consider using Owari, very good ship
#gameplay-help
wind hazel
and about time for you to replace Akagi. i know it's your waifu, but use good ships, like the Enterprise you neglected 😭
use Shinano too, mlb but lv77
rose pawn
hi lmao this is so stupid but i just started and does anyone know how i can level my ships up
my fleet 2 is so severely underlevelled im struggling to clear lol im so sorry its a dimb quetion
hollow gust
Dorm and lower stages
coarse heron
use them 
rose pawn
use them <:MurmWat:839635014256951296>
oops so not that much like the other gachas with exp books
spring bolt
also exp books for ships you need urgently
rose pawn
alr thanks im just gonna sortie over and over again
wind hazel
if you've just started, you don't need 2nd fleet
fast steppe
probably dumb question but what sort of dd is z52? gunboat? torp? or just some sort of buffer
rose pawn
if you've just started, you don't need 2nd fleet
oh alr thanks i'll try with just one
fast steppe
so yukikaze ig
hollow gust
Gold burn/oxy orp is solid on her
forest palm
Ying Swei, and Chao Ho are getting augments on Jan 2nd btw 
wind hazel
who
spring bolt
probably dumb question but what sort of dd is z52? gunboat? torp? or just some s...
z52 is tank, aa carry, barrage spammer, damage buffer, trash mob eraser, healer altho not much
her damage will be mainly FP based from her barrages
soft raft
probably dumb question but what sort of dd is z52? gunboat? torp? or just some s...
Gunboat, pretty high AA, and tanky
fast steppe
high enough aa to use sex bofors?
spring bolt
no her AAGM isn't that great as her skill is a big source of her AA damage
fast steppe
ah ic
spring bolt
combined she is like the gatekeeper for AA carry, anything with AA lower than her aren't qualified as AA carry
roughly around 65%-70% sandy's AA, for the fleet
fast steppe
in that case does she want a regular accelerator or something like the 134 high angle
soft raft
Accelerators (that aren't UR AA) on vanguard ships isn't really worth it 99% of the time
Out of the few who would benefit from them, it'd be STAAG/Haze for the HIT stat
sharp wave
Is gascogne good?
elfin hollow
someone here told me z52 wasnt an aa carry
soft raft
Is gascogne good?
Not terrible but easily replaceable
elfin hollow
fast steppe
oh wtf the meta's moved on a lot from where i left lol
didn't realise we're putting staags on everyone now
wait i read that wrong did i
soft raft
You did
spring bolt
just give her a roomba for AA content and 134 when AA isn't needed
sharp wave
Where’s a good place to farm equipment cause I don’t have a lot
soft raft
Where’s a good place to farm equipment cause I don’t have a lot
You don't farm campaign for gear
Tech boxes is where it's at
spring bolt
eh, you mean roomba? yeah you can usually give all vanguards roomba and backline bb/cvl using staag
sharp wave
Okay thanks
sharp wave
What ships should be top priority to research?
soft raft
What ships should be top priority to research?
FdG > All of PR4 except Marco > At least Plymouth and Brest from PR5 > Everyone else
sharp wave
Okay
soft raft
Maybe Cheshire too if you need more AA Carry material
spring bolt
how low would a ship's aa need to be to justify an accelerator
usually a bb using staag is enough for the accelerator role
if you want to min-max AA, accelerator always goes to the ship with worst overall AA capability in the fleet so it varies
opaque gate
do the ap rocket thingies hit their target always?
sweet delta
The most acceleratory accelerator I use is staag, stuff like blast shield are traps
opaque gate
i meant the fighters from pr4
sweet delta
They can miss moving bosses
opaque gate
if they dont always hit, doesnt it mean that converging torps are better even vs light? assuming every gorps hit
sweet delta
I mean, assuming every torp hits, every rocket would hit
Torps are far more likely to miss moving enemies than rockets are
opaque gate
ahh, so if the boss doesnt move, then they launch it dirsctly to the boss?
spring bolt
do the ap rocket thingies hit their target always?
no, hit rate drops if the target is moving
according to CN researches, it drops to around 60% when target speed is 30
opaque gate
how about if i use a stopper, will they always hit?
sweet delta
and conv torps are like 40% for 30 speed?
Rockets have 100% chance to hit nonmoving bosses with the typical hitbox size
spring bolt
how about if i use a stopper, will they always hit?
yes, they will always hit if target doesn't move
fast steppe
we have ships that can stop enemies moving completely now?
soft raft
we have ships that can stop enemies moving completely now?
We've had that for quite a while now
AvP came out like 3 years ago
sharp wave
What ur should I go for New Jersey or ulrich
soft raft
And Implacable was like last year
soft raft
What ur should I go for New Jersey or ulrich
Shinano > UvH == New Jersey > Shimakaze
sharp wave
Okay
fast steppe
never checked avp's skillset tbh lol haven't developed her yet
crystal dove
I need recommendation fleet
In this world with 2 triangle enemy cv have more than 60+ planes 💀
fast steppe
i'll move on to her once i'm done with fdg ig
soft raft
I need recommendation fleet
In this world with 2 triangle enemy cv have more th...
Post your dock in a thread
spring bolt
and conv torps are like 40% for 30 speed?
a little less than 60%, but for the default movement pattern, not 30 speed constantly moving target
sweet delta
so they are like converging torps, but directly onto the boss
Not directly onto the boss. They are like converging torps but travel faster and therefore hit before the enemy has had as much time to move
spring bolt
btw bombs are the least affected thing by enemy speed, but they don't have very high hit rate to begin with
eager mulch
opaque gate
thanks
lastly, why do people not like UvH? is she that weak compared to other URs? If i wanna one run helena met, will she be any good?
sweet delta
Bottom 4 rainbow BB, yes but depends on your scale, yes but not worth using UR bulins on
fast steppe
who else is in the bot 4 other than warkai
sweet delta
NJ fdg warspite uvh
fast steppe
balls
opaque gate
even weaker than warspite? or nah
sweet delta
What a coincidence they're the oldest 4
opaque gate
okay thanks
fast steppe
between vanguard and uvh who should get the rainbow table
spring bolt
ws is around above average gold bb level, all other rainbow bbs are better than best gold bb
sweet delta
UvH assuming equal investment on everything else
stark quiver
you could say that
sweet delta
She has Warspite-level damage but buffs your whole fleet damage by over 10%
stark quiver
vanny the new warspite 
spring bolt
i think vg's own damage is still a lot stronger than ws but you get the point
left cedar
idk about that, since my Thurin reachs near her in Heavy ...
and we are talking about Purple, old Dreadnought BB ...
slim dawn
Who's better Laffey II or Eldridge retro?
sonic canyon
Who's better Laffey II or Eldridge retro?
I think it's the latter
paper timber
Which ship could I put the new gear skin "Echo of the Eternal Stars" on? It keep saying not match skin
boreal wagon
you can use it on any ships auxiliary slot but the slot has to have an aux equip actually equipped (and it cannot be something like a depth charge etc)
fast steppe
is it safe to assume that any gold equips not listed on the picture guide are safe to scrap?
paper timber
you can use it on any ships auxiliary slot but the slot has to have an aux equip...
I see
sweet delta
Laffii does more damage and AA, while Eldridge does a lot more vanguard defense and slow for offense buff
stark quiver
laff also very tanky
sweet delta
is it safe to assume that any gold equips not listed on the picture guide are sa...
It is not at all safe to do so, because the guide may be outdated or gear may be one-time limited and useful in very niche situations
fast steppe
is an octuple pom pom safe to scrap
stark quiver
yes
sweet delta
Only if you have a lot of other gold AA guns
stark quiver
they have a lot of roombas and 3 90mms
sweet delta
And why not keep all gold gear on ships you don't use, maybe in 10 years you'd want to get on the fleet power leader board
left cedar
w8, octo pompom isnt much a thing cuz really low range ...
trim tapir
And why not keep all gold gear on ships you don't use, maybe in 10 years you'd w...
