gameplay-help

[soft raft]

you got more than 400 cubes so sure if you want

[sweet delta]

hot take, imho cats are useless if you dont ever intend on minmaxing

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[sweet delta]

More ply gun

[trim path]

skill level doesn't affect oil cost, right?

[opaque gate]

is this new?

[soft raft]

no

[opaque gate]

oh, it is my first, thanks

[trim path]

worth maxing cassin/down's hp up skill?

[sweet delta]

Look at your cube count so you should skip it

[opaque gate]

ok i just took it lol for the experience

[sweet delta]

And it's pr4 so it sucks even more , if you do pr4 focus then you should be leaning much more into gear research

[mellow cape]

Which node should I be farming

[opaque gate]

yeahh, i lean on rigging analysis

up until when should i do pr4?

[sweet delta]

Only if you're keeping them at 0LB level 70 for low cost fleets

[soft raft]

like map?
currently the event, ideally D3

[mellow cape]

Niceee okay, sorry I should of specified. Yeah for the event

[sweet delta]

I mean I would recommend new players to not start with 4, but how many tenrai bps do you have from this research plus protocore shop?

[opaque gate]

i have already 1 tenrai

14 bps now, and can trade 25 bps,, i also have dev 28 hakuryu and i am still finishing her

[sweet delta]

So you have the equivalent of 39/50 for the next? Keep going until 2 tenrais and then you'd be like dev 30 Aegir and haku.
Then switch from pr4 and wait for coining to finish haku fate

if haku is still useful after shinano amagi

[opaque gate]

yep, i still dojt have agir, but 28/30 hakur already

[quartz nest]

Do we know which of the skins of the second batch will be rentable?

[atomic abyss]

no

[stark quiver]

How much bps is a gold 8h face research guaranteed to drop

[atomic abyss]

4 iirc?

dont quote me on that

[viscid swift]

3

[hexed fox]

at what world does the rate of getting t2/t3 bp from hard mode increase? tired of getting 6 t1 bps everyday…

[elfin hollow]

Around 10 I think

[cobalt rapids]

we dk
just do the highest for coredata income anyway

[hexed fox]

alrighty. Im on 8 but ill press up

[atomic abyss]

from what anecdotal data we did gather

[ivory pawn]

From JP livestream: Shinano, Napoli, and Nakhimov.

[atomic abyss]

t3 drop goes up by like 1% every time

[spring bolt]

it works fine
alsace with +13 460 and double shells can nuke the boss, so your vanguard can be anything that costs 1 oil, so sp boss fleet oil cost can be lowered to 18
will test +10 460 later

[quartz nest]

Perfect thanks

[tranquil viper]

Guys

Can i get a suggestion for Taihou META build?

[eager mulch]

standard CV build

(context dependent)

[crimson grove]

what the hell

[shadow yarrow]

Does this sound right for z52

[atomic abyss]

CN prelim calcs did place her DPS above ply

[white agate]

wtf, higher eHP than i thought

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately there is no way for us to test her at max potential yet

z52 eHP is ~126% of portland with the single 113

that places her above eugen and azuma
and comparable to kron

ofc she is a DD so there is a larger level of RNG

[tranquil viper]

Maybe meta boss or just event clear usage

Something that can "unlock" her full potential

Thought I can't expect much for a Meta Ship...

[atomic abyss]

she is the worst of the meta SR CVs

so dont hope for much

[eager mulch]

do you even have her mlb??

[tranquil viper]

Ofc no

But i pretty much invest all my meta material for her

[eager mulch]

expecting something out of a non mlb ship is not the move

[tranquil viper]

Then i guess I'll wait for now

How about the new UR ship then?

[atomic abyss]

both are excellent
how excellent, we dont know for sure

expect z52 to be more used than rumey tho

[eager mulch]

can you put seaplanes in rumey slot 2?

[atomic abyss]

no

[tranquil viper]

How long usually we gonna wait for someone to reveal their full power?

[atomic abyss]

at least a week to actually max their skills

[tranquil viper]

Oath included?

[atomic abyss]

limited URs are always worth getting tho

[clever lance]

Is there anyway to make the game file size smaller 🤣

[atomic abyss]

no, most of us here are not whales and wont oath them lmao

delete off all l2d voice 3d dorm data

[clever lance]

That’s under settings?

[boreal wagon]

as far as i remember the only way to do it is to reinstall the game and when it prompts opt out of that stuff

well in dorm3d u can delete characters themselves but thats like the smalles part of dorm3d (atm)

[clever lance]

Any idea how much space that would save if I were to reinstall?

[stark quiver]

I’m running this fleet and only getting taihou down to 15 bars, any ways I can make it better?

[boreal wagon]

i don't but it should be quite a bit

[tranquil viper]

How much is your Azur lane size app now?

[clever lance]

26.63gb

[tranquil viper]

Thats big, i assumed you download most of the feature

Mine are 12,85 GB

[clever lance]

Everything was clicked yes. I just started playing again about 3 months ago

[atomic abyss]

26 is ios i assume?

[clever lance]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

you shd be able to cut down to about 16

ios app size is abt 4gb larger than android

[clever lance]

I’ll reinstall when I get home from work on better wifi then and report back

[wind hazel]

helena it

[viscid swift]

I wonder for the time being how Shimanto would do instead of Mogador hmm

[hollow gust]

You can just copy Jimmys gear

[atomic abyss]

i did suggest shimanto

[stark quiver]

i can do that too, buit im missing some +13s on planes

[viscid swift]

that is basically copying and no one here has been able to replicate the results

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

its between +13 la9 or 3 rbs

[wind hazel]

we dont have oath grey

[viscid swift]

Grey, not all of us are rich

[atomic abyss]

and jimmy also has max tech i believe

[stark quiver]

i do
but except im missing around 60% of cv tech

[wind hazel]

i thought you were one of us. i see how it is now

[spring bolt]

one of CN's top homework
requires backline + unzen oathed (at least 3 of them)
0 cv rld, 0 ca rld
oxy and aa radar are fine at +10
nano's first slot can be ryuusei

[stark quiver]

one bad decision led to another

[viscid swift]

I guess I'll try AA radars on Mogador today

[hollow gust]

Even just running rainbow AA can prevent your CBs from being spotted

[novel solstice]

... it's an actual build that unironically uses a +13 AA radar?

[crimson glacier]

at the cheap cost of 4 oxy torps

[stark quiver]

i cant +10 my 87

[hollow gust]

What else are you spending your vote on ?

[tranquil viper]

Is this the current best CV build or just for the current taihou Meta boss fight?

[stark quiver]

💀

[atomic abyss]

for taihou meta specifically

[sweet delta]

What are the maximum depot size and augment depot size?

[tranquil viper]

I see...

[spring bolt]

too many downgrades?
just wait for z52 to be combat ready or go for helena i guess

[hollow gust]

CN comps have sucked for me , only rely one was the one ricest and Jimmy uses

[spring bolt]

that Jimmy boy is not very reliable

[stark quiver]

same gear except missing 1 UR aa, and less +13

[hollow gust]

Well so far it's more reliable than whatever CN cooks . Ricest has tried too

[crimson glacier]

im just using the one in the wiki, worked well enough so far

[tacit jasper]

For Raising Affection.

giving the girls any decent gear is enough? & does Operations raise it as well?

[wind hazel]

opsi doesn't

[tacit jasper]

dang...

[eternal moth]

The only ways to raise affection is to make them main secretary up to 90, and fight with them and make sure they don't die

[bold cove]

how many Z52 we can exchange from event?

[wind hazel]

and giving gear has no affect on their affection...

[atomic abyss]

2

[bold cove]

seem like i have to exchange for 2 if i want to mlb

[tacit jasper]

got it. She's in a Fleet with 3 Healers im sure they will survive 🫡

[wind hazel]

3

[hollow gust]

MVP reduces the amount of battes needed to get a affinity point

The one time MVP control is worth it

[tacit jasper]

ok MVP & does it better if it's for a boss fleet or Mob fleet?

