

[fickle hollow]

How good is the free UR?

[white agate]

kron has high chance to get added to the permapool shortly right?

[storm heron]

amazing ™️

[white agate]

really good, she is an ur. only bad ur is warkai

[viscid swift]

yes, she's next in line

[cobalt rapids]

shes next archive in line theoretically we dont know when

[soft raft]

Just leave of your own free will if you really dont want to be here

The button is right there

[white agate]

yep, was just trying to guess if i could keep myself from 400/400 long enough

[storm heron]

wut is this Remessage

also the fastest way to make us ban you is to literally breaking rules multiple times

[worldly pewter]

but also u can make another discord account and join back

[whole crypt]

there's no reason for us to be babysitting your internet habits

[cobalt rapids]

hes gone, lets move on

[storm heron]

to where?

[inner delta]

damn, caring about internet rando

[ionic mirage]

Got her, is she good to use or not?

The first one

[viscid swift]

when you can max limit break her yes

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

start with low rarity ships

[undone plover]

is there any CV gear that gives rld?

[storm heron]

the beacon

[undone plover]

yeah I mean besides that
and that doesnt rly give rld

[storm heron]

idk what 4% is equivalent to rld wise

[undone plover]

does noshi muse sakura gear skill offset her torpedo DRB by 5 seconds? or just adds a 5 sec proc at the start of battle

[jade spire]

Is z52 better than shima?

[stark quiver]

Currently not, only ones that do give any rld at all are autoloaders, rammers, oxytorps and tempests stuff

[jade spire]

Holy shit... A free UR and she is ex tier too...

[white agate]

well, you still need to mlb her

[jade spire]

Btw how how are u guys doin the ex stage?

[viscid swift]

Shima isn't exactly a high bar to beat either these days

hard mode? I don't

[jade spire]

Event ex stage

[whole crypt]

EX normal can be managed by something that's approximately your usual OS boss comp
EX hard is just manual

[viscid swift]

no I mean hard mode of the EX stage

[white agate]

yes, but there are easy ex and hard ex, do easy

[jade spire]

Im suffering the easy...

[viscid swift]

well what are you using

[jade spire]

I dont have top tier equipments though

[whole crypt]

you don't need absolute top tier stuff but it's still a lv125 boss encounter

[stark quiver]

Cheeky ex grinder?

[viscid swift]

are those URs max limit broken?

[jade spire]

Ya

[viscid swift]

well what gear are you using then

[whole crypt]

getting Musashi to 125 would be a start
all the URs should using AP guns for this one

[stark quiver]

Ex boss is heavy armor

[whole crypt]

An Shan might be doing too much here

[storm heron]

this easy EX very tanky

[stark quiver]

Musashis auxes are horrific
Use a fcr and black shell

[jade spire]

Welp I run outta time and an shan gets killed early

[storm heron]

black torp kronstadt

[fast steppe]

the ulrich main and aux is uhhh

[eager mulch]

I think the gear is bad

[whole crypt]

An Shan doesn't really do much for this fight
Musashi's gun needs to be at least +10 and her auxes are rubbish
Kronshtadt has no business using torp aux and should be going tank gear

[fast steppe]

also do you not have any STAAGs?

[jade spire]

Of course, i said it. Also i got skill issues with building i admit...

[whole crypt]

I assure you staags isn't the problem here

[cobalt rapids]

boss has 0 eva dont need staags

[fast steppe]

o

[viscid swift]

the bigger and more obvious question is why CVs aren't being used

[eager mulch]

pushing the twin 134 agenda today

[viscid swift]

against a stationary heavy armor boss, converging TBs are 2nd to none for this

[storm heron]

0 eva boss...

[fast steppe]

skills are also suspect

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure if normal is also 0 EVA but regardless staags are not the problem

[jade spire]

Now where should i start from?😑

[whole crypt]

for a start make Musashi's gun at least +10 and give her shells

the AFCT you have on UvH probably has more business on her, or FdG

[jade spire]

Dont have shells though

[whole crypt]

Musashi is also missing 21 levels

[whole crypt]

buy more

[jade spire]

Black or white

[whole crypt]

both unless you have spare AFTCs/HPFCRs

you pasted 2 UvHs so I have no idea what you have on your FdG

[jade spire]

Oh sorry my bad

[viscid swift]

what options do you even have to work with

[whole crypt]

you could buy both shells and swap some gear around but it's hard to say whether you can clear this one

[whole crypt]

these are all junk scrap for parts

[jade spire]

Welp i take AL casual

[whole crypt]

then forget about EX

[jade spire]

Bruh...

