gameplay-help

[proven mist]

Ohh, I'll do so then. Thank you.

[final heart]

do I need to fight these things to get to the boss?

[forest palm]

they're optional, but they'll follow you

[soft raft]

They qualify as mobs that count towards the boss but aren't required to be beat

But they do move so I just go beat their ass asap

And they also give upgrade plates

[spring bolt]

no, but they have twice move range, stronger than normal nodes, and have better exp/drop than normal nodes

[polar linden]

Guys how's Z52 bullet works?? Is it lock on? Or what?

[soft raft]

wdym

[pseudo saffron]

Is uvh good for mob fleets?

[soft raft]

her gimmick in theory is nice for mob but

1. Out of Ammo mechanic in campaign is not kind to her since said gimmick nerfs her damage
2. There are a whole lot of options for mobbing backlines in OpSi
3. There are also better options than her for bossing in many areas

At best she at least has a cross fleet barrage that's good for mobbing

[polar linden]

Well if you do battle simulation with Z52 , you'd notice all of her bullets stop midway and then it hits

[soft raft]

Ah her barrage/AoA bullets
they work basically the same Plymouth's barrage in terms of aiming

[keen sable]

no but you should 3* all maps so...

[polar linden]

No it's her normal bullets lol, every shot she makes stop midway XD

[soft raft]

if you're talking about the little red ones, those are from her AoA/Barrage
She stills fires regular projectiles with her main gun like any DD would

[polar linden]

Oh ok ok

[keen sable]

use gear skins if you're having trouble seeing what's what

[soft raft]

i mean it's the battle sim and Z52 kinda gets right in the enemy's face so not surprised he couldnt see the regular gun projectiles

Especially when it appears to be single shot normal ammo or some shit

[stark quiver]

Will there be a new lucky bag after right after this one

[soft raft]

if you mean the paid skin gacha thingy, there's a 2nd batch of skins next week so i wouldnt be surprised if there's one for that batch as well

[polar linden]

Yes XD hahaha she totally diving straight to them so I can barely see her bullets, mostly it's red ones

[stark quiver]

Of the pr7 ships right?

Cool thx

[strong tartan]

pr7 ships + shinano in that glass box thing

[rapid grail]

what's the difference between the points given in normal and hard mode? Noticed that normal gives out x3 points

[viscid swift]

same as usual event maps, just a different format for the maps

[atomic abyss]

for many many MANY years
normal mode always gives 3x bonus for first time clear per day

[soft raft]

it's the same usual stuff
intial runs give normal difficulty stages a daily 3x bonus for the first clear of the day

[eternal moth]

You get less base points in normal, and the x3 bonus is only once a day

[atomic abyss]

there's nothing new regarding the bonus

[soft raft]

for reruns, the 3x becomes 5x and Hard mode gets the x3

[stark quiver]

For c1 farming, do I set the auto exchange items to yea or no

[spring bolt]

for exact numbers
a1 to b3 is 30 to 80
c1 to d1 is 90 to 120, and d2 150, d3 180

[rapid grail]

yes so as to not stop your clear with hundreds of tb messages asking u to pick up something

[rapid grail]

Oh, this was the first time this mechanic was presented to me like this. Thank you guys

[stark quiver]

Nice, im just farming for AP boxes

[thorn flume]

[opaque gate]

is the torp the best torp rn?

[soft raft]

best torps for Auto

[atomic abyss]

the one in the shop is the best magnetic

[opaque gate]

what is the best for manual?

[soft raft]

it's a straight upgrade to the regular Gold German quad mag

[rapid grail]

yes it is better than the quadmags we can craft atm

[thorn flume]

What auto fleet team do most everyone use in w15 for mob and boss?

[soft raft]

It's either Shimakaze torps or that british one in gear lab

[rapid grail]

teatorps if you want to be safe
shima's event torps if you want to facehug

[soft raft]

/w15 give this a read for some idea

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[soft raft]

you can make a thread later if you want more detailed help

[mint perch]

is stage A3 bugged?

[soft raft]

in what manner?

[mint perch]

i cant 3 star it

[soft raft]

which star are you missing?

[mint perch]

the defeat all enemy

[soft raft]

that mean go kill every enemy node that isnt the boss

[atomic abyss]

you probably didnt defeat all enemies

[rapid grail]

musashi - aquila - unikai or biszwei/soyuz/alsace - volga - unikai for backline
guam - laff-ii - shimanto for best frontline, brest - sandy - shimanto for day 1 clearing + permanent content for frontline

[atomic abyss]

there is an icon that turns blue once you defeat all enemies

[mint perch]

guess time to go back and check

[soft raft]

Out of curioisty, have we've ever had a ship that uses all 4 enhancement stats or not

[viscid swift]

yes, I-13

[atomic abyss]

shirakami fubuki as well

[rapid grail]

damn thats crazy. what's her gear loadout?

[atomic abyss]

she's a sub with a plane

[viscid swift]

she's an SSV

a cousin of sorts to the I-400s

[atomic abyss]

DD gun replaced with seaplane

[soft raft]

but then where did the FP stat go to
her barrage?

[atomic abyss]

well... she still has ghost DD gun iirc?

[forest palm]

mildly curious how viable FBK would be in 15, doesn't feel like she'd do much of anything though

[atomic abyss]

yes she does

[strange sphinx]

man, this crab is annoying, just get down immediately

[atomic abyss]

this is the real one tho

[forest palm]

FBK the pocket AVI boosters

[strong tartan]

bearn too

[forest palm]

is Houshou 3, or 4

[atomic abyss]

houshou lacks torps

[forest palm]

she's 2

forgot the 0 FP CL Gun

[undone plover]

I might have to low cost this event
what is the B2 5 oil fleet?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm how do you guys do 3/4 farming for A-1 - B3?

[strange sphinx]

what is B2 drop?

[undone plover]

nothing important

[blissful hamlet]

What's the most oil efficient way to farm this event? Yes I know what I'm doing

[soft raft]

D3 if you're not a tryhard

[undone plover]

i heard B2 but would love to know as well

[spring bolt]

time to summon cheeky

[blissful hamlet]

B2 with zombie fleet?

[undone plover]

cheeky said 5 oil
idk if he specified who

[blissful hamlet]

Sounds like zombie with ranger

[spring bolt]

either ranger lv70 + cassin + z20
or ranger lv1 + double mahans + z20 i guess

[blissful hamlet]

What about C2?

[deft wraith]

Heloo. Is she good? I just got her for one pull in light

[spring bolt]

c2 i have no idea... i am CN...

[tranquil rock]

she is meh
also pull in event banner better that way

if event banner, pull on it

[deft wraith]

Oh I still have 54 Cubes left

[tranquil rock]

54 cubes isnt alot

[keen sable]

if you have all the event ships i guess light is ok...

[deft wraith]

I never spend them

[keen sable]

also scary...

[tranquil rock]

event banner can give you normal ships aswell too no

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm what fleet for EX Event?

[keen sable]

the point of cubes is to spend them

[viscid swift]

Ranger, Cassin and Downes

[strange sphinx]

cheeky is here

[deft wraith]

Because you know If I spend alot of Wisdom cubes on Event Banner. It'll end up Receiving worthless ships.

[eager mulch]

cheeky is always here

[undone plover]

3-4 oil b1 was not possible?

