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/droprate
Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.
Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.
if you brick hedgehog and restarting wont make you miss a UR or collab boat i would restart LOL
We dont know the drop chance, but you get more cores in higher level hard mode maps
time to re clear w15 without hedgehog
For retrofit prints? Go for the x-4s of Hard Mode. Higher you can manage the better.
Technically w15 is doable without killing any enemy subs
why take the 1 yellow triangle recon node with subs
when i can take the 3 red triangle cv node without subs
so w14? but then I can cheese with 3 depth charges
ch14 can also technically be doable just only take bb node
unless it never spawns enough, im not sure on the rng
nvm I understand it for the weong reasons 
How about Musashi Aquila flagshipcover and just tank subs
do rerun pools use the original run pool or updated pools
should be original but I think there was sth with kron rerun
rerun was special
check original run but I recall searching for it and ppl thought it was heavy for og run 
i meant the ships in the pool, is it updated?
u mean the 5-6 event ships themselves?
should be the same exactly
og run for yk2 was special, during rerun, is it possible to pull aquiila from the rerun pool
oh I see what u mean 
should be like that yes but actually that is an interesting question 
Is SR Hammer or Dual Blades Augment better for Z52?
bro actually made a augment guide 
watch every1 start treating it as a bible
Am I dumb if I'm gonna MLB Fritz Rumey first instead of Amagi CV?
you would probably see more use in amagi cv
as things currently stand I wouldn't
both are good and do different things
amagi is probably better, especially if u have shinano
fritz is cheaper to use (only 2 planes) but more expensive to peak (two la9)
im nitpicking but removing bullet/torp probably worth mentioning
What does mlb mean?
max limit break (aka max stars)
Man I have them both
So MLB Amagi first? Is Shinano better than Rumey?
Shinano has synergy with Amagi CV
i can see shinano being used mor ethan rumey
Sadge, Rumey is so hot
amagi + shinano is better than rumey + shinano for example 
all 3 are good
depends what u are trying to do
i wouldnt
if youre not doing campsign*
in what context?
Amagi + Nakhimov with Soyuz usually
in campaign sure
for single fight bosses it depends on the fight
and usually triple carrier or triple BB is better than mixed fleets
So If I run Soyuz and Nakhimov which of the 3 would I bring with them?
Ok thanks
depends on a lot of things tbh 
what vanguard u are running
what the enemy armor is
what the fight gimmicks are
do you even have a Dev 30 Nakhimov
also fritz is still new
no one has tested her to see how she performs in different compositions
CN calcs say she is highest dps CV for medium and 2nd highest for light armor
u can always wait till we find out more
but we know amagi is a safe investment
What ships do you suggest using for the EX boss battle?
3ijn cv
Thanks for the summary
I used Perseus,Soyuz,Volga,Kronk,Anchorage and Kazagumo
what collection page exactly?
Is there a thread or something online that shows you the locations to every item in Noshiros private quarters?
Click the arrow next to Formation, Memento, Archives
But my vanguard dies quick
on easy or hard?
Hard
dont auto on hard
🕹️
EX is designed to be a bullet hell
You're supposed to dodge everything, not facetank it, which you'll do on auto

if you last that long, follow hipper
Sushi do you have a full play through video
Long time player, but I can’t figure out how to get to C and D levels (meaning SP and EX are locked) in Substellar. I’ve completed all A and B levels with 3 stars multiple times, entire story mode.
No Normal Hard button, no arrows on right of A or B level screens. Nothing. Hopefully I’m just overlooking something, but been playing for years and never had this issue before
Click stage. Click hard
They changed the interface this time, just to mess you up. Click on the stage, then it's on the bottom-left of that screen
unlisted and won't publish, it's just proof in case i get banned for getting too low of a score 
https://youtu.be/1lheuPq91IU
just link to it
#event-faq message
Possibly dumb question, but have they listed the amount of event points you get from a stage on the stage selection box before? i don't remember seeing it
Yes. I remember seeing the same thing brought up in a previous recent event, so idk for how long.
yes but you had to tap on the box to see the amount
(bleh discord lag) /hardmode #bot-spam
isnt this for Sirius?
thats for sirius ya.. have not seen latest post for noshiro 3d dorm yet
oh yes mb
i see. i also realized some items only show up at night so thats where some may be
Thanks. Never would have seen that since I’m so used to the Normal Hard toggle where this event just has “Operation” . 
when can i start beating the challengemode warspit
when you're player level 80
then i need help cuz i keep losing :(
manual is always an option 
or ignore it since there isnt any meaningful reward
can any1 gimme a surefire 1 shot comp for taihou meta
Isn't the point to defeat over time? 
well depends on oaths and fleet tech for how consistently you want to one shot
but that's what I'm running tenatively, 0 CV reload tech
it's not that strong that you have to do it multiple times, you can just 1 shot it
When I've done it I mostly focused on surviving. I'm nowhere near as developed as you guys seem to be...
nah you'll be there in no time
Though part of it was being stupid with set-ups.
As I'm quickly realizing now.
think of it this way : its a bonus (and no oil used) if you manage to one-shot the fight
you'll eventually get enough tech / gears over time to accomplish that
or be like me just copy the best you can and 2 shot the fight
Think I'll just spend most of my time just farming the crap out of 12-4 and finish all my research ships, then I can focus on more mixed set-ups compared to my usual, 'pray for single faction ships to do everything for me and not need to think about it.'
86k oil is going to be one hell of a drug, until it's gone. 
faction bonus isnt worth fielding* bad ships though
better to save your oil in storage for a rainy day
like Yorktown 2's rerun to farm for HVARs
why did you use sg on helena? arent cvs already at 20s+ rld?
my cvs aren't
also, unzen torps at 20.01 whiffs and fleet dies, should i bring it to 19.95?
either one works?
no +13 drake gun
+13 imp torp
who basically guarantees 65%+ win rate
did they just miss or were too early or too late?
then get luckier 
Z52 can main tank taihoum?
