gameplay-help

[torn latch]

^^^

Oils is only the limit for tryhard points farmer

[barren tapir]

i know i mathed it out using regular gold rates at some point but idk the exact

[bold cove]

Nah, i can prepair 3 or 4 fleet to do it, but stocking 50k oil before hand, thats something else

[hollow gust]

Just have multiple fleets

[barren tapir]

have multiple 1:1s to be optimal

[viscid swift]

well the key is to 1-1 farm D3 and not use full fleets

[barren tapir]

what else can i do to prepare

[stark quiver]

get good fleets
get good crossfleets
get large oil stash
thats all

[bold cove]

How much oil we have per day? May i ask

[viscid swift]

well making sure your 1-1 fleets work

[zinc prairie]

me with 1-3 fleet

[torn latch]

Wait what hvar? We can farm hvar from event map?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1063717638229987348.webp?size=48

[viscid swift]

test them in one of the archives

[bold cove]

Yeah. Jan 9, yk2 rerun

[torn latch]

Oh shit

[sharp socket]

im coping for 3 hvars in 60k oil

[barren tapir]

im planning on doing uni poikai, sara nana, indep momo

gonna get a 2nd wyvern in time for yk2 event also which shud help (fuck gear swapping lol)

[torn latch]

Wait I don't remember Yorktown 2 event map have hvar drop, or maybe my memories is shit

[soft raft]

Most notably the drop rate for HVAR was higher than usual

[bold cove]

A week rerun, to farm, 50k oil estimate for 1 hvar

[sharp socket]

50k seems a little high

[barren tapir]

uhh the only archive ive full completed is divergent chessboard which is low level compared to modern events

[stark quiver]

50k is way too high

[viscid swift]

not sure how consistent none healer is gonna work out especially without much cross fleets

[sharp socket]

i thought it was 20-25k

[soft raft]

the latter

[bold cove]

Yeah might be cheaper if youre lucky

[barren tapir]

ok lemme run the math again real quick assuming bug rate is fixed and full fleet

[quartz jungle]

Should be able to get 4 HVAR with 100 k oil (actually have almost 200k), already have 1

[zinc prairie]

does fletcher fleet still works fine?

[barren tapir]

avg gold droprate is about 0.14 per run, you need 25 for 1 hvar, so that's ~180 runs per hvar, or 48060 oil full cost

[soft raft]

sounds like a long dead meme comp

[zinc prairie]

aight : D

[forest palm]

fletcher fleet only worked in CN, it never worked otherwise

[barren tapir]

if you use 1:1 like uni ddg it should cost uhh 20 oil? per battle. do you use uni ddg for boss too or only mob?

[jaunty glade]

Any decisions yet between both new URs? I can only fully LB one this month

[bold cove]

Ddg is UR or something?

[zinc prairie]

il use uni, laffeyII then

[stark quiver]

wait

[barren tapir]

assuming 1 fleet uni ddg it's 150 per run, or 27000 oil per hvar

[torn latch]

It is a fighter right? The one from PR is still better than this one?

[viscid swift]

I use it for the boss too

[quartz jungle]

DDG is elite oil cost

[stark quiver]

hvar better for light

[sharp socket]

can 1:1 without uni?

[barren tapir]

assuming it's uni ddg + full fleet boss for a newer player, that's 177 per run or 31860 per hvar

[stark quiver]

sketcky

[torn latch]

Perseus exist

[viscid swift]

you can try

[boreal apex]

How to do 1:1?

[frank pulsar]

is that with bugged drop rate or nah? cuz hvar drop rate is bugged
theres no way i spent that much oil cuz i have 5 hvar

[barren tapir]

id just bank on it taking around 30k+ oil per hvar and plan accordingly

[bold cove]

4k different, nearly a whole day oil

[barren tapir]

fixed droprate

based off cn data collection pool, each siren = 1.5%, boss = 6% with 50% for 2 drop

[worldly pewter]

i might add to this enough helps to deplete the oil stocks

[barren tapir]

total average is about 0.14 (it wasnt exactly 6, it was 6.something)

[torn latch]

I still have around 55k oils, dunno if I should use that to farm hvar on next event or use it to farm new Orleans instead

[stark quiver]

preparing for the grind
not during

[storm heron]

D3 better than B3 for hvar prints?

[barren tapir]

b3 doesnt drop

[bold cove]

B3 doesnt drop

[viscid swift]

HVARs, you can farm New Orleans at any point

[stark quiver]

farm good plane?
farm ship thats not gonna be used?

[torn latch]

It is hard mode map that drop gold blueprint

[storm heron]

well that's very bad, this means I need another unicorn raised

[barren tapir]

well, stocking up helps in advance...helps

not that u can rlly do much about that, its just opsi voucher shop and weekly pack

[stark quiver]

oh helps
the thing

[barren tapir]

yea xd

[storm heron]

I have unicorn volga perseus and 3 ddgs

[stark quiver]

idk i have like 300 prolly not enough

[bold cove]

You cant put oil in mail right?

[worldly pewter]

i m going to use uni zui and ryuu but missing another healer

[storm heron]

pretty sure this will be enough combined with 6 morale dorm slots

[barren tapir]

or a tank vg

i know that nana can do it on her own, the main issue for me is 3rd fleet. im coping that momo is enough bc neptune lacks sufficient consistent output to solo vg imo

[stark quiver]

also wichita meta any good for taihou meta?

[torn latch]

make petition so ships which only available on story map drop can be purchased with medals

[zinc prairie]

surely 99k oil in storage will suffice

[barren tapir]

im wondering who else i could use cos idk...do you guys thinnk 3 fleet enough?

i can only fit 3 fleets in my dorm so that's probably the best i can do anyway...

[viscid swift]

in my experience B1/B3 farming probably not

[storm heron]

I don't think so, you have to get low in the first place

[barren tapir]

would momo or neptune be better as solo vg without healer?

[viscid swift]

if you're using HELPs

[wind hazel]

i hope jan9 comes faster so that this convo isn't repeated for the 1936129th time

[stark quiver]

how many low cost fleets do you even have

[viscid swift]

right now 2

[storm heron]

also wichita meta for some reason just won't die

[torn latch]

Btw what is best fleet against taihou META?

[stark quiver]

u use helps for normal events?

[barren tapir]

oh momo is cheaper than neptune, so ill have neptune only as last resort ig

[viscid swift]

yes, tedious af even with them

[torn latch]

Does someone able to one shot taihou meta level 15 auto?

[stark quiver]

i use emulator so

[hollow gust]

there are fleets that consistently do it

[viscid swift]

yes, just not that consistently at the moment

[storm heron]

time to raise another set of ranger and mahans?

[torn latch]

What is the fleet

[barren tapir]

is there any specific gear in gearlab i should prioritize in advance for these 1:1s to make my life easier? i have a flapjack and wyvern earmarked already for indep

[hollow gust]

im 9/10

[stark quiver]

im at 2/10

[viscid swift]

for the last time, I can't afford oaths

[hollow gust]

well you have max tech and oathed backline?

[zinc prairie]

wyverns

[worldly pewter]

crossfleets is where ur damage lies
but the generic gear also helps

[barren tapir]

fp aa gun worth?

