gameplay-help

[sharp socket]

and then switch out sushi for vanny for light, thats what ive been doing

[stark quiver]

my "standby" fleets are xfleets
as long as my one fleet isnt shit then my xfleet takes care of bosses

[sharp socket]

but i dont wanna do that which is why i want to make an anti light fleet

[atomic abyss]

I'll be frank

[stark quiver]

opsi too ez for it to matter

[atomic abyss]

Anti light CV without kears is just suspect

[viscid swift]

and I know it is often joked that people over-focus on META fights, but it's a difficult fight you expect to do 5 times daily for almost 3 months
you do it more often than just about everything else except W12/event farming

[atomic abyss]

It's not that you can't, it's just, at that point use BBs

[atomic abyss]

Sorry, without kears and sufficient HVAR

[sharp socket]

well id get hvars

[forest palm]

get this for all things considered ops, outside of Arbiter, you can use AP regardless of armor type, and you can get away with this because the penalty AP faces against Light is less than the reverse, so you can just brute force a lot of ops fights

[viscid swift]

add in Skyraider as well at that point

[atomic abyss]

This is part of the reason why I am recommending players to wait for yk2 before sinking le bulins

[stark quiver]

i would kear/yk2/enty gear look with only 1 skyraider

[viscid swift]

Enterprise gets it

[stark quiver]

what does yk2 use

[sharp socket]

don't bother asking why i shouldn't just use BBs because im already doing that

[viscid swift]

Tenrai of course

[atomic abyss]

No question
Enty scales tremendously with better gear

[stark quiver]

fuck i shouldntve skipped first yk2

[forest palm]

eh...the only thing you really miss is the HVAR

[wind hazel]

eh, comps aren't gonna use 2 skyraider correct?

[sharp socket]

i just want more options because thats what endgame is about imo, have many options to do one thing, i cant just stare at my skins for 10 hours and call it gameplay

[forest palm]

they might

[atomic abyss]

I would think they should

I'm sure it's possible
It's just gonna cause a lot of headaches

[viscid swift]

really shouldn't have

[forest palm]

brother just has this shit sitting in his back pocket lmao

[viscid swift]

I just created it lamo

[atomic abyss]

I mean, having the options is moot when your comp is scuffed lol

[stark quiver]

yea i remmeber going into event, pulling, getting ham2 getting pissed and just quitting the game for a year

[sweet delta]

Is fritz better than 100% enterprise? Especially when there's a moving boss

[viscid swift]

probably not, I was just doing it as a meme mainly

[stark quiver]

praying they keep the bug, surely 3 hvars is farmable with 400 helps

[forest palm]

who does more damage btw Napoli, and Kronk?

[viscid swift]

Kronshtadt

[atomic abyss]

Should be kron

[sharp socket]

it cant be that scuffed if its rainbow and somewhat has synergy

[atomic abyss]

It can be

[sharp socket]

so should i not dev nakhi and just do pr6 then

[atomic abyss]

What?

[stark quiver]

question is what are you even trying cook up

[viscid swift]

nah, it's about raising every ship into the game to 120 starting with the first phase that is tech

[wind hazel]

he just wants antilight

[sharp socket]

i just want anti light that is not "just use BBs"

[plain saffron]

Just use BB

[hollow gust]

Sakura works too

[wind hazel]

💀

[atomic abyss]

Nagami...

At that point yes, unironically Sakura

[sharp socket]

cause im already using BBs

[stark quiver]

if you cant make the good anti light fleet, just whip out your mk6/7s
idk why youd wanna skip pr7

[plain saffron]

I mean if you want best antilight
And your CV is not enough for the CV antilight fleet
Why not just use BB?

[sharp socket]

and people here keep praising CVs so i just thought to make one

[hollow gust]

Sakura better too

[atomic abyss]

We do, but we don't make 3 UR CV comps

[viscid swift]

yeah, but they also need much higher levels of investment and finessing

[plain saffron]

If BB the best you can do, what's wrong with BB

[storm heron]

maybe his BB has exercise gears

[sharp socket]

because i like more stuff

[viscid swift]

a CV comp has a higher skill ceiling but BBs have higher skill floor

[plain saffron]

But do you have the ship and equips needed?

[atomic abyss]

It's the same logic we tell new players

It's better to have 2 properly built comps than 3 half assed ones

[viscid swift]

point is, I'm saying your new CV comp has every chance of just being worse than the BBs you're using for the time being

[stark quiver]

if=
cant make reccomended comp -> use bbs for now
its that simple honestly, cutting corners wont help your fleets

[sharp socket]

it's different now because im not fighting to clear content

[bold cove]

Do you guys know which BB come after yk2? For me using cv seem require alot of investment

[viscid swift]

should be Zwei in terms of reruns

[stark quiver]

if you rly want just do yk2 enty nakh i guess

[atomic abyss]

We talking about URs or SRs

[plain saffron]

Create BB, create CV, pick best

[sharp socket]

my properly built comps can do harbiter

[plain saffron]

But i can say BB antilight is enough

And much easier to time

[bold cove]

Either, i had musashi, fdg fs5, odin, ruppy, richie... Thats it

[sharp socket]

so currently i have 3 good comps that can beat hardest arbiter

i just want a 4th

[storm heron]

same, that's why I said to new players too, it's better to have 1 properly built comps than a mob and a boss comp

[atomic abyss]

I'd do what cheeky said earlier

Craft your fleets based on the harbi

[sharp socket]

half assed rainbow cant be worse than half assed gold and purple

[viscid swift]

well, why not turn your attention to say Taiho META if you can beat Harbiter just fine

[atomic abyss]

And not just rainbow bullshit go

[stark quiver]

i invite you to pvp

[viscid swift]

because Taihi META you'll be fighting a lot more often

[wind hazel]

who do you put on 3rd slot if you don't have kearsarge, nakhimov or implacable? for yk2+enterprise

[sharp socket]

that is what im doing too

[atomic abyss]

Half assed rainbow is worse than a properly geared good fleet

[viscid swift]

or yeah PvP to improve gold bullin income

[bold cove]

Example, full BB, full CV or 1 BB 2CV?

[sharp socket]

cant i work on multiple things at once

[viscid swift]

like, they're not mutually exclusive but considering Taiho wants anti heavy there's not much overlap with an antilight set up

[atomic abyss]

I'll be frank, you only really need 3 BB

[sharp socket]

also maihou is heavy while im cooking for light so its different

[bold cove]

Im those ships can form a properly 3 BB?

[viscid swift]

I'm not talking about cooking, moreso dedicating resources like gold plates, and levelings ships and such

because formulating a plan and executing it are 2 very different things

[sharp socket]

if im not leveling ships to use im just doing tech

[storm heron]

what is this discussion about again? oh nvm I found his topic

[viscid swift]

well, you still have to get Ark Royal

[sharp socket]

i have that planned for after yk2

[atomic abyss]

Well, ideally
Musashi and FdG for now
If you lack MLB NJ, get Duke of York from medal shop and use her as a SR Vanny

That's the best BB comp you can make as of now
Bis2 rerun is still quite a ways away
Probably July?

[wind hazel]

who to use here

[storm heron]

amagi shinano implac can do anti light given perfect cv cats

[atomic abyss]

Unless they throw us another UR BB in March or May

[bold cove]

Ill use pity to get shinano, so no NJ in near future, wait for alsace, zwei rerun

[viscid swift]

give or take, depending on what they rerun inbetween

[atomic abyss]

Nakh if you have Tash raised with Aug

Otherwise go impla

[wind hazel]

if you don't have those 3

[bold cove]

Soyuz is mostly use in pvp?

