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I don't ever remember Warspite retrofit being brought up seriously for ch13
ch12 is like whatever
Yes
Is chapayev good?
close to 3 years ago i started playing and people were already saying warkai bad
She's okay
West Virginia and Colorado are decent as well, but I think Nelson's better, right?
saratoga and nelson is not who I would assume would be good retrofit
Wasnt she good for off-flag bossing or was that also cope I read?
Decent after aug but realistically I never really found a use for her
FdG happened but even before that a lot of players already managed Monarch
oh I was told that too
Solid enough yes, especially if you don't have much better options.
Sara's retro is fairly old, but she got an augment recently that really bumped her up
I got the other retrofits except sara and nelson anyone else?
even before augment Saratoga retrofit is rather solid
I used her to clear chapter 13 and, I think, chapter 14
DDGs if you have them probably (An Shan and Chang Chun)
Can't really think of more retrofit right now.
what
shes a mobber, entys a bosser
sara is extremely heavy mob focus loadout with mob supportive barrages
i think my cv comp for maihou is oneshot capable cause one scan drops her to 66 bars and all torps hit
sara is decent at bossing for heavy iirc, but lite is kinda pushing it yea
There's a number but just focus on your 2 main fleets right now
Saratoga was UR level for kirov meta 
Sara not being able to equip TBs hurts her for bossing, but double DB is great for mobs
she has desynced damage (3 different things, her CA gun shots, her barrage planes, and her actual planes) with aoe focus on all of them lol
I retrofit all the starter dd, not an and chang tho
She can be good in certain bosses but yeah not a traditional bosser
Wasn't there like a tech involving Sara in w13 boss or something?
Something about one shooting the command ship I think.
can saratoga hvar double skyraider beat enty in light
As a reminder, this is their dock
What is this, a dock for ants?
there was a tech for w13 boss? from day 1 i was told the only 2 strats is have enough aa or bomb them fast enough that you dont need aa 
sara is decent at bossing but she is primarily a mobber. ive used her for bossing just cos until i raise enty she kinda is my best syncable (indep is too zoom) raised cv after amagi lol, she performs decent but doesnt excel
cheeky's just multitasking 
is there a priority list? i remember seeing it somewhere
/plus13
tho I dont agree with everything on it 
I SWEAR there was something involving Saratoga retrofit lmao
i think she does pretty decent in this meta she rivals amagi but i dont have shinano or a slow/stop yet fwiw
at least new player perspective.
sara is hella good for newbies but enty lite is deffo pushing it
what map is the best for farming golden steam catapult? D2 northern overture or D3 fallen wings?
farming for equip (in WA) is not a thing
None
Open tech boxes for em
uh mirror involution d3 i think
but just farm it from tech box or research and save yrself oil
ye smth about her launch syncing well on auto to taihou's command ship spawn and nuking it from orbit
which only worked bc sara is slow as fuck. that spawned the sarat0ga memes
campaing bossing yes
OS bossing not really
Tbh there is not a singular enty
We have 0% enty
100% enty
average enty
And ykii boosted enty 
jokes on them cos sara is t0 now
This is my alt's current fleet. Sara is the goat.
Right, thanks for the reminder.
its really not too bad, ive used her in opsi before when i was newer
arnd t1 performance
T1 is kind of meh given the number of CVs we have in T0
oh and PR I was/am currently working on fdg(I think that's her acronym) but I assume not all PR is worth doing since it takes a looooooooooooooong time to complete a season
ill love to see the carnage sara can do with double tenrais but im a long way off from that. im sure she'll do great but still fall short of average enty
thats why i said decent 
against heavy she's naturally disadvantaged without TBs
I might have an old SS in here somewhere from Kirov META
I need a guide on pr to refresh how to do research in the lab and the like too
tbf isnt the only cv that is base purple besides sara up there indep? not counting unicorn cos she's a healer
For reference this is enty boosted to max power (credit: renhex
)
you could argue sara is in no way close to her 
i would not really consider t1 range meh 
yes but notice the mob tag
just gotta wait for the lexington-class buffers to show up. enty is getting cheerleadered pretty damn hard here lol
general reminder if you're using ectl, tags are requirements to be in said tier, otherwise they're worth less
owari da biggest damage when rng says yes
I swear if I ever save up enough to buy a skin I will buy it using my apologems without a doubt after using story gems to buy second floor dorm and more dock spaces
what i mean is she is still a really good cv, t1 performance or no. hard to say meh when she's close to golds and rainbows in performance in a role she isnt good at
If you're F2P do yourself a favor and forget about skins. More dock space is always going to be helpful. If you start spending, THEN you can get whatever skins you want.
also pretty sure she could do good work for ch14 bosses since those are basically fatass mobfights with a lot of heavy armor targets
since I got a pc that can hand multiple programs I can have al in the background farming now without it affecting my daily use
current oneshots for my cv are 0/15, can i get a 1% 
I am getting a l2d skin one way or another
is taiho meta on paper good? idr the consensus
Hard without more rld tech imo
U need to fit in helena windows
shes like worse than base taihou+augment
From what I've heard, majorly meh
so decent at best
oh
im skipping her then
+1 avi tech tho iirc (wow taihou L)
triple beacon will let helena fit in all 3 strikes
But that AVI tech tho
are any meta shipgirl good? I have then in my docks just siting there, they add to tech points right?