[viscid swift]

well you get nothing for clearing it besides 500 cog chips

[whole crypt]

EX is somewhat on the difficult end of things, it's not something you bother with if you want to casual through the game

[viscid swift]

and it requires a bar minimum of optmization like +10 gear on all of your ships and maxed skills

[jade spire]

Any guns I should get from the core shop? Along with shells

[viscid swift]

which you have failed to meet

[whole crypt]

nothing that will really help this EX

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[fast steppe]

when doing strategic search to clear ap does repeating on a high corrosion zone give more drops or no

[jade spire]

I can manage the gears for fdg for now but not for musashi. Should I replace her with carrier?

[whole crypt]

generally the recommendation is to do the AP burn on c5 for cat node fishing

[viscid swift]

again, what ships do you have to work with exactly

[whole crypt]

unless you have a good set of carriers with converging TBs ready that wouldn't fix your problem with EX

[fast steppe]

c5 and c6 have the same node rates?

[jade spire]

These for carriers and BB

[whole crypt]

as far as we know yes

[fast steppe]

aight

[whole crypt]

or if c6 is higher, it's not higher by enough to offset the cost difference

[jade spire]

Essex, perseus is 125lvl and rumey is low lvl

[viscid swift]

yeah no

[whole crypt]

this will work if she had 26 more levels and if you had the planes

[jade spire]

Which plane?

[forest palm]

21 levels would work as well

[weary gust]

Tenrai, converging torp bombers. At +10 at least.

[whole crypt]

Ryuuseis, Ju-78 D-4s, black VIT-2s

[white agate]

i still have my opinions on c3; the month i did c5 i got 1-2 rainbow blueprints, the month i did c3 i got 0

[viscid swift]

and maxed skills

not just on her but everyone you use

[cobalt rapids]

maybe replace some1 for unicorn

[whole crypt]

at no point did I recommend c3, supposedly you get more dives/AP spent and they're all the same regardless of corrosion, but c3 takes a lot longer to burn

[jade spire]

Ok lemme pull em out of thin air🥲

[cobalt rapids]

probably musashi since shes the lowest lvl

[jade spire]

These ones ARE top tier equipments you are talking about

[viscid swift]

again, EX isn't exactly easy content, you need at least a bare minimum of effort to put in for it

[patent pivot]

Anyone have a screenshot of the warning popup when you turn on auto for the first time every day

[whole crypt]

they're not hard to get, you just never bothered to get them

[viscid swift]

nor is getting skills maxed out nor making sure all of your gear is +10

[jade spire]

Where do I get these plane again from?

[whole crypt]

there's not a lot of time for you to fix stuff and fight this EX, if you want to beat EX in the future you're going to need to be a little less casual

[whole crypt]

research, mostly

[jade spire]

Id atleast start building from now for future

[whole crypt]

and gear lab

[dusky vale]

is the farming gun from d3 good

[viscid swift]

start by giving that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[whole crypt]

I suspect you've also not been doing much OS so you're going to want to start that if you want to craft anything from lab

[raven canyon]

what auxillary equipments should i use on my CAs and CLs?

[viscid swift]

and getting all the skills of your relevant ships to level 10 and there levels to 120

[jade spire]

Well i just returned after months.

[viscid swift]

for quite a number of them it would worth getting them to 125

[jade spire]

Nvm thx🫡

[whole crypt]

generally 1 EVA aux + 1 toolkit

[cobalt rapids]

@jade spire run fdg uvh unicorn and for vanguard idk coz i dont see it but at least give em surv auxes

[raven canyon]

Alright thank you

[raven canyon]

oh does this goes for both type of ships?