I thought you did cm
i need more golden catapults Gah does anyone know what's the best stage to grind for them
Research
T4/T5 Tech boxes, Fallen Wings D3, Ink-Stained Steel Sakura D2. Available in War Archives apparently according to koumakan site
oh thanksalot
Yes
Even at just level 117 and without her blue skill maxed
My level 104 Portland survived a level 15 Maihou with a Unicorn, I think Z52 is going to be ok
ive been nana tanking the whole time for taimou
so there is this site where u can recharge gems. and only snippet i found is that it is official . without naming it. is there indeed a site where u can recharge gems?
a official one of course
Yostar Top-up! Cross-platform payment Solutions for PC,iOS and Android.
yes this is the site. is it official?
It's pinned in the #tech-support channel, so it should be
oh ok thank you for that


is it too late to get all the figures in the gachapon if someone starts now
well you have 4 days to get them including today
you can earn up to 4 pulls a day so that's 8 expressions a day
you need 36 and you can earn 32 in that time so no
So if I did it opening day but then started again today I'm ok? YAAAY!
are buffs and reductions additive or multiplicative?
depends. some not stack
Is OP Siren the only way to get Gear Lab mats?
mainly and the best way
you can get it from dailies|
but its a small amt
So basically, just do your op dailies and you'll get there eventually?
Work on the OP Siren storyline until you get the timer in the top left on the map at least. Then just spend your AP.
you want to do more than just the dailies in Operation Siren
just relying on opsi for daily is not optimal
you want to clear everything in OpSi each month all the exportables, strongholds, hidden modes, Abbyssals, and normal Arbiter on top of your dailies as well as buying out the shop
Is there like a list or sheet with gear for ships
yes but gear is pretty content specific once you get to later in the game
no, closest you'll get is the ECTL but gearing is always situationally depenedent
Right, I've mostly been stopping after reaching my max meta loggers, but I should do as much as my AP allows me
I'm fine with general
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
a good place to start would be giving that a read
^ this basically goes slot by slot instead of by ship, since ships that have the same gear slots generally use the same gear in that slot 
also you have weird cases like how harbin is a light cruiser but can only equip destroyer guns

are comissions limited
?
on active days when i can check in multiple times i start getting this garbage after a few times
You are guaranteed to get commissions from a good pool in the morning, but after a couple cycles of nice 1 and 2 hour quests you start getting comms from a larger pool that has some much less good ones.
there are 10 daily resource extraction/awakening comms per day
Is firefly plane good?
not really
it seems i dont run enough commissions if i only realise this after 10 months 
no better than a barracuda afaik
What about SBD Dauntless?
nah
use barracuda
which one
Mcclusky division
ya just use a Cuda
SBD is a Divebomber
But barracuda is a torpedo plane not a dive bomber?
use Helldivers instead
But helldiver is a purple plane
doesn't matter get rid of the notion, "higher rarity = better" doesn't work in this game
U can't do auto opsi?
you can
shiny =/= good
smh yall have purple aux on ALL of your vanguards
you can, just need to do some stuff to unlock it first
I see I’m a new player so I don’t really understand how the game works
ok, what's your point
How teacher
woosh
I can't remember exactly, been far too long but you should have at the very worst case after your first reset
higher rarity != better
like how you want repair toolkits on your vanguards in 99% of cases
What are you guy's build on To-Love RU characters????
standard builds for their respective hull types
only thing of any note is that Nana wants a fast reloading main gun, that's about it
are tlr ships any good compared to other top ships tho?
not really, good compared to SRs but well
good loadout?
for farming sure
How strong does my fleet need to be to start doing operation siren?
we live in a world of URs, they may be good/decent amongst Srs
just start as soon as you can and see how far you get
i find tlr ships fun to use, but yeah they do not replace anything for harder content
2 fleets of level 120 ships should clear most of it though
so many tlr copers 
oh that reminds me, since rumey has same range on all guns, which would be bis? ply gun?
ply gun
for bossing use Hit AA
Not full 120 but can I start with this?
im 10 bps off my second ply gun and already got 2 ur bullins 
Imo i would replace enty with unicorn, so you dont have to worry about them sinking if you run then continuously
is that bismarck zwei
Once you get all you wanted from core shop, good idea to go for normal chips ? (light blue)
Yes
zwei rerun in may-ish pls
only good bb im missing
with zwei you dont need other slows, right? or do you need them to keep them in the pull?
generally top end golds for their hull type but not comparable to URs
It's definitely worth to pick them up, especially if there's nothing more important you want.
always need cogs until you lvl120 every ship so
I have these two for mob clearing don’t know how well that would work
or you could get more oxytorps 
You can replace persues with another dmg dealer, even with just unicorn she can keep them at full health indefinitely in opsi
is there actually any way to run out of cog chips tho? im getting spammed with them like crazy, i havent bought them even a single time, not even in event stores and am at 30k leftover rn
meaning you dont grind enough
if you level many ships you will run out eventually
if you focus on levelling ships to 120 you will never have enough coggies unless you purposefully level inefficiently (like i do)
well i dontcare to optimize not using a maxed unicorn or a maxed tank sometimes, basically.
30k can go to 0 in a day for me
i like having a maxed exp carry to speed up combat over exp optimization
im not running any content except opsi with maxed ships and with a few exceptions always use all of my oil, i definitely wouldnt say theres much to grind left
Can go to 0 in half an hour for me
and if i focus on it, my cogs trend negative despite that
Is it worth it to start op siren now?
Yes
Are you grinding fleet tech yet
the best time to start opsi was when you first could tackle it, the second best time is now 
you can probably pull enough out of opsi to get at least one UR mat
Because if yes just give it some time
you only get enough coggies for like 5 gold ships a month, if that
passively, havent gone on focussed farm yet, but with my oil shortage while leveling ships i dont see how i could speed that up :c
Do I have enough
Is op siren time consuming
sir, this is a gacha
1st time yes
i am however buying every source of arrays and im constantly running low 
Well it doesn't hit immediately especially if you were slacking before but it will eventually get you
it can be more or less time consuming depending on how much you want out of it
how many are you even 125ing
Let's say efficiently the most useful stuff
My cog count only goes up 💀
i 125 my waifus and i have more than that 
just a few


mine too
Got 28 and another 5 or so incoming
Each month you'll need to dedicate a few hours still to clear everything and still do your dailies
mine goes up when i neglect awakening ships since they dont need it to grind exp
But after your first reset it can be autoed so you don't actually have to watch over most of it
So one time 2-6 hours or so. Then dailies how much?
i think if you farm exp inefficiently you wont have too much cog issue
No more than half an hour max
And that's really too much even
1 minute excluding fighting time
Are any of the planes in the core shop worth getting?