[stark quiver]

3 ijn cv,
helena

[viscid swift]

That's not how it works

[keen sable]

all you're doing is pulling power crept or bad ships

[blissful hamlet]

Cheeky good

[viscid swift]

Maybe, I just didn't try it

[eternal moth]

You never spend them but only have 54 left? That doesn't add up

[viscid swift]

I'm not gonna fuss over it though

[undone plover]

i guess b2 faster time wise

[spring bolt]

normal ex is easy, just use your meta fleet so no gear swapping needed
hard... git gud

[viscid swift]

Yep

[strange sphinx]

Can Agir tank? I still don't have Plymouth nor the UR DD

[stark quiver]

yea
the ez ex is ez
🕹️ for hard

[keen sable]

it's not unreasonable to start saving once you have all event ships. any cube over minimum is a cube you might wish you had in the future

[eternal moth]

Which is better to farm, since I can't do even D1 on my second account: C3 or B3?

[tranquil rock]

meh not really
you can pull for extra copies of the ur to use in limit breaking

[eager mulch]

Sam says C2

[tranquil rock]

and cubes can be easily obtained

[keen sable]

that's really bad. do you really not want yorktown?

[deft wraith]

Maybe I'll Try to Pull for one first

[strange sphinx]

also for Converging tb mix of all ryusei, sauin and Junkers for syncing?

[stark quiver]

thats a horrible idea

[stark quiver]

whatever syncs, or doesnt sync
boss is mostly stationary, its kinda w/e

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 literally reruns in 3 weeks

[tranquil rock]

meh

[keen sable]

now if you're me with 3500 cubes you can do whatever and i do but most people are not me

[strange sphinx]

Unique is just built different

[eager mulch]

im him

[stark quiver]

how else are you gonna get yorktown 2

[strong tartan]

hi him

[tranquil rock]

hey i didnt know yorkii reruns in 3 weeks

ima need that skyraider buddy

[sharp socket]

yk2 directly after this event?

[tranquil rock]

must... get... skyraider...

[viscid swift]

one week after

[stark quiver]

jan 9-16

[sharp socket]

so its fritz event then dead week then yk2?

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[strange sphinx]

what's the D3 drops for YKii event?

[viscid swift]

HVAR Hellcat

[stark quiver]

hvar cats

[strange sphinx]

nice

[tranquil rock]

when are we loading meowfficers into hvars and firing them

whole new meaning to hvar cat

[jovial cosmos]

Do i even need to get 3* in event hardmode??

[crisp wraith]

There's a mission for C3 and D3.

[stark quiver]

for extra rewards

[ivory pawn]

Can skip C1/2 and D1/2.

[jovial cosmos]

Right.

[spring bolt]

btw you can skip c1c2 and d1d2 completely this time, not just 3 star

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm what W is the equivalent of this event D3?

[forest palm]

I knew Taiho fight would be easy, but not this easy

[soft raft]

10-11

[strange sphinx]

hmmm tnx

[rapid grail]

just clearing them is fine?

[ivory pawn]

You can clear A1A2 and B1B2 instead.

[spring bolt]

you can do this:

[forest palm]

I think the mission wants you to just clear C/D side at least once

[undone plover]

he means clear and 3 star a1 > a2 > c3 > b1 > b2 > d3 for everything

[eager mulch]

[warm pivot]

where can I get more of those UR vouchers??/

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

people really don't look around

[lavish arrow]

something is distracting me

[proven mist]

*I am missing some good vanguard ships, and have none of the ones from new years invitation event except formidable..
Who should I pick?

Options are: Graf Zeppelin, Belfast, South Dakota, Formidable, noshiro, bismark and richelieu

[eager mulch]

what does the handkerchief do

[forest palm]

nothing, it's trash

[eager mulch]

what does amagi-chan do

[forest palm]

look adorable

[eager mulch]

[tawny ermine]

is le malin u any good im reading her skills she seems alright but i wanna make sure

rip

[eternal moth]

She's not really any better than your starter

[forest palm]

check the pins

[tawny ermine]

well shes gonna be my secretary anyway

so my luck is so bad i cant get UR from event so im just got fdg anyone able to tell me what to put on her? i dont have insane weapons so if you need to see what i have let me know

[forest palm]

[wispy star]

super casual player here
is the new UR banner character good?

[stark quiver]

Yah

[wind hazel]

ask again when your FDG is Dev30

[wispy star]

thanks
i like her design too

[tawny ermine]

ight

[proven mist]

What are DD's generally used for? I seem to use cl/cb mostly instead..

[tawny ermine]

...

[rapid grail]

good BB, is dated but is still good. you can coin up her BPs
enjoy her with 457mm, 45 fp secondary, staag aa gun, double shells for mobbing

[dreamy blade]

asw, tanking if laffii, vanguard hulltypes dont really correspond to specific roles

[tawny ermine]

would she be better then nj for bossing? if so what would i put on her for that so i know when i get her to mlb

[hallow loom]

lacking ur bulins, NJ, rumey or z52 first?

[proven mist]

Ohhh.. for submarines mostly.
Thanks, I was wondering if I was missing something.

[dreamy blade]

some of them do a lot of dmg too like the ddgs or taiyuan retro etc

[wispy star]

is there somewhere where i can find a list of dailies / weeklies or other stuff to prioritize
ive always played casually and just log on to pull on banners
and im not sure where to start

[dreamy blade]

or buff like kazagumo

[compact citrus]

Is this acceptable loadout for fritz? I only have 2 ur plane and that's nakhimov plane and tenrai

[dreamy blade]

but again that isnt bc theyre destroyers, it's just what the ship skills are

[soft raft]

At the bare minimum do the daily missions that give cubes

Give this a read as well, lots of very helpful tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[rapid grail]

not much nowadays. but if you don't have much options as a starting player, do use them together in bb bossing

[keen pewter]

are the new torps better than normal ib quad mags for auto?

[soft raft]

Direct upgrade

[dreamy blade]

theyre not new but yes

[keen pewter]

aighty

[rapid grail]

that's the w15 support cv comp, where she is effectively BiS
for mobbing you replace the 2nd pancake with a wyvern
think of indepkai but no preload for a CL gun

[keen sable]

raid, hard mode, ops. when there's an event, event. backfill anything not caught like feed dorm, build, and exercise

[wispy star]

ty

[dreamy blade]

but if youre gonna stay casual/log on to pull on banners then stuff like opsi is a lot lower priority

[stiff bison]

should i clear the event hard or normal?

[atomic abyss]

Clear normal up till B2, then do D3

[forest palm]

pretty sure there's a mission that wants you to clear C/D side, someone can check that

[atomic abyss]

C3 and D3 iirc

[stiff bison]

wait so after B2 i can go hard?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Ideally you'd do C3 for the rewards too

[stiff bison]

wait so norm on C3 as well?

[forest palm]

3 Star C3 + D3 do the rest normal

[stiff bison]

wait nvm i got it

[echo vector]

Need info on aegir's new skin interaction. I only found the jacket on/off and the disc to make her sleep and doodle her face.

[atomic abyss]

Ask in #al-general

[echo vector]

Ok

[eternal moth]

Nimi or Sara, I assume Sara is the better choice for first aug?

[echo vector]

Wow.

