gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

maybe

also turtle, pick a pfp and stick with it

[earnest crag]

Should I put some UR Bulins onto Shinano in case I want to use her later for fleet 2 or should I just fully limit break New Jersey instead since she's almost level 100?

[undone plover]

is the gachapon event bugged?
in game says I have 2 tokens but on the website i have 0

[viscid swift]

I think that's how many you've earned

yes "owned"

[soft raft]

From what I can tell, you should bench both of them for the time being
Also for future reference, dont limit break URs unless you can MLB (IE Full stars) in one go

And you also look nowhere close to building a 2nd fleet right now

[eager mulch]

sticking with this one for now

[undone plover]

so there is only 2 per day from the web tasks? or should it be 4/day?

[viscid swift]

I think it may be only counting the ones you earn in game for that counter

[undone plover]

but they are not physically showing up? am I not supposed to use them
I only rolled twice today

[viscid swift]

you are

[storm heron]

2 different server on the same account cannot gachapon

[viscid swift]

things seem to be working on my end

[forest palm]

I only have 2 left

[earnest crag]

But New Jersey basically carrying my newbie journey right now, benching her would slow down my campaign journey. Should I just subtitle her Pennsylvania instead or there's not much as I do since my current Pennsylvania is lv.59 atm.

[undone plover]

I will try later on my phone

[soft raft]

At this point ig it's too late to switch off of NJ since she's already LB 2 but its still quite the dumb decision

especially with Fritz Rumey, Z52, and soon Yorktown 2 being higher prio for UR Bullins than her

[undone plover]

maybe it is different devices causing an issue

[spring bolt]

i think it maybe the time zone issue... seems when phone/emu are on the same date as server time, the ingame gachapon page works for me, need to verify tho

[storm heron]

for the gachapon's christmas draw, I missed a day, is it still possible to get the gems

[storm heron]

I have the same amount of coupons here (need 2 more days)

[earnest crag]

How do I unlock SP chapters?

[forest palm]

do D3

[viscid swift]

clear D3

[forest palm]

C3 isn't necessary for SP, but there's a mission for it, so do that as well

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1319325872880095295/Screenshot_20241219_232922_Azur_Lane.png?ex=676ec7f7&is=676d7677&hm=6ec625380607db98b688f823b9563c5fcd9cb801a0248f6e36907e47db109f74&

obligatory

[earnest crag]

And wheres D3 at? I can't find it

[forest palm]

look at Enders post with your special eyes

[ivory pawn]

D3 is B3's hard mode.

[stark quiver]

so many people skipping tutorial

[earnest crag]

Oh ok thanks

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

what happened to the days of just pressing buttons, and figuring out what they did

[stark quiver]

wel gph kinda killed that

[eager mulch]

asking gph is the new meta

[earnest crag]

Well I guess not

[eager mulch]

you have to clear D3

it’s 0% right there

and D3 has stat limitations

[sinful escarp]

what does this do specifically?

[plain saffron]

Which account the rewards goes into

[plain saffron]

Reduce enemy HP% doesn't work on boss

[sinful escarp]

ahhh, thanks

[storm heron]

mine's amagi

[vestal glen]

Whats going on here

[ivory pawn]

Greater than. Not equal to.

[storm heron]

your avg level has to be 101 and above

[viscid swift]

your average level needs to be ABOVE 100

[vestal glen]

Oh god cmon

[storm heron]

100.5 doesn't count right?

[ivory pawn]

Only if the game rounds up.

[storm heron]

time to test
Nope I was wrong, apparently 100.1 counts, the game description is correct. The display is a bit wonky though since they round the numbers up

[vestal glen]

Hmm,1202 and i made it 101....i think they round up?

[crisp raven]

@undone plover a tad late, but i think there was an issue with the site and maintenance. i had tried doing a website claim after maint started, but the token didnt register. once maint ended and i relogged to the site, the token was credited and everything was fine.

[undone plover]

I see thanks
I will try a few more times

[elder grove]

is the post in game news the rewards all of us are getting or is it a grand prize?

[ivory pawn]

It's a display of potential rewards.

[elder grove]

wdym?

[ivory pawn]

The grand prize is just gems. A lot of gems, but just gems. You can also win cubes, coins, etc.

[elder grove]

you have to spend $30?

[soft raft]

you mean this? (and others like it)
You get all the rewards listed in the bottom along with a random skin out of the ones shown

And yes this does require the 💳

[eager mulch]

you buy and get them all

except the skin is a random one from the ones shown

[elder grove]

if they had you pick the skin it would be different

[atomic abyss]

it's called a "lucky bag" for a reason

if you want a particular skin, buy it directly

[stark quiver]

Buying gems while 2x bonus is active is better anyways

[vestal glen]

Is it possible to finish SP with only a fleet at avg lvl 110

[ivory pawn]

I don't see why not. Fleet composition and gear will be more important with those levels.

[hoary scarab]

why do i not have T3 purples in my shop

[stark quiver]

T3 purples aren’t real?

[ivory pawn]

RNG. The only set options are the ships and the T4 Gear Plates.

[soft raft]

because guild shop selection is randomized every refresh outside of the ship selectors

[stark quiver]

Oh gear plates

[ivory pawn]

Or Tech boxes.

[sweet delta]

You should buy the T3 retrofit instead of skill books

[vestal glen]

I see, because i doubt i can get 2 fleets at avg 110 before this eevnt ends

[hoary scarab]

oh ok

[barren tapir]

complaining about a good guild shop roll

[hoary scarab]

idk what any of these things do tbf

im quite confused, im just following this guide step by step

[rugged summit]

Drake or cheshire for pr?

[bold cove]

Is Drake a meme?

[forest palm]

ya

like...Drake is strong, but she's so sorely outclassed in every facet

[soft raft]

pretty powercrept at this point

[barren tapir]

drake is outclassed by multiple golds iirc

[soft raft]

Unique aug when

[barren tapir]

would that even save her

[forest palm]

Drake, and Azuma are the 2 DRs that fell off

[soft raft]

afaik not SRs are completely outclassing her
more like they're slowly creeping up to her power level

[barren tapir]

i mean lala exists

[bold cove]

Cus i dont see her anywhere, and use for measure SR ship power too

[barren tapir]

very very slightly lower dps, on par durability, provides fleet support drake doesnt

im 100% certain there's a few more i just dunno them off the top of my head

[bold cove]

Thats why i can use DR bps 2 3 on max fdg, more protocore

[forest palm]

after a point you stop caring about Protocore gains

[bold cove]

I know, but im staring at all the ur bp gun

[hoary scarab]

so if T1 retrofit doesn't pop up in my shop can i not ugrade my low level units ?

[bold cove]

Does it drop in hard mode too?

[ivory pawn]

Retrofits are typically farmed from doing Hard Mode, you'll get countless T1 retrofits from there eventually.

[bold cove]

I remember i had plenty of it

[ivory pawn]

The real problem is T3 droprate is god awful, and can't be crafted into, so getting a few extra from guild shop is a very useful blessing.

[hoary scarab]

oh i see

i got some of those

[bold cove]

So in PR5, ships worth getting is everyship except chkalov?

[eager mulch]

worth what

[storm heron]

-worth

[sharp socket]

just ply, harbin and maybe brest if you want

[storm heron]

imo brest ply harb

[eager mulch]

imo skip if you don’t need them

cept ply maybe

[bold cove]

Ruppy with that scissor...

[sharp socket]

harbin is kind of just free with catchup and youll get her to fs5 from doing ply

[barren tapir]

what scissor

[storm heron]

scissor

[hoary scarab]

good lord, this guide has so many other tabs that open another guide, I am never going to remember all of this

[bold cove]

Doesnt she hold a big ass scissors?