Do people actually care about that lol?
stark quiver
And why not keep all gold gear on ships you don't use, maybe in 10 years you'd w...
does gear at diff enhance levels also count for fleet pwr?
trim tapir
Really
stark quiver
does gear at diff enhance levels also count for fleet pwr?
so why do you have so many q152s at 0 enhance 
sweet delta
How do I play the game
trim tapir
I'm also new, don't mind the close beta thing next to my name
brave trail
fleet building help
trim tapir
@sweet delta you have a YouTube ?
jaunty vault
who doesn't
exotic flax
this is probably a bit of a deep cut or far reach, but in Girls Frontline, levelling characters gives no stats, and enhancing them adds stats.
does levelling give no stats here, or some stats.
I really haven't noticed
trim tapir
I don't
fast steppe
what aa does uni want to have
sweet delta
Staag
jaunty vault
levelling does give stats
fast steppe
does hit do anything for cvs or just as an accelerator
trim tapir
What's your YouTube ?
frank pulsar
his youtube is suchiguma iirc
jaunty vault
hit increases chances of hitting plane bombs and torps and stuff
boreal wagon
hit does something for every ship
sweet delta
Suchiguma without the iirc
jaunty vault
miss the days when it was zstigma and i was the only guy commenting
trim tapir
Suchiguma without the iirc
Nice
frank pulsar
does hit do anything for cvs or just as an accelerator
hit stat on a ship decreases the odds of your enemy evading an attack they recieve
sweet delta
Now I get weird comments
Does the collect all button just collect the one for eagle union?
First time I've seen that button 
jaunty vault
idk i maxed tech before the button existed
boreal wagon
ive never seen that button so idk
stark quiver
cooperskyler
sweet delta
It did, in fact, only give me the rewards for eagle union level 7
jaunty vault
yeah uhh
exotic wren
Whazzat
jaunty vault
that was the only collectible
sweet delta
I was just confused why there's a collect all button for a maximum of four things in fixed locations, it's not like dorm which is infinite and can be hidden behind furniture
stark quiver
cuz lazy ppl exist
jagged canyon
anyone know how to get to the D stages of the current event?
stark quiver
but in part 2
boreal wagon
click on any B stage then hard
jaunty vault
part2, select a stage and click hard
jagged canyon
but in part 2
ah thanks, is this a new event UI? it used to be different awhile ago
fast steppe
oh the priority is in the datamine doc
dreamy canopy
Is the new UR good? Should I invest in her?
sweet delta
The new URs are both good, but investment priority depends on your things
left cedar
i would say depend on wut u have ... Cuz Rumy is quite niched
if its about Z52, them probally gud thing to do, depending only if u lack MLB in Musa or other similar like Zwei
dreamy canopy
Ah right, there's 2 URs, I forgot. I mean the gacha one
eager mulch
left cedar
so its Rumy... she is niched, if u already got other URs that are more general ready, including Z52, its a thing invest on her
spring bolt
most universal UR CV in main story
left cedar
Rumy ? universal ?
spring bolt
yeah, she can clear trash mobs with that ghost CA gun, has top fighter AA, and fighter+anything slots are good enough for main story
spring bolt
isn't work time very good to discuss game stuffs?
left cedar
i would agree if i dont need to move 7.5km to reach there
PS: i go with Bike, so i cant type through there
dreamy canopy
Well, thanks for the help you guys! I'll see if I can put her on any fleet, if not then I have a new pretty secretary.
spring bolt
so nice, i had to drive 60 km to work
left cedar
Anyway, time to go
urban grail
Ur spearfish worth making?
soft raft
Ur spearfish worth making?
not really
It's good, but too expensive to be worth it
stark quiver
with the addition of the tenrai in gear lab soon, not rly
wait to see
urban grail
Sidegrade to tenrai?
worldly pewter
spring bolt
No, he meant tenrai has higher priority
soft raft
Tenrai and Spearfish arent even in the same plane category 💀
urban grail
Yeah sry had to check again
spring bolt
we don't know what will tenrai cost so better just wait and see
worldly pewter
what spearfish excels at ?
stark quiver
light armor
worldly pewter
bossing mostly ?
stark quiver
good at mobbing
wyvern without intercept
cobalt rapids
slightgrade(up or down depends on content) to wyvern as parallel
better than saiun against light ST at same enh lvl on non amagi comp
stark quiver
like its not bad, but the cost really isnt it
worldly pewter
soft dagger
light ST?
spring bolt
for now, the only place i know where spearfish being irreplaceable is opsi speed farming fleet, where it outright beat wyvern by 3-4 seconds, and you need 3 of them
in other contents, wyvern does the job fine
stark quiver
i shouldntve made the drake gun from ords
cobalt rapids
neither are worth it if u arent rich yes
stark quiver
i happpened to be broke
now im even more broke
sweet delta
we have LST, MST, HST, LMT, MMT, HMT, GMT
stark quiver
dont forget pst
sharp wave
Is august von parseval worth building
boreal wagon
lst = light single target
lmt = light multi target
you can figure the rest
cobalt rapids
greenwich mean time
exotic wren
A bit of brainpower was required, but what's GMT? and PST?
soft dagger
greenwich mean time
oh for fuck sake
sweet delta
General Multi Target
exotic wren
oh for fuck sake
You're reading minds now wait wrong reply
strange sphinx
and here I thought all of that are different time
exotic wren
timer wave?
stark quiver
pacific time
worldly pewter
and here I thought all of that are different time
btw are u done from w14 
strange sphinx
btw are u done from w14 <:EmileSip:495396687158968321>
did 14-3 3 star
boreal wagon
i just realized it typoed lmt as mst which probably didnt help
strange sphinx
Just farming some of my ships for now before going again
tough shuttle
Man, why are they gatekeeping my progress with comander levels 😦
I just reached 41 and next stage requires 50
cobalt rapids
farm event
hushed sorrel
I just reached 41 and next stage requires 50
you could buy a instant lv 75 bundle but i cannot recommend doing that xD
exotic wren
farm event
worldly pewter
i thought it was lvl 70
cobalt rapids
why not 
hushed sorrel
maybe i am wrong
tough shuttle
farm event
I do but B2+ too hard 😭
hushed sorrel
75 +-5 then and now its correct either way
worldly pewter
I do but B2+ too hard 😭
stop slaccing b3 should be doable
tough shuttle
They kill my Port in one mob fight on manual
hushed sorrel
many here can help you with all kinds of information
worldly pewter
They kill my Port in one mob fight on manual
show fleet
stark quiver
can vanguards shoot at targets behind them
cobalt rapids
depends but yes
stark quiver
thanks
worldly pewter
if they use penetrating bullets
cobalt rapids
depends on their wep angles
worldly pewter
cobalt rapids
like most dd guns have 360
lilac swift
I must be blind or something but I don't see any hard mode button to do C1-C3 and D1-D3 for the event so how do I unlock them ?
exotic wren
Brest has her butt gun
lilac swift
Tyvm
tough shuttle
show fleet
strange sphinx
worldly pewter
show the formation
tough shuttle
worldly pewter
k looks like ranger is on life support there
strange sphinx
Definitely
tough shuttle
k looks like ranger is on life support there
Say what
worldly pewter
but anyway
get the levels for port and uni
it should go well even with 2 backliners
little tree
~~ pull the plug let nature take its course ~~
rare wyvern
How many UR Vouchers per day from daily SP and Missions only ? Trying to buy just enough
worldly pewter
Say what
u are missing 1 level for port and 2 for uni
get them done and mlb them it should go well
tough shuttle
Such big diff in survivability?
worldly pewter
well level wise no but the increase in stats can be very helpful
and as for uni she will have more damage
worldly pewter
Well they literally deal 20-25% of her HP per fight
this is because of 2 major factors
the fight is taking long and low stats on the tank especially eva
hushed sorrel
How many UR Vouchers per day from daily SP and Missions only ? Trying to buy jus...
player can already have bought the first UR ship without exchange from event coins to UR vouchers. as said its pinned and a list is even ingame in the event tab
tough shuttle
this is because of 2 major factors
the fight is taking long and low stats on th...