Firebrand to craft to wyvern,
Only if you don’t have opsi mats
i wasnt being sarcastic or anything btw, imo 24 is still just a few, should i not 125 the ships i use on a regular
?
I heard it resets monthly. So with the month almost over is it worth it? Also don't have auto unlock bc I need to do story. Is it fine if I do now?
125 ships you use a lot in endgame content or like a lot (if you have spares)
prioritize top end ships for metagaming ofc
These are what your numbers should look like after a while
i was just double checking that you arent 125ing everyone xd
I wanted to look more into opsi bc most gear are lab gear. I usually just do normal story to lvl ships and events
well try and rush to get it to reset if you can but if you can't it's no biggie
so many plates 
i 125 every UR and the SRs im using 
Is the new ur cv good?
every ur except warspite*
i do like warspite, but i just dont see her being used anywhere except in pvp 
How do I unlock 4 ship fleets?
she's not even used in PvP anymore
I'm noob. I just collect waifus. Depending on how op siren is I will either play it or drop if it's a hassle
after you clear Chapter 1
well if you want to play collector you will need to clear up to 15-4 of the main campaign
Do you want 100% collection?
No. Just collect the ones I like. @viscid swift why is thay
and not that OpSi is required but you would be making life much more difficult to clear W15 if you didn't
Then opsi is optional
meh, I'd still do it
if you want low maintenance you can also just completely ignore dailies and do a full afk clear with the strategic search every day or two, better than not doing it at all, and you still get enough done that way to buy most of the UR mats every month
you're making your ships stronger regardless and it's better to have something not not need it rather than the other way around
I don't have it lol. Feels like getting auto clear sounds like a hassle. I'm just used to doin everything auto.
do people just hate using AP on recognisance for explorable modes or something
You just have to bore thru the fast parts of opsi and everything after will be smooth sailing
I'm at 8-9 gacha games
Clearing chapter 1 of opsi is easy
You don’t buy the 5k logger yea?
My patience isn't big
yes
you scare me
why would I ever pay 5k oil for something that gives me no value
Look if you don’t wanna then don’t, doing opsi will make your time in Al easier so I’d highly reccmend doing it
you may be fine now but imagine ch16 drops with a new waifu you really like, then youll regret not having prepped in advance :p
But how. I don't see where
Yea I agree, as a grinder, I’d much rather spend the oil getting xp
when did w15 drop? are new worlds a "common" occurence?
like seriously my routine is enter an exportable mode
pay for recon, let auto search do its thing, wait for it to finish and do soemthing else
repeat
doesn't it give ap and 90/90/90?
I tried doing that
Couldn't invest enough time
fall 2023, i expect ch16 to maybe happen in fall 2025
ch14 was fall 2021
Yea, but my fleets are good so I don’t need it
all it does is give you some of the stuff you'd get from clearing them in advance
it's not actually giving you extra stuff
In the mission part of opsi
There should pointer to the next stage
it doesnt give you bonus rewards, it just gives you some rewards earlier
How much AP do you usually have to end the season?
wait you can still full auto them even without the logger?
or do yall actually manually do the 100 or something zones
manually start*
about 1k, but bear in mind I actively work throughout the month to not exceed that amount of AP so I don't have to farm through like 3k on the last day
just recon the zone and yes. you cant strategic search everything tho
perform recon with AP
Auto each zone
i use 5k oil
too lazy
There is like mission when I go into big map at the bottom right. It's locked though
i have like 2k ap and a lot of c2-c4 hiddens to burn through 
October 2023
and W14 dropped on October 2021
I'm sure you can start to see a pattern emerging
when was ch13 
do you have any specific opsi routines?
cuz without the 5k logger i usually
clear all zones, while snaking for the dailies, and stuff during first week
then work my way thru strongholds,hiddens and abyssals thruout the month
i just dont know when i should be using AP boxes
apparently sometime in 2019
long ahh image
I don't know why that hapened
wtf is that red dot doing
Hmm
I don't know if I'm remembering correctly, but you have to clear a path to that zone
ye i better unlaze my ass and finally clear w13 to 15
ive been done with w12 for probably over half a year now, just never had the energy to manually navigate all those stages when i have to already do that every time a new event comes along
I actively target modes which will gurantee me 100 AP for clearing them
no lvl 130 for now right?
that effectively allows me to clear explorable for net 0 AP or at the very least minimal cost
and you kinda just snake towards them?
yeah i go for ap reward nodes asap, carving a path to them based on the best tuning rewards as well
after working through the explorables and getting enough adpats I go through Abyssals and Strongholds
pretty much
i usually carve a path to dailies, instead of ones with A{
depends how much you clear early, i like getting a good chunk of the map done so i can pop into dailies as needed
after that it's just picking off everything else as AP allows
I would not hold more than 1k after that point as I really don't need more than that in reserve and building up too much means it's more of a hassle to use it all later on
Is the yellow prototype triple 406 mk6 better than the purple one?
no
i remembered i used to buy the 5k logger > and just rush my way thru every single thing, abyssals, hiddens , explorables in the first and 2nd days, i realised it was inefficient
I genuinely think most people just don't know what recon does
which is understandable because I didn't for a while
i buy logger and do explorables with the boxes, then hiddens/stronghold for the rest of the month
i still dont 
it is not very inefficient
u just lose 5k oil
the opsi rewards are the same
Why is that?