[atomic abyss]

Oh sorry I ENed

[viscid swift]

AvP

[atomic abyss]

Both pvp and opsi and even campaign

[storm heron]

she's UR BB, she's just used as much anywhere else

[stark quiver]

soy gud

[atomic abyss]

AvP yes
Cos she's better at anti light/med anyways

[bold cove]

Ah okay wait for her to rerun too, im better hope new BB come around

[atomic abyss]

Just go with what I said for now

Vanguard archive shd be sometime next year as well

[bold cove]

Musashi, fdg and duke of york

[atomic abyss]

That's a proper boss comp

Well a poverty one
But still a proper one

[hallow mountain]

Ironic how my favorite AL girl isn't sexy or skimpy at all
Is she any good

[stark quiver]

good tech

[atomic abyss]

Well, in 2019 she was good...

[viscid swift]

reload tech

[hallow mountain]

Damn

[atomic abyss]

Now she's just tech fodder ye

[bold cove]

I had nagato meta mlb and max skill, izumo, nelson (non retrofit), and mlb hood also

[hollow gust]

Baatan was always mid

[atomic abyss]

Nah she was actually good back then

[hallow mountain]

Your mom was last night

[atomic abyss]

Cos we didn't have indep retro lel

[atomic abyss]

Totally unnecessary.

[hallow mountain]

Well deserved insult to a newbie

[viscid swift]

wasn't Casablanca budget Independence not Bataan

[atomic abyss]

Casa came out even later

[hallow mountain]

Should I get Independence

[hollow gust]

[hallow mountain]

From the Core shop

[viscid swift]

eventually yes

[atomic abyss]

Well someone is getting warned

[hallow mountain]

Although I'm still working on Fritz and the Italian lady

Forgot her name

[eternal moth]

Napoli?

[storm heron]

italian lady like all tall rn ships

[hollow gust]

A newbie shouldn't be working in Napoli though

[storm heron]

A newbie should be working in Aquila

[south sequoia]

On*

[exotic wren]

a newbie should be pulling UR and asking here if it's good while saying they got em in first x pull

[atomic abyss]

And the oldies should know when it's time to stop harping on an issue that's already over

[hollow gust]

[ocean pilot]

who should i mlb first? z52 or rumey? i have few UR CV like shinano and amagi
DD i have laffey2 mogador shimakaze

[hollow gust]

Z52 if you have the other UR CVs

[ocean pilot]

does research ship like haku and nakimov count?

[hollow gust]

Sure

[dusky vale]

if i dont have bismarck zwei who else is a good partner for rumey

[hollow gust]

Other CVs, also zwei and rumey for non campaign is

[ocean pilot]

oh and what about old UR like uvh and kron? i have but not mlb yet

[stark quiver]

low prio

[hollow gust]

You can ditch UVH and kron lol, there are so many comparable or better ships

[ocean pilot]

thanks both of u

[dusky vale]

wait why is that

[hollow gust]

Cause CVs work better with other CVs, the only exception these days are Nahkimov , but that's cause of her skill

[elfin hollow]

How long does it take a ship fully max mood with and without using dorm

[pseudo saffron]

Should I retire some purple bullins bc I have way too many and not enough dock space

[viscid swift]

better to use them

[dusky vale]

is august von parseval good

[hollow gust]

Yes

[lyric briar]

Whats a comfy 1 shot fleet for algerie meta

[viscid swift]

do you have Bismarck Zwei

[lyric briar]

I have all the ships*

[stark quiver]

but are they maxed

[viscid swift]

actually some fine tuning

vanguard is just me trying to see how much damage I could squeeze out

[exotic wren]

Whazzat aux on hinden?

[viscid swift]

from the to love ru collab

[exotic wren]

Ouh

[versed forum]

how many steam catapult should i invest?, already have 8

[lyric briar]

Imma try it brb

[exotic wren]

I'd say 10, tho I had 18 at +12 and 6 more at 10

[sharp socket]

as many as you need

so like 8-10

if w15 then get 6 more

but for +13, max 6

[glossy granite]

Guys how do i deal with this max dock man its so annoying everytime

[storm heron]

you need 14 right

[uneven cave]

UR gear farm is Q research spam right

[sharp socket]

buy more dock

[glossy granite]

I only got 1200 gems :/

Feels like i need 600+ at least lmao

[tepid frigate]

I mlb a copy of vanguard thinking that not upgrading her rld stats would make her sync with other ships
Should i keep that copy or nah?

[storm heron]

Q > 2 hours E > Grant Donation > Face or fastest

[eternal moth]

And most of that should go towards dock space.

[sharp socket]

sounds like 60 dockspace of gems

[viscid swift]

for what, either way might wanna give #bot-spam /gems a read

[sharp socket]

it was a bad idea in the first place, just keep

assuming that you have 2 mlb vannys

[plain saffron]

Both mlb? Keep

[sweet delta]

Not so comfy with 4 ships but...
https://youtu.be/x7MyvoNMDJo

Bisz+5

[viscid swift]

smh for forgetting about Algerie META's burn

[tepid frigate]

Is NJ still a solid ship? Or there's better option for BBs?

[warm cliff]

Which UR CV is better? Fritz Rumey, Shinano or Yorktown 2? Should I save my cubes to pull for Yorktown 2 next month?

[viscid swift]

she's been powercrept by newer UR BBs

[viscid swift]

depends on both what other ships you have but what you're fighting and yes

[warm cliff]

These are my ships

[sweet delta]

Where's your fritz?

[viscid swift]

and Amagi CV

[strange sphinx]

still pulling

that's why he is asking if Rumey, shinano, or YK2 better

[warm cliff]

Yeah I’m still deciding whether for not I should pull for Fritz or save for YK2. I only have 350 cubes currently. And I wasn’t active when Amagi CV came out

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm YK2 is best in Anti Light gang while Rumey is Anti med

[tepid frigate]

Is this gun good?
Still can't upgrade it to 457 yet

[frank pulsar]

its pvp only gun, just leave it until you can upgrade it to 457

[warm cliff]

Alright thanks!

Also where does Vanguard fit best in my fleets?

Fleet comp (boss):
Soyuz
Enterprise
Saratoga
Anchorage
San Deigo
Helena

Fleet comp (mob):
Alsace
Independence
Unicorn
Friedrich Carl
Tai Yuan
Yat Sen

*All ship are mlb and retrofitted

[sweet delta]

Every single new UR has been worth pitying or attempting to

[mellow cape]

Yo is York town 2, Kearsarge, and Enty/implacable > than Haku, Shimano, and Implaceable? For medium and heavy? I know York is specialized in light but using Hakuryuu for 2 years now feels awful

[viscid swift]

for heavy absolutely not

[sweet delta]

What?

[viscid swift]

and if you wanted to replace her then you should have pulled Amagi CV

[mellow cape]

I'm coping not having Amagi cv

[stark quiver]

If it works don’t touch it

[viscid swift]

then keep using Hakuryu

[mellow cape]

[hollow gust]

How does using haku feel awful,just cause amagi is slightly better doesn’t change the fact she was the highest damage CV before

[mellow cape]

Mmm maybe awful is the wrong word

[stark quiver]

Feels repetitive?

[mellow cape]

Mundane? Like imagine playing a video game and you use the same tool over and over again for the same solutions

Yeahhhhh she is still my go to CV for heavy and med

[viscid swift]

can't say I feel the same

[stark quiver]

Well different problems require different solutions, haku just happens to still be good

[viscid swift]

there is something to be said for having an "old reliable"

someone who performs consistently well and never disappoints

[mellow cape]

I never said she didn't do any of that well loll

[amber frost]

kami lies.....