[drifting pecan]

Man, i love this game, now they make it easier for us to clearing stages

[signal fog]

where can i get guide like this ?

[hollow gust]

China

[signal fog]

btw, if i use high eficiency combat plan, do i get 2x commander exp too ?

[drifting pecan]

Yes ofc

Any further info bout this?

[eternal moth]

What info are you looking for?

[drifting pecan]

Does these medal can be displayed on profil account?

[eternal moth]

I think they're just like the medals from the past collab. They're for furniture

[drifting pecan]

Ah okay

[plain saffron]

There should be one in profil i think

The one on the left should be displayable

[viscid swift]

Okay after some experimentation, B3 and not B2 is the best low cost farm for this event

[boreal temple]

Fritz skill 3 clears everyone's detection gauge or just her?

[wind hazel]

what fleet

[viscid swift]

Ranger, cassin, downes

Boss is basically no threat as it spawns instantly so cross fleets immediately kill it

[wind hazel]

oh yeah the crab is easy lol

[viscid swift]

Higher point to oil ratio than b1 and hipper meta drops

[pallid robin]

what happens when you run a lv 125 ship on the map? she get 0 exp and the exp is wasted?

[viscid swift]

Pretty much

Assuming the ship has acculated 3 million xp already

[viscid swift]

Just her own

[stark quiver]

is a bulin mk2 a cv

[wind hazel]

DD

[stark quiver]

thats odd.......

[wind hazel]

what is

[atomic abyss]

She does have an Avi stat

[stark quiver]

i saw somewhere she had a cv symbol

[storm heron]

how to unlock sp? just doing normals?

[weary fog]

is there a W14 or W15 guide. I heard the team comps get v restricted going into these 2

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /w15

[elfin hollow]

I got Rumey quite early, I have another 100 cubes left and Im at 40 pity, should I keep going and try to obtain some dupes?Or should I save up? Dont quite have enoigh to go to pity maybe I will have enough before it ends. Im still missing the elite on the banner as well.

[storm heron]

do I still need to clear all hard stages to unlock SP?

[keen sable]

dupes are a bad idea

no terrible

[wind hazel]

clear D3 to unlock SP

[storm heron]

just D3? ok

[wind hazel]

yes

but to be able to clear d3, you need to clear A1 to B2 at least

[elfin hollow]

thank you, Ill try to get the elite and stop then

[rough vale]

How can I get 2 full DE fleets from here? Doing Harbin farming after I'm done grinding coins for event ships.

[stark quiver]

chang chun, an shan, tai yuan

[elfin hollow]

This normal?

[wind hazel]

yat sen+ddg is fine too

[rough vale]

chen hai hwah jah huan chang & the ddg's should be enough for 2 main fleets ig

[stark quiver]

if anything, just pick ships with decent tech

[storm heron]

2 main fleets?

[rough vale]

yes, doing full DE fleets

[stark quiver]

why full de
you only need frontline

[storm heron]

not sure why u need it but sure

[rough vale]

for fun 🎉

and use ships I don't normally

[wind hazel]

just a word of caution but the backline is extremely dogshit

[storm heron]

I wonder what level average that needds to farm 12-1

[atomic abyss]

100+ probably

[stark quiver]

my fleets die while 100+

[rough vale]

yeah if I have enough juice to survive event D3 on safe it'll be good. Can borrow gear & farm levels ( i have tons of xp books)

[elfin hollow]

Whatever will survive to the boss

[atomic abyss]

Well

You're not using both 2 DE fleets on this event that's for sure

Because there's a CA lock

[vagrant harness]

is z52 tanky?

[storm heron]

[rough vale]

damn

[atomic abyss]

And there are no Chinese CAs

[atomic abyss]

With the single 113, very tanky

[storm heron]

where can I post the first z52

[stark quiver]

how much xp do i need to get a gold ship from 110-120

[storm heron]

1.45m

[atomic abyss]

/wiki experience

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[vagrant harness]

can i replace hinden with her? my hinden is still dev20 lol

[thin nova]

what aux should I give Fritz? Just normal CV aux?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

which augment is preferred for z52? hammer or two swords

[stark quiver]

swords

[atomic abyss]

Sword

[elfin hollow]

alright ty

[stark quiver]

z52 is more of a gunboat

[vagrant harness]

who does fritz replace? so far enjoying my amagi cv mlb

[atomic abyss]

Nothing

Fritz uses differ from amagi

[storm heron]

how good is eyepatch?

who should I mlb if I have eyepatch and magicv

[atomic abyss]

Well
We believe she's the best anti med CV
And she's the best for w15 support

Amagi

[viral flicker]

What to use on het

[atomic abyss]

Amagi because she can buff your Haku and Nano

[storm heron]

she's w15 good ?

[noble osprey]

Guys i already got all the special ships from this banner with 50 pulls, should i keep pulling for 200 to get another UR copy or nah?

[storm heron]

nah

[atomic abyss]

Hellcat + Helldiver
Give her any gold AA gun, 2 catapults

[stark quiver]

8 fighters

[atomic abyss]

For support fleet strictly
Cos of her 8 fighters

[storm heron]

wtf

[atomic abyss]

She's not better than existing w15 mob or boss options

[stark quiver]

wtf indeed

[atomic abyss]

Her main use will (likely) be opsi/meta

[stark quiver]

another kear

[atomic abyss]

She's a reverse kears lol

[rough vale]

Does Agir count as a CA for event lock?

[atomic abyss]

No, she's a CB

[storm heron]

is her kit available in datamine?

[rough vale]

Fine I'll use roon. She's got a dragon in her base skin

close enough to dragon empery

[crimson glacier]

Whose

[atomic abyss]

My dude, #event-faq exists in addition to the datamine

[storm heron]

[crimson glacier]

Like the event is literally live atm

[vagrant harness]

which ships are best for world 15?

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[crimson glacier]

Musashi and aquila

[storm heron]

also if I have aquila dupe is it worth keeping?

[stark quiver]

bro has aquila

[storm heron]

idk the opportunity cost of retiring her since w16 might be next year

[stark quiver]

-1 dock space, you can if you want
or you can raise 2 aquila and use in flt 1&2

[little tree]

Use volga and aqullia ez

[atomic abyss]

No just MLB the Aquila

Use Volga or Zuihou if you need another one

[storm heron]

I had aquila mlb 125

[little tree]

Had???!!!

[storm heron]

it was a long time ago

[atomic abyss]

Then retire the dupe

[storm heron]

I risked 30 cubes in zui event

[stark quiver]

so u still have your 125 aquila?

[storm heron]

yea ofc, why would I retire her

[crimson glacier]

because you said had

[little tree]

^

[storm heron]

oh dangit

[atomic abyss]

risked 30 cubes
for a free ship...

[storm heron]

I mean for aquila

it was worth it though, w15 lethal 3* is easy

[crimson glacier]

if thats easy then why do you need any dupes

[storm heron]

might be able to level something there, or just w16

[stark quiver]

what about w16

[crimson glacier]

level 1 or 2 ships in w15

vs leveling 6 ships in w12, which one do you think will win

[storm heron]

but I guess three events will be cv events

[keen sable]

leveling something on the boss fleet. that's going to be productive...not

[atomic abyss]

C'mon fybre you should know better

[storm heron]

right...