[hollow gust]

The more battle it wins the more battles it gains affinity

[tacit jasper]

thanks!

lastly is having 3 lvl 125 retrofitted Unicorns overkill? (for long grinding event runs)

[wind hazel]

more than 1 is already overkill

[jaunty vault]

its a waste of resources not overkill

[spring bolt]

well last meta he claimed 100% oneshot rate and people proved him wrong so i'll pass

[hollow gust]

Using unicorn retro basically means you can't mvp a vanguard

[tacit jasper]

really? all 3 are all was red on exhaustion when i use them on events though...

wonder if im doing something else wrong...

[sweet delta]

He also claim Hood is better than Nelson, tamaki, and QEMeta

[jaunty vault]

do you use dorm

[tacit jasper]

cant afford 2nd floor & it's been 7 yrs....

[stark quiver]

2 scan helena cant kill taihou

[hollow gust]

[elfin hollow]

chat is she geared properly

[wind hazel]

💀 skill issue if 2 radar cant kill

[hollow gust]

That gear

[sweet delta]

"general content"
Light boss
Medium boss

[elfin hollow]

what?

[sweet delta]

Oh right gtg share my double la9 load out in game

[elfin hollow]

that looks cursed honestly

[little plinth]

does the 5th option on fritz's skin do anything? It doesn't seem to but wanted to make sure

[tacit jasper]

how do you guys manage gear sharing?

[tawny ermine]

anyone used duisburg much yet? is she any good

[hollow gust]

Don't use it

[atomic abyss]

appears meh

[tawny ermine]

rip what about new ur?

[wind hazel]

i cant click it either

[tacit jasper]

what? us it?

[atomic abyss]

UR very good

how very good, we dont know yet

[tawny ermine]

i have only gotten duisburg so far my luck sucks ive spent like 200 cubes so far

[hollow gust]

The gear share system is only good for trolling

[tawny ermine]

im actually out of cubes to

[tacit jasper]

aw...

[sweet delta]

It's hit or miss , so far it's ok for fritz

[hollow gust]

Wait till I add my "anti heavy" comp

[spring bolt]

those loadouts are correct to some extent
using la9 and ad1 together are not optimized as hvar has more anti light dps than la9, and la9 has more anti med dps than ad1

[keen sable]

The +12 version is gut

[prime kraken]

Who has prior to mlb? Rumey or z52?

[remote quarry]

probably Z52

[hollow gust]

Backline ofc

[atomic abyss]

probably rumey cos backliner

but stay tuned
do take note yk2 rerun is coming too

[remote quarry]

We really have enough UR Backliners that delaying Rumey will not hurt. Z52 is OP

[spring bolt]

z52 for current contents, fritz will need to wait for a med armor boss

[atomic abyss]

thing is z52 works without mlb

[keen sable]

Preset is the only way so uhh presets

[reef flume]

Wait fr? How

[remote quarry]

I know. Running her now at Level 100 and 5 stars and shes carrying

[tawny ermine]

is she the new UR in the shop?

[atomic abyss]

unlike CVs who literally have less planes without mlb

8

[eager mulch]

8

[atomic abyss]

z52 is only affected by lack of preload torps and reduced stats without her LB

[tawny ermine]

so i should save up for her right now and get her? ill only be able to limit break her once tho

also is she a damage dealer or what? whats she used for?

[atomic abyss]

dmg dealer, tank, AA, support

[keen sable]

Play the game. You don't need to save for z52 because free is free

[remote quarry]

She does all the things

[tawny ermine]

ohh nice ill save for her then

[tawny ermine]

why??

[atomic abyss]

she's in the shop

[tawny ermine]

yeah im aware but why shouldnt i save up to get her when shes good??

[spring bolt]

first copy is basically free as long as you farm the event normally

[keen sable]

You could do something truly stupid and turn her free stuff to coins but why would you do that

[tawny ermine]

huh??

[atomic abyss]

the germans only use Z for their destroyers
it would be U for submarines

unique your explanation is dreadfully vague...

[tawny ermine]

i know im so confused on what his talking about

[inland shoal]

So Graf __Z__eppelin is a DD?

[tawny ermine]

he still hasnt answered me on why i shouldnt save up to get her

[inland shoal]

So for free you get 345 pts over the course of the event. Z52 costs 200 pts, no need to save anything up to get her

[atomic abyss]

the point is that you shouldnt need to spend an excessive amount of regular event currency on buying UR vouchers

[boreal wagon]

u only need to spend if u want the second copy

[boreal temple]

How does the event work now what stage do we farm

[keen sable]

What exactly are you even trying to save

[tawny ermine]

well ill have time to get what i need from the shop with the other points

[stark quiver]

usualy just farm d3

[keen sable]

D3

[atomic abyss]

same as always, SP once a day, D3 spam otherwise

[boreal temple]

[spring bolt]

for new players who can't do d3 and sp, you will still get 200+ to get the free one, just need to farm a little bit

[inland shoal]

And those points are useless for anything other than buying her

[soft raft]

(And you only really need to spend event pts on vouchers if you want to go for the dupe since it costs 300 pts)

[eternal moth]

Is it worth doing the normals once a day for the bonus?

[tawny ermine]

and? ill still be able to get the other stuff i want later

[boreal wagon]

sometimes i feel like im a ghost in this chat bc i already said that

[atomic abyss]

if you did normal, why not if you can spend like almost no oil

[dusky vale]

can someone explain why i want to clear d1 and c2 for farming stages

[eternal moth]

If you can clear D3 you don't

[atomic abyss]

there are extra rewards for 3*-ing C3 and D3

[eternal moth]

C3 is needed for the sticker.

[atomic abyss]

so you shd 3* them
the rest can be normal mode

[dusky vale]

i see thank you

[bold cove]

i know this after i clear from C1 straight to D3 😦

[inland shoal]

(True, thx for pointing that out)

[atomic abyss]

i personally dont bother with normal mode outside reruns

[forest palm]

you do have to 3 star C3, and D3 either way, works out

[inland shoal]

I would do A1, A2, C3, B1, B2, D3

[sweet delta]

I bother with normal mode on the first run so that it's already unlocked immediately for the rerun

[bold cove]

next UR yk2 is rerun event, right?

[viscid swift]

I do B3 farming

[spring bolt]

~~ender, time to join the low cost farming gang ~~

[atomic abyss]

not event rerun, i wont bother

[bold cove]

immediately after this event?

[remote quarry]

Jan 9th

[soft raft]

there's a week in between

[atomic abyss]

1 week after the event ends

[forest palm]

week downtime then back into the pit

[soft raft]

2nd Skyraider

[bold cove]

should i push through w13 for 13-4 if i need gold asap?

[viscid swift]

no

[remote quarry]

just farm 12-4. All the time

[quartz nest]

With what i have whats the best build for Hakuryuu and Amagi CV?

[eternal moth]

For what?

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you're using them

[spice phoenix]

any tips for w14?
also, is the musashi gun useful in any content? if so, which content?

[quartz nest]

Taihou meta

[soft raft]

It's heavily context dependent

Also are you Haku and Amagi CV even MLB/D30?

[sweet delta]

Why exclude equipped gear?

[quartz nest]

Both yes

[soft raft]

/w15 you can reverse engineer from here or post your dock in a thread. Musashi gun is also hyper niche

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[atomic abyss]

suicide boats and BBs galore
beware of subs on 14-3 and 14-4

musashi gun is useful only on VERY specific timing cases aka almost never

[quartz nest]

Because i keep that on the others that i can't change

[bold cove]

feel bad for that rainbow gun

[viscid swift]

Musashi gun is niche, mainly used for syncing BBs with CVs
as for W14, stagger your main fleets and make sure your mob fleet has ASW among other things

[eternal moth]

You know you can always change gear on equipped ships right?