[mellow cape]

Huh???

[atomic abyss]

I chose a good time to come back didn't I

[stark quiver]

Nonetheless, yk2 isn’t as good as ijns for heavy

[strange sphinx]

is shinano in IJN CV fleet with Amagi CV buffs Amagi?

[atomic abyss]

I hope you mean the opposite...

[hollow gust]

You were the one who chose to play meta, it’s perfectly possible to use worse ships

[stark quiver]

Omega typo 💀

[strange sphinx]

[mellow cape]

She is my pillar for medium and heavy lol. She's good lol, I don't know where y'all thought I said she was bad. Like if I needed a med/heavy solution she's an auto fill

[sweet delta]

Even considering the possibility of Enty beating IJN URs at heavy is blasphemy

[viscid swift]

we never said that, just why on earth you would think about replacing her just because you feel the need to change things up

[mellow cape]

Have you ever went to a restaurant and ordered the same Alfredo pasta and then wanted some shrimp diablo pasta

[stark quiver]

No

[mellow cape]

Doesn't hurt to want something new

[stark quiver]

I don’t go outside

[viscid swift]

put it like this, victory is the greatest taste of all

[atomic abyss]

[mellow cape]

das just preference loll

[atomic abyss]

Well we've gotten off topic

[stark quiver]

Anyways…… you can put yk2 enty in heavy and they probably won’t do really bad, but they won’t do good

[viscid swift]

anyway, if you don't want this to happen in future keep active in the game pull for new URs

[mellow cape]

Tbh I'm not really focused on one shotting meta ships lol.

Yeah, I'll probably switch over to Kearsarge/Enty/york

[strange sphinx]

question again, does Kear dev 25 kind of Usable?

[stark quiver]

No
Farming level yes
Actually using for stuff no

[strange sphinx]

thank you

[sweet delta]

if you have yorkii mlb and several hvars and skyraider then sure

[mellow cape]

Lucky for you it should come back soon .. hopefully

[strange sphinx]

well just farming yes

[stark quiver]

Yes then she’s fine
Just don’t expect her to do rly good

[mellow cape]

For Kearsarge timing do you think I could just adjust my fleet tech so it aligns more with York and Enty

Or should I just mainly do it via gear

[viscid swift]

what timings exactly

[mellow cape]

Isn't her damage buff dependent on her shells hitting?

I haven't used Kearsarge at all

[stark quiver]

Doesn’t kear hvars fire at like 20.9~

[viscid swift]

well yes but she's a battleship, naturally faster than CVs

[stark quiver]

Just time cvs to be a bit closer, you want to get the planes close anyways

[mellow cape]

Mmm weird so I don't have to worry about the gun? I got the plane timing down but it's kinda funky doing it with kearsarge

[sharp socket]

kear is hard to sync with CV, i tried to do stuff but it seems like a pain

[mellow cape]

Yeahhhh like I can't seem to get it right lol

[stark quiver]

Not rly , cuz gun gonna be firing fast

[sharp socket]

need some real fast CV to do it

[viscid swift]

you do know once Kearsarge inflicts her debuff for planes it's perma until she fires her main guns again right?

[mellow cape]

Oh it's perma??

Well nice I won't stress about it as much

[viscid swift]

When this ship's Main Guns hit an enemy: 50% (100%) chance to increase the target's airstrike DMG taken from your Main Fleet by 4%; if the target is already affected by an AA stat debuff, further increases that target's airstrike DMG taken from your Main Fleet by 8%. This effect lasts until the next time this ship fires her Main Guns.

[stark quiver]

So basically the buff is just continuous , not counting for the firing time?

[viscid swift]

yes

[strange sphinx]

[mellow cape]

Mmmm that's actually so nice loll

[viscid swift]

have you not read her skills until this point....

[mellow cape]

Noo loll I finally maxed her skills today

[strange sphinx]

EN

[mellow cape]

Honestly I got her dev 30'ed and ignored her for a year now

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

is this scuffed

[stark quiver]

Yes it is

[viscid swift]

I don't bother syncing Kearsarge with CV stops and such

[sharp socket]

skyraider is a full second slower

how does the rockets hit then

[stark quiver]

Then just make adjustments

[viscid swift]

they're rockets, pretty high hit rate to begin with

[sharp socket]

so just dont sync kear planes at all?

[viscid swift]

not to mention with an EU plane her first airstrike cooldown is 30% faster

[viscid swift]

If this ship has an Eagle Union or Northern Parliament aircraft equipped: increases this ship's AVI by 1% (10%) and decreases the loading time of her 1st airstrike by 15% (30%).

[sharp socket]

alright yep thats hitting nothing

[mellow cape]

I have this on my Kearsarge just for generic, I'm trying to time my fleets off of Kearsarge but now learning more about her, should I adjust?

[viscid swift]

just gonna leave this here

[stark quiver]

Could use a afct but looks fine

[viscid swift]

that's fine, not much to change really

[stark quiver]

Cheeky would you mind making me a comp for light armor

[viscid swift]

sure

[strange sphinx]

what the next opsi Arbiter Armor?

[stark quiver]

Prolly gonna have kear yk2 enty, 1 sky raider, 4 hvars

[stark quiver]

Light

[strange sphinx]

What's other Aircrafts that are anti light?

[stark quiver]

La9 and 109g

[mellow cape]

These were my York and Enty, yay or nay

[sharp socket]

so itll be like this then

[mellow cape]

La 9 😭 automatically jelly

[sweet delta]

actually yorkii kear enty can kill taihou meta

[stark quiver]

Did you just try that

[strange sphinx]

[sweet delta]

no

brb rolling a 3% chance battle

[stark quiver]

Python code?

[hollow gust]

Give the raider to enterprise, it’s free sync

[stark quiver]

Thank u ima just save that rq

[mellow cape]

Oooh ty goose

[strange sphinx]

alpha, what are anti heavy Aircrafts then?

[hollow gust]

Might as well run Vit-2 too

[stark quiver]

Converging torpedo bombers, la9s tenrais

[stark quiver]

That’s works too

[strange sphinx]

Kimi, what if both Yk2 and Enty are Oathed 200 affinity

[hollow gust]

That doesn’t change

[viscid swift]

nothing changes

[strange sphinx]

ic, I thought the reload

[hollow gust]

Enterprise is near guaranteed sync as long as she is slower

So you can run your skyraider and Vit-2s with no consequence

[stark quiver]

Never thought I’d ever use enty again, but here we are

[crisp estuary]

[mellow cape]

She does surprising amounts of damage lol

[crisp estuary]

Never not used her

[hollow gust]

Although a non guranteed slow is kinda troll

Especially when AVP is around

[strange sphinx]

how many bp do I need for HVAR? Like other gold 25?

[hollow gust]

15

[strange sphinx]

oh 15

[viscid swift]

.

[strange sphinx]

[stark quiver]

I wish it was 15 lol

[hollow gust]

Wait yeah it's 25, haven't grinded it in ages

[mellow cape]

When the event comes back does anything change with a second sky raider?

[stark quiver]

It should replace a tenrai

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 get's the 2nd

nothing else changes

[hollow gust]

That's just overkill , would rather max another la-9 over skyraider

[mellow cape]

Those are two different answers lol

[strange sphinx]

what's the prediction for new Gold Gearlab craft?