Yep here
Why would u skip when meta have their own dock now 
but first i need triple beacon so next year 
why skip when coggies
meta shipdock is separate (and free)
nagato meta is a high end gold mobbing bb if you lack URs
i dont have coords for her cuz i dont do opsi often
Realistically they're all tech fodder
Elite ones are universally dogshit and the gold ones can be summed up as "Good but better options exist"
nice nice ty 
very true i basically replaced nagato meta with ruppy in a couple weeks 
why make meta then? they are a failure to their names if they are weaker than their base forms
and UR bbs would blow her out of the water for sure
Isn't Magato better though?
for fun

The "META" in their name is a faction name, not META as in really good
ruppy performs better for me from what ive seen 
also not having a stupid fleet req that makes me unable to use nagato meta with my best cv
metamorphosis is a real word and I'm pretty sure that is what they were going for
they know what they were doing when they made the name Meta
since ruppy and nagato meta are my best bbs overall...their bossing matters to me too, and ruppy is better from what ive seen, especially because no fleet requirement

META is short for metamorphosis
It's lore related
#al-lore if you want to know more about it
i have both at 125 and maxed, im not sure about any particular bias since i like both, but ive been using ruppy more often in general 
Ruppchrext isn't bad per say
Just she comes at a point usually when you have much better
Where is your FdG 
my dumbass thought you meant repulse meta
more importantly pink hair nagami sensei would be proud
i don't like fdg much
waifu > meta
Pretty sure nagami only likes Sara lmao
SR bbs also started getting rather uninteresting around that time
nah, nagami was making pink fleets some time back
Who's that in the middle, DoY?
hey hey i like the funny torps
pretty sure nagami went over to mika
seeing a wall of torps just come out of nowhere every 10s is pretty funny
I mean as a WoWs player personally, I was really disappointed by Ruppchrect
but the scissors
fair though, idk anything about wows but research ships come from there right 
You have a monster at mid range with a spam small caliber guns and torps
Good bear aux gear for z52?
And yet we got a BC that's relatively standard
Usual DD auxes
Does it have to be a bear?
Double toolkit is the usual
Typical DD Auxes if you don't have the 550 HP Gold Auxes
well she does have the gun and the torp 
Kms did references a job for fdg as conductor, ruppy for a tailor?
Shipyard is basically AL collab with WoWs
Funny that im a suit tailor my self 
is flandre good
AL takes the paper ship shenanigans of wows and adapts it to AL is what i heard
she's not UR
She is decent tho
Preload + mgm3
fun to use but well there are rainbows
So there is better ship than Flandre
Literally
Seem like there only few SR ships viable in end game contents
what about shimanto
excellent AA carry
AA demon
She's an Alsace Hull but with Triple Main guns instead of Quads
difference between viable and best in slot
many ships are viable to some degree, very few are best in slot
There is alot viable
Just not competitive with rainbows
good enough to be solo aa carry?
ppl somehow get the two mixed up
at this point i js assume cheeky knows every ship facts 
Yeah, not competitive with rainbows, still good replacement if doesnt have UR tho
nah makes sense if he plays WoWs since flandre comes from there 
Probably one of the best gold BB yeah
One day someone will rank gold BB 
great ship
buy her secret
besides shimanto and sandy retro are there any other notable aa carries in the game?
Guam
laff2
shortlist would be like
daisen
owari
flandre
yami
ruppy
nagato meta
constellation
probably some more
not in that order, but those feel like theyd top the list of golds to me
Z52 and Laffey 2
How many ships with great AA use for w15?
there's...a hell of a lot of bbs on thinking of it LOL
will laffey 2 rerun? i wasnt there when she dropped
I have heard tamaki as well
And iirc fubuki from senran kagura was also highly rated
But might be old news now
A week after this event wait no
In around 1 year most likely
also, and im just going off i think it was a suchi video i saw, but hood augment prolly good too considering i saw a ch15 clear of only gold ships or under that included her as mob flag
im still not a hood believer until i cba to make her aug and test her myself, though
Yes, Hood's augment is very good.
is felix schultz good for mob fleet
Tbh u can even argue for duke of york if she is supporting 5 rainbows in bossing 
Sounds like a Jimmy vid
i have hood 120 and im getting plenty of aug mats these days so itll happen at some point
i really want hood believers to be right honestly
are they even sound alike, surely not
oh it mightve been jimmy i am not sure
i watch both of them
is jimmy not misinfo?
his christmas vid was funny
anyways, who even would you guys say are the reliable youtubers
honestly im suprised musashi doesnt have her own aug yet
stig maybe
i dont think he is misinfo, it's more like his content is very endgame oriented and 'don't try this at home, kids' style
i mean stig posts speedruns n stuff like that, so cant be not reliable
always take everything with a grain of salt, especially paper calcs, tho
there's basically no good youtuber out there if the person doesn't also do gph stuff here or maybe on ectl
suchiguma 
ectl 
Sushi also does in-depth guides sometimes
His mid game hard arbiter and w15 vids are pretty good and informative
the problem is most vid posters is they're after generating engagement, not just making guides
Also vids get outdated
as for jimmy i think he's a bad starting point for newbies but he is interesting to watch and does some cool shit, just take it with a grain of salt
imagine the vids being even right to start with, forget becoming outdated

too many of the names you hear are just there to generate engagement because revenue
the content is shit
i can make vids since i actually have gear to do so although itll just be like a video version of sam guides
ngl wish i could refund the time i spent watch kimo
How good is hood augment? Enough to make her able to compete against another T1 bb ships?