[quartz nest]

Yeah, but i don't want to is the thing because then when i have to re use them (i use those on the daily) i have to change them back

[spice phoenix]

so asw and aa right? guess i’m using laff2 again

[thin nova]

I'd played this game for 2 years, just came back recently and I still dont know what the fork this thing does

[stark quiver]

more AA

[eternal moth]

AA defense

[thin nova]

[viscid swift]

W14 AA is not that big of a concern but Laffey 2 is quite good for W14

[eternal moth]

1 line is pure offense, 2 lines is more dodge for your front liners, cross is more AA

[hallow loom]

single 113 for z52 seems like the play?

[soft raft]

Single line: More FP but less EVA
Double line: More EVA but less FP
Circular: Mode AA with no negatives

[atomic abyss]

yes it is

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Formation

[thin nova]

oh

[cobalt rapids]

you can click on them

[glass basin]

is stephen potter or ariake better for IJN CVs
I noticed potter has better overall stats but ariake has better evasion and decent torp

[thin nova]

thank you

[sweet delta]

ignoring faction, potter is better

[eternal moth]

Ariake is REALLY squishy

[soft raft]

Ariake to help fufill Shinano's IJN requirement (Tho ideally you'd have Kazagumo fufill this role)
otherwise Potter better

[atomic abyss]

ariake if you lack IJN for shinano

the solution is get kazagumo

[inland shoal]

Kazagumo
Shinano might need 3rd IJN so Ariake, Potter has a way more useful skill

[glass basin]

I won't be asking if I have kazagumo cmon guys

[viscid swift]

you would be suprised

[quartz nest]

Like i won't change any gear i have on implacable, taihou or shinano since those are the main carriers i constantly use and have the only copy i have of some event gear

[inland shoal]

Better safe than sorry

[glass basin]

I could force using musashi vs bosses that don't move...else I might have to use Azuma for tank position so I have 3 IJN

[eternal moth]

Skyraider on Imp

[viscid swift]

well Taiho gets booted with Amagi and Hakuryu on the scene

not to mention the best gear is situationally dependent

[quartz nest]

I just go with whatever the tier list puts higher

[glass basin]

Should I use Ariake + Agir or Potter + Azuma

[tranquil rock]

are you using enty?
if you are take off that btd-1 destroyer and replace with sb2c
its better despite being purple

[atomic abyss]

potter if you already have enough IJN

[quartz nest]

Yeah i dont use her

[viscid swift]

yeah reread the tiering guidelines but best in slot is always gonna be situationally dependent, higher on ECTL just means better for general use

which really falls off the further you progress

[eternal moth]

Potter and Azuma, assuming both CBs are maxed

[glass basin]

I have to use Azuma if I use potter
Else I can use better tanks like Agir

[soft raft]

what

[atomic abyss]

azuma it is then

[soft raft]

oh wait right IJN req

[atomic abyss]

3 IJN for shinano

[glass basin]

Cause the third backline had to be AVP FS5 right

Most of the time at least

yes implacable is better

[eternal moth]

If you don't have Implacable she's your best option. Otherwise you can run Amagi/Shinano/Haku/ARA/Eldridge

Speaking of, I think I forgot to do OpSi yesterday. Oops.

[eager mulch]

bricked account, you have to start over now

[glass basin]

Ok so how do these team sound
Mob fleet: Unicorn Kaga Akagi, Brest Harbin Sandy
CV fleet: AVP Shinano Amagi, Azuma Potter Helena
BB fleet: Musashi DoY FdG(or Hood vs light), Agir, Helena Meta Portsmuth
Crossfleet: Indy Rumey Tosa (and whatever I have left that has cross fleet)

[eager mulch]

Kaga and akagi are bad

[glass basin]

Can't do Eldridge rn unfortunately cause I wasn't playing during the event

[atomic abyss]

i would rather use indy and tosa over kaga and akagi

[eternal moth]

Ok then yeah, AvP should be in your fleet then

[atomic abyss]

leave hood out of the BB fleet

[spring bolt]

you want to replace fdg with hood for light??? wut???

[atomic abyss]

fdg is just, better than all SR BB/C

[glass basin]

ok

[spring bolt]

hood dps is about 75% top gold bbs for light, and fdg is better than any top gold bb

[quartz nest]

This good?

[glass basin]

so what should I use instead for cross fleet

[atomic abyss]

double TB for hakuryuu

[glass basin]

I don't really have many cross fleet ships tbh

[atomic abyss]

none then

better to build actually good fleets then worry about cross

[glass basin]

it's not like I can bring in more than one team at a time vs harbiter...

so I need as much cross fleet I can get

[atomic abyss]

tosa cross is weak AF to begin with

[eager mulch]

cross fleet fleet is a luxury for old players who don’t need to use all their fleets
it’s better to make it a proper fleet

[viscid swift]

for what content exactly?

[atomic abyss]

better to have 4 strong fleets than 3 strong and 1 weak ass crossfleet

[glass basin]

welp guess I will just let harbiter destroy me

[tawdry topaz]

just build sub instead of worrying over crossfleet

[cobalt rapids]

ull end up with cross either way coz

[polar venture]

Did I mess up almost going to pity for the current UR?

[spring bolt]

if your dock is good enough, i would recommend uni + aquila (preload mode) + half reload cv with guam + harbin + hind for mob to save time irl

[eternal moth]

Did you get her?

[polar venture]

Yes

[eternal moth]

Then no, you're fine

[polar venture]

I feel like I messed up bc I heard she's niche

[eager mulch]

where did you hear that

[spring bolt]

i eat pity for half UR banners so you are fine

[eternal moth]

Ender probably

[polar venture]

Heard that here but forget who

[gilded musk]

guys i started playing 3 days ago, i know nothing about this game, can someone tell me what ships i should focus on leveling?

[glass basin]

I'll be honest
The reason I use kaga + akagi in mob fleet...is for faster grind and the fact I don't have preload/semi preload like aquila and luna

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

read this first

[eternal moth]

You have Unicorn, that's all the preload you need

[glass basin]

that's just one

[eternal moth]

You only need 1, the others are wasted

[viscid swift]

Pennsylvania, Unicorn, Centaur, Portland, Z23, Helena

read the newbie tips to learn where to get the missing ships

[eager mulch]

Independence retro is significantly than both akagi and kaga

[glass basin]

yeah she's already in corssfleet

[eager mulch]

what a fucking waste

[atomic abyss]

use her in your main fleets

[viscid swift]

put her in your mob fleet, she's much better than Akagi and Kaga

[gilded musk]

i'll do that thanks!

[spring bolt]

in practice fritz is probably more universal than any UR CV in early main story chapters due the cl aux gun and ghost ca gun

[viscid swift]

unironically yeah

[quartz nest]

Taihou meta

[viscid swift]

I refer you to the "for single target boss" then, heavy armor specifically

[eager mulch]

coping about 4% avi and rld when you can have one of the best staggered ships in the game in your fleet instead is really cope

[quartz nest]

Whats TB

[soft raft]

Torpedo Bombers

[eager mulch]

Torpedo bomber

[viscid swift]

torpedo bomber

[quartz nest]

Oh true lol, thought it was a specific gear

[cobalt rapids]

akaga are indeed faster for opsi mobbing if the fight ends on their waves but they lose in every other department
and u might want auto strongholds

[keen sable]

D1 if you can't do d3. C2 if you can't do d1.

[eternal moth]

D1 has been a big help to my secondary account.

[glass basin]

could i auto stronghold with akaga and Unicorn
or do I have to go unicorn indy plus something

[eternal moth]

Since I don't have the commander levels to run 9-1, having an oil-capped stage helps generate far more coins than I could get just about anywhere else

[quartz nest]

Do the mode change TBs for nakhimov work on other ships as well? If so can i use them on haku?