[hollow gust]

No prediction

[little tree]

It's useless is mine kekw

[strange sphinx]

well it will not hurt you with 2 sky raider

[hollow gust]

It's a slow asf plane

Pain in the ass to optimize

[strange sphinx]

well can't hurt for extra

[sweet delta]

💀 3 scans 2% HP left

[thorn tartan]

what's the armor of the current opsi meta ship?

[crimson glacier]

heavy

[glossy granite]

Guys... any decent way to get coins fast? Cant claim mails cuz of too much oil and i dont want to deposit from my storage, i am so broke i cant even limit break ships i want

[stark quiver]

grind more

[storm heron]

I mean you have too much oil, if you grind at event D3, you can easily get at least 44k for 10k oil

[glossy granite]

But if i suck and i am on B2/3?

[plain saffron]

D2 it is

Still can't? D1. Also can't? Lvl up more, farm highest

[fast steppe]

what's this do

[glossy granite]

You unlock the secrets

[storm heron]

it unlocks asmr

[stark quiver]

asmr

around 15m~ opf fan service

[storm heron]

press
~|
/
L
press memories->secrets

[sharp socket]

the asmr also comes with a short l2d video and has subtitles

[eternal moth]

Oh, they put subtitles on? I didn't realize that, thanks

[sharp socket]

well for the 2 that i got last drop yes

i didnt get any of the perma ones so those im not sure

[storm heron]

ofc they put sub

[glossy granite]

Is it great gooning material at least?

[sharp socket]

not a question for gph

[sweet delta]

it somewhat works. i guess.

[mellow cape]

Hahaha nice

I'll rock it then

[wind hazel]

full E proc?

[sweet delta]

4 E's and 3 scans

[sharp socket]

[wind hazel]

💀

[amber frost]

Almost an all white hair gurls team. Prize:

[crimson glacier]

so what is the point

whats that fleet for

[mellow cape]

My question earlier

Loll I was asking if York, kear, and Enty were usable for heavy and med

Over my typical Shin, haku, and Implaceable

[storm heron]

the point is, they are anti heavy given the right circumsatances

[sharp socket]

stars alignment comp

plus whatever jacked tech suchi has

[viscid swift]

That math made no sense

[storm heron]

what math

[sharp socket]

[storm heron]

you ain't seeing nothing

[plain saffron]

Math

[storm heron]

5% chance of this being anti-heavy, noted

[faint jacinth]

how is Z52?

[storm heron]

prettu good

[sharp socket]

is DB hit rate better when enemy is stopped

[clever lance]

If you pull an SR that you already MLB, is there anything else to do with it other than retire?

[eternal moth]

The only other thing would be dressing them up in different skins

[clever lance]

Lame

[storm heron]

less error and better variance I guess? I don't see why the expected hit rate would get better

[storm heron]

can be used for retrofit material of the same ship

[clever lance]

It just enterprise. No retrofit :(

[sweet delta]

||yet||

[tropic tusk]

But till this day she's still good

[clever lance]

Right. But I have her MLB. But pulled another copy and have no use for it -_-

[keen sable]

sure you do. medals are useful

[clever lance]

Yeah. Just verifying that that’s the only remaining use for her

[keen sable]

better than dupe ur

[storm heron]

I mean, this fleet is just full tech fleet, good for levelling but unusable for anything else

[tropic tusk]

As they say U can put different skins on them

[storm heron]

do note that some ships have a very niche use even if you mlb'ed them

for example helena level 1 dupe

[tropic tusk]

Imma put a ring on the 3rd one soon

[sharp socket]

2 oath uni

[tropic tusk]

I'm going for 10 first

[amber frost]

I have her date uniform, she looks way much cooler in that.

[keen sable]

Z52 is pretty good

[tropic tusk]

I'm only missing those 2 but looks like I can't obtain them anymore

[keen sable]

please go spoot somewhere else

[storm heron]

z1's evaluation to be determined cause she buffed z52

[crimson glacier]

why is this happening in gph

[storm heron]

ofc, she gives +1 fp to all destroyers when level 120

[amber frost]

Now if I could get my unicorned to trade blows with my javelin, that be a true fight to see.

[stark quiver]

Take the skin discussion somewhere else

[storm heron]

probably not now though, you can do it as soon as you can farm 12-4 comfortably, otherwise go for more power first, in which case z1's power is to be determined

[keen sable]

not junk

[storm heron]

you can maybe post ur dock nvm just go farm D maps with your 1 fleet first, and
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[amber frost]

You have lots of work to do, get back to work and bring them near level 98.

[storm heron]

well didn't expect it to be so many

[keen sable]

what are we even looking at. you have no vanguards.

[storm heron]

nelson unicorn enterprise and presumable portland laffey helena
just level these 6 ships up in highest event stages thou can do, don't even think about building a second fleet for now

[left gull]

What should be my prio on ur bulins

[amber frost]

Put meta fuso to work along with admiral hipper, those 2 combine would be good as power hitters where your main fleet needs it most

[zenith heron]

What is the current loadout for Z52? Like Mog or nah?

[keen sable]

lock your ships...

[wind hazel]

like shimakaze

except the aug

[storm heron]

it's even cheaper than shimakaze

[zenith heron]

So torp based, or skill/barrage based?

[storm heron]

put fastest gun, whatever torp, double toolbox

[stark quiver]

Are the devs likely to keep the hvar drop bug

[wind hazel]

no idea

[barren tapir]

whoa

[storm heron]

well guys help

[stark quiver]

Do you have 4?

[left gull]

I can only get 3 rn but moving forward id like to know which i want to max

[pseudo saffron]

Anyone know about how much time it will take to get my ships to level 110 if they are all around lvl 100

[left gull]

Since ur bulins are hard to get

[pseudo saffron]

If I farm d3

[storm heron]

based on my experience, you don't need any fancy cv stuff, but I could be wrong

[stark quiver]

Amagi cv , Yorktown 2 , maybe rumey z52

[left gull]

Is yorktown coming soon?

[stark quiver]

Jan 9 rerun

[left gull]

Alr ill do em in order ig and try to get yorktown

[storm heron]

I can do it in 1 day

[pseudo saffron]

How many hours should it take

I’ve been farming for hours and haven’t got much xp

[storm heron]

you need 825k exp iirc

so like 6 hours?

[wind hazel]

follow up from yesterday's SP discussion, i guess rng is very kind today. 2* and 1* ooa, maybe will manually select the 3* tomorrow and see what happens

[barren tapir]

🐌

[storm heron]

aurora approved

[keen sable]

mmm between 40-120 sorties?

[pseudo saffron]

Damn

[barren tapir]

also that comment was about neptune actually

[pseudo saffron]

Is there a way to do more than 3 sorties at a time?

[keen sable]

you know you get like 0 xp for constant farming

[storm heron]

for main fleet it can be 66% quicker with mvp control

[pseudo saffron]

What’s that

[keen sable]

add 20% if you don't manage morale

[storm heron]

but banguards, probably more than 8 hours

but well I got 18 hours a day so that's nothing

[pseudo saffron]

How to grind xp then

[barren tapir]

real question is how long in c1

i can answer that in a minute

[eternal moth]

Make sure they're all in the dorm and don't farm when they're at 0 morale

[upbeat wagon]

is there a penalty if you do the same stage

[slender turtle]

How many points are we farming till in this event due to the Z52 currency?

[pseudo saffron]

They are in dorms rn

[lilac kelp]

Would investing in Vanguard be worth it to replace Bismarck Zwei within my boss fleet if they are having trouble with 14-2?