[viral flicker]

Purple catapults?

[atomic abyss]

Gold ideally

[viral flicker]

And if I don't have spare he'll cat helldiver what to do

[burnt skiff]

is getting a z52 dupe worth it? I'm super short on ur bulins

[atomic abyss]

You swap the gear from someone else?
Otherwise don't use her till she's max star

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely worth it

[burnt skiff]

[storm heron]

the only reason why it can be not worth it is your time constraint tbh

[burnt skiff]

thanks

[vagrant harness]

who is prio to get first in pr7?

[atomic abyss]

Nakhimov and Napoli
Doesn't matter who first, as they won't be dev 30 for a while

[storm heron]

1 acc for main fleet or 4 rld for cruisers? no ace base

[elfin hollow]

Is there best way to farm coin?

[atomic abyss]

12-4 or 13-4 outside events
During events, D3

[spring bolt]

none, just reset

oh...

[storm heron]

I only have 1 other 20 rld cat

[spring bolt]

acc i guess, no ace base means this one will be fodder one day

[viral flicker]

How to get more of those gears

[atomic abyss]

You open gold and purple techboxes

[viral flicker]

How u already have one

[atomic abyss]

It's possible to get it in one day

[keen mural]

What's the best stage to farm the event currency? D3?

[atomic abyss]

You just need to do all the missions that give the UR vouchers

[burnt skiff]

I have oil in storage

[storm heron]

they are planning time allocation ofc

[burnt skiff]

and that

[stark quiver]

either
dont pick another talent/or pick w/e you want,
if its strictly a cv cat, then you can go with cl 4 rld i guess

[viral flicker]

Ty for confirmation

[storm heron]

I have dd hp and cv hp as options too if that's better

[stark quiver]

its not

[viral flicker]

Is there a way to make one star auto retire and 1 star gear auto disassemble this is becoming a pain

[keen mural]

Which one would you LB first between the two new UR?
I only have Musashi and shimakaze MLB, been playing for 3 months so I don't have any of the older ones

[left tiger]

Do I need to grind for 2nd plygun before moving to next pr series?

[solar canopy]

what is the use of this?

[stark quiver]

you get a medal and commemorative reward for dorm

[keen mural]

If you get all of the you get furniture and a medal

[atomic abyss]

save and wait

come back and ask when you have 4 UR bulins

[keen mural]

Alright but I might have them in January

[atomic abyss]

and in jan we have another UR

[keen mural]

Again?

[atomic abyss]

hence why i am telling you to wait

[solar canopy]

ahh fir this, right?

[atomic abyss]

yorktown 2 rerun for Jan 9th according to the JP stream

[solar canopy]

what ship?

[storm heron]

[keen mural]

Yorktown2 is better?

[noble osprey]

Guys should i strive to keep 1 of each ship i get or can i make room if im running out of slots?

[atomic abyss]

maybe
we dont know how good the 2 new URs are yet

[storm heron]

predict future

[solar canopy]

I'm waiting for that ship.

[atomic abyss]

if you're not a collector, feel free to get rid of ships you can easily farm

[keen mural]

Yorktown 2 was from pulls or shop?

[atomic abyss]

pulls

all the shop URs have been DDs

[keen mural]

Ah ok, thanks

[vestal glen]

if i cant make it to map D because my avg level too low, i just farm C3?

[true kraken]

What is the drop rate of UR and Meta?

[atomic abyss]

C2 then

[clever lance]

How do you skip event stages to go straight to d3?

[vestal glen]

umm why?

[atomic abyss]

1 less battle

[storm heron]

do A1 to C2

[true kraken]

So why I got Meta before UR, doesnt make any sense

[vestal glen]

ic

[atomic abyss]

you can't
you still have to at least complete A1 to B2

[atomic abyss]

rng

[vestal glen]

also damn, wtf why the avi requirement so high for D3

[clever lance]

Oh thanks

[atomic abyss]

just use more carriers?

[strange sphinx]

[vestal glen]

my entire team alr running carriers, as if that wasnt bad enuf i dont even have the level 😦

[spring bolt]

rng and math, this is how they work

[clever lance]

Do I need to 100% each stage to get the next one unlocked?

[atomic abyss]

yes
100% for new events is just 1 boss battle tho

[clever lance]

Should I use my oil in storage to progress through the event stages?

[strange sphinx]

3 star C3 and D3

[clever lance]

Just really low on oil now -_-

[strange sphinx]

How much?

[atomic abyss]

yes if you havent cleared the bare minimum from the shop

[strange sphinx]

[true kraken]

Why I cant do C1? it force me to do A1 first?

[atomic abyss]

if you didnt skip past the tutorial they force on to you

you would see that there is a toggle in the bottom left corner of the text box

[true kraken]

what tutorial?

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

the game literally tells you where to tap to change it to hard mode

[true kraken]

what, I dont see it

[clever lance]

Should we be doing hard mode instead?

[atomic abyss]

yes

at least for farming

[strange sphinx]

how

[atomic abyss]

wouldn't be the first time this happens

[true kraken]

Just tell me how do I turn to hard mode

[atomic abyss]

^

[clever lance]

Bottom left corner

[true kraken]

Oh I see, never mind

[atomic abyss]

Like

[true kraken]

I thought yall saying this

[spring bolt]

my EN account was fine but that tutorial didn't pop up for my CN account until i cleared b1... so there might be a bug there

[atomic abyss]

i saw it the moment i tapped A1 kek

[storm heron]

Skip the Tutorial tm

[clever lance]

So we have to beat the normal mode event stages first to advance story? Or can we just do all hard mode all the way

[atomic abyss]

you can do whatever way you want

[keen sable]

A1 A2 C3 B1 B2 D3

[late flame]

hard mode all the waaaay

[clever lance]

Thanks

[true kraken]

what is this for?

[topaz smelt]

anyone got taihou kill fleets?

[dusky cloak]

do we know what the gold and exp ratio for event D3 is comparable to?

[stark quiver]

rockets, for light armor

[storm heron]

implac amagi shinano mogador unzen kaza

[atomic abyss]

as always, roughly w10-11

[atomic abyss]

best plane for light armoured bosses in meta, opsi and CM

[topaz smelt]

doesnt tell me much without gear, thats like the standard

[keen sable]

fritz rumey

[sharp token]

i have 1000 gems, should i use it for dock space?

[atomic abyss]

if you alr bought your 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor, sure

[storm heron]

holdup

it took him 5 years to come up with this

[topaz smelt]

looks like jimmys comp

[storm heron]

yeah ikr

[topaz smelt]

any other comps?

[slow fox]

Weren't you just talking with Jimmy on this in Community server?

[storm heron]

wait no that's jimmy's comps

[topaz smelt]

im putting together a list

[slow fox]

You can ask SuchiSpooner

He probably has one.

[topaz smelt]

easier to just ask dfg

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

yall tried 3 bb yet?

[topaz smelt]

and hes got me blocked

[stark quiver]

whats on earth did you do 💀

[topaz smelt]

its kinda ass

[slow fox]

What the ECTL

[storm heron]

that's possible?

[topaz smelt]

i called him out on his shit takes

[slow fox]

I'm currently using Vangaurd Musashi BisII, and it's not 1shotting. I don't have minmaxxed gear tho.