videos are after all just one persons opinions being broadcasted to the public in a way that'll reach more ppl than usual
gph works because there's like 20 peoples opinions being debated so that only the best opinion prevails
i only watch for entertainment, and sometimes cross reference info
i don't have new content to bring aside from my dubiously effective cooking
and dont worry my guides dont have misinfo
it's not just the debating, you can have a take but you can still be right and not post shitty clickbait
extremely good... for mobbing
not bossing
Alot of stuff is also it depends
Which doesnt make for interesting vids 
i can see why kimo does the "is x event worth to farm?" series
she's decent
i only look for L2D skin interaction vids since i'm lazy to figure em out
if you want an interesting vid just go watch the JP streams
clickbait is only shitty to me if the video doesn't deliver on it. im not too sure on jimmy but i've usually left his videos feeling pretty satisfied honestly so
meanwhile kimo makes me facepalm about 5 times per minute and he isnt even entertaining
jimmy isn't usually (wildly) wrong but he's also not particularly useful for early/mid game guide
the issue with jimmy is that a lot of his stuff isnt applicable to the average player
his stuff is applicable to jimmy
Oh if I could name names some of the people I've watched are just ughhh
he isnt even very applicable to the average late game player
ive always taken his content as "don't try this at home, kids"
a lot of his guides only apply to like, tech min maxers
admiral neldrin moment
he makes me feel sad about my tech yes
like dont put statstick aa gun on your vanguard for taihou meta fights, ye
these and the new ship voicelines videos are godsends ngl
The single worst take I've heard from anyone is that the Mk7 is the best BB gun in the game and has the highest alpha damage of any BB gun in the game
this is why i watch kimo because i can do better with my account
Points if anyone figures our who said that
that's an idea...watch kimo to feel better about myself
whats a good gear setup for her
might give that a go
you either learn the game or you learn to copy, except finding a good source to copy from tends to be a problem
i beat kimos ex score and im kinda proud of that
Did I even say this
thank you
first time I hit up EX semi-seriously in about a year or so this one isn't that hard
I know people are worse than both...
yea this one was pretty easy to dodge,
tho beating ๐ ๐ฑ was a bigger challenge
just3c bad?
Thank you for reminding me J3C has a video about farming for gems
which stage do i repeat sortie to farm tokens?
SP 1x a day, then D3
D3
do i use the 2x oil consumption?
J3c hasnt posted in a year or so, so he's less of a worry
only if you lack play time
Damn
Can also do 1 time on A and B maps for the x3 reward but use cheap oil fleet
damn i wanna see that LOL
was it about 2-1 by any chance
do you lose anything from doing 2x oil?
does u get more tokens if u dont?
faster morale loss
it is 2 runs combined in one run
U lose the tickets which u should save for a time when u cant play a lot
but i would still do 2 runs eventually which would lose me the same morale no? or is that not how it works
its more like a time saver
2x means 2x everything, so unless you need to burn through a lot of oil and fleets and you wanna keep "playing"al for longer, you better not use em
consider this, in the time it takes to do 2 runs, you also restore morale during that period
and with the dorm, it's enough to squeeze in an extra 4-5 runs
i save heclps for rerun events with good gear, like yk2s rerun
but yeah since it drains everything twice as fast you'll have morale upkeep issues if you play over a long period
is there a need to optimize how many runs you do a day?
if you don't have the time just use it
if you have the time then doesn't really matter
Not to mention if you want to maintain the XP bonus from high morale it's rather useless
i usually just log on every half hour to an hour to just do a op si run and a d3 run
tbh i have not even used a single* HELP to date lol
at least do hard mode
No it was just him telling the viewer ways to get gems but titled as if you can farm them
? is d3 not hard mode?
if you can log on every half hour then you're probably fine spending up the HELPs, assuming you have a good number of them
clickbait video par for the course
campaign hard mode
campaign hard mode
oh yeah i already did those
but it's not any different from just tapping repeat every 10-15 min
i have 474
just wondering, how good is isuzu for ch13
I used her back in the day
i usually spend that time hopping on a different game and doing dailies ๐
very good if you have the damage to make up for it
if you have time around a PC it's easier to just leave the game on an emulator
Good but you need dps to compensate for her lack of doing anything but aa
it is easy to forget she is better than sandy kai pre aug with her AA...
the issue is that she has LITERALLY nothing else going for her
she's better for standalone AA
keep in mind San Diego also has fleet AA buff so it scales with the AA capacity of the other ships
sandy kai's DPS even pre aug is decent enough to help you end battles faster
with isuzu you could end up dragging the battle length
Yep. Isuzu's damage is pretty bad.
on the assumption that you compare either of them used with say, 2 IJN shitter DDs that have no AA then Isuzu does better, but yes you can end up with longer fights that offsets the advantage with the poor DPS
ironically isuzu can't hit like a truck yes
does hard EX normally instakill your frontline or am i doing something wrong
Truck-kun NOOOO!!!
if used with 2 moderately AA capable ships then Sandy's buff then Sandy's total contribution can be bigger than Isuzu
Skill issue. You HAVE to manual and avoid everything
you can do funnier AA dmg fishing with her ofc
someone paste him the hard boss stats
time to ignore EX then
just do normal
technically no
9999 hit does that
just clear normal EX and get that chips
Just do easy EX
9999 hit and whatever FP
yeah i completed easy EX
you could survive one hit on lv125 ships... but it's like, just 1 hit
chips and go 
like thiis
also depends on which bullet you get hit by
heavy right
eld proced manjuu after one bullet passed thru her
very balanced boss 
average ex boss
welcome to EX hard mode
just need to add homing for the complete package
it's why we say old EX and now EX hard is basically playing touhou
where like, just over 40 players on each server cleared during amagi event
is there an EX video?
it was the standard before they made easy version
yeah im never gonna touch this ever again even if it handed me gems for clearing it
ditto
my dude, just clear ex normal and be done with it
there were quite a few easier ones along the way
dont need one, just go inbetween the thingies
yeah he cleared easy
im talking about hard EX ender
EX hard for amagi event had like 41 or 42 players clear it on avrora
like do the boss move a lot
so uh...
youre amagi?