[viscid swift]

would be a waste

[storm heron]

but you did them

[barren tapir]

i have like no good crossfleets im just gonna be full fleeting boss instead

[viscid swift]

eventually

[hollow gust]

use your tech ships, its not that hard

[wind hazel]

fp aa gun won't change your farming in any meaningful way

[barren tapir]

i mean in making the 1:1 easier, mainly for momo and poi

[torn latch]

My oathed URs backline are Yorktown fdg bis zwei2 only kekw, for fleet tech well, not far from maxed stat I guess?

[wind hazel]

you won't see the difference really

[hollow gust]

then you cant copy

[worldly pewter]

u can't low cost d3 without crossfleets
test it but i think u will have time issues

[hollow gust]

just try jimmys fleet

[torn latch]

I mean I'm already happy enough if I can get close to 100k damage in one attack attempt

[barren tapir]

i did 1:1 healerless this event's d3

[viscid swift]

Jimmy's fleet won't work without oaths

[hollow gust]

ofc it wont oneshot, its fine for 75 points

[stark quiver]

auto?

[barren tapir]

manually picking the hardest possible fleets, auto battle

[storm heron]

is 5 oil B3 worse than 1:1 D3?

where is the low oil thread for this event

[stark quiver]

just do 4 oil b3
100% consistency for me

[barren tapir]

but for this event it isnt worth doing

[worldly pewter]

i specifically specified time issues
being able to do it but not in a reasonable amount of time won't be better than running a full fleet with a reasonable amount of time

[hollow gust]

if you guys dont have consistent kills then you just Helena it

[barren tapir]

i was just curious if i could, and i did. so

[barren tapir]

i have plenty of time, i am more concerned with oil and morale

[sweet delta]

it doesn't work even with oaths

[storm heron]

I see, setup like mori's? but without cassin?

[stark quiver]

ranger mahan shrimple

[viscid swift]

the fight is interesting, without the planes this would be relatively consistent to one shot

however with planes you need to worry about concealment which just throws everything off balance

[barren tapir]

oh right i forgot, i have aquila now. would she be a decent option for 1:1

[wind hazel]

works with only 1 vanguard?

[stark quiver]

bro has aquila

[wind hazel]

1 oil saved

[viscid swift]

haven't had a 4 oil run fail yet on B3

[stark quiver]

100% consistency for me
except the time i used fleet 4 instead of 5

[zinc prairie]

shuffle your ships so your main farm fleet can rest well on floor 2. so you can farm endlessly : D

[storm heron]

:smolmagistare:

[wind hazel]

bruh i legit went and get z20 z21 from DC 😭 wtf am i doing

[viscid swift]

skill issue

[barren tapir]

true UR of this event

[stark quiver]

i have a few sets of rangers and cassins

[barren tapir]

so actually ig i would replace sara then? and do smth like uni poi, aquila momo, indep nana?

[hallow mountain]

Does doing 2x Reward get more event tokens

[wind hazel]

yeah that means i can get another 2 ranger now, and use 4 low oil cost

[barren tapir]

aquila kinda expensive, but it should ensure consistency if momo has issues

[stark quiver]

aquila good anyways

[storm heron]

aquila best mob campaign cv?

[stark quiver]

maybe

[zinc prairie]

nah its unicorn

[barren tapir]

well ofc im gonna raise her shes op and very fucking cute tyvm

but i mean for 1:1ing d3 in yk2

[stark quiver]

unicorn cvl

[viscid swift]

I used Aquila before when a CV was needed

[barren tapir]

time to speedrun her to 125 (i need a gold bulin help)

[zinc prairie]

uni carried me in the whole game

[viscid swift]

gotta grind PvP

[quartz jungle]

Didn't he just do 12/13 one shots?

[barren tapir]

gotta make more flaps then

[storm heron]

yea stop badmouthing jimmy

[barren tapir]

JIMMY BAD i mean what

[wind hazel]

you can just swap gear

[viscid swift]

he didn't actually finish the runs, he's assuming the last airstrike kills which from my experience given the HP left is a bit doubtful

[stark quiver]

i think its time to get my 4th wyvern

[atomic abyss]

What's this regarding?
Maihou?

[viscid swift]

yep

[barren tapir]

on one hand, absolutely correct, on the other hand, with time constrained event and probably less available brain cells due to overplaying azur lane more than usual, i would be happier and comfier grinding with each fleet having their own gear

[stark quiver]

i dont have time to swap gear in class

[wind hazel]

[barren tapir]

sadly i cant get 3 wyverns in time

[atomic abyss]

Maihou anti conceal is lovely

[viscid swift]

anyway, I experimented quite a bit today and came to the conclusion Implac with Pancake, without oaths at least doesn't do enough damage to come close to consistently one shot

[quartz jungle]

Airstrike does about 25% damage no?

[storm heron]

maihou more difficult than magato?

[quartz jungle]

And he's ending with 10sec left

[viscid swift]

you would think, on my runs I have seen my CVs consistently fail to do 25 bars on the last strike even concealed

[barren tapir]

actually i could get within 2 prints of 3 wyverns...so with some luck...

[stark quiver]

nagatoM ez one shot
taiho not too ez one shot

[hallow mountain]

If I clear all the enemies do I get more tokens for farming 2x?

[wind hazel]

both hard for me :> f2p life

[atomic abyss]

No, it's always dependent on boss clear

[hallow mountain]

Damn

[obsidian ivy]

I keep getting revealed at the last air strike and bungle a lot of one shots

[stark quiver]

mori youre f2p?
istg you were a skin collector

[hallow mountain]

Wdym dependent

[atomic abyss]

You only get the tokens for your boss clear

[viscid swift]

I think the issue is the summons are deceptively boosting the damage of the other airstrikes given the impression they're doing more than they actually are
and the 3rd strike there shouldn't be any summons left

[wind hazel]

i am as f2p as cheeky

[atomic abyss]

So there's 0 point in clearing everything outside the 3* objective

[hallow mountain]

So like, how fast you beat the boss?

[quartz jungle]

Oh in any case his damage before airstrike hits is about 21-22 bars left

[hallow mountain]

Or just killing the boss in general

[atomic abyss]

No, just do the bare minimum no. Of enemies to get to the boss and then defeat it

No speed of clear

[viscid swift]

Z52 should hopefully take care of the concealment issue, hopefully she can solve that extra damage difference as well

[hallow mountain]

Aight

[stark quiver]

How does this backline look for taihouM

[sweet delta]

so...not f2p

[viscid swift]

table on Musashi

[stark quiver]

anything else?

[viscid swift]

nothing you could reasonably do no

[stark quiver]

and i have sashi flag

[slow fox]

What can he unreasonably do?

[viscid swift]

Plymouth gun on everyone, all +13 auxes and 2nd Table

[stark quiver]

oh bruh sashi doesnt even have the +13 shell

[hallow mountain]

How to get more UR vouchers?

[viscid swift]

check the pins

[hallow mountain]

Other than clearing event stages?

[stark quiver]

oh yea and i have a +13 izumo gun if thats any better

[viscid swift]

no it would not be

[soft raft]

Once again, go check the pins

[hallow mountain]

So at best, I should exchange my tokens for vouchers?