[keen sable]

you're limited to ~5 sorties an hour if p2w. maybe you can do it if you micromanage the dorm as f2p. otherwise your sortie rate is going to drop like a rock

[wind hazel]

depends on what you are buying, but if you wanna get 2nd copy you have to get at least 155 vouchers from shop

^and that's taking account that you didn't miss anything since day 1

[storm heron]

that's the wrong reason to invest in vanguard, and no, vanguard < bismarck zwei

[barren tapir]

lvl 100 to 110 = 665000 exp

just using baseline (morale+, no flag, no mvp) 288 exp per c1 node.

assuming 15s per node, this leads to about a 50s clear of the zone

that's about 72 clears per hour, or 144 nodes, or 41472 exp ok yeah c1 is slow

maybe my calc is off cos i always felt it's quite fast, with uni carry at least

[slender turtle]

Hmmm guess im farming this event a shit ton XD back to D3 I go

[barren tapir]

but uhh 15 hours in c1 i guess

[pseudo saffron]

What if I do d3?

[lilac kelp]

Am I most likely well off with enterprise and illustrious in my boss fleet as well? Trying to make sure that they aren’t the problem

[barren tapir]

but it's free and 0 need for breaks for morale so i mean it exists. realistically you do it when regenerating morale from 120 to 150

[storm heron]

what about putting all your 6 ships in dorm befor eyou start farming

[pseudo saffron]

I don’t understand why it’s limited to 5 sorties an hour

Do I have to clear manually?

[keen sable]

ignore them. unless you really plan to waste your life farming ops corrosion 1

[amber frost]

watch how the battles go, if they run out of steam quckly in battles, consider upgrading their stats or finding replacements to take over for them.

[eternal moth]

I assume it's due to morale.

[barren tapir]

5 sorties an hour?

d3 drains 12 morale per run, dorm regens 40-50 assuming f2p we just go with 40 bc you want all ships on morale+

that's 3 runs an hour

[vapid grotto]

Ayy i got her on 102/200 , is she really good or

[plain saffron]

Good yes

[pseudo saffron]

So what do I farm

[barren tapir]

just do like i do, 3 runs in 15 mins then 45 mins of c1

[amber frost]

work her too death

[plain saffron]

It have questions so not really trophy

[pseudo saffron]

Ok

[barren tapir]

[pseudo saffron]

Does c1 not take moral?

[keen sable]

because you can only regen 60 morale an hour. dropping your morale under 120 cuts your xp by 20%. forcing them at 0 you might as well not bother playing.

[vapid grotto]

Also should i get her when i can?

[barren tapir]

u can ask question without posting gacha result tho

[plain saffron]

Typing name is hard

[barren tapir]

opsi doesnt take morale

[late flame]

imagine tier5 UR

[barren tapir]

warspite in a few more years

[keen sable]

ops doesn't take morale...

[sharp socket]

if you want max xp efficiency its 5 sortie an hour, or 3 every 36min

[barren tapir]

what

[sweet delta]

Who is her? Z52 is free if you wait, but you can buy the second if you farm enough. Hipper is basically just for collection and can drop for free with good luck

[sharp socket]

if you dont bother with that or dont have a whole day to farm then do 12 every 3 hours

[eternal moth]

ok, why?

[vapid grotto]

Who do i replace

[barren tapir]

morale/hr is 40 and each sortie costs 12

if you can do full 2nd dorm it's 50 and can run 4

if all oath, it's 60 and can run 5

[vapid grotto]

The ur for 200

[sharp socket]

+20% xp when morale 120 or above

[barren tapir]

^

[pseudo saffron]

This c1?

[sharp socket]

so farm until morale hit 120, then stop and wait for regen

[keen sable]

no ignore them. use books

[eternal moth]

C1 in opsi

[wind hazel]

no he's talking about opsi corrosion 1, ignore that statement

[storm heron]

lol that's why you should say corrosion 1

[pseudo saffron]

I have 0 books

[noble osprey]

Guys is there a rating for the new UR ships yet?

[keen sable]

if you are so desparate to go from 100 to 110

make them

[wind hazel]

c1 opsi shouldn't be used as an exp leveling method for general players

[pseudo saffron]

Where do I find operation corrosion

[storm heron]

[lyric briar]

Whats a comfy 1 shot fleet for Taihou meta?

[sharp socket]

i suggest you dont do it

[pseudo saffron]

Ok

[wind hazel]

just stick to D3 for your leveling purpose

[sweet delta]

There is none, all strats use top tech and gear

[pseudo saffron]

Ima just run d3 24/7

[storm heron]

you won't be able to with the same ships

[wind hazel]

basically yes, do D3 until morale drops low>touch grass few hours>come back and farm again, repeat until whatever

[vapid grotto]

Free? So i shouldnt get the ur for 200? Thats like the only thing i planned to get

[storm heron]

free as in if you do the missions

if you can't, then you must convert some points to UR tickets

[vapid grotto]

I could only do up to B3 ,i cant do c1 and above

[storm heron]

is that still free guys?

[wind hazel]

free*

[sharp socket]

its not free in the literal sense

[keen sable]

free doesn't mean no effort imo

[storm heron]

cause SP is like 120

[sharp socket]

but it is easy to get

[wind hazel]

more free than fritz

[pseudo saffron]

Does it matter that half my ships are below 100 affinity

[sharp socket]

fritz is easier tho i got her in the first day

[keen sable]

and why are they?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[storm heron]

at least you can physically get fritz under 1 hour yes

[keen sable]

or maybe asked another way. were they 100 and now under?

[pseudo saffron]

No I just build some of the recently

[keen sable]

no it doesn't matter

[storm heron]

then it doesn't mattouh

[pseudo saffron]

Ok

Oh fuck my unicorn has 40 moral

[barren tapir]

did you dorm her

[amber frost]

I knoe you like unicon but remove her for the time being since she is the lowest level and she will be at rink of being wrecked.

[pseudo saffron]

Yes

[barren tapir]

what are you talking about

[keen sable]

dorm isn't going to save any ship from abuse

[pseudo saffron]

That’s what it meant

[barren tapir]

well duh, just double checking. anyway give her a break for a bit

[pseudo saffron]

Ah

[lilac kelp]

just did a battle, my mob steamrolls but my boss fleet is cooked, the vanguard is already on slivers of health by the time yamashiro pulls up and the planes kill my flagship

[vapid grotto]

Alright but i dont exactly like her,ice just been told to use her

[pseudo saffron]

Is this the thing yall were talking about?

[storm heron]

idk actually, maybe aurora can explain what she meant

[vapid grotto]

Hey what should i do with all the ships im not using ,can i retire some ,are there any bad ones?

[keen sable]

i don't think they were responding to you. YOU should continue using and not abusing unicorn

[storm heron]

oh yea z52 is free guys

[amber frost]

put her in dorm and let her do 10 hour level 70 commissions at night for a week, she will get way much better while upgrading her equipment, I did that for 2 weeks and dont regret it.

[storm heron]

just do curling 6 times and z52 is free

[lilac kelp]

Bismarck Zwei? She’s 125

[barren tapir]

you can probably safely ignore anything mr hurricane says

[vapid grotto]

Havent abused anyone ,dont even plan to?what

[barren tapir]

ive seen like 4 things in the past 15 minutes that make me go 'wtf'

[storm heron]

Dr. Hurricane

[amber frost]

ping me in a few hours its damn freezing I am headed back to sleep. gn.

[barren tapir]

at least when i suggest outlandish strategies, they do actually work theyre just not suitable for the typical player

[barren tapir]

dr implies respect

[sweet delta]

kimo is on discord?