URamagi event
breh cant read
completely stationairy
so cel, i dont think you're in the top 40 players group
the boss doesn't move, at all
so dont bother
wtf gatekeeping
man I don't have level 1 kaza or sirius or helena
i'm probably top 40 ||from bottom||
points to whoever takes away umis 3rd place spot in amagi
what do you get again? 5k?
500 chips, but if you done easy then hard nothing (aside from scoreboard)
Hard mode is fun if u want to learn manual skills 
BBs better than CV for hiryuu meta? 0/3 so far
hiryuu has planes so...
Show gear 
its the same as my maihou
hiryuu is also medium armor
Hiryuu's pretty easy, so I don't know why you aren't killing it. Are your planes +13?

Actually with amagi torpedo buff that might make sense
no freeze in the fleet, probably missed some airstrikes? I forgot if hiryuu moves a lot
Fritz prefers to use CL gun right?
this except more offensive aux
Use AvP instead of Hakuryu
is it worth using a non mlb guam as my meta tank over ancho if guam has her skills maxed
What dev is Ancho?
fs5
do you have a lvl 1 nagato?
Which META
taihou
Triple roomba's a pretty big problem. Do you have any rainbow AA?
STAAG AA gun vs single target
CL maybe for mobbing
You don't need a proper tank for Taiho
yes 1
nah unfortunate
Give that to Kaza then. Helena can keep the roomba, give Eld something quicker as well.
Check medal shop, next month too
other than helena and shima i don't know who else can offer offensive utility on vg
Do you have Unzen or nah?
no
who do i take out eld for then
wrong reply but right person
Mind throwing a screenshot of your strongest VG?
You could try Sirius, that might work.
Uhhh anyone with good damage against medium armor and is decently tanky
Not sure what u mean by shima 
Plymouth for BB/kearsarge
sirius for CV
Any ship with ARA skill for CV
These are the usual suspects
alr sirius or sandy or ply
gg they removed operation rainbow, no wonder can't proc sh
shima gives almost as much dmg as my carriers
no laff2 no eld
How good is Fritz in current meta?
Uhhh Sandy I guess to maintain concealment
very meh
she is meh for heavy armour
Sedge
use any other UR CV or enty instead
Well Kazagumo if you use CVs is a no-brainer
Oh mb u just meant offensive capability
Yeah there is a bunch but usually buffing backline is better than having a dps ship in frontline
If the next meta is medium or light she'll probably be one of the best options.
that said you also dont want too much ships for high score ex
Alsace vs vanguard vs New Jersey vs Bismarck zwei, which is better?
For what
Very depends on the situation but it's likely not NJ
alsace = bis zwei > vanguard > new jersey for most intents and purposes
What is Fritz good at then?
What boss
med and light armour
Medium and light armor
medium armor bossing
w15 support fleet
Idk, what about just generally or overall performance
...i think ill just use BBs, i have 6/7 for them anyway
could i run smth like this then
She replaces anyone for vs Light/med?
That's pretty vague, Zwei is probably the safest bet.
Vanguard is a support oriented one to help other BBs.
soy nakh rumey for med
for light, it depends on whether you have nakh really
Do you not have Shinano or Amagi CV
Well what do your have to work with
What does Nyak do in light?
Which places to farm for good gears?
6 rocket fighters + slow/freeze
operation siren - you dont farm campaign for gears
Is Alsace support as well?
She does have some supportive capability but she's not a support oriented one. She's a DPS first.
Deym, Alsus and Bizwei dethroned already for light huh
Ic strongholds then?
uh, no, CVs have been better at light for a VERY long time already
I'm pretty sure York2 has always been ahead.
Which is a good main gun for Alsace?
depends on the boss
BB slander
strongholds and abyssals and normal arbiter
Ah yea I forgor Eagle
Vanguard, UvH, Enterprise, Helena, Shimakaze, Yuudachi I guess
Thanks 
Everything
musashi use daisen gun for w15 is fine right
Should also be keeping on top of research if you aren't already
What's this month's Arbi again? Haven't touche yet
Heavy
I don't have a team that can clear strongholds but I can clear upto abyssal 5
You can just exit and heal in port for strongholds and come back without losing progress
Oh ic didn't know that
Also make sure to clear all exploration modes each month and get what you need from the shops
On top of your dailies and using all of your Ap
I get the rainbow things in shop only
You should be getting a lot more
Which?
does uvh want flag or off flag? ik she normally goes off but would she want to sync her max damage with helena?
off flag
she still syncs with helena
it just means she now fires at 10s and 20s now
Gold plates, gold parts, and T2 Ordinance Reports at least
2 scan 457s with BB kills hiryuuM in 3 salvos, beautiful 
What is a good way to form my fleets?
Ok
Plus a lot more if you haven't been buying anything else from the shops
Also make sure keep on top Of PR research as well
I think my gears are in a bad shape
That's the 2nd biggest source of gear in late game
What content are u trying to do?