[whole crypt]

he's asking to do EX, not really happening with what he has now

[cobalt rapids]

im talking about ex easy

[viscid swift]

yeah there's a lot of fundamentals that need fixing

[whole crypt]

he was doing easy

[cobalt rapids]

that is why i recommend unicorn

[viscid swift]

I don't think Unicorn is gonna help much here seeing as they timed out without her

[whole crypt]

even if he survives he'll probably just time out

also it's normal, there's no easy mode

[cobalt rapids]

did fdg and uvh rly time out with that setup

[whole crypt]

that's what he said, besides An Shan dying

the non-challenge mode EXs have all been massive meatbags anyway

[cobalt rapids]

yea theres no way it times out
i had almost 3 whole minutes left

their gears btw

[weary gust]

His skills aren't maxed and neither is his gear at +10

[cobalt rapids]

gear looks good enough for bbs to not time out

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/zWrcBJm.png is this BIS for any of the 2 new URs?

[sweet delta]

Confetti gun sub-5 minute clear? 🗣️ 🔥

[dusk maple]

Does it work with low tech?

[eager mulch]

I don’t think it’s BIS for fritz

[sweet delta]

I don't think it's bis for fritz rumey

[cobalt rapids]

considering the fight is 5min and this only need 2 i would say yes

[cobalt rapids]

its bis for any torp slot on auto

[sweet delta]

But they told me unicorn is trash for bossing

[fast steppe]

how do i use secret tickets

[cobalt rapids]

Memories>Secrets

[fast steppe]

thanks

[hexed fox]

anyone here worth building? wrapping up w11 or should I just wait for Y2? looking at going more into opsi which I’ve neglected

[sweet delta]

Depends on your other ships

Actually the answer is no

[forest palm]

stuff like Perseus, Ryuuhou, and Illustrious have value, but are contingent on various stipulations

[hexed fox]

Are those stipulations more focused on opsi or campaign?

[forest palm]

more so campaign in regards to world 14/15, stuff like Ryuuou would server as a secondary healer, Illustrious has a very specific use case in 15, Percy much the same as Illustrious, basically none of what you've shown could be used in the here, and now

[hexed fox]

Gotcha, thanks. Maybe I’ll drop some in the dorm for now

[forest palm]

[slow fox]

I'll do that calc later(tm)

[sweet delta]

Amagi cross fleet is too weak, so I lost 84 oil

[crystal bloom]

Need some LDPlayer settings help please. I looked through chat but couldn't find any particular settings.

I'm running 13-3 Hard and the FPS are horrible. I tried changing everything I could. Max core/ram usage and higher FPS settings for the emulator. Lowest screen res dpi. Lowest settings in AL. But airplane hell makes it run chunky compared to on my iphone. I've monitored PC's performance, never gets above 50% usage for its own CPU and memory.

Does anyone have a smooth gameplay experience for Azur Lane using emulators? Or is it just a game that can't be optimized?

[sweet delta]

Try different emulators like Mumu

[crystal bloom]

Tried BlueStacks, was laggy. Tried LDP which was better but still laggy.

Mumu any good?

[worldly pewter]

which cpu are u running ?

[eternal moth]

A lot of people say Mumu is the best, although I run LDPlayer

[worldly pewter]

but TBH i didn't find the 13-3 as annoying as the giga cv nodes in w15
they were giving me 1.5-2 fps

[crystal bloom]

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor, 3.70 GHz
32 GB ram
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070
Windows 11 Pro

[worldly pewter]

how are u lagging with this setup this doesn't make sense
are u sure u have hyperv enabled or something

[eternal moth]

I've noticed lag since switching to Win11, although it doesn't just affect my emulator. Even videos on Youtube I've noticed some in

Running a 7900X, I don't think it's a CPU issue.

[worldly pewter]

i m running a 2nd gen intel here

[eternal moth]

Personally, I think there may be a scheduler issue in WIndows that may only affect AMD CPUs

[crystal bloom]

yep running Hyper-V

[worldly pewter]

go to the task manager in the processor tab check there

[eternal moth]

There have been enough performance bugs with Win 11 that it wouldn't surprise me.

[crystal bloom]

Says Virtualization: Enabled.
This is performance when running emulator on 13-3

[worldly pewter]

yeah something is weird in ur case imo
i m sure with that setup in w13h u shouldn't be having any issues
it isn't close to the w15 cv node

[crystal bloom]

So Windows 11 performance with AMD processor might be issue I guess.