[late flame]

lol

[storm heron]

aint no way

[barren tapir]

oh damn are you new to opsi lol

[lilac kelp]

would outlandish involve pulling up to world 13 with cheshire, isuzu and sandy

[vapid grotto]

Doesnt mr also imply the same?

[pseudo saffron]

Yep

[barren tapir]

nah mr is just like regular ass, dr implies bro has a phd

[vapid grotto]

Ah got it

[barren tapir]

the mr is used to emphasis the not using dr

[late flame]

phd in stupid gotcha

[storm heron]

guess what doctor implies disrespect

[barren tapir]

that might be overkill, isuzu isnt really a good ship beyond aa carry

[wind hazel]

my lecturer once told me, phd means permanent head damage

[lilac kelp]

it was funny

[barren tapir]

[lilac kelp]

but now I gotta conform to actual strategy to get through world 14

[storm heron]

you know what's funnier? using bunker hill, houston II, and new orleans to clear 13-1 for the first time

[barren tapir]

...wait

[wind hazel]

le hacker

[barren tapir]

13-1 hm right? RIGHT??

[keen sable]

why not dewey

[lilac kelp]

which, contrary to my agenda, does NOT involve the use of Isuzu

[shut hedge]

What UR equips do i lack on gearlab?

[storm heron]

time to smack SP with 210 oil, saving 1400 oil per event

[vapid grotto]

What do i do with ships i dont use? Are there any bad ones i can retire?

[sweet delta]

What's cheapest consistent SP?

[indigo ore]

Any recommended fleet for 13-3 and 13-4 hard? Or just bring the strongest ships I have? (I have almost every ships btw)

[storm heron]

suchi what do you think about
alsace leander
richielieu eldridgeretro
210 oil
3 star clear

[sweet delta]

What u 3 starring SP for

[barren tapir]

i saw a very cheap one in trophy room one moment

[wind hazel]

being consistent is kinda tough this SP, i see a lot of different outcome using same fleet

[storm heron]

but you wanted consistent clear

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

tho they probably picked the enemies

[storm heron]

nah no way, wth is this

[keen sable]

bad is in the eye of the beholder but 90% of the ships in the game have no meta use

[wind hazel]

haven't failed so far

[barren tapir]

#trophy-room message idk

[sweet delta]

Wyvern or AA gun

[jade spire]

Is rumey and the other UR good?

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt know i just 2:1 bc i cba

[sweet delta]

But they have max DD AA tech

[sharp socket]

i do 2:1 because im lazy

[storm heron]

any suggestions for lower? tried mori's but failed

[wind hazel]

can change leander

[jade spire]

Do they belong in ex tier?

[barren tapir]

try a common dd

[sweet delta]

I did 175 oil today but didn't watch the battles

[storm heron]

yeah I think mahan can survive for 10s for sure

[wind hazel]

mahan with manjuu and alsace with 457+table can survive

[storm heron]

oh right manjuu

[keen sable]

bonus for leveling a ship

[wind hazel]

didnt even proc manjuu

[storm heron]

gotta try it with my level 70 lb0 mahan

[sharp socket]

i could try to 1:1 with uni sandy but i dunno

numba wan should do good things against the planes

[barren tapir]

its not super worth it to 1:1 if you think it has a chance to fail

[storm heron]

haha lol I stopped leveling leander as soon as I saw her AA tech

[leaden garden]

How good is this gun for Napoli https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_203mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)

[barren tapir]

i can 1:1, do i trust it, hell na

[wind hazel]

yeah i suggest to just use a cheap bb like nevada on mob if you're not confident

[storm heron]

prowler manjuu mahan

[sharp socket]

good enough cause she doesnt do much in dmg

[wind hazel]

2:1 the mob, then 1:1 boss

[keen sable]

it's a gun in a world where ur guns are almost like water

[leaden garden]

alright thanks

any purple secondary gun for napoli? i dont have much in gold

[storm heron]

bruh.

[wind hazel]

LMFAO

[storm heron]

oh well

[keen sable]

dew it

[sharp socket]

125 richie go

[wind hazel]

i did not expect that

[barren tapir]

guess u need 125 richie

actually only needs 124

[storm heron]

my []s

[keen sable]

strip someone? why do you have a napoli and no gear to use?

[barren tapir]

or pick a 125 ship over richie

[tame jungle]

or lv her up to 121 should work

[barren tapir]

like idk unicorn

[leaden garden]

i just gt her and i feel uncomfortable on removing another ship's gun

[barren tapir]

does avg round up or down? you need lvl124 for exactly 111

[sharp socket]

your air denial is probably a big issue ngl

[barren tapir]

and it needs to be 111 visually to accept it cos its >110

[vapid grotto]

ok but what do i do with the ships i dont use? when should i make fleet 2

[storm heron]

richie is insanely op because she just ignore all ramming ships

maybe I can make do with an elite bb

[barren tapir]

guess you're arraying her

[storm heron]

nah I wont use my []

[sharp socket]

well its time to feel comfortable with it cause youd be doing it alot more

[barren tapir]

dont old people stack up loads eventually

wait are you new

[sweet delta]

125 costs both arrays and chips

[sharp socket]

you could also just make more stuff

[storm heron]

Oh seyd

[barren tapir]

chips 🤏

[storm heron]

my seyd is 125 for some reason

[barren tapir]

waifu?

[sweet delta]

Probably watched one too many youtube videos about seyd

[sharp socket]

he already forgot seyd temporarily meta in pvp

[leaden garden]

aw..

[shut hedge]

How many wyverns needed?

[plain saffron]

There's vid about seyd?

[barren tapir]

well you can either use less ships, make more gear, or switch gear sometimes

[storm heron]

Jimmy's vid

[sweet delta]

No amount is needed, it's just making whatever you're trying to do easier

[barren tapir]

didnt he test seyd on safe 🚮

[quartz jungle]

Middle T0 now yeah

[upbeat wagon]

once i get roon i am replacing prinz eugen with her. should portland or roon be on boss or mob fleet

[keen sable]

twin `120 is basically the only usable purple dd gun. maybe you can also use the poverty single 127 HE

[sweet delta]

What levels are they?

[upbeat wagon]

assuming both are around level 100

[sharp socket]

for DD gun if youd like to craft one, pr5 DD gun or twin 128 from gearlab are solid options

[keen sable]

so confident in insta d30

[barren tapir]

roon wont be used until you coin her up anyway

[leaden garden]

thanks

[upbeat wagon]

hmm ok

[storm heron]

rip all pvp gears

[sharp socket]

pr5 DD gun is also allegedly best gold DD gun but don't quote me on this not the best gold DD gun now stop quoting me on this arigathanks

[sweet delta]

📸

[storm heron]

definitely not for sandy

[keen sable]

purty purple sap exists

[sharp socket]

i said dont quote me on this suchi

[sweet delta]

tash gun is already better than it almost everywhere

[storm heron]

now I hope boss will kill

[wind hazel]

i saw something cheating

[quartz jungle]

Btw I believe Unicorn + Mogador is cheaper than Seydlitz + Eldridge

[sweet delta]

#anime-manga

[leaden garden]

woops my bad

[barren tapir]

?

[sweet delta]

What about unicorn comet?

[leaden garden]

i'm jealous i can't retofrit eldridge i want able to get the item needed for the retrofit

[storm heron]

damn right

[quartz jungle]

Comet works?

[barren tapir]

wait comet has a barrage on every main gun fire

[sweet delta]

What's the problem with unicorn cassin again? Suicide boats or planes?