[hollow gust]

Indy is just better for stronghold

[viscid swift]

yes, yes

[cobalt rapids]

uni akaga can auto strongholds but they might lose to strategist
depends on ur account strength rly

[eager mulch]

high chance you fail auto strongholds using akaga + unikai

[quartz nest]

Good thanks

[glass basin]

im ok losing to strategist since that's the last battle, could always 2nd fleet it

[cobalt rapids]

then there shouldnt be issues

[spring bolt]

last event t5 was even better... my EN account hard farmed 100k pt there and got me from cmdr level 60 to 79

[quartz nest]

Good to go now?

[eternal moth]

Is there a reason you don't have levels on your gear?

[eager mulch]

is that synced?

[quartz nest]

Money, im pulling on the ur atm
And idk honestly i know nothing about timing and dont honestly wanna bother

[eager mulch]

maybe they’re going for a specific timing

[viscid swift]

no actually, put the Tenrai on Amagi's first slot
you'll want to use Implacable, Shinano, Amagi for Taiho META

[glass basin]

also how good is the free UR DD? Can I use her as poverty shima

[viscid swift]

she's better than Shimakaze

[vale spindle]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ look at a fleet tech tracker like this, then you can filter out the hull types and the stats that benefit the hull type the most
for example, dds that give FP, or carriers that give reload
then go from there

[glass basin]

oh that's even better

[spring bolt]

she is not torp ship btw, but way better than shima

[glass basin]

ok so she can't replace shima in exercise
but I imagine I can toss her in an opsi fleet

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker or a fleet tech tracker like this

[spring bolt]

shima is out of pvp meta long ago iirc...

[eternal moth]

Current meta is Eld/Laffey2/someone else, usually Jintsu Meta

[glass basin]

I don't even know
last time I checked it was musashi soyuz alsacks + anchorage shima laffey 2
or something like that

[viscid swift]

that for Taiho META, double catapults on everyone

[quartz nest]

Cool i have everything of that gear, thanks

[viscid swift]

and you should really do Operation Siren and get yourself among other things some Ju-87ds

[quartz nest]

Oh yeah, i haven't done opsi in forever (like actually continuing). Been only farming the daily 2 tries for meta ship

[cobalt rapids]

well you should
meta coords are like the last reason to farm opsi

[eager mulch]

what’s the first reason to farm opsi

[soft raft]

OpSi is the major source of gear lab materials

And a good majority of the best gear in the game is from Gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

goldplates

[eternal moth]

I'm using the meta fleet from Jimmy right now, but has anything better been found?

[glass basin]

when will hvar event get a rerun

[eternal moth]

Amagi/Nanners/Imp/Mog/Kaza/Unzen

[hollow gust]

The 9th

[glass basin]

I dun wanna cope with bf109 lmao

[hollow gust]

You can swap a Ryuusei or two for Vit-2

[viscid swift]

waiting for Z-52 at the moment

[glass basin]

Jan 9th?

FR
That's awesome

now I can destroy light boss with kearsarge and yorktown

also whoever made individual hard mode buttons
well played

[rare wyvern]

Is it wise to not spend a single coin/cube on research and other things as long as I haven't dropped Fritz ?

[jaunty vault]

no

you get two weeks to pull fritz

[rare wyvern]

Fair

[glass basin]

spending cubes on research is bad in general

[jaunty vault]

depends on your cubes stock

stopping research or picking worse research would only hinder your research progress

[glass basin]

with the number of events these days I can't imagine having a boatload of cubestock unless you are day 1 player or spend on cubes

better to do worse research than not having enough coins/cubes to make the pity

[jaunty vault]

thats why I said it depends on your cube stock
you also don't need to play since day 1 to have lots of cubes
i have seen people that have cubes stockpiled in the thousands playing for two years or more

[eager mulch]

stockpile thousands of cubes in a day playing 💳

[rare wyvern]

This is the state of affairs

[subtle cloud]

has whoever was doing those preliminary evaluations on new units stopped entirely? Feels like it’s been a few events since I last saw one

[boreal wagon]

that person is busy with rebuilding their webpage and will resume some time after that probably

[subtle cloud]

on another note, I’m on 120 pity for Fritz Rumey, is it possible to grind out the remaining 160 cubes I need before the event ends?

[subtle cloud]

alr thank you

[jaunty vault]

yeah you're skip cube research for a long time

for coins just farm more lul

[rare wyvern]

D6 seems to be a decent clearing for coin, so I was going to stay there for both coin and exp

[hollow gust]

D6

[rare wyvern]

Also, how much extra XP can a ship accumulate when it is at level 105 and like, not doing awakening ?

[warm river]

3 million

[jaunty vault]

3 mill

[rare wyvern]

Good

[jaunty vault]

d3 is a lot worse than w12 in terms of coins and exp so get your required event points to clear out stuff you need from event shop and back to w12

[rare wyvern]

One doesn't need UR vouchers from the shops if doing all the dailies/sides ?

I reckon I'll get at least one copy but

[cobalt rapids]

345 vouchers total, ull need to buy if u want the 2n copy

[rare wyvern]

Okay thanks

[agile harness]

theres any good gear build for z52? without UR gear ofc

[sweet delta]

ofc

[agile harness]

uh, a good alternative to the gold dragon? i dont have it

[sweet delta]

any 500+ HP or ASW if needed

[agile harness]

i only have the bubbly robot

[still gate]

Many parts of ui looks new. Like cruise missions and in events too (separate story and battles and difficulty selection). When all of them were updated?

[soft raft]

A few months ago
There's options to change main menu and battle UIs in the settings

[stark quiver]

like 7 months ago

[still gate]

I remember new ui but some elements I mentioned looked different in September. Btw what does "fast forward" means?

[old narwhal]

not gameplay per se but I noticed the slaimuda github tierlist hasn't been updated in a while, is it still being maintained?

[soft raft]

Fast forward is exclusively for events where enemy mobs also move so you're not stuck for as long on the map overview when every single one of them moves forward two spaces

[soft raft]

The evaluators are currently too busy with other things to update it

[still gate]

Oh so it skips those movement animations. Thanks

[soft raft]

Speeds it up, not skips

[still gate]

I see

[old narwhal]

understandable, hope they can eventually since I like using it as a quickref to know which shipgirls to focus on

[queen jackal]

throw bulins at 52 or save? i can still get milestone bulin

[jaunty vault]

is that all your URs

[stark quiver]

you can get 2nd copy of Z52

[queen jackal]

yes

[jaunty vault]

z52 is pretty good

[queen jackal]

next ur i wanted to pick up was implac so i think i can recover bulins by then

[tacit jasper]

what's ASR?

[ember forge]

any guide on how to build fritz ?

[keen sable]

Dupe

[jaunty vault]

submarine hunting range

[tacit jasper]

ahh thank you!

[soft raft]

It's a nigh useless stat lol

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[reef flume]

Double fighter if W13-15/rocket fighters for bossing, otherwise fighter+dive bomber (general content)

[ember forge]

ty i'm a beginner so i don't have lot of stuff

[queen jackal]

wat

[keen sable]

That's a lot of urs you are planning to skip them

[jaunty vault]

get z52 dupe from shop and save a bulin

[queen jackal]

oh thats what i thought

[tranquil viper]

Guys can i have some web of tier list like items or ship rank

[soft raft]

/equip 3rd link for gear guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft raft]

*2nd link not 3rd

[jaunty vault]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft raft]

And for tier lists, there's ECTL (hasn't been updated since August) and CN (Has different criteria)

[tranquil viper]

Oh so I just need to type some command

Thanks

[odd cedar]

got my 2nd fritz lets go

[soft raft]

#trophy-room or #al-general is that way

Also why are you pulling for dupes

[odd cedar]

whoops wrong channel mb

[quartz nest]

Is Duisburg good?