[storm heron]

but you chose to care about optimizing, can't complain

[stark quiver]

i never read the guide

[barren tapir]

oh i never even noticed

[eager mulch]

same

[hoary scarab]

I usually don't read at all

[eager mulch]

[bold cove]

Kinda unique design man

[hoary scarab]

but I didn't want to like waste my resource early on but all this in detail resource management and configuration has fried the 2 goldfish living in my skull

[barren tapir]

how did i never see this i love her

[storm heron]

love is blind

[bold cove]

Shame on you, anyway PR5 Ply and Brest, focus on 1 and move on or do both?

[ivory pawn]

Just don't unnecessarily burn your cubes and you're probably fine.

[storm heron]

well yeah, there's the curve of diminishing return, the more guide you read doesn't mean you will gain as much

[eager mulch]

I can’t see cooper

[storm heron]

focus on ply face > rigging analysis > grant donation

[rapid grail]

late, but are you getting them gold plates
you should get them gold plates for planes, guns and auxes

there's a lot of them worth +13

[bold cove]

Add this, ask if youre not sure about UR bulins use

[bold cove]

I once had 6 brest face in a row...

[eternal moth]

Oh my

[hoary scarab]

these correct ?

[undone plover]

gun or plane better
and for new player gun

T3 retro print also good if u still need to retro stuff or get shipyard ships

[storm heron]

grabbing food once in while is also okay

[hoary scarab]

i can't retro anything rn apparentely i have no T1 retros

[eternal moth]

I pretty much get nothing but gold plane plates. Better guns seem to be far rarer than new, better planes

[storm heron]

is buying T1 retro through medal shop even possible?

[viscid swift]

I don't think so, but having no T1s means you haven't been doing hard mode at all

which means you're losing 1 cube a day

[eternal moth]

Means you need to do more hard mode stages. X-1 drop destroyer prints, X-2 cruiser, X-3 BB, X-4 CV

[viscid swift]

anyway, I think these are gonna be my final Taiho META fleets, 0 CV reload

[hoary scarab]

I started today

[ivory pawn]

This might be literally day 1 for them, sounds like they were going through the newbie tips.

[undone plover]

cheeky did u try any 4 strike comps?

[ivory pawn]

Hey, called it. Welcome to the club.

[viscid swift]

no because I don't have my ships oathed for that

[stark quiver]

theres always a first

[hoary scarab]

should I be oathing ships

[stark quiver]

Oath waifu with free ring every year
Unless you wanna spend money on game

[ivory pawn]

It's a whale thing mostly. Save what rings you get for the waifu.

[barren tapir]

waifu only if f2p

[stark quiver]

Don’t use your free 2 play gems for rings

[hoary scarab]

idk even know that was a thing

what is it, a marriage proposal ?

[eternal moth]

Wedding ring

[eager mulch]

yes

[hoary scarab]

ah cute

[eager mulch]

you get how many oath rings again? without anni?

[hoary scarab]

im going do these hard mode missions, is this good enough for early on ?

[undone plover]

u can get 4 strike f2p with saiun bearcat
it was giving me good results

[eternal moth]

1 free one is all I can think of.

[viscid swift]

like 0.5 a year

[mellow storm]

can someone tell me what is the requirement to do fate simulation for pr 7 ships? I have one of the sips at lvl 120, but still can't do fate simulation

[eager mulch]

there is none

[eternal moth]

They need FS5 first

[stark quiver]

no reqs because not real

[eager mulch]

fate sim doesn’t exist for pr7

[viscid swift]

I could but man I do not wanna throw almost 300 plates at shitty planes for that

[hoary scarab]

ugh guys, where is hard mode ?

[stark quiver]

dr 5 6 7
pr 7 no fs

[ivory pawn]

If it did exist, you'd need dev30 plus level 100 for 5th FS.

[undone plover]

fair

[eternal moth]

You need to beat the entire first stage then you can activate it.

Don't worry about retrofit day one

[hoary scarab]

so i should play the campaign until things happen as of rn ?

[mellow storm]

no fs for pr7? but if you click on bp exchange, it says total 165 for it. that's an error?

[eager mulch]

not an error, it’s just like that

[viscid swift]

no, that's just how it was built

[ivory pawn]

Pretty much. I assume you already got the decent starter fleet setup as per newbie tips.

[viscid swift]

you can reserve BPs for fate regardless of if they have it or not

[barren tapir]

gives u the option to save for it

[eternal moth]

Pretty much. I started an alt about 3 weeks ago, and it took me at least 2 weeks to get my first ship fully retrofit. And that's with knowing quite a bit about the game already.

[storm heron]

what to do if I don't have 6 +13 saiuns and 0 bearcat

[eager mulch]

give up

[mellow storm]

wow, I wasted so much time and gold trying to get all the ones for pr7...

[stark quiver]

4 strike is for the rich

[eternal moth]

It just means you're ready when they're actually released.

I wouldn't call that a waste

[viscid swift]

well I would actually

[hoary scarab]

I think i got the jist

[viscid swift]

that means that much more time wasted of ship focus rather than gear focus for La-9s

[mellow storm]

oh, is that how it goes? they release pr7 first, then unlock fs at a later date?

[hoary scarab]

tank bottom left

[eternal moth]

Looks good.

[stark quiver]

around after a year it comes out for PRs

[hoary scarab]

BB middle, what is a BB

[ivory pawn]

Battleship.

[hoary scarab]

Big bo...ight that makes more sense

[viscid swift]

yes, the PRs should get fate sims during the next EN Anniversery

[eternal moth]

Pennsylvania

[mellow storm]

oh that's cool, thanks

[stark quiver]

someone send the acronyms chart

[eager mulch]

ok going to sleep now, wake me up when amagi-chan gets a retrofit/unique aug/fate sim

[stark quiver]

bros never waking up 💀

[eternal moth]

BB is naval nomenclature for a battleship. Penny, for example, is BB-38

[hoary scarab]

Icy Icy

[sharp socket]

that sounds more complicated than BB = battleship ngl

[eternal moth]

CV is aircraft carrier, CVL light carrier, CA heavy cruiser, CL light cruiser, DD destroyer.

[hoary scarab]

cool

[eternal moth]

BC is battlecruiser, like Repulse or Hood. There's not really much of a difference between a BC and BB, as they both fit the same niche, it's just typically what they were referred to as.

[stark quiver]

Pocket battleships

[viscid swift]

no....

[eternal moth]

Pocket battleships are CAs in this game.

[viscid swift]

for one thing contemporary BCs actually tended to be longer than contempary BBs

[stark quiver]

Spee is a pocket battleship right?

[storm heron]

protected cruiser

[hoary scarab]

what does locking ships do actually ?

[sharp socket]

the man is gonna explode at this rate

[viscid swift]

it's complicated

[storm heron]

aviation destroyer

[eternal moth]

It keeps you from retiring them or using them for anything else except battles

[stark quiver]

So haifuri was right

[hoary scarab]

anything else ?!

[viscid swift]

that's what the British called her but she's also been called a Battlecruiser, the Germans called her an Armored Cruiser/Ship and later on a Heavy Cruiser

[hoary scarab]

what else can i use them for

[eternal moth]

No, you want to lock any new ships you get.

[storm heron]

it guarantees your ship is in your dock no matter what you do until you unlock them

[hoary scarab]

ah okay

[sharp socket]

hull types don't give anything away about the ship except what their statline is probably gonna be

[eternal moth]

Basically locking means you won't accidentally throw it away

[hoary scarab]

ah i see, that's great news for the 2 goldfish in my brain

[viscid swift]

well there's another protection against that now

[sharp socket]

because DDs that are tanky exist and there are many CAs that are low in bulk

[storm heron]

what does it protect you from? retiring URs?