Yeah okay but how is 1 lvl gonna solve that
worldly pewter
Yeah okay but how is 1 lvl gonna solve that
ships get their final limit break at lvl 70
worldly pewter
Yeah okay but how is 1 lvl gonna solve that
also if u are forced to manual u can do that for couple of times
since the game has a threat mechanic each time u clear the stage it becomes easier
u can auto it when the threat level is close to 0
tough shuttle
ships get their final limit break at lvl 70
Oh so for LB yeah true
tough shuttle
also if u are forced to manual u can do that for couple of times
since the game...
Oooooh okay I never read that anywhere, cool info!
earnest sundial
im returning to AL after a 6 month break, are these opsi fleets still solid? And where could I put morgador after I 125 her?
tough shuttle
Also do I have to kill the orange skull mobs on event zones?
exotic wren
First 3 is solid, idk what's the fourth one for except filler
worldly pewter
the BB fleet looks good but maybe if u have alsace put her instead of vanguard
cv fleet maybe remove helena for sirius
mob fleet 2 bb is kinda slow remove nj for indep i think
barren tapir
mob fleet i'd do musashi indep uni
worldly pewter
uvh is a lot faster imo but i didn't test it
barren tapir
i mean ideal would be alsace or a third cv with fast launch/preload like aquila, akagi muse, luna etc
also unzen good for mob iirc, torp preloads
worldly pewter
he has 125 mogador
earnest sundial
Yeah, but they’re still leveling
worldly pewter
what about alsus
earnest sundial
I got both
stark quiver
Yeah, but they’re still leveling
does your fleet 3 have any specific armor usage?
like anti light
i was thinking putting aurora there for fleet 3
earnest sundial
Wasn’t anti light kind of a meme? I was thinking just using hvar/skyraider on the cv comp
stark quiver
Wasn’t anti light kind of a meme? I was thinking just using hvar/skyraider on th...
if you have them then sure
worldly pewter
the only light for which i don't recommend using a cv comp for it is c6 medusa aka equilibrium
boreal wagon
why is that, the weakness?
bc weaknesses dont even work
worldly pewter
it has a strong aa both offense and defense
stark quiver
just do more damage
if you have the correct fleet it wont matter
boreal wagon
CVs probably still smash through her
worldly pewter
well i tried with avp it didn't work i did maybe 50% hp
also i don't have hvar but still so bad
boreal wagon
i mean obviously it depends on a lot of things 
earnest sundial
So both alsace/mogador go in BB fleet when they’re ready? Then hinden goes mob with unzen to replace kron/chang
stark quiver
anyways fleet 2 looks good as it is
fleet 3 can use
bis2,alsace,vanguard,plymouth,aurora/mogador,unzen
hinden in mob fleet
independance in mob replaces new jeresy
earnest crag
Does anyone know why buying oil cancel button is switched to the right instead of the left when you are in combat instead of when you buy it on the homepage, because I was confused why my gems were getting taken away when I presumably clicked cancel but really it was on the right all along.
stark quiver
devs just made it like that probably
boreal wagon
i dont think anyone will have a real answer to that one
sweet delta
to be safe, just don't tap the buttons
and think tap outside the box to close these kinds of windows
earnest crag
and ~~think~~ tap outside the box to close these kinds of windows
Yeah, I'II try to do that next time because I'm trying to save for a L2D skin which costs 1200 gems rn
cobalt rapids
if ure f2p and playing for the long game you should follow the recc from /gems, the QoLs will go a long way
stark quiver
do you guys use houshou in youre fleets to level ships faster
cobalt rapids
no
stark quiver
i was thinking abt using her to level nakh faster
spring bolt
Only when I am grinding ijn backline exp for pr ships
stark quiver
idk if its a good idea cuz i stil need to get other tech up
cobalt rapids
just use the slot for another ship that needs xp
ull get more xp longterm that way anyway
unless houshou herself needs the xp she eats more exp than she provides
spring bolt
You have your answer already, tech is more important
And I only do that cuz I don't have backlines that need exp
tough shuttle
Ayyyy B3 clear. Why is the next chapter in event locked tho?
cobalt rapids
wdym
eager mulch
have to clear D3
cobalt rapids
oh
tough shuttle
Wdym D3
eager mulch
smh renhex
spring bolt
b3 literally doesn't unlock anything
wait, it probably unlocks something in story mode
cobalt rapids
hard mode of B3 is D3
and u need to clear D3 to unlock SP
undone plover
stay and farm b3 for a bit
if u just cleared it chances are u cant clear C1 yet
tough shuttle
Tap on B3, bottom left, toggle to hard
OH NOOOO
spring bolt
you can finish story mode and get 5 free cubes
tough shuttle
Yeah but it takes ages to read
stark quiver
just a few minutes of clicking
tough shuttle
I wanna read it tho, its mildly cool
sweet delta
you can skip it now and read it any time later
sharp wave
Is fdg,unicorn and shinano good for main fleet?
viscid swift
for what content
sharp wave
Story mode
viscid swift
which main campaign chapters exactly
noble fjord
i just downloaded this game and i have no idea what server to choose
viscid swift
Lexington has the best medal shop this month but this month is soon over so you won't be able to take advantage of that
noble fjord
what are guilds? whats the na server?
sharp wave
I’m stuck on 10 so I’m trying to get together the best fleet for it
upbeat wagon
I ran out of oil at 29k event currency, not much can be done aside from waiting for oil right?
cobalt rapids
that is overkill for chapter 10 if they are mlb with decent lvls and good poverty gear
viscid swift
what are guilds? whats the na server?
all the servers are for global i.e. anywhere thats not China, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan
as for guilds uh don't worry too much about that for now
sweet delta
if you pick the right server, you can join my guild
noble fjord
all the servers are for global i.e. anywhere thats not China, Japan, Korea, and ...
ohhh ok
stark quiver
sushi gm?
noble fjord
whats like- america server?
noble fjord
so like north america?
stark quiver
so like north america?
world wide
eager mulch
theyre all the same
elfin hollow
yea global servers
eager mulch
there’s global, JP, CN, and TW servers
boreal wagon
flavor
viscid swift
just different names for different servers
elfin hollow
just for aesthetics
viscid swift
not much more to it than that
stark quiver
amagi best
sweet delta
it's just servers 1 through 6
cobalt rapids
global client shows only global servers
JP, KR, CN are locked behind their own clients
noble fjord
what should i join
noble fjord
why are there so many assets-
eager mulch
700+ ships
cobalt rapids
because CV hulls and BB hulls are the best hull rotation in medal shops when starting out
noble fjord
my brother knows everything about ships- so he told me to play this lolll surprised titanic and other stuff isnt on here
stark quiver
just go whichever has the best medal shop next month, unless we dont know
cobalt rapids
and these rotate monthly
sweet delta
just go whichever has the best medal shop *next* month, unless we dont know
what are the medal shops for next month?
elfin hollow
if u grind enough u could prolly pick up some decent ships in shop
noble fjord
idk what that is
stark quiver
what are the medal shops for next month?
thats what id have to ask you
sweet delta
idk what that is
pick the same server as your friends, if you have none playing then pick any server
cobalt rapids
just pick any server
noble fjord
pick the same server as your friends, if you have none playing then pick any ser...
oh ok
clever lance
Where do I go to see these points I’ve accumulated to exchange for frames?
viscid swift
my brother knows *everything* about ships- so he told me to play this lolll surp...