[stark quiver]

low tech gaming sucks

[hallow mountain]

Sorry been a while since I last played this game

[soft raft]

All of this exists as well

[hallow mountain]

Yeah but my ships suck

[viscid swift]

you literally get 105 for free basically from the mini game

[hallow mountain]

I just need 20 to get a copy of 52 at least

[torn latch]

Most of new player literally can bring easily accessible ships that able to clear at least until w12 easily

[viscid swift]

and that is actually quite a decent fleet

[hallow mountain]

[viscid swift]

if it's not doing well you've probably geared it very poorly

[hallow mountain]

Damn maybe skill issue, literally.
I haven't upgraded their skills

[viscid swift]

why.....

[hallow mountain]

I have 2 slots

[torn latch]

Me too

[hallow mountain]

Man

[torn latch]

Just don't raise level skill of random ships you won't use

[viscid swift]

so do I, and I get skills leveled up just fine

[stark quiver]

is it a good idea to sync implac with bbs

and vanguard torps

[viscid swift]

you can try, kind of a headache though

[torn latch]

If you know how, please tell me

[hallow mountain]

So far I'm just raising the skills of those I'm using

[obsidian ivy]

Am I getting baited for grinding CA/CL Eva tech, is it really that big of a difference?

[zinc prairie]

me with 3 slots

[wind hazel]

oh yeah, did you find any timing for implacable stop and unzen torpedo cheeky

[viscid swift]

oh and I did try the syncing Implac with Unzen, vanguard moves too much for it to be consistent

[wind hazel]

ok nvm 😭 answered immediately

[stark quiver]

bro read your mind

[wind hazel]

the f2p hivemind

[viscid swift]

not really but a bonus is a bonus

[torn latch]

^

[viscid swift]

of course I didn't go through every iteration

Riceist may cook something as he usually does

[obsidian ivy]

[viscid swift]

but yeah, Mogador and Kazgaumo is just too fast

there is actually also another issue with my comp I realized

Mogador has to survive now with a slow comp

[fast steppe]

does anything in opsi carry over to next month I forgot

[viscid swift]

nothing besides vouchers

[fast steppe]

aight

[stark quiver]

whats the absolute fastest figherr and tb

proll wont work

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

Gold Corsair, and Saiun maybe

[viscid swift]

Skyrocket

[atomic abyss]

Saiun for sure
Gold corsair realistically

Skyrocket is the actual fastest

[viscid swift]

I think bearcat may also be faster

[forest palm]

ew...

[viscid swift]

I know I know

[hollow gust]

Why…..

[stark quiver]

wait i think that actually works

[viscid swift]

Actually better idea

Just run Eldridge in the vanguard

[tropic vector]

anywhere i can get some team building help?

[viscid swift]

This channel

[stark quiver]

i need the teatorps to be faster

[viscid swift]

there's always the American Tea Torps

[stark quiver]

which one is that
the black one?

[soft raft]

post your dock in a thread

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

perfect

i think this works for the first 2 launches*

[hollow gust]

What is this 🤢

[viscid swift]

I do not

[stark quiver]

for the first 2 launches*

[viscid swift]

actually no

[stark quiver]

wait would the bb firing animation mess with the timing

[quartz jungle]

Musashi and Bzwei too slow no?

[viscid swift]

because what you would want is Zwei to suck everything and then Implac to stop everything after Zwei has sucked them into place

[hollow gust]

That site accounts for it

[stark quiver]

zwei afct?

[quartz jungle]

Yeah

[viscid swift]

hold up let me try another cook

[stark quiver]

no thats too fast

does bis2s black hole only last for 1.5s

theoretically this should work then

[hollow gust]

Zwei is 2 seconds ahead

[stark quiver]

^going by this

[hollow gust]

You know if the suck stops they spread out near instantly ?

Gotta be tighter then 2 and a half seconds

[fast steppe]

is there a meowfficer guide somewhere

[stark quiver]

isnt the suck 3s
or did i think wrong

[fast steppe]

are there any sr ones whose skill works on command cat other than takemaru

[quartz jungle]

How fast does Implacable's slow ramp up?

[stark quiver]

2s until full stop 2s full stop 2s to slowly get out of stop

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[keen sable]

antenna

[ocean pilot]

duisburg is better than Ägir or other way around?

[atomic abyss]

Dusiburg isn't even fit to lace Agir's boots
She's so so so so so much worse and don't even fill the same role

Agir is like, the 2nd best tank in the game

Duisburg seems to be an ok-good DPS CL at best

[ocean pilot]

woah, ok thanks

[ocean pilot]

and who's the best tank?

[atomic abyss]

Napoli

[forest palm]

what if Anchor but better

[sleek spade]

Napoli took the spot? Shet

[ocean pilot]

last question, do i need to lv 25 to be best tank?

i mean for research

[sleek spade]

Was gonna put Napoli on the backburner but I guess Im getting her now

[atomic abyss]

Dev 30 lol

[ocean pilot]

so maxxxing is da way. danke

[atomic abyss]

D25 Napoli is about as tanky as D30 Agir

Do bear in mind that both are heavy armour

So there are some areas where anchorage will outperform them both

[sleek spade]

Does Napoli have good dmg tho?

[atomic abyss]

Agir level

[sleek spade]

Awww

Im looking for big dmg vanguard

[ocean pilot]

well every game is like rock paper scissors. no one is overpower

[sleek spade]

Is z52 big dmg?

[atomic abyss]

You can't expect the tankiest ship in the game to also be a DPS

[hollow gust]

Basically Plymouth damage , although low tech skk won't bring that performance

[sleek spade]

Ye I know but I was hoping not agir lv lol

[atomic abyss]

Use an actual DPS for DPS

[coarse heron]

which tech do you need for Z52?

[sweet delta]

aegir level is almost drake level

[sleek spade]

My tech are pretty decent so should be fine

[atomic abyss]

DD FP

[coarse heron]

time to level more FP DDs I guess?

[tropic vector]

Fleet building

[sleek spade]

Is this considered good tech?

[viscid swift]

no

[barren tapir]

it's not bad but you have a lot more to improve

[sleek spade]

Awww

[coarse heron]

max DD FP tech is apparently sixty two

[barren tapir]

dd fp maxes at like 60+

[eternal moth]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ You can use this to see what ships you still need for different stats

[sleek spade]

I stopped playing for like 3 years or so. Just came back last year

[coarse heron]

the hard part is filling it out for the first time, it takes so long

[barren tapir]

you have a good start just keep on keeping on itll get there in time

[eternal moth]

Yeah

[sleek spade]

How to get more dd tech? Level, mlb more DDs?

[coarse heron]

you get stat bonuses from collection and from 120ing

[stark quiver]

more dds to lvl 120

[coarse heron]

which means you need a LOT of Cog Chips

[sleek spade]

It’s ok I got 50k

[barren tapir]

collect and 120 respectively

[stark quiver]

drains hella fast

[wind hazel]

50k

[sleek spade]

Nice sankyuu

[viscid swift]

Lots of grinding

[barren tapir]

oh the img got cut wait

[forest palm]

I still have over 100k Cog Chips

[forest palm]

white screen jump scare

[wind hazel]

50k is enough for 37 non SSR DD

[barren tapir]

as well as +9 fp from kms faction tech lvl5+

[forest palm]

the tech tracking site tells you

[coarse heron]

I got 23.5k and for the first time I'm starting to get worried about how many Cog Chips I have

[stark quiver]

is 8776 faction tech omega low

[sleek spade]

Nvm I got more than I thought. How many girls can I speed lv with this much?