[atomic abyss]

umi and i were using this

[uneven cave]

fw190 is best for anti-heavy implac fighter slot righht

[forest palm]

Suchi and blocking people is hilariously common the dude has a fragile ego

[atomic abyss]

no, it's la-9 now

[topaz smelt]

im surprised ppl are supporting his crap ngl

[atomic abyss]

quite rng with tash tho

[slow fox]

I support Suchicrap.

[atomic abyss]

rice, people support your crap too, why are you surprised?

[storm heron]

what did suchi do in this past week?

[slow fox]

Gear?

[topaz smelt]

ik 4 strike cvs work

[stark quiver]

and tech?

[uneven cave]

I don't have an la-9, and I should give them to anti-med CVs first

[atomic abyss]

i dont know what umi used
i know it doesnt work for me cos im missing loads of avi tech kek

[slow fox]

This is the context, btw. This is his shittiest take.

[storm heron]

Like I was gone for a week and pretty sure people like suchi back then

[topaz smelt]

ive heard otherwise

he hasnt changed in like 4 years

[atomic abyss]

this is like the pot calling the kettle black lmao

[topaz smelt]

anyone got the gear for that fleet?
im assuming 3 strike?

[storm heron]

what's the relation to pot and color?

[slow fox]

Copypaste gear from Jimmycomp. :mutsuki:

[slow fox]

/wiki figure_of_speech

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black

tl;dr "You too, loser"

[atomic abyss]

i'll just paste what i used

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[naive mauve]

how good are the to-love ru ships and gears? it's still not on the tierlist

[storm heron]

I thought it would lead me to the beginning of the drama, turns out just some random wiki

[atomic abyss]

golds are good by gold standards

[forest palm]

most of the TLR gear is filler stuff for beginner players

[atomic abyss]

the issue is they're not rainbows

[slow fox]

I was shitposting. Sorry. :mutsuki:

To my knowledge, we like him.

[atomic abyss]

suchi has his detractors ofc, just like any guide maker or community contributor

[slow fox]

Good thing all my detractors are stored in one server.

[stark quiver]

you cant please everyone

[wind hazel]

any kimocheese enjoyer?

[uneven cave]

[atomic abyss]

i just take issue with shameless hypocrites really

you cant complain about people using other people's guides and resources when your own can no longer be followed for one reason or another

[storm heron]

super effective

[rose cosmos]

Is Z11 available in map drop? I accidentally reduced her and then realized I needed her for mission

[atomic abyss]

no, gacha only

[wind hazel]

holy rip bozo good luck getting another elite

[atomic abyss]

well you dont need her

[topaz smelt]

its almost like we wrote most of the guides and resources used today

[atomic abyss]

you can just grind more event points and buy more UR vouchers to make up for it

[storm heron]

^ kinda believe in gear focus

[atomic abyss]

i mean, i helped write plenty of guides long before you ever did rice

i didnt maintain them, so people dont use them

that's just how game communities are

[slow fox]

I can't believe I'm witnessing mod abuse

[topaz smelt]

also i got no clue what youre talking about btw

[atomic abyss]

dont worry, you're just not boomer enough

[topaz smelt]

i mean this

[forest palm]

[topaz smelt]

i dont really care what ppl use, i write guide to help ppl not for fame and glory
which is why i ship them off to sam

[slow fox]

Oh yeah? Then why did I donate 20 to your KoFi?

[topaz smelt]

every fucking resources has their issues and its for the community to correct them

[wind hazel]

egirl service

[atomic abyss]

if that's the case, why havent you made any effort to strike off the newbie guide which you said yourself was outdated from ECTL page?

[topaz smelt]

cuz an update is ongoing

[slow fox]

"ehp3 soon" moment

[topaz smelt]

its kind hard to get ppl to contribute to an unpaid voluntary project when we have lives

[stark quiver]

Soon™️ at its full glory

[atomic abyss]

i never said you had to update it tho

[stark quiver]

anyways im up for hire

[atomic abyss]

this is at least the 3rd time i've told you
the bare minimum is just to leave a note or sth

[novel condor]

[topaz smelt]

you make it sound like its useless when its still very helpful when used in conjunction with other guides

[atomic abyss]

my dude, you yourself said it was several years out of date, and that's why you helped write sam's

[topaz smelt]

its quite literally just the starter fleet that needs amending

[storm heron]

dw Riceist I still recommend your website for opsi gearing

[night helm]

what you guys on about?

[stark quiver]

Guides , critics and more

[atomic abyss]

i dont take issue with ectl itself
i take issue with the newbie guide attached to ectl that people still follow cos they dont know better

[topaz smelt]

and newb tips start fleet might need some changes as well

[slow fox]

This is technically meta discussion. It's helping gameplay help.

[forest palm]

this has been my thing with ECTL's newbie guide, I don't care to have it updated, just have people understand that the information it provide is outdated, or not as useful as other resources

[keen sable]

stupid ass newbie guides that tell you to farm unicorn

[atomic abyss]

this

[slow fox]

And Eugen T5 tank

[atomic abyss]

if you are making the effort to update it, excellent
really appreciate it

[storm heron]

halford > eldridge

[forest palm]

yes Eugen being T5 is hilarious to me

[atomic abyss]

eld retro hasnt even been tiered there, so that's understandable

[topaz smelt]

i def dont recognize were behind

[atomic abyss]

also im pretty sure they said they were gonna down tier halford for being underwhelming

[humble perch]

Wow, we got an aircraft carrier with a gun. Whos hyped?

[wind hazel]

no

[atomic abyss]

no one

[slow fox]

-# me

[atomic abyss]

it's not the first
and it's STILL a gimmick

[forest palm]

Halford is underwhelming tbh

[atomic abyss]

you'd think they learn by now when houshou literally came out in year 1

the only thing they learnt was to give her an actual FP stat

[forest palm]

being locked to sea planes, and the plane type being horrendous leaves her with an identity crisis

[storm heron]

eagle and bearn

[humble perch]

Sounds like this UR is definitely not popular

[atomic abyss]

like the best use of the CL gun is to act as a stat stick for her ghost CA gun

[topaz smelt]

she pretty cracked

[atomic abyss]

she is about as good as we expected

[night helm]

i like the UR

[atomic abyss]

everything else is fine, the gun is just the most disappointing part

[jaunty vault]

oh she's popular, this just isn't the right channel for that 😡

[atomic abyss]

z52 is the surprise

[forest palm]

people still trying to feel out Fritz's purpose really, though she'll probably end up on 15 Support Fleet

[topaz smelt]

shes pretty fucking good on her own

[atomic abyss]

campaign wise? ye
i imagine she'll shine in opsi/meta most tho

[forest palm]

I am keen to building 2 Fritz

[atomic abyss]

this is one of the more interesting takes that i'd like to see tested admittedly (Z52)

[night helm]

aren't her skiils good tho?

[atomic abyss]

who? z52? or rumey

[storm heron]

that's like 23 hours ago right

so it's still just prelim

[night helm]

rumey

[forest palm]

sounds interesting, might work to dump Helena, and double up with Ply

[atomic abyss]

rumey is good on account of her loadout, not really her skills

[night helm]

rip

[forest palm]

well that's if you don't wanna go gambling with Helena ofc

[atomic abyss]

her s3 CAN be REALLY good ofc

[night helm]

i hate paying attention 2 loadout

[atomic abyss]

well taz, i'm leaning towards her being more like a CV ply

[south bear]

META ships dont count towards PR Exp right? Like META Nagato wont give me SE exp for Daisen?