I updated my video card. I guess only other thing I can do is see if there are any windows updates I need to install.

I'll try that and Mumu

Thanks for you're help everyone.

[worldly pewter]

[crystal bloom]

MEmu emulator, right? Is it safe?

[sweet delta]

mUmu

[crystal bloom]

weird, I don't get any search results for that. Keeps bringing up MEmu

[upbeat wagon]

LDP was more so resource intensive rather than laggy, but Mumu was similar too

[eternal moth]

https://www.mumuplayer.com/

[crystal bloom]

Thanks. No idea why my searches were so bad. weird.
edit: would have helped it I had spelled "emulator" correctly, lol

[undone plover]

can anyone explain torpedo jamming for me pls
how does it fit in the queue

[spring bolt]

tank, middle, off tank

usually only matters for preloads, if you manually hold torps, the order is first cool down launches first iirc

[forest palm]

pretty simplistic

[weary gust]

I didn't even know there was a term for that. Thought it was so obvious I never bothered to consider it a concept worth thinking about.

[forest palm]

as a concept it exists in BB salvos, and CV launches as well

[weary gust]

With mainfleet at least it isn't as clear who would fire first in a team of preloads, whether flagship is considered first or if it also goes left-right in the formation order.

[forest palm]

Flagship always launches first in that case, I forget who goes second though

[viscid swift]

I think it's above flag who goes next

[forest palm]

so the term is more "jamming"

[dusk maple]

I honestly thought they meant the bug where the torpedo will be jammed if the ship before it sinks in the middle of launching its torps

[forest palm]

come to think of it my current CV build has jamming in it

[jaunty vault]

we jammin?

[forest palm]

read up

[soft dagger]

[sweet delta]

with foxhound

i guess comet has dps

[soft dagger]

oo. ill try foxhound

[viscid swift]

unfortunately I am not that far down the DD tech list yet

[soft dagger]

no?

[sweet delta]

the 3 elites survive for too long with foxhound amagi, but perhaps La9 unicorn could kill them faster

[clever lance]

Which shipgirl is wearing the red dress on the main screen now?

[sweet delta]

/wiki daisen

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Daisen
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Daisen/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Daisen/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Learning_Ships_of_the_World_with_Mikasa_Dai-Senpai

Dec 28, 2024, 7:57 PM

[undone plover]

hey sry wasnt here
I meant do torps jam mainline

[clever lance]

What outfit is she wearing

[chrome frigate]

what is the difference between decisive and priority ships in research?

[sweet delta]

go to the shop

[stark quiver]

the UR and SR of research

[sweet delta]

rainbow (cost more blueprints) vs gold

[chrome frigate]

OH i didnt realise that i overlooked it x.x

[clever lance]

Thanks

[chrome frigate]

is kearsage series 6 worth doing (for some reason i keep getting alot of eagle union) after i finish doing roon? Which would make roon my 2nd completed ship from research when done

[atomic abyss]

series 6 is the lowest prio of all the relevant series (4-7)
so no

go get fdg from series 2 first and anchorage from series 4
then get the rest of series 4
then series 5
then 7

[chrome frigate]

wow is series 6 THAT bad O_O? and ty let me just screen shot this to remember

[atomic abyss]

it's more of, other series are just better

[crimson glacier]

research is big time commitment

[barren tapir]

series 6 is full of good but niche and overshadowed ships (mostly)

hinden is just a big load of damage
kears doesnt rlly work at all in campaign and only shines in yk2 antilight teams
shimanto is amazing for ch15
felix is good and interesting but really got overshadowed hard by laffey2 and now z52 on top
flandre is a good gold but is directly overshadowed by alsace

just as a quick rundown

[soft raft]

Flandre is also overshadowed by every UR/DR BB that isnt called Warspite retro like all the other PR BBs are

[barren tapir]

well yes, but not as much imo since preload with 3mgm would still be useful sometimes, but alsace stole that job and did it much better

[cobalt rapids]

technically yes
theres an order in the UI that the buttons go off when u press auto and all are available
but it looks more insignificant compared to same queue abs
and there was also a case iirc for modney where aegir couldve sabotaged the main but this was talk ive never confirmed it myself

[chrome frigate]

honestly wouldve never known most of this since i usually just go by who ever 'looks' the shiniest or rarest must be the best XD

[forest palm]

always will say skip 6 go to 7

[white agate]

would a howe augment make her reach ur bb levels in bossing?