[storm heron]

suicide botes

[barren tapir]

it's only 32 base damage per but thats probably quite poggers regardless. scales off her HMS torp dd stat too

[sharp socket]

have you guys tried sandy

[sweet delta]

No,too expensive

[barren tapir]

COMET GOOD?!

(at least for cheap farming that needs mlb ships)

[wind hazel]

i used sandy before switching to eldridge

works fine when i used her

[clever lance]

I’m doing Mediterranean B safe zone daily for opsi. I cleared everything but when I go back to the map, it shows I didn’t clear the daily yet. It seems auto search failed me or something. Am I doing something wrong?

[barren tapir]

389 trp stat, aug gives hp/trp, skill gives 15% trp, gets a 32 dmg trp scaling bullet every main gun fire

[storm heron]

uni sandy won't fail?

[wind hazel]

didnt fail for me

[storm heron]

like ramming boats are such an issue that I switched to a bb

[barren tapir]

what does random target mean tho...is it completely random or is it select a random target and aim at it

[sharp socket]

i can get my SP down to 200 oil if i 1:1 mob with uni sandy

and then 2:1 boss

[barren tapir]

now i wonder how good comet is for a common dd that augment is pretty decent looking all things considered

[wind hazel]

1 bb :1 the boss

[sweet delta]

1:0 the boss

[quartz jungle]

Why do you need 2:1 boss?

[wind hazel]

you got alsace dont you, put her on boss with 457. it will kill the boss in 5s

[storm heron]

rn seyd eld survived 7 + 2 additional 3* node

[shell willow]

yuudachi cracked

[sharp socket]

air supremacy

[wind hazel]

the poi returns

[storm heron]

yeah dangit I don't have yuudachi

[barren tapir]

maybe she is worth using after all

[wind hazel]

did you do 3* ooa?

[sharp socket]

is that one fleet

[wind hazel]

im gonna select them tomorrow and see how it goes

[storm heron]

I guess that's your answer on your most cheapest that consistent fleet then?

[barren tapir]

no, boss is in action

[sharp socket]

oh nvm i see the boss node attacked

[barren tapir]

how do you not have her tho ngl

[keen sable]

after you are sure the 1st fleet won't need the resources which usually means they are mlb. but sometimes you can be forced to raise 2 or 3 extra ships. you have ships that you can consider for fleet 2 like sirius, shangri-la, nelson, and a ur.

[storm heron]

I spent like 3k oil in 6-4 already

[barren tapir]

mine's only 115 tho

will uni nana work i didnt try that, also do i need hedgehog

whats the gear setup needed im still convinced uni will die to suicide boats

[wind hazel]

from what i notice alsace barrage will help clear the first wave of suicide boats easily

[barren tapir]

crossfleet so not do without

[wind hazel]

just do 2:1

[shell willow]

uni + tripple 1 cost dd front with full crossfleet on other team might work

[clever lance]

Anybody?

[shell willow]

but idk

[barren tapir]

but do you guys use hedgehog or nah

[sharp socket]

just do 2:1 it works and doesn't fail unless your stuff is bad

[barren tapir]

nana barrage may be able to protect against suicide boats, i havent tested...

or should i do momo LOL

[sharp socket]

i didn't use hedgehog cause im lazy to switch

[wind hazel]

i dont, cause eldridge

[storm heron]

I am clearing all the mobs rn

[barren tapir]

i dont think momo plants are good for sp tho, the boats go in the middle from what i remember

[wind hazel]

did you maybe enter secured map?

[storm heron]

this is the last 3 star node, I also have 3 1 star node left

[sharp socket]

i dont think too much, i just send it and it works

[barren tapir]

why are you clearing all mobs in sp

[storm heron]

just for good measure

[wind hazel]

[sharp socket]

he likes spending oil

[clever lance]

Don’t think so

[barren tapir]

oh shit...forgot about daily login i can mlb aquila

[wind hazel]

go back to any port and go back in again

[storm heron]

3 more

[barren tapir]

AIR INCAPABILITY

[storm heron]

dw about eld, she got bubbly and toolbox

[barren tapir]

you're just bullying eldridge at this point

[crimson glacier]

whats even the point of this

[barren tapir]

[sharp socket]

is he trolling now

[barren tapir]

maybe uni's augment will give her a gun proximity barrage

[storm heron]

I'm just showcasing

[crimson glacier]

showcasing what

[storm heron]

the reliability

[shell willow]

nvm u dont even hit lvl req

[sharp socket]

trophy is the showcase channel

[crimson glacier]

doesnt seem reliable enough to be worth showcasing to me

[barren tapir]

try 2 dds

i bet you could do that with 2 dds + UR bulin 125 actually

[sharp socket]

try lb'ing one of them

just one lb

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

that's the worst advice to people who use them for lowfleets

[barren tapir]

if they have the UR bulin augment, lvl125 bulin + 2 0lb dds would be better and less oil to boot

trust me 🧠

[storm heron]

alsace cassin clears

[storm heron]

total: 196 oil

well 14 improvement

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[barren tapir]

christmas gachapon tasks change daily btw glad i didnt make ships

[wind hazel]

the build 3 ships didn't carry to today?

[shell willow]

2 dd is not even close so i doubt 3 would change a lot, i was completely off

[barren tapir]

gg

[barren tapir]

[sharp socket]

i made my SP oil cost 202 now

[plain saffron]

What does the gacha gives

[wind hazel]

best prize is 1500 gem x5 person
1000 x10 person

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

JP doesn't have that wtf is it

[storm heron]

en exclusive event

[barren tapir]

i hope i win i need dock space

[whole crypt]

rare JP L moment

[barren tapir]

rare EN W

[odd flame]

I need help with team building and wondering what’s the best teams I can use

[whole crypt]

have you tried Zuihou

[storm heron]

definitely die to suicide ships

I could be wrong but

I don't have 120 zuihou yet

so I'll let others' test

well at least I found something

Who knows maybe in the next 2 years after rerun people can recommend FybreDoggo's fleet

[digital yew]

Yo what is this mission? Is it the hard stages I didn't do like c1 c2 and d1 d2

I am guessing it's that but not sure

[sharp socket]

or you can just do uni sandy for mob, indep ply for boss and have 202 oil cost and doesnt die

[digital yew]

YOOOO

[sharp socket]

i also didn't thoroughly test it so someone else in place of ply could work too

[storm heron]

yes do em hard stages

exactly as it is written there

[shell willow]

it literally says, its the story

[whole crypt]

truth is no one will recommend because it's not worth the trouble and anyone who needs to ask in 2 years time won't have that set up ready

[strange sphinx]

does the three Augment of Lala, nana, and momo like stack?

[digital yew]

I know I thought I only needed to do the last stages like d3 so I did em

[sharp socket]

you can also get shafted by mobs blocking the path thus your oil cost gets higher

[digital yew]

But now I gotta do d1 and d2

[shell willow]

im confused on what the question is then

[whole crypt]

which missions, the one with the big (Pt)? those are for the frame mission just ignore them

[sharp socket]

tldr just 2:1 and live with spending 1400 more oil total throughout event than if you did 1:1

[storm heron]

do the story

I think yoou haven't done the story there

[vapid grotto]

what about both urs

[whole crypt]

or use a more expensive 1:1 and you still only spend like a couple hundred more across 2 weeks, and rerun is only going to be 1 week

[digital yew]

Yes I haven't completed c1 c2 and d1 d2 I think those are missing that's why

[atomic abyss]

stick with a singular fleet of indiana, enterprise, unicorn, chikuma, helena, laffey for now
dont have enough good ships levelled for a 2nd fleet

also, focus all your UR bulins into a single UR and dont spread them (so probably rumey since closest to mlb
then musashi

[whole crypt]

I haven't done C1, C2, D1 and D2, it's irrelevant

[storm heron]

the story tab is different from the campaign tab

[whole crypt]

story is its own tab now

[storm heron]

look for a toggle at bottom left

the thing that I am confused how do people even come up with UniYuda anyway for SP

[half plover]

is z52 best to mlb first?