[blissful berry]

Im not sure if anyone has asked yet, but I can't get into the game without signing up for yostar?

[atomic abyss]

meh

[atomic abyss]

only if you havent binded it already

[blissful berry]

I have it binded to twitter, I wasn't interested in getting a yostar account

[atomic abyss]

then scroll down to log in with twitter

or https://account.yo-star.com/user

[blissful berry]

I did, it still won't let me login unless I Bind to yostar

Is it an obligation to make a yostar account to keep playing???

[atomic abyss]

no

[jaunty vault]

you get an option to turn off the reminder

[atomic abyss]

you can just log in via your twitter nd turn off the reminder for a week

i would still strongly recommend creating a yostar account

AL JP already deprecated twitter binding

[boreal wagon]

not even deprecated, they removed it lol

[stark quiver]

would it be more efficient to grind to whatever pts i need by low costing, and then using the saved oil to grind tech in 12-1
or grind tech in d3

[blissful berry]

Aight thank you

[jaunty vault]

latter probably

[blissful berry]

Making a yostar acc won't restart my account?

[jaunty vault]

no it won't

[turbid dawn]

Does any1 know how much these give? Because holy moly the exchange rate for points is atrocious when you need the points for everything else

[boreal wagon]

345 total

[stark quiver]

50

[viscid swift]

50 total from those

[boreal wagon]

oh just challenge, is 10 each for 5 missions total

i ened smh

[turbid dawn]

So you can only earn 150 max and need to buy 50 anyway? Damn

[viscid swift]

no, max you can earn for free is 345

[turbid dawn]

Where else do you earn them from or am I being blind?

[viscid swift]

emphasis on daily missions and daily SP clear, plus the mini game

[wary bobcat]

Best surface torpedo launcher that isn’t a ur?

[boreal wagon]

its a waiting game bc u get them daily

[jaunty vault]

dailies reset

[still gate]

How do you think is it possible that special docks for bulins will ever be added?

[atomic abyss]

the shop one is the best in the game

[viscid swift]

who knows to be honest

[wary bobcat]

Better than the German 533mm magnetic ones?

[jaunty vault]

meta dock got added so it has a chance

[viscid swift]

it's not a particularly desirable thing anyway

[odd cedar]

how good is yorktown 2?

[atomic abyss]

it's an upgrade to it

[atomic abyss]

extremely

[jaunty vault]

she's UR level good

[boreal wagon]

if you truly want the full breakdown on how they are distributed read the pins

[jaunty vault]

as in better than most SR CVs

[odd cedar]

so do i just pray and just multiple copies of her?

[glass basin]

yeah maybe because she's a UR

shocker lmao

[still gate]

I have 80+ of different bulins 😢 . 50 of them are purple. What can I do with them?

[stark quiver]

use them

[still gate]

I dont have gold

[viscid swift]

use them, limit break ships for tech if you haven't already

[viscid swift]

grind D3 of the event and 12-4 then

[stark quiver]

hold onto them, retire easily farmable ships

[viscid swift]

real question is though why you haven't been culling their numbers before now

[glass basin]

could retire purple bulins later on

[stark quiver]

culling?

[boreal wagon]

a synonym for reducing

[wary bobcat]

I have z52 like this (I will max limit break her after) should I change something or

[odd cedar]

🤷‍♂️ idk man i dont grind this game, i already got shinano, aquila, august, enterprise, and saratoga so like is york super good compared to them?

[warm river]

faster main gun

[pseudo saffron]

What does S.P stage mean?

[atomic abyss]

change the main gun to gold single 113
remove 2 oxys for 2 toolboxes

[pseudo saffron]

And how do I find sp stages in the event

[atomic abyss]

daily 1x clear stage, clear d3 to unlock

[still gate]

Because majority of purple ships can be obtained from stages so I didnt want to use them for that

[pseudo saffron]

Thank you

[still gate]

But now they just take almost half of available dock space

[glass basin]

they all serve different purpose, but within their purpose yorktown 2 is top notch

[boreal wagon]

farming dupe ship drops is usually ill advised and you should just use bulins precisely so they do not take up space

[wary bobcat]

I have the twin 100mm type 98 does that works too?

[boreal wagon]

it works but the 113 is better

[atomic abyss]

the 113 is far better

[wary bobcat]

That one is the gear lab one right?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[odd cedar]

do i just aim to pull 1 yorktown 2 or go for more?

[hollow gust]

Always get 1 , bulins exist in the game

[odd cedar]

getting like 1 a month is pretty slow

[warm river]

depends on the amount of bulins you need for all your URs and how many ressouces you have. Usually 1 is enough

[odd cedar]

i've only mlb new jersey so far, i have 2 ur bulin and 1 to get this month

and multiple urs so im kind of conservative on what to use my ur bulins on

[still gate]

Yorktown 2?

[warm river]

the next UR to get a rerun (in January)

[still gate]

Oh, thats cool. I missed that old event

[wicked thorn]

guys should i mlb NJ or alsace or fritz rumey

[atomic abyss]

screenshot all your URs pls

[warm river]

well if you have the resources to get multiple copies you will be done with your ships faster as you can save some Bulins, BUT from your description I doubt you have the resources to actually do that and have enough left over for all the other events that might come around. I'd say if you can stay above 500-1000 cubes and have no coin issues going for duplicates over bulins would be worth it as long as you still have a large backlog of non mlb URs (assuming you do not plan on skipping other stuff)

[odd cedar]

i started 2 months ago im pretty low on resources

i still have about 160 cubes atm

[warm river]

then always save for now after you got the first drop

[odd cedar]

i should have no problem getting a copy of yorktown

unless im extemely unlucky

[warm river]

the rerun should also give you some free pulls to make it even easier

[still gate]

Do all of event stages now require you to clear it just 1 time to get that star for escort fleet (it used to usually be about 15 making you to manually clear stage several times)?

[atomic abyss]

all new events

[still gate]

Thats so cool

[woeful pasture]

Team advice

[noble osprey]

Guys should I keep farming D3 after i got Hipper Meta and Z52?

[eternal moth]

Do you want the skins or cog chips?

[stark quiver]

there are skins, cog chips, blueprints for pr7

[noble osprey]

Not skins but I still dont really need the other materials as well im not that far into the gane

[stark quiver]

better to have them when u need them

[keen sable]

you have 4 dupes of hipper?

[keen sable]

what is it you have to do that is better?

[noble osprey]

Maybe farm 12-4 for exp and coins, idk whats better to do

[stark quiver]

the event ngl
are you at 55k pts?

[eternal basalt]

Didn't buy chips... keep farming

[weary gust]

Chips are the number one item you run out of late game.

Can never get too many, and it is never too early to start getting them.

[dawn crest]

I got the new UR on the 200th pull, with the pity dupe and 3 more UR bullins I can do the MLB, between Mogador, New Jersey, Shimakaze and Krondaste, or even the other UR launched in this event, which one is worth it? I have 4 UR bullins

[noble osprey]

Ok, do i need the Hipper crystals too?

[vague totem]

What augment is better that goes on fritz ?

[weary gust]

New UR > Mogador > the others you mentioned.

[weary gust]

Yes, they are used to max limit break her.

But you can wait to see if you drop dupes while farming the event

[little tree]

This event worth taking oil out of mail storage to grind ?

[misty tree]

According to the hoarders, no event is worth taking oil out of mail storage

[weary gust]

If an event has a unique gear you can't otherwise craft that is good, then yes. I believe this event has better quad mag drops? Or was that speculation (will check in a moment, running d3)

[silk sphinx]

tbh with max canteen you can still easily hit 55k-70k+ event currency

[noble osprey]

Im at 17.5k points and almost out of oil, idk if ill hit 55k

[silk sphinx]

and still have oil left over for w12... if you can farm efficiently of course

[still gate]

Never will

[viscid swift]

yes but it's from the shop only

[weary gust]

The ~~week ~~ event lasts for 2 more weeks.