[barren tapir]

oh i gained 5k from somewhere

[sleek spade]

And I should prioritize higher rarity correct?

[sharp socket]

a good amount

[barren tapir]

guess i can start awakening ships again

[wind hazel]

34 SSR or 57 nonSSR

[torn latch]

You don't speed level with that though? That used to break level cap

[sleek spade]

Nice! Thank you

[wind hazel]

and lots of coins

[zinc prairie]

and bulins

[sleek spade]

Yea I know

[forest palm]

[sleek spade]

Yea that’s gonna b kinda annoying too

[stark quiver]

opinions?

[forest palm]

I wouldn't call that low

[viscid swift]

and it's not just DD tech you want to work on

may as well work on tech for BBs, CVs, CLs, and CAs while you're at it

[barren tapir]

get all the tech

[forest palm]

sorry your a cog chip peasant aurora

[stark quiver]

i need to grind more

[sharp socket]

im not sure if i have 9.9k or 6.9k

[sleek spade]

Do collab ships count for fleet tech or no

[barren tapir]

i have 5k more than when i last looked, so im actually happy xd

[sleek spade]

Awww

[storm heron]

30k

[hallow mountain]

What does the x3 mean?

[barren tapir]

3x pts first clear of the day

[hallow mountain]

Do I get more tokens with this?

[wind hazel]

you get x3 bonus event point

[stark quiver]

is 12-1 grinding literally just 12 ships that want levels

[hallow mountain]

Ah ok thanks

[storm heron]

I mean what else though?

[forest palm]

my boomer ass sits on 12-4

[stark quiver]

im js too lazy then

[sleek spade]

How many weeks till york ii? Do I really need york ii? How good is york ii?

[viscid swift]

a little over 2 weeks

[stark quiver]

jan 9 no yes

[barren tapir]

2.5 weeks, idk, good

[sharp socket]

jan9, yes if you don't have her, yes

[viscid swift]

Chips do pile back up when you run out of main fleets to farm

[wind hazel]

2/3 gone soon

[barren tapir]

do they pile up if you level inefficiently

[sleek spade]

Should I roll dupe for Rumey? I got 800 cubes exactly. Im very behind on bulins

[barren tapir]

no

[sharp socket]

no

[wind hazel]

unless you're near to another pity

[stark quiver]

i have 3/4 of ships in game to level and my cogs are also stocking up, we are not the same

[forest palm]

I also tech farm during events

[sleek spade]

Im 107 away from the first pity

[barren tapir]

near a pity make your judgment call otherwise no yea

[wind hazel]

nah

[barren tapir]

wouldnt even begin to consider it until like 30 away at worst

or if you want an event ship you havent gotten yet

[sleek spade]

Ok no it shall be. But it will take me 5 years until I can catch up in Ur bulin.

[forest palm]

I think 2 Fritz may be useful, but I'm not about to recommend that shit lol

[sleek spade]

Nah Im using 2nd fritz for mlb

[barren tapir]

1 support 1 in actual fleet ch15

cursed but i can see it

[forest palm]

I have 2 AQL brother in christ when you are resource rich you do stupid shit for fun

[stark quiver]

aql? aquila?

[barren tapir]

ok but aquila is really cute so i can understand THAT

[light trail]

what do the offering buffs do (career/academic/romantic)

[sleek spade]

I need 1 more bulin to mlb fritz. Else I have to wait till jan. And that’s not considering I don’t have any more to 2nd lb 52 or even 1 lb for yokii when she reruns

[stark quiver]

i have a oathed 125 ranger

[frank pulsar]

yall got fritz? wheres mine

[barren tapir]

romantic boosts secretary affection gain speed

ty for reminding me this thing exists i keep forgetting about it

[sleek spade]

Go back to the cube grind to get yours

[forest palm]

I pulled 3 Fritz

[light trail]

what's academic do? im assuming career does something about commander points no?

[obsidian ivy]

Do you guys just hyperfocus DD FP tech grind or mix it up with cl ca too, I assume the latter

[plain saffron]

In my dock

[stark quiver]

i mix tech grind

[frank pulsar]

just mix

[barren tapir]

at 113/200

[zinc prairie]

me who retired aql for no reason

[sharp socket]

what?

[barren tapir]

the EMA thingies

i dont know the others

[viscid swift]

I prioritized DD FP early on then switched cruiser tech
DD TRP, HIT and reload are lower on the priority list for me

[light trail]

events>new years invitation>prayer (on right)

[stark quiver]

js click on the red icon under top right of home screen

[sharp socket]

that exists huh

[barren tapir]

its hidden in several menus no wonder i keep forgetting to do it

[light trail]

oh sick, it reduces the tactical lesson time tyty

[obsidian ivy]

How long did it take for you to finish that DD FP tech grind you have?

[viscid swift]

I know one of them is a 3% boost to XP gain on sorties

[barren tapir]

you monster

[viscid swift]

don't remember, at least a few months though

[stark quiver]

im so lost in the tech grind, way too many ships

[storm heron]

is there no way to get z9

[obsidian ivy]

Figured

[zinc prairie]

now im having stroke every time i remember what i did

[stark quiver]

milestone exists

[barren tapir]

shes point milestone ship

[forest palm]

the new Zs are the last of the FP DD that I need to work on for FP DD Tech

[soft raft]

Just get 10k event points

[storm heron]

I'm like 40ish /200 already but no elites

[barren tapir]

she isnt in build you silly doggo

[soft raft]

Z9 isn't even in the Gacha pool

[barren tapir]

(thank fuck, honestly)

[sleek spade]

I need fritz dupe to mlb my fritz so I can move on to mlb 52 and yorkii when the rerun hits. Is it a good idea to try roll the dupe?