Again, for what content exactly
I'm still lagging
Opsi
Well just what you've shown isn't enough to form cohesive fleets
in a thread
implacable shinano and hakuryuu in one fleet with [tank,kazagumo,sirius]
bis2,alsace,newjeresy in another, with [tank,helena, plymouth]
very questionable composition, so yes needs some tweaking
What to do?
Ok
Ok
yea thats better idea
In this fleet, would swapping implac with amagicv be better or no difference?
Haku would be the one you tend to replace
You replace haku with Amagi, not Implac
Ahhhh i see, i will do that then
Having the stop is worth a lot more than the slight damage increase you might get
id only replace implac if i have eldrige/any other slow + boss doesnt move a lot
Implac's stop means more torps are likely to hit
if i get haku to d30 do i make any changes
Use Hakuryu over Enterprise yes
Is it possible to get these in opsi just clearing stages or are they time gated by shops and I just have to snag them in the shop every month
aight
It is possible
But they're quite rare
4 gaurenteed from harby and shop
rest is rng
rare meowfficer nodes can drop those i think
Opsi team composition
When is the UR event ending?
next thursday reset
2/11 for BBs against hiryuuM, same comp as last time, why it broke 
Rng
sth sth helena?
Should you always open Gear packs asap?
prob helena
craft them up to purple then open
open all gold and above packs too
geo. acc also probably went bad
Isn't hiryuu medium, just use CVs
CV didnt work
i used 3 bb with 0 tech and one shot
btw when on the meta timer does helena proc? 1:00 0:40 0:20?
with her aug mod, izumo is good now?
one of the best non UR mobbing BBs
Can you compose the purple ones to rare?
no
every 20s
with sg is first 16 then every 20
helenaless worked once
making barrage guarantee really changes it eh, on top of basically a big 7 barrage? 
She has no gimmicks ? Should be a easy clear
do we get tech for making bullion 120?
meta timer looks like it starts at 1:27 though
but sometimes i see her trigger at 0:00
other than the manju curling and the few event missions, where do i get enough UR vouchers for the 2nd Z52 in the shop?
helena timer is based on battle start
the gun loading/airstrike timing only begins 3s in tho
applies to all
exchange with event currency
Use a better CV comp then 
you do need to consider she isnt nearly as good for dealing with bosses
no strong focused portion
yeah sounds right, but being specialist on one side (mobbing) is already good no?
sounds so wrong tho running UR for mobbing
how?
ah right thanks. is the second one worth it though or just use the UR bulins?
worth
i still can't keep track which UR BB better on mobbing
musashi is the best BB for campaign period
theres 8 UR BBs in total wdym
their dmg is so high i felt even boss specialist can work
outside musashi
uvh and fdg shine in mobbing more
vanny for BB boss teams more
the rest dont really care
i thought uvh is for bossing from the slow, or you care more on time syncing with other backliners?
musashi biszwei alsace soyuz vanguard fdg uvh nj
lol no, you use bis2's black hole or even soyuz
how do you farm exp books?
use level 100+ ships in battle
u dont u earn them passively my bad u do
so just run smth like bis2 NJ vanny or smth for boss?
for opsi boss? yeah
but NJ has long since been powercrept
so alsace then
best BB boss team for now is Bis2 Soyuz Alsace
lmao ig vanny also rot out
the frontline pressure ramps up massively during the last 10s of hiryuuM which has caused a couple of my runs to flop because my BBs fire until 4s left
vanny's support is unparalleled, but her own DPS isnt that remarkable
It depends on boss 
Alsace is also a really strong mobber for op si if you're willing to slot in vanguard lol
alsace is usualy better on non CM content
Vanguard on boss and Alsace on mobbin
Straight up nukes strongholds in solo mode too
Or just use any UR BB
I think that preemptive shot does wonders tho ๐ญ
that's why you use preload CVs
Uni has preload and thatโs more then sufficient
cough unicorn
Eww
With 12K do i get the all the gear first in event shop?
check the pins
Overthinking it too much , BBs are CVโs bitch in opsi anyway
my BB fleet hits all armor good in opsi 
Have fun dealing with any FP shields 2/3 months in opsi
Isnโt this months harby heavy?
yep
Cause that shit gets can get one strike by Sakura 
I'm gonna start raising level 1 buffers so I can get top 3 in EX
i use nano haku avp for my CV
My mobbing fleet did about 40 bars on the boss this month loll
havent change to amagi for opsi and test yet
Should be doing more than just 39 bars w that fleet
how much is 1 gold item worth in EX?
Sounds like a gear fuck up
Only 39 bars doesn't seem right
I run the same mob fleet but is considering changing Alsace to UvH
dann idk 1 strike with CV, but I did 1 CV fleet for harby this month
Even with that comp you should easily be able to do 38 bars with one airstrike
What gear for one strike?
Ask suchi, thatโs his thing
after i finish dailies ill try harby again with amagi shinano avp
Just use ark 
I didn't run anything special for my one strike fleet, just the usual loadout.
Boomers used avp cause they already have enough damage , she is consistency . Newer players donโt have the sheer firepower , so you use ark who does ,more damage
My vanguard was Napoli, Kaza, Eld
Ark+Eldridge against heavy yeah
I can go again, maybe it was a fluke.
Right I messed up the term
Right makes more sense
That's on me lmao sorry guys
well i dont have ark yet 
back to +9 helldiver for this 
I'd rather use Hakuryu
Just triple sakura that backline , Eldridge is fine for hermit
Btw Sirius should be tank no?