[forest palm]

well, her buff is a general one, so she goes wherever you deem her necessary

[atomic abyss]

correct, they dont

[plain saffron]

META is META faction so nope

[south bear]

[atomic abyss]

cos BBs already have similar dmg taken debuffs from vanny and alsace

[night helm]

does rumey get buffed by Bismarck 2

[south bear]

We need a META PR ship so i have a reason to use these mfs

[atomic abyss]

yes.... though you probably wont pair them together in most cases

[forest palm]

not everyone has access to those 2 though, so it's a bit of a catch 22

[night helm]

why not?

doesnt the slow get buffed or something?

[atomic abyss]

unless you're what, using bis2 as your bossing BB in w15

30% to 60% slow potency

[opaque gate]

for the quest, who to make on PR5 Ships?

[atomic abyss]

ply

guess who else has a 60% slow?
eldridge retro
nakhimov

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

nakhimov already has the 60% slow without needing any particular team mate

[opaque gate]

what makes plymouth good? cuz i heard she is the best

[atomic abyss]

decent tankiness, DPS, support

[plain saffron]

More guns and debuff skill

[forest palm]

she is a drop of water in the waste land that is BB support

[atomic abyss]

the only thing she cant do is AA carry and ASW

[plain saffron]

She have 3 main gun when usual CL have 2

[atomic abyss]

...guess who can

[opaque gate]

ooooh ok thanks, im guessing she is good for w15?

[plain saffron]

Can't be sandy

[storm heron]

definitely can't

[keen sable]

time for romantic blessing research

[opaque gate]

and can be partnered well with sandy

[atomic abyss]

and it turns out Z52 can do all of that apparently

which is hilarious to say the least

[night helm]

is z52 aa focused or fp

[storm heron]

what is z52 role? laffey 2 x plymouth?

[bright tusk]

Any fleet suggestions with fast clearing time for event stages?

[plain saffron]

Remind me in few days

[atomic abyss]

barrage/skill proc focused

[rose whale]

give me a team for taihou meta please 😄

[night helm]

i know she shoots more she buffs more

[plain saffron]

I'll be away from home for the weekend

[opaque gate]

i think 3cvs good for taihou, cuz u fan damage her summons too

she is heavy too

[atomic abyss]

stuff like unicorn retro and DDGs

[rose whale]

thanks

uh... who is the ship in middle of bottom row? 😄

[opaque gate]

why do people use iron blood torpcbomber than ryusei?

[night helm]

do you have 51k gems?

[plain saffron]

Timing

[storm heron]

風雲 kazagumo

[opaque gate]

is it faster?

[rose whale]

[atomic abyss]

yes

[plain saffron]

Faster and lower dmg

[atomic abyss]

it works like this

[rose whale]

thanks

[opaque gate]

oooh thank u, so it is just like saiun

[atomic abyss]

slower than saiun, higher dmg than saiun

[opaque gate]

but a little slower and a bit stronger

[plain saffron]

Vit, Ryuusei, junker, saiun kai
Left more dmg slower, right lower dmg faster

I think i miss one but i forgot

[keen sable]

unzen shima harbin? just do it? are you really even going to notice?

[atomic abyss]

tenzan kai

[plain saffron]

Can it fit in the list

[storm heron]

wherre to put tenzan or tenzan kai there

[atomic abyss]

just outright worse

[plain saffron]

Make 2nd list

[opaque gate]

what is the best way to farm the event? should i use 1 vanguard 3 main?

[atomic abyss]

full fleets

oil cap exists

[opaque gate]

if ever i use lower oil than the oil cap, will i still use the oil cap amount of oil?

[plain saffron]

No

[night helm]

i remember when auto didnt exist and i farmed roon and fdg dark times

[plain saffron]

But you get lower clearing rewards

[naive mauve]

are the to-love-ru ships and gears worth the investement? It's still not on the tierlist

[opaque gate]

oooooh, more oil=more rewards?

[plain saffron]

Until the cap yes

[atomic abyss]

the tierlist is out of date as of now
they are worth if you lack URs in their specific roles

[plain saffron]

But in event stages I don't think you'll notice

[opaque gate]

ahhh i see thank u

[plain saffron]

Just use full fleet because exp is good

[night helm]

where is a recent tier list then or do they not exist?

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[keen sable]

@naive mauve

[atomic abyss]

use the 2nd one if you really need one
it may not be relevant to you

[naive mauve]

i see i see

[naive mauve]

okay okay got it

[night helm]

why is it not relevent?

[atomic abyss]

Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM)

it's not applicable to new players

[night helm]

im not new

[storm heron]

(alpha)

[atomic abyss]

but are you at the point where you have best in slot gear? challenging opsi? aiming to 1 shot metas?

that's what i mean

[night helm]

ahhhh understood

[atomic abyss]

the end game tierlist assumes you're actually doing challenging stuff
not for casuals really

[night helm]

i still need to finish w14

[atomic abyss]

not saying casuals cant use it
it just may not be as relevant is all im trying to say

[opaque gate]

how much ur vouchers should be exchanged, given that u are to be given free amount of ur vouchers?

[storm heron]

should is depend, but you should at lesat get 1 copy of laffii

[humble perch]

Where is the end game tier list?

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[storm heron]

the second link

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[vapid grotto]

Is there nyway i can improve my fleet?

[atomic abyss]

no

[atomic abyss]

it's as good as it gets for now
and looking at the levels, you wont have stuff for a 2nd fleet

[night helm]

does z 52 heal herself or others??

[atomic abyss]

both

[night helm]

cool

[atomic abyss]

Decreases this ship's DMG taken by 15.0%. Every time the Thunderheart gains 6 counters:** restores 1.0% of this ship's max HP**. Every 2 times this HP recovery effect activates, performs a special slashing attack (DMG and range are based on the skill's level). The first 3 times this slashing attack is performed each battle: the** ship in your fleet with the lowest current HP percentage recovers 2.0% of her max HP.**

[vapid grotto]

Should i start using z11? Theres a mission to limit break her

[atomic abyss]

no

that mission is for a chat border

[vapid grotto]

Oh alright

[atomic abyss]

or was it profile border
it's just cosmetics

[storm heron]

profile border yes

definitely do not do it as a new player

[strong tartan]

they never do chat border cause nobody uses it

[storm heron]

progress is temporary, chat border is forever

[night helm]

is z52 better for boss or mob?

[atomic abyss]

[strong tartan]

wait and see

[atomic abyss]

shd be mob cos of flagship cover

[night helm]

flagship cover?

[atomic abyss]

Decreases this ship's DMG taken by 15.0%. Every time the Thunderheart gains 6 counters: restores 1.0% of this ship's max HP. Every 2 times this HP recovery effect activates, performs a special slashing attack (DMG and range are based on the skill's level). The first 3 times this slashing attack is performed each battle: the ship in your fleet with the lowest current HP percentage recovers 2.0% of her max HP.
Grants this ship the Flagship Cover skill; while this ship is afloat: decreases your Flagship's DMG taken by 25.0%. If there are multiple ships in your fleet with the Flagship Cover skill, only the one with the strongest effect activates.

would be really good with musashi

[kind slate]

What’s the general consensus on new URs so far?