[viscid swift]

not true, Yorktown 2 reruns on the 9th

HVAR Hellcats are worth breaking the bank for

[silk sphinx]

you can get several thousands over the course of each week

[still gate]

It was a joke

[weary gust]

Unless they add the HVARs to the gear lab immediately afterwards.

[viscid swift]

that would be very funny

[silk sphinx]

eh.... they usually take a while to add anything to the gear lab

i wouldn't count on it being soon, just take the chance to farm them

[still gate]

Is it possible to defeat boss in meta showdown?

[silk sphinx]

i do hope they keep that drop rate, that felt great

[viscid swift]

yes, not very consistently at the moment but possible

[stark quiver]

why would it be impossible lol

[weary gust]

He's probably a newer player struggling to do 100k to the level 15.

1.45m damage seems like reaching the moon at that time.

[silk sphinx]

meta one shot is basically what old timers here talk about trying to optimize around the most probably

[sweet delta]

1.6m

[stark quiver]

sushi what do you have cooked up

[still gate]

For me I run out of time

[sweet delta]

I haven't even unlocked level 15 yet

[weary gust]

One shotting METAs at level 15 is one of the hardest things to do in the game.

W15, One-shot METAs, Hard CM, Hard Arbiter are all the end game things atm.

[sweet delta]

It'll probably just be Implac Shinano amagi z52 kazagunzen

[weary gust]

And I guess these new Hard EX modes.

[viscid swift]

yeah most likely

[stark quiver]

also looking forward to jan cm guide

[viscid swift]

who was January again?

[sweet delta]

These new Hard EX modes aren't harder than old EX

[weary gust]

I haven't tried the hard ex so I wouldn't know. No reward = I don't care lol

[stark quiver]

hard ex just hits harder and easier to kill

[sweet delta]

Hard EX is just old EX

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, Katsuragi was just spam bullets to break her shields

[sweet delta]

With some skills banned

[silk sphinx]

by the way, did they say anything about the upcoming year like number of URs in the stream?

[viscid swift]

nope

[stark quiver]

does taihouM have high AA

[viscid swift]

they did announce Yorktown 2's rerun for January 9th though

[silk sphinx]

k thanks i don't ever watch streams...

[odd cedar]

is d3 worth farming or nah?

[sweet delta]

Is B3 with 3 oil fleet reasonable?

[viscid swift]

6 new URs a year may very well be the norm going forward though

[silk sphinx]

most people probably farm there

oil cap plus chance of ship drop

[viscid swift]

probably not, too much pressure on ranger from rammers

4 fleet might be quite feasible though

[sweet delta]

Even with ukrich and Guam?

[viscid swift]

just UvH wasn't enough, haven't tried Guam yet though

let me try something after this run finishes

[sweet delta]

I have done like 5 runs of 4 oil and haven't seen anything yet, just maybe could stagger crossfleets better like change Alsace to Musashi

[stark quiver]

of all the UR bbs, which 3 are best for heavy armor

[sweet delta]

Musashi depends depends

[viscid swift]

This is what I've been running

[sweet delta]

If you mean for taihou then Musashi Alsace Bisz/soyuz probably bisz

[stark quiver]

taihou meta, im thinking bis2 and vanny

if i can get it to sync, 457 > champy & sidegrades?

[foggy flame]

What a good fleet for fritz general content

[sweet delta]

general content is too easy to require good fleets

[stark quiver]

any ideas?

[foggy flame]

Let's say for world 15 then

Or 14 I'm on 14 rn

[sweet delta]

/w15 to learn what good fleets are, and then plug fritz in as a boss fleet CV or a support CV. Same fleets kinda work for w14 because it's easy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[viscid swift]

okay I tested Guam and UvH and yeah
even with both they're not able to consistently catch everything so if your ranger is too low level she just dies

[sweet delta]

I think indeed 4 oil 1:1 is the play

[silk sphinx]

this for b3?

[viscid swift]

yes

good thing I just bought the 5th dorm slot

[sweet delta]

After two large enemy fleets, 4 oil seems quite safe

[viscid swift]

yep

[silk sphinx]

cheeky you bought gems or still f2p?

[stark quiver]

cheeky finally broke the tradition

[viscid swift]

I did indeed buy 1200 gems yesterday

[hollow gust]

i have to grind affinity , no low oil for me

[eager mulch]

cheeky lost his f2p card???

[silk sphinx]

absolutely incredible

[stark quiver]

impossible

[silk sphinx]

anyways good for you, took you like what four years? heh

[viscid swift]

just over 4 years yeah

[sweet delta]

First paycheck went straight to the right place

[viscid swift]

Oh yeah here's the evidence.

[vale spindle]

im still f2p guys dont worry

[boreal wagon]

now you finally have saratoga

[vale spindle]

also if you are gonna break f2p at least buy skins

[silk sphinx]

? never bought a single skin

[cobalt rapids]

cheeky meta oathing now ?

[viscid swift]

unironically finally pulled the trigger just so I could dorm my low cost and farming fleet at the same time

[viscid swift]

maybe, we'll see

[vale spindle]

just swap ships around thats what i do

[sweet delta]

Got beaten up by

[viscid swift]

I tried that actually, absolutely hated it

[stark quiver]

i just make 3 low cost farming fleets

[weary gust]

I have 600 ships in dock, why dorm fleets when I can just make whole new ones

[silk sphinx]

i have 9 oath rings in storage, kind of bought too many

[viscid swift]

because I hate spreading XP out like that

[vale spindle]

me with 40 fleet tech ships all lvl 100+ that arent lvl 120 yet

im slowly clearing them out but this event added moar ships so yea

[weary gust]

I'm at the point where all my main fleets are level 120 so I am trying to get them exp stored to 125, and that's just sad.

[vale spindle]

Im not at that point yet

im at the point where im too coin broke and gold bulin broke

Although this event is nice cause one of the ssrs doesnt use bulins thank you devs

[viscid swift]

Give me a few more weeks

[silk sphinx]

i planned too... then life hit and now I'm at the stage where my canteen regularly caps out at 3600...

[vale spindle]

same

not cause life hit its cause i dont mindless grind fleet tech 24/7

[hoary abyss]

What's a good gear set up for z52?

[vale spindle]

normal dd gear
main gun is twin 100 rainbow or single 113 or single 76 but otherwise its normal

[sweet delta]

@hoary abyss

[cobalt rapids]

single 113 then standard gear

[viscid swift]

Single 113mm for her main gun, standard DD gear for the rest of her slots

[forest palm]

damn I already finished Giulio

[sweet delta]

Twin 100 may be better if she has level 1 skills

[hoary abyss]

Ok

[stark quiver]

does this sync work for taiho

[hollow gust]

why use BB?

[eager mulch]

syncing isn’t good for campaign bosses

[vale spindle]

lazy

[eager mulch]

i also wouldn’t bring 3 bbs into 13-4

[hollow gust]

also isnt that musashi too slow

[sweet delta]

How many unique urgent non-nightly commissions are there?

[cobalt rapids]

make musashi and bz tighter, move alsace ahead

[vale spindle]

Doesn't the wiki list all the options?

their names might be not the official en names but in terms of quantity that doesn't matter

[sweet delta]

If you're 457ing then might as well 460 Musashi

[silk sphinx]

looking at the wiki list don't remember seeing coms not on the list

[vale spindle]

Very poggers

[silk sphinx]

oh right my second 460 to +13

[stark quiver]

best i can do is 21.5 sashis first salvo

[sweet delta]

Actually I think you should go back to 20s guns

Quite important for Musashi to get black hole

[stark quiver]

champy time

[sweet delta]

Maybe 457 Alsace, champ/flandre Bisz, daisen musash

[stark quiver]

this is what i got

[cobalt rapids]

unfortunate

[stark quiver]

ima just mess around with the gears
whats the idea time in between zweis and sashis salvos

[sweet delta]

Have you tried putting AFCT on bisz

[stark quiver]

i forgot to mention, sashis oathed 💀
not 200 tho cuz lazy

i mean i do have a sashi dupe

[thorn tartan]

should i take my support fleet to level 125 for W15?