[undone plover]

did we get 500 cogs from somewhere (not EX or taihouM)
my calcs are off

[viscid swift]

how far are you into the event?

[undone plover]

60k
so not event

[viscid swift]

event shop ones gotten already?

[undone plover]

no
and that is 1000 anyway

[viscid swift]

or did you perhaps forget that for UR events have a UR Bullin at 30k rather than cogs

[crisp raven]

the event mail care package?

[undone plover]

that was also 1k I think
and I accounted for it
has to be sth from last 2 days

[stark quiver]

Core data?

[storm heron]

that's 1000 right

[undone plover]

actually it was 500 but it wasnt that
I already have it counted

[eternal moth]

weekly pack?

[viscid swift]

I know you said not Taiho but

[undone plover]

oh nvm I just wrote sth wrong , thx anyway

[rapid grail]

gun -> plane -> aux plates
also depends on priority but generally it's easier to get guns to +13 first

[hoary scarab]

i see i see

thank you

so what do i do once i complete the campaign, is it just farming and pulling ?

[eternal moth]

Pretty much

[viscid swift]

you're not completing the campaign any time soon...

but you'll be farming mainly after a certain point yes

[rapid grail]

take your time, play what you can, get much resources as you ca

[viscid swift]

events, Operation Siren, PvP, doing research, Chapter 12 mainly

[peak mulch]

How do I aquire a prototype gear upgrader?

[viscid swift]

Operation Siren

[peak mulch]

Am I able to craft them? Or is it from the stuff I find when clearing an area?

[late osprey]

Is there anything special about this (anything that it does, etc.)

[eternal moth]

It's the stuff you find, you craft in Gear Lab

[eternal moth]

It's a medal, just like the other ones in the fountain

[late osprey]

I see

[peak mulch]

So like the loot crate in the area? Also are they rare to find?

[eternal moth]

It depends on the rarity

[peak mulch]

There's different rarities?

So how rare would the prototypes that make my stuff to super rare and ultra rare be?

[eternal moth]

There's really no way to quantify it

Just do everything you can in OpSi and you'll start getting a feel for it

[viscid swift]

what do you mean exactly

These?

[peak mulch]

No the ones that upgrade your stuff rarity

[viscid swift]

These?

[peak mulch]

Yes

[viscid swift]

those don't upgrade the rarity of your gear

they're just another material used in the last stage of enhancing gear at +11 or +13

[peak mulch]

Oh okay so how do I obtain those then?

[storm heron]

operation siren

[viscid swift]

you get a few guaranteed from the shops each month and Arbiter, the rest are rng from drops

[storm heron]

unless you don't have the monthly shop yet, in which case it's all rng

[viscid swift]

hardly

[final heart]

should I replace ranger with any of them?

[viscid swift]

do you know how the old OpSi shops work

[undone plover]

how many gold bulins do u have?
centaur is good

[storm heron]

you buy out all the stuff to rotate

[viscid swift]

do you have enough gold Bullins to MLB them

[storm heron]

total is the same but you have to make sure to buy all of them

[viscid swift]

not quite but yes

[storm heron]

and since you only have 4 days, it's rng

[final heart]

I have a lot a lot

[viscid swift]

if you leave things to the last minute then well, you have no one but yourself to blame

[viscid swift]

sure start leveling up Ticonderoga on the side

[final heart]

what about enterprise when I get her later in the future?

[viscid swift]

her as well

[final heart]

one more thing
I sorted iron blood and I didn't see hipper meta so I'm wondering if I level her up, will it count towards iron blood tech points?

[eternal moth]

She's META faction, not IB

[peak mulch]

No I don't, when I played years ago I never did op siren

[viscid swift]

that wasn't pointed to you

[peak mulch]

That's fine I'm dumb right now anyways

[storm heron]

[peak mulch]

How do I find the monthly shop for op siren

[storm heron]

go to one of the blue ports, then click "resupply" on bottom right

and then see how many stuff is there

[hoary scarab]

do i really need 3 stars on all of these to do the hard mode ?

[storm heron]

yes that's what chapter 1 hard mode's requirement is

you can unlock chapter 2's hard mode without 3 starring those though

[eternal moth]

And to 3* the chapter 1 hard modes you'll have to turn off CLearing Mode

[hoary scarab]

i see

I might do all this another day, but I think i get the jist of the early game then it's bitties. Hopefully this game does not manage to sit on my desktop for a month

[bold cove]

After fdg, iron blood tech is my least care faction points

[sinful escarp]

tip for doing 3 star in hard mode: Clear the map and kill all mobs and boss

[peak mulch]

What do these coordinate things do in op siren?

[sinful escarp]

for the kill x amount of mobs, after clearing the mobs, leave and repeat until you complete

[ivory pawn]

They make a yellow chest icon spawn on the map, which you can clear for more rewards. Worth it if you can clear them.

[hoary scarab]

thanks again for you the help you guys

[final heart]

I'm bad at choosing meta, I saw the name and the color scheme and I was sold hard

[elder grove]

what is iowa class shipgirls? say some post about it when I was searching discord

[barren tapir]

new jersey

[soft raft]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa-class_battleship

[storm heron]

they give you more "levels" or "zones" to clear and get rewards

[soft raft]

New Jersey is currently the only Iowa class in the game

[elder grove]

ahh, so very rare class of shipgirl/eventually shipgirls

or is that a thing they do UR are unique classes

[sharp socket]

theres just only NJ as iowa class in the game

[barren tapir]

ship classes is an irl thing carried over into the game

well somewhat

[undone plover]

not every UR is a unique class
essex is an SR
yorktown II is UR
both are essex class

as far as the game is concerned class matters for certain skills and that is it I think

[barren tapir]

some memento collections also iirc? just as the name for it

[soft raft]

Some URs are also just fictional classes or based off of projects that never left the drawing board
Bismarck Zwei and Unzen for examples of both respectively

[viscid swift]

Not like many capital ship classes had large production runs to begin with

[stark quiver]

What was yk2 an actual ship?

[viscid swift]

Yes

She still around today too

[eternal moth]

She was an Essex-class carrier, renamed after the original was sunk

[soft raft]

All the American 2s are real ships

[viscid swift]

In Charleston, South Carolina alongside Laffey 2

[stark quiver]

Interesting

[storm heron]

[eternal moth]

Hornet 2 also still exists, and is a museum ship in Alameda, CA. AL was actually at CarrierCon there this year and last

[sharp token]

just got agir, can anyone help me how to build her

maybe you got some builds i can follow

[wind hazel]

budget if you dont have better cb gun

nicer guns

[eternal moth]

If you don't have at least the gold you probably shouldn't be using Agir

[wind hazel]

[eternal moth]

Since you can get it from protocores

[lament ledge]

Any tips?

[wind hazel]

i would use a dev30 agir...

[wind hazel]

dont use her lol

[eternal moth]

I don't know if it's worth it, since she needs a 305mm+ gun to activate her skill

[eternal moth]

Auxes and main gun are terrible. Use a triple 406, white shell and FCR if you don't have gold white and black shells

[barren tapir]

also limitbreak your ships

or rather, dont use her because UR bulins are more worth on modern URs. unless waifu

[eternal moth]

If you don't have any bulins for her, she's not worth using, since she only has one main gun, not 3

She gets her other guns at LB1 and LB3

[wind hazel]

which 305mm

[eternal moth]

Oh, it's 280 or higher, never mind

[sharp socket]

basically use CB gun

[sharp token]

i don't have beaver, any replacement?