[soft raft]

No

[storm heron]

I mean z11

[forest palm]

working on vanguard tech honestly isn't that bad it may be slow, but with 3 slots it's easy enough to wittle away at the pile

[stark quiver]

gacha

[obsidian ivy]

Well, you gotta grind something while your main fleet is grinding

[sleek spade]

Ogey I’ll refrain from gambling

[viscid swift]

gotta do me dirty like that

[wind hazel]

the good ol edit

[soft raft]

did yall bother with going faction by faction for fleet tech grind or did you just not really bother

[forest palm]

wherever the dart lands for me

[viscid swift]

nah, I just split it up into like DD FP, BB HIT, etc

[stark quiver]

i hyper focus one tech

[viscid swift]

just went by personal prefference within those groups for order

[wind hazel]

i only did faction when i needed to do PR grind

[frank pulsar]

i didnt bother, i just pick based on my current coin and bulin

[sleek spade]

How do you know if maxxing a certain girl give a specific stats

[soft raft]

ngl the only reason why I'm even considering faction by faction is because I categorized all of a faction's ships togehter in my own list

[viscid swift]

the wiki, in game fleet tech page

[stark quiver]

wiki is the way

[forest palm]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Level_120_Stat_Bonuses

[viscid swift]

memorization

[sleek spade]

Nice thanks

[barren tapir]

if it syncs up with research cdc/faction tech then i do that, otherwise favorites > good tech > any

[forest palm]

I use that tech tracker the wiki is atrocious to look at

[stark quiver]

just know i didnt know those sites/wiki section existed, i went to wiki and checked each 600 ships i owned

[forest palm]

oh also use the favorite function for tech ships goes a long way

[sharp socket]

for backline i prio rld/hit/fp/avi, for frontline its fp/hit/whoever

[soft raft]

Example of what I mean

[storm heron]

best way is to go to the wiki list and just favorite

[forest palm]

gross

[wind hazel]

ca cl eva first for me

[stark quiver]

blaster

[barren tapir]

smh ignoring eva

[sharp socket]

don't have any

[barren tapir]

all done? nice

[viscid swift]

Houston

[fast steppe]

is it worth buying a firebrand to skip a step in gear lab if I've already bought the monthly shells

[obsidian ivy]

I'm grinding Eva and NGL it feels like a scam, but I'm just gonna knock it off since there's like only a few

[storm heron]

blaster doesn't have max tech

[sharp socket]

no, dont have any

[forest palm]

vanguard tech for me is Cruiser EVA → FP → Hit → RLD → TRP

[barren tapir]

get saint louis then

[viscid swift]

^

[soft raft]

if you got the core data to spare and got the other high prio stuff, then yee

[barren tapir]

haguro also if you got her in musashi

[sharp socket]

im unsure if i have houston

[barren tapir]

i dont remember the 4th one

[sharp socket]

no haguro

[barren tapir]

brennus

[forest palm]

clearly you farm ASW tech

[sharp socket]

sanrui i was raising for a different reason

[soft raft]

no lol
I've barely done much hardcore fleet tech grinding
even tho It's been like 3 years since I started playing lol

[fast steppe]

yeah I'm low on electronics so I was wondering

[sharp socket]

but good to see she has eva

[stark quiver]

blaster is casual?

[viscid swift]

Emile is in the Core Data shop

[atomic abyss]

Fleet tech pushing is only worth if you want to min max lul

[soft raft]

oh right I need to update the IB category as well
Everyone except Hipper was FP/AVI right

[viscid swift]

or when you have run out of stuff to do

[forest palm]

I don't even care to min/max I just have nothing left to do in this fucking game lmao

[atomic abyss]

Duis is +2 FP even

[obsidian ivy]

At some point you have nothing to do

[stark quiver]

it hurts to not one shot metas
and for some reason not one shot harby

[sharp socket]

i was gonna level brennus for nakhi tech so i guess ill do that

just finished chao ho too

[atomic abyss]

Remember guys
1 MLB Alsace is all you need for all your iris tech

[soft raft]

God the Zs just keep multipying

[barren tapir]

to whoever was asking about the offering buffs, career = slightly more ship damage in that

...good time to do ch14/15 if anyone hasnt yet (?)

[atomic abyss]

It'd be better to list which German DDs don't have FP

[forest palm]

so slow la

[plain saffron]

Isn't it same every year

[viscid swift]

btw Z2 is out of order

[soft raft]

💀

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

and Z43

[forest palm]

Was hoping Blaster would noticed the errors

[soft raft]

I havent updated it since like Sept lol

[sleek spade]

Oh there’s an offering going on? Where can I do that

[barren tapir]

thingy

[sweet delta]

Hidden somewhere in the dark recesses of the events tab

[sleek spade]

Nice ty

[obsidian ivy]

I have never seen that

[bold cove]

Ah yeah, this one doesnt pop up ! Red mark

[forest palm]

people often forget the event tab exists, which is hilarious cause lot of questions that come here would be answered if people just explored the menus...

[barren tapir]

it doesnt trigger ! mark which makes me forget it exists

[fast steppe]

should I be running traditional fighters or rockets vs taihou meta

[sleek spade]

I just didn’t really click that offering tab lol

[forest palm]

LA-9 if you have it otherwise standard fighters

[sleek spade]

Busy doin current event

[forest palm]

[fast steppe]

standard it is then

[sleek spade]

Btw isnt fritz really good as support cv for ch 15? She got 8 fighters

That’s great. I needed someone for that

[storm heron]

skin trial and black friday discount for some reason has more ! than the event

[forest palm]

Fritz, and 52 are basically just more world 15 power creep

[sleek spade]

What’s z52 good for? AA? We got laffii for that alr tho?

[obsidian ivy]

Like everything I guess

[storm heron]

z52 is good for everything

[sleek spade]

So 2nd laffii?

IB laffii?

[soft raft]

Heh Guam/Z52/Laffey II go brrrrrr

[storm heron]

laffii that trades of a bit of bulk for damage

[barren tapir]

not quite but shes very strong in her own right

[sleek spade]

I see

and very hot too

[barren tapir]

too big for a dd

[storm heron]

at least the size actually corresponds to the ehp

[viscid swift]

Have you seen Kersaint

[sleek spade]

No I have not

[plain saffron]

Who's that again

[stark quiver]

fools scales

[barren tapir]

vaquelin class dd

[eternal moth]

/wiki kersaint

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kersaint
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kersaint/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kersaint/Gallery

Dec 23, 2024, 4:35 AM

[barren tapir]

+1 fp

[plain saffron]

I see

[sleek spade]

+1

[viscid swift]

Dd fp tech

[forest palm]

[barren tapir]

honestly z52 is competitive with kersaint

[eternal moth]

I think she might be even bigger TBH, but that's a conversation for general, not here.

[barren tapir]

might be angle im not sure. probably carried too long on this however

[viscid swift]

There's also the OG Grenville

[forest palm]

there's been plenty of non flat chested DD...

[sleek spade]

Bro how do u even get almost 400k gold. All my gold goes to research

[plain saffron]

Play more

[soft raft]

lots of grinding

[viscid swift]

I have nothing left really to spend it on

[barren tapir]

over time you have less stuff to spend on and less stuff that urgently needs spending on

[sleek spade]

Mmm I see

[forest palm]

I had to start leveling augments to burn coin lol

[soft raft]

heck I maintained like 570k before this event cratered that to 250k

[barren tapir]

coin pinch is hardest on earlygame and newly midgame players

[viscid swift]

Also only needing to do 23 builds helps.......