Eldridge survives hermit
that's the huge missiles in the last 3 seconds
the front lived but nano died before last strike went through
your vanguard died, not shinano
Oh that
that's a lot of builds
Do you really need AVP when you already have Eld
in that case both died at the same time
Well for one don't ever roll for dupes in the future
ok this is weird, was trying to improve my ex score by swapping Helena to a lv1 copy but for whatever reason I'm stuck with like 15 bars left 
maybe his rich
Also, which PR pack did you buy to get Izumo
Please tell me you didn't do a billion rolls and just got 3 Rumey in your last x10 build
it's finally time to recommend the whale new player strat, they have all four PRs
The 10 dollar one or 16 dollar one
yea I'm also stuck with that
Oh rolled 2x Rumey on pity
Didn't think anyone would actually follow through with it
BBs did 46 bars still 
the thing is I have no idea what's accounting for the 15 bars or so
I can't tell if this is better or worse than my hypothetical situation.
use ara or bristol or kent
was your Izumo PR1 pack the $10 or $16 one?
well I don't have any lv1 ARAs
All the PR packs for that matter
Just buy a ariake :)
really? I thought you need her retro
doesn't work, Ariake's ARA needs retrofit
Damn that sucks 
you'll have to game Kent or Clevebro
Benson works
You can try to snipe one of the Royal navy rares
hm do I have a lv1 Benson...
2000 right
no answers to the real questions
Am I just being ignored
I am very confused.
sushi must be a pro emoter lol
sorry I'll do later, I have to 15%
gn cheeky
(might change pfp again soon)
Anyway get Unicorn raised up she's amazing.
well you still need to level the skill a tad
damn cheeky is ignoring me now ๐ข
Good night turtle
๐
Which packs did you purchase to get the PR ships
ah well I already have a good score just wanted a better one if it worked 
what score are you aiming for?
This is important info as one gives you the resources to max them, the other does not
Izumo, Unicorn, Enterprise, Anchorage, Kitakaze, Cheshire then
richi/alsace/vanny + helena. you'll need two +13 yamato gun tho, dunno if only 1 on alsace is enough.
what happened to fritz
Also do still give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
this works? how many points? I'm truly done with clevebro
One bullin short still
is that still with lv1 Helena at 20s
#media-content message need high tech
but that's not even 6k...
#trophy-room message how are you all getting over 5k score 
well I managed my 6.3k one-rounding with carrier but for whatever reason when I tried to redo with lv1 Helena it just fell flat
crit/hit issues ๐
well that's how I got my 6.3k
Sup
Then just 2 shot ๐ง
I used nagato amagi shinano
Helena
those who know the secret tech ๐
I'm gonna unlevel my manjuu
Just get your lvl 1 nagato with l10 red skill
Ez win
how is twice the time not half the score
Can I get Akagi carrier in chapter 3-4?
the only place you can
Can I ask who I shld use my cog chips on ( I have 823 now) thanks๐
Someone suggested me to use august in op si so I think I shld use it on her?
not sure why you want to but yeah
Bc my fleet power is just that low
august for now since haku isnt 30
AvP is good for an OS CV boss fleet but that's on the assumption you have her at FS5
Also guys do ships gain xp in down while they are capped at lvl 100
no and they still waste your food
Demonic ๐
exactly
Ah ok ty guys๐ is owari a gd investment?
if a ship is chip capped it doesn't gain any dorm XP
She seems super strong even at 120
owari is a strong BB
if you're low on arrays dont 125 her tho
Hello. Can anyone tell me where to change the support units I placed for the guild boss?
Ok thanks๐
you cant when the boss is active
you can only change outside of boss phase only
How long do ships need to rest for affinity thing?
Ahh ok. Thats why I cannot see the button๐
20/h outside dorm, up till 119
in dorm, 40/h on 1st floor, 50/h on second
up till 150
assuming you're referring to morale
oath regens morale faster by an additional +10/h
Looks like i need to build a fleet 2
you lack the resources for fleet 2 though, just take a break and go touch some grass
is she a good healer like Uni? Guide says she's a healer CV too
and you use the 2nd fleet not to continue grinding, but for the boss
much worse
we use her as a SECONDARY healer to support uni
Sry may I also ask if Sirius or owari wld be a better investment?
to 125? owari for sure
sirius only used for her skills
Ohhhhhh Okok icic that makes sense๐
what can be a good substitute for her? Fleet 1 has uni, fleet 2 has her?
So you do remember my fleet lol?
for unicorn? only perseus
no sub otherwise
boss fleet doesnt need healer
dang I guess no healer for fleet 2. Maybe albion can suffice in her place
you never need a healer for boss outside maybe w15
Hey all! I've managed to clear world 14 and now I'm on to world 15... unfortunately it seems... really difficult. Do you all have any good and tested fleet/gear recommendations I can use? (Preferably not reliant on stat boosts from oathing + excessive amounts of UR gear from gear labs because it takes like a billion years to grind it...) thanks! ^^
/w15
This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15
Can I ask how does this work? I have no idea what to do there and Iโve been putting it off for a very long time lol๐ญ๐
you do want/need very good gear to make your life easier 
so Albion (LB-ed CVL) for fleet 1, put Unicorn on fleet 2
are you doing w15?
unicorn for mob, albion for boss
Clearing W6 with limited gear and shortage of bulins
then you absolutely dont need healer on boss
well then you dont need a 2nd fleet yet
May i ask how many sub mlb and fully gears can do lev 95 weekly sub raid?
i have no idea, my comment was for ch15
S rank:
- battle under 180 seconds,
- kill 3 cargo ships, and ignore everything else.