This game is mainly about warships, you aren't gonna see civilian vessels and such in here for the most part.
cobalt rapids
in event tab
sweet delta
Call to Arms: ???
noble fjord
This game is mainly about warships, you aren't gonna see civilian vessels and su...
ohhh alr, so like the ships in the top gun movies??
sweet delta
yeah, my personal yacht isn't in this game
noble fjord
i mean the andrea doria is in the game-
viscid swift
i mean the andrea doria is in the game-
not the liner Andrea Doria, the battleship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Andrea_Doria
and no, the ships in the game are mainly from the period of the First World War to the end of the 2nd World War
boreal wagon
or from paper
viscid swift
we have a few ships from before that period but nothing laid down beyond the early 1950s is in the game
eager mulch
noble fjord
ok why has al been downloading resources for 2 hours now
noble fjord
and no, the ships in the game are mainly from the period of the First World War ...
ohhh
exotic wren
Could be slow internet
rare wyvern
Tech question because I struggle to understand. I am close to get the CV Hit tech from Ryuuhou and Hiryuu, will I get the stats since I have Sakura faction at level 9 ? Each tech is tied to its faction or distributed on any four "Faction tech" ?
sweet delta
Level 120 tech and faction tech are independent of each other
cobalt rapids
obtain and 120 tech is distributed to each respective hull
bonuses from faction teching leveling are also distributed to each respective hull they just need faction points to lvl up
sweet delta
And all tech stats apply to all MLB ships
rare wyvern
Okay, I get it now, thank
noble fjord
what
viscid swift
you're still in the tutorial
scenic mesa
Which one should I choose?
viscid swift
check the pins
viscid swift
why would you use your actual name....
cobalt rapids
its ur commander name that will show up on leaderboards/guilds and such other public places
white agate
use the name you want and add random numbers
noble fjord
hmmm this doesn’t look that complicated
sweet delta
Blogging goes to #al-general , this channel is for help
noble fjord
is this the gacha?
noble fjord
Blogging goes to <#528197562998718474> , this channel is for help
oh so do i not talk here-?
cobalt rapids
yes
only pull on event banner
and outside event banners only 1 light pull/day
viscid swift
you might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
cobalt rapids
but this event banner is rly good so spend all ur cubes there till u get fritz
but try to save some coin so u can progress aswell
viscid swift
oh so do i not talk here-?
unless you're explicitly asking for help or advice, yes
stark quiver
oh so do i not talk here-?
Ask game questions here
noble fjord
yeah i don’t get it-
viscid swift
what
stark quiver
the gacha lol
Same as any other gacha game gacha
tough shuttle
Do I need to have these ships in my main fleer which kills the boss?
cobalt rapids
yes they can also die tho
tough shuttle
Huh. It says they cannot
cobalt rapids
yea..
tough shuttle
???
cobalt rapids
the description is wrong
tough shuttle
Ok so I swap then in for my weakest ship one by one and run the stage
stark quiver
I put all of them in one fleet, bc crossfleet can kill the boss
And some carries within the fleet
noble fjord
okay so what do i do gameplay wise now?
• what do i gacha for?
• what is the main story chapter?
• what are good starter ships?
viscid swift
you might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
have you given that a read
noble fjord
i skimmed
stark quiver
fully read it, it should tell you most of what you need to know
read at w/e pace you like, no need to rush it
noble fjord
yeah i don’t veg it
hushed delta
I have 2 (two) rings, should they go to z52 + nhakimov or z52 + rumey?
forest palm
if you're just doing it for the stats main fleet > vanguard
cobalt rapids
and if u want the meta but not enough for all 3 answer then the backlines
hushed delta
but z52 is like buzzing
forest palm
the stat boost from oathing isn't as meaningful on vanguards as it is main fleet ships, also it can create conflicting issues with other main fleet ships leading to needing to rework how you build ships, on top of that you won't be able to easily copy past builds due to odd oathing
eager mulch
forest palm
storm heron
hushed delta
okk, I think I'm going with z52 and Rumey regardless, thx
forest palm
stark quiver
any fleet that needs a slow
could use soyuz with her
hushed delta
Soyuz, Nya, Rumey, and what vanguard?
sweet delta
depends on the enemy
hushed delta
maybe Soyuz, Nya and Zwei?
hollow gust
What can Zwei do
sweet delta
an example for next month's challenge mode
hushed delta
helena awk
hollow gust
What’s next months gimmick?
forest palm
not like they'll be able to copy that
stark quiver
What’s next months gimmick?
bullet sponge shield
hollow gust
Cool
hushed delta
not like they'll be able to copy that <:ShiWoke:1023947351414558750>
aside from 1 La, I can copy that
forest palm
not if you have only Fritz oath'd
hollow gust
Z52 instead of Scylla ? :]
stark quiver
aside from 1 La, I can copy that
just go on calc and make w/e cv ur using match that time
sweet delta
stark quiver
any scylla replacements?
hushed delta
hell will freeze before I resort to using Helena
forest palm
cool no one asked 
last zenith
Very Impressive
hushed delta
:JustKiddingIllustriousEmote:
hollow gust
Newbies don’t get to pick and choose
placid egret
Question: is Amagi (CV) a more boss-focused or mob-focused CV? Also, what kind of builds should I go with her?
forest palm
both, and depends on who you're using and what you're fighting
placid egret
For a more mob-focused fleet, then
My current mob fleet is Perseus, Unicorn-Retro, Yat Sen, An Shan and Chang Chun
Indomitable is my flagship, but I know she's more boss-focused, so I wanna replace her
viscid swift
for what content exactly
placid egret
SirenOps
tough shuttle
Guys do I take this research? It costs basically all my gold, but I just did all my MLB for carry fleet
viscid swift
well if you don't need to improve your boss fleets more Amagi will do fine, replace Perseus too while your at it, Akagi Muse would be a good choice
placid egret
I can post pics of all my fleets, if you want to have a look at them
hollow gust
If you are doing pr5 then stick with it, take one of the grants or a rigging
viscid swift
Guys do I take this research? It costs basically all my gold, but I just did all...
I wouldn't you have better things to spend gold on than research at the moment probably
tough shuttle
I wouldn't you have better things to spend gold on than research at the moment p...
Yeah... So skip research alltogether?
viscid swift
not exactly, just don't commit any resources to it that you can't afford to spare
placid egret
hollow gust
Yeah... So skip research alltogether?
Take a grant donation or rigging, grind more coins
hollow gust
None of them are that good either
viscid swift
second, that's Implacable in the mob fleet not Indomitable
placid egret
Yeah sorry, mixed up the names
viscid swift
start a thread and post your dock at this point
placid egret
I almost called Perseus "Hermes"
turbid dawn
What would be the best 3rd backline instead of Alsace for TaihouM? I've tried both her+Sushi but both are around about this low dmg compared to the 2?
stark quiver
bis2 alsace sushi
placid egret
start a thread and post your dock at this point
All ships, or just SSR above?
viscid swift
All ships, or just SSR above?
just SRs and URs
hollow gust
What would be the best 3rd backline instead of Alsace for TaihouM? I've tried bo...