[stark quiver]

120 works fine

[thorn tartan]

i'm trying to 3 star 15-3 and it is a pain. There's about 15 mobs it seems

[eager mulch]

Is it on safe?

[thorn tartan]

safe or low, getting there

i'll need a healer in both fleets it seems

[eternal moth]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[thorn tartan]

yeah, i read them. both fleets run out of ammo so getting them to survive and be able to finish the boss is challenging

[eternal moth]

What? You shouldn't be getting out of ammo buffs on both fleets, one should be done all the fighting except one boss fight

Maybe 2 boss fights

[thorn tartan]

well once my mob fleets runs out of ammo, it doesn't survive many more battles

[viscid swift]

what is your mob fleet exactly

[eternal moth]

Then it's not a good W15 fleet

[vapid grotto]

Hey why cant i go to stage 3 of the event battles? I want the 50 tokens from the quest

[eternal moth]

Have you beaten D3?

[viscid swift]

clear D3

[vapid grotto]

Oh the hard mode?

[thorn tartan]

probably not. i took a break for the event. I'm using 2 healers in the back, along with Soyez, and Brest, Shimanto and Shimakaze in the front

[vapid grotto]

My ships are lvl 80 i dont think i can do that lol

[cobalt rapids]

big difference between safe and low

[eternal moth]

Musashi should be your primary mob BB alongside 2 healers, Uni and preferably Volga/Aquila

[thorn tartan]

what does musashi do for me? I got her at the event a month ago but haven't leved her yet

[eternal moth]

Her barrage is almost perfect for killing mobs

[thorn tartan]

i skilled her during the catch up a couple weeks ago

i'll level her up in this event, and work on 15-3 afterward

[eternal moth]

Then you won't be able to touch the enemies in SP

[thorn tartan]

do you put a healer in your boss too?

[stark quiver]

i do

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure I did as well

[thorn tartan]

my leveled healers are uni, volga and ..... painleve

i can't get aquila i don't think

[eternal moth]

Volga should be able to replace her as far as I know. Not having Percy might hurt though

[thorn tartan]

i can also level up Laff2.

[eternal moth]

Guam and Laffey are both really helpful for w15

[thorn tartan]

I have guam sandy and plymouth in the boss

[weary gust]

Not enough AA on that boss vanguard.

[naive mauve]

i just got back to playing, can we coin drake now?

[weary gust]

you can and she's still pretty irrelevant

[naive mauve]

i see i see, i didnt know she was weak

[rain vine]

she just got very powercrept

[naive mauve]

i see

[thorn tartan]

it looks like musashi's skills are better if she isn't the flag?

[eternal moth]

She should be flag for w15

[tawny ermine]

she any good?

[stark quiver]

no

[tawny ermine]

damn

[thorn tartan]

okay, limit breaking her. I can limit break one more UR for now. I can do Laff2 or the new event carrier?

[weary gust]

Read her skill carefully. There is an OR condition. And it's super easy to meet. Just don't have air incapability.

[stark quiver]

which you shouldnt have in the first place attempting w15

[soft raft]

Not half bad but nothing special enough to justify raising her

[thorn tartan]

yeah, i saw those words, not sure what I have in the air, probably pretty capable

[weary gust]

If you have air incapability in w15 you have 0% chance of beating w15 regardless.

[tawny ermine]

200 cubes down and still nothing good ive only gotten z11 like 5 times and duisburg once this is just really unlucky for me

75 cubes left

[thorn tartan]

i pulled the UR on the 5th pull. ( but I had to pity the last 2 UR events.....)

[tawny ermine]

i dont even have enough to pity this one

[thorn tartan]

now i need to decide if it is worth pulling for the extra ships

[tawny ermine]

i need another 130 cubes to do that

[thorn tartan]

you'll get them over the 2 week event i think

[odd cedar]

F

[weary gust]

Not without a credit card.

[tawny ermine]

if i dont get her in the next 75 cubes it might be over for me unless i somehow whale it

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 reruns on January 9th

[weary gust]

You'll get another 50 or so cubes by the end of the event if you're active.

[tawny ermine]

still not enough to pity

i might buy a couple cubes if i need tbh

[weary gust]

50 pulls isn't terrible odds for getting the UR. Not guaranteed but yeah.

[stark quiver]

it took me 194

[weary gust]

Over all the UR events my average is probably around 100 pulls to get them. At 100 currently, haven't gotten it.

[keen sable]

that's what math means...totally not in disbelief

[stark quiver]

my average was around 73 for 4 differerent events

[thorn tartan]

for 194, you basically get 2

[weary gust]

I wasn't trying to imply that I "should" have gotten it by now. I was just giving another datapoint.

[thorn tartan]

save bulin for Y2 or use now on Laff2

Laff2 would replace shimakaze in my w15 fleet i guess

[blissful hamlet]

what's ehp for Z52

[lime owl]

What is a good pr1 ship to research?

[blissful hamlet]

monarch but you probably better to research series 4 if you're new

[soft raft]

Doesn't really matter
Your current prio is to rush FdG if you're new

[blissful hamlet]

Z52 want fast gun or normal gun?

[lime owl]

Silly me doing st luis first

[stark quiver]

fast gun with max skill

[blissful hamlet]

so UR ijn gun over mogador gun?

[keen sable]

saint louis

[viscid swift]

she wants single 113mm over both

[viscid swift]

126% of Portland

[blissful hamlet]

tankier than plymouth

[hexed fox]

I did Izumo dont regret it. Probably a better choice tho

[dreamy blade]

[forest palm]

most of PR1 is tech filler at this point

[crimson pecan]

guys how do i get the twin 40mm?

[soft raft]

Gear lab or any reserach season that isnt PR1

[true kraken]

How long I have to wait for this?

[soft raft]

like a year ish ig

[weary gust]

Is that Eldridge's retrofit item?

[soft raft]

yeah

[crimson pecan]

can i get that gear from map?

[soft raft]

nop

also you dont really grind maps for gear

[crimson pecan]

how about the secondary gun?

[soft raft]

gold rarity Sakura Tech boxes

[crimson pecan]

i use all of them and i didnt get it, can i get it from the map?

i dont mind getting the purple one

[soft raft]

Just go look on the wiki that way you dont need to constantly ask https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)#Type_3-0

tho either way I wouldnt go farm campaign for gear, tech boxes are easier

[crimson pecan]

okay thanks 🙏

[crimson pecan]

i use all of them the purple and the gold box

[umbral bane]

ohh i see

[soft raft]

it's literally just your META Faction ships

they dont occupy actual dock space

[umbral bane]

yea i just found out

[low juniper]

What's a good CL gun and torp to use for Noshiro muse

[tawny ermine]

what do i put on her?

[stiff bison]

is there a way to change my azur lane currency? its showing usd

[hollow gust]

Quad Rainbow CL and the improve quad

[soft raft]

without knowing what you have, typical DD stuff

[low juniper]

I don't have the rainbow cl gun and the improved torp is on Mog, anything else?

[viscid swift]

Something like that

[tawny ermine]

??

[tawny ermine]

ohh

what is that last thing you have equiped what does it do? cause i dont have that

[soft raft]

Huh Fargo aux
or is that just typical alternative to 2nd toolbox

[viscid swift]

it's just what I'm using to level her up

[tawny ermine]

what should i put inplace with it?