[storm heron]

like someone's gotta do the testing right

[uncut ocean]

Question: What does the new furniture do? Or is it simply cosmetic

[whole crypt]

I used Unicorn/Yuudachi a long time ago, I just stopped using it because I ungeared Yuudachi

[atomic abyss]

all furniture is cosmetic only

[storm heron]

or do the idea just magically appear and "Oh yudachi can solve all the ramming problem!"

[uncut ocean]

Wrong.

[whole crypt]

wrong.

[atomic abyss]

some are more "cosmetic" than others

ultimately the only purpose they serve is as deco, and to add comfort to your dorm

[whole crypt]

if you want to argue comfort then that's a different issue and it's not really useful anyway

[uncut ocean]

Thank you

[atomic abyss]

no

i do think she will be more relevant than rumey

but the thing is, her viability doesnt hinge on her LBs

[whole crypt]

when Yuudachi retrofit was added she was one of the more reliable DDs that can solo some shit at regular SR DD cost

[atomic abyss]

my answer would be save the bulins for yk2

[azure salmon]

I'm too stupid to use search. Z52 better than laffey 2?

[half plover]

ty

[atomic abyss]

equally broken in their very different roles - is how i would describe them

[azure salmon]

Hmmm... One DD has DDs, the other doesn't... Gotcha

[atomic abyss]

they have some overlap in things they can do

but you wouldnt use them for the same purposes

[barren tapir]

wdym by stack

[atomic abyss]

they have that 18s thing

[azure salmon]

thank you

[fast steppe]

what's z52's role is there a review somewhere

[atomic abyss]

...everything plymouth can do, she can do as well, if not better
and she can also AA somewhat well

[fast steppe]

ok what can plymouth do

[whole crypt]

does she buff BB

[barren tapir]

well 1) their lasers can only be enhanced once, this is just at least 2 in the same fleet (300/300/300 -> 675/675/675). 2) all 3 lasers can coexist at once (staggered every 15s, 18s, 20s. very good for mobbing if they actually hit stuff, due to the natural staggered nature)

[storm heron]

that z52 take smells like jimmy

[atomic abyss]

tank, DPS, buff

[atomic abyss]

she... buffs everyone basically

[fast steppe]

i stopped playing right around pr5 release lol

[storm heron]

jimmy is a mod now?

[barren tapir]

she buffs entire fleet by 5% instead of bb by 18%

[atomic abyss]

CN calls her a ply powercreep* lol

[storm heron]

also ply does more damage in light

[barren tapir]

i can see it honestly

[fast steppe]

in other news guess who just finished researching ply

[spark ridge]

so z52 really good should invest?, or wait till yorktown 2 and save bulin (i only have 1 rainbulin rn, was gonna save until i have 4 before spending)
what about the other UR

[atomic abyss]

with terms and conditions

[slow fox]

:mutsuki:

[atomic abyss]

i would still recommend keeping the bulins for yk2

[barren tapir]

similar dps, better aa, more tanky, fleetwide buff. + can be used together anyway

[atomic abyss]

z52 doesnt live or die by her LBs

[storm heron]

also ply can get stronger with better guns

[atomic abyss]

rumey and yk2 do

fybre

[barren tapir]

i mean so can z52 theoretically if they make an even faster single UR dd gun

[fast steppe]

is z52 usable at 0/1lb?

[atomic abyss]

theoreticals show her DPS *exceeding * ply lol

[storm heron]

but yeah z52 is like uhh how cheap is that, single 76 and 2 toolboxes?

[whole crypt]

sigh let me go dig CN up

[barren tapir]

but also the thing being ply needs her UR gun and it needs +13 to 'max' whereas z52 uses blue or gold gun max at +7/10

[raven canyon]

should i max out roon using my current blueprint?

[barren tapir]

since the gain from +13 single 113 is basically 0

[atomic abyss]

no

[boreal wagon]

in fairness aoa is tied to limit breaks but yeah it doesnt really change prio

[raven canyon]

oah

[barren tapir]

yeah it makes a lot of sense imo

[knotty sleet]

guys should i stop tryhard summon Duisburg? she will have rerun right?
she is harder to get than the UR itself

[storm heron]

didn't they lower z52's estimate dps just today (sc: Jimmy)

[atomic abyss]

roon can be upgraded with coins
so use coins to exchange for her BP

i mean, similar to ply is a HUGE achievement to begin with

[barren tapir]

how many cubes do you have, and how badly do you want her, and do you have yorktown 2 already?

but yes she will rerun around jan 2027

[raven canyon]

alright thank yo, i just have like 150 general blueprints and i dont know who to use them on

[odd flame]

Thank you but what are some ships I could use for a second one in the future with what I have

[atomic abyss]

at bare minimum? yeah that's it

[knotty sleet]

140 cube left,, the problem is coin too takes a lot

[barren tapir]

unless those are somehow pr1 generals, save for higher season ships

[atomic abyss]

stuff like nelson, musashi, rumey, portland, ark, saratoga

[barren tapir]

well...i would suggest stop unless she is your waifu because you're gonna struggle to get yk2 already

[fast steppe]

how usable is z52 at 1LB?

[knotty sleet]

i am okay with that as long she will have rerun

[odd flame]

Thanks again

[barren tapir]

ye she will, only collab may never rerun.

so stop now and save your cubes

[knotty sleet]

i see, yes i dont have yk2

[late flame]

anything you use wants MLB (max limit break)

[elfin hollow]

I have Uni on core, with langley at bottom and repulse at top

Z23 on bottom, Hipper at core and Thatcher at top.

any changes I need to do?

[storm heron]

get to mlb for max fp stat

[atomic abyss]

usable as a buffer
as other things uh, not AS well

[azure salmon]

Do you have coins in your mail?

[fast steppe]

yes i know but ender mentioned she doesn't live or die by her LBs so i was wondering

[raven canyon]

ye they're all for 1 through 4 to 1 through 6-7

[barren tapir]

well her support/utility exists from her skill i guess

[fast steppe]

ig i'll just use what i have for now

[storm heron]

Idk, how many fp she has at 1lb, how many fp she has at mlb, and then divide it to see the diff

[azure salmon]

Cause I went full stupid last UR event and bought coins 10 minutes before event ended for pulls and then remembered I had 400k coins in mail

[knotty sleet]

only 21k coins in total lol

[azure salmon]

I still can't believe I bought coins with gems LOL

[knotty sleet]

i will just summon 3x a day

[atomic abyss]

yeah the diff is
rumey and yk2 have less than a third of their DPS at 0lb

[boreal wagon]

she doesnt live or die by them bc her utility as a buffer is tied to skills so she will always at the bare minimum be usable as that

[fast steppe]

ic

[atomic abyss]

for z52 it's probably like, 70% at most assuming max skills?

[narrow ridge]

How do I know which of my ships are good or bad

[barren tapir]

general bps for pr1-4 can be either used on anchorage or avp, or whoever you want i guess (maybe save them until you dev30 a ship, then you can turn them into protocore which is best)

pr5-7 you want to use it on the latest season that's included