[sharp socket]

toolkit

[wind hazel]

any eva aux

toolkit become less effective on ship like agir

[sharp socket]

since CB eva aux better, but if dont have any then washing machine + toolkit/torp bulge

[barren tapir]

blue eva pretty easy to get

although for mobbing specifically id take toolkit over blue eva, bossing use blue eva

[wind hazel]

recent TLR collab have some good eva aux i think?

[barren tapir]

yes

[storm heron]

sneaky good

[waxen imp]

good mob&boss fleet for 11-1 to 11-4?

[storm heron]

people should sort ships by level instead of rarity

[plain saffron]

10 lvl70 common ships on top

[storm heron]

unfortunately shiniy syndrome is more common than grey syndrome

[soft raft]

All of those partly limit broken URs.....
Why....

[waxen imp]

(i just came back)

[slow fox]

I forgot to answer this question specifically.

For DD's, it's anywhere from 5-15% depending on the balance between their EVA-like stats,and their HP-like stats.

For CA's, it's about 2%.

I haven't done a calc for CL's yet.

[wind hazel]

is that owari mlb?

[sharp socket]

uhhh
mob: richelieu, unicorn, independence, adalbert(?), javelin, yukikaze
boss: ulrich, enterprise, taihou, tank, san diego, cheshire/noshiro (??)
yea i don't know probably

[waxen imp]

yes..

[viscid swift]

can you get any UR Bullins right now

[sharp socket]

i assume stuff will just work since its w11 and you have the levels for it

[waxen imp]

i can buy 5 (saved up stuff)

[viscid swift]

max limit break Implacable and Vanguard then

[waxen imp]

okok

[rigid onyx]

Do the sticker quests from the event do anything non cosmetic

[sharp socket]

his backline is pretty solid for someone at w11, but the frontline looks sus but probably still workable because its not hard campaign worlds

[viscid swift]

with that in mind
Mob: UvH, Unicorn, Independence, Adalbert, Javelin, Swiftsure
Boss: Vanguard, Implacable, Enterprise, Cheshire, San Diego, Saint Louis

[glossy granite]

Why dosent my fleet appear when i want to do hard mode?

[viscid swift]

not ideal but it'll serve

[sharp socket]

cheeky theres an MLB. uvh in there

[eternal moth]

Furniture

[sharp socket]

meh it still works i guess

[ivory pawn]

Hard mode has ship requirements to fulfill, so you build a fleet to fulfill the requirements on the stage's menu instead.

[earnest crag]

Does limit breaking one of these characters here increase star progress for the item listed here?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[scenic mesa]

Does anyone have a review or rating of Fritz Rumey yet?

[tacit jasper]

is there a hard level where you can farm Magnetic Torps(Surface)? (i always run out of these things)

[viscid swift]

Well no, still need a bit more time to max her and none of the current bosses play to her focus really so there isn't a good place to test her

[mellow cape]

Ngl the reviews for rumey makes her seem not worth to max

[viscid swift]

They drop from IB tech boxes and you can craft then for the gear lab

[viscid swift]

What reviews

[mellow cape]

CN loll, her damage seems to be over calced initially

[viscid swift]

What a shock/s

[mellow cape]

Is that common?

[viscid swift]

Well yeah

[tacit jasper]

i really dun like opening tech boxes though.... pain to dismante unwanted & gear space...

[viscid swift]

They are calcs after all

[mellow cape]

Fair mmm still worth to max fritz?

[viscid swift]

Just do a massive clear and throw a bunch of unused gear on ships

[viscid swift]

Well yes, she's still a UR and where her strengths are pretty obvious

[sweet delta]

is rumey dead?

[sharp socket]

i have lots of copium faith for fritz, hope to see that her strength gets recognised in something

[coarse heron]

yeah, W15

that's the only time an 8 fighter loadout seems useful right now

[eternal moth]

It's a good thing that's not her only possible loadout

[sharp socket]

i would think 8x140% fighters would fit in light/med bossing comp

[eternal moth]

8 LA-9 sounds pretty juicy

[hollow gust]

We really doom posting , has noone learned after Yorktown

[eternal moth]

Of course not

[mellow cape]

About to drop another IB ur CV that is faction dependent to make rumey worth 😂 but yeah York had similar vibes

[void merlin]

Two questions,

1. why is it in some battles in operation siren give me exp and other don’t? Is there a way I can check if the battles will give me exp before I start them so that I’m not waisting my time

2. if I have a main fleet character that is already 125, and I am developing a ship that requires exp from the main fleet of that characters nation, does any exp the 125 character would get count towards that or is it that once a character is level 125 it pointless to use for ship development?

[sharp socket]

125 ship still gets level for cdc

[eternal moth]

1. Blue enemies don't give XP.

[plain saffron]

1.zone that use AP gives exp, mobs that spawn infinitely in any zone doesn't give EXP
2.it give exp still

[keen sable]

1. press auto.
2. left

[bold cove]

2. Yes, max lev ship still count toward combat data xp

[eternal moth]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[dreamy blade]

the blue ships don't give exp which are from dailies or spawn in later

also yeah auto will ignore them

[bold cove]

Yeah just hit auto and do something else

[void merlin]

Thanks all! Been trying to get enough exp for my last level 5 ship so that I can move on to a new one (and I’m out of oil so I can’t grind in the event)

[eternal moth]

Don't grind OpSi for PR XP

[rigid onyx]

What fleet tech to prioritize for vanguards?

[eternal moth]

FP

[bold cove]

FP, HP, EVA

[wind hazel]

cruisers eva>fp

[jaunty vault]

EVA for cruisers then FP

[mellow cape]

After you rent a skin can you just buy it

[jaunty vault]

yeah sure

[mellow cape]

Or do you have to wait for rent period to be over

Where do I do that cause I can't seem to find it

[eternal moth]

The shop or the ship

[rigid onyx]

idt any half-decent game would ever make you jump through hoops to spend premium currency

[wind hazel]

they are all here

[mellow cape]

Ooooh ty

[eternal moth]

I hear FFXIV can be an actual hassle to throw money at sometimes.

[mellow cape]

Idk why I thought I had to wait but yeah you can't buy it from the ship screen

[eternal moth]

ANd if you click Renting nothing happens?

[mellow cape]

Ty mori lol

Yeah nothing happens

[upper raptor]

where do i buy cake gift boxes?

[dreamy blade]

is hit/rld tech for cruisers less useful than fp, i know eva is the important one

also does hp tech for dd really make a difference

[slow fox]

HP tech for DDs contribute less total then EVA tech for DDs.

HP tech for DDs improves their survivability by about 10-15%.

[storm heron]

I think it was debatable at that point, they didn't give me a concrete answer when I ask about those 3

[eternal moth]

I know heavy cruiser RLD is really important, since it affects CBs

[dreamy blade]

im looking at my hms vg ships to level for cheshire and theyre almost all asw

i suppose 10-15% survivability does seem pretty good in comparison

[storm heron]

I don't think you can compare that, since there are many dd hp tech

[eternal moth]

AFAIK you're still better off prioritizing FP for DDs over HP. Do HP once FP is complete

[storm heron]

it's like the hmm, 1 Hp is worth less than 1 eva

[dreamy blade]

yeah but it's not like there are a ton of (easily accesible) options for fp tech, when i was grinding anchorage i only had cooper for uss

[raven canyon]

ignoring the levels, can anyone give me some feedback on my boss and mob fleet

[storm heron]

that's what mebot means right by saying "Hp tech contribute less total than EVA for DD" ?

[wind hazel]

lol DD Hp...

[slow fox]

EVA tech contributes more to eHP than HP tech, for DDs.