I dont know what it does, and i ran opsi since it was releasd 
you pay at max 10 AP, and it clears all the darkness/fog allowing the individual explorable mode allowing it to be cleared using auto search
i lose 5k oil but i gain back much more in time because i can just auto
i somehow ended up with 200~ ap every month doing that lol
u could also wait 30 mins for it to be free
i do, buy still, doing recon every map
it's basically like entering any campaign map just with a few extra taps and autoing it
oh so, enter, recon, auto? ye still need to manually enter every map 😭
its just paying oil for qol, it can be helpful if you lack time to play since then you can strategic explore the entire map in 1 go
I agree
I don't have enough divided attention to recon everything
*one by one
but if you do have time to play it gives you very little for the cost (less microing basically)
is it that bad though
it's not any worse than auto farming W12
id rather get 35k coins for that oil 
i still buy it since i hate fog of war
i can also just turn it all around by getting more akashi
nextm onth tho im considerng getting hidden logger, every 30min to do a hidden is getting a bit annoying. hidden logger removes fog of war on all hiddens automatically right
yes
not like i dont get overkill vouchers
if i had the attentionspan or energy to reopen a new zone every minute i wouldnt be at 13-1 🥹
hidden logger is basically free so ill get that every time
🧠 yeah ill wipe thru the one time shit by next month anyway so itll be free sailing
to infinity vouchers and beyond
ill give it a go next month, but i doubt ill be doing much of the manual exploring before just buying the logger 2 weeks in 
i hate syren outpost fog trap
, unfortunstely no logger works on that
when there are lvl 80's in first place leader board for ex, are those usually hackers
Good luck
I gave it a go last month, when my courses were nearing deadline 💀
micro for more AP ❌ get lucky for more AP ✅

ill finally have my third champ gun on the 1st, do i +13 them? or there any other guns to +13 first?
they are good to +13 
they have priority over basically everything for +13
im still unsure if i want 2 or 3 of those though tbh.
have heard conflicting opinions on this 
here's my thoughts on that
Isn't gearlab getting an update soon? Maybe wait first?
I definitely see the bnefit of having instead of 2 +13 Champagne guns and 1 +13 Flandre Gun over 3 +13 Champys
Wait for which gear? Champy gun we bought from protocore shop
but the issue is that there hasn't been any content thus far relevant enough for me to +13 a Flandre gun yet
can you sync a flandre with champ guns? i was told to get 3 champs for syncing
just in case something better show up
i also need just 10 more pr3 prints to get 3rd champy since i did a stupid (when i thought i'd need it for warspite cm) and gearlabbed one (it has yet to be used)
also whats the flandre gun anyways
there is the benefit of you getting the former about a month sooner
Probably Tenrai and some Pr5 gold gear
probably in about a month
Tenrai would be nice
but the Champagne Guns have been around and relevant since 2020, I doubt they're gonna get replaced now
What I'd REALLY like now is a rainbow converging TB, but I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.
pr8 cope
as much as I would like that I don't either because that's gonna require an eye watering amount of gold plates
I dont even start pr7...
it's ok i havent either
and we're getting the 2nd Skyraider soon on top of La-9s
Good point, I'll start saving gold plates again
we're probably getting some new gear as well right?
I had to spend a bunch on VIT-7s
most likely yes
at least I hope so
Help make 4 fleets for OpSi Arbiter fight https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1315710938606862477
PR5 gold gear won't be until 2026
I think so, but none of what's been added in these updates have been memorable IIRC
it'll just be the PR4 gear that gets added probably
No, I take it back. The rainbow DD gun was really good.
Timed fuze AA guns
well as far as UR gear
@stark quiver sry for wall of text 
monthly AP income is like this:
passive income: 4320
daily missions: ~1200
explorable zone 1st time clear: ~2000-2500 AP
random akashi throughout the month: variable but sth like 2000-3000 AP total
so in essence u are looking at an AP total of ~10k AP per month
there are 72 zones in operation siren. to clear them all once u need 2880 AP
~1200 for strongholds
~1300 for hidden zones
~1500 for abyssals
maybe 1k repeating zones for daily missions (not sure about this one but it is also variable)
so u are looking at ~8k used
so each month u should on average have a net of 2k AP
if u miss some of these sources u are losing on AP which explains why u might have ended with 200 
thank
try repair assets 
doesnt help
Flapjack
probably wait for devs to fix. 3d dorm is.. a hot mess
oh yeah 
so probably AP used on daily missions is more than I figured but it should still be around 2k net AP each month
I wish I tracked how much is used on daily missions but alas 
Is there a fast and efficient way to earn gold?
I can't defeat Hard Arbiter so maybe my fleets are not optimized, these are the fleets I'm currently using:
How long between the update of 3d dorm? I guess it take forever for all player favorite character to get in 3d dorm 
Farm w12
Those are certainly some scuffed comps
fast is buying with gems
Do you have Plymouth?
What is that? I’m new🥹
Chapter 12 of the main campaign
the 12th world/chapter in campaign
Why chapter 12 in specific? Does prior or later chapters not work?
yes but not yet ready for use
later chapters either require some form of AA carry, take too long, or both
Most effective oil to coin, xp ratio
good balance between rewards and difficulty
And safe to farm
It's the earliest chapter that can drop cog chips, and is also surprisingly easy after you clear it a few times.
It also has oil caps, so you can field a full fleet.
Which stage of chapter 12?
12-4 usually
12-1 and 12-4 are the more common picks
+chapter 12-1 / 12-4 once you got it to safe you can get away with fielding rubbish fleets
12-1 for xp, 12-4 for coin,xp
also 12-1 for more consistent submarine levelling
though subs are really more for late game / optional content
do i get +25% xp gained on ships on highest affinity
How much usefulness do submarines have? I have never ever used or leveled up one
Theyre strong af
a good damage boost but not top priority
U can see my Dock here https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1315710938606862477
a well built sub fleet can help a lot
What are some of the good ones? Is there a tier list somewhere in this discord? Or a generally reputable tier list anywhere on the internet?
Is this good?
nope
Flasher/Archerfish/Albacore, U-37/U-47/u-81
U81,u96,U47/37 in one comp
flasher, albacore archer fish in another
those are the 2 main comps
fish and wolf perform similarly, though the former is favored since they have more oxy (survive longer)
you really like ur subs 
Compared to any of these?
UR submarine when
Lunching nuclear war head?
Roomba is good, purple quad bofors. The other gold AA is fine, but you're probably not at a point where you need AA yet
I see
Am I allowed to post some screenshots of my ships in here? I just started out and I wanted to know what kind of ships I should invest into and what is worth building for my 2 fleets.
Mmm... nuclear pasta
Does SP need aa or just pure firepower?
it's your second best AA gun. Gold AA > Purple AA, very simple
As i remember, Archerfish already sank Shinano right?
Currently pushing avg 110 lvl rn to get it done....was also hoping to go for second z52 afterwards
Yes, Archer sank Shinano, and Alba sank Taihou
Should I have 2 type1AP shells on new jersey or have 1 of those and 1 of super heavy
1 of each, they don't stack
I still find it funny how every ship the japanese called unsinkable got sunk eventually
The type 1 ap shells don’t say that they won’t stack, that’s why
Most "unsinkable" ships throughout history were sunk shortly after launching. Neptune don't play wit dat.
Lol
Anyways, so other than the first z52, hipper meta, and the torps, are there any priorities in the event shop?
Cuz like on repair kits it says it won’t stack but on the ap shell it don’t say
BPs, cog chips, cog arrays.
2nd copy of Z52 if you're short on UR Bullins
Because im comparing second z52 and the cogs
or check pinned message
Aight, ig imma go for that
I'd go for at least the blueprints if you can
I wouldn't to be honest
Really?
they cost about the same in terms of event points and in terms of which takes longer to get well
i did some prints since i was 10 away from dev30 that sexy italian DR
What do these do??
Those were almost always one of the first recommendations since I started playing.
asmr
They whisper sweet nothings in your ear.
I just started out recently. Currently on chapter 6, I was wondering what would be the best ships for fleet 1 and 2? What should I definitely invest into?
USS Harder... Might be great UR, still patrol looking for Cthulhu
Wdym
well opinions do change
just google asmr
Wait what blueprints?
The PR7 prints
Oh that, aight nvm
Between the gold Bps and second z52, priority Z52?
do you guys buy the pr7 bps
Anything i can do with this?
Yeah the rainbow one
i do once i run out of things in shop
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
give that a read and stick to one fleet or now of Pennsylvania, Unicorn, Enterprise, Portland, Laffey, Helena
also limit break your ships
use dupes to mlb, rest can get turned into medals
I don't because I already finished the season, but otherwise I would
Aight
Do they play in battle or only in the secrets tab?
smh not turning into protocore for future gear
I have 30k protocore already, I'm good fam
wtf is the point in buying it then
Stack pr 7 dr bps till the point you can unlock a ship without research it...
Because horni
people like asmr
i'd argue dlsite is better but yeah
just because it serves no value to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t serve value to other people
Why not listen on YouTube
cuz its in game
Because posting them on YouTube is against ToS
why go to YouTube when you can just get it in game
people tend to forget what game we're playing
you can get secret tickets for free
Still need gems as well tho lemao
Oh that makes more sense
if you’re buying all of them sure you need gems
+it is optional
no you don't
it's an alternative form of payment
what
I just listened to a couple and I can see why they added it
cheeky have you bought any secrets yet
I swear when Im trying to buy one, they asked for secret ticket and gems, or did I do it wrong or smithing
That was like some months ago though
Will try again later I guess
Maybe you didn't have enough secret tickets?
you did something wrong
I never used my secret tickets until today
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/673519425252753428.webp?size=48
+when set as secretary
If they weren't free I wouldn't have any
smh just plug voices into AI and have them speak to u there
Thank you so much!
based helena enjoyer
forgot Secrets existed
is the small white parts supposed to show how far away i am from lvl up
That's how far you are into the level
the grey parts is how far you are
ye that concept
thanks
The more white the closer you are to leveling right?
Yes
fills upwards when you get commander XP
What's the best/easiest way to farm gold guys?
12-4
12-4
Actually I'm lvl 50
Does operation siren cost morale?
Event D-3
So I'm still at world 6/7
Event D1 at that level
Okk
Do event stages have more gold than normal world stages?
You probably won't even be able to do that right away, so just do the hardest C stage you can
are there chinese voices for AL
only on CN
less
Do I have to 3 Star stages on campaign to progress or can I just 100%
voroshilov, based asf
just 100% but 3 star gives gems and some useful things like gold bulin for x-4 etc
more if you're comparing D maps to pre-ch9
less if you're comparing no oil cap to no oil cap
No, but there's no commander level limit. And stage D1 introduces oil cap, which you won't get in campaign until chapter 9
also do we know the chances for the gachapon rewards
nope
How hard is it to get Agir and Admiral Nahkhimov, I wanted to buy the skins in advance and use them whenever I get those two. They are farmable right?
is 1500 gems the highest reward?
forgot what the other ones were
they're not hard to get they just take time to get
i got shitty dorm coins
it might actually be more comparing no oilcap to no oilcap bc event elites drop more than the avg mob...
What does oil cap mean?
there are better pretty sure
BOth are research ships, so you just need to have enough fleet tech to start working on them
/oilcap

Perfect then I’ll buy the skins and wait until I get them, thank you 
i got the gems somehow, was gonna get more dock
but its going straight for yk2s skin
u mean from the milestone rewards or did you finish 9/9 already cos
i thought 9/9s get entered into a draw which is done after the event ends
Which one?
thanks for reminding me I need even more gems for the 3D dorm shit for Noshiro 
wait what
so you just randomly get rolled the moment you finish?
i finished the gachapon last night, woke up this morning , clicked on the box and it said you get 1500 gems
shit was it for the first ppl to finish
I got 1 skin pack
i think i need 1 more day idk
How'd you do it so fast??
Also f you
Meaning you got to choose a skin, or what?
wtf that wasnt listed in the rewards was it
Are you shitting me
Idk, if the skin is selection or random
im very confused how it works now ngl
So am I
i think after u get milestone done, you get entered in a draw
WHAT THE FUCK BRO LOL
major congratz but also fck you
Yes, fuck you Alpha but congrats
but the draw has limited gem winners so the first ppl to get into it have a better chance don't they?
Maybe, i remember i finish it as soon as server rs
oof alpha was 1 out of 5
meanwhile in JP we scrubs just have to buy our gems
Oh, it's a gear skin box
oh im gonna finish it in a minute, i didnt realize i shouldve speedrunned it though
Wait it's just been 3 days since this started right??
So how did you guys get so many tokens??
also just noticed there's a typo on figures hehe
2 pieces per token, and it doesnt dupe
Cake double u
u can get 4 tokens per day and the first day you get a free token i think from essex 
Ohh
I remember after i finish, im still have few tokens left
Is it possible to un-oath ships?
Only if you retire them
it's not even a selection gearskin box
man that has to be the worst reward LOL
Need dev to add this function
retiring, but you dont get the ring back
Til death do us part.
dont oath ship you dont love, ezpz
Sinking oath ship do it?
smh not oathing for stats
You know, sometime let her go is good for that guy
I mean good for her from abusive husband
you got it backwards, you oath for love and that oath is to make the ship you love stronger.
What's the best way to get retrofit BPs??
Moving on
If you want to feels good, I just got 1k oils from the gift box :)))))))))))))))
Anyway, yeah total 12% stat is yummy
I checked a friend's account yesterday helping him gear his ships, and found out he has 17 rings in his inventory lol
campaign hard mode
sadge i forgot about event
id take every option over a random gearskin i have a 99% likelihood of disliking tho lol
I guess that what happen when I got all of new banner ship (aside admiral hipper) with 30 pulls only
It is what it is I guess
I'm doing that but I only get T1 BPs mostly, and T2 rarely
1k oil is 0.7 HVAR blueprints give or take when 1:1ing 
Mgtow detective, did he just buy package and leave the rings there?
T3 BPs are difficult to acquire
You'll need to do harder hardmodes to get gold prints
do the hardest relevant hard mode stages available to you, you can unlock more by progressing in normal campaign up to w13
golds start dropping in ch3hm +
So I guess W9 and above??
They SEEM like they're more common in later hardmodes, but we don't have any confirmation on that
Your main source early on will be 3 starring hard mode stages
anecdotally i can support them probably dropping slightly more often in ch12hm than in ch3-9hms
and probably some secretary quests
Even if they are technically more common, they're still stupid rare.
Ohh right the side missions
Why am I only getting shtty low rarity parts from opsi am I doing something wrong?
Yea I have 3 starred all the ones I want currently
iunno about stupid rare i got 2 in a day before
i think i on average get 1 every 2-3 days? its not so bad once ur past the brand new player NEED THESE IMPORTANT RETROS hump
Higher rarity materials are rarer drops, just how it is
Higher-rarity parts come from harder corruption levels more often, or bought from the shops
I dont think so, it base on luck, ur gear part income from port shop monthly and Arbiter
theres some guaranteed ones in port shop and arbiter
most rarer materials are from cat nodes and other harder content in opsi (hidden zone, stronghold, abyssals)
every 3-4 days actually sounds more accurate mb
what's the best way to play azurlane on PC
emulator
emulators
ldplayer,bluestacks,mumu are some
Is the game client seemingly more sluggish these days for you guys?
runs fine unless im in w15
which is the best emulator i heard ldplayer installs random stuff on ur pc
sometimes freezes for me on iphone
I have like only 5 items in shop available for purchase, and some of them cost 500 purple coins.
I get like 5 purple coins once in a while, this can’t be how it’s supposed to be?🥹
i like Mumu player, in my experience, runs the smoothest
i use ldplayer and it has better stability than bluestacks for me
idk about the extra download part though 
I'm feeling some noticeable delays even on the main screen, it's a bit annoying
Are you running on phone or emulator?
Phone
No, just play more, finish all the map in opsi, by the end youll buy the whole shop and still plenty of purple coins left
I honestly never really noticed LD running smoother than BS, ignorning any 3D dorm issues
it may be a internet diff
but MuMu definitely feels a lot smoother
mumu and ld was the difference between runing into one and all beams in Ex
I ran both at the same time and LDPlayer used fewer resources
al requires at least a mid-end phone to run properly, delays are inevitable if youre not on a high-end device
well I didn't really have a resource problem though and LD felt just as shit as BS, plus ads and the stupid wiki thing for JP
I was getting a lot more ads on BS, but I might have made the mistake of using X instead of 5
I don't think Xiaomi 14T pro is thaaaaat bad, considering it can run gakuen idolmaster on max
isnt x the cloud version?
Actually no, it was 5 I was using
bluestacks runs fine for me until i enter 3d dorm
its not, it has a high end chip
id assume its more of a network problem
BS just dies on 3D dorm for whatever reason but I never had to deal with it
i'm using bluestacks 5, there's only ad (banner) when loading the bluestacks itself, then nothing, and it so far runs bugfree and lagfree for me, only occasionally becoming weirdly laggy after many hours with it open, which is fine to me
recently it keeps telling me to update it though which is annoying because im on the latest version
you wont notice difference between BS and LDplayer on game like azur lane
well some people claim otherwise 
bluestacks cant maintain stable fps for me compared to ldplayer 9
oh yeah i should mention i havent touched 3d dorm so idk bout it
i notice it 
rig diff
nor am i in ch15
I play 30fps regardless of phone or emulator so...
ldplayer pulls way ahead in games that uses higher fps, that's from my experience
but everything i have played in azur lane, bluestacks runs fine until i have it on for like 10+ hours then it sometimes becomes laggy until i reboot it
bluestacks makes that pc bugging sound
what sound
bitcoin miner sound kappa
my settings for graphics are usually kind of high so that might be why, though i turned all of them down for 3d dorm and it still crashes so 
either way i suggest to just download all 3 emulator, test them out, see which is best on your rig
ldplayer makes a weird loud sound for me on startup, i never had that sound for bluestacks
emulators are notoriously finicky and YMMV so yeah, give them all a try if you can
ldplayer does have random popups for ads
if you click on those ads the emulator just downloads it for you, no joke
Anybody got issue that, sometime youre entering 3d dorm and it kick you back to login screen?
computer freezing sound
according to one yt vid i watched
i never got ad popups aside from start-up 
that said I'm just going back to MuMu after many years, it was for all intents and purposes, the first emulator I used until CN dropped support for direct app downloads onbard
bluestacks can turn off the ads which is nice, it just opens it in a separate tab when starting up instead
i didnt get that 
and bluestacks is no ads besides a banner when bluestacks itself is booting up, when im in game absolutely 0 ads of any kind
pc bugging basically
bluestacks is unstabe for me
case in point ig xd
I've had issues with BS before but stability was never one of them
but yeh emulators are weird, just test for yourself
bluestacks does consume a decent chunk of ram but i have room so it's not a concern for me, idk how other emus compare on this either
i have tried them all, according to me, mumu is the smoothest
ive even tried now.gg on browser ( al played black and white, not reccomended)

/core
#bot-spam
Hello all. Wish planes in this shop should be a priority to buy? I do not have any of these yet.
/coredata
No planes
I see. So all those planes are bad even compared to gold baracuda.
well no, but it's not a priority for you
not worth the price for most
but yea breguet gud
blackburn if crafting wyvern but you have alot of core data but few electronics for some reason
buffalo to 1hit strength 21s
dunno how he even comes up with those comps 
🦬
🦬
I have 3 pair of shells, independence, and ddg materials
Should I go for sub materials, oxytorps, or tash gun?
i would go for sub things
what's tash gun even used for now
at most id prolly see 4 oxytorps being used ina fleet
and sub gears are gud
it's still a good DD gun when you don't have the better DD guns
similar case for chapayev gun
also a matter of stock numbers, HPFCR take a while in research
my ddg is not so good without the tash gun yea, only have twin 138 113 as the best option rn
wait no wrong number hold on
I only have twin114 rn
how is it compared to pr5 gun and twin128?
and not sure when it'd be worth the core datas
pr5 and tash gun are sidegrades in ectl
pretty sure i shall have 3 pr5 guns before i leave pr5 tbh so im good then?
harbin gun is mostly a side grade but it means you need to be doing PR5 or spending proto cores for it
Pr5 gun is just a Chinese copy of the tash gun basically
well im in pr5 for plygun and ply bps still
im like 2.5 harbin guns
twin 128 depends on your lab material stock and is really only better on medium and maybe KMS DDs with AP buff
Twin 128mm is overall just worse
but twin128 cheap they say
yeh you're in PR5, but not everyone is doing PR5
but the pierce tho
for newer players who manage to push up to ch12 hard it's 2.5k cores a month before missions
good point, but i only need 3 of each don't i
im probably close to my 3rd hpfcr
yea
can do 12-2
Question: is the center of the map in SirenOps unavailable?
how many black shells do i want, and when would i use them over hpfcr, is what i am wondering about atm?
if you're like a year in and already doing good with research and OS/lab then sure your options are there
but players who're like half a year in and up to 12 hard can buy a handful of useful stuff in core shop before their research and lab catches on
3 would be a safe number
unlocked with ch5 opsi story i think
idk about this, black shell was good back then when fast firing is a thing, but lately enemies have so high evasion or like 20s shield
And I don't use then often these days but I do still use them
black shell is still good for just raising damage when you're not worrying about 20s
and they say you can't have too much ACC too
yeah mostly i am not sure what things to get from where
been seeing so many rainbow torp builds for kaza/unzen looks like gotta save for em
like i have 6 or so twin128s, 2 harbin guns, 2 nearing 3 hpfcrs, 2 white shells (can buy 3rd next month)
oh im 1 bp from my 3rd hpfcr coolio
i lied, i have 5
For the shells i only stock 3 white and 2 black
cos i had the mats for them
they didnt stop me from making anything else that im aware of lol
could make like 6 more
not that i will, since i dont need them currently
like
only have these, so tash gun would be an ugrade
interesting
how is my gear better than yours for this at least
i have a whole bunch of purple twin120s as backup too
I still prefer tashkent gun if available mainly because of what you're usually dealing with for DD guns
you could bother yourself to swap situationally
you’re poor bro
100kailess
now if you already have twin 128s and it works fine for you, saving the cores is perfectly fine as well
tash gun is good but not high prio core data imo, ofc once you have the big stuff its certainly an option if you lack harbins
is not poor though,
started late and f2p
maybe i should get tempesta guns so i can actually use fancy properly

paying wont get you opsi stuff
i think
but paying gets you oil
technically
gems -> oil -> ap -> opsi stuff
i wish i could pay for another goldburn and rainbow table
still have to grind it tho
anyhoo if i have about 1400 core datas to spend this month after cog things
black shell is the no brainer right? other options include fancy guns, tashgun, or beginning on subs (
)
I guess yeah until you have 3, black shells
oh and missile i guess but i havent really used chang chun much yet...
Z-52 is definitely worth the mlb right? I’m able to get her mlb rn
it's the only equip that is good and not screwing up timer
yeah this will be my first black shell 
who should i build haven't played for a while and I see there's a series 6 and 7 now
depends, worth is relative, if by lb-ing somebody like Shinano you can have the best heavy fleet, then it's not worth to lb z-52. Anyways just show all your URs and we can tell you better if it's worth or not
itll sit in my depot until i have more bbs i use, since i use hpfcr on them for acc. but yeah better to have than not, no doubt
She’s my only one ._.
oh then yes it is worth it
Aight
actually this could go on yami ig
She goes into tank slot right? I remember seeing someone say that. so like in the slot where CAs and CBs normally go?
Doesn't really matter since you don't have enough BPs for any of them
best from pr6 would be shimanto probably
yes most likely, the only early tanks that can be better than her is probably ancho
pr7 nakhimov i cant spell it, green cat.
that cycle is extremely flawed because oil>AP has limited counts and cat node fishing is extremely low yield
Blackburn plane if youre going to craft wyvern
pr6 hinden and kears are also good but niche and DR so
Aight
it's the way to 'whale' for opsi. i didnt say it was a good way, but it exists. and you can do up to 1000 ap from oil per week iirc
already crafted it 
I have tried "whaling" for OS it doesn't really get you much
it was a reply to this
as i said, not a good way but it is a way by technicality
Tired, nothing much, except aiming for archivement reward
i checked the tierlist it looks like kearsage is a really OP battleship is she not better?
been there done that 4 years ago
well 3.5
kearsarge is mostly used in yk2+enty antilight fleet
Okay so a few things
unless i missed a memo, that's the main thing i remember
I just started on last anni, want to catch up in opsi i guess, but nothng much except clear and wait for next month
shimanto on the other hand is a really good vg ship and aa carry for ch15
One, ECTL tiers mainly on campaign up to W13, it doesn't really delve into late game which is a rather different kettle of fish
as it stands I lean towards using Kearsarge/Yorktown II/Fritz Rumey on a plane swap for light/medium
well also gun swap for Kear
2nd is investment and opportunity cost
DRs can take months to max
As it is stands PR6 is overall the weakest of the 4 latest seasons
Does it sync fine 
and pr7 is more important so
And the last one you want to do
pr6 is also getting catchup soonish so you can get shimanto for mostly free via that anyhoo 
I haven't tried but don't see it being a real problem, the windows you need to fit are quite big
as someone without kears how would a hypothetical yk2 rumey enty fleet fare 
it can work
Needs vanguard slow but ykii comes bundled with nhii 
Or if u have eldridge
i didnt know northhampton 2 had a slow, good to know
basically a bootleg eldridge for slowing purposes but better than nothing 
yk2 event really is stacked huh
ham2 with ARA and flag cover aswell and integrated hedgehog 
So i can pull yk2 use it with rumey, enty and eldrige?
this is rumey at 110, I'm expecting 125 to clock in just under 24?
Upcoming UR reruns all good
Implacable bismarck unzen
Newbies will be spoiled for choice 
rumey also slows, so those two would stack to 65% right 
May i ask how long in between for new ur?
1 week from end of this to start of rerun
Brand new UR
if twin la-9
New UR events usually every Late February, Late May, Mid September, and Late December
damn those planes truly be slow mfs
you can proably go with a slow comp using skyraider on Yorktown II
Looks like slow planes are the meta these days 
would + 13ing a single UR aa be more beneficial than +13 A staags
23s airstrikes are not a problem if you're not syncing to 20s stuff
Avarage how many new UR per year, 4?
Depends on your goal but yes
as long as you're not pushing 4-strike comps it works fine
What does the slider „alts“ mean on the right side? Can I use this skin for my starter Laffey?
6
Right now I'd say 6 not including retrofits and DRs
new UR is like 6
for the record I'm also currently tuned to 0 CV RLD
rerun 4 ish?
so in practice it can be a fair bit faster
rerun will eventually become 6 as well 
I'd say UR AA better, +13 STAAG has use on like what, BB comp in harby? UR AA can be for pvp, meta concealment, AA
4 UR reruns a year seems to be the norm now yes
Will also be 6 when we start hitting guam rerun 

newbies will end up needing a ridiculous number of bulins per year lol
just let us farm more spec core smh reward the nolifers
without pushing shit back continually it's only natural that the rerun pace would end up being the same as the release pace
I reinstalled and got this, what's up?
What’s a good amount of wyvern to have? 3?
Avarage 6 brand new ur, not included rerun, oh my yostar
This is me trying to log in with of course, my main Yostar acc
That would be a good amount yes
Yes
I like 4
2 for mob 2 for boss but 2-4 is fine
Kk also is it worth making the mk7 BB gun?
Eventually
Or you can stop at 2 wyvern and start to craft another UR gear
do new dossiers usually come when a meta season ends
Yes
wyverns
what would be better than wyvern
Spearfish 
457 needs ordnances so its different 
Best aux option for Fritz?
Hello! I wanna ask for some good opsi teams I can make with what I have leveled, do I make a thread or something

Hi could I get help making a team for operation siren
the CL gun is the best, though it hardly matters at this point since you only have one of the CL gun, use on BB first
Probably doesnt matter yet*
U can try the gold gun but that should go on your BB
given what you have now just use anything that's not taken by someone with more priority
triple 155 gold should go to a BB first
Opsi teams
unless you're using a USS BB in which case they can only use DD guns
is there a future banner list? we are behind JP right?
No
Major servers are all synced together
We're not behind CN either before you ask
EN is behind by half a day if that counts
tw is so behind 💀
?
Isn't it actually catching up pretty fast or am I making that up
Basically China, Japan, and English/Global servers are all caught up on content
Taiwan and Korea are a few months behind
time zones and maintenance hours
event schedule wise EN is completely in sync with CN/JP
still got no idea how this game got green lit in CN, then again a lot more fanservice games and characters are getting release by CN
Operation siren team help
because all your perceptions about censorship in China is wrong, but that's not a topic for this channel
and launch day AL was way less risque than current day AL
We were 12+! (Or maybe still are?)
Anyway not the topic for the channel so I'll stop here.
CN is 18+ last I heard
is any of the current banner ships good? excluding UR I got all of the ships on the banner except the UR wanna know if they are just for collection or if they are good
new URs always good
collection/tech
hence why I said excluding the UR
They are good tech but nothing special and hipper meta is decent but bad tech
realistically tech fodder
This is a certified +2 CA HP tech moment 
2?! Poggers
what about warspite???? I still can't believe she is bad, I remember in 2021 when I first started playing I was told in a discord I had to build her she is a Meta UR
are tenrais still worth +13?
Well that was 3 years ago
she got powercrept
I know but apparently she was bad then
You were lied to even 3 years ago
first of all Warspite isnt' a real UR
second of all her retrofit is seriously undertuned
thirdly she was only "meta" for PvP for a rather short while and not really for campaign
I can't remember if it was here or in another AL discord I was told that bs
Worth but not a priority 
At most for campaign she was use in like… w12/13 boss fleet back then?
Her duty was PvP snipe.
oh any other great retrofit? I got the bow girl retrofit(can't remember her name)
Unicorn
got her already
indpendence
Unicorn, Independence, Nelson,
yeah independence is bow girl
San diego (but expensive)
Saratoga
enterprise is bow girl?
Are the DDGs retro perm yet?
built her already
Warspite retrofit was like around CN 2nd anniv wasn't it, BBs were already rather meh back then
2 of them are
Tai yuan isnt yet last I checked 
she's been heavily powercrept since like 2019 💀
her?
Late 2018 or early 2019 yeah
sara retrofit with augment is good
Saratoga Retrofit is basically a lite version of Enterprise
No stop reminding how old this game is