[atomic abyss]

UR so very good
how very good? we dont know

[night helm]

who else has flag cover?

[atomic abyss]

expect z52 to be more relevant than rumey tho

[keen sable]

you ideally use Z11 in D3 boss fleet once on safe. She doesn't need to be mlb but a few levels wouldn't hurt if you don't want to full carry

[atomic abyss]

stuff like yukikaze
they're not good ships

[night helm]

oof

[kind slate]

Would I be better off holding off on using ur bulins until eval comes out?

[atomic abyss]

as always yes

ESPECIALLY if you lack yorktown 2

who is due for a rerun in 3 weeks

[kind slate]

so soon wow. Kk thnx

[night helm]

i can buy so many ur bulins

who is eval?

[atomic abyss]

eval = evaluations

[night helm]

oh thought they were talking about a probable ship 2 release

[storm heron]

omg is z52 broken?

[night helm]

i hope so

[atomic abyss]

broken might be a stretch

at the very least she's very good

[storm heron]

broken as in laffii or eldridge tier

can't wait for testing

[night helm]

because z52 needs to shoot to stack what gun is her best in slot?

[atomic abyss]

single 113

[keen sable]

that would be February

[night helm]

can u say the rarity and faction that made it i dont know guns that well

[keen sable]

it depends on the state of your account

[atomic abyss]

gold, single 113mm
british DD gun crafted in gear lab from the blue single 120

[jagged marlin]

Hello. Looking for fleet idea to 1 shot Taihout Meta (if there is one).

[night helm]

thx

[clever lance]

How strong do we need to be to beat EX mode

[atomic abyss]

120 ships and good manual skills

[boreal wagon]

normal mode is probably just UR spam

[clever lance]

Can’t auto it?

[storm heron]

normal EX not that hard, hard EX is very hard

[keen sable]

press advice

[boreal wagon]

but hard mode is manual skills

[atomic abyss]

you can auto normal EX with UR spam maybe

not sure about this EX

[storm heron]

does this EX also has the weird hitbox for the bullets?

[dreamy blade]

I only used 2 URs for normal ex auto it's def not that hard

[night helm]

does z52 have a good torp stat or is it not that impactful on her performance

[atomic abyss]

high torp stat, low eff so not the torps themselves

the relevant torps are from her barrage

[barren tapir]

id tentatively say close to that

[dusk maple]

it has a big hitbox, nothing weird about it

[barren tapir]

normal ex was very very easy for me this time around momo plants are incredible tanks

[storm heron]

suchi found something weird last EX

[clever lance]

What comp did you use

[kind slate]

If I’m well built with decent number of urs, what should I do

[dreamy blade]

I just used amagi cv/musashi/indep/tank/Helena/fill

[storm heron]

do hard EX with manjuu helena

[barren tapir]

ruppy amagicv sara lala nana momo iirc. i did manual but i dont think i needed to, i ended with vg on 80%+ hp in less than 90 seconds

significantly easier than last event EX for me

[keen sable]

no reason not to build every ur from here on out then

[dreamy blade]

Uhh I wasn't paying attention but I'm assuming the boss is medium armor bc of fritz

[kind slate]

aight thnx

[dusk maple]

my clear is in #media-content, pretty easy ex tbh

[night helm]

it worth giving z52 2 rainbow torp auxiliary equipment?

[boreal wagon]

its heavy

[storm heron]

she seems pretty tanky, so probably not?

[barren tapir]

lemme auto it rq and see if it works

boss shud be heavy and it doesnt move, so converging tb amazing

[night helm]

ill give her AA stuff

[atomic abyss]

no, always survival

[dreamy blade]

That explains why amagi did most of the lifting then

[barren tapir]

ok can confirm this works in auto, tho plants less useful. end with vg on ~25% hp in 75 seconds

plants make manualling it super braindead tho if you prefer kekw

[dreamy blade]

but somehow my amagi is losing to indep in taihou meta, is that bc of aa?

[storm heron]

someone's 3 tech late

[atomic abyss]

indep launches 4 strikes
amagi launches 3

[dreamy blade]

oh right, never paid attention to that

[barren tapir]

wat tech

[dreamy blade]

also why are you using amagi instead of like lexington or something

[barren tapir]

also neptune tank works

[frigid elbow]

which is better to farm points, B3 or D3?

[atomic abyss]

d3

[frigid elbow]

tysm

[barren tapir]

its not a themed fleet lol those are just pretty much my best ships at 125

[snow radish]

Can I equip the new bismarck skin on zwei?

[strong tartan]

yes

[dreamy blade]

you could use the rental to try

[storm heron]

assuming you have 100 aff

[clever lance]

Are the missions that require MLB of new ships to compete worth doing?

[elfin hollow]

do I have to clear hard mode to unlock the sp and ex stages?

[boreal wagon]

u have to clear D3

[storm heron]

it's definitely not worth for new players, I would say being able to farm in w12 is a good point to start doing mission for portraits

[boreal wagon]

which with the event u can do by just clicking on hard on B3 since u already cleared B2

[night helm]

does 13-4 get u more exp per run then 12-4

[storm heron]

yes per run

[atomic abyss]

for more oil yes

[boreal wagon]

isnt it also less per oil

[night helm]

i was sure it cost more oil

[atomic abyss]

exp per oil ratio is better the lower you go down till w11

[barren tapir]

portrait missions kinda hard cos theyll likely consume gold bulins

[storm heron]

1-1

[atomic abyss]

coin/oil is better the higher you go

[pallid prawn]

anyone know if this is a good mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

no

[barren tapir]

idk when the gold bulin shortage actually stops enough to be able to get the portrait, i have so many high priority targets left

well not so many but it feels like so many when it's a month's worth of bulins

[pallid prawn]

[boreal wagon]

just pull for dupes

[atomic abyss]

only things good there are uni and neptune, assuming thats neptune with augment

[cobalt rapids]

much much later

[night helm]

damm i thought it was ok for worlds below 11

[atomic abyss]

it is
that doesnt mean its good

[barren tapir]

for what exactly? bisko is pretty bad, roon muse is just a roon downgrade

replace those and it's an ok fleet

[atomic abyss]

bismarck is bad, as is graf zepp
roon mu is worse than regular roon now

[barren tapir]

so not just reaching ch12

[atomic abyss]

as for london uh
well might as well use her

shrop is cheaper and better but

[night helm]

i love graf zep a shame she got power crept so much

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt call graf bad she's mid lots of better options exist but shes not garbage

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur playstyle ig
if ure not chasing tech then once ure in w12 is fine

[atomic abyss]

GZ was never good to begin with

[night helm]

does graf only give 10 or 15% DR

[atomic abyss]

she had to be buffed 2 separate times

[barren tapir]

id sooner replace london than augmented graf

[pallid prawn]

yeah im working on roon rn, as for bismarck i use her since she's the only other bb that i have thats currently above lvl 100

[elfin hollow]

thank you!!