- kill 2 bosses.
Lvl 110+ subs are recommended, along with +10 purple gear.
oxy torps are helpful as they give extra ammo.
#azurlane
this is fleet 2 .
3 lv 100 subs with purple gear is enough
And mlb right?
Like before when you helped me, my acc still barely worth playing on but any changes or keep it as it is? im close to retrofiting but need to grind T1 stuff
i used this for lv95 sub raid but you can go less
you cant get to lv 100 without mlb for subs
The thing is i only got 2 SR U ๐ฆ
no change
96 and 37
then ignore
you cant even build proper sub fleet
Yup
or you just use royal fortune to solo
Royal Fortune breaks the submarine weekly raid
I thought Perseus and Fritz would make a slight difference but ig not lol
with that said its not worth buying RF from core shop just to clear it
Hello i have a question. How do i unlock that skill?
retrofit
unicorn retro >>> perseus
fritz is useless without max stars
retrofit
Retrofit
hydraulic, steam catapult or camouflage?
I'm filling up Hiryuu but I'm only limited to blue and purple equipments
catapult always
catapult for CVs
I see, and i assume its still the same if you ignore the lvls?
can I stack them like G's Hiryuu above?
yes
they have no passives so no worries
stats always stack
is there a way for me to figure out who among my carriers has the highest acv
the more fighters the more ACV they have
thanks
rumey's is wrong here but she does have the highest
Any SR's you think will make the most difference for my fleet?
no
also how do i tell how many of each plane a carrier has? there's a doc for it somewhere right
Damn, ty all the help
oh nvm the website has a table
Is there any tem pasta can do the job except RF?
Vittorio is good
but 0 point raising her when your hood isnt max stars
mary and amity have a much worse time
ignore replacements until you can finish your first fleet fully
Oh i meant building for down the line, maybe if i get lucky in the event gacha
I had mary, amity and golden hind
Im soon on w7 but damn i have a long way to go ๐
hi guys, i got stellar medal but i cannot find it in my profile, where should i check it
golden hind isnt a sub
Is it just me or does the game sometimes suddenly inputs stop working?
go to HQ -> Medallion (big medal in the middle of town) -> Limited
You press buttons and nothing happens, game is frozen but not at the same time
probably hardware problems

Should you just disassemble all 1 star gears? Inv full
grey gear? yeah
Ye grey, light blue aswell?
so any tips for support CV/CVL fleet in world 15?
Wait you can craft gear?
you can dismantle most blue and purple too, read the scrap guide in /equip first tho
Nw removing the gray ones will fix my problem
read the /w15 guide, it should have all the options and tips you need
Rumey, Nakhimov, Implacable, Illustrious, Illustrious Muse, Little Illustrious, Indomitable, Langley Kai
Use 3 of these
Ideally, one of them shd be Rumey if you have her raised and MLB
might skip the upcoming yorkie event in case the event ships on that list comes up next next event XD

Didnt know i had 3 super rare cat boxes damn
All of them except Implacable, Rumey and Indomitable are permanent
And Indomitable just reran in July
Implacable is due to rerun after Yk2
man I was late XD
just steamrolled in a new account last event
Then forget w15
New account isn't challenging w15 for long ass time
Even if you were lucky with UR banners, the issue is gear
unless you're really good and lucky at the game
i got lil illustrious, would Retro Langley soon so that's a bit optimistic for me
Record was like 8 months
And that involved being around for Guam and Laff2, as well as stuff like Impla
manual 
To be clear, those are the worst options of those I listed
Regular Illustrious from medal, Illustrious Muse is in core shop
I just realized, years ago why was i collecting blueprints like pokemon ๐
that's good because I have a lot of medals to spend XD
core data maybe I'll save up more. I suppose they're mid-tier in your list?
And you also need to get your AA carries like Sandy, Shimanto, Z52 and maybe even Cheshire raised
i saw a man with just 55 days
Someone put me on a Schizophrenic asylum pls
The priority should be to raise your AA carries for w13 first
Then worry about CV support fleet for w15
Was having these blueprints neccessary ๐
Eventually, they will be
imagine worrying about ch15 so soon lol
you really dont have that many prints
55 days for w15 is either lying to you or cheating 
Not the amount but variety
Don't worry about research if you cannot even Max limit break your ships
theres way more vaerity than that too
Ye ik but i was collecting them for no reason
Cheat
100%

okay so update: I blew past Ch6 after following y'all advice.
Thanks โค๏ธ
did they manual?
That's almost certainly manual
Just wait until they find out that you need hundreds to max out a single UR ship ๐ญ
Also requires you to luck out NJ
does that matter, 55 is 55
can u post the video link if any pls, i rlly wana watch it
Anyone know what non cube research types are most likely to produce a UR gear piece that aren't the 30 min gold rigging ones?
I finished all my PR7 ships but only need 11 more La-9 pieces to craft my 2nd one.. and I don't wanna go back to another season till I get enough to craft it..
i already got all the ships on this banner, probably should just do daily light pull now right
what stuff should i +13 for w14
so the 8 months means all-auto?
fighters, aa, bb aux guns?