Drop that Guam, run a Helena
undone plover
also isnt guam pretty overkill?
the fight doesnt seem to have a lot vanguard pressure 
stark quiver
What would be the best 3rd backline instead of Alsace for TaihouM? I've tried bo...
why use guam
just run helena or mog
turbid dawn
bis2 alsace sushi
Alsace and Sushi never get above 300k for me
viscid swift
What would be the best 3rd backline instead of Alsace for TaihouM? I've tried bo...
are you forcing battleships or something
turbid dawn
Also Guam is there for consistent AB
sweet delta
Unzen with 0 surival aux can main tank without bigger problems
considering that the boss is heavy armor and your BBs should be doing AB for themselves already...
hollow gust
Also Guam is there for consistent AB
Helena > AB
turbid dawn
Plus 160k dmg, she ain't lacking in that department either
stark quiver
and helana could help more
viscid swift
her numbers are being inflated by AA damage among other things
hollow gust
Also that Plymouth damage is depressing
placid egret
just SRs and URs
METAs too?
viscid swift
no
turbid dawn
Also that Plymouth damage is depressing
Idk, this is the loadout im running for her, can't see her getting much more dmg
tough shuttle
Take a grant donation or rigging, grind more coins <:ShiSleep:771507346069389313...
They cost bunch of the plates, that fine?
sweet delta
130k is normal for ply
viscid swift
They cost bunch of the plates, that fine?
at your stage of the game no, don't take them
those plates are far more valuable for upgrading gear
tough shuttle
Also I got a ticket for selection ship, which would be best boost?
viscid swift
check the pins
sweet delta
just farm more, those researches are very worthwhile
viscid swift
have you seen his plate numbers...
sweet delta
yes
hollow gust
Theres a grant, just take it 
sweet delta
AA guns cost like *15 gray plates each, 80 plates is far more than needed
tough shuttle
check the pins
So since I have Graf I take Richeliu as they are both not from permanent sources?
viscid swift
well I don't know what you're working with exactly
tough shuttle
Or Formidble that one also doesnt have star
viscid swift
if you can't decide best thing is just to hold onto it
placid egret
TheLandMaster45 - Fleet Building
viscid swift
none of them are that good though
Richi is you're still early game and lacking good BBs I guess but the rest are mainly just tech
tough shuttle
I have the basic setup with "free" ships
placid egret
There, thread made
tough shuttle
turbid dawn
Well I decided to try Helena+Kear, Kear did real bad even with an LA9, and Helena only got her 1 guaranteed proc (I also forgot to put guns on her)
placid egret
start a thread and post your dock at this point
Did the thing
stark quiver
why kear
turbid dawn
why kear <:MurmWat:839635014256951296>
Buff the other 2, Alsace+Sushi didnt buff and were always underpfermoing so wanted to try her
split root
For the new IB carrier what's best loadout?
quartz jungle
Buff the other 2, Alsace+Sushi didnt buff and were always underpfermoing so want...
Alsace should buff though? Just use Flandre gun
split root
Two fighter bombers then like a multirole gun?
scenic mesa
When are the SP and EX maps releasing?
split root
Ok, you think equiping the VH armor on her is worth?
viscid swift
absolutely not
viscid swift
When are the SP and EX maps releasing?
they've been unlocked since the event started
split root
Aight so catapult and like, beacon maybe?
viscid swift
yes, 2 catapults unless you're doing timing stuff
scenic mesa
Why are they locked on my end?
split root
Coo
viscid swift
Why are they locked on my end?
have you cleared D3
scenic mesa
Yes
viscid swift
well if you don't have access to SP and EX you haven't
sweet delta
B3 is not D3
scenic mesa
Sorry it was b3
stark quiver
does helena have better AA than ply
viscid swift
scenic mesa
turbid dawn
So this time I got 2 procs, and it's the same dmg as having Guam, would it be better to stick with Guam for the consistent 1300k or try and highroll for 3+ scans on Helena?
viscid swift
why not use CVs
vivid sonnet
is the Twin 100mm Type 98 AA Gun Mount good?
turbid dawn
why not use CVs
I cba to change gear all the time from different CVs, then also for PvP too
sweet delta
did you forget to gear the helena
viscid swift
just use the battleships for PvP and CVs for Taiho but anyway
scenic mesa
Why can't I go past b3?
turbid dawn
did you forget to gear the helena
Yes, I forgot the guns, but shes not gonna do 20% to the boss
viscid swift
Why can't I go past b3?
hard mode maps are now just a toggle from their easy mode counterparts
scenic mesa
Oh sorry, just returned from AL
turbid dawn
just use the battleships for PvP and CVs for Taiho but anyway
But defense fleet is CVs, and knowing me Ill forget to re-equip
scenic mesa
Thanks
forest palm
Oh sorry, just returned from AL
it's a relatively new feature, so it's fine
viscid swift
trust me when I say your defense fleet does not matter
forest palm
you really don't need to try in PvP unless you care about rank, and rank itself is more of a flex just like defense fleets
turbid dawn
Well that's kinda what I'm trying, to see how far I can get for EoS
viscid swift
well a good defense fleet won't even help you until the end of the season
vivid sonnet
is the Twin 100mm Type 98 AA Gun Mount good?
.
viscid swift
and it's easy to counter the stall fleet you have anyway
just drop Alsace for Aquila and it folds pretty easily
brisk dragon
what do i need to open SP?
viscid swift
is the Twin 100mm Type 98 AA Gun Mount good?
transitional AA gun
viscid swift
what do i need to open SP?
clear D3
sweet delta
transitional PR1 only 
viscid swift
toggle the switch on B3 to get to it
forest palm
what do i need to open SP?
100% D3
soft dagger
it's ok, but why do you have it?
sushi aqua is a solo or does she have a proper fleet?
stark quiver
viscid swift
3, 2, 1...
sweet delta
solo, flag, very short battle only
brisk dragon
oh? like in normal story? since when it's like this and not one big tab on bottom left/right?
sweet delta
and iirc there's no aux that turns a ship into hololive faction
viscid swift
oh? like in normal story? since when it's like this and not one big tab on botto...
yes, this is the new format for event maps
stark quiver
oh? like in normal story? since when it's like this and not one big tab on botto...
new map feature
brisk dragon
i see
soft dagger
and iirc there's no aux that turns a ship into hololive faction
you sure? that gamers mark something?
turbid dawn
Stupid question while I'm here btw, are the TaihouM spawns Med or heavy armour?
sweet delta
oh it does work, but Aqua requires three hololive in total. So a surface ship is still needed
soft dagger
thanks
stark quiver
@soft dagger what gear did you run on your 3bb clear for taihom
soft dagger
Izumo champy champy
fringe walrus
How many zones in total in op siren
stark quiver
should be 72
viscid swift
72
hollow gust
Btw for Fritz in single target is the staag hit more worth over the CL guns?
viscid swift
yes
turbid dawn
Doesn't that just make her a CVL at that point pretending to be a CV?
viscid swift
well I don't see what difference it makes
undone plover
Is it gonna refresh every month
it will if u cleared OpSi chapter 4 and have reset unlocked
otherwise it wont
it should show a timer on the left side of the opsi main screen
turbid dawn
well I don't see what difference it makes
More planes+different choices for loadout?
viscid swift
not really
turbid dawn
Kinda ruins her 'gimmick' ig
viscid swift
her being classified as a CV or a CVL makes no difference to her performance
undone plover
Also what are these yellow chests indicate
hidden (obscured) zones
they give rewards but u cant exit them to heal
they are not super difficult tho as long as your adaptive tuning is okay
hollow gust
Also what CVL has 8 planes
undone plover
indep moment
turbid dawn
Yeah I was gonna sya quite a few, I thought part of the reason for UR cv was 9 planes instead of 8 (apart from amagi)
viscid swift
More important then the free damage and damage amp from CA gun?
from what I've scene and read so far yes
low juniper
Are there no Samvaluations for the new ships?
boreal wagon
sam is busy remaking his site
viscid swift
UR doesn't really imply anything other than maybe an above average level of performance compared to SRs
undone plover
Yeah I was gonna sya quite a few, I thought part of the reason for UR cv was 9 p...