[sleek spade]

But I’ve been mid game for a very long time

[forest palm]

it's honestly annoying the game tells you you're over capped, and that shit will go to waste every fight

[stark quiver]

what are the biggest coin drains for a new player

[barren tapir]

retrofits easily

[storm heron]

now I understand what kimo means by "short on coins" despite having 200k coins

[sleek spade]

My fleets are not bad either but pr research always drain all my coins…

[viscid swift]

Research and retrofits

[barren tapir]

retrofits, limitbreaking, possibly gear enhancement. pulling for URs

[soft raft]

Cries in having to hit pity

[forest palm]

when you run out of shit to spend coin on you'll understand

[barren tapir]

research too, it gets very painful in events

[stark quiver]

cuz im like losing coins to research mostly, and upgrading gear

[storm heron]

downside to face research is you have to spend a lot of coins

[soft raft]

limit breaks also can take decent amounts of gold
esp SR and UR ones

[sleek spade]

Ur print research eats all my coins like

[stark quiver]

now that im just rigmaxxing my coin stock should start to add up right

[eternal moth]

Retrofits and proper research. I've just started doing basic research during this event so I can afford to do pulls

[barren tapir]

the problem with being new is you need to do a lot of heavy coin spending things quickly to progress, now combine that with an UR event and you're in a lot of pain

[eternal moth]

Upgrading canteen and merchant is pretty expensive too

[soft raft]

SR final LB is like 10k and it's double that for URs

[barren tapir]

dont underestimate limitbreaking costs either, gold ships are some greedy mfs

[eternal moth]

I still haven't been able to afford Sara's augment either

[barren tapir]

which is why focusing on more than like, 1 (enty or hood) early is

[storm heron]

eldridge and sandy took all of my coins

[stark quiver]

?

[soft raft]

most likely yee

[viscid swift]

Should help

[storm heron]

ofc yes

[eternal moth]

It'll help

[barren tapir]

i take face when im rich and rigmax when im not. it works out

[storm heron]

it depends on whether you reset cats too

[viscid swift]

Coining also eats a lot though

[barren tapir]

oh boy...augments

[storm heron]

if you were like me and resetting 4 cats a day then no amounf of oil can compensate coins

[barren tapir]

tho once you get the very impactful ones out of the way its a minor thing

[soft raft]

there's still no one that's made every unique aug in existence yet right

[barren tapir]

im sure some nutter has

[eternal moth]

I don't know if it's possible to have enough augment material

[barren tapir]

youve got some crazy hardcore peeps playing. idk the income/expense tables though to say for sure

[soft raft]

yeah I remember that bottleneck being brought up at one point
since it's mainly locked behind weekly raids and event shops

[barren tapir]

if someone was playing since before augments got added and also never crafted any non-unique augment...maybe?

[stark quiver]

i dont coin and do cats

[barren tapir]

weekly raid, event shop, event milestone, narby

dunno if im missing any. there's occasional augment events also

[viscid swift]

Last check the math said no

[stark quiver]

problem is i pulled all coins out of mail storage
so i cant pull yk2 as much

[viscid swift]

And they release augments faster than we can earn cores

[barren tapir]

yeah its like 5 a month or so? or was it 7

[viscid swift]

Xp is also gonna be a bottlelneck at some point

[soft raft]

mostly 5

[barren tapir]

and you can craft maybe 2.5 a month or something including events

[daring light]

is agir doesnt have fs yet?

[stark quiver]

no
she does not

[viscid swift]

Not yet

[barren tapir]

well tbf that one can TECHNICALLY be farmed...just gigawhale oil go ham on oilcap maps ch12+

[soft raft]

she could get one soon
but most likely not

[daring light]

ahh okk

[barren tapir]

its the cores which have no option beyond timegates

[storm heron]

4 oil b3 has not sink yet

[stark quiver]

it shouldnt

[barren tapir]

im still at a stage where whenever i get tax returns in the mail i immediately claim them

[stark quiver]

that being said i have 60k coins rn
idk if i wnana unlock georgia

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

my lecture hall is still only lvl10 since i have other priorities

[frank pulsar]

the last time i claimed mail for oil was yorkii first run
whyre you claiming mail for

[barren tapir]

coins, not oil

oil goes into storage, coins are immediately needed

[frank pulsar]

oh coins
mines always empty too

[storm heron]

mine's 300k

[barren tapir]

in my current time playing ive only had a single window where i didnt urgently need coins for a million things, and it was like a 3 day period in a dead week a bit before this event

my coins have built up to a more-than-nothing level again now but in a day i have to pay the plymouth tax so

[undone plover]

Tbh saving some coins in storage for emergency pulls is a good idea
In case u cant play suddenly on an event
But yeah use it if u need it

[storm heron]

it's the same thing as saving oil

[undone plover]

Kind of
Saved oil still needs to be used to get coin

[storm heron]

now just need exp book main storage...

[soft raft]

You can store like up to 3k XP books tho

[rain vine]

just blow a few on ships that need levels when you get close to cap

[eternal moth]

Typically I use a few to level new ships just to get them started in comms

[stiff bison]

do we usually get anything from Azur lane for christmas or naw

[sweet delta]

new UR event

[stiff bison]

when do they usually give us wedding rings?

[sweet delta]

August

[stiff bison]

right i forgot, i kept thinking we usualy get something near the end of the year compared to anniversary

[storm heron]

wait how did jimmy did 12/13 testing without clearing the meta showdown, I thought you cannot cancel the meta run?

is there like a abusable hacking mechanism or something to cancel meta showdown?

[stark quiver]

turn off game strat

[storm heron]

so disconnect means doesn't count...

[plain saffron]

Quit game, only on own fight

If assist you lose the attempt

[stark quiver]

he thinks last strike will kill

[plain saffron]

It count as attempt, but no dmg recorded

[storm heron]

I wonder what's preventing him to not stop it when it is about to reach 0 instead...

[wind hazel]

not gamer enough

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/january

[stark quiver]

how much better is afct compared to hsfcr

[signal pollen]

Are the two UR units so good that I must build them or can I sit with bullis

[stark quiver]

wait for now

[signal pollen]

Okay. Thank you

[sweet delta]

7% or more higher damage

[stark quiver]

for high end cv, if i use amagi instead of fritz, all i do is make sure the times matches?

[wind hazel]

isn't this gun better? i remember last time this was recommended even on ply

[sweet delta]

it has better damage but has low shell range

[wind hazel]

i see

[sweet delta]

call it a sidegrade against katsu

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i see you already whipping out fritz

how many days it take to finish all skills to 10 if we have rainbow book 100% uptime

[torn latch]

What is going on with this pregnant emote trend

[wind hazel]

it's fun

[stark quiver]

mori stuff

anyways this work?

[sweet delta]

9.25 days assuming that on the last book of each skill, you cancel a T4 book after only 2 hours

[stark quiver]

hopefully id get my 30 la9 bps in the next 30~ days

[sweet delta]

we prefer tenrain't

[hallow mountain]

Which equipment should I get

[torn latch]

White & black shell for beginner player ig

[sweet delta]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

better options?

[sweet delta]

tb

[stiff bison]

how do i get more ur gear mats?

ur lab gear mats*

[stark quiver]

opsi

[eternal moth]

Keep doing opsi

[stark quiver]

best i can do

[hallow mountain]

I've been playing since launch but I have taken a break for like a year or 2

[eternal moth]

What's this setup for?

[hallow mountain]

Any planes suggestions?

[stark quiver]

jan CM

[hallow mountain]

Or CA/CL guns?
To buy in the core shop

[soft raft]

Which core shop

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, who is it?

[torn latch]

Yeah, sounds like beginner player alright

[stark quiver]

katsuragi

[eternal moth]

I don't think there are any CA or CL guns you want in the core data shop

/protocore If you mean protocore instead

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[wind hazel]

if you scroll up a bit, you'll see core shop

[eternal moth]

Most of the best gear is from gear lab or research

[versed forum]

which one of these i should lmb first?