[crimson glacier]

highly unlikely

[barren tapir]

how about a ruppy augment for mobbing

[forest palm]

it really depends on what Howe's UE would do

[crimson glacier]

i mean sure they can do anything with augs but it would have to be insanely op aug

[forest palm]

the bar is FdG, we have had like a good handful of SSR BBs that are closing in on that bar

[crimson glacier]

i dont think FDG is UR levels in bossing

[forest palm]

again it really depends on the UE itself

[viscid swift]

better to just wait and see rather than speculate

[forest palm]

[polar venture]

Would I rather have nano, amagi, or fritz on mob/boss?

[viscid swift]

for what content exactly

[polar venture]

I dunno the toughest contest in game

[viscid swift]

well what would you define as the toughest content in the game, not to mention a lot of the tougher content is just single target bosses

[stark quiver]

if i had to choose
amai nano in boss
fritz in support fleet

[rigid onyx]

Gameplay in al is fleet building so asking what ships to have on your singular endgame fleet is like asking what loadout you should have in Dark Souls to beat a boss by pressing only the W key

[forest palm]

great analogy honestly

[polar venture]

Behold!!! My general boss and mob for everything

[tropic tusk]

Who is this?

[stark quiver]

zuihou

[viscid swift]

yeah you clearly haven't done anything that challenging if you think that'll work as a "general" fleet

[ashen crow]

I have an sr bulin but can’t limit break an sr ship with it, anyone knows why?

[tropic tusk]

Rip no way of getting her now

[polar venture]

You're right I haven't but that's why I'm here 🙂

[crimson glacier]

odin flag sure is something to see

[stark quiver]

is it locked? over lvl 1?

[ashen crow]

Over level 1

I do commissions with it

[stark quiver]

tap the top right button on limit break screen, should have a ">1"

[ashen crow]

Alr ty

[viscid swift]

again though the question stands, for what content
or rather what are you planning to tackle next

[polar venture]

W13 and 14

[viscid swift]

if you can MLB them, ritz replaces Odin in the mob fleet for W13
and Amagi replaces Soyuz or Alsace

you'll want to make a host of other improvements for W14 though

and get better AA in the mob fleet for W13 as well

[stark quiver]

sandy should be able to carry right? unless thats pre retro

[polar venture]

She's in boss team.
@viscid swift who do you recommend?

[viscid swift]

well I don't know who you have

[polar venture]

mob and boss teams for w13-14

[crystal bloom]

@worldly pewter @sweet delta @upbeat wagon @eternal moth
Follow up. Running 13-3 Hard on MuMu it its great. Nice and smooth. Thanks for the help.

[little tree]

Does fp affect all out barrage dmg ?

[viscid swift]

depends on what the barrage scales off of

if it does scale off of FP stat then yes

[little tree]

Lala s

[viscid swift]

all of her barrages scale off of FP so yes

[crystal bloom]

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the character image when using planes and barrages? I love my waifus but they take up the whole screen, its going to get me killed.

[barren tapir]

nope

[turbid dawn]

Question, for Z52 is the single 113 or the the UR twin 100 better for her? Idk how her FP compares to her barrage dmg (which one scales better ig)

[stark quiver]

i take it youre doing ex?

[crystal bloom]

Its always bothered me, but yeah I'm on 13-4 Hard and there is just too much going on.

[barren tapir]

this is the hidden balancing mechanic between UR ships and low rarity ships

[crystal bloom]

Yorktown II, Perseus, and New Jersey just have asses.
Although maybe the wedding skin is too big?

[forest palm]

this sounds very.... #al-general

[crystal bloom]

Initial question was just "hey is there a setting to disable it" but saadly not.

[viscid swift]

and that was fine but then you added that

[forest palm]

[copper ermine]

Will there be a way to get hipper metas crystals after the event?

[viscid swift]

yes, they'll be added to the META shop soon after

[queen jackal]

u can disable some backgrounds but not fully

[mild crest]

Which ship is better for mob tank between Scylla and Jervis?

[barren tapir]

jervis. scylla isnt remotely a tank