CVL have higher base RLD than CV and lower AVI (mostly)
and also hulls dont rly matter tbh
cobalt rapids
cvl have also higher tech
viscid swift
better to not dwell on what a ship could have or should have been and focus on their actual performance in game
hollow gust
Also if anything Amagi showed you shouldn't just look at plane count
viscid swift
that as well
elfin hollow
sometimes its just quality or quantity
turbid dawn
Also if anything Amagi showed you shouldn't just look at plane count
True, it seems loadout is biggest decider imho
sweet delta
Hwah Jah already showed me that
hollow gust
Wonder how well Haku's 9 planes are doing
undone plover
plane slot count does matter tbh cause it means less flexibility in loadouts
but that doesnt mean fritz is a bad CV
elfin hollow
i dont think anyone has said she was bad
soft dagger
plane slot count does matter tbh cause it means less flexibility in loadouts
but...
that omni fleet idea of yours is more tempting now with z52
viscid swift
according to Quyet yet again, she is
elfin hollow
who
hollow gust
Fritz has a universal 2nd slot, shes more then flexible enough
stark quiver
how good is kirov M in taohou meta fight
turbid dawn
i dont think anyone has said she was bad
Yeah more it just feels bad that she has gimmick and skills you don't really fully utilise because they were implemented badly, kinda reminds me of release Mog (but nowehre near as bad)
sweet delta
the youtuber who said Bristol > Ply
stark quiver
this guy
viscid swift
he's also now saying Fritz's damage is shit because shockingly her damage against heavy armor is nothing to write home about
elfin hollow
never heard about him
sweet delta
good
hollow gust
I respect that 
, I want 4 ply guns
elfin hollow
💀 only kimo pops up in my reccs
forest palm
now you know to actively avoid said individual
stark quiver
truly an interesting fellow
undone plover
he's also now saying Fritz's damage is shit because shockingly her damage agains...
did he say she is bad cuz bad vs heavy
or just that she is bad vs heavy?
viscid swift
did he say she is bad cuz bad vs heavy
or just that she is bad vs heavy? <:NagaT...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTQvhnS-m7Y&t=2s
just watch what he says and read his responses in the comments
turbid dawn
Idk I see ALM alot, and recently and he said that Stehpen Potter is the same as Kazagumo, on the same power level and he uses her a lot over Kaza which just doesn't seem correct to me
elfin hollow
i dont feel like giving him viewership tbh
undone plover
her skills arent even maxed 
elfin hollow
viscid swift
yeah, there's a reason why we don't reccomend anyone watch AL youtube guides/reviews for learning/information
crisp raven
whats the tldr? i dont want to burn my last brain cell watching his 2 min video
stark quiver
i js dont watch al youtubers 
storm heron
stark quiver
dont worry sushi
viscid swift
whats the tldr? i dont want to burn my last brain cell watching his 2 min video
said her damage is bugged because she did shit on heavy armor compared to Alsace and Bismarck Zwei and said the devs needed to fix her damage output and when people pointed out her strength is not heavy armor well this was his response was "That’s beside the point. The point is to play-test her. Every bosses at the moment are heavy armor, be it challenge mode, Arbiter or meta"
storm heron
"The point is to play-test her"
viscid swift
which is just, astonishing
storm heron
oh wait u said that in ur paragraph
soft dagger
well according to the thumbnail something is not right. apparently his head
elfin hollow
im still confused about this part, if u have her on a cl main gun does she still gain the special ca main gun or it doesnt matter if u have an aa gun or cl main gun
crisp raven
ty, and lol. so a survey with 1 response is also usable knowledge. good to know /s
stark quiver
the bg music at least is cool
storm heron
im still confused about this part, if u have her on a cl main gun does she still...
you still gain a ca gun regardless of cl gun there or aa gun there
elfin hollow
ok
stark quiver
are quyets guides reliable at all
sweet delta
the CL and CA guns are completely independent of each other except that they use the same weapon queue and the CL gun provides FP stat
vivid sonnet
transitional AA gun
should i use it?
viscid swift
if you have no better AA guns sure
elfin hollow
yea ok so wouldnt u still wanna use a cl main gun for her skill to proc?
sweet delta
what skill
elfin hollow
sweet delta
the only relevant skill increases the CL gun's range
if you don't use a CL gun, then there's no range to increase 
vivid sonnet
hows the Twin 381mm Advanced Main Gun Mount?
storm heron
that's like a skill that's only useful when you have CL gun
elfin hollow
thats why
sweet delta
hows the Twin 381mm Advanced Main Gun Mount?
Please, if you're doing PR1 focus research, do not do that. If you're a super old player, then those PR1 gears are mostly not useful at all
vivid sonnet
i have spares not upgraded yet just wondering
elfin hollow
does anyone have a medium armor break oriented boss fleet
storm heron
medium armor break?
elfin hollow
against medium armor bosses
soft raft
Literally just use like Agir or Guam depending on if it's BB or CV
elfin hollow
oh does it matter if they're bb or cv?
soft raft
Guam helps maintain CV concealment
elfin hollow
what's the diff between a cv and bb boss
sweet delta
for next month's CM
stiff oracle
Will current event still be available after today new update?
viscid swift
yes
forest palm
the upcoming update is just part 2 of the outfits, and so on
otherwise you have till Jan 1st
stiff oracle
I see. Means still have time. Haha.. thanks!
soft raft
Only reruns last a week
stark quiver
for next month's CM
Is sandy a good replacement for scylla
sweet delta
https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/january/ sandy is ok but then you may want to remove helena or ply for harbin
white agate
does someone know what is the c3 zone with more area?
rare wyvern
for next month's CM
Is the double torp for Scylla supposed to be situational ?
atomic abyss
It doesn't deal any real damage
It's for timing
rare wyvern
To trigger more barrages
atomic abyss
Not like her actual torps deal any real damage anyways...
rare wyvern
Maybe since CM is way longer it's better, but last time I was told to just put quad mag on her in my w15 comp
woeful moon
What’s the stage for xp farming?
rare wyvern
Me no understand
atomic abyss
What’s the stage for xp farming?
12-1/4 outside event
Within event, D3
woeful moon
Thank you
sharp wave
How high does the pr vouchers go that you can buy?
viscid swift
4 and only for the PRs
sharp wave
Damn
stark quiver
in a long fight like cm
on average would helena's scans get my fleet more dmg compared to using ply for dmg and buff
storm heron
for next month's CM
what the autoloader
little tree
Autoloaders no longer a meme
barren tapir
i mean they never were, they always had a niche for timing 
storm heron
was autoloader relevant pre-cov?
worldly pewter
i m pretty sure that i had to use an autoloader for a certain meta showdown
barren tapir
stark quiver
i use double autoloader uvh
sharp socket
i use autoloader for vanny when doing my 457 comp
storm heron
i m pretty sure that i had to use an autoloader for a certain meta showdown <:Mu...
me getting soyuz to fire 4 instead of 3
hollow gust
Musashi uses a lot of autoloader
storm heron
also should I level CA rld tech?
viscid swift
eventually yes
storm heron
how important is it in relative to other tech? after eva, hit, and fp?
cause I wanted to sync my agir but I couldn't
hollow gust
Defensive tech isn't thaaat important
storm heron
but they say ca/cl eva >
stark quiver
whys everyone tryna get syncs with agir these days
atomic abyss
There is literally only 4 or 5 CA/CB eva
It isn't hard to max that
stark quiver
i cant tell if theres a different meaning to this
hollow gust
whys everyone tryna get syncs with agir these days
Newbies 
storm heron
"synced" is "oath" pretty sure
slow fox
eventually yes
I wanted to let you know that, thanks to dfg, I've been able to get a hold of CN eHP. I've translated it.