[hollow gust]

Finish nano and then do z52

[eternal moth]

Nano hasn't been started

[storm heron]

nano > z52

[eternal moth]

But you can also get copies of nano from spark, does that change anything?

[storm heron]

nah, nano from spark is just too slow at their point because they can have easily almost the best heavy damage cv

[wind hazel]

depends on how close he is tbh

can save 1 bulin probably if he's close to pity

[strange sphinx]

musashi is also carrying that mob fleet, I can tell

[storm heron]

yeah maybe ask that first to them, how many pity you have

[versed forum]

I'm still at 200/400

[wind hazel]

yeah too far

[storm heron]

I mean tbh z52 is also broken when you don't have access to say, plymouth

[soft raft]

By the time he can get enough from Perma pity to MLB her, wouldn't be surprised if Shinano finally got powercrept proper in that timeframe

[storm heron]

but they have amagi so might as well

[keen sable]

Dupe z52 is correct play

[glacial widget]

is it possible to get hipper meta crystals after the event ends?

[eternal moth]

You'll be able to buy them if you have points left over, but that's the only way, and even then only for a week

Actually wait, that might not be correct. You might be able to buy them from the meta shop, someone able to verify yes or no?

[wind hazel]

you can buy them from meta shop indeed

[glacial widget]

ive never actually had to buy the meta from the shop before, i usually farm enough copies from the map

but ive been super unlucky so far, so im wondering if I need to or not

[wind hazel]

it's even added already this time

or maybe i was blind before this

[glacial widget]

cool, so thats not prio in the shop then

[storm heron]

wait how do you have so many metas

[still merlin]

Wats the kinda ideal setup for rumey. Is it similar to kearseage?

[storm heron]

I mean the crystals

I only 273

[eternal moth]

Probably never bought anything from the store

[wind hazel]

what's there to buy

i bought some meta materials at most lul

[storm heron]

do you get like 100k points every event or smth?

[wind hazel]

no, about 60-70k

i think i only needed to buy u556 from the meta shop, the rest i got enough from map drop+event point leftover

[stark quiver]

How to get more AP boxes, like 9 days left and I only have 500 AP in boxes
And I don’t think that’s normal

[storm heron]

looks pretty normal

[dusky vale]

is the ayanami gun fine on z52 if i dont have any of the rainbow dd guns

[coarse heron]

The British Single 113 is also good.

[stiff bison]

what comp did you guys use for hard siren

[eternal moth]

BisZwei/Alsace/Soyuz/Agir/Helena/Ply almost one-shot it for me

[stiff bison]

is there another way i can fight the siren?

[stiff bison]

like hard mode siren? the one in the center?

[eternal moth]

Each fleet can only fight once

You can fight with up to 4 fleets.

Do you have maxed out adapts?

[plain saffron]

Abyssal?

[eternal moth]

Harbiter

[stiff bison]

yeah i think so? sorry i dont know the name but its in the center and once u clear it you can access hard

[plain saffron]

There's 2 mob on each side you can kill to remove low resolve

That's arbiter

Yeah hard arbiter only once per fleet

[stiff bison]

wait theres 2 mobs on each side?

[eternal moth]

Oh, do you mean the normal version or hard? I think it's the same either way

[stiff bison]

hard

[plain saffron]

For abyssal
The one you do is arbiter

You know what, see top left

Screenshot or type the zone name. It should say

[stiff bison]

yes hard arbiter the hermit Ix

where can i change my ship formation?

[eternal moth]

Then yeah, you can only fight with each fleet once

[eternal moth]

Go to a port, click Orders, then Fleet Deployment

[stiff bison]

@eternal moth what if i dont have bisZwei?

[eternal moth]

Musashi would probably work

[stiff bison]

does the formation matter?

[stark quiver]

Is mog more tanky than Plymouth?

[stiff bison]

this good?

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, I used BisZ/Vanguard/Alsace, but that should work, or you could replace Soyuz with Vanguard instead

[stiff bison]

which would u pick a 6 star musashi or a 3 star vanguard

[eternal moth]

Is that REALLY a question?

[stiff bison]

hahahaha obviously the 3 star

[wind hazel]

can anyone click this? to gachapon

[eternal moth]

Musashi/Soyuz/Alsace sounds like your best option, assuming they're all MLB

[stiff bison]

also manual or auto

[wind hazel]

Hey commander! Your game is out of date! soon

[eternal moth]

Auto

[rapid grail]

soyuz or biszwei in the bb bossing fleet? In terms of both dmg and utility

[plain saffron]

Did they forget to add the actual stuff again

[eternal moth]

Looks like it's on the website instead.

[wind hazel]

ah, i guess it's emulator issue

phone gaming time

[stiff bison]

2 are not...

[eternal moth]

I'm using LDPlayer, and at the least it worked after logging out and back in

[plain saffron]

Inb4 also problem on phone

[eternal moth]

What dev level are Agir and Ply?

[stiff bison]

ply 29 almost 30, agir 25

[stark quiver]

Is this new?

[wind hazel]

yeah just today

[plain saffron]

12/23

[stark quiver]

I don’t think this is normal

[wind hazel]

wow 10 winners can get 1k gem, nice

[eternal moth]

That's what I see

[kind slate]

Can I do w15 without musashi? What content can I not do without her?

[eternal moth]

No single ship is required, some just make it easier

[storm heron]

omg 1k gem, that's 50 dock spaces

[kind slate]

Aight good to know. Thnx

[stark quiver]

Yes

[wind hazel]

turns out im stupid. didn't work on emulator because i don't have a web browser on my emulator

[storm heron]

[ripe peak]

guys who do i put for BB/DD for D1 for the event ? second slide is my normal fleet

don’t mind how half of them aren’t MLBed

[wind hazel]

your musashi

[ripe peak]

i usually put musashi on my boss fleet, do i replace her then?

[wind hazel]

just use fleet1 it, it will plow through everything fine

fleet 2 to stat boost for requirement

[bold stream]

Hello all. Which is better for z52.. i can +10 those equips

[ripe peak]

wair what requirement

[wind hazel]

for this

you won't fulfil it with just one fleet

[ripe peak]

ah right

should i just go with perseus musashi and uni for backlines?

[bold stream]

Hello all. 76mm or 100mm gun for z52?

[wind hazel]

remove perseus, use another dps

[spring bolt]

76

[ripe peak]

who would u recommend

sorry, i’m not too familiar with the terms in this game

[bold stream]

Thank you!

[wind hazel]

idk what other backline you have, other than those BB you showed

[ripe peak]

uhh hold on i’ll send an image

[spring bolt]

it only goes up to +7 btw, cheap but works

[wind hazel]

implacable is nice i guess

[ripe peak]

gotcha

do i need to change anything about the formation?

[wind hazel]

jervis tank but i dont think it will change anything

[rapid grail]

That's a lot of botes for D3

[unborn owl]

is there a time build for these new ships?

[wind hazel]

should be up on wiki

/wiki substellar crepuscule

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Substellar_Crepuscule

[wind hazel]

which one is correct?? wtf

[unborn owl]

is there any difference for her with other CV's?