[atomic abyss]

one was a full on change of skill

and change of gear slots

the other was the augment

[night helm]

she was good when her event dropped

[atomic abyss]

no she wasnt

i was around when GZ dropped

[barren tapir]

yeah but like i dont think she is bad, nowhere near bisko level anyway

2x 150%, 3x 160%, 3x 160% with 100% proc airstrike barrage is pretty okay.

[night helm]

so was i

[atomic abyss]

what good was another SR CV when enterprise exists

and saratoga was just GZ but better

[uneven cave]

She wasn't, then there was that wave of retrospective buffs that made her decent with Strasser

[barren tapir]

yeah sara better, assuming they have her raised and augmented. enty would be off frolicking in a boss fleet most likely for them

[uneven cave]

But the powercreep continued anyway so it was a short lived minor peak

[atomic abyss]

back then GZ was forced to use 2 stuka dive bombers
couldnt even use helldivers

[barren tapir]

but again i dont think better options existing inherently makes a ship bad. graf is mid, not trash

[night helm]

true enty and Saratoga were better but she was still good not great but good

[barren tapir]

she's B rated for ch14

[atomic abyss]

[dreamy blade]

definitely a bit more questionable without any iron blood vanguards

[barren tapir]

well theyll be obtaining real roon they said

[pallid prawn]

is this also a good boss fleet? im planning on swapping queen elizabeth with monarch once im done with roon

[atomic abyss]

aurora... you do know that the letter on its own means jack shit

[barren tapir]

it means "can carry their own weight" which to me would be the definition of 'mid'

[night helm]

wasnt she all 1s tho?

[strong tartan]

no monarch if anything is more of a mob battleship, qe is questionable

[storm heron]

huh apparently z52 day1 is very possible

[barren tapir]

monarch also isnt exactly good either. she's a worse hood iirc

[dreamy blade]

125 belfast and warspite

[atomic abyss]

not directly worse

i'd compare monarch to nelson

monarch is better than hood in many areas

[barren tapir]

well true, she has different armor leaning. but lacks 100% barrage

[night helm]

i have z52

[barren tapir]

but yeah nelson better comparison, monarch is mid

[dreamy blade]

no milestone reward is impossible with enough oil saved

[atomic abyss]

different armour, CL secondaries means she can kill suicide boats
also tankier
also has noticeable main gun damage unlike hood

[strong tartan]

it is, i remember seeing a few day1 mogadors when her event came out

[night helm]

the true mindset

[pallid prawn]

should i just keep working on monarch or just raise my hood ?

[atomic abyss]

hood

[dreamy blade]

although depending on how close you are to finishing her you might want to just build her for the hms tech for ply

[pallid prawn]

[barren tapir]

i got to 900 hms without ever actually finishing the monarch build so that's debatable tbh

[inner delta]

you also play longer

[storm heron]

building hood for hms tech is okay-ish

[barren tapir]

i would raise hood instead

[storm heron]

and just in case for BC reqs

[dreamy blade]

it's not the most efficient source of hms tech but if he is at 90% cdc2 for example i'd prob just finish her

[barren tapir]

what i mean is that she isnt required for ply. certainly is an option though.

yeah it depends on how far along she is

[inner delta]

well yeah, it also kinda depend if you start and there's just no hms event it would be harder

[barren tapir]

and also how much tech they still need, and what other hms picks they have

[spring bolt]

just raise her, don't waste aug mat on hood

[barren tapir]

does monarch have good tech i should finish her

[inner delta]

should be fp

[barren tapir]

neat, ill go back to her after ply then

[storm heron]

:prgrind:

pretty sure that's the only reason you can't do them both at the same time

[kind slate]

What’s the eval of ur Amagi? She good in terms of ur ships?

[crimson glacier]

very good

[atomic abyss]

best CV for heavy armour
Excellent buffer for sakura CVs and Sakura torpers

[kind slate]

Is she good without Sakura? And how abt mobbing?

[atomic abyss]

she buff herself too, so yes
she's a UR, so she's good anywhere
she just excels in bossing more

[spring bolt]

tbh all traditional cvs stike at around 20s aren't that good at mobbing
fast dps cvls will do better at clearing trash mobs cuz fast
and there are healers

[elfin hollow]

what should I prioritize obtaining? I really want Z52 should I get the vouchers or is there something I should prioritize?

[atomic abyss]

check pins

[spring bolt]

do you have enough ur bulin to instant mlb z52? if not, just get the torp first

[elfin hollow]

ok thank you

[elfin hollow]

ahh ok thanks mb

[bold cove]

Or you can wait till the end of event

[kind slate]

Wait there was musashi rerun???

[low lintel]

Hey what's the most optimal way to farm points for the event?

[storm heron]

only 1% of players know that lowcost is the best way to farm points for event

[kind slate]

FRICKKKK I completely missed it wtffffffff.

[atomic abyss]

Daily SP run then spam D3

[atomic abyss]

Well she'll be permanent in about a year or so

[bold cove]

SP once daily, then do x2 D3 till morale went off, then go touch some grass...

[kind slate]

so sad. Can’t believe I forgot abt rerun.

[pallid prawn]

what's the best stage to farm gold that's under w11

[bold cove]

D3 Event at the moment

[rose cosmos]

Decent?

[pallid prawn]

thanks

[spring bolt]

for farming levels? sure

[pallid prawn]

oh yeah, hardmode or the normal one?

[spring bolt]

d means hard

[pallid prawn]

thank you

[rose cosmos]

Oh apparently rumey is capable of two fighters too

[kind slate]

Just for reference how good is she. Like zwei level or

[storm heron]

more than zwei since she's a CV

[whole crypt]

which NP slow vanguard has highest DPS or should I try and swap for Implacable

[spring bolt]

it's farming level, it doesn't matter much anyway
personally i am running double flapjack and it doesn't change much, her ca ghost gun pretty much can ensure mvp

[storm heron]

tashkent unfortunately

[uneven cave]

Musashi is not a CV

[bold cove]

Well, she is something else, giant sword falling down the sky, kinda love it

[kind slate]

I wanna unexist. I wanted her for quiet a while weep

[storm heron]

damn mb I misread

[atomic abyss]

The best mobbing BB in the game

[rose cosmos]

Yeah that’s what I’m doing too, but with spared tigercats lol

[kind slate]

Aaaaahhhhhh. I cry

[atomic abyss]

Unlike Zwei who is like, the core of BB teams in meta/opsi

[rose cosmos]

I was dumb for crafting those when I first started

[bold cove]

Not too high investment

[rose cosmos]

Might as well using

[bold cove]

Newbie friendly

[spring bolt]

tigercat isn't that different from flapjack anyway so it's fine

[kind slate]

How screwed am I. Is she replaceable

Musashi I mean

[atomic abyss]

As long as you don't push super high content, she has a downgrade in Friederich de Grosse

Nothing comes close to her mobbing prowess tho

[storm heron]

not screwed imo since higher worlds is as important as farming for map drop ships

which is like not important at all

[frozen inlet]

Whats the recommendation for the new year invitation?

[storm heron]

wait what there's new year invitatiion? nvm it's not even obtainable yet why did they even ask

btw there's subs on the event

[rose cosmos]

That new hot bis skin is for the og rite?

[whole crypt]

you can use it on Zwei

[storm heron]

biszwei 100 aff can also equip it

[stiff bison]

which map do you guys farm for the event?