[keen sable]

eva stronk on all vanguards

[dreamy blade]

getting a ship to 120 for 1 singular point of hp just seemed pretty cope to me

[wind hazel]

why even recommend hp after fp rather you do trp or rld or hit

[storm heron]

also there is a lot of dd fp, particularly all the Zs

[bold cove]

Shopshire, London

[dreamy star]

i need help on chapter 13 🥲

[dreamy blade]

yes those 2 are why i intially asked about hit and rld tech

[wind hazel]

dump mainfleet and vanguard in a thread

[dreamy blade]

ok i guess it's just a uss/hms problem

[keen sable]

it's two fleets. bama is kind of out of place. and i think that weak, the ur should boss

[formal robin]

which map coordinates for op siren are worth the AP?

[karmic pebble]

The 2 event urs... who should I focus on first..like who's better

[bold cove]

Oh large cruiser is different with Battle ship and battle cruiser right?

[storm heron]

(ignoring lb and level) the mob fleet can easily do w13, the boss fleet though w12 level

[dreamy blade]

c3 if you value your sanity, some will say c1 grind is worth it

[humble tapir]

guys which ur exchange ship is the best? i have nj and shimakaze already

[keen sable]

just do them all?

[plain saffron]

Casual just spam c5 after you are done with all the floating icons

[wind hazel]

shinano

[dreamy blade]

always shinano until she is mlb

[storm heron]

do you have a personal thread?

[bold cove]

Shinano

[raven canyon]

well musashi was the fs of my boss and bama was my mob back then but people said that musashi is good for mob fleet so noe i dont really have any strong BB for my boss fleet

[humble tapir]

alr alr tq

[eternal moth]

Boss > mob, put Sushi in boss fleet

[raven canyon]

alright thanks alot

[dreamy blade]

sushi crossfleet will still let your mob fleet have an easier time

[viscid swift]

Musashi is good for mobbing but that doesn't mean she's bad for bossing at all and she'll be much more impactful in your boas fleet

[raven canyon]

i guess so huh

[viscid swift]

Context also matters

[raven canyon]

though i wonder if theres any better CA for my mob fleet instead of roon

[viscid swift]

Here's a tip, when we say stuff try and look at what the context is rather than take it at face value

[dreamy star]

Ch.13 help

[dreamy blade]

assuming your roon has her unique aug then shes fine

[keen sable]

plenty but if you don't have them...

[raven canyon]

you could give me a few names

[eternal moth]

Anchorage, Agir, and other CB

[raven canyon]

i mean i could craft it rn

[raven canyon]

i see

[viscid swift]

You should along with Saratoga's and Shangri-La's

[viscid swift]

It is but so is a single point of FP

The point of tech is that it adds up and to stack it

[dreamy blade]

i mean not really when a dd can have <100 fp

[atomic abyss]

[raven canyon]

for my boss fleet? or mob?

[viscid swift]

But yes HP is cope

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

I have to agree with card here
HP tech is just cope beyond belief

[viscid swift]

Especially when only about 50 of the 250 comes from 120ing ships

Like I agree , just not with the reasoning

[atomic abyss]

If HP tech gave a non negligible about of HP it'd be different

[viscid swift]

Uh what

[dreamy blade]

i mean +1 fp is a 1% gain while +1hp is 0.1%...dont see how thats the same

[storm heron]

I mean at least cardslinger actually understand why

[raven canyon]

oh nvm i didnt read that clearly enough

[viscid swift]

Not for DDs but like +1 FP on a BB

[bold cove]

I guess for vanguard Hms combat data, if youre planing to 120 3 ships

[viscid swift]

In perspective in fleet tech as a whole

[raven canyon]

im not sure if i have any replacement for them though

[dreamy blade]

[viscid swift]

One point of anything is just not significant

[bold cove]

I think tech fleet from Javelin, Glowworm and matchless, theyre all EVA

[slow fox]

what

[viscid swift]

But that's not why we grind fleet tech

[dreamy blade]

isnt that the point tho, like prioritizing evasion for cruisers since they have so little of it naturally

[keen sable]

they're saying to also get their augs in addition to roon's

[bold cove]

Yeah, Javelin, glow worm and matchless had eva tech

[raven canyon]

oh okay now i get it

[slow fox]

-# EVA Tech for CAs give about 1.59% more eHP

[viscid swift]

Yes

[raven canyon]

wondering if i should spend my bulins on Z52

[viscid swift]

Not sure what point you're trying to make here

[bold cove]

If after neptune combat data not enough to 120, you can use the same for Plymouth

[viscid swift]

Well how many bullins do you have and what other URs do you need to limit break

[dreamy blade]

my point is idk what this response was trying to say

[barren tapir]

so how much ehp does eva tech give dds anyway?

[atomic abyss]

Very cope

But tbh, it depends on the individual DD

[storm heron]

I mean mebot calculated ehp for hp tech

[barren tapir]

more or less cope than hp

[atomic abyss]

For HMS DDs more eva barely benefits them

For the Germans or the DDGs who have less, the benefit more

[barren tapir]

im mostly curious about the low eva dds, lets say the 190-230 range

[raven canyon]

is this thing good?

[bold cove]

DD usually have high eva but low HP right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but it can only be used on CBs like Agir

[raven canyon]

sweet

[eternal moth]

You know, you can ask BEFORE crafting gear if it's good or not

[wind hazel]

i will craft and enhance before i ask

[barren tapir]

tbh if eva tech ends up giving more ehp than hp tech that makes it pretty decent. more than 15% spread across like 25 points + faction tech is not the worst deal imo

[viscid swift]

My point is that a single point of any fleet tech is basically cope in terms of tangible difference

[raven canyon]

i see craftable gold gear, i craft

[barren tapir]

but im curious what mebot thinks about it

[viscid swift]

So by that logic why grind tech at all which is flawed to say the least

[dreamy blade]

and again i fail to see how gaining 1 fp on a base of 70 is the same as gaining 1 hp on a base of 1500

[barren tapir]

fleet tech is the epitome of 'every little bit helps'

[bold cove]

Grindtech along combat data to optimize for new

[barren tapir]

it takes ages to build but the final result is quite significant over much time and grind

[viscid swift]

Hp tech is bad not because 1 point of HP is a negligible amount of improvement but because there isn't enough of it to make a practical difference and there are far better things to prioritize

[barren tapir]

youll max it all eventually and get that 10% ehp anyway kek

[viscid swift]

Which given how long the grind takes is something that bust be born in mind

[storm heron]

[south sequoia]

Not to mention the costs and the chips

How much oil it'll take

[viscid swift]

Would you actually notice the difference

[bold cove]

Most ships give HP tech went first acquire

[viscid swift]

Statistically it is more significant but being practical

[barren tapir]

honestly rld tech is the most impactful cos you can notice it when needing to sync things. everything else individually is tiny af

[keen sable]

i don't think that has any bearing. your going to 120 *something*

[dreamy blade]

i dont have to, it's just numbers

[barren tapir]

me struggling to sync on auto to warspite

[wind hazel]

[south sequoia]

If you're going to 120 something, might as well make sure it'd be worth your time then you work your way down

[wind hazel]

oh warspite challenge mode i thought you were using warspite

[barren tapir]

arguably none of them are worth the time in a vacuum and arguably all are worth the time when looked at as a whole

[wind hazel]

my brain froze and thought, what's there to sync with warspite HUH

[obsidian ivy]

QEM is heavy yeah?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[storm heron]

yeah if u got a "failure" unzen's torp will desync

[barren tapir]

at the end of the day every fleet tech stat, regardless of what it is, makes your waifu stronger

[bold cove]

Tennesse class, nevada class... Well, late late account stuffs

[storm heron]

Unfortunately I can only get 4 minutes sharp with all I've got

[viscid swift]

Anyway this is all rather pointless

[obsidian ivy]

Impla Amagi shinano, helmet kaza unzen okay for QEM?