[wary hawk]

Its 4h 40m 10s

[wind hazel]

the plot twist

[unborn owl]

not the time build. but her stats

[wind hazel]

every CV is different

her strength is on med bossing, and i guess w15 easy mode

[covert phoenix]

Any non-oath Taihou meta auto one-shot fleets out there?

[wind hazel]

with helena yes

[covert phoenix]

What’s the setup?

[wind hazel]

wait a bit if you need the gear, inside opsi

[wary hawk]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.q25qqs9frnie Pilica has this for metas

[zinc turret]

did cat skill can stack each other ? like if i have 2 cat with flame talent ?

[bleak mica]

which planes do you guys give to Rumey for most of the content?

[mellow cape]

La 9s lol

[grizzled sundial]

IB rocket plane valid if you don't have La 9 ?

[bleak mica]

oh I have all, I'm taking some advice and references.
Too many information so maybe there's something I may forget.

[storm heron]

for most of the content? then flapjack and wyvern

[wind hazel]

think you can put RPG instead of rudder on helena, havent seen her drop to anywhere near low hp

[covert phoenix]

RPG?

[covert phoenix]

Ah

Well I need to build Implacbale’s planes but without oaths I think I have the gear for them

Thanks!

[wind hazel]

ye these are all without oaths

there are other variations out there, can ctrl+F this channel and see through if you want alternatives

[pseudo saffron]

Is there a way to quit out of my current op siren to switch out ships and cats?

[wind hazel]

use fleet deployment at blue ports

[bleak mica]

there's cooldown for fleet deployment so pick carefully

[crisp tree]

About to get the 2 bulins needed for Musashi, who should I do next?

[pseudo saffron]

Yeah just wanna switch my old cats so my new ones can eat them

[sweet delta]

Ask when you have enough to max one

[pseudo saffron]

Is NY city a blue port?

[wind hazel]

yes

[pseudo saffron]

I don’t see a place to swap

[wind hazel]

inside blue port, [Order] top right, select fleet deployment

🫃🏼 where is turtle's gif

[pseudo saffron]

??

[wary hawk]

Next to the map icon

[pseudo saffron]

Oh oh oh

Yea I’m a bit 🐢

[wind hazel]

https://tenor.com/bUilT.gif

[wary hawk]

I love the arrow gif

[bleak mica]

the gif is hilarious I like it

[storm heron]

any consistent SP fleet?

cause I not only my unicorn sank, my amagi-guam who was handling the rest also sank

[wind hazel]

im using this, was sandy before eld, hasn't failed so far

[royal copper]

still oilmaxing i see

[storm heron]

any special equipments?

[wind hazel]

other than 460 on alsace no

even my eldridge is using suboptimal gear cause lazy change

[royal copper]

what's that ship on the bottom right

[spring bolt]

hmmmm, alsace can't one shot the boss?

[wind hazel]

need some crit, i used cassin and it didn't crit enough, she sunk LOL

it's either that or i totally forgot to use cats yesterday

[wind hazel]

Leander

[spring bolt]

oh... guess i got lucky in my test with +10 460... changing back to +13 460

[royal copper]

what does she do

[spring bolt]

costs fewer oil

and doesn't die too fast

[royal copper]

oh cause cassin and downes weren't working

[atomic abyss]

do bear in mind leander has no survival skill ofc

[wary hawk]

isnt smokescreen a survival skill

[atomic abyss]

her smoke area is very small, tho yes

[wind hazel]

tbh i think if you use manjuu on cassin, it buy enough time, even if it doesn't 1shot

[royal copper]

would yukikaze work (I just want to use her again)

[spring bolt]

well ideally you can just use lv125 cassin, she costs even less

[atomic abyss]

unlike ancho or evem belfast lol

[wary hawk]

That's fair

[atomic abyss]

yuki will survive, but she has no form of reliable dps

whims of auto rng with her aoa

[royal copper]

[atomic abyss]

at that point, might as well use the og phoenix

well if her job is to ONLY survive, you cld always try it

backline hard carry ofc

[spring bolt]

no ender, the point of that boss fleet is alsace can one shot the boss, so with +13 460 and double shells, lv1 cassin could get the job done
but i guess +10 460 is not consistent

[royal copper]

i think nanoda will survive just lacking in dps

[wind hazel]

vanguard dps can be 0 in this case

[leaden garden]

is there a budgte destroyer gun i can use for Z52

[wind hazel]

they won't do anything, other than being there

[oak sage]

Z52 I remember seeing ppl say here is a tank right? Like in the slot that CAs and CBs go into normally?

[wind hazel]

76mm

[jaunty vault]

single 76mm blue

[leaden garden]

is Twin 100mm Type 98 not good?

[storm heron]

Cats: 40 rld on boss, drake + every in mob
amagi/taiyuan + unicorn/eldridge sink in SP mob
amagi/guam + unicon/taiyuan sink in SP mob

[royal copper]

yo for opsi mob fleet should i have two healers

[wind hazel]

depends

[royal copper]

lets say for strongholds

[wind hazel]

i use unicorn+aquila

[torn latch]

One is enough, even for single fleet stronghold run

Unless you are trying to single fleet stronghold run with very low tactical points

[royal copper]

that is what im doing rn i cbs manually doing it

[pseudo saffron]

Is elridge usable while waiting for her retrofit item?

[torn latch]

Lol what

[atomic abyss]

frankly, if your fleet is weak and you want to clear strongholds, not recommended

[atomic abyss]

no

[torn latch]

For memeing around in exercise? Sure

[atomic abyss]

stronghold final boss turns your heals into dmg so

double healer usually isnt smart

[royal copper]

yea i switch the last one manually

[atomic abyss]

you only need 1 healer

[royal copper]

no trouble there jus for the rest i was wondering

[atomic abyss]

this isnt w14/15

[royal copper]

ok bet

i might need to change my mob fleet comp tho i think its a bit outdated

[pseudo saffron]

What about guichen

[wind hazel]

have you tried switching out amagi btw

[storm heron]

can alsace cross fleet cover that

[wind hazel]

a bit

[spring bolt]

it has some direct upgrades to it, like twin 114 or it's rainbow variant
normally it's for ships with half decent guns with good barrage

[storm heron]

now I am testing
UvH/Guam + Unicorn/taiyuan

[sharp socket]

my SP oilcost only 321, soyuz uni sandy, sushi indep ply

[storm heron]

after 3 elites with flapjack + wyvern

[sharp socket]

i think youll spend more oil testing and trying to find 1:1 SP comp than just sending it with half fleets

[storm heron]

dw I'll do this for everyone

I also think that at first but I have my resolve now

[spring bolt]

i think aa isn't important here, i used bf+wyvern
also would recommend bisha for mob, just need her skill torps

[storm heron]

[spring bolt]

mob uni + poi, cat is random cv cat + bisha
boss is alsace 460

[atomic abyss]

Frankly, you're wasting more oil trying to see what works

Than actually saving

[storm heron]

yeah I'm just like all those wasters

[wind hazel]

didnt think there would be so much difference

[royal copper]

whats a good place to test ships