1: Their process is similar to eHP2. (taking arithmetic average of uptime)
2: They put hitshields at ~10 to ~20% DmgRed (their calculation doesn't include average damage of enemy bullets, I think)
3: They account for slashes (not sure how they do it yet)
4: Their considerations are for max tech
stark quiver
cucked blocked by paywall
slow fox
~~cucked~~ blocked by paywall
wat
stark quiver
my words exactly
sharp socket
mebot is ehp only a little bit higher for a ship with max tech vs no tech
atomic abyss
...do I really need to tell regulars that that sorta innuendo isn't allowed.
brazen pivot
Which SR pr7 ship has highest print priority?
slow fox
my words exactly
atomic abyss
Bayard
stark quiver
nice thanks
sharp socket
how many portlands is max tech portland vs no tech portland is probably what im interested in more
slow fox
how many portlands is max tech portland vs no tech portland is probably what im ...
OH SHIT I NEED TO NORMALIZE THIS
sharp socket
viscid swift
how many portlands is max tech portland vs no tech portland is probably what im ...
realistically not a lot
like for reference for CAs the difference is 4 EVA and 128 HP
slow fox
Oh thankfully that's not a lot.
atomic abyss
That 4 Eva probably makes more difference than anything else
slow fox
I'll do that right now actually, because it's in my best interest.
storm heron
for BC it's 18 EVA nvm it's just vanguards
stark quiver
is high tech kinda required to one shot this meta
storm heron
the high-end cv example have soy at 17 BB RLD
viscid swift
well even the best comps don't have much in damage leeway for this one
but the issue is more down to keeping concealment
stark quiver
even when i keep conceal down, i cant seem to get enough dmaage
atomic abyss
You also need high AA
storm heron
if using CV yes
atomic abyss
It seems nothing short of 3x 57 is enough to keep the CVs concealed with the typical frontline
viscid swift
not even a typical frontline
storm heron
even when i keep conceal down, i cant seem to get enough dmaage
is the CM unlocked already or smth?
slow fox
like for reference for CAs the difference is 4 EVA and 128 HP
Is this 100% true facts?
atomic abyss
Eva is correct
viscid swift
you pretty much have to have an AA Carry in the vanguard to maintain conceal consistently if you don't have any intercepting aircraft
atomic abyss
HP idk cos lol
viscid swift
I pulled it from Lars' tech calc
stark quiver
you pretty much have to have an AA Carry in the vanguard to maintain conceal con...
what are some options
viscid swift
if anything is wrong blame him
viscid swift
what are some options
Z52 would pretty much be the best choice
boreal wagon
storm heron
apparently like this is enough
atomic abyss
Up till z52 came out
We were floating the idea of Shimanto lel
atomic abyss
Dafaq
soft raft
Damn
stark quiver
Z52 would pretty much be the best choice
2lb z52
storm heron
what? mog 2 +13 HPAAR?
viscid swift
behold
stark quiver
that looks cursed
whole crypt
+10 is enough but I'm using 1 radar + fargo drone now
sharp socket
i don't think even cheeky would +13 air radar
atomic abyss
French Z52
storm heron
i don't think even cheeky would +13 air radar
who knows
stark quiver
anyways i forgot to cancel the run so testing tmo
viscid swift
I still have it set to a slow comp pretty much though
fast comps I just find don't work that well unless you're going for 4 strikes
stark quiver
I still have it set to a slow comp pretty much though
just asking did you barely one shot it
viscid swift
does mean though Mogador dying can cost you a one shot
storm heron
viscid swift
I've one shot like maybe 3/4 times out of 18 or something so far
viscid swift
the comp can do it, just not consistently
stark quiver
I've one shot like maybe 3/4 times out of 18 or something so far
so what im hearing is to just go for 2 shot
viscid swift
Is it possible to somewhat sync Mogador's stab with her torpedo launch?
you could but Unzen is the better recipient of that
viscid swift
so what im hearing is to just go for 2 shot
that or Helena
storm heron
to hide girls from maihou
quartz jungle
you could but Unzen is the better recipient of that
Yeah I meant just change Mogador's torpedo that's all
viscid swift
Tf u guys need so many AA for
repair ships
stark quiver
i only one shot with 3 proc helena
stark quiver
repair ships
now you just gave me a good idea
viscid swift
Yeah I meant just change Mogador's torpedo that's all
well trying to sync Mogador as well could cost Unzen her own torp damage which is not preferable is what I'm saying
I can tell this is gonna end well.....
hollow gust
Just use a normal figther on implacable
viscid swift
I tried that, not quite enough damage to one shot with a Flapjack
storm heron
pretty sure that's what Jimmy used
hollow gust
Still haven't gotten revealed
viscid swift
once again, I am too poor to go for 4 airstrikes
hollow gust
a normal fighter with a rainbow aa on moggy and kazegumo should be fine
viscid swift
I'm not saying it isn't enough to keep conceal, it is
slow fox
Portland EVATech: 101.59
Portland HPTech: 102.12
Portland MaxTech: 103.75
viscid swift
I'm saying that the loss in damage from going from La-9 to Flapjack is costing me too much damage to one shot
hollow gust
, truly a non oath problem
atomic abyss
And people say this game is f2p
hollow gust
I was oneshotting decently consistently with Jimmy
storm heron
Still haven't gotten revealed <:ShiSleep:771507346069389313>
what is that purple plane?
atomic abyss
Fulmar
viscid swift
like, I could believe it was I was only about 5 bars off from my runs using his set ups
storm heron
fulmar tech ok ok
hollow gust
Most consistent is Helena then
atomic abyss
How ironic lol
storm heron
and what was the fighter on implac again?
hollow gust
You can get at least a 60-70%
viscid swift
I'm gonna wait to see how Z-52 goes before throwing in the towel
slow fox
Portland EVATech: 101.59
Portland HPTech: 102.12
Portland MaxTech: 103.75
They also use Eugen as 100.14%
atomic abyss
Well it's still better than RodM I assume
That one was basically impossible to 1 shot without Unzen no?
hollow gust
Moggy and z52 aren't that much off , at least when they tested it
storm heron
storm heron
interesting use case of bearcat
boreal wagon
i too love point reacting myself
and then removing it to pretend like it never happened
boreal wagon
They also use Eugen as 100.14%
the .14 deeply upsets my brain
storm heron
slow fox
I have no idea why it's that way.
boreal wagon
is it maybe bc non tech is 100% idk how these things work
whole crypt
Still haven't gotten revealed <:ShiSleep:771507346069389313>
how's this working out for you
hollow gust
80% give or take
whole crypt
slow fox
is it maybe bc non tech is 100% idk how these things work
CA tech ~2%, so not 0.14% :mutsuki:
hollow gust
The hard part is syncing unzen torp with mogador
whole crypt
that's not really an issue with quints I think but 80% isn't really better than 3 strike
slow fox
IT ENDS AT CA TECH
sweet delta
So what happened to 95% win rate
slow fox
suchispotted
hollow gust
So what happened to 95% win rate
It dropped as I did more runs
eager mulch
forest palm
worn quest
what else should i be buying from the event shop?
atomic abyss
Check the pins
signal fog
are there any Maintenance later ?
undone plover
8h maintenance starts in 5 hours
stark quiver
8h?
remote quarry
8 hours, yes
stark quiver
8h for new skins is crazy
undone plover
that is what the announcement says in #game-news
remote quarry
8h for new skins is crazy
plus 3d noshiro
novel solstice
It is possible (or even likely) that they're doing other things during the 8-hour downtime. Database backups, for example, might be easier if done when you know nobody is logged in, so you do them when you're taking the servers down for an update anyway.
viscid swift
well according to the JP patch notes they're probably adding some stuff for the next patch this patch because of the new year
like the augments for Ying Zwei and Chao Ho as well the Commission event
tepid frigate
How do i get more gem commissions?