@atomic abyss do you know?..
q imo
Q researches, I also really like the purple medium researches for when I go to bed
even the 1hr ones? haven gotten many on the purp or gold rigging ones to show up ever since I got all my pr7 girls to dev 30..
all Q good 
None
Absolutely no need for +13 gear there
The 1 hour ones are also to reset them lol
Trueee
So you have a higher chance of getting better ones.
so just stick to regular +13 priorities ig
Yes
And with replicable luck too
Also what are the best Aux gear to put on z52? when I look at the loadouts in game soo damn many of them have the goldburn as 1 of the 2. but I wasnt playing during that collab so I dont have it 
Toolbox toolbox if you got nothing better
Well for DD's 1 of my 2 is usually a toolbox regardless.. just wasnt sure what the best 2nd aux would be
so if i don't really have anything to +13 atm which plates should i buy from guild shop
just whatever i have the least of?
Ideally the best would be a 550HP gold aux (i.e gold burn)
But those are almost all event limited
Planes
Always planes
Because you need an absolute shit ton of plane plates
aight
For each carrier you need to +13 3 planes (unless they're Rumey/Uni/Indep)
I swear to god these T1 retrofit blueprints ๐ if they didnt exist all of my ships would have been retrofit
I would retrofit New jersey aswell
you can buy some from medal shop
its usually not worth it but if you are really desperate then you can get it from there
also even though vt18s are parallel they're worth bringing on bb bosses?
on someone with weak torps ig?
What is META supply? I got like 88 crystal fragments
anything worth getting yesyes?
Ye but they are so frustrating because i have all the materials except those
Why are you even using VT-18 
No I'm also talking about opsi
I used amagi shinano helena but only got 6410. Idk anymore what's wrong.
I am so done lol, at least I hit sub 6000, the rest is just trying to minmax what EX wants
just asking cause i saw them in the picture guide
/plus13
for torp bombers not +13
Then you wouldn't need to +13 them
also is it worth using just a few pr7 prints on hakuryuu if it gets her to d30
Ultimately any TB for campaign is just a stand in for wyvern
i'm 3 away
Haku shd be coinable soon anyways
Just let the 3 come naturally unless you need Haku desperately for some reason
aight
Any specific non goldburn suggestions? heres a look at some of the aux I have..
Also aren't there DR6 BPs in medal shop
Better to use those for Haku rather than the DR7 BPs
yes
may i ask where i can see the rewards list for Obscured Zones? it doesnt seem like it is on the azur lane wiki...
i was just wondering besides the 4 rainbow prints from shop and arbiter, is the abysal the only way to get more rainbow prints?
abyssals and cat nodes
.... ... What's a good way to get lots of exp... My dock is full and I need some level 70 ships so I can move stuff out
Sorry for newbzor question
are cat nodes only preesent in the yellow chest maps?
no
theyy can spawn anywhere but abyssals iirc
ohhh icic tyty
do the level of corrosion affect the drops? or is it only affected by the cat rarity
well also map has to be c3+ iirc
afaik only lvl and rarity matters
as for what affects the loot just cat lvl and rarity iirc
oh cat level also matters??? never heard of that lol, thats gd to know thanks
they are archived events
mainly good for collecting faction ships, like divergent chessboard for ironblood
Everyone has the same amount?
Why do i always think i am special in the game when i am not ๐ simply cuz i started in 2020
But i am barely above the beginner lvl
Ye i wasnt around those 2 LOL, cuz im playing seriously first time in 3+ years
My account still going on somehow when its borderline discard level
Since 2021 i just log in log off few times a year
then you are not special 
Yea man since my account is near to being considered ''Just delete it bro''
For an account this old
What more special stuff are there
Need to cope fr
It really isn't
We've seen actual, just delete it bro accounts
Wonder how does one really look like, cuz mine isnt really all that
I'm not sure what makes you think an account can be so bad that it'd be better to start over
All i will say is, my acc has above average UR luck and some ships thats it
What about i only have kizuna ai and no others
most problems can be fixed with time and actually learning
there was a guy that had been deleting bullions yet he didnt give up n keep playing
scrapped hedgehog :p
Waste every conceivable free resource given, especially gems
Scrap every single ship and gear they don't like/deem unnecessary
even no hedgehog isn't a real issue nowadays
you are 1/3 special
Ok nah i would have deleted ๐, 6 gears is insane
hedgehog's the closest you can get to bricking your account is what i mean, but yeah it's manageable without it, just kinda pain
even with an empty depot it's not completely b0rk
Or was it 14 gears
Even my mid ass account got like 200 gears ๐ญ
unless you decided to scrap ships as well any number of leveled ships can just no-gear low maps until you can work with boxes
it's impossible to scrap 100% of your ships too, fleet 1 always needs 1 mainfleet 1 vanguard iirc
now if you decided to some how scrap everything and waste all your gems and cube, you're actively just trying to destroy the account
But if you scrap everything because its ''all fodder'' ๐ฅถ
you could in theory leave yourself with a pair of trash lv1s
even then you could work back up by running 1-1
still not unsalvageable, trash lvl1s is how we all began playing in ch1
it's just that at that point you would really want to think whether starting over is faster since it's an intentionally b0rk account
Nothing is truly unrecoverable
It's just that at some point it takes less time to just start over
yes but that "start over" point also involves wasting all your resources, not just scrapping everything
^
now if you wasted everything and scrapped everything you're just intentionally breaking the account
What about unintentionally breaking the account
i dont think that's possible
What if your IQ on room temperature?
even then
the chance that you unintentionally ruin your account to a point where it's faster to start over is fairly low



you are specialer if you have Nepnep