[barren tapir]

in the end i couldnt sync enough for hard (managed to auto normal tho at least) so i just manualled it

[viscid swift]

Because you get 256 HP total from tech for DDs

[storm heron]

dangit alpha how

[viscid swift]

But only about 50 of that actually comes from 120inh ships

So you're gain from the grind is actually 50 not 256

[barren tapir]

so collect dds for hp instead, and 120 eva

[viscid swift]

Because the other 200 doesn't take nearly as much effort

256 HP is actually still a decent amount

50 is not

[bold cove]

Half the lunchbox

[barren tapir]

i wonder if with max eva tech will the high hp dds like felix still want rudder or go back to toolkit

[dreamy blade]

[crimson grove]

Is hermit heavy?

[viscid swift]

They would just want the HP even more

Because of diminishing returns and such

[bold cove]

Z52 DD use 2 lunch box, right?

[viscid swift]

Like pretty much all DDs yes

[barren tapir]

according to mebot calc iirc there's a few dds that initially want rudder, im wondering if tech changes that

[viscid swift]

Not really

On ships like Felix its about the same

[barren tapir]

bearing in mind 36 eva is basically a rudder but 256 hp is half a toolkit, from tech

[storm heron]

if nakh is used to sync, will the torp converge if she's in third position with 0.36 launch time difference on last airstrike?

[viscid swift]

So you'd go with HP because it's more consistent

[atomic abyss]

see, it's not because of the evasion stat it gives tho

it's because of the rudder's passive

[keen sable]

hp is diminishing returns also so i have no idea what that is supposed to prove. but neither hp nor eva is a true diminishing return stat like reload.

[barren tapir]

i thought it's a combination of both that makes it competitive

[viscid swift]

The difference is HP is it's constant

[keen sable]

eva is basically constant

[stark quiver]

Too much Helena

[viscid swift]

The more HP you have the more damage the enemy has to go through to kill your ships

[barren tapir]

isnt ehp a factor of both

i wanna know mebot's opinion on this

[viscid swift]

With EVA the smaller the increase in stuff you actually evade and such

[barren tapir]

since i mean, the more hits you dodge the longer you survive

[keen sable]

10% EVA does not become useless just because you have 1000 EVA vs 100 EVA.

[barren tapir]

well ackshually it does if you hit 90% which is the hardcap

[viscid swift]

I never did say that

[storm heron]

if I have eld for slow, kazagumo, unzen for interrupt, how do I put helena in?
I tried nakh alone for slow but it was not enough, so many torp missing

[barren tapir]

but also the last few bits of eva give the most ehp dont they...

going from 80% to 90% doubles your ehp

[viscid swift]

Anyway

[sweet delta]

but going from 80% to 90% will cost hundreds of extra eva

[barren tapir]

true, but eva should still contribute a decent amount

[keen sable]

yes because doubling eHP through EVA essentially requires doubling EVA just like double eHP through HP requires doubling HP.

[barren tapir]

maybe moreso if the ship's lck is high and/or has a strong evarate skill, since those apply after raw eva

at least afaik. so it takes a ship from say 65% to 75% with 10% evarate, so...80% to 90% for example which is why evarate is so good

[viscid swift]

My point is that the extra evasion could net you nothing in the way of extra HP or at least very little because of the enemy you're fighting

Like a high hit boss which just nullifies evasion like old EX bosses

The HP will always buy you something

[barren tapir]

i mean, 36 eva on 200 is still an increase of 18%, it seems pretty good, considering a double toolkit dd has let's say 3000-3500 and goes to 3250-3750, an increase of less than 10%

[viscid swift]

That's what I mean by more consistent

All I know is when mebot did the comparison

It was pretty much dead even

[barren tapir]

i will agree hp is more consistent since stuff like 9999 hit bosses do exist

but i think eva can be very strong under certain contents as well

[viscid swift]

And I'm willing to defer to and trust his word on this

[dreamy blade]

hp better just evade manually

[barren tapir]

eva better imagine playing on manual

[storm heron]

damn 80% slow is enough on taihou to reach 100% geom hitrate

requirement of both first 2 radar to proc

[viscid swift]

Well among other things eva is a different thing from evasion rate

[storm heron]

sample: 3/3 assists, 100% kill rate so far

[sharp socket]

80% slow? from where?

[viscid swift]

Nakimov and Eldridge stacking

[barren tapir]

eld and something ig?

[sharp socket]

doesn't it extend length and not potency

[viscid swift]

No

[barren tapir]

what i want to know is what beef you fed your helena is that plygun power

[sharp socket]

ender lied to me then

[storm heron]

what is implacable?

[viscid swift]

This

[storm heron]

uuu kowai

[wind hazel]

cheeky what's the winrate of that comp?

[viscid swift]

Not sure actually in its most recent form

At least 50% though

[storm heron]

50% seems small

[viscid swift]

Got 4/5 so far

[wind hazel]

mog double radar right?

or you put offensive aux

[viscid swift]

Not anymore
Toolbox and one AA radar

[wind hazel]

oh, she died on you?

[sharp socket]

CVs can 4strike with some mildly cursed cooking right

[viscid swift]

I need her to survive until the last round of airtsrikes

[sharp socket]

like bearcat and saiun kai spam kind of cooking

[viscid swift]

6% trp damage was costing me the one shot on numerous occasions

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

No implac?

[sharp socket]

i might try something like that then, depending on how my current setup goes

[storm heron]

nah, I observe a 100% geom hit rate with that so far, no torp missing

I will give my build in a moment since I forgot to do hardmode and I have to be ready to sandbag

[stark quiver]

X% slow probably won’t work, warspite is too fast

[storm heron]

oh that warspite

[stark quiver]

Bruh what are we talking abt 💀

[sharp socket]

my game lags to like 5 fps when all CVs fired and even more when they hit so i cant exactly see how eld's 60% slow does for hitrate

[storm heron]

yeah I don't have implac, my torp missing even with 80% slow

but it's better than just 60% slow from eld or nakh alone

[storm heron]

I ENed lmao, sorry too happy for maihou

[storm heron]

also did you post your warspite build in trophy room?

[sharp socket]

how do you get 80% anyway, is it slow to 60% then extra slow on the remaining 40%?

[storm heron]

yeah, but slows are capped at 80

[sharp socket]

thatd be 84% if my napkin math is correct

[storm heron]

so it should've been 84% if they allowed it

[sharp socket]

hm so slows have a cap

[viscid swift]

Yeah, don't know why but it is what it is

[whole crypt]

it used to be uncapped and additive that was fun

[viscid swift]

Really, that's some new trivia to add to the pile

[whole crypt]

well there weren't a lot of slow effects in year 0 so they probably didn't think of it at first

I can't remember which slow effect addition made them realize it but ships started going backwards

[soft raft]

Would Freezes counted as 100% and then you could stack it to like 200% if you really wanted lol

[stark quiver]

It was just the sushi guild build + Helena

[storm heron]

which one though, suchi has implac. Wait do you have implac

I thought we are the same

[stark quiver]

Soon™️

[storm heron]

at least in 3 months

[viscid swift]

At his luck probably longer

[sweet delta]

freezes are not slows, and slows are not freezes

[stark quiver]

100% slow = freeze?

[bold cove]

I saw some player use sirius, does that ship require to do something in end game content?