stark quiver
farm 2-1/c1 opsi
atomic abyss
There's no way to guarantee more
forest palm
luck
atomic abyss
You want more gems, you push campaign
stark quiver
is that not the way anymore
novel solstice
Gem commissions are a random thing that has a very small appearance anytime you run a map. We have no information on drop rates, so no way of knowing whether there are any specific maps that are better for it. So, play the game a lot is the best advice we can give.
atomic abyss
You already pushed campaign all the way? You whale
remote quarry
c1 opSi is strictly for endless levelling
remote quarry
Manjuu appreciates your financial support. They are the Chinese Bernie Sanders.
barren tapir
commissions are a bonus from c1 
it's worth acknowledging but doing c1 for them alone isnt worth it
forest palm
farm C1 but the trade offer is your sanity
whole crypt
C1 is better than 2-1 back in the day
barren tapir
not a trade off if you didn't have any to begin with 
whole crypt
at least you can let it repeat itself
faint cloud
@slow fox 超巡 is CB, 重巡 is CA tho
And 阿芙乐尔 is avrora not aurora
barren tapir
also if you insist on doing low oil campaign for gem comm chances you might as well do it when farming something else - 3-4 if you need akaga for collection, 6-4 for yuudachi, 6-x for low cost purple plates
don't just stick to 2-1 like a dummy
whole crypt
actually if you're at a point where you go to 2-1 everything else is practically useless
I'd rather fish for grey plates in 2-1 than try for purples higher
barren tapir
2-x can be considered once ur an actual endgame player, until then it's better to at least dual-farm something when fishing for comms like c1 or 6-x
whole crypt
that said I'm not even sure if CN botters do ch2 anymore
barren tapir
idk
i do think it's still worth doing if you want more cube/gem chances to the exclusion of everything else, but the tradeoffs need to be acknowledged and understood
slow fox
<@325201276520366081> 超巡 is CB, 重巡 is CA tho
And 阿芙乐尔 is avrora not aurora<:Buli...
Thank you
viscid swift
Riceist put it best, you would be better off working minimum wage at an actual job and using your pay check to buy gems than farm 2-1 for it
the returns are just that poor
whole crypt
which is why I just buy my gems
slow fox
you doing something with CN stuff?
Thanks to dfg, I've obtained CN eHP. I've translated their eHP document, and I'm comparing their findings with mine.
whole crypt
ah
slow fox
1: Their process is similar to eHP2. (taking arithmetic average of uptime)
2: They put hitshields at ~10 to ~20% DmgRed (their calculation doesn't include average damage of enemy bullets, I think)
3: They account for slashes (not sure how they do it yet)
4: Their considerations are for max tech
5: They use Eugen as 100.14
whole crypt
is it the one they have on wiki
slow fox
It is NOT.
The one they have on the wiki is made by someone who refuses to share his methods.
whole crypt
mind sharing or is it going to be on eHP chart
slow fox
I'd be grateful for a translation of these columns in context of the sheet. teehee
In 'compute' page
dusky vale
what guns are good on agir
forest palm
305 from PR4
whole crypt
first 3
no including burns, ramming, fixed HP (probably like Laffey II)
not including vs FP / TRP / AVI
woeful moon
what's a suggested formation for queen elizabeth META?
whole crypt
next 3 is including fixed HP
rapid grail
what guns are good on agir
pretty much every CB gun except brest's gun
guam gun > kronshtadt gun > aegir gun for AP
azuma gun is their only option for HE lol. for now
outer schooner
What's the pre-req for unlock the event' SP stage?
forest palm
complete D3
whole crypt
the last 3 is probably something related to actual eHP but I can't tell from the table because the data is completely broken in opencalc
rapid grail
what's a suggested formation for queen elizabeth META?
3 CV OR 3 BB with any META on the frontline nowadays
back then, Renown, Souryuu, Helena METAs were the go to choices. Nowadays, Jintsuu and Wichita METAs are also available for you to do Queen Elizabeth META with
outer schooner
complete D3
I must be derping. I only see B3.
forest palm
there's a toggle on the bottom left
rapid grail
I must be derping. I only see B3.
you can swap the difficulty from Normal to Hard on the bottom left
Hard is D3
outer schooner
There's the derp. Thank you.
forest palm
it's a new thing, so it's just growing pains
atomic abyss
You know what, I shd just pin that here since it's pinned in al-gen
Q. How do I switch to Hard Mode?
woeful moon
3 CV OR 3 BB with any META on the frontline nowadays
back then, Renown, Souryuu,...
jintsuu meta? did i perhaps miss that time. i dont see it on the meta ships
rapid grail
jintsuu meta? did i perhaps miss that time. i dont see it on the meta ships
she's the META that succeeded Algerie META's run. She'll be there once the Dossier is updated next time, probably after Taihou META's run. Though it is possible for her rerun to be delayed because of devs and gaem balans
woeful moon
got ya, its just odd bc a year ago i was still playing. it was only earlier this year that i stopped for a bit, because i do see algerie meta on my account
atomic abyss
Jin meta was December 2023 iirc
woeful moon
even if i wasnt playing at that time they should still show, right?
rapid grail
dossier shows the METAs up to Algerie META atm
woeful moon
Okay thank you, cause yeah this is all I get for mine
rapid grail
😳
sharp socket
me when 4 radar, i got my ceiling
rapid grail
wife
forest palm
that feels kind of...disappointing
eternal moth
me when 4 radar, i got my ceiling
121k seems low for Ply for some reason, especially with 4 procs. Does she have a +13 gun?
sharp socket
i could improve this with more +13s but i think itll just be a 1.3 at max
sharp socket
121k seems low for Ply for some reason, especially with 4 procs. Does she have a...
+10 plygun, crescent aux
i dont have enough gun plates for +13
forest palm
plenty of time to improve
eternal moth
What gun does Musashi have?
sharp socket
well actually i have the blanks i havent used since the beginning
forest palm
time to work on your Hit Tech, and RLD Tech
sharp socket
i can prob make some changes
mainly swapping in less survivability
before you ask no i dont have a daisen gun yet
forest palm
there isn't a lot of pressure on vanguards so ya
viscid swift
you have Amagi CV and Shinano yeah?
sharp socket
amagi isnt 125 yet
rapid grail
take the UR CV pill
forest palm
Lv 120?
viscid swift
even if not 125 should would still do better than this
sharp socket
120 yes
forest palm
good enough
undone plover
maintank plymouth and run sth with dmg imo
rapid grail
CVs are bound to be better since the TBs focus on Taihou herself. BBs wouls just aim 2 of their shots onto the trash mobs Taihou summons throughout the fight.
viscid swift
not to mention they just do less damage against heavy armor to begin with
undone plover
even if not 125 should would still do better than this
I think it will be hard without proper stopper
AvP is rly bad vs heavy 
viscid swift
Ark Royal plus Eldridge will be good enough
rapid grail
plus Eldridge can take care of most of the AA needs
undone plover
Another issue is u need CV rld to sync to helena
sharp socket
i can cook something hold on
viscid swift
well there BBs aren't syncing that well to begin with...
forest palm
you've also got Musashi using HE which is her absolute weakest
viscid swift
unironically, one big damage boost to the fleet would be moving Musashi off flag in that set up
forest palm
seems like it
slow fox
@sweet delta Do you think I should steal CN damage distributions?
14-4 Boss 45/45/10, FP/TRP/AVI
FP 0.36/0.62/1, H/M/L
TRP 0.6/0.8/0.1
AVI 0.65/0.82/0.98
14-4 Mob 40/30/30
FP 0.5/0.75/1
TRP 1.2/0.9/0.7
AVI 1.3/1/0.8
15-4 Boss 25/15/60
FP 0.36/0.62/1
TRP 1.22/1/0.88
AVI 0.65/0.82/0.98
(CN testing apparently)
forest palm
feel like Musashi would fair better with any AP Gun at this point too