[soft raft]

another toolbox

[eager mulch]

still stranger? slacking

[viscid swift]

you don't even have her turtle

[eager mulch]

[crisp estuary]

New URs? Holy shit

My first thought was she was a submarine UR. Immediate shoot down of expectations

[viscid swift]

chit chat can go to #al-general

[crisp estuary]

You're a chit cat

[orchid bison]

i am wading myself back into the game since ages now. i got lucky with my pull now I'm trying to remember how tf do i grind for stuff lol. boxes I know of one way but where do i get stuff like the steam cata's?

[eager mulch]

also boxes, research as well

[viscid swift]

keep grinding and you'll get more tech boxes, get them that way

[orchid bison]

google ai says 3-2 is the best place?

[viscid swift]

why would you trust chat gpt

[crisp estuary]

There's no gold blueprint drops in 3-2

[orchid bison]

yeah, ai sucks. where is it

[eager mulch]

AI is wrong more times than it is right

[viscid swift]

^
you don't grind maps for blueprint drops

[crisp estuary]

The best gold blueprint farms for crafting are event maps where the elite humanoid icon enemies can drop gold blueprints. So events and war archives (is that what it was called) are your best bet
Edit: specifically hard mode event maps or levels with gold blueprints on the drop table

[viscid swift]

drop rate is too low to make it worthwhile

[slow fox]

Shinano and Napoli skin aren't out yet, are they?

[eager mulch]

id only consider farming BPs from maps when it is both limited and really good which is literally just HVARs

[viscid swift]

nope

[orchid bison]

how do I get UR bulins?

[thorn tartan]

the UR triple 460mm main gun mount. Why isn't it on the tier list anywhere for BBs?

[viscid swift]

because it's very niche

[thorn tartan]

what is the niche?

[viscid swift]

mainly syncing BBs with CVs

[thorn tartan]

i mean it's an AP gun wtih 65 FP. Doesn't seem bad. Low fire rate maybe

[viscid swift]

it's slow reload is the issue

[fast steppe]

can rainbow mag quints work better on shimakaze than the improved mag quads?

[viscid swift]

it can't sync with Helena, high Alpha and long reload is pretty bad for wave clearing, and you can only have at max 2 right now

[viscid swift]

improves quad mags are better not factoring in any timing factors that favor the quints

[thorn tartan]

so what is it's niche then?

[viscid swift]

^

[thorn tartan]

oh ya

[sharp socket]

slow gun = cant work with helena who is a staple in almost all BB comps

its also just slower so it fires less for short fights, and most fights are pretty short except CM

[mellow cape]

I haven't used Helena in a hot minute ngl

[orchid bison]

alright, i'm a dumb dumb. are the specialized cores time limited to try to get?

[thorn tartan]

you only get a certain number per month

[sharp socket]

helena can get taken out for pure dps or other support but its way more expensive to do so and be better

[viscid swift]

you're limited to 6k a month at best

[thorn tartan]

that's 1.5 UR bulin/month

[viscid swift]

5k from farming plus an additional 1k from the medal shop

[orchid bison]

where are their stages?

[viscid swift]

they should drop from pretty much all stages

[thorn tartan]

wait, do you need to buy the 1k from the medal shop each month?

[orchid bison]

better chance on hard?

[undone plover]

it is a fixed rate
not rng

[viscid swift]

well the cap is 5k and the ones in the medal shop don't count towards the cap

yeah, just grind normally and you'll soon hit 5k

[orchid bison]

alright. now the gems, you cannot get them in game in any method correct? purely a cash item?

[viscid swift]

no

you can get a limited amount as a free to play

I reccomend giving #bot-spam /gems a read for moe info

[sharp socket]

you get gems from 3starring campaign and some events throughout the year

[orchid bison]

I stalled up to world 10 so i don't have much left

[sharp socket]

you can also rarely get them from commissions

[thorn tartan]

i don't really understand the 1000 per month from the medal shop

[sharp socket]

you still have 1250 left, thats 60 dock space or a skin if you disregard recommendations

[viscid swift]

^

you're capped at 5k that you can earn from most sources like map drops

but the ones in the medal shop don't count towards that cap meaning you can get 6k a month with that

[orchid bison]

yeah i want that IB bunny skin but I have most recs already. dock space does still need expansion

[thorn tartan]

i don't see any UR bulin stuff in my medal shop.......

[orchid bison]

Proto shop

[viscid swift]

you can get Specialized Cores in the medal shop to buy UR Bullins in the Prototype Shop

right there next to the SR Bullins

[thorn tartan]

oh so i should be buying those each month.......

[sharp socket]

i have to say the game does not become completely unplayable if you never buy dockspace, but it is a big pain everytime you get a new ship and youll spend alot more time needlessly optimising subpar decisions

[viscid swift]

yes

[orchid bison]

how often do skins rerun? for example the IB bunny suit has a 12 day timer. does it eventually come back?

[viscid swift]

if you want a skin it's best to just pay for it

[late flame]

if you are f2p dun bother with skins*

[viscid swift]

worst case scenario it reruns next November during the Black Friday event

[thorn tartan]

i think most of the skins pop up from time to time

[sharp socket]

skins would rerun during black Friday and every once in a while depending on how the devs feel

[orchid bison]

fomo for sure lol

[viscid swift]

it's just how the game has always done things

[orchid bison]

wonder if this is why i left in the first place

[sharp socket]

they also become permanent after some time

just dont buy skins if you don't intend to spend money is the general recommendation

[thorn flume]

[warm flax]

c2 still good?

[eager mulch]

yes

[stiff bison]

is there a way to buy cheaper gems? cause i know some games you can buy currency on their website rather than playstore or appstore

[hollow gust]

not cheaper

2x gems is still the best way to get gems

[sharp socket]

codashop has 10% off iirc

but it also rejected my card so

[forest palm]

[versed dagger]

Where exactly can i get SR x gear blueprints and T2 ordanance blueprints for the gear lab? I know they're adquiered from opsi, and i got the ones from the shop, but those seem like a not very good amount, especially for the amount of equipment there's to do, or maybe they are adqured scarcely?

[viscid swift]

you get them as drops from almost everywhere just clear all the explorable modes, abyssals, strongholds, hidden modes, and arbiters each month and you'll be fine

[versed dagger]

Strongholds, if they are what i think they are, are a bit too hard for me

[sweet delta]

strongholds are the small red hurricanes that cost 200 AP, but you can leave them to heal at a port and reenter freely

[remote quarry]

Looking for suggestions for 125 priority

[crystal flume]

between fritz (the new UR) and new jersey which one i should aim to 5 stars first? currently only have 1 UR bullin

if it help me with opsi clear that would be nice.. currently struggling at diff 5 and 6

[fast steppe]

what's the priority for shipyard research? don't have enough tech points for nakhimov

[stiff isle]

For the Ply-Gun, If I have the protocore should I use it (If I already bought the Tenrai) or should I continue doing research for the prints?

[eager mulch]

don’t use the bulin unless you can get them to mlb

[fast steppe]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[eager mulch]

limit breaking is all or nothing, either mlb them or don’t

[crystal flume]

ah that's make it simple then thank you.. will lvl up them then

[stark quiver]

Does the gem pack with the ur bulin out value the 40 dollars gem pack with bonus

[coral burrow]

Im trying to plan for late game (W14 and W15) Was wondering if this was a good start and if i should replace/wait for anyone that might get a re-run soon
Fleet 1(Boss):
Fritz Rumey
FDG
Admiral Nakhimov
Plymouth
San Diego
Z52

Fleet 2 (Mob):
Unicorn
New Jersey
Perseus
Eldridge
Hindenburg
Agir

[eager mulch]

unicorn retrofit is better than perseus in W14 and 15

and using them both is a detriment

[coral burrow]

bet

so who should i replace with perseus u think?

[versed dagger]

I must be really unlucky then