[storm heron]

sirius is to buff CV

[viscid swift]

I don't know about end game these days but she's a buffer for CVs that's not an ARA

[atomic abyss]

sirius's CV buffs stacks with the most common CV buff

[storm heron]

buff is more apparent for enemy if they are dd/cl/ca

otherwise idk if people nowadays use sirius that often

[bold cove]

So raise her if i can?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[atomic abyss]

for opsi and metas, maybe CMs too

[bold cove]

Ah okay, training her to unlock Plymouth is a win win

[atomic abyss]

let's say anti light
kearsage for ARA, Laff2, Aurora and Sirius

oh and one major advantage is sirius buff remains even when she's been unalived

ARA specifically needs the ship to be afloat

[bold cove]

Aurora, the elite hms ship?

[stark quiver]

Yah
Idk if she’s hms but she’s purple

[atomic abyss]

aurora is good for both BB and CV teams facing light

she is HMS

[bold cove]

Doesnt know that elite ships have some use, ill replace aurora and sirius for combat data grinding

[atomic abyss]

looks at helena

[stark quiver]

Aurora skill makes dd and cl have less Eva so that’s good

[atomic abyss]

looks at all the kears/kazagumo alternatives that are purple or even blue

[storm heron]

ddgs

also I have heard that no one can beat aurora when she's cooking

[bold cove]

Im using javelin, Edinburgh and london to grinding and hope for tech, but now i know there is Aurora and Sirius

[storm heron]

I mean the ship

[atomic abyss]

While this ship is afloat: decreases the Evasion Rate of all enemy DDs and CLs by 20.0%.

not just evasion

evasion rate

[forest palm]

Use Aurora far less than expected tbh

[storm heron]

what does this mean? does this mean it is mandatory?

[jaunty vault]

it means not required aka not mandatory but what are you doing

[storm heron]

wait really?

[stark quiver]

All but required means not required

[storm heron]

welp good thing I asked

[sinful escarp]

Everything except

[storm heron]

cause I thought it is mandatory and I was complaining how unzen's torp just desync when blinded even once

[viscid swift]

It is mandatory

[storm heron]

It's the warspite CM btw

[primal silo]

184 pulls, 414 cubes
Thinking of getting another copy

*of fritz

[storm heron]

do you value 1 UR Bulin more or 32 27 cubes

[atomic abyss]

do you have yk2

[primal silo]

No
I'm missing her and implac

[atomic abyss]

then save

yk2 rerunning on 9th

[primal silo]

Okay

[barren tapir]

"all but required" means "almost 100% mandatory"

[wanton dawn]

is laffey 2 generally better than mogador?

[atomic abyss]

completely different uses

[viscid swift]

They do very different things

[elfin hollow]

chat what does the aviation nuke in w15 even do, I used it on boss fleet and it didn't do any damage and it doesn't say in game what it's effects are

[agile harness]

is worth to mlb fritz even if i dont have bismarck 2?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[storm heron]

well apparently there are contradicting opinions

cause EN is everybody

[viscid swift]

That synergy will rarely ever be used

[elfin hollow]

yes she gets mvp for me in w15

[agile harness]

um, is she used for mob or boss fleets

[elfin hollow]

I'm using her for mob fleet, didn't test for boss

[whole crypt]

can be both but more often boss

[viscid swift]

Given the context and the fact I'm a native speaker

[whole crypt]

all but required means not required

[soft raft]

That's cuz it doesn't deal damage to the boss node

Only works on mobs

[viscid swift]

I'm inclined to say it means it's required basically in this context

[whole crypt]

but context matters

[elfin hollow]

Well then it's useless for me cuz i clear mobs with ez

[sweet delta]

and I'm a native writer

[whole crypt]

what's that even for

[viscid swift]

Warspite CM guide I preume

[sweet delta]

warspite triple CV fleet

[viscid swift]

Also

[whole crypt]

I honestly don't remember what I did for the CMs anymore

[jaunty vault]

me neither but who cares

[whole crypt]

the later ones had too much HP bloat to be done with bulin MVP

[wanton dawn]

can i know more abt it?

[jaunty vault]

this just proves the point that it is not mandatory
maybe dont use contradictory language

[storm heron]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to start a fight

[viscid swift]

It's a bit of pragmatism

[atomic abyss]

mogador is mostly a really strong DPS against light armour
but she has niche uses as a torp dmg buffer and her "stun" from her lunge, which can act as a freeze

laffey 2 is a tank and an AA carry primarily

[storm heron]

I'm just checking my comprehension

[viscid swift]

There's an off chance that it could work without it

[atomic abyss]

so they fill completely different roles

[viscid swift]

But practically speaking it is required is what was meant

[atomic abyss]

if you had to choose which one to mlb first between the 2, it'd definitely be laff2

tho if you asked between laff2 and Z52 yeah that one is a bit harder to choose

[wanton dawn]

icic thanks, we are still not getting z52 anytime soon lol in tw server so im gd on that. we are getting mogador soon, and im just seeing if i shld save

[viscid swift]

Like seriously did no one bother looking at the context on that one yikes

[atomic abyss]

i would rather you save the bulins for backline URs

to be fair

the language is unnecessarily complicated but

someone with not so stellar english definitely would have issues

[viscid swift]

Is it?

[jaunty vault]

its for pragmatism ender

he's a native speaker

[storm heron]

I am stellar english.

[wind hazel]

👍🏼

[sweet delta]

they aren't 100% required though

[atomic abyss]

fybre that sentence just proved it isnt stellar...

[viscid swift]

Yes

That's why it was worded in that manner

[jaunty vault]

[viscid swift]

Or all but required as was said

[storm heron]

maybe are highly recommended

[viscid swift]

The point is

Could it work without it, possibly but it is unlikely so just do it is what was meant by that turn of phrase

[atomic abyss]

and trust me

i have seen people's mod apps saying that they are "fluent" in english

[wind hazel]

if the few words chosen can cause this confusion, maybe it is better to rephrase it

[atomic abyss]

but are barely past the level of intermediate...

[viscid swift]

I would agree normally

But no body actually seemed to even understand the context of what that was in

[jaunty vault]

have you seen mine

[atomic abyss]

ofc i have

[wind hazel]

yes the context here make it very obvious

[viscid swift]

Precisely

[wind hazel]

tl;dr, doggo's fault

[storm heron]

why me again

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately this isnt an english class so i cant say much more

[jaunty vault]

because you can't read

[storm heron]

I was doubting myself, just wanna make sure

I mean it was partly my fault to assume that everyone is familiar with suchi's guides

[whole crypt]

I don't even know they exist

[agile harness]

a back line with aquila musashi fritz (boss fleet) can works for stage 14 and 15?

[stark quiver]

Aquila should be in mob

[viscid swift]

It can but why you wouldn't use Musashi, Aquila, Unicorn for the mob fleet is beyond me

[atomic abyss]

sushi just better in mob

[agile harness]

well, BB for boss fleet i only have fdg so

[viscid swift]

FdG is still excellent for w14 boss fleets

Less so for W15 but by the time you tackle that you should have better anyway

[crude fable]

Is the meta in this event good to use?._.

[viscid swift]

Not really but she is +1 avi at 120

[tropic tusk]

There no harm in getting meta right as they don't cost space? Or am I wrong

[crude fable]

Uh so it good or not?._.

[storm heron]

if you decide to quit SP and B3/D3 for some reason

[atomic abyss]

uhhhhhhh cheeky they meant hipper
who is HP tech

[viscid swift]

Hipper just exists

She's not bad but not that good either

[tropic tusk]

Oh Ur talking about event meta ,but still does meta cost U dock space?

[viscid swift]

Shit 120 tech, and requires extra resources to enhance

[sweet delta]

or if you farm B3 to 64k and still no drop

[storm heron]

ouch, hopefully won't happen to me, at 54k rn

[hollow flame]

Came back to play consistently for the first time in like 4 years anyone know where I can easily grind for combat data collection without losing my mind?

[viscid swift]

W12

Or since there's an event going on D3

[keen sable]

D3

[hollow flame]

Guess I'll do D3 because I'm still at W8

Ägir grind starts now

[pseudo saffron]

Loading adept vs artillery ace? For cats

[stark quiver]

Do you guys book ships to lvl 70 or 100 to grind with them

[hollow flame]

Wait fdg or Ägir? Which one should I grind for first?

[stark quiver]

Fdg

[storm heron]

I dorm them to 97

[viscid swift]

Just 70 these days

I then rotate them in and out of the dorms as space opens up

[hollow flame]

Gonna need 2 more people to help me choose

[upper jasper]

btw how much blueprint i need for Friedrich ?

[sweet delta]

fdg

[viscid swift]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[keen sable]

0...you really don't want any and to coin it all 513+215

[viscid swift]

Fdg

[upper jasper]

okay

[hollow flame]

Damn overwhelming 3-0 vote

[stark quiver]

Reason being once got finish fdg, you can start coining her faster while also researching and developing pr4

[storm heron]

imo the only reason why you can choose agir over fdg is if you have 2 UR BBs already, otherwise fdg is so valuable since we have BB drought till bs zwei

[hollow flame]

My Musashi and NJ:

[barren tapir]

the context demonstrates it's the first definition

[storm heron]

are they like maxed?

[hollow flame]

Yeah

[keen sable]

yes fdg first but also because it's a downright pain to switch from main to van to main

[hollow flame]

I got like 24 hours to decide on who to research

[storm heron]

welp it's whatever then, do what you want, people pick fdg just to coin her faster, but agir definitely has more use than than her at this point

[keen sable]

the one you currently picked

[storm heron]

or heck do avp if you have enough tanks

[barren tapir]

avp is great if you don't have impla

[sharp socket]

who were the URs before soyuz, i know theres laffey 2

[storm heron]

guam laffii

[sharp socket]

autocorrect tf

[storm heron]

unjen

[barren tapir]

unzen, biszwei, impla

[sweet delta]

warspite

[hollow flame]

Nope I only got 720 after getting z52

[sharp socket]

so its guam/laff2, unzen, bzwei? in reverse order

im not that far to catchup then, have basically all BB except perma and bzwei

once you catchup on URs does spec core become less of a drought

[sweet delta]

wtf why are we still here, i already changed it like 20 minutes ago

[wind hazel]

[rigid onyx]

How many free tickets do UR reruns give

[sharp socket]

44

[pallid robin]

Anyone knows what this pictures means? https://imgur.com/a/gCXZbgO

[storm heron]

ah yes from the twitter

[wind hazel]

looks like DPS chart, light medium heavy

[pallid robin]

I see. Thank you. Btw, who are those SSR BBs on the left? I suppose they are very good to be compared with URs.

[storm heron]

daisen, owari

[atomic abyss]

daisen, then owari
they are noticeably behind the UR BBs in practice tho

[bold cove]

Oh the last column, thats why eld, sirius, helena, aurora, agir... I dont have the second ship

[sweet delta]

i think something went wrong because Owari definitely does more damage than Daisen in my tests against two different bosses

[atomic abyss]

last column shd be rDPS?

owari has more focused dmg

[tame pivot]

Btw, when in Jan does the shop usually get updated with the PR stuff + Gear Lab? Started playing at the end of Jan this year so I have no clue..

[sweet delta]

the picture says single target

there's no rdps, the main fleet just has a description like "UR" vs "Strong UR", and the vanguard's fourth number is survivability

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt bother trying to guess that way

cos it depends how they plan events

[sharp socket]

it just comes during that time based on past knowledge

[atomic abyss]

i would assume it's after yk2 rerun but

[bold cove]

Next gear lab is the gear from pr4?

[tame pivot]

I was just curious if its usually near the beginning or end. All I hear before was its usually in Jan. but that makes sense!

[atomic abyss]

all PR4 gear is in lab except tenrai iirc

[bold cove]

So tenrai and pr5 gold gear

[tame pivot]

Yeahh, got gear lab resources saved just for that!

[pseudo saffron]

Loading ace 3 vs vs rookie lookout 1? For cats

[sharp socket]

none is

bf109g, saiun kai, etc are not in gearlab

[pseudo saffron]

Or rookie aviation

[storm heron]

this is very context dependent'

might as well screenshot your talent and what cats

[sharp socket]

doesn't matter that much cause flame/mountain is more important

[pseudo saffron]

For my boos fleet

[sharp socket]

no flame/mountain = dont bother rolling

[whole crypt]

take the lookout and call it a day

[sharp socket]

still okay cat anyway

[whole crypt]

just don't bother rerolling the talents

[pseudo saffron]

K

[sharp socket]

cats is just coin sink with minimal reward

[bold cove]

Well you will have a bunch of sr cat before a cat reach to max lev

[tough shuttle]

Yo guys how do you get enough oil to do basically anything? I woke up, did 4 stages and ran out of fuel I got overnight 😦

[tropic tusk]

have u check mail

mail > storage

[bold cove]

Hmm never enough, alot of peoples struggle to reserve the oil for 9th jan farming

[storm heron]

this is accurate

[tough shuttle]

Yeah I dont have fuel in mail, got the 3k yesterday and that was gone in 10 stages

[sharp socket]

more comms

[tough shuttle]

comms?

[sharp socket]

also higher level oil producer

[tough shuttle]

And whats that

[sharp socket]

commissions

[bold cove]

A gold plane called HVAR

[tough shuttle]

Ah okay. Yeah I keep running them when I can. My oil and money facility are max I can do at lvl 45

[tough shuttle]

And why is it linked with 9th jan

[sharp socket]

yea it improves over time as you level more

[bold cove]

9th jan is Yorktown 2 rerun event

[sharp socket]

the event on 9th jan which is UR rerun for yorktown2 has a very desirable map drop for D3

[tropic tusk]

theres really all there is, all i can say is do ur commissions on time

[bold cove]

Does Halford Pr7 is strong torp user?

[tropic tusk]

if ur like "oh my commission dosent have any oil" then go opsi and spam level 1 field they will have a chance to spawn commissions

[tough shuttle]

Ah okay. So I should save up my oil until then and dont progress?

[tough shuttle]

What is opsi

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren

[tough shuttle]

Ah lvl 60. Yeah. No

[tropic tusk]

then all u can do is wait

[tough shuttle]

Oof ok

[storm heron]

very unfortunate, I only 3/5 today

[narrow ridge]

How can I beat the fast ships easier? The ones that come at my back line

[icy cave]

Some weeks I have an surplus of oil, some weeks I'm dry

[frank pulsar]

use vanguard ships with better dps and/or angle or use a bb with a good secondary gun

[thin nova]

Z52 uses this right?

she's FP based DD it seems

[frank pulsar]

should be

[atomic abyss]

Yes

https://streamable.com/qsm3me

Oh yeah btw @plain saffron any idea if you can make your little tutorial into a gif

[sharp token]

unzen rerun will be next year?

[atomic abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

So it looks like this

[atomic abyss]

Most likely, yes

At earliest Nov 2025

[sharp token]

can't wait

[boreal wagon]

@atomic abyss

[atomic abyss]

[boreal wagon]

id host it somewhere tho the file is quite large
(that or throw it through a gif compressor)

[whole crypt]

just get a better phone

[atomic abyss]

No I'm just adding it to my favourites

[vale spindle]

post it in a discord channel thats inactive then save it problem solved

[boreal wagon]

itll still be fairly large but yeah

[wind hazel]

files deted

[narrow ridge]

Can I use Bismarck instead of hood